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A
E
D
F
C
Madame
mirror
I'm
going
to
have
a
stain
since
I
was
absent.
Last
week,
all.
A
Right
thanks
clerk,
will
you
call
the
roll.
F
You
Madam
mayor,
we
have
some
important
special
business
tonight.
City
council
doesn't
oversee
very
many
of
the
offices
in
the
city,
but
we
do
oversee
the
office
of
internal
audit
and
effective.
Next
month
we've
got
our
long-time
internal
auditor
is
going
to
retire
and
so
tonight
we
are
pleased
to
a
point
I'm
I'm
pleased
to
move
that
we
appoint
Brian
murcell
as
the
new
director
of
internal
audit,
effective
October,
3rd
2022.
G
F
Yes,
if
I
could,
after
we
take
a
vote,
I'll
have
a
little
bit
something
else
to
do,
but
right
now,
I'd
just
like
to
recognize
how
great
it's
been
to
have
Brian
step
in
over
the
last
few
months
and
get
ready
to
take
over
this
office
and
his
attention
to
detail.
His
Innovation
already
in
the
office
has
been
really
great
to
see
and
just
really
welcome
him.
As
our
new
internal
auditor.
B
A
E
H
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
council,
president
clay
council
members,
I
couldn't
have
asked
for
a
better
Mentor,
the
last
four
and
a
half
years
than
Stephen
I've
learned
a
great
deal
from
him.
I've
also
learned
from
you.
Thank
you
for
all
of
your
Insight
and
feedback
into
our
audit
plans
and
all
of
our
audit
deliverables.
H
F
Now
Madame
mayor,
if
I
could
some
folks
don't
know
too
much
about
the
office
of
internal
audit?
It
was
started
shortly
after
I
got
elected
to
city
council.
I
F
I
had
the
honor
of
hiring
the
person
who
currently
serves,
as
our
internal
auditor
I
knew
Steve
from
years
of
working
together
when
he
was
a
manager
and
I
was
an
advertising
director
at
Payless
drugstore
many
years
ago,
and
so
I
knew
what
a
first
class
person
he
was
I
learned
quickly.
What
a
first-class
auditory
was
and
he's
really
taken
this
office
and
professionalized
it
and
clarified
the
role
of
looking
across
the
city,
not
punitively,
but
proactively,
to
find
things
that
can
be
done
better.
Can
work
better,
make
the
city
more
efficient.
F
D
F
Welcome
and
if
you
want
to
say
a
word,
you're
you're
welcome,
this
is
one
of
the
pieces
of
artwork
in
our
Boise
Chronicles
and
Steve
has
a
framed
version
of
it
for.
J
I
first
got
here
and
late,
November
2003
and
the
city
was
in
sort
of
an
interesting
position
then,
but
over
the
years
we've
enjoyed
tremendous
support
from
the
mayor's
office
from
Council
leadership
and
all
the
council
members
we've
had
the
pleasure
to
work
with,
and
the
city
has
moved
Leaps
and
Bounds
forward.
Organizationally,
culturally
toned
it's
it's
a
wonderful
institution
to
work
for
and
and
I'm
honored
to
have
to
have
been
able
to
be
here
as
long
as
I
have.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
G
Yeah,
just
real
quick
when,
when
I
first
joined,
Council,
I
didn't
know
a
lot
about
this
particular
Department.
It's
not
the
one
that
usually
is
in
the
news.
Unless
something
really
bad
is
happening,
which
hasn't
happened
since
since
I've
been
here
but
I've
gotten
the
I've
gotten
the
memos
I've
gotten
the
updates
on
a
regular
basis,
and
one
of
the
things
that
you
see
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
work,
that's
being
done
behind
the
scenes
and
it's
sort
of
the
gears
that
make
the
city
move.
G
That
You
Don't
See
from
an
outside
perspective,
but
you
can
see
how
much
work
is
being
done
and
how
important
it
is.
I
want
to
thank
both
of
you
for
your
work
here
at
the
city
Steve.
Thank
you
for
being
there
as
I
was
a
young
council
member
and
explaining
to
me,
you
know
what
it
was
that
you
were
doing
in
there
and
your
team
was
doing,
and
then
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
the
way
that
your
team
adjusted
during
the
pandemic
as
well,
and
something
different
and
really
helped
our
community.
G
K
Thank
you,
Steve.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
all
your
years
of
service
I
was
very
happy
to
hear
that
we
shared
something
in
common
both
coming
from
the
Burley
area.
K
I
often
say
really
great
things
come
out
of
Burley,
but
they
do
come
out
of
Burley
and
so
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
so
kind
and
welcoming
to
me
when
I
was
on
the
audit
committee
for
a
short
period
of
time,
the
way
that
you
treat
people
with
dignity
and
respect
and
how
willing
you
were
to
let
folks
feel
comfortable
in
knowing
that
they
don't
know
everything,
and
you
were
very
gracious
in
helping
me
to
understand
the
concept.
So
thank
you
so
much
and
all
the
best.
C
Madame
mayor,
yes,
Steve
I
just
want
to
Echo
my
praise
and
thanks
to
you,
you
know,
I'm,
the
newest
member
of
the
council
and
also
on
the
audit
committee.
I
see
all
of
the
work
that
you
do
and,
like
Jimmy
said,
there's
a
lot
that
goes
underneath
it.
We
just
see
the
the
reports
and
I
I
know
that
you've
done
just
a
tremendous
job
and
I
appreciate
all
the
mentoring.
C
A
And
just
to
wrap
things
up,
I'm
going
to
say
thanks
as
well.
It
was
a
pleasure
working
with
you
when
I
was
on
the
council
on
the
audit
committee
and,
of
course,
knowing
as
I've,
been
mayor
in
this
office
that
you're
working
with
our
office
and
really
making
sure
that
we
continue
the
legacy
of
having
an
office
of
audit
to
make
sure
that
we're
sufficiently
and
then
cleanly
as
possible
running
our
finances.
So
really
appreciate
the
contributions
you
made.
A
It
has
been
a
while,
and
so
you
have
a
well-deserved
retirement
at
this
point
and
I
really
hope
that
you
enjoy
the
next
chapter.
Foreign.
F
A
With
that
I'm
going
to
move
us
into
the
consent
agenda,
all
items
with
an
asterisk
are
considered
to
be
routine
by
the
council
and
will
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
There's
no
separate
discussion
on
these
items
unless
a
council,
member
or
citizen
so
requests,
in
which
case
the
item
will
be
removed
from
the
general
order
of
business
and
considered
in
its
normal
sequence.
F
F
E
A
D
L
Members
of
council,
my
name
is
Missy
grotehouse
I'm,
the
purchasing
agent
for
the
city
I'm
here
this
evening
to
request
an
award
decision
for
rfp22456
classification
study
for
the
Department
of
Human
Resources.
Two
proposers
have
significant
Local
Economic
presence.
However,
they
were
not
the
highest
ranked
proposers
I'm
here
to
stand
for
any
questions
you
may
have
in
regard
to
the
process,
and
we
have
Alexander
Wiley
here
from
the
Department
of
Human
Resources
to
address
any
Project
Specific
questions.
F
F
D
F
With
that,
if
there
are
no
other
questions,
I
would
move
that
we
accept
the
recommendation
of
the
class
for
the
RFP
22
456
classification
study
of
the
scoring
panel
and
award
the
RFP
to
MGT
of
American
Consulting.
A
F
F
Madam
mayor
I,
moved
at
all
rules
of
the
council.
Interfering
with
the
immediate
consideration
of
ORD
4522
be
suspended
that
the
portions
of
Idaho
code
5902,
requiring
an
ordinance
to
be
read
on
three
different
days
twice
by
title
and
once
in
full,
be
dispensed
with
and
that
the
records
show
it
has
been
read
for
the
third.
B
E
B
D
B
All
in
favor
motion
carries
ord-45-22
an
ordinance
car
21-0037
for
property,
located
at
5121
West
Gowen
Road,
amending
zoning
classifications
of
the
city
of
Boise
City
to
change
the
classification
of
real
property,
particularly
described
in
section
one
of
this
ordinance
and
adjacent
rights
of
way
from
A-1
to
m-1d.
Setting
forth
A
Reason
statement
in
supports
the
zone
change
in
providing
an
effective
date.
A
E
A
Thank
you
now
we'll
move
into
new
business.
We
have
one
subdivision
on
the
agenda
this
evening.
Suv
22-31,
so
David
is
Mosher,
is
virtual,
so
Crystal's
here
Crystal.
Are
you
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
jump
in
now
or
is
David
still
going
to.
A
Case
you
have
to
switch
okay,
great
and
then
I
don't
see
Doug
Russell,
oh
my
gosh,
hey
there,
I
didn't
see
you
back.
There
sorry
good
to
see
you
all
right,
you're
in
person,
so
we'll
ask
if
you're
in
agreement
with
terms
and
conditions
or
if
there's
anything
else,
you
need
to
add
is
Southwest
Ada,
County
Alliance
here
anyone
online
anyone
in
the
public
here
for
this
one
yeah
great.
A
N
A
A
N
This
is
a
straight
subdivision
and
it
complies
with
all
the
requirements
of
the
RMB
zone
for
dimensional
standards
and
lot
sizes.
There
is
a
public
Street
proposed
that
will
connect
back
into
monitor
way,
as
you
can
see
from
the
aerial
photograph,
the
site
was
is
primarily
residential
in
nature
and
from
the
site
plan.
Here.
N
I
would
note
that
the
site
does,
as
previously
mentioned,
does
comply
with
all
dimension
of
standards
of
this,
of
the
r
b
Zone,
with
a
density
of
3.6
units,
an
acre
which
is
compatible
and
similar
to
the
surrounding
area.
The
main
node
or
the
main
thing
I
would
note
on
this-
is
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
multi-use
path
along
the
east
side
of
the
property
12
foot
wide
in
an
unimproved
wider
right
away.
N
In
addition
to
this,
the
subject,
the
subdivision
is
providing
detached,
sidewalks
and
Landscape
buffers
throughout
the
entire
project.
With
with
Street
trees,
the
planning
team
did
receive
several
letters
from
the
neighbors
expressing
concerns
about
traffic
impacts.
The
neighbors
do
not
want
the
submission
to
take
access
from
monitor
way.
N
They
contend
that
the
project
design,
if
it
takes
access
from
this
road,
then
the
majority
of
the
traffic
will
use
Raleigh
Street
and
that
Holland
Drive
to
get
back
out
to
Five
Mile
instead
of
Carolina
to
the
South
to
address
this
I
would
just
note
that
achd
did
not
express
any
objections
to
the
project
and,
given
the
amount
of
traffic
there
is
capacity
on
these
local
streets.
Jason
local
streets
support
the
project.
N
F
And
mirror
just
just
a
couple,
so
David
one
thing
I
would
note
is
that
the
entrance
onto
Hallandale
does
have
extended
curbs,
which
should
one
would
guess,
encourage
at
least
slow
people
down
as
they
access
that
if
they
do
decide
to
use
Hollandale,
but
I
would
guess
would
also
help
discourage
use
of
it
and
would
would
in
fact
encourage
the
drivers
to
go
south
to
the
other
connection.
Did
you?
It
was
as
I
understand
that
really
didn't
come
up,
but
that's
a
feature
that
we
might
require.
N
Remembers
the
council,
that
is,
that
is
corrected
it.
It
is
that
did
not
come
up
at
the
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
F
Thank
you.
The
other
question
I
have
is
to
ensure
that
the
oh
I'm,
sorry
I
lost
my
my
place
here
and
I
can't
remember
exactly
the
name
of
the
street
on
the
south
Carolina
yeah.
D
F
You
that,
as
it
stubs
into
the
property
to
the
East
when
when
and
if
that
property
redevelops
will
we
require
a
roadway
as
it's
likely
that
that
lot
will
only
re
redevelop
as
a
single
lot
or
it's
possible.
Or
do
we
have
support
from
achd
to
purchase
enough
right
away
to
extend
that
roadway?
If
that
were
to
happen.
N
Members
of
council
I
think
you're
talking
about
Malad
Street,
where
it
stubs
to
the
east.
Within
the
development
we
subbed
it
there
with
the
intention
that
the
area
could
possibly
develop
in
a
larger
sense.
You
are
correct
that
you
know
if
that
it
is
a
single
lot.
So
if
it
develops
as
a
single
family
house,
then
you
know
we
don't
have
any
say
I.
We
have
not
reached
out
to
echd
about
purchasing
this
yet
or
having
them.
F
Okay,
if
we
approve
this
tonight,
it
seems
like
it's
worthy
to
have
that
discussion
now,
so
that
they're
not
surprised
by
it
at
some
later
date.
Thank
you
look.
O
O
O
This
is
a
copy
of
the
preliminary
plaid
as
we
originally
submitted
the
application
and
as
we
presented
to
Boise
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission,
and
this
is
a
rendering
of
the
same.
The
only
reason
I
showed
this
to
you
is
because
I
do
have
a
couple
of
minor
modifications
that
I
want
to
point
out
to
you
as
we
move
through
the
program
here.
What's.
O
So
here
is
the
revised
preliminary
plot
that
we're
presenting
to
you
tonight
only
a
few
tweaks
on
the
plat
overall,
we're
still
at
48
single
family
lots.
We
meet
all
the
dimensional
and
design
requirements
of
the
Boise
city
code
as
it
relates
to
the
r1b
zone,
the
home,
Styles,
the
home
sizes
and
the
styles
are
going
to
be
consistent
with
the
surrounding
homes
in
the
area
and
on
this
plan.
What
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
on
the
East
along
Deborah
Street.
We
created
a
what
I'm
going
to
refer
to
as
a
linear
Park.
O
One
of
the
comments
that
we
got
early
on
from
some
of
the
public
was
that
we
weren't
really
providing
any
park
amenities
and
so
I'll
show
you
an
enlargement
of
it
here,
a
little
bit
later
in
the
slideshow.
But
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
linear
Park
and
the
public
Plaza
space
that
we
are
going
to
be
implementing,
and
then
we
also
added
some
traffic
calming
that
was
requested
by
achd
along
Malad
Street,
which
is
the
Southern
Street
within
our
development.
O
O
So,
as
staff
mentioned,
probably
the
biggest
amount
of
testimony
that
we
got
in
opposition
to
our
project
was
in
relation
to
traffic
I.
Think
councilmember
Clegg
really
did
point
out
some
good
things
and
that
we
do
have
some
narrowing
and
constriction
that
at
Raleigh
across
the
street
from
us
we
had
some
early
meetings
with
achd
and
we
did
discuss
with
them.
O
You
know
kind
of
how
the
road
alignments
would
work
best
here
and
we
actually
even
tried
to
push
Raleigh
Street
a
little
bit
further
north
on
this,
drawing
to
and
kind
of
at
the
maximum
offset.
That
achd
allows
just
to
kind
of
generate
some
lot
of
depth
that
we
are
looking
for,
but
achd
really
kind
of
frowned
upon
that,
and
so
we
went
for
the
alignment
with
Raleigh.
O
Ultimately,
we
liked
this
configuration
because
it
does
provide
two
accesses
into
our
project
for
emergency
vehicles
if
we
eliminated
the
Raleigh
entry,
that
would
definitely
kind
of
create
some
challenges
for
us
on
that
front,
and
so
this
this
has
been
the
biggest
point
of
contention
through
our
discussions.
If
you
look
at
this,
let's
see
here
running
two
slideshows
here.
O
Yes,
if
you
look
at
this
map-
and
you
can
see
that
we
have
our
site
right
here-
it
is
true
that
our
road
lines
up
right
here
and
that
probably
the
north
half
of
this
neighborhood
may
be
persuaded
to
meander
through
Raleigh
and
down
Holland
over
to
Five
Mile
Road,
but
Charleston
or
Carolina
plays
Carolina.
O
There
achd
identified
that
this
project
is
going
to
create
about
46
additional
trips
during
peak
hour,
and
so,
if
we
did
a
quick
guesstimate
and
said
that
one-third
of
of
the
Neighbors
in
this
we're
going
to
you
know
use
that
Holland
drought
during
peak
hour
it'd
be
approximately
16
additional
cars.
O
So
we
definitely
heard
what
the
neighbors
said
in
the
hearing.
We
understand
that
you
know
it's.
You
know
it's
a
typical
neighborhood
street.
It
has
a
lot
of
parking
on
it
and
a
lot
of
interaction
and
a
lot
of
in
and
out
of
driveways
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
really
the
amount
of
traffic
that
we're
increased,
that
we
would
be
increasing
on
that
street
is
is
negligible
and
we
do
expect
most
everything
to
use
the
the
southern
route.
O
So
I'm
hopeful
that
achd's
report
and
our
presentation
has
kind
of
bringing
brought
that
point
home
with
with
Council
and
that
you
have
a
full
understanding
of
it.
But
I'm
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
I
can
on
that
topic,
because
it
did
seem
to
kind
of
be
the
biggest
point
of
contention
with
the
neighbors,
despite
the
fact
that
it
does
meet
all
the
achd
policy
and
doesn't
really
create
any
sort
of
additional
traffic
burdens.
O
I
should
put
a
couple
of
Clips
in
here
of
ACH
day
achd
policy
review.
I
won't
bore
you
with
these
other
than
to
say
that
they
were
very
keen
on
the
locations
that
we
put
those
streets
and
we
met
their
distances
and
in
fact
they
gave
us
some
distinct
language.
On
on
the
distances
we
needed
to
meet
in
the
conditions
of
approval,
this
is
a
color
rendering
of
our
project
same
site
plan
that
you
saw
for
the
preliminary
plot.
O
O
This
is
an
enlargement
of
the
linear
Park
that
we're
proposing
along
Deborah
Avenue.
You
can
see
in
this
location
here
we
are
proposing
a
kind
of
a
patio
seating
Plaza
with
tables
and
chairs,
surrounded
by
a
nice
planting
scheme.
This
thing
is
right
at
about
35
feet
wide
from
the
fence
line
to
the
walkway
and
so
kind
of
creates
a
nice
place
to
play
a
little
ball
or
frisbee
there,
and
then
this
highlighter
I
showed
you
earlier,
but
this
highlighted
line
here
is
the
regional
pathway.
O
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
it
does.
It
appears
on
this,
drawing
that
this
Eastern
pathway
is
off
our
property.
Indeed,
it
is
off
of
our
property,
but
it
is
located
within
right
of
way
that
achd
has
control
of,
and
so
this
was
identified
on
Boise's
map
as
one
of
the
regional
Pathways,
and
then
we
just
brought
the
the
rest
of
it
out
to
Malad
Street
and
then
out
to
Carolina
Drive.
O
O
They
have
implemented
some
of
these
models
throughout
the
valley.
There's
a
recent
development
that
they
opened
up
in
star.
That
has
some
similar
architecture
and
it's
it's
real
nice
stuff,
a
lot
of
amenities
in
the
in
the
neighborhood,
that's
much
larger
than
this
one,
but
a
very
nice
architectural
style
and
materials
foreign,
so
in
closing,
I
would
just
respectfully
request
that
city
council
consider
the
presentation
that
we've
brought
to
you
tonight
that
you
would
support
our
project
for
approval.
We
feel
like
that.
O
Well,
we're
solid
that
we're
being
that
we're
developing
for
the
r1b
Zone
requirements.
It's
compatible
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
O
The
proposed
preliminary
plaque
conforms
to
the
dimensional
standards
of
the
r-1b
zone
and
we're
complying
with
the
comprehensive
plan
for
this
area.
The
project
proposes
practical
and
Sound
Solutions
for
transportation.
It
has
good
emergency
access
and
we're
providing
for
future
connectivity
to
the
east,
which
I
think
is,
is
a
good
value.
We
understand
that
that
property
may
not
redevelop
it
in
the
off
chance
that
it
does.
We've
got
the
connectivity
there
and
then
we
feel
like
this
is
just
good.
O
Infield
development
in
closing
I'll
mention
I
know
it
might
get
brought
up
by
the
neighbors
and
I
did
see
a
recent
letter.
There
was
some
comments
about
the
fact
that
this
used
to
be
a
Boise
school
district
site
that
is
true,
Boise
school
district
last
year,
determined
that
this
was
Surplus
ground
and
they
did
not
need
it
to
provide
the
services
they
needed
in
this
area,
and
so
they
put
it
up
for
auction
per
state
code.
O
My
client
bought
it,
and
you
know
we
moved
forward
with
this
application,
so
it
was
a
school
district
property.
O
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
point
out
also
that
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
elementary
school
was
probably
a
much
more
intense
use
and
definitely
has
much
more
intense
peak
hours
than
this
development
will
so
I
think
that's
a
plus
for
the
neighborhood
and
then
the
last
comment
that
we
heard
is
that
we
heard
some
people
questioning
the
fact
that
my
client
intends
to
plant
this
project
and
rent
the
homes
they
intend
to
maintain
ownership
and
rent
them.
That
is
a
true
statement,
not
making
any
qualms
about
it.
O
I
think
people
were
concerned
about
that
because
they
felt
like
there
was
going
to
be
high
turnover
or
things
of
that
nature.
The
one
thing
that
I
want
to
mention
about
my
client
and
their
process
in
this
game
is
first
of
all,
they
did
not
allow
any
short-term
leases.
Everything's
got
to
be
a
year
or
more,
they
do
extensive
background
checks,
including
criminal
background
checks
and
financial
background
checks
when
they're
doing
going
through
their
candidates
for
for
rental,
and
they
also
do
all
of
the
maintenance
of
the
buildings
and
of
the
site
all
the
time.
O
A
Got
one
I'm
just
curious,
not
that
it
has
I've
factor
into
the
decision.
The
you
reference
these
homes
we're
in
star
two.
Is
it
the
same
model
we're
there
built
and
held
for
rentals.
O
I
do
not
know
the
exact
numbers
on
that.
What
I
do
know
is
that
they
have
a.
They
have
found
a
certain
niche
of
of
renter
folks
who
maybe
are
living
in
an
area
temporarily
for
a
few
years,
or
you
know
whatever
it
may
be.
Maybe
people
that
just
cashed
in
on
some
equity
and
are
kind
of
waiting
for
the
market
to
you
know
soften.
O
You
know
things
of
that
nature,
just
families
who
maybe
are
having
struggles
with
down
payments
and
interest
payments,
and
so
I,
don't
know
the
exact
numbers,
but
I
I
think
that
I'm
in
the
ballpark,
when
I
guess
that
they're
going
to
be
three
to
four
thousand
a
month
in
rent
cost.
Thank.
K
F
Adam
mayor
Doug,
a
couple
of
questions:
how
wide
are
your
planting
strips
going
to
be
and
what
size
trees
are
you
proposing
for
the
street
trees.
O
F
Tree
type,
would
you
consider
class
three?
They
have
substantially
more
canopy
cover
at
maturity,
and
eight
foot
is
very
sufficient
for
them.
O
I
think
we
can
could
consider
that
I
think
that
when
we
look
at
those
class
of
trees,
I
think
we
definitely
look
are
looking
at
species
that
may
perform
a
little
slower.
O
You
know,
may
not
perform
and
grow
as
quickly.
To
you
know,
a
moderate
canopy
is
maybe
some
of
the
maples
that
we
might
specify,
but
I
think
we're
more
than
happy
to
explore
that,
and
if
that's
a
something
the
city
would
like
to
see,
we
could
do
that
or
maybe
even
just
mix
in
two
class
three
trees
as
part
of
our
plant
mix.
Yeah.
F
Thank
you,
I
I,
appreciate
that
and
encourage
you
to
talk
to
our
City
Arborist
who's
been
experimenting
with
some
class
threes
that
are
a
little
bit
faster
growing
and
you
might
find,
will
work
yeah.
My
other
question
on
Raleigh.
Would
you
consider
matching
the
traffic
calming
that's
across
the
street
with
the
curb
extensions
I
think
that
would
further
discourage
people
from
going
clear
through
that
would
also
slow
folks
down
a
long
monitor
there
I
think.
O
I
think
I
can
speak
for
my
client
and
say
that
we
would
absolutely
be
open
to
that
idea.
I
think
it
makes
good
sense.
The
one
caveat
is
I
got
to
run
this
thing
back
through
achd
and
I.
Guess.
I
would
just
request
that
if,
for
some
reason
they
came
back
with
a
reason
that
said
hey,
we
can't
let
you
do
this
and
here's.
Why
and
sure.
O
C
Meta
mayor,
yes,
go
ahead,
we
did
get
a
lot
of
mail
on
this,
particularly
about
the
traffic
and,
given
that
it's
an
infill
development
are
there
any
other
options
like
councilwoman
Clague
suggested
that
we
could
do
to
encourage
a
traffic
pattern
that
would
be
more
amiable
for
the
Neighbors.
Is
there
anything
else
that
we
could
do
on
this?
That
you
haven't
already
suggested.
O
About
that,
though,
that's
a
good
question
and,
as
you
were
saying
it
I
was
contemplating
you
know
we
could
put
a
center
barrier
that
kept
people
from
going
straight
across
and
I
mean
I.
Don't
know
how
it
would
look
as
I
stand
here
tonight,
but
but
again,
I
would
need
achd
to
weigh
in
on
that
and
I'm,
not
sure
they
would
be
super
excited
about
it
in
this
case,
because
we're
not
really
creating
traffic
challenges,
we're
just
kind
of
doing
it.
O
A
P
Mayor
and
members
of
the
council
I'm
here
to
request
that
this
development
be
declined
and
I
have
three
minutes
right.
All
right,
so
I'll
give
my
four
reasons
to
ask
for
declared
to
ask
for
it
to
be
declined.
The
first
is
predictable
development,
I'm
a
homeowner
in
the
area
for
11
years,
when
we
bought
into
that
area.
P
One
of
the
major
reasons
we
did
so
was
that
we
thought
there
would
be
a
school
there
having
a
school
nearby
having
safe
routes
to
schools
is
very
important
for
almost
anyone
and
sure
there
may
be
more
traffic,
but
that
is
very
much
counterbalanced
by
the
convenience
of
having
a
school
right
in
your
area
that
you
can
walk
to.
P
So
this
was
definitely
not
predictable
from
our
perspective
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
key
development
practices
is
to
try
to
be
predictable,
so
I
would
I
would
note
that
the
second
is
the
cohesion
of
the
neighborhood
sure
these
Lots
may
be
approximately
the
same
size
they're,
actually
not
they're,
actually
quite
a
bit
smaller
compared
to
the
ones
that
are
there
now
in
both
their
their
size
and
the
amount
of
space.
P
That's
available
around
the
Lots,
but
the
fact
that
they
will
be
rentals
does
change
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
considerably.
Homeowners
have
a
different
stake
in
the
neighborhood.
They
will
be
more
likely
to
have
input
into
our
HOAs,
so
be
more
likely
to
have
input
into
our
yard
sales,
and
just
the
other
things
that
we
have
as
part
of
a
neighborhood
renders
are
not
likely
to
have
that.
So
I
think
that
the
cohesion
of
the
neighborhood
will
be
hurt
by
having
this
be
rentals.
P
The
second
is
access
to
open
space,
we're
in
South
Boise
when
we
saw
the
map
ever
before,
we've
got
molinar
and
that's
about
it.
If
you
want
open
Green
Space
you
get
on
the
freeway
and
you
drive
downtown,
that's
really
a
detriment
to
the
area,
and
we
know
how
much
green
space
is
good
for
people's
well-being.
It's
good
for
people's
sanity,
it's
good
for
people's
quality
of
life
and
sure
we
may
not
have
enough
money
to
turn
this
into
a
park,
but
even
as
an
empty
lot.
E
P
In
Winter
cross
country
skiing,
through
the
lot
there's
a
lot
of
things
we
can
do
with
it
now
without
that
we're
looking
at
a
long
distance
trip
to
get
to
any
kind
of
Green
Space.
Lastly,
I'll
put
local
investment
right.
We
want
to
encourage
local
investment
and
money
getting
back
into
our
economy.
If
the
money
goes
to
a
rental
company
that
is
based
in
California
out
of
state,
that
money
doesn't
come
back
into
our
economy,
it
goes
out.
P
Q
I
agree
with
most
things,
you've
been
doing
for
Boise
and
I
appreciate
it,
but
I
have
come
here
because
I'm
totally
disagree
with
this
project
and
I'm
a
hundred
percent
against
dense
housing
and
I
feel
this
is
dense
housing
they
have
not
put
in
the
nearly
what
our
subdivision
is
surrounded
by
where
we
have
so
much
common
area.
We
have
like
two
or
three
parks
and
we
just
have
an
enormous
amount
of
space,
and
they
just
put
in
a
little
lines
of
here.
Q
You
know
of
you
know
open
space
where
they
can
maybe
throw
a
frisbee
or
something
I,
don't
know,
but
anyway
I
it
seems.
Boise
is
being
sold
to
the
highest
bidder
to
the
outside,
of
the
state
of
bitter
and
Boise
City
Zone
caters
to
them
considered
tonight
and
take
a
pause
on
what
is
right
for
Boise
residents
and
see
what
they
want.
Q
R
Neighborhood,
okay,
great
my
name-
is
Marissa
k3279
South,
Cloverdale,
Road
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Southwest
data,
County
Alliance,
neighborhood
association
and
I,
know
that
the
residents
of
this
of
Carolina
Place
are
unhappy
that
the
school
district
sold
this
site
and
I
don't
know
what
sort
of
Outreach
they
did
with
the
community
before
that
they
made
that
decision.
But
you
know
it's.
R
Never
it's
never
good
to
be
surprised
by
something
and
the
first
inkling
you
have
of
it
is
when
you,
when
you
have
a
neighborhood
meeting
to
go
to
our
recommendations
for
this,
the
subdivision
were
primarily
having
to
do
with
the
pathway
on
the
North
Northeast
section
of
the
development
at
the
corner,
where
there's
that
shared
driveway
between
Lots
in
the
site-specific
conditions
of
approval
it
talks
about,
if,
if
one
of
the
Lots
is
going
to
take
access
from
that,
that
there
be
a
five
foot
wide
landscape
buffer,
and
we
were
actually
hoping
that,
whether
or
not
that
lot
takes
access
from
that
driveway
that
there
could
be
a
five
foot,
wide
pathway
that
connects
to
the
multi-use
pathway.
R
And
the
reason
for
that
is
because
the
without
two
connections
we're
just
going
to
have
a
dead
end
for
who
knows
how
long
and
that
would
allow
people
to
actually
use
that
space
a
little
bit
quicker.
Rather.
R
For
the
the
subdivisions
surrounding
them
to
develop,
and-
and
so
if
that
were
something
that
could
happen,
you
know
that
that
path,
that
five
foot
wide
pathway
would
need
to
be
placed
in
the
public
easement
and
preferably
somehow
differentiated
from
the
actual
driveway,
so
that
the
houses
right
there
don't
think
it
is
just
part
of
theirs
and
try
to
keep
people
off
of
it.
And
then
the
other
issue
is.
F
So
Marissa
just
to
be
clear:
you're
looking
at
the
20-foot
shared
driveway
or
what's
labeled
20-foot
shared
driveway
and
asking
that
some
portion
of
that
be
delineated
as
a
pathway
so
that
it
isn't
all
used
by
cars.
R
R
I
would
like
to
see
access
to
that
pathway
just
so
that
people
can
use
that
that
New,
Path,
otherwise
they're
otherwise
I,
don't
think
people
will
really
go
up
that
way.
You
know
they'll
just
walk
up
and
then
have
to
turn
around
walk
down.
It'd
be
much
nicer
if
they
could
actually
have
some
connectivity
through
their
neighborhood.
A
A
All
right,
I
am
going
to
have
the
applicant
come
back
up.
E
O
All
right,
Madam,
mayor
members
of
the
council,
thank
you
appreciate
the
testimony
that
we
just
received,
especially
the
input
from
Southwest
Ada,
County,
Alliance,
I,
guess
just
to
cover
some
of
those
comments.
You
know
I
do
understand.
There
was
going
to
be
a
school
there.
O
School
District
definitely
decided
they
didn't
need
this
property
any
longer
to
provide
service
to
their
patrons
in
this
area
and
I
felt
you
know,
I,
don't
speak
for
the
school
district
and
I'm
not
in
any
way,
but
I
presume
that
they
liquidated
this
property
and
they
used
those
funds
to
do
other
things
for
Education
within
the
school
district,
and
you
know
it
seems
like
an
appropriate
approach
to
me.
I,
don't
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge.
They
didn't
break
any
rules
and
they
they
liquidated
it
properly.
O
I,
don't
know
what
kind
of
public
Outreach
was
done
prior
to
that,
but
I
do
know
there
was
public
noticing
associated
with
it.
If
you
want
to
take
that
for
what
it's
worth,
but
I
think
they
did
at
least
the
bare
minimum.
As
far
as
notification
goes,
I
would
like
to
mention
that,
as
far
as
common
space
in
our
subdivision,
we
did
start
out
with
really
not
a
whole
lot.
O
It
was
really
just
buffers
and
kind
of
landscaping
and
really
that
met
the
intent
of
the
ordinance
and
my
client
heard
the
comments
about
us
not
really
having
any
sort
of
amenity
outside
in
this
subdivision,
and
so
we
we
really
worked
hard
to
reduce
some
lot
sizes
and
and
get
this
this
linear
Park
in
on
the
east
or
on
the
west
side
of
Deborah
Avenue
and
so,
and
that
that
square
footage
definitely
exceeds
you
know.
O
Code
requirements
and
I
think
does
provide
a
nice
Gathering
space
for
the
neighborhood,
and
so
we
did
I
think
we
are.
You
know
doing
what
we
need
to
do
there
in
regards
to
the
American
dream
comment.
I
mean
I,
get
that
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
that
have
home
buying
as
one
of
their
American
Dreams.
You
know
I'm.
O
Definitely
one
of
them
that
have
taken
that
route,
but
I
do
know
that
we
do
have
changing
housing
market
and
different
types
of
opportunities,
for
folks
is
definitely
something
that
people
are
interested
in
people
I.
Think
when
they're
looking
for
housing
or
looking
for
variety
and
to
be
able
to
rent
houses
that
are
nice
like
this,
you
know
not
have
to
commit
your
whole
life
to
them,
maybe
be
able
to
stay
in
them
for
a
few
years.
O
Imagine
that
the
subdivision,
this
neighborhood
will
look
consistent
and
you
know
better
than
maybe
other
parts
of
the
neighborhood
just
because
it's
getting
done
all
at
the
same
time
on
a
regular
basis.
O
In
regards
to
Southwest
state
of
County
alliances,
comment
about
that
connection
up
there
in
theory,
I'm
pretty
open
to
that
I'm,
definitely
interested
to
look
at
it
kind
of
spatially.
You
know
sit
down
at
the
scale
Rule
and
see
how
that
might
sort
out,
but
I
think
that
that's
something
that
we
potentially
can
work
in
and
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea,
and
so,
if
that's
something
that
that
we
can
do,
we'd
definitely
give
it.
The
old
College,
try
and
then
I
need
to
correct
myself
in
regards
to
rents.
O
I
verified
with
my
client
and
I
shot
way
high,
which
I
think
is
a
good
thing,
but
the
rents
for
these
homes
there's
going
to
be
ranging
from
22
to
2600
a
month
so
much
lower
than
what
not
much
but
a
little
bit
lower
than
what
I
suggested
and
I
think
that
kind
of
covers.
All
of
the
rebuttal
comments
that
we
had
again.
O
We
feel
like
this
is
a
really
good
infill
project
that
really
kind
of
meets
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
and
we
would
just
definitely
appreciate
any
approval
or
that
we
can
get
from
you
guys
tonight.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
G
Better
Mary
I
do
think
it
is
worth
looking
into
that
connection
on
that
on
the
driveway
there.
We
don't
know
when
it's
going
to
redevelop,
but
we
hope
the
people
in
this
neighborhood
who
are
living
in
those
houses,
as
well
as
the
surrounding
Neighborhood
use
those
Pathways
as
well
and
so
I
think
it
is
worth
the
college.
G
Try
that
you
talked
about
and
making
sure
that
we
are
looking
and
you
know
pulling
out
the
the
rulers
and
the
scales
and
seeing
what
we
can
do
to
to
make
sure
that
that
happens
and
I
do
appreciate
that
you,
you
know,
have
taken
this
seriously
as
far
as
the
multi-use
pathway.
It's
it's
great
to
see
the
master
plan
sort
of
working
in
this
way
and
for
some
of
that
stuff
to
be
built
out.
G
I
also
do
appreciate
the
you
know:
the
the
American
dream
being
open
to
renters
as
well
a
lot
of
people
that
I
work
with
in
the
community
that
arrived
as
refugees
and
they
rent
their
houses
and
they're
really
living
the
American
dream,
and
they
really
love
being
here
right
now.
So
I
think
there's
a
variety
of
different
needs
that
are
out
there
for
a
variety
of
different
people.
A
A
G
So,
just
just
a
couple
of
questions
there,
so
this
this
isn't
a
reason.
This
is
already
Zone
this
area
this
way,
and
so
the
houses
that
they're
putting
on
they're
not
asking
for
any
sort
of
exemptions
or
anything
like
that
by
right.
They
can
build
this.
Many
houses
in
this
lot
am
I.
Getting
that
correct.
G
And
then
another
follow-up
question
there.
There
were
some
questions
as
far
as
the
open
space
in
the
public
space
completely
agree.
It's
nice
to
have
as
much
open
space
as
possible
if
I'm,
a
neighbor
I
would
love
to
have
this
be
a
park
as
well.
Everybody
wants
to
be
close
to
a
park
and
I
think
that
we
want
to
try
to
get
people
as
close
to
Parks,
as
we
can.
Is
there
any
requirement
as
far
as
the
linear
Park,
that
they
have
there
or
is
the
linear
Park
that
they've
added
to
this?
N
A
F
Madam
mayor
I'm,
prepared
to
make
a
motion
I
have
a
couple
of
things
to
say:
afterward
if
I
get
a
second
I
would
move
approval
of
the
monitor
subdivision,
SUV
22-31
Boise
City
preliminary
Platt
at
2482,
South
Monitor
way
with
direction
to
the
applicant
and
staff
to
consider
narrow
radius,
curb
extensions
at
Raleigh
and
monitor
larger
tree
sizes
in
the
tree
Lawns,
and
a
pathway
connection
on
the
shared
use
driveway
at
the
northwest
corner
or
northeast
corner.
F
D
F
A
Oh
wait
and
I
just
want
to
check
council
member
will
it's
your
hand
is
raised.
Is
that
for
discussion?
Oh.
F
F
Thank
you.
You
know.
I
certainly
understand
the
residents,
concerns
about
this
and
would
say
that,
to
be
honest,
I
didn't
know.
The
school
district
had
disposed
of
this
property
I
do
think
there
might
have
been
some
possibilities
had
had
some
of
us
known
that
and
had
a
discussion
earlier,
but
at
this
point
it
was
legally
disposed
of.
It
was
disposed
of
in
a
way
that
allows
a
development
like
this
by
right.
F
The
developer
has
proposed
some
things
that
we
often
don't
see
in
developments
like
this,
including
the
street
trees
and
the
pathway
connection
along
the
southern
roadway
along
Malad,
and
you
know,
unfortunately,
we
don't
get
a
say
in
how
property
is
taken
care
of
afterwards
other
than
whether
or
not
it
meets
code.
In
other
words,
is
it
rented
is
it
sold?
Is
it
whatever
and
frankly,
I?
Don't
think
you'd
want
the
government
being
able
to
say
you
have
to
rent
your
property
or
you
have
to
sell
your
property
and
so
I.
F
I
would
note
that,
often
when
developments
are
built
with
intent
to
hold
them
and
rent
them
for
a
time
at
the
end
of
the
amortization
period,
they
often
do
go
up
for
sale.
So
it
doesn't
mean
that
these
will
always
be
rental
houses
forever.
It
does
mean
that
there
will
be
48
houses
there
that
we
wouldn't
have
otherwise
in
a
market
that
desperately
needs
some
housing.
So
you
know
I
I,
don't
have
any
control
over
the.
What
what
happened
prior
to
this
Development
coming
to
us?
F
What
I
do
have
control
over
is
whether
it
meets
our
code
requirements
or
not.
It
does,
and
with
that
I'm
in
support
of
approving
it.
D
K
You,
madam
mayor
I,
I
too,
wish
that
there
had
been
another
opportunity
when
this
piece
of
property
came
up
for
sale.
I
do
worry
about
the
way
investors
have
changed
the
housing
landscape
for
everyone,
especially
renters
I,
think
a
lot
of
us
would
like
to
be
homeowners.
In
fact,
I
was
chatting
earlier
with
councilman
Hallie
Burton
earlier
today.
Talking
about
how
naive
I
was
when
I
ran
for
office.
Five
years
ago,
I
I
lost
my
home
to
foreclosure
in
2010.,
and
I.
K
Foolishly
didn't
realize
that
every
week
I
would
have
to
sit
here
and
listen
to
people
talk
about
housing
and
it
would
be
the
reopening
of
a
wound
because
I
had
blocked
it
out.
I'd
forgotten,
I'd
ever
owned
a
house
because
it
was
too
painful
and
one
of
my
biggest
regrets
was
not
trying
even
harder
to
hold
on
to
my
home,
but
I
have
had
the
Good
Fortune
of
renting
a
beautiful
mid-century,
modern
duplex
in
the
historic
part
of
Boise
couple
of
blocks.
K
West
of
Harrison,
Boulevard
and
I
sit
here
as
the
only
renter
on
the
Boise
city
council,
and
it's
a
perspective
that
I
that
I
think
is
valuable
and
that,
fortunately,
members
of
our
community
also
think
is
valuable
and
I.
Assure
you.
If
you
welcome
your
new
neighbors,
just
like
you.
Would
anybody
else,
I
think
you'll
be
surprised.
K
I
will
be
honest,
I
didn't
know
what
a
homeowners
association
was
I
didn't
know
what
a
neighborhood
association
was
until
I.
Myself
became
a
homeowner
20
years
ago,
and
it
was
my
entry
into
this
world.
So
the
reality
is,
our
landscape
is
changing
and
more
and
more
people
who
call
Boise
Home
are
renters
and
the
reality
is
there's
probably
going
to
be
more
of
us
stepping
forward
to
be
at
these
decision-making
tables,
because
we
are
members
of
this
community.
We
work.
K
We
do
everything
that
homeowners
do
except
accumulate
wealth
in
that
way,
so
I
too
I
wish
it
would.
It
would
have
gone
down
differently,
but,
like
council
president
said
at
this
point,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
t's
are
crossed
and
the
eyes
are
dotted,
and
so
far
it
looks
like.
That's
the
case
and
the
rally
is,
we
do
need
more
housing,
whether
it's
for
homeowners
or
for
renters,
like
myself,.
G
Senator
Mary
I
can
make
this
pretty
quick
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
the
motion,
a
lot
of
the
emails
that
I
got
and
I
don't
know
if
people
who
are
watching
online,
the
folks
who
came
in
here
today
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
the
things
that
they
were
asking
would
have
been
something
that
we
would
have
been
able
to
address.
Had
it
been
a
rezone,
but
it's
not
a
rezone,
and
so
there's
not
a
lot
that
we
can
do
as
far
as
the
density,
the
housing,
the
space,
the
parks.
G
You
know,
because
of
those
things,
and
so
with
what's
available
in
front
of
us.
You
know
we
we
have
this
honestly
if
it
was
a
rezone.
I
would
like
to
have
seen
more
houses
that
were
three
bedroom
two
bath
that
were
slightly
smaller
instead
of
larger
houses.
So
if
that's,
you
know,
has
any
value
to
any
developers
that
are
out
there,
but
some
of
these
larger
houses
that
aren't
necessarily
getting
into
that
affordable
range.
G
There's
a
lot.
You
can
do
with
a
three
bedroom
two
bath
house
and
you
know
more
houses
that
are
smaller,
Footprints
and
trying
to
create
some
of
that
open
space
might
have
been
an
option
there
too,
but
again
wasn't
a
rezone.
It
was
a
subdivision,
so
we're
just
very
restricted
on
the
way
that
we
can
make
those
decisions.
I
am
excited
to
see
some
of
the
stuff.
That's
going
in
regards
to
the
pathway
regards
to
some
of
the
open
space
that
didn't
have
to
go
in
so
happy
to
support
the
motion.
Foreign.
A
F
Madam
mirror
I
move
that
we
defer
car
22-13
to
a
date,
certain
of
October
4th
2022.
Second,.
E
A
Thank
you
Rob
this
next
one
is
this
fast.
Okay,
then
we'll
do
this
before
we
take
a
break.
I
just
want
to
sequence
out
the
next
two,
so
I'll
be
asking
the
same
questions.
You
can
go
ahead.
A
S
There
we
go
on
July
19th.
The
city
council
declared
this
property
Surplus
state
code
now
requires
a
public
hearing.
Here's
a
diagram
that
you
see
parcel.
P
S
S
I
have
a
couple
little
just
more
details
there.
If
there's
of
any
interest
the
media
meat
of
the
matter
is
the
property
is
currently
vacant.
This
transfer
was
contemplated
in
a
development
agreement
for
the
Whitewater
development,
with
the
intent
to
Surplus.
The
property
is
right
away
to
achd.
It's
been
previously
master,
planned
and
approved
by
I
believe
Boise
city
council.
The
right-of-way
will
be
constructed
in
conjunction
with
a
development
agreement,
and
it's
also
been
I
believe
approved
by
designer
view,
so
it
has
all
of
its
entitlements
next
steps.
S
A
I'll
just
say
that
this
is
great
news.
It's
been
long
anticipated
and
the
wonderful
thing
about
this
is
that
it's
it's
expanding
Street
connectivity,
which
is
also
great
for,
like
the
people
Network
on
foot
and
by
bike
and
pet
folks
between
Fairview
and
what
is
it
Main
Street,
so
I'm
glad
to
see
that
this
was
on
the
agenda
tonight.
F
I
had
a
mirror
if
I
could
just
comment
quickly.
I'm
excited
to
see
this
we've
been
working
for
years
to
get
more
connectivity
on
some
of
these
super
blocks
that
were
created
in
parts
of
the
city
early
during
the
car
era.
If
you
will
and
having
this
additional
Street
will
be
a
real
benefit.
F
We
don't
make
a
motion
tonight
right,
do
we
or
do
we
move
to
move
it
to
public
to
ordinance?
Yes,.
F
Thank
you
sorry
about
that
Madame
mayor
I
would
move
that
we
recommend
that
the
transfer
of
real
property
to
achd,
comprising
0.643
acres
near
Fairview
and
main
streets
for
use
as
a
public
right-of-way,
be
moved
to
the
hearing
calendar
on
ordinances.
Second,.
B
A
All
right
we'll
go
ahead
and
take
the
next
item
and
then
we'll
break
after
item
three,
which
is
Cup
22-21
on
Callister
Drive
Dave.
Are
you
still
with
us
virtually
We've
Got
Crystal
here,
setting
up
the
slides,
Paula
Murphy
and
then
the
neighborhood
association
is
not
expected,
but
just
want
to
check.
Is
somebody
from
Hollister
here
nope
anybody
here
to
testify
on
this
alrighty?
A
N
Well,
I
apologize.
My
system
lags
that's.
A
M
All
right,
oh
sorry,
applicant
requests
the
modification
to
a
previously
approved
special
exception
to
expand
the
existing
trapeze
school
with
an
outdoor
recreation
use
and
outdoor
seating
for
a
beer
garden.
This
miniature
golf
course
and
beer
and
wine
sales.
The
subject
property
is
located
at
3401,
North
Hollister
drive
in
an
r1c
Zone
an
applicant
has
purchased
the
adjacent
parcel
to
the
South,
which
was
owned
by
achd.
M
In
2016,
a
special
exception
was
approved
to
operate
a
seasonal,
trapeze
School
within
a
residential
Zone.
This
original
project
was
approved
in
2016,
with
General
understanding
that
the
use
in
something
similar
would
be
expanded
onto
the
adjacent
parcel.
Once
the
achd
intersection
redesign
was
complete,
as
you
can
see
from
the
site
plan,
the
applicant
intends
to
improve
the
parking
lot
and
no
permanent
buildings
are
proposed
on
site
with
this
application.
In
summary,
with
conditions
of
approval,
the
special
exception
will
comply
with
all
the
required
findings
as
per
the
development
code.
M
This
includes
keeping
the
proposed
use:
seasonal,
like
the
trapeze
School,
limiting
hours
of
operation
and
providing
the
required
amount
of
improved
parking
spaces
on
site.
In
addition,
a
condition
of
approval
will
require
the
parking
spaces
which
are
located
in
tandem
with
the
Ada
spaces,
be
removed
as
seen
on
the
site
plan.
M
Finally,
there
is
a
special
circumstance
associated
with
the
special
exception
in
that
the
site
is
on
the
edge
of
the
residential
Zone
and
creates
a
transition
between
the
commercial
uses
surrounding
the
State
Street
and
the
adjacent
residential
neighborhood
to
the
north,
and
it
will
allow
for
redevelopment
of
a
Remnant
parcel
created
by
achd
during
the
construction.
In
conclusion,
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
recommends
approval
of
the
application.
G
A
T
Hello,
I'm,
Paula,
Murphy
I
reside
at
3401,
North
Hollister
Drive
in
Boise,
we're
seasonal
because
it's
cold
and
the
winter
is
here
and
it's
an
outdoor,
chappie,
school
and
mini
golf
course.
Great.
Do.
A
F
Here,
yes,
my
question
is
whether
or
not
you
intend
to
have
any
other
activities
such
as
live
music
or
that
kind
of
stuff
on
the
property.
T
At
this
point,
we
just
hope
to
get
the
doors
open
in
the
future.
We
would
consider
small
group
live
music,
but
again
I
live
in
the
neighborhood,
and
so
loud
noises
don't
go
well.
We
intend
to
have
very
quiet
background
music
playing
while
the
business
is
open,
but
okay,
nothing
of
any
volume.
D
U
D
U
D
T
F
Yeah
I
do
have
a
quick
question
for
Crystal.
So
if
we
approve
this
as
a
special
exception
and
in
the
future,
they
decide
to
do
live
music
say.
Would
we
have
an
opportunity
to
further
condition
it
if
necessary,
or
once
we
approve
it
with
these
conditions?
Is
that
it.
M
Madam
mayor
council
president
Clegg
If
This
Were,
to
become
if
that
use
were
to
be
integrated
into
the
regular
business
plan.
I
believe
they
would
have
to
come
back
before
this
body,
because
that
would
be
a
Event,
Center,
okay,
but
temporary
uses
would.
D
K
Here,
yes,
thank
you.
Let's
say
you,
you
get
everything
you
want.
You
got
all
those
activities.
What
would
be
the
maximum
number
of
people
that
you
foresee
being
able
to
enjoy
your
services.
T
So,
if
we're
talking
about
both
uses
at
the
same
time,
a
maximum
occupancy
for
a
trapeze
class
is
10
people
for
the
mini
golf
course.
A
maximum
is
for
people
on
nine
holes,
36
people,
our
market
research,
suggests
it's
going
to
be
more
like
two
or
three
people
at
a
time.
So
a
number
lower
than
36.
T
the
the
beer
garden
also
has
seating
for
15
maximum.
G
H
G
The
summer
and
then
follow-up
questions
so
there's
a
list
of
recommended
conditions
of
approval,
you're
not
asking
for
a
lot,
but
you
are
coming
back
and
you're
asking
for
something
that
we
kind
of
delayed
from
a
future
time.
I
guess
my
goal
would
be
that
you
don't
have
to
come
back
each
time.
You
want
to
do
something
in
addition
to
this,
and
so
is
there
anything
else
that
you
are
planning
on
doing.
Are
there
conditions
in
here
that
are
restricting
I?
G
Remember
like
March
20th
last
year,
during
treefort,
it
was
70
degrees
and
sunny
outside,
so
like
I
would
want
to
be
operating
a
mini
golf
course.
If
you
know
if
that
was
the
case,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
looking
at
this-
and
if
we're
okay
with
the
things
that
are
on
here-
that
we're
not
making
you
come
back
too
many
additional
times
for
additional
reasons.
T
A
F
A
mirror,
those
of
us
who've
lived
in
Boise.
Most
of
our
Lives.
Remember
that
there
used
to
be
a
great
little
mini
golf
up
off
of
Roosevelt
I,
believe
south
of
Overland
in
the
middle
of
a
neighborhood,
and
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
they
had
alcohol
sales
at
one
point
and
they
were
year
round
and
it
was
a
lovely
addition
to
the
neighborhood.
I
think
I'm
pretty
excited
to
see
this
and
hope
it's
very
successful.
G
G
If
there's
anything
else
that
you
might
want
to
be
doing
in
the
future
and
that
way
we
can
have
that
that
conversation,
then
the
only
thing
that
I
saw
in
here
was
that
November
1st
to
March
31st
and
the
first
thing
that
I
thought
was
like
that's,
not
necessarily
the
seasons
that
we
operate
in
anymore
and
it
was
snowing
in
April
and
May
of
last
year.
So
I
I
think
that
when
we
see
something
that
looks
like
it
can
add
something
to
the
neighborhood
that
we've
got.
G
You
know
a
business
is
who's
operating
in
good
faith.
Then
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
make
it
easy
for
you
to
do
stuff,
but
then
also
not
make
you
have
to
come
back
here
and
make
our
staff
have
to
do
stuff
as
well.
So
if
there's
more
stuff
in
the
future,
then
just
yeah
do
that
that
master
plan
and
let
us
know
what
it
is.
So
you
think.
K
Madam
mayor,
thank
you
just
thank
you
for
leaning
into
the
dream
and
you
know
just
being
respectful
of
the
process.
I
know
when
we've
had
situations
like
this
in
the
past.
That
was
really
a
big
issue,
is
folks
not
respecting
the
process
and
that
we
live
as
community
members,
and
so
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
for
that
and
all
the
best
here,
new
endeavor.
E
B
E
A
That
one
was
relatively
quick,
so
we're
gonna
move
into
this
next
one
PUD
22-21
Crystal.
Can
you
do
this
again?
Okay,
David
thanks
for
being
here,
but
we're
going
to
go
ahead
with
Crystal,
so
we
don't
have
to
pause
the
appellant
John
Dietrich
hello,
sir
welcome
applicant
Ben,
hello.
Welcome!
Do
we
have
Cena.
A
Okay,
Cena's
not
here
right
now,
anybody
else
here
to
testify
on
this,
you
ma'am
sure.
Okay,
sir,
are
you
testifying
on
this
nope
all
right
and
then
we'll
see
from
there?
What
else
is
necessary
all
right
crystal.
M
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council
on
June
6
2022,
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
approved
the
applicant's
request
for
a
conditional
use
permit
for
Planned
residential
development,
comprised
of
35
multi-family
units
on
0.85
acres
and
a
c1bda
commercial
earning
period,
commercial
with
design
review
and
development
agreement
Zone
this
application.
That
was
an
appeal
to
the
city
council
on
June
16th.
As
seen
on
this
Slide,
the
property
is
located
along
the
east
side
of
Broadway
Avenue.
M
M
The
grounds
listed
in
the
appeal
are
as
follows:
the
project
did
not
provide
the
required
amount
of
parkiness
per
the
development
code
and
the
commission
did
not
consider
the
safety
and
traffic
impacts
associated
with
the
development.
In
addition,
it
should
not
have
been
approved
without
comments
from
the
Idaho
Transportation
Department.
The
specific
justifications
and
reasons
for
these
appeal
points
are
discussed
with
the
opponent's
memorandum.
M
However,
based
on
the
planning
team's
review,
it
was
determined
that
commission
did
not
error
within
their
decision
to
address
the
first
grounds
of
the
appeal.
I
would
note
that
the
proposed
project
design
is
in
compliance
with
the
development
code
in
terms
of
the
required
amount
of
parking
Boise
city
code,
section
11-6-3.2
F
identifies
parking
credits
and
reductions
that
can
be
used
in
specific
situations
for
multi-family
developments.
This
includes
a
10
parking
reduction
for
Transit
supportive
developments,
provided
that
the
site
is
located
within
1320
feet
of
an
existing
or
planned
Transit
line.
M
The
subject
property
complies
with
these
standards
and
is
located
adjacent
to
the
Valley
Regional
Transit
bus
route
number
two,
which
operates
along
this
section
of
Broadway
Ave.
As
such,
the
site
is
eligible
for
the
10
parking
reduction
as
per
the
development
code.
Therefore,
the
project
provides
the
required
amount
of
parking
which
is
37
spaces.
M
In
addition
to
address
the
second
grounds
for
the
appeal,
I
would
note
that
PDS
Department
did
transmit
the
project
application
to
itd
twice
requesting
that
they
provide
comments
and,
as
such,
ITV
had
approximately
three
months
to
review
and
comment
on
the
project
and
they
chose
not
to.
As
for
those
safety
concerns
with
regards
to
crossing
the
Broadway
Ave,
commissioner
Danley
did
state
that
pedestrian
safety
is
important
along
this
section
of
Broadway
Ave,
but
requiring
this
applicant
to
install
a
signalized
pedestrian
Crossing
within
this
project
is
not
feasible.
M
M
This
is
the
site
plan
from
the
proposed
project
and
I'll
just
conclude
by
stating
that
the
Pud
for
35
dwelling
units
within
the
proposed
two
buildings
with
the
conditions
of
approval,
do
comply
with
all
requirements
to
the
development
code,
which
includes
providing
required
parking
and
condition
for
detached
sidewalks
with
a
landscape
buffer
along
Broadway
Ave,
and
in
conclusion,
the
planning
team
finds
no
error
with
the
commission's
decision
and
recommends
the
PNC's
decision.
Bl
pelled.
U
U
However,
this
Housing
Development,
recently
approved
by
Planning
and
Zoning,
has
a
considerable
safety
concern
that,
if
allowed
to
continue,
could
have
dire
consequences
for
residents
and
guests
who
live
in
or
visit
these
new
units
before
I
begin
any
further.
I
do
want
to
stress
that
I'm,
a
proponent
of
growth
and
new
development
for
Ada,
County
and
I'm,
very
much
in
favor
of
additional
housing
being
brought
to
the
Boise
area,
as
we've
all
know,
is
desperately
needed.
U
The
developer
is
proposing
26
one-bedroom
units
and
nine
two
bedroom
units
for
this
35
unit
apartment
complex.
This
is
a
total
of
44
new
bedrooms
on
this
extremely
small
parcel
of
land
that
will
only
have
37
parking
spaces,
two
of
which
are
properly
classified
as
Ada,
leaving
only
35
spaces
for
able-bodied
residents
to
utilize.
U
U
The
code
has
written
without
any
reduction
requires
a
development
this
size
to
have
41
spaces
which
by
itself
is
inadequate,
because
in
this
location
there
are
absolutely
zero
alternative
spaces
to
park
in
proximity
that
can
be
reasonably
and
safely
accessed.
Zero,
there's
nothing!
This
is
not
like
Broadway
Avenue
North
of
Boise
Avenue,
where
there's
street
parking.
It's
not
like,
there's
a
neighborhood
that
they
can
access
easily
from
this
location
to
park
on
Street.
There
is
zero
additional
parking.
The
only
place
that
there
can
park
is
directly
across
South
Broadway
on
West
Melrose
into
that
neighborhood.
U
Now,
as
if
41
spaces
isn't
bad
enough,
as
we've
heard,
they've
taken
a
10
reduction
for
being
approximately
to
a
Transit
line
and
I
will
acknowledge
that
I
did
miss
in
my
initial
application
that
there
is
a
Transit
line.
I
didn't
I
missed
that
the
bus
turns
off
of
Broadway
on
to
Lyndon
and
and
actually
right
as
it
gets
on
to
Linden.
There
is
a
bus.
Stop
there
it's
about
1200
feet
from
from
the
property.
So,
yes,
it
is
within
the
1320
feet.
However,
what
I
want
to
point
out
is
the
more
convenient
southbound.
U
Stop
is
almost
directly
across
the
street.
Nobody
with
groceries
in
their
hands
is
gonna,
go
all
the
way
down
there
and
walk
1200
feet
back
with
groceries.
They're
gonna
probably
get
on
off
on
the
stop
directly
across
the
street.
There's
no
crosswalk
or
signal
there
and
they're
going
to
jaywalk
across
the
street,
because
that's
about
350
feet
to
their
property
as
the
crow
flies
so
I
just
very,
very
concerned
about
the
safety
impacts
of
taking
this
parking
reduction.
U
None
of
these
features
can
be
found
along
the
stretch
of
South
Broadway.
There
is
no
grocery
shopping
nearby
and
really
the
only
thing
around
is
automotive
repair
shops,
fast
food,
coffee
stands
and
a
church
and
I
do
not
think
for
a
minute.
There
was
ever
really
any
intent
to
construct
densely
packed
multi-family
housing
along
this
stretch
of
roadway,
given
there
is
absolutely
zero
current
departments
or
condominium
complexes
constructed
anywhere
along
this
Gateway
zero.
U
Today,
there's
some
single-family
residents
and
some
smaller,
but
nothing
densely
packed
along
this
busy
stretch
of
road
further
I
suspect
the
c-1d
zoning
designation
was
intended
more
heavy
mixed
use
in
which
there
are
conveniences,
maybe
in
a
building
like
a
coffee
shop,
a
medical
clinic
or
small
grocery
store
downstairs
with
some
apartments
above
whether
my
thinking
is
accurate
or
not.
I
think
the
developer
has
legally
taken
advantage
of
every
loophole
in
the
code
to
propose
placing
44
new
bedrooms
on
this
tiny
parcel
of
land
with
only
37
parking
spaces.
U
That
said,
I
think
at
some
point
in
the
approval
process
of
the
two
developments.
There
must
be
some
judgment
displayed
at
some
level
of
city
government,
because
if
this
apartment
complex
is
constructed
as
proposed,
it
will
have
major
safety
consequences
and
create
new
hazards
for
the
city,
despite
checking
all
of
the
boxes
in
the
city
code.
U
Thus
far,
although
we've
seen
come
out
of
staff
and
the
pnz
commission
is,
this
project
meets
the
code
is
written,
but
nobody
is
pausing
for
a
second
to
practice,
to
look
at
this
new
project
to
see
if
it
makes
sense
and
it's
safe.
Nobody
other
than
myself
is
truly
asking,
nor
is
anybody
answering.
The
basic
question
needs
to
be
asked:
where
will
all
these
people
Park
when
the
37
spaces
in
the
lot
are
full?
U
He
was
the
only
one
to
his
credit
who
raised
the
issue
and
actually
voted
against
approving
this
project,
but
everybody
else
involved
with
this
project,
including
the
developer,
City,
PDS
staff
and
all
of
the
other
Commissioners
just
ignored
this
simple
question
and
push
this
project
through
I
understand
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
I
know
that
cities
Across
the
Nation
are
trying
to
to
make
do
with
less
allocated
space
for
parking.
U
The
challenge
this
development
and
all
others
along
South
Broadway
face
is
that
this
street
is
governed
and
controlled
by
itd,
not
achd,
being
one
of
only
three
gateways
into
downtown
Boise
itd
does
not
want
to
slow
the
street
down
any
more
than
it
already
has.
They
appear
totally
unwilling
to
provide
written
responses
to
requests
from
PDS
staff,
as
you
heard,
nor
are
they
in
favor
of
addressing
the
potential
safety
issues
that
might
arise
from
these
new
developments
along
the
stretch
of
roadway
rents
in
this
area
started
around
1800
or
higher
in
this
part
of
town.
U
In
order
to
afford
these
rents,
it
is
extremely
doubtful
that
there
will
be
many
if
any
of
these
units
that
only
have
one
occupant
living
in
them,
notably
in
the
two
bedroom
units.
It
is
also
almost
impossible
to
imagine
that
any
of
these
units
being
rented
will
not
have
at
least
one
vehicle,
and
given
the
high
rents,
most
units
will
have
at
least
two
adults
living
in
them,
notably
in
the
two
bedroom
units
with
44
bedrooms.
U
Let's
just
assume
that
50
of
the
one
bedroom
units
have
two
adults
and
nine
have
two
and
nine
and
all
nine
two
bedrooms
have
two
adults
that
comes
to
57
adults,
living
on
this
property
and
with
only
37
parking
spaces.
There's
absolutely
no
way,
and
we
all
know
that
20
of
those
people
are
not
going
to
own
a
car.
U
There
are
no
paid
parking
lots
around.
There
is
no
street
parking
around
other
than
jaywalking
across
the
street.
Where
are
these
people
going
to
park?
Keep
asking
the
question
and
on
top
of
that
notable
shortfall
in
parking,
we're
a
guests
going
to
park.
How
will
the
mail,
the
UPS,
FedEx,
maintenance,
folks
or
any
others
need
access
to
property
and
park?
Where
are
they
going
to
park
on
site?
U
U
Another
major
safety
concern
is
the
width
of
the
sidewalk.
Today,
it's
a
standard
five
feet.
However,
when
asked
by
Planning
and
Zoning
to
make
it
detached
and
widen
it
to
the
newly
recommended
width
of
seven
feet,
the
developer
stated
they
couldn't
even
accommodate
that,
because
this
this
just
confirms
that
there
is
far
too
much
pack
under
this
tiny
boxed
in
lot
along
this
very
busy
stretch
of
important
roadway-
and
this
is
where
this
incredible
safety
hazard
of
people
jaywalking
across
Broadway
and
walking
on
these
narrow
sidewalks
will
be
created.
U
That
is
not
present
today
that
are
not
present
today.
This
is
just
too
densely
packed
of
a
development
on
too
tight
of
a
lot.
Therefore,
the
developer
must
either
drastically
reduce
the
number
of
living
units
or
increase
the
parking
by
Building
a
garage,
but
either
way
this
complex
cannot
be
allowed
to
proceed
as
approved
by
planning
and
zoning.
U
Although
this
project
technically
meets
code,
the
commission
failed
in
the
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
the
code
that
is
primarily
written
for
downtown
type
walkable
locations
is
appropriate,
appropriate
for
the
site
specific
site
being
proposed,
which
clearly
is
not,
but
you,
as
the
city
council,
have
the
responsibility
to
protect
Boise
residents
and
prevent
this
ill-conceived
project
from
proceeding
at
this
point,
only
you
can
stop
this
project
or,
at
the
very
least,
send
it
back
to
be
redone
properly
to
mitigate
this
Hazard.
That
will
surely
exist
once
this
complex
is
built.
U
U
Once
it's
built,
it's
too
late,
there's
no
other
place
for
this
to
go.
As
I've
said,
we've
already
seen,
one
person
kill
jaywalking
across
this
busy
street,
so
I
cut
it
off
fathom
why
you
had
purposely
create
an
environment
in
which
more
Boise
residents
will
surely
meet
the
same
fate.
Thank
you
for
considering
my
appeal.
Thank.
A
V
Madam
mayor
members
of
city
council,
Ben
Semple,
with
Rodney
Evans
and
partners,
1450
West,
Bannock,
Street,
Boise,
83706,
yeah
I,
think
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
was
touched
on
regarding
the
parking
reduction.
We
did
reduce
the
number
of
units
from
the
allowable
37
based
on
the
density
allowance,
as
well
as
the
the
allowance
in
c1d
zone
of
43.5
units
per
acre
down
to
35
units.
Here
we
removed
a
unit
to
provide
for
some
additional
on-site
amenity
space
for
the
for
the
residents.
V
It
is
true
that
we
are
requesting
a
10
reduction
of
the
parking
Boise
city
code
does
state
that
the
minimum
parking
required
for
developments
within
1320
feet
of
an
existing
or
planned
Transit
line
shall
be
reduced
by
10.
That's
just
the
request
can
request
that
it
shall
be
reduced
by
10.
It
doesn't
State
1320
feet
within
a
stop
in
both
directions.
V
This,
although
this
project
does
meet
those
requirements,
the
stop
on
the
southbound
or
outbound
leg
of
the
Broadway
route
is
1098
feet
and
the
Northbound
or
inbound
route
on
the
east
side
of
Broadway
is
about
400
feet,
north
of
the
property,
the
transit
route.
There
I
appreciate
that
people
might
not
think
that
people
ride
the
bus,
I
personally
lived
in
Northwest
Boise
for
multiple
years,
I
had
a
four-person
family
and
one
car
and
I
rode.
V
The
bus
I
walked
at
least
a
quarter
of
a
mile
to
a
bus,
stop
to
then
transfer
on
buses
downtown
to
get
to
East
Boise
to
walk
another
approximately
quarter
to
a
third
of
a
mile
to
get
to
my
office.
I
did
that
five
days
a
week
happily,
because
it
left
my
car
at
home
for
the
rest
of
my
family
to
use
when
they
needed
to
when
people
need
to
use
public
transit,
they
will
use
public
transit,
they
the
person
that
has
to
walk
a
thousand
feet
to
get
to
a
bus.
V
V
I
appreciate
that
there
might
not
be
a
grocery
store
here,
but
all
of
the
other
uses
mentioned
would
appeal
to
a
person
that
wants
to
work
at
one
of
those
locations
or
needs
to
have
a
job
at
one
of
those
locations
and
can
now
live
within
walking,
distance
of
and
don't
have
to
get
in
a
car.
They
don't
even
have
to
get
on
a
bus.
V
While
there
is
not
a
connection
across
Broadway,
we
did
discuss
this
with
itd.
They
did
not
weigh
in
as
Crystal
stated
to
the
transmittal
I
called
them
directly
and
was
able
to
have
a
conversation
with
them.
They
stated
that
not
only
do
they
not
weigh
in
on
cup
applications.
Typically,
they
also
did
not
see
a
warranted
need
for
a
crossing
of
Broadway.
At
this
location
there
is
a
signalized
pedestrian
Crossing
at
Iowa
and
Broadway.
That's
north
of
here
there's
also
a
full
intersection
signalized
at
Linden
and
Broadway.
V
That's
to
the
South
people
might
jaywalk
people
jaywalk
downtown
when
you
can
walk
half
a
block
and
cross.
We
can't
stop
that
from
happening
and
while
there's
not
a
connection
to
any
other
adjacent
public
roadways
from
this
project,
there's
nothing
available
from
this
project.
We
do
we're
required
to
enter
into
a
cross-access
agreement
with
the
property
to
the
north
and
to
the
South
so
upon
Redevelopment,
of
the
parcel
to
the
South
that
can
open
up
a
public
cross
access
to
get
over
to
the
east
onto
Leadville,
the
public
or
the
credit
union.
V
The
I
wanted
to
clarify
something.
A
condition
of
approval
from
Planning
and
Zoning
was
that
we
provide
detached
sidewalks
along
Broadway.
We
are
complying
with
that
and
agree
to
that
condition
of
approval.
The
site
plan
was
updated
to
reflect
that
we'll
have
an
eight-foot
planner
strip
with
class
two
Street
trees
and
a
five
foot
detached
sidewalk.
Currently,
there's
a
five
foot
attached
sidewalk.
It's
true.
We
requested
a
seven
foot
attached
sidewalk
here,
mostly
to
save
an
existing
CMU
wall
That's
along
Broadway,
and
to
help
with
the
landscape
buffer
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
units.
V
F
Mayor
so
a
couple
of
questions
Ben,
so
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
you
have
agreed
to
abide
by
the
condition
for
the
detached
sidewalk.
That
was
going
to
be
one
of
my
questions.
My
other
question
as
I
look
at
the
site,
it
seems
like
the
way
you've
laid
it
out
actually
requires
the
removal
of
more
of
the
trees
that
exist
on
the
site
today
and
I.
Don't
know
what
kind
of
shape
they're
in
my
memory
is
that
they're
in
pretty
good
shape,
I
wonder
if
you
could
speak
to
that.
V
Madame,
mayor
and
council
president
Clegg
yeah
the
the
way
that
the
cross
connectivity
into
the
site
from
the
north.
We
have
to
connect
to
the
public
access
point
that
aligns
with
I
believe
it's
Melrose
immediately
across
the
street.
So
we
turn
into
the
site
almost
immediately
after
coming
off
of
Broadway
that
precludes
pushing
those
buildings
to
the
north
as
we'd
end
up
having
effectively
a
frontage
road
along
the
entirety
of
that
western
boundary.
V
V
A
lot
of
the
other
ones
are
right
up
against
the
foundation
of
an
existing
older
building,
I'm
working
with
some
tree
Salvage
people,
Urban
Timber,
harvesting
groups
here,
so
that
those
don't
end
up
in
a
landfill
and
then
we're
more
than
mitigating.
With
our
planting
plan,
we've
specifically
placed
additional
plant
material
on
the
east
side
of
this
project
to
help
buffer
the
residential
single-family
homes
to
the
east
as
well.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
You've
built
a
fair
number
of
these
around
the
city.
What's
your
experience
in
terms
of
how
heavily
parked
they
are.
V
You
know
this
I
mean
the
pellent
did
make
a
point.
There's
are
not
very
many
if
any
at
all
apartment
complexes
along
the
Broadway
Corridor,
so
I,
don't
I,
haven't
heard
of
a
lot
of
issues
with
parking.
I
think
that
residents
when
they
move
into
a
building
or
they're,
considering
moving
into
an
apartment,
building
look
at
a
parking
situation.
The
management
company
of
this
project
intends,
to
you
know
very,
be
very
forthcoming
with
the
number
of
parking
spaces
and
not
tell
people
they
can
just
park
anywhere.
V
So
I
I
think
it's
going
to
be
under
control,
not
only
from
a
management
side
of
things,
but
also
because
of
the
proximity
to
additional
alternative
methods
of
transportation.
That
would
reduce
the
residence
Reliance
on
a
vehicle.
F
So
point
out
to
me
on
the
site
plan
where
the
bike
parking
is
going
to
be.
V
We
have
some
bike
parking
on
the,
so
it's
the
north
east
corner
of
the
front
building.
There
is
so
the
first
floor.
Sorry
on
the
other
corner
of
that
under
undercover,
we
have
some
undercover
parking
in
that
amenity
space.
That's
on
the
first
floor,
there's
also
bike
parking
at
each
entrance
into
each
building,
as
well
as
under
the
stairwells.
We're
going
to
do
some
of
the
vertical
bike
racks
under
the
first
floor,
stairwells,
so
I
believe
we're
exceeding
the
bike
parking
on
the
site.
V
That
would
be
typically
required
for
this
also
there's
been
a
couple
different
iterations
of
this
one,
so
but
primarily
they're
out
on
right
next
to
Broadway.
I
think
this
is
an
older
site
plan
that
doesn't
show
the
detached
sidewalk
condition
and
then
again
there's
at
least
two
to
three
bikes
bike
racks,
which
would
hold
two
bikes
each
exterior
to
every
entrance
and
then
two
to
three
under
each
stairwell.
Okay,.
F
And
then
final
question:
even
with
this
site
plan,
you've
you're
showing
the
removal
of
two
trees
on
the
very
Southern
Edge,
both
of
which
I
think
are
about
18
caliber
did
you
consider
saving
those
and-
and
you
know
what
was
the
the
verdict,
if
you
will.
V
We
did
the
one
that
is
immediately
south
of
the
building
is
one
that's
not
in
great
condition.
We
did
evaluate
that
the
other
one
is
in
the
location
where
we're
required
to
provide
cross
connectivity
to
the
property
to
the
South.
So
it's
within
that
drive
aisle.
F
V
So
the
north
east
corner
of
the
front
building
on
the
first
level,
is
kind
of
a
Podium
open,
there's
a
rendering
of
it
right
here.
Yeah.
E
V
V
That
will
be
where
the
post
office
can
stop
to
access
the
mail
that
is
adjacent
to
the
amenity
space
and
then
that's
really
for
fire
in
the
future.
That
is
a
vehicular
travel
way,
but
it's
not
being
counted
as
our
open
space.
Okay,.
F
So
question,
and
maybe
it's
up
staff
if
we
allowed
that
tree
to
stay
with
the
condition
that
if
the
vehicular
access
is
ever
opened,
it
would
come
out
that
would
provide
some
canopy,
while
the
other
trees
have
a
chance
to
grow.
Would
that
be
possible?
Absolutely.
E
G
V
G
V
Entry
into
the
unit
exterior
bike
racks,
so
there's
six
at
each
entry
into
the
building
and
then
our
six
bikes
could
be
parked
at
each
one,
so
18
along
there
I
think
we're
meeting
the
I
think
it's
almost
one
and
a
half
per
unit
outside
and
under
stairwells,
and
that's
independent
of
anything
that
the
residents
bring
into
their
unit.
Okay,
thank
you.
So.
V
And
you
can
see
I'm
sorry,
madam
mayor
and
council
members,
you
can
see
in
this
rendering
against
the
Green
wall.
That's
under
cover
there
there's
additional
covered
outside
bike
storage
there.
It's.
A
I
I
I
An
even
more
important
point
is
the
failure
of
the
Idaho
Transportation
Department
to
provide
a
response
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
This
should
have
stopped
the
approval
process
since
the
IDT
owns
Broadway,
also
known
as
Highway
2026.
I
I
have
attended
two
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
Meetings
online
in
the
last
year.
During
both
of
these
commissioner
Danley
brought
up
a
pedestrian
who
was
killed,
Crossing
Broadway,
and
that
he
expressed
great
concern
about
pedestrian
safety
and
lack
of
involvement
by
the
itd
in
the
planning
of
all
of
these
new
developments
along
their
own
Gateway
Highway
into
Boise.
I
Their
lack
of
response
and
apparent
lack
of
concern
regarding
pedestrian
and
traffic
and
bicycle
safety
is
troubling
to
me
and
I
believe
it
should
trouble
you
as
our
Boise
city
council
in
the
June
6
2022
meeting,
commissioner
Danley
voted
against
the
approval
of
PUD
2221.
This
should
have
been
the
response
by
the
entire
Commission
I'm.
I
But
without
coordination
with
the
owner
of
Broadway
Avenue.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
should
not
approve
this
project
or
have
let
the
development
move
forward.
Nor
should
this
Council,
so
in
summary,
we've
we,
the
column
with
HOA,
stand
with
Mr
Dietrich,
and
we
support
his
appeal
and
on
a
personal
note,
I
want
to
thank
him
for
his
time
and
the
energy
he's
devoted
working
to
ensure
a
safe
neighborhood
for
current
residents,
as
well
as
our
new
neighbors,
and
thank
you
to
you
all.
A
F
Madam
mayor
I
do
have
yes
just
one
Crystal
our
code.
E
F
Allowed
reduction
in
parking
is
based
on
National
information
about
how
far
people
will
walk
to
Transit,
and
my
understanding
is
that
even
the
furthest
of
the
transit
stops
in
this
particular
case
are
closer
than
that
one-quarter
mile.
That
is
kind
of
a
national
standard
for
how
how
far
people
will
walk
is
that
am
I?
Reading
that
correctly,
not.
F
G
So
the
second
grounds
in
which
we
were
appealing
on
was
that
the
commission
didn't
consider
safety
and
traffic
impacts
associated
with
the
development
that
should
have
been
approved
by
Idaho
Transportation
Department
I
know
in
a
few
different
meetings
where
we've
had
achd
come
in
and
weigh
in
I've
been
on
a
couple
that
itd
has
as
well
and
I.
Guess:
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out.
G
It
sounds
like
we
got
a
reply
from
our
developer
that
they
said
that
they
they
usually
don't
comment
on
cups
and
so
I'm
trying
to
understand.
If
that's
something
that
is
normal
or
if
it's
abnormal,
that
we
weren't
able
to
get
a
response
from
itd.
M
G
Madam
mayor
follow-up
question
there:
when
we're
getting
some
of
the
traffic
safety
plans
from
itd
pedestrian
Crossings,
you
know,
might
be
something
that
would
would
be
considered.
G
I'm,
not
sure
that
a
pedestrian
Crossing
in
this
area,
because
of
its
proximity
to
some
other
ones,
would
be
something
that
they
would
be
able
to
add
or
that
we'd
be
able
to
require
developer.
To
put
in
is
it?
Would
it
be
common
for
for
itd
to
require
developer,
to
put
in
a
a
pedestrian
Crossing
at
that
intersection?.
G
When
they
do
give
us
when
they
do
give
us
those
traffic
impacts,
that
is
my
experience.
Is
that
a
lot
of
times
they're
talking
about
the
number
of
trips
that
it
will
develop
in
those
areas
and
not
necessarily.
A
V
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
members
of
city
council,
again,
Ben
simple
throughout
the
events
and
partners.
I
do
want
to
clarify
some
stuff
with
the
itd
interaction
that
we
had.
I
did
reach
out
to
them
directly.
V
So
their
response
to
me
was
that
the
let's
see
sorry
I
wrote
this
down
here,
because
I
specifically
asked
if
they
would
require
a
traffic
light
or
a
pedestrian
Crossing
at
this
location.
Because
of
this
project
or
in
combination
with
any
of
the
other
projects
in
the
immediate
vicinity,
and
they
stated
that
they
did
not
have
a
warranted
need
to
install
a
traffic
light
or
pedestrian
Crossing,
because
there's
not
a
regional
pathway
plan
that
crosses
Broadway
do
I
wish.
There
was
a
plan
that
had
a
Crossing
identified
that
would
be
wonderful.
V
What
they
did
state
was
that
they
had
concerns
about
signalizing,
anything
between
Linden
and
the
Iowa
pedestrian
Crossing,
because
if
traffic
coming
off
of
I-84
down
Broadway
that
had
a
green
light
at
Linden
was
stopped
halfway
between
Lyndon
and
Iowa,
there's
a
potential
that
that
traffic
could
back
up
through
that
intersection.
V
We
took
that
as
meaning
that
they
did
not
want
to
see
this
happen
in
the
location
I
asked.
If
we
had
proposed
something
if
they
would
accept
it,
they
basically
said
no
to
me.
We
did
get
an
achd
staff
report.
They
indicated
that
this
prop
this
project
in
particular,
would
add
15
additional
vehicle
trips
per
hour
in
the
PM
peak
hour.
They
also
identified
that
the
level
of
service
on
Broadway
is
better
than.
I
V
And
it
is
a
principal
arterial
and
acceptable
level
of
service
for
a
five-lane
principle.
Arterial
is
e,
and
so
we
kind
of
worked
with
that
when
we
kind
of
developed
our
safety.
The
safety
plan
on
this
I
understand
that
this
is
a
very
complex
matter
with
Crossing.
It's
unfortunate
that
a
pedestrian
did
die.
Crossing,
Broadway
I,
don't
think
that
that
was
the
result
of
any
in
particular
project.
I
think
it
was
just
an
unfortunate
circumstance
that
occurred.
V
I
I
wish
that
there
was
something
else
that
I
could
add
to
that,
but
I
mean
we're
basing
the
design
and
what
we
are
bringing
forth
and
what
pnz
based
their
approval
on
that.
Based
on
all
the
agency
reviews
and
comments
that
we
received.
G
Been
married,
follow-up
questions
there
so
reading
through
the
transcripts
from
from
the
original
hearing.
You
know
some
of
this
was
discussed
in
detail.
I.
Think
commissioner
Danley
sort
of
arrived
upon.
G
He
didn't
think
it
was
possible
to
require
the
developer
to
do
this,
but
he
did
think
that
if
there
was
continued
development
along
the
street
that
there
at
some
point
needed
to
be
investment
into
a
Crossing
in
those
areas
and
identified
that
that
was
something
that
ITB
needed
to
do.
My
question,
I
guess,
is
that
the
conversation
that
you
had
with
itd
did
that
happen
and
was
that
discussed
at
the
meeting,
or
did
that
happen
after
that
commission
meeting?
It
happened
before.
V
V
G
Okay,
I
guess
the
second
question,
and
this
is
something
that
the
appellant
brought
up
was
you
know
what
possible
way
would
there
be
for
people
to
for
the
amount
of
parking
that's
provided
to
serve
this
community
earlier,
when
you
testified,
I
think
that
you
said
basically
told
us
that
it
would
be
if
people
were
one-car
households.
So
if
there's
potentially
multiple
people
living
in
a
household
that
owned
one
car
and
I
guess,
is
that
what
you
see
as
far
as
this
development
is
catering
towards
that
group
of
people?
This.
V
They
are
specifically
not
doing
three
bedroom
apartments
here
because
they
wanted
to
do
I,
think
they
even
Incorporated
a
Studio
unit
into
these,
but
one
bedroom
and
two
bedroom
primarily
looking
for
you
know,
people
that
are
looking
for
something
more
attainable
and
when
you're
talking
about
affordability,
the
first
thing
that
you
don't
have
is
a
car,
because
that
tends
you
know,
owning
maintaining
and
driving
a
car
around
costs,
a
lot
of
money
and
so
to
have
a
residential
unit
that
allows
you
to
ride
a
bus
or
bike
and
not
own.
U
Thanks
for
that
again,
John
Dietrich
I
mean
the
applicant
said
it
himself.
Itd
does
not
want
to
slow
down
traffic
on
Broadway
Avenue.
It
needs
to
keep
moving
to
get
traffic
into
downtown
and
it
needs
to
keep
moving
to
get
traffic
out
of
downtown.
It
does
not
want
a
crosswalk,
it
does
not
want
a
traffic
light.
U
It
does
not
want
all
these
cars
turning
in
and
out-
and
yes,
maybe
it's
15
here
and,
as
we
mentioned,
the
other
apartment
building,
just
North
15
20
more
there
and
the
new
one
across
the
street
15
20
more
there
before
you
know
it
we're
talking
real
numbers,
so
I
think
it's
imperative
that
the
owner
and
operator
of
the
road
weighs
in
on
this
matter.
There
is
no
way
they're
going
to
put
a
crosswalk
there.
We
all
know
that
everybody
in
this
room
knows
that
right,
there's
no
way
Broadway
has
to
keep
moving.
U
It
can't
keep
slowing
down
every
block
because
we
want
to
build
a
new
apartment,
complex
and
the
irony
of
what
he
talked
about
to
Mr
Simple
and
all
due
respect
riding
the
bus.
Did
you
hear
what
he
said?
I
left
my
car
at
home.
U
He
still
owns
a
car
and
I
applaud
him
for
taking
the
bus,
but
he
still
owns
a
car.
Everybody
needs
to
own
a
car
in
this
location.
How
do
you
get
to
Costco?
How
do
you
get
to
other
places?
So
if
you
own
that
car
you're
going
to
park
it
at
the
development,
all
right
and
and
I
know
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things,
eighteen
hundred
dollars
might
be
on
the
low
side
of
rent
in
Boise.
But
that's
still
a
lot
of
money.
U
I
mean
if
we're
looking
for
the
up
and
comers
or
the
affordable
housing.
I
mean
there's
not
many
folks
that
are
going
to
walk
to
a
job
and
work
at
the
fast
food,
joint
or
the
or
the
tire
shop
down
the
street
and
make
enough
money
to
live
all
by
themselves
and
pay
the
800
a
month
and
the
utilities
and
everything
else
it
comes
with
comes
to
living
in
that
spot.
So
I,
just
I
think
we
just
have
to
use
some
judgment
here
and
there's
a
reason
there's.
No.
U
This
is
not
was
not
ever
Zone
to
intend
to
have
multi-family
along
the
stretcher
roadway,
it's
too
dangerous
and
yes,
there's
one
just
to
prove
that'll,
be
appealed
as
well
and
we'll
be
back
here
again
because
we're
just
putting
too
much
safety
issues
and
creating
hazards
that
do
not
need
to
exist.
I
mean
they
just
don't
need
to.
We
need
housing,
but
we
don't
need
people
killed.
We
don't
need
to
create
Temptations
for
people
to
be
along
this
tiny
little
sidewalk
or
jaywalking
across
the
street
because
they
have
nowhere
else
to
park.
U
If
the
lot's
going
to
be
plugged
up
with
everybody
who
owns
their
own
car
and
then
just
takes
the
bus
to
work,
there's
no
room
for
anybody
else,
and
you
know
he
referenced
that
the
plan
he
showed
was
an
older
site
plan.
Well,
we've
already
approved
the
Project's
been
approved.
When
are
we
going
to
see
the
real
site
plan?
I
mean
I'll
be
allowed
to
change
site
plans
after
they've
been
approved.
That
was
news
to
me
that
this
is
not
the
real
site
plan.
U
U
But
when
there's
one
right
across
the
street
right
human
nature
are
people
are
going
to
take
that
stop
they're,
gonna,
jaywalk
right
they're,
not
going
to
say
well,
I,
could
get
off
right
here
and
jaywalk
across
and
be
home
in
three
minutes
or
I'm
gonna
ride
another
minute
and
a
half
down
to
the
next
stop
and
then
walk
1200
feet
back
so
I.
Just
really
implore.
You
to
you
know,
do
the
right
thing
here
and
please
appeal
this:
we
want
housing,
we
we
want
it,
but
we
don't
want
to
create
more
hazards.
U
U
I
want
you
to
mark
this
day,
September
20th
2022.,
because
I
want
it
on
record
that
this
was
the
day
that
you
approved
a
very,
very
hazardous
project
that
has
a
high
level
of
probability
of
having
someone
seriously
injured
or
worse,
yet
killed
Crossing
that
very
busy
street,
and
with
that
I
truly
do.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I.
Thank
you
for
your
very
compelling
questions
and
and
interest
in
this
project
and
I
strongly
encourage
you
to
support
my
appeal
and
and
send
this
project
back
or
wherever
it
goes
from
there.
G
You,
madam
mayor
I've,
got
a
couple
questions
so,
first
of
all,
I
don't
know
if
there's
very
many
people
up
here,
who
would
say,
Broadway
is
a
really
wonderfully
designed
Street,
that's
easy
to
cross
completely
agree
and
jaywalking
on
Broadway
among
other
streets,
not
a
not
a,
not
a
great
thing
to
do
and
certainly
can
use
some
improvements.
G
The
grounds
that
you
appealed
on
and
I
appreciate
you
advocating
for
pedestrian
safety.
The
grounds
that
you
approved
appealed
on
the
project
did
not
provide
the
required
amount
of
parking
as
per
the
development
code.
That
was
the
first
one
correct,
yeah.
G
Yep
and
so
if
we
look
at
the,
if
we
look
at
the
code,
the
code
does
allow
specifically
for
us
to
do
this
parking
reduction
to
get
down
to
37
and
so.
S
G
City
code,
then.
G
We
could
we
could
not
say
that
the
the
Planning
and
Zoning
made
an
error
because
they
actually
followed
city
code.
You
know
to
the
T
here.
The
second
grounds
that
we
looked
at
was
the
commission
did
not
consider
the
safety,
safety
and
traffic
impacts
associated
with
the
development
reading
through
the
transcripts.
It
seems
like
there
was
a
relatively
robust
discussion
about
traffic
safety,
including
commissioner
Danley,
who
brought
up
on
multiple
occasions
about
the
street
Crossing.
It
sounds
like
that
there
was
a
conversation.
G
G
U
E
A
E
F
Okay,
that
America
could
I
just
clarify
something
with
Crystal.
That
I
think
will
help
the
appellant
I.
F
The
applicant
so
Planning
and
Zoning
approved
the
Pud,
but
once
that
PUD
has
approved,
the
development
still
has
to
go
to
design
review
and
during
the
time
between
the
approval
of
the
Pud
and
design
review
or
at
the
request
of
design
review,
the
site
plan
can
change.
Is
that
am
I,
correct,
Madam.
A
F
Madam
mayor
I'm,
prepared
to
make
a
motion
I
would
move
that
we
deny
the
appeal
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission's
approval
of
a
conditional
use.
Permit
PUD
22-21
at
2408
South
Broadway,
with
one
change
to
the
approval
that,
during
the
design,
review
process,
design
review,
consider
allowing
both
the
Silver
Maple
and
the
Linden
that's
in
the
cross.
Access
roadway
to
stay
until
such
time
is
at
Cross
access.
F
Not
a
mirror
yeah
I.
Don't
dispute
that
Broadway's
a
busy
road
that
it
travels
fast,
but
I
do
dispute
that
it
should
always
be
that
way
and
that
itds
should
dictate
that
a
city
can't
be
an
urban
place
that
has
safe
roadways
and
if.
D
F
Make
our
decisions
based
on
the
fact
that
if
we
make
this
decision,
itd
won't
change
and
if
we
don't
make
this
decision,
itd
won't
change.
Nothing
will
ever
change.
I
would
submit
that
these
kinds
of
roadways
in
urban
areas
are
in
fact
going
to
change
in
the
next
10
to
20
years,
because
cities
are
changing.
Building
better
cities
requires
that
these
roadways
become
places
that
people
can
live
on,
because
that's
what
making
better
cities
requires
and
I
believe
that
this
PUD
meets
our
code.
F
I
believe
that
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
did
have
a
robust
discussion
about
all
of
the
points
brought
up
in
the
appeal
and
that
during
that
discussion,
they
determined
based
on
their
expertise,
that
this
project
should
go
forward.
Despite
those
concerns,
and
so
for
those
reasons,
I
will
be
supporting
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission's
decision.
G
Amen
just
a
couple
things
I
had
in
complete
agreement
with
everything
that
council
president
clay
has
already
said.
There's
decisions
that
I've
made
up
here
that
I
didn't
necessarily
agree
with,
because
the
way
that
they
were
outlined
in
code
guided
Us
in
the
decision
that
we
had
to
make
and
if
we
were
making
those
based
off
of
personal
opinions
or
feelings,
then
that
wouldn't
be
the
predictable
development
pattern
that
we
promised
our
community
members
and
it
would
be
arbitrary
in
the
way
that
we
make
these
decisions.
G
I,
don't
believe
that
planet
and
zoning's
decision
was
arbitrary.
I
do
believe
they
took
into
account
the
things
that
you
said.
I
do
think
it
was
unfortunate
that
iitd,
you
know,
wasn't
able
to
respond
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
they
were
more
active
in
those
responses,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
pedestrian
safety
and
I
think
that
those
things
can
be
addressed
as
well.
G
I
think
it's
devastating
that
somebody
was
killed
in
that
area.
I
think
we've
got
a
lot
of
dangerous
streets
that
need
to
be
addressed
and
I
wish
that
the
city
had
more
control
of
some
of
those
things.
I
do
think.
Commissioner
Danley
noted
that,
and
it
sounded
like
he
is
planning
he
had
planned
on.
Taking
steps
to
address
that
with
itd
as
well.
C
C
C
There
are
just
a
couple
of
things
about
this
discussion,
because
I
think
it's
been
really
healthy,
I
think
it's
a
lovely
development
I
think
we
need
to
have
more
density
along
major
roadways.
I
think
that's
smart
to
do.
I
think
where
we
struggle.
Is
that
there's
not
a
lot
of
alternative
transportation
right
now,
I
mean
we're
doing
our
best,
but
it's
it's
not
near
where
it
needs
to
be.
I
am
always
concerned
about
parking.
C
You
know
coming
from
West
Boise,
you
know
we
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
walk
and
and
to
bike
for
recreation,
but
not
necessarily
to
get
to
and
fro
and
I.
Just
think
we
have
to
recognize
that
you
are
gonna.
We
are
going
to
have
folks
that
may
have
more
than
one
car,
because
they're
going
to
have
more
than
one
family
member
living
in
the
in
the
home
or
in
the
apartment
because
of
affordability
issues.
So
it
speaks
to
me.
C
I
have
a
real
soft
spot
in
my
in
my
heart
for
parking
and
and
just
the
common
sense
of
what
happens,
but
to
my
colleagues
a
point:
I
I
can't
do
my
decision
making
on
this.
It's
got
to
be
whether
the
pnz
was
arbitrary
and
capricious,
and
did
they
find
error
and
I
think
they
had
the
discussion.
I
just
disagree
with
what
they
came
up
with.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
the
motion.