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A
Let's
call
the
meeting
to
order.
First
and
foremost,
let's
do
a
roll
call,
click
love.
A
All
right
so,
first
business
today,
we've
got
our
minutes
and
from
August
31st
2022
and
we
will
need
a
motion
to
approve
those
minutes.
A
A
second
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in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
aye,
all
not
in
favor,
say
nay
and
eyes
have
it
so
we'll
move
on
to
our
presentations
for
the
evening.
A
B
Hello
Commissioners
good
afternoon
so
loud,
my
name
is
Tiffany
McCree
and
I
oversee
our
neighborhood
associations,
as
the
Energizer
neighborhoods
program
manager
for
the
city,
which
really
just
means
I'm,
the
liaison
for
between
the
city
and
our
neighborhood
associations.
Today,
I
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
share
a
little
bit
of
background
about
our
neighborhood
associations,
provide
some
insight
into
the
size
and
activity
of
our
neighborhood
associations
and
really
give
you
guys
the
opportunity
to
ask
any
questions
that
you
may
have
foreign.
B
So
in
1993,
our
neighborhood
associations
were
created.
Neighborhoods
worked
with
our
city
staff
to
create
their
geographical
boundaries,
so,
as
you
may
expect,
neighborhood
associations
weren't
all
created
at
one
time,
so
neighborhoods
would
come
to
our
city
staff
and
asked
to
become
a
formalized
neighborhood
association
in
which
we
would
use
streets
and
markers
within
the
community
to
provide
geographical
boundaries
for
those
areas.
B
Since
then,
we
have
been
working
with
our
planning
staff
and
our
planning
and
development
services
team
to
provide
alignment
for
the
planning
areas
and
our
neighborhood
association
boundaries.
The
most
recently
formed
neighborhood
association
was
West
Boise,
and
that
happened
at
the
end
of
2020,
and
that
was
the
last
time
that
we
looked
at
our
boundaries
for
our
neighborhood
associations.
B
Currently
we
have
35
established
neighborhood
associations
and
two
inactive
neighborhood
associations
which
are
Somerset
and
Quail
Ridge
actually
go
to
the
next
slide.
So
here
you
can
see
the
variety
and
size
from
our
neighborhood
associations,
with
23
that
purple
area
being
the
southeast
neighborhood
association
that
has
16
000
households
within
that
area.
We
also
have
the
smallest
neighborhood
association,
which
is
going
to
be
that
Glenwood
Rim
number
12,
teal-ish
color
on
the
map
and
that
sees
400
and
about
50
households
within
their
area.
B
B
And
really
this
just
provides
you
a
overview
of
our
activity,
so
27
have
newsletters
and
individual
websites.
We
have
30
that
utilize
social
media
28
that
send
postcards
out
to
our
community
10
that
participated
in
National
Night
Out
And.
Every
neighborhood
association
meets
at
least
once
a
year
with
30
receiving
some
type
of
funding
from
our
program,
whether
it
be
the
ACT
mini
Grant
or
our
neighborhood
investment
program,
and
really
this
is
just
a
snapshot
into
the
activity
of
our
neighborhood
associations.
A
majority
of
them
are
well
established.
B
They
understand
how
our
program
works
and
communicate
and
encourage
and
activate
neighborhoods
within
our
community.
However,
we
do
have
some
neighborhood
associations
who
are
either
going
through
leadership,
transitions
or
rebuilding
their
neighborhood
association,
who
may
not
actively
be
participating
in
the
programs
that
we
currently
offer
foreign
just
wanted
to
stand
for
any
questions
that
you
all
may
have.
D
Yes,
I
just
I
live
in
the
West
Valley,
which
I
guess
is
West
Boise
and
so
we're
the
newest
and
I
was
totally
unaware
of
it
until
this
commission
membership.
D
B
So
our
neighbors
neighborhood
associations
they
have
to
actually
a
lot
of
them,
do
canvassing
within
their
area.
They
sign
a
petition
to
see
how
many
neighbors
would
potentially
like
to
be
included
in
their
neighborhood
association.
They
then
bring
it
to
the
city
and
say
hey.
We
got
a
lot
of
this
community
support
for
organizing
within
our
community.
We
then
work
with
our
city
planners
to
look
at
what
the
geographical
boundaries
are.
We
also
myself
works
with
our
neighborhood
associations
to
say:
do
you
want
to
be
a
501c3?
B
How
do
we
get
you
activated
within
your
community,
whether
it
be
getting
Flyers
out
door?
Knocking
all
of
these
Community
engagement
that
we
offer
and
then
a
postcard
goes
out
once
neighborhood
associations
have
kind
of
went
through
all
of
those
steps,
letting
our
residents
know
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
formed,
neighbor
Association
in
the
upcoming
months,
so
we
do
do
a
lot
of
Outreach
and
we
asked
kind
of
for
that
at
the
Forefront
as
well
to
get
community
buy-in
from
our
neighbors
within
our
community.
B
The
two
funding
mechanisms
that
we
have
are
super
awesome.
We
have
the
ACT
mini
Grant,
which
provides
funding
for
administration
celebration
implementation
projects,
that's
a
smaller
bucket
of
money,
it's
up
to
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
every
year
and
neighborhood
associations
just
fill
out
an
application
online
and
it's
a
reimbursement
program.
So
they
say:
hey
I
really
want
to
do
a
celebration
within
our
community.
B
It's
going
to
cost
me
500
bucks
and
we
go
through
that
process,
and
then
we
give
them
a
check
following
that
celebration,
and
then
the
other
funding
mechanism
is
our
neighborhood
investment
program
which
allocates
up
to
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
Capital
Improvement
projects
within
our
community.
Again
same
kind
of
thing,
where
the
neighborhood
associations
are
filling
out
an
application,
it's
a
robust
application
and
then
we
review
them
internally.
Have
them
work
with
project
managers,
because
a
majority
of
the
time
the
projects
are
in
larger
scale,
working
with
project
managers.
B
We
review
them
internally
and
then
provide
funding
I
think
we
provided
10
neighborhood
association
spending
this
year
for
a
variety
of
different
projects.
So
those
are
the
two
funding
mechanisms
and
I
also
would
just
like
to
note
that
energizes.
Currently,
we
are
currently
looking
at
the
future
of
energize,
so
hopefully,
within
the
next
few
weeks,
we'll
be
coming
to
Mayor
and
council
with
recommendations
of
how
we
can
better
support
our
community
members
and
our
neighborhood
associations.
B
B
B
Some
provide
partner
with
nonprofits
and
businesses
within
their
communities
to
provide
like
in-kind
donations
or
donation
of
services,
which
is
awesome,
but
a
majority
of
the
funding
does
come
from
the
city.
I
would
say
for
primarily
a
large
component
of
our
neighborhoods.
That's
very
helpful.
B
E
A
B
I,
probably
even
get
emails
at
least
twice
a
week
asking
me
when
your
guys's
meetings
are
so
there
is
a
high
interest.
B
I
know
that
there
actually
has
been
a
few
neighborhood
associations
who
are
looking
at
maybe
redoing
their
their
mapping.
They
haven't
provided
any
formal
letters,
which
is
what
we
asked,
which
we
will
take
to
planning
and
development
services
and
we'll
provide
updates
to
you
if
that
does
occur.
But
currently
there
has
been
a
large
interest
in
districting.
A
Would
you
say
that
there
would
be
interest
in
like
us,
sending
out
an
information
Nest
like
to
them
about
the
mapping
and
when
it's
going
to
be
available?
Yes,.
B
And
we
can
provide
any
sort
of
emails.
I
can
work
with
Hannah
on
that
providing
them
any
sort
of
information.
I
do
put
try
and
put
any
upcoming
meetings
on
our
calendar
for
our
neighborhood
association,
so
they
are
aware
and
they
are
invested
in
what
is
happening.
Wonderful.
Thank
you.
F
Yeah
I
apologize.
Thank
you
commissions.
Thank
you,
Commissioners
I,
apologize
for
being
so
late,
I'm
stretching
myself
too
thin
these
days.
So
thank
you
for
your
patience
and
hopefully
it
wasn't
too
disruptive.
F
Chairwoman
love
it's
good
to
see
you
again.
It's
been
a
while
yeah.
It
has
been
a
little
while
kudos
to
being
here
and
being
involved
in
this
process.
I
just
I
had
reached
out
to
Hannah
in
the
city.
I
just
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
how
the
work
that
you
guys
have
been
tasked
with
impacts
us
as
an
Elections
office
and
just
to
give
you
some
feedback
and
oversight
both
about
the
statutory
aspect
of
it,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
and
I'm
certain.
F
You
probably
recognize
this
at
the
end
of
the
day.
The
reason
you're
doing
this
is
for
elections
right,
it's
determining
so
there's
the
representative
piece,
which
I
think
you're
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about,
but
in
a
practical
matter.
It's
so
that
we
can
conduct
elections
and
determine
who's
running
for
what
and
being
able
to
administer
those
elections.
So
our
office
is
tasked
with
running
all
elections
here
in
the
county.
F
Everything
from
president
all
the
way
down
to
Cemetery
District
commission
seats-
things
you
didn't
even
know
existed,
and
so
it's
our
responsibility
to
take
the
information.
The
output
of
what
you
do
will
be
passed
on
to
us
in
this
process.
So
we
have.
F
I
think
you
guys
are
just
at
the
outset
in
a
really
unique
position,
because
you're
dealing
with
districting
I
know
this
will
sound
silly
because
it
is
the
largest
city,
but
at
the
smallest
level,
right
most
districting
happens
on
a
much
larger,
Geographic
level.
So
when
you
talk
about
things
like
communities
of
Interest
or
anything,
the
larger
geography,
the
more
possible
that
is
the
more
narrow
you
get
the
harder
it
is,
we
start
splitting
hairs
in
terms
of
the
differences
among
people
right
or
and
differences
among
geography
and
I.
F
Think
that's
one
of
the
challenges
you
guys
will
be
navigating
plus
you
just
have
the
you
actually
with
the
city
of
Boise
have
some
of
the
most
interesting
geographical
limitations.
It's
not
too
different
than
when
redistricting
commission
for
the
state
of
Idaho.
The
state
redistricting
commission
always
starts
in
the
Panhandle,
because
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
space
around
the
Panhandle,
the
city
has
kind
of
its
own
Panhandle.
It's
just
a
weirdly
shaped
pan
right
and
so
I
think.
You've
got
some
interesting
things
to
navigate
in
this
process.
F
I
want
to
just
real
quickly
start
off
by
one
of
my
largest
motivations
for
reaching
out
and
I
I
guess,
I,
shouldn't
presume,
I'm,
making
assumptions
but
I
like
to
think
most
of
you
have
some
idea
who
I
am
I,
am
the
clerk
for
Ada
County?
Hence
why
I
oversee
elections
and
I'm
a
self-described
elections,
junkie,
chairman
love
and
I,
have
had
the
opportunity
to
work
together
in
elections
in
this
space,
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Hopefully
this
is
familiar.
F
This
is
last
year's
map
or
the
first
redistricting
for
the
city.
The
process
so
I'm
very
happy
to
see
the
process
that
you're
going
through,
not
just
for
public
input
and
participation,
but
also
just
a
more
formalized
process.
I
think
if
you
were
to
ask
anybody
involved,
but
particularly
Jamie,
Sullivan
and
I,
worked
very
closely
together,
trying
to
for
lack
of
better
we'll,
say
unwind
this,
because
last
year
there
was
a
short
time
frame.
It
was
difficult
for
the
city
to
figure
out
the
process.
F
The
statutes
are
very
vague,
including
what
you're
working
with
now
in
terms
of
how
this
should
work,
and
so
the
city
put
forth.
The
map
where
this
became
extremely
problematic,
is
when
we
received
this
information,
so
actually
the
map
you're
seeing
right
now
is
the
most
detailed
version
of
a
map
that
exists
right.
F
This
is
extremely
high
level
for
our
purposes,
because
we
have
to
determine
down
to
a
single
registered
voter
and
a
single
parcel
who
is
eligible
to
vote
in
what-
and
this
certainly
did
not
provide
that
level
of
information
it
wasn't
until
after
this
map
had
been
approved,
that
between
the
city,
attorney's
office,
our
office
and
then
Eric
wing
with
GIS
that
we
all
kind
of
coalesced
and
unfortunately,
because
it
had
already
been
approved,
we
kept
finding
issues
and
there
wasn't
a
clean
mechanism
to
resolve
those
issues.
F
I'm
going
to
share
some
of
this
with
you,
for
example,
you
wouldn't
know
that
what
know
this-
and
you
can't
see
it
on
this
map,
but
these
districts
include
areas
that
are
not
in
the
city
limits
right,
that's
kind
of
problematic.
Only
people
who
are
living
within
the
city
are
eligible
to
vote
in
City
elections.
F
Despite
we
have
a
map
that
has
people
outside
of
cities
and
actually,
when
you
were
just
earlier,
as
I
was
looking
at
the
neighborhood
associations.
One
thing
to
consider
is
those
neighborhood
associations
do
not
align
with
the
city
boundaries,
and
you
do
have
certain
again
practical
limitations
that
you
have
to
navigate,
and
so
just
to
give
you
a
couple
of
examples
of
the
things,
and
this
will
feed
into
my
main
point
that
we
had
to
deal
with.
This
is
an
example
of
the
boundary
line
between
districts.
E
F
Is
not
what
we
like
to
see
I
mean
the
good
news
here.
Is
it
didn't
cut
any
houses
in
half
We
have
dealt
with
that
in
the
past
and
trying
to
guess
you
know:
is
it
the
master,
bedroom
or
the
front
door?
How
do
we
determine
so
they
didn't
do
that,
but
you
can
you
can
easily
see
how
this
isn't
just
difficult
for
us
to
administer.
I
would
say
more
importantly,
it's
very
confusing
for
voters.
They
don't
understand.
F
Similarly,
here's
another
area
not
quite
as
bad
as
the
other
spot,
everyone
I
think,
probably
is
familiar
with
the
where
the
VA
is,
but
you
can
see
where
this
District,
if,
if
I
had
the
I,
can
pull
up
a
map
where
we
can
zoom
in
on
this.
If
you
want,
but
you
can
see
where
common
neighborhood
areas
are
split
in
kind
of
odd
ways
and
again
we're
the
one
you
won't
be
tasked
with
answering
the
questions.
It'll
be
us
at
Ada,
County
elections.
F
When
someone
calls
and
say
this
doesn't
make
sense
why
I
got
the
wrong
ballot,
that's
usually
the
question
we'll
get
right.
I
was
talking
to
my
neighbor
and
they're
voting
on
city
council,
member
X
and
I
got
this
one.
You
screwed
up
I'm
like
well,
we
didn't,
and
for
our
purposes
that's
really
important,
especially
right
now,
if
there
ever
was
a
time.
It's
just
that
in
our
world
not
only
causes
confusion,
but
it
erodes
trust
right
people
start
to
doubt
the
system
on
whether
it's
working
properly,
even
though
it
is
working
properly.
F
Thankfully
I'll
say
this
doesn't
relate
to
the
work
you're
doing,
but
the
city
of
Boise
has
done
a
very
good
job
of
annexing
areas
within
the
city,
for
example,
in
the
neighboring
City
Meridian.
We
deal
with
a
lot
of
issues
where
the
city
has
not
annexed
Parcels
within
the
city,
and
so
we'll
have
people
who
live
like
downtown
Meridian
and
are
upset
that
they're,
not
the
mayor,
isn't
on
their
ballot
and
we're
like.
Well,
you
don't
live
in
the
city,
they're
like
what
are
you
talking
about?
I
can
see
the
library
like.
F
Yes,
that's
true,
but
you
don't
live
in
the
city
and
we
have
to
navigate
some
of
these
things
right
and
that
these
are
the
kind
of
challenges
that
we
run
into
my
biggest
request
and
and
and
push
is
and
I.
Think
I,
don't
know
I'm
going
to
assume
people
have
started
to
give
you
legal
advice
and
this
process
as
you
navigate
things,
but
is
the
importance
of
precincts
there's
a
line
in
the
statute
regarding
City
districts,
as
I've
highlighted
here
that
they
are
to
be
each
be
made
up
of
contiguous
precincts.
F
I
can
tell
you
that
line
was
specifically
put
in
there
to
appease
me,
as
well
as
my
peers,
but
probably
most
particularly
representative
Palmer
knew
when
drafting
it.
I've
opposed
other
legislation
in
the
past
where
it
involves
splitting
precincts
because
it
causes
us
some
real
challenges
and
I
know.
F
German
love
is
very
familiar
with
this,
because
she's
personally
navigated,
some
of
these
issues,
what
happens
is
some
precincts
are
going
to
be
split
inevitably,
just
because
the
city
boundaries
don't
align
with
our
precedes,
that's
natural,
but
every
instance
where,
where
our
Precinct
is
split,
creates
risk
for
us
and
the
best
way
to
frame
it
is
risk.
F
To
give
you
the
best
example,
because
this
is
what
always
comes
to
mind,
is
the
risk
is
I'm,
not
the
one
generally
administering
our
election
laws.
That
seems
strange,
I
mean
I.
I
am
definitely
a
junkie
when
it
comes
to
this.
The
person
who
is
is
probably
one
of
your
neighbors
right
or
even
a
parent
or
friend,
it's
our
poll
workers.
We
do
pay
them,
but
they're,
largely
it's
a
community
service
that
they're
performing
it's
a
long
day.
F
This
is
right,
if
they're
all
within
one
Precinct,
they
only
have
one
ballot
right,
they'll
give
the
ballot
for
that
Precinct
and
the
city
council
members,
that's
what
they'll
get
to
vote
on.
But
if
we
introduce
a
split
all
this
sudden,
we
have
multiple
ballots
and
we
have
the
risk
of
issuing
the
wrong
ballot
to
the
wrong
person.
Our
most
our
the
example
I
refer
to
most
happened
in
2013.
F
It
was
the
city
of
Eagle
had
a
bond
on
their
ballot
to
purchase.
Eagle
City
Hall
not
super
relevant
to
this,
but
there
were
also
other
elections
going
on
at
the
same
time,
because
we
do
a
bunch
of
different
ones
and
in
that
particular
case,
some
poll
workers
at
one
of
the
precincts
got
confused
and
they
started
issuing
a
ballots
to
B
voters
and
B
ballots
to
a
voters
right.
The
precincts
were
split,
so
it's
the
voters
who
live
in
the
city
and
the
voters
live
out
of
the
city
getting
differed
getting
the
wrong
ballots.
F
We
caught
that
right
away.
First
thing
in
the
morning,
so
polls
open
at
eight
by
eight
thirty.
We
had
caught
the
mistake
and
fixed
it
and
anytime.
We
find
an
error
like
this.
We
document
it
just
in
case
it
becomes
relevant
later
on.
Well.
In
this
particular
instance,
the
city
Bond
failed
by
27
votes
yeah.
This
is
why,
in
elections,
we
pray
for
white
margins
and
we
were
able
to
ascertain
when
we
went
back
and
looked
that
more
than
27
ballots
had
been
issued
in
error.
D
F
F
It
doesn't
feel
that
big
when
we're
having
some
of
these
conversations,
but
on
our
side
when
we're
actually
doing
it
and
a
mistake
is
made,
the
consequences
are
really
big
right,
let
alone
you
know
you
can
appreciate
if
a
City
Council
election
doesn't
go
well
and
we
have
an
error
like
that
again,
it
erodes
trust,
because
a
couple
of
things
one
is
people
it
make,
loses
they
lose
confidence
in
just
the
elections
process
at
large
when
mistakes
like
that
happen-
and
it
affects
the
outcome
right
and
you're
going
to
hear
from
people
along
the
way
who
I
think
you
know
for
whatever
reason
issue
with
the
city,
they
have
frustrations
in
some
form
or
fashion.
F
The
other
part
of
that
is
when
we
do
redo
an
election,
we
can
never
replicate
the
circumstances
right.
The
fact
that
that
happened
and
people
know
the
results.
F
It
changes
so
you're,
not
gonna,
get
the
you
know
the
quote-unquote
correct
result
by
doing
it
over
again,
you're
just
gonna,
because
turnout
will
always
be
different.
The
timing
is
different.
The
campaigns
are
different,
a
lot
of
things
change
as
a
result
of
that,
which
is
why
it's
so
important
to
us
to
try
and
make
it
as
simple
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
get
the
election
right
every
time
and
that
that
really
is
at
the
core
of
our
interest
in
this
and
for
us
in
in
the
case
of
the
work
you're
doing
it's.
F
Those
Precinct
shapes
that
really
matter
the
most
one
of
the
things
that
helps
you
and
it
helps
and
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
challenging
is
following
the
2020
census.
We
updated
all
of
our
precincts.
We
expanded
to
we
added
50
precincts
county-wide,
just
to
Inc,
because
the
increase
in
population-
and
that
includes
in
the
city,
so
our
Precinct
sizes
shrink.
So
that
means
you're
able
to
have
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
with
those
precincts.
F
The
downside
is
the
census
blocks
right.
So
when
you're
looking
at
population
numbers,
it's
kind
of
an
out
of
order
of
events,
but
the
U.S
Census
Bureau
takes
precincts
into
consideration
when
they
draw
census
blocks,
but
they're
relying
on
the
2018
precincts,
not
the
2022
precin.
So
and
we
start
from
scratch
when
we
redraw
the
precincts,
it's
just
more
practical
for
us
to
start
from
scratch
and
rebalance,
and
so
we've
done
that.
F
Finally,
I'll
just
show
you
because
I
know
one
of
the
you
know
the
main
purpose
is
representation
and
specifically
the
the
concept
of
one
person,
one
vote
right
and
so
trying
to
balance
it.
Both
the
statute,
as
well
as
constitutional
Provisions,
require
that
for
equal
protection
that
you
have
one
person,
one
vote
or
as
close
as
practical
I.
We
are
agnostic
in
terms
of
what
the
city
districts
look
like.
We
do
not
care.
F
We
just
would
like
them
to
match
precedes,
and
that's
really
my
request
today,
but
just
to
demonstrate
we've
played
with
the
information
in
the
past.
We've
done
this
for
CWI
when
they
districted,
we
assisted
them.
Most
recently
we
assisted
the
city
of
Meridian,
while
they
were
doing
their
districts
and
I.
Think
they
were
in
a
similar
position
to
you.
They
were
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
and
we
pointed
out
like
look.
F
We
can
use
precincts
and
if
you
start
to
just
look
at
the
precedes
as
puzzle,
pieces
and
you're
just
trying
to
find
whatever
set
of
combinations,
you
feel
best
or
makes
the
most
sense
that,
from
my
perspective,
is
the
best
way
and
it
also
fits
with
what
the
legislative
intent
of
this
statute
was,
and
so
just
quick
again,
I'm
not
recommending
these,
but
I
want
to
show
you
because
we've
played
around
with
it
a
little
bit.
We've
built.
F
We
basically
looked
at
the
old
map
from
last
year
and
said:
hey
can
we
come
up
with
similar
ish
districts?
This
is
just
to
show
that
there
are
examples
using
the
current
information
and
population
data.
So
in
this
case
you
can
see
the
D.
The
deviation
between
districts
and
population
is
six
point.
It's
basically
seven
percent
right.
So
here's
one
example:
all
again,
this
is
different
than
what
last
year's
Maps
were
but
close-ish.
F
Similarly,
here's
another
variation
up
to
nine
percent
and
I
think
most
impressive
from
our
office.
Is
this?
Here's
an
instance
where
we've
gotten
it
down
to
two
and
a
half
below
two
and
a
half
I
share
this
with
you
mainly
to
point
out,
because
usually
the
first
response
we
hear
when
we
say
precincts
is
oh,
we
would
love
to
do
precincts,
but
we
can't
get
it
within
the
population
and
I'm
just
here
to
say.
F
Yes,
you
can
I've
been
through
this
exercise,
not
numerous
times
now
and
so
I
encourage
you
to
work
with
Eric
and
team
and
I
know
you
guys
will
be
seeking
Community
input,
at
least
from
what
I've
heard
right
is
to
encourage
the
community
when
they're
doing
it
to
take
this
into
consideration
as
well,
because
this
really
is
that
output
and
what
this
information
will
be
used
for
is
to
administer
the
elections
at
the
end
of
this
entire
process.
G
Chair
love,
I
have
a
question:
how
often
are
the
precincts
redrawn
than
is
it
every
two
years
or
a.
F
Great
question
in
in
the
grander
concept,
just
like
what
you
are
doing:
it's
every
census,
it's
a
after
every
census,
we'll
redraw
all
of
the
precincts
in
between
the
censuses.
We
may
split
precincts
because
population
grows
for
the
purposes
of
the
city
of
Boise.
That's
pretty
rare,
because
you
just
because
of
the
density
of
the
city,
there
isn't
much
need
where
we
end
up
spreading
splitting
precincts
and
actually
I.
Think
one
of
the
people
who
did
it
last
time
was
chairwoman.
F
Love
is
like
star
western
meridian,
so
it's
area
where
you
have
Farmland,
there
aren't
people
and
all
of
a
sudden
you
get
2
000
people
and
it's
like
okay.
We
can
no
longer
handle
that
many
people
in
a
polling
place.
So
we
will
do
that
every
two
years
as
needed,
but
even
over
the
course
of
the
last
decade,
I'm
trying
to
think
it's,
probably
less
than
10
precincts
that
we
adjusted
it
over
that
entire
decade.
But
after
each
census
we,
when
the
legisl
after
the
legislative
districts
are
drawn.
H
Madam,
chair
I
have
a
question
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
so
much
for
Phil
or
if
it's
for
Hannah
or
for
the
esteemed
attorneys
behind
us,
but
I.
Think
one
of
the
questions
that
I
have
is
sort
of
how
the
commission
can
interact
with
the
county
elections
office
to
ensure
that
you
know
we're
kind
of
we're,
not
maybe
getting
your
blessing
by
any
chance,
but
we're
sort
of
ensuring
that
we're
checking
the
boxes
just
so
that
whatever
goes
to
council
for
approval,
is
really
awesome.
H
F
Right
I'd,
say:
I
Hannah
can
weigh
in
as
well
I
I'm
open
to
answer
questions
along
the
way
or
assist
we,
and
we
do
that
at
the
state
level
right.
So
even
the
state
redistricting
process,
they
will
provide
US
maps
in
advance
to
review.
So
we
can.
There
was
a
great
example.
This
was
a
decade
ago
when
they
drew
it
where
I
asked
them
to
move
a
line
because
they
had
voters
up
Bogus
Basin
Road
that
would
have
to
drive
an
hour
and
45
minutes
to
their
polling,
location
and
I
said.
F
If
you
just
move
the
line
this
way,
they
all
of
a
sudden
only
have
to
drive
20
minutes
right.
I,
that's
not
going
to
happen
in
your
context.
Geography
is
vastly
different,
but
we're
happy
to
after
you've
come
up
with
the
general
map
just
to
make
sure
kind
of,
like
those
Oddities
that
you
that
I
showed
that
those
don't
exist.
We're
happy
to
assist.
C
And
chair
11
Vice,
chair
Perry
in
our
policy
in
our
distressing
policy,
we
have
written
in
there
that
will
coordinate
with
the
county,
so
so
we'll
be
in
touch
and
either
ask
you
back
or
get
feedback
and
I
can
bring
that
back
to
you
perfect.
Thank
you.
D
D
F
I
A
Next,
we'll
move
on
software
yeah
bear.
I
So.
Thank
you,
Commissioners
I
know
you
all
had
an
opportunity
to
test
drive
this.
It
wasn't
a
hundred
percent
functional,
but
we
had
80
percent.
It
was
enough
just
to
get
a
feel
for
this
is
how
the
tool
looks
and
feels
and
operates,
but
I
do
know.
There
were
some
key
functions
that
needed
to
be
set
up
and
they
should
be
ready
to
go
as
of
about
an
hour
before
this
meeting
so
I
appreciate
your
patience.
I
I
know:
you've
been
eagerly
awaiting
I'm
gonna,
open
up
a
plan
just
to
test
one
that
I
put
together
just
to
show
you
the
functionality.
This
is
not
anything
that
is
something
I
would
actually
submit,
but
this
is
the
same
tool
that
the
public
will
have
access
to
as
well.
I
do
know
that
you
were
very
interested
in
saying:
we
need
to
see
where
the
county
precincts
are
and
the
neighborhood
associations
they
come
up
to
display.
You
can
go
to
layers.
I
I
And
as
you
zoom
in
you
can
get
some
more
detail.
The
blocks
that
are
shown
here,
99
of
the
time,
follow
roadways.
However,
it
does
not
show
individual
Parcels.
It
is
technically
possible
for
me
to
get
Parcels
in
here.
I'd
have
to
work
with
the
vendor
and
we
could
put
the
property
in
there
to
help
get
an
idea
of
how
many
Parcels
we're
talking
about.
However,
you
could
just
look
at
the
population
just
to
get
an
idea
of
the
density
of
the
population.
That's
in
there.
There
is
more
background
information
we
can
put
in
here.
I
I
would
ask
that
if
we
do
that,
take
a
look
and
see.
Does
that
answer
your
question
or
does
that
just
clutter
up
the
point
of
this
particular
map
and
then
we'll
switch
over
to
the
county?
Precincts
I
can
say
off
the
cuff.
It
will
be
significantly
easier
to
match
the
county
precincts
during
this
exercise.
Then
it
will
be
to
match
it
up
with
the
neighborhood
associations
that
was
alluditude
before
those
boundaries
were
drafted,
with
totally
different
ideas
in
mind.
I
It
was
almost
irregardless
of
population,
it's
whatever
those
neighborhood
associations
at
the
time,
felt
that
this
is
an
area
that
we
want
to
capture
and
represent.
There
will
be
a
lot
of
cases
where
we
might
be
able
to
match,
but
in
general
it
will
be
difficult
to
do
across
the
board,
particularly
as
you
start
getting
into
the
urban
center
foreign
other
information
that
was
asked
for
was
to
show
additional
race
and
ethnicity.
So
these
are
the
common
breakdowns
that
you'll
see
in
a
lot
of
demographic
analysis.
I
Those
were
not
available
earlier
today,
but
they
are
now
so,
along
with
the
population,
as
you
start
modifying
districts,
you
will
be
at
live
feedback
about.
What
does
the
breakdown
look
like
when
you
look
at
race
and
ethnicity?
Should
you
choose
to?
You
can
also
turn
those
off
if
you
do
not
want
them
to
be
a
factor
in
your
considerations.
This
goes
for
the
public
as
well.
The
information
is
there
for
those
that
want
to
assess
that.
I
So
my
goal
today
was
not
to
Showcase
all
the
different
tools.
I
know:
we've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
I
can't
entertain
any
questions
that
you
have.
There
were
three
questions
that
came
up
during
the
the
initial
test.
Drive
that
I
wanted
to
answer.
One
was
about
residency
validation,
so
as
it
stands,
this
solution
does
not
check
the
residency
for
anyone
that
submits
a
plan.
It
won't
stop
anybody
from
submitting
a
plan.
However,
when
an
individual
goes
to
share
a
plan,
they
say
I
want
to
submit
this
to
administrators
granted.
I
I
I
can
validate
if
the
address
that
they're
associating
with
the
plan
for
who
to
represent
them
is
within
the
city
limits,
but
that
is
something
I
would
look
towards
the
commission
about
who
gets
to
submit
a
plan
who
doesn't,
if
somebody
that's
over
on
the
east
coast,
they
could
get
access
to
this.
It's
going
to
be
a
publicly
available
web
address.
They
can
submit
a
plan.
Those
could
come
in
I
would
be
surprised
if
we
get
a
lot
of
that,
but
the
capability
is
there.
I
The
other
question
that
came
up
is:
can
somebody
submit
multiple
plans
and,
yes,
they
can.
Somebody
could
put
in
one
somebody
could
put
in
12.
They
could
also
resubmit
plans,
so
they
could
make
a
submission
and
then,
within
the
feedback
period,
if
they
decide
to
make
a
change,
they
could
take
that
this
original
submission
make
modifications
and
resubmit
it.
The
last
submission
they
put
in
would
be
the
one
we
would
count,
but
we
will
have
a
record
saying
that
all
right
they
submitted
twice,
but
they
alter
their
plan.
I
The
other
thing
that
was
asked
was
about
the
review
process.
This
solution
does
have
a
way
to
review
all
the
plans
that
have
been
submitted,
it
was
not
very
elegant.
I
would
not
recommend
it.
We
were
going
to
operate
with
the
Assumption
from
the
get-go
with
this
that
we
will
extract
information,
preserve
it
as
it
was
captured
through
this
tool,
and
I've
got
better
tools
that
I
can
use.
I
That
will
be
very
transparent,
publicly
available,
much
easier
to
sift
through
the
different
proposals
that
come
through
this
solution
would
be
very
tedious
and
also
opens,
unfortunately,
the
way
it's
set
up.
If
you
set
up
a
review,
you
set
it
up
in
an
edit
mode.
So
it's
like
an
open
Word
document
that
anybody
could,
edit
once
they
look
at
it.
That's
very
dangerous
to
do
in
this
situation,
which
is
another
reason
I
will
not
recommend
it,
but
anything
that's
submitted.
We
can
make
available.
H
Madam
chair
for
a
question
Eric.
Thank
you
so
much
I
know
this
has
been
a
huge
project
for
you
to
undertake.
Can
you
confirm
if
the
vendor
was
using
the
2020?
The
current
precincts
for
the
counties
just
hearing
that
they
have
recently
added,
50
or
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they're,
using
not
the
old
precincts
but
they're
using
the
current
precincts.
I
A
I
actually
had
a
quick
question.
Is
there
any
way,
because
one
thing
I
when
I've
used
this
software
is
That
You,
Don't,
See
streets,
very
well
at
all
in
the
base
layer
or
if
you
select
the
layer,
it's
very
difficult
to
to
see
and
I
think
that
having
streets
just
as
much
as
precincts
is
kind
of
an
important
element
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
any
way
we
can.
A
I
I
A
Yeah
have
some
flexibility
with
that,
especially
for
like
the
public
when
they
get
their
hands
on
this,
they
might
not
be
as
familiar
say
as
the
rest
of
us
are
with
the
streets.
So
I
think
that
would
be
really
important
to
to
look
at
because,
like
Phil
said,
we
definitely
don't
want
them
cutting
up
neighborhoods.
So
much,
then
we
kind
of
want
them
to
stick
to
that
and
I
think,
especially
if
they
don't
stick
to
precincts.
We
at
least
want
them
to
stick
to
roads,
to
make
it
easier
for
us.
G
D
I
could
add
to
that.
It
says
that
the
scale
for
the
streets,
for
example,
is
one
to
the
500
000.
is
that
the
source
is
from
the
one
to
five
hundred
thousand
Maps.
I
D
Up
in
the
legend
I'm
talking
about,
what's
showing
in
the
legend
of
the
layers
where
it
says
stream
and
display
scale,
is
one
to
five
hundred
thousand.
So
that's
the
display
scale.
But
if
you
zoom
in,
do
you
get
a
a
a
smaller
scale.
G
F
H
Questions
Madam
chair,
it's
more,
maybe
a
question
for
you
or
for
Hannah
or
maybe
for
Eric,
is
just
sort
of
like
what
we
should
kind
of
expect.
The
commissioner's
next
steps
to
do
kind
of
when
are
we
thinking
we're
ready
to
clearly
we
might
need
to
double
check
some
things
before
it
goes
out
to
the
public
which
I
know
you're
working
on
Eric,
but
I
just
didn't
know
if
you
had
expectations
for
Commissioners
on
kind
of
what
you
envision
as
next
steps
as
we
prepare
for
the
next
meeting.
A
Well,
I
think
kind
of
what,
in
my
thoughts
were,
is
that
we
would
all
work
on
plans
this
week.
A
If
you
want
to
take
a
whack
at
it
and
do
your
own
own
districts,
that
would
be
ideal,
so
we
can
kind
of
come
together
and
at
least
give
examples
to
the
public
of
what
we're
expecting
and
what
we're
looking
at,
and
you
know
we
can
either
make
them
shareable
with
the
public
or
through
the
software
I
think
we
could
actually
do
that
or
we
could
actually
just
utilize
what's
out
here
already
and
have
the
public
work
off
of
that.
I
C
Sure
love
can
I
just
add,
based
on
your
initial
meeting
and
what
you
all
decided
schedule-wise.
C
We
have
a
meeting
next
week
and
then
there's
a
few
weeks
off
and
that's
the
that
I
think
there's
a
two-week
period
where
we
planned
to
open
up
the
tool
for
the
public.
So
the
next
meeting
is
September
28th,
assuming
we
can
validate
that
the
data
is
what
we
need
it
to
be,
and
it's
ready
to
go.
C
We
would
open
it
up
the
day
after
on
the
29th
for
the
public
and
I
can
I'm
going
to
pull
my
calendar
up
while
we're
doing
this,
and
then
your
the
meeting
after
that
would
be
October
19th.
So,
ideally,
we
would
open
it
up
to
the
public,
September
29th
and
likely
close
it
two
weeks
later
on
October
13th.
That
gives
us
some
time
to
pull
I'll
confirm
that
with
Eric,
but
to
pull
that
information
out
of
the
system
and
get
it
ready
for
you
all
for
that.
Following
meeting
and.
A
When
would
you
need
our
maps
by
for
the
meeting
next
week?
Did
we
decide
that.
I
On
a
technical
standpoint,
I'm
going
to
follow
the
timeline
that
you
need,
if
I
can't
make
it
happen,
I
will
let
you
know,
but
honestly,
the
this
data
resolutions
I'm
fairly
confident
within
the
next
two
days.
We
can
get
that
up
and
running
so
that
the
tool
will
be
functional,
be
a
little
bit
easier
to
orient
around
Boise.
C
Share
love
if
I
might
ask
Eric
if,
if
the
Commissioners
have
map
proposals
to
you
by
Tuesday
early
Tuesday
of
next
week,
would
that
be
enough
time
for
you
to
pull
that
out
and
be
able
to
present
them
here?
Yes,.
D
I
A
Any
other
discussion
or
questions,
oh
okay,
no,
that
is
everything
it
looks
like
we
can
adjourn,
is
they're
a
motion
to
adjourn
the
September
21st
2022
meeting
so
moved.
Oh.
E
E
E
Thank
you
very
much
for
taking
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
looking
at
this
very
seriously
because,
as
Phil
had
said
before,
I
think
the
other
map
seemed
to
be
kind
of
just
put
out
there
and
it
was
without
any
public
input.
My
question
is
for
this:
next,
are
you
guys,
looking
at
creating
maps
to
have
public
input,
or
are
you
looking
for
the
public
to
create
Maps
or
do
you?
How
do
you
see
that
evolving.
A
I'll
answer
that
so
a
little
bit
of
both
so
we're
going
to
create
Maps
here,
which
we
will
present
to
the
public
and
if
they
want
to
give
us
feedback
on
those
Maps
they're
welcome
to
there
will
be
an
open
meeting
for
the
public
in
October
sometime,
but
we're
also
asking
the
public
to
submit
Maps.
So
we
can
find
the
absolute
best
option
for
the
city,
so,
like
I
said
it's
a
little
bit
of
both.
A
So
if
the
public
comments
on
ours
and
says:
hey
we
like
this,
but
can
you
adjust
it
here?
You
know,
or
you
know,
we'll
get
feedback
that
way
and
then
we'll
also
get
public
maps
and
we'll
be
able
to
to
comment
on
those
as
well.
Okay,.
E
Does
that
help
it
does
it
does
I'm
a
little
I
guess,
I
think
the
mapping
process
no
matter
the
software
is,
you
know,
there's
the
rules
with
the
10
I.
Don't
think
a
lot
of
people
are
really
aware
of
that.
This
will
be
I.
Guess
it'll
be
interesting,
but
if
we
want
public
input,
that's
probably
a
good
thing
to
do.
H
Madam
chair
and
we
share
the
same
concerned.
Kathy
thanks
for
coming
and
I.
Think
there's
going
to
be
a
goal
where
the
commission
website
is
gonna
in
at
best
plain
language
possible,
explain,
sort
of
what
the
ordinance
requires.
So
it'll
explain
things
like
the
population,
variance
aligning
with
precincts
trying
to
keep
communities
of
Interest
together,
so
I
think
you're,
right,
I
think
there
will
be
a
challenge,
but
I
think
we'll
do
our
best
absolute
best
to
ensure
that
folks
know
what
the
process
is
and
it's
a
it's
modeled
after.
H
Similarly,
how
the
legislative
redistricting
just
happened
as
well,
so
we're
hopeful
that
we'll
at
least
give
enough
guidance
where
you
can
play
around
enough
and
and
try
your
level
best,
but
otherwise
your
chairman
love
is
actually
very
correct
in
that
we'll
just
take
public
input
on
maps,
if
you
don't
feel
like
drawing
your
own
as
well.
So
final.
A
If
they
submit
them
for
public
record,
then
absolutely,
but
they
would
have
to
do
that.
So
if
they
go
through
our
software
and
submit
it
and
present
it
to
us
as
an
option,
they
will,
they
could
be
part
of
it
absolutely.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
now
with
that,
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
Madam.