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A
All
right
moving
on
to
new
business
first
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
August
31st
2022.
A
There,
a
second
perfect
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
aye
and
no
opposed.
A
Second,
we
will
move
on
to
intro
an
introduction
to
the
what
we're
going
to
do
tonight.
Actually,
I
have
some
notes
here:
I've
written
down,
first
and
foremost,
I
know.
We
are
missing
two
Commissioners
here
tonight.
Both
commissioner
Valderrama
shivaria
and
commissioner
Perry
Vice,
chair
Perry,
are
gone
on
other
business
and
I
know
they
wish
they
could
be
here
tonight.
They
will
be
watching
everyone's
testimony.
A
They
didn't,
they
don't
want
you
to
think
they're
not
going
to
review
it
and
they
will
be
sent
video
of
everything
here
tonight.
So
don't
think
that
they're
gonna
miss
a
thing
and
then
let's
see
what
else
do
I
have.
A
Second,
our
plan
going
forward
just
so
everyone
is
aware
we
are
taking
your
feedback
tonight,
everyone
who
wishes
to
testify
or
test
everyone's
testimony
and
then
we're
going
to
apply
it
and
narrow
it
down
to
a
a
map
or
a
plan
path
forward
next
week,
and
then
we
will
post
that
online
and
we
will
then
have
another
public
testimony
meeting.
A
So
everyone
can
come
back
and
give
us
feedback
on
that
one
map
and
then
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
take
a
vote
on
it
and
send
it
on
to
the
city
council
after
that,
and
so
we
will
have
three
more
meetings
after
this
one,
hopefully
just
those
three
and
then
hopefully
we'll
have
new
districts
and
then
finally
I'm
asking
everyone
to
please
be
polite
tonight
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
what
you
all
have
to
say.
Thank
you.
A
So
moving
on
Eric's
going
to
do
a
presentation
about
the
plans
that
have
been
submitted.
F
G
Good
evening,
everybody
before
I
dig
into
the
review
just
want
to
remind
you
of
the
criteria
that
I
was
told
to
look
at
with
the
proposals
that
were
submitted
so
we're
looking
for
one
balanced
population,
two
try
to
reduce
splitting
election
precincts
the
county,
where
possible
then
also
three
reduced
splitting
neighborhood
association
boundaries
wherever
possible.
Now,
while
those
three
factors
are
not
inherently
mutually
exclusive,
it
was
nevertheless
a
tricky
balance
with
the
plans
to
achieve
all.
Usually
one
of
those
factors
had
to
suffer
a
little
bit
more
than
the
others.
G
All
right,
everyone
can
see.
Okay,
I
know
this
is
a
little
bit
tough
to
see
on
the
screen.
So
let
me
know
if
I
need
to
zoom
in
or
change
anything,
so
the
big
mystery
cob
stands
for
city
of
Boise
I
had
to
make
sure,
through
all
the
data
processing,
to
make
sure
I
didn't
mix
up
the
plans
with
the
district,
so
for
me,
I
had
to
call
it
city
of
Boise
they're
in
no
particular
order,
it's
just
in
the
order
that
they
either
receive
them
or
processed
them.
G
With
this
first
plan
that
was
submitted,
you
can
see
I
just
got
the
number
of
the
district
and
then
how
much
over
under
the
target
population
for
that
particular
district
and
then
I
also
noted
the
precincts
that
were
split
or
the
neighborhood
associations
that
were
split.
Take
these
numbers
with
a
plus
or
minus
one.
A
lot
of
this
I
had
to
inspect
visually,
to
look
for
macro
differences.
Just
so
you
can
understand
what
I'm
talking
about
taking
a
look
at
the
precinct.
G
There
are
some
that
jump
out
that
are
really
obvious,
so
that
counted
is
yes,
that
technically
splits
a
County
Precinct
that
you're
showing
here
in
the
blue
lines.
There
are
others
that
are
a
little
bit
more
subtle.
That
you
can't
see
until
you
get
really
really
really
close,
and
this
just
happens
to
be
scale
differences
in
how
the
data
was
drawn,
so
it
is
quite
possible.
I
might
have
missed
one
or
two
then
also
there's
some
commonalities
between
a
lot
of
the
plans.
G
Just
because
the
way
that
either
the
neighborhood
associations
or
the
precincts
are
drawn
have
absolutely
zero
coincidence
with
the
census
blocks,
you
can't
help
but
split
them
in
some
cases.
So
that's
across
the
board
for
all
the
plans
for
some
of
these
plans
moving
forward.
If
there's
one
that
really
gels
with
the
community
with
a
commission,
there
are
micro
changes
we
can
make
without
affecting
the
populations.
Please
understand
that
the
data
that
we
had
was
subjects
from
the
Census
and
it
is
tied
to
the
census
block
boundaries.
G
When
you
cut
a
census
Block
in
half,
we
had
no
way
to
guarantee
what
population
was
on
one
side
or
the
other,
without
looking
directly
and
taking
a
look
at
the
structures
and
population
there
I
know
that
caused
some
frustration
for
some
folks
going.
Why
can't
I
split
it
here?
It's
because
we
statistically
couldn't
validate
the
population
there.
G
So
with
this
first
plan,
although
it
does
split
up
some
precincts,
You
could
argue
it
is
reasonably
balanced
there,
the
closer
these
get
to
zero,
the
better
it
is
overall,
but
like
I
said
well,
you
have
to
sacrifice
some
of
the
other
factors
that
you
want
to
look
at
to
get
the
balance
proposal.
Two,
this
one
was
actually
the
best
fitting
proposal
to
the
existing
precincts
leave.
It
only
split
it
up
in
a
couple
of
spots
there
might
and
in
those
spots
I
believe
they
were
up
here
in
the
north.
G
These.
Arguably,
we
could
look
in
more
detail
to
find
out
what
homes
are
there
and
probably
match
to
the
election
precincts
to
resolve
that
the
trade-off,
however,
was
it
was
not
as
tightly
balanced
as
other
districts,
but,
like
I
said,
that
number
is
very
much
subject
to
interpretation,
but
then
also
an
area
in
the
east
and
south.
These
are
area
where
growth
is
actively
happening,
so
these
numbers,
although
they
are
under
the
target
population,
could
change
within
several
years
and
that's
something
that
holds
true
across
the
board
for
all
the
plans.
G
Several
of
the
precincts
proposal.
Four
actually
had
a
very
low
difference
on
the
population
most
we
have
and
then
also
I
want
to
note
that
there
are
some
artifacts
from
this.
Where
you've
got
some
things
that
look
a
little
bit
curious.
This
might
have
been
an
artifact
just
from
the
tool,
someone
not
understanding
it
or
it
could
have
been
included.
This
is
one
that,
if
the
overall
shape
of
these
districts
is
you
leans
towards
this
one?
G
We
could
look
at
this
in
more
fine
grain,
but
on
the
surface,
I
did
not
change
any
proposals
as
they
came
in
so
I'm,
preserving
it
as
it
was
submitted.
This
might
have
been
an
oversight
in
a
lot
of
the
air
in
here
and
there
is
not
a
population
because
it's
getting
into
Catherine
Albertsons
Park,
but
I
do
know
that
the
census
Block
in
here
happens
to
be
a
very
goofy
shape
that
wraps
around
so
I
believe
this
was
just
an
artifact
of
trying
to
balance
the
population.
G
G
G
G
But
precincts
divided,
a
lot
of
them
up.
I
will
say
from
the
plans
as
I
reviewed
them
any
of
the
splits
that
were
in
either
with
the
precincts,
the
neighborhood
associations.
There
was
nothing
that
was
completely
out
to
lunch.
They
either
followed
arterial
or
collector
roads
or
a
natural
topographic
feature
that
looking
at
a
map
made
complete
sense.
However,
just
because
of
the
way
the
census
blocks
were
drawn
or
the
way
the
precincts
were,
you
know,
you'd
have
to
make
the
split
there.
G
G
Forgive
me,
I'm.
Looking
at
my
notes
on
proposal,
eight
at
a
fairly
low
population
deviation
and
one
of
the
lower
Precinct
splits.
So
this
one
had
fit
the
criteria
pretty
tightly.
The
only
deviation
was
going
along
Boise
Avenue
in
here,
but
neighborhood
associations
or
the
ones
that
got
split
up
the
most.
For
this
particular
plan.
G
G
These
two
were
more
alike
than
any
of
the
others,
but
there
were
definitely
similarities
across
the
board
for
where
there
were
General
preferences,
particularly
up
in
the
north,
then
also
along
the
west
over
here
and
in
the
central
area,
but
yeah
a
lot
of
the
deviations
from
each
of
the
plans
were
where
we
expected.
Where,
where
do
you
make
those
splits,
particularly
in
the
central
part
of
Boise
questions?
I
can
answer
thus
far.
G
It's
a
lot
to
go
through
each
one
of
these
plans
has
its
pros
has
its
cons.
You
know
I
try
to
match
these
as
best
I
could
so
as
you
toggle
through
these,
you
should
be
able
to
compare
them
fairly
easily.
G
But
I
did
want
to
show
that
you
can
turn
on
the
census
boundary.
So
there's
a
lot
of
information.
This
is
all
publicly
available
information,
so
it's
applied
to
us.
This
was
just
to
help
understand
because
you
cannot
redraw
the
boundaries
in
here,
but
at
least
you
can
see
the
factors
that
went
into
play
in
here
than
if
you
need
to
you
can
come
down
in
here,
get
some
basic
information
about
the
districts.
C
H
A
Okay,
so
we
will
now
open
the
public
hearing
names.
We
called
in
the
order
on
the
list
on
the
sign-in
sheets
and
we
will
begin
with
those
who
register
to
testify
via
zoom
and
then
move
to
those
who
are
here
in
person
to
testify.
Each
participant
will
be
provided
three
minutes,
representatives
of
an
established,
neighborhood
association
and
are
the
sole
representative
for
that
neighborhood
association
will
be
given
10
minutes
when
called
to
testify.
Please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
A
If
you
are
testifying
on
behalf
of
neighborhood
association,
please
State
the
name
of
that
Association
all
right.
So,
first
off
we
have
Kenneth
Pidgeon
and
he
is
on
Zoom.
I
Good
evening,
members
of
the
commission,
my
name
is
Ken
pajan
and
I
reside
at
1829,
West
Canal
Street
here
in
Boise,
in
the
interest
of
full
disclosure,
I
applied
for
a
position
on
the
redistricting
Commission
because
of
my
nine
years
of
GIS
experience
and
my
knowledge
of
the
city.
My
first
point:
in
the
interest
of
transparency,
all
GIS
files
being
used
by
either
the
commission
members
or
city
support
staff
to
the
commission
should
be
available
for
download
by
the
public
on
commission
web
pages.
I
This
allows
everyone
to
be
involved
involved
to
be
working
from
the
same
data.
Secondly,
again
in
the
interest
of
transparencies,
all
maps
created
by
either
commission
members
or
city
support
staff
to
the
commission
or
submitted
by
the
public
should
be
available
for
download
by
the
public
on
the
commission
web
pages.
I
Thirdly,
as
a
reminder,
Idaho
code
50
707a
requires
election
precincts
to
be
used
as
the
basis
for
establishing
council
districts
in
each
of
those
districts
must
be
of
near
equal
population
or,
in
this
case
39
281
folks.
There
is
no
provision
state
code
to
use
neighborhood
associations
in
establishing
districts.
I
Fourthly,
the
mapitude
software
does
not
show
current
city
limits.
It
uses
various
types
of
census,
data,
some
of
which
are
outside
sitting
limits,
does
not
show
Ada
County
election
precincts.
Please
explain
to
the
public
how
you
were
reconcile
since
this
information
to
City
Limits,
and
also
also
how
you
will
reconcile
Ada
County
election
precincts
to
census
blocks,
especially
where
Precinct
split
census
blocks
a
fairly
common
occurrence.
I
Even
though
that
item
is
listed
on
the
agenda,
how
can
the
public
effectively
comment
on
those
Maps
if
those
maps
are
not
included
in
the
full
agenda
packet
for
public
review?
Prior
to
the
meeting,
please
include
all
documentation
with
future
agendas.
That
concludes
my
comments.
I'm
prepared
to
stand
for
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
questions.
J
Great
thank
you.
Richard
Llewellyn
and
I
will
be
speaking
on
behalf
of
Northwest
neighborhood
association,
and
my
address
is
9170.
J
So
thank
you
for
having
this
hearing
watching
a
bit
from
last
week.
I
can
see
that
it's
a
lot
of
work
for
you
up
there
and
I
I
get
the
sense
you're
taking
your
job
seriously.
So
I
am
sure
other
members
of
the
public
appreciate
that.
J
J
Our
neighborhood
attempted
to
apply
some
common
and
Cutting
Edge
kind
of
both
algorithms
to
the
process.
We've
been
communicating
with
the
district
in
commission
and
we
ran
into
so
many
roadblocks.
We
did
submit
Maps,
you
didn't
see
any
of
them
up
there,
because
we
simply
weren't
able
to
use
the
website
to
put
those
in
and
I
can
go
into.
Some
of
the
reasons
why
that
was
so
intractable,
but,
first
and
for
foremost,
I
want
to
reiterate
the
necessity
for
having
a
shared
and
public
database.
J
The
data
needs
to
be
available
and
the
formats
commonly
used,
and
yes,
it
requires
some
work,
but
you
know
the
Boise
is
going
to
have
to
do
that
work
at
some
point
regardless.
It
needs
to
have
the
data
intersected.
You
know,
by
by
City
boundaries
and
by
census
block
and
by
Precinct,
in
order
to
be
able
to
conform
with
the
law
and
that's
Idaho
law,
which
is
prevailing,
of
course,
so
yeah.
So
that's
the
first
problem.
J
Second,
we
need
to
have
tools
other
than
something
where
it's
kind
of
hunting
and
pecking
to
be
able
to
optimize
find
Optimal
Solutions
there
are
are
thousands
and
thousands
of
solutions
we
iterated
through
many
of
them
as
and
we
submitted
those
maps
to
you,
but
you
really,
you
don't
have
much
of
any
chance
of
finding
those
Optimal
Solutions
by
hunting
and
packing.
J
Ideally,
one
starts
with
the
plans
that
minimize
the
or
create
the
maximum
parity
or
minimize
the
deviation
between
between
districts.
To
begin
with,
and,
of
course,
if
you
just
go
by
Precinct
boundaries,
there
is
that
could
be
those
can
be
found
and
and
then
that
that's
a
good
starting
point
for
people
rather
than
thinking
that
they're
going
to
stumble
upon
District
plans
that
approach
parity
just
by
using
that
website
and
then
third,
whatever
tool
is
provided,
because
it
is
nice
to
provide
a
graphical
tool.
J
It
should
be
easy
to
select
districts
by
Precinct.
That
is
the
law.
The
law
says:
there's
the
districts
are
meant
to
be
based
on
contiguous
precincts,
so
one
should
be
able
to
click
or
select
or
upload
or
all
of
these
Plans
by
Precinct.
That
would
make
it
far
far
easier
when
you're
trying
to
actually
follow
the
precinct
boundaries
with
that
tool.
J
It's
just
so
easy
not
to
actually
get
the
lines
right
and
then
I
think
it's
too
early
to
be
able
to
speak
to
the
pros
and
cons
of
any
one
map.
So
we
won't
do
that.
Like
I
said
ours,
we
spend
a
lot
of
time,
a
good
you
know,
24
hours
or
so
installing
software
trying
to
run
down
the
data
we
went
to
the
county
a
couple
of
times.
J
We
asked
you
a
couple
of
times:
I
did
get
email
back
this
week,
saying
that
emails
got
weren't
routed
properly,
but
that
none
of
that
should
have
been
required.
There
should
have
been
enough
front
work
on
this
project
so
that
all
the
data
were
available
up
front
parsed.
Accordingly,
I
think
you
know
this
is
a
this
is
hard
to
do
it
right
and
so
I
don't
want
to
sound
unappreciative
of
what
you
as
commissioned.
Commissioners
are
attempting
to
do
for
work.
J
I,
I,
developed,
open
source,
analytical
software,
that's
that's
designed
to
enable
sharing
of
analyzes
and
let
other
people
run
analyzes
and-
and
some
of
these
are
just
fundamental
principles
in
science,
but
especially
starting
with
that
shared
data
set
at
the
beginning.
That's
that's
available
and
easily
use
and
not
hidden
behind
a
website.
J
So
in
terms
of
our
neighborhood
I.
Think
our
general
feelings
are
that
there
just
needs
to
be
more
time.
We
need
to
go
kind
of
start
at
the
beginning,
where
the
data
are
available,
better
tools
are
provided,
and
you
know
otherwise
we're
just
not
going
to
come
up
with
really
what
are
the
legally
valid
Maps,
those
that
minimize
the
population
deviation
between
creative
districts
as
well
as
are
created
by
combining
contiguous
election
precincts.
So
thank
you.
A
I
actually
had
a
question
about
your
maps
and,
unfortunately,
other
people
aren't
able
to
see
those
Maps,
because
I
I
did
take
a
look
at
them.
I
guess:
yes,
the
data
I
understand
your
points
about
data
and
needing
it
to
be
available
and
all
of
that
and
doing
analysis
and
limiting
deviation.
But
looking
at
a
lot
of
your
Maps,
you
know
they.
They
created
odd
shapes.
A
Necessarily
compact:
how
how
do
you
justify
a
breaking
up
neighborhoods
in
that
sense,
just
to
hit
a
data
point.
J
Yeah
and
I
think
that's
a
fair
question,
and
so
we
made
quite
clear
that
our
neighborhood
Association
was
going
to
look
at
this
just
from
the
perspective
of
Idaho
law.
As
this,
the
starting
point,
at
least-
and
that
is
you
know,
there's
just
really
two
components
there
right
use
contiguous
election
precincts
and
you
find
the
plan
that,
as
nearly
as
possible,
creates
equal
districts.
J
J
Think
if
you
don't
start
with
with
plans
in
which
you
have
some
sort
of
algorithm
or
some
other
help
to
minimize
those
deviations,
you're
very
unlikely,
going
to
to
stumble
upon
them
with
no
matter
how
much
work
you
do
just
kind
of
manually,
so
I
would
have
suggested,
starting
with
plans
like
ours,
although
probably
not
ours,
because
that
data
that
we
used
may
not
be
the
correct
data.
J
Unfortunately,
we've
we've
kind
of
gone
round
and
around
with
that,
but
essentially
a
process
like
that
in
which
you
use
you
know
very
well
Justified.
J
You
know
that
was
from
those
those
algorithms
were
from
Harvard
and
do
your
best
to
see
where
you
can
minimize
deviations
and
then
perhaps
I
mean
I'm,
not
personally
the
kind
of
stickler
where
I
think.
Okay,
you
just
can't
do
anything
at
that
point,
but
but
then
you've,
you've,
you've
helped
yourself
get
to
a
state
where
you're
more
likely
going
to
have
more
equal
populations,
because
that's
that's
hard
that
that's
my
perspective
on
it
at
least.
C
You
thank
you,
I
couldn't
hear
you
thank
you
and
my
name
is
Jim
Ruck.
We
live
in
Southeast
Boise
at
3396,
East,
Dowling,
Mill,
Court,
we're
just
we're
really
close
to
Barber
Park
and
we
view
map
eight
as
our
Preferred
Choice.
We
moved
here
from
Wisconsin
seven
years
ago
and
soon
became
aware
of
several
desirable
features
that
made
Southeast
Boise
a
great
place
to
live.
C
C
The
bottom
Crossing
area
serves
as
a
local
neighborhood
Gathering
Spot,
along
with
our
boy,
Boise
bound
Branch
Library
there
and
whichever
side
of
the
Boise
River
you
may
live,
each
is
either
served
by
a
primary
High,
School
Timberline
on
the
south
and
Boise
high
in
the
North,
we're
only
four
miles
by
bike
to
downtown
it's
pretty
quick.
C
And
finally,
we
like
map
8,
because
each
district
represents
a
distinct
community
of
interest
within
the
city
and
it
only
splits,
four
precincts
which
we
thought
was
a
desirable
feature.
So
thank
you
for
considering
my
input.
A
Next,
we
will
move
on
to
the
in-person
testimony.
First,
we'll
go
off
of
the
ones
who
signed
up
originally
online
Diane
Schwartz,
nerling,
Schwartz
foreign.
E
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
holding
these
hearings.
My
name
is
Diane
Schwarz
I
am
at
6783
East
Warm,
Springs,
Avenue
and
I
am
here
in
support
of
map
8.
I
value
that
our
constitution
guarantees
the
right
to
vote
with
one
person,
one
vote
the
work
of
the
districting
commission
to
ensure
that
all
votes
across
the
city
of
Boise
County
equally
and
that
all
communities
are
represented
in
our
city,
government
and
I,
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
are
experiencing
population
growth
and
lots
of
development
and
that
drawing
these
initial
District
boundaries
is
a
challenge.
E
I
have
confidence
that
you
will
create
the
city
districts
that
are
equal
and
representative.
Now
I've
lived
in
Southeast
Boise
since
2006
and
most
recently
moved
to
the
rim
at
East
Valley.
My
three
daughters
have
grown
up
and
graduated
from
Boise
high
and
in
the
15
years
as
a
resident
of
Boise
I've
enjoyed
my
community
in
the
Southeast
and
have
developed
roots
in
my
daily
activities
from
community
service
to
yoga
to
workouts,
hiking,
shopping
friendships
and
neighborhood.
E
E
Harris,
Ranch
and
Beyond
has
experienced
rapid
growth
in
the
last
few
years,
with
additional
new
houses
going
further
east.
The
Boise
school
district
has
provided
new
schools
for
the
area.
The
development
of
the
Far
Eastern
part
of
Boise
impacts
me
in
terms
of
Transportation
density,
open
spaces
and
my
quality
of
life.
Keeping
this
area
whole
and
represented
represented
by
one
City
Council
seat
is
essential
to
represent
our
interests
out.
E
K
Let's
see
if
I'm
on
there,
yes,
thank
you
for
for
testifying.
I
do
have
a
question
so
you're
focused
on
that
particular
District
in
Southeast
Boise.
What
do
you
consider
have
you
reviewed
the
rest
of
the
map,
the
rest
of
town,
and
how
do
you
feel
about
those?
Yes.
E
I
mean
I
I've
kind
of
been
all
around,
but
I
have
friends
in
all
the
different
districts.
That
seems
to
make
sense
to
me
on
map
eight,
but
I
mean
I
definitely
was
looking
at
the
yellow
portion
of
that
goes
down.
Warm,
Springs
and
Boise
Avenue
down
to
where
I
am,
but
the
other
areas
like
the
bench
and
the
North
End
seem
to
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
as
well.
How
about
West
Boise
that
I
am
not
so
familiar
with
in
terms
of
the
streets
and
things
that
are
out
that
way.
A
Thank
you
so
much
next
Heidi
bogert.
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
Heidi
bokert,
3050,
South,
raindrop
and
I'm
here
to
testify
that
I
had
a
chance
to
review
the
maps
and
because
I
am
a
member
of
that
Southeast,
Boise,
Community
I,
believe
map
number
eight
represents
a
good
delineation
for
the
districts.
I
concur
with
many
of
the
statements
Diane
just
made
the
boundaries,
Boise
Avenue
and
then
out,
east
Harris,
Ranch
and
I.
Don't
want
to
take
too
much
time
by
repeating
things
that
she
has
already
said.
I
just
would
like
you
to
consider
map
8
for
those
districts.
Thank
you.
K
Wouldn't
the
same
question:
what
did
you
think
of
the
map
as
far
as
representing
in
West
Boise.
M
I
think
the
boundaries
make
sense,
the
north-south
boundary
I
don't
pay
as
much
attention
to
West
Boise,
because
I
like
Diane,
live
and
commute
in
that
southeast
part.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
F
F
I'm,
a
newcomer
I'm
representing
myself
I,
was
interested
in
these
Maps
because
I'm
scrambling,
like
a
lot
of
the
newcomers
to
figure
out
what's
going
on
in
this
city.
There
are
so
many
districts,
there's
school
districts,
there's
achd
state
legislator
and
their
city
council
I'm
curious
about
how
this
all
works.
So
I
studied
the
maps
and
yes,
I
really
looked
at
the
southeast
part
because
I'm
curious,
where
the
boundaries
are.
F
F
I'll
end
with
saying
we
newcomers
scramble
to
learn
the
major
landmarks
and
map
eight
seemed
best
for
landmarks.
For
me,
any
questions.
K
F
M
F
K
I
want
to
thank
you
and
and
I
remember
well,
when
I
moved
here
that
same
experience
of
you
know,
how
is
this
all
working
in
the
city
in
the
school
districts
and
things?
So
thank
you
for
speaking
up.
Thank
you.
N
Madam,
chair
and
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Jordan
Morales
I
live
at
4647,
East
narcissus
Court
in
Boise.
Thank
you
for
the
time
and
effort
you're
putting
into
this
I
am
supporting
Matt
bait.
This
map
uses
the
same
West
Boise
configuration
that
commissioner
Spiker
loves.
N
Maps
used
I'm
a
fan
of
this
configuration
to
speak
to
West
Boise,
because
I've
experienced
much
of
what
makes
up
that
version
of
that
District
when
I
I'm
a
sixth
generation
Idaho,
and
we
moved
to
Boise
in
my
first
grade
elementary
school,
we
moved
off
of
Ustick
I
went
to
Houston
Elementary,
then
Pioneer
Elementary
I
spent
many
times
at
Golden
Wheel
getting
fries
in
the
shake.
Then
we
moved
all
the
way
down
south
to
victory.
Road
just
outside
of
the
Boise
City
Limits
and
I
went
to
Spalding
Elementary.
To
finish
up
my
last
couple
years.
N
This
area
is
very
similar
and
it
makes
a
ton
of
sense
to
me
to
have
a
district
that
encompasses
West
ADA
School
District.
Just
with
my
experience
being
in
West
state
of
school
district
myself,
you
know
even
being
at
Lake
Hazel
Middle
I
can
I'm
not
going
to
say
our
rivalry.
Nickname
for
Lowell
Scott
on
the
record,
but
you
know
you,
you
have
connections
just
through
that.
N
District
I
also
think
Beyond
the
school
districts
there's
a
lot
of
similarity
in
the
ways
that
people
commute
to
Southwest,
Boise
and
Northwest
Boise
on
the
types
of
Housing
and
Commercial
developments
that
are
there
and
the
resources
that
are
there
and
that
are
needed
also
particularly
I
I.
Think.
Having
lived
off
of
Victory
Road
out
in
that
area,
I
understand
also
the
resources
that
those
areas
probably
need
more
of
just
to
speak
to
the
rest
of
the
map.
N
This
the
the
split
between
District
two
and
three
really
made
sense
to
kind
of
Follow
that
southern
tip
of
Garden
City
we
I,
did
spend
a
couple
years
in
central
bench,
I
really
like
how
this
map
makes
the
central
bench
more
whole
than
the
current
map
does
love
that
area,
but
I
have
lived
most
of
my
time
in
in
Southeast.
Boise
now
obviously
heard
a
lot
about
that.
N
I
just
want
to
speak
to
the
Boise
Avenue
split
of
those
three
precincts
I've
served
for
many
years
now,
as
a
chief
judge
of
Elections
for
Ada
County.
So
I
understand
what
split
precincts
do
and
really
minimizing
those.
So
thank
you
for
taking
that
into
account.
I
think
Boise
Avenue
is
such
a
clear
artery
like
a
lot
of
the
others
in
this
map
in
West
Boise,
to
be
able
to
help
voters
and
election
staff
and
managing
elections
and
I
think
the
fourth
the
fourth
split
City
staff
can
can
manage.
N
It
was
it's
just
a
little
little
thing
that
needs
to
be
fixed
over
in
the
Western
end
of
of
District
Four.
So
with
that
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
K
A
Eric,
would
you
do
us
a
favor
and
put
map
8
up
for
so
we
know
what
oh
we're
looking
at.
N
Yeah
Madam
chair
commissioner
I
I
think
when
you're
looking
at
the
population
and
trying
to
get
those
equal
populations
you
have
to
you
know
there
has
to
be
on
the
edge
of
the
city.
There
has
to
be
a
district
that
can't
be
too
much
population
and
so,
by
dragging
those
lines
over
you,
you
create
maybe
more
population
variants
in
those
areas.
N
So
I
do
I.
Do
get
to
your
point
about
Maple
Grove,
but
I
think
you
know
in
terms
of
your
point.
Splitting
developments
you
know
five
miles
is
a
main
road
main
main
block
structure,
driven
that
many
times
going
to
the
post
office
down
there
south
of
the
freeway.
N
That's
those
things
I
think
you
see
that
in
any
of
all
of
these
districts
in
any
of
these
Maps,
you
know
even
talking
about
Southeast
Boise,
where
you
know,
there's
there's
a
line
somewhere,
I
think
a
main
artery
Road,
like
that
kind
of
makes
sense,
either
way.
E
K
Don't
know,
that's
necessarily
yeah,
it's
a
very
long,
skinny
District
that
you've
proposed
and
it's
hard
to
see
that
people
will
be
that
much
interaction
along
there,
so
yeah.
But
thank
you.
I.
A
I
have
one
question
on
this
map:
what
type
of
accounting
did
you
take
for
growth
in
your
design
like
and
I
mean
I
I
kind
of
understood
it
from
when
I
was
doing
it
the
areas
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
for
potential
growth?
But
how
do
you
see
this
play
into
that
map?
How
do
you
account
for
that
specifically
Southwest
Boise
Harris
Ranch
area,
those
areas,
yeah.
N
So
particularly,
you
know,
I
don't
know
that
there
was
there's
built-in,
you
know
for
future
growth.
You
know
having
having
watched
redistricting
kind
of
for
legislative
districts,
and
things
like
I
didn't
know
that
that
was
you
know
something
to
be
to
be
looking
for.
I
did
know,
you
know
the
way
that
this
this
map
is
drawn
probably
gives
some
opportunities
for
growth
in
Southwest
Boise,
but
yeah.
It
wasn't
was.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Next
we
have
and
I'm
probably
going
to
butcher
this
name
because
I
I'm
having
a
difficulty
reading
it
but
Maria
Elena.
H
Hi,
like
you
said,
my
name
is
marilena
shuben
or
you
can
call
me
Emmy,
because
it's
pretty
long
mouthful
I
live
in
6160,
East,
Grand,
Prairie,
Drive,
Southeast,
Boise.
H
Guess
we
brought
everybody
from
here.
I
part
of
what
I
was
gonna
say
is
mostly
what
Diane
Schwartz
was
saying,
I
think
having
a
sense
of
community
and
keeping
that
sense,
and
then
you
know,
represented
being
represented,
as
one
is
important
to
us.
I
think
that's
the
point
that
we're
making
is
to
you
know
I'm
here
to
support
map
8,
because
it
does
that
I'm
there
watching
the
growth
and
being
concerned
and
I.
H
Think
growth
is
happening
in
different
ways
in
different
parts
of
the
city
impacted
some
of
us
are
needing
more
schools.
Some
of
us
are
not
needing
as
many
schools.
Some
of
us
are
getting
more
commercial,
less
residential,
there's,
so
many
different
ways
that
the
city's
different
regions
are
getting
impacted
and
but
obviously
my
interest
is
that
my
community
stays
as
a
community
and
has
its
own
identity.
We
loved
it.
I've
lived
there
for
10
years
now,
we've
moved
literally
within
three
blocks
because
we
love
our
area.
H
You
know
to
keep
that
character
and
that
the
community
sees
itself
as
a
community
and
when
we
have
problems
we
address
them
as
a
community,
because
we
see
ourselves,
we
see
the
problems
as
our
own
and
I
believe.
If
we
split
that
area,
then
you
know
the
feel
won't
be
the
same
and
the
sense
of
community
might
be
disrupted
and
that's
a
concern
for
me.
K
H
I
think
my
impression
is
that
it
does
the
same
thing
that
it
that
the
regions
or
areas
districts
I
get
confused
with
all
the
tech.
You
know
the
technical
component
of
it
but
I
from
my
perspective
and
I'm,
not
an
expert,
but
I
would
say
that
it
retains
that
Community.
You
know
the
branches
its
own
thing
and
then
you
know
the
rest
of
the
other
sections.
I
think
kind
of
have
that
character
and
I.
Think
that's
good
and
that's
important,
but
not
the
bench
but
further.
H
Well,
I
would
say
the
same,
but
again
you
know
I
spent
90
of
my
time
in
Southeast
Boise.
You
know
that's,
you
know
where
my
life
is
and
and
so
I
I
can't
speak
to
that.
But
that's
my
that's
how
I
I
read
this
map
and
that's
how
I
feel
how
this
map
addresses
my
concern
and
I
think
that's
what
other
people
have
been
saying
and
and
I
hope.
H
That's
something
that
you're
keeping
in
mind
because
I
do
get
the
whole
precincts
and
neighborhoods,
and
you
know
all
of
that
you
know
adds
headaches
to
everybody,
but
but
you
want
the
sense
of
community
there's
a
lot
of
growth
going
on
right
now
and
and
there's
there's
something
about
Boise
that
attracts
people
and
that
people
love,
and
if
we
break
that,
then
we
don't
have
what
what
we
love
about
it,
and
so
that's
I
guess
my
my
general
point
to
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Benham.
Q
Hey
there
Ben
Burnham,
4305,
West
Fairmont,
so
right
on
the
bench
Central
bench.
Q
My
primary
reason,
I'm
here
with
I,
also
found
my
way
to
number
eight
and
the
primary
reason,
on
my
end,
being
a
member
or
just
being
on
the
in
the
Morris
Hill,
but
right
by
the
cemetery,
Ada
County,
just
Ada
County
Highway
District
just
did
their
Central
bench
plan
and
I'm
a
big
non-car,
commuter
Enthusiast,
and
so
what
I
really
liked
about
this
plan
was
just
that
this
kind
of
puts
our
council
person
right
in
line
with
the
growth.
That's
going
to
happen
there.
Q
This
part
of
the
bench
is
continually
changing,
which
I
really
like
and
support,
welcome
more
people
here,
but
there's
going
to
continue
to
be
especially
Orchard
going
right
down
the
middle
there
and
then
Franklin
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
that
development
as
well,
and
so
my
personal
then
perspective
is
for
that
particular
area
and
being
able
to
bike
there
and
or
sorry
continue
to
advocate
for
that,
but
then
have
achd
and
the
city
work
together.
Q
Are
there
if
we
have
to
have
Regional
districts
for
city
council
I
hope
that
they
can
kind
of
make
sense
in
working
in
both
areas?
The
other
piece
that
I
like
is
just
having
the
connector
there
kind
of
has
that
designation
again,
showing
my
bias
as
a
bike
person.
That's
why
it's
terrible
to
build
an
interstate
through
the
middle
of
your
city.
Shouldn't
really
happen
like
that.
We
know
that
historically
throughout
the
United
States
and
why
that
was
done,
but
it
happened
it's
here
and
so
I
do
like
that.
Q
R
Thank
you,
I
have
a
question.
K
Yep
well,
I'll:
ask
you
the
same
question
about
other
parts
of
the
city,
but
particularly
West
Boise,
getting
west
of
the
bench.
I
I
see
you're,
just
District
Six,
which
you
like
you
know,
extends
all
the
way
over
to
Five
Mile.
So
it's
a
pretty
broad,
but
then
we
have
other
districts
that
are
quite
long
and
narrow.
So
how
do
you?
How
do
you
feel
about
that
area?
Yeah.
Q
I
meant
to
address
that,
so
you
didn't
have
to
ask
a
question.
Sorry,
yeah
I,
like
a
lot
of
folks,
I
travel
into
downtown
I,
don't
really
go
past.
The
connector
a
whole
lot,
the
times
that
I
do
just
looking
at
a
lot
of
them.
It
was
really
hard
for
me
to
figure
out
like
right
now,
we're
in
with
the
East
End
and
that's
tough
love
that
I
have
a
great
representative,
but
it
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
and
then
going
to
the
west.
Q
There,
okay,
I,
am
here
to
Advocate
on
my
area,
because
I
would
be
pretty
ignorant
in
regard
to
the
very
far
west
Boise
I
do
like
the
north
south
peace
because
it
just
looks
clean
to
me.
It
seems
like
to
me
the
kind
of
having
a
person
represent
the
parts
that
work
with
and
would
connect
to.
Eagle
and
Meridian
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
have
a
person
to
go
to
for
those
concerns
for
the
city
to
have
a
good
representative
to
connect
with
them
as
well.
Q
B
Hi
I
knew
that
was
going
to
happen.
Okay,
hi!
Thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
Ashley
Prince
I
live
at
1424,
South
Loveland
Street
I
am
here
to
support
map
8.
a
few
different
things.
So
I
have
lived
in
Boise
for
about
12
years.
I
first
came
here
to
go
to
BSU
I,
not
only
earned
a
degree
but
fell
in
love
with
the
city
and
planned
to
stay
here
for
a
very
long
time.
B
Over
those
12
years,
I
remained
a
renter
which
isn't
always
the
best,
but
that
does
mean
that
I
have
quite
the
extensive
history
of
just
living
in
different
parts
of
the
of
the
city.
B
B
It
was
just
a
couple
of
years
ago,
so
Wes
Boise
to
me
was
really
easy
to
go
down
five
mile
to
get
to
you
Albertsons
or
go
we're
near
Cloverdale
as
well.
That
long
and
skinny
kind
of
just
made
sense
in
my
mind,
from
living
there
previously
yeah,
so
I
could
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
just
like
the
bench,
one
as
well.
I,
really
like
the
precinct,
like
the
small
Precinct
splits
I
like
this
in
map
too,
as
well,
however,
mapped
to
the
where
I
live,
that
bench.
B
A
I
have
a
question
this
actually
might
have
been
better
asked
of
Mr
Morales.
But
how
do
you
explain?
A
K
K
C
Q
N
Yeah,
so
when
you're
looking
at
you
know,
I've
worked
downtown
for
for
quite
a
while
now
as
well
when
I
think
of
downtown
I
mean
it
is
to
the
edge
it's
to
the
West
End,
you
think
of
white
water,
district
and
Garden
City,
Starts,
so
I,
don't
know
yeah
I!
Guess
it's
up
to
interpretation,
what
you'd
consider
kind
of
downtown
and
what's
being
split
but
yeah.
It
is
kind
of
to
the
West.
A
Next
is
Abigail
Sanford
foreign.
S
Hi
there,
my
name
is
Abby
Sanford
I
live
at
2000
North
Mountain,
Cove,
Road
I
am
originally
from
Twin
Falls
and
moved
here
to
Boise
for
school
and
I
plan
to
make
Boise
my
home.
But
something
that's
really
important
to
me
is
that
the
boundaries
of
the
city,
council,
districts
are
really
clear
and
defined.
S
I
think
that's
really
important
in
making
sure
that
people
in
those
communities
know
where
they
live
and
where
they
like,
what
their
Community
is
and
I
think
that
map
number
eight
makes
the
most
sense
in
terms
of
boundaries.
I
think
that
specifically
the
West
Boise
districts
I
know
it's
condensed,
but
are
the
West
Boise
District?
It's
really
condensed,
but
it
uses
Five
Mile
in
that
Corridor.
S
S
I've
done
quite
a
bit
of
community
organizing
in
my
few
years
in
Boise,
and
it's
been
very
apparent
to
me
that
each
of
these
different
areas
of
Boise
have
communities
that
are
really
distinct
and
I.
Think
that
this
map
does
a
really
good
job
of
keeping
those
communities
together.
S
Again,
I'll
speak
to
the
the
Constitution,
the
equal
protection
Clause,
that
one
one
person
equals
one
vote
and
I
think
that
the
population
deviations
in
this
map
are
really
good
and
I
think
that
they
do
the
best
they
can
with
the
the
area
that
is
given
so
I'll.
Take
any
questions
you
have.
K
I
guess
it
keeps
coming
up
about
five
mile
being
an
artery,
but
this
is
not
a
discussion
about
commuting
times
or
access
it's
more
about,
as
some
other
people
have
spoken
up
in
the
Southeast,
especially
about
a
sense
of
community
and
neighborhoods
and
I
I
still
maintain
that
Five
Mile
divides
those
neighborhoods
that
it's
not
a
yes,
maybe
a
major
arterial
importance
to
the
city
and
moving
around
the
city,
but
that's
not
what
we're
looking
for
we're
not
looking
for
the
road
that
is
is
used
the
most
we're
looking
for
the
road
that
makes
a
logical
boundary
to
a
neighborhood
and
a
community.
K
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
that
that's
what
we're
looking
for
in
those
communities
go
across
Five
Mile,
so
not
are
necessarily
ending
at
Five
Mile,
unlike
some
other
boundaries
that
yeah
makes
sense.
You
know
that
that
and
I'm
not
familiar
exactly
with
with
why
Boise
Avenue
would
make
a
good
one
but
yeah
if
the
communities
are
separate,
then
yeah,
all
right.
That
makes
sense,
but
not
five
miles.
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
because
it
keeps
coming
up
that
five
mile
is
a
great
artery.
K
A
You
thank
you.
Tracy
Olson,.
L
Good
evening
my
name
is
Tracy.
Olsen
I
live
at
1562
East
Sendero
Lane
in
Boise,
which
is
over
here
on
the
East
End
I'm
here
tonight
in
support
of
map.
Eight
sorry
I've
lived
here
in
for
boys
in
Boise
for
15
years,
I've
lived
in
the
North
End
for
12,
and
we've
recently
moved
to
the
East
End.
L
My
kids
attended,
Boise
High
School,
my
husband
owns
a
small
business
in
the
East
End
and
the
boundaries
of
the
eastern
district,
five
Encompass
the
well,
you
already
know
the
boundaries,
and
this
is
an
area
where
we
live
work
and
play
and
I
want
my
city
council
member
to
be
able
to
address
the
needs
of
our
growing
area,
especially
regarding
growth,
along
Reserve
Street
and
towards
Harris,
Ranch
and
also
I,
have
concerns
about
the
Foothills
and
growth
and
how
it's
going
to
impact
there,
but
about
the
map
at
large,
especially
West
Boise
I
used
to
work
for
the
West
ADA
School
District
as
a
school
nurse
and
I
worked
out
on
Christine
Danelle
and
that
District.
L
L
I've
done,
I've
I
go
hiking
in
different
areas
and
I've
just
enjoyed
a
lot
of
things
that
have
gone
on
just
in
Boise
in
general
as
far
as
venues
and
restaurants
and
all
sorts
and
each
time
I
go
in
these
neighborhoods
I
really
do
feel
like
there's
a
distinct
feel
to
different
areas
and
I
to
me,
after
looking
at
the
maps,
I
feel
like
this
does
a
really
great
job
in
keeping
the
Integrity
of
those
neighborhoods
intact
and
I.
I
know
this
is
a
difficult
job.
C
K
C
P
P
My
neighborhood
association
is
split
in
legislative
district,
17
and
18..
So
when
I
did
this
mapping
process,
when
the
first
plan
came
out,
I
was
not
concerned
about
splitting
up
the
neighborhood.
It
was
more.
P
My
thought
process
was
I
looked
what
the
population
was
north
of
the
river,
but
there
wasn't
enough
people
north
of
the
river
for
two
districts.
When
I
looked
at
the
bench
from
Federal
Way
West,
you
know
West
Boise,
Southwest
Boise.
You
could
see
over
half
the
population
resided
out
there,
so
my
main
concern
was
is
making
sure
that
there's
two
districts
North
To
The
River
and
you
had
half
the
districts
on
the
bench
in
West
Boise
following
the
population.
P
Unfortunately,
because
there
weren't
enough
people
north
of
the
river,
you
have
to
divide
up
Southeast
Boise,
probably
if
you
take
population
from
Southeast
Boise
and
add
it
to
the
North
End,
then
you've
got
to
add
takeaways
population
From
the
Bench
to
equalize
Southeast
Boise.
So
when
you're
looking
at
this
I
think
it's
really
important
to
follow.
The
intent
of
the
law
is
the
lowest
possible
population
splitting
as
few
precincts
as
possible?
P
P
What
I
really
like
about
map
8?
Is
it
uses
distinct,
Highway
boundaries
in
the
precincts
which
eliminates
confusion
for
voters
all
the
way
into
downtown
and
how
downtown
is
split
up
you're
along
major
streets,
which
really
helps
the
voters
understand
where
they're
at
that's
a
big
problem
is
confusion
with
voters
and
as
far
as
the
question
about
Five
Mile
I'm
a
real
estate
agent,
there
is
no
subdivision
that
crosses
over
five
months.
P
They
are
delineated
right
and
left
or
north
or
east
west,
and
that's
basically
land
acquisition.
When
people
bought
land,
you
know
they
bought
it
on
the
east
side
of
Five
Mile
to
develop
it
or
they
bought
it.
West.
Now
those
individual
subdivisions
might
be
part
of
a
neighborhood
association.
But
in
my
experience
when
people
are
communicating
with
each
other
and
thinking
Community,
they
typically
are
looking
within
their
subdivision.
They
might
be
part
of
the
bigger
neighborhood
association,
but
the
subdivision
is
the
closest
knit
group
that
I
can
think
of.
A
T
A
T
You
yes,
I'm
Jennifer,
gravel
I
live
at
5605
North,
kirklift
Court,
so
that
is
West
Boise
and
my
testimony
that
I
wrote
out
just
so
I
wouldn't
lose
track
has
been
covered
mostly
tonight.
So
Miss
Peter
you've
asked
some
great
questions
about
Five,
Mile
and
I
am
here
in
support
of
map
8.
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why
I
agree
with
the
last
speaker
that
our
neighborhoods
aren't
broken
up
by
Five
Mile.
T
What
I
liked
about
map
8
was
that
it
didn't
split
precincts
like
the
last
gentleman
said,
I
think
that's
super
important
for
voter
confusion.
When
I
did
look
at
another
map
that
ended
at
Maple
Grove,
the
deviation
was
greater,
so
so
I
think
that
there
could
be
more
work
done,
maybe
to
move
that
border
to
Maple
Grove,
if
that's
a
huge
concern,
but
but
from
my
perspective,
I
relate
to
Matt
bait,
because
honestly,
I
don't
connect
with
the
services
as
much
on
the
other
side
of
Five
Mile.
T
For
me,
the
delineation
of
Five
Mile
makes
sense
because
I
actually
connect
more
with
the
rest
of
the
east
side
of
the
map
in
terms
of
the
parks
I
go
to.
In
terms
of
where
I
shop
and
the
general
services
that
I
get,
however,
Maple
Grove
is
a
boundary
for
the
West
data
district
and
map.
8
does
break
up
that
school
district
a
little
bit
and
I
would
be
the
first
one
to
advocate
for
school
communities
being
a
really
important
element.
That
brings
us
all
together.
T
The
one
thing
well,
like
I
said
we
could
do
some
more
work,
maybe
on
map
eight
to
see
if
we
can
move
the
boundary,
but
the
deviations
were
greater
on
the
maps.
I
saw
where
that
boundary
was
used.
A
Thank
you.
Any
questions.
R
Short
good
evening,
chairwoman,
love
and
members
of
the
commission.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
proposed
District
maps
and
thank
you
for
your
service
on
this
important
commission.
My
name
is
Roberta
D'amico
and
tonight.
I'm
speaking
for
myself,
I
have
lived
in
the
same
house
for
23
years.
Can.
A
You
State
your
address.
R
It's
the
same
house
at
3109,
South
Crossfield
way
in
Southeast,
Boise
I
moved
to
Boise
for
a
job
at
the
National
interagency
Fire
Center,
which
is
located
next
to
the
airport
living
in
Southeast.
Boise
has
worked
for
me
for
this
entire
time,
having
lived
in
the
same
area
for
so
long
as
well
as
being
a
volunteer,
neighborhood
watch
contact.
I
know
my
neighbors,
the
neighborhood
well
I
volunteered
in
various
capacities
for
years
and
I
continue
to
volunteer
in
community
groups.
Now
that
I'm
semi-retired
Boise
is
all
about
communities.
It's
to
me.
R
R
as
I
am
one
of
the
20
volunteer
community
members
on
the
Citywide
advisory
committee
on
for
the
zoning
code
rewrite
we
are
a
diverse
group
of
boysens
representing
different
areas
of
cities
with
various
opinions
and
ideas.
Yet
one
thing
we
all
want
is
what's
best
for
Boise
and,
as
you
know,
that's
going
to
be
a
challenge.
R
In
the
past
two
plus
years,
I
have
attended
the
monthly
advisory
committee
meetings
as
well
as
attending
about
90
percent
of
the
community
engagement
meetings
held
across
the
city
virtually
and
of
late
in
person.
Listening
I've
heard
how
important
the
localized
communities
and
neighborhoods
are
to
their
residents
again.
Like
many
have
said
tonight,
as
the
maps
presented
map
8
to
me
keeps
my
area
Community
as
well
as
other
communities
intact.
It
preserves
communities
and
limits.
The
split
of
precincts
to
a
bare
minimum
and
precincts
are
also
a
sense
of
community.
R
This
map
also
has
a
very
balanced
population,
split
with
a
low
deviation,
and
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
questions
about
West
Boise
I
have
a
lot
of
friends
across
the
city.
One
of
the
things
I
like
about
this,
this
particular
map
is
it
uses
those
major
roadways
and
the
rivers
as
boundaries
I
like
Maps
I,
like
paper
maps,
major
roadway
boundaries
to
me
are
really
helpful
to
Citizens
because
everybody
uses
an
electric
map
now,
so
they
they
may
not
be
as
familiar
with
GIS
or
other
type
of
mapping.
R
So
it's
for
these
reasons
that
I
I
do
support.
Map
8
and
I
feel
it's
worthy
of
your
consideration
and
maybe
a
little
bit
of
tweaking,
based
on
some
of
what
I
heard
this
evening
and
in
closing
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
and
thank
you
again,
I
know,
there's
a
short
time
and
a
lot
of
pressure
to
get
the
this
done,
and
so
thank
you
for
your
service
and
the
opportunity
to
comment
and
I
stand
for
questions.
A
U
A
Next
would
be
Bailey
Bingham.
Is
that
right.
D
Hi
committee
I'm
Bailey
Bingham
I,
live
up
at
a
2000
North
Mountain
Cove
Road
by
the
fed
by
the
military,
Reserve
I've
also
lived
in
Southeast
Boise
and
can
I'm
speaking
to
that
kind
of
same
area
that
a
few
other
people
have
spoken
about
and
how
it
has
a
common
sort
of
community
I'm,
also
a
Boise
State
student.
So
for
me
a
lot
of
my
life
exists
there,
whether
that's
internships
in
the
downtown
area
studying
at
Boise
State
and
just
in
that
area
kind
of
living.
D
My
life
and
you
know
interacting
with
others
that
have
a
sort
of
common.
You
know,
sort
of
place
in
life
and
and
desire
to
to
study
at
College.
D
I
will
say
I'm
here
in
favor
of
map
ape
like
a
lot
of
other
people,
but
I
did
take
a
gander
at
a
couple
of
the
other
maps
and
one
of
the
kind
of
perceived
weaknesses
to
this
point
about
map
8
is
that
it
has
this
long
and
skinny
part
of
it
and
looking
at
it,
I
mean
the
alternative
to
that
would
be
like
a
north-south
bisector.
D
And
if
you
do
that,
then
you
risk
having
a
a
really
long
portion
of
the
map
from
east
to
west
and
if
you
were
to
look
at
the
other,
Maps
you'd
find
that
there
was
a
pack
of
people
that
were
out
in
West
Ada,
who
are
also
tied
to
people
living
along
Federal
Way
in
East
Boise.
And
so,
if
that's
a
perceived
weakness,
I
mean
that
exists
in
in
many
of
the
maps
and
and
also
the
thing
that
really
is
strong
about
map
8
is
that
the
variance
is
low.
D
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Next
would
be
Meg
Faraday.
V
Good
evening,
council
members
and
chairman
love,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
and
I'm
going
to
vote
for
map.
Eight,
no
surprise
there.
So
I
would
defer
to
what
everyone
else.
V
This
amazing
collection
of
people,
who've
spoken
tonight
very
eloquently,
I,
don't
believe
I'm
gonna
be
able
to
add
anything
that
hasn't
already
been
said
and
I
noticed
on
the
little
piece
of
paper
that
I
was
given
when
I
walked
in
here
that
you
shouldn't
repeat
yourself
so
I
feel
like
everything
that
I
was
gonna
say
has
already
been
said,
and
but
let
me
introduce
myself
I'm
jumping
way
ahead.
I
live
on
1320
East
Hayes
way
in
Boise
and
I've
lived
there
for
some
20
odd
years.
V
V
And
that's
that's
my
story.
There
are
any
questions.
A
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Colin
Eddington
I
live
at
13183
West
Satin
Leaf
Drive
in
Boise
Far
West
Boise
I
can
hit
Eagle
Road
with
a
throne
Stone,
so
I've
lived
in
Boise
for
most
of
the
last
30
years.
I
think
I've
lived
in
every
single
District
in
that
time,
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
express
my
concerns
and
preserving
my
community's
unique
character.
U
So
this
is
going
to
come
as
no
surprise
that
I'm
here
in
support
of
map
8
as
a
parent
of
young
kids,
who
are
going
to
be
entering
the
school
district.
Soon,
it's
important
to
me
that
we
have
a
block
of
Voters
whose
kids
are
in
the
West
State
of
school
district,
so
that
we
have
a
strong
Advocate
on
the
council.
U
I
think
that
you
know,
as
we
look
at
like
a
long
north
south
district
there,
those
people,
while
we
may
not
all
be
in
the
same
neighborhood,
share
a
lot
of
the
same
impacts
and
resources
along
that
Corridor.
So
we
feel
the
expansion
of
commercial
and
residential
development
along
Eagle
Road,
very
similarly
I
work,
just
south
of
the
freeway
and
in
looking
at
the
map,
I
feel
like
it.
U
W
Always
talk
good
evening.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
doing
this.
My
name
is
Antonio.
Hernandez
am
I
too
close.
Is
there
a
echo
except
natural
I'm
gonna
pretend
I'm
taller?
Oh
actually,
okay.
Okay,
here
we
go
so
I
want
to
first
off.
Thank
all
of
you
for
doing
this.
I
was
previously
part
of
a
group
called
contamos,
which
was
for
the
2020
census
and
then
moved
on
to
redistricting
and
I
know
how
hard
and
difficult
this
road
is
for.
All
of
us
who
are
involved.
W
I
currently
live
369
South
Walnut
Street,
which
is
an
apartment
in
East
Boise,
but
I've
been
a
renter
I
was
born
and
raised
in
Nampa
and
also
attended
Boise
State,
so
I
feel
that
I
have
a
good
understanding
of
not
only
the
Treasure
Valley
but
Boise
specifically
having
been
living
here
living
here
since
2018.
W
I
am
advocating
for
map
8.
during
the
work
that
I
did
with
redistricting
in
the
census.
W
It
was
very
clear
to
me
that
there
are
a
lot
of
idahoans
that
don't
feel
like
they're,
representative
and
I
think
we're
in
a
very
unique
place
with
Boise
City
Council
Members,
where
we're
drawing
these
lines,
because
we've
now
reached
a
population
size
and
I
think
that
for
the
East
End,
the
West
End
and
North
Boise,
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
break
it
up
in
these
different
ways,
and
I
would
say
that
West
Boise,
just
based
on
what
I,
what
I
know
and
what
I've
heard
feels
underrepresented
and
that
the
further
west
you
go
I
think
the
more
that
becomes
true
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
speak.
W
To
that
point.
That
having
the
district
drawn
in
this
manner
allows
all
of
that
region,
north
south
west
Boise,
to
have
an
advocate
and
have
somebody
represent
them
their
interest
in
what
needs
to
happen.
There.
W
I
just
also
wanted
to
point
a
a
a
point
to
a
piece
that
was
talked
about
earlier
by
the
chair.
I
do
believe
the
downtown
area,
the
way.
I
W
8
splits,
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
I,
like
ticket
tail
I,
consider
that
to
be
part
of
downtown
the
Albertsons
off
16th
Street
I
do
not
consider
to
be
part
of
downtown,
and
so
that's
sort
of
how
that
makes
sense
to
me
and
I
said
for
any
questions.
A
I
would
argue
with
you
about
that
a
little
bit,
but
for
sure
that's!
Okay!
No!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
No
questions
here
anywhere
else.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
It
looks
like
we
have
one
more
person
online
on
Zoom
that
wants
to
comment,
so
we
will
open
it
up
to
them.
I.
Do
you
have
a
name.
O
Yes,
hi
Kate,
Milburn,
9524,
West,
Cascade,
Street
I'm,
also
here
to
speak
for
map
eight
when
I
initially
reviewed
these
Maps
I'm
not
gonna
lie
I,
wasn't
super
impressed
with
most
of
them
and
spent
some
time
using
that
mapping
tool
trying
to
draw
them
myself
and
was
ultimately
incredibly
unsuccessful
with
that
so
I
recognized
how
difficult
a
task.
This
is.
O
What
I
will
say
that
I
like
about
map
8,
is
that
it
does
a
really
great
job
keeping
West
Boise
together.
I
grew
up,
Five,
Mile
and
Franklin,
just
north
of
the
freeway
and
I
grew
up
in
that
neighborhood
15
years
hearing
my
father
say:
West
Boise
gets
ignored
and
I
think
map
8
does
a
really
beautiful
job
of
fixing
that
problem,
the
thing
I
think
is
unique
about
where
I
live,
which
is
Fairview,
Maple
Grove
area
and
again
that
that
Five
Mile
Corridor
is
that
folks
who
live
in
that
area
go
west.
O
We
do
our
shopping
at
the
Village.
If
I'm
going
to
Lowe's
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
one
on
Eagle
and
Ustick,
we
tend
to
do
a
lot
of
our
work
West.
Our
schools
are
generally
to
the
west
of
us
and
so
I
think
map
8
is
most
successful
in
that
way.
In
keeping
those
areas
together
and
I
would
stand
for
questions.
R
A
All
right,
so
we
will
now
close
the
public
hearing.
Are
there
any
general
questions
from
anyone
here.
A
I
guess
is
there
any
other
things?
Okay,
we
will
look
to
adjourn
the
meeting.
Then.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
the
October
19th
2022
meeting.
H
Sure
love
I
moved
to
adjourn.
K
A
In
favor,
say:
aye
aye
aye
no
opposed
the
this
meeting
is
adjourned.