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From YouTube: Boise City Council - Work Session
Description
November 30, 2021
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A
A
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
good
afternoon,
mayor
council
members.
I
am
here
today
to
present
the
certified
boise
city
municipal
election
results
from
the
ada
county
clerk's
office,
as
required
by
idaho
code
50-412,
the
ada
county
commissioners,
acting
as
the
board
of
canvassers
of
elections,
canvassed
the
results
of
the
election
that
took
place
on
november,
2nd
2021..
C
The
general
election
results
were
certified
by
ada
county
and
forwarded
to
the
boise
city
clerk's
office
on
november
16
2021
for
idaho
code.
The
boise
city
council
needs
to
accept
these
results
and
have
them
entered
into
the
minutes
of
the
boise
city
council
proceedings.
Today,
with
that,
I
will
stand
for
any
questions
and
seek
a
motion
to
accept
these
results.
B
C
A
D
So
just
a
quick
overview
on
the
pools.
Both
of
these
pools
were
constructed.
We
say
around
1953.
According
to
arts
and
history,
they
were
actually
opened
in
the
summer
of
1953,
so
they're,
a
fairly
dated
pool
in
our
inventory
they're,
what's
referred
to
as
a
bench
design
which
is
architect
wesley
vince,
he
did
about
120
or
so
of
these
pools
back
in
the
40s
and
50s
across
the
entire
country.
D
Depending
on
what
blog
or
facebook
or
city
website
you
look
at,
it
seems
to
be
they're
somewhere
between
12
and
as
many
as
19
that
are
still
in
existence,
but
there
are
only
eight
which
two
are
south
and
lowell
that
are
actually
still
being
utilized
as
swimming
pools
or
active
swimming
pools,
both
pools
and
again.
I
know
all
of
our
council
and
madam
mayor
are
very
familiar
with
these
designs,
but
just
a
quick
overview.
They
are
above
what
are
referred
to
as
above
ground
facilities.
D
Both
of
these
pools
have
don't
have
those
features.
They
start
at
three
feet
and
go
to
12
feet.
So
if
you
have
a
small
infant
that
doesn't
know
how
to
swim,
sometimes
it's
tough
to
to
utilize
the
this
pool
because
of
the
three
foot
depth
as
opposed
to
the
zero
depth
and
as
you
would
expect
they're
the
two
oldest
pools
that
we
have
in
our
inventory,
a
quick
note
that
council
and
mayor
and
council.
I
know
that
you're
aware
of
these
two
pools
weren't
open
the
last
two
years.
D
Two
years
ago,
we
didn't
open
any
of
our
pool
facilities
during
the
summer.
Due
to
the
covid
concern
this
last
year
we
elected
to
not
open
these
two
pools
and
again
sean
will
address
this,
but
it
really
was
mostly
attributed
to
the
the
analysis
that
we
had
done
by
a
consultant
that
determined
the
state
of
of
the
code
compliance
and
also
we're
well
aware
of
what
the
ada
issues
were,
but
that
was
brought
to
light
even
more
so
with
the
analysis
that
sean
will
go
over
with
you
in
a
second.
D
What
really
the
options
could
be
and
really
guide
the
engagement
process
to
come
up
with
what
the
public
would
want
to
see
whether
these
pools
get
replaced,
whether
these
pools
get
rebuilt
and
any
combination
thereof
at
either
or
location,
and
so
that
process
is
going
to
begin
real
soon
and
again,
I'll
cover
most
of
that
here
in
a
moment.
But
what
I'd
like
to
do
now
is
turn
it
over
to
sean
and
have
him
address
some
of
the
code,
compliance
and
ada
compliance
issues
that
that
we're
faced
with
with
both
pools
so
sean.
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F
F
We
had
a
lead
in
asbestos
surveys
done,
they
had
been
done
previously,
but
that's
kind
of
part
of
the
baseline
and
then
we
also
did
a
site
constraints,
analysis
kind
of
knowing.
If
we
are
to
look
at
alternatives
for
the
sites
in
the
future,
you
know
what
are
options
for
the
site.
What
we
did
not
do
is
structural
integrity.
It's
a
little
bit
more
invasive,
doing
that,
but
that'd
be
kind
of
a
future
study.
F
So
generally,
the
conditions
condition
assessment
revealed
their
overall
poor
condition
across
all
disciplines,
so
the
pools
are
aging
out
kind
of
everything
about
them
at
the
same
time
and
pretty
substantial
code
challenges
kind
of
in
every
category
so
like,
for
example,
the
treatment
system
doesn't
meet
international
fire
code,
a-dag,
there's
some
accessibility
code
challenges
kind
of
across
the
board
code
challenges
with
it
from
an
ada
assessment
kind
of
the
outcome
was
again
substantial
deficiencies
with
accessibility.
I
think
it's
kind
of
if
you've
been
there,
it's
pretty
obvious.
F
Evaluation
we'd
want
to
know
what's
what's
sort
of
the
boundaries
around
us
in
the
south
pole
on
the
left
there,
the
black
dash
line
or
the
setbacks,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
how
restricted
the
site
is.
There's
really
not
not
a
lot
of
space.
In
there,
the
lowell
site,
of
course,
offers
quite
a
bit
more
opportunity,
that's
kind
of
an
odd
shape,
but
there's
definitely
more
space,
and
so
alternatives
have
a
little
more
probably
flexibility.
F
C
F
F
E
G
So
thanks
sean
are,
we
gonna
be
able
to
have
a
real
full
cost
estimate
of
a
just
completely
renovating
for
reuse,
so
that
we'd
know
what
the
comparable
is
and
then
b
some
cost
estimate
of
saving
the
facade
and
reusing
the
site
so
that
when
we
do
this
outreach,
I
guess
what
I'm
worried
about.
Is
that
we're
going
to
go
into
this
outreach?
Saying
hey,
we
have
these
old
pools
they're
in
bad
shape.
We
don't
think
we
can
do
anything
with
them.
What
do
you
want
to
do
instead
of
saying?
G
F
Make
sense
no
mayor
councilman
that
makes
sense
what
we've
done
to
date
is
mostly
baselining,
so
we'll
definitely
have
cost.
We
did
do
cost
estimates
on
all
the
systems
and
we
still
need
to
do
structural,
but
what
we're
trying
to
do,
I
guess-
and
we
have
so
done
some
site
due
diligence
but
better
understand
sort
of
the
scale
of
the
types
of
investments
for
different
things,
and
I
guess
that
would
kind
of
fit
into
what
those
constraints
are.
You
know
the
site
constraint.
A
Okay
and
and
I'll
jump
in
here
too,
my
sense
of
this
is
that
this
is
with
the
first.
It's
almost
like.
We
want
to
go
out
and
get
some
focus
group
information
before
we
say
these
are.
These
are
some
of
the
options.
This
is
what
they
would
cost,
give
us
additional
feedback
to
really
understand
because
of
the
connections.
So
many
people
and
organizations
have
with
these
pools
to
really
understand
what
people
are
thinking
about.
Okay,.
G
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
If
I
could
follow
up
on
that,
you
know
I
agree.
I
just
I
guess,
I'm
a
little
worried
from
the
tenor
of
what
I'm
hearing
tonight
that
the
message,
even
at
those
early
meetings,
will
be.
We
don't
think
we
can
renovate
these
pools.
But
what
do
you
want
to
do
with
them?
Rather
than
hey?
We've
got
these
treasured
pools.
We
know
that
people
really
have
a
connection
to
them.
We
want
to
understand
that
more
deeply,
so
we
can
understand
how
to
either
replace
and
or
does
that
make
sense.
B
A
A
Is
it
that
they
really
liked
us
having
a
cement
top
round
pool
to
jump
in
with
nothing
else
around
it,
which
is
what
I
love
for
my
kids
right
so
trying
to
understand
that,
as
we
think
about
how
we
best
use
these
sites
to
ensure
that
our
residents
have
access
to
pools
in
these
neighborhoods.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
H
H
Absolutely
yeah:
well,
it
seemed
like
one
thing
that
came
up
back
could
have
been
12
years
ago,
but
potentially
using
these
sites.
As
for
skating-
and
you
know,
a
skateboarding
facilities.
That
sort
of
thing
is
that
I
know
you
got
to
go
through
the
process,
but
was
that
just
something
kind
of
seeing
some
of
it
stuck
to
the
wall
back
then
or
is
that
a
reality.
D
I
think
there
was
an
option
that
came
out
on
the
table
that
if
these
pools
were
no
longer
to
exist
as
swimming
pools,
was
there
an
option
that
they
could
be
retrofitted
to
the
skate
escape
facility,
which
I
don't
believe
none
of
these
have
been
done
around
the
country,
but
they
have
converted
old
swimming
pools
around
the
country
to
skate
facilities,
and
so
that
was
looked
into,
though,
about
that
much
and
really
didn't
go
much
further
beyond
that.
So
and
that
wasn't
really.
D
That
is
not
one
of
the
options
we
were
considered
and
again
the
purpose
of
this.
I
appreciate
both
madam
mayor
and
council
member
claire,
your
input
because
we're
presented
to
you
what
our
community
outreach
plan
is
going
to
look
like
we're
very
open
to
direction
on
that,
and
it
is
a
chicken
or
egg,
but
I
think
madame
what
you
just
said,
I
think
is
really
where
we're
where
we're
heading.
D
D
Is
it
just
a
pool
you
wanted
in
the
neighborhood
or
is
it
this
pool
completely
rebuilt
in
the
neighborhood
or
is
it
some
combination
of
the
two
like
what
council
member
thompson
brought
up?
One
of
the
proposals
we
brought
before
was
the
facade
rebuild
the
pool
inside,
and
it
was
just
a
very
basic,
very
superficial
presentation.
D
We
did
to
council
many
years
ago
as
an
option
and
then
just
got
put
aside,
so
we
were
even
looking
back
then
at
redoing,
the
pool
but
keeping
a
portions
of
it
and
so
our
interaction
with
the
public
to
date.
Madam
mayor
and
council
members
has
been
all
over
the
board,
so
there's
people
that
want
this
pool
reap
both
pools
rebuilt
as
they
are
compliant
and
and
look
just
like
they
look
right
now,
but
they're
brought
into
the
21st
century
from
an
ada
and
a
code
compliance
perspective.
D
There
are
many
people
we
talk
to
that
say
we
just
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
pool.
We
want
a
pool
in
our
neighborhood,
we
we
love
having
a
pool
in
our
neighborhood,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
continue
to
have
a
pool
in
our
neighborhood,
and
so
that's
where
we
refer
to
objective
conversations
to
really
understand
what
user
preferences
are,
and
so
we've
invited
a
number
of
stakeholders.
We've
already
extended
the
invitations
it'll
be.
This
will
be
just
the
very
beginning,
we'll
start
in
these
conversations.
D
Actually,
next
week
and
they're,
with
neighborhood
association
representatives,
representatives,
they're
neighbors
of
that
are
located
next
to
those
pools,
we
have
historians,
we
have
preservationists,
we've
invited
members
of
the
mobility
community.
I
believe
we've
even
reached
out
to
a
young
man,
a
youth
who
started
the
friends
or
save
live
pool
facebook
page
to
even
be
a
stakeholder,
so
anyone
who's
reached
out
to
us
with
a
with
a
strong
interest.
D
We
have
reached
out
to
them
and
asked
them
to
be
part
of
the
stakeholder
group,
which
will
be
our
base
group
that
we'll
begin
with
in
december.
Once
we
get
into
the
first
part
of
the
year,
we'll
begin,
then
the
robust
public
outreach
piece
and
that
will
probably
take
us.
Madam
mayor
council
members
into
somewhere
in
the
late
spring
probably
may
time
frame,
it
will
include
a
number
of
plan
elements,
including
community
surveys,
we'll
have
a
series
of
public
meetings,
we're
planning
some
workshops
that
we'll
host
at
each
pool
site.
D
So
we
can
actually
do
tours
of
the
pool
and
discuss
some
options
that
could
occur
at
each
of
those
locations.
There'll,
obviously
be
a
number
of
virtual
engagement
opportunities
as
well,
and
then
we're
going
to
take
that
stakeholder
group
that
we've
identified
and
they've
agreed
to
stay
with
us
through
this
whole
process,
so
they'll
be
they'll,
be
working
hand
in
hand
with
us
with
the
general
public
on
on
as
we
move
forward
with
the
public
engagement
process.
D
They
will
facilitate
the
meetings
on
our
behalf
and
the
goal
will
be
to
have
a
number
of
options
that
can
come
back
to
the
mayor
council
for
consideration
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So
that
would
be
the
ultimate
goal.
Is
here's
the
options
that
we
came
up
with?
Here's
the
associated
costs
that
sean
and
his
team
will
assign
to
each
of
those
options,
and
then
we
will
bring
those
back
to
the
mayor
and
city
council
for
further
discussion.
D
There
will
also
be
more
community
engagement
once
we've
assigned
what
those
options
are
and
what
the
costs
are.
We
anticipate
going
back
to
the
public
and
discussing
each
of
those
options
with
the
public
as
well.
So
I
think
there's
going
to
be
more
than
ample
opportunity
for
that
engagement
process
to
really
vet
out
what
our
public
wants
to
see
and
us
to
have
the
opportunity
to
say
what
we
can
afford
and
can't
afford,
because,
obviously
to
retrofit
both
pools
and
get
them
up
to
speed.
We
don't
know
what
that
cost
is
going
to
be.
D
We
assume,
if
the
baseline,
just
on
the
code,
compliance
is
2.4
million,
I'm
sure
it's
significantly
higher
to
do
the
ada
compliance
and
get
that
in
line
with
with
so
the
pool
could
open
back
up
actually
legally
now
so.
But
but
I
I
do
hear
the
concern
that
if
we
go
out
and
just
say,
you
know,
tell
us
all
your
options
and
we're
not
really
focusing
on
what
the
financial
implications
of
those
options
are.
D
I
know
that's
a
slippery
slope,
but
I
think
we
can
navigate
that
council
member
clay
in
the
meetings,
particularly
if
we
go
with
the
baseline
on
that
and
that's
on
our
website.
The
the
the
analysis
that
sean's
consultants
have
done.
They're
on
our
website,
a
number
of
the
stakeholders.
I've
talked
to
have
read
them
front
to
back
and
understand
what
all
the
issues
are.
So
it's
no
secret
that
we'll
be
discussing
those
issues
with
all
of
our
stakeholders
and
in
all
of
our
public
outreach.
D
But
again,
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
our
goal
and
again
I'm
looking
for
direction.
If
council
wants
to
provide
any
any
to
us
as
we
pursue
this
outreach
program,
but
is
to
just
come
up
with
find
out
what
our
public
wants
to
see.
Put
those
in
option
form
assign
what
the
costs
are
to
those
and
then
bring
those
back
to
the
mayor
and
council
for
discussion
on
what
direction
we
go
from
there.
E
And
the
mayor,
thank
you
so
much
doug
and
I
think
that
having
this
robust
public
outreach
will
really
make
a
difference
when
it
comes
to
time
to
make
a
decision
on
it.
One
thing
that
I
would
find
really
interesting-
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
part
of
a
survey
or
if
it's
data
that
you
already
have
on
attendance
at
these
pools
and
just
kind
of
like
how
that
compares
to
our
other
pool
facilities
and
maybe
there's
something
in
the
survey
about
you
know
why,
like
why
people
might
use
one
pool
over
another.
D
If,
for
example,
south
can't
be
rebuilt
at
that
location,
and
if
that
was
the
decision
that
was
made
where,
where
would
we,
we
want
to
keep
a
bench
in
that
area
bench
pool
somewhere
in
that
area?
So
we
would
need
to
find
a
an
alternative
location
if
that,
if
that
was
the
direction
we
were
to
go
as
far
as
attendance,
I
purposely
left
that
out
of
presentations,
we
will
be
discussing
it
with
our
stakeholders
and
in
the
outreach
process,
but
I
didn't
want
it
to
look
like.
D
D
E
Madam
mayor,
just
one
follow-up
comment
on
that.
I
totally
agree
and
I
think
that
the
the
insightful
piece
of
that
would
be.
We
know
that
there's
demand
for
pools.
Why,
specifically,
are
people
choosing
other
pools
over
these
pools?
What
are
the
amenities
that
they
want
to
see?
What
are
the
deficiencies
that
are
maybe
causing
them
to
not
use
them
and
just
kind
of
gaining
that
insight,
so
that
we
can
build
something
better
yeah.
I
D
Madam
mayor
councilmember
sanchez
is
a
city-wide
outreach.
We
did
a
part
of
our
stakeholders.
Is
our
members
of
neighborhood
associations
around
that
particular
area
and
primarily
obviously
it's
in
their
neighborhood,
but
also
they're?
They
are
our
citizens
that
have
reached
out
to
us
over
time,
but
recognize
that
it
has
to
be
a
city-wide,
obviously
effort,
because
any
expense
to
re
to
whatever
we
do
here
is
a
city-wide
expense,
not
just
a
neighborhood
expense.
I
D
J
Mary
comment
on
a
question
comment:
councilmember
thompson.
I
might
have
been
the
person
who
reached
out
to
you
about
turning
one
of
those
into
a
skate
park
12
years
ago.
You
know
and
doug.
My
question
is:
while
we're
doing
some
of
this
outreach,
you
know,
I
know
that
we're
doing
some
structural
research
as
well.
What
I'm
wondering
is,
if
it
turns
out
that
I
know
they're
the
same
age,
but
if
it
turns
out
that
one
pool
is
in
better
shape
than
others
there
a
chance
that
there
will
be
different
outcomes
for
different
pools.
J
D
Madame
eric
council
member
halliburton,
absolutely
I
I
would
say
that,
and
in
fact
that
is
some
of
the
stakeholders.
I've
talked
to
have
asked
if
that's
an
option
that
that
one
could
be
retained
in
a
different
state
than
the
other
could
be
depending
on
not
just
structural,
but
just
logistics
and
and
financial
considerations.