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From YouTube: City Council Work Session - 7/28/2020
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B
C
Thank
you.
First
up,
we
have
our
work
session
items
is
the
water
renewal
utility
plan.
I
see
steve
you're
wearing
a
suit
and
a
coat
and
a
tie.
Welcome.
D
F
D
Okay,
madam
mayor,
thank
you
very
much
council
members
thanks
for
the
time
this
afternoon.
Let
me
share
my
screen.
Let's
see.
D
Go
so
again,
thank
you
for
the
time
I
really
appreciate
it,
and
in
many
ways
this
is
a
restart
to
a
to
a
process
that
we
started
back
in
march,
but
then
kova
19
had
other
plans.
So
what
we're
going
to
cover
today
is
somewhat
similar
to
what
we
covered
in
march
will
be
some
kind
of
reminder
slides
from
what
we
covered
in
march,
but
then
we're
going
to
cover
some
information
on
how
we
plan
to
engage
the
council
in
the
process.
Given
the
challenges
of
covet
19.
D
We
had
this
really
nice
process
laid
down
over
six
months,
but
but
we
had
to
scrap
that
so
working
with
council
member
beijing
who's
our
council
sponsor
on
this
work,
and
thank
you
to
him
for
for
several
phone
calls
that
were
really
helpful
to
us
in
trying
to
figure
out
how
best
to
present
the
information
to
you.
We've
come
up
with
a
revised
plan
that
we'll
share
with
you
today,
that'll
we'll
be
getting
through
it
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
So
today
we'll
cover
the
water
renewal.
D
So
again,
thank
you
for
the
time.
So,
starting
back,
if
we
go
back
a
ways
providing
a
historic
historical
perspective,
the
river
was
not
always
in
the
shape
that
it
is
in
today.
In
fact,
in
the
40s
and
50s
it
was
in
pretty
bad
shape.
We
had
a
lot
of
pollution.
It
was
kind
of
the
burial
ground
for
a
lot
of
trash.
You
can
see
the
pictures
here
old
car
bodies
and
the
river
itself.
The
quality
of
the
river
was
was
bad.
D
D
The
river
was
in
pretty
bad
shape
and
in
many
ways
I
think
it
was
the
first
time
at
least
that
I
can
think
of
where
boise
kind
of
rose
up
and
said
we
can
do
better,
and
in
this
case
it
was
the
state
of
the
river
and
you've
seen
this
slide
before
and
it's
one
of
my
favorites,
because
it
really
is
kind
of
the
birth
of
water
renewal
services,
as
we
know
it
today
and
that's
a
letter
from
the
league
of
women
voters
urging
boiseans
to
vote
yes
on
a
bond
election
in
november
of
1947
to
build
what
we
now
know
today
as
the
lander
street
water
renewal
facility
and
so
to
me.
D
This
is
a
good
framing
of
our
origin
started
with
the
citizens
saying
that
we
want
something
better.
There
was
no
federal
mandate
at
the
time,
but
it
was
just
specifically
the
legal
women
voters
saying
we
can
do
better,
and
so
out
of
that
came
the
lander
street
facility
and
throughout
our
recent
years,
that
the
generations
before
us
have
taken
steps
to
address
various
water
quality
issues
or
they've,
taken
innovative
approaches
to
different
problems.
D
D
We
built
the
west
boise
facility,
which
is
a
quote
unquote
newer
of
the
two
facilities
back
in
76
and
primarily
that
facility
was
built
off
of
grant
money
from
the
federal
government
that
was
associated
with
the
clean
water
act.
1994
we
purchased
the
20
mile
south
farm,
we're
one
of
only
a
handful
of
cities
that
own
their
own
farm
and
apply
their
biosolids
for
local
crop
production
back
in
94.
D
That
was,
nobody
had
done
that
before
again
innovation
in
the
water
renewal
fund,
you
can
see
the
dixie
drain
facility
constructed
in
2016.,
so
we
have
a
history
of
the
generations
before
us,
taking
action
and
either
pursuing
innovation
or
doing
things
well
ahead
of
of
the
need
arising,
and
I
think
of
that
as
a
vision
that
folks
had
back
then
for
where
we
could
go
into
the
future.
D
D
How
do
we
enhance
the
river,
but
then
how
do
we
go
beyond
one
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
very
clearly
from
our
citizen
engagement
over
the
past
four
years?
Is
that
the
river
river
is
hallowed
ground
and
that
the
citizens
expect
more
from
us
this?
This,
the
group
of
men
and
women
who
form
water
renewal
services,
we're
going
to
share
that
with
you
over
the
next
couple
months.
D
Kind
of
what
they
told
us,
but
just
know
that
we
heard
very
clear
that
clearly
from
from
our
community
that
they
expect
more
from
water
renewal
services,
so
so
water
renewable
services,
specifically
when
I
took
over
as
director
it's
hard
to
believe,
it's
been
three
and
a
half
years
that
I've
been
serving
as
director.
One
of
the
first
initiatives
that
we
undertook
was
to
rename
water
renewal
services
before
it
was
known
as
the
sewer
fund
or
the
wastewater
fund.
It
wasn't
really
capturing
really
what
we
were
bringing
to
the
table.
D
I
felt
pretty
strongly
that
we
we
could
reframe
it
to
better
describe
the
services.
Words
are
important
and
these
words
that
you
see
on
the
screen
are
important
to
us.
They
better
describe
the
services
that
we're
providing
to
the
citizens.
We
renew
things.
We
don't
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
waste
at
these
facilities.
D
D
D
D
We
haven't
necessarily
talked
about
the
utility
and
those
kind
of
in
that
context
before
the
the
billion
word
or
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars-
and
I
think
that's
important.
It
provides
context
to
some
of
the
solutions
that
we're
going
to
be
recommending
to
you
in
the
future
that
do
have
a
significant
price
tag.
That's
not
lost
on
me.
D
But
generally
speaking,
those
are
very
rare
occurrences
and
it's
not
as
if
we
have
we've
ever
had
like
the
southeast
part
of
town
or
west
boise
or
the
north
end.
Hey.
You
can't
use,
take
a
shower
use
the
bathroom
for
the
next
three
days
or
for
the
next
seven
hours,
because
our
our
our
folks
are
very
focused
on
maintaining
that
up
time,
and
so
we
typically
don't
ever
ask
folks
not
to
use
our
system
only
in
the
case
of
or
it
might
be
a
onesie
two
z
backup
within
a
home.
D
So
that's
something
that
very
we're
very
proud
of
and
when
we
move
into
the
future-
and
we
start
thinking
about
replacement
of
aging
assets,
you'll
see
as
we
go
through
the
next
couple
months.
D
One
of
our
biggest
cost
items
is
to
start
replacing
aging
assets
and
that's
related
back
up
to
making
sure
that
we
can
maintain
that
approximate
100
service
uptime,
but
we
know
going
into
the
future
that
that
things
are
changing
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
jumped
out
to
us,
as
we
did
the
last
three
years
of
community
community
engagement,
was
that
our
citizens
are
expecting
are
expecting
more
from
us.
D
They
expect
us
to
take
on
things
like
climate
change
and
think
about
how
the
utility
can
help
address,
say:
drought
conditions
we
heard
very
clearly
from
them
that
environmental
protection
beyond
the
minimums
is
of
interest
and
that
they're
willing
to
pay
a
little
bit
more
additional.
If
we
can
show
the
value
of
that
additional
investment.
D
I
mentioned
the
aging
infrastructure
for
better
or
worse,
I'm
the
I'm,
the
the
director
that,
where
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
is
starting
to
age
out
with
the
lander
street
facility
being
a
great
example,
it
was
built
in
49.
So
it's
70
years
old
and
it
has.
D
Certainly,
we've
had
growth
in
the
past
and
we
continue
to
have
growth
in
the
future,
and
we've
got
to
figure
out
how
to
add
capacity
in
a
smart
way
that
might
be
support,
other
outcomes
that
we
want,
and
then
affordability
hasn't
necessarily
been
an
issue
for
us
in
the
past,
and
I
say
that
with
some
caution,
I'm
not
suggesting
that
we
have
that
we're
that
our
services
are
free.
I
know
it
costs
people
and
certainly
for
folks
on
a
fixed
income.
It's
not
insignificant,
but
I.
D
I
look
forward
in
thinking
about
the
percent
of
our
utility
bills
for
certain
incomes
income
brackets,
it's
starting
to
become
a
higher
percentage
that
we
think
needs
to
get
addressed,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
talking
to
you
about
affordability
and
talking
about
maybe
innovative
ways
of
funding
projects
in
the
future,
where
we
can
have
an
eye
towards
affordability,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
make
it
as
cost
effective
as
possible,
and
so,
if
I
were
to
think
about
the
utility
plan
and
what
we're
trying
to
frame
for
you
all,
it's
really
trying
to
think
about.
D
How
do
we
integrate
to
today's
needs
with
an
eye
towards
what's
coming
in
the
future,
so
near-term
needs.
We
want
to
continue
on
our
proven
capabilities.
We
know
how
to
meet
regulatory
requirements.
That's
that's!
That's
like
our
101.
We
know
how
to
do
that.
We
know
how
to
replace
aging
assets,
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
lot
of
that
right
now
and
we
know
how
to
address
capacity
issues
to
meet
growth
demands,
but
then
how
do
we
do
that
with
an
eye
towards
the
future?
D
D
They
expect
us
to
enhance
the
health
and
uses
of
the
boise
river
and
maybe
beyond
just
the
minimum
regulatory
requirements.
They
expect
us
to
address
things
like
climate
change
and
balance,
affordability,
and
so,
when
I
think
about
our
plan,
what
we
tried
to
do
was
integrate
our
near-term
needs.
So,
for
example,
we
know
we're
gonna
have
to
bring
on
new
capacity
new
treatment
capacity
as
we
grow,
but
we
want
to
do
that
in
a
way
that
allows
us
to
leverage
potentially
the
ability
to
recycle
water.
D
So
maybe
maybe
I'm
stealing
my
own
thunder
a
little
bit,
but
maybe
in
the
future,
when
we
bring
on
new
capacity
it'll,
be
in
a
way
that
that
it's
only
a
new
capacity
that
can
be
used
that
promotes
recycled
water
instead
of
just
adding
capacity
at
existing
facilities.
Where
we
couldn't
recycle
it,
it
would
just
go
in
the
river.
So
that's
where
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
balancing
the
near-term
needs
with
that
longer-term
vision
and
trying
to
integrate
the
two
and
so
our
plan.
D
We
feel
pretty
strongly
that
it's
a
plan
for
our
community
that
was
built
by
our
community.
When
we
first
went
out
to
the
community
for
feedback,
we
didn't
go
to
them
with
a
solution
or
even
two
or
three
solutions.
D
Take
treat
the
water
to
a
drinking
water
level,
or
we
can
just
continue
what
we
do
today
and
help
us
understand
where
you're,
where
you
are
on
that
continuum
and
then,
as
we
started,
getting
more
feedback
on
that
kind
of
question
and
we
had
focus
groups,
and
then
we
had
the
advisory
group
and
they
all
were
telling
us
and
giving
us
feedback
helping
direct
us
to
these
portfolios
that
we're
going
to
share
with
you
in
the
coming
coming
months.
It
wasn't
us
that
came
up
with
the
portfolios
it
was
from
the
community.
D
We
were
very,
very
cognizant
of
managing
long-term
risk
costs
and
so
we're
only
one
of
a
handful
of
utilities.
That's
trying
to
quantify
risk
costs
and
we'll
show
you
how
we
did
that
in
the
future
memos
and
presentations,
but
we
wanted
to
be
proactive
about
that,
so
that
we
could
demonstrate
to
the
community
that
we're
not
waiting
around
for
something
to
happen
to
us
we're
managing
trying
to
manage
it.
So
we
can
be
proactive
in
developing
solutions.
D
The
triple
bottom
line
was
a
big
part
of
our
analysis,
so
we
took
we
looked
at
the
obviously
the
financial
implications
of
decisions
we
considered
the
environmental
outcomes,
but
we
also
looked
at
things
like
the
community
cost
of
carbon.
So
if
a
solution
had
a
higher
energy
need,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
captured
that
risk
cost
associated
with
the
basically
the
the
discharge
of
pollutants
from
production
of
electricity.
D
So
we
wanted
to
capture
that
triple
bottom
line
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
hadn't
necessarily
been
as
deliberate
about
affordability,
but
we
know
that's
becoming
a
bigger
issue,
so
we're
being
deliberate
about
that
now
and
if
we've
done
this
right-
and
you
all
will
be
the
judge
of
that.
Frankly,
if
we've
done
this
right,
we'll
have
this
recommended
approach
that
will
fit
inside
these
boundary.
D
Conditions
of
financial
capacity,
asset
conditions,
system
demands
and
stakeholder
interests,
and-
and
I
guess
if
I
can
be
even
more
frank
if
I've
done
my
job
right-
we'll
have
delivered
the
least
total
cost
of
ownership.
While
meeting
boise's
expectations,
it's
not
the
least
cost
period,
it's
the
least
cost
of
ownership,
while
making
sure
that
we
understood,
we
were
meeting
the
higher
expectations
that
boiseans
are
asking
us
to
meet
and
so
again
we'll
frame
all
this
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
D
But
I
just
wanted
to
just
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
on
the
approach
and
what
made
it
unique
and
so
going
back
to
our
public
engagement
piece.
This
was
kind
of
the
foundation
from
which
we
move
forward
and
you
can
see
on
the
left.
There
are
pictures
of
the
advisory
group.
We've
got
some
social
media
that
we're
asking
folks
to
take
the
surveys
and
all
told
we
we
were
able
to
get
out
to
about
2700
plus
citizens,
who
had
some
type
of
involvement
in
our
engagement
efforts
and
colin
hickman
who's.
D
So
let's
talk
about
the
next
couple
of
months.
What
are
the
next
steps,
and
so
this
is
a
fairly
detailed
table,
but
I
just
want
to
walk
through
this
with
you,
and
this
is
kind
of
our
adjustment
to
addressing
the
process
given
the
challenges
of
of
covid.
D
So
this
is
the
introduction
happening
today
on
the
28th
on
the
fourth
and
the
11th
you're,
going
to
get
two
memorandums
one
on
the
fourth
describing
our
approach
to
infrastructure,
condition
and
capacity,
and
then
the
next
memo
on
the
11th
we'll
talk
about
climate
change
and
regulatory
requirements.
How
we
address
that
in
the
plan
you'll
note,
there's
no
council
meetings
on
those,
so
you'll
just
be
getting
memos
on
those
particular
issues
on
the
18th,
we're
going
to
have
a
presentation
on
the
state
of
recycled
water.
D
So
if
you
recall
about
a
year
over
a
year
ago,
we
had
some
citizens
expressed
concern
about
recycled
water,
and
so
we
hired
a
global
and
that
a
global
consultant,
corolla
engineers
who's
doing
work
around
the
world
and
know
the
state
of
the
art
on
recycled
water
and
concerns
over
emerging
constituents.
D
We're
going
to
give
you
that
presentation,
because
moving
forward,
we
are
going
to
propose
recycled
water
as
part
of
our
utility,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
all
understand
and
have
the
most
recent
information
on
the
state
of
recycled
water
and
we'll
have
that
expert
available
on
the
zoom
call
on
the
18th
and
the
20th.
25Th
you'll
get
two
more
memos,
one
on
community
engagement
and
expectations
and
then
the
25th
of
financial
capacity
and
affordability.
Memo
and
then
we'll
have
the
recommended
approach,
presentation
on
september
first
and
then
the
public
hearing.
D
I
think
my
the
box
here
yeah
september
15th,
the
public
hearing
and
that's
all
leading
to
a
month
later,
we'll
have
the
council
utility
plan
decision
and
our
hope
is
that
that
you'll
be
supportive
of
the
recommended
approach.
So
let
me
stop
there.
I
have
a
couple
more
slides,
but
before
I
move
on
to
those
just
any
questions
on
the
the
updated
approach
with
council.
H
Okay
to
my
colleagues,
one
of
the
things
that
steve
and
I
talked
about
was
how
to
deliver
a
huge
amount
of
information
to
us
in
a
pandemic
world
instead
of
a
pre-pandemic
world.
H
H
We
would
get
a
lot
of
meetings
and
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
ask
steve
all
the
questions
that
we
have
and
to
really
work
through
this
and
in
the
ordinary
workflow,
along
with
the
council
president,
and
with
her
permission,
what
I
told
steve
was
give
us
homework
and
we
will
do
it.
So
that's
why
you
see
memos
during
our
break.
You
see
various
portions
of
this
are
memo.
H
B
B
Yes,
yes,
please
thank
you,
so
I
appreciate
councilmember
beijing
talking
about
the
homework
and
we
did
talk
about
that
in
a
leadership
meeting.
We
also
talked
about
the
fact
that
sometimes
people
have
questions
about
their
homework
and,
in
some
cases
it's
a
while
until
we
have
another
presentation
and
that
presentation
will
be
focused
on
something
else.
So
we
ask
the
staff
to
figure
out
some
opportunity
for
those
of
you
who
do
have
homework,
questions
to
be
able
to
ask
those
and
get
those
answered.
B
I
don't
know
exactly
what
that's
going
to
look
like
yet
steve.
I
I
guess,
but
just
know
that
you
will
be
expected
to
read
it,
but
after
you
read
it
whatever
doesn't
make
sense
is,
is
free
game
for
making
steve
scratch
his
head
and
answer
us
yep.
D
And
madame
council
president,
thank
you
for
that
and
yeah
we're
working
on
on
getting
on
figuring
out
how
best
to
do
that,
and
so
we'll
be
coming
back
to
to
council
leadership
with
a
kind
of
recommended
approach
on
how
best
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
D
Okay,
a
couple
more
slides
and
then
we'll
wrap
it
up
and
open
it
up
to
questions.
So
as
we're
going
through
that
process
with
council,
we
do
have
a
very
intentional
process
with
the
public
and
so
we'll
have
a
concurrent
process,
as
you
saw,
those
dates
laid
out.
A
concurrent
process
with
the
public
social
media
there'll
be
online
stories,
we'll
be
requesting
feedback
we're
going
to
post
all
these
memos
to
the
city
website.
D
If
we're
hearing
you
know
a
fair
amount
of
feedback,
that's
suggesting
something
different
or
in
support
of
we'll
be
sharing
that
with
you
in
the
packet
related
to
the
plan,
and
then
this
was
a
really
helpful
piece
from
councilmember
beijing.
We
were.
We
were
struggling
with
how
to
like.
If
we
were
to
try
to
summarize
this
down
into
like
three
or
four
key
policy
questions
that
we
wanted
you
to
be
thinking
about
as
you're
reading
through
the
memos
as
we're
presenting
information
to
you.
D
What
would
those
be,
and
so
these
are
the
three
policy
questions
we
want
you
to
be
thinking
about
as
you're
reviewing
your
homework
and
as
we're,
giving
presentations
and
I'll
read
these
to
you,
because
I
think
they're
important
and
they
help
frame
the
policy
leading
moving
forward.
That
will
then
address
the
projects
we
come
back
to
you
with
in
the
coming
years.
So
the
first
policy
question:
should
the
city
continue
to
proactively
and
prudently,
invest
in
our
infrastructure
to
address
capacity,
needs
system,
degradation
and
growing
regulatory
requirements
to
prevent
system
failures?
D
Second,
question
should
boise
optimize
the
management
of
resources
to
include
recycled
water
and
then
the
third
question:
should
the
utility
continue
exploring
alternative
methods
of
financing
projects
and
consider
changes
to
our
business
model
and
cost
structure,
and
then
the
the
real
kind
of
rub
question
I
I
think
is
we
would
like
council
to
confirm
that
the
utility
plan
effectively
addresses
the
policy
questions,
assuming
that
that
there
aren't
any
other
policy
questions
that
come
up
between
now
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
and
so
in
summary,
what
we're
asking
for
to
be
very
clear.
D
What
we're
asking
from
council
is
affirmation
on
the
three
key
policy
questions:
investment
in
existing
infrastructure,
pursuit
of
recycled
water
and
continue
to
investigate
funding
alternatives,
and
then
we
are
asking
for
approval
of
the
water
renewal
utility
plan
in
a
couple
of
months,
and
the
approval
implies
that
the
plan
supports
the
policy
direction.
D
I
think
just
as
important
as
to
frame
what
we're
not
asking
you
yet
we're
not
asking
you
to
approve
a
specific
project
yet
and
we're
not
asking
you
to
approve
a
specific
funding
strategy.
Yet,
as
we
started
thinking
about,
how
do
we
start
to
implement
the
plan,
it
became
very
apparent.
We
gotta,
we
have
to
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
policy,
have
the
same
policy
ideas
moving
forward
before
we
can
start
recommending
projects
to
you
all.
D
Similarly,
we're
not
going
to
say
we
want
to
take
on
this
amount
of
debt
and
it'll
result
in
this
impact
on
rates
that's
coming
in
the
next
six
to
12
months,
but
we
do
want
approval
or
affirmation
rather
of
the
three
key
policy
questions
and
then
approval
of
a
plan
I.e.
The
plan
supports.
I
Madam
mayor,
yes
go
ahead.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
hi,
steve.
It's
so
good
to
see
you
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
so
in
the
community
input
that
you've
received
so
far
has
there
been
an
area
of
concern
that
has
risen
to
the
top.
D
Madam
mayor
councilmember
sanchez,
probably
the
the
one
that
has
risen
to
the
top,
is
affordability
to
the
extent
that
folks
are
asking
us
to
do
more,
but
they
want
us
to
balance
that
with
affordability
and
so
another
way
I
interpret
that
is
they
don't
necessarily
want
the
quote:
unquote's
cheapest
option
lowest
cost
option,
but
they
want
value.
So
they
want
us
to
optimize
the
projects.
The
proposed
projects
in
the
future,
balancing
that
with
cost,
and
then
I
we
kind
of
took
that
a
step
further
and
thought
okay.
D
Well,
what
are
the
other
tools
in
our
toolbox
that
can
help
us
address
affordability,
and
that's
where
we'll
be
talking
to
you
all
about
bond
financing
and
maybe
taking
on
debt
to
fund
some
of
these
projects.
I
think
that
was
probably
the
the
the
one
issue
that
was
you
know.
We
want
you
to
do
these
things,
but
you
we
also
need
you
to
be
balancing
affordability
with
those
extra
items
that
we're
asking
you
to
take
on.
I
Thank
you,
steve
one
follow-up
question,
madam
mayor.
I
think
for
folks
who
actually
pay
attention
to
these
issues.
The
one
that
I've
heard
about
is
people
having
concerns
about
recyc
recycling
water.
D
Madam
mayor
councilmember
sanchez,
within
most
of
the
outreach
we
did
whether
it
was
the
surveys
or
whether
it
was
the
advisor
group.
That
was
not
a
major
issue.
It
did
come
up,
though,
within
the
context
of
folks
in
the
northwest
who
were
concerned
about
the
quality
of
recycled
water,
and
so
that
was
where
we
had
that
response
of
we
we
halted
any
further
discussion
of
recycled
water.
We
brought
in
the
global
expert
to
make
sure
we
understood
the
state
of
recycled
water
and
we'll
share
that
information
with
you.
D
So
it
didn't
come
up
broadly
with
the
discussion
with
the
advisor
group
or
focus
groups
or
the
surveys.
It
did
come
up
with
the
number
of
citizens
in
in
the
northwest,
specifically.
D
Madam
mayor
councilmember
sanchez,
their
concern
is
that
there
might
be
emerging
constituents
in
the
water,
even
if
it's
treated
at
the
water
renewal
facility
that
might
still
be
in
the
water
and
impact
say,
for
example,
a
canal,
an
irrigation
canal,
and
so
you
know
we
don't
absolutely
legitimate
concern.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
eyes
wide
open
on
that
and-
and
one
thing
I
think
in
public
works
that
we're
very
proud
of
is
we
rely
on
data.
H
Thank
you
on
the
three
policy
questions
steve:
what
you're
seeking
affirmation
of
investment
in
existing
infrastructure
and,
in
particular
capacity
pursuit
of
recycled
water
and
investigating
alternatives
from?
I
think
those
are
the
right
three
things,
but
I've
been
talking
with
you
about
them,
and
so
for
my
colleagues,
I
think
the
recycled
water
is
a
pretty
easy
one
to
say.
Yes,
we
want
to
keep
this
at
least
on
the
priority
list.
D
Sure,
madam
mayor
council,
member
beijing,
a
good
question
the
when
we
start
thinking
about
capacity
and
replacement
of
aging
infrastructure
in
many
ways,
that's
like
the
meat
and
potatoes
of
what
we
do.
D
We
we
manage
the
system
so
that
we
can
accommodate
new
connections,
whether
they
be
economic
development.
A
new
company
wants
to
come
to
boise,
it's
not
a
good
day
for
the
director
to
tell
the
mayor.
Sorry,
we
can't
have
that
company
here,
because
we
don't
have
the
capacity
at
the
water
renewal
facility,
so
managing
capacity
and
being
smart
about
where
we
put.
That
is,
is
one
of
the
things
that,
like
that's,
that's
meat
and
potatoes
same
thing
on
on
the
aging
infrastructure.
D
If
we
don't
address
so,
for
example,
the
lander
street
facility,
you
know
we've
had
condition
assessments
done,
of
of
the
headworks
and
of
some
of
the
aeration
basins.
D
We
have
concrete
spalling
in
some
of
those
basins
and
that's
starting
to
expose
some
of
the
rebar
that's
starting
to
become
a
safety
issue
that
I
mean
that
that
got
my
hackles
up
on
we've.
I've
seen
some
videos
and
I'm
concerned
about
the
safety
for
staff,
but
beyond.
Just
safety,
which
is
priority,
number
one
for
us.
If,
if
we
have
a
catastrophic
failure
at
the
headworks,
remember
I
talked
about
the
100
percent.
We
we
try
to
provide
100
uptime.
We
won't
be
able
to
use
lander
street,
that's
the
first.
D
You
know
first
process
in
the
treatment
process.
The
head
works.
If
that
collapses,
the
inlet,
sorry,
the
wet
well
in
the
in
the
head-
works
we
we're
hard
down,
so
those
two
are
fundamental
to
what
we
do
as
a
utility
and
so
you'll
see
when
we
share
the
costs
of
those.
D
Those
are
the
two
largest
funding
categories
and
I'll
say
that
on
capacity
in
particular,
in
idaho,
growth
has
to
pay
for
growth,
and
that's
that's
been
something.
That's
been
a
foundational
piece
for
our
system
for
years.
So
when
I
say
that
I
mean
the
current
rate
payers
can't
pay
for
the
the
addition
of
the
capacity
that's
going
to
come
through
connection
fees,
so
we
have
two
ways
that
we
fund
things.
One
is
through
rates.
We
use
that
for
our
operations
and
then
connection
fees.
D
So
if
I'm
a
new
house
or
I'm
a
new
business,
when
I
come
to
town,
I
need
to
buy
my
portion
of
the
water
renewal
facility,
and
so
that
capacity
question
is
one
that
is
very
important
that
we
plan
for.
But
we
have
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
that
growth
pays
for
growth
and
we'll
describe
that
to
you.
How
we
do
that
in
the
memos
and
in
the
recommended
approach.
Is
that
answering
your
question.
H
In
my
mind,
absolutely
should
be
the
first
policy
goal
on
the
list,
because
it
is
what
a
public
works
department
does.
The
alternative
is
business
wants
to
come
to
boise
and
it
can't
come
here.
The
alternative
is
large
swaths
of
our
city
on
the
bench
or
elsewhere,
where
a
bunch
of
infrastructure
went
in
at
the
same
time
suddenly
experienced
catastrophic
failures
that
we
have
to
pay
real
money
immediately
to
fix.
H
You
know,
the
alternative
is
not
having
a
functioning
water
system,
and
so
in
my
mind,
this
policy
objective
is
correct,
but
but
there
are
alternatives
we
can.
We
can
certainly
not
do
it
and
the
reason
it's
on
here
is
because
you
think-
and
I
think
this
is
the
best
thing
for
for
your
team-
to
be
doing.
D
D
But
then
you
start
having
the
regulatory
agencies
get
involved
with
consent,
orders
and
consent
decrees,
which
are
never
pleasant
and
typically
that
then
leads
to
lawsuits.
So
we're
we're
trying
to
be
as
proactive
as
possible
and
prudent
on
the
reinvestment
and
infrastructure
and
also
having
that
capacity
to
be
able
to
meet
needs
going
forward
and
a
lot
of
those
could
be
economic
development
needs.
D
We
want
to
be
able
to
say
yes,
so
yeah
the
outcomes
of
not
investing
can
be
catastrophic
for
communities
and
and
we've
seen
that
in
other
cities
across
the
u.s
and
and
if
it
would
help.
We
can
provide
examples
of
cities
that
are
in
the
middle
of
consent,
orders
and
consent
degrees,
because
they've
had
failing
systems
and
that's
not
a
pleasant
situation.
B
Madam
mayor,
yes,
thank
you
so
steve.
I
guess
both
those
questions.
Kind
of
set
up
the
thing
that
I've
been
thinking
about
and
absolutely
agree
that
investing
in
our
existing
infrastructure,
replacing
our
aging
infrastructure
and
making
sure
that
we
keep
up
with
growth,
is
enormously
important
policy,
not
decision.
It's.
Certainly
what
we've
been
doing,
but
policy
direction
that
we
should
affirm.
B
B
But
I
guess
I
would
prefer
to
be
a
little
more
explicit
about
it
and
perhaps
number
two
could
be
adjusted
somewhat
to
talk
about
innovation
and
risk,
taking
with
a,
for
instance,
about
water,
renewal,
recycled
water
and
affirming
recycled
water,
because
it's
the
one
we
know
about
right
now,
but
until
we
knew
about
it,
we
didn't
know
about
phosphorus,
and
until
we
knew
about
that,
we
couldn't
have
conceived
of
dixie
drain.
But
if
we
hadn't
had
a
culture
that
pointed
toward
the
innovation,
we
wouldn't
have
done
that.
D
Madam
mayor
council,
president,
well
we'll
tweak
number
two:
that's
that's
really
good
feedback,
that's
fair
feedback
and
I
think
you're
right
we
have.
Innovation,
has
been
so
foundational
to
the
to
the
utility,
we'll
think
about
how
to
reword
two
to
better
capture
the
emphasis
on
innovation
and
excellence
that
has
driven
so
many
of
so
many
of
the
previous
decisions.
So
we'll
we'll
take
that
one
on
for
action.
J
Steve
and
council
member
benjit
thanks
for
your
work
that
went
into
this.
It's
obvious
that
you
put
a
lot
of
time
and
thought,
and
I
think
it's
tremendously
exciting
and
also
like
a
council
member
bait
and
said
some
of
these
things
seem
like
real
no-brainers
like
yes,
these
are
absolutely
things
that
we
would
want
to
invest
in.
I
guess
one
thing
that
would
be
helpful
for
me
steve
and
I
don't
need
you
to
do
this
right
now
would
be
to
help
me
and
other
council
members
with
the
policy
things
that
we
could
provide.
J
That
would
be
helpful
as
far
as
addressing
behavioral
issues
for
for
our
citizens
and
how
we,
as
citizens,
can
assist
in
the
work
that
you're
doing
here,
and
I
think
back
about
for
a
while
during
the
beginning
of
this
pandemic,
when
we
were
flushing
everything
that
we
could
think
of
down
the
toilet
and
the
cost
that
ends
up
having
on
your
facilities
and
if
there
aren't
more
things
like
that,
whether
it's
the
products
that
we
use
the
products
that
we
sell
at
our
businesses,
a
variety
of
different
areas.
D
Madam
mayor
council
member,
however,
we
will
do
that.
That's
a
a
good
question,
yeah,
we'll
we'll
think
about
it.
I'll
talk
with
colin
the
team
and
we'll
think
about
areas
where
whether
it's
behavioral
change
like
something
that
comes
to
mind
right
off
the
bat
is
just
water
efficiency
right.
If
we're
using
less
water,
then
we
have
less
water
than
we
need
to
treat
so
we're
pretty
good
about
that
in
boise,
but
maybe
we
can
do
better,
but
I'll
think
about
that.
That's
I
appreciate
that
perspective.
Thank
you.
G
Madam
mayor
go
ahead
steve
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
and
your
team.
I
know
that
this
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
and
it's
not
always
the
sexiest
and
most
exciting
work
that
we
do
with
the
city
is
how
we
carry
water
away
from
our
homes
and
treat
it
to
the
right
level
to
put
back
into
our
river
and
all
of
the
many
mitigation
strategies
that
your
team
does
to
ensure
the
health
of
our
river,
which
I
think
is
so
important.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
doing
all
this
work.
G
G
You
know
something
to
behold
and
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
you
have
my
support
at
least
and
in
continuing
this
work.
So
thank
you
very
much.
D
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
council,
pro
tem.
I
really
appreciate
that
the
the
support
from
council
has
been
great
today.
We
really
appreciate
it
and-
and
we
are
going
to
come
with
some
big
numbers
and
we
don't
take
that
lightly.
So
we
appreciate
the
support
and
we'll
do
our
best
to
try
to
explain
where
everything's
coming
from
and
why
it's
happening.
F
F
I
really
appreciate
from
the
work
and
planning
that's
gone
into
presenting
this
to
council,
because
it
is
indeed
a
multi-year
effort
that
we're
going
to
have
to
undertake,
and
it's
a
and
councilman
bajan
thanks
for
working
with
steve
on
this,
because
it
will
have
like
long-term
impacts
and
benefits,
really
like
good
good
impacts
for
our
residents.
If
we
start
planning
now.