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From YouTube: Boise City Council - Special Meeting
Description
Day 2 of Interfaith Sanctuary Appeal Hearing
A
Well,
good
morning,
everybody
welcome
back
so
today
we're
going
to
start
the
meeting
with
roll
call,
but
just
to
clarify
for
everybody
tuesday's
a
day
that
we
normally
have
a
regular
city
council
meeting.
So
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
business
to
attend
to
it's
a
short
meeting
and
then
we'll
move
into
the
public
hearing
at
hand
and
with
that
I'd,
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
agent.
E
A
F
D
B
F
Adam
mayor,
I
ask
unanimous
consent
that
all
ordinances
on
the
reading
calendar
be
read
by
number
and
title
only
and
filed
for
this.
The
first
reading
calendar
and
filed
for
the
second
reading
calendar.
A
G
I'd
like
to
move
the
council
to
amend
ord
20-22,
to
remove
the
requirement
for
geographic
districts
for
for
commissioners
on
the
district,
commissioning.
G
Madam
mayor,
we
talked
about
this
at
the
last
meeting
when
we
discussed
this
ordinance
and
the
more
I
think
about
it.
The
more
strong.
I
feel
that
a
person's
ability
to
deliver
help
to
our
city
by
drawing
fair
district
lines,
that
fairly
allocate
votes
to
districts
for
voters
really
doesn't
depend
on
where
they
live,
and
then.
Secondly,
I
really
worry
that
assigning
commissioners
to
a
district
creates
the
impression
that
they
should
advocate
for
that
district
or
that
they
should
represent
that
part
of
the
city.
G
In
drawing
the
district
lines
which
I
see
as
encouraging
balkanization
and
sort
of
siloing
and
isolating
of
our
cities,
the
lines
for
the
districts
should
be
achieved
by
city-wide
consensus.
Candidates
should
run
in
their
district
and
work
for
their
district
and
work
for
votes
in
their
district.
But
how
the
districts
are
divided
is
a
city-wide
issue
and
we
should
draw
from
the
best
and
the
brightest
all
over
the
city
without
respect
to
to
where
someone
happens,
to
live.
H
Then
mayor
a
question,
I
guess
for
council
member
of
agent,
so
one
I
agree
with
almost
everything
that
you
said
there
and
my
question,
for
you
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about.
We
got
some
public
testimony
by
colin
and
I
was
talking
about
what
was
the
term
that
he
used.
It
was
neighborhoods
of
interest
communities.
H
G
No,
that's
really
fair
council
member
halliburton
and
the
the
representative
who
testified.
I
thought
was
really
helpful
on
this.
You
know.
Community
of
interest
really
means
some
type
of
group
of
people
who
deserve
or
require,
or
should
have
special
consideration
in
how
the
districts
are
drawn.
For
example,
it's
well
if
it's
frankly
illegal
to
take
a
community
of
interest
like
an
ethnic
minority
or
a
language
minority
and
shove
them
all
into
one
district.
So
they
only
get
one
representative.
It's
also
illegal
to
split
them
unfairly,
so
that
their
votes
are
diluted.
G
That's
one
type
of
community
of
interest,
another
type
of
community
of
interest,
might
be
a
neighborhood
that
has
particular
needs
with
respect
to
the
city,
that's
part
of
the
geographic
argument
or
a
group
of
people
who
have
some
unique
set
of
needs.
It
needs
to
be
listened
to
in
city
hall,
but
because
community
of
interest
is
so
broad,
it's
so
flexible.
It's
designed
to
capture
really
whatever
unique
set
of
needs.
G
Some
group
of
people
might
need
it's
not
inherently
geographic,
and
I
don't
think
you
know
the
ability
to
develop
a
relevant
community
of
interest
shouldn't
be
over
influenced
by
this
geographic
need.
So
I
would,
I
would
say
two
things
to
that:
first,
geographic
boundaries,
don't
necessarily
get
to
community
of
interest,
and
we
shouldn't
imply
that
they
do.
G
But
second,
our
policy
statements
and
our
policy
directives
on
this
commission
should
strongly
indicate
that
geographic
diversity
is
important,
that
community
of
interests
are
important
and
and
that
part
of
the
duty
of
the
mayor
in
creating
this
commission
is
to
make
sure
that
all
of
these
interests
are
represented.
I
don't
think
it
should
be
in
the
ordinance,
but
there
should
be
a
strong,
strong
policy
directive
that
this
is
what
we're
looking
for.
F
I
agree
with
the
underlying
premise
of
this,
but
wonder
what
I've
been
thinking
about
on
this
is
that
the
way
that
the
ordinance
is
written
today,
there's
one
requirement
in
the
ordinance
for
how
commissioners
should
be
chosen,
and
that's
geographically,
there's
nothing
to
stop
a
mayor,
not
saying
that
you
would
do
this
from
choosing
five
people
who
are
essentially
the
same
people,
but
are
geographically
diverse
to
me.
F
If
that
commission
didn't
in
fact
represent
a
diverse
group
of
interests
from
all
boiseans,
if
in
fact,
it
was
chosen
to
represent
the
same
interest
but
they'd
happen
to
live
in
different
parts
of
the
city
and
so
to
me,
the
ordinance
will
be
much
stronger.
If
we
go
with
a
statement
like
let
that,
rather
than
just
requiring
that
the
commissioners
be
geographically
diverse,
the.
I
Doing
doing
our
work
by
districts
is
a
huge
cultural
shift
for
us.
You
know,
speaking
for
myself,
someone
who
was
not
able
to
access
this
seat
in
the
traditional
way.
I
I
wasn't.
I
I
think,
because
this
new
system
has
really
been
thrust
upon
us
here
in
boise.
It's
not
something
that
our
constituents
asked
for
it's
something
that
was
imposed
on
us
and
then
we
had
to
scramble
to
conform
with
the
law,
any
opportunity
that
we
have
to
slow
this
process
down
and
have
it
be
a
bit
more
of
what
we
would
like
it
to
be
that
truly
and
adequately
represents
the
people
of
boise.
I
I
myself
and
I
don't
think
any
of
my
colleagues
have
ever
done
our
work
in
terms
of
where
we
live.
We
do
it
in
terms
of
the
work
that
our
constituents
want
done
on
their
behalf
and
and
that
comes
from
being
engaged
with
our
community,
not
necessarily
just
with
our
neighborhood.
So
that
is
why
I
seconded
the
motion.
H
Maybe
just
the
question
for
council
president,
I'm
all
about
questions
other
council
members
this
morning.
I
agree
with
the
intention
that
you
have
in
making
sure
that
we've
got
a
more
diverse
representation
on
the
commission
to
to
do
the
best
that
we
possibly
can.
What
I
don't
understand
is
how
we
can
actually
do
that
in
a
way
this
objective
so
like.
H
F
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that,
because
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
this,
we've
found
a
lot
of
ways
in
this
country
to
divide
ourselves,
and
I
think
this
idea
that
dividing
the
city
into
these
geographic
areas
will
somehow
mean
that
those
people
are
more
representative
of
voicings
as
a
whole
is
another
example
of
that.
We
also
have
a
lot
of
distrust
of
government
right
now,
and
I
understand
that
distrust.
I
know
where
the
messaging
is
coming
from.
F
G
At
the
end
of
the
day,
council
member
hallie,
burton
every
single
one
of
our
institutions
and
every
single
one
of
our
systems
depends
on
good
people.
Doing
the
right
thing.
It's
true
of
the
press,
it's
true
of
the
government,
it's
true
of
our
health
care
system,
it's
true
of
every
single
institution,
and
if
good
people
don't
do
the
right
thing,
then
they
can
all
crumble
and
there's
no
set
of
rules
that
you
can
make
to
prevent
that
from
happening,
implying
that
geographic
diversity
solves
that
problem.
G
F
Madam
mayor,
I
don't
know
exactly
having
not
faced
this
for
a
while
what
the
right
process
would
be.
I
think
we
send
this
back
to
staff
with
direction
based
on
the
discussion
today,
if
everyone
votes
to
agree
with
that
and
bring
it
back
for
first
reading
next
meeting,
if
they
conclude
that
it's
not
substantial
enough
that
we
need
to
do
more,
we
don't
have
to
have
a
public
hearing
on
any
ordinance.
F
K
Madame
I
have
a
couple
of
comments
appreciate
that
there's
a
lot
of
differing
opinions
on
this,
I'm
the
only
city
council
person
who
doesn't
live
inside
of
the
north
end.
I
think
that
balanced
government
is
important.
We
have
a
federal
system.
We
have
a
state
system
where
you
have
geographic
diversity.
You
have
those
in
the
house
that
are
elected
by
district
and
you
have
those
in
the
senate
that
are
statewide
and
you
have
a
governor,
that's
elected
at
large.
K
This
law
was
borne
out
of
the
fact
that
there
was
concern
that
people
weren't
being
represented,
and
I
think
if
we
are
truly
a
city
for
everyone,
we
have
to
recognize
that
geographic
diversity
plays
into
that.
There
is
a
feeling,
often
that
those
who
don't
live
in
the
core
of
boise
aren't
as
much
as
par
aren't
as
part
of
boise
as
they
like
to
be.
K
K
Then
you
could
continue
to
have
a
system
that
perpetuates
insulation
and
I
think
it's
important
to
have
lots
of
different
voices.
K
G
C
Madam
mayor,
as
the
council
member
who's
kind
of
the
sponsor
of
this
ordinance,
I
I
guess
I'm
a
little
bit
ambivalent
as
to
whether
this
geographic
representation
requirement
is
built
into
the
ordinance
or
whether
we
represent
it
in
policy.
C
In
some
way
we
actually
conversed
about
both,
and
so
I
think
that
either
one
really
covers
it.
And
then
it
would
be
contingent
upon
madam
mayor,
when
reviewing
all
of
the
applications
that
we'll
hopefully
receive
from
various
interested
people
in
the
community,
to
ensure
that
we
have
geographic
diversity,
that
we
have
demographic
diversity,
that
we
really
have
a
commission.
That
represents
the
breadth
of
our
community,
both
from
where
people
live
and
what
communities
they
come
from.
And
then
it
would
be
up
to
us
to
say
you
hit
the
mark
or
no.
C
You
did
not
hit
the
mark,
which
I
hope
does
not
happen.
I
think
that
we'll
have
a
lot
of
folks
interested
in
this,
and
you
know,
and
probably
from
all
over
the
city
and-
and
I
hope
that
that's
true
but
like
I
said,
I'm
not
committed
to
having
it
necessarily
in
the
ordinance
written
the
way
that
it
is.
I
would
be
fine
with
having
it
in
the
ordinance
in
a
more
generalized
statement
and
then
really
shoring
that
up
in
policy.
K
Madame,
I
know
that
councilwoman
clay
talked
about,
we
don't
have
to
have
a
public
hearing,
but
I
think
in
the
era
of
good
government,
because
we're
taking
or
it
looks
like
the
votes-
will
be
there
to
take
this
out
and
redo
this.
I
do
think
we
need
one.
K
I
think
that
would
be
important
and
I
think
it
would
strengthen
the
ordinance.
J
H
There's
so
much
that
I
agree
with
it's
been
said:
there's
one
thing
that
kind
of
keeps
coming
back
to
me.
I
really
don't
think
it's
going
to
change
the
way
that
the
map
is
shaped
out
by
the
time
that
we're
done.
I
think
that
we're
going
to
have
experts
on
this
panel.
I
think
that
you're
going
to
do
a
good
job,
selecting
people.
H
The
second
thing
is
that,
by
the
time
that
there's
the
next
election,
every
single
council
member
up
here
will
represent
a
different
area
of
the
city
and
going
forward
in
this
ordinance.
There
will
be
representation
to
vote
in
or
vote
out
any
commissioners
that
the
mayor
approves,
and
so
I
think
that
that
actually
does
sort
of
take
care
of
itself.
H
In
that
type
of
representation
that
we
have
there-
and
I
also
agree
that
this
is
a
pretty
large
change
based
of
what
we
sent
to
the
public
originally,
and
I
don't
want
to
slow
down
the
process,
because
I
knew
that.
I
know
that
we
need
to
do
this
as
fast
as
possible,
but
I
don't
disagree
that
this
is
a
big
enough
change,
that
it
might
require
more
public
comment
on
it.
H
My
concern
is,
I
don't
know
what
the
public
comment
is
going
to
change
in
this
decision,
so
I'm
back
and
forth
on
whether
or
not
is
it
needed,
because
it
is
such
a
big
change
or
two
like
have.
We
already
decided
that
this
is
the
direction
that
we
think
that
this
needs
to
go
and
would
that
be
affected
at
this
point
by
additional
public
comment.
B
K
K
K
Even
if
that
ordinance
doesn't
change
much.
I
think
the
opportunity
for
civil
discourse
is
important
so
that
people
feel
heard,
even
if
the
even
if
things
don't
change
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
listen,
and
I
think
listening
is
important.
F
Vladimir,
we
don't
have
to
decide
today
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
have
another
public
hearing
what
we
need
to
decide
today.
Are
we
going
to
send
this
back
and
ask
staff
to
bring
back
language
that
represents
a
conversation
we've
had
today,
if
we
vote
to
support
that,
I'm
happy
to
work
with
matamiro
and
and
council
president
pro
tem
woodings
and
consultation
with
all
of
the
rest
of
you
to
determine
how
and
when
we'll
vote
on
the
final
ordinance
and
whether
we'll
have
a
public
hearing
before
then.
A
I'm
going
to
point
out
that
I
think
some
of
these
things
need
to
be
decided
today
because
there's
an
expectation
that
we
come
up
with
a
commission
that
that
commission
have
a
full
calendar
of
public
engagement
over
the
course
of
the
summer
and
be
able
to
then
have
maps
presented
to
you
as
the
legislative
branch
whose
responsibility
is
to
make
this
decision,
and
so
because
of
that,
I'm
going
to
ask
that
you
deliberate
and
make
a
decision
on
these
things.
Today
we
don't.
A
We
cannot
afford
to
continue
to
push
this
decision
further
back,
given
the
responsibility
that
this
council
has
to
ensure
that
there's
a
public
process
on
districts
this
summer
and
I'll
also
say
that,
regardless
of
how
you
decide
that
these
poli,
the
this
ordinance
ought
to
look
today.
A
That
is
the
one
role
that
I
have
in
this,
because
the
council
has
opted
to
have
a
commission
review
maps,
take
public
feedback
and
then
propose
to
the
council
the
districts
that
you'll
ratify
or
change
the
public
engagement
piece
is
really
important.
What
people
care
most
about
is
what
the
maps
and
the
districts
ultimately
look
like,
and
we've
got
to
have
enough
time
to
have
that
meaningful
conversation
about
the
maps
themselves.
A
So
if
you
would
like
to
have
another
hearing,
of
course,
that's
julie
before
council,
but
I'd
ask
that
you
deliberate
and
make
a
decision
today,
so
that
staff
can
bring
back
some
an
ordinance.
That's
reflective
of
the
change
that
changes
that
you
made
in
response
to
the
feedback
that
you
heard
in
the
public
hearing,
which
is
typically
how
ordinances
are
changed,
and
then
we
can
move
forward
with
a
process
that
respects
the
need
for
public
engagement.
This
summer.
F
Madam
mayor,
in
that
spirit,
I
would
ask
then,
to
amend
the
motion
to
strike
the
section
talking
about
geographic
choosing,
commissioners
via
geographic
districts,
and
instead
insert
that
diverse
community
commissioners
shall
be
chosen
that
are
representative
of
all
voicings,
including
geographically.
E
A
A
K
K
I'm
going
to
vote
no
and
here's
why?
I
think
the
motion
is
strengthened
by
more
diversity.
I
think
that's
important.
K
I
would
like
it
to
be
required
that
there's
geographic
diversity
by
areas
of
areas
of
community
I
also
wished-
I
would
have
had
more
time
to
think
about
this.
I
didn't
know
that
this
was
going
to
be
reconsidered
in
this
way,
so
I'm
feeling
a
little
unprepared,
because
I
would
have
liked
to
have
a
little
bit
more
time
to
process
this.
A
Okay,
so
with
that
we'll
head
to
second
reading,
thank.
J
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
now
we're
moving
on
to
the
public
hearing.
We
have
nothing
else
on
our
agenda.
A
couple
things
to
kick
us
off.
Welcome
back
to
those
of
you
that
were
here
last
night
and
came
again
welcome
to
all
of
you
and
that
are
joining
by
zoom.
We
will
start
with
folks
in
the
room
and
then
move
to
folks
on
zoom
and
just
a
couple
things
I'm
going
to
read
something
so
that
I
say
the
same
thing
every
time
and
then
I'll
be
a
little
bit
more
human.
A
So
if
you're,
a
party
of
record
and
you're
testifying
on
zoom
once
you've
testified
on
zoom,
our
clerk
is
going
to
remove
you
from
the
zoom
feed
and
then
you
can
watch
the
hearing
by
youtube
and
we're
doing
that
because
our
clerk,
when
she's
managing
zoom
she'll,
be
calling
folks
to
testify,
but
it's
hard
to
work
through
all
the
names
and
when
there
are
people
just
watching
city
council
from
the
zoom
stream.
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
done
this
on
other
things.
A
So
she's
going
to
remove
you,
but
you
can
go
to
the
youtube
channel
then
and
watch
it
watch
the
whole
proceeding
live
once
you've
testified
and
so
for
those
of
you
that
are
on
zoom,
if
you're
not
planning
on
testifying
today,
if
you
just
jump
off
and
go
to
the
youtube
channel,
we'd
really
appreciate
it,
and
with
that
we
are
I'll
start
with
the
list
here
and
then
I've
got
a
couple
questions
just
on
some
names
that
were
a
little
different
than
the
party
of
record
and
that
we'll
go
through.
A
I'm
just
going
to
repeat
what
I
said
last
night,
just
a
shorter
version
of
it,
and
that
is
that
I
ask
that
all
of
us
come
to
this
with
respect
for
each
other,
for
the
community,
for
the
people
that
we're
talking
about
and
recognize
that
at
the
end
of
this,
we've
all
got
to
go
back
to
living
together
and
that
we
all
love
this
place.
We
express
that
in
different
ways,
but
please
remember
that
each
of
us
is
a
person
is
coming
with
the
best
of
intentions
and
then
finally,
I
have
allergies.
A
So
if
my
eyes,
water,
you're,
not
making
me
cry-
they're,
red
and
itchy,
but
and
I'll
probably
sound
a
little
funny.
But
I've
just
got
allergies
and
didn't
want
to
take
allergy
medicine,
because
I
wasn't
sure
what
it
was
going
to
do
to
me
today
and
with
that
we're
going
to
get
started
first
on
the
list
I
think
is
dave
fuji
or
that
lives
on
silver
lake.
A
A
M
M
Tim
flaherty,
the
former
assistant
director
of
ifs
and
homeless,
advocate
emphasized
the
importance
of
keeping
the
shelter
close
to
downtown
services.
He,
along
with
another
former
ifs
employee,
testified
in
opposition
to
ifs,
moving
out
of
the
downtown
area.
Where
the
services
are
centralized
by
blueprint,
boise
design
next
slide,
testimony
was
read
on
behalf
of
paulo
forney,
former
boise
city
council
member.
M
M
O
Denise
zimmerman
in
the
unfortunate
case
that
this
appeal
is
granted.
I
can
serious
concern
that
interfaith
will
begin
operating
their
shelter
prior
to
meeting
all
conditions
and
requirements.
This
use,
even
if
temporary,
must
not
be
allowed
without
any
provision
specifically
enacted
to
prevent
this.
The
surrounding
neighborhood
has
grave
concerns
that
ifs
will
either
not
complete
what
is
required
to
meet
the
conditions
or
otherwise
just
violate
them,
with
no
checks
for
compliance
from
the
city
and
no
easy
way
to
remediate
it.
It
will
become
a
disaster
for
the
neighbors.
O
For
example,
the
prior
salvation
army
rehab
facility
on
willow
lane,
where
the
wca
shelter
is
now
operated
with
many
more
beds
than
they
were
allowed
after
significant
years
of
impacts
to
the
neighborhood,
the
city
simply
allowed
the
violating
behavior
by
approving
a
modification
to
the
cup.
We
are
fearful
the
ifs
will
do
the
same
and
are
concerned.
The
city
will
just
continue
to
rubber
stamp
without
any
violations.
O
O
This
permit
said
you
shall
only
be
for
180
days
and
no
extension
shall
be
granted,
but
a
month
beyond
180
days
operating
without
a
valid
permit
ifs
requested
extension.
Of
course
it
was
granted
ifs,
operated,
a
shelter
without
a
conditional
use.
Permit
the
city
incorrectly
allowed
interfaith
to
operate
a
shelter
on
a
c
3d
property
which
was
required
to
have
a
cup.
O
While
they
may
have
been
well-meaning,
the
result
was
not
well
run,
not
safe,
not
lawful
and
not
successful.
The
commission
was
right.
This
appeal
must
not
be
granted.
If
it
is,
the
city
must
not
widely
watch
or
worse
approve
of
violating
behaviors.
The
city
must
take
steps
to
request
meaningful
conditions
that
ensure
lawful
conformance
with
the
commitments.
Also,
interfaith
must
not
be
allowed
to
operate
a
shelter
under
any
temporary
permit
and
definitely
not
until
all
construction
conditions
and
requirements
are
met.
C
Yes,
I
have
a
request,
while
I
understand
folks
not
wanting
to
give
their
address
on
the
live
stream.
It
would
be
helpful
to
me
at
least
to
know
which
neighborhood
people
are
from
when
they
come
up.
So
if
you
could
just
state
your
neighborhood
association
or
general
neighborhood,
that
would
be
really
helpful
to
me.
C
Q
We
want
to
comment
on
the
wardell
arguments
on
not
being
required
to
have
a
plan.
Mr
wardell
comments
that
the
applicant
doesn't
have
a
requirement
to
create
a
security
plan.
Of
course,
we
already
know
that
the
record
clearly
shows
that
pcc
did
not
require
the
applicant
to
have
a
plan.
He
argues
that
he
doesn't
have
to
produce
a
security
client
plan
because
one,
the
record
is
closed.
Q
Two
the
code
doesn't
require
it
like
it
does
a
garbage
plan
three.
They
don't
have
enough
time
in
three
to
four
weeks
to
create
one
four:
they
don't
have
enough
development
details
to
create
it
and
five.
The
bpd
chief
lee
said
that
the
plan
is
driven
largely
by
commission
driven
conditions,
but
there
are
no
requirements
that
prevent
the
applicant
from
proactively
developing
a
security
plan.
Q
The
applicant
has
known
of
the
security
and
safety
cons
concerns,
as
well
as
requests
for
security
and
safety
plans
for
almost
a
year
and
has
chosen
not
to
act.
Surely
that
wasn't
because
there
wasn't
enough
time,
and
just
because
the
applicant
hasn't
completed
completely
firmed
up
all
development
details,
it
doesn't
follow
that
a
plan
cannot
be
drafted.
That
gives
guidance
for
those
details
as
well
as
being
general
enough
to
allow
details
to
be
determined
further
along
and
to
be
completely
clear.
Chief
lee
said
the
plan
is
the
responsibility
of
the
applicant.
Q
The
chief
went
as
far
to
indicate
that
the
applicant's
efforts
and
investments
into
that
plan
would
be
a
clear
indication
of
their
commitment
to
safety
and
security,
and
then
mr
wardell
says
they
are
happy
to
create
a
plan
and
that
they
have
security
experts
that
they
have
worked
with
before.
But,
of
course,
these
are
likely
just
hollow
words,
since
a
record
has
no
evidence
of
any
effort
put
towards
developing
a
plan,
if
is
ifs,
is
so
willing
to
create
a
plan.
Why
don't
they
do
so?
Q
We
continually
hear
that
ifs
claim
that
there
is
a
security
and
safety
plan
for
their
existing
river
street
site,
which,
given
elevated
river
street
crime
statistics,
must
not
be
working.
If
there
is
a
plan,
it
was
undoubtedly
created
without
cup
conditions
requiring
it,
since
no
cup
is
in
the
place
of
their
current
location.
So
why
doesn't?
Q
R
R
Sometime
later,
a
grandmother
went
out
to
a
convenience
store,
we
presume
to
get
some
items
for
her
granddaughter's
sleepover,
but
we
don't
know-
and
we
can't
ask
her,
because
she
was
shot
and
killed
while
in
her
car
near
that
convenience
store
later
that
same
evening,
police
were
called
to
a
nearby
location
where
a
man
was
randomly
shooting
into
an
irrigation.
Ditch
he
claimed
to
have
mixed
alcohol
and
pills
and
had
blacked
out.
R
He
was
arrested
for
negligent
discharge
and
drug
possession.
The
sheriff's
office
was
not
able
to
hold
him
for
the
nearby
homicide,
however,
because
they
were
waiting
on
the
state
crime
lab
to
process
the
projectiles
from
the
scene,
so
they
had
to
let
him
go
later.
A
murder
warrant
was
issued
for
his
arrest
because
it
turns
out
that
the
homicide
bullets
from
the
scene
matched
one
of
the
guns
found
on
him
at
the
time
of
his
arrest
for
negligent
discharge.
R
R
R
R
R
Likewise,
the
interfaith
does
wonderful
work
and
they
should
be
applauded
for
it,
but
we
need
to
make
some
decisions
about
how
to
properly
manage
that
activity.
Please
affirm
planning
and
zoning's
denial
of
the
application
for
this.
In
this
particular
case.
Thank
you.
S
S
The
commission
heard
numerous
experts
testifying
in
opposition,
including
senators
land
use
planners
first
responders,
numerous
social
workers
and
medical
professionals,
former
interfaith
executives,
employees,
volunteers,
former
boise
city
planners
council,
persons
and
fire
veterans,
former
achd
commissioners,
retired
police
chiefs,
families
of
bpd
officers
and
all
who
gave
substantial
competent
evidence
that
the
proposal
is
too
big
represents
a
failed
model,
will
bring
drug
use
and
crime
to
the
vicinity
will
create
large
increases
in
fire
and
ems
calls,
will
burden
services
and
inefficiently
use.
Taxpayer
dollars
is
incompatible
with
the
neighbor.
S
All
this,
while
bpd
chief
lee
clearly
stated
it
was
interface
responsibility
to
produce
these
plans
and
that
they'd
show
interface,
commitment
to
safety
and
security
interface
response,
coupled
with
the
record,
which
shows
of
the
that
they
knew
of
the
numerous
requests
for
safety
and
security
information,
the
adverse
impacts
that
their
shelters
have
and
that
they
were
aware
that
their
policies
have
released
dangerous
guests
into
the
community
with
horrific
results.
This
can
only
mean
that
interfaith
knew
that
their
impacts
and
burdens
cannot
be
mitigated.
S
Otherwise,
why
refuse
to
provide
helpful
information
and
plans?
Why
attack
the
neighborhood
also
surprising,
is
that
this
wealth
of
expert
testimony
and
substantial
evidence
has
largely
been
ignored
in
staff
reports
and
the
appeal
itself.
You
must
not
do
the
same.
This
appeal
is
designed
to
distract
you
from
the
substantial
evidence
through
outlandish
claims,
emotional
arguments.
Picking
at
definitions
and
seeking
to
avoid
responsibility
for
mitigation,
don't
be
distracted.
The
planning
and
zoning
commission
wasn't
and
you
must
not
be.
You
must
uphold
the
denial.
A
T
U
Good
morning,
karen
espinoza,
I
live
in
the
veterans
park
neighborhood
on
willow
lane
down
towards
the
green
belt,
so
there
is
ample
evidence
placed
in
the
record
for
this
application
that
shows
a
low
barrier
homeless.
Shelter
will
not
be
compatible
use
for
a
predominantly
residential
area.
If
this
application
were
to
be
granted,
it
asks
way
too
much
of
the
existing
private
property
holders
and
businesses
to
have
to
make
this
type
of
use
fit
into
their
neighborhood.
U
An
economic
injury
to
their
property
jeopardizes
their
financial
future.
Many
of
the
residents
of
the
veterans
park
neighborhood
have
already
witnessed
their
friends
and
neighbors
sell
their
properties
because
of
these
impacts.
These
concerns
are
no
different
than
the
concerns
being
expressed
by
the
properties
and
businesses
near
the
current
ifs,
shelter
location.
U
It
is
unreasonable
to
expect
the
properties
and
businesses
in
the
veterans
park
neighborhood
to
resort
to
these
measures
and
to
accept
a
disruption
in
their
lives
and
interference
with
the
quiet
and
comfortable
enjoyment
of
their
life
and
property,
especially
when
this
specific
type
of
use,
a
low
barrier,
emergency
homeless,
shelter
did
not
exist
when
they
chose
to
acquire
and
invest
in
their
property,
and
this
type
of
use
is
not
an
automatic
by-right
use.
The
commissioners
did
their
duty,
they
respond.
They
are
responsible
for
protecting
from
the
department
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
U
The
policies
for
social
services
in
the
plan
state,
the
location
for
these
services
to
be
downtown
and
for
the
long-standing
president
shows.
This
has
been
adhered
to.
The
evidence
in
the
record
supports
the
defense
defensible
decision
of
deniable
denial
made
by
the
commissioners
and,
on
a
more
personal
note,
my
husband
and
I
have
lived
and
raised
our
family
on
the
will
in
willow
lane
for
the
last
27
years.
U
I've
worked
hard
for
our
home,
my
husband,
and
I
both-
and
I
just
retired
this
year
from
the
boise
school
district.
After
32
years,
we
have
been
looking
forward
to
enjoying
our
retirement
in
our
home,
but
based
on
this
decision,
we
will
sadly
need
to
sell
our
home
and
relocate
completely
out
of
the
area
all
together.
Karen.
V
A
And
I'm
going
to
ask
again
if
I
call
your
name
and
you
have
a
slide,
please
let
josh
know
in
advance
and
there's
also
a
clicker
right
here
that
people
can
use
to
move
their
own
slideshows.
So
we've
got
deborah
frank,
david,
bergrid,
bruce
moore
and
then
jennifer
mcbride.
If
any
of
you
have
slides,
please
let
josh
know.
V
V
It
is
well
understood
that
congregate
shelter
is
unsafe,
with
well
over
205
people
living
in
communal
sleeping
bathing,
recreation
and
dining
arrangements.
We
can
expect
crowded
conditions
that
strip
the
dignity
from
the
very
people
we
hope
to
give
a
hand
up
to.
We
can
also
expect
the
rapid
spread
of
diseases
like
tv,
sars,
coven,
19,
omnicron,
and
now
the
ba2
variant
that
again
highlights
the
uncertainty
of
when
the
pandemic
will
ever
end.
V
Hud
clearly
recommends
a
best
practice
of
individual
bedroom
and
individual
bathroom
hud
has
made
almost
three
million
dollars
available
to
boise
for
the
creation
or
purchase
of
a
non-congregate
shelter
advocacy
groups
for
the
homeless,
government
and
government
agencies.
All
agree
that
non-congregate
shelters
are
the
best
way
to
go
today
and
in
the
future,
the
national
coalition
for
the
homeless
say
large
congregate,
living
shelters
did
not
work
and
we
should
never
go
back
to
those
days.
V
The
national
alliance
for
the
to
end
homeless
speaks
of
an
increased
understanding
that
private
non-congregate
space
has
obvious
benefits
for
people
of
shelter,
kings,
county
home
of
seattle
and
washington
university
even
said
before.
Kovid,
we've
known
that
non-congregate
is
the
best
way
to
proceed.
Even
interfaith
sanctuary
has
agreed
that
the
benefits
of
non-congregate
shelter
have
better
outcome.
V
However,
ifs
stubbornly
plunges
ahead
with
an
inflexible
plan
for
congregate,
shelter
and
without
a
safety
plan
for
the
nearby
residents
neighborhoods
and
businesses.
There
are
no
conditions
that
interface
sanctuary
can
mitigate
to
the
adverse
effects
that
will
overcome
veterans
park
sunset
and
collister
neighborhood.
The
only
the
only
answer
is
a
fundamental
change.
V
A
H
V
I
you
know
at
this
point:
I
would
have
to
go
ahead
and
get
with
my
sunset
neighborhood
veterans
park
in
collister,
and
it
would
be
a
you
know.
As
far
as
my
personal
feeling,
I
would
rather
not
share
that
on
record.
W
My
name
is
dave
burgrood.
I
live
on
willow
lane
about
a
quarter
mile
from
the
shelter,
although
there
are
several
factors
that
are
very
concerning
about
the
shelter
I'd
like
to
bring
out
three
points
that
I
feel
are
quite
relevant.
The
first
one
is:
how
is
the
city
going
to
address
ordinance
5931,
which
is
the
veterans
park,
neighborhood
policy
guide
and
has
been
adapted
by
the
city
and
put
into
the
boise's
comprehensive
plan?
W
W
My
second
thought
is:
I'm
appalled
by
the
appeal
letter
written
by
our
attorney
wordle
on
120
of
22,
stating
that
the
decision
of
the
commission
is
arbitrary,
capricious
or
an
abuse
of
discretion,
in
that
it
was
made
and
reliance
on
irrelevant,
assertations
made
outside
of
record
without
rational
bias
basis
in
a
direct
disregard
of
fact
and
circumstances
presented.
He
also
stated
the
commission
is
not
supported
by
substantial
evidence.
W
W
W
Why
wouldn't
we
look
forward
as
the
visionaries
have
to
put
this
forward
and
use
future
thoughts
to
help
our
future
form
in
a
correct
way?
Here
I
please
deny
this
cup.
I
think
the
ramifications
will
be
substantial
to
the
neighborhood
and
it's
going
to
be
much
easier
to
deny
it
than
try
to
repair
it
after
the
fact.
So.
Thank
you
very
much.
X
X
G
X
X
Y
Jennifer
mcbride
silverlake
lane
in
2019
the
veterans
park
neighborhood
faced
a
similar
development
proposal
for
a
low-budget
motel,
less
than
300
feet
from
the
currently
proposed
site.
It
required
a
cup
which
the
commission
denied
a
motel
and
a
shelter
are
similar
uses,
as
both
are
intended
to
provide
short-term
stays.
A
key
difference
is
that
the
motel
is
considered
a
lower
impact
use
than
a
shelter
home
code
allows
motel
conditionally
in
multi-family
residential
and
are
by
right
in
commercial
districts.
Y
In
contrast,
code
allows
a
shelter
home
conditionally
only
in
commercial
districts.
Mr
wardle
testified
that,
because
the
parcel
in
interfaith's
application
is
zone
c2
where
motels
are
by
right
use,
the
issues
identified
in
the
alamo
submotel
cup
were
moved
as
a
motel
here
would
be
vibrate.
However,
this
is
not
true.
The
proposed
interface
site
is
a
split
zone
parcel
with
25
percent
of
the
land
zone
for
single
family
residential.
Y
So
the
code
requires
an
exception
for
any
development
application
with
c2
use
code
dictates
a
hearing
before
pnz,
at
which
a
proposal
for
any
general
exception
is
judged
against
the
same
decision
criteria
as
a
cup.
The
findings
relied
upon
for
the
denial
of
the
alamosa
motel
proposal
are
very
applicable
to
this
parcel.
Y
Y
Y
The
proposed
use
is
internally
oriented
and
does
not
provide
any
uses
for
the
community
in
summary,
to
approve
the
current
application.
After
denying
the
2019
application
for
a
motel
based
on
its
internally
oriented
character,
lack
of
misused
amenities
for
the
community
and
incompatibility
with
residential
uses
in
the
neighborhood,
it
should
be
denied.
Please
uphold
the
denial
of
the
c.u.p.
A
Z
Hi,
my
name
is
miranda
j.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
on
behalf
of
favor
for
the
appeal
for
interface
sanctuary
in
the
past
four
years
that
I
have
had
the
honor
of
working
at
interface,
sanctuary
I've,
seen
a
growing
need
for
community
resources
and
improved
shelter
services
for
those
experiencing
homelessness.
Z
The
special
needs
of
specific
factions
of
the
homeless
population
become
higher
in
demand,
as
the
numbers
of
those
becoming
homeless
rise.
Families
with
children,
elderly
and
medically
fragile
are
among
these
increasing
numbers
at
rates
I
have
not
previously
experienced
those
with
high
medical
needs
cannot
be
properly
served
with
the
dignity
and
grace
they
deserve
within
the
walls
of
traditional
overnight
emergency
shelters
of
the
past,
but
there's
nowhere
else
for
them
to
go.
Hospitals
can't
keep
them
assisted
living
in
long
term.
Z
Now.
A
person
with
a
recent
leg,
amputation
struggling
to
learn
how
to
function
without
a
limb
discharged
with
continued
open
wounds
from
diabetic
ulcers
in
need
of
in-home
health
wound
care,
pt
and
ot
services
that
are
not
offered
to
someone
if
they
are
residing
in
a
dormitory,
congregate,
sheltered
setting
due
to
hipaa
regulations,
how's
that
person
supposed
to
heal
and
overcome
his
newly
suffered
limitations.
Z
I
field
a
handful
of
calls
and
emails
each
week
from
hospitals
and
professionals
with
more
and
more
cases
just
like
this,
and
without
our
program
they
would
have
nowhere
to
go
one
more
special
case.
I'd
like
to
share
is
that
of
a
man
who
lived
in
northern
idaho
that
became
very
sick
and
was
hospitalized
diagnosed
with
end-stage
renal
disease.
He
was
shipped
here
to
boise,
because
the
intensive
treatment
he
needed
to
stay
alive
was
not
available
up
there
upon
his
release.
Z
Finally,
from
the
hospital,
he
would
need
to
remain
here
where
he
could
get
dialysis
three
times
a
week.
Have
kidney
specialists
working
on
his
case,
though
his
prognosis
is
terminal,
he
would
need
to
engage
in
these
treatments
to
get
as
much
life
as
possible.
He
wasn't
constant
in
excruciating
pain,
confronted
with
his
own
mortality.
Z
He
had
to
make
a
choice
to
remain
here
and
try
to
get
as
much
time
as
he
could
or
if
he
chose
to
go
back
home
to
be
with
his
family,
he
would
not
get
the
needed
care
and
would
quickly
deteriorate
and
die.
The
hospitals
discharged
him
to
shelters
the
only
option
for
housing
here,
as
he
had
no
income
and
no
family
or
friends
in
the
area.
AA
AA
AA
People
are
concerned
about
what's
going
to
happen
because
they
can't
see
it
and
they
can't
feel
it
external
obsolescence
is
what
happens
after
this
sanctuary
is
in
place.
The
diminution
of
value
occurs,
then.
So
what
we
do
know
is
that
state
street
now
has
over
35
000
cars
a
day,
so
that
location
already
experiences
external
obsolescence.
AA
AA
AA
So
what
we
do
know
is
that
the
ada
county
assessor
cannot
discern
stigma
on
the
neighborhoods.
At
this
point,
it's
too
soon
january.
2021
till
now
I
tried
to
pair
real
estate
sales
in
the
neighborhood
from
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
out.
We
know
that
stigma
diminishes
the
farther
away
you
get
and
its
stigma
diminishes
with
time.
AA
AA
I
Vladimir,
yes,
just
a
quick
question
ma'am,
so
so
just
so
that
I
understand
what
you're
saying
what
you're
saying
is,
though
somebody
might
assert.
We
don't
want
this
in
our
neighborhood,
because
the
property
value
will
be
diminished.
What
you're
saying
is
there's
no
evidence
of
that
at
this
point,.
I
AA
AA
AA
AB
I
my
first
remarks
are
regarding
the
outdated,
congregate
housing
mode
in
1970.
I
took
a
job
as
architect
for
the
state
of
idaho
in
the
hilberton
hospital
construction
program
and
the
head
of
the
of
the
department
of
health
proudly
sent
all
new
hires
to
state
school
and
hospital
in
nampa,
which
had
been
a
congregate
care
facility,
and
it
had
recently
undergone
extensive
remodel
to
turn
it
into
more
of
a
residential
kind
of
facility.
AB
The
nurses
there
are
saying
the
praises
of
dr
john
kembrary
who's
headed
that
program,
because
before
the
change
from
congregate
housing,
all
they
really
had
time
to
do
is
see
to
the
physical
care
of
of
the
residents
who
were
development
developmentally
disabled.
After
that
they
had
more
time
to
interact
socially
and
educationally
with
the
same
residents.
AB
So
it
would
seem
that
this
indicates
that
facility
like
this,
which
is
clearly
a
congregate
care
facility,
should
be
denied
to
answer
congressman.
Halliburton's
comment
about
defining
congregate
care,
in
this
case
it
was
large
dormitories
of
large
rooms
of
beds
and
those
were
all
diminished
into
very
much
smaller
living
facilities.
AB
My
next
comment
is
about
design
review.
I
served
the
city
council's
design
review
committee
for
nine
years,
chaired
it
for
seven.
In
that
process
we
had
some
very
successful
ordinances
that
were
passed.
One
was
the
capital
boulevard
ordinance
and
the
other
was
the
landscape
ordinance,
both
of
which
are
now
in
effect
in
the
city
and
both
of
those
were
heavily
involved
with
citizen
and
property
owner
participation
and,
and
we
believe
that
that
led
to
the
really
substantial
success
of
of
those
projects.
AB
In
this
case,
our
design
review
committee
probably
would
have
denied
this
application
and
and
would
have
have
upheld
the
planning
and
zoning
commission's
denial
on
the
basis
first
of
the
sig.
This
is
not
a
design,
a
declining
neighborhood
and,
secondly,
consideration
of
the
volume
of
testimony
of
neighbors
involved,
so
that
that's
probably
how
that
our
design
review
committee
would
have
acted.
In
that
case
time.
AB
A
H
H
Called
me
congressman
earlier,
I'm
going
to
stick
with
city
council,
my
my
question.
You
talked
a
little
bit
about
congregate,
shelter.
I
asked
this
question
earlier
and
so
when
we're
looking
at
this
piece
of
property
and
this
proposal,
what
does
it
take
to
get
this
to
a
design
that
fits
within
the
needs
of
your
definition
of
best
practices?
AB
That's
well
said
the
the
lack
of
shared
space
and
and
the
just
the
population
density
in
such
a
space,
I
think,
contributes
to
the
idea
of
congregate
housing.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
H
AB
J
AC
AC
I
am
an
expert
in
living,
adjacent
to
homeless,
shelters,
500
feet
to
the
north
of
my
front.
Door
is
interface,
sanctuary's
location,
700,
feet
to
the
south,
is
river
of
life.
My
home
faces
river
street
and
is
a
main
thoroughfare
between
river
of
life
and
corpus.
Christi,
I'm
in
my
home
about
21
hours
each
day
more.
If
I
don't
make
it
to
the
gym,
I
walk
my
dogs
in
unpredictable
intervals
between
7
a.m
and
11
p.m.
I
check
my
mail
take
out
my
trash
pick
up
amazon
packages.
AC
AC
When
hyperbolic
opposition
testimony
became
ubiquitous
assault
on
my
social
media
feed,
I
tried
to
mitigate
fantasies
of
danger
and
mayhem
via
facebook
dialogue,
but
to
no
avail.
So
here's
my
chance,
I
have
not
seen
one
needle
condom
human
waste
or
the
like
in
my
walkabouts.
Nothing
has
been
stolen
from
my
front
porch
or
out
of
my
garage.
Despite
opportunities
to
do
so.
I
keep
amazon
very
busy
while
out
walking
my
dogs.
I
have
not
been
catcalled
whistled
at
or
approached
granted.
AC
AC
Thrice
I've
stepped
out,
and
someone
has
been
sitting
on
my
stairs
that
lead
to
the
sidewalk,
I'm
quick
to
invite
them
to
stay
for
as
long
as
they
like
to
rest
recharge
in
all
cases,
they've
quickly,
apologized
and
left.
My
dogs
enjoy
meeting
the
neighbors,
homed
and
unhomed
alike
a
few
times.
People
have
told
me
that
the
kindness
of
these
little
canines
has
given
them
something
to
live
for
or
hope
for.
AC
One
man
who
appeared
homeless
offered
me
his
parka
when
I
mistook
sunshine
for
warmth
and
went
outside
jacketless.
These
are
some
anecdotes
from
my
4000
or
so
data
points
most
days.
There's
nothing
to
report
no
impacts
to
my
day
or
night.
My
property
value
has
skyrocketed,
the
dogs
are
socialized,
my
daughter
and
I
feel
safe,
and
the
only
blight
on
my
block
are
the
geese.
Don't
get
me
started
on
that?
AC
I
know
this.
I
live
this.
I
will
miss
my
neighbors
from
interfaith
when
they
move
to
the
new
location
and
I'm
a
bit
concerned
about
what
their
absence
will
mean.
But
I
know
their
neighbors
will
eventually
come
to
see
them,
as
I
do
just
humans
doing
their
best
to
make
it
through
the
day.
Without
being
causing
or
inviting
trouble,
thank
you
thank
you.
AD
I
live
right
off
of
state
and
pierce
park.
I
grew
up
in
denver.
I've
lived
in
chicago
I've
lived
in
san
francisco,
hollister
is
considered
one
of
the
safest
neighborhoods
in
boise,
and
often
I
have
taken
late
night
walks
with
no
concern
a
homeless.
Shelter
in
the
vicinity
would
change
that
and
much
more
just.
The
rumor
of
this
shelter
made
tom
feel
he
needed
to
close
his
farmer's
market
on
40th
and
state.
AD
AD
AD
I
am
all
for
helping
people
who
are
proactive
and
helping
themselves,
but
I
am
not
in
favor
of
watching
my
neighborhood
put
in
danger
by
housing.
Those
who
can't
care
or
choose
not
to
care,
I
feel
the
same
about
the
camping
village
that
was
downtown
feces
trash
no
regard
for
property
is
not
the
way
for
them
to
achieve
their
goals.
AD
What
happened
downtown
will
happen
in
collister.
Any
person
thinking
collister
will
be
immune,
is
naive.
The
evidence
here
and
the
evidence
is
here
and
in
every
major
city.
Those
involved
who
think
their
plan
will
not
impact
hollister
negatively
should
experiment
with
their
own
neighborhoods.
First,
there
are
successful
programs
in
cities.
It's
time
the
city's
reached
out
to
each
other
sharing
what
does
and
doesn't
work.
AD
A
AE
Okay,
hi
hi
there
I'm
paula
forney.
I
live
in
the
tavola
gardens
area,
which
is
in
the
lake
harbor
area.
The
claim
by
interfaith
sanctuary,
the
p
and
z
denial
of
their
application
to
open
a
large
low
barrier
homeless.
Shelter
in
a
residential
neighborhood
was
not
supported
by
substantial
and
competent
evidence
is
truly
false.
AE
AE
The
following
map,
selected
pl,
select,
shows
the
type
of
police
calls
that
are
made
with
the
west
state
street
proposed
location
on
the
left
and
the
current
ifs
location
on
the
right.
This
map
shows
calls
related
to
violent
crimes
with
a
high
concentration
surrounding
ifs,
the
next
slide.
Okay,
this
map
shows
alcohol
and
narcotic
violations
at
both
locations
with
a
high
concentration
surrounding
ifs,
even
compared
to
the
bars
present
in
the
state
street
location
in
the
radius
property
crime
is
one
of
the
few
impacts
emergency
shelters
have
on
surrounding
areas.
AE
H
AE
It's
the
ridgeways
2018
study.
I
think
you
can
find
it
on
the
internet.
Thank
you.
Conversely,
they
found
that
in
commercial
areas,
the
rates
of
breaking
in
entry
were
34
percent,
lower
surrounded
if
they
were
surrounded
by
a
homeless,
shelter,
an
emergency
shelter.
They
speculated
that
this
could
be
due
to
the
financial
ability
of
businesses
to
invest
in
security
systems.
AE
AE
These
are
already
vulnerable,
neighbors
and
neighborhoods,
and
we
ask
them
to
carry
a
tremendous
burden
if
interfaith
sanctuary
is
approved
for
this
location,
as
shown
in
the
previous
testimony,
they
will
have
to
deal
directly
with
increased
police
calls
and
police
present,
as
chief
lee
clearly
stated
that
the
move
from
west
downtown
to
the
new
location
would
have
they'll
have
to
deal
with
an
increase
in
sirens,
and
this
will
have
a
direct
negative
consequence
to
these
extremely
vulnerable
people
in
these
neighborhoods.
Thank.
A
AE
A
Kathy
bernie
and
then
karen
smith,
scott
bernie,
francis
for
sarah,
if
you'd
be
ready
to
come
on
up
that'd,
be
great.
AF
Good
morning,
I'm
kathy
bernie
and
I
live
in
the
collister
neighborhood.
Just
because
c2
zoning
can
be
conditionally
allowed
for
use
does
not
mean
it
should
be.
A
conditional
use
is
to
evaluate
how
a
type
of
use
is
or
is
not
in
harmony
with
the
existing
land
uses
in
the
area
to
determine
if
the
use
may
or
may
not
be
compatible.
AF
The
instantly
recognizable
lack
of
compatibility
with
an
area
that
is
predominantly
residential
cannot
be
mitigated.
Nor
can
conditions
ensure
that
the
health
and
safety
risks
do
not
adversely
affect
the
economic
viability
of
the
existing
businesses,
because
the
record
shows
this
type
of
use
can
deter
customers
from
frequenting
businesses.
AF
AF
AG
I'm
speaking
for
myself
and
on
behalf
of
folks
who
find
themselves
unhoused
in
our
city,
and
I
support
the
approval
of
the
proposed
location
in
my
written
testimony
earlier.
I
outlined
some
ideas
for
some
incentives
and
compensations.
The
city
could
offer
neighborhoods
that
are
in
the
position
of
taking
on
a
shelter
or
a
low-income
housing
project,
and
I
won't
repeat
those
because
I
did
discuss
those
at
length
in
my
letter,
but
I'm
speaking
out,
because
I
have
kind
of
a
unique
perspective.
As
a
lifelong
citizen
of
boise,
I've
lived
in
many
neighborhoods
in
boise.
AG
I
primarily
was
raised
in
the
swanky
neighborhoods
in
foothills,
but
I
currently
now
by
choice.
I've
lived
in
the
sycamore
neighborhood
for
23
years,
where
I
specifically
have
some
insight
is
that
my
father
used
to
own
a
building
where
hotel,
20
hotel
43
now
stands
there
near
the
grove,
which
was
demolished
in
urban
renewal
back
in
the
70s.
AG
And
I
would
say
that
one
unintended
consequence
of
the
connector
being
built
was
that
it
created
a
very
natural
shelter
for
people
that
had
been
sleeping
out
or
needed
a
way
to
get
out
of
the
elements
that
suddenly
we
had
a
very
visible
place
where
we
saw
a
congregation
of
people
who
were
homeless
and
it
really
brought
it
to
the
attention
of
the
city.
AG
We
not
started
more
noticing
more
homeless
people
in
the
library
and
other
places,
and
we
saw
many
versions
of
approaches
to
try
to
fix
it,
which
included
the
community
house
which
ultimately
failed,
which
was
the
city's
attempt
at
creating
a
addressing
the
homeless
problem
that
was
taken
over
by
the
rescue
mission
and
full
disclosure.
My
husband
worked
for
the
rescue
mission
for
a
while.
He
also
worked
as
a
social
worker
for
the
terry
reilly
clinic,
so
I
do
have
a
little
insight
there,
I'm
not
completely
just
shooting
from
the
hip.
AG
So
what
I
saw
happen
was
out
of
the
blue
by
the
grace
of
god.
Interfaith
sanctuary
arrived
and
did
an
amazing
job
in
corpus,
christi
house
of
addressing
the
situation.
AG
A
AH
My
name
is
scott
bernie
and
I
live
in
the
veterans
park.
Neighborhood
boise
city
code,
section
11030413,
covers
exceptions.
The
code
shown
here
specifies
that
the
purpose
is
to
allow
conditioned
uses
that
are
of
equal
or
lesser
impact
than
the
that
are
equal
or
lesser
impact
than
the
allowed
use
and
benefit
the
immediate
community.
This
applies
to
both
general
and
specific
exceptions.
Mr
wardle
stated
that
the
use
is
planned
on
the
r1
c
zone.
AH
AH
Not
to
be
dismissed
is
just
an
outbuilding.
This
section
includes
the
proposed
day,
shelter
replacing
access
to
corpus
christi,
and
it
includes
the
outdoor
congregation
area
for
over
the
200
shelter
guests.
It
includes
both
the
garbage
enclosure
servicing
the
entire
site,
which
has
the
potential
to
generate
odor
or
pest
issues
and
the
large
bike
storage
area
and,
finally,
the
small
play
area
serving
50
to
75
children
based
on
the
large
population
size.
All
of
these
uses
are
much
higher
intensity
and
impact
than
allowed
single-family
uses.
AH
AH
Here's
a
list
of
all
the
allowed
and
contin
conditionally
allowed
uses
in
an
r1c
as
a
reminder.
No
shelter
homes
are
permitted
in
an
r1c
zone.
At
all,
we've
highlighted
child
care
uses
as
an
example
of
how
increased
intensity
of
use
comes
with
increased
requirements
day
care
centers
over
six
children
or
group
homes.
Over
12
children
require
conditional
use
permits
larger
day
care.
Centers
come
with
additional
restrictions
to
accommodate
the
higher
intensity
of
use,
including
minimum
play
area
size,
which
this
proposal
does
not
comply
with.
AH
Whereas
many
of
the
less
intuitive
allowed
uses
would
there
are
absolutely
no
conditions
which
could
proactively
eliminate
the
increased
crime
and
certainly
not
the
intrinsic
impact
of
adding
over
205
impoverished
residents
to
an
already
impoverished
neighborhood.
You
must
uphold
pnz's
decision
decision
and
deny
this
appeal.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
AI
You
hear
me
now
yeah.
Okay,
thanks
should
I
start
over
go
ahead:
okay,
francis
rosary,
I
in
hollister
neighborhood,
my
daughter
and
my
four
grandkids
19
months
to
11
years,
live
less
than
one
football
field
from
the
proposed
site
prior
to
covid.
I
volunteered
at
the
sanctuary
for
over
10
years.
I
support
causes
to
help
the
homeless
with
time
money
and
supplies
prior
to
2013,
boise
city
code
included
very
specific
language,
for
a
conditional
use
permit
to
ensure
the
surrounding
property
interests
were
protected.
AI
The
code
used
the
term
justification
and
described
the
permit,
as
quote
conditional
uses
by
definition,
possess
characteristics
such
to
require
review
and
appraisal
by
the
commission
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
use
would
cause
any
damage
hazard,
nuisance
or
other
detriment
to
persons
or
property
in
the
vicinity.
Unquote,
this
language
was
replaced
with
the
broad
statement,
sorry
of
possible
adverse
impacts,
but
just
because
the
specific,
descriptive
words
have
been
removed,
thus
making
the
required
analysis
less
transparent.
AI
AI
The
intensity
of
this
proposed
use
for
a
predominantly
residential
area
will
create
frequent
opportunities
for
residents
to
be
exposed
to
public
safety
and
nuisance
activities
and
violations
such
as
discarded
drug
paraphernalia,
public
intoxication
public,
urination
and
feces,
and
other
indecent
behaviors
records
show
these
nuisance
activities
have
been
happening
for
the
properties
near
the
sanctuary
location.
Currently.
AI
Also,
the
intensity
of
this
use
will
subject
the
properties
adjacent
to
the
proposed
location,
with
excessive
noise
offensive
language
and
large
amounts
of
second
hand
smoke
from
cigarettes.
The
neighborhood
as
a
whole
will
be
subject
to
a
significant
increase
in
disruptive
activity
24
hours
a
day,
as
documented
by
the
high
level
of
first
responder
activity.
This
type
of
use
creates
records
clearly
show
this
type
of
use,
creates
both
private
and
public
nuisance
impacts.
AI
AJ
A
AJ
Madam
maron
city
council,
thank
you.
My
name
is
elaine
garris
and
I
live
in
the
collister
neighborhood.
AJ
AJ
The
nearby
residential
and
small
business
neighbors
have
every
right
to
expect
a
well
thought
out
plan
from
the
developer
of
a
high
density
building
with
a
frequent
turnover
of
guests.
The
planned
parking
capacity
for
guests
and
employees
is
unrealistically
low.
Neighbors
mentioned
the
vehicles
that
park
on
the
streets
close
to
the
current
ifs,
shelter
interfaith,
replied
that
those
vehicles
belong
to
individuals
who
might
choose
to
sleep
in
them
and
not
at
the
shelter,
and
they
are
not
responsible
for
them.
This
is
true,
but
developers
are
rightly
held
to
realistic
parking
standards,
as
proposed.
AJ
It
leaves
a
residential
area
having
to
deal
with
non-residents
using
parking
that
is
now
utilized
by
the
neighborhood.
A
neighbor
cited
the
boise
city
animal
code,
which
requires
a
non-commercial
license
for
any
household
that
harbors
more
than
four
dogs
or
five
cats
or
a
maximum
of
10
animals.
The
code
stipulates
all
dogs
must
be
licensed,
neighbors
must
give
written
permission
and
other
rules,
since
ifs
allows
guests
to
bring
service
animals
with
them,
and
even
if
only
10
percent
have
animals
at
the
205
person
limit,
the
maximum
number
will
be
exceeded
interfaith
touted.
AJ
AJ
It
was
plain
they'd
not
considered
this
basic
fact.
I
would
feel
more
confident
of
ifs
ability
to
be
a
responsible
neighbor.
If
I
had
not
witnessed
many
important
details
that
had
been
overlooked,
we
are
asked
to
have
a
little
faith
in
interfaith,
but
that's
just
a
catchy
little
phrase
that
until
real
work
goes
into
planning
for
and
mitigating
potential
problems,
instead
of
recognition
of
possible
problems
and
willingness
to
mitigate
concerns,
the
neighbors
heard
accusations
of
their
lack
of
compel
of
empathy
for
the
unhoused
and
emotional
statements,
in
which
ifs
praised
itself.
AJ
AL
Nancy
albert
and
I
live
at
harbor
lane
area
applicants
stated
trust
us
we'll
have
a
good
plan.
The
applicant
not
having
provided
any
security
and
safety
information
to
show
sufficient
mitigation
of
adverse
impacts
and
undue
burdens
first
tries
to
split
hairs
on
terminology.
Then
say
those
plans
are
confidential.
AL
Knowing
the
weakness
of
those
claims,
the
applicant
then
resorts
again
to
platitudes
and
hollow
inadmissible
claims.
The
applicant
state
attempts
to
have
us
believe
that
they
will
have
good
safety
security
plans,
even
though
the
record
shows
no
meaningful
actions
towards
that.
Saying
quote
even
before
submitting
its
application,
interface
sanctuary
had
developed
and
implemented
comprehensive
safety
and
security
policies
for
its
current
river
street
location,
and
that
excuse
me,
these
policies
were
developed
in
consult
in
consultation
with
global
recognized
experts
that
those
same
security
industry
leaders
have
been
engaged
in
development
of
detailed
safety
and
security
policies.
AL
AL
It
is
perhaps,
as
oph
leader
testified,
that
these
purported
plans
might
have
to
change
and
might
have
to
be
more
extensive
or
that
these
are
the
plans
that
led
the
applicant
to
release
a
guest
within
applicant's
words,
profound
mental
illness,
which
caused
horrific
actions
and
unthinkable
results
in
lieu
of
these
additional
information
on
safety
and
security.
The
applicant
then
wishes
us
to
believe
that
quote
interface
sanctuary
takes
the
security
of
its
neighborhood
seriously.
AL
Yet,
as
this
were,
if
this
were
true,
why
were
the
numerous
requests
for
security
and
safety,
information
from
the
public
agencies
and
others
over
an
11-month
period?
Not
meaningfully
responded
to?
Why
were
no
security
and
safety
plans
provided
for
review
of
other
wise
included
in
the
record?
It
is
impossible
to
trust
that
the
applicant's
comments
regarding
neighborhood
safety
and
security
as
they
are
contradictory
in
a
neighborhood
meeting.
The
applicant's
executive
director
first
says
we're
not
going
to
leave
the
problem
outside
the
outside
is
as
as
important
to
us
as
the
inside.
AL
If
it's
our
neighborhood
too,
and
we
promise
you
that
we
will
do
everything
we
can
to
protect
the
value
of
your
neighborhood
and
to
protect
the
safety
of
your
neighborhood,
she
later
contradicts
herself
saying
that
they
are
not
in
the
business
of
securing
an
entire
neighborhood.
So
what
can
we
believe
simply
put?
The
record
has
no
meaningful
information
that
shows
that
adverse
effects
on
properties
in
the
vicinity
will
be
sufficiently
mitigated
hollow
promises
and
empty
words
does
not
change
the
fact.
Thank.
A
AM
AM
AM
I
was
concerned
about
a
mobile
home
parked
against
the
fence
that
it
would
start
a
fire
and
burn
the
house
down
and
after
seven
years
it
did
happen,
the
gal
that
was
living
in
there.
It
was
a
crack
house.
She
set
the
motor
home
on
fire
and
almost
burned
the
house
down.
Finally,
the
place
sold
and
I
got
rid
of
the
problem
of
a
crack
house
next
to
me.
So
the
city
police-
I
you
know,
I
don't-
have
much
store
in
in
solving
problems
with
them
and
then
also
three
years
ago.
AM
AM
He
had
a
red
hoodie
and
I
traveled
a
lot
quite
a
bit
and
I
come
back
and
I
found
out
this
guy
he'd
been
living
down
by
the
river
homeless
and
he'd
gotten
into
a
housing
project
and
he
stabbed
four
children
and
killed
a
four-year-old,
and
I
don't
want
those
people
in
our
neighborhood
and
lastly,
I'll
make
an
easy
vote
for
you,
guys
ada,
county
highway
or
80
counties
now
has
a
conditional
youth
permit
applied
for
a
winery
in
ada
county
and
their
prerequisite
is
that
75
percent
of
the
landowners
next
to
it
have
to
agree
with
it.
A
AN
My
name
is
eleanor
chihi.
I
am
the
board
secretary
for
interfaith
sanctuary,
housing
services.
We
have
challenges
serving
the
aging
population
on
fixed
incomes
who
are
being
forced
out
of
their
housing
and
ending
up
in
the
shelter
system.
They
are.
These
are
retired,
neighbors,
now
living
on
their
social
security,
which
is
no
longer
enough
in
the
current
housing
market.
They
have
health
issues,
mobility
issues
and
they
are
scared.
AN
AN
AN
Staff
helps
her
to
bathe,
make
sure
she
is
coming
out
of
her
room
and
joining
the
families
with
children
for
meals.
She
is
a
beloved
member
of
this
hotel
village
and
has
become
the
grandma
to
many
of
the
children
living
in
the
hotel
shelter.
She
has
gone
from
being
sad
and
frightened
to
finding
purpose
and
connection
with
the
other
seniors
and
families
we
are
serving.
We
could
not
serve
her
and
others
like
her
in
our
river
street
shelter.
AN
It
is
one-third
the
size
of
the
salvation
army
store
and
cannot
provide
the
space
and
privacy
to
provide
to
receive
home
health
and
stay
in
for
24
hours
a
day.
I
have
to
tell
you
that
before
coven
our
guests
in
this
interf
in
the
river
street,
shelter
we're
living
in
bunk
beds
three
feet
apart
and
165
people
in
a
ten
thousand
square
foot,
building
that
that's
as
tight
as
the
fire
marshal
would
allow
us
to
poke
him
in
there.
AN
The
salvation
army
store
would
provide
space
for
a
small
medical
clinic
and
a
senior
dorm
with
activities
and
programming.
We
have
a
partnership
with
the
family
practice
residency
to
provide
medical
care
at
the
shelter
when
needed.
They
would
continue
to
serve
at
the
salvation
army
store
if
we
move
there.
This
past
year
we
had
three
guests
at
our
hotel,
shelter
with
terminal
illness,
one
of
them
a
dad
with
a
wife
and
two
young
children.
Hospice
was
brought
in
to
care
for
these
guests.
AN
They
received
comfort
care
and
peace,
as
their
lives
came
to
an
end.
They
were
surrounded
by
our
loving
guests
and
the
father
before
passing,
thanked
us
for
giving
him
peace
of
mind
as
he
was
leaving
his
family,
knowing
that
they
would
be
safe
and
supported.
These
are
family.
These
are
services
that
need
to
be
available
for
our
growing
population
of
seniors
and
chronically
ill
in
the
homeless
community.
The
recent
conversions
of
assisted
living.
AG
AN
A
Sure
eleanor
will
you
take
a
question
from
the
council
member.
AN
H
H
Will
be
able
to
better
better
serve
the
needs
of
its
people,
all
in
one
location
versus
at
that
location
and
hotels.
AN
K
AN
We
had
a
hundred
and
sixty-five
people
in
our
river
street
shelter
before
kovitz.
We
did,
we
separated
them
out,
put
some
in
the
in
the
hotels
and
we
have
as
people
as
more
families
became
homeless
because
they
got
priced
out
of
their
houses.
AN
AO
96,
being
families
with
children,
34
being
medically
fragile
and
then
private
rooms
for
24.,
it's
probably
complicated,
but
it
designates
for
different
populations
of
service,
the
largest
population
being
families
with
children
got
it.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome.
A
Okay
with
that,
I
was
wrong,
we're
actually
going
to
take
a
break
now
and
I
pass
over
paul
by
accident.
So
we'll
start
with
paul.
I
think
it's
gail,
but
I'm
not
positive,
so
great
and
then
we'll
so
we'll
start
with
paul
and
followed
by
gretchen,
and
then
I've
got
this
next
list
and
we
are
back
in
45
minutes
see
you
soon.
E
E
E
A
Oh
there
you
are
so
you're,
we've
got
two
and
six
so
eight
before
you.
E
E
E
A
Well,
welcome
back
everybody
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
get
started
for
those
of
you
that
are
on
zoom,
I'm
just
gonna,
repeat
something,
and
I'm
going
to
read
it
again
that
I
said
this
morning.
A
We
are
first
finishing
up
the
list
of
folks
in
person
and
then
we'll
move
into
the
folks
that
are
on
zoom.
But
there's
a
live
stream
of
this
meeting
and
all
of
the
public
hearings
for
the
interfaith
sanctuary
via
live
stream.
Or
you
can
play
it
back
at
the
city
of
boise
public
meetings.
Youtube
channel
so
because
of
the
number
of
people
wanting
to
testify
on
zoom.
A
Once
I've
called
upon
you
or
the
clerk
has
and
you're
done
and
we'll
be
removing
you
from
zoom
and
asking
you
to
go
over
to
the
youtube
channel
to
watch
and
we're
doing
this
so
that
we
can
better
manage
the
flow
of
folks
that
still
need
to
be
called
on
on
zoom
and
for
those
of
you
on
zoom
that
aren't
parties
for
those
of
you
on
zoom
that
aren't
parties
of
record.
The
clerk
will
note
that
you're,
not
a
party
of
record
and
remove
you
from
the
zoom.
A
So
if
suddenly
you're
no
longer
on
zoom
know
that
that
was
done
intentionally
and
you
can
go
over
to
the
youtube
channel
to
watch
the
proceedings
from
there
and
with
that,
we
will
pick
up
with
paul.
A
AP
A
AP
AP
AP
AP
AP
I
hope
that
everyone
understands
that
the
only
way
to
manage
a
large
and
or
permanent
mistake
is
to
avoid
making
that
mistake
in
the
first
place.
This
is
a
crucial
moment
and
perhaps
your
only
opportunity
to
protect
dozens
of
businesses
and
hundreds
of
residents
from
the
admittedly
well-meaning,
but
perhaps
overly
ambitious
applicant.
AP
AP
AP
AQ
Hoyt
891
north
lander
street,
madam
mayor
city,
council.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
We
are
at
a
critical
crossroads
in
boise's
growth.
The
overwhelmingly
negative
response
from
the
neighbors
to
interfaith
alliance's
cup
is
due
mostly
to
the
low
barrier
portion
of
the
guests.
The
interfaith
serves.
This
ferocious
resistance
will
be
the
case
anywhere.
A
large
congregate,
low
barrier,
shelter
is
proposed.
The
only
workable
solution
that
seems
possible
is
to
separate
those
needing
low
barrier
sheltering
from
the
majority
of
the
homeless
population.
AQ
Interfaith
alliance
has
provided
a
much
needed
service
to
boise
for
over
16
years,
but
its
current
operating
model
is
outdated.
That
model
is
the
impetus
to
many
unmitigateable
events.
The
cup
denial
must
stand,
but
madam
mayor
and
city
council
denial
of
the
cup
is
a
blessing
to
all
of
us.
It
is
the
opportunity
that
we
need
to
create
a
sustainable
shelter
system.
AQ
The
journey
to
creating
this
shelter
in
boise
started
in
1880
at
the
poor
farm
out
by
what
is
now
cynthia
mann's
school
over
the
next
142
years.
More
organizations
that
can
be
listed
in
three
minutes
sprang
to
life,
aiding
the
downtrodden
in
recent
years,
andrew
beck,
the
corporation
for
supportive
housing,
dr
alquist,
the
pacific
companies,
just
to
name
a
few,
have
also
brought
their
knowledge
and
skills
in
an
effort
to
end
homelessness.
AQ
Madam
mayor
city,
council,
now
is
the
time
for
your
decisive
and
strong
leadership.
All
parties
needed
to
design
a
workable,
sustainable
shelter
system
are
already
here
working
diligently
to
end
the
homeless
issue.
That
very
complicated
work
is
coordinated
by
your
own,
our
path
home.
They
have
created
an
amazing
public
and
private
partnership
of
almost
every
organization
in
town
involved
in
this
issue.
AQ
The
combined
talents,
caring
and
philanthropy
of
these
groups
and
individuals
can
surely
find
a
way
to
build
a
shelter
system
that
works
for
everyone
in
boise
and
possibly
beyond
a
person
who
has
their
finger
firmly
on
the
pulse
of
boise,
told
me.
It
may
be
too
late
for
in
the
game
for
these
ideas,
but
the
optimist
in
me
sees
an
unprecedented
assembly
of
groups
and
sensibilities
all
aligned
to
create
a
shelter
system
that
works
for
boise
as
a
whole.
AQ
H
Oh
well,
maybe
I
don't
know
so,
there's
there's
lots
of
different
elements
that
would
create
a
better
shelter
system,
one
of
the
ones
that
I
think
that
you
talked
about
at
the
very
beginning,
was
separating
low
barrier
from
other
types
of
shelters.
Am
I
understanding
that
correctly?
And
if
so,
can
you
explain
that
a
little
bit
more.
AQ
Hard,
but
so
my
what
I
see
isn't
necessarily
five
shelters.
All
of
my
reading
shows
that
money
and
staffing
are
an
issue
for
that
number,
but
I
do
believe
that
there
are
please
neighbors,
don't
shoot
me
in
the
back.
I
do
believe
there
is
a
lot
of
use
for
the
state
street
site,
it's
large
enough
for
families
and
cooking
and
tatting
and
dog
grooming,
and
whatever
I
mean
I
think
jody.
AQ
I
think
your
ideas
are
wonderful,
it's
just
too
big
and
too
much
and
too
fast
to
try
to
stand
up
safely
as
a
nurse
who
dealt
with
many
homeless
issues
over
30
years,
putting
a
woman
and
children
under
the
same
roof
with
someone
who
doesn't
who
wants
to
sleep
rough,
they
don't
necessarily
want
to
be
there.
It's
not
safe
and
comfortable
for
them.
So
my
thought
is
at
this
point,
since
we
wouldn't
have
to
go
through
all
this
move.
AQ
The
bulk
of
people
out
to
state
street
build
a
power
building
that
works,
but
not
all
of
them.
Let
the
low
barrier
sheltering
people
who
need
it
stay
where
they
are
sounds
like
the
miller
family
will
allow
that
to
happen.
For
a
little
while
in
that
location,
so
that
decreases
the
population
on
state
street
lets
the
people
who
want
to
sleep
rough
they're
already
there.
AQ
H
AR
And
can
you
please
pull
up
the
slide
back
title
cp
21
dash,
yeah,
perfect.
AR
AR
AR
Sarah
christensen,
who
worked
to
interfaith
for
six
years,
provided
two
written
testimonies
that
object
to
this
application.
She
emphasized
that
moving
the
shelter
far
from
downtown
was
not
good
for
the
homeless
community
because
it
would
move
them
far
from
already
established
social
services,
as
well
as
our
community
of
homeless
residents
who
spend
their
time
downtown.
AR
AR
AR
AR
Perhaps
the
most
alarming
is
the
anonymous
testimony
of
a
former
ifs
employee
that
was
read
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
They
stated
quote
the
response
of
ifs
leadership
to
many
situations
has
been
unacceptable.
End
quote:
they
described
a
situation
where
a
man
with
meth
in
his
room,
overdosed
in
front
of
an
area
where
children
stay
ifs
leadership
took
the
man
back
into
the
shelter
when
he
was
in
clear
need
of
medical
attention.
AR
AR
They
also
reported
that
at
least
two
registered
sex
offenders
stayed
in
close
proximity
of
children.
During
2020,
they
described
older
children
and
adults
displaying
abusive
sexual
behavior
to
children
that
included
exposure
to
graphic
sexual
language,
imagery
of
sexual
intercourse
and
physical
sexual
abuse.
This
type
of
behavior
does
not
belong
in
any
neighborhood.
Please
uphold
the
commission's
decision.
Thank
you.
AS
If
you
could
open
the
slide,
please
thank
you
hi,
my
name
is
kelsey
burke
and
I
live
in
the
veterans
park.
Neighborhood
many
professionals
with
a
lifetime
of
experience
working
with
vulnerable
populations
question
the
applicant's
proposal
to
place
such
an
intense
concentration
of
guests
into
such
a
vulnerable
community.
Supporting
the
commission's
decision
to
deny
this
eup.
AS
While
several
public
testimonies
of
opposition
came
from
former
law
enforcement
officers
of
particular
note
was
john
foster,
with
35
years
of
law
enforcement
experience
and
18
years
as
the
chief
of
police
of
a
california
city.
During
that
time,
he
created
and
implemented
a
cup
and
a
good
neighbor
agreement
of
the
city's
first
homeless
shelter.
AS
He
advocates
for
holding
the
guests
of
any
homeless
shelter
accountable
for
their
behavior
to
ensure
the
safety
and
security
of
both
the
shelter
residents
and
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
a
reason
that
planning
and
zoning
commission
found
the
found
to
found
to
be
adversely
impactful
to
the
surrounding
area.
He
questioned
why
the
boise
police
department
would
take
a
neutral
stance
in
light
of
the
adverse
impacts
that
interfaith
causes
at
its
current
location,
as
well
as
the
high
police
call
volumes
to
the
current
facility.
AS
He
also
shed
light
on
a
statement
made
by
chief
lee
that
not
all
calls
for
service
are
crime
related,
and
I
quote,
while
that
may
be
true,
many
calls
for
service
are
quality
of
life
concerns.
The
quality
of
life
call
is
made
by
a
citizen
who
fears
who's
unsafe
or
feels
unsafe.
These
type
of
calls
can
demoralize
residents
and
businesses,
and
if
they
are
not
addressed,
studies
have
shown
they
can
increase
to
more
serious
crimes.
AS
AS
The
public
comments
also
include
at
least
19
social
workers,
medical
professionals
or
those
working
in
social
service
fields,
with
years
of
professional
experience
working
with
the
target
population.
Each
of
these
professionals
are
opposed
to
the
project.
I
have
provided
citations
for
each
of
these
commentaries.
If
you
would
like
to
read
them,
apparently
ifs
does
not
recognize
these
lay
testimonies
as
having
merit,
but
clearly
the
commission
did
when
they
denied
the
application.
I
urge
you
to
please
uphold
their
decision.
Thank
you.
A
AT
Have
slides
too
yup?
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
council
members.
My
name
is
barrett
norman.
I'm
a
member
of
the
veterans
park,
neighborhood
association,
I'm
also
a
donor
monthly
to
catch.
The
purpose
of
boise's
development
code
requires
stimulating
economic
opportunity
and
promoting
diverse
inclusive
communities
with
a
variety
of
housing
choices.
AT
However,
the
planning
and
zoning
committee
found
that
this
project,
and
I
quote,
would
greatly
and
adversely
impact
and
endanger
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
harm
the
retention,
growth
and
profitability
of
existing
businesses.
End
quote:
this
is,
in
addition
to
testimony
on
record
that
the
project
exacerbates
housing
segregation.
AT
Our
neighborhood
already
has
greater
than
30
poverty,
which
is
50
to
200
percent
greater
than
any
surrounding
neighborhood,
clearly
showing
that
poverty
is
being
segregated
in
our
neighborhood,
poverty
is
coupled
with
a
struggle
for
educational
attainment
having
among
the
lowest
high
school
graduation
rates
and
at
taft
among
the
lowest
reading
scores.
It
is
clear
that
our
neighborhood
is
already
struggling
to
provide
economic
opportunity
for
our
children
as
a
respected.
Pew
trust
shares
quote
neighborhood
economic
segregation
is
linked
with
economic
mobility.
It
is
the
degree
to
which
most
which
neighborhoods
are
economically
segregated.
AT
That
matters
most
the
government
opportunity
atlas
tool
is
a
census
tract
level
data
set,
showing
children's
outcomes
in
adulthood
at
age
35
such
as
earning
power
at
rates
as
they
correlate
to
their
parents,
income,
race,
gender,
etc.
When
they
were
children,
this
tool
allows
us
to
trace
the
roots
of
today's
affluence
and
poverty
back
to
neighborhoods,
where
people
grew
up
and
identify
areas
where
children
are
not
rising
out
of
poverty,
areas
that
need
more
help.
AT
This
is
reflected
in
the
planning
and
zoning
finding
that
the
project
endangers
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
damages
the
viability
of
local
businesses
to
allow
our
families
to
have
the
opportunity
required
by
boise
code.
The
ifs
appeal
should
be
denied
no
simple
conditions,
except
for
placing
it
in
a
more
wealthy
neighborhood
can
address
such
a
dramatic
risk
to
our
children's
opportunity.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AU
Good
afternoon,
mayor
and
city
council,
my
name
is
nisa
jensen,
I'm
here
today.
As
the
official
representative
of
the
boise
ada
county
homeless
coalition,
our
coalition
is
made
up
of
more
than
50
members,
including
most
of
the
agencies
and
organizations
in
our
valley
that
work
with
those
experiencing
homelessness.
AU
AU
It
will
vastly
improve
their
ability
to
provide
a
wide
array
of
services
and
programming
that
will
not
only
provide
shelter
but
will
also
aid
individuals
and
families
in
finding
and
keeping
permanent
housing
solutions
with
support
education
and
training.
To
help
these
folks
be
successful,
such
a
shelter
site
adheres
to
industry,
accepted
best
practice
standards
and
will
help
our
city
serve
our
vulnerable
population,
which
is
the
most
important
piece
of
this
entire
process.
AU
Compassionate
shelter
for
those
in
need.
Please
never
lose
sight
of
that
goal.
This
is
not
a
zero-sum
game.
You
can
and
should
approve
this
permit,
while
also
exploring
potential
every
potential
option
available
to
house
folks
of
all
income
levels
and
needs,
including
any
people
experiencing
homelessness,
who
end
up
not
being
served
by
ifs.
AU
According
to
a
recent
statement
from
catch,
we
currently
have
2
400
people
who
have
no
home
at
this
moment
in
the
treasure
valley,
ifs
is
serving,
but
a
portion
of
those.
So,
of
course,
we
and
you
will
continue
working
as
hard
as
we
can
to
make
sure
everyone
is
sheltered,
but
let's
focus
on
mitigating
the
harm
to
the
most
vulnerable
first.
Thank
you.
AV
I'm
brian
deese
I
live
at
on
willow
lane
in
the
veterans
park.
Neighborhood
association
interfaith
claims
that
pnz
the
pnz
commission
disregarded
the
testimony
of
boise's
fire
and
police
department.
This
simply
is
not
true.
Even
though
interfaith
sanctuary
generates
a
high
volume
of
emergency
service
calls,
both
departments
took
a
neutral
stance
on
the
on
the
proposed
move,
stating
that
overall
city-wide
services
would
not
be
affected,
because
resources
would
simply
shift
from
shoreline
to
state
street.
This
acknowledgment
that
an
appreciable
level
of
resources
would
follow.
AV
AV
Chief
lee
stated
in
his
testimony
that
the
department
had
no
intention
of
staffing
the
vacant
substation
across
the
street
from
the
proposed
site.
If
interstate,
if
interfaith
moves,
while
I
believe
having
a
permanent
police
presence
directly
across
the
street
from
the
state
street
location,
would
be
useful
and
likely
will
be
required
at
some
point.
I
also
realize
that
staffing,
the
substation
in
response
to
the
move,
would
challenge
the
notion
that
this
cup
wouldn't
impact
city
services.
AV
AV
Medic
services
are
also
adequately
available
to
the
current
in
interfaith
sanctuary
location,
but
there
are
no
medic
units
within
a
four-minute
response
time
serving
the
location
on
state
street,
while
a
proposed
condition
to
address
this
problem
is
to
have
a
part-time
medical,
medically
trained
staff
member
on
site.
To
my
knowledge,
the
qualifications
of
this
position
have
not
been
defined
yet.
I
also
question
the
city's
authority
to
enforce
such
a
requirement,
and
I
question
the
mitigation
that
this
position
can
provide
working
only
20
hours
a
week
or
about
three
hours
a
day.
AV
The
interfaith
sanctuary
I'm
running
out
of
time
here.
All
I
can
say
here
is
that
I
appreciate
the
buying
that
you're
in
with
the
selling
of
the
current
building
and
the
denial
of
the
cup
at
this
time,
and
I
hope
that
you
make
the
right
decision
and
back
the
denial
of
this
cup.
Thank
you.
AW
All
right
good
afternoon,
mayor
and
council,
let
me
adjust
this
here
a
little
bit.
So
my
concern
is
with
the
undue
burden
on
public
transportation,
and
I
believe
that
by
placing
those
who
are
disadvantaged
physically,
mentally
and
emotionally
at
the
newly
proposed
ifs
ifs
site
will
increase
accidents
that
involve
them.
Motorists
and
cyclists
vehicle
accidents
are
a
leading
cause
of
death
and
injury
to
homeless
citizens.
AW
In
2019,
a
san
francisco
examiner
of
story
reported
the
department
of
public
health,
citing
that
homeless
people
make
up
less
than
one
percent
of
the
city's
population,
but
account
for
22
percent
of
traffic
deaths.
Additionally,
in
january
of
2021,
the
department
of
public
health,
in
los
angeles,
reported
that
homeless
account
for
nine
percent
of
homeless
deaths,
the
third
leading
cause
of
deaths
of
homeless.
AW
Overall,
sadly,
this
undue
burden
is
manifested
in
slowdowns,
delays
and
complete
shutdowns
any
number
of
behaviors
or
actions
by
either
persons
experiencing
homelessness
or
motorists
can
result
in
this
crossing
against
signals
crossing
in
the
mid
lane,
walking
or
cycling
along
the
narrow,
shoulder
and
not
obeying
traffic
signals.
Poor
judgment
and
impairment
add
in
night
time
driving
and
inclement
weather,
and
this
risk
increases
immensely.
AW
This
will
not
just
impact
boise,
but
the
entire
treasure
valley
that
uses
highway,
44
and
eventually
stage
street,
and
then
how
long
will
citizens
tolerate
the
homeless,
suffering
injury
or
being
killed
and
the
delays
and
shutdowns
that
occur
on
stage
street
animosity
towards
these
individuals
may
increase
and
result
in
targeting
these
are
highly
probable
outcomes.
The
concern
of
all
safety,
the
concerns
of
safety
for
all,
is
at
stake
and
are
the
concerns
of
both
sides.
In
this
process,
the
city
has
spent
millions
to
ease
the
flow
of
traffic
at
major
intersections
on
state
street.
AW
This
action
will
now
reverse
that,
if
approved,
this
will
change
for
the
worse.
This
vital
treasure
valley,
transportation,
corridor
for
the
city
of
boise
and
for
those
in
the
treasure
valley
and
outside
boise
that
use
state
street.
I
implore
the
city
council
to
uphold
the
decision
of
the
pnz
committee.
Thank
you.
A
N
Hi,
can
you
hear
me
good?
My
name
is
george
herrod.
I
live
in
what
was
previously
characterized
by
one
of
your
testifiers
as
the
smikey
foothills.
N
I
would
I'm
here
to
urge
you
to
reverse
the
decision
of
pnz
and
support
the
conditional
use
permit
for
interfaith
sanctuary,
and
the
reason
is
quite
simple-
and
I
haven't
heard
any
testimony
to
this
effect
before,
but
I
don't
think
there's
a
better
alternative
if
you
lose
the
services
of
interfaith
sanctuary,
you
wind
up
with
people
who
are
homeless
on
the
streets
and
without
any
services
provided
to
them.
N
Well,
I
don't
know
if
that
applies
to
guests
at
interfaith
sanctuary.
I've
been
told
that
it
doesn't.
On
the
other
hand,
we
should
ask
some
questions
about
that.
N
As
far
as
I
know,
not
every
felon
is
violent,
even
if
they
are
martha.
Stewart
is
a
felon.
I'd
live
next
to
her
in
a
minute.
N
N
N
K
F
K
Jody
I've
heard
some
and
george
said
that
you
know
if,
if
you're
not
allowed
to
have
a
conditional
use
permit
and
move
to
this
location,
that
interfaith
will
close
its
doors,
can
you
help
shed
some
light
on
that
concern?
The.
K
AO
Currently
we
have
funding
at
the
hotel
through
cares
funding,
and
then
we
have
an
owner
of
our
building
that
has
extended
us
for
another
year
lease
while
we
go
through
this
process
and
that
owner
has
assured
us
that
as
long
as
we
stay
with
this
process,
this
application,
this
building
he'll,
hang
in
there
with
us
for
us
to
get
the
remodel
done.
C
Mayor
real
quick,
yes,
I'm
noticing
a
lot
of
folks
trying
to
help
the
mayor
out
in
managing
this
meeting
by
clearing
throats
and
coughing.
I
think
that
that's
really
disrespectful
and
we
should
leave
it
up
to
madam
mayor
to
run
the
meeting
as
she
sees
fit
and
she
will
let
people
know
when
their
time
is
up.
Thank
you.
AX
AX
The
gentleman
be
two
gentlemen
ago
kind
of
stole
my
thunder,
because
I
am
a
public
servant
in
the
way
of
public
safety.
In
my
past
life,
I
spent
eight
years
as
a
volunteer
fireman
as
a
fire
prevention
officer
as
a
bicycle
and
skateboard
shop
owner
public
safety
was
important,
so
I
did
bike
safety
in
three
different
states
at
numerous
elementary
schools
trying
to
keep
people
safe
from
cars
having
experienced
one
part,
one
car
almost
taking
my
own
life
years
ago,
so
the
state
street
corridor
is
way
too
dangerous
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
AX
AX
When
you
push
the
button,
you
have
21
seconds
how
many
cars
stopped
at
the
most
was
160
cars
stopped.
We
were
honked
at
yelled
at
and
they
were
very
pedestrians
were
putting
their
lives
at
risk
to
be
there,
as
well
as
the
the
future
pedestrian
crossing
there
with
their
all
their
belongings
on
their
back
or
pushing
their
bike
across
there
twice
a
day
is
going
to
be
way
too
dangerous.
So
in
our
study,
160
cars
would
stop
at
any
given
time
when
we
pushed
the
stock
crossing.
AX
So
in
you
know,
in
closing,
basically
we
the
people
of
boise.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
shape
the
future
of
homelessness
and
homeless
shelters.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
all
the
citizens
are
safe.
The
state
the
state
street
corridor
is
too
dangerous
for
the
most
vulnerable
population
that
we
have
and
we
can
do
better.
So
thank
you.
AY
P
AY
To
push
for
better
I'm
a
social
worker
and
have
been
for
40
years
and
for
25
years
I
ran
a
halfway
house
for
young
adults
that
had
that
were
coming
straight
out
of
incarceration,
so
they
all
had
criminogenic
issues.
They
had
drug
and
alcohol
addictions,
mental
health
issues
they
many
of
them
didn't
have
jobs,
and
some
of
them
are
on
a
sex
offender
registry,
and
it
was
my
job
for
25
years
to
help
these
folks
find
housing.
So
they
were
kind
of
the
bottom
of
the
barrel
and
it
was
hard,
but
it
was
doable.
AY
It
was
doable,
but
the
number
one
thing
that
I
had
to
keep
in
mind
when
selecting
housing
was
safety
for
that
roommate
or
that
landlord.
That
was
giving
my
participant
that
second
chance
that
they
so
desperately
needed.
I
urge
the
city
to
have
the
same
standards
when
allowing
a
location
for
emergency,
shelter,
safety,
first
and
then
opportunity
and
quality
of
life
for
all
residents.
AY
It's
appropriate
to
question
the
absence
of
a
security
plan
in
ifs's
conditional
use
request.
When
I
went
through
this
process.
No
one
had
to
ask
me
for
that
plan.
Common
sense
dictated
that
a
comprehensive
and
detailed
plan
was
doing
my
part
to
share
with
the
neighbors
what
I
was
willing
to
do.
What
I
was
going
to
commit
to
do
to
to
do
my
part
to
ensure
their
safety
interfaith's
proposal
for
a
large
low
barrier,
shelter
with
zero
residential
buffer,
ignores
many
best
practice
principles.
What
are
some
of
these
principles?
AY
H
AY
You
getting
these
yeah
if
there
are
actually
quite
a
lot
of
studies,
and
I
don't
have
it
cited
right
now
in
my
presentation,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
find
that
sighting
for
you
and
and
present
it.
But
it
is
also
probably
in
my
public
record,
that
in
the
letters
that
I've
sent
sure.
H
And
I'll,
let
you
continue
at
the
very
beginning.
You
also
referenced
another
organization,
a
council.
I
believe.
H
AY
No,
that
that's
quite
all
right,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
but,
as
I
was
doing
this
research
that
I
can
provide
that
information
for
you
another
other
best
practice
principles
were
separating
by
service
needs
so
that
you
don't
have
families
with
children's
that
are
housed
with
folks
that
have
mental
health
or
addiction
service
needs.
So
city
council
you're
tasked
with
making
a
critical
decision
about
how
our
city
will
serve
the
unhome
unhoused,
not
if
they
should
be
served.
AY
AY
I
Mayor,
yes
bobby,
can
I
ask
you
a
question
when
you
say
when
you're
referring
to
these
studies
or
entities
that
say
that
large
congregate
shelters
do
not
work
when
you
say
do
not
work?
What
does
do
not
work
mean?
That's.
AY
I
AY
Efficacy
means
with
homelessness.
The
whole
goal
is
employment,
and
housing
is
what
I
I
believe,
the
goal
of
those
who
are
unhoused.
They
want
a
house,
and
so
by
putting
a
lot
of
folks
together
in
a
large
congregate
shelter,
they
don't
work
because
it
takes
away
a
person's
dignity.
It
takes
away
their
privacy,
it
takes
away,
and
that
has
implications
on
health.
It
has
implications
on
mental
health
and
a
person
is
not
as
able
to
be
as
effective
when
their
mental
health
and
their
safety
feels
like
it's
at
risk.
AY
D
D
That
is
not
good
governance.
Good
governance
prevents
risks
and
saves
taxpayer
dollars,
whereas
this
would
do
the
opposite.
This
application
needs
to
be
denied
based
on
incompatible
use
and
adverse
impacts.
In
light
of
present
factual
circumstances
surrounding
this
request
and
the
resulting
impact
on
public
money,
a
denial
of
this
application
is
prudent
stewardship
of
the
taxpayers
money,
as
it
will
ensure
the
4.3
million
dollar
public
expenditure
on
the
new
police
station
was
reasonable,
appropriate
and
returns
the
highest
benefit
to
public
safety.
D
The
public
has
a
reasonable
expectation
of
realizing
the
full
benefit
or
the
entitled
return
on
the
investment
made
in
public
safety
using
public
money.
Therefore,
the
highest
and
best
use
of
public
money
expended
on
public
safety
will
only
result
by
retaining
ifs
in
the
area
near
the
new
police
station.
D
In
addition,
relocating
the
shelter
away
from
the
new
police
station
is
simply
expecting
the
residents
and
businesses
of
veterans
park
neighborhood
to
hold
the
risk
on
their
balance
sheet.
This
is
an
unreasonable
burden
and
will
be
a
failure
of
the
city
to
exercise
fiduciary
duty
regarding
the
wise
and
efficient
expenditure
of
public
funds.
D
AZ
AZ
Their
safety
is
paramount
in
a
childcare
facility,
but
I'm
afraid
that
if
I
have
a
real
case
to
our
neighborhood,
I
will
not
be
able
to
safely
take
children
on
field
trips,
as
I
currently
do.
My
concerns
are
based
on
factual
studies
that
confirm
the
negative
impacts
the
large
global
congregation
shelters
have
on
residential
neighborhoods.
AZ
AZ
To
the
city
complaining
about
the
homeless
and
transit
tissues
affecting
the
safety
and
business
growth
in
their
area,
they
consider
that
the
shelter
hinders
their
development
plans.
So
I
guess
that
there
is
a
correlation
between
real
estate
values
and
proximity
to
shelters.
Actually,
there
is
at
least
one
study
proving
the
correlation
in
manhattan.
The
city's
independent
budget
office
looked
at
cells
and
estimated
that
if
you
live
within
about
two
blocks
of
a
shelter,
you
will
get
about
24
to
25
percent,
less
I'm
not
afraid
of
the
unknown.
AB
AZ
AZ
BA
I
have
recently
built
a
duplex
on
willow
lane
and
plan
to
retire
in
it.
I
have
been
a
realtor
for
over
40
years
in
boise,
and
I
was
impressed
when
jody
said
that
the
prices
do
not
reflect
a
normal
market
right
now.
I
don't
think
you
can
go
by
what
the
market
has
done
in
the
last
few
months.
It's
not
a
normal
market
and
we
will
see
it
again.
AC
AK
AK
We
have
so
many
successful
stories,
but
here's
two
with
the
time
that
we
have
kevin
came
to
us
through
project
recovery
after
spending
years
alone
struggling
with
addiction.
One
day
he
had
any,
he
had
had
enough.
He
tentatively
walked
into
our
phase
one
of
our
recovery
program
and
he
quietly
sat
through
the
meetings
listening
but
not
really
engaging
later.
AK
He
was
also
invited
to
participate
into
our
project
well-being,
which
is
our
mental
health
program,
and
he
slowly
began
to
connect
through
the
group,
art
and
writing
one
day
when
entering
the
shelter
several
people
said
hello
to
kevin
by
name
an
emotional
kevin
shared
how
much
that
meant
to
him.
During
the
group
discussion,
it
had
been
quite
a
while,
since
he
had
heard
his
name
spoken
out
loud,
that
feeling
of
acceptance
and
care
began
his
healing
process.
AK
He
is
employed,
full-time
and
is
currently
looking
for
housing
of
his
own.
He
shows
kindness
and
understanding
to
those
mentors
and
he's
a
great
cheerleader
for
all
those
there
needing
the
encouragement
to
take
those
brief
steps.
He
took
finding
their
way
back
to
hope
and
joy
jacobs.
Our
next
story,
jacob,
was
struggling
with
mental
health
issues
and
and
undiagnosed
disabilities.
AK
Jacob
was
the
very
first
one
to
volunteer
to
be
part
of
this
new
group
we
found
out
jacob
is
a
incredible
artist
and
writer,
and
after
hearing
the
stories
of
the
participants
in
project
well-being,
he
came
up
with
the
idea
of
creating
a
newsletter
featuring
stories
and
poetry
and
art
written
and
created
by
those
in
our
homeless
community.
AK
AK
Jacob
was
mentored
by
the
staff
at
the
idaho
press
and
now
is
creating
monthly
applications
called
word
on
the
street,
a
paper
for
the
people,
the
idaho
press,
prints,
30
000
of
these
papers
and
inserts
them
once
a
month
in
their
paper,
jacob
is
employed
and
he
has,
and
he
is
now
living
on
his
own.
Those
are
just
two
stories
and
I
would
like
to
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
the
time.
AK
AK
BB
I
had
a
feeling
you
might
struggle
with
my
name:
everyone
does
it's
lasso
now
great
thanks.
So,
madam
mayor
members
of
council,
thank
you
so
much
for
allowing
us
to
testify
on
this.
Okay,
many
of
the
businesses
close
to
the
location
under
review
benefit
from
millions
of
dollars
in
public
improvements.
The
city
has
made
to
the
willow
lane
sports
complex
local
team
events
are
organized
by
parks
and
recreation
department,
while
the
chamber
of
commerce
actively
solicits,
regional
and
national
sports
tournaments
to
be
hosted
at
this
facility.
BB
BB
This
would
negatively
affect
the
area
for
business
and
the
city's
bottom
line
requiring
a
permit
for
alcohol
that
has
been
brought
up
in
this
very
appeal,
which
revealed
an
additional
burden
that
would
be
placed
on
the
police
department
to
enforce
that
restriction.
The
police
department
is
already
understaffed
and
struggling
to
fill
vacancy
positions,
adding
more
of
a
burden
to
their
work.
BB
The
parks
and
recs
himself
said
very
few
impacts
because
of
this
open
container
policy
and
to
tell
them
that,
through
no
fault
of
their
own,
they
might
have
to
go
to
permits
and
worst
case
scenario,
maybe
not
even
allowed.
I
don't
think
that's
fair
to
that
public.
That
has
been
safely
using
this
complex
and
I
don't
know
who
would
have
to
actually
tell
them.
BB
I
would
want
to
be
the
ones
to
have
to
say
that
upholding
the
commission's
denial
of
the
cup
ensures
the
business
community
in
this
area
will
not
suffer
the
economic
injury
and
it
is
the
best
economic
interest
of
the
city.
Thank
you.
BC
BC
I
have
been
one
of
a
team
of
people
supporting
families
which
includes
the
staff
member
helping
with
homework
the
case
worker
partnering
with
parents
to
address
families
needs
and
the
preschool
teacher.
All
this
at
a
homeless,
shelter
in
a
creative
writing
exercise.
I
did
with
children
ages,
seven
to
ten.
The
children
wrote
these
lines
as
part
of
a
collective
poem.
BC
BC
BC
Compassion
and
courage
or
on
fear,
I
urge
you
to
support
interfaith's
appeal
at
the
shelter
I
see
guests
working
hard
in
every
way
they
work
to
heal
from
trauma,
learn
new
skills,
support
each
other
and
create
a
sense
of
family
for
each
other
in
their
jobs
in
home,
health
care,
hospitality,
restaurants
and
service.
They
care
for
many
people
in
this
community.
BC
The
artists
bring
creativity
and
beauty
into
our
lives.
The
parents
want
to
do
right
by
their
children.
The
children
and
everyone
want
safety,
caring
love
in
the
discussions
I
facilitate
with
them.
The
guests
so
often
express
deep
gratitude
to
interfaith
for
the
opportunity
it
affords
them
to
find
safety.
Community
and
growth.
BC
Interfaith
offers
real
shelter,
not
just
a
physical
roof
over
people's
heads,
but
shelter
that
affords
time
and
space
to
find
stability,
forge
healthy
relationships,
find
employment
and
housing
and
address
physical
and
mental
health
concerns.
Interfaith
makes
our
whole
city
safer.
We
need
interfaith
to
succeed
in
its
relocation
endeavor,
while
there
may
be
other
solutions
for
the
city
to
explore
over
time
in
an
ideal
world
that
we
have
not
yet
made.
Our
guests
do
not
have
time.
BC
No
organization
in
boise
has
yet
come
up
with
a
better
solution
for
the
near
future.
It
is
understandable
that
people
feel
fear
and
apprehension
about
this
project,
but
do
we
want
to
make
this
decision
based
on
fear?
I
continue
to
work
at
interfaith
because
it
stirs
my
humanity.
It
shows
me
what
dignity
looks
like
and
it
allows
me
to
grow
and
change
as
the
guests
grow
and
change.
I
am
here
because
I
hope
we
can
hear
each
other
see
each
other
as
all
part
of
the
human
family
and
work
together
to
make
this
project
viable.
K
Mayor,
yes,
I
have
a
question
for
janet
janet.
Yes,
question
hi
janet,
it
sounds
like
you
have
a
lot
of
expertise
in
this
area
and
has
and
has
had
quite
a
professional
history.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
need
for
wrap-around
services
when
it
comes
to
safety
and
what
that
means
can.
BC
In
my
mind,
they
absolutely
create
greater
safety,
and
this
is
what
inspires
me
about
interfaith.
There
are
so
many
wraparound
services
that
interfaith
has
created
and
continues
to
create
in
response
to
the
need
they
see.
In
the
moment
I
mean
they
saw
people
needed
exercise
and
they
created
an
exercise
program.
You
know
they
saw
that
there
was
there
were
people
were
coming
in
with
addiction
problems
and
they
created
an
addiction
program
within
the
shelter
that
people
can
stay
and
have
24-hour
care
within
the
shelter
it's
extraordinary.
BC
K
BC
U
Okay,
my
name
is
julie,
vick
and
I'm
a
proud
member
of
the
veterans
park.
Neighborhood
association,
the
staff
reports
do
not
adequately
consider
the
key
decision
criteria
that
the
planning
and
zoning
committee
identified
that
the
use
will
not
adver
adversely
affect
other
property
of
the
vicinity,
while
some
of
the
nuisance
impacts
were
at
least
considered
by
staff
such
as
on-site,
loud
music
and
smoking.
U
U
U
Significantly,
these
major
impacts
to
properties
in
the
vicinity
disproportionately
affect
minorities
and
those
with
disabilities
who
live
in
the
vicinity
at
higher
rates
than
in
boise
as
a
whole.
More
impacts
not
considered
in
the
staff
report,
which
are
again
driven
by
intrinsic
design
of
the
proposed
shelter,
include
increase
in
predatory
or
illegal
business
and
displacement
of
businesses.
U
U
BD
Hello,
my
name
is
brad
gates
and
I
live
in
the
veterans
park.
Neighborhood
lived
in
boise
my
whole
life
born
and
raised
here
the
claim
by
interfaith
sanctuary
that
the
pnz
denial
of
the
application
was
not
supported
by
competent
evidence
is
false.
A
low
barrier.
Shelter
of
this
size
does
not
currently
operate
anywhere
in
the
state
of
idaho,
so
the
only
evidence
available
had
to
come
from
elsewhere
as
a
proxy
for
what
will
likely
occur
in
the
neighborhood.
BD
With
regards
to
cup
criteria,
number
four
the
proposed
use,
if
it
complies
with
all
conditions
imposed,
will
not
adversely
affect
other
property
in
the
vicinity.
Mr
wortle
said
the
test
is
not
the
existence
of
a
preserved
of
a
perceived
adverse
impact.
The
test
is
whether
or
not
the
impact
can
be
mitigated
through
the
conditions
imposed.
BD
I
would
also
like
to
address
comments
made
by
the
project's
architect,
mr
erstad.
During
the
first
pnc
hearing
he
said,
I
believe
that
this
is
the
right
use
of
an
appropriate
location.
Coincidentally,
mr
erstad
is
also
a
stakeholder
in
the
shoreline
urban
renewal
district,
where
interfaith
is
currently
located.
This
area
has
attracted
substantial
investment
interest
by
developers
where
river
shore
development
plans
to
build
midtown
boise's
next
great
neighborhood.
However,
mr
erstad
and
other
stakeholders
have
also
recognized
that
interfaith
has
had
an
adverse
impact
on
the
area.
BD
BE
BE
BE
BE
BE
So,
as
I
understand
it,
boise
rescue
mission
has
slightly
different
criteria
for
allowing
people
in
if
they
think
you're
going
to
be
disruptive.
If
they
think
you're
going
to
be
violent,
they
won't
let
you
in
there
okay,
so
now.
These
are
the
folks
that
we're
being
asked
to
invite
into
our
neighborhood
the
ones
that
are
rejected
at
one
of
the
other
shelters.
BE
BE
These
are
professionals.
These
are
people
that
know
what
they're
doing
they've
looked
at
a
thousand
decisions,
and
they
said
this
is
not
an
appropriate
use
in
this
neighborhood.
It's
not
safe,
and
it's
something
we
need
to
deny,
and
I'm
asking
you
please
to
uphold
the
decision
of
our
planning
and
zoning
commission.
Thank
you.
BF
My
name
is
k
marquardt,
I'm
almost
80
years
old,
as
you
can
tell,
because
I
took
my
mask
off
okay,
I
have
been
involved
in
working
for
homeless
solutions
for
decades
and
my
most
recent,
I
guess
I
guess
you
would
call
it
accomplishment-
is
working
with
leap,
housing
to
build
wendy
court
and
most
of
you
probably
have
heard
of
wendy
court,
and
I'm
very
proud
of
that,
because
I
I
finally
put
my
money
where
my
mouth
is
and
bought
the
property
and
then
found
bart
cochran
to
work
with
with
leap
housing
and
at
first
we
wanted
to
do
tiny
houses
and
that
was
not
approved,
and
then
we
were
going
to
do
a
boarding
house
model
and
that
was
not
approved.
BF
So,
finally,
we
decided
on
the
shipping
containers
and
that
didn't
need
approval.
Thank
goodness
because
then
we
didn't
have
all
this
ruckus
with
all
of
these
the
complaints
and
testimonies
etc.
So
that
made
it
much
easier
to
do
windy.
Court
ii
has
followed
there's
another
project
across
the
street
characters
commons,
which
is
also
nearly
completed.
BF
I've
also
worked
with
leap
on
a
lot
of
different
things
like
buying
up
mobile
home
courts,
to
keep
to
to
ensure
that
the
people
there
will
not
be
displaced.
BF
BF
There
is
no
other
alternative
folks,
okay,
unless
you
want
them
thrown
out
on
the
streets,
and
my
proposal
to
bobby
was-
or
my
suggestion
to
bobby
was
yes.
This
is
not.
These
are
not
the
best
practices,
but
how
long
will
it
take
before
the
city
acts
to
do
these
best
practices?
BF
BF
BG
BG
I
have
the
interesting
perspective
of
housing,
a
homeless
person
running
a
free
medical
clinic
for
homeless
and
uninsured
and
living
in
vpna
on
my
grandmother's
1920
homestead
in
november
of
2019,
two
neighbors,
and
I
encountered
a
lady
with
a
large
dog
and
cat
lying
in
the
lander
street
gutter
by
the
wastewater
plant.
We
listened
to
her
story
and
worked
all
day
to
find
resources
to
help
her,
as
she
had
recently
returned
to
boise
after
an
illegal
eviction
in
south
dakota
to
keep
this
net,
we
paid
to
board
her
animals.
BG
While
I
picked
her
up
at
city
light
each
morning
after
spending
three
days
with
her,
I
felt
comfortable
to
move
her
and
her
animals
into
my
heated
garage.
While
I
sit
where
I
set
up
a
bedroom,
she
has
a
life-ending
illness
and
ptsd.
I
came
to
know
this,
lady.
In
the
horrible
childhood
she
experienced
in
boise,
she's,
extremely
intelligent,
caring
and
proud.
I
was
able
to
find
her
affordable
housing
and
horseshoe
bin.
That
requires
my
financial
support.
She
cannot
drive
or
ride
buses
due
to
her
ptsd.
So
I
am
her
transport.
BG
I
also
voluntarily
run
a
free
medical
clinic
in
garden
city
for
those
who
do
not
have
insurance.
My
providers
and
I
see
the
medical
challenges
the
poor
and
homeless
have
ranging
from
the
physical
illness,
injury,
mental
illness
and
addictions.
My
opposition
to
the
ifs
site
leaves
me
with
a
torn
heart
because
I
care
about
people.
That
is
why
I
do
what
I
do
in
my
retirement.
However,
I'm
a
realist
and
the
proposed
ifs
location
is
a
bad
fit
which
will
create
the
perfect
storm
for
all
of
us
to
deal
with
daily.
BG
Let's
recap:
what
we
have
a
building
that
has
no
buffer
next
to
people's
homes
and
backyards,
vulnerable,
vulnerable
trailer
park,
residents
next
door,
small
mom
and
pop
restaurants,
who
are
fearful
of
their
viability
every
day,
an
elementary
school
about
a
block
away
that
has
a
history
of
hypodermic
needles
on
the
playground.
The
smallest
library
in
the
city
that
is
highly
used
yet
is
expected
to
accommodate
a
heavy
user
homeless
population
at
the
expense
of
the
neighborhood
children.
BG
Many
of
the
homeless
use
downtown,
which
will
require
a
bus
trip.
Yet
there
is
no
appropriate
bus
shelter
on
the
east
side
of
state
wow.
Could
we
create
a
more
perfect
situation
for
problems?
Boise
should
and
must
do
better
for
the
homeless
businesses
and
the
neighborhood.
Many
times
in
your
city,
council
meetings.
You've
discussed
that
safety
is
what
makes
a
neighborhood.
BG
This
shelter
location
will
degrade
the
safety
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
safety
of
the
homeless
in
the
bible,
leviticus
19
15
says:
do
not
twist
justice
in
legal
matters
by
favoring,
the
poor
or
by
being
partial
to
the
rich
and
powerful,
always
judge
people
fairly.
Please
uphold
the
pnc
decision.
Thank
you.
BH
Okay,
please
note
my
face
mask.
BH
BH
I
can
see
the
interface
sanctuary
property
from
my
front
window.
I've
had
decades
of
experience
of
interaction
with
the
homeless
years
of
interaction
with
the
homeless
on
a
business
property
I
owned
on
west
washington
street
close
to
albertsons
I've
volunteered
at
interfaith
sanctuary.
At
its
founding
I
was
a
close
associate
and
friend
of
james
sorrells,
who
was
one
of
the
first
executive
directors
of
interfaith
sanctuary.
BH
BH
BH
The
city
through
conditional
use
permit,
can
mitigate
the
adverse
impacts
on
our
neighborhood
and
the
finding
of
the
planning
and
zoning
committee
is
that
they
cannot,
and
I
and
many
others
could
go
on
and
on
and
on
and
have
about
why.
That
is
one
aspect
being
state
street
traffic
and
the
investment
we
put
millions
of
dollars
to
improve
traffic,
creating
a
high
traffic
situation
where
now
we're
going
to
throw
into
the
mix.
If
this
is
approved,
incapacitated.
BH
E
E
E
A
So
I've
got
just
some:
I've
got
three
more
people
signed
up
and
if
there
are
any
of
you
that
are
here
today
that
wish
to
testify,
I
ne
I
need
to
ask
you
to
head
out
to
the
lobby
and
sign
a
piece
of
paper,
because
that's
how
employees
will
then
verify
that
you're
a
party
of
record.
So
I
think
there
are
some
of
you.
There
are
more
of
you
in
here
than
that
have
signed
up
to
testify.
A
So
if
you
want
to
do
that,
I'm
not
going
to
do
the
kind
of
open
mic
setup,
but
we'll
ask
that
you
sign
up
and
then
I'll
get
the
piece
of
paper
and
call
you
that
way
after
these
three.
Unless
I
get
another
piece
of
paper,
we'll
move
on
to
the
zoom
folks,
so
zoom
folks,
thanks
for
sticking
with
us
you're
on
deck,
so
we
will
start
with
rosemary
mcclenahan,
and
then
I've
got
rhonda
larson
and
denise
carruzzi.
BI
My
name
is
rosemary
and
I
live
in
the
my
name
is
rosemary
and
I
live
in
the
collister
neighborhood
near
the
veterans
park
neighborhood
on
appeal.
The
applicant
refers
to
the
boise
comprehensive
plan
as
an
aspirational
document
and
accuses
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
of
ignoring
the
zoning
ordinance
in
the
reliance
on
the
comprehensive
plan.
BI
This
ignores
the
fact
that
boise's
zoning
code
explicitly
includes
compliance
with
the
comprehensive
plan
as
a
criterion
for
approval
of
a
cup
the
two
cases
interface
sites
to
support.
This
argument
are
inapplicable
to
the
discussion
of
applying
review
criteria
to
a
cup
erudia
versus
blaine
county.
The
applicant
in
question
was
for
a
by-right
use
that
was
denied
only
on
the
basis
of
comprehensive
plan.
BI
BI
The
text
of
the
recent
statement
made
clear
that
the
commission,
based
their
finding
of
incompatibility
on
this
shelter,
applications
intense
adverse
impact
and
undue
burden,
meaning
that
the
impact
of
the
facility
would
not
be
limited
enough
to
be
compatible
with
this
area.
The
commission
didn't
say
no
shelter
could
be
cited
anywhere
in
boise.
In
fact,
they
provided
recommendations
for
evidence
that
could
be
brought
forth
in
a
future
shelter
application
in
order
to
more
reliably
assess,
mitigated
impact.
BI
Their
deliberation
included
consideration
of
a
large
reduction
population
of
the
proposed
site
as
a
way
to
reduce
impact
planning
and
zoning's
decision
shows
residents
and
small
businesses
throughout
boise
that
the
zoning
ordinance
is
in
place
to
protect
their
homes
and
livelihoods
when
needed,
interfaith
is
being
treated
fairly,
just
as
any
other
business.
It
is
interfaith's
responsibility
to
show
that
they
have
taken
their
impact
footprint
on
the
surrounding
area
into
account.
If
we
can't
serve
this
population
using
this
model
without
impact,
then
we
need
to
look
at
other
ways
to
support
those
experiencing
homelessness.
BI
BI
G
One
question
before
you
leave
rosemary
sorry:
I've
been
saying
I've
been
thinking
about
some
of
the
things
that
you
testified
about
a
lot
since
last
night.
A
perfectly
acceptable
answer
would
be
beats
me.
I
don't
know,
but
I
wonder,
do
you
think
that
our
code
and
our
comprehensive
plan
taken
together
do
allow
for
shelters
somewhere
in
commercial
zones
or
do
you
think
that
the
way
the
code
and
the
comprehensive
plan
are
written
effectively
makes
it
impossible
for
any
shelter
anywhere.
BJ
Madam
mayor
council
members,
my
name
is
rhonda
larson
cockle
I
own
a
home
at
4197,
west,
plum
street.
My
home
is
adjacent
to
the
proposed
location,
I'm
directly
behind
the
location.
I
share
over
a
hundred
feet
of
fence
along
my
backyard,
with
the
property
interface
sanctuary
has
stated
that
they'll
be
using
the
back
of
their
property
for
congregate
areas.
My
backyard
is,
will
be
roughly
about
two,
maybe
three
feet
away
from
when
they're,
where
they're
congregating
my
kitchen
and
bedroom
windows
are
less
than
eight
feet
away.
BJ
There's,
no
conditions
of
approval
that
could
be
placed
on
this
project
that
would
prevent
this
facility
from
adversely
impacting
my
property.
Offense
is
not
enough
to
block
daily
noise
from
people
gathering
the
lights
that
will
be
shining
onto
our
property
or
the
impact
of
second-hand
smoke.
We
will
hear
guest
conversations
and
amplified
sound
anytime.
We
use
our
backyard
or
even
inside
our
home,
because
it's
only
eight
feet
away.
BJ
This
will
create
a
lack
of
privacy
from
my
family,
as
well
as
all
the
guests
to
ifs.
A
fence
can't
even
begin
to
mitigate
the
noise
of
sirens
and
lights
and
daily
nightly
police
ambulance
or
fire
calls.
As
we
heard
the
police
chief
statement
yesterday,
it's
reasonable
to
assume
that
the
new
location
would
have
the
same
call
volume.
A
BK
BK
BK
BK
We
know
that
everyone
is
healthy,
that
if
everyone
is
healthy
and
has
opportunities,
our
city
is
more
economically
and
socially
stable.
Second,
how
do
we
make
decisions?
We
have
a
process
in
place
even
as
we
learn
to
improve
them.
We
have
city
staff
whom
we
hire
to
be
our
experts
on
this
process,
and
I
won't
repeat
their
arguments
not
today
and
not
ever
can
decisions
be
made
based
on
the
loudest
and
longest
voices.
BK
BK
BK
There
are
no
easy
solutions.
It
requires
all
of
us
our
attention
and
resolves.
We
need
more
stability
in
our
community,
more
housing,
more
support
services
and
more
steps
between
a
housing,
emergency
and
suddenly
living
on
the
streets.
We
need
to
address
this
problem
farther
upstream.
It
will
take
time
and
collaboration,
but
let's
do
it.
Let's
do
this
hard
thing
until
then,
and
for
today
we
have
an
immediate
and
critical
need
and
we
have
a
solution,
a
suitable
solution.
Thank
you.
BL
A
BL
BL
So
I'm
going
to
speak
to
you
about
what
you
really
have
to
do
here
and
a
lot
of
people
are
telling
you
that,
but
my
understanding
from
doing
planning
and
zoning
work
as
a
citizen
for
over
30
years,
is
that
your
decision
as
reviewers
of
the
pnc
record
below
you
and
whether
they
heard
is
that
what
does
the
conditional
use
require?
What
has
been
submitted
and
did
the
applicant
comply
and
are
there
facts
to
the
contrary
of
that
that
were
bought
brought
up
below
last
autumn?
Not
today
and
not
yesterday?
BM
BL
To
do
your
jobs,
but
I
I
do
know
some
people
in
these
neighborhoods
and
I
appreciate
their
concerns,
and
I
appreciate
their
concern
about
the
other,
the
homeless
that
they
may
or
may
not
know.
I
know
some
of
those
homeless
people
too,
and
I
go
down
to
interfaith.
Often:
I've
never
experienced
blaring
lights
and
loud
music.
I've
only
experienced
politeness,
I've
had
interfaith
volunteers,
come
up
to
me
and
say:
do
you
need
an
assistance
walking
through
here,
and
I
say
of
course
not.
BL
I
feel
fine
here
and
I
always
do,
but
that's
not
on
the
law,
what
you
have
to
review,
what
you
have
to
redo
review
and
decide
is
the
conditional
use
I've
heard
a
lot
of
hearsay
this
morning
and
yesterday
and
about
read
between
the
lines
of
what
the
police
chief
said?
Well,
that's
not
what
you're
called
on
to
do
and
and
that
the
shelter
as
it
currently
operates
is
not
successful
and
well
you're,
not
reviewing
its
current
operation.
BL
You're
reviewing
its
new
proposal
for
conditional
use
on
state
street,
where
there
is
a
bus
line
where
there
is
grocery
a
few
miles
away,
where
there
is,
for
instance,
an
approved
achd
plan
for
a
low
stress
bikeway,
which
will
help
a
lot
of
these
people
who
commute
by
bike
get
around.
They
don't
have
to
ride
on
state
street.
I
don't
ride
on
state
street
if
I
can
help
it
on
my
bicycle
so
anyway
to
wrap
it
up.
BL
So
I
urge
you
to
approve
the
appeal
by
the
applicant
and
do
that
be
not
just
because
it's
the
right
thing,
but
it's
because
that's
what
our
code
allows
for
in
the
commercial
zones
you
can.
You
can
make
this
shelter
work
and
it's
allowable
by
our
process,
and
we
have
to
go
by
what
the
code
tells
you
we
have
or
don't
have.
So
that's
all.
H
Yes,
great
testimony,
there's
one
part
that
I
didn't
get
some
clarity
on.
You
said
that
there
was
a
part
that
was
arbitrary,
but
you
didn't
say
specifically
what
that
was.
BL
I
believe
leaving
bringing
in
the
security
concerns
that
were
not
in
the
original
requirements,
as
I
read
them
last
autumn,
in
the
original
application.
Bringing
those
in,
if
you
will
at
the
23rd
hour
is,
was
outside
the
bounds
of
planning
and
zoning
councilman.
BL
Yeah,
so
that's
it
and
thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
try
and
not
screw
up
the
mic
matter.
G
BL
BB
G
Along
the
lines
of
council
member
halliburton,
he
you
also
said
you
referenced
some
specific
data
brought
in
at
the
last
minute.
If
you
get
the
phrase
you
use,
but
outside
data
or
outside
information,
that
planning
is
going
to
be
brought
in.
BL
And
I
do
believe
the
applicants
tried
really
hard
by
the
way
they
wanted
to
put
a
higher
fence
out
back
to
protect
the
adjacent,
neighbors
or
mitigate
effects,
and
they
were
told
it's
not
allowed
under
our
code.
So
instead
of
building
a
very
high
fence,
which
required
a
variance
they're,
still
proposing
a
variance
to
build
an
eight
foot,
high
fence,
which
is
pretty
good,
I
I'm
sensitive
to
what
the
nearest
neighbors
think
they
will
experience,
but
they
haven't
experienced
it.
Yet.
BL
BN
Does
it
work?
Yes,
I'm
carla,
velez
and
my
address
is:
1620
was
river
street
boise,
I'm
a
case
manager
and
a
supervisor
for
the
family
shelter
program,
I'm
here
to
share
what
I
see
every
day
when
I
serve
families
who
experience
homelessness
because
they
are
the
ones
who
endure
the
injustice
of
our
political
inaction
as
a
social
work
professional.
I
can
say
that
there
is
nothing
glamorous
about
my
job
and
I
certainly
do
not
do
what
I
do
every
day,
because
I
have
a
big
heart.
BN
I'm
sure
my
heart
is
not
any
bigger
than
anybody
else
is
here.
I
serve
families
in
our
communities
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
I'm
here
advocating
for
a
new
location
permit,
because
it
is
ethical,
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
and
it
entails
best
practice.
I'm
here
today,
because
I
believe
that
homelessness
is
a
violation
of
the
right
to
life,
because
homelessness
is
an
assault
on
the
dignity
and
social
inclusion
of
those
who,
for
diverse
reasons,
are
being
denied
the
right
of
housing,
health
care,
water,
sanitation,
safety
and
freedom
from
cruel
and
degrading
treatment.
BN
I
have
the
privilege
to
share
the
same
space
with
families
and
medically
fragile
individuals,
people
with
disabilities,
children
and
seniors,
and
you
know
what
what
I
see
every
day
is
what
I
would
probably
see.
If
I
had
access
to
any
of
your
homes.
I
see
parents
waking
up
early
and
getting
their
kids
ready
for
school.
I
see
individuals
going
to
work
or
trying
to
find
one.
I
see
parents
doing
the
best
they
can
with
what
they
have
to
ensure
their
families
are
safe
and
happy.
I
see
kids
playing
and
sharing
with
each
other.
BN
I
see
seniors
and
individuals
with
disabilities
or
medical
issues
striving
for
human
connection
and
real
conversations.
That
is
what
I
witness
every
day
and
isn't
that
what
we
all
do-
and
we
want
I'm
here
in
front
of
you
all,
because
as
a
city,
we
have
the
minimum
car
obligation
to
provide
an
immediate
response
to
the
housing
crisis
by
using
all
the
resources
available,
both
human
and
physical
resources.
BN
BN
Yes,
we
can
be
a
better
policy
if
we
can
genuinely
commit
to
build
an
inclusive
community
and
live
up
to
our
potential.
The
new
interfaith
sanctuary
location
will
allow
staff
at
interface
and
trade
to
continue
doing
our
best
work,
mitigating
the
trauma
of
those
who
are
stigmatized
and
often
times
criminalized
because
of
their
housing
status.
Please
approve
our
conditional
use.
Permit.
BM
BM
The
record
shows
in
the
applicant's
communications
with
the
city
that
they
were
aware
of
the
adverse
impacts
that
a
homeless
shelter
creates
for
properties
in
the
vicinity
quote
the
area
immediately
around
a
homeless,
shelter
may
experience
an
increase
in
petty
theft
and
other
property
crimes.
These
are
crimes
of
desperation
and
survival.
End
quote
the
applicant's
own
words
also
highlight
additional
adverse
and
life-threatening
impacts
that
their
lack
of
outward-facing
security
policies
can
have
on
the
surrounding
community
detailing
the
awful
murder
that
occurred
there
in
2018
quote.
BM
BM
Tim
keener
is
an
extreme
example
of
this
problem,
but
the
application
does
nothing
to
assure
that.
The
neighborhood,
how
guests,
who
are
expelled
from
the
shelter
for
behavioral
concerns
each
night
or
whom
choose
to
leave
the
shelter
rather
than
follow
rules,
will
be
managed
to
ensure
the
safety
of
the
community
and
private
properties
or
public
areas
near
the
shelter
and
to
assure
they
will
not
become
de
facto
camping
areas.
BM
The
record
shows
that
the
applicant
was
aware
of
at
least
some
adverse
impacts
that
a
homeless,
shelter,
e.g
increased
crime
and
its
inadequate
security
policies.
Eg,
releasing
dangerous
individuals
into
the
community,
have
upon
the
immediate
community
and
thus
must
know
that
a
strong
security
plan
protecting
the
public
outside
their
walls
are
needed.
Finally,
the
public
also
needs
to
see
evidence
of
whether
the
security
measures
eventually
proposed
in
the
future
security
plan
have
been
successful
in
protecting
the
community
around
a
large
shelter
elsewhere.
BM
When
the
only
point
of
reference
the
applicant
has
provided
for
their
security
measures
is
the
river
street
shelter
security
plan
and
the
record
clearly
causes
for
concern
at
and
around
the
shelter
and
increases
in
calls
for
service
between
2016
and
2020.
The
mere
transfer
of
the
security
provisions
present
there
to
a
new,
larger
shelter
embedded
in
a
vulnerable
residential
neighborhood
are
not
sufficient
to
base
a
finding
of
no
impact
on
the
neighbors.
Oh,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Anyone.
W
H
I'm
not
denmer.
I've
got
a
question.
Yes,
council
member
beijing
earlier
said
that
it's
okay
to
say
I
don't
know.
So
if
you
don't
know
the
answer
to
this
question,
that's
absolutely
fine!
So
you
referenced
it,
you
thought
a
security
plan
needed
to
be
exist
needed
to
exist,
and
then
you
also
said
that
you
thought
that
might
need
to
be
reviewed
potentially
by
the
neighbors
or
over
time
to
make
sure
that
whatever
plan
was
available,
was
being
evaluated
and
changed
going
forward.
H
One
of
the
conditions
that's
listed,
condition
number
19
from
the
staff
says
the
applicant
shall
meet
monthly
with
a
representative
from
the
boise
police
department
and
our
path
home
to
discuss,
discuss
operations
and
enforcement
challenges.
Are
you
does
that?
I
know
that
there's
other
things
that
you're
not
necessarily
on
board
for,
but
does.
BM
What
we'd
like
to
see
is
a
security
plan
that
could
possibly
work,
and
I
don't
know
if
a
large
shelter
in
a
residential
area
could
possibly
ensure
the
safety
of
the
community
around
in
any
case.
But
if
there
was
in
another
city,
a
large
shelter
like
this,
with
no
buffer
in
the
community
that
had
a
successful
security
plan
and
could
show
that
there's
no
injury
or
to
the
community
or
property
theft
or
vandalism
that
would
that
would
be
productive
to.
T
H
It's
an
effective
security
plan.
An
effective
security
plan
is
going
to
have
to
be
reviewed
on
a
regular
basis
to
make
sure
that
it's
still
working
as
the
world
changes
right.
BJ
H
That
are
there
so
condition:
number
19
talks
about
that
meeting,
monthly
with
bpd
and
our
path
home,
which
is
sort
of
our
collective
impact
group
addressing
homelessness
right
if
it
was
a
successful
plan,
and
that
was
the
evaluation
process.
Does
that
satisfy
your
need
that
you
mentioned
earlier
for
that
ongoing
evaluation
process.
BM
I
mean
that
seems
like
a
good
ongoing
evaluation
process.
I
don't
yeah,
I
don't
know
once
large
shelter
gets
in
place.
If
I
mean
I
assume,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
security
risk
and
damage
and
stuff,
I
don't
know
how
you
undo
that
once
it's
already
in
place,
I
know
you
can
address
things
as
they
happen
with
the
boise
police
department
to
try
to
make
it
not
happen
again,
but
we're
trying
to
prevent
like
injury
and
theft
and
damage
beforehand.
T
BO
Madam
mayor
city,
council
members,
thank
you
I'm
corey
erickson,
it's
okay.
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
commend
the
planning
and
zoning
commissioners
for
their
outstanding
work
and
reviewing
the
evidence
on
record.
I
would
expect
that
you
have
reviewed
all
the
evidence
on
the
record
as
well,
which
is
copious.
BO
The
reason
the
ifs
landed
on
the
number
of
205
beds
is
that
their
loan
documents
explicitly
state
that
they
had
to
provide
a
minimum
of
200
emergency
shelter
beds
to
acquire
the
loan.
It
was
also
mentioned
that
there
was
no
expertise
to
turn
to
on
treatment
for
people
without
a
home
substance
abuse
mental
health.
Things
like
that.
I
submitted
into
evidence
samsha
substance,
abuse,
mental
health
services,
administration,
tip
55.
BO
BO
The
city's
record
shows
the
following
the
january
9
2019
meeting
minutes
for
the
city
impact
fee
committee
says
boise,
mayor,
beater
and
city
council
requested
the
police
department
identify
a
location
for
a
micro
district
facility,
specifically
near
the
road
skate
park
and
interface
sanctuary
area,
the
city
considered
about
10
sites
before
settling
on
the
former,
the
property
formerly
known
as
lucky
duck.
Lucky
dog
tavern,
which
was
near
interface,
sanctuary
and
allison.
BO
Tate
of
the
boise
police
department,
explained
the
pros
of
the
site,
which
included
its
proximity
to
the
high
call
volume
areas
november
6
2019
meeting
minutes
for
the
public
works
commission
included
the
following
commissioner
crowley
asked
why
the
location
of
a
new
police
micro
district
was
chosen.
Mr
bosfield
answered
the
selected
location
is
excuse
me
close
to
downtown
core
without
being
impacted
by
downtown
traffic.
It
provides
good
access
to
the
green
belt,
supports
the
bicycle
police
patrol
and
it's
close
to
some
high
call
areas
such
as
rhodes
park.
BO
I'm
sorry,
my
mouth
is
dry.
The
city's
press
release
for
this
station
says
downtown.
Boise
consistently
has
more
calls
for
service
than
any
other
part
of
town
and
boise
police
bike
unit
works
daily
with
social
service
providers.
Budget
documents
show
this
project
cost
approx
approximately
4.3
million
and
required
1
million
from
the
general
fund
to
go
to
to
front
load.
The
police
impact
fee
account
on
one
of
the
responsibility.
BO
One
of
the
responsibilities
of
the
government
is
to
provide
public
services
for
the
citizenry
and
to
do
so
in
a
fiscally
sound
manner,
as
required
by
section
67-6502,
subsection
b
of
the
idaho
code.
This
provision
is
based
on
the
language
of
the
original
model,
act
for
city
planning
and
wise
and
efficient
expenditure
of
public
funds.
The
city's
financial
relationship
with
the
proposed
location
is
critical
issue.
BO
BO
You
don't
want
to
build
a
station
at
5
million
and
commit
to
two
million
a
year
in
operations
in
the
wrong
place,
since
this
police
station
was
specifically
cited
to
be
near
the
current
ifs,
shelter,
reclo
relocating
this
shelter
away
from
the
downtown
area
will
result
in
a
waste
of
taxpayer
money.
Please
uphold
the
decision
of
the
pnc.
J
H
BO
Great
in
the
loan
documents,
it
specifically
says
that
they
they
have
to
have
a
minimum
of
200
emergency
shelter
beds
to
acquire
the
loan
and
operate
great.
Thank
you
anything.
BP
Erica
schofield,
I
live
in
the
northwest
neighborhood,
madam
mayor
and
council
members.
I
greatly
appreciate
council
member
craig's
acknowledgement
during
monday's
hearing
that
the
experts
aren't
always
right.
I'm
not
an
expert
on
domestic
abuse,
but
I
am
a
survivor
of
a
domestic
abuse
relationship
that
lasted
three
years,
and
I
realized
that
the
domestic
abuse,
shelter
that
is
150
feet
from
this
proposed
location
is
a
sensitive
topic,
and
it
would
be
preferred
that
we
not
talk
about
this.
BP
But
the
problem
of
incompatibility
of
these
two
shelters
needs
to
be
part
of
the
record
in
the
discussion
and
the
decision,
this
proposed
location
is
entirely
insensitive
to
the
woman
and
children
seeking
protection
from
domestic
abuse
at
the
facility
close
by
it's
very
easy
for
people
to
say
why
doesn't
she
just
leave
him?
It's
not
that
simple.
When
every
day
means
you
are
walking
on
eggshells,
because
you
don't
know
when
or
where
the
next
violent
eruption
will
occur.
BP
It
took
every
ounce
of
courage.
I
had
to
leave
him.
My
experience
is
not
unusual,
so
it's
astonishing
to
me
that
anyone
would
think
that
this
is
a
compatible
location
for
a
low
barrier
facility,
with
a
large
percentage
of
single
males
who
are
chronically
homeless
and
have
been
described,
as
quote
the
worst
of
the
worst
unquote
by
a
staff.
Member
of
ifs
during
the
august
16th
shelter,
better
task
force.
Meeting
the
staff
member
was
being
honest
in
speaking
about
the
individuals
and
the
challenges
and
the
help
with
the
mental
health,
health
issues
and
severe
addiction.
BP
BP
BP
BQ
Hi
there
I'm
clay
elkin
a
veteran's
park
neighbor.
My
testimony
as
a
private
citizen
is
informed
by
professional
experience
as
a
firefighter
emt
permanently
assigned
to
boise
fire
engine
5
while
referred
to
as
lay
by
the
appellant.
It
is
based
on
expert
level,
public
safety
experience
and
knowledge
slide.
BQ
BQ
BQ
This
data
was
obtained
from
the
ada
county
sheriff's
office
through
public
records,
request
the
septed
report
and
the
911
dispatch
data
reveal
similar
call
volume,
burdens
attributable
to
ifs
chiefs.
Lee
and
niemeyer
both
stated
that
increased
911
call
volumes
will
likely
follow
ifs,
pcc,
appropriately
denied
the
cup
based
on
this
public
safety
impact
chief
niemeyer
recommended
20
hours
of
an
emt
on
site,
but
based
on
experience,
the
sick
versus
not
sick
triage
would
not
decrease
the
incidence
where
transport
and
treatment
are
required.
BQ
Additionally,
chief's
testimony
on
emergent,
vs
non-emergent
calls
doesn't
clarify
how
our
9-1-1
dispatching
works.
Many
of
the
calls
you
referred
to
as
non-emergent
are
still
emergencies
in
the
eyes
of
the
calling
public
and
are
often
dispatched
as
level
bravo
or
above,
which
require
an
emergent
response
from
fire
and
ems.
BQ
BQ
Ifs
also
operates
at
the
red
lion
hotel.
This
slide
demonstrates
the
fire
and
ems
call
volume
increase
at
that
location.
While
we
cannot
predict
the
weather,
we
can
anticipate
the
significant
9-1-1
call
volume
increase.
As
chiefs
lee
and
niemeyer
stated,
we
also
have
a
scarcity
of
public
safety
resources
in
the
proposed
location
noted
by
chief
niemeyer's
testimony
and
illustrated
by
the
ems
transport
unit
map
created
by
the
boise
fire
department
obtained
through
public
records.
BQ
The
proposed
location
is
without
an
ems
transport
unit
within
the
four-minute
travel
time
identified
by
nfpa
iso
vfd
policy
and
adopted
by
boyce
municipal
code.
The
nine-minute
travel
time
referenced
by
chief
niemeyer
is
an
access
standard
and
not
supported
by
boise
city
documents.
In
conclusion,
my
testimony
is
based
on
expert
level
experience
and
knowledge
of
public
safety
impacts.
The
pcc
appropriately
denied
the
application
based
on
the
undue
burden
on
our
public
safety
resources.
Noted
in
the
record.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I'll
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
K
You,
madam
mayor
hi,
could
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
these
numbers
in
terms
of
ada
county
paramedics
response?
Yesterday
I
asked
a
question
of
the
chief
kind
of
as
a
story
problem
with
the
current
delineation
and
timing.
You
just
mentioned
something
about
the
statistics
he
gave
being
a
from
a
different
source.
Can
you
drill
down
a
little
bit
on
that?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand.
BQ
That
nine-minute
travel
time
that
was
for
als
the
five-minute
travel
time.
He
referred
to
those
are
adopted
by
access
which
most
of
you,
I'm
sure,
are
familiar.
Access
includes
meridian,
eagle,
cuna,
eddie,
county
paramedics.
BQ
Those
are
not
supported
by
any
of
our
boise
city
documents,
so
our
boise
fire
department
policy
regarding
level
of
service
references,
four
minute
travel
time,
you'll
find
that
in
policy
two.
BQ
Additionally
in
boise
city
municipal
code,
I
think
it's
4316
ordinance
5517,
all
those
are
in
the
public
record
reference
either
1.5
mile
travel,
distance
or
4-minute
travel
time
for
our
response
and
you'd
have
to
ask:
why
did
the
city
of
boise
fire
department
put
together
these
maps
regarding
this
four
minute
travel
time
previously,
but
all
of
a
sudden
we're
talking
about
a
nine
minute
or
a
five
minute
travel
time?
It's
because
at
the
time
these
maps
were
put
together.
BQ
You
thank
you
yeah.
At
the
time
these
maps
were
put
together
to
my
understanding.
This
was
the
standard
that
we
were
looking
at
and
it's
reflected
in
based
on
the
boise
city
documents
in
boise
fire
department
policy.
So
that
is
my
assumption
on
why
this
four-minute
travel
time
was
used.
Additionally,
nfpa
standards
and
iso
standards
reference
the
same
four
minute
or
1.5
mile
travel
distance.
Okay,
thank
you.
Adam.
F
BQ
I
think
that's
a
fair
assumption.
The
boise
fire
department
does
not
transport,
though,
so,
if
you
need
to
go
to
the
hospital
emergency
emergently,
you
need
a
transport
unit
to
do
that,
so
you'll
get
treatment
and
you'll
get
care,
but
that's
why
I
mentioned
the
transport
component
of
it,
because
this
is
this
is
where
that
gap
is
for
us
appreciate.
BR
Hello,
my
name
is
katie
fight,
1006,
north
fifth
boise.
Idaho.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
write
to
provide
testimony.
I
believe
boise
can
do
so
much
better
than
this
reckless
interfaith
proposal
on
state
street.
BR
I'm
really
concerned
too
about
the
the
unnecessary
trauma
that
I
will
that
what
I
believe
is
a
reckless
proposal,
a
reckless
way
of
going
about
citing
a
shelter
by
interfaith
sanctuary,
the
degree
of
trauma
it's
caused
to
the
community
to
the
neighbors
to
the
neighborhood,
and
it
has
you
know,
also
generated
uncertainty
within
you
know
the
the
shelter
community
too.
BR
You
will,
if
you
overturn,
planning
and
zoning's
very
well
reasoned,
very
well
articulated
decision.
You
will
be
creating
new
problems
in
potential
homelessness
or
displacement
of
people
of
modest
income
within
the
city,
because
there's
no
doubt
that
property
values
will
decline.
It's
no
there's,
no
doubt
that
people
will
that
that
no
longer
choose
to
stay
in
a
neighborhood,
potentially
because
of
fear
of
you
know
for
safety
for
themselves,
their
children
whatever
will
be
displaced
and
with
property
values.
BR
The
way
they
are
we'll
very
likely
have
no
place
else
to
go
within
our
city.
So
I
would
ask
you
to
look
at
the
cares:
funding,
you're,
getting
and
other
avenues
to
move
forward
with
a
much
more
just,
well-thought-out,
well-planned
and
fair
to
everybody
in
the
city
proposal.
A
So
next
up
we're
going
to
move
to
the
zoom
portion
of
the
afternoon
and
for
this
part,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
clerk
to
call
names,
name
by
name
and
I'll,
just
remind
folks
on
zoom
that
and
once
you've
testified
we're
going
to
move
you
off
the
system
and
you
can
watch
from
youtube.
B
Looks
like
we
have
mr
gilchrist,
I
think
was
first
up
or
excuse
me,
brenda
gilchrist.
A
BM
BS
Volunteer
at
the
interface
sanctuary,
I've
been
very
impressed
by
the
way
the
interfaith
sanctuary
staff
have
served
the
city
of
boise
by
providing
shelter
and
support
to
our
homeless
neighbors,
particularly
over
the
last
24
months,
when
covid
has
added
exponentially
to
an
already
enormous
task
on
a
nightly
basis.
These
creative,
caring
and
courageous
people
address
the
challenges
of
providing
a
low
barrier
emergency
service
in
a
very
humane
way.
BS
BS
BS
BS
BS
A
K
B
Mayor
it
appears
that
brenda
is
unmuted,
so
we'll
see
if
on
her
in
the
audience
right.
L
J
L
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
it,
but
so
my
name's
brenda
and
I
moved
to
idaho
from
a
city
that
had
the
fifth
largest
homeless
population
in
the
united
states.
L
I
think
we
can
learn
from
other
cities
and
counties
on
what
their
experience
has
been
with
homelessness
and
low
barrier
housing
shelters,
such
as
ifs
in
2019,
a
large
1100
bed,
problematic,
shelter
in
salt
lake
city
was
closed
down
and
reopened
as
three
separate
shelters
that
served
different
populations,
including
single
men,
single
women
and
men
and
women's
shelters.
L
A
separate
family
facility
was
renovated
by
nearby
midvale
as
well.
Although
the
salt
lake
shelters
separate
separate
populations
by
demographics,
they
are
similar
to
the
interfaith
sanctuary's
proposed
shelter
in
size,
a
range
of
between
200
and
300
beds.
Each
they
allow
guests
to
remain
in
the
shelter
all
day
and
they
often
they
offer
wrap
around
services.
L
However,
it
should
be
noted
that
the
salt
lake
shelters
provide
twice
as
much
space
per
person
as
a
proposed
shelter
on
west
state
street
interfaith
sanctuary
often
argues
that
crimes
of
criminal
crimes
of
survival
will
be
reduced
using
the
24-hour
service
model
and
mayor
mclean.
You've
all
you've
often
referenced
these
shelters
during
your
addressing
homelessness.
L
Listening
sessions,
we
obtain
police
call
volume
data
and,
if
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
obtained
police
call
volume
data
for
the
200
bed,
women's
shelter
and
the
200
bed,
women
and
men's
shelter
from
one
year
before
and
one
year
after
opening
crimes
and
criminal
activity
were
significantly
elevated
within
close
proximity
of
these
new
shelters.
After
opening.
In
some
instances,
the
police
calls
increased
by
several
orders
of
magnitude.
L
This
slide
shows
the
percentage
increase
in
select
calls
after
opening
of
the
men's
and
women's
shelters.
Next
slide,
please.
This
slide
shows
the
percentage
increase
in
selected
calls.
After
opening
the
women's
shelter
note,
a
significant
increase
increase
in
police
calls
in
almost
all
call
types.
The
300
bed
men's
shelter
showed
an
even
more
dramatic
increase.
T
BT
Okay,
hello,
madam
mayor
city,
council,
members
and
interfaith
sanctuary:
reps:
my
name
is
cora
estelida
edelen
and
I
am
testifying
to
you
as
a
concerned,
citizen,
homeowner,
taxpayer
and
voter.
I
have
lived
on
willow
lane
and
in
the
veterans
park,
neighborhood
association
for
over
30
years.
I
urge
you
to
please
support
planning
and
zoning
commission's
decision
to
deny
the
cup
application.
BT
I
have
included
my
sources
at
the
end
of
this
document.
Moving
ifs
to
state
street
would
not
solve
the
crime
issues
that
were
reported
or
solve
the
homeless
issue.
It
would
just
move
them
to
a
different
area:
the
needles,
drugs,
human
feces
and
vomit
and
trash
found
by
the
idaho
state
police
at
the
tent
demonstration
validate
these
concerns
and
shows
that
these
problems
will
follow
them
wherever
they
go.
BT
It
is
terrifying
to
think
of
unmedicated
mental
patients,
alcoholics
and
drug
addicts,
roaming,
our
neighborhood
at
all
hours
of
the
day
and
night,
the
people
of
ifs
and
you
get
to
go
home
at
the
end
of
the
day.
This
is
our
home.
We
have
nowhere
else
to
go.
You
have
a
responsibility
and
an
obligation
for
the
safety
of
all
citizens.
Not
just
the
homelessness,
the
chief
of
police's
response
about
protection
for
our
neighborhood
was
no
plans
for
increased
protection.
BT
This
adds
fear,
stress
and
certainty,
as
well
as
added
cost
and
financial
burden
to
people
who
may
not
be
able
to
afford
cameras,
fencing
and
security
measures
to
protect
their
property.
The
area
towards
the
end
of
willow,
lane
close
to
the
entrance
of
the
greenbelt
where
it
connects
to
willow
lane
and
the
park,
would
be
a
prime
place
for
those
that
don't
stay
at
the
shelter
to
congregate,
especially
at
night,
unless
the
police
are
called
activity
would
go
unnoticed.
The
grand
the
good
neighbor
agreement
does
not
hold
ifs
accountable.
When
asked.
BT
If
the
agreement
worked,
they
were
unable
to
give
an
example
of
a
situation.
It
solved
ifs
made
the
choice
to
sell
their
current
property
before
getting
the
new
one
approved.
Now
that
you're,
trying
to
duke
the
public
into
paying
the
consequences
for
their
decision.
The
deliberate
misleading
information
being
told
to
the
media
and
boise
citizens
that
no
beds
available
and
being
at
crisis
level
is
deceitful
and
manipulative.
BT
The
boise
rescue
mission
has
stated
they
had
beds
available
at
their
shelters
and
that
the
people
have
chosen
to
be
on
the
streets
because
they
don't
want
to
follow
rules
that
limit
their
drug
and
alcohol
lose.
There
is
a
lot
of
information
showing
that
putting
a
low
barrier,
shelter
in
in
the
residential
area
and
close
to
businesses
from
here,
and
what
we
see
along
with
information
from
other
states,
is
a
dangerous
idea.
I
would
hope
that
boise
would
learn
from
that
and
what
has
happened
else
without
having
to
experience
the
problems
themselves.
BT
BT
BU
I
live
on
hawthorne
drive
in
the
sycamore
overlay,
just
north
of
the
proposed
shelter
caught
me
a
little
off
guard.
I
didn't
think
you'd
be
ready
for
a
virtual
testimony
today.
So
I
don't
have
my
remarks
written
down
yet
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
commend
ifs
for
the
work.
They
do
they're,
obviously
a
good
organization
and
have
good
intentions,
and
I
think
the
vast
majority
of
people
support
the
trying
the
work
they're
trying
to
do.
However,
they
they
failed
on
multiple
accounts.
BU
I
don't
want
to
rehash
much
of
the
testimony
that's
been
given
over,
but
I've
learned
a
couple
of
new
things
from
ifs
testimony
that
they
really
hadn't
come
forward
clearly
with
in
prior
meetings
and
testimony,
and
the
first
is
how
the
executive
director
said
they
arrived
at
the
number
of
beds
before
she
had
always
claimed
that
they
were
working
off
of
best
practices.
BU
But
in
fact
yesterday
she
testified
that
they
looked
at
the
number
of
people
they
were
serving
and
took
that
and
figured
out
how
to
put
those
people
into
the
space
that
they
had.
Obviously,
the
neighborhood
groups
have
done
more
research
into
best
practices
than
what
the
ifs
did
they
backed
into
the
situation,
rather
than
looking
at
what
the
best
practice
would
be
and
what
they
would
need
to
solve
the
problem.
BU
The
other
is
that
I
put
in
my
prior
letter
to
you
is
that
you
they
have
used
a
burn,
the
boat
strategy,
which
the
the
ceo
of
the
organization
of
the
board
of
directors
outlined.
They
they
face
a
problem
that
many
businesses
face
and
being
a
non-profit,
does
not
exempt
them
from
solving
those
problems.
That
is,
if
they're,
in
a
tough
real
estate
market
and
they
they
have
a
problem
to
solve.
BU
But
when
you
take
the
risk
that
they
did
of
buying
a
building
before
you
get
your
use
permitted,
you
run
the
risk
of
having
that
use
tonight,
I'm
not
going
to
rehash
all
of
the
testimony
given,
but
it's
very
clear
from
the
testimony
that
others
have
given
that
the
use
is
not
compatible
with
the
neighborhood
there.
No
matter
what
conditions
you
do
write
there
will
be
negative
impacts
that
cannot
be
mitigated.
BU
That's
a
that's
a
needy
population,
just
like
everybody
that
are
homeless
and
then
housed
and
the
city
needs
to
work
harder
with
them,
and
all
of
us
as
residents
need
to
help
too,
but
it's
very
clear
from
the
requirements
of
getting
a
cup
that
ifs
has
not
met
them.
Mr
wardles
argued
hard
but
failed
to
show
that
the
the
decision,
the
planning
zoning
commission
made
is
faulty
and
I
urge
you
to
uphold
that
decision.
Thank
you.
BV
BV
There
have
been
some
inaccurate
information
presented
regarding
poverty
levels
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
know
this
is
repetitive
and
the
photographs
were
shown
earlier
of
nearby
trailers
and
homes,
and
most
of
these
homes
were
built
50
years
ago
or
more.
I
drive
by
them
every
day
on
my
way
to
and
from
work.
Neighbors
like
these,
that
own
have
owned
their
homes
for
over
20
years
will
have
an
increase
in
siren
noise.
BV
We've
already
seen
an
increase
in
cyber
noise
with
valor
point
the
traffic
just
today
on
our
lunch
break
going
from
home
to
work.
I
just
could
not
believe
this.
The
the
the
reduction
in
the
state
street
speed
limit,
dropping
it
to
35,
starting
at
hollister.
People
just
disregard
that,
and
there
are
they.
I
just
can't
even
imagine
trying
to
cross
that
street,
because
nobody
goes
35
on
that.
BV
In
that
stretch
of
road,
a
buffer
between
a
large
emergency
homeless,
shelter
is
crucial
to
the
health
of
all
of
our
boise
neighbors,
particularly
boise's,
most
vulnerable.
I
just
don't
think
we
should
ignore
the
clear
social
inequality
and,
as
I
previously
mentioned,
I've
lived
on
the
street
for
33
years.
I've
lived
through
times
of
struggle
times
of
debt
and
my
own
financial
vulnerability.
BV
BS
BW
Okay,
thank
you.
My
name
is
ren
gardner.
I
live
exactly
right
behind
the
proposed
interfaith
sanctuary
site.
I
share
100
feet
of
property
line
with
them.
I
have
been
here
since
1954
on
and
off
continuously
since
1980
in
this
very
house.
BW
I've
watched
all
of
the
development
that
has
gone
on
in
this
whole
area
here,
with
the
commercial,
the
building
of
the
building
and
all
of
those
things,
the
sale
of
it
from
what
it
was
over
to
the
salvation
army
and
the
salvation
army
of
course
said
that
they
were
going
to
be
great
neighbors
and
take
care
of
us
and
do
all
of
those
things.
BW
Well,
they
were
good
to
come
in.
They
did
not
house
people
here.
This
was
strictly
a
store.
The
housing
was
all
done
across
state
street
over
in
the
willa
lane
park
right
there
and
which
is
currently
the
women
and
children's
alliance
center.
BW
They
as
far
as
the
city
coming
and
supporting
us
as
neighbors
with
our
complaints,
we
were
sent
wherever
to
work
it
out
with
the
salvation
army,
and
I
foresee
the
same
thing
happening
with
the
interfaith
sanctuary
that
if
you
approve
this
and
let
them
go
forward
that
we
will
be
left
out
here
on
our
own
in
this
area,
and
we
will
consequently
have
to
try
to
work
it
out
with
interfaith
sanctuary.
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
the
residents.
It's
not
fair
to
the
residents
of
interfaith
sanctuary.
BW
We
all
agree
that
homelessness
is
a
problem,
but
the
current
model
that
interfaith
has,
I
believe,
needs
to
be
modified
greatly,
and
if
you
want
to
bring
one
into
this
area,
I
would
not
be
opposed
to
it,
but
these
people
that
are
going
to
be
housed
here
have
to
want
to
get
better
than
where
they're
at
today.
If
they
don't
want
to,
we
don't
need
them.
That
would
be
in
my
opinion,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
consideration.
BW
P
No
well
shoot.
Okay,
then.
Okay.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
council
members.
My
name
is
sarah
christensen.
I
was
a
volunteer
and
employee
at
the
interfaith
sanctuary,
from
2010
through
mid-2016.
I
left
because
my
mother
was
an
ill
health.
For
years.
I
was
a
volunteer
who
signed
in
guests.
They
walked
through
the
door.
I
had
people
who
wanted
hugs,
which
was
my
preferred
method
of
greeting
and
others
who
would
get
angry
if
I
asked
them
their
name.
I
have
tough
skin
and
I
loved
the
position
I
was
in.
P
P
P
I
had
police
officers
who
would
regularly
pop
in
during
the
night
to
see
how
I
was
doing.
I
once
had
someone
who
was
prone
to
violence
and
banned
from
the
shelter
show
up,
while
other
guests
were
sleeping,
I
had
to
run
from
door
to
door
locking
down
the
place
while
calling
the
police.
At
the
same
time.
I
also
worked
there
when
cooper,
cam
cooper
court
became
tent
city.
I
really
I
regularly
just
dis
sorry
de-escalated
situations
that
were
caused
by
a
guest
and
not
others
from
the
area.
P
There
were
many
beautiful
grateful,
loving,
inspiring
guests.
However,
many
had
mental
dysfunctional
and
addictive
challenges
that
would
bring
safety
issues
to
the
area.
They
would
sleep
or
frequent.
Those
who
are
causing
the
low
and
high
level
incidents
often
don't
want
to
get
caught,
so
they
don't
actually
do
it
on
shelter
property.
Several
years
ago
there
was
a
shelter
guest
beaten
to
death
by
another
shelter
guest.
They
had
talked
to
not
long
before
the
incident,
although
it
was
an
isolated
incident.
P
P
P
We
have
had
non-guests
come
to
see
guests
for
a
wide
range
of
reasons.
This
will
increase
the
number
of
people
hanging
around
the
shelter
area.
As
a
low
barrier,
shelter
guests
will
be
asked
to
leave
for
excessive
non
intoxicated,
behavior
rule
breaks
and
where
will
they
go?
It
absolutely
affects
the
neighborhood.
It's
disrespectful
to
house
the
guests
and
propose
guests
in
the
area
where
they
walk,
where
they
could
walk
from
one
shelter
to
another
and
nearby
resources
when
needed.
P
I
was
just
gonna
say
most
guests,
don't
call
first
and
they
will
have
nowhere
to
go
being
so
far
away
from
their
resources
and
other
shelters.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
BX
My
name
is
lindsay
clark
youngworth,
I
am
a
native
idahoan,
a
business
owner
and
a
homeowner.
I
lived
for
a
long
time
actually
raised
my
son
on
wiley
lane.
I
still
own
that
home
now
and
offer
it
as
affordable
housing
for
as
an
affordable
housing
rental,
which
is
very
very
close
to
the
proposed
shelter
facility,
and
I
am
in
support
of
the
interfacing
choice,
expansion
into
my
neighborhood
and
unfortunately,
in
our
community.
Right
now
we
have
an
extraordinary
lack
of
affordable
housing
in
our
urban
areas.
BX
Rent
is
more
than
half
of
most
individuals
take
home
pay,
and
I
know
that
there
is
a
lack
of
shelter
for
our
growing
need
of
help,
and
this
whole
conversation
has
been
really
helpful.
I
think
not
just
for
the
council,
but
also
ms
steiger's,
as
she
tries
to
come
up
with
the
solution
for
for
the
community
that
she
serves
and
we
do
need
to
make
an
effort
to
increase
our
affordable
housing.
BX
It
is
important
to
remember
that
at
any
time
we
may
be
acquainted
with
or
related
to
a
resident
of
a
shelter,
and
these
neighbors
have
the
right
to
live
a
life
of
dignity.
This
proposed
location
is
more
centrally
located
than
their
current
location.
Downtown
has
parking,
is
close
to
the
greenbelt
bike
path
and
on
the
bus
line
making
competing
to
and
from
the
shelter
for
work
and
doctors,
appointments
safer
and
easier
and
lower
costs
for
residents.
BX
I
have
volunteered
for
the
shelter
in
the
past
and
I
have
been
a
long-time
financial
supporter
of
the
sanctuary.
I
believe
that
interface,
continued
programs
and
expansion
of
those
programs
will
only
increase
the
health
of
our
community.
I
don't
think
the
conversation
ends
here.
I
think
it
will
continue
to
grow
and
improve.
BX
A
You
ma'am.
J
H
Lindsay
you
mentioned
that
you
thought
this
was
potentially
a
better
location
because
it
was
more
centrally
located.
Can
you
explain
to
me
what
you
mean
by
more
centrally
located
than
its
current
location.
BX
I
think
well,
you
have
it's
easier
for
residents
to
get
to
if
they're
working
in
eagle,
for
example,
or
some
of
the
other
outlying
towns
around,
even
also
to
that
curtis
interchange.
I
know
that
the
down
to
downtown
location
is
really
close
to
getting
on
to
the
connector,
but
if
you
don't
have
a
car,
you
know
you
have
a
few
more.
You
know
opportunities
to
get
on
different
bus
lines
from
that
state
street
locations.
What
my
thinking
is,
there's
probably
closer
employment.
BX
B
BY
And
I
have
a
slide
deck.
It's
cup
21-00026.
BY
BY
Madam
mayor
and
city
council
members,
my
name
is
lorraine,
fuji
and
I
live
in
the
lake
harbor
area.
I
challenge
the
applicant's
assertion
that
the
commission
only
heard
opposition
from
lay
people
and
did
not
rely
on
substantial
competent
evidence.
Here
are
some
of
the
testimonies
they
saw
next
slide.
BY
Clay
elkin
is
a
first
responder
stationed
at
the
downtown
fire
station
five.
During
his
testimony,
he
detailed
facts
about
fire
and
ems.
911
call
volumes
to
the
temporary
warming,
shelter
and
the
red
lion
inn
calls
increased
by
795
percent
to
the
warming,
shelter
and
295
percent
to
the
red
lion
when
ifs
was
using
these
locations.
BY
BY
Scott
long,
a
24
24
year,
employee
of
the
boise
fire
department,
responded
to
calls
directly
to
and
surrounding
interfaith
sanctuary.
He
witnessed
and
responded
to
cases
of
assault,
intoxication
drug
use,
overdoses
and
mental
illness.
That
originated
directly
from
the
shelter
scott
worries
that
an
even
larger
shelter
will
produce
even
greater
call
volumes
next
slide.
BY
The
officers
are
stressed
out
overworked
and
they
recognize
that
this
move
will
overburden
the
department
in
a
time
when
it
is
difficult
to
find
citizens
who
are
willing
to
step
up
and
become
police
officers.
Many
police
officers
are
concerned
considering
resigning
or
moving
to
neighboring
precincts.
BY
A
All
right,
we
have
nobody
else
online.
Is
there
anybody
else
in
the
room
today
planning
on
testifying
all
right
with
that?
I'm
going
to.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
making
it
through
the
day
with
us
today
and
the
way
in
which
you
shared
your
testimony.
We
will
start
tomorrow
at
four.
I
believe,
four
o'clock.