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A
A
Present
great,
thank
you.
So
first
up,
we've
got
Nikki
hellenkamp
today
to
talk
with
us
about
a
package
of
tenant
protection
and
potential
ordinances
for
tenant
protection.
This
has
been
a
work
in
progress.
I
want
to
thank
councilmember,
Hallie
Burton
for
his
partnership
in
this
and
tonight
today.
Our
goal
with
this
is
to
kind
of
walk
through
with
each
of
you
some
possible
ordinances
that
would
protect
renters
here
in
Boise.
You
know,
and
one
of
them
in
particular
I
want
to
point
out.
A
We
saw
in
the
news
gosh
it
was
probably
a
month
ago,
five
weeks
ago,
the
apartment
set
on
a
Friday
tenants
were
told
they
needed
to
leave,
and
that's
just
one
example
of
what
you
know
could
potentially
be
many,
but
it
really
begged
the
question
again
as
we
were
working
on
this.
What
can
a
city
do
to
make
sure
that
renters
have
some
protections
built
into
the
agreements
they
have
with
landlords
so
that
we
don't
find
ourselves?
A
Notifications
and
I
just
think
that
that's
one
of
the
examples
that
over
the
years
many
of
us
have
been
concerned
about,
and
so
today,
Nikki
is
presenting
several
different
options
that
together,
we
believe
could
provide
some
protections
to
our
residents
to
make
sure
that
you
know
people
are
saying
house,
we
have
affordable
homes
for
everyone
and
then
those
that
have
them
have
some
certainty
as
to
how
things
would
wind
down.
If
they
do.
C
Great
thanks
very
much
mayor
members
of
council,
again
I'm
Nikki,
Olivier,
helenkamp
I
work
on
housing
issues
in
the
mayor's
office,
thanks
so
much
for
the
chance
to
be
with
you
all
today
and
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
as
our
community
has
grown
and
changed,
we've
seen
the
market
change
significantly
for
renters
in
Boise.
I.
Don't
think
it's
news
to
anyone
here
that
rents
have
increased
substantially
in
recent
years
and
that
low
vacancy
rates
have
resulted
in
a
lack
of
options.
Even
for
tenants
who
may
have
the
means
to
pay.
C
C
So,
even
given
these
restrictions,
there
are
some
actions
that
the
city
could
take
in
an
effort
to
provide
additional
consumer
protections
for
tenants
in
Boise
and
which
would
build
on
the
work
that
this
Council
has
done
in
the
past,
including
the
city's
rental
application
fee
ordinance
and
that's
why
we're
bringing
you
this
package
of
protections
to
consider?
C
There
are
four
policies
that
we'll
discuss,
which
would
prohibit
retaliatory
conduct
would
require
that
tenants
be
provided
with
a
notice
of
landlord
and
tenant
responsibilities,
would
prohibit
discrimination
based
on
a
potential
tenant
source
of
income
and
would
require
that
landlords
provide
relocation,
assistance
when
tenants
are
being
displaced
because
a
building
is
being
demolished
or
substantially
renovated
or
because
its
use
is
being
changed.
You
may
notice
that
the
late
fee
cap
that
you
discussed
as
a
council
previously
isn't
included
here.
C
That's
because
the
legislature
took
action
in
this
space,
this
last
session
by
passing
legislation
that
fees
be
reasonable
and
that
they
be
disclosed
in
a
lease
agreement.
I'll
also
say
that
this
is
in
no
way
an
exhaustive
list.
Instead,
it's
meant
to
be
a
starting
place
for
a
conversation,
and
we
don't
have
ordinance
drafts
at
this
stage.
We're
really
just
looking
in
this
work
session
for
a
policy
discussion
and
for
some
feedback
and
direction
from
Council
on
these
ideas.
C
So
for
this
first
one
around
prohibiting
retaliatory
conduct.
The
goal
here
is
that
tenants
can
do
things
like
requesting
repairs
and
raising
safety
concerns
without
fear
of
retaliation.
This
kind
of
prohibition
would
simply
state
that
renters
are
able
to
bring
forward
these
types
of
concerns,
make
repair
requests,
become
a
member
of
a
community
resident
Association
and
retain
counsel
without
fear
of
retaliation,
and
when
we're
talking
about
retaliation,
that's
specifically
in
the
form
of
termination
or
non-renewal
of
tenancy
rent
increases
or
decreases
in
Services.
C
If
any
of
that
language
sounds
familiar
to
you,
it
may
be
because
it's
from
the
Idaho
manufactured
home
residency
act
which
has
explicitly
provided
these
protections
to
residents
of
mobile
home
parks
in
Idaho
since
1980.,
especially
in
a
tight
rental
market,
tenants
May
hesitate
to
take
actions
that
they
fear
could
be
viewed
negatively
by
their
landlords,
such
as
requesting
repairs
or
voicing
concerns,
and
this
type
of
provision
also
benefits
landlords.
C
I'll
pause
here
and
say
that
with
this
protection
and
several
of
the
others
included
here,
some
of
these
are
things
that
landlords
in
our
community
are
already
providing
right,
and
so
the
goal
here
really
is
to
standardize
that
these
are
basic
things
that
any
tenant
should
be
able
to
expect.
So
many
landlords
in
our
community
already
provide
this
in
the
form
of
a
resident
handbook
or
some
other
version,
but
essentially
the
goal
here
would
be
that
all
parties
know
their
rights
and
responsibilities
when
entering
into
a
landlord-tenant
relationship.
C
C
It
can
also
mean
that
tenants
may
not
be
aware
of
what
is
required
of
them,
for
example,
the
amount
of
notice
that
they're
required
to
give
when
deciding
not
to
renew
their
lease.
In
addition,
we
do
have
new
legislation,
for
example
the
LIE
mentioned
earlier.
That
requires
that
fees
be
disclosed
in
a
lease
agreement
that
tenants
and
landlords
may
or
may
not
be
aware
of.
So.
C
Okay,
the
next
one
on
the
list
is
prohibiting
source
of
income
discrimination,
and
the
goal
here
would
be
that
prospective
tenants
who
meet
a
landlord's
rental
criteria
can
secure
housing,
regardless
of
their
source
of
income.
This
would
prohibit
discrimination
based
on
a
potential
tenant's,
lawful,
verifiable
source
of
income.
This
is
inclusive
of
Child
Support
retirement
programs,
veterans
benefits
and
public,
private
or
non-profit
administered
benefits,
including,
for
example,
the
emergency
rental
assistance
program
that
has
been
facilitated
through
the
Housing
Authority
in
recent
years
and
Section
8
vouchers.
It
does
not.
C
This
would
not
require
a
landlord
to
rent
to
an
applicant
who
does
not
otherwise
qualify
for
tenancy,
but
does
prohibit
a
denial
that
is
solely
based
on
the
source
of
income
and
just
for
some
context.
Over
125
cities
have
implemented
some
kind
of
source
of
income
discrimination
ordinance
as
have
21
States,
including
Utah,
North,
Dakota
and
Colorado,
although
some
are
broader
and
only
provide
to
tenants
using
public
assistance
such
as
a
Section
A,
voucher,.
C
Okay
and
the
last
one
here
is
relocation
assistance.
The
goal
here
is
that
tenants
receive
assistance
if
they're
being
displaced
due
to
demolition,
substantial
renovation
or
a
change
of
use
of
the
concepts
we're
discussing
today.
This
is
a
newer
one
in
terms
of
a
city
playing
a
role
in
it
and,
as
a
result,
there's
a
significant
opportunity
for
feedback
from
you
and
from
stakeholders,
including
tenants
and
property
owners
and
managers
to
craft
an
option
here
that
really
strikes
the
right
balance
for
Boise.
C
Our
community,
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
has
seen
recent
cases
where
tenants
have
been
displaced,
and
we
have
seen
examples
where
tenants
specifically
have
been
displaced
by
development.
Often,
these
are
long-time
tenants
who
may
need
more
than
the
30
days
that
landlords
are
currently
required
to
give
in
terms
of
notice
to
secure
a
new
housing
option.
C
If
this
is
something
that
the
council
would
like
to
see
additional
work
on,
we
would
and
I'll
say
this
about
any
of
these
issues
that
we
would
certainly
engage
in
some
deeper
stakeholder
engage
engagement
to
work
toward
crafting
an
option
that
would
right
size
this
for
Boise
and
for
Idaho
law,
and
so
in
terms
of
next
steps,
with
the
direction
of
counsel
that
additional
stakeholder,
Outreach
I'll,
say.
C
We've
done,
we've
had
some
some
initial
conversations
with
our
with
the
Landlord
Association,
with
property
management
company
and
with
groups
that
work
closely
with
tenants,
but
wanting
to
come
to
you
for
your
feedback
without
before
moving
forward
with
with
those
discussions
and
for
your
thoughts
on
key
policy
areas
that
we
would
really
need
to
dig
into
with
those
groups.
So
with
that,
I
can
stand
for
any
questions
you
might
have.
D
Been
married,
a
couple
questions
I,
might
start
off
just
by
adding
a
little
bit
more
context
specifically
to
the
source
of
income.
That's
been
one
of
the
ones
that
I've
sort
of
had
my
eye
on
pushing
forward.
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
see
by
a
lot
of
members
in
our
community
is
they
apply
for
a
variety
of
different
financial
assistance.
D
Maybe
a
Section
8
vouchers,
they're
very
difficult
to
get,
and
eventually
they
get
one
and
it's
a
really
big
day
and
it's
a
big
opportunity
when
they
get
that
voucher
and
they
have
assistance
to
get
into
a
house
and
then
what
they
find
is
that
they
go
around
and
they
start
trying
to
apply
for
a
place
to
rent
and
they're
oftentimes
turned
away
with
the
explanation
being
we
don't
take
vouchers
or
we
don't
take
this
form
of
form
of
income,
and
so
folks,
who
have
been
on
the
waiting
list
to
get
a
voucher,
approved
folks
who've,
desperately
in
need
of
housing,
are
now
going
to
places
and
finding
that
they're
turned
away.
D
For
no
other
reason,
except
for
that
that
particular
space
does
not
take
those
types
of
vouchers
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
you
know
if
this
was
Direction
Council
would
want
ahead.
That
we
would
need
to
make
sure
that
we
were
doing
would
be
working
with
some
of
our
partners
to
make
sure
that
there
was
education
for
how
do
you
actually
work
with
vouchers?
You
know
what
is
the
opportunity
to
do
this
and
who
are
the
partners
that
are
out
there
that
can
make
this
possible.
D
So
it's
definitely
something
that
we
see
a
real
need
in
the
community
and
as
Nikki
mentioned,
there
are
communities
across
the
country.
Who've
implemented
similar
things,
and
they
have
seen
them
be
effective,
both
in
getting
people
in
the
house,
but
also
getting
people
into
more
diverse
neighborhoods,
so
areas
of
of
mixed
income
or
higher
income
that
they
may
not
be
able
to
get
into
otherwise.
And
then
all
the
benefits.
D
So
I
just
want
to
offer
that
as
just
a
little
bit
of
extra
context
to
that
particular
one
I
did
have
question
about
the
relocation
assistance
and
the
question
about
the
relocation
assistance
is
kind
of.
How
do
you
see
that
playing
out
as
far
as
what
is
the
financial
assistance
look
like?
Is
that
a
month
is
that
two
to
three
months,
you
know
where?
Where
are
we
sort
of
seeing
that
play
out?
As
far
as
an
example
goes.
C
Sure
Madam
mayor
councilmember,
Holly
Burton
something
we've
seen
as
an
approach
to
take
on
that
is
to
essentially
look
at
the
cost
of
moving,
which
frequently
is
your
first
month's
rent,
your
security
deposit
and
then
your
actual
moving
costs
so
being
able
one.
One
approach
that
you
know
you
could
take
is
to
say:
let's
take
a
look
at
median
rents
for
our
area
and
then
tie
tie
a
relocation
assistance
amount
to
those
median
rents.
That
is
one
possible
way
of
doing
that.
E
So
I
have
two
questions:
I
think
I'll
start
with
just
an
over
arting
comment:
I,
really
love
all
of
these
suggestions.
I
think
these
are
really
great
when
we're
thinking
about
trying
to
provide
better
protections
for
tenants.
E
I
wanted
to
just
point
out
one
one
issue
when
I
think
about
the
the
first
one
and
the
third
one,
the
retaliation
and
the
income
discrimination
pieces
I
think
it's.
These
are
both
great
protections
to
help
damper
some
of
concerns.
I
think
in
these
areas,
but
I
do
just
want
to
note
that,
especially
for
those
individuals
from
a
lower
socioeconomic
status,
the
power
imbalance
that
still
exists
between
a
landlord
and
a
tenant
and
in
those
instances
where
there
is
retaliation
or
there
may
be
discrimination.
E
There
is
a
dearth
of
support
for
Legal
Services
associated
with
those
particular
tenants,
and
so
I
would
encourage
us
as
part
of
this
process,
to
really
engage
Idaho
legal
aid
and
Intermountain
Fair
Housing
Council
on
these
issues,
because
it
has,
you
know
it's
a
high
burden
to
take
a
landlord
to
court
on
these
issues
and
to
prove
both
retaliation
and
income
discrimination,
especially
when
there's
an
opportunity
when
that's
just
solely
income
discrimination.
E
There
are
many
other
ways
to
decide
to
decline,
to
rent
to
an
individual,
especially
given
the
low
Supply
that
we
have
of
housing
right
now.
So,
though,
I
think
these
are
incredibly
important.
I
still
have
worries
that
we
we
need
even
further
protections
or
at
least
support
for
our
citizens
in
order
to
when
they
are
faced
with
retaliation
or
discrimination
on
these
on
these
lenses.
The
other
question
I
have
I
think
on
the
relocation.
E
Assistance
is,
at
least
in
the
materials
I
believe
that
the
Focus
right
now
has
been
on
providing
that
relocation
assistance
to
fixed
term
those
individuals
with
fixed
term
leases
and
I
have
concerns
on
that,
because,
at
least
in
my
experience
in
dealing
with
mass
evictions
and
representing
individuals,
we
have
a
history
here
in
in
Idaho
and
in
Boise,
in
particular,
of
a
significant
month-to-month
leases,
and
that
we
have
many
of
our
citizens
who
have
been
in
their
homes
for
20
plus
years,
even
who
have
been
on
a
month
to
month
lease
for
that
entire
period
of
time,
and
so
I
do
have
concerns
that
that
relocation,
assistance
is
limited
to
fixed
terminally,
says
that
we'll
either
see
an
increase
of
month-to-month
leases
or
we
will
be
having
lots
of
our
citizens
displaced
without
relocation.
E
F
I
have
comments
on
all
four,
so
if
it's
okay
with
you
I'll
just
walk
through
first
thank
you,
and
much
of
this
is
good
and
things
that
I'm
pretty
much
on
board
with,
but
just
ticking
through
the
list
in
the
retaliatory
conduct
suggestion
right.
Nobody
should
fear,
retaliation
and
retaliation
shouldn't
be
a
means
of
doing
business,
I'm
concerned
about
non-renewal
of
tenancy
being
an
element
just
because
it
does
seem
one-sided
to
force
landlord-tenant
relationship
for
potentially
years
and
years
and
years,
while
a
dispute
over
alleged
retaliation
is
being
solved.
F
In
my
mind,
a
landlord
or
a
tenant
should
be
able
to
walk
away
from
each
other
within
the
terms
of
their
agreement
at
any
time,
and
so
just
flagging
that
non-renewal
of
tenancy
kind
of
has
the
potential
to
Shackle
people
to
agreements
for
longer
than
they
intended
to
be
in
them.
So
flagging
that
one
I
had
a
comment
on
on
two
that
notices.
But
then
you
answered
it,
and
it
was
my.
F
You
know
the
notice
that
the
city
will
prepare
is
broader.
More
notification
of
Rights,
like
your
lease,
should
have
something
in
it
about
this
without
specific
terms,
so
you
answered
that
one
and
that's
great
the
source
of
income
discrimination
I
agree
with
Council
Pro
tem
Hallie
Burton,
really
completely
on
that.
The
only
thing
that
I
would
look
for
is
this
comes
back.
Is
that
legitimate
means
of
screening?
F
Tenants,
for
example
a
credit
check,
or
you
know,
other
tools
that
are
used
to
verify,
that
the
person
has
an
income
without
discriminating
as
to
the
source
of
that
income
seems
important
and
fair
for
landlords
to
do
I'm
really
uncomfortable
with
the
relocation
assistance.
It
just
makes
me
uncomfortable.
I,
don't
quite
know
how
it
would
work
like
is
the
city
going
to
create
a
cause
of
action
that
people
can
then
sue
for,
or
is
the
city
going
to
prosecute
people,
or
are
we
going
to
withhold
land
use
changes
in
order
to
enforce
it?
F
So
that's
kind
of
uncomfortable
for
me
and
then
you
know
each
situation
is
different
and
valuing
it
with
a
generic
formula
to
say
you
know,
here's
how
much
money
you're
entitled
to
is.
It
doesn't
feel
like
a
great
fit
so
I'm
still
very
uncomfortable
with
that
one.
But,
as
you
said,
a
lot
more
discussion
needs
to
happen.
I'll
add
to
councilmember
handy
case
comment.
F
We
heard
an
appeal
last
fall
from
an
assisted
living
facility
that
really
heightened
these
issues
for
us.
I
think
that
was
very
emotionally
challenging.
I
think
each
one
of
those
tenants
was
on
a
month-to-month
lease.
So
that's
important
and
then
the
kind
of
the
fifth
thing
to
think
about
is
whether
this
needs
to
apply
it
to
all
landlords.
Many
people
rent
their
basement
or
they
own
one
unit
or
they
rent
a
room
in
their
house
and
I'm.
F
G
Thank
you
so
much.
What
I
really
appreciate
about
this
is
that
we're
doing
this
on
the
front
end
and
we're
getting
a
lot
of
feedback,
and
you
can
see
that
we
all
have
lots
of
different
kinds
of
views
on
this.
So
much
of
this
makes
sense.
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
kind
of
like
a
well-da
moment.
Like
you
shouldn't,
you
should
be
discriminated
because
of
your
source
of
income.
I
do
agree
with
council
member
of
agent.
G
G
I
think
it
will
have
a
cost
to
the
tenant,
because
that
that
money's
got
to
come
from
somewhere,
so
it
it
may
end
up
hurting
the
tenant
in
a
way
that
I,
don't
think
is,
is
helpful
and
I'm
I'm
uncomfortable
about
the
city,
creating
that
sort
of
mandate,
so
I
want
to
put
that
on
the
record.
Thank
you.
H
Madam
mayor,
thank
you.
Miss
Helen
Kent,
for
putting
this
together.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
good
things
in
here.
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
a
solution,
but
I
would
just
maybe
Echo
some
of
the
sentiments
of
council
members,
baygent
and
willitz,
but
I
I.
Think,
as
the
city
was
dealing
with
some
conditional
use
permits
last
year
with
that
dealt
with
tenant,
display
displacement,
I
kept
questioning,
if
maybe
we
don't
have
the
landlords.
H
Maybe
the
city
has
some
liability
here
when
we're
approving
changes
of
uses
of
land
and
how
that
affects
tenants,
maybe
there's
a
role
for
the
city,
even
if
there
isn't
necessarily
A
will
to
compel
a
private
landowner
to
provide
some
relocation
assistance.
So
I
would
just
say
in
our
conversations
especially
around
when
we're
the
city
is
taking
an
active
role
like
in
a
conditional
use,
permit,
setting
and
there's
relocation.
Maybe
the
the
city
has
some
liability
there.
B
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
say,
I
appreciate
the
discussion,
a
lot
when
Nikki
came
to
us
several
weeks
ago
with
some
of
these
very
preliminary
ideas.
It
was
exciting
to
have
the
conversation
about
what
we
can
do
a
little
bit
better
and
it's
great
to
hear
everyone's
thoughts
on
the
ideas
that
she
presented
and
glad
that
everyone
had
thoughts,
came
prepared
and
has
some
really
good
discussions
so
that
we
can
go
forward
and
figure
out
what
makes
sense
for
us.
D
Then
Mary
I
actually
have
a
question
for
Nikki.
It
seems
some
of
the
the
bigger
concerns
are
on
our
last
one.
There,
the
relocation,
assistance
and
I
guess
in
my
mind,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
how
this
might
work
because
I
guess
I
didn't
when
I
originally
heard
it
I
didn't
really
think
that
much
about
the
landlord
paying
the
cost
I
thought
a
little
bit
more
about
the
developer,
paying
the
cost.
D
So
if
we
have
somebody
coming
in
and
we've
got
a
apartment,
complex
or
housing
unit,
that's
going
to
be
transformed
into
something
else,
and
that
comes
in
front
of
council.
It
seems
like
we
haven't
seen
it
very
often
where
the
landlord
would
be
the
one
that
would
be
responsible
for
helping
provide
that
relocation
systems
and,
more
so
often
with
the
developer.
Maybe
I'm,
not
remembering
that
correctly.
But
can
you
provide
any
sort
of
context
on
how
this
might
work
is
that
the
landlord
is
a
developer
and
what
types
of
situations
would
this
happen.
C
I
will
say
that,
if
we're
limiting
relocation,
assistance
specifically
to
situations
where
essentially
you've
got
tenants
who
are
being
displaced
by
development,
where
you've
got
demolition
change
in
use
as
or
significant
rehab,
that
it
is
likely
that
you're,
seeing
the
in
terms
of
who
would
be
responsible
for
payment
you're,
seeing
a
different
cast
of
characters
there
versus
a
situation
where
it's
simply
you
know
here,
I
have
this.
You
know
duplex
that
I
own
and
I'm
going
to
be
I.
C
You
know,
I
would
like
the
attendance
to
move
out
and
so
I'm
not
renewing
their
lease,
but
there's
no
there's
no
development
happening
associated
with
that.
So
I
think
it
is
something
we
can
absolutely
dig
in
a
little
bit
farther
on
there
yeah.
D
Kind
of
Mayor
of
just
following
up
there
yeah
I,
would
appreciate
that
because
I
think
that
there's
probably
a
variety
of
different
ways
that
it
that
it
could
work
out
and
I
think
specifically
about
some
of
the
cases
where
we've
had
landlords
we're
not
landlords.
We've
had
developers
volunteer
to
help
pay
for
some
relocation
assistance.
H
D
It
wasn't
the
landlord
in
the
process
that
was
actually
doing
that
it
was
the
developer
that
was
coming
in
and
changing
the
housing
complex
into
something
that
was
completely
different.
So
I
think
that
there's,
you
know
a
variety
of
different
situations
that
could
occur
there
and
us
trying
to
figure
out
like
what
is
the
goal
and
who
are
we
trying
to
actually
well?
We
know
who
we're
trying
to
help,
but
who
is
going
to
be
the
folks
who
might
be
providing
these
funds
would
be
helpful.
F
C
Madam,
mayor
council
member,
that's
a
great
question
and
I
think
that
as
we
as
we
look
at
the
definition
of
tenant
in
our
in
our
current
code,
that's
something
I've
had
some
conversations
with
legal
around
and
Rob
Lockwood's
behind
us.
So
he
can
correct
me
if
I
start
saying
things
that
aren't
right
as
a
non-lawyer.
D
Madam
mayor
I
think
that
there
is
direction
from
Council.
You
know
some
concerns
that
have
to
be
addressed
and
I
do
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
would
like
to
see
is
some
of
that
stakeholder
Outreach
to
try
to
figure
out.
D
A
I
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Madame
mayor
members
of
the
council,
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
I'll,
be
discussing
our
fiscal
year.
24
general
fund
situation
really
kind
of
beginning
the
conversation
that
we'll
be
having
over
the
next
couple
of
months,
we're
approximately
two
months
away
from
having
a
budget
to
formally
present
you,
but
there
will
be
discussions
between
then
in
terms
of
what
we'd
like
to
cover
today.
I
First
just
kind
of
do
a
broad
overview
as
to
what
we
seek
to
accomplish
through
the
annual
budget
process.
We'll
do
a
little
context,
setting
looking
at
the
fiscal
year,
23
adopted
budget,
we'll
look
at
expenditures
by
fund
expenditures
by
category
and
then
look
at
general
fund,
roof
really
hone
in
on
a
general
fund
and
look
at
revenues
and
expenditures.
Then
we'll
look
forward
a
little
bit
look
at
the
fiscal
year,
24
preliminary
forecast
and
then
discuss
some
some
next
steps.
I
So
in
terms
of
what
we
try
to
accomplish
through
the
annual
budget
process,
there's
two
I'd
say
primary
objectives.
The
first
is
to
ensure
that
funding
for
the
fiscal
year
aligns
with
our
current
values
and
priorities
and
then,
secondly,
to
resolve
any
differences
between
anticipated
revenues
and
expenditures.
I
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
when
we
do
develop
the
annual
budget,
we're
not
re
recasting
every
single
line
item
there
are
numerous
places.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
majority
of
of
the
budget,
particularly
in
the
general
fund,
is
dedicated
towards
ongoing
expenses
and
that's
primarily
people.
I
I
We
seek
to
ensure
that
we
have
sufficient
funds
available
to
support
planned
and
ongoing
costs,
as
we
do
that
it's
really
important
that
we
employ
a
multi-year
approach
and
ensure
that
any
adjustments
we
make
are
sustainable
over
time
and
again
to
adjust
the
cost,
the
revised
cost
for
ongoing
Services
each
year.
I
Looking
at
fiscal
year
23.
This
is
a
high
level
summary
of
expenditures.
By
fund.
You
can
see
the
general
fund
approximately
36
percent
of
our
overall
expense
of
862
million
Capital
funds
at
12,
Enterprise
funds
at
42
and
other
funds
at
10..
I
So
when
we
talk
about
the
general
fund,
that
36
percent
is
approximately
306
million
again
in
current
year
terms
and
the
general
fund
largely
accounts
for
governmental,
Services,
I,
think
Public,
Safety,
Parks
libraries
and
general
fund
primarily
supported
by
taxes,
our
Capital
funds,
representing
about
12
percent,
that
this
accounts
for
infrastructure
projects,
major
equipment
and
then
major
repairs
and
maintenance
projects
again
associated
with
our
general
governmental
functions.
I
Our
Capital
funds
are
primarily
supported
by
taxes,
but
also
by
development
impact
fees.
Our
Enterprise
funds
account
for
both
operating
and
capital
costs
for
our
airport,
geothermal,
solid
waste
and
water
renewal
funds.
It's
worth
noting
that
this
is
not.
We
don't
account
for
tax
tax
receipts
within
our
Enterprise
funds.
I
These
are
primarily
supported
by
service
users,
and
then
our
other
funds
make
up
approximately
10
of
our
current
year
budget
and
there's
numerous
categories
underneath
that
heading,
including
our
debt
service
fund,
risk,
Health,
housing
and
Fleet
on
our
kind
of
zoom
into
the
general
fund,
and
as
we
look
at
the
general
fund
in
fiscal
year,
23
property
tax
made
up
approximately
57
of
our
overall
revenues.
I
You
can
see
the
next
largest
category
is
departmental
revenue
at
10.
Departmental
revenue
is
primarily
two
things.
First
is
reimbursement
from
partners
that
we
have
and
we
provide
Public
Safety
Services
on
their
behalf,
so
that
would
include
like
the
Whitney
and
The
Knack
for
Fire
Protection
District,
the
airport
for
whom
we
provide
both
police
and
fire.
Services
BSU
is
another
significant
one.
I
There,
the
other
category,
that's
largely
accounted
for
within
departmental
revenue
is
Parks
and
Recreation
departmental
fees,
so
things
like
play,
camps,
golf
Idaho,
ice
world,
so
on
and
so
forth
you
can
see
sales
tax
makes
up
about
eight
percent
of
our
of
our
current
year.
Revenue.
One
thing
I'll
note
is
that
historically,
property
tax
represents
about
two-thirds
of
our
budget
in
fiscal
year
23.
I
It
was
a
little
bit
less
than
that,
and
that
was
primarily
attributable
to
the
fact
that
we
had
arpa
Revenue
in
fiscal
year
23,
as
well
as
a
high
degree
of
carry
forward
plan
savings
from
the
prior
fiscal
year
built
into
fiscal
year.
23..
I
As
we
look
at
these
categories,
I'll
just
speak
broadly
to
some
of
the
growth
considerations
and
a
property
tax
I'll
get
into
a
little
bit
more
property
tax,
where
we
are
limited
in
terms
of
what
we
can.
What
we
can
grow
by
and
I
will
note
that
the
rate
of
the
current
rate
of
inflation
exceeds
even
the
maximum
amount
of
increase
allowable.
I
As
we
look
at
sales
tax,
the
current
year
assumed
one
percent
growth
and
we
are
assuming
one
percent
growth
in
the
next
couple
of
years
as
well
that
one
percent
growth
is
really
attributable
to
legislation
that
was
passed
in
calendar
year.
2020
that
basically
changed
the
way
distributions
went
out
to
municipalities,
there's
a
rather
complex
distribution
formula
that
looks
at
cities
per
capita
distribution
and,
if
you're
above
or
below
that
per
capita
distribution,
it
determined
determines
your
allocation.
I
That
allocation
is
is
anticipated
to
result
in
one
percent
growth
for
us
next
year,
departmental
Revenue,
I'll,
note
that
is
under
review
and
also
note
that
that
category
has
basically
a
one
for
one
expenditure
offset
so
anytime,
there's
growth,
it
just
enables
us
to
you,
know,
collect
more
of
our
of
our
expenses.
I
We
cannot
generate
profit
within
that
category
and
there
are
also
elements
within
departmental
Revenue
that
are
considered
economically
sensitive
liquor
tax
for
fiscal
year
24
we
have
a
very
modest
growth
projected
development
fees
are
are
currently
under
review,
they're,
similar
to
departmental
revenue.
There
are
expenditure
offsets
within
that
category
and
we
would
also
consider
that
a
category
to
be
economically
sensitive,
it's
one
of
our
more
volatile
Revenue
categories
as
the
economy
shifts
both
up
and
down.
We
see
we
see
that
Revenue
category
respond
most
rapidly
carry
forward.
I
We
are
still
working
through
that
number
as
well
for
fiscal
year
24.
We
do
project
the
amount
of
carry
forward
that
we
include
in
the
fiscal
year
24
budget
to
be
less
than
was
included
in
fiscal
year
23
and
that's
primarily
attributable
to
more
aggressive
planning
for
Savings
in
fiscal
year,
23,
primarily
looking
at
our
vacancy
approach,
as
well
as
less
variance
in
some
of
our
Revenue
categories.
I
As
we
look
at
our
expenditures,
you
can
see
Personnel
made
made
up
in
the
current
year,
just
under
65
percent
of
overall
expenses,
maintenance
and
operation
being
our
next
next
largest.
Category
maintenance
and
operation
is
primarily
departmental,
non-personnel
type
services,
so
things
like
supplies,
utilities,
Professional
Services,
would
be
included
within
that
bucket.
I
Our
Capital
transfer
at
6.6
percent
I
mentioned
at
the
onset
of
the
presentation
that
we
account
for
our
Capital.
Our
governmental
functions
capital
projects
within
a
capital
fund.
We
do
an
annual
transfer
out
of
the
general
fund
into
that
into
that
fund.
Approximately
it's
about
13
million
dollars
in
the
current
year.
I
As
we
look
at
expenditures
by
Department,
you
can
see.
Public
Safety
makes
up
over
half
of
the
general
fund
budget
in
the
current
fiscal
year.
Parks
and
Recreation
makes
up
about
14
percent.
Some
of
our
support
departments
make
up
about
13
and
you
can
see
the
smaller
slices
of
the
pie
within
this
chart.
I
So
now
you
know
I,
guess
focusing
a
little
bit
more
on
fiscal
year,
24
I
guess.
The
first
thing
to
to
note
is
that
we
anticipate
being
in
a
positive
net
position
starting
the
year,
looking
at
our
existing
revenue
streams
and
our
existing
expenditure
categories,
and
that's
really
good
news.
I
Our
Baseline
assumption
is
that
we
would
take
the
three
percent
property
tax
increase,
that
that
is
just
a
baseline
assumption.
We
evaluate
that
assumption
each
year
and
the
final
recommended
approach
would
be
included
as
part
of
the
budget
process.
I'll
note
that
over
the
last
three
years
we've
averaged
under
two
percent
growth
fiscal
year
23
the
current
year
we
took
two
2.45
and
then
going
back
to
fiscal
year.
21
there
was
Zero
base
growth
in
that
category,
also
recognized
or
included
in
our
fiscal
year.
I
24
forecast
is
sales
tax
growth
from
quarter
three
and
quarter
four
in
the
prior
fiscal
year,
when
we
developed
the
current
fiscal
years
budget,
we
were,
it
was
unclear
to
us.
If
we
were
going
to
see
full
growth
in
Q3
and
Q4,
we
ended
up
seeing
that
growth
and
the
way
the
distribution
formula
works
that
basically
resets
our
base.
So
we
have
included
a
higher
growth
number,
a
higher
sales
tax
number
in
fiscal
year,
24
Productions
we've
looked
at
our
interest
earnings
due
to
you
know
recent
Market
changes.
I
We
think
that
we,
we
should
see
some
some
higher
levels
of
Interest
earnings,
also
looked
at
departmental
revenue
and
development
fees.
Again,
both
of
those
do
have
expenditure
offsets.
I
We
look
at
every
element
of
that
position
and
we've
also
accounted
for
the
impacts
of
the
most
recent
Collective
labor
agreement
for
police
and
fire.
As
we've
developed
and
departments
have
been
developing
their
fiscal
year
24
budget
recommendations.
There
was
a
1.5
percent
reduction,
Target
placed
on
mno
accounts.
Again,
those
are
those
non-personnel
accounts.
We
don't
anticipate
service
level
impacts
associated
with
that
reduction
Target.
I
It
was
more
of
a
right
sizing,
continued
right
size
and
we've
been
at
this
for
the
last
few
years
right
sizing
to
ensure
that
the
budgets
aren't
overly
high
and
we
we
set
them
at
the
right
level,
we've
as
part
of
that
right
size,
and
we
have
also
included
very
minimal
allowances
for
inflation.
There,
certainly
is
inflation,
that's
happening,
but
as
we
look
at
historical
spending
patterns
in
some
areas,
particularly
within
Department
budgets,
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
address
for
that
because
they
haven't
been
spending
it.
I
So
we're
going
to
reset
the
budget
again
in
other
areas.
You
know
where
it's
unavoidable,
such
as
insurance
software
fuel
things
like
that
we
most
certainly
are
addressing
inflation
within
fiscal
year,
24's
recommendation
as
we
look
at
this
and
I
mentioned
earlier,
that
we
take
a
multi-year
approach.
We
certainly
have
allowed
for
inflation
in
future
years
of
our
of
our
forecast.
I
I.
Think
the
last
the
last
piece
I'll
mention
on
on
this
slide
is
we
we've
taken
a
revised
approach
to
funding
vacancies?
I
We
have
realized
over
the
last
several
years
and
it
was
part
of
our
end
of
year
process
some
unallocated
savings
or
unallocated
funds
as
part
of
our
year-end
closeout
largely
attributable
to
vacancies.
So
in
years,
prior
we've
built
in
a
vacancy
Target
to
each
department
and
that
vacancy
Target
varies,
but
on
average,
that
vacancy
target
has
been
approximately
two
percent
we've
been
experiencing
vacancies
at
a
much
higher
rate
than
that
and
I'll
speak
to
that.
In
just
a
moment.
I
I
Again,
you
know
we
do
go
through
every
revenue
and
expenditure
category
as
we
go
through
revenues.
We
reflect
on
information
from
prior
year
activities
we
evaluate
current
year
Trends
and
look
at
of
any
available
economic
data
when
we
are
updating
position
costs,
including
those
from
police
and
fire
contract
negotiations,
we're
looking
not
only
at
base
salary
and
compensation,
but
we're
also
looking
at
benefit
costs.
Things
such
as
health
and
and
Percy
retirement
I
mentioned
that
we
do
update
costs
for
non-personnel
items.
I
We
look
very
very
closely
at
each
line
item
and
there
are
certain
items
where
the
city
might
have
limited
ability
to
control
things
like
fuel
utility
prices
and
software
increases.
We
also
adjust
certain
areas
where
we
have
formulaic
increases
or
formulaic
allocations
built
in
to
our
Baseline
assumptions.
Things
like
that
might
include
VRT,
where
we
assume
five
percent
of
property
taxes
are
allocated
to
that
purpose
and
our
cash
flow
Reserve,
which
assumes
eight
percent
of
our
an
adjusted
gross
number.
I
The
outer
years
of
our
forecast
currently
also
reflect
positive
figures,
as
we
look
at
our
current
currently
approved
expenditure
lines
are
currently
approved,
Personnel
count
and
our
current
revenue
streams.
I
There
are
numerous
things
that
could
impact
that
forecast,
especially
as
you
look
into
into
outer
years.
You
know,
first
and
foremost,
the
overall
economic
climate.
You
know
if
we,
if
and
when
we
have
a
recession,
it's
difficult
necessary
to
project
when
that
would
be.
You
know
when
you're
looking
at
a
10-year
time,
Horizon
further
legislative
impact
on
revenue
streams
such
as
property
tax
and
sales
tax
could
impact
our
future
year
position.
I
Some
recent
examples
of
that
include
legislation
whereby
not
the
full
growth
amount
was
allowed
to
be
included
as
part
of
our
annual
property
tax
calculation,
the
online
sales
tax
or
Wayfair
Revenue,
which
is
no
longer
slated
to
come
to
the
city.
The
treatment
of
urban
renewal
districts
as
it
relates
to
property,
tax
and
I
had
previously
mentioned
sales
tax
caps,
property
tax
growth
decisions
could
play
into
future
year,
funding
positions,
labor
costs
and
staff
growth
and
continued
inflation
as
well.
I
I'm,
going
to
now
speak
to
some
of
the
themes
that
I
think
we'll
be
discussing
over
the
coming
months.
First
I'll
focus
a
little
bit
on
property
taxes,
I
think
the
first
thing
to
to
note
on
property
taxes,
really
there's
there's
really
only
two
ways
that
year-over-year
receipts
can
increase
for
the
city.
The
first
would
be
a
base
increase
on
existing
payers,
and
there
is
a
cap
based
on
state
code
that
limits
municipalities
to
a
growth
of
up
to
three
percent.
I
Generally,
the
base
increase
on
property
tax
is
used
to
support
cost
increases
associated
with
currently
approved
or
existing
services.
The
other
way
that
property
taxes
can
increase
is
through
new
construction
and
annexation,
as
well
as
retiring
urban
renewal
districts.
So
when
new
growth
occurs,
new
developments
occur.
We
can
assess
property
taxes
on
those
that
is
basically
a
great
way
to
support
growth,
related
costs.
So,
as
growth
as
growth
happens,
new
property
taxes
are
assessed
and
you
can
keep
up
with
the
service
demands
associated
with
that
growth
and
things
like
police
fire,
Parks
maintenance.
I
As
examples
I
mentioned
earlier,
that
property
taxes
usually
represent
about
two-thirds
of
our
general
fund
revenues,
it's
historically
been
a
fairly
stable,
Revenue
Source
in
terms
of
once
the
budget
is
set
we
collect.
You
know
very
nearly
that
amount
very
close
to
that
amount.
I
I
will
note
that
while
it's
been
a
stable
Revenue
source
for
the
city,
there
has
been
significant
fluctuation
between
asset
categories
in
recent
years
and
we'll
be
talking
a
lot
about
that
throughout
this
budget
process
and
when
I
talk
about
fluctuation
I'm,
meaning
Burton
shift
between
or
from
commercial
to
residential
payers,
we've
seen
extreme
shift
over
the
last.
You
know
10
15
years
really
from
commercial
taxpayers
to
residential.
I
In
terms
of
impact
from
this
most
recent
legislative
session
on
property
taxes,
I
think
the
most
most
meaningful
was
house
bill.
292..
I
That
bill
will
reduce
property
tax
amounts
due
by
the
community
through
a
variety
of
sources,
one-time
State,
Surplus
funding
and
state
sales
tax
being
the
two
foremost
the
state
sales
tax
funding.
As
part
of
that
that
relief
that's
being
provided,
it
will
eliminate
the
online
sales
tax
that
was
being
sequestered
by
the
state,
otherwise
known
as
the
Wayfair
account
and
utilize
that
for
for
that
property,
tax
relief,
that
sales
tax
amount
was
otherwise
slated
to
start
coming
into
the
the
cities
beginning
next
fiscal
year.
I
The
relief
offered
by
House
Bill
292
is
not
expected
to
impact
city
property
tax
collections.
We
are
working
through
the
impact
on
individual
homeowners.
I
The
county
is
committed
to
getting
us
information
that
we
can
use
to
do
those
calculations
at
least
preliminary
information
within
the
next
week
and
we'll
start
working
on
the
average
homeowner
impact.
Also
as
part
of
House
Bill
92.
There
is
an
expanded
eligibility
for
the
circuit
breaker
program
that
that
bill,
increased
income
and
home
value
limitations.
So
we'll
be
interested
to
see
how
many
more
people
can
either
stay
or
take
advantage
of
that
program.
I
One
of
the
things
that
we
were
hoping
to
see
that
we
didn't
see
this
this
session,
but
maybe
in
a
subsequent
session,
would
be
some
changes
to
the
structure
for
property
tax
rebates.
You
may
recall
that,
as
last
as
part
of
the
last
session,
the
legislature
approved
a
bill
allowing
municipalities
to
provide
rebates
property
tax
rebates
to
Residents.
The
city
of
Boise
I
believe
was
the
only
city
in
the
state
to
take
advantage
of
that
program.
We're
currently
working
through
it.
I
There
were
some
elements
about
that
program
that
have
caused
some
confusion
that
we're
working
through
for
for
homeowners
and
caused
some
administrative
difficulties
again
we're
working
through
those
things,
and
we
might
hope
that
in
a
subsequent
session
we
might
see
some
changes
to
those
and.
A
Thanks
for
the
period
is
so
still
open.
This
is
a
program
that
we
took
on
we're.
The
only
city
in
the
state
that
did
it
was
something
I
really
wanted
to
see
was
to
be
able
to
give
a
local,
so
a
city
rebate
and
for
those
on
the
circuit,
breaker
and,
of
course,
I
hope
that
we
can
increase
the
number
of
folks
that
apply
for
the
circuit
breaker
at
the
county
level
in
the
future,
so
that
we
can
provide
them
a
rebate
too.
When
is
the
deadline
for
applications.
I
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Mayor
May,
1st
is
actually
the
deadline.
We've
been
tracking
the
applications
very
closely.
We
have
I
think
we've
surpassed
the
80
Mark
75
Mark,
we're
going
to
begin
canvassing
this
weekend
to
try
and
get
that
last.
25
percent
of
people
eligible
signed
up
for
our
rebate,
yeah.
A
And
I
really
really
appreciate
that
staff
has
put
together
a
door
knocking
plan
because
you're
right
so
there's
just
over
80
percent
now
of
those
that
currently
could
get
the
rebate
have
applied
for
the
rebate
at
the
city
level,
but
so
there's
still
almost
20
percent
of
folks.
A
That
could
get
it
from
us
that
aren't
and
our
staff
put
together
a
plan
to
knock
on
doors
to
let
residents
know
so
if
anybody
does
get
a
door
knock
and
they
say
they're
from
the
city
of
Boise,
and
they
want
to
talk
to
you
about
the
circuit
breaker
program.
It's
because
we
really
want
our
residents
to
get
that
rebate
if
they
qualify
for
it
to
help
with
affordability,.
I
Just
real
high
level
on
some
of
the
community
priority
areas
that
we've
talked
about
in
as
part
of
this
budget
cycle
and
prior
budget
Cycles,
Transportation
housing,
environment
and
economic
development.
As
we
look
at
Transportation,
this
isn't
everything,
but
we,
you
know,
expect
to
continue
funding
VRT
at
a
level
equal
to
five
percent
of
our
property
tax
budget.
That's
been
built
into
our
forecast,
housing
and
environment.
I
There
were
some
pretty
significant
one-time
investments
in
fiscal
year,
23
that
were
approved
by
the
city
council.
We
expect
that
some
of
those
Investments
to
carry
forward
into
fiscal
year
24
we're
also
evaluating
some
areas
where
there
may
be
targeted
needs
within
those
categories
within
Economic
Development.
We
also
expect
that
there
may
be
some
requests
as
part
of
the
upcoming
budget
process
around
the
priority
of
Public
Safety.
I
I
I
Stabilizing
the
workforce
has
been
a
topic
that
we've
talked
about
again
in
past
budget
Cycles,
we'll
note
that
Recruitment
and
Retention
has
been
a
challenge
given
the
current
landscape
and
in
some
areas
it
has
created
challenges
in
providing
the
desired
service
level
to
the
community.
I
We
continue
to
have
a
high
vacancy
rate
of
approximately
13
percent
city-wide,
just
over
10
percent
within
within
the
general
fund.
Note
that
the
city,
you
know
really
actively
strives
to
compensate
employees
fairly.
Promoting
you
know
both
retention
and
continuity
of
services,
while
also
responding
to
the
need
for
additional
resources.
As
the
community
expands-
and
you
know,
the
expansion
of
Staffing
levels
can
have
a
stabilization
effect
from
a
workload
standpoint
as
well.
D
I
Council,
member
of
the
the
prior
vacancy
rate
equated
to
approximately
two
percent
on
average.
The
revised
approach
is
we'll
we're
still
refining
the
numbers,
but
it's
something
much
greater
than
that
to
reflect
the
current
reality
of
vacancies.
So.
D
I
All
right,
council,
member
I
would
not
expect
that
we
would
really
ever
be
a
two
percent
again,
two
percent,
you
know.
So
what
we've
done
is
really
we've
evaluated
our
approach
and
we
had
an
approach
whereby
certain
departments
had
a
higher
vacancy
rate
and
certain
ones
had
a
lower
and
the
lived
experience
didn't
necessarily
show
that
you
know
our
vacancies
behaved
in
that
way.
I
So
we've
what
we've
done
is
we've
stepped
back
a
little
bit
and
said
all
right
where,
where,
where
are
we
in
total
and
we're
more,
you
know,
I
think
a
healthy
vacancy
rate
would
be.
You
know
four
or
five
percent,
so
you
know,
including
an
allowance
for
a
higher
level
of
vacancies,
would
allow
us
to
you
know
to
again
allocate
those
resources
more
proactively
and
acknowledge
the
reality
that
we're
currently
experiencing
or.
F
It
I
had
a
question
about
this
too
I
was
saving
it
for
the
end,
but
we're
on
it
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
correctly.
Historically,
we've
assumed
two
percent
vacancy
rate.
That
number
is
definitely
wrong
right.
Now,
our
we're
at
10
and
13
we're
going
to
go
to
a
department
level
vacancy
calculation
that
will
result
in
some
higher
number
of
vacancies,
and
then
here
comes
my
question
that
we
anticipate
being
accurate
in
the
future.
F
So
part
of
the
reason
I'm
asking
this
is
if
we
budgeted
for
a
10
vacancy
rate,
because
that's
what
we
have
now
and
then
the
job
market
changes
such
that
we
fill
vacancies
and
we're
back
down
to
two
or
three.
Whatever
city
council
has
stuck
with
that
budget.
The
next
year
is
going
to
be
out
of
money
all
over
the
place,
and
so
that's
my
concern
and
my
question
is:
how
is
that
being
handled?.
I
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
question
as
we
as
we
look
at
that
I.
Don't
think
it
would
be
prudent
for
us
to
assume
a
10
vacancy
rate
in
perpetuity
I
think
you
know,
assuming
a
vacancy
rate
of
approximately
four
to
five
percent.
I
You
know
a
very
healthy
vacancy
rate
in
terms
of
our
outer
year,
forecast
is,
is
probably
where
we
ought
to
be,
and
I
I
would
suggest
that
we
look
at
that
vacancy
rate
for
the
most
immediate
fiscal
year,
much
in
the
same
manner
that
we
looked
at
property
taxes
where
we
look
at
our
current
situation
and
base
the
most
most
immediate
year,
based
on
our
current
situation.
F
I
think
that
answers
my
my
worry
I
know
you
can
tell
me
not
to
be
worried
about
it,
but
My
worry
is
that
we
set
a
vacancy
rate,
call
it
four
and
a
half
percent
and
then
the
economic
Market
changes
such
that
we
hire
everybody.
And
then
hypothetically
we
have
a
vacancy
rate
of
zero.
Well,
we've
budgeted
for
four
and
a
half
percent
vacancies.
So
if
we
spent
that
money
in
other
places
right
so
the
next
budget
that
comes
around
is
now
short
by
the
value
of
four
and
a
half
percent
am.
I
I
Council,
member
mechanically
I
think
that
is
correct.
I
mean
I
think
that
that
that
that
certainly
mathematically
Could
Happen.
In
our
experience
we
have
never
seen
a
vacancy
rate
even
at
two
percent.
Okay,
you
know
with
the
number
of
employees
that
we
have
across
this
organization.
There
is
always
going
to
be
turnover,
retirements
things
of
that
nature
that
are
gonna,
keep
that
number
up,
but
you
know
doing
some
some
some
research
looking
at
what
a
healthy
vacancy
rate
number
is
even
at
five
percent.
F
A
And
that's
a
that's,
a
an
important
question
and
something
to
be
clear
about.
We
wanted
to
do
this
because
we
knew
I
mean
historically
like
for
a
long
time.
It's
been
two
percent,
but
that's
just
not
real
reflective
of
the
world
back
in
the
day
or
today,
and
so
then
you
had
all
these
resources
taxpayer
dollars
that
weren't
being
leveraged
because
it
was
assumed
the
vacancy
rate
was
two
percent.
A
So
we
asked
the
budget
team
to
come
up
with
a
safe,
realistic,
smart
and
reflective
of
you
know
the
world
in
recent
past
and
expectations
of
the
future
vacancy
rate,
so
that
we're
not
swirling
away
taxpayer
resources
and
have
more
flexibility
either
to
invest
them
for
the
community
or
not
to
collect
them.
If
we
believe
it's
not
necessary.
I
Looking
at
growth,
which
has
been
a
a
trend
in
the
theme
that
we've
been
looking
at
in
in
past
budget
Cycles,
you
know
as
as
the
region
as
the
state
and
as
our
city
expand.
So
does
our
service
demand
upon
the
city?
I
You
can
see.
You
know
the
population
growth
since
2019
within
the
city
of
Boise
of
just
over
three
percent
within
Ada
County.
You
know
nine
percent
that
Ada
County
growth
number
has
been
included
here,
because
many
much
of
the
service
demand
that
we
see
as
a
city
is
attributable
not
just
to
growth
within
the
city
of
Boise,
but
also
within
the
region.
I
In
terms
of
response
to
inflation,
I
think
we
we've
all
seen
that
the
cost
of
you
know
nearly
all
goods
and
services
continues
to
rapidly
increase,
as
we,
you
know,
develop
our
recommendations
for
fiscal
year.
2024
we'll
be
seeking
to
address
the
rising
costs
of
capital
projects
in
some
instances
of
one-time
funding,
evaluating
various
compensation
options
to
assist
us
in
our
recruitment
retention
efforts
and
ensuring
we
provide
high
quality
services
to
the
community.
I
We
have
limited
growth,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
within
our
mno
categories
within
the
general
fund
in
fiscal
year
24,
but
we've
allowed
for
growth
in
our
outer
year
forecast,
knowing
that
we
probably
can't
hold
it
this
way
for
forever
and
then
the
other
thing
you
know
we
spoke
about
the
property
tax
rebate
program,
looking
at
a
continuation
of
that
for
community
members
that
are
on
the
circuit,
breaker
program.
I
Just
a
brief
overview
of
the
budget
process
from
a
city
council
standpoint,
you
know
we
had
this.
This
discussion
today
we'll
be
having
another
workshop
on
May
23rd,
a
rather
long
Council
session
to
go
through
each
and
every
Department,
as
well
as
themes,
themes,
the
the
you
will
be
seeing
on
June
16th
when
the
budget
is
released
shortly
after
the
budget
is
released,
we'll
be
having
another
workshop
on
June
27th.
We'll
then
have
our
public
hearing
on
July
11th,
where
community
members
can
come
and
testify
on.
I
I
This
past
Friday
on
that
website,
There's
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
provide
feedback
on
how
the
city's
strategic
priority
areas
that
can
have
impact
on
the
community
as
well
as
any
other
feedback
they'd
like
to
share
that
feedback
will
be
made
available
to
the
city
council
and
to
the
mayor
through
the
budget
process.
So
it
can
be
considered.
You
know
at
the
various
budget
workshops
at
the
public
hearing
so
on
and
so
forth.
H
Historically,
has
been
how
residential
property
taxes
are
not
correlated
with
government
spending,
even
though
that
makes
up
a
huge
portion
of
our
Revenue
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
just
speak
to
how,
even
if
we
took
zero
percent
property
taxes
or
even
negative,
how
residential
property
taxes
could
still
potentially
go
up
in
that
situation.
I
Councilmember
Nash.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
It's
it's
something
that
we
spend
a
lot
of
time.
Looking
at
and
thinking
about.
You
know
we.
We
have
a
presentation
that
we
include
in
the
annual
budget
document
that
looks
at
the
average
homeowner
and
the
impact
of
City
budgetary
growth
and
what
they
actually
will
be
seeing
in
terms
of
their
property
tax
assessment
and
we've
seen
a
major
disconnect
between
those
two
things.
I
The
the
city
property
tax
growth
again
is
limited
to
three
percent,
but
if
you
look
at
community
members
and
what
they're
paying
in
their
their
actual
property
tax
bill
in
many
instances,
they're
seeing
double-digit
growth
multiple
years
in
a
row
and
the
primary
reason
for
that
really.
The
sole
reason
for
that
has
been
burden
shift
between
the
residential
and
the
commercial
sector
of
the
community,
and
that
burden
shift
has
been
has
been
happening
for
two
primary
reasons.
I
One
is
the
the
higher
rate
of
assessment
growth
for
Residential
Properties
versus
commercial
properties,
so
we've
seen
assessed
values
for
Residential
Properties,
increasing
really
exponentially,
and
in
some
instances
we've
seen
the
the
assessed
value
for
commercial
properties
staying
flat
or
declining.
The
other
thing
that's
happened
is
the
homeowners
exemption
has
been
capped.
It
was
capped
approximately
five
years
ago.
So
the
fact
that
more
and
more
of
Residential
Properties
are
subject
to
property
taxes
due
to
the
homeowners
exemption.
I
Being
capped
has
created
a
disparity
in
terms
of
who
pays
what
to
our
overall
property
taxes
as
we
go
through
this
cycle,
I'll
be
presenting
a
lot
more
information
that
can
share
slides
and
graphs
and
charts
detailing
this
further
for
you,
but
it
is
most
definitely
something
that
we've
seen
whereby
the
residential
property
tax
bills
have
not
tracked
with
the
rate
of
City
growth.
Residential
has
grown
much
more
rapidly.
G
Eric,
thanks
for
the
presentation,
I
think
I
have
the
answer
to
this
question,
but
I
want
to
clarify.
We
dedicate
five
percent
to
VRT,
but
that's
from
property
tax.
But
on
another
side
it
said
3.1
and
I'm.
Assuming
that's
because
that's
looking
at
the
overall
budget
picture
is
that
correct,
councilman.
I
Rule
that
is
correct.
The
3.1
percent
represented
the
entire
general
fund
budget,
but
the
amount
that's
allocated
to
VRT
is
five
percent
of
our
property
tax
budget.
Super.
F
Two
questions:
first,
just
given
the
audience
I'll
point
out
that
we
could
always
change
and
withhold
that
money
if
we
need
to
so
we'll.
Keep
that
in
mind
for
the
next
presentation.
But
my
real
question
is
that
there
was
some
legislation
and
some
discussion
in
our
last
session
about
withholding
tax
revenues
to
cities
based
on
what
I
view
as
policy
disagreements
and
I
wonder
if
there's
any
risk
to
any
of
our
tax
revenue
this
year,
based
on
those
conversations
and
that
legislation.
I
I
think
the
you
know
the
we're
evaluating
that
I
think
the
any
legislation
or
any
resolutions,
ordinances
passed
by
the
bills
best
passed
by
the
the
city
have
been
mindful
of
aligning
with
the
lock,
and
we
would
certainly
hope
and
anticipate
that
we
would
not
be
impacted
by
that
bill.
Great.
D
D
A
Yeah
I'll
jump
in
here
because
we're
the
last
year
the
legislature
passed
a
bill
allowing
cities
to
do
this,
so
we're
not
participating
in
state
program.
We
created
our
own,
but
it
can
be
Beyond,
just
those
that
are
eligible
for
the
circuit
breaker.
However,
it
made
sense
to
put
dip
our
toe
into
the
water
and
provide
strict.
We
call
it
circuit
breaker
relief
for
those
that
are
on
the
circuit
breaker.
We
can
continue
that
program.
A
A
So
it's
that
I
mean
we
have
to
decide
if
we
want
to
keep
keep
it
going,
which
I'll
recommend
that
we
do,
because
it's
property
tax
relief
for
those
that
need
it
most
and
then,
in
the
long
term,
how
we
make
sure
that
everyone
that
deserves
it
and
qualifies
for
it
can
actually
get
it.
I
D
Highlight
that
yes,
CE
and
the
staff
are
working
really
hard
to
get
some
of
those
few
remaining
people.
It's
actually
tomorrow
that
we're
going
to
start
that
effort
knocking
on
doors,
and
our
hope
is
that
we
can
get
to
everybody
tomorrow.
D
So
we
don't
have
to
go
out
on
Saturday,
but
if
we
don't
we'll
go
on
Saturday
as
well-
and
it
seems
pretty
amazing
to
me
that
we've
got
staff
members
that
are
willing
to
go
out
there
and
knock
on
every
single
door
of
folks
that
they've
already
reached
out
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
everybody
that
we
possibly
can
involved
in
this
program.
So
yes,
I,
would
be
I
would
love
to
consider
continuing
that
rebate
program.
A
J
J
Well,
while
Bree's
getting
that
set
up,
I'm
gonna
say
how
fun
it
is
to
be
back
so
soon.
I
didn't
expect
that
I
would
be
quite
this
soon,
but
it
it
really
is
great
I
know.
All
of
you
know.
Stephen
hunt
who
is
with
me
tonight
he'll
be
here
to
answer
questions
if
necessary,
but
I'll
be
doing
the
presentation.
J
So
thank
you.
I'd
also
like
to
note
that,
usually,
when
we
do
this
presentation,
there
would
be
a
public
hearing
either
on
this
night
or
very
soon
after
so
you
could
get
input
from
the
public
on
the
concepts
this
year.
That
presentation
will
be
that
public
input
will
be
a
month
or
so
from
now
so
tonight
we'll
be
providing
you
with
some
input
from
the
surveys
that
we've
been
doing
and
hope
that
can
help
inform
your
direction
to
us.
J
So
I'm
going
to
quickly
try
to
go
through
all
of
these
things.
In
the
time
we
have
I
know
that
we
have
some
new
council
members,
so
I'm
going
to
introduce
a
little
bit
about
brt
things
that
you
may
not
know
talk
about
the
things
that
we've
accomplished
these
last
couple
of
years
have
a
budget
development
discussion
and
talk
about
initiative
that
I've
started
since
I
came
on
board
called
the
better
bus
initiative
and
then
finally
talk
about
service
concepts
for
2024
and
what
that
might
mean
for
your
budget
development.
J
So
I'm,
going
to
start
by
talking
about
our
fixed
route,
Services
I
think
I
went
the
wrong
direction.
There
we
go.
So
this
is
a
map
of
our
current
services
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
18
bus
routes
in
local
bus
routes.
We
have
four
inner
County
routes
and
then
we
have
a
big
service
area
out
in
Canyon
County,
where
we
provide
on-demand
service
with
four
different
buses.
J
This
service
has
provided
nine
hundred
thousand
rides
this
year
this
last
year
about
80
or
90
000
a
month
depending
on
the
month,
and
we
know
that
we
could
provide
more
service
and
if
we
did
we'd
attract
more
Riders,
but
because
we
can't
we
fill
the
Gap
with
other
ways.
So
I
wanted
all
of
you
who
haven't
seen
this
to
understand
the
other
things
that
VRT
also.
Does
we
have
the
on-demand
service
that
I
mentioned?
J
We
have.
We
did
have
a
bike
share,
although
it's
dormant
right
now
we're
still
showing
it
until
we
figure
out
what
the
future
of
that
is.
We
have
access
service
which
provides
services
to
folks
who
qualify
with
disabilities
and
live
within
three
quarters
of
a
mile
of
a
fixed
route
service.
We
have
specialized
Services,
which
particularly
work
for
senior
centers
and
rides
to
various
health
health
care
facilities.
J
We
serve
veterans
with
those
and
we
serve
a
lot
of
job
sites
where
we
have
specialized
populations
needing
to
reach
those
job
sites.
Citigo
is
a
service
that
helps
employers,
understand
that
they
can
provide
passes
to
their
employees
and
then
does
travel
training
for
them.
We
also
do
travel
training
for
other
folks.
J
We
administer
the
safe
routes
to
school
program
for
all
of
the
students
in
both
Ada
and
Canyon
counties,
pretty
much
it's
the
biggest
safe
routes
to
school
program
in
the
state
of
Idaho,
and
then
we
have
a
help
desk
where
people
can
come
and
ask
questions
about
how
to
ride
how
to
access
services
and
all
of
those
things.
We
know
that
people
who
write
our
services
often
save
eight
or
nine
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
car
ownership
costs
if
they
can
get
away
with
one
less
car.
J
For
instance,
we
know
that
people
in
the
valley
spend
1.5
billion
dollars
on
providing
their
own
transportation
services
with
private
Vehicles.
So
we
think
the
service
that
we
provide
is
actually
a
pretty
cheap
alternative
to
that
I
keep
going
the
wrong
way.
I
don't
have
to
tell
you
that
funding
is
our
biggest
challenge.
You
can
see
in
this
slide
how
far
we
fall
behind
the
rest
of
our
peers.
We
get
no
State
funding.
We
don't
have
a
dedicated
source
of
local
funding,
we're
the
only
subdivision
of
state
government
that
doesn't
have
taxing
Authority.
J
That
means
that
we
rely
on
you,
cities,
counties
and
others
for
voluntary
contributions
to
help
run
our
services.
We
do
get
Federal
formula
funds,
but
those
are
limited
also
because
oftentimes,
we
don't
have
enough
local
funds
to
match
all
of
the
federal
funds
and
we
can't
use
all
of
it
that
we
might
otherwise
be
able
to
it's
no
secret.
Why
we
have
better
services
in
Boise.
J
It's
your
partnership
and
your
support
with
those
voluntary
contributions
that
have
allowed
us
to
grow
the
services
inside
the
city
of
Boise
in
ways
that
haven't
we
haven't
been
able
to.
In
other
communities,
it's
helped
us
meet
all
of
our
goals
in
energy
use
and
transportation
choices,
and
in
your
expectations
for
Best
in
Class
service
on
your
Best
in
Class
Transit
routes.
J
I
want
you
to
know
how
much
we
value
that
partnership
and
are
working
hard
to
make
sure
that
you
and
your
constituents
get
the
most
and
the
best
service
you
can
out
of
that.
Despite
the
tight
funding
that
we
all
face
and
not
surprised
at
hearing
your
your
budget
discussion,
how
you
know
it's
a
challenging
year
for
all
of
us,
so
I
know,
there's
some
big
choices
to
be
had
I.
Don't
know
that
many
of
you
understand
the
way
that
we
do
our
own
budget
planning,
so
I
thought
I'd
show
this
slide.
J
We
have
a
five-year
Transportation
development
plan,
which
is,
in
fact
our
our
out
our
budget
on
a
five-year
basis,
while
it's
similar
to
other
agencies,
there's
also
some
notable
differences.
J
It
has
a
The
Five-Year
Plan
has
a
capital
plan
similar
to
the
CIP
or
the
12
of
property
tax
that
you
just
saw
from
Eric.
It
also
has
maintenance
and
asset
management
bucket
much
like
achd's
does,
where
it
differs
from
those
plans
that
you
see
on
their
transportation
side
is
that
it
also
shows
growth
in
our
plan
for
services
operations
of
those
services.
J
That
would
be
more
like
your
various
Department
budgets
that
you
again
just
saw
and
all
of
you
trying
to
determine
how
much
you
can
afford
to
invest
in
the
services
next
year,
and
so
we
we
understand
that
there
are
big
choices
here
and
and
hope
that
we
can
find
a
way
to
continue
to
provide
the
kind
of
services
you'd,
like
the
other
big
circle,
is
the
data
that
we
use
to
drive
our
decisions.
I
would
note
that
we're
in
the
throes
of
getting
a
new
Erp
system,
we're
really
excited
about
that.
J
So
typically,
we
make
those
changes
in
the
fall
we
plan
all
summer
for
them,
and
your
input
is
really
invaluable,
but
you'll.
Note
that
the
final
approval
for
those
changes
is
the
full
VRT
board
and
through
your
board,
members
you'll
bring
whatever
input
you
have
to
that
final
decision.
J
J
So
we
hope
that
in
informing
that
tonight
you
can
have
a
better
understanding
of
of
where
you
want
to
go
with
that
in
2022
we
did
a
lot
of
pretty
cool
things.
We
successfully
competed
for
a
raise
Grant
on
State
Street
for
10
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
a
20
million
dollar
loan
out
Grant,
which
is
a
low
emissions
vehicle
Grant.
Thank
you
for
your
match.
In
making
those
grants
happen,
it
wouldn't
have
happened
frankly,
without
that
we
know
that
and
we're
excited
to
get
get
started
on
those.
J
The
State
Street
Grant
will
is
in
the
planning
stages
right
now,
but
it
will
provide
some
of
the
infrastructure
to
make
State
Street
and
an
even
better
Transit
Corridor
in
the
future.
The
low
no
grants
are
continuing
to
provide
our
move
from
clean
natural
gas
to
electric
buses,
those
buses
we've
found
people
really
love
them.
J
They're
quiet
in
an
urban
setting,
they're
really
Pleasant
to
be
around
compared
to
diesel
Florida,
even
a
compressed
natural
gas
bus
and
they're,
frankly,
more
economical,
and
in
the
long
run
we
think
the
maintenance
on
them
is
going
to
be
more
predictable.
So
as
that
progresses,
we're
pretty
excited
that
it
will
help
us
be
even
more
efficient.
J
We've
also
Broken
Ground
and
made
progress
on
some
capital
projects.
The
orchard
Street
facility.
If
any
of
you
have
not
been
out
there,
I'd
be
happy
to
take
you
on
a
tour.
That's
where
we
maintain
and
store
all
of
our
buses
where
we
charge
our
electric
buses
we're
in
the
throes
of
expanding
the
lot
out
there.
So
we
can
expand
the
charging
stations
and
hopefully
all
of
you
have
seen
the
transit
Islands
on
Fairview
Avenue.
J
J
We've
also
done
some
really
important
studies
this
year,
looking
at
how
to
increase
service
around
the
rest
of
Ada
County
how
to
the
next
step
and
what
we
need
to
do
for
facilities
out
at
our
Orchard
site.
Bus
stop
typology
means
making
bus
stops
more
readable,
easier
to
use
more
convenient.
We
have
a
regional
band
pool
study
going
that
we
hope
will
improve
that
service
and
the
same
with
integrated
Mobility
Beyond
Ada
is
a
study
to
improve
those
services
to
the
senior
centers
and
the
health
care
centers
and
those
job
sites
and
we're
excited.
J
We
think
that
we
can
provide
those
more
efficiently
than
we've
been
able
to
in
the
past
once
we
get
this
study
done
this
year.
We're
moving
forward
now
that
we
have
the
bus,
stop
typology
done
with
the
signage
and
I'll
show
you
an
example
of
that.
In
a
minute,
we're
re,
we
we
need
to
frankly
repurpose
some
of
our
low
performing
surface
Services.
Both
in
Ada
and
Canyon
counties
so
that
we
can
stay
within
our
budget
and
we're
implementing
the
State
Street
raise
Grant
and
alono
Grant.
J
We're
also
doing
a
lot
of
things
to
try
to
Inc
control
our
costs
and
increase
our
revenues.
Let's
take
a
quick
look
at
ridership.
It's
up
we're
excited.
It's
been
a
while
given
kovid
that
we've
seen
these
kinds
of
increases.
J
As
you
can
see
in
this
chart,
the
green
line
is
FY
2021.
The
purple
line
is
22..
We
were
tracking
about
the
same
as
21
until
February
of
22,
and
then
we
took
a
big
jump
and
it's
remained
at
that
higher
rate.
That's
helped
us
in
a
lot
of
ways,
but,
most
importantly,
it's
helped.
Your
constituents
make
sure
they
can
get
around
all
right.
If
I
dig
into
the
ridership,
this
craft
was
in
the
material
we
provided.
You
I
know
it's
hard
to
see
on
the
screen
here,
but.
A
J
J
So
why
are
we
here
tonight?
We
want
to
talk
about
budget
development.
We
want
to
talk
about
that
better
bus
initiative
and
the
service
Concepts
and
how
they
relate
to
both
of
those.
J
So
for
those
of
you
who
weren't
here
in
2019,
this
city
and
VRT,
entered
into
an
mou
on
to
stabilize
the
funding
instead
of
it
being
an
every
year
gosh,
are
we
going
to
get
anything
kind
of
conversation?
J
At
least
there
was
a
flaw
in
how
much
the
city
might
be
willing
to
to
offer
VRT,
and
that
has
really
helped
our
ability
to
plan
for
the
future
with
that
and
that
stability
we've
been
able
to
provide
the
15-minute
Peak
service
on
State
Street
and
Vista
we've
extended
hours
until
9
pm
and
we've
enhanced
Saturday
surface.
We've
also
used
some
of
that
money,
additional
money.
Frankly,
for
the
fleet,
electrification,
we've
had
the
same
challenges
on
inflation
that
you
all
have.
In
our
case,
there's
been
a
61
percent
increase
in
compressed
natural
gas
prices.
J
There's
been
a
20
increase
in
wages
in
order
to
attract
enough
operators
to
continue
to
operate
the
system
and
we've
seen
a
really
dramatic
increase
in
parts
and
supplies
for
our
maintenance
of
our
of
our
buses.
For
instance,
a
catalytic
converter
has
increased
in
price
almost
five
times
over
what
it
was
a
few
years
ago.
J
So
these
kinds
of
increases
not
hard
to
tell
make
it
pretty
hard
to
provide
a
good
service.
We've
been
working
hard
to
keep
that
our
request
at
the
five
percent.
The
numbers
that
you
see
in
2020
and
2021
are
reflective
of
some
Capital
Investments
for
those
grants
that
we
talked
about
that
helped
us
Electrify
the
fleet
and
move
toward
better
service
on
Fairview
or
on
State
Street.
Otherwise,
we've
we've
really
done
I
think
a
pretty
good
job
of
of
staying
within
the
five
percent.
Despite
the
challenges.
J
So
we
were
able
to
stay
there
in
part,
because
we
used
cares
money
to
offset
some
of
the
increases
we
were
seeing
and
we've
worked
hard
to
increase
our
directly
generated
revenue.
For
instance,
our
fares
have
gone
up
quite
a
bit
along
with
ridership.
As
you
see,
ridership
go
up.
Our
advertising
this
year
is
set
to
top
a
million
dollars,
that's
over
twice
what
it
was
just
a
few
years
ago,
so
we're
working
hard
to
do
what
we
can
to
raise
money
in
other
ways.
J
However,
we
think,
despite
that
and
even
with
increased
funding,
it
makes
sense
at
this
time
to
look
at
the
efficiency
of
the
system
and
restructure
where
we
can
to
provide
better
access
and
higher
frequencies
rather
than
more
coverage.
I'll
show
you
how
that
works.
So
coverage
means
that
you
have
a
lot
of
buses
going
around
at
less
frequent
times
to
more
places.
J
Frequency
means
you
have
those
same
buses
and
even
more
going
on
more
contracted
routes.
But
more
often
you
have
more
bus
stops
in
more
places
or
a
few
bus,
fewer
routes
and
less
places
and
on
and
on
so
our
choice
really
has
always
been
between
coverage
and
frequency,
but
we're
in
a
in
a
place
in
time
when
that
choice
has
gotten
pretty
Stark
this
year,
and
we
think
that
it's
time
to
take
a
new
look
at
this
and
see
if
we're
in
the
right
place
or
not.
J
The
better
bus
initiative
is
one
to
talk
about
how
we
can
get
to
that
that
choice.
We
know
that
we
have
to
make
the
choice
between
coverage
and
frequency,
and
so
we've
gone
out
to
the
public
to
begin
to
get
input
on
that.
J
What
you're
seeing
here
is
a
vision
of
what
we
show
in
our
long-range
plan
and
the
kind
of
coverage
we've
we
would
have
if,
if
that
long-range
plan
were
actually
funded
and
we
could
could
make
it
work,
but
we
haven't
made
as
much
progress
toward
it
as
we'd
like
to
partly
mostly
because
of
funding,
but
also
in
part,
because
I
think
the
vision
hasn't
been
as
clear
for
people
as
it
will
take
I
think
to
get
support
for
that
funding.
J
So
we're
hoping
that
this
better
bus
initiative
will
help
build
that
Vision.
We
also
know
that
we
need
four
times
more
service
to
reach
the
level
of
our
Pure
cities,
and
when
we
did
this
plan,
we
we
learned
that,
and
so
how
do
we
get
from
where
we
are
today
in
both
funding
and
service?
To
where
we'd
like
to
be
that's
the
big
question,
so
better
bus
is
for
four
different
pieces.
What
are
the
better
routes
that
can
serve
more
people?
J
More
often,
what
can
make
the
bus
rides
better,
so
they're
more
attractive,
easier,
more
comfortable,
and
what
can
we
do
at
the
bus
stops
to
make
sure
that
people
find
the
bus
can
use
it
easily,
can
wait
for
it
in
a
dignified
way
and
know
when
it's
coming
and
then
finally,
is
there
an
opportunity
to
move
toward
Regional
Rail,
which
would
help
overall
make
the
whole
system
I?
Think
more,
more
productive,
so
better
bus
routes,
we'll
start
with
those,
and
that
includes
the
trade-off
that
I
talked
about
between
coverage
and
frequency.
J
So,
throughout
this
initiative
we've
been
telling
people
what
we
mean
by
better
bus
routes
is
buses
that
come
more
frequently
the
trade-off
for
that
and
more
and
later
into
the
day.
The
trade-off
for
that
is
that
they
may
not
be
able
to
go
as
many
places
so
just
keep
in
mind
that
we've
been
telling
people
that,
as
as
we've
been
asking
them
these
questions
just
an
example
of
the
frequency.
J
Imagine
you
have
a
car
that
only
starts
once
an
hour,
so
if
you
want
to
go
somewhere
and
you
miss
that
once
an
hour,
it's
kind
of
a
tough
deal,
oh
wait
now
I've
got
one
that
starts
every
30
minutes,
that's
even
better,
but
if
it
started
every
15
minutes
you
could
probably
get
pretty
much
where
you
needed
to
go
when
you
needed
to
go.
So
that's
really
the
trade-off
we
talk
about
when
we
talk
about
frequency,
yeah
people.
I
J
Think
don't
don't
recognize
the
the
impact
that
frequency
has,
and
so
that's
why
we
like
to
illustrate
it
that
way.
What
do
we
mean
by
better
bus
rides?
Well,
we
already
provide
free
Wi-Fi.
We
have
trip
planning
services
on
our
website.
We
have
apps
that
allow
you
to
buy
fares
online
or
with
a
smartphone.
We
have
other
ways
to
make
it
easier
to
get
on
the
bus.
J
We're
also
looking
to
do
better,
though
than
than
what
we
are
already.
We
want
to
integrate,
Our
Brands
better.
We
want
to
integrate
the
apps
in
a
way
that
makes
them
easier
to
use.
We
want
to
get
more
electric
buses,
we
know
they're
quieter.
We
know
that,
especially
in
the
city,
they
provide
a
a
much
more
sustainable
and
more
pleasant
ride
and
we
want
to
provide
a
better
on-board
arrival
and
announcement
screens.
So
that
passenger
information
is
is
more
readily
available.
J
We
have
some
today
we're
ordering
others
that
we
think
will
be
even
easier
to
use
better
bus
stops.
Like
I
said
we
did
this
typology
that
talked
about
what
would
it
take
to
make
the
stop
better?
That
includes
amenities,
like
benches,
shelters,
trash,
receptacles
lighting,
real-time
information,
ticket
vending
machines
in
some
cases
and
then
better
platforms.
So
it's
easier
to
get
on
and
off
the
bus
and
feel
safer,
while
you're
waiting,
better
shelters
so
that
if
it's
raining,
you
have
a
place
to
shelter.
J
Examples
of
those
are
these
ones
on
Fairview
that
CCDC
helped
build,
and
you
can
see
that
that
they
do
have
higher
platforms,
which
makes
them
easier
to
get
on
and
off
the
bus.
They
have
fences
that
protect
you
from
the
traffic
around
you
and
the
bike
traffic
they're
separated
from
the
bike
lane.
J
However,
they
still
have
these
little
tiny
signs
that
are
hard
to
read
and
lots
of
people,
don't
know
exactly
what
they're
saying.
So
the
next
step
is
building
more
of
these
kinds
of
stops
in
more
places
and
adding
signing
to
all
bus
stops.
That's
a
lot
more
readable
and
we
think
will
make
it
easier
to
understand
what's
happening
there.
They'll
be
bigger.
The
green
circle
means
that
that
is
a
route.
That's
going
to
come
every
15
minutes.
The
white
circle
means
that
it
will
come
every
30
minutes
and
the
purple
one
means
oh.
J
This
is
only
going
to
be
here
at
peak
hour.
So
if
I'm
waiting
for
a
purple
in
the
middle
of
the
day
whoops,
it's
not
going
to
be
running,
so
we
hope
that
this
sign
will
help
with
that.
We'll
Bus
arrival
information
at
the
major
stops
and
we'll
have
this
supplemental
information.
That'll
also
have
a
QR
code.
That
provides
a
lot
more
detail
for
how
in
where
you
can
ride
where
that
bus
goes.
J
Finally,
Regional
Rail
I
can
say
a
lot
about
this.
I
hope
I
can
come
back
at
some
point
in
the
future
and
really
dig
into
this.
So
what
I'm
going
to
say
tonight
is
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
opportunity
here.
I
think
it
could
be
a
game
changer
in
this
region.
It's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
effort
on
all
of
our
part
to
get
there,
but
I
think
the
payoff
will
be
big.
J
J
They
do
want
better
bus
rides
not
as
important
though,
and
better
bus
stops
and
they'd
love
to
have
Regional
Rail
I
was
astounded
frankly
that
Regional
Rail
was
lower
than
better
bus
routes,
so
I
think
that's
actually
a
pretty
interesting
stat
and
I
I.
You
know
with
283
respondents,
although
it's
not
scientific
I
I
think
it
tells
us
a
lot.
J
J
An
hour
is
kind
of
a
stretch,
and
most
people
don't
want
to
spend
an
hour
going,
but
at
least
you
can
get
a
fair
number
of
places
in
that
time.
If
you
look
at
our
long-range
plan
that
one
I
said
that
we
know
we
need
four
times
more
service,
for
these
are
all
the
places
you
could
get
in
that
same
amount
of
time.
J
I
think
it's.
It
says
a
lot
about
what
we
could
be
if
we
can
figure
out
a
way
for
some
more
stable
funding.
So
what
about
2024?
Well,
here
we
are
at
today's
Network,
and
we
know
that
you
know
this
is
what
that
Network
provides.
J
We
know
that
we
don't
have
frankly
enough
funding
to
continue
this
many
service
hours
on
the
network,
particularly
in
the
Boise
part
of
it,
and
so
one
of
the
things
we
thought
about
is
that
we
could
cut
and
restructure,
and
even
with
this
cut,
you
can
see
so
I
should
say
as
we're.
Looking
at
this
we're
looking
at
three
things:
we're
looking
at
footprint,
we're
looking
at
frequency
and
we're
looking
at
accessibility.
J
So
how
extensive
is
the
service?
How
frequently
does
it
come
and
how
many
people
can
access
it,
and
so
certainly
this
one
cuts
the
footprint,
but
even
with
that
cut,
we
think
we
can
provide
a
little
bit
that
will
help
with
the
the
frequencies
so
that
the
impact
of
that
on
accessibility
won't
be
as
notable
if
you
can
figure
out
how
to
increase
the
funding
from
five
to
five
and
a
half
percent.
J
We
can
look
at
that
and
also
look
at
either
providing
even
more
frequency
within
that
contracted
Network
or
doing
some
on-demand
services
in
the
edges.
The
on-demand
Services
offers
a
really
interesting
opportunity
because
we
could
use
those
to
mine
data
about
where
demand
actually
exists
and
where
it
doesn't.
J
We
know
today
that
when
we
provide
service,
people
write
it,
but
we
don't
know
for
sure
if
that's
the
right
place
for
people
to
ride
in
those
outlying
areas,
and
so
this
on-demand
Network
might
might
provide
us
a
really
interesting
way
to
to
mine
data
on
that.
On
the
other
hand,
there'd
be
a
lot
of
benefit
to
increasing
Services,
say
to
15
minutes
on
Fairview
and
30
minutes
in
the
rest
of
the
contracted
Network
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
service
and
the
amount
of
rides
we'd
get
out
of
that.
J
As
you
heard,
Eric
talked
today,
you
heard
that
it's
now
a
declined,
a
fair
amount
as
a
percentage
of
the
overall
general
fund,
so
it
hasn't
grown
as
much
or
as
quickly
as
the
rest
of
your
general
fund,
and
so
what
we
assumed
was
going
to
be
a
growing
source
of
funding
for
brt
hasn't
grown
quite
as
much
as
we
hoped
it
would
when
that
percent
was
set
so
I,
you
know
in
asking
for
the
5.5
percent.
We
know
that
it's
more
than
what
the
mou
says
today.
D
J
If
we
go
to
a
restructure,
we
could
go
to
15-minute
service
on
Fairview
such
as
this
in
the
re
investment
and
just
quickly
show
you
that,
even
with
the
cut
in
service,
we
we
would
lose
some
ridership,
but
we
wouldn't
have
nearly
as
much
cut
in
Access
as
you
as
it
looks
like
because
of
the
added
frequency
with
the
reinvestment
we,
we
would
actually
see
an
increase
in
ridership
and,
if
we're
able
to
reinvest
in
a
way
that
does
some
of
the
on-demand
we
think
we're
in,
we
could
maybe
provide
a
future
look
at
what
we
could
be
some
more
of
these
that
show
what
it
looks
like
today
from
noon
at
Main
Street,
with
the
cut
what
it
looks
like,
and
that
shows
the
accessibility
and
with
the
reinvestment
and
that's
without
any
on
demand.
J
G
Madam
mayor:
yes,
thanks
for
coming
back
Elaine
good
to
see
you,
so
it's
very
clear
that
Boise
has
a
commitment
to
public
transportation.
Can
you
talk
to
us
about
what
the
other
communities
have
in
terms
of
their
commitment
to
funding
VRT
if
it's
a
percentage
and
give
us
that
perspective
of
of
what
Boise's
shouldering
and
what
other
cities
are
shouldering
sure
and.
J
You
know
clearly,
the
other
cities
aren't
investing
at
the
same
rate
that
the
city
of
Boise
is
they
never
have.
Having
said
that,
I'll
tell
you
that
Caldwell's
interested
right
now
in
seeing
if
they
can
invest
more,
knowing
that
it
will
help
their
burgeoning
downtown
and
help
provide
access
from
some
of
the
really
interesting
activity.
J
Meridian
expanded
service
last
year's
first
time,
they've
supported
fixed
route
service,
they're
close
to
a
million
dollar
contributor.
First
time
they've
been
in
that
ballpark,
and
we
think
that
they
understand
that
with
the
city
of
that
size,
they
they
need
to
do
that.
Having
said
that,
nobody
else
is
anywhere
near
what
the
city
of
Boise
does.
J
H
Madam
mayor
Elaine,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
My
question
is
about
some
legislation
that
was
recently
passed
that
addressed
special
taxing
districts
and
had
kind
of
addressed
public
transit.
Do
you
expect
any
impact
to
your
budget
based
on
any
of
that
legislation.
J
Certainly,
the
potential
exists
I
what
I
told
the
Statesman
and
what
I'll
tell
you
is
I'm
going
to
take
them
at
their
word
in
their
testimony.
They
said
it
doesn't
mean
that
you
can't
fund
public
transit
or
walking
and
biking.
It
means
that
the
majority
of
your
funding
should
be
spent
on
roadways.
Well,
the
majority
always
has
been
it's
been
on.
Roadways
I
expect
that
to
continue
as
long
as
some
can
get
spent
on,
Transit
I
think
we'll
be
okay.
J
Having
said
that,
the
ambiguity
of
the
legislation-
the
way
it's
written
I-
think,
should
give
us
all
pause
as
to
what
the
impact
will
be.
I
will
tell
you
if
it
does
impact
us
I'll,
make
sure
that
we
are
on
the
docket
next
year,
so
that
the
legislature
kind
of
understand
the
impact
and
what
it
means
to
our
residents.
Thank.
E
You
good
to
see
you
again
Lane,
as
you
mentioned,
that
the
additional
0.5
you
might
be
investing
some
of
that
in
the
on-demand
I'm
just
curious
since
out
and
Caldwell,
you
have
been
providing
on-demand
Services.
If
there's
some
lessons
learned
as
to
why
you
might
want
to
apply
that
funding
here
in
Boise,
so.
J
Right
now,
we
only
provide
on-demand
services
in
Canyon,
County
and
those
Services
have
been
effective
in
a
very
short
budget
atmosphere
in
Canyon
County,
but
we
found
that
they
haven't
been
as
effective
as
they
could
be
because
they
don't
connect
to
a
fixed
route
and
so
I'm
I'm
curious
to
learn
whether
we
can
use
on
demand
in
this
atmosphere
where
we
do
have
a
good,
fixed
route
to
connect
to
and
and
what
the
effect
would
be.
J
So
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
you
today,
but
I
do
know
that
lots
of
services
in
Europe
are
experimenting
with
this
and
using
it
to
figure
out
where
the
service
demand
exists
and
where
it
would
be
best
to
provide
fixed
route.
Services
I'll
tell
you.
My
vision
of
the
future
is
fixed
route
Services.
It's
not
on
demand,
although
I
think
on
demand
will
probably
play
a
role
on
the
periphery.
But
my
hope
is
that
we
can
find
enough
funding
to
provide
fixed
route
Services,
which
are
much
more
efficient
on
a
per
capita
basis.
D
A
couple
questions
first,
question:
I
think
you
spoke
to
this
a
little
bit
in
your
presentation,
but
you're
coming
to
us.
D
I
think
you
need
direction
on
whether
you
think
the
city
has
the
ability
to
do
5.5
this
year
and
I
think
that
you
also
said
that
there
there
may
be
a
need
for
us
to
continue
to
looking
at
larger
percentages
going
forward
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
just
kind
of
speak
to
whether
this
is
sort
of
a
one-time
Mass
this
year
or
if
this
is
something
that
we
might
want
to
anticipate
going
forward.
Thank.
J
You
I
think
that's
a
great
question.
I
think
you
know
referring
back
to
my
discussion
on
the
property
tax,
as
a
percentage
of
your
overall
general
fund
I
would
expect
if
the
property
tax
stays
in
that
range
that
going
forward.
We,
you
would
look
for
us
to
ask
for
a
higher
percentage
going
forward,
like
the
5.5
percent.
I
would
also
add
you
know.
The
mou
is
four
years
old.
I
think
it
would
behoove
us
to
examine
it
and
see
what
changes
might
be
useful
to
all
of
us.
J
J
You
know,
based
on
certain
assumptions
that
may
or
may
not
be
true
anymore,
so
I'd
also
entertain
if
you're
willing
to
do
the
five
and
a
half
percent
this
year,
a
process
over
the
next
year
to
really
re-examine
the
mou
and
figure
out
going
forward.
What's
the
appropriate
way
to
to
do
this,
yeah.
D
Manamere
I
guess,
following
up
kind
of
specifically
on
that
and
I
hope.
This
is
a
fair
question,
so
the
city
we
have
representation
on
the
brt
board
myself
as
a
council
member,
the
mayor,
and
so
when
we're
looking
at
this,
this
extra
0.5
percent
and
you're
showing
us
a
couple
options
that
we
see
on
screen
here
today
and
those
are
potentially
some
of
the
options
I
guess
in
where,
where
is
the
city's
ability
to
weigh
in
on
where
this?
This
goes?
J
The
final
decision
is
the
boards
as
I
said
and
I.
That's
why
I
pointed
that
out,
but
your
your
input
on
it
is
invaluable
and
will
always
be
honored.
I've,
never
not
seen
it
honored
over
the
next
month
and
a
half.
The
better
bus
initiative
will
pivot
to
these
con.
These
service
Concepts
and
we'll
get
public
input
to
the
extent
we
can
on
them.
J
I
anticipate
coming
back
and
having
a
public
hearing
where
you
could
hear
from
the
public
both
on
the
service
Concepts
themselves,
but
also
on
the
bigger
picture,
questions
that
we
asked
today.
So
at
that
point
we
would
hear
directly
from
you
what
what
you
think
the
direction
should
be
on
those
service
changes
and,
like
I
said,
although
the
final
decision
is
the
boards
I've
never
never
seen
the
board,
not
honor
that
kind
of
a
direction
from
some
of
their
board
members.
Okay,.
D
B
Yeah
manamere
I
would
just
like
to
show
some
support
for
revisiting
that
mou.
I
think
that
it's
been
a
while.
It
probably
deserves
a
reluct
to
figure
out
if
it's
still
working
for
all
of
us
and
see
if
there's
a
better
way
that
we
can
provide
a
little
bit
more
predictability.
So
I
just
wanted
to
speak
up
on
that.
Thank
you.
D
And
and
so
I
guess
my
thank
you,
council,
president
Williams,
so
I
guess.
My
final
question
here
is
it's
kind
of
related
to
the
city's
property
taxes.
So
we
had
a
year
in
2020
where
we
took
zero.
Well,
we
took
zero
and
then
some
other
years
where
we
took
a
little
bit
less
of
amount
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
that
plays
into
this
as
well
and
how
that's
affected
brt.
J
D
How
has
that
had
an
impact
on
the
budget
I.
J
I
think
that
has-
and
it
had
an
impact
in
the
year
when
the
rebate
was
in
play.
All
of
those
have
impacted
the
the
growth
and
property
tax
versus
the
growth
in
overall
general
fund
budget,
in
a
way
that
we
didn't
anticipate.
J
A
All
right,
well
I
appreciate
the
discussion
I,
you
know
yes,
you'll
be
back,
we'll
have
a
public
hearing,
but
there
there
are
many
things
that
we
have
to
balance
requests
wise
and
so
that
that'll
be.
The
ongoing
discussion
is,
is
the
trade-offs
if
we
increase,
if,
when
looking
and
opening
up
an
mou,
what
it,
what
is
it
the
city
needs
for
it
to
work.
In
addition
to
VRT
sure,
there's
a
I'd
say
that
there's
a
lot
of
moving
Parts
I
really
appreciate
this
presentation.
A
Some
of
the
clarity
we
haven't
had
before
in
terms
of
vision,
which
I
think
is
really
important
for
us
to
understand,
but
I
I
expect
that
there
are
likely
more
questions
as
council
members
and
we
kind
of
sit
and
digest
what
we
heard
today.
That
would
come
up
when
we
see
you
next
and
as
we're
looking
to
what
we
would
need
if
we
were
to
create
a
trade-off
and
provide
more
funding
for
the
next
year.
So.
J
A
Not
I
I
would
actually
ask
that
you
do
what
we
tend
to
do,
which
is
we
plan
for
a
number
that
we
always
can
get,
and
then
we
adjust
it
accordingly,
if
possible.
So
stick
with
what
what
the
mou
says:
five
percent
as
we,
because
we
have
to
look
at
so
many
other
trade-offs,
we
haven't
had
the
kind
of
full
budget
review
or
workshop
on
what
that
would
mean
in
terms
of
what
might
not
get
funded.
A
Otherwise,
so
please
I
would
ask
that
you
keep
the
map,
as
as
is
at
five
percent,
that
we
have
a
public
hearing
to
hear
thoughts
on
what
that
might
look
like
that.
We
have
time
to
determine
how
if
we
could
get
to
5.5
with
budget
staff-
and
we
continue
this
conversation.
The
next
meeting.
J
D
Mayor
I
do
have
a
comment
here
and
I.
Think
council
president
woodings
for
bringing
this
up
I
think
that
there
is
a
need
to
look
at
the
mou
to
provide
some
consistency,
because
it
does
strike
me
as
kind
of
a
challenge:
budgeting
wise
for
brt.
If
we're
committing,
you
know
to
a
minimum
of
five
percent,
but
then
we
don't
know
exactly
what
we're
taking
with
our
own
property
taxes
and
how
that's
sort
of
communicated
in
a
consistent
way,
and
so
that
would
be
an
area
that
I
think
I
would
also
like
to
explore.
D
Is
how
can
we
try
to
figure
out
a
way
where
a
decision
that
we're
making
on
whether
or
not
we're
taking
one
percent,
two
percent
three
percent-
has
a
huge
impact
on
VRT
and
how
we
can
plan
for
that
and
how
they're
maybe
there's
a
way
that
can
be
a
little
more
consistent
and
predictable
for
how
we
make
those
decisions
too.
J
Could
I
ask
one
last
clarifying
question
real
quick?
Would
you
be
open
to
us
providing
also
a
concept
that
shows
the
five
and
a
half
percent,
so
you
all
could
see
what
it
would
produce
versus
the
five
percent
recognizing
that
we'll
have
a
five
percent
concept
that
you
can
stick
with.
If
that's,
what
you
determine
is
oh.
A
J
D
Madam
mayor
pursuant
to
Idaho
code
sections,
74-206,
subsections
d,
f
and
J
I
move
to
enter
into
executive
session
to
consider
records
exempt
from
disclosure
to
communicate
with
legal
counsel,
to
discuss,
pending
or
probable
litigation,
and
to
consider
labor
contract
matters
under
Idaho
code,
section,
74-206,
A1,
A
and
B.
Second,
you.