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A
B
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E
Yes,
madam
mayor
council
members,
thank
you
for
having
us
here
today
we're
here
to
talk
about
emerging
constituents
and
water
ties
into
our
utility
planning
work,
but
we're
here
today
and
kind
of
the
timing
of
it
as
a
response
to
questions
from
council
president
clegg
and
council
member
sanchez,
where,
if
there
were
anything
that
anything
that
stood
out
or
anything
that
we
needed
to
be
aware
of.
As
far
as
yellow
flags
and
the
early
analysis
and
kind
of
initial
results
that
we've
seen,
we
don't
have
anything
to
be
that
are
raising
those
yellow
flags.
E
So
when
we
talk
about
emerging
constituents,
we're
talking
about
a
variety
of
chemicals,
pharmaceuticals
and
personal
care
products
like
soaps
or
shampoos,
herbicides
and
pesticides
that
we
may
use
in
our
yards
or
things
like
caffeine
in
our
coffee
or
sucralose
in
our
diet,
coke.
Those
are
all
kind
of
a
variety
of
things
that
show
up
or
we
talk
about
as
emerging
constituents
and
most
waters
contain
some
number
of
and
some
quantity
of
emerging
constituents.
So
that's
a
really
important
baseline
and
they
show
up
in
the
environment
in
a
variety
of
ways.
E
So
they
could
be
through
that
direct
application
of
something
like
a
pesticide
or
an
herbicide,
and
then
it
runs
off
into
the
water
system
or
often
what
we're
talking
about
in
water
renewal
is
indirectly.
After
we
have
our
cup
of
coffee
in
the
morning
or
take
our
prescription
medicines,
those
are
consumed
by
people,
and
then
they
come
to
us
through
the
water
renewal
system.
And
then
some
chemicals
are
also
they
move
through
the
the
environment
through
atmospheric
transfer.
E
So
again,
to
kind
of
lead
with
the
punch
line
we
have
sampled
in
six
different
locations
over
the
course
of
two
different
sampling
events
and
I'll
talk
through
those
details.
But
what
we
found
is
that
there
were
emerging
constituents
measured
in
each
of
those
different
water
bodies,
but
for
the
emerging
constituents
that
have
a
health
screening
level,
so
a
comparison
that
we
can
can
give
to
that.
Like
the
amount
of
caffeine
you
might
consume
in
a
day
and
there's
a
comparison
to
that.
E
F
Adamer
haley
quick
question
about
that
and,
if
you're
going
to
cover
it
later,
you
can
save
it
till
then
just
wondering
what
the
concentration
levels
were
above
and
below
the
plants
and
whether
we
noticed
any
noticeable
measurable
difference.
E
Madam
mayor
council,
president,
I
don't
know
I
do
have
that
data.
I
did
not
put
those
specifics
in
this
presentation,
so
we
did
see
some
constituents
that
increased
upstream
to
downstream
that'll
really
be
part
of
the
the
next
analysis
to
say.
Okay,
what
does
that
mean?
But
none
of
it
was,
I
guess,
out
of
the
ordinary,
so
we
can
bring
that
back
in
the
kind
of
further
analysis
as
well.
Thank
you
so
thought
you.
E
This
has
come
up
in
a
variety
of
conversations,
but
wanted
to
just
touch
on
a
couple
of
our
existing
programs
that
relate
to
water
quality
in
the
water
environment,
so
the
first
being
storm
water.
Why
this
is
important
is
we
might
see
things
like
oil
and
grease,
or
those
herbicides
and
pesticides,
and
fertilizer
or
micro
plastics
show
up
in
the
water
environment
in
the
river
through
storm
water,
so
those
are
typically
not
treated.
E
It's
a
direct
discharge
into
the
river
and
an
area
of
focus
for
for
pollution
in
the
boise
river,
but
some
of
the
things
we're
doing
is:
we've
had
a
long
time
on-site
retention
policy
for
storm
water.
We
are
shifting
towards
or
looking
at
green
stormwater
infrastructure
and
how
we
can
disconnect
those
pipe
systems
from
the
river.
E
Those
should
not
be
thrown
in
the
trash
and
they
should
not
be
dumped
down
the
toilet.
And
so
we
have
a
program
set
up
to
be
able
to
divert
those
from
both
of
those
systems,
and
we
are
seeing
an
increased
number
of
households
that
use
those
and
an
increased
number
of
pounds
diverted
to
those
programs.
E
G
Thanks
tj,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
That
sounds
awesome.
I
love
that.
Are
we
providing
information
about
these
options
in
multiple
languages.
E
Madam
mayor
council,
member,
I'm
not
sure
off
the
top
of
my
head,
certainly
something
that
we
will
add
to
our
to-do
list.
If
we're
not
for
all
of
them.
We
also
connect
with
our
new
residents
for
our
move-in
and
move
out
and
make
sure
they
have
that
information
as
well,
but
certainly
having
them
in
another
language,
would
be
appropriate.
G
A
And
madam
mayor,
just
a
few
quick
questions,
the
stormwater
I
I've
been
hearing
ads
on
the
radio
when,
during
commercials
listening
to
cnn,
I
hear
protect
our
storm
waters.
You
wouldn't
sweep
anything
in
them.
Is
that
us
running
those
who's?
Do
you
know
who's
running
those
ads.
E
Madam
mayor
council,
member,
the
one
there's
some
pet
waste
ones
right
now
locally
that
we're
we're
running.
So
that's
part
of
partners
for
clean
water
where
we're
one
of
the
agencies
as
a
part
of
that.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
specifically
the
same.
But
yes,
that's
a
big
piece
of
what
we
try
to
do
is
take
a
component
of
what
goes
into
the
stormwater.
That's
a
concern
and
really
try
to
to
make
that
something
folks
can
connect
to.
A
So
it's
team
effort,
thank
you
and,
and
then
two
other
quick
questions,
probably
easy
ones,
the
the
ones
where
you
put
paint
cans
and
you
you
take
them
and
have
them
disposed
of
appropriately.
When
they're,
when
the
cans
empty
you,
you
can
still
throw
it
in
the
trash,
not.
A
Then
last
question
on
the
pharmaceuticals:
does
it?
Is
it
only
collection
of
the
actual
pills,
medicines
or
because
I
have
a
dog
that
has
diabetes
and
I
collect
quite
a
few
of
the
needles
and
collect
them
in
the
sharpie
container?
And
when
I
first
went
to
dispose
of
them,
I
couldn't
find
a
pharmaceutical
place
to
take
them.
Finally,
a
fire
station
did
out
of
the
sweetness
of
their
heart,
but
what's
the
best
way
to
dispose
of
those.
E
Not
a
mere
council
member,
the
sharps,
if
they're
in
either
sharps
container
or
in
a
sturdy
jug
like
a
detergent
jug,
those
ones
sealed,
can
go
into
the
trash.
G
Madam
mayor,
just
to
follow
up
on
the
issue
that
council
member
thompson
brought
up,
I
don't
know
if
my
other
council
members
have
been
contacted
by
folks
who
want
to
provide
a
more
an
easier
location,
easier
options
for
people
to
get
to
dispose
of
those
sharps
have
have
you
been
contact?
Has
public
works
been
contacted?
Are
all
about
that.
E
F
Vladimir,
so
haley
the
the
prescription
give
back
program
right
now.
If
I
look
on
the
state
side,
it
only
lists
a
couple
of
pharmacies
and
they're
both
related
to
hospitals
and
others
are
other
police
departments.
Those
kinds
of
things
has
there.
E
Madam
mayor
council
president,
not
yet,
but
it's
interesting
in
going
through
this-
the
importance
of
that
and
also
the
the
messaging
that
pharmacists
could
also
serve
as
a
surrogate
messenger
for
us
and
and
share
the
information
about
how
to
dispose
of
them.
So
there
are
a
couple:
one
24-hour
location
is
a
walgreens
on
fairview
and
then
I
think
boise
state
has
a
location
as
well,
but
it
is
prohibitive
from
a
location
standpoint
right
now
and
certainly
an
opportunity
for
expansion.
F
E
I
wanted
to
talk
one
success
story
about
pre-treatment,
something
that
we
can
hopefully
relate
to
in
2012
in
our
mpdes
discharge
permit
we
received
mercury
limits,
very
low
mercury
limits,
and
so,
through
our
pre-treatment
program,
we
worked
with
the
idaho
dental
association
to
implement
what
our
mandatory
best
management
practices
for
all
dentists
that
are
in
our
service
area.
So
they
have
to
provide
dental
amalgam,
the
mercury
amalgam
separators
so
that
mercury
doesn't
come
into
our
system.
E
They
have
there's
mandatory
reporting
back
to
us
and
through
that
process,
we've
seen
a
50
reduction
in
the
influent
mercury
to
our
our
stem,
and
so
this
is
really
a
tool
that
we
have,
and
I
equate
it
to
something
like
energy
efficiency
or
water
conservation.
This
is
our
efficiency
program
for
these
things.
We
don't
want
any
of
this
to
come
to
our
system
or
we
know
it's
going
to,
but
how
we
can
reduce.
E
It
is
really
important
and
pre-treatment
is
a
substantial
tool
for
that
and
the
graphic
shows
one
of
our
household
hazardous
waste
brochures
that
we
have
to
talk
about.
The
importance
then
also
related
to
mercury
of
things
like
light
bulbs
or
thermometers
that
should
not
be
thrown
away
and
should
be
properly
disposed
of
and
just
nationally.
This.
This
topic
is
not
something
that
we're
only
talking
about
here.
E
E
So
just
wanted
to
talk
through
the
public
works
sampling
plan
and
why
we
did
this
with
the
real
anchoring
of
having
data
that
was
ours.
It
was
relevant
here
locally
to
boise
and
that
we
could
use
this
sound
science
and
data
to
inform
decisions
moving
forward
so
trying
to
answer
some
questions
like
which
emerging
constituents
are
we
finding
in
what
water
bodies
what
levels
and
then
do
those
levels
kind
of
what
risks
do
they
pose?
Are
there
any
concerns
here
in
boise?
E
I
just
want
to
stop
and
point
out
the
picture,
real
quick
of
the
people
that
it
takes
to
do
this.
You
know
this
is
our
staff
in
pre-treatment,
in
sampling
and
monitoring
and
at
the
laboratory,
and
for
them
each
of
these
three-day
sampling
because
of
the
very
low
levels
of
emerging
constituents.
They
don't
drink
coffee,
they
don't
shower
for
a
few
days
beforehand.
E
E
We
sampled
three
different
days
each
time
so
in
may
on
the
boise
river.
We'll
have
three
data
points
for
upstream
of
flanders
street,
so
trying
to
start
to
really
build
that
that
data
set
and
then
for
each
of
those
locations
and
points
in
time.
We
analyze
308
different
constituents
so
to
kind
of
frame
the
amount
of
data
that
we're
building
here
and
where
we
did.
E
This
was
two
locations
on
the
river
upstream
and
downstream
of
lander
street,
an
irrigation
canal
and
an
irrigation
drain,
and
then
the
influent
and
effluent
of
lander
street
and
a
groundwater
source
as
well,
so
getting
a
variety
of
water
bodies,
a
variety
of
sources
and
as
expected,
we
did
see
emerging
constituents
in
each
of
those
six
locations
in
the
sampling
events.
So
we
are
seeing
emerging
constituents,
but
as
a
reminder
and
kind
of
tied
back
to
that
health
screening
level.
E
E
I'll
share
some
data,
comparing
our
results
to
some
other
utilities
and
we
are
achieving.
I
did
not
necessarily
put
the
removal
rates
in
this
presentation
just
for
the
level
of
detail
and
time,
but
we
are
seeing
some
removal
of
constituents
through
our
process
and
in
the
future
as
we
shift
to
recycled
water.
Potentially,
we
would
see
additional
treatment
steps,
we
would
add
filtration
and
we
would
anticipate
even
seeing
further
removal,
but
certainly
there's
further
data
collection
and
analysis.
That's
required
on
this
data.
F
Madam
mayor
haley,
it
doesn't
look
like
you
sampled,
any
of
the
potable
water
in
the
valley,
given
that
it
is
upstream
in
the
river
and
that
some
of
our
water
is
surface.
It
would
make
sense
that
it
probably
is
there.
Is
that
something
we're
planning
to
do
in
the
next
stage.
E
Madam
mayor
council
president,
as
far
as
us
sampling
it
or
working
with
suez
on
their
sampling,
I
do
think
that
is
something
that
we
want
to
consider.
They
have
done
some
initial
sampling
specifically
for
pfas
and
that's
something
that
once
we
do
have
those
results.
That
is
something
we
can
share.
I
think
as
well,
but
certainly
they
through
the
drinking
water
rules
have
a
number
of
constituents
that
they
already
sample
for
as
their
requirements,
and
so
that's
something
that
they
have
as
well.
E
Thank
you,
so
there's
a
lot
on
this
slide
and
I'll
try
to
simplify
what
we're
looking
at,
but
the
results
here.
This
is
of
the
lander
street
effluent,
comparing
us
to
other
other
utilities
that
have
a
similar
level
of
treatment
so
across
the
bottom.
We're
showing
the
variety
of
constituents
that
were
measured
across
the
y-axis
here
is
the
concentration
and
we
are
represented
by
the
bars
across
here
so
and
then
the
other
utility
in
comparison
are
the
dots
and
ultimately,
in
in
the
quick
scan
of
this,
we
are
at
or
below
concentrations
for
comparable
utilities.
E
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
indicator.
It's
at
least
one
data
point
for
us
to
connect
to
again.
When
I
look
at
this,
I
see
one
that
stands
out
this
four
non-phenol,
which
is
a
lubricant
and
it's
something
that
is
an
interesting
one
there,
where
we
are
notably
higher
than
others
and
it's
an
area
where
we'll
further
dig
into
that
to
try
to
understand.
Why
is
that
the
case?
What
is
that?
What
could
be
a
source,
and
is
that
an
area
that
we
need
to
do
further
upstream
work?
E
And
then,
of
course,
we
wanted
to
talk
about
pfast
today.
So
these
are
the
per
and
poly
floral
alkyl
substances
that
are
in
a
range
of
things
like
firefighting,
foam
and
fast
food
containers,
microwave
popcorn
and
waterproof
jackets.
It's
really
they're
everywhere,
so
we
tested
for
18
different
pfas
constituents,
and
this
graphic
here
is
representing
the
influent
and
effluent
of
lander
street
and
so
of
those
18.
11
of
them
came
back
non-detect.
We
were
not
able
to
measure
a
quantity
in
the
water.
E
That's
that's
good
news
and
for
the
the
six
that
I'm
showing
here
where
the
blue
bar
is
the
influence.
The
green
bar
is
the
effluent,
and
I'm
comparing
here
the
kind
of
one
regulatory
marker
that
we
have
is
the
epa
drinking
water
health
advisory
level.
So
this
is
a
health
advisory
level
set
by
epa
based
on
lifetime
exposure
to
pfas
for
people,
including
people
in
sensitive
populations,
and
so
that's
set
at
70,
nanograms
per
liter
or
70
parts
per
trillion
for
pfas
plus
pfoa.
So
again,
this
is
drinking
water.
E
The
assumption
that
we're
drinking
a
certain
amount
of
water
every
day
the
effluent
from
lander
street
is
coming
in
at
less
than
10
parts
per
trillion
as
a
comparison
to
that
level.
So
this
is
this
is
good
news.
It
is.
It
is
not
perfect,
I
think,
in
the
realm
of
getting
our
first
round
of
data.
This
is
very
good
news
in
what
we're
seeing
and
something,
certainly
that
will
continue
to
add
to
this
data
set
moving
forward.
E
So
just
a
couple
of
more
things
kind
of
next
steps.
This
really
is
the
first
of
a
conversation
and
not
the
last
we'll
continue
with
community
education,
and
that
can
be
you
know,
broad
to
our
general
public
or
really
targeted
to
areas
that
that
we
know
are
potentially
sending
us
items
and
then
building
on
our
pre-treatment
program.
We
anticipate
building
a
mandatory
best,
managed
best
management
practice
for
pfas
as
well,
because
we
know
that
that
is
an
area
of
concern
and
we
want
to
be
be
doing
that.
G
Madam
mayor,
thank
you
haley.
I
have
to
admit
my.
G
G
G
All
of
this
has
real
world
consequences,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
recognize
that
that
that
the
work
that
public
works
does
in
ensuring
that
we
have
safety
in
our
community.
G
There
are
people's
lives
attached
to
that
people
who
contribute
at
a
high
level
to
our
community,
and
so
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
rest
of
the
staff
at
public
works
who
basically
is
doing
life-saving
work.
Thank
you.
D
Thanks,
madam
mayor,
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
haley
and
thank
you,
council
member
sanchez,
for
putting
that
context
into
place
haley.
I
know
you
said
that
you
tested
one
of
the
canal
areas
since
we've
been
getting
questions
primarily
about
the
farmers
union
canal.
Would
this
represent
similar
similar
to
what
people
have
concerns
about
in
that
area
or
other
canals,
or
is
this
a
very
different
or
different
canal
that
would
be
have
different
testing
results
from
the
farmers
union.
E
Madam
mayor
councilmember
great
question,
I
think
a
little
bit
of
both
so
that's
when
I
I
characterized
a
canal
and
a
a
ditch
or
a
drain.
I
guess
that
there
was
to
characterize
two
different
areas,
so
in
the
canal,
certainly
the
drain
being
an
area
that
is
still
used
for
irrigation,
but
is
also
collecting
a
lot
of
that
agricultural
runoff
in
the
process.
D
And
madam
mayor
just
a
follow-up
question
to
that
sure
yeah
thank
you
haley
and
then
I
guess
one
more
question
would
be:
if
we're
testing
at
one
spot
in
the
canal,
do
we
have
the
jurisdiction
to
test
in
a
much
further
down
location
like
if
we're
testing
you
know,
right
as
it
comes
out
of
the
river
or
right
as
it
comes
out
of
the
lander
street
facility
versus
testing
out
an
eagle?
Can
we
tell
that
there's
even
more
emerging
constituents?
E
Madam
mayor
council,
member
great
question,
I
would
say
we
would
probably
want
to
do
that
with
some
level
of
partnership
or
participation
with
any
canal
that
we
were
testing
in,
but
I
think
based
on
not
just
our
data
but
watershed
data.
In
other
places,
we
would
expect
to
see
increases
in
concentrations
as
we
move
down
that
canal
system.
D
Yeah,
my
curiosity,
there
is
just
that
when
we
get
these
emails
and
these
concerns
from
people
who
potentially
live
out
an
eagle
or
live
out
in
nampa-
and
you
know
what's
happening
between
you
know
the
you
know
the
facility
where
we're
cleaning
the
water
versus
you
know
all
the
way
to
when
it
gets
to
there
and
if
their
concerns
actually
are
have
a
lot
more
to
do
with
you
know,
potentially
how
people
are
using
the
land
between
those
two
areas.
So
that's
the
reasoning
for
that
question,
but
thank
you
for
for
your
answers.
There.
H
Thank
you,
hi
haley.
Did
you
find
any
concerning
levels
of
pollution
in
any
of
the
studies
that
you
did
or
was
everything
kind
of
under
that
epa
threshold?.
E
Madam
mayor
council,
member
right
now
everything
was
under
the
health
advisory
levels.
The
pfas
is
the
only
one
that
we
have
that
that
health
advisory
level
from
epa,
the
health
kind
of
targets
or
standards
compared
to
a
daily
intake
of
some
similar
component.
We
were
less
than
all
of
those.
I
do
think
there
are
a
couple
that
will
want
to
evaluate
further,
as
we
get
the
next
rounds
of
data
back,
that
we
are
seeing
different
upstream
from
downstream
in
the
river
and
just
understanding
kind
of
what
those
are.
H
F
Madam
mayor
go
ahead:
thanks
haley,
you
didn't
mention
whether
or
not
we've
been
begun
reviewing
our
discharge
permits,
but
wonder
if
that's
going
to
be
part
of
what
we'll
do
to
see.
If
we
can
identify
those
users
where
we
might
do
some
of
those
upstream
intercepts
on
the
influent.
E
Madam
mayor
council
president,
so
specifically
to
pre-treatment
yeah,
so
we
we
have
started
kind
of
on
our
own,
maybe
a
desktop
exercise
of.
Where
do
we
want
to
start
and
what
does
that
look
like,
but
building
that
best
management
practice
or
the
program
around?
That
will
involve
some
of
that
additional
sampling
at
those
targeted
locations
and
and
that's
something
that
we
can
certainly
learn
from
other
areas
and
their
pre-treatment
programs
that
have
been
doing
this
for
the
last
year
or
so
so.
We
have
not
started
that
yet.
F
And
then
a
follow-up
to
that
as
going
forward
as
new
industrial
users
and
other
users
come
on
board,
will
we
be
changing
the
way
that
we
look
at
our
contracts
with
them,
so
that
we'll
know
going
in
what
kinds
of
potential
pre-treatment
we'd
want
to
introduce.
E
Madam
mayor
council,
president,
yes
I
today,
I
don't
know
that
I
can
share
the
specifics
of
that
for
our
contracts
or
permits
that
we
have,
but
we've
seen
that
we've
already
been
doing,
that
for
entities
that
are
looking
for
a
one-time
discharge
into
our
system
and
requiring
additional
sampling
of
you
know
whether
it's
metals
or
emerging
constituents
to
make
sure
that
we
know
what's
coming
in
and
whether
or
not
we
even
can
approve
that
or
want
to
say
yes
to
those.
So
those
are
things
that
we've
already
started.
E
F
Thank
you
and
one
last
question.
If
I
could
so,
I
know
that
there's
some
legacy
pfas
that
seem
to
be
at
least
the
reading
I've
done
about
it
seem
to
be
declining
in
the
environment,
but
the
new
ones
are
being
introduced.
All
the
time
are,
we
are
we
testing
for
those
new
ones?
Are
we
testing
the
legacies?
Are
we
testing
both
and
for
both
and
as
you
go
forward
with
this
analysis,
will
you
be
looking
for
any
differences
in
those.
E
B
B
I
I
Madame
errors,
member
of
council,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
again.
This
is
the
third
and
final
in
a
series
of
presentations
about
the
boise
police
department
designed
to
provide
you
some
information
so
for
today
it
worked
for
today,
we'll
start
out
with
a
brief
recap
of
the
past
presentations
talk
about
a
few
other
areas.
The
council
expressed
concern
of
assets
that
we
may
have
personal
protective
equipment,
are
approaches
around
warrants
and
warrant
service,
and
then
crowd
management
and
we'll
talk
specifically
about
those
issues.
I
So
again,
just
as
a
brief
recap.
Obviously
we
have
a
strong
investment
in
community
policing
with
the
boise
police
department.
Part
of
how
we're
allocating
the
resources
that
we've
been
afforded
in
the
upcoming
year
is
to
increase
the
size
of
the
behavioral
health
response
team,
be
adding
an
officer
and
a
clinician
to
meet
that
service
need
for
the
community.
I
We'll
also
be
developing
the
beginnings
of
a
services
coordination
team
to
have
a
addiction
side,
services
coordinator,
as
well
as
an
officer
working
with
that
vulnerable
population
as
well
to
help
meet
that
service
need
we
provided
information
on
use
of
force
in
short
force
usage
in
the
city
of
boise
is
markedly
low
when
looked
at
by
national
standards.
It's
low
when
looked
at
by
pure
cities
as
well
in
2019,
the
number
sort
of
speaks
for
itself,
there's
force
even
at
the
lowest
levels,
to
the
higher
levels
of
force.
I
Force
gets
used
once
in
every
1378
contact
events.
So
we
also
mentioned
that
there
was
policy
review,
that's
underway
presently
going
through
the
entire
policy
manual,
examining
whether
or
not
it's
structured
in
a
format.
That's
digestible
by
the
members
of
the
boise
police
department,
as
well
as
the
public
we're
examining
the
benefit
of
restructuring
it
as
well
as
restructuring
the
way
the
policies
themselves
are
actually
presented
as
part
of
that
restructure,
ensuring
that
they
comport
with
national
best
practices
and
we're
drawing
from
a
sample
size
of
both
major
cities.
I
I
We
have
recognized
the
need
to
increase
our
training
for
responding
to
people
in
mental
health
crisis.
I'm
happy
to
say
that
this
week
we
started
the
first
of
a
series
of
trainings
designed
to
get
every
sworn
member
of
the
boise
police
department,
the
40
hours
of
crisis,
intervention
training
as
a
standard
that
is
generally
viewed
again
as
what
most
police
departments
offer
to
their
officers
that
are
in
specialized
crisis
intervention
teams.
That
will
be
the
standard
for
every
sworn
member
in
our
police
department.
I
We're
also
in
the
process
of
doing
a
training
needs
assessment,
starting
with
the
approach
of
assessing
the
needs
from
what
the
members
feel
they
need.
Most.
The
next
phase
will
be
assessing
community
input
in
using
that
training
needs
assessment
to
develop
a
training
plan
moving
forward
into
the
future.
That
will
be
the
first
training
plan
that
any
of
my
staff
at
the
boise
police
department
is
aware
that
we've
ever
developed
looking
at
addressing
those
critical
needs,
and
then
lastly,
I'll
mention
that
we
did
talk
about
resources
and
resource
time
allocation.
I
I
will
sum
it
up
in
that
there's
been
a
decrease
in
discretionary
time
for
officers
over
the
last
decade,
discretionary
time
being
the
amount
of
time
that
they're
free
to
engage
in
proactive
policing
free
to
engage
in
non-enforcement
activities
free
to
engage
with
the
community
much
the
way
the
community
wants
and
is
a
linchpin
for
community
policing
we're
examining.
If
there's
technologies,
we
can
leverage
to
buy
back
some
of
that
time,
how
we
can
allocate
resources
and
how
we
can
ensure
that
we
continue
with
a
community
policing
approach.
I
I'll
sum
it
up
by
saying
that
the
average
in
the
last
decade
comes
out
to
1.7
officer-involved
shootings
per
year.
You
can
look
at
the
graph
and
you
can
realize
that
there
are.
There
are
clearly
some
years
that
are
well
outside
the
norm.
The
mode
the
most
frequently
occurring
is
a
is
a
single
officer
involved,
shooting
a
year
not
to
make
light
of
any
any
exercise
of
deadly
force.
On
behalf
of
the
police,
we
want
to
avoid
those
situations
at
all
possible.
I
G
Madam
mayor,
just
a
follow-up
to
that
do
would
we
have
the
racial
ethnic
background
of
the
shooting
victims.
I
We
could
go
back
and
construct
that
I
don't
have
that
data
handy
one
of
the
interesting
byproducts.
I've
discovered
about
our
records
management
system.
Is
it's
not
designed
to
capture
any
what
we
would
call
racial
data
on
anybody,
whether
you're,
the
victim
of
a
crime,
whether
you're
a
suspect
whether
you're
shipping
abusive
force?
The
system
was
not
when
they
designed
it
and
implemented.
It
was
never
designed
to
capture
that
and
so
we're
having
to
reconstruct.
That
would
require
a
little
bit
of
time,
but
I
can
get
you
that
information
if
you're
interested.
I
I
Talking
about
personal
protective
equipment
and
the
assets
that
we
have
on
hand
all
lead
by
saying
that
military
surplus
equipment
what's
generally
referred
to
as
equipment
acquired
on
the
1033
program,
I
did
an
inventory
shortly
after
arriving,
we
did
have
assets
that
we
had
acquired
from
the
1033
program.
We
have
divested
ourselves
of
all
that
returned
it
to
the
idaho
state
police
to
return
back
it.
There
was
no
need
for
us
to
have
that
equipment
had
been
sitting
in
an
armory
on
used.
It
hadn't
been
used
for
years,
even
if
it
had
utility.
I
I
Speaking
more
specifically,
though,
to
some
of
the
other
items
that
draw
concern
is
you
know
we
do
have
a
lincol
bearcat,
it
is
an
armored
vehicle.
I
want
to
specifically
point
out
that
it's
an
armored
vehicle
designed
for
police
work,
it's
not
one
that
was
ever
designed
for
other
types
of
work.
It
is
a
piece
of
personal
protective
equipment.
I
Along
the
lines
of
personal
protective
equipment,
I
think
it's
important
to
recognize
that
there
are
actually
osha
regulations
that
govern
some
of
the
personal
protective
equipment
the
police
officers
have
to
have.
I
think,
when
we
think
of
ocean,
we
think
of
ppe
people,
think
of
people
from
public
works
and
maybe
working
in
a
environment
where
they
need.
You
know
protective
equipment
from
whatever
they
may
be
exposed
to,
whether
that's
a
respirator,
whether
that's
you
know
some
sort
of
hazmat
suit,
whether
that's
construction
grade
equipment.
I
We
operate
in
a
slightly
different
environment
and
we
do
recognize
that
we
have
to
be
able
to,
by
osha
standards,
provide
ppe
to
address
the
the
threats
and
hazards
of
our
environment,
to
sort
of
point
that
out
beyond
the
obvious
stuff
that
we
may
have,
such
as
nitrile
gloves
or
face
masks
in
the
time
of
the
pandemic
or
even
outside,
of
the
time
of
the
pandemic,
to
address
the
public
and
keep
our
officers
healthy
and
safe.
We
also
have
a
very
real
need
to
wear
ballistic
armor
case
in
point.
I
In
the
chest,
fortunately,
officer
mccarthy,
of
his
own
volition,
had
gone
out
and
bought
a
hard
ballistic
plate
for
his
chest.
That
rifle
round,
despite
having
gone
through
a
vehicle,
went
completely
through
the
hard
armor.
The
soft
armor
stopped
it.
Fortunately,
he
only
suffered
blunt
trauma.
It
would
be
akin
to
taking
a
fastball
to
the
chest.
We
were
able
to
medevac
him
out
of
the
area,
get
him
treatment
and
he
recovered
from
that.
G
Thank
you
for
describing
that
it
helps
me
to
understand
these
things
better
when,
when
there's
a
little
bit
of
storytelling
to
it,
so
I
appreciate
that
the
the
weapon
that
was
discharged
in
downtown-
I
know
that
predates
your
time
here,
but
it
was
this
summer,
the
the
level
of
damage
that
that
type
of
ammunition
would
have
caused.
How
does
that
compare
to
the
the
weapon
that
you're
describing
chief.
I
I
I
They
continue
to
rate
that,
as
well
as
other
personal
protective
equipment,
they're
continuing
to
develop
standards
for
other
challenges.
The
body
armor
is
not
simply
the
ballistic
chest
protector,
but
that
would
include
the
helmets
that
you
see
officers
wearing
they're,
not
just
designed
to
protect
them
from
blunt
impact,
they're
also
designed
to
protect
them
from
gunfire,
which,
unfortunately,
is
a
very
real
threat
in
the
city
that
we
work
in.
F
Vladimir
go
ahead,
thank
you,
chief.
Do
we
have
the
do?
We
have
data
on
the
use
of
not
the
body
armor,
but
the
all
of
the
stuff
on
the
slide
before
the
use
of
the
bearcat,
the
use
of
the
robots,
the
kinds
of
incidents
where,
where
we
do
use
them,
how
they're
you
know
the
stories
behind
that,
if
you
will.
I
So
the
bearcat
would
generally
be
deployed
by
what
most
people
would
just
refer
to
as
their
swat
team
rough
numbers
going
off
of
memory,
because
I
don't
have
the
notes
here.
There
was
about
12
deployments
in
2019.
In
other
words,
there
are
12
events
that
the
swat
team
responded
to
where
that
was
an
appropriate
piece
of
protective
equipment
for
them
to
be
dealing
with
the
individual
from
in
regards
to
how
often
we
would
use
the
robot,
it
would
really
depend
we're
responding
to
what
we
perceive
before
you
would
send
a
robot
downrange
you
have.
I
What
you
perceive
is
there's
a
decent
probability
that
that
is
an
explosive
device.
The
robot
does
afford
us
again,
this
concept
of
time
and
distance.
We
can
evacuate
an
area,
send
the
robot
downrange
to
look
at
the
device.
I'd
much
rather
lose
a
small
or
a
large
robot,
despite
the
thousands
of
dollars
and
suffer
the
loss
of
an
officer,
the
loss
of
a
citizen
or
having
either
of
those
people
permanently
named.
I
would
have
to
look
at
the
data
of
how
often
we're
actually
deploying
the
robot,
but
it
goes
out
any
time.
I
I
F
F
Change
the
way
that
we
gather
our
information
and
and
disperse
it
distribute
it
back
out
to
the
public.
That
might
be
one
place
that
we
would
look
at.
I
In
regards
to
warrant
services,
I
will
very
candidly
say
that
that
has
become
a
topic
of
much
conversation
in
the
united
states
lately,
and
I
think
that
it's
important
before
really
before
we
talk
about
how
a
warrant
is
serviced,
that
we
understand
that
the
warrant
is
fundamentally
an
order
from
a
judge
so
you're
in
order
to
see
to
search
pardon
me
to
search
a
location
or
it's
in
order
for
us
to
affect
the
arrests
of
an
individual.
I
There
are
a
variety
of
different
ways
that
search
warrants
can
be
served.
The
national
what's
considered
the
national
best
practice
under
ideal
circumstances
is
to
do
what's
known
as
a
containing
call
out
with
the
terminology
as
a
limited
penetration
of
the
home
and
essentially
you're,
going
to
break
down
a
door
or
something
else
fall
back
to
a
position
and
try
and
call
somebody
out.
The
idea
behind
that
is
that
you're
denying
the
sense
that
they
can
bunker
in
the
safety
inside
the
house
and
they're.
I
Much
more
likely
to
negotiate
and
come
out
through
negotiations
without
a
forced
intervention,
you
can
also
serve
a
search
warrant
via
dynamic
entry,
although
that
is
a
very
rare
occasion
that
you
would
do
that.
Generally
speaking,
the
only
reason
you
need
to
do
that
would
be
if
there
was
a
hostage
rescue
type
situation
or
there
was
an
active
shooter.
I
The
last
type
of
service
generally
in
these
broad
categories
that
you'll
hear
people
talk
about,
is
a
no
knock
search
warrant,
which
would
be
essentially
where
you're
entering
into
the
residence
and
not
announcing
your
presence
trying
to
enter
it
by
policy
that
exists
in
the
boise
police
department.
A
no
knock
search
warrant
could
be
authorized
if
the
chief
of
police
approves
it.
I
will
very
candidly
sit
here
in
front
of
council
and
tell
you
I
cannot
imagine
a
circumstance
where
that
is
the
appropriate
technique
for
service.
I
Although
having
said
that
there
there's
always
some
strange
fact
pattern.
Somebody
may
present
to
me
at
some
day
that
that
is
a
logical
conclusion,
but
I
cannot
envision
a
circumstance
where
a
true,
no
knock
warrant
makes
sense
and
I
think,
there's
a
very,
very
limited
slice
of
time
where
a
search
warrant
served
via
dynamic
injury
makes
sense.
I
think
we
should
be
sticking
with
what
is
the
national
best
standard,
which
is
the
general
trend
of
looking
at
how
they
have
served
warrants.
I
G
Madam
mayor,
so
chief,
is
there
a
possibility
that
we
couldn't
incorporate
a
policy
that
there
be
no
no
knock
warrants
for
bpd.
I
Functionally
that
policy
exists
now,
because
the
only
way
you
can
execute
one
is
with
the
authorization
of
the
chief
of
police.
Again,
I
can't
envision
the
circumstance
where
I
would
be
authorizing
it,
but
there
are
always
those
strange
fact
parents
we
may
be
presented
with.
I
would
be
willing
to
as
part
of
this
overall
examination
of
what
is
best
practice
as
we
examine
the
policies.
That
is
definitely
on
the
list
of
things
that
we
want
to
look
at.
G
I
think,
in
light
of
what
we've
seen
with
the
young
woman,
rihanna.
I
G
G
That
I
think
it's
something
that
we
should
seriously
consider
especially,
is
the
way
you're,
conveying
it
that
the
the
need
for
something
like
that
is
so
rare.
We
should
probably
just
make
a
policy.
F
Madam
mayor,
if
I
could
follow
up
on
that
point,
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
look
at
simply
getting
rid
of
that
as
a
practice.
F
Isn't
it
also
true
that,
even
if
the
chief
says
yes,
I
would
authorize
a
no
knock
warrant
that
still
has
to
go
before
a
judge,
and
the
judge
also
has
to
authorize
it
as
a
no
knock.
I
To
that
in
the
judge
does
have
say
in
whether
or
not
we
would
execute
a
search
warrant
outside
of
what
they
consider
normal
hours,
which
are
generally
viewed
as
sort
of
the
7
am
to
5
pm
kind
of
banker
hours
if
you'll
have
it.
If
we're
going
to
serve
a
search
warrant
very
early
in
the
morning
very
late
at
night,
that
again
would
require
judge's
approval
for
service
outside
of
normal
hours.
F
I
I
would
probably
I
would
have
to
talk
to
the
prosecutor's
office
to
try
and
figure
out
what
that
number
is
for
ada
county.
I
think
it
would
be
useful
for
us
if
I
can
get
that
data
to
tease
that
part
by
departments
to
understand
what
is
the
practice,
because,
again,
you
may
have
a
search
warrant
for
we
could.
We
could
have
a
desire
to
seek
a
suspect,
that's
insane,
meridian
or
eagle.
I
I
I
It
is
very
heavily
emphasized
that
it
is
a
management
philosophy,
with
control
being
only
an
option
if
necessary,
that
management
is
always
the
preferred
approach
to
dealing
with
an
event.
I
think
we've
seen
a
management
philosophy
in
the
last
few
events
out
here
that
have
responded
well,
that
there's
officer
presence
that,
by
mere
presence
they
try
and
facilitate
people's
lawful
rights
when
they
recognize
that
there
are
those
individuals
that
want
to
engage
in
criminal
activity.
I
There
really
is
not
an
oddity
in
a
city,
our
size
or
even
a
city
larger,
not
having
a
specific
policy
related
to
public
order
policing.
That
is
an
area
for
whatever
reason
the
american
policing
has
not
addressed
with
much
effort.
There
are
a
few
places
where
you'll
see
more
frequent
protest
activity.
Civil
unrest
and
civil
disturbances
that
are
occurring
you'll
see
that
those
departments
have
crafted
policies,
but
it
is
not
common
to
see
them
throughout
the
united
states.
It's
just
an
area,
that's
not
there.
I
So
it
is
a
little
bit
difficult
to
find
other
policies
to
compare
this
to
that
are
u.s
policies.
There
are
a
fair
amount
of
policies
related
to
other
countries.
The
royal
canadian
mounted
police,
the
united
kingdom,
germany,
for
example,
all
have
policies
that
govern,
but
we
have
to
look
at
how
well
they
can
port
with
american
law
to
be
able
to
translate
in
what
is
a
best
practice
there.
I
I
think
what's
important
to
understand,
though,
about
the
need
for
crowd,
management
and
crowd,
control
and
a
public
order
policy
in
general.
Is
that
we're
in
a
growing
city,
as
we've
discussed
many
times,
we're
seeing
a
time
in
american
history
with
increasingly
divergent
political
views
and
why
we
want
to
ensure
that
people
can
exercise
their
first
minor
rights?
We
also
want
to
ensure
that
it's
done
peacefully
and
that
they're
not
interfering
with
other
people's
rights
as
they
go
about
doing
it.
I
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
that
the
number
in
size
of
these
events
here
in
the
treasure
valley,
but
particularly
in
our
capital
city
here,
is
increasing.
When
I
look
at
historically
from
the
information
that's
captured,
versus
what
we've
seen.
Even
since
I
was
sworn
in,
pretty
substantial
increase
in
that
type
of
activity.
I
I'd
also
like
to
make
sure
the
council
understands
it
is
cr
incredibly
resource
intensive,
both
in
time
planning
ahead
of
the
event,
the
actual
operation
of
the
event,
and
it
can
be
so
resource
draining
just
to
ensure
that
those
events
are
peaceful,
that
we
essentially
have
minimal
capability
to
respond
to
other
policing
needs
in
the
city,
and
we
are
relying
upon
our
partners
in
the
treasure
valley
to
often
pick
up
that
slack
that
we
create
by
responding
to
these
events.
B
So
I
think
it's
really
important
that
not
only
do
we
have
a
policy
about
crowd,
control
and
the
steps
that
would
be
taken
if
things
are
elevated,
but
have
it
institutionalized
how
it
is
that
we
will
protect
safety,
protect
the
public
and
protect
folks
that
are
there
with
divergent
views
exercising
their
first
amendment
rights
to
ensure
that
we
can
prevent
the
violence
that
we've
seen
in
other
places
from
occurring
here,
and
I
believe,
if
we,
if
we
can
institutionalize
that-
and
we
do
it
right,
it
is
resource
heavy,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
partnerships
that
and
the
agencies
that
came
to
support
the
boise
police
this
summer.
B
Then
we
we've
done
as
as
much
as
possible
to
discourage
and
dissuade
those
who
might
decide
to
come
into
this
community
to
try
to
reenact
what
they've
seen
in
other
places
to
doing
that,
and
so
it's
a
resource
that
I
think
is
important.
But
like
traffic
and
road
engineering,
you
don't
engineer
for
rush
hour.
I
I
I
would
agree,
madam
mayor,
the
the
last
thing
that
I
would
mention
about
public
order
related
policing
is
that
if
we
unfortunately
find
ourselves
in
a
very
large
and
or
contentious
event,
the
personal
protective
equipment
that
the
officers
presently
have
it
is
frankly
inadequate
for
that
environment
there
are,
there
are
more
discrete
types
of
personal
protective
equipment.
I
I
have
the
police
department
conducting
research
to
see
if,
if
we
can
indeed
acquire
something
that
is
not
as
visually
objectionable
to
some
people,
but
would
still
afford
protection
for
the
officers,
but
there's
a
very
real
need
to
make
sure
that
if
they
are
operating
in
that
environment
that
I
can
do
with
a
reasonable
expectation
that
they
will
be
physically
safe
in
doing
it.
And
so
that
is
in
the
initial
overview
of
this
department.
I
There
is
clearly
a
technology
gap
there
and
a
resource
need,
and
so
we're
actively
looking
at
trying
to
find
a
solution
for
that
as
well
as
I've
got
a
conversation
later
this
week
with
people
to
bring
in
management
specific
training
for
public
order
policing
from
an
international
perspective
as
to
what
is
best
practice
to
help
armor
people
with
better
information,
so
that
we
can
hopefully
continue
to
have
successful
outcomes
here
in
our
city.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
chief
lee,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
how
to
ask
this
question
and
I
don't
don't
quite
know
how
to
do
it.
It
has
to
do
with
the
this
public
order,
policing,
because
I
don't
pretend
to
understand
how
to
know
to
control
that
type
of
environment,
how
to
de-escalate
things,
and
I
think
that
there
is
policy.
That's
related
to
you,
know
those
types
of
growing
protests.
I
guess
my
question
is:
how
do
you
do
that
during
covid
when
there's
a
whole
other
layer
of
policy
on
top
of
it?
D
So
when
we've
got
a
when
we're
talking
about,
you
know,
danger
or
putting
people
at
risk
and
you've
got
groups
of
people
who
are
showing
up
and
not
practicing.
You
know
some
of
the
the
mandates
that
we
have
in
place
like
mass
and
social
distancing.
You
know
how
does
that
layer
into
it
and
have
we
seen
any
cities
who
have
established
new
policies
because
of
the
protesting?
D
And
I
guess
it
all
relates
back
to
a
couple
of
the
protests
that
I've
seen
where
people
have
showed
up
to
peaceful
protests
wearing
a
mask.
Somebody
comes
up,
gets
in
their
face
during
a
pandemic
during
rising
numbers
and
is
inches
away
and
is
clearly
violating
that
space
and
a
mandate
that
we
have
in
place.
D
And
how
do
you,
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
like
how
do
you
create
policy
around
that,
so
that
your
key
people
keep
people
unsafe
in
those
circumstances,
when
a
pandemic
could
be
viewed
as
a
deadly
weapon
if
somebody's
getting
that
close
and
breathing
on
you,
that's
see,
that's
why
I
don't
know
quite
how
to
ask
these
questions.
I
don't
know
how
to
put
into
words,
but
I
know
that
there's
this
just
extra
layer
of
complication
going
on
right
now
that
I
don't
see
that
we've
enforced
and
I
saw
somewhere.
D
I
think
it
was
in
northern
idaho
for
the
first
time
issue,
some
citations
to
people
that
were
protesting
and
not
practicing
safe
protocol.
B
I
It's
always
a
challenge
for
the
police
in
dealing
with
these
events,
and
we
have
to
have
a
an
immediacy
of
the
danger
and
a
priority
of
safety
in
mind
as
we
address
those
issues,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
set
an
appointment
separately
to
talk
to
you
about
this
more
sir.
F
Madam
mayor,
can
I
ask
one
quick
question:
chief,
we
have
the
sro
contracts
on
our
resolution
calendar
tonight.
You
and
I
have
talked
about
the
need
to
gather
data
about
how
effective
that
program
is.
Could
you
tell
us
what
you're
planning
to
do
as
these
contracts
are
executed
this
year
in
terms
of
gathering
data.
I
I
just
had
a
meeting
with
the
sro
sergeants
and
the
lieutenant
that
supervises
that
unit.
We're
building
a
database
with
an
application
will
be
accessible,
so
we
can
track
the
the
number
of
calls
the
number
of
hours
are
spent,
as
well
as
how
often
we're
getting
into
formal
and
informal
diversion,
particularly
when
we
started
to
talk
about
certain
at-risk
youth
categories
with
generalized
demographics
was
not
to
create
a
record.
I'd,
be
happy
to
talk
to
you
about
that
more
in
depth,
separately.
Council
president.