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D
E
E
B
Up
we
have
under
special
business
a
reconsideration
and
mediation
request.
Josh
Wilson
will
be
presenting.
F
Thank
you.
Madam
mayor
members,
Council
on
November
15
2022
city
council
heard
an
appeal
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning.
F
To
approve
a
design
review
application
drh-22-00074
located
on
Warehouse
way,
it
was
for
an
industrial
development
comprising
seven
buildings.
City
council
denied
that
Appeal
on
and
revised
findings
and
conditions
were
issued
on
December
6
2022..
Subsequently,
the
appellants
submitted
a
request
for
reconsideration
and
mediation
on
December
19th
staff
finds
that
the
request
for
reconsideration,
which
is
included
in
your
packets
tonight,
does
not
include
new
information
or
information
that
was
previously
unavailable
to
council
at
those
at
that
hearing.
F
Additionally,
applicant
has
gone
to
to
the
links
to
make
modifications
to
the
project,
including
with
those
required
by
city
council,
at
that
hearing
beyond
what
was
required
by
the
planning
zoning
commission
to
mitigate
those
adverse
impacts.
Therefore,
staff
recommends
that
city
council
does
not
Grant
the
request
for
reconsideration
of
mediation
that
stand
for
any
questions.
Thank
you.
B
All
right
for
lack
of
motion,
then
this
is
denied
we're
going
to
move
ahead
to
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
with
an
asterisk
are
considered
to
be
routine
by
the
council
and
will
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
There'll
be
no
separate
discussion
on
these
items
unless
a
council,
member
or
citizen
still
requests,
in
which
case
the
item
will
be
removed
from
the
general
order
of
business
and
considered
in
its
normal
sequence.
B
E
E
D
B
Thank
you,
and
now
we
are
going
to
move
into
the
public
hearings
for
the
evening.
First
up,
we've
got
cr22-23,
but
just
as
we
move
into
these
there's
three
tonight
and
we'll
take
the
wolf,
the
first
two
will
take
first,
the
city
and
then
the
applicant,
and
at
least
in
this
next
one
we
expect
the
less
Street
neighborhood
to
be
here
is
a
neighborhood
association
representative.
Here,
if
you're
online,
let
us
know
and
I've
got
one
sign
up
for
this
Zach
Gray
is
that
here.
B
Great
sure,
so,
if
you'd
like
to
testify
on
this
item
once
when
I
get
after
I
have
Mr
Gray
testify
I'll,
have
you
come
up
and
then
I'll
see
if
anybody
else
here
wants
to
testify
as
well
all
right
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
members
of
the
council.
The
applicant
is
requesting
to
rezone
approximately
1.76
Acres
from
a
C2
DC
and
R3
DC
zones
to
an
ro
ro
DC
with
a
development
agreement.
The
subject
properties
are
consid.
The
soldier
property
consists
of
two
Parcels
separated
separated
by
Lois,
Street
or
Lewis
Avenue,
which
is
the
public
Street.
I
As
you
can
see
from
the
aerofotograph,
the
central
property
is
located
within
the
lust
Street
District
neighborhood,
which
is
comprised
of
a
mix
of
residential
uses
and
Commercial
uses
located
on
the
west
side
of
Capital
Boulevard
near
downtown,
and
the
BSU
campus
and
now
seen
on
this
slide
here.
The
requested
rozone
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
area
due
to
the
proximity
to
the
downtown
BSU
and
Transit.
I
As
such
high
density
developments,
then,
what
is
currently
allowed
in
the
C2
and
R3
zones
is
supported
by
blueprint,
Boise
and
it's
encouraged
would
and
would
encourage
a
compact,
pedestrian,
friendly
infill
development,
while
still
maintaining
compatibility
with
the
area.
In
summary,
the
requested
rezone
is
compatible
with
the
comprehensive
plan
as
it
designated
the
site
mixed
use,
on
which
online
use
map
within
which
the
proposed
R
zone
is
allowed
and
anticipated.
The
rezone
is
being
requested
to
construct
two
buildings:
A
five-story
and
A
six-story
in
height
on
two
separate
parcels
which
are
adjacent
to
each
other.
I
The
two
buildings
will
provide
a
total
of
88
dwelling
units
comprised
comprised
of
a
mix
of
apartment
types
and
900
square
feet
of
commercial
on
the
ground
floor
of
the
building
along
Capital
to
ensure
active
and
Commercial
uses
along
the
street
Frontage
and
the
design
review
standards
of
the
Lost
Street
master
plan
have
been
met.
A
D.A
will
be
included
to
the
rezone,
and
these
are
the
conditions
that
are
that
are
in
that
will
be
included
in
the
D.A
and
they're,
also
in
the
draft
da
within
the
in
the
project
report.
I
The
reason
the
neighbor
okay,
the
neighborhood
association
and
several
members
of
the
public
have
expressed
concerns
of
the
project
in
terms
of
compatibility
and
compliance
with
the
Lost
Street
master
plan.
The
compatibility
concerns
are
in
response
to
the
site's
mass
and
size
of
the
building,
which
is
not
consistent
with
the
character
of
The
Lost,
Street,
neighborhood
and
Capital
Boulevard.
Now
we
note,
the
comprehensive
plan
anticipates
high
density
and
more
intense
uses,
given
it
cites
proximity
to
downtown
BSU
and
Transit
other
concerns.
I
The
project
is
that
it
does
not
provide
enough
storefront
commercial
and
that
it
was
another
student
housing
project
to
USC.
To
address
these
I
would
note
that
the
D.A
requires
a
minimum
40
of
the
street
Frontage
be
comprised
of
active
uses
along
with
commercial
use,
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
55
or
53
percent
of
active
uses
along
the
street
Frontage,
and
the
project
is
also
comprised
of
a
mix
of
Apartments
ranging
in
size
from
Studios
to
five
bedrooms.
I
J
Yes,
quick
question,
David,
just
to
clarify
what
you
just
said.
While
the
neighborhood
is
concerned
that
there's
not
enough
retail
Frontage
to
qualify
for
mixed
use
and
that
it
will
be
primarily
for
student
housing,
there
is
a
mix
of
apartment
types
and
there
is
at
least
in
building
the
one
building
closest
to
Capital
Boulevard.
A
substantial
amount
of
retail
on
the
ground
floor
is
that
what
I'm
hearing.
I
Madame
council,
member
Clegg,
the
that
is
correct,
the
it
is
a
mixed-use
building.
They
are
providing
a
mix
of
housing
types
from
Studios
to
five
bedrooms
within
the
units
and
there
is
900
square
feet
of
commercial
space
on
the
building
facing
capital.
K
Good
evening
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
Deborah
Nelson,
my
address
is
601
West,
Bannock
Street,
with
Givens
personally
and
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
team,
with
CA
Ventures,
as
your
applicant
they're,
proposing
to
rezone
1.76
Acres
at
1385,
South
Capitol
Boulevard
on
the
site
where
the
current
Elmer's
Diner
sits
and
their
parking
with
me
this
evening
are
representatives
from
the
project
team,
CA
Ventures
will
develop
own
and
operate
the
project.
Ca
Ventures
has
experience
around
the
country
developing
high
quality
residential
projects
with
modern
amenities,
and
a
few
examples
are
shown
here.
K
Sea
Of
Interest
currently
is
in
the
process
of
developing
the
917
Lusk
project
on
the
Green
Belt.
Just
north
of
this
site.
Bde
architecture
is
the
architect
for
this
project.
Bde
has
focused
on
this
building
typology
and
the
multi-family
market
for
over
25
years
and
Trevor
sure
is
with
me
here
this
evening.
The
land
group
is
the
civil
engineer
for
the
project.
K
We
appreciate
planning
staff
support.
The
project
design
has
evolved
based
on
feedback
from
the
city
and
from
Neighbors
Planning
and
Zoning
approved
this
project
unanimously
in
November,
and
we
agree
with
all
of
the
conditions
of
approval,
as
David
explained,
we're
seeking
a
reasoned
Ro
to
allow
the
construction
of
88
multi-family
housing
units
in
amenity,
space
with
ground
floor,
commercial,
Podium
parking
and
Street
improvements
and
two
buildings
that
straddle
Lois
Lane.
K
It
is
a
short
walk
or
bike
to
BSU
and
Morrison
Park,
the
green
belt
and
downtown
the
project
is
aligned
with
a
comprehensive
plan
on
the
future
land
use
map.
The
site
is
designated
as
mixed
use,
where
the
city
has
already
determined
that
Ro
is
an
appropriate
Zone
and
that
multi-family,
residential
and
Commercial
are
appropriate
land
uses.
K
Currently,
the
site
includes
Elmer's,
Diner
and
surface
parking.
The
slide
shows
views
of
the
current
surface
parking
lot
on
the
interior
lot
proposed
for
building
a
and
looking
down
lowest,
where
you
can
see
surface
parking
on
both
Lots.
These
pictures
illustrate
how
underutilized
this
key
infill
property
is
now.
K
This
slide
shows
the
lot
with
Elmer's,
Diner,
building
and
additional
surface
parking.
The
slide
illustrates
some
of
the
unique
and
constraining
features
of
this
site
as
well.
In
the
lower
left
picture,
you
can
see
a
landscaped
area
between
the
building
and
the
street,
which
is
actually
an
extra
parcel
of
land,
that's
owned
by
achd
and
is
not
part
of
the
project
site.
K
Also,
in
the
lower
right
picture,
you
can
see
the
existing
Landscaping
that
is
within
that
achd
parcel
and
on
our
site,
and
it
straddles
drainage,
District,
3's
easement
and
the
bub
Canal
that
runs
along
the
north
side
of
this
project.
There
is
a
significant
grade:
change
between
the
sidewalk
to
the
project
site,
with
an
approximate
10
foot
drop
in
the
aerial
which
is
in
the
upper
right.
You
can
also
see
the
canal
and
that
Associated
Landscaping
running
along
the
north
border.
K
The
upper
floors
include
an
exterior
Courtyard
with
a
spa
and
fire
pit.
A
clubhouse
with
a
lounge
and
game
area
and
the
fourth
floor
features
a
Sky
Lounge
with
an
exterior
Terrace
facing
capital
building.
A
the
interior
building
features
the
lobby
lounge
and
bike
storage
on
level.
One,
a
dog
run
a
quiet
space,
Zen
Courtyard
with
on
level
two
with
hammocks,
and
the
top
level
includes
an
in
an
indoor,
Sky
Lounge
and
an
exterior
Terrace
with
grill
and
fire
pits
featuring
Foothills
in
downtown
Skyline
views.
K
K
To
accommodate
this
much
retail
structured
parking
with
modern
vehicle
stackers
is
used
which
efficiently
hides
the
vehicles
from
the
streets.
The
street
frontages
will
be
improved
with
new
and
improved
sidewalks
in
alignment
with
the
lust
Street
master
plan
requirements.
Both
buildings
offer
exterior
patio
seating
along
their
Frontage
that
will
serve
the
general
project.
K
The
Lost
neighborhood
has
raised
concerns
about
added
student
housing.
This
project
is
designed
to
provide
a
mix
of
unit
sizes
to
attract
a
variety
of
residents,
but
our
expectation
is
that
the
project
will
also
help
meet
the
housing
need
for
Boise
State
students
who
remain
underserved
for
both
on
campus
and
off-campus
housing
options.
As
commissioner
Gillespie
noted
at
the
previous
hearing,
we
cannot
tell
students.
They
cannot
live
somewhere,
and
this
neighborhood
makes
sense
for
student
housing.
It
is
directly
across
from
bsu's
campus,
it's
on
a
Transit
Corridor
and
there
are
other
student
housing
complexes.
K
Nearby
market
demand
is
driving
student
housing
in
this
area
between
on-campus
and
off-campus,
purpose-built
student
housing.
Only
17
percent
of
enrolled
students
have
housing
a
concern
that
has
been
in
the
news
over
the
recent
months
and
years,
so
you've
interested
meet
with
BSU
about
this
project
and
BSU
was
supportive
of
this
use.
K
This
project
must
still
be
approved
by
the
design
Review
Committee,
but
we
want
to
show
you
some
of
the
elevations.
The
materials
are
in
alignment
with
the
neighborhood
architectural
details
and
reflect
feedback
from
planning
and
design
review.
Staff
and
neighbors
buildings
will
feature
high
quality
materials,
including
metal,
siding
with
an
urban
feel
like
other
projects
nearby,
that
was
Building
B
along
capital,
and
this
is
the
southern
view
of
that
from
Yale,
and
we've
highlighted
the
main
entry
opening
to
the
project.
K
K
The
site
aligns
with
a
number
of
blueprint,
Boise
specific
goals.
As
you
can
see
on
this
slide,
these
goals
include
encourage
vertical
mixed
use
and
design
activity
centers
to
support
existing
and
planned
Transit
to
promote
compact
walkable
development
patterns
that
support
Transit
and
reduce
carbon
emissions,
to
encourage
high
density
residential
development
as
part
of
the
Neighborhood
Activity
Center,
and
to
activate
streetscapes
and
encourage
Urban
building
forms.
K
The
project
is
also
consistent
with
the
Lusk
Street
area
master
plan.
Building
a
on
the
interior
lot
is
in
the
multi-family
hotel
sub-district,
which
is
shown
in
dark
purple.
The
lustrate
area
plan
notes
that
residential
and
hotel
uses
predominate
this
area,
and
this
is
an
appropriate
location
for
high
density
residential
uses.
K
Specifically,
the
plan
supports
housing
on
upper
floors
in
the
retail
sub-district,
and
that
is
exactly
what
this
project
is.
Providing
high
density
residential
in
the
multi-family
hotel,
sub-district
and
vertically
integrated
mixed-use
building
with
ground
floor
retail
and
housing
on
upper
floors
in
the
retail
sub-district.
K
The
project
also
aligns
with
the
goals
in
the
master
plan
generally
the
Urban
Design
goals.
The
project
creates
Urban
forms
and
designs
that
modernize
the
area
and
develops
a
vibrant
mix
of
uses.
The
street
level
space
is
activated
with
people-oriented
uses
at
a
corner
that
has
no
current
activation.
K
K
Ly
the
project
meets
the
transportation
goals
of
the
lust
Street
master
plan.
The
streetscape
will
include
parallel
parking,
creating
13
new
on-street
parking
spaces.
The
project
converts
surface
lots
to
New
Uses
locates
parking
within
structures
and
encourages
parking
reductions
based
on
proximity
to
Transit
and
walkable
environments.
All
consistent
with
plan
goals,
The
Pedestrian
environment
will
also
be
enhanced
with
wide
sidewalks
shade,
seating,
Street
trees
and
Street
lighting
foreign.
K
This
project
meets
the
rezone
criteria
of
Boise
city
code,
it
fulfills
the
goals
of
blueprint,
Boise
and
the
lust
Street
area
master
plan,
as
we've
walked
through
it
provides
needed,
housing
and
Retail
uses,
and
it
will
further
activate
the
lust
District.
For
all
these
reasons,
we
ask
for
your
approval
of
the
rezoned
RO
and
appreciate
your
consideration.
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
L
K
Madam
mayor
council
member
Beijing,
I'd,
be
happy
to
achd,
has
started
a
conversation
about
a
possible
a
re-improvement
or
new
Improvement
to
a
walkway
along
Capital
Boulevard.
It
sounds
like
it'll,
be
A,
New,
multi-use,
Path,
and
it
will
come
through
this
intersection,
which
will
be
great
it'll,
go
along
there
right
of
way,
which
is
in
the
portion
of
the
property.
That's
between
the
project
site
and
the
Capitol
Boulevard
as
it
crosses
the
bub
Canal
it'll
be
challenging.
There
will
be
some
reconstruction
needed
because
of
that
significant
elevation
drop.
K
K
So
we
have
accommodated
what
we
need
to
on
our
site
right,
we'll
make
whatever
room
is
needed
at
that
Northern
end
of
the
building
to
the
extent
it
needs
to
come
onto
the
property
and
not
be
entirely
within
the
right-of-way,
where
it
looks
like
it
will
fit,
but
there's
nothing
that
we
can
do
to
really
anticipate
the
construction
until
we
know
exactly
where
it's
going
to
go
and
what
they're
going
to
do
so
we
are,
we
have
a
condition
of
approval
that
we
worked
out
with
staff
to
coordinate
with
achd
in
the
city
as
needed
to
help
facilitate
that
in
the
future.
L
K
D
Madamir
Deb
I'm,
looking
at
the
traffic
impact
study
and
the
table
around
parking
space
requirements,
one
things
that
one
of
the
things
that
we've
seen
in
this
neighborhood
in
Lusk
is
that
if
you
have
a
four
bedroom
apartment,
you
have
four
students
living
there
and
they
all
have
cars.
D
And
so,
while
you
might
be
required
to
offer
1.5
spaces,
the
reality
is
is
that
you
have
far
more
cars
than
that.
So
I'm
curious.
If
you
will
be
taking
any
steps
to
mitigate
that
charging
for
extra
for
parking
or
anything
that
would
discourage
students
from
having
cars,
since
they
really
don't
need
them
to
get
around
that
area.
K
Mountain
America,
council
president.
Yes,
they
we
will
be
taking
advantage
of
the
city's
parking
reduction
that
are
awarded
to
multi-family
in
this
location
and,
as
is
supported
in
the
lustrate
Master's
plan,
specifically
to
do
so
when
you're
right
next
to
Transit.
But
we
think
that
it
works
here
and
for
a
number
of
reasons
that
it
isn't
entirely
the
larger
format
units
that
require
that
sometimes
do
have
more
parking
demand
when
you've
got
more
bedrooms,
that
we've
got
the
61
percent
of
those
smaller
bedroom
formats.
We
are
also
from
an
operational
standpoint.
K
If
you
don't
have
a
parking
space
with
your
lease.
You'll
know
that
right
up
front,
if
there's
not
something
that's
available
to
you,
so
you
won't
have
the
expectation
that
there's
a
it
won't
be.
First
come
first
serve
at
any
given
day.
So
you
will
know
whether
or
not
you
have
a
parking
space
operationally
Also.
There
will
be
a
appropriate
Provisions
taken.
They.
K
They
Illustrated
this
in
their
970
17
lust
project
as
well
to
provide
accommodation
for
multimodal
transportation
through
scooter
charging
stations
on
site
by
having
the
bike
repair
station
on
site
by
having
those
kinds
of
amenities
that
really
do
encourage
people
to
get
out
of
their
cars
and-
and
we
feel
that
from
the
location
as
well,
I
mean
literally
being
right
next
door
to
the
transit,
stop
and
being
across
the
street
from
BSU
and
walking
a
short
walk
to
downtown
that
you
will
not
need
a
car
here.
So
you
won't
expect
one
from
an
operational
standpoint.
K
K
D
Hope
so
too,
and
I
wish
that
more
students
would
realize
how
walkable
it
is
to
live
in
this
neighborhood,
because
going
there
on
any
given
day,
the
street
parking
is
all
taken
up
and
I
think
that
while
we
have
goals-
and
we
have
policies
that
support
those
goals,
sometimes
how
that
plays
it
out
in
reality
is
not
exactly
how
we
want
it
to
be
so
any
steps
that
can
be
taken
to
encourage
people
to
not
have
single-use
cars,
whether
that's
providing
a
couple
of
spots
for
car
share,
or
something
like
that.
D
M
And
Mary
I'm
kind
of
some
follow-up
on
on
those
questions,
I'm
having
some
flashbacks
from
a
past
meeting
that
we
had
last
year,
I
think
it
was
when
the
old
Pizza
Hut
was
getting
remodeled
to
very
similar
design
and
I.
Remember
one
of
the
issues
that
I
brought
forward
then
and
I
wanted
to
before
I
stated
that
say
that
I
would
never
advocate
for
more
car
parking
anywhere.
M
But
I
also
had
noted
that
I
took
some
issue
in
us
getting
multi-family
parking
discounts
to
a
facility
when
it
doesn't
seem
like
it's
actually
would
deserve
a
multi-family
discount.
And
let
me
explain
this
and
see
if
you
can
help
me
answer
the
question
when
I
think
of
like
a
multi-family
parking
reduction,
not
discount
I,
think
that
there's
probably
going
to
be
a
couple
of
parents,
maybe
and
a
couple
of
kids
during
the
unit,
and
so
maybe
that
one
unit
only
needs
one
car
or
potentially
needs
two
cars.
M
M
It
seems
like
you're,
you've
got
four
adults
that
probably
need
they're
going
to
show
up
with
four
Automobiles,
and
so
my
question,
for
you
is:
is
this
design
for
families,
or
is
it
really
designed
for
when
we're
talking
about
our
four
bedroom
shortages
that
we
have
out
there
in
the
community
that
you
brought
up
earlier?
Is
it
designed
to
meet
that
four
bedroom
shortage
or
those
four
bedrooms
really
designed
for
four
students.
K
Madame,
mayor
councilmember,
Hallie
Burton
there's
a
lot
of
questions
there.
So
let
me
see
if
I.
K
All
maybe
I'll
start
at
the
end
there.
You
know,
you
know
we
can't
tell
anyone,
they
can
live
there
or
not
live
there.
So
a
four
bedroom
could
could
house
a
family
or
it
could
house
students
right
from.
K
So
there
will
be
a
variety
of
all
the
way
Studio
to
five
bedrooms,
a
unit
mix
that
includes
61
of
the
studios
up
to
two
bedrooms
and
then
39
of
the
four
and
five
bedrooms.
So
it's
a
mix
so
as
to
who
would
rent
the
four
bedroom.
You
know
we
don't
we
don't
control
that
we
expect
in
this
neighborhood.
It
is
going
to
attract
a
lot
of
students.
It
just
that's.
K
What's
in
need
right
here,
whether
family,
if
families
came
there,
they
would
also
be
eligible
to
live
there
so
and
then,
looking
to
your
code
about
parking
reductions,
I
mean
I
I.
It's
interesting
the
policy
that
you
talk
about
what
you're
thinking
about
when
they
may
be
do,
but
that's
not
actually
reflected
in
your
in
your
code,
I
mean
what
your
code
says
about.
K
When
you
get
a
parking
reduction
for
multi-family,
it
has
to
do
with
proximity
to
Transit
whether
you're
providing
garage
Podium
parking,
whether
you
provide
on-street
parking,
which
this
project
does
as
well.
So
we
check
those
boxes
by
being
next
to
Transit
by
providing
on-street
parking
and
you
get
a
one-for-one
offset
for
that
by
providing
the
garage,
Podium
parking
and
but
and
having
alternative
means,
and
so
all
of
those
things
are
considered
and
you
get
percentages
for
each
one
of
those
different
categories
and
you
can
get
up
to
30
percent.
K
So
that's
what
that's
why
this
project
just
qualifies
without
needing
any
conditional
use,
permit,
requests
or
ask
for
more
because
it
just
meets
those
standards
in
your
code
and
I
mean
I.
Guess
I
would
suggest
that
that
is.
That
is
a
good
policy
when
you've
got
a
building,
that's
right,
regardless
of
who
lives
there.
When
you
are
right
next
door
to
Transit
it.
Maybe
it's
a
it's
a
behavior
style
that
has
to
be
encouraged
by
not
having
it
available.
K
But
if
you
want
to
encourage
dense
housing
in
this
neighborhood
and
particularly
in
this
building
along
Capital,
where
you're
trying
to
encourage
retail
on
the
ground
floor,
these
are
small
sites.
We
just
talked
about
how
they're,
not
the
Super
blocks
right,
so
you've
got
these
small
sites
and
in
a
in
this
building
footprint
you've
got
to
fit
ground
floor,
retail
and
parking,
and
if
you
expand
the
parking
requirements,
the
only
thing
you
can
eat
away
is
the
retail
the
upper
floors,
the
is
the
housing.
K
So
if
you
want
dense
housing,
there's
just
got
to
be
a
little
bit
of
give
somewhere,
and
so
the
the
development
project
absorbed
an
enormous
amount
of
cost
to
provide
more
retail
by
stacking.
They
have
these
incredible
stackers
to
do
the
parking
here,
but
they're
squeezed
as
tight
as
they
can
go.
So
there's
just
a
lot
of
trade-offs
with
that.
So
you
you
were
taking
advantage
of
the
parking
reduction
which
is
encouraged
in
the
Wall
Street
master
plan.
K
It
will
cause
people
to
have
to
live
a
little
differently
and-
and
we
hope
that
it
also
gives
you
that
functional
building
that
that
really
does
meet
your
parking
reduction
code,
intent,
amen.
M
Follow
up
on
that
question,
I
really
do
appreciate
your
answer.
I
do
think
that
it
looks
like
the
building
is
being
designed
specifically
for
students
and
kind
of
being
mentioned,
that
that
is
the
market
that
we're
kind
of
trying
to
appeal
to.
So
it
doesn't
necessarily
seem
that
we're
trying
to
draw
families
into
the
space
the
way
that
it's
designed
and
which
kind
of
gets
me
to
my
my
next
question.
M
This
is
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
come
up
from
the
the
neighborhood
association,
but
in
the
Lusk
master
plan
you
talk
about
the
different
areas
that
it
fits,
but
one
of
the
things
it
does
warn
us
about
is
that
student
housing
will
continue
to
quote
student
housing
will
continue
to
play
a
role
in
The
Bluff
Street
neighborhood,
but
it
should
not
be
the
sole
form
of
housing.
M
A
concentration
of
students
will
add
Vitality
demand
for
retail
services
and
street
life
to
the
district,
but
may
also
overwhelm
the
area
with
a
single
demographic,
and
that
was
a
concern
that
we
brought
up
in
our
previous
council
meeting,
and
we
have
two
of
these
developments
going
forward
tonight.
That
both
seem
to
be
catered
towards
students,
so
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
chance
to
answer
that
question
as
well
as
how
this
meets
that
area
of
the
plan
where
it
isn't
continuing
to
overwhelm
the
district
with
a
single
demographic.
K
Madame
mayor
council,
member
Hallie
Burton
the
market
drives
who
comes
to
rent
your
units,
but
the
design
of
the
building.
You
know
what
we've
done
here
to
provide
a
variety
of
housing.
Maybe
maybe
it
won't
entice
families
to
the
four
bedroom
units,
but
by
having
Studio
one
bedroom,
two
bedrooms,
it
may
entice
graduate
students,
it
may
entice
young
professionals,
May
entice
employees
that
work
at
BSU
that
want
to
be
close
by
like
the
vibrant
lifestyle
in
in
the
community.
K
The
market
will
tell
us
that,
but
those
are
the
types
of
people
we
think
may
come.
We
think
it
will
be
a
mix
of
students
and
young
professionals
that
want
to
live
close
by,
and
employees
of
the
of
the
business
is
in
the
area.
Cool.
B
K
And
Madam
mayor
council,
member
beijant
I,
don't
know
how
we
would
control
that
one
way
or
the
other.
So
if,
if
you
want
to
provide
dense
housing,
as
is
called
for
in
your
lust
Street
master
plan-
and
you
want
to
provide
a
mix
of
uses
this
building
that
is
designed
to
to
suit
those,
so
if
you
ended
up
with
I
mean,
maybe
it
may
be
by
comparison
to
the
original
buildings
built
in
the
area.
That'd,
be
one
good
way
to
explain
this.
K
What
the
first
student
housing
buildings
that
were
built
in
the
lust
area
didn't
have
a
mix
of
units,
they
were
all
geared
towards
student
housing.
They
were
a
large
format
and
they
didn't
have
retail
on
the
on
the
ground
floors,
and
so
it
really
did
attract
a
lot
of
that
and
I
think
that
may
be
a
Genesis
of
some
of
these
comments
in
the
plan.
Let's
make
sure
we
get
a
variety,
and
so
this
building
and
these
buildings
are
designed
to
try
to
attract
a
variety.
O
Yeah
that
mayor
Deb,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
I,
really
like
the
mix
and
the
variety
and
this
Housing
Development.
Can
you
give
us
a
sense
of
the
rental
rates,
because
you
know
you
have
it
up
to
I
think
four
or
five
bedrooms?
What
will
those
rent
for.
K
C
M
Just
the
reward
Council!
Well,
it's
a
question.
Are
they
do
you
know
if
they're
going
to
be
rented
per
unit
or
if
they're
gonna
like
per
bedroom?
Are
they
going
to
be
rented
as
like?
Here's
four
bedrooms
and
you
get
to
rent
that
for
1200
bucks
or
is
it
per
actual
bedroom.
K
K
M
K
J
Mirror
thank
you.
You
have
a
couple
of
questions
as
I
look
at
the
site
plan,
it
looks
like
those
are
attached
sidewalks
around
both
of
these
buildings
and
that
the
Landscaping
is
actually
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
building
rather
than
having
Landscaping
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
street.
K
K
C
K
Are
attached
and
then,
as
you
come
back
so
looking
from
Yale,
that's
where
you've
got
the
elevated
patio
there
and
then
is
that
correct,
yeah,
okay
and
then
and
that's
where
it
wraps
around.
So
is
it
the
tree,
the
landscaping?
That's
a
long
Capital
that
you're
questioning
and
that
so
most
of
that
is
in
the
achd
right-of-way.
J
So
my
question
is,
you
know
we.
We
know
that
having
Street
trees
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
actual
Street
space
makes
it
more
pleasant
to
walk.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
trying
to
get
students,
especially
if
they
live
in
this
District,
not
to
bring
their
cars,
but
I've
observed
that
a
lot
of
the
new
buildings
are
being
built
with
attached
sidewalks
and
the
Landscaping
is
back
against
the
building.
J
So
you
don't
get
that
street
tree
protection
that
you
see
with
a
detached
sidewalk
or
with
a
wider
sidewalk
with
the
tree
Wells
on
the
street
side
and
so
I'm,
bringing
that
up
not
just
for
you,
but
also
for
staff,
wondering
why
it
is
that,
while
the
all
of
the
street
sections
in
the
lustery
master
plan
call
for
Street
trees
on
the
street
side,
where
this
is
not
the
only
building
that
is
coming
forward
without
that
foreign.
K
I
know
you
said
that
was
directed
also
to
staff,
but
it
does
appear
that
these
are
the
the
trees
are
planned
in
the
tree
Wells,
and
so
yes,
it
is
going
to
be
in
a
little
blow
up
of
that.
I
think
it
does
help.
So
yes
with
the
attached
sidewalk,
then
the
trees
are
in
the
tree
Wells
before
the
the
patio
and
seating
arrangement.
K
So
is,
if
am
I
understanding
you're
concern,
but
having
them
in
the
tree.
Wells
doesn't
create
the
separation
to
the
sidewalk
that
you
would
get
with
the
detached
right
right.
J
K
P
Mayor
councilmember
Clegg
just
to
speak
to
that,
as
was
stated
in
the
presentation,
this
is
certainly
an
appropriate
place
for
density
and
for
denser
housing
and
for
mixed
use,
and
the
plan
is
taking
that
into
account.
It's
also
a
place
where
we
need
to
do
much
better
architecturally
and
from
a
design
standpoint.
P
This
is
on
our
main
Monumental
street
across
from
Boise
State
in
a
very
important
location
in
the
city,
not
that
every
location
doesn't
deserve
great
attention
and
quality
when
it
comes
to
architecture
and
design,
but
this
one
in
particular,
and
and
must
do
better
in
the
lust
District-
must
must
do
better
with
this
building
and
we
we
are
still
working
on
that.
So
there
were
images
shown
of
these
buildings
and
there's
been
discussion
with
our
design
review
staff.
Regarding
the
architecture,
we
still
need
to
do
better
and
we're
working
on
it.
J
Great
that's
great
to
hear
well
I,
you
know,
would
just
remind
staff
to
review
the
lust,
Street
master
plan
and
the
calls
for
the
street
sections
in
that
and
ensure
that,
as
this
goes
forward,
those
are
honored.
If
we
are
going
to
encourage
pedestrian
news.
My
last
question
again:
I,
don't
know
if
it's
for
you
or
staff,
but
this
has
a
traffic
impact
study,
as
we've
seen
with
the
traffic
impact
studies
that
we've
been
getting
lately.
J
Well,
that
we've
always
gotten
frankly,
but
now
we're
becoming
a
little
more
sensitized
to
the
fact
that
we
don't
we.
We
measure
that
all
of
the
cars
that
are
going
to
come
and
we
don't
measure
how
many
pedestrian
troops
and
how
many
bike
trips
and
the
kinds
of
things
we
might
need
to
do
to
the
streetscape,
to
make
sure
that
those
pedestrians
and
bikes
can
use
it
safely
and
so
again,
I
just
bring
this
up.
I
look
at
this
and
I'm
like
where
are
The
Pedestrian
counts.
Where
are
the
bike
counts?
K
Madam
mayor
councilmember
Clegg,
if
I,
might
provide
one
additional
comment
on
that.
This
is
one
of
an
unusual
traffic
study
where
they
actually
did
do
pedestrian
bike
counts.
I,
don't
know
if
you
noticed
that
they.
K
K
Yeah
zeros,
so
I
I,
don't
know
it's
curious
to
me.
There's
a
273
daily
pedestrian
and
bike
trips
coming
out
of
this
specific
building
in
use
24
in
the
AM
and
27
in
the
p.m.
So
I
thought
that
was
great,
because
I
know
that
commissioner
Danley
and
the
PNC
is
always
asking
for
that,
so
it
was
included
here
so
anyway
appreciate
your
comment
on
that,
and,
and
we'll
also
take
note
of
your
comments
on
the
streetscape
and
and
the
director's
comments
on
the
building
as
we
move
towards
design
review.
Thank
you.
B
O
Deb
I
had
a
follow-up
to
council
member
Holly.
Burns
follow
up
to
my
follow-up,
so
essentially,
I
want
to
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
how
you're
renting
these,
how
the
applicant
is
renting
so
do
I
understand
that
someone
could
hold
the
entire
lease
for
four
bedroom
apartment
or
someone
could
go
in
and
say:
I
want
one
bedroom
of
that
four
bedroom
apartment.
Can
you
clarify
that,
for
me,.
K
Madame,
mayor
councilmember
Willis,
that's
correct
operationally,
you
could
choose
either,
and
so,
if
somebody
comes
in
with
a
group
of
it,
I
think
what
happens
frequently
is
somebody
comes
in
with
a
roommate
that
they'd
like
to
live
with
and
they
rent
a
a
unit
together
or
it's
somebody
that's
renting
on
their
own,
and
they
want
to
have
you
know
the
studio
to
themselves
if
it
is
a
larger
format
unit
and
there's
multiple
people,
there
may
be
somebody
that
comes
in
individually
to
rent
a
bedroom,
and
that
would
also
be
allowed
in
the
larger
format,
and
so
that
that
means
somebody
else
could
individually
come
in
and
Lease
another
bedroom
in
that
unit.
B
Q
Q
Q
Also
I
want
to
ask
the
question:
does
rezoning
to
allow
for
even
more
student
co-housing
fit
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
neighborhood
master
plan.
I
would
also
like
to
discuss
the
project
deficiencies.
I
can
also
see
in
this
presentation.
The
placement
of
dumpsters
I
did
not
get
on
and
initially
during
the
presentation,
but
it
looks
like
they
are
still
going
forward
at
the
plan
of
the
dumpsters
within
the
right-of-way
and
also
Public
Safety.
Along
with
those
Street
section
designs,
you
guys
were
discussing.
Q
Now
development
proposals
require
defensible
arguments
that
the
replacement,
Zone
and
project
is
an
improvement
from
the
currently
planned
Zone.
They
also
require
adherence
to
all
codes,
comprehensive
plans
and
neighborhood
plans.
Our
goal
is
to
prove
that
the
zone
changes
do
not
improve
the
overall
well-being
of
the
neighborhood,
as
well
as
not
complying
with
the
city
of
Boise's
comprehensive
plan,
as
well
as
the
lust
Street
area
master
plan.
Q
Now,
student
housing
is
not
currently
defined
in
the
city's
Municipal
Code
that
this
is
better
to
find
in
the
new
zoning
code,
rewrite
as
co-housing
per
Municipal
Code
11603.
The
definitions
co-housing
is
a
residential
building
that
contains
five
or
more
individual
sleeping
units
where
each
unit
is
designed
for
occupancy
by
one
or
two
individuals.
Q
Q
These
will
be
rented
out
as
individual
sleeping
units
now
and
also
this
was
is
going
to
be
in
with
the
new
code
rewrites
it's
not
currently
in
the
code
right
now,
so
they
are
trying
to
expedite
this
process
to
get
in
and
get
ahead
of
that
or
else
they
would
be
defined
by
the
co-housing
code.
Q
Furthermore,
in
the
planners
project
reports,
the
technical
memorandum
provided
by
Keller
Associates
for
the
traffic
study
specifically
references,
the
88
units
by
Capitol
Boulevard,
car
22-23
and
the
34
units
on
the
point
Street-
and
this
is
for
the
development
on
cr22-19-
has
student
Apartments.
This
is
in
the
report
presented
to
you
and
it's
also
represented
as
student
housing.
Q
Now
this
is
the
basis
of
the
traffic
study
utilized
by
ite
code,
226,
off-campus
student
Apartments
mid-rise.
Now,
essentially,
what
that
means
is.
This
project
was
always
intended
to
be
student,
housing
or
student
co-housing.
Now,
once
we
brought
up
this
issue
to
them,
they
essentially
are
just
remarketing
what
this
development
is.
So
what
they're
presented
to
you
is
not
what
you
are
going
to
get
now
so
on
this
specifically
in
the
report
you
can
see
in
the
project
report
Pages,
1920
and
21
for
car
22-23
and
Pages
11,
12
and
13
for
cr22-19.
Q
Q
Q
It's
easy
to
see
that
this
is
already
the
predominant
use
of
the
lust
District.
Now
we're
essentially
just
inundating
this
neighborhood
with
one
single
housing
type.
Now
the
presenter
for
CA
Ventures
stated
it's
just
what
the
market
dictates.
We
would
also
like
to
say
that
it's
what
the
marketing
dictates
now
in
our
previous
conversations
with
the
developer,
we
have
quoted
them
as
saying
that
they
will
be
marketing
to
students.
Q
Now,
if
we
get
to
a
breakdown
of
the
numbers,
Within
the
less
District,
it's
a
percentage
of
student
housing
that
currently
exists
in
the
neighborhood
and
what
is
proposed-
we're
currently
sitting
at
a
capacity
of
74
74
of
the
livable
rentable
units
that
are
already
utilized
the
rent
per
bedroom
model.
Q
The
proposals-
and
this
is
both
proposals
by
CA
Ventures.
Today
the
proposals
would
bring
us
to
77
of
the
livable
units
and
the
less
District.
You
can
see
that
these
proposals
served
only
to
intensify
the
problem
foreign
now.
Here's
a
list
of
statutes
from
the
comprehensive
plan
that
the
proposal
violates
the
notable
items
are
the
mixed
use
of
statutes
was
clearly
70
percent
of
one
housing
type
in
a
neighborhood
is
not
a
good
mix
of
use.
Q
Q
The
statute
for
your
housing
choices
is
very
important,
as
we
have
clearly
proven
that
there
is
not
a
variety
of
choices.
You'll
also
see
that
the
traffic
closures
were
designed
within
the
street
right-of-way.
This
was
noted
in
the
Planning
and
Zoning
hearing,
but
as
we
can
see
in
their
plans,
they
are
still
within
the
right-of-way
and
I.
Don't
see
any
indication
that
they
are
looking
to
try
to
change
that.
Even
now
we
are
going
from
the
architect's
plans
to
the
land
groups
plans.
They
are
still
in
the
streets.
Q
Now
some
important
items
from
the
lust
Street
master
plan
that
are
not
adhered
to
in
this
proposal
is
that
the
student
housing
should
not
be
the
sole
form
of
housing
which
will
overwhelm
the
area
with
a
single
demographic
proposal
should
include
densed
mixed-use
development,
including
office,
retail
education
technology
and
urban
housing
uses
and
should
reflect
the
Dignity
of
the
Capital
Boulevard
Corridor
housing
should
promote
diverse
Urban
housing
within
the
neighborhood
that
is
Affordable
to
downtown
workers,
seniors
and
students.
Now
is
our
goal
as
a
neighborhood
association
that
this
is
open
to
everyone,
students
included.
Q
We
want
everyone
to
have
an
opportunity
to
rent
these
units.
Now
we
want
families
to
be
included
with
that.
You
know
professionals
even
affordable
housing
options
as
well.
We
are
not
going
to
any
particular
demographic.
We
want
this
open
to
everyone
and,
as
the
developer
has
stated,
they
are
just
going
to
be
marketing
to
students.
Q
Now
the
land
use
map
on
page
8
should
inform
new
developers
new
development
as
intended.
That
is
page
eight
of
the
of
the
lust
Street
master
plan.
Q
Therefore,
the
entirety
of
the
cr-22-19
should
not
be
allowed,
as
well
as
the
portion
of
the
car
22
I
haven't
written
in
my
notes
is
the
other
one
and
that
is
cr22-23.
Q
Q
So
here
you
can
see
that
are
a
couple
of
pictures
of
kind
of
the
impact
of
The
Pedestrian
spaces.
Now
this
essentially
just
your
basic
design
that
they're
trying
to
do
and
there
it
is
no
interaction
we
are
requesting
the
developers
to
do
is
to
create
more
engagement
with
the
community
and
that
can
bring
more
people
to
the
less
District.
Q
This
right
here
is
just
with
the
tenants
and
it's
kind
of
just
a
standard
dull
areas
that
nobody
else
in
the
city
of
Boise
has
access
to,
except
for
trying
to
park
here
and
go
to
events
at
the
park
and
on
campus
there's
a
few
more
areas.
Q
We
do
note
that
a
lot
of
our
areas
that
front
the
green
belts
are
half
parking
on
there
and
that
917
wasn't
supposed
to
have
any
917
lust
Street.
The
development
that
is
being
built
right
now.
I
was
not
supposed
to
have
any
parking
right
up
to
the
green
belt
as
it's
being
constructed
right
now.
Q
If
you
go
and
look
at
it,
it
does
appear
that
it
is
parking
despite
what
they
are
saying
and
then
also
in
the
plans
presented
to
us
in
the
beginning
shows
the
parking
garage
going
right
up
to
the
Greenbelt,
so
it's
just
kind
of
an
example
of
CA
Ventures
kind
of
not
being
truthful
up
to
what
they
are
providing
now
here's.
What
we'd
like
to
see
on
this
is
a
lot
of
adaptive
reuse
in
the
lust
issue.
We
want
to
keep
a
lot
of
what
is
there
there?
We
can
keep
the
Elmer's
building.
Q
We
can
keep
the
mechanic
shop
on
Lapointe
streets
and
use
those
for
other
uses
as
well
and
also
keeps
the
character
of
it
and
also
promotes
the
small
businesses
in
there
with
adequate
space
that
the
retail
spaces
that
they
are
providing
just
won't
provide.
Q
So
in
conclusion,
The
Proposal
fails
to
provide
a
variety
of
multi-family
housing
by
continuing
a
per
bedroom
model
proposal
identifies
itself
as
student
apartments
and
student
housing,
creating
a
lack
of
housing
option
and
overwhelming
the
neighborhood
with
a
single
housing
type.
Ldna
encourages
development
that
promotes
diversity
as
well
as
opportunities
for
residents
of
a
variety
of
incomes.
Q
This
proposal
violates
multiple
comprehensive,
planned
statutes
that
seek
to
maintain
the
healthy
community
and
smart
growth
reversal
also
violates
multiple
West
Street
master
plan
directives
such
as
a
variety
of
Housing
and
Street
typologies
by
constructing
trash
enclosures
in
the
street.
Right-Of-Way
Rosa
also
fails
to
validate
why
more
student
housing
is
an
improvement
over
the
current
zoning
designation,
and
we
would
hope
that
you
can
find
it
to
turn
down
this
proposal
to
rezone
these
areas.
Thank
you.
B
So
I'm
going
to
move
into
public
testimony,
I
you
signed
up
for
I,
read
off
the
wrong
one.
Are
you
here
to
testify
on
this
one,
oh
great
well
come
on
up
Wards,
okay,.
R
How
close
do
you
want
me
to
stand?
This
will
be
good.
My
name
is
Zach
gray,
2859
East,
Gloucester
Street.
No
six
and
my
uncle
Stewart
talent
is
an
owner
there
with
the
rest
of
my
family
at
Jim's,
Appliance
on
lust
Street,
who
my
grandfather
Jim
opened
up
in
the
Vista
Village
at
least
a
building
in
1960..
He
bought
the
land
and
built
that
building
or
moved
into
that
building
in
71
we've
been
in
that
neighborhood
for
50
years.
R
It's
our
brand,
it's
who
we
are
we're
all
for
development
in
Boise,
it's
our
home.
It's
done
well
for
us,
but
trying
to
be
cognizant
of
what
you're
going
to
do
to
that
area
is
tough.
We
watched
a
lot
of
Apartments
go
up
already
and
had
to
fight
with
the
traffic,
which
has
always
been
a
nightmare
since
71,
so
I've
heard,
and
the
landscape
around
the
town,
as
you
come
down
from
the
depot,
has
changed
from
the
80s,
the
90s.
Oh
a
month
ago.
R
We
we
strive
to
to
support
our
community.
We
really
do
you
know.
Most
of
people
in
here
probably
have
have
been
into
the
store
and
right
above
the
door.
It
does
say,
through
these
doors,
walks
Boise's
best
customers
and
everybody
that
is
there
already
is
pert
near
40
years.
Older
than
I
am
so
they're
they're
getting
tired,
but
I'm
33,
so
I
I
don't
plan
on
going
anywhere
else,
that's
home!
R
M
Then
mayor
I
do
have
a
question
so
business
owner
I,
don't
know
if
you
are
you
involved
in
the
Lester
lust
District
neighborhood
association,
no.
M
So
the
Leicester
District
neighborhood
association
was
just
on
and
they
said
that
one
of
the
challenges
was
just
a
a
kind
of
dominating
type
of
housing
type
right,
that's
kind
of
overwhelmed,
the
neighborhood
and
I
guess
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
how
that,
if
that's,
what
you
feel
as
well
is
that
the
housing
in
general
is
the
student
housing.
Is
it
you.
R
R
We
have
old
customers
that
come
in
and
they
and
they
see
the
new
businesses
downtown
and
they're
able
well
not
with
the
parking
and
not
while
schools
in
session
able
to
walk
down
the
streets,
because
it's
too
busy
and
it's
dangerous,
but
the
the
buildings
alone
going
up
around
us
and
how
closely
knitted
those
are
is,
is
uncomfortable
at
Best
in
that
that
small
environment,
great.
R
M
O
Okay.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
being
a
staple
in
the
community
from
a
business
perspective,
I've
been
in
in
this
in
the
appliance,
store
and
I've
always
appreciated.
You
know
these
businesses
that
that
are
long
term
and
that
they
stay
throughout
Generations.
So
thank
you.
I
I
want
you
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
your
parking
concerns
and
how
that
affects
your
business
and
and
your
interaction
with
customers
and
things
like
that.
Could
you
could
you
give
us
some
more
insight
into
that?
No.
R
I
definitely
can
so.
We
all
have
street
parking
right
and
in
front
of
our
particular
building.
It's
it's
at
a
diagonal
which
which
has
created
concerns,
but
it's
the
easiest
way
for
people
to
come
in
and
out
of
our
store
safely
and
to
get
enough
trucks
in.
We
also
have
our
delivery
trucks
that
are
loading
up
well
nowadays,
on
on
normal
street
side,
because
of
the
a
lot
of
the
growth
and
having
parking
on
either
side
of
the
street
with
limited
sidewalks
is,
has
created
numbers
of
accidents
there.
R
That
will
witness
once
a
week
just
just
because
cars
are
flooded
through
and
I
heard
the
the
housing
there
being
four
four
places
into
one
building
there
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
about
the
the
companies
that
are
building
this,
but
I've
never
met
somebody
that
lives
in
a
place
paying
two
thousand
dollars
a
month
who
didn't
own
a
car
foreign
we'll
know
that'll
be
on
the
street.
B
B
D
Metamere
yep
can
we
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
trash
enclosures
that
came
up
with
the
Lusk
Street
neighborhood
association
and
so
I'd
just
like
to
kind
of
talk
through
some
of
the
thinking
there
and
possible
solutions.
I
Madam
member
council
president
weddings,
the
other.
Unfortunately,
the
two
part
of
the
two
Parcels
do
not
have
alley
access
and
they're,
not
actually
trash,
enclosures,
I,
think
they're
staging
areas
of
what
they're
currently
proposing
and
Public
Works
solid
wastes
already
expressed
concerns
regarding
the
trash
pickup
along
these
sites,
which
is
why
a
specific
condition
was
added
to
the
DA
that
they
have
to
abide
by
all
the
all
the
requirements
and
standards
of
our
Public
Works
Solid
Waste
Department.
I
D
And
then
metamere
Phillip,
just
from
a
process
standpoint
remind
me
David.
If
we
were
to
after
it
goes
to
design
review.
Would
we
then
see
this
again
because
it
has
a
development
agreement
with
it?
Or
would
it
not
come
back
to
us
unless
on
appeal.
I
Madam
mayor
council
president
weddings,
once
the
design
review
makes
a
decision,
then
it
will
be
done.
The
the
designer
or
the
D.A
would
be
decided
tonight
and
will
be
recorded
as
part
of
the
the
rezone.
The
only
reason
it
would
come
back
is
if
it
was
appealed.
I
Madam
mayor
council,
member
Beijing,
the
a
trash
enclosure
is
an
actual
like
a
cinder
block,
enclosure
or
structure
that
the
that
the
my
understanding
that
the
the
trash
container
would
be
located
in
the
the
staging
areas.
My
understanding
is
that
the
actually
the
the
containers
should
be
held
inside
within
a
trash
room
inside
the
building
in
the
parking
garage
and
then
during
crash
pickup.
I
L
That's
the
difference
that
makes
sense.
Thank
you
and.
M
Mary
I'm
going
to
try
to
ask
this
question,
and
hopefully
it
makes
sense.
I
brought
up
a
question
earlier
about
multi-family
parking
reductions
and
I'm
wondering
if
Our
intention
behind
parking
reduction
is
for
multi-family
has
to
do
with
the
hope
and
idea
that
these
could
be
one
car
households.
I
Madame,
mayor
Council,
protem,
Holly,
Burton,
I
I
think
as
far
as
the
the
the
the
parking
reductions
that
are
granted
through
our
multi-living
youth
standards,
those
are
as
as
the
applicant
stated,
are
based
on
site
location
next
to
Transit,
if
it's
a
multi
or
if
it's
a
mixed
use
project,
if
they're
providing
Podium
parking
things
of
that
nature,
that's
how
you
qualify
for
them,
I!
I
Think
more
of
the
trying
to
get
into
what
you're
saying
is
the
actual
allocation,
so
where
we
call
out
for
a
three
bedroom
plus
apartment
you
you're,
allowed
1.5
parking
spaces
or
for
a
studio
you
required
one
or
like
slightly
less
than
a
parking
space
and
in
those
cases,
I
think
we're
actually
looking
at
who's
actually
using
it.
The
actual
parking
allocation
built
into
our
parking
code,
not
necessarily
the
reduction.
I
M
That's
super
helpful
and
then
Madam
mayor,
one
more
question.
This
was
brought
up
by
the
lust
District
neighborhood
association,
and
it
was
talking
about
our
future
zoning
code
in
the
possible
edition
of
a
what
do.
They
call
it.
A
co-housing,
Zone
and
I
hadn't
heard
of
that
before
I.
Don't
know,
if
that's
something
that
we
are
planning
on
doing,
if
that's
something
that
that
this
would
fall
into
in
a
future
code,
mademer.
I
Council
Pro
tem
Haliburton
our
zoning
code,
rewrite
in
the
draft
proposal.
Now
we
do
have
that
as
a
definition,
the
co-housing
as
described,
although
that
could
change
it's
still
very
much.
A
draft
form
but
and
I
believe
that
land
use
is
is
called
out
now
in
the
use
or
is,
is
proposed
in
the
use
tables
under
the
code
rewrite.
But
our
current
code
doesn't
have
it,
but
it's
still
very
much
a
draft
and
I
don't
know
if
it
will
stay
or
not.
M
Yeah
Madam
mayor
just
to
follow
up
there
one
more
time,
so
the
the
type
of
housing
that
they're
proposing
here,
where
it's
rented
out
per
room,
would
this
be
considered
that
type
of
a
co-housing
in
our
current
draft.
I
Madame
mayor
Council,
Pro,
tem,
Haliburton
I
I'd
have
to
re-read
the
definition
again
of
the
the
zoning
code
rewrite
on
what
on
how
they
Define
or
how
it's
proposing
to
Define
co-housing.
I
I
honestly,
don't
know
the
answer.
Unless
I
take
a
look
at
the
the
new
zoning
code
and,
what's
being
proposed.
K
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
just
a
few
comments.
The
I
think
the
the
solid
waste
placement
has
been
addressed.
That
has
been
moved
since
the
original
site
plans,
probably
that
the
commenter
was
noting
through
work
with
solid
waste
into
the
staging
area
that
was
described
by
staff,
and
so
that
will
be
compliant
with
how
unsolid
waste
wants
that
to
appear
and
will
minimize
impacts
to
the
streetscape.
K
We,
we
will
have
also
a
large
public
art
piece
on
Lois
at
the
street
level
on
the
interior
side
of
Building
B.
There
was
a
comment
from
Nate
about
the
the
view
of
that
building
and
the
facade
of
that
building
again
that'll
be
addressed
at
design
review,
but
wanted
to
note
that
for
you
one
an
additional
comment
on
the
parking.
K
This
is
an
area,
that's
in
the
flood
plain,
and
so
it
is
limited
where
you
can't
go
down,
which
sometimes
is
a
way
that
you
can
increase
parking
when
you've
got
these
smaller
Footprints.
But
this
area
is
particularly
constrained
because
we
can't
go
down,
and
so
it
does
limit
that
parking
to
that
main
floor.
K
There
were
some
comments
about
the
marketing
and
the
leasing,
and
so
CA
Ventures
does
not
Target
only
students
for
their
marketing
I
mean
they
truly
would
like
to
fill
the
building
with
tenants.
They,
you
know
they
they
have
the
as
long
as
somebody's
renting
the
building
they've
served
a
purpose
of
successful
marketing
and
filling
the
building.
It
doesn't
benefit
them
to
Target
students
versus
non-students,
their
ads
are
placed
in
apartments.com
and
Zillow
multi-family
platforms.
Generally,
they
have
a
website
and
leasing
office
that
it
welcomes.
K
Anyone
in
and
again
is
targeting
the
general
multi-family
platform
to
bring
in
tenants.
They
are
providing
a
variety
of
housing
that
is
unique
in
this
area,
and
so
it
it
may
well
entice
people
that
want
to
live
in
this
area
that
are
not
only
students.
In
the
meantime,
there
does
remain
significant
demand
for
student,
housing
and
I.
Think
that's
why
BSU
was
supportive
of
this
proposal
in
this
location.
At
this
time
we
do
comply
with
the
lustrate
master
plans.
K
We
walk
through
each
of
those
categories,
whether
it's
the
design
standards,
the
streetscape
we
are
compliant
with
the
streetscape
typology.
That's
in
there
doesn't
mean
we
can't
take
comments
on
how
you
know
opportunities,
but
we
are
compliant
with
it.
We
are
compliant
with
the
transportation
plan,
with
the
parking
plan,
and
so
all
the
different
categories
within
the
Le
Street
Master
district
and
providing
by
providing
that
the
the
dense
housing
up
above
we
are
filling
a
housing
need
not
only
for
the
students,
but
housing
need
in
general,
in
downtown
Boise
and
in
the
Boise
area.
K
This
will
support
the
businesses
in
the
area.
We
hope
that
they
bring
additional
consumers
to
the
businesses
in
the
area
and
really
help
round
out
the
the
neighborhood
and
by
contributing
our
own
commercial
space
and
Street
Front
improvements.
We
hope
that
we'll
also
add
to
the
vibrancy
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
safety
for
that
with
that
would
just
stand
for
any
additional
questions.
J
Had
a
mirror
yes,
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion.
I
would
move
that.
We
approve
car
22-23,
bde
architecture,
1385,
South,
Capitol,
Boulevard,
rezone
of
1.76
Acres
from
C2
DC
to
r3dc
multifamily,
with
special
and
rodcda.
S
J
Thank
you,
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
concern
in
the
Lost
District
that
there's
too
much
student
housing
that
the
design
standards
haven't
been
as
highly
looked
at
as
they
should
have
that
there
is
too
many
cars
to
be
honest.
I
I've
always
had
the
philosophy
that
more
housing
is,
is
good,
and
it's
interesting
that
we
tell
many
single-family
neighborhoods
that
we
can't
control
whether
a
building
is
owned
or
occupied
or
not
owner-occupied,
not
sure
that.
J
Similarly,
we
can
tell
a
developer
that
the
multi-family
building
they're
going
to
build,
has
to
be
marketed
a
certain
way.
What
I
do
know
is
that,
once
that
building
is
there,
we
then
have
housing
stock
that
can
adapt
over
time,
if
need
be,
but
from
the
beginning
accommodate
a
number
of
residents
that
today
probably
can't
find
a
place,
especially
in
an
area
like
this.
J
Our
codes
do
support.
This
I
have
a
little
bit
of
concern.
Moving
from
retail
to
multi-family
on
the
one
portion
of
the
site.
However,
again
I
think
that.
C
J
District
in
general
already
has
a
fair
amount
of
commercial
and
mixed
use,
and
this
one
site
is
not
going
to
overwhelm
that
so
I
will
be
I.
Do
support
getting
more
housing
built.
I.
Do
think
that,
while
this
is
a
perfect
development,
it
certainly
begin
it
begins
to
move
more
toward
that
in
this
area,
where
we
need
it
so
badly.
D
Madam
mayor
I
was
really
reticent
to
make
emotion
on
this
because
I'm
struggling
with
it
a
lot.
The
infrastructure
in
the
last
district
has
not
kept
up
with
what
it
needs
to
be,
and
we
heard
from
current
business
a
current
business
owner
in
the
neighborhood
who's.
You
know
been
part
of
that.
It's
been
underserved
for
a
number
of
years,
there's
not
say
pedestrian
facilities
in
the
neighborhood.
D
It's
overrun
with
cars
and
we've
added
significant
development
to
it
just
over
the
past
year
and
so
I
struggle,
because
I
think
that
there
are
plans
to
improve
the
less
District.
It's
in
an
urban
renewal,
District
part
of
ccdc's
Shoreline
plan,
I
think
that
that
will
catch
up.
But
right
now
we're
in
this
kind
of
chicken
and
egg
scenario
where
the
infrastructure
is
terrible.
There's
no
structured
parking
I,
don't
want
to
add
more
and
more
parking,
but
also
I.
D
So
I
feel
really
torn
on
this
one,
because
there
is
significant
development
already
going
in,
there's
been
a
lot
that
has
been
stood
up
over
just
the
past
several
years.
There
are
plans
to
improve
existing
infrastructure,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
adding
more
dense,
student-focused
housing
to
this
area
is
gonna,
help
and
I
think
it
might
need
a
little
breather
but
I'm
interested
in
hearing
from
my
fellow
council
members.
M
Men,
mayor
I,
can
jump
in
there
I
think
I'm
in
a
similar
spot,
I'm
really
trying
hard
to
figure
out
how
to
approve
this
and
to
support
the
motion,
because
I
think
that
Ro
could
be
the
right
Zone
if
you
were
really
trying
to
get
families
or
different
type
of
demographic
in
the
neighborhood.
And
here's
where
it's
this.
Here's
like
what's
really
hard
for
me,
is
that
we're
going
to
potentially
approve
this
and
then
right
after
this
is
another
agenda
item
and
it's
the
exact
same.
You
see
it's
exactly
the
same.
M
It's
the
same
developer,
and
so
if
there
was
a
third
one
and
a
fourth
one
like
at
what
point?
M
Do
you
say
that,
like
we've
reached
that
point
where
we
are
crossing
the
line
of
what
the
lust
District
master
plan
has
told
us
not
to
do
to
not
overwhelm
the
area
with
a
certain
amount
of
housing
type,
currently
I
helped
write
the
less
District
Master
Plan,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
it
and
also
operate
a
business
in
the
area
a
non-profit
and
what
happens
now
are
the
students
because
there
isn't
places
for
them
to
park,
they
actually
pay.
M
M
M
Don't
think
it's
accurate
to
say
that
this
isn't
designed
for
student
housing,
it's
being
designed
to
be
rented
out
per
room
and
if
it
were
not
being
rented
out
per
room,
if
it
really
were
being
designed
or
marketed
towards
family
or
a
different
type
of
housing
type,
then
you
wouldn't
be
worried
about
the
parking,
because
you
would
be
trying
to
find
you
know
tenants
that
would
be
one
car
houses,
not
four
car
I
think
that
I
can
go
through
and
I
have
to
make
decisions
that
are
based
off
of
code,
and
so
you
have
to
look
and
see.
M
You
know
the
impacts
that
it
will
have
to
the
neighborhood
and
I
think
that
you
can
look
through,
and
you
could
say
that
these
do
not
meet
the
criteria
if
it's
designed
for
this
type
of
housing.
But
I
still
think
that
Ro
is
the
correct
Zoning
for
here,
because
I
think
it
needs
to
be
that
dense
with
housing.
And
that's
that's
where
I'm
struggling
the
most.
L
And
a
mayor
there's
a
third
thing:
I
want
to
talk
about,
but
later
I
want
to
focus
on
this
this
part
first,
so
hopefully
we
can
Circle
back
after
we've
moved
past.
This
part
of
the
discussion.
L
That
Boise
state
is
a
little
behind
on
providing
for
student
housing,
and
so
we
carry
neighborhoods
around
there
carry
the
burden
of
that
market
and
efficiency
and
I.
Take
the
applicant's
point
to
be
correct,
which
is
we're
going
to
build
something
and
it's
going
to
get
filled
up
with
the
people
who
most
want
to
be
there
and
for
that
neighborhood.
The
people
who
most
want
to
live.
There
are
students
because
of
where
it
is.
L
There
are
things
we
could
do
to
try
to
nudge
that
or
move
that
in
another
Direction,
make
it
more
desirable
to
families
or
to
Young
professionals
who
work
downtown,
but
we're
going
to
be
doing
it
in
opposition
to
that
giant.
Economic
Market
fact,
which
is
that
Boise
State,
brings
a
whole
bunch
of
students
to
that
area
of
town
and
there's
not
enough
place
for
them
to
live
within
Boise
State's
facilities,
and
you
know
for
a
couple
years.
We
talked
about
how
we
need
to
coordinate
work
more
closely
with
that.
But
but
that's
the
that's.
C
L
And
so
the
council
Pro
tem
Hallie
Burton's
comment.
Aura
was
the
correct
Zone,
but
student
housing
isn't
the
correct
use
I
think
really
highlights
the
problem
like
Ro
is
the
correct
zone
for
what
we
want
there,
but
this
type
of
use
that
the
market
is
just
going
to
press
in
on
it
because
of
the
nature
of
the
people
who
need
to
live
close
to
campus,
like
what
do
we
do
with
that?
L
That's
the
problem
and
I
pointed
out
not
to
say
here's
what
we
do
in
this
application,
but,
more
broadly
like
we
got
to
sort
that
out,
because
the
next
one,
the
fourth
one,
the
fifth
one,
the
sixth
one-
will
come
I'm
likely
to
vote
to
approve
the
application,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
can
plan
and
hope
and
wish.
But
the
college
kids
need
a
place
to
live.
Maybe
it'll
turn
out
to
be
that
that
families
do
want
to
a
la
carte
rent
four
units
and
stay
there.
O
Mayor,
yes,
go
ahead:
yeah,
I,
I
think
this
is
a
really
healthy
discussion
and
I
Echo.
A
lot
of
what
my
fellow
city,
council,
men
and
women
have
said.
A
couple
of
thoughts.
I
do
think
that
this
will
be
student
housing
just
based
on
the
rental
model,
and
for
for
many
of
the
reasons
that
other
council
members
have
brought
up.
I,
don't
think
you're
gonna
have
families
that
are
going
to
rent
a
la
carte
rooms.
I
would
love
to
see
more
family
housing
downtown,
but
I
also
understand.
There's
a
need.
O
I
had
a
daughter
who
went
to
Boise
State
and
she
walked
everywhere.
She
could,
but
she
also
had
a
car,
and
so
this
will
have
an
impact
when
it
comes
to
parking.
It
will
have
an
impact
when
it
comes
to.
You
know:
business
and
residence
trying
to
find
a
place
to
park,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
density.
It's
right
where
it
needs
to
be.
O
We
need
to
have
higher
density
downtown,
it's
it's
more
built,
it's
built
for
it
better
than
other
areas
of
the
city,
which
is
why
I
seconded
the
motion,
if
there's
a
better
way
to
get
an
outcome
here,
I'm
open
but
I
feel
like
they've
ticked,
the
mark
when
it
comes
to
the
applicant.
Even
if
I
would
like
to
see
something
different
I
think
the
market
demands
more
housing
for
Boise
State
students,
foreign.
L
Different
topic
I
want
to
talk
briefly
about
the
parking
minimum
issue,
because
this
is
I
think
not
specific
to
this
application.
But
it's
going
to
be
important
for
all
of
us
to
think
about.
As
we
go
into
the
zoning
code
rewrite
we
create
these
automatic
parking
reductions
and
we
make
them
automatic
so
that
we
don't
have
to
spend
time
on
each
and
every
application,
so
we're
getting
efficiency
from
that.
The
cost
of
that
is
that
they
don't
fit
every
application
perfectly
and
I'm
flagging
that
that
seems
to
be
true
here.
L
This
qualifies
for
the
parking
reduction,
even
though
the
likely
use
probably
everybody's,
going
to
have
a
car.
That
is
the
cost
of
the
efficiency
that
we're
buying
in
other
places
and
I.
Think
that's
the
advantage
of
rules
over
standards.
But
it's
something
that
we
should
all
be
thinking
about.
As
we
look
to
the
proposed
rewrite
of
the
zoning
code
in
the
coming
months,
because
this
application
really
draws
out
that
tension
we're
going
to
have
places
where
it
doesn't
fit,
but
the
benefit
that
we
get
from
the
automatic
rule
overall
is
still
better.
J
Had
a
mirror
I'd
like
to
talk
about
that
briefly
too,
because
the
parking
does
bother
me
not
particularly
this
development,
but
all
of
it
that's
happening
down
there
and
I
think
we've.
J
We
should
be
looking
at
that
in
the
zoning
code-
rewrite
not
just
the
whether
or
not
we
do
the
reductions,
but
if
we
do
the
reductions,
what
are
the
other
things
we're
going
to
do
to
ensure
that
those
reductions
work
the
way
they
should?
They
should
be
accompanied
by
parking
districts
where
we
control
the
on-street
parking.
We
do
want
on-street
parking,
but
we
don't
want
the
on-street
parking
utilized
by
the
residents.
That's
not
the
purpose
of
it
and
I
have.
As
many
of
you
know,
I
have
five
kids.
J
They
all
went
away
to
college,
none
of
them
had
a
car
except
one
who
went
to
a
very
Suburban
place.
All
of
the
rest
of
them
went
through
their
whole
College
years
without
a
car
there.
There
are
ways
to
encourage
kids
not
to
have
cars.
There's
no
need,
frankly,
to
have
a
car
in
that
particular
location
form
most
of
your
day
for
most
of
your
uses,
but
without
robust
car
sharing
or
Transit,
we
do
have
robust
transit
in
this
particular
case.
It
makes
it
harder.
J
A
B
I
The
reason
application
is
a
request
to
construct
a
six-story
building
containing
34
dwelling
units
and
1
200
square
feet
of
commercial.
On
the
ground
floor.
To
ensure
active
use
is
along
the
street
Frontage
and
the
design
standards
lust.
Street
master
plan
have
the
idea.
Da
has
been
included
with
the
rezone,
including
these
conditions
here,
they're
very
similar
to
the
conditions
you
saw
in
the
last
application.
I
The
neighborhood
association
and
several
members
of
the
public
have
expressed
concerns
of
the
project
in
terms
of
compatibility
and
compliance
with
the
Lost
Street
master
plan.
Compatibility
concerns
are
in
response
to
the
size
and
mass
of
the
building
and
to
address
this
I
would
note
the
comprehensive
plan
once
again
anticipates
high
density.
More
intensive
uses
in
this
area,
given
its
location.
I
Other
concerns
is
that
the
project
does
not
provide
enough
Street
or
front
enough
storefront
commercial,
and
that,
once
again,
it
is
a
student
housing
project.
As
such
I
would
note
that
the
da
does
require
minimum
of
40
percent
of
the
street
front,
be
comprised
of
active
uses
and
it
will
include
ground
ground,
floor
commercial
space
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
55
active
uses
for
this
project,
and
also
the
project
is
comprised
of
a
mix
of
apartment
types
again:
apartment
types
again,
ranging
from
Studios
to
five
bedroom
units.
I
K
K
We
appreciate
playing
staff
support
on
this
application
as
well.
The
project
design
has
evolved
from
the
beginning
and
reflects
the
feedback
from
many
discussions
with
the
city
and
with
neighbors
Planning
and
Zoning
approved
this
project
unanimously,
and
we
agree
with
all
of
the
conditions
of
that
approval.
As
David
explained,
we
are
seeking
a
rezone
here
to
ro
to
allow
the
development
of
a
mixed-use
building
with
34
multi-family
units
above
ground
floor,
commercial
and
amenity
space
and
Alley
access
to
Podium
parking.
The
surrounding
area
includes
multi-family
housing
and
Commercial
uses.
K
K
K
These
are
the
current
site
conditions
here,
I'm
currently
located
there
as
an
auto
mechanics
business
and
a
gravel
parking
lot.
There
are
no
Street
Front
improvements
at
this
time,
no
Street
drainage
or
sidewalk.
It
is
an
underutilized
parcel
in
a
redeveloping
neighborhood
with
access
to
Transit,
that
is
poised
for
increased
housing
density
and
walkable
commercial.
K
The
project
will
provide
vertical,
curb
Gutter
and
a
12
foot
wide
landscape
and
Furnishing
Zone,
including
tree
graded
trees
tree
graded
trees
along
Street,
grated
trees.
Excuse
me
along
the
point
and
Sherwood
streets
in
alignment
with
the
designated
streetscape
typology
in
the
lustrate
master
plan.
The
frontage
improvements
include
an
elevated
patio
with
seating
to
serve
the
neighborhood
and
public
gathering
space,
provide
outdoor
seating
for
the
retail
use
and
to
activate
the
building
Frontage
along
the
point
and
Sherwood
streets.
K
Achg
has
approved
of
the
sidewalk
design,
improvements
on
both
Sherwood
and
the
point,
as
well
as
the
bulb
out
on
the
point
street
at
the
intersection
with
Sherwood
achg
has
also
approved
the
alley
design.
We
agree
with
all
of
the
conditions
of
achg's
report
approving
the
project
design.
The
project
will
add
nine
on-street
parking
spaces
plus
three
parallel
parking
spaces
are
added
along
the
alley
inside
the
project
property
that
can
also
serve
the
retail
use.
K
Residential
parking
is
in
the
garage
hidden
from
View
and
accommodated
in
this
small
space
with
modern,
automated
stackers
on
the
upper
floors.
The
project
includes
34
multi-family
units.
This
slide
shows
the
floor
plan
of
the
second
floor,
which
includes
an
indoor
Club
room
that
opens
up
onto
a
large
exterior
Courtyard
with
a
lounge
area,
grilling
fire
pit
and
Spa.
This
Courtyard
further
activates
the
building's
La
Pointe
Street
Frontage,
like
the
capital
project
that
we
just
discussed
in
Sea,
Adventures
917
Lusk
project.
K
The
34
Apartments
here
will
include
a
mix
of
Studio
one
bedroom
and
two
bedroom,
as
well
as
four
and
five
bedroom
units.
The
larger
format
units
traditionally
are
sought
out
by
students.
They
also
would
serve
the
need
of
the
four
bedroom
apartment
shortage
serving
families.
They
remain
overall,
the
most
in-demand
housing
in
the
neighborhood
and
in
all
the
areas
around
BSU
and
downtown.
K
As
was
discussed
at
the
last
hearing,
BSU
students
remain
underserved
from
on-site
and
off-site
housing
options.
Sea
adventurers
met
with
BSU
about
this
project,
and
BSU
was
supportive,
as
was
discussed
at
the
last
hearing.
Bsu
is
behind
on
providing
their
own
student
housing
to
meet
student
housing
needs.
However,
they
have
made
plans
and
obtained
permits
from
the
city
to
for
conditional
use
permits
to
have
height
exceptions,
to
build
housing,
and
so
as
that
evolves
as
they
provide
more
on-campus
housing.
They
can't
the
off-campus
housing
will
be
freed
up
for
more
multi-family
General
use.
K
The
project
is
unique
from
a
housing
that
is
was
developed
early
in
this
neighborhood,
based
on
that
mix
of
housing
types.
That's
provided
because
it's
not
all
large
format
units
and
because
it
includes
ground
floor
retail
and
enhanced
streetscape
presence
with
storefront
activation
consistent
with
the
less
master
plan.
K
Save
interest.
917
lust
project
was
the
first
housing
development
in
the
neighborhood
to
include
ground
floor
retail
was
followed
by
Dave
Wally's
project
and
the
project
just
approved
in
capital
on
a
per
acre
basis.
This
project
is
providing
twice
the
commercial
square
footage
compared
to
the
approved
917
Lusk
project.
K
K
The
slide
illustrates
several
of
the
unique
design
features
of
the
building,
including
that
metal
accents
the
gray,
brick,
the
decorative
concrete,
the
fiber
cement
siding
the
plaster
all
really
helping
to
make
the
design
elements
pop,
and
this
will,
of
course
be
vetted
through
the
design,
Review
Committee,
but
we
share
it
just
to
really
show
how
the
street
level
is
defined
as
a
solid,
distinct
base.
Enhancing
that
pedestrian-oriented
experience.
K
This
project
has
been
designed
to
closely
align
with
the
lust
Street
master
plan.
It
fulfills
a
number
of
goals
in
the
plan
in
the
land
use
section
by
developing
a
walkable,
Urban
neighborhood,
minimizing
surface
parking,
mixing,
complementary
uses
and
weaving
the
urban
fabric
together
with
pedestrian
connectivity.
K
The
retail
and
streetscape
activation
promotes
the
area
as
an
active,
24-hour
District
of
the
downtown
core.
The
plan
notes
that
this
block
in
particular,
is
intended
as
a
just
off
Main
Street
retail
district
with
unique
and
Studio
uses
with
upper
story
housing
consistent
with
the
plan.
The
project
delivers
that
ground
floor
retail
and
active
amenity
spaces
with
outdoor
active
streetscape
improvements,
as
well
as
the
Upper
Floor
housing.
K
The
project
is
also
aligned
with
the
urban
Foreman
design
section
of
the
lust
Street
plan
highlighted
here.
The
point
Street's
current
residential
density,
west
side,
Sidewalk
improvements
and
Commercial
uses
have
created
an
engaging
streetscape
with
people-oriented
uses.
With
this
project,
Sea
Of
Interest
adds
to
that
landscape
with
ground
floor
activation,
elevated
public
patio
and
contributing
more
Frontage
to
the
plans,
pedestrian-oriented
just
off
Main
Street
concept,
as
called
for
on
the
lust
Street
plan.
The
development
is
on
a
traditional
lot
size
rather
than
a
super
block,
creating
a
more
intimate
Community
environment.
K
K
The
project
aligns
with
the
transportation
portion
of
the
lust
Street
master
plan.
It
preserves
on-street
parking
by
creating
the
nine
public
parking
spots
on
the
street.
It
uses
the
alley
for
garage
parking
access.
It
provides
an
enhanced
pedestrian
environment
with
the
wide
sidewalks
shade
patio
style,
seating,
the
street
trees,
Street
Furnishing
and
parallel
parking
all
improvements
from
what
is
there
currently
and
to
an
important
Street
in
the
Lost
District.
K
At
the
previous
hearing,
the
neighborhood
association
expressed
concerns
about
students
walking
on
the
street.
This
was
at
the
commission
hearing
for
this
project
and
the
good
news
is
that
these
streetscape
improvements
will
add
to
that
pedestrian
safety
of
the
neighborhood
overall
and
I.
Think
really
getting
to
the
council
president's
comments
in
the
last
hearing
too
about
needed
infrastructure.
As
these
projects
come
in,
they
are
providing
this
at
least
the
infrastructure
that
enhances
that
pedestrian
connectivity
and
here
onto
a
corner
and
two
major
streets.
K
The
project
streetscape
does
align
with
street
typology
number
three
in
the
lustrate
plan
that
is
called
for
in
this
location,
which
calls
for
wide
sidewalks
Street
trees,
parallel
parking
and
outdoor
seating
to
create
an
engaging
neighborhood
feel.
The
plan
calls
for
the
streetscapes
to
be
36
feet
wide,
with
a
12
foot,
wide
landscape
and
Furnishing
zone.
That
includes
the
tree,
Wells
lighting
and
other
Street
Furnishing
in
an
urban
environment,
and
this
project
will
match
that
typology.
K
It
also
places
housing
density
adjacent
to
transit
in
a
walkable
bikeable
area,
minimizing
the
parking
that's
needed
to
the
greatest
extent
possible
and
the
project
converts.
What
was
a
surface
parking
lot
adjacent
to
an
underutilized
parcel
into
a
mixed-use
urban
building
form
that
will
promote
Vitality
in
the
neighborhood.
All
is
called
for
in
the
plan.
C
K
K
J
Hi
mayor,
thank
you
thanks
Deb
in
the
staff
report.
It
notes
well
in
the
conditions
that
40
minimum
of
40
of
the
total
Frontage
of
the
project
shall
consist
of
active
uses
which
include
the
lobby
area
and
amenity
spaces
and
I.
Guess
my
and
then,
as
I
read
the
lust
District
plan.
Even
though
this
is
Lapointe.
So
it's
not
the
main
street,
but
it's
the
off
Main
Street.
It
says
that
the
emphasis
should
be
on
transparent,
storefronts,
outdoor
dining
and
eclectic
and
Niche
retail
markets.
J
I
find
40
percent
not
to
be
an
emphasis,
especially
if
it
includes
the
lobby
and
the
amenities.
So
I
wonder
if
you
could
and
then
I
look
at
the
plan
and
I
see
that
the
lobby
really
is
the
main
corner,
and
so
in
fact
it's
not
emphasizing
the
retail
aspect
of
this.
It's
kind
of
tucked
in
the
middle
of
the
building,
I
wonder
if
you
could
address
that.
K
Madam
mayor
councilmember
Clegg,
yes,
so
the
the
retail
space
here
was
significantly
expanded
through
the
staff's
input
to
create
this
1200
square
foot
space,
and
it
was
placed
along
the
point
Street
based
on
the
desire
for
that
straight,
calling
out
specifically
that
that
street
was
desired
for
the
the
retail
the
studio
uses
and
the
lobby
and
amenity
on
the
corner
does
provide
an
opportunity
to
at
least
provide
the
storefront
glazing,
and
so
it
activates
the
feel
of
the
street.
K
Even
if
you
don't
have
members
of
the
public
other
than
the
residence
that
would
be
going
in
out
of
the
the
the
facility.
You
still
have
that
interaction.
That's
where
the
coffee
room
is
that's
where
the
office
space
is
is
where
the
the
package
room
is,
and
so
it
is
very
activated
from
an
in
and
out
and
then
from
an
architectural
standpoint.
Having
that
storefront
glazing
does
create
that
feel
of
the
streetscape.
K
The
the
bike
amenity
is
actually
the
same
way,
and
so
with
the
exterior
and
Trends
on
the
bike
amenity
you're,
creating
that
the
The
Pedestrian
access
and
feel
of
the
building.
So.
K
Madame,
mayor
council,
member
Clegg,
I,
I,
guess
I'm
not
putting
a
value
judgment
on
which
is
more
valuable,
I
think
from
the
exterior
they're,
equally
valuable
from
this
from
the
architectural
standpoint
and
from
the
activation
of
having
access
the
retail
is
a
large
space
that
would
especially
for
this
size
of
building
that
did
require
again
going
to
the
the
stacker
system
to
accommodate
it,
but
the
developer
was
able
to
do
that.
So
it
is
a
large
space.
1200
square
feet
will
for
this.
Small
building
in
this
space
is
significant.
K
The
frontage
here
is
significantly
more
than
the
40
too.
You
note
that
that's
the
minimum
in
the
D.A,
but
what's
actually
provided
here,
is
55
with
with
that
glazing,
and
so
it's
we
hope
that
the
retail
provides
that
Public
Access,
as
well
as
the
streetscape
improvements
on
the
exterior
here.
There's
a
public
amenity,
that's
built
into
this
12
foot,
wide
streetscape
with
the
seating
and
the
raised
patio,
but
also
will
attract.
We
hope,
members
of
the
community
and
public
to
enjoy
the
space
and
continue
to
activate
it.
Q
Q
The
Madame
mayor
and
council
members
time
and
not
give
the
same
presentation,
I,
believe
I'll,
just
maybe
States
the
views
of
some
students
that
actually
do
live
in
the
lust
District
was
able
to
speak
to
18
students
who
do
live
there
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
did
mention
actually
about
nine
of
those
18
students
mentioned
that
the
less
District
reminds
them
of
Eagle
Road.
Q
Eagle
Road
was
a
two-lane
road
now
I
do
believe
that
those
city
planners
and
council
members
who
made
the
decisions
of
what
makeup
Eagle
Road
now
probably
do
have
some
regrets
and
those
students
who
do
know
of
Eagle
Road
that
do
live
in
the
less
districts
equate
the
Lost
District
to
that
so
City
Planning
is
not
a
Sprint
and
I
feels
like
this
is
the
process
that
we're
going
through
right
now
we
are
just
pushing
things
along
and
only
to
have
regrets
later.
Q
A
few
of
the
things
I
am
confused
by
is
how
glass
activates
anything
it
that
doesn't
make
sense
and
as
well
as
the
storefront,
on
the
point
side
being
up
on
a
platform
further
deactivates
the
street
side,
so
I
just
heard
a
lot
of
Bluster
abouts
and
with
kind
of
a
bunch
of
buzzwords
that
mean
nothing
and
so
I
think
they're,
just
kind
of
trying
to
paint
a
box
into
a
pretty
color
with
that
I'll
leave
the
rest
of
the
debates
and
I'm
running
out
of
power
on
my
laptop
anyways.
Q
So
thank
you,
council
members
and
Madam
mayor
I
appreciate
the
time.
B
T
J
story:
104
South,
Capitol,
Boulevard
good
evening,
Madam,
mayor
and
city
council
members
to
get
to
the
question
that
came
up
in
the
last
hearing
of
Council
Pro
Tim
halliburton's
question
of
where
do
we
draw
the
line?
This
is
where
we
draw
the
line
for
the
record.
I've
been
actively
involved
in
the
neighborhood
and
it's
Redevelopment
for
close
to
10
years,
and
this
is
the
first
Development
I've
shown
up
and
opposed.
T
Although
the
application
before
you
may
seem
similar
to
many
you've
seen
in
the
past,
this
one
is
different
in
one
key
aspect:
it
lies
in
the
middle
two
blocks
of
the
lust
District,
which
is
the
heart
and
soul
of
the
neighborhood.
These
two
blocks
are
home
to
diverse
businesses
like
the
Boise
bicycle
project,
Madre
Taqueria,
Dawson,
Taylor,
Jim's,
Appliance,
Lost,
Grove,
Brewing,
trademark
design,
downtown
Hound,
amongst
others.
T
T
The
developer
has
plans
for
1200
square
feet
of
retail,
which
isn't
enough
to
activate
the
street,
like
the
neighborhood
plan
anticipates
to
comply
with
the
neighborhood
plan
and
comprehensive
plan.
The
developer
needs
to
one
activate
the
street
Frontage
in
a
meaningful
way
and
comply
with
storefront
Main
Street.
The
current
plan
of
1200
square
feet
is
just
not
sufficient.
T
Two
comply
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
offer
a
more
diverse
set
of
housing
options
with
the
less
within
the
less
neighborhood
right
now.
The
proposal
anticipates
small
and
large
format
options,
but
when
you
run
the
numbers,
81
percent
of
the
rooms
are
large
format:
option
which
is
strictly
student,
housing
spin
it
how
they
like
it.
We
need
more
diverse
housing
options
in
this
neighborhood
three.
T
D
Jay
I
I
appreciate
that
I
have
a
question
about
because,
as
I
as
I
envisioned
the
less
District,
you
know
you
have
Lusk
and
you
have
the
point.
Both
of
those
are
low-rise
kind
of
old
Warehouse
commercial
that
have
been
beneficially
reused
into
a
variety
of
businesses.
As
you
said,
where
do
you
think
there's
what
I
mean
if
there
were
a
development
that
went
in
that
was
both
Main
Street
and
had
housing,
which
is
also
contemplated
in
the
comprehensive
plan?
What
would
that
look
like.
T
It
would
be
more
unique,
it
would
be
lower,
as
you
indicate
the
C2
zoning
that
they
currently
have
allows
for
a
density
of
43.5
units
per
acre,
which
is
sufficient
for
these
two
blocks.
You
could
still
get
a
mix
of
retail
and
housing,
but
here
they're,
throwing
in
just
1200
square
foot
of
retail,
which
quite
honestly,
isn't
going
to
be
sufficient
for
any
retailer
to
activate
anything.
A
couple
of
the
restaurants
that
I
redeveloped.
T
We
had
a
really
hard
time
with
2500
square
feet,
making
that
work
and
be
substantial
enough
if
they
wanted
to
double
their
retail
space.
At
least
there's
unique
ways
to
do
it
right
now:
they're
just
trying
to
maximize
the
housing
density
and
minimize
what
they
need
to
do
on
the
street
level,
which
is
not
what
these
two
blocks
need.
We
need
to
maximize
the
street
level
and
then
potentially
throw
in
a
little
bit
of
housing
on
top.
B
M
Okay
and
the
previous
application,
what
what
did
we
have
it?
Zoned
as.
M
D
Madam
mayor,
yes,
this
might
be
a
question
for
David
David
I'm
I'm,
having
a
little
bit
of
reservation
with
this
raised
platform,
Street
Frontage
treatment.
Can
you
talk
about
where
we've
used
that
before,
if
that
is
kind
of
best
practice
for
a
neighborhood
commercial
type,
development
Madam.
I
D
K
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
I'm,
not
sure
if
your
mic
is
on,
is
that
better
yeah
I
think.
The
discussion
that
we
had
last
for
the
last
hearing
is
is
relevant
here
to
address
some
of
Mr
story's
comments
and,
and
certainly
the
comments
that
I
assume
are
meant
to
be.
You
know
assumed
again
from
the
neighborhood
association
that
the
the
comprehensive
plan
designates
this
as
mixed
use.
It
is
adjacent
to
an
RO,
District,
so
I
think
Ro
is
contemplated
as
an
appropriate
Zone
here
for
the
level
of
density
and
intensity
of
development.
K
When
you
look
at
the
lustrate
master
plan
and
it
talks
about
having
dense
housing,
that's
added
to
this
neighborhood
talks
about
the
upper
story,
housing
above
the
retail
that
requires
looking
at
each
site
to
see
okay.
How
do
you
fit
that
Mr
story
suggested?
We
start
at
the
ground
level
and
then
we
look
up
and
and
that's
a
fine
way
to
do
it,
and
that
is
part
of
what's
been
done
here.
K
I
think
we
also
have
to
look
at
if
you're,
going
to
add,
dense
housing
appropriate
with
the
designation
and
the
comp
plan
appropriate
with
the
lust
Street
master
plan.
Then
that
does
require
also
providing
parking
for
that
housing
and
so
trying
to
fit
that
all
into
the
same
building,
as
we
discussed
before.
Just
has
some
trade-offs
there.
K
We
we
hope
that
this
housing,
you
know
again
it's
it's
kind
of
a
boutique
multi-family
building.
This
will
provide
an
opportunity
to
attract
a
variety
of
of
users.
K
M
Memory
I've
got
a
question
for
you,
so
you
spoke
this
a
little
bit
and
maybe
you
can
just
expand
on
this
a
little
bit
more.
So
the
in
the
love,
Street
master
plan,
the
subject
properties
located
within
the
storefront
Main
Street
sub
District,
which
I
think
is
what
kind
of
what
identifies
this
area
is
like
a
unique
District,
some
of
the
the
design
from
the
old
industrial
style
buildings
that
they've
they've
managed
to
kind
of
retrofit
into
new
businesses
and
you've
got
1200
square
feet
of
retail
I.
M
Think
it's
like
30
by
30
by
40..
If
you
do
that,
do
you
envision
a
certain
type
of
retail
going
in
there.
M
I
guess
my
question
is
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
what
kind
of
retail
that
could
be
and
if
you
were
to
look
at
Madres,
if
you
were
to
look
at
Dawson
Taylor
any
of
the
other
businesses
there.
That's
about
probably
half
the
square
footage
of
any
of
those
really
small
businesses,
so
I'm,
just
trying
to
figure
out
like
what
is
the
retail
space?
Have
the
possibility
to
be
at
that
small
of
a
square
footage.
K
I
know
that
do
you
understand.
U
One
of
the
things
we
did
talk
about
with
the
neighborhood
during
some
of
those
meetings
was
trying
to
bring
in
a
local
market
or
Corner
Store
kind
of
like
a
smaller
thing
that
we
were
discussing
with
them
and
maybe
have
it
be
a
local
company.
That's
working
with
that.
So
I
know
that
was
part
of
the
discussion
that
we
talked
about
with
Nate
in
his
group.
Yep.
M
Perfect,
maybe
you
can
stay
up
here
for
just
a
little
bit
longer
so
I
guess
you
know
to
kind
of
follow
up
with
that.
M
I
think
that
everybody
wants
to
see
the
businesses
be
successful.
You
know
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
think
that
we
want
to
set
them
up
to
do
that
from
the
get-go
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
any
design
possible
that
we
could
get
more
retail
space
in
there
while
still
achieving
the
function
of
the
building.
U
Not
a
mayor
and
council
member
Halliburton
I
would
say
that
I
mean
Deborah
kind
of
brought
up
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we're
balancing
there
of
the
housing
up
top
the
parking,
the
flood
plain,
the
retail
we
did
come
in
with
honestly
smaller
and
looked
back
at
it.
We've
looked
at
this
plan
multiple
times.
U
I
can
promise
you
that
we've
kind
of
reinvented
it
a
few
different
times
and
felt
like
this
was
kind
of
that
that
sweet
spot
of
still
balancing
what
we
feel
like
the
market
needs
for
the
housing,
but
also
still
coming
in
with
some
retail.
That
is
more
substantial
than
we
had
before,
and
we
hope
to
be
accommodating
into
that.
Neighborhood
and
I
would
say
some
of
those
other
things
like
the
the
flood
plain
just
causing
you.
U
If
you
can't
go
in
the
basement
versus
up
and
parking
ramps
and
things
that
just
on
this
I
mean
0.4,
Acre,
Site
or
so
is
very
small
and
limited
in
that
factor.
So
we
did
balance
a
lot
of
things
and
we
felt
like
we.
We
did
work
with
the
city
throughout
that
and
hope
that
we
felt
like
this
was
kind
of
The
Sweet
Spot.
M
J
Oh
you're
here:
can
we
ask
about
the
the
Braves
platform?
That's
the
first
I've
heard
that
you
couldn't
put
retail
at
ground
level
in
this
District.
C
J
U
Madam
mayor
customer
thing,
my
understanding,
I,
do
have
a
civil
engineer
who
understands
a
lot
more
of
the
flood
plain,
but
essentially
that
flood
plain
those
uses.
Those
retail
cannot
be
below
that,
as
the
city
mentioned,
that
you
have
to
put
that
two
feet
above
causing
that
to
have
that
difference
in
elevation
of
coming
from
the
sidewalk
and
that
street
to
that
retail
and
so
driving
that,
and
then
we
work,
obviously
with
the
accessibility
and
stairs
ramps
and
things
like
that
to
create
that
design
to
come
down
to
the
streetscape.
U
J
I'm,
just
surprised
I
mean
there's
lots
and
lots
of
buildings
on
closer
to
the
river
that
have
street
level,
of
course,
they're
old
I'm.
Just
it's
the
first
one
I've
seen
that
that
did
this
and
I
I
I'm
trying
to
understand
it.
O
Mayor,
yes,
I
had
a
question
about
the
parking.
Could
you
reiterate
how
many
parking
spots
will
be
available
in
the
development.
K
Madame
mayor
council,
member
Willits,
there
will
be
37
parking
spaces
in
the
garage
and
then
three
parking
spaces
in
the
alley.
Plus
nine
on
straight
parking
spaces
are
created.
M
Amen,
Mary,
I'm
gonna,
move
that
we
deny
car
22-19
rezone
on
916,
West,
Sherwood,
Street
and,
if
I
get
a
second
I,
can
walk
through
a
couple
of
the
reasons.
Why?
Second,
thank
you.
So
you
know
some
of
the
same
concerns
on
this
one.
As
with
the
previous
application.
The
difference
here
really
looking
at
what
the
zoning
is
a
pedestrian-oriented
main
street
with
the
desire
for
a
storefront,
Main
Street
and
that's
what
it's
called
for
in
the
lust
Creek
master
plan
and
I
asked
a
series
of
questions
trying
to
get
to.
M
Can
we
expand
the
size
of
this
retail,
so
it
actually
has
some
form
of
retail
that's
workable
on
the
street,
and
the
answer
is
no
that
we
weren't
able
to
actually
expand
that
while
achieving
the
use
of
the
building
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
tells
me
is
that's
because
that's
not
what
this
area
was
actually
designed
for
in
these
specific
areas
and
to
achieve
that.
M
M
It's
not
What's
outlined
in
there
with
the
additional
reasons
of
more
student
housing,
continued
parking
issues
that
we
have
they're,
having
a
negative
impact
on
the
neighborhood
association
and
to
the
point
where,
if
we
went
from
77
or
74
student
housing
to
77
student
housing,
we're
jumping
again
to
a
higher
percentage
and
continuing
to
dominate
the
neighborhood
with
a
single
type
of
housing.
D
Madam,
mayor
I'm,
supportive
of
the
denial
of
the
rezone
for
many
of
the
same
reasons
that
Council
Pro,
tem,
Halliburton
outlined
and
I
still
maintain
that
we
need
to
give
time
for
the
infrastructure
in
this
area
to
catch
up
to
the
development
I
think
if
we
had
structured
parking
already
that
could
change
the
narrative.
If
we
had
a
development
that
really
respected
that
retail
storefront,
that's
called
for
in
the
master
plan.
I
think
that
could
change
the
narrative
personally
I,
don't
like
that
raised
platform.
D
I,
don't
know
if
it's
a
floodplain
thing
if
it
is
I'm
willing
to
be
educated
but
I,
don't
think
that
it
further
contributes
to
that
Main
Street
feel
that's
present
in
the
last
Lusk
district
and
so
I
think
for
all
of
those
reasons
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
seem
compatible
to
me
with
this
particular
Street.
D
I
would
like
to
see
from
CCDC
and
I've
just
joined
the
board.
I've
not
yet
asked
for
an
update
on
this.
But
what
the
specific
timing
and
plan
is
for
the
shoreline
district
for
the
Lusk
District
to
improve
some
of
that
infrastructure
and
transportation
infrastructure,
so
that
we
can
get
to
the
kinds
of
developments
that
we
need
here,
but
without
completely
wrecking
everything
for
the
people
who
are
currently
located
here
and
who
have
been
here
for
years.
Thank
you.
J
I'm
also
going
to
support
this
motion
I
for
many
similar
reasons.
For
me,
the
the
main
thing
is
this
is
very
small
area
of
the
less
District
that's
identified
as
Main
Street
commercial
as
well.
As
you
know,
encouraging
residential
above
I.
Don't
think
the
RO
zone
is
the
appropriate
Zone
to
achieve
that.
The
Zone
we
do
have
today
that
could
achieve
that
is
a
pedestrian
commercial
Zone
and
be
more
than
willing
to
consider
that
zone
for
this
site.
But
for
me
it's
it's
a
really.
J
What
we're
being
asked
to
do
today
is
rezone
we're
being
asked
to
rezone
to
a
zone
that
does
not
support
what
the
master
plan
that
we
adopted
for
this
area
says:
I
was
willing
to
rezone
the
retail
District
to
the
South,
primarily
because
it's
I
think
an
underutilized
site
today.
It's
because
of
the
grade
difference
very
difficult
to
actually
make
it
work
as
retail
on
on
Capitol
Boulevard.
J
In
this
case,
this
is
the
heart
of
the
district
and
was
not
just
a
retail
District
over
on
the
edge,
but
supposedly
the
heart
of
the
district.
It
seems
like
we
should
stick
with
a
zone
that
actually
meets
that
purpose.
J
L
A
question
for
the
three
who've
spoken
already,
which
is:
are
there
changes
to
this
application,
possibly
significant
ones
that
might
move
you
to
a
different
vote
and
the
reason
I
ask
is
not
because
we
need
to
sit
here
and
redesign
a
building,
but
because
it
may
be
more
efficient
both
for
our
staff
and
for
the
applicant
and
for
the
neighborhood
to
see
this
again
in
a
month
or
two
rather
than
starting
a
whole
new
application
over
and
I
I
think
they
don't
know
the
answer
to
those
questions.
M
Foreign
I
can
respond
to
that.
I
think
that
in
the
master
plan
we
really
do
have
the
storefront
retail
as
the
main
aspect
of
what
these
two
Center
blocks
are
supposed
to
look
like
and
I.
Think
if
the
applicant
could
figure
out
a
way
to
make
the
majority
of
the
the
ground
level
eligible
for
retail,
like
retail,
that
would
actually
you
know,
be
feasible.
Then
I
think
that
that
would
be
an
application.
It
would
support.
D
I'll
respond
to
honestly
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
going
to
be
possible
until
we
have
structured
parking
in
this
neighborhood,
because
the
parking
requirements
for
that
square
footage
of
retail
are
going
to
be
nearly
impossible
to
keep
on
site
and
so
I
think
it
might
just
kind
of
be
a
chicken
and
egg
kind
of
scenario
to
where
we
gotta
let
the
infrastructure
catch
up.
First.
L
Foreign
I
just
need
to
be
educated
by
somebody.
Perhaps
who's
been
on
the
council
for
a
long
time.
If,
if
it
goes
all
the
way
back
to
you
know
requesting
a
completely
different
type
of
Zone,
does
that
functionally
require
a
new
application
to
start
from
the
beginning?
Okay,.
B
So
a
couple
things
on
this
I
mean
the
I've
taken
some
notes,
I'm
sure
staff
has
too
and
we'll
have
a
discussion.
The
CCDC
turning
me
on
the
garage
is
also
dependent
on
the
city
timing
for
some
of
the
development
there.
B
So
it's
not
just
an
agency,
an
agency
separate
from
us
that
is
involved
in
the
in
the
garage
piece,
and
you
got
your
questions
answered
on
the
process
with
that
I'm
going
to
have
the
clerk
call
roll
on
this
one,
but
there
will
be
oh,
we'll
have
follow-up
in
general
I'd
say
we
need
follow-up
on
the
Lusk
district
and
less
Street
neighborhood,
with
some
of
the
issues
that
arose
tonight.
E
L
B
C
B
Right,
we
are
all
back
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
on
this
final
item.
B
Drh22-345
so
first
we'll
have
Josh
present
in
the
appellant
or
yeah
the
appellant.
Sorry
then,
the
applicant
and
then
I
have
a
couple
people
signed
up.
More
of
you
are
here
than
are
signed
up.
So
if
you
plan
to
testify
after
I've
called
through
the
list,
just
let
me
know
and
I'll
probably
just
have
I'll
just
ask
that
you
don't
even
have
to.
B
B
So
if
you
testified
at
the
design
review
hearing
or
if
you
sent
an
email
or
a
letter
to
design
review
hearing,
then
you're
a
part
of
your
record
and
I'll,
find
you
on
this
list
and
we'll
just
check
that
before
folks
testify
and
then
after
that
we'll
hear
from
first
the
applicant
and
then
the
appellant
to
wrap
us
up
and
with
that
Josh.
Why
don't
you
go.
F
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
members
of
council
before
you
tonight
is
an
appeal
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
decision
to
uphold
the
design
review
committee's
approval
of
drh
22-00345
at
4306,
West,
State
Street
to
renovate
an
existing
site
and
buildings
for
use
as
a
shelter
home.
F
The
subject.
Property
is
approximately
two
acres
in
size.
It's
located
in
the
c2d
and
r1c
zones.
As
you
will
likely
recall,
this
was
the
subject
of
an
appeal
process.
Last
year.
Ultimately,
city
council
did
uphold
the
appeal
and
approve
the
application
reversing
to
playing
and
Zoning
commission's
decision.
Subsequently,
the
applicant
did
apply
for
a
design
review
permit
in
order
to
modify
the
site
the
parking
lot,
the
landscaping
and
buildings
in
order
to
commence
the
use
as
the
shelter
home.
F
So
tonight,
I
will
go
through
the
applicants,
design
review
proposal
that
was
approved
by
the
design.
Review
Committee
we'll
discuss
the
design
review
committee's
decision.
The
appeal
decision
that
was
reached
by
playing
Zodi
commission
and
then
examined
the
appeal
before
you
tonight
so
the
subject
property
does
contain
a
large
structure
that
was
formally
used
as
the
Salvation
Army
location.
Additionally,
there
is
a
smaller
accessory
building
towards
the
rear
of
the
property
that
will
also
be
reused
by
the
current
use.
F
Foreign
is
highlighted
here
in
yellow
at
the
rear
of
the
building
taking
access
from
the
west
side
on
an
existing
Drive
aisle.
It
also
accesses
a
trash
enclosure
behind
that
accessory
structure
and
the
applicant
has
worked
with
solid
waste
and
the
fire
department
to
ensure
that
these
accesses
meet
their
dimensional
requirements.
F
Pedestrian
circulation
has
also
been
added
throughout
the
property
to
accommodate
the
residents
and
users
of
the
site.
There
is
a
pathway
along
the
east
and
north
sides
of
the
existing
building.
Additionally,
some
landscape
Pathways
have
been
provided
at
the
rear
of
the
property
for
use
by
residents
during
the
day,
so
a
condition
of
approval
in
the
designer
reviews
committee
approval
does
require
that
the
project
meet
the
required
110
bicycle
parking
spaces
on
site.
The
proposed
locations
for
bicycle
parking
are
highlighted
in
blue
on
the
site
plan
on
the
screen.
F
The
condition
of
approval
placed
on
the
project
requires
that
the
applicant
demonstrate
that
the
bicycle
parking
has
been
provided
not
only
in
the
required
quantity,
but
also
in
the
required
dimensional
standards
in
the
zoning
code.
It
has
been
there's
been
testimony
in
previous
hearings
that
there's
likely
more
room
than
this
required
to
meet
those
dimensional
requirements,
and
the
applicant
will
have
to
demonstrate
that
through
their
construction
permits,
foreign,
as
mentioned
the
Landscaping
on
the
perimeter
of
the
site
and
throughout
the
parking
lot
and
street
Frontage
of
the
site,
will
be
enhanced
and
improved.
F
There
are
new
trees,
new
shrub
plantings,
new
lawn
areas,
existing
mature
trees
at
the
northwest
corner
of
the
site
will
also
be
retained.
There
are
landscape,
Planters,
added
to
the
parking
lot
in
front
of
the
building
to
help
to
soften
and
buffer
that
existing
parking
lot
in
accordance
with
our
landscape,
ordinance
requirements.
F
Also
to
accommodate
the
proposed
use,
there
are
building
additions
proposed
to
meet
the
operational
needs
of
the
facility
on
the
north
side
of
the
structure.
There
are
those
smaller
detached
Locker
buildings
which
will
provide
a
space
for
users,
belongings,
there's
also
a
proposed
Edition
on
the
rear
of
the
building
in
the
northeast
corner
there
to
help
accommodate
interior
operations
and
a
smaller
addition
on
the
front
of
the
building
along
the
street
Frontage
foreign.
F
To
the
Landscaping
parking
lot,
improvements
in
pedestrian
Pathways
throughout
the
site,
the
applicant
has
proposed
to
upgrade
and
repair
the
building,
facade
and
structure.
There
will
be
areas
of
paint
new
metal
awnings.
There
will
be
public
art
on
the
walls
and
a
general
cleaning
up
and
Rehabilitation
of
the
existing
structure.
F
Some
perspectives
that
the
applicant
has
provided
detailing
the
appearance
of
of
the
building
after
the
modification
showing
again
those
metal
awnings
in
that
blue
accent,
cover
color,
providing
cover
for
the
residents
or
for
the
users
of
the
site
that
CMU
and
metal
siding
that
it
will
be
refreshed
and
repainted,
and
then
some
of
the
enhanced
Landscaping
as
well
the
lower
left
hand.
F
Portion
of
the
screen
here
is
that
landscaped
area
in
the
northwest
corner
of
the
site
that
will
have
The
Pedestrian
pathway
in
an
area
for
use
by
by
users
of
the
site.
F
So
after
reviewing
the
submitted
materials
and
taking
public
testimony
to
his
interview
committee
at
their
hearing
of
October,
12
2022
did
approve
the
application.
The
required
design
review
findings
that
they
base
their
decision
are
displayed
here
and
there
are
are
in
your
project
report
as
well
in
the
packets.
They
relate
to
three
main
areas
of
concern
that
is,
site
design,
which
includes
traffic
impact,
Landscaping,
grading
and
drainage
site.
F
So
after
that
decision
on
October
12
2022
by
Design,
Review
Committee,
that
approval
was
appealed,
it
was
appealed
on
October
21st
by
Brent
Matthew
and
subsequently,
three
days
later
by
the
Veterans
Park
neighborhood
association,
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
held
a
hearing
on
December
12
2022
and
considered
the
appeals.
The
planning
zoning
commission
found
that
the
design
review
committee's
decision
was
within
their
statutory
Authority.
F
All
required
procedures
associated
with
the
applications.
Submittals
and
public
hearings
were
followed,
and
the
design
review
committee
made
their
decision
based
on
all
provided
materials
and
took
into
consideration
written
and
public
testimony.
There
was
clear
evidence
that
the
project
complies
with
the
design
review,
approval
findings,
including
compliance
with
the
Citywide
design,
standards
and
guidelines.
F
So,
following
the
plan
of
zoning
commissions,
denial
of
the
appeal,
the
appellants
submitted
appeal
application
to
city
council
based
on
the
following
grounds
shown
on
the
screen
here
that
the
commission's
decision
was
in
violation
of
constitutional
state
or
city
law,
that
the
commission's
decision
exceeded
its
statutory
Authority.
The
decision
was
made
on
unlawful
procedure.
F
F
We
find
that
the
commission
acted
within
their
statutory
Authority,
followed
Provisions
in
Boise
city
code
to
act
on
the
appeal
in
accordance
with
adopted
ordinances.
The
plans
commission
has
purview
over
design
review
appeals
specified
in
Boise
city
code
and
the
commission
followed
appropriate
procedures
and
made
the
required
findings
in
reaching
their
decision.
F
The
plans
commission's
decision
was
not
arbitrary
or
capricious.
The
commission
carefully
considered
the
evidence
in
the
public
record
and
the
public
testimony
provided
to
deliberate
and
reach
a
decision.
You
balance
and
applicants
were
given
due
consideration
and
an
opportunity
to
present
information
specific
to
the
required
design,
review,
findings
and
code.
The
decision
was
based
in
fact,
and
the
evidence
available
in
the
public
record
was
properly
considered.
J
Yes,
thank
you,
Josh
just
a
couple
of
questions.
The
pathways
that
are
shown
don't
connect
to
the
sidewalk
on
State
Street,
especially
on
the
east
side
of
the
building.
Can
you
speak
to
that?
How
is
someone
supposed
to
enter
the
property
if
I'm
walking
down
the
sidewalk
on
State,
Street,
yeah.
F
Madam
mayor
council,
member
Clegg,
so
you'll
probably
recall
this.
This
property
has
a
kind
of
unique
condition
with
a
frontage
road
along
the
front
of
there.
So
so
just
south
of
that
parking
lot
is
actually
a
street.
You
are
correct
that
there
is
a
lack
of
connections
specifically
on
the
east
side
of
the
building.
There
I
believe
that
was
a
result
of
that
building
addition
coming
in
kind
of
late
in
the
process,
so
that
previously
was
a
drive
aisle
across
the
front
of
the
building.
F
J
Also,
it
looks
like
the
bike
parking
on
the
North
side
doesn't
have
any
cover.
If
it's
supposed
to
be
used
by
primarily
by
folks
who
will
be
staying
there,
it
should
be
covered
shouldn't.
It.
F
J
S
I'm
just
gonna
practice:
real,
quick,
yep,
okay,
my
name
is
Katie
Decker
address
is
5001
West
rimosa
Street
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Veterans
Park
neighborhood
association.
S
S
We
heard
from
Council
staff
and
the
applicant
that
the
specific
design
presented
would
mitigate
some
of
the
impacts.
The
neighbors
pointed
out
happening
around
interface,
current
shelter
and
other
shelters
similar
to
what
Interfaith
proposes,
and
we
heard
from
Council
that
this
project
would
be
carefully
monitored,
that
conditions
could
be
added
and
how
extremely
important
it
is
to
get
it
right.
S
No
underlying
review
body
has
acknowledged
the
degree
to
which
this
Council
caveated
its
approval,
with
Reliance
and
design
to
mitigate
impacts.
No
underlying
review
body
was
willing
to
look
closely
at
the
changes
to
see
whether
they
indeed
comply
with
the
conditions
of
approval
and
whether
they
have
the
potential
to
impact
the
success
of
this
project.
S
Against
codified
criteria,
we
understand
that
this
is
the
extent
of
what
is
typically
required
of
design
review
in
Boise.
But
a
reading
of
the
Boise
city
code
makes
clear
that
the
design
review
does
have
the
authority
and
even
the
imperative,
to
consider
the
impact
of
the
project
where
the
project
differs
from
the
prior
cup
approval.
S
So
let's
talk
more
about
some
of
the
changes
to
design
that
were
not
required
by
the
conditions
and
that
could
impact
council's
finding,
but
the
design
would
mitigate
condition,
impacts
that
finding
is
based
upon
the
supposition
that
the
relatively
greater
amount
of
space
and
privacy
that
the
proposed
shelter
provides
compared
to
interfaith's
existing
facility
will
encourage
guests
to
remain
on
site
all
day
as
such.
Any
changes
that
decrease
the
level
of
privacy
and
comfort
in
the
shelter
will
decrease
the
efficacy
of
the
design
and
mitigating
impacts
to
the
neighborhood.
For
example.
S
Access
to
natural
daylight
is
so
important
that,
as
an
example,
it's
called
out
in
design
manuals
for
medical
facilities.
You
can
see
here.
The
September
2021
designs
show
red
circles,
highlighting
more
solar
tubes,
bring
natural
daylighting
into
many
guest
rooms
early
in
interface
design.
When
residents
question
the
lack
of
window,
Windows
airstad
Architects
assured
us
that
they
were
only
missing
due
to
the
preliminary
nature
of
the
design
and
accordingly,
the
design
presented
to
Council
in
April
included
the
highlights
of
the
window
and
solar
tube
locations.
S
Said's
response
is
now
that
these
rooms
are
to
be
used
for
sleeping,
so
they
have
been.
The
light
has
been
removed
as
a
design
feature
to
provide
Darkness.
However,
the
primary
benefit
that
hotel
Sheltering
and
the
design
that
Interfaith
is
attempting
to
promote
is
the
ability
to
retreat
from
crowded
common
spaces
and
close
your
private
door,
which
includes
daytime
use
of
these
rooms.
S
C
S
It's
specified
at
only
four
feet
high,
which
would
allow
easy
Crossing.
We
requested
that
the
same
style
of
fencing
be
provided
around
the
as
around
the
exterior
of
the
property
to
provide
family
guests,
the
same
degree
of
privacy
that
family
neighbors
were
provided,
but
in
our
faith
vehemently
refused.
This
request
seems
to
be
fully
in
line
with
the
council's
intent
to
provide
truly
separated
spaces
for
family
guests
to
segregate
from
single
adult
guests.
S
Similarly,
similarly,
other
changes
in
the
design
have
provided
reduced
quality
of
life
for
the
family
guests
compared
to
what
was
either
previously
promised
or
conditioned
by
Council
I'll
go
through
these
quickly
in
the
interest
of
time,
but
I'm
happy
to
elaborate
later.
If
her
question,
for
instance,
Interfaith
testified
that
families
would
have
private
rooms
and
bathrooms.
The
eight
bed
dorms
with
shared
bathrooms
are
currently
proposed.
C
S
Areas
be
entirely
separated
from
adult
populations.
The
interface
current
design
requires
an
escort
through
the
adult
common
area
after
families
pass
security
intake
at
the
front
side
of
the
building
for
their
written
comments
on
October
6
and
the
site
plans.
Although
this
is
in
direct
contact
contrast
to
the
written
comments
on
January
17th,
stating
that
the
security
area
opens
directly
into
the
respective
population's
Lounge
area.
S
The
January
17th
letter
also
justifies
removing
the
extra
building
in
order
to
provide
a
separate,
Family,
Dining
amenity,
and
that
simply
does
not
ring
true.
The
September
plans
shown
here
from
2021
already
included
a
separate
Family
Dining
space.
In
fact,
the
family
and
adult
sides
are
also
now
connected
through
the
red
shared
through
the
shared
training
cushion
used
as
an
adult
program
space
for
adults.
As
councilmember
Clegg
noted,
the
new
plan
removes
the
cover
on
the
bicycle
parking,
reducing
the
quality
of
the
amenity.
This
is
the
current
versus
the
original
design.
S
As
part
of
the
redesign
of
removing
the
additional
day,
shelter,
construction
and
repurposing,
the
former
proposed
kitchen,
it
also
places
private
rooms
of
both
genders
and
a
separate
building
without
staff
oversight
and
reduces
total
dining
seating
and
segments
areas
day.
Use
areas
without
Clear
Sight
lines
for
staff
oversight.
S
We
first
ask
ourselves
what
is
interfaith's
purpose
in
providing
fencing
of
acoustic
reduction
material
of
Adventure
that
the
sound
generated
by
this
property
is
primarily
guest
conversation
in
the
outdoor
space,
which
is
open
from
7am
to
9pm,
daily
per
condition.
9
of
the
cup,
in
contrast
to
the
prior
commercial
uses,
which
were
limited
to
business
hours.
This
use
generates
conversational
noise
from
the
high
density
population
during
evening
hours,
when
adjoining
Parcels
rely
on
the
quiet
enjoyment
of
their
properties.
S
In
this
case.
Well,
we
appreciate
the
intent
to
provide
sound
mitigation
and,
in
fact,
explicitly
requested
it.
However,
we
need
to
look
at
the
material
selected
objectively,
as
not
all
sound
proofing
is
equally
effective.
The
product
specification
sheet
for
interface
proposed
fencing
is
shown
here.
It
provides
a
sound
transmission
class
rating
of
only
28,
which
is
defined
as
normal
speech
can
be
easily
understood.
S
S
S
For
instance,
in
order
to
separate
security
populations
per
council's
condition,
the
adult
intake
has
been
moved
to
the
west
side
of
the
building
where
the
property
adjoins
Flying.
Pie
Interfaith
states
that,
due
to
the
24-hour
nature
of
the
shelter
there
will
be
no
intake
line.
However,
this
project
is
building
the
only
low
barrier,
shelter
in
the
county
and
will
have
capacity
for
on
the
order
of
50
to
80
fewer
single
adult
guests
than
the
current
low
barrier
shelter
now
serves.
S
You
also
have
condition
11
calling
for
evening
intake
between
5
and
7
pm,
absent
and
additional
condition,
requiring
a
referral
system
to
access
the
shelter
intake.
Why
wouldn't
we
expect
a
line
to
form
each
night
of
additional
people,
hoping
a
space
has
opened
up
under
the
new
design
that
line
forms
adjacent
to
a
restaurant
during
an
evening
dinner
rush
and
forms
in
the
emergency
vehicle
access
route.
S
Both
this
specific
business
impact
and
the
guest
pedestrian
safety
implications
are
new
impacts
of
this
design.
I
also
note
that
there's
no
pedestrian,
sidewalk
or
other
barrier
providing
separated
access
to
reach
the
adult
security
intake
Interfaith
testified
to
Planning
and
Zoning
that
they
have
systems
in
place
to
notify
guests
when
a
spot
is
opened
up.
So
we
request
that
these
be
formalized
in
a
condition
to
prevent
attempted
walk-up
access
to
the
shelter
without
a
pre-arranged
capacity
confirmation
and
to
provide
off-site
transport
if
walk-up
access
occurs.
S
This
is
a
standard
used
in
many
other
jurisdictions,
including
San,
Francisco,
Salt,
Lake,
Huntington,
Beach
and
Portland
Multnomah
County,
and
we
recommend
that
The
Pedestrian
access
to
the
security
intake
be
physically
separated
or
the
entrances
be
moved
to
the
front
for
adults
and
to
the
east
for
families
respectively
and
finally,
I
want
to
highlight,
in
addition
to
the
changes
the
Interfaith
has
made
to
the
design.
There
are
changes
to
the
public
service
infrastructure
assumptions
the
council
replied
upon
and
the
approval
of
the
cup
as
well.
S
Most
importantly,
the
reopening
of
the
Willow
Lane
substation,
even
is
a
limited
touchdown
station
has
been
canceled
and
defunded.
Bpd
testified
that
a
police
station
near
wherever
the
shelter
moves
would
be
critical
infrastructure
and
that
is
no
longer
available.
As
such,
we
recommend
that
the
project
receive
more
explicit
security
conditions,
for
example
through
requiring
third
parties.
Private
security
guards,
such
as
the
city
is
required
for
operation
of
the
hotel,
shelter
or
a
clause
requiring
that
the
city
security
infrastructure
be
in
place
prior
to
the
shelter
being
allowed
to
operate
absent
this.
S
At
this
juncture,
you
may
elaborate
on
your
conditions
and
add
conditions
under
design
review
to
ensure
that
your
original
conditions
are
met,
as
is
required
for
design
review,
or
you
may
remand,
with
instruction
to
redesign
to
meet
your
conditions
if
you
choose
to
uphold
our
appeal.
Thank
you,
foreign.
W
Okay
am
I
foreign.
W
W
W
W
So
the
real
issue
is
the
standards
and
Josh
summarize
them
our
design
review
standards
in
this
city
identify
when
a
design
review
application
is
to
be
considered.
There
are
three
factors:
there
are
three
groups
of
elements
to
be
identified:
one
site,
design
standards,
two
structural
design
standards
and
three
compliance
with
the
Citywide
design,
review,
guidelines
and
standards,
and
what
you
have
not
heard
in
this
appeal.
What
pnz
has
not
heard?
What
design
reviews
not
heard
is
a
single
objection
to
how
we
fail
to
comply
with
these
standards.
W
We
got
here
because
of
the
conditions
of
approval,
the
conditions
of
approval
that
you
imposed
necessitated
us,
going
back
necessitated
us,
going
back,
evaluating
those
conditions
of
approval
and
how
they
impacted
our
design
and
what
we
would
have
to
do
to
comply
with
the
operational
requirements
that
you
had.
Interfaith
sanctuary
and
erstad
Architects
took
several
months
to
review,
evaluate
refine
and
evolve
that
design
and
the
culmination
is
this
application.
W
So
what
conditions
necessitated
modifications
to
our
design
and
how
does
it
make
it
better?
First
condition:
number
one
established
the
population
that
this
shelter
would
serve,
eliminating
any
requirement
or
ability
to
provide
overflow
emergency
use,
which
then
resulted
in
an
evaluation
of
whether
or
not
all
the
space
that
had
been
previously
programmed
was
needed
to
be
the
way.
It
is
second
conditions,
two
and
three
recognized
that
both
the
Landscaping
plan
and
the
site
plan
would
be
revised
as
modified
herein.
Now
that
is
language
that
you
use
regularly.
W
Your
staff
understands
most
applicants
understand,
but
the
argument
has
been
made
that
any
change
to
those
constitutes
a
violation
and
a
need
to
go
back
to
the
very
beginning.
That
is
not
the
Catch-22
that
I
believe
you
ever
intend
when
you
impose
those
requirements,
additionally
condition
four
identified:
half
a
dozen
items
that
you
directed
us
to
refine
in
the
design
review
process
and
present
to
the
design,
Review
Committee
for
consideration
and
then
finally,
conditions,
9,
11,
25,
26
and
30
all
established
operational
conditions
that
necessitated
further
Evolution
and
revision
of
the
design.
W
W
Now,
I
would
note
that
both
the
design,
Review,
Committee
and
planning
and
zoning
and
as
vpna
acknowledged,
recognize
that
design
review
standards
do
not
apply
to
internal
design
and
internal
building
code
issues.
Those
are
administrative
staff
level
compliance
with
building
codes,
but
we
do
have
to
address
those
standards.
So
I,
guess
the
positive
of
us
being
back
in
front
of
you
tonight
is
you
can
see
how
we
modified
the
application
of
why
it's
been
improved.
W
W
W
You
know,
throughout
the
proceeding,
we'd
heard
objections
to
intake
occurring
in
the
rear
of
the
building
because
of
the
impact
upon
neighbors,
so
we
relocated
it
and
separated
it.
We
separated
it
by
relocating
the
adult
intake
to
this
location
here
right
here.
Sorry,
madam
mayor
and
I
apologize,
councilmember
Willis,
you
can't
see
it,
but
the
rust
color
areas
are
the
intake
areas.
Now
the
direction
was
to
provide
for
separation,
which
we
have
done
the
front
intake,
because
we
also
heard
the
objections
from
the
neighbors
that
they
didn't
want.
People
lined
up
in
front.
W
They
didn't
want
people
lined
up
in
front.
They
didn't
want
people
in
the
back,
but
we're
not
having
lines,
because
it's
24,
7.
and
what's
misunderstood,
is
that
there
is
such
a
demand
for
families
that
families
are
on
a
waiting
list.
So
when
a
family
comes
in,
they
come
in
the
front
door
and
they're
escorted
over
to
the
family
side,
where
their
intake
will
happen
with
an
appointment
when
there
is
space
available
for
them.
Now.
How
else
did
we
physically
separate
it?
So
we
separated
the
access?
W
Well,
we've
separated
the
dining
areas
and
yes,
there
was
Family
Dining
before
in
this
area,
but
recognizing
the
need
that
we
could
not
utilize
this
as
a
kitchen
and
have
the
degree
of
separation
that
we
were
directed
to
have
we
construct
a
wall.
We
build
the
kitchen
that
serves
both
the
families
and
our
adult
guests,
and
there
are
only
two
points
of
entry
from
this
area
here
into
this.
With
locked
doors
is
demonstrated
there.
There
are
88
seats
here
for
adult
dining
88
seats
here
for
Family
Dining.
W
Now
we
had
to
have
additional
outdoor
recreation
area
that
was
separated,
so
we
did
that
and
is
an
appropriate
condition
if
you
don't
like
the
fencing
that
we've
installed
here,
that's
an
appropriate
condition
for
design
review
to
address,
but
the
design
Review
Committee
was
comfortable
with
what
we'd
proposed,
but
by
eliminating
the
building
that
had
primarily
been
constructed
to
serve
as
day
shelter
plus
emergency
overflow,
we
could
increase
the
amount
of
Green
Space,
the
pervious
surfaces
and
the
ability
to
do
things
there.
How
do
we
serve
those
adult
populations?
W
W
The
adult
day,
shelter
is
right
here:
okay,
thanks
and
what
happens
is
intake
and
security
is
right
here
in
those
individuals
who
enter
in
through
there.
Whether
they're,
returning
guests
or
new
guests
are
taken
right
into
that
area
area.
That's
provided
to
provide
the
day,
shelter
the
services,
those
types
of
things,
so
we've
provided
more
than
enough
of
seeding
we've
provided
these
other
things,
but
we've
provided
the
separation,
because,
if
we're
going
to
serve
multiple
populations
with
the
direction
you
gave
us,
it
necessitated
revisions
to
the
design.
W
Now,
let's
talk
about
again
storage
and
outdoor
spaces
originally,
yes,
these
two
storage
containers
were
going
to
be
located
here
and
with
bike
parking,
but
to
your
point
to
provide
the
degree
of
separation,
we
had
to
relocate
that,
so
we
moved
the
bike
parking
here
along
this
fence
and
here
with
the
container
same
size,
containers
and
then
relocated
the
family
storage,
to
a
secured
storage
area
as
an
addition
here,
so
you
now
have
secured
storage
for
both
populations
that
are
separate
and
distinct.
You
separately
have
green
space
and
recreational
areas
now
to
council.
W
Member
clegg's
questions
previously.
Yes,
if
we
need
to
further
refine
where
the
walkways
and
how
this
treatment
is
here
to
to
provide
access
and
Define
it,
that
is
an
appropriate
design,
review
condition
and
to
Josh's
point,
it's
probably
something
that
just
got
overlooked
in
the
course
of
it,
because
here's
your
entrance,
we're
defining
that
and
the
same
thing
with
the
bike
shelters
is
that,
yes,
we
have
the
condition
to
comply
with.
The
original
condition
of
approve
did
not
specifically
require
covered
bike
parking
and
we
had
to
relocate
it
to
be
able
to
do
it.
W
But
if,
if
you
want
that
as
a
design
condition,
we
can
do
that
now.
One
thing
that
has
happened
is
we
have
had
lengthy
discussions
with
staff
and
public
works,
and
you
can
see
here
the
original
garbage
enclosure
that
was
proposed
here.
It
has
been
relocated
here
to
the
front
of
the
building,
with
the
direction
and
guidance
of
Public
Works,
and
that
modification
was
submitted.
It's
obviously
things
are
moving
forward,
that's
an
appropriate
condition
because
we
can
build
the
enclosure
consistent
with
the
design
guidelines.
W
We
can
put
it
at
the
front
of
the
building,
which
minimizes
virtually
all
of
your
regular
traffic
that
would
ever
need
to
access
the
rear
of
the
building.
The
only
traffic,
then
that
would
ever
need
to
access
the
rear
of
the
building
is
if
you
were
to
have
an
emergency
to
satisfy
that
circulation
requirement.
You
won't
have
garbage
trucks
backing
up
which
further
provides
mitigation.
W
W
We've
increased
the
total
number
of
seats,
as
indicated
so
that
you
now
have
283
seats,
provided
exclusive
of
outdoor
seats
and
exclusive
of
program
space
that
is
the
family
Lounge.
That
is
the
adult
day
room,
that
is
the
family,
dining
area
and
the
adult
dining
area.
We've
recognized
the
importance
of
this,
and
how
have
we
done
it?
W
W
Because
we
came
to
the
conclusion
that
reusing
space
that
is
already
here
and
just
extending
a
wall
in
that
loading
dock
area,
which
would
have
been
storage,
enabled
us
to
put
all
of
the
familial
space
here.
Yes,
those
family
spaces
take
up
to
potentially
eight
people,
but
we
have
a
flexible
interior
design
system
so
that
we
can
repurpose
and
make
those
smaller.
W
The
sad
and
unfortunate
thing,
though,
is
that
we
have
many
families
that
need
eight
places,
so
we
have
been
looking
at
that
we've
been
addressing
that
I'm
grateful
if
anything
in
this
process
that
we've
been
able
to
come
back
to
tell
you.
We
have
made
it
better.
There
are
those
that
may
disagree,
but
I
don't
think
that
they
have
satisfied
identifying
any
deviation
or
mistake
from
the
design
review
process.
W
At
this
point,
Madame
mayor
members
of
the
council,
we
would
request
that
you
deny
the
appeal
that
you
recognize
that
the
design
review
committee's
decision
was
correct
and
that
the
planning
is
only
commissioned
correctly
upheld
that
when
that
decision
was
appealed
to
them
and
with
that,
I
will
stand
for
any
questions
and
I
have
Mr
erstad
and
Ms.
Peterson
Steiger
is
here
to
help
answer
questions
you
may
have
been
mayor.
M
It
might
be
helpful
to
have
the
architect
up
as
well.
Okay,
so
condition
four
is
where
we
really
kind
of
start
talking
a
lot
about
design
review
and
it
says
design
review
approval
is
required
prior
to
submittal
of
construction
permits,
in
addition
to
the
standard
consideration,
the
application
to
address
the
following,
the
first
one
being
perimeter,
fencing
screen
and
wall
design
and
then
later
it
talks
about
that
being
eight
feet
tall.
M
X
Mayor
council,
member
Pro,
Tim
hollyburton
Andy
urstead,
310,
North,
5th
Street,
Boise
Idaho.
We
we
have
met
the
condition
of
of
on
the
eight
foot
fence
around
the
perimeter
of
the
property.
We
did
also
include
a
cut
sheet
on
the
materials
that
we
were
proposing.
Design,
review,
Planning
and
Zoning
were
all
comfortable
with
that
perfect.
M
I'm
going
to
try
to
move
fast
through
a
couple
of
these
things,
one
of
the
name,
the
folks
from
the
neighborhood
association,
brought
up
sound
as
well.
Was
there
any
attempt
to
do
any
soundproofing
on
any
of
those
fences
that
separate
the
properties.
X
M
X
Madam
Madam
mayor
and
Council
Pro
tem
Halliburton.
We
as
a
condition.
We
will
have
that
signage.
Yes,
great.
M
See
it
says,
distribution
of
waste
receptacles
around
the
site.
We've
talked
about
that
a
little
bit.
Are
there
additional
waste
receptacles
to
make
sure
that
there's
not
too
much
piling,
and
can
you
show
them
on
there
or
is
that
something
that
we
don't
have
detailed
yet.
X
Mayor
and
Council
Tim
Halliburton,
we
have
shown
an
indication
of
trash
receptacles
and
we
will
certainly
show
more
I
think
as
as
you
get
out
there,
as
the
project
becomes
activated,
we
may
have
to
add
additional
trash.
Receptacles.
W
Madam
mayor
councilmember,
Hallie
Burton,
just
taking
you
back
to
this,
exhibit
here
erstad
Architects
keyed,
the
location
where
we
proposed
to
put
those
trash
receptacles
and
that
specifically
is
referenced
as
4C.
Slash,
12.,
okay,.
M
Next,
one
install
safe,
syringe
disposal
in
partnership
with
the
Idaho
Department
of
Health
and
Welfare.
Do
we
have
those
identified
on
site.
X
Specifically
Madame
mayor
council,
Putin
Halliburton,
that's
fine
dispense
with
the
formality.
We
we
will.
We
do
have
those
identified
in
the
same
diagram,
so
one
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
important
is
is:
is
this
diagram
that
we
included
in
in
our
submission,
and
it
was
a
diagram
that
identified
each
condition
of
approval
from
Council
so
that
we
made
sure
we
as
we
walk
through
the
process?
We
made
sure
we
addressed
each
and
every
one
of
those
perfect.
M
I've
got
two
more
I
want
to
make
sure
I
give
a
certain
amount
of
Faith
to
design
review,
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
make
any
amount
of
errors,
but
there's
also
some
very
specific
things
that
we
mentioned
in
the
conditions
to
ask
design
review
to
do
and
I
need
to
make
sure
that
you
are
doing
those
ones,
because
those
are
the
ones
we
ask
you
to
do,
and
then
I
need
to
have
some
Faith
to
design
review.
Who
knows
way
more
about
some
of
this
stuff
than
I.
M
X
M
J
Thank
you
just
a
couple,
so
an
extension
of
the
pathway
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
to
the
street
so
that
you
can
actually
get
to
the
pathway,
or
is
that
I
I'm
unclear
what
that
pathway.
W
W
There,
council
members
I
mean
Josh,
can
you
go
back
to
that
depiction?
Madam
mayor,
councilman
click.
Yes,
there
are
Gates,
because
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
directed
is
that
we
have
security.
They
are
looking
at
this.
You
see
how
we've
improved
that
along
those
sides-
and
we
have
you
know
our
designated
walkway
there,
and
we
had
addressed
that
as
well
by
how
you
stripe
and
extend
this
up
here
to
your
point.
Yes,
there
is
a
gate
right
there.
W
There
is
an
entrance
that
can
be
utilized
and
I
have
to
defer
to
our
other
people,
but
we've
we've
identified
where
the
main
entrance
is
for
families
and
for
people
after
hours.
So
we
don't
see
a
problem
with
extending
you
know
extending
a
walkway,
a
crosswalk
right
there
and
then
doing
additional
treatment
out
here
to
make
it
clear
where
the
entrance
is.
By
the
same
token,
you
know
if
you
want
us
to
extend
this
and
make
it
clear
we
can,
but
that
is
a
fence
with
a
gate.
That's
secured
and
that's
a
gate
as
well.
J
What
those
aren't
open,
except
when
would
they
be
open,
they'd,
be
open
if
a
vehicle
needs
stand
or
what?
What
yes.
W
J
Okay,
so
I
I
do
believe
that
we
need
to
make
clear
where
the
entrance
is
I,
guess
I'm
I'm
a
little
well,
let's
go
to
the
bike
bike
parking,
I,
I
understood
it
was
going
to
be
covered
because
we
saw
I
think
a
visual
that
showed
it
covered
best
practices.
Is
that
if
you're
going
to
have
storage
for
that
kind
of
storage
for
bikes
that
it
that
it
is
covered?
So
if
you
could
address
that
and.
W
Madam
mayor
council,
member
Clegg,
yeah
I
mean
that
was
that
was
a
design
element
that
was
here
that
had
to
get
relocated.
Now
we
have
added.
We
have
added
this
as
canopy
all
the
way
around
here,
but.
W
J
Y
Y
Right,
we
did
have
the
huge
storage
unit
on
the
front
and
then,
when
we
had
to
separate
the
families,
we
lost
all
of
that
geography.
It
gave
us
more
green
space
for
the
kids,
but
we
lost
the
ability
to
have
that
very
big
cupboard
area.
Okay,.
J
W
B
B
H
I'm
Dave
Charlotte
I
live
at
2609
North
36th
Street
I'm
in
the
Veterans
Park
neighborhood
and
adjacent
across
the
street
to
the
Sunset
Park
neighborhood
I'd
like
to
I,
don't
want
to
repeat
any
of
Katie's
work
and
I'll
be
very
brief.
The
Boise
city
code,
110204.1,
addressing
the
design
review,
obligations
and
requirements
are
three
main
points.
H
One
is
appearances,
the
other
is
a
harmonious
community
and
the
third
is
protecting
property
rights
and
values,
and
it's
clear
that
as
far
as
the
appearance,
obviously
there's
been
a
Monumental
amount
of
work
in
this
design,
a
difficult
design
problem
and
no
one
can
deny
that
the
erstadt
design,
when
you
view
it
from
State
Street,
is
an
incredible
Improvement
of
this
whole
building.
So
on
that
that
appearances,
part
they've
got
to
win
on
the
harmonious
Community
part,
we
don't
have
a
win.
We
have
four
neighborhood
associations
for
Endless.
H
Appearances
and
hearings
have
disapproved
this
and
and
do
not
want
this
to
go
ahead,
and
the
third
is
regarding
protecting
property
rights
and
values,
and
it
has
been
said
by
many
in
these
various
hearings
what
this
could
do,
including
real
estate
professionals,
what
this
can
do
to
the
value
of
these
neighborhoods.
H
M
H
I'm
not
arguing
it's
the
design,
I'm
arguing
it
is
the
use
it's
the
use.
It
seems
to
many
in
these
neighborhoods
that
all
that's
happening
here
is
relocating
Cooper
Court
from
a
valuable
piece
of
real
estate,
downtown
to
what
many
may
consider
a
less
valuable
piece
of
property
in
the
old
Salvation
Army
buildings.
H
B
Z
I'm
sorry,
my
name
is
Martin
Mayo
I
live
at
2540,
Warm
Springs,
East,
Warm,
Springs,
Avenue
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
personal
perspective.
I'm
a
volunteer.
Z
Our
church
was
asked
to
volunteer
at
the
center
and
I
went
out
there
last
fall
and
started
there,
and
one
of
the
things
that's
missing
here
is
the
people
who
come
there,
what
you
don't
see
in
these
diagrams
and
what
you
see
with
its
flow
when
talking
about
families
here
and
there,
you
don't
see
the
people
there
who
are
going
through
this
process,
I
see
them
every
day
and
I
am
amazed.
We
run
150
200
people
every
day
go
through
that
Center
they
are
respectful,
they
know
where
to
go.
They
know
where
to
be.
Z
They
know
where
to
come
in.
They
know
where
to
go
out.
They
know
what
the
rules
are.
They
know.
If
they
don't
follow
those
rules,
they
will
lose
their
privileges.
They
have
a
great
respect
for
this
Center
and
the
thing
that
we're
missing
here
is
to
see
what,
when
you
put
those
people
in
there,
this
isn't
like
they're
strangers
and
where
do
I
go
and
I'm
lost
and
all
there's
a
staff
there
and
and
the
people
who
come
there.
They
know
where
to
go
and
they
know
what
needs
to
be
done.
Z
The
people
who
are
really
are
in
need
are
in
a
facility
now
that
it
just
can't
compare
and
they
have
personal
time
and
personal
respect
for
themselves
and
that's
the
thing
they
take
away
and
I
I
want
to
say
that
I
am
amazed
at
how
respectful
they
are
to
us,
the
staff
and
the
people
who
come
there
and
what
what
we
do
for
them
to
keep
them
out
of
this
cold
weather
in
the
middle
of
the
Winter.
Thank.
C
V
891
North
Lander
Street
I've
been
a
nurse
for
over
30
years
at
the
Boise
VA
St
Luke's
downtown
and
on
a
Native,
American
reservation
and
I
have
a
clear
understanding
of
the
homeless
population.
I
am
very
concerned
tonight
about
the
medically
fragile
area
proposed
by
Interfaith
Alliance
Idaho,
State,
Health
and
Welfare
tell
me
that
they
have
no
oversight
of
this
particular
unit.
What
patient
care
standards
will
be
enforced.
The
floor
plan
showing
one
room
for
storage
and
a
nursing
station
is
far
too
small.
Hospice
patients
use
Controlled
Substances,
including
narcotics.
V
How
are
they
to
be
handled
safely?
The
original
cup
floor
plan
approved
by
this
city
council,
was
for
12
people
using
three
bathrooms
the
now
it
is
for
21
people
using
three
bathrooms.
How
many
bathrooms
do
we
all
have
in
our
homes?
Would
one
bathroom
accommodate
seven
ill
people
and
compromised
I
doubt
it?
Please
use
this
appeal
to
change
the
number
of
patients
per
bathroom
back
to
four,
a
seemingly
small
change,
but
a
Monumental
one
on
a
daily
basis
for
years
to
come.
V
The
police
substation
at
Willow
Lane,
although
closed
now,
will
be
reopened
as
the
need
demands,
even
without
the
shelter
up
and
running.
Yet.
My
personal
calls
for
service
have
increased
threefold
since
last
June.
Those
include
a
Narcotics
overdose,
nearly
in
my
front
yard
and
homeless
Camp
by
the
boat
ramp
at
Willow,
Lane,
no
conditions
placed
on
the
shelter
would
have
stopped
these
events.
I
want
to
thank
the
city
council
for
their
diligent
and
good
work,
tackling
the
affordable
housing
issue.
It
is
a
critical
piece
in
aiding
the
homeless.
V
That
being
said,
the
overwhelming
consternation,
upset
and
ill
will
swirling
around
this
entire
issue
was
mostly
avoidable.
This
Council
needs
to
know
that
not
one
of
the
police,
fire
or
EMS
that
I
have
called
to
my
property
knew
what
a
low
barrier
shelter
is.
Not
one
of
them
Norm
do
most
of
the
residents
in
this
city.
V
This
is
inexcusable.
Had
there
been
education
and
communication,
I've
lost
my
spot
about
the
need
for
a
new
shelter
in
the
city
before
land
was
purchased
anywhere.
We
most
certainly
would
not
have
spent
the
last
two
years
as
we
have
boiseans
are
intelligent
with
big
hearts
and
very
Deep
Pockets
by
educating
the
city
about
homelessness.
Boise
would
have
quickly
grasped
the
huge
differences
between
the
general
homeless
population
and
their
needs
and
those
needing
low
barrier.
Sheltering
had
people
known
from
the
beginning.
V
A
shelter
system
would
have
been
created
that
works
for
everyone,
including
the
majority
of
shelter
guests
who
do
not
want,
nor
should
they
be
forced
into
Sheltering,
with
the
low
barrier
population.
Why
Interfaith
Alliance
itself
did
not
abdicate
for
a
new
shelter
model,
since
they
are
the
supposed
experts
and
care
about
their
guests
is
beyond
me.
I
am
so
very
sorry
that
all
went
this
way.
Boise
will
come
to
realize
sooner
than
later
that
it
is
no
different
than
New,
York,
City
or
LA,
and
that
part
of
the
homeless
population
needs
it
entirely.
C
V
B
So
those
are
the
folks
that
signed
up
in
advance
on
the
papers,
if
you're
here
to
testify
I'm
going
to
ask
for
the
next
person
to
come
on
up.
B
N
B
AA
AA
I'll
try
to
be
brief
and
there's
much
I
could
say
in
this
and
already
have
said
on.
The
record.
I
appealed
to
the
designer
committee
decision
until
planning
and
zoning
committee,
most
specifically
to
request
an
improvement
in
the
acoustic
quality
of
the
the
fans,
particularly
to
the
north,
but
also
to
the
east,
with
the
intent
to
preserve
and
and
protect
privacy
and
property
values.
AA
I'm
disappointed
with
the
process
that
there
does
not
seem
to
be
uneasy
means
to
engage
the
city
in
the
design
review
on
something
that
should
be
such
common
sense
and
I
understand
from
ersted
Architects
that
they
have
and
the
design
Review
Committee
that
they
have
approved
according
to
the
code,
the
perimeter
defense
as
adequate,
and
that
may
be
true
according
to
the
code,
but
whether
it's
adequate
to
protect
property
values
and
privacy,
I
highly
question
and
I
think
the
city
could
do
better
and
in
this
instance,
I
would
request
the
city
step
up
and
provide
the
funding
to
protect
the
property
values
and
privacy
of
this
neighborhood's
residence.
AA
An
assist
interface
Sanctuary
to
improve
the
fencing
to
enhance
its
acoustical
ability.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
Brent,
it
looks
like
you've
got
a
question
if,
from
the
counts
from
council
member
Clyde
thank.
A
J
Your
testimony,
do
you
have
any
specific
request
in
terms
of
the
sound
attenuation
characteristics
you'd
like
to
see
in
such
a
fence?
In
other
words,
what
what
decibel
level
would
you
like
to
see
it
protected
against.
AA
AA
I
would
rely
on
planning
and
zoning
and
the
design
Review
Committee
to
provide
that
because
I'm,
not
an
expert
I,
did
provide
testimony
that,
in
addition
to
fencing,
I
think
that
a
setback
with
Shrubbery
could
also
mute
and
and
soften
the
effect
of
the
noise
and
one
of
the
proposals
I
made
was
that
this
the
city
could
work
with
interface,
sanctuary
to
design,
install
and
maintain
a
green
space,
a
shrubbery
and
if
there's
not
enough
space
on
interface
property,
perhaps
so
you
could
work
with
the
residents
is
to
the
north
and
assist
them
in
installing
and
maintaining
Shrubbery.
B
G
Hi,
my
name
is
Gary
zorman
I
live
on
Plum
Street
in
April.
Interfaith
assured
you
that
mitigation
is
in
the
design.
You
took
that
seriously
and
carefully
crafted
conditions
to
best
ensure
the
design
would
mitigate
impacts,
including
adhering
to
presented
plans
fully
separate
areas
for
families
with
lock
barriers,
a
day,
shelter
day
use
requirements,
Etc
and
Madam
mayor.
You
also
highlighted
the
importance
of
design
review
when
instructing
counsel
be
clear
what
the
kind
of
push
points
you'd
like
them
to
flesh
out
at
design
review.
G
Further,
you
realize
the
importance
of
conditions
you
were
creating
and
the
importance
of
adhering
to,
and
even
strengthening
them,
Council
Pro,
tem
woodings
emphasized
this.
This
list
of
conditions
is
going
to
be
hard
work
in
making
sure
that
they
are
complied
with,
that
they
mitigate
impact
and
creating
additional
conditions.
G
If
not
and
council
member
Halliburton
added
I,
believe
these
conditions
can
address
the
adverse
impact
we
need
to
make
sure
we
are
holding
ourselves
an
Interfaith
accountable
to
following,
through
with
the
conditions,
further
council
president
kleg
additive,
everyone
performs
it
will
work,
and
so
I
wanted
to
tell
you
how
important
it
is
that
this
perform.
But
at
design
review,
Interfaith
presented
a
completely
different
design
and
in
review
and
appeal,
neither
DRC
nor
pnz
grasped
the
criticality
you
placed
upon
the
design
and
its
conditions.
Commissioner
Moore
demonstrates
this
by
claiming.
G
We
have
proof
where
this
exterior
does
comply
with
conditions.
Not
true.
This
design
diverges
dramatically
from
what
you've
seen
and
what
your
conditions
contemplated.
It
adds
21
percent
more
building
area,
a
major
modification
moves,
adult
intake
alongside
Flying
Pie,
risking
their
viability,
removes
natural
light.
Pushing
guests
out
into
the
neighborhood
creates
new
safety
risks
by
adding
a
storage
building
outside
the
secure
facility
and
a
dorm
building
without
security
personnel
and
the
day
building
was
removed.
Etc
these
material
changes
create
new
safety
and
property
impacts.
G
One
rush
out
over
the
importance
you
placed
upon
interface
design
and
violate
your
conditions,
requiring
that
the
plans
from
April
and
September
21
be
followed
instead
of
design
review
being
a
chance
to
do
the
work,
Council,
Pro,
tem
weddings
spoke
of
pnz
was
capricious
declining
to
review
substantial
competent
evidence
presented
at
Dr
o'kiel.
Commissioner
Blanchard
said
quote:
we
couldn't
possibly
put
enough
conditions
on
this
thing
to
make
it
work.
We
all
agreed
and
Council
put
these
conditions
on
it.
Dr
put
conditions
on
it,
I'm
not
inclined
to
take
a
second
bite.
G
At
this
thing
we
set
our
piece
and
got
thrown
under
the
bus,
and
then
he
dismisses
Mr
Matthew's.
Testimony
I'm,
not
sure
why
Mr
Matthew
thought,
once
the
neighborhood
association
had
an
attorney.
Who
was
doing
this,
that
he
ought
to
jump
the
queue
and
file
an
appeal.
The
evidence
was
ignored.
Please
ensure
this
design
reflects
the
importance
and
conditions
you
placed
upon
it.
Please
remand
the
design
for
further
work
or
further
condition
it.
B
All
right
before
we
go
to
rebuttal
is
there
any?
Are
there
any
further
questions
for
staff.
J
Madam
mayor
I
do
have
a
question
for
staff
Josh.
Could
you
tell
us
what
the
the
sound
characteristics
of
the
wall
or
fence
that's
being
proposed?
Are.
F
F
Madam,
mayor
council,
member
Clegg,
the
design,
review
standards
and
guidelines
and
I
think
design
review
code
in
general
are
not
specific
about
sound
attenuation
and
what
would
be
an
appropriate
level
again
based
on
the
appellants
memo
you
know,
a
STC
of
28
would
would
say
that
normal
speech
could
be
understood
beyond
that
wall.
Again
we
don't
have
specific
standards
to
rely
on
on
what
is
appropriate
in
terms
of
mitigating
that.
W
Madam
mayor
members
of
council,
Jeff,
Wardle,
251
East
Front
here
in
Boise,
I
I
want
to
clarify
one
thing
that
may
have
been
misinterpreted.
My
exchange
with
council
member
Clegg
we're
not
just
doing
what
we
have
to
do
to
get
approved,
we're
doing
what
we
understood
you
to
be
telling
us
to
do
through
your
conditions,
and
if
we
misunderstood
something,
please
be
specific
and
we
will
fix
it.
W
I
would
note,
however,
that
you
know
this
whole
issue
of
the
fencing
erstad
submitted
the
cut
sheets,
the
description,
the
evaluation
of
what
we
intended
to
do,
because
we
knew
it
was
important
to
you.
It
was
something
above
and
beyond
just
you
know
a
type
of
traditional
screen
fence,
and
that
would
be
an
appropriate
condition
if
you
want
to
see
some
further
refinement.
W
If
design
review
wanted
to
see
that
that
would
be
great,
but,
as
staff
pointed
out,
you
know
when
we
go
look
at
the
standards
under
the
code
for
what
we
address
in
terms
of
fencing.
We
have
satisfied
it
and
we
have
gone
above
and
beyond.
If
you
don't
think
that
that
satisfies
it
then
tell
us
what
else
we
need
to
do.
W
I
would
pause
it,
however,
that
a
CMU
fence,
a
CMU
wall
is
wholly
inappropriate
based
upon
the
two
years
worth
of
comments
that
we
had
heard
from
property
owners
in
the
back
when
we
said
what
about
a
10
foot
fence
what
about
this?
What
about
that
we've
been
trying
to
address
it
and
the
fundamental
problem?
Is
it's
squeezing
a
balloon?
You
address
a
situation
here
and
it
raises
some
other
objection
there
with
the
example
being
the
intake.
W
There
is
no
line,
I
mean
that's
a
Canard
that
we
have
heard
repeatedly,
but
we've
come
up
with
a
design
that
eliminates
the
line,
but
you
also
told
us
we
needed
to
have
an
access
in
the
front
for
after
hours.
Well,
as
we
thought
about
that
from
a
security
perspective
recognizing
when
you
talk
about
separation,
we
don't
interpret
that
to
mean
that
we
have
to
have
a
especially
with
families
coming
in
Via
appointment,
that
there
has
to
be
a
separate
sally
port
for
families
to
enter
this
building.
W
Yet
that's
what
I
interpret
you've
heard
demanded
from
The
Neighbors.
What
we
come
back
to
is:
yes,
there
was
a
modification
to
this
design.
Why?
Because
we
addressed
the
conditions
you
imposed
upon
us
and
I
have
to
say
and
I
said
it
at
pnz
and
I,
set
it
at
designer
I'm
going
to
say
it
to
you
too.
I
have
never
worked
with
an
architectural
consultant
who
has
given
me
a
descriptive
Narrative
of
how
we
comply
with
conditions
of
approval
like
erstad
Architects
has
done
here.
W
We
took
this,
we
took
what
you
told
us
and
it
may
not
be
it.
You
know
we
we're
looking
at
this
as
an
eight
and
a
half
by
eleven
we're
looking
at
it
as
Ledger,
but
first
ad
Architects
tells
you
where
the
lighting
is
ersted.
Architect
tells
you
where
the
garbage
is
the
Earth's.
That
Architects
tells
us
where
the
the
sharp
collectors
are
going
to
be
it's
clear.
There
are
some
items
that,
as
we
look
at
tonight,
both
Andy
and
I
are
looking
at
each
other
going
yeah
that
slipped
through
the
cracks.
W
We
need
to
further
refine
condition
4B
for
walkways
to
make
it
clear
on
how
you
get
to
the
front,
because
I
think.
By
the
same
token,
we
don't
want
to
be
sending
people
to
areas
where
they
don't
directly
have
access.
So
council
member
Clegg,
that's
that's
appropriate
that
we
should
revise
the
access
so
that
it's
it's
clearer
from
the
front
of
the
building,
how
people
get
there
with
respect
to
covered
bike
parking,
we
had
to
make
that
change
to
to
provide
the
separated
recreational
space.
W
We
had
to
make
that
change
now,
as
Andy
and
I
again
were
looking
at
this
to
your
point.
There
are
covered
areas
that
we
can't
put
bikes
in
because
that
interferes
with
circulation,
though
so
that's
fine.
There
are
other
covered
areas
that
we
already
have
where
we
certainly
can
and
looking
at
it
where
the
family
is
where
we
don't
have
an
entrance
or
a
gate.
We
certainly
can
provide
that
outside
and
you
raise
a
valid
point.
W
N
S
Katie
Decker
again,
I
want
to
start
by
pointing
out
that
this
is
the
only
process
available
to
make
comments
on
things
like
the
fencing
and
to
make
comments
on
new
impacts.
We've
had
a
lot
of
accusations
that
this
is
a
bad
faith
process,
a
design
review
at
pnz
and
here.
But
this
is
the
first
time
we've
been
able
to
comment
on
the
fencing
material,
and
this
is
the
first
time
that
anybody
has
asked
questions
on
what
the
attenuation
qualities
of
that
material
is.
So
we
had
no
choice
but
to
appeal.
S
I
did
provide
written
comments
regarding
statements
of
air,
but
I'm,
happy
to
repeat
them
here
with
regard
to
violation
of
constitutional
state
and
federal
law.
The
decision
failed
to
protect
Public,
Safety
health
or
against
the
diminution
of
property,
values
or
minimize
impacts
on
adjoining
residential
uses
and
districts,
all
of
which
are
stipulated
in
the
design
review
section
of
the
Boise
code.
S
There's
also
a
violation
of
the
express
standard
criteria
in
approving
major
modifications
to
this
permit
without
a
major
modification
application,
because
council
did
not
sufficiently
particularize
their
findings
regarding
maintaining
coherence
with
the
previously
submitted
plans
for
a
lower
review
body
to
approve
those
changes
as
not
in
creating
impacts
under
this
EP.
S
That
also
extends
to
exceeding
statutory
Authority.
When
the
review
parties
approve
those
changes,
the
decision
was
arbitrary
and
capricious
when
those
few
bodies
chose
to
base
their
decision
on
not
wanting
to
take
another
bite
at
the
Apple
and
considering
this
a
relitigation
rather
than
addressing
the
substantive
evidence
on
the
record
regarding
design
review
specifically
Vladimir.
M
W
S
When
the
design
Review
Committee
approved
the
design
review,
one
Committee,
Member
I
believe
who
motioned
to
approve
made
the
comment
that
she's
been
following
this
all
along,
and
this
is
the
first
that
she's
ever
heard
of
the
neighborhood
having
concern
for
the
experience
inside
the
shelter
that
makes
it
clear
that
she's,
relying
on
outside
media
reports,
as
opposed
to
actually
reading
the
record.
M
M
S
Similarly,
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
level,
they
refused
to
look
at
the
case
before
them,
rather
than
reviewing
the
cup
separately
and
only
where
the
circumstances
have
substantially
changed,
such
as
the
police
station
being
removed.
Have
we
resurrected
the
prior
recommendations
with
regard
to
unlawful
procedure,
there
were
significant
due
process
concerns
generated
by
the
the
multiple
appellant
situation
and
the
lack
of
clear
notifications
regarding
that,
including
the
lack
of
a
timely
response
to
requests
for
clarification.
S
The
substantially
impacted
our
ability
to
provide
written
comment
and
supporting
information
by
any
deadlines
before
the
open
record
closed
at
planning
and
zoning,
and
with
regard
to
relying
on
substantial
competent
evidence
again,
this
really
is
primarily
to
the
fencing
materials,
as
well
as
decisions
approving
changes
to
the
previously
approved
design,
which
includes
both
the
interior
and
the
exterior
of
the
building.
S
With
regard
to
some
of
the
things
that
I
just
heard
in
rebuttal,
I
would
ask
with
regard
to
the
family
intake
being
pre-scheduled
at
all
times,
what
about
families
coming
and
going
through
the
security
checkpoint
during
their
daily
business?
That
would
also
require
an
escort
and
a
prior
written
response.
I
believe
the
applicant
clarified
that
the
e-store
is
only
provided
to
exit
the
family,
shelter
and
I
would
reiterate
that
there's
no
pedestrian
infrastructure
provided
to
get
to
the
adult
security
intake
entrance
foreign.
S
The
conditions
that
Council
imposed
that
required
site
redesign
required
the
removal
of
interior
daylight
and
what
conditions
required.
The
removal
of
the
covered
bike
parking
in
the
family
by
parking
access,
I'm
happy
to
stand
for
any
additional
questions
and
have
my
legal
counsel
available.
If
you
have
more
in-depth
questions
on
finding
a
bear.
O
B
Remember,
council,
member
your
we
actually
are
getting
a
notice
that
your
bandwidth
is
low
and
I'm.
Having
trouble
understanding
you
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
wouldn't
just
mind
turning
off
your
camera
to
see,
if
that's
a
fix
for
now
get
back.
O
You
hear
me
now:
yes,
okay,
so
restate
this
and
I
understand
if
this
wasn't
possible
because
of
other
legal
issues,
and
if
that's
the
case,
please
let
me
know,
but
was
there
any
communication
on
the
design
outside
the
formal
design
review
process?
In
other
words,
was
there
ever
an
opportunity
where
the
neighbors
got
together
with
those
who
are
who
are
trying
to
do
the
shelter
and
had
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
and
and
look
at
the
design
did
that
occur?.
S
A
J
J
S
J
S
So
city
law
includes
a
codification
that
design
reviews
should
act
to
minimize
impact
on
adjoining
residential
users,
but
they
did
not
take
up
that
question
of
fence
material
or
soundproofing
at
all.
The
only
discussion
was
well.
The
prior
use
had
a
cardboard
compactor
that
must
have
been
pretty
loud,
so
this
seems
fine.
It
didn't
take
into
account
any
times
of
use
or
impact
on
residences
or
anything
like
that.
M
In
that
mayor,
just
a
quick
follow-up
to
that.
Thank
you
for
the
for
your
answer.
That's
a
good
answer.
It
sounds
like
our
city
staff
is
saying
that
it
meets
code
requirements,
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
if
there
was
a
law
that
was
broken
if
it
meets
the
code
requirements.
M
Great
and
man
mayor
the
final
question
there
and
again
appreciate
the
answers.
This
point
was
brought
up
at
planning
and
zoning
and
at
planning
and
zoning
with
the
initial
appeal.
S
Mr
Matthew's
appeal
focused
exclusively
on
soundproofing,
and
so
most
questions
on
soundproofing
were
directed
to
him
because
of
the
the
delay
and
notification
of
that
the
appeals
would
be
combined.
We
were
only
able
to
submit
written
comments
by
the
late
hearing
deadline
and
the
presentation
periods
were
shortened,
so
I
had
not
presented
orally
on
the
STC
ratings
during
the
neighborhood
presentation,
and
it's
not
clear
that
the
written
comments
have
been
read
when
I
asked
to
reply
to
the
question
regarding
soundproofing
I
was
denied.
P
M
I
think
that
there's
going
to
be
a
question
from
Council
Members
about
if
there's
additional
conditions
or
additional
requests,
and
so
my
question
is
if
we
were
going
to
deny
the
appeal,
but
there
were
some
changes
that
we
wanted
to
put
forward.
How
would
we
go
about
doing
that.
F
Yeah
Madam
mayor
Council,
Pro,
Tim,
Halliburton,
I'll,
just
I'll
read
directly
from
code
and
then,
if
legal
wants
to
advise
additionally,
that
would
be
fine
too
so
code
says
specifically.
If
error
is
found,
the
review
body
decision
may
be
reversed
or
modified.
F
M
AB
AB
J
Yeah
kind
of
follow
up
on
that.
So,
if
I'm
hearing
you
right
Rob,
we
could
find
that
while
there
is
no
error
in
the,
perhaps
we
would
find
that
there's
no
error
in
the
decision
of
the
design
Review
Committee.
J
We
also
believe
that,
in
order
to
uphold
the
charged
to
minimize
the
impacts
on
those
surrounding
neighborhood,
we
could
further
add
conditions.
B
L
This
particular
application
has
been
very
difficult
for
our
entire
community
and
it's
been
difficult
because
there's
a
lot
of
hurt
and
a
lot
of
fear
and
a
lot
of
concern
from
people
on
all
seven
of
the
sides
of
this
issue.
It's
not
a
two-sided
thing.
L
L
The
most
important
rule
that
we
have
is
that
we
don't
make
decisions
based
on
who
said
something
or
why
we
think
they
may
have
said
it.
We
make
decisions
based
on
what's
given
to
us
and
the
rules
we're
supposed
to
follow,
and
that
was
the
basis
of
my
vote
last
time
and
it's
the
basis
of
my
motion
here.
We
have
an
appeal
standard
and
we
are
to
review
a
committee
below
that
has
both
expertise
and
a
lot
more
time
with
this
application
than
we
see,
and
so
we
review
it
narrowly.
L
L
I,
don't
see
the
kinds
of
errors
that
amount
to
reversing
both
that
expertise
and
also
kind
of
running
against
the
grain
of
the
organized
system
that
we
have
I,
don't
see
a
clear
violation
of
a
procedure.
I,
don't
see
a
disregard
of
the
facts
by
that
committee.
I
think
I
think
it
suffered
through
the
facts,
along
with
everyone
else
and
spent
a
lot
of
time.
L
What
I
do
see
and
I
saw
last
time
was
a
lot
of
disagreement
over
little
things,
but
really
because
there's
fundamental
disagreement
over
big
things:
I,
don't
think
our
society
is
broken
and
I,
don't
think
it
will
be
broken.
As
long
as
we
remember
that
people
can
disagree
about
things
while
still
being
honorable
and
genuine
and
pure
in
their
intentions
for
their
community
and
I,
expect
that
this
vote
may
not
be
unanimous.
I'm
not
going
to
ascribe
my
colleagues
poor
decision
making
or
bad
intentions.
It's
a
reasonable
honest
disagreements,
so
I'll
be
voting.
L
Even
though
I
had
concerns
a
long
time
ago.
I'll
be
voting
to
affirm
the
decision
made
here
in
our
design,
Review
Committee,
because
I
don't
see
any
errors
and
I,
don't
I,
don't
believe
it's
right
to
try
to
put
my
thumb
on
the
needle
in
any
other
way,
I
expect
to
hear
some
suggestions
for
things
to
consider,
adding
and
I'm
very
open
to.
M
Mary
I'm
not
going
to
add
too
much
I,
think
that
that
was
very
eloquently
said.
I
would
would
note
that,
like
I,
don't
think
it's
my
job
to
go
up
here
and
to
nitpick
and
to
change
things
around
and
I
also
have
expectations
that
this
is
going
to
be
built.
That's
going
to
be
used,
we
have
a
check-in
procedure
and
it's
probably
going
to
actually
change
a
little
bit
over
time.
There's
going
to
be
safe,
Sharps
areas
that
get
moved
to
a
different
spot.
That
makes
more
sense.
M
There's
going
to
be
a
dumpster
that
moves
from
here
to
there,
like
that's
just
the
nature
of
how
Places
work,
and
you
don't
really
know
that
until
you
move
in
so
you
do
the
very
best
that
you
can.
You
have
a
very
competent
design,
Review,
Committee
and
planning
and
zoning,
and
you
do
the
very
very
best
that
you
can
and
then
you
also
know
that
there's
going
to
be
some
things
that
are
going
to
have
to
change
and
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
flexibility.
M
That
goes
with
that
over
time,
and
it
could
be
that
we
change
the
direction
of
intake
over
here
and
we
change
that
intake
later
and
we've
created
mechanisms
in
our
conditions
to
have
those
ongoing
conversations.
So
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
concern.
There.
I
would
request
cover
bike
parking.
Here's.
Why
I
actually
think
that
in
our
our
code,
it
defines
long-term
bicycle
parking
and
a
recommendation
that
long-term
bicycle
parking,
which
would
basically
be
anywhere
that
would
be
out
overnight,
be
covered,
so
I
actually
think
it
is.
J
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
appreciate,
motion
council
member
of
agent,
especially
appreciate
it,
given
where
we
were
on
the
original
decision
where
you
were,
and
your
recognition
like
mine,
that
wants
a
body
like
us
makes
a
decision.
Our
job
from
there
forward
is
to
figure
out
if
that
decision
still
meets
the
legal
requirements
of
of
being
a
proper
decision
and
I
think
you
outlined
why,
in
fact,
this
does
really
agree
with
you
on
all
of
those
points.
J
I
would
make
one
additional
request
and,
and
just
to
add
to
council
member
council
president
pro
tems
request
to
add
covered
bicycle
parking.
For
me.
It's
also
true
that
we
were
presented
with
a
plan
that
showed
covered
bicycle
parking.
It's
true
that
we
didn't
require
it
as
a
condition.
I
think
it
was
my
expectation
that
it
would
be
there
because
that's
what
we
saw.
Similarly,
as
we
talked
about
the
fencing,
my
memory
is
and
I
don't
have
my
notes
with
me
tonight.
I
did
look
through
them
over
the
weekend
and
I
believe.
N
J
It
was
talked
about,
it
wasn't
talked
about
merely
as
offense,
but
sometimes
as
a
wall,
and
in
my
my
estimation
and
my
expectation,
it
was
being
presented
as
something
that
would
provide
not
just
visual
privacy,
but
also
some
sounded
attenuation.
So
I
would
ask
and
I
don't
know
what
the
right
level
is.
That's
why
I
asked
these
questions
I
would
ask
that
we
also
add
a
condition
to
request
that
staff
research.
D
Madam
mayor
I
appreciate
everyone's
discussion
tonight
man.
This
has
been
a
long
haul
and
I
appreciate
the
careful
attention
to
all
of
the
conditions
that
we
put
on
the
original
application.
D
I
appreciate
the
specific
recommendations
to
minimize
impacts
to
the
neighbors,
and
you
know
most
of
all,
I
appreciate
our
design,
Review
Committee
and
our
planning
zone
and
zoning
committee
who
have
been
through
this
process
with
us
with
the
community
and
with
the
applicants
and
appellants
throughout.
It's
been
a
lot
of
work.
It's
been
a
lot
of
reading
a
lot
of
reading
minutes,
which
is
not
always
my
favorite,
but
there's
always
a
lot
of
wisdom
there
and
a
lot
of
care
that
people
take
so
I.
D
Did
they
get
every
single
thing?
Perfect?
No
because
we're
human-
and
we
don't
get
every
single
thing
perfect,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
care,
a
lot
of
expertise
and
I
thought
humorously
a
lot
of
frustration
with
the
city
council
at
times
which
I
kind
of
laughed
out
loud
about
as
I
was
reading
the
minutes,
especially
with
our
Planning
and
Zoning
Commissioners,
so
yeah
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
thought
it
was
very
well
put
very
well
said
and
I
couldn't
never
have
said
it
better
like
that
was
well
crafted.
B
O
Well,
thank
you
and
I
I,
just
Echo.
You
know.
We've
we've
been
down
this
road
before
I
I
have
a
couple
of
thoughts.
You
know
it's
been
almost
a
year
since
we
sat
through
a
lot
of
hearings
on
this
issue
and
I
said
then
and
I'll
say
it
again.
I
I
do
believe
that
we
need
non-profits
in
our
community
and
we
need
more
of
them
to
do
this
kind
of
work,
because
we
need
people
who
care
about
Humanity.
O
You
know
at
the
time
of
the
the
decision.
Last
year,
I
I
didn't
vote
for
the
shelter
to
move,
because
I
didn't
think
that
we
could
put
enough
conditions
on
it
to
mitigate
the
adverse
impacts
and
we're
here
still
conditioning
and
I.
Think
we're.
You
know.
O
The
city
council
as
a
whole
is
trying
to
do
the
best
that
we
can
do
to
make
this
work
under
the
circumstances,
but
I'm
going
to
vote
no,
because
I
think
we
I
think
that
we've
missed
an
opportunity
here
and
I'll
use
the
Royal
we
to
work
together
on
this
I
mean
we've
now
had
three
government
bodies
that
have
looked
at
this,
and
yet
it
doesn't
seem
like
the
people
who
are
trying
to
work
this
out
ever
talk
to
one
another
and
I
think
we
need
to
learn
from
that.
O
J
All
right,
thank
you,
could
I
just
make
one
last
comment.
I
did
not
ask
to
add
a
condition
on
the
pavement
markings
or
entrance
directions
to
the
intake
locations,
because
we
already
have
a
condition
on
that
and
I
expect,
while
they're
not
part
of
design
that
they
will
be
met.