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From YouTube: Boise Public Library Board Meeting
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November 10, 2021
A
B
A
All
right,
thank
you,
carrie,
okay,
moving
on,
then,
let's
go
ahead
and
start
moving
through
the
agenda.
Currently
we
have
no
communications.
Next
up
on
our
agenda
is
our
meeting
minutes,
which
is
an
action
item.
So
I'm
looking
to
see
if
we
can
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
october
13
2021
meeting
minutes.
A
D
A
D
A
A
A
E
Thank
you
for
having
me.
Can
everyone
hear
me?
Yes,
ma'am
great
I've
got
some
quick
bullet
points
to
go
over
here.
The
first
is
that
we
held
our
elections
for
calendar
year
2022
at
our
last
board
meeting
I
was
re-elected
as
president
eileen
oldage
will
be
coming
in,
as
our
vice
president
kayla
church
will
be
coming
in
as
our
secretary
and
celia
renner
is
returning
for
a
few
more
months
as
our
treasurer.
E
We
thought
that
was
the
most
prudent
way
to
go
since
we
had
been
raising
this
money
on
the
back
of
the
raise
a
million
for
the
main
campaign,
and
since
we
do
all
of
our
fundraising
through
small
individual
sales,
it
would
be
practically
impossible
to
go
back
to
people
and
say
hi,
we're
going
to
use
this
money
for
something
else.
So,
in
order
to
continue
to
build
on
the
community,
enthusiasm
and
support
for
that
project,
that's
how
we've
decided
to
handle
that.
E
So
we
are
investing
a
little
bit
over
time
so
that
we
don't
go
in
at
any
particular
moment
in
the
market
and
we're
just
looking
forward
to
trying
to
get
some
better
returns
than
we
were
with
our
certificates
of
deposit.
I
just
thought
that
might
be
of
interest
to
you.
Knowing
that
that
money
was
out
there
for
the
future
and
another
update
I
have
is
this:
last
weekend
we
had
our
first
what
we
would
characterize
as
a
big
sale
for
for
us.
E
We
also
spread
out
the
tables
more,
so
we
actually
had
less
inventory
on
the
floor
than
we
normally
do
and
we
also
had
reduced
hours
because
the
saturday
hours
were
only
10
to
2
in
line
with
the
library's
opening
hours.
So
all
of
that
said
we're
pretty
thrilled
with
the
response
we
had
about
350
people
a
day
through
the
doors,
and
we
had
a
great
response
from
the
community.
E
We
had
no
problems
with
people
complying
with
mass
mandates
or
distance
or
anything
else,
and
everybody
was
just
really
thrilled
to
have
the
opportunity
to
come
back,
so
we
are
thrilled
with
those
results.
I
wonder
how
many
more
times
I
can
say
thrilled
our
next
fundraising
event
is
our
december
auction,
which
will
be
online
the
first
weekend
in
december
and
we
are
getting
ready
for
our
2022
sales
sales
calendar,
so
we're
already
marching
forward.
E
A
A
F
All
right,
good
morning,
everybody
it's
good
to
be
here.
First
and
foremost,
I
want
to
acknowledge
and
apologize
for
missing
last
meeting,
because
I
had
day
off
by
one
and
I
found
out
after
the
fact
that
I
had
missed
it
and
I
had
full
intentions
of
being
there.
So
I'm
going
to
give
a
little
bit
of
a
report
that
would
have
been
done
that
month
as
well
at
the
last
meeting,
because
we
also
had
elections
in
september,
and
these
were
interim
elections.
F
Most
of
the
other
positions
were
retained.
They
stayed
in
their
positions,
including
katie
dang,
who
is
our
the
vice
chair
ron
williams,
who
is
our
secretary
and
then
in
filling
my
former
role
as
treasurer.
We
have
elected
doug
ochtemeyer,
who
is
new
mem,
a
new
member
of
our
board
to
serve
as
the
treasurer,
so
that
is
what's
in
place
at
this
time.
With
that
said,
we
will
have
more
elections
in
january.
F
F
We
now
have
still
have
14
on
the
board
that
are
committed
and
serving
and
eager
to
get
things
going
as
well.
So
I
was
thrilled
to
see
that,
and
I
wanted
to
report
that
as
a
actually
a
nice
success
to
have
that
many
committed
directors
on
the
board
that
are
are
still
with
us
and
committed
to
to
what
we're
doing
one
of
the
restructuring.
A
G
Thank
you.
I'm
going
to
be
briefing
this
update
since
I'm
in
other
parts
of
the
agenda.
I
did
want
to
just
say
how
fun
it
was
to
have
that
auditorium.
Sale.
Last
week
we
had
a
line
around
the
block
before
we
opened
with
people
that
were
really
excited
and
that
they
just
had
a
feeling
of
celebration,
and
we
certainly
saw
the
friends
taking
full
advantage
of
our
elevator
going
up
and
down
and
restocking
and
restocking.
G
G
A
G
A
C
We're
looking
at
section
2.0
this
month,
personnel,
so
there's
two
policies
underneath
personnel
and
continuing
education,
we're
not
recommending
any
changes
to
either
of
these
right
now.
Personnel
just
outlines
the
board's
responsibility
with
hiring
and
supervising
and
evaluating
the
director
and
the
other
policy.
2.02
is
on
continuing
education
and
the
board's
commitment
to
having
staff
go
through
professional
development
and
training
as
they
can
does.
Anyone
have
any
questions.
B
A
I
I
F
I
So
the
idea
was,
we
would
select,
we
put
out
a
call
for
artists
and
we
selected
five
artists
or
artist
teams
as
finalists,
and
those
finalists
would
be
commissioned
to
develop
new
library
cards,
which
would
then
be
voted
on
by
the
public
to
narrow
it
down
to
three
and
those
three
would
be
turned
into
brand
new
cards
and
added
to
our
regular
rotation
of
library
cards.
So
each
of
the
finalists
that
was
chosen,
I
was
awarded
500
for
their
completed
design
and
so
for
a
quick
timeline.
I
The
last
time
we
added
a
new
card
was
in
2016.,
so
it's
been
a
while,
and
it
was
this-
the
lovely
giraffe
card,
one
of
the
local
giraffes
at
our
zoo
just
across
the
park,
but
it's
been
a
while.
So
we
felt
like
it
was
time
to
to
get
some
some
fresh
cards
and
we're
really
excited
by
the
idea
of
working
with
local
creators
and
artists
to
do
design.
So
so
this
year
in
june,
we
issued
the
public
call
for
submissions
and
then
the
end
of
july.
I
The
submissions
were
due
and
we
ended
up
with
42
submissions
from
folks
and
there
just
there's
a
lot
of
just
really
amazing
work,
and
so
the
folks
who
submitted
were
asked
to
share
samples
of
their
artwork
their
their
bios
and
information
about
themselves,
so
that
the
design
or
the
committee
which
was
assembled
could
review
those
and
from
from
that
information,
decide
upon
our
final
five
craters
to
make
the
cards.
So
the
review
committee
was
made
up
of
members
of
the
arts
and
history
commission.
I
There
were
also
artists,
local
artists
as
part
of
it,
and
we
had
two
library,
staff,
members,
eliza,
ruby
and
aurora
galloway,
who
are
librarians
and
information
services.
We
chose
our
staff
members
by
lottery.
We
asked
anyone
who
was
interested
and
had
time
to
submit
their
names,
and
then
we
drew
their
names
out
of
a
out
of
a
hat
so
that
we
had
a
everyone
had
an
equal
opportunity
to
participate
and
then
tanya
westinsko
also
represented
the
board
and
the
library
as
part
of
the
the
review
committee.
I
I
The
three
finalists
and
those
designs
will
then
be
made
into
library
cards
to
be
added
in
january
of
2022
and
we're
hoping
to
launch
those
with
a
theme
new
year
new
card
and
to
encourage
folks
to
get
signed
up
for
cards,
and
there
would
possibly
for
people
to
replace
their
old
cards
if
they
would
like
to
get
some
of
the
new
designs.
So
so
I'd
like
to
go
through
and
talk
about
the
creators
a
little
bit
and
share
their
artwork.
I
So
this
is
very
text
heavy.
I
won't
read
all
this.
I
swear,
but
while
I'm
reading
it,
I'm
going
to
show
you
so
this
is
miguel
almeida
and
his
design
is
called
traversing
into
wonder,
and
miguel
is
a
boise
based,
illustrator
and
artist,
working,
both
traditionally
and
digitally.
As
a
first
generation
mexican-american,
his
artwork
explores
the
experience
of
growing
up
as
a
part
of
an
immigrant
family,
the
majority
of
whom
dedicated
their
lives
to
working
agriculture
in
idaho.
I
I
Over
the
years
she
has
created
artwork
for
all
kinds
of
projects,
from
music,
albums,
greeting
cards
and
children's
books
to
children's
rain
boots
and
toy
designs.
She
is
heavily
inspired
by
the
huge
amounts
of
cartoons.
She
watches
the
90s
kid
and
the
illustration
styles
of
the
50s
and
60s,
and
then
our
next
designer
our
next
finalist
has
been
conkle
and
ben,
is
an
illustrator
and
animator
from
idaho
since
earning
his
bfa
in
illustration,
from
boise
state
university,
his
work
has
been
awarded
by
communication,
arts,
american
institution
or
illustration.
I
I
So
this
is
ben's
design
and
then
we
have
meredith
messenger
and
meredith
was
the
only
one
of
our
artists
who
chose
to
go
with
a
vertical
design,
which
is
great.
Our
cards
we
have
in
the
clutch
already
are
both
did
vertically
and
horizontally
oriented
so
and
meredith
as
a
child
loved
watching
animated
movies,
pausing
over
and
over,
on
a
single
frame
until
she
could
recreate
the
image
in
her
sketchbook.
She
never
quit
drawing
painting
and
sketching
building
and
paper
cutting
after
graduating
from
boise
state
university
with
degrees.
I
I
I
The
interesting
thing
about
this
is
that
it's
actually
it
is
paper
cut
out
and
then
photographed
when
I
first
saw
that
their
designs,
I
was
under
the
impression
that
they
were
digitally
rendered,
but
they
are
not
so
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
voting
process.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
voting
is
open
now
and
it
will
run
through
tuesday
november
30th.
I
There's
a
voting
station
at
each
of
our
library
locations
where
people
can
come
in
and
vote
in
person,
we
have
a
ballot,
a
ballot
box.
We
have.
I
voted
stickers,
which
you
can
see
examples
of
here
in
the
image
for
those
who
who
vote,
they
can
take
a
sticker
and
we
also
have
an
online
option
that
folks
can
access
through
the
library's
website
to
vote.
I
I
So
no
one's
favorite
cards
are
going
away,
hopefully,
and
then
lastly,
there's
a
bunch
of
folks
who
are
involved
in
making
this
project
happen.
So
I
wanted
to
call
them
out
specifically
because
we
really
appreciate
all
their
hard
work
and
the
time
that
it
took
to
get
this
off
the
ground.
So,
of
course,
first
of
all,
our
director
jessica
and
the
library
management
team
tanya
for
being
involved
in
the
selection
process,
as
well
as
our
librarians
eliza
and
aurora
jamie
lundergreen,
who
is
our
community
engagement
manager
and
lindsay
dreibergen?
I
Our
colleagues
at
the
city,
department
of
arts
and
history,
carl
leclaire,
and
I
talked
about
this
project
years
ago,
and
it's
taken
a
long
time
to
to
happen,
but
he
was
involved
at
the
start
of
it.
He's
since
left
the
city
for
another
another
position
in
the
arts
and
history
department
in
a
different
city,
but
he
helped
start
it.
I
Katina,
crom
and
jennifer
brybar
at
arts
and
history
has
have
helped
see
it
through
aaron
snethen
did
all
of
our
design
work
for
our
ballots
and
our
posters
and
all
the
things
that
you
see
surrounding
them.
The
cards,
which
has
been
super
helpful
and
then
all
the
artists
who
applied
there
were
some
really
great
tanya
can
attest
to
some
really
great
submissions
from
different
different
artists.
There's
even
one
from
I
can't
remember
how
old
she
was.
I
I
want
to
say
eight
a
young,
a
very
young
person
had
submitted
and
the
arson
history.
Folks,
I
think,
sent
a
special
thank
you
to
her
and
so
is
sort
of
inspired
by
that.
In
addition
to
the
voting
information
and
the
ballots
and
the
the
I
voted
stickers,
we
have
blank
templates
of
our
library
card,
so
kids
or
anyone
can
take
them
and
design
their
own
library
cards,
bring
them
back
and
we'll
hang
them
up
at
the
different
locations
so
and
then.
B
A
No
questions
josh,
but
I
yes,
I
would
agree
with
you.
There
were
a
lot
of
amazing
artists
that
provided
submissions
and
I
distinctly
remember
which
young
lady
that
was
that
had
submitted
it
as
well.
They
actually
had
a
couple
of
younger
younger
community
members
apply
I'm
in
that
process.
It
was
great
to
see
the
turnout
that
we've
received.
G
You
are
going
to
take
us
through
this.
Yes,
I
am,
and
josh
is
going
to
help
me
again
by
showing
some
slides
that
I
have
put
together.
This
is
an
effort
actually
that
some
of
you
will
remember,
because
it
was
kicked
off
initially
by
christine
miller
last
year
and
then
paused
a
little
bit,
obviously
with
koben
and
everything
else.
That
happened
so
for
background
josh.
G
It
was
originally
started
as
a
way
of
sharing
an
integrated
library
system
that
support
system
and
to
share
resources
enabling
library
access
to
residents
in
southern
idaho.
It
was
originally
founded
by
three
members,
so
boise,
caldwell
and
twin
falls,
and
today
it
has
12
members
and
they're,
mostly
located
within
or
near
the
treasure
valley
and
the
boise
public
library
has
served
as
the
host
organization
since
its
founding
and
really
the
thing
that's
important
is
that
when
it
was
originally
founded,
it
was.
G
So
josh,
if
you
could
show
the
next
slide.
So
this
is
the
consortium
members
and
the
I
mentioned
it
has
a
it,
has
three
tiers
of
of
its
membership
model,
but
really
in.
In
reality,
it
has
sort
of
the
career,
libraries
and
the
non-career
libraries.
When
I
looked
at
where
you
know,
there's
listed
three
tiers,
but
only
libraries
in
two
of
those
tiers
currently
and
the
courier
libraries
are
the
ones
that
are
the
closest
cluster
to
each
other.
Emmett
twin
falls,
mountain
home
and
haley
are
not
on
the
career
system.
G
G
So,
while
we're
here
and
what
I
want
to
talk
about
this
and
set
up
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
is
that
the
consortium
agreement
which
these
12
libraries
have
signed
off,
you
know
on
how
they'll
work
together
was
last
approved
in
2016,
and
at
that
time
it
was
approved
for
five
years
it
automatically
renewed
in
2020
for
another
five
years.
At
the
time
there
was
a
real
consensus
this
this
this
agreement
is
outdated
but,
as
I
said,
the
pandemic
really
changed
the
trajectory
of
some
of
those
discussions
right
now.
G
Decisions
are
made
by
all
members
by
consensus.
As
I
said,
there's
these
three
there's
outline
three
levels
of
membership,
the
library
system,
cooperative
borrowing
and
open
access,
but
really
we
only
have
libraries
into
that
cooperative
borrowing
and
the
open
access.
Open
access
is
really
where
those
careers
are
involved.
G
The
members
are
charged
based
on
a
formula:
that's
calculated
using
circulation,
workstations
and
holdings,
and
the
courier
libraries
are
charged
separately
for
that
service,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
do
is
we
pay
attention
to
oh
gosh,
and
I'm
sorry
for
those
of
you
here
with
me.
This
is
really
hard
to
see,
but
we
keep
we
look
at
those
transaction
by
libraries
and
actually
on
the
last
page
of
your
packet
for
your
one.
G
G
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
on
an
annual
basis
with
the
consortium
members
is
look
at
those
usage
rates
and
and
try
to
think
you
know
if
there
are
there's
a
term
for
sort
of
an
excessive
use
and
so
that
payment
that
those
of
you
who've
been
here
through
a
whole
year
on
the
board,
will
know
like
every
year.
We
do
a
payment
for
ada
community
and
we
do
a
payment
for
garden
city
based
on
those
that
that
usage
pattern.
G
B
G
G
B
G
G
So,
as
I
said
when
this
was
last
revised
and
approved
by
members,
you
know
it
was
last
last
reviewed
in
2016.
It
automatically
reviewed
in
2020,
and
there
was
a
widespread
consensus
among
the
directors
that
you
know
the
consortium
provides
a
lot
of
benefit
and
it's
operating
on
an
agreement
that
really
hasn't
been
hasn't,
been
updated
and
so
much
has
changed
in
the
library
of
space
and
in
you
know,
sort
of
the
treasure
valley
as
a
whole
in
terms
of
its
population
and
its
growth.
G
G
Provide
those
collaboratively
there's
also
some
real
challenges
about
consortium.
Members
accessing
timely
information,
we're
the
only
group
that
can
run
reports
that
may
be
useful
for
them
in
terms
of
understanding
their
own
circulation
across
the
consortium
and
they're.
Just
you
know
there
hasn't
been
any
discussion
about
well
what
are
the
best
practices
for
decision
making,
particularly
around
new
technology
or
adding
new
members?
G
E
D
B
G
Yeah,
so
there
was
a
subcommittee
of
consortium
directors
that
that
created
the
rfp
it
was
published
and
then
a
subcommittee
did
a
review
and
made
a
recommendation
that
every
library
director
had
the
opportunity
to
both
provide
input
into
the
rfp
and
then
voted
on
using
that
voted
on
c
dagger.
Solutions
as
arkansas.
G
G
You
know
any
any
revised
agreement
will
need
to
come
to
the
board
to
be
approved,
and
so
they
built
in
an
opportunity
for
board
members
to
see
how
the
assessment
is
going
and
then
provide
input.
They're
requesting
in
february
a
90-minute
focus
group
with
two
board
of
trustee
members
from
each
member
library.
G
And
so
then,
that
will
help
them
with
the
preliminary
findings,
the
value
that's
being
determined
and
then
some
of
those
recommendations
and
they've
built
in
an
iterative
process
with
the
directors
all
accumulating.
With
a
final
report
with
recommendations
for
discussion
of
the
april
links,
directors.
G
Particularly,
this
firm
has
a
lot
of
experience
with
the
digital
resources,
but
I
do.
I
would
really
like
you
know
to
have,
and
you
don't
have
to
decide
now,
but
in
february
of
2020,
we'll
want
to
have
two
board
members
who
are
able
to
participate
in
that
discussion
at
a
minimum.
They
would
need
to
read
the
current
agreement
so
that
they've
got
that
background,
and
then
you
know
have
any
other
questions
then,
and
also
c
dagger
will
send.
G
You
know
they'll
send
an
agenda
for
that
work
or
that
focus
group
as
well
so
you'll
have
you
won't
have
to
go
in
colds.
You
will
absolutely
have
some
background
material,
but
I
do
think
that
I
think
this
would
be
a
I.
I
think
it's
a
good
step
to
making
sure
that
we're
that
stakeholder
engagement
includes
you
know
any
any
part
of
a
library
that
is
invested
in
the
consortium.
A
Well,
that's
a
it's
a
large
part.
I
mean
we
hear
about
it
on
a
frequent
basis
and
so
recognizing
the
fact
that
it's
not
been
reviewed
for
a
significant
amount
of
time
having
bringing
in
a
firm
to
really
guide
that
process,
but
also
allowing
access
trustees
to
select
to
have
two
members
step
up
and
be
a
part.
B
H
G
I
think
what
we've
asked
sea
tiger
to
do
is
really
to
come
up
more
more
with
a
road
map
of
like
you
know
when
you're
approaching
your
you
know,
when
you're,
when
you're
looking
at
your
agreement,
what
are
some
options
that
you
could
have
and
discuss,
and
it
will,
it
will
include
all
of
that.
It
will
definitely
include
technology.
G
I
think
it
will
include
issues
of
staffing,
governance
and-
and
you
know
what
you
know-
they're
going
to
benchmark
with
some
of
our
peers
that
have
a
consortium
similar
to
find
out
like
okay.
What
are
some
of
those
structures?
That
would
be
that
other
library
consortiums
you
might
be
able
to
learn
from,
because
I
think
it'll
be
we.
We
want
it
to
be
of
all
those
different
components,
because
I
think
they
really
do
go
together.
G
I
think
you
know
the
the
you
know
the
example
of
working
in
the
consortium
to
to
you
know
first
purchase
and
then
install
and
promote
the
ida.
App
has
been
very
helpful
in
giving
us
some.
You
know
examples
of
how
we
could
work
together,
but
also
places
where
it
has
been
not
clear,
because
that
some
of
the
you
know
who
who
does
the
promotional
material
and
how
do
we
make
sure
we're
being
efficient
and
not
working
across
purposes.
D
So
currently,
members
or
patrons
get
its
big
benefit.
You
can
kind
of
go
to
any
branch
check
stuff
out.
You
can
get
stuff,
we'll
curry
it
or
wherever
you
want
in
the
stakeholders.
Is
there
any?
How
is
that
you
being
represented
and
we've
got
data
about
who's
using
it,
but
I'm
in
the
stakeholders.
I
didn't
see
any
mention
of
real
library.
Thinking.
G
You
know
that's
also
one
of
those
things
that
it's
really
hard
to.
You
know.
I
don't
know
how
we
would
ask
that
about
a
library
user.
I
mean
they
want,
because
it
was
one
of
the
things
that
we've
really
had
to
do.
A
lot
of
work
on
is
we
see
where
there's
a
pain
point,
because
things
aren't
aligned
and
we
get
feedback
hey?
G
Why
is
the
book
that
I
got?
You
know?
I
went
to
my
local
library,
I
went
you
know
my
library.
I
went
down
the
street.
I
checked
out
a
book.
Why
do
I
have
to
know
that
I
had
I've
had
three
books
on
hold
and
one
of
them
came
from
a
library
with
a
two-week
return
and
one
and
the
other
ones
came
from
the
library
three-week
return
policy.
G
H
G
G
G
G
B
B
B
B
G
A
So
it
almost
sounds
like
with
the
consultant's
help.
It
almost
felt
like
you
for
lack
of
a
better
way
to
say
getting
back
to
some
of
the
to
getting
down
to
a
basic
level
playing
field
before
and
then
they
may
be
able
to
guide.
Also,
I'm
assuming
to
phil's
question
too
about
how
do
you
reach
the
public
or
is
a
public
engagement?
I
think
that
that
can
come
from
the
consultant,
because
it
sounds
like
you
kind
of
have
to
get
back
to
the
basics
right.
G
And
I
think
this
is
really.
This
is
an
exercise
in
how
how
do
we
have
an
efficient
back
of
the
office
that
shows
up
seamless
to
our
users,
and
you
know
that
process
of
you
know
if
there's
a
recommendation
that
comes
out
of
it,
we
should
have
user
input.
I
think
it
would
be
much
better
scoped
once
understanding
you
know,
we've
got
some
real
challenges
that
staff
have
identified
and
real
opportunities
that
staff
have
identified
as
well.
C
C
J
A
B
A
G
Provide
you
some
context
on
the
work
that
really
has
been
led
by
her
office
and
then
also
kelly
will
speak
specifically
to
the
leases
that
are
in
front
of
you.
But
I
think
this
is
a,
I
think,
a
an
effort
that
has
been
long
long
requested
and
it's
been
also
really
challenging,
and
I
think
chloe
has
done
a
beautiful
job,
really
working
with
local,
nonprofits
and
and
really
listening
to
their
needs
and
concerns.
G
K
The
scope
in
terms
of
all
of
these
agreements
varied
in
terms
of
length
what
the
nonprofit
was
contributing,
monetarily
as
well
as
sort
of
in
kind
and
then
as
well
as
the
city
obligation,
so
what
we
were
providing
in
terms
of
maintenance
and
support
utilities,
etc.
So
some
of
these
fall
into
that
dollar
a
year
category
others
are
paying.
You
know,
market
rent,
some
are
requiring
the
non-profit
to
cover
all
of
the
utility
and
or
maintenance,
and
in
some
cases
the
city
is
covering
all
of
those
operating
costs.
K
We
want
to
be
able
to
maximize
the
land
holdings
of
the
city
and
the
facilities
that
we
have,
and
we
also
want
to
be
able
to
support
entities
in
our
community
who
are
providing
services
that
the
city
isn't
necessarily
able
to
provide
but
supports
in
terms
of
cultural
and
educational
benefits,
and
then,
of
course,
on
the
other
side.
Non-Profits
are
benefiting
from
that
city
space
that
reduced
rent,
and
I
think
that
kind
of
connection
with
the
city
and
our
and
our
residents.
K
So
how?
However,
there
it's
also
an
impact
on
city
resources,
so
the
inconsistency
means
that
all
of
these
leases
live
in
various
different
departments.
People
are
tracking
them,
they're
being
negotiated
at
different
timeline
timelines,
and
you
know,
with
kind
of
different
intentions
in
mind
and
that's
taking
up
staff
resources
and
is
hard
to
track.
K
We
are
also
experiencing
instances
across
these
16
facilities,
where
we
know
there's
going
to
be
major
maintenance,
that's
coming
up
and
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
recoup
definitely
not
a
hundred
percent,
but
at
least
some
costs
related
so
that
we
can
keep
these
facilities
in
top
condition
and
accessible
to
the
public.
And
then
we
also
receive
questions
from
other
non-profits
that
the
city
is
is
not
necessarily
supporting
in
terms
of
these
leases
about
why
the
city
is
choosing
to
support
certain
nonprofits
over
others.
K
So
with
that
in
mind,
we
put
together
a
policy
that
would
bring
the
leases
into
alignment
recoup
some
of
the
cost
to
upkeep
the
facilities
and
attempt
to
create
some
type
of
equitable
metric
for
supporting
these
non-profit.
So
you
know
ideally,
decisions
about
which
non-profits
the
city
supports
would
be
made
based
on
their
contribution
to
the
community
and
alignment
with
city
goals
in
the
best
practice
research
that
we
conducted,
we
found
that
cities
across
the
country
are
dealing
with
this
in
very
different
ways.
For
example,
some
cities
are
charging.
K
You
know
market
rate
by
square
foot,
some
do
an
rfp
process,
a
request
for
proposals
of
who
would
like
to
use
the
space.
Others
charge
a
percentage
of
the
profits
of
the
non-profit
and
then
some
do
that
equivalent
of
the
dollar
per
year.
So,
overall,
what
we
found
is
this
is
something
that
cities
are
grappling
with
across
the
board.
There
is
no
one-size-fits-all
approach,
and
so
we
really
dug
into
to
figure
out
what
feel
what
feels
like
a
boise,
authentic
approach
that
is
supportive
of
our
non-profits
and
feels
fair.
K
The
ultimate
goal
is
to
have
us
a
standard
that
would
also
allow
for
enough
flexibility
so
that
decisions
can
be
made
in
the
best
interests
of
the
community
per
the
non-profits,
because
I
think
we
all
know
that
not
all
nonprofits
are
created.
Equally,
everyone
has
a
different
combination
of
resources
and
goals,
but
we
do
think
there
are
four
main
components
that
would
benefit
from
the
alignment:
the
standard
method
for
establishing
rent.
K
What
we
did,
then
we
went
to
the
council
and
they
said
please
contact
every
non-profit
and
and
float
the
policy
by
them
and
receive
feedback.
So
we
contacted
each
non-profit.
We
conducted
in-person
meetings
with
each
of
those
non-profits
and
we
received
overwhelmingly
positive
feedback
and
in
many
instances
organizations
had
been
expecting
an
adjustment
or
a
change
to
their
agreement
for
some
time.
So
folks
were
welcoming
the
conversation
and,
I
think,
expecting
an
adjustment
in
many
cases.
K
In
those
cases
we
came
across
in
more
detail,
different
non-profits
who
who
are
operating
as
ground
lease,
so
they
own
the
facility
and
the
city
owns
the
land
and
then,
of
course,
in
the
case
of
step
ahead
and
learning
lab
with
the
library
that
is,
a
non-profit
those
nonprofits
live
inside
on
a
city
building.
So
those
are
special
as
well.
H
K
K
D
D
K
Yeah
good
question:
we
went
round
and
round
about
the
about
the
least
length
and
I'm
actually
gonna
stop
showing
my
screen.
If
that's
okay,
and
so
I
can
see
all
of
you
what
when
we
originally
started,
we
wanted
to
do
a
seven
year
and
I
would
like
to
emphasize
that
we
that
it's
up
to
so
no
more
than
and
then
within
each
conversation
in
each
negotiation
based
on
what
works
for
both
parties,
it
could
be
less
than
than
ten
or
seven
years.
K
K
That
are,
you
know,
either
investing
in
those
buildings
and
know
that
they
want
to
stay
in
the
buildings
for
an
extra
long
time
and
10
years
actually
isn't
long
enough
for
them,
and
so
we
were
trying
to
find
something
that
felt
like
it
wasn't
too
long,
but
that
it
afforded
a
small
enough
or
enough
time
enough
length
of
time
to
go
by
that
each
entity
could
sort
of
renegotiate
if
we
need
to
increase
or
adjust
the
cost
or
adjust
the
agreement.
That
would
if
that
would
afford
enough
time.
K
K
B
L
I
want
I
wrote
down
a
couple
of
points
that
I'd
like
to
just
start
with
in
response
to
phil's
questions,
because
I
I
do
have
there's
like
four
pertinent
points.
Just
in
these
two
leases
that
I
wanted
to
get
out
before.
I
forget.
The
both
leases
have
a
termination
for
convenience
clause
so
that,
if
something
does
change,
we
can
exit
the
lease
upon
30
days
notice.
L
So
even
though
we
could
terminate
with
30
days
notice,
the
expectation
is
that
they've
been
there
that
long
and
and
they'll
probably
continue
to
be
there.
But
you
never
know
with
a
new
council
or
a
new
mayor.
You
never
know
what
could
potentially
happen.
So
we
do
have
that
termination
for
convenience
language
or
you
know,
if
there's
a
change
in
the
main
library
site
or
any
unforeseen
instance,
then
we
can
exercise
that
clause
and
terminate
early
with
respect
to
step
ahead.
L
L
B
C
Curious
to
hear
from
maybe
jessica
or
someone
with
that,
25
being
such
a
substantial
discount,
I
think
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
if
I
understood
this
benefit
to
the
library
and
how
it's
consistent
with
the
library's
mission
since
it's
the
use
of
the
library
facilities.
I
know
somebody
could
speak
to
that.
H
G
G
Some
were
paying
100
a
year,
some
were
paying,
you
know,
actual
market
rate,
and
so
that
inconsistency,
I
think
people
recognized
that
that
that
didn't
sit
right,
and
so
you
know
doing
the
calculation
literally
but
square
foot.
You
know
sitting
and
saying
okay,
what
is
your
footprint
in
here
and
what
are
our
costs
so
being
really
transparent
about
you
know,
you'll
see
one
is
a
sublease
and
one
is
a
lease.
G
You
know
the
lease
is
in
a
building
that
we
own
and
so
we're
not
paying
rent
on
it
so
that
you
know
that
went
into
the
calculation.
The
you
know.
Some
of
these
those
costs
are
are
higher
and
chloe's
team
did
do
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
on.
When
are
we
going
to
put
this
in
place
and
giving
those
organizations
enough
time
to
understand
what
that,
in
both
cases,
what
that
increase
will
be
because
they
wanted?
You
know
they
think,
as.
G
G
K
No
thank
you
jessica.
I
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
we
have
already
been
significantly
subsidizing
most
of
these
entities
so
to
jessica's
point.
We
were
really
sensitive
about
knowing
that
we
were
going
to
have
to
increase
or
institute
a
cost
monthly
cost
in
in
some
cases.
So
in
the
library's
case,
that
money
is
going
right
back
into
the
operations
of
the
library,
kelly
might
have
a
and
yeah.
C
So
I
appreciate
and
understand
that-
and
maybe
this
will
be
more
directed
to
kelly,
but
that
75
to
me
is
still
a
subsidy
and
a
use
of
public
resources
for
technically
a
private
party.
So
I
understand
it's
a
non-profit,
but
I
guess
what
I
want
to
understand
and
appreciate
before
I
approve
is
like:
how
are
we
demonstrating
that
that
75
benefit
is
appropriate
use
of
the
public
resources?
So
I
can
totally
understand
you
know.
C
I
think
I
can
see
how
learning
lab
benefits
the
community
and
the
city
and
the
library,
but
I'm
just
guessing
to
kind
of
get
that
in
the
record
as
part
of
our
approval,
that
that
is
consistent
with
the
public
resource
and
the
mission
of
the
library
to
have
those
spaces
and
be
subsidizing
those
to
the
tune
of
that
75
percent.
No
great
question.
L
So
you
know
literacy
is
easy
because
you
know
reading
books.
That
kind
of
thing
when
you
look
at
step
ahead,
their
whole
mission
is
for
academic
counseling
and
I
believe,
in
a
large
part,
to
help
students
go
to
the
next
level
of
education.
I
think
that
they
help
people
with
like
college
applications
and
things
like
that
and
just
help
with
with
the
academic
piece
of
just
counseling
helping
with
grades.
L
I
believe,
but
I
don't
want
to
speak
too
far
onto
that,
because
I
don't
I
don't
know
100
of
I
don't
know
their
mission
either,
but
both
of
these
leases
are
tailored
to
permitted
uses.
They
can't
use
this
space
for
any
reason
other
than
what
is
stated
here,
which
is
operation
of
the
community
literacy,
literacy
center
for
learning
lab,
and
then
the
academic,
counseling
and
and
incidental
uses
related
to
that.
L
They
also
have
to
maintain
their
non-profit
status
and
provide
proof
of
that
on
an
annual
basis,
and
we
can
also
check
that
too
our
independently.
But
if
they
fail
to
do
that,
then
this
or
if
they
remain
segments,
not
the
right
word
in
the
least.
We
call
it
abandonment
if
they
fail
to
use
the
space
accordingly
per
those
uses.
Then
this
lease
ends.
It's
automatically
gonna
end.
L
So
I
I
think
that
it's
important
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
well
as
to
compare
it
to
some
of
the
other
non-profits
that
we
subsidize
that
wouldn't
be
appropriate
for
the
library
just
not
because
there's
not
learning
involved,
but
because
it's
not
the
same
kind
of
that.
We
that
are
like
these
leases,
like,
for
instance,
right
across
the
street,
the
boise
art
museum
is
one
gosh
there's
so
many
we
have
like
girl
scouts.
C
J
So,
when
they're
accessing
these
services,
they
are
not
able
to
pay
for
these
services.
It
is
often
is
a
free
service
that
is
provided
to
learn
english,
to
be
able
to
acclimate
to
idaho,
to
be
able
to
get
jobs,
build
a
resume
you
know,
and
for
those
that
want
to
go
on
to
post,
secondary
or
further
their
education
and
training.
Just
the
the
wealth
of
knowledge
that
these
nonprofits
can
help
assist
are
our
most
vulnerable
citizens
and
they
are
boise.
You
know
boise
citizens,
and
so
I
think
it's
the
financial
aspect
of
it.
J
H
B
L
Think
most
of
it
came
out.
The
only
thing
that
I
would
point
out,
in
addition
is
that
in
both
of
these
leases,
we
are
actually
paying
for
the
utilities
just
because
of
the
way
that
or
the
fact
that
these
non-profits
are
situated
inside
city
like
a
an
operating
city
building,
so
there
there
is
that
additional
point
for
these
two.
L
That
is
a
deviation
from
some
of
the
other
ones
that
we've
seen
some
of
the
other
non-profit
leases
that
are
in
progress
where
the
nonprofits
are
in
buildings,
where
they
have
exclusive
use
and
they
are
going
to
set
up
their
own
wi-fi
and
things
like
that
sewer
things
like
of
that
nature.
But
that's
really
the
only
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
point
out.
Unless
anybody
has
any
any
questions.
In
addition
to
those
two
that
we
already
had.
A
So,
just
for
a
clarification
kelly
on
the
utilities,
as
I
was
reading
through
that
prayer,
it
is
because
it's
just
into
the
building,
so
it's
embedded
in
the
building.
You
can't
really
pull
it
out
and
separate
it
because
of
how
they
are
situated
within
the
structures.
Is
that
correct
I've
seen
chloe?
Not
yes,.
K
It
wouldn't
we
had
a
really
nice
starting
point
to
base
a
formula
off
of,
and
so
I
believe,
kelly
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
that
we
did
account
for
a
small
amount
of
the
utilities
in
into
the
the
formula
for
that
rent.
So
it's
not
a
hundred
percent,
like
kelly,
said
where
we're
doing
with
others,
but
it
it
has
been
incorporated
on
into
us.
A
All
right,
fellow
trustees,
any
additional
questions
on
both
of
those
places.
Well,
we've
got
our
experts
here.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chloe
and
kelly
for
allowing
us
and
nikki
and
sonia
shaw.
We
were
inside
as
well
as
though
okay,
so
it
looks
like
the
next
up
is
to
look
like
we'll
take
these
separately,
so
learning
lab
leaves.
This
is
an
action
item
so
looking
to
see,
if
I
have
a
motion
on
the
table
to
approve,
revise
or
reject.
A
A
A
Thank
you
chloe
as
well.
All
right
next
up
is
selection
of
trustee
to
review
vouchers,
which
is
me
for
all
me
around.
So
I
can
make
sure
I
get
those
completed
and
then
the
next
selection
of
our
meeting
date
is
wednesday
december
8th
and
I
will
be
in
attendance.
Do
we
have
anyone
that
will
be
out
of
unable
to
attend
on
december,
8th
we're
going
to
take
that,
as
we
will
all
be
here
for
december
all
right.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
our
meeting.