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From YouTube: Boise City Council - Zoning Code Meeting
Description
Day 1 of 4
A
A
C
A
Thank
you.
So
today
we
have
the
beginning
the
first
of
many
hearings
on
our
modern
zoning
code
and
as
those
of
you
who
are
here,
know
we'll
first
hear
from
staff,
a
staff
presentation
and
then
we'll
hear
from
neighborhood
associations
this
year
this
evening
and
then
I.
Imagine
many
members
of
the
public
are
listening.
Online
I've
got
quite
a
bit
of
folks
signed
up
for
Tuesday
and
Wednesday,
and
but
people
can
still
come
tomorrow
and
testify
your
Wednesday
and
testify
if
you
haven't
signed
up,
but
tonight
we're
going
to
stick
with
neighborhood
associations.
A
To
get
us
to
this
point
by
the
committee
of
volunteers
that
worked
together.
Learn
together,
worked
together,
heard
from
the
public
for
quite
a
few
years,
and
then
each
and
every
one
of
you
that
has
provided
us
testimony
already,
either
in
written
form
or
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission,
and
then
those
of
you
that
will
be
joining
us
for
the
next
couple
days.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
ask
Tim
Keane
to
begin
the
staff
presentation.
D
Thank
you,
mayor
mayor
city,
council,
Tim,
Keane,
director
of
planning
and
development
services
for
the
city
of
Boise
and
I
will
go
through
a
presentation
here.
Mayor
the
let's
see,
let
me
make
sure
I
got
my
slides,
okay.
This
is
kind
of
the
the
information
I'll
be
going
through
this
evening,
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
little
bit
of
a
recap
of
the
process
that
got
us
to
where
we
are
this
evening,
discuss
the
basic
structure
of
this
ordinance.
D
I
want
to
start
to
Mayor
by
by
thanking
everybody,
that's
been
so
involved
in
this
process.
It's
been
a
long
one.
It's
been
years
that
this
community's
been
working
on
this
and
and
consistently
people
throughout
the
city
have
brought
a
lot
of
energy
and
and
genuine
passion
about
their
City
to
this.
These
deliberations
for
for
years,
so
many
meetings.
So
many
such
a
variety
of
discussions
around
the
city.
It's
been
an
amazing
experience
to
have
residents
of
this
city
come
so
often
and
bring
their
aspirations
for
the
city
as
it
grows.
D
It's
such
a
unique
opportunity
for
people
so
start
by
thanking
everyone
that
contributed
to
this
and
I'll.
Also
just
thank
as
the
mayor
did:
Jessica
zlag
and
her
team
within
the
planning
department,
the
planning
team
within
planning
and
development
services
who
who
really
shepherded
us
this
ordinance
through
a
long
twisty
process.
D
It
was
57
years
ago
that
the
city
adopted
the
ordinance
that
we
have
today
and
over
that
50
to
60
years
a
period
where,
again,
57
years
ago,
cities
in
this
country
were
creating
a
new
set
of
rules
and
over
that
50
60
years,
we've
now
seen
how
successful
those
ordinances
were.
The
the
growth
of
cities
over
the
past
50
and
60
years
is
characterized
by
exactly
what
was
what
was
encoded
with
those
ordinances
that
cities
created.
D
So
the
places
that
we
have
throughout
this
country
today
are
in
part
a
product
of
the
ordinances
that
were
created
when
Boise
created
its
last
one
57
years
ago
and
and
some
some
things
that
were
common
among
those
ordinances.
One
is
that
it
separated
everything.
You
know
this
whole
thing
of
those
ordinances
were
very
exclusionary.
The
the
history
of
zoning
is
an
exclusionary
one
that
that's
why
it
was
created
and
why,
in
the
60s
and
70s
cities,
cities
really
doubled
down
on
the
degree
to
which
zoning
ordinances
could
exclude
people
number
one
number
two.
D
They
were
drafted
with
the
idea
that
people
would
drive
to
do
everything
and
resulted
in
the
congested
cities
that
we
have
today.
They
resulted
in
the
great
struggle
that
we
have
creating
Transit.
They
are
in
in
large
part,
the
reason
that
we
are
so
frustrated
by
congestion
in
cities,
because
nobody
has
choices
for
ways
to
get
around,
and
the
last
one
I'll
mention
is
that
there
I
think
about
50
or
60
years
of
growth
in
cities
in
this
country.
D
So
we
know
what
that
kind
of
change
results
in
we're
not
in
a
place.
Nor
is
any
City
in
a
place
to
say
change
won't
happen.
Of
course
it
will.
You
know
we're
in
a
city,
change
happens
every
day.
The
only
thing
we
can
be
sure
about
is
that
things
will
change.
We
know
what
kind
of
change
that
would
lead.
Boise
too.
D
Let's
seek
to
solve
those
big
problems
and
also
create
a
stronger
community
in
the
process,
and-
and
we
think
that
zoning
is
an
important
decision
for
the
city
when
it
comes
to
those
things.
It's
not
the
only
decision.
There
are
so
many
things
we
have
to
do
as
a
community
to
address
those
big
problems,
but
zoning
is
an
important
one,
because
it's
the
basic
frame
around
which
we
direct
growth
of
this
city.
So
thank
you
to
everybody
who
participated
in
creating
what
I
think
is
a
pretty
extraordinary
proposal
for
Boise.
D
Regarding
that
process,
the
process
this
this
calendar
actually
goes
back
to
the
fall
of
2020..
That's
when
the
public
process
began
in
Earnest,
even
even
before,
then
the
city
had
engaged
a
consultant,
Clarion
Who
had
who
had
done
something
called
a
diagnostic.
Essentially,
an
evaluation
of
the
existing
zoning
ordinance
they'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
in
a
minute.
They
did
that
leading
up
to
the
big
public
process.
D
It
started
in
the
fall
of
2020
and
then
I'll
note
on
this
calendar
as
well,
the
winter
spring
of
2022
and
then
into
the
summer
of
2022,
because
it
was
at
that
time
so
a
year
to
18
months
ago
that
we
really
made
significant
changes
to
this
proposal.
That's
before
you,
because
of
the
public
discussion,
because
of
what
people
were
telling
us
about
how
they
wanted
to
achieve
the
goals
that
we
have
as
a
city.
D
So
there
was
a
big
shift
a
year
to
18
months
ago
in
terms
of
how
we
fundamentally
organized
these
regulations,
which
I'll
go
through.
So
this
took
us
through
on
the
beginning
of
this,
this
fiscal,
this
calendar
year,
which
I'll
get
into
a
little
bit
more
later
in
the
presentation
regarding
that
diagnostic
or
that
evaluation
of
the
existing
ordinance
that
Clarion
had
done
for
us.
D
Some
of
the
things
that
it
mentioned
and
I'll
just
highlight
a
few
of
them
here.
They
found
that
it
was
a
poor
fit
with
Boise's
planning
goals,
those
things
that
are
outlined
in
Blueprint
Boise,
poorly
designed
to
protect
what
people
think
makes
Boise
the
city
that
it
is
and
not
at
all,
adequately
focused
on
equity
and
inclusion.
D
What
was
being
drafted,
what
was
being
proposed
to
give
feedback
on
the
proposals
every
step
of
the
way
and
really
was
a
was
a
group
that
would
discuss
all
of
these
issues
in
depth
and
then,
following
their
discussion,
we
would
go
to
public
meetings
or
public
conversations,
open
houses
around
the
city,
so
they
were
instrumental
in
really
helping
draft.
What's
before
you
tonight,
I'm
sure
we'll
hear
from
a
few
of
them
this
week
the
amount
of
Outreach
that
occurred
during
this
long
multi-year
process.
As
I
said,
the
advisory
committee
matter
turns
out
23
times.
D
Another
thing
about
our
existing
ordinance-
and
this
is
evidence
that
we've
got
a
problem
or
or
the
amount
of
and
city
council
certainly
sees
this.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
see
it.
So
many
residents
have
to
devote
time
to
all
of
these
public
processes
that
we
have
that
basically
relate
to.
We
have
an
ordinance
that
doesn't
work
and
a
couple
of
examples
of
that
are
on
the
right
here.
So,
for
example,
we've
had
285
282
variances
over
the
last
five
years,
so
about
about
five
variances
per
month.
D
In
addition,
we've
had
245
plan
unit
developments
or
about
four
per
month
adopted
by
city
council.
So
remember
that
a
plan
unit
development
is
the
opposite
of
Equitable.
A
plan
unit
development
is
a
customized
zoning
ordinance
that
someone
has
to
create
and
get
approved
by
Council.
So
we've
got,
we've
got
even
in
the
last
five
years.
245
of
these
individual
custom
designed
zoning
districts
that
were
created
in
the
city
and
remember
you
don't
just
come
to
City
Council
on
a
whim.
You've
got
you've
got
a
team
of
Consultants.
D
You've
got
a
long
process
to
get
the
zoning
approved.
The
idea
that
we're
for
a
month
of
plan
unit
developments
is
all
the
evidence.
You
probably
need
that
we
have
an
ordinance
that
doesn't
work
and
doesn't
provide
a
consistent
level
of
expectations
for
people
as
to
how
they
can
build
in
the
city.
How
we
want
them
to
build
in
the
city.
A
D
Plans
that
the
community
did
that
are
especially
noteworthy
I
think
one
is
the
housing
needs
assessment,
which
was
done
a
few
years
ago,
and
it
found
that,
in
order
to
address
just
the
demand
we
have
for
housing
in
the
city,
which
is
an
important
thing
to
address.
If
we
care
about
housing,
affordability,
we
needed
to
approve,
we
needed
to
permit
2700
units
per
year,
we're
not
close
to
that,
we're
usually
less
than
half
of
that
units
that
we
permit
each
year.
D
So
we
have
a
basic
supply
and
demand
problem
in
the
city,
but
also
within
the
housing
needs
assessment.
That
was
done
a
couple
of
statements
here
that
are
important
ones,
that
we
should
be
seeking
to
have
a
balance
of
housing
types
so
that
we
can
build
beyond
our
big
inventory
of
single
family
detached
houses
that
we've
gotten
again
back
to
the
zoning
ordinance
of
1966,
which
envisioned
a
very
small
number
of
building
types.
D
In
fact,
outlawed
A,
diversity
of
building
types
that
we
get
back
and
allow
a
greater
diversity
of
building
types,
which
is
had
been
the
tradition
in
Boise.
We
need
a
greater
diversity
of
building
types
which
includes
multi-family
dwellings,
live
work,
opportunities,
all
kinds
of
buildings
in
the
city.
This
is
what
the
housing
needs
assessment
had
found
recently.
D
In
addition,
the
benefits
of
energy
efficient
buildings,
energy
efficient
buildings
will
be
lost
in
the
future
if
occupants
of
those
buildings
must
drive.
20
minutes
to
the
nearest
grocery
store
lots
of
statements
within
the
climate,
road
map
that
speak
to
how
that
development
pattern
is
integral
to
the
city
addressing
and
really
it's
the
opportunity
that
Boise
has
we
we
have.
D
We
sit
we're
in
a
city
that
sits
Within,
substantially
intact
landscape,
and
if
we
lose
that
and
as
we
grow,
then
we've
really
we've
missed
the
whole
challenge
around
climate
and
the
last
one
I'll
mention
is
the
transportation
action
plan
also
completed
a
few
few
years
ago.
A
couple
of
statements
from
it
one
is
that
land
use
policies
outlined
for
downtown
Boise
in
the
city's
Transit
corridors
and
mixed-use
activity.
Centers
are
intended
to
support
existing
and
future
Transit
and
enable
more
residents
the
ability
to
choose
alternative
modes
of
transportation.
D
The
CL,
the
the
the
city's
Transportation
action
plan,
was
speaking
to
this
issue
of
the
way
in
which
we
develop
the
land.
The
the
way
we
occupy
the
land
is
so
integral
to
whether
or
not
we'll
have
a
transportation
system
that
number
one
people
where
people
have
choices
and
we
can
avoid
the
what's
happened
in
so
many
cities,
as
it
relates
to
no
choice,
means
congestion
for
everybody.
D
So
the
thing
about
this,
this
ordinance
that
I
think
is
especially
exciting
for
Boise-
is
that
it
is.
It
is
really
shaped
to
be
of
this
physical
place,
so
this
is
something
that
rarely
is
done,
and
you
know
it's
been
since
1966
that
we
created
an
ordinance.
The
most
important
thing
that
we
should
be
doing
is:
we
should
be
be
creating
a
structure
of
development
in
the
city
that
is
commenter
with
the
physical
characteristics
of
Boise.
D
You
know,
since,
since
this
existing
ordinance
was
adopted,
we've
grown
it's
hard
to
really
tell
what
it
wants
in
the
city.
You
know
I
mean
it's
become
very
confusing
as
to
what
are
we
trying
to
be
as
a
city,
so
this
new
ordinance?
What
the
great
clarity
of
this
and
what
we're
really
excited
about
is
the
way
in
which
it
is
really
tied
to
the
physical
characteristics
of
the
city.
D
It
include
those
things
that
we
care
so
much
about
a
few
things
about
that.
The
first
is
this
idea
that
we're
building
where
we've
already
got
investment.
This
is
such
an
important
aspect
of
this
of
this
code.
It's
it's.
You
know
when
you
think
about
the
city
and
its
growth,
one
of
the
things
that
you
all
are
so
concerned
about,
and
we
must
care
so
much
about
is.
D
Can
we
afford
it
are
we
are
we
do
we
have
a
development
pattern
that
is,
that
is
building
on
the
infrastructure
that
we
have
and
is
of
a
type
that
we
can
service
most
efficiently
and
and
that's
why
we've
made
this
such
a
central
theme
within
this
ordinance
that
we've
got
to
grow
in
a
way
that
we're
not
constantly
spreading
our
services
and
infrastructure
further
and
further
from
the
city,
because
that
makes
us
less
economically
sustainable
as
a
city.
A
few
things
about
that.
The
first
is
our
downtown
district,
which
is
called
MX-5
So.
D
Currently
we
have
a
downtown
zoning
District
that
is
called
C5.
That
is
going
away.
We
now
have
MX-5
and
the
area
that's
covered
by
the
downtown
zoning
is
actually
bigger
than
the
current
C5
District.
So
it
includes
Shoreline
includes
the
lust
District,
so
we've
got
the
the
downtown
district,
which
has
no
density
limitations.
It
gets
rid
of
this
awkward,
not
appropriate,
far
requirement
in
the
downtown
area.
It
gets
rid
of
off
street
parking
requirements
in
the
downtown
areas.
D
You
know
we
have
some
areas
of
downtown
right
now
that
don't
have
Austria
parking
requirements,
but
some
do
because
you've
got
these
overlays,
it's
a
very
odd
thing.
So
the
the
MX-5
and
this
thing
downtown
the
core.
Where
we,
the
more
people
we
have
living
there,
the
better.
We
have
a
district
that
really
cleans
up
where
we've
got
an
adequate
inadequacies
with
the
current
downtown
district.
D
The
second
one,
that's
in
this
ordinance
again
related
to
this,
the
city
that
this
is
is
this
mx4
District
we're
only
applying
it
in
this
proposal
to
four
locations
on
State
Street,
where
the
city's
been
working
for
years
on
a
brt
line,
City
and
the
region,
lots
of
planning
done
and
those
four
stops
identified
on
on
State
Street.
So
we
have
this
Transit
oriented
District
here,
which
you
know
could
be
applied
other
places
in
the
future
as
we
advance
with
our
Transit
Investments.
D
D
D
We've
got
this
R2
conversion.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
proposed
in
this
ordinance
is
that,
along
those
corridors
again
Vista
State
and
Fairview-
that
for
the
properties
adjacent
to
the
the
corridors
themselves,
so
one
block
back
that
we
would
rezone
those
properties
to
R2,
which
is
a
little
denser.
So
you've
got
to
step
down
from
the
Main
Street
like
therapy,
then
down
to
this
R2,
which
is
still
just
residential,
but
it's
it's
it's
not
as
tall
as
you'd
have
on
that
Main
Street
and
then
down
to
the
single
family.
D
So
the
way
this
is
arranged
in
the
current
ordinance
or
what
we're
proposing
is
that
what
gets
rezoned
to
R2
is
essentially
an
eighth
of
a
mile
back
from
the
center
line
of
each
of
those
streets.
If
you're
in
that
area,
you
become
the
R2
so
again
back
to
creating
an
ordinance
districts
that
are
shaped
around
this
physical
place
and
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
the
R2
is
an
important
aspect
of
that.
D
We
decided
last
summer
to
keep
all
the
R1
districts
that
we've
got
so
there
was
talk
early
in
this
process
of
consolidating
those
districts
and
rather
than
having
the
ones
we
have.
We
would
consolidate
some
of
them
and
we
decided
not
to
do
that.
We
said,
let's
keep
all
of
them,
because
we've
got
a
variety
of
neighborhoods.
We
have
some
neighborhoods
with
very
large
Lots.
D
We
have
more
conventional
Suburban
ones.
We've
got
the
traditional
ones,
which
tend
to
be
older
than
compact
neighborhoods,
most
of
them
more
Center
to
the
city
and
urban
neighborhoods,
so
an
important
decision
so
that
that
we
would
acknowledge
the
variety
of
neighborhoods
we
have
and
we
would
encode
those
neighborhoods
within
this
new
ordinance.
D
The
next
thing
that
we
did
was
we,
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
We
wanted
to
shape
an
ordinance
around
the
city
that
we
have,
but
then
we
wanted
to-
and
this
again
was
a
year
to
18
months
ago,
when
we
really
started
to
talk
about
let's
Design
This
ordinance
such
that
the
things
that
we
want
to
achieve
as
a
city
are
are
Incorporated
such
that
their
incentives,
so
some
important
ones
here
so
within
those
R1
districts,
as
you
know
currently
in
the
city
today,
you've
got
the
right
to
do
two
units
on
any
lot.
D
So
one
thing
that
we
said
is:
if
you
go
above
those
two
units
we'd
allow
you
to
do
that.
But
if
you
do
that,
then
the
additional
units
have
to
be
affordable.
This
is
a
strong
message
from
the
community.
Last
year,
a
year
or
so
ago,
when
people
were
saying,
if
you
permit
this
additional
density
in
the
R1,
but
we're
not
getting
affordable
housing,
then
what
are
you
really
addressing
and
and
I
understand
the
argument?
Certainly,
the
part
of
this
is
just
Supply
and
and
having
more
units
is
helpful
and
that's
absolutely
true.
D
Clearly,
this
ordinance
is
designed
to
increase
Supply,
but
a
lesson
from
other
cities
that
we
feel
like.
That
was
an
important
point
that
was
being
made.
Is
we've
got
to
tie
the
affordability
to
that
increase
in
density,
so
we
created
that
incentive.
The
second
one
was
what
we
call
Strategic
infill,
a
very
important
one
again
coming
out
of
that
public
process
was
hey.
Let's
address
some
of
these
concerns
that
we've
heard
about
density
in
neighborhoods
and
go
ahead
and
design
an
incentive
that
speaks
to
those
those
concerns.
D
So
the
first
thing
is:
if
you've
got
a
property
on
a
busier
street,
so
a
collector
or
an
arterial
type
street.
We
have
many
homes
on
such
streets
in
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city,
completely
geographically,
representative
of
every
part
of
the
city
has
streets
like
that,
and
you've
got
a
vacant
lot
or
you
save
the
existing
structure
and
incorporate
that.
Then
you
can
actually
get
up
to
12
units.
You
get
four
by
right,
then
you
can
do
five
to
eight
provided.
D
One
of
those
units
is
Affordable
and
you
can
do
9
to
12
if
two
of
them
are
the
idea
being
again.
Let's
address
some
of
the
concerns
we've
heard
about
where
these
are
located:
okay,
busier
streets
number
one
number:
two,
not
encouraging
the
demolition
of
existing
structures,
vacant
lot
or
reuse
the
existing
structure
and
then
tying
some
affordability
to
those
increases
in
density.
The
idea
throughout
this
ordinance,
of
course,
is
that
we
somehow
that
we
can
achieve
some
level
of
affordability
throughout
the
city,
not
in
one
particular
area,
but
in
every
neighborhood.
D
D
Let
me
get
to
that
as
it
relates
to
housing
options,
so
the
the
way
this
is
broken
down,
of
course,
is
that
we've
got
neighborhood
scale,
homes
and
neighborhoods.
So
this
is
not
proposing
that
we
do
anything
but
enable
within
our
neighborhoods
housing
types
that
traditionally
have
been
there.
You
know
a
single
family
house
or
a
duplex
or
a
small
apartment
building
or
a
Cottage
Court.
D
That's
what
it's
proposing
for
neighborhoods
when
you
think
of
the
structure
of
the
city,
that's
a
hugely
important
part
of
it
that
we
have
the
neighborhood
scale,
which
this
is
suggesting.
We
have
a
greater
diversity
of
housing
within
those
areas,
but
then
we
have
taller
more
compact
buildings
on
Transit
corridors
and
downtown
and
activity
centers.
That's
that's
what
gives
us
the
ability
to
have
a
greater
option
of
housing,
but
in
places
that
are
appropriate
where
density
is
helpful,
again
develop
creating
a
development
pattern?
That's
predictable.
D
I
want
to
make
note
of
a
few
of
these
bullets
here.
One
is
a
line:
approval
processes
to
desired
outcomes,
again
lesson
from
other
cities
here
or
even
over
the
past
few
years.
If
you
create
and
enable
new
types
of
development
to
address
these
issues,
especially
like
how
especially
housing
affordability,
but
you
don't
address
the
way
that
your
process
works,
then
you're
going
to
be
very
frustrated
because
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
build.
What
you're
saying
you
want.
So
we've
got
to
address
this
issue
of
you
know.
D
We
said
it
a
lot
during
the
public
processes.
We
want
to
put
the
community
in
a
position
where
they
can
help
make
this
ordinance
successful,
not
just
design
our
arguments
but
but
actually
figure
out.
How
do
we
put
the
community
in
a
position
to
ensuring
this
ordinance
is
successful?
And
we
do
that
by
addressing
the
processes
of
approval,
aggressing
our
climate
goals,
of
course,
and
and
I'll
mention
the
the
assured
water
supply.
That's
part
of
this
ordinance.
D
Of
course,
this
is
new
for
the
city
and
we
think
a
very
important
element
of
the
ordinance
is
that
we
ensure
that
there's
water
supply
associated
with
new
development
in
the
city
Transportation
options
again
that
the
development
pattern
supports
the
investment
in
transit,
that
neighborhoods
have
things
to
walk
to.
We've
included
the
side,
the
neighborhood
cafe
or
small
retail
component
of
this
ordinance,
so
that
we
can
have
those
things
in
more
parts
of
the
city.
D
We've
traditionally
had
them
in
Boise,
but
this
ordinance
proposes
to
permit
buy
right,
neighborhood,
Cafe,
small
retail
in
our
neighborhoods,
safe
and
comfortable
environment
for
all
users
of
our
of
our
streets
and
make
sure
that
people
can
get
around
around
safely
and
conveniently
and
then
that
we
acknowledge
that
we're
in
this
we're
in
a
specific
place.
You
know
we
have
this
intact
landscape
that
the
city
sits
within.
If,
in
the
process
of
growth,
we
lose
that,
then
we've
lost
what
the
city
is.
D
That's
what
we've
seen
cities
do
for
the
past
50
60
years
is
the
growth
of
the
place
has
literally
destroyed
the
landscape
they
sit
within.
We
can't
let
that
happen
in
Boise.
No
one
is
interested
in
that
I.
Don't
think
I
mean
the
idea
that
we
grow
by
by
moving
into
the
desert
and
farmland
and
the
hills
that
that
is
a
that
is
a
prescription
for
losing
everything
that
makes
this
place
what
it
is,
and
this
air
ordinance
is
very
intentionally
about
ensuring
that
that
is
something
Boise
doesn't
have
to
accommodate
in
order
to
grow.
D
D
D
D
The
first
is
the
zoning
code
amendment
to
repeal
and
replace
our
chapter
11
of
the
city
code,
which
is
the
zoning
ordinance,
and
then
we've
got
amendments
to
the
comprehensive
plan.
It
the
Amendments.
The
comprehensive
plan
are
minor
ones
that
just
address
the
change
in
nomenclature
and
so
forth.
The
the
different.
E
D
Districts
we're
proposing
this
is
the
zoning
ordinance
that's
before
you.
It
includes
all
these
sections,
including
17
zoning
districts,
the
youth
regulations,
design
and
development
standards
and
so
forth.
That
is
the
ordinance
that
is
before
city
council,
but
it
also
has
a
a
new
map
for
the
city,
so
we've
got
a
conversion
map
that
that
rezones
property
in
the
city,
based
on
a
set
of
rules
which
we
published
and
are
part
of
the
ordinance.
D
In
addition,
anything
that's
happening
between
now
and
the
effective
day
you
know
ultimately
will
be
converted
once
the
ordinance
that
we,
if
Council,
adopts
the
ordinance
this
week,
the
things
that
come
into
the
city
or
are
rezoned
between
now
and
the
effective
date
would
also
get
rezoned
based
on
the
conversion
map.
Once
once,
the
new
ordinance
becomes
effective.
D
The
comprehensive
plan
tax
amendment
we're
placing
references
to
the
existing
zoning
districts
with
the
new
proposed
districts,
replacing
the
term
land
use
map
with
future
land
use
map.
We
did
update
the
airport
influence
language
to.
There
was
some
confusion
there
about
the
airport
influence
areas
within
the
comprehensive
plan,
so
we
made
those
changes
with
regard
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
recommendation.
As
I
mentioned,
we.
D
D
Ultimately,
they
could
be
incorporated
into
the
development
review
process
importance
of
coordinating
with
Valley
Regional
Transit.
Obviously,
Transit
is
fundamental
to
the
way
in
which
we're
shaping
the
zoning
ordinance.
The
importance
of
that
coordination,
the
implementation
of
performance
measures
to
the
ordinance
which
we're
actually
preparing
right
now.
D
So,
depending
on
council's
decision
this
week,
we
would
be
prepared
if,
if
it
is
approved
by
Council
and
becomes
effective,
that
we'd
have
a
way
to
measure
those
the
success
of
the
ordinance
discussion
around
how
much
time
neighborhood
associations
get
at
public
hearings
and
then
consideration
for
notification
of
neighbors
and
cases
of
type
2
applications.
This
has
to
do
with
Development
building
in
the
ordinance,
which
is
does
not
include
a
public
hearing.
The
discussion
was
around.
D
In
those
cases,
could
the
neighbors
get
notified
a
little
bit
more
about
what
we've
shared
with
Council
since
since
the
Planning
Commission
deliberation
of
this-
and
this
was
in
a
memo
that
I
sent
to
you
on
June
1st,
but
there
were
edits
just
kind
of
redlined
corrections
to
be
made.
This
was
this
was
sent
to
the
Planning
Commission
before
their
hearings.
We
we
do
if
Council
decides
to
deliberate
and
and
approve
this
ordinance.
D
We
also
included
in
our
recent
memo
to
you
some
changes
that
we're
proposing
some
of
this
basically
just
comes
from
the
public
discussion
that
we
had
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission,
just
a
reference.
The
first
one
is
just
a
reference
to
the
conversion
table.
The
second
thing
released
the
airport,
influence
areas
and
confusion,
true
confusion
around
the
influence
areas
versus
the
noise
exposure,
Maps
or
just
getting
rid
of
the
noise
exposure
map
reference
and
just
referencing
the
influence
areas,
discussion
about
the
wooi
fence
requirements
and
Clarity
around
that.
D
D
A
typo
on
the
duplex
Triplex
fourplexes,
deleting
the
section
on
sidewalk
cafe,
and
this
came
up
because
the
city
actually
has
a
separate
chapter
of
its
code
related
to
sidewalk
cafes
and
by
including
it
here
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
We
felt
it
was
creating
more
confusion,
and
so
what
we'd
like
to
do
with
sidewalk
cafes
is
and
what
we're
proposing
is
to
delete
that
section
and
let's
come
back
to
the
discussion
around
sidewalk
cafes
as
it
relates
to
the
chapter
of
the
city
code
that
actually
deals
with
side.
D
Sidewalk
cafes,
we
had
some
recommendations
for
changes
to
the
manufactured
home.
Section
of
the
ordinance
that
came
from
manufactured
home
industry,
and
so
we
thought
those
were
really
good
suggestions,
so
we
incorporated
them
into
this
ordinance.
It's
outlined
in
that
memo
that
we
sent
you.
We
did
make
some
changes
to
the
setbacks
for
small
detached
accessory
structures
on
properties.
Y'all
will
remember
a
recent
discussion
around
a
small
shed
that
somebody
was
putting
on
their
property
and
it
was
a
lot
of
effort
and
pain
over
something
that
wasn't
necessary.
So
we
shifted
some
standards
there.
D
The
removal
of
Surety
bonds
is
a
form
of
financial
Security
in
the
cases
of
improvements
that
people
have
to
make
in
a
subdivision
and
so
forth.
Updating
the
language
on
assured
water
supply
a
lot
of
thanks
to
Steve,
Hubble
and
public
works
department
in
the
city
who's
been
working
with
us
on
this.
We've
got
an
updated
version
of
that
language
based
on
their
their
continued
refinement
of
those
standards
to
make
sure
they
work
as
well
as
they
can.
D
We've
added
a
timeline
for
the
interdepartmental
review,
as
it
relates
to
the
neighborhood
meeting,
so
that
someone
has
to
get
to
an
interdepartmental
meeting
four
months
after
no
more
than
four
months
after
they
have
a
neighborhood
meeting.
The
concern
was
that
people
would
have
a
neighborhood
meeting
and
then
wait
for
long
periods
of
time
before
they
actually
submit
for
approval.
So
we
want
to
avoid
that
just
a
small
change
as
it
relates
to
you
utilities
changing
the
word
control
to
regulated,
and
then
we
did
bring
back
the
minor.
D
The
the
record
of
survey
in
the
ordinance
we're
proposing
to
eliminate
the
record
of
survey
as
an
option
for
subdivision
of
small
small
subdivisions
of
property
were
proposing
to
bring
that
back
for
cases
where
you've
got
development.
That's
taking
advantage
of
the
incentives
that
we
have
in
the
ordinance
related
to
affordability.
So
if
you're
coming
in
and
you're
you're
doing
an
affordable
housing
development
based
on
our
incentives
than
you
would
have
the
right
to
go
to
a
record
of
survey,
a
few
things
that
are
not
addressed
in
this
ordinance.
D
So
those
are
all
matters
that
were
within
the
ordinance.
A
few
things
that
we
did
not
address,
we
mentioned
these
just
because
there
were
times
during
the
process
where
they
were
very
much
a
dominant
discussion
within
the
public
meetings.
One
is
Wireless
Communications.
The
city
had
gone
through
a
process
fairly
recently
within
the
last
two
years
to
update
our
standards
around
Wireless
Communications,
we're
not
proposing
to
change
those
in
this.
D
It's
an
interesting
aspect
of
you
know
or
consideration
as
it
as
it
relates
to
how
we
how
we
Design
This
ordinance
with
all
these
incentives,
but
it
does
not
include
what
you
would
probably
Define
as
inclusionary
zoning
we're
not
addressing
short-term
rentals.
That's
something
that
the
city
did
very
recently
and
the
last
thing
is:
we
had
a
huge
discussion
around
shelters,
of
course,
about
a
year
or
so
ago,
which
resulted
in
the
approval
of
a
shelter
on
State
Street.
D
D
We
felt
like
that
would
really
be
an
understandable
distraction
if
we
really
brought
that
into
this
ordinance.
So
we
want
to
put
that
off
till
later,
as
it
relates
to
the
findings
for
approval
after
Council
holds
these
hearings
this
week
and
we
have
all
the
Q
a
and
discussion
around.
This
proposed
ordinance
in
council's
deliberation.
D
If
there
is
a
if
there
is
a
emotion
and
a
vote
to
approve
this,
we've
got
again
number
one,
the
zoning
ordinance
repeal
and
replace
on
chapter
11
and
the
things
that
you
would
find
that
it
comply,
complies
and
and
conforms
to
the
comprehensive
plan
that
it
establishes
a
set
of
land
use
and
design
standards
that
are
consistent
with
blueprint
Boise
and
the
65
recommendations
of
blueprint.
Boise
I
noted
a
few
of
those
tonight
it's
clearly.
The
whole
purpose
of
this
is
to
create
an
ordinance
that
actually
is
and
is
consistent
with
blueprint.
D
D
So
in
conclusion,
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
recommended
unanimously
for
approval
of.
What's
before
you
this
week,
we
will
need
emotion,
approval
of
both
the
zoning,
the
replacement
of
our
zoning
ordinance
chapter
11,
as
well
as
the
comprehensive
plan
amendments
with
the
Amendments
noted
in
that
April
13th
memo
that
went
to
the
Planning
Commission
before
their
public
hearings,
as
well
as
we're
recommending
those
changes
that
we
outline
for
you
on
June
1st
and
then
one
thing
that
we
will
have
to
do
this
week.
D
G
I
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
put
into
this
I
want
to
thank
all
the
staff
for
all
the
work
that
they
put
into
this
the
advisory
committee,
the
neighborhood
associations,
everyone
who's
testified.
Thank
you
for
being
part
of
this
process
and
thanks
to
fellow
council
members
in
the
mayor
as
well
question
just
as
far
as
like
process
goes
so
at
the
end
of
this.
Hopefully
on
Thursday,
we
have
a
decision
to
make
and
the
decision
could
be.
G
We
don't
like
this
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
deny
this.
We
could
vote
to
approve
it
or
there's
a
third
option
where
you
could
vote
to
approve
it
and
potentially
you're
making
some
changes
along
the
way
changes
could
be.
Potentially
major
changes
could
be
minor
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
kind
of
walk
us
through
that
process
of
if
you
voted
to
approve,
but
some
or
if
you
during
this
testimony,
somebody
gave
a
really
really
great
idea
and
you're
like
we
actually
should
change
this.
D
Mayor
council,
member
Halliburton,
you
are
correct
that
third
option
is
certainly
one
before
Council
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact
you
could,
you
could
describe
what
we've
provided
to
you,
as
as
an
example
of
that,
so
we've
provided
you
with
a
memo
on
June
1st,
which
recommends
a
list
of
changes
that
we
felt
were
important
based
on
the
public
discussion.
That's
gone
on
since
this
was
introduced
in
February,
so
council
member.
What
would
happen
is
is
if
that
was
that
third
option
was
the
one
the
council
chose
is
just.
H
D
G
Amen
mayor
just
to
follow
up
on
that
one.
So
as
council
members
up
here
who
have
you
know
quite
a
bit
of
knowledge,
but
maybe
not
experts
on
you
know
some
of
the
exact
ways
that
would
be
written
in
code.
We
would
tell
you
what
the
intention
of
what
we
wanted
to
be
changed
would
be,
and
then
staff
would
go
back
and
they
would
actually
make
sure
that
that
language
worked
was
correct
and
had
the
ability
to
put
in
there
in
some
sort
of
additional
findings
or
revised
findings
for
a
future
vote.
I
G
D
Council
member,
thank
you
for
raising
that
I
thought.
Oh
here,
it
is.
Okay,
I
skipped
right
over
that
this.
This
is
on
our
list
number
11
here,
off-premise
signs,
which
is
a
billboard
and
what
were
what
was
included
within
our
memo
on
June
1st-
is
that
we
go
back
to
the
existing
dwell
time
that
we
have
within
the
ordinance.
You
know
for
for
a
digital
board,
how
how
much
time
it
can
stay
static.
G
A
If
you
have
a
list,
whether
it
be
the
list
of
technical
changes,
that
staff
has
recommended,
or
other
things
you'd
like
to
change
based
on
community
feedback,
that
you
direct
staff
to
incorporate
those
changes
into
the
ordinance
as
we
go
through
the
reading
process.
If
you
decide
to
move
it
to
reading.
J
By
the
mayor,
Tim,
thank
you
so
much
and
as
somebody
who
has
been
in
this
process
now
I
think
for
15
years,
since
we
developed
our
comprehensive
plan.
It's
pretty
gratifying
to
see
all
of
the
work
that's
gone
in
all
of
the
neighborhoods
being
involved,
and
everyone
really
coming
together
and
telling
us
how
much
they
care
about
our
city
and
about
the
future
of
our
city
and
how
it's
going
to
look
and
feel
and
act
for
our
residents
now
and
into
the
future.
J
D
Mayor
councilmember
weddings.
Yes,
thank
you
for
raising
that
as
well.
I
skipped
over
in
one
of
the
slides
one
of
the
slides
about
the
city's
goals
has
to
do
with
landscape
and
tree
canopy,
and
there
are
elements
of
this
new
ordinance
that
do
speak
directly
to
that.
Some
of
it
relates
to
landscape
standards
that
don't
require
Landscaping.
That
is
so
water
consumptive.
There's
that
aspect
of
this
code
there's
also
new
tree
planting
requirements
in
the
code
that
that
includes
more
type,
3
trees.
D
So
in
the
Cities
Tree
standards,
the
type
treat
three
tree
is
the
largest
canopy
trees
and
we
have
very
few
places
in
the
existing
code
that
permit
or
require
type
3
trees.
So
we've
added
the
type
three,
the
largest
canopy
trees
to
part
of
our
requirements
within
this
ordinance.
So
that's
a
change.
We
worked
closely
with
the
city's
Forester
around
these
changes,
such
that
the
tree
standards
in
this
ordinance
are
ones
that
the
city
has
been
aspiring
to
for
quite
some
time.
D
J
K
I
I
really
feel
so
strongly
that
this
is
the
most
important
thing
that
we
can
be
doing
as
a
city
and
then,
as
the
city
leaders,
the
zoning
code
and
the
land
use
touches
everything
we've
been
working
on
it
for
five
years.
The
amount
of
public
participation
has
been
truly
incredible.
The
amount
of
staff
time
and
the
amount
of
human
hours
that
have
gone
into
this
is
probably
uncountable.
K
So
I
want
to
express
by
gratitude
that
such
an
important
thing
has
gotten
that
attention
and
I
wanted
to
call
to
attention
something.
You
touched
on
very
briefly
and
ask
you
to
elaborate
on
it,
because
I
think
it
is
one
of
the
coolest
things
about
this
draft,
and
that
is
the
relationship
between
the
shape
of
this
new
code
and
the
current
shape
of
our
city.
K
In
other
words,
instead
of
sitting
down
with
a
big
sheet
of
paper
and
an
empty
Western
landscape
and
laying
out
you
know,
the
manufacturing
will
be
here
and
the
houses
will
be
here.
We've
done
something
quite
different.
Everybody's
done
something
quite
different.
In
putting
this
together
we
have
a
river,
we
have
the
transportation
corridors.
We
have
the
things
that
we
cherish
and
value
like
the
Open
Spaces
surrounding
it.
K
D
Well,
mayor,
council,
member
Bajan,
I
think
you're.
Thank
you
for
raising
this
issue
again
because
it
really,
when
you
think
about
creating
a
new
zoning
ordinance
for
the
first
time
in
60
years.
This
is
the
fundamental
issue
which
is
that
you
organize
your
regulations
around
the
Physical
City
that
you
are
and
the
way
you
want
that
physical
City
to
change
the
the
that
we
and-
and
you
know
it's
it's
not
what's
being
proposed-
is
not
one
solution
to
our
problems.
What
this
ordinance
includes
is
many
solutions
to
all
these
issues.
D
It's
not
a
one
headline,
zoning
ordinance
that
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
degree
to
which
we
were
concerned,
that
we
that
we
insured
that
the
Physical
City
was
understood
and
represented
in
this
set
of
regulations.
So
this
issue
of
protecting
the
intent
attack
landscape
around
us
I
mean
that
is
foremost
in
our
thinking
is
if
we
are
to
have
success
in
that,
and
it's
not
easy.
D
You
know
that
that
was
a
new
idea
for
everybody.
We
became
experts
in
it,
and
so
now
we
have
this
chance
to
become
an
expert
in
something
else
which
is
growing
within
ourselves
and
for
that
to
work
and
for
people
to
welcome
it
over
time.
It
has
to
be
built
on
the
physical
place
that
we
are
as
a
city.
That's
the
most
important
thing
you
can
take
any
one
of
these
individual
standards
or
any
of
the
incentives
and
beat
them
up
and
discuss
them,
move
them
around
change
them.
D
D
Yes,
we'll
continue
to
evaluate
how
the
standards
themselves
work
and
how
those
incentives
work,
how
successful
they
are
and
we'll
keep
working
to
make
them
more
and
more
successful.
But
we
think
we
got
the
shape
right
and
we
can
address
those
big
goals,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
a
round
of
housing,
affordability
and
Mobility
and
addressing
the
landscape
around
us
in
a
way
that
protects
it.
It
gives
us
that
chance,
because
it's
built
on
this
physical
place
and
that's
rarely
done.
L
Director
Keane,
thank
you
so
much
I'll,
just
Echo,
my
colleagues,
praise
I
know
this
has
been
a
long
haul.
There's
been
a
lot
of
effort.
That's
gone
into
this
and
we're
at
this
point.
I
just
appreciate
the
staff
and
all
that
they've
done
to
answer
our
questions
and
answer
the
community's
questions
and
and
the
gravity
of
what
we're
doing
here
and
I
I.
Don't
think
it's
lost
on
anybody
that
this
is
the
most
important
thing
that
we
do
as
create
the
kind
of
city
that
we
want
to
live
in.
L
I
want
to
put
a
finer
point
on
the
water
regulation
piece
about
the
assured
water
supply.
You
know
we
all
understand
that
we
live
in
a
desert.
The
water
is
gold.
The
importance
of
of
clean
water,
The
Memo
from
June
talks
about
there's
some
concerns.
That's
come
up
about
this
piece,
whether
we're
in
the
right
lane.
D
Mayor
councilmember,
Willits
I
I'm,
happy
to
speak
to
this
I
think
we
might
have.
Oh
yes,
Steve,
Hubble
and
Mary
Grant
are
here
and
they've
really
been
working
on
this
language,
especially
since
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission,
because
we
did
get
that
feedback
that
you
mentioned
and
they've
been
working
to
make
this
a
better
and
better
version
of
the
ordinance
I
might
ask
them
to
speak
to
this
Mary.
M
Madame
mayor
council
members
with
respect
to
that
regulatory
regulatory
Authority,
as
you
mentioned,
there
are
several
State
agencies
that
do
regulate
various
aspects
of
it.
I'll
try
to
summarize
and
just
capture
as
best
as
possible,
so
we've
got
like
I
would
say
three
primary
agencies:
one
is
the
Idaho
Department
of
Water
Resources,
they're,
primarily
responsible
for
the
appropriation
of
water
rights.
So
they'll
tell
you
whether
you
have
a
router
right
and
what
that
beneficial
use
would
be.
M
The
third
one
is
with
respect
to
Department
of
Environmental
Quality,
and
they
really
are
what
regulate
the
water
quality
aspects,
and
they
also
so
some
of
the
changes
that
you
saw
proposed.
They
also
look
at
Financial
capability
infrastructure
for
delivery
of
that
capacity.
Idaho
Department
of
Water
Resources
also
looks
at
some
of
that.
M
L
M
If
the
city
were
to
deny
an
application
with
respect
to
this
water
supply,
it
would
not
affect
any
of
the
regular
State
regulated
aspects
of
that
water.
It
would
only
so,
for
example,
if
we
denied
an
application,
it
wouldn't
then
turn
around
and
require
violia
to
do
something.
With
respect
to
that
development,
it
would
only
really
be
a
denial
with
respect
to
that
particular
land
use
application,
nothing
that
would
I
guess
breach
the
lane
or
cross
the
lane
over
into
a
different
aspect.
That
would
affect
some
State
regulated
aspect.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you.
I
had
a
question
about
the
general
provisions
of
this
I
when
I
first
started
reading
through
my
my
book,
The
purpose
statement
really
kind
of
struck
me
as
like,
really
hitting
the
nail
on
the
head
and
I
just
wanted
to
see.
If
you
have
some
Insight
some
history
into
how
that
purpose
statement
that
went
into
this
code
was
developed,
who
it
was
developed
with
kind
of
who
was
involved.
In
that
conversation.
D
J
So
some
of
the
things
that
I
highlighted
in
this,
so
this
is
a
seven
part
purpose
statement.
It
talks
about
affordable
and
fair
housing,
Economic
Opportunity,
diverse
inclusive
communities,
a
variety
of
housing
choices,
protecting
natural
areas,
achieving
an
integrated
approach
to
land
use
and
transportation,
with
high
quality,
Urban
Design
and
protecting
the
city's
historic
resources.
So
it
really
was
like
this
overarching
value
statement
that
I
saw
reflected
throughout
this,
and
so
I
was
just
kind
of
curious
like
how
did
how
did
that
get
developed?
You
know
who
was
involved
in
creating
this
purpose
statement.
D
Well,
the
development
of
the
purpose
statement
started
late
last
year
and
and
I
think
really
is
intended
to
be
reflective
of
blueprint
Boise.
So
if
you
take
the
language
that
you
see
now
in
that
purpose,
statement,
you'll
recognize
much
of
it
from
statements
in
Blueprint
Boise
that
were
adopted
by
City
Council
in
2011..
So
really
it
was
the
team
working
on
the
ordinance
itself,
Jessica's
team
and
the
planning
department,
the
Consultants,
but
really
the
the
content
of
it
came
from
blueprint.
Boise.
J
That
is
great
history.
It's
just
it's
kind
of
an
it's
a
really
fun
full
circle
moment
for
those
of
us
who
are
around
back
then,
when
we
were
developing
and
adopting
blueprint
Boise
and
then
when
I
came
to
council
I,
remember
chatting
with
Cody
riddle
back
then
I
was
like.
When
are
we
gonna?
You
know,
update
our
zoning
code
and
I
had
a
lot
to
learn
about
the
comprehensive
plan
and
how
it
interacted
with
the
zoning
code.
J
So
I
think
it's
wonderful
to
recognize
that
history
of
we've
been
working
on
this
for
a
long
time.
There's
a
lot
of
people
in
the
city
who
were
involved
in
Blueprint
Boise
and
now
have
been
involved
in
conversations
on
how
we
put
blueprint
Boise
into
an
actual
zoning
code.
That
makes
sense
and
create
you
know
really
is
where
the
rubber
hits
the
road
on
creating
that
vision
for
the
future
of
our
city.
G
Tim
a
couple
of
technical
things
for
you,
so
you
had
a
slide
that
had
some
recommendations
from
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission.
For
us
to
take
a
look
at
there,
we
go
I've
got
some
questions,
I
think
specifically
about
the
last
two
first,
one
being
where
it
says,
evaluate
the
time
neighborhood
associations
are
provided
at
public
hearings
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
tell
us
what
exists
now
and
then
also
what
exists
in
the
zoning
code
proposed
zoning
code.
D
Mayor
council,
member
Hallie
Burton,
the
what's
proposed
in
the
ordinance
that's
before
you
this
week,
is
that
neighborhood
associations
would
be
given
five
minutes
at
any
public
hearing.
The
existing
ordinance
I
am
going
to
have
to
ask
for
some
help
on,
because
we've
discussed
this
I
don't
know
DN
ID.
D
C
Men,
American
council
members,
for
the
record.
My
name
is
Jessica
zielag
I'm,
the
deputy
planning
director
and
I.
Don't
have
the
language
right
in
front
of
me,
but
it
stays
in
the
current
code
today
that
the
time
for
neighborhood
associations
at
hearings
to
provide
testimony-
and
it
depends
on
if
they're,
the
appellant
or
during
the
original
presentation
could
be
at
the
discretion
of
the
hearing
body
or
the
time
to
match
the
applicants
and
so
over
time.
C
D
Councilmember
Hallie
Burton
you're
exactly
correct,
and
thank
you
for
pointing
out
that
the
concern
we
heard
from
so
many
neighborhoods
was
just
the
fact
that
they
couldn't
count
on
a
specific
amount
of
time
at
the
public
hearing.
So
we
did
incorporate
the
five
minutes,
but
there
were
some
at
the
pnz
hearings
that
were
requesting
more
than
five
minutes
and.
G
And
madamira
I
don't
think
that
there's
anything
else
in
the
code,
in
addition
to
that,
as
far
as
any
other
requirements
or
anything
else,
it's
just
basically
outlines
you
would
have
five
minutes
and
that's
actually
I
think
even
different
than
an
appeal,
because
that
would
be
a
different
time
frame.
This
is
just
in
response
to
an
application
that
comes
in
front
of
council
and
there's
no
real
other
guidance
Beyond,
just
the
five
minutes
kind
of
guaranteed
time.
It
would
be.
D
G
D
So
one
important
aspect
of
this
ordinance
is
so
the
ordinances
zoning
ordinances
are
somewhat
complex:
they're
they're
regulations
for
thousands
of
properties
over
in
Boise's
case
about
85
square
miles
and
addressing
construction.
That
could
be
the
addition
to
a
house
or
the
addition
of
a
small
shed
on
your
property
to
a
a
20
or
30
story
building,
so
there's
some
complexity
to
them.
D
What
we,
what
we're
seeking
to
do
with
this
is,
is
simplify
it
by
creating
these
four
types
of
approvals,
type,
one,
two
three
and
four,
and
in
the
case
of
type
1
and
2
approvals,
there's
no
public
hearing
associated
with
those
back
to
the
point
of
let's
put
the
community
in
a
position
to
help
make
this
ordinance
successful.
How
do
we
make
the
things
that
we
want
easier
to
do?
That
includes
less
unpredictable
process,
so
we
put
those
things
in
type
two.
D
But
this
one
relates
to
those
type
twos
which
don't
require
public
hearing,
and
the
discussion
was
could
in
those
cases,
if
we
get
an
application
for
a
type
2.
When
we
have
that
application
and
we've
reviewed
it
and
approved
it,
can
we
notify
the
neighbors.
So
there
was
a
variety
of
ways
in
which
that
was
expressed.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
related
to
it'd
be
good.
If
we
know-
and
others
can
speak
to
this-
we've
got
hours
of
public
discussion
coming
up.
E
D
G
We
have
a
dashboard
that
we're
already
planning,
so
people
can
kind
of
follow
development,
that's
going
in
their
area,
but
that
notification
might
be
so
if
somebody
saw
that,
maybe
they
didn't
like
it
and
they
wanted
to
appeal,
then
there's
the
potential
from
that
to
go
from
being
approved
by
staff.
To
then
having
to
go
to.
Is
it
the
hearing
examiner.
D
G
L
Mayor
Tim,
you've
done
a
nice
job
of
talking
about
the
process
and
the
goals
and
we've
had
the
privilege
of
having
regular
updates
on
this,
and
you
know
it
is.
It
is
massive
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
take
us
through
a
little
bit
of
History,
particularly
before
we
hear
from
our
neighborhood
friends
about
some
big
buckets
of
changes
that
have
happened
along
the
way
to
help
us
remind
us
of
where
we've
come.
Yeah.
D
Thank
you,
mayor,
councilmember
Willits.
Thank
you
for
that
and
thank
you
for
highlighting
it,
because
I
did
kind
of
hit
on
it,
some
in
my
presentation,
but
it's
an
important
piece
to
pull
out
and
actually
discuss
and
highlight,
because
it's
it's
a
way
in
which
the
community
very
much
had
a
role
in
shaping
the
basics
of
this
ordinance.
So
last
spring
there
was
a
series
of
public
meetings
that
went
on
in
Boise.
D
Council
participated
in
many
of
them,
but
when
the
when
the
first
draft
of
what
was
called
modules,
one
and
two
were
presented
so
modules,
one
and
two
or
phases,
one
and
two
of
the
ordinance
had
to
do
with
the
the
zoning
districts
themselves.
You
know
what
what
what
would
be
these
zones
that
we
we
would
create
in
the
city,
these
new
zones
and
then
what
would
the
regulations,
the
design
standards
around
those
zones
be
so
those
the
first
draft
of
those?
D
First,
two
modules
happened
in
the
spring
of
winter
of
2021
and
then
the
spring
of
2022,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
animosity
and
resistance
to
them.
The
others
can
characterize
it,
but
but
but
it
was,
it
was
a
it
was.
We
were
kind
of
stuck
at
that
time,
because
there
was
so
much
resistance
to
the
basic
proposals
within
the
ordinance
and
honestly
I
would
characterize
it
a
little
bit
as
the
ordinance
was
drafted
as
kind
of
an
implementation
of
theories.
D
You
know
it
was
it
was.
It
was
that's
that's
kind
of
what
we
were
presenting
in
modules.
One
and
two
was
here's
a
theory
about
how
we
could
change
the
city.
It
was
not
specific
to
this
city
and-
and
people
may
not
have
expressed
it
that
way,
but
they
really
responded
negatively
to
the
point
where
it
was
a
question:
is
this
even
gonna?
How
are
we
gonna
deal
with
this?
So
council,
member
Willits,
the
big
changes,
I,
wouldn't.
A
C
C
D
The
reason
I
mentioned
the
one
headline
this
isn't
unique
to
Boise,
but
in
Boise's
case
last
summer
it
was
let's
go
from
two
La
two
units
on
any
individual
lot
to
four
units
on
any
individual
lot
and
remember
at
that
time,
council
member
Willits
we're
proposing
to
consolidate
the
single-family
zones.
The
R1
districts.
D
We've
got
three
of
them
at
the
time
we
were
saying:
let's
make
it
two:
let's
get
rid
of
the
largest
lot
of
the
single
family,
let's
make
it
to
and
then
on
any
of
those
you
can
just
do
four
units
that
was
the
one
headline
of
the
ordinance:
don't
pay
any
attention
to
the
rest
of
this,
which
has
nothing
to
do
with
Boise.
It
was
just
this
one
headline
and
this
one
solution
to
to
all
these
problems.
D
We
have,
let's
put
all
of
our
problems
on
the
backs
of
this
one
decision
we
might
make
well
that
didn't
make
sense
to
people,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
concern
about
it.
Concern
is
a
very
friendly
term
in
light
of
what
was
happening
at
those
public
meetings.
You'll
remember
this,
so
the
shift
that
was
made
was
the
issue
of
the
incentives
number
one:
okay.
D
If
we
let's
keep
the
three
R1
districts,
we're
not
going
to
eliminate
one
of
the
R1
districts,
we're
going
to
keep
all
three
we've
got
a
unique
set
of
neighborhoods
in
the
city.
Let's
acknowledge
that
and
keep
all
three
number
two
and
and
again
this
was
very
much
you'll.
Remember
these
hearings,
where
this
was
discussed
so
much.
How
is
it
helpful
to
us
if,
on
a
single
family
lot
in
a
neighborhood
somewhere
in
the
city,
you
get
two
additional
units
and
they're
very
expensive,
large
houses?
D
D
D
This
ordinance
encouraging
the
demolition
of
existing
structures
and
the
fact
that
if
you're
in
the
neighborhood,
you
don't
know
where
the
density
is
going
to
be,
it
could
be
anywhere,
and
so
we
created
the
Strategic
info
to
say:
let's
not
encourage
the
demolition
of
structures,
and
let's
acknowledge
that
within
every
neighbor
of
the
city,
we
have
busier
streets
and
we
have
less
busy
streets.
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
natural
condition
in
any
City.
So
on
a
busier
Street,
you
can
do
some
more
units.
This
is
not
a
highway.
D
This
is
a
street
everybody
walks
and
rides
their
bike
down.
It's
just
that
it's
a
little
it's
one
of
the
main
streets
in
the
neighborhood.
So
let's
allow
the
additional
density
there.
That
was
a
change
that
happened
last
summer
and
last
summer.
Importantly,
these
mixed
use
districts
were
created
that
we
didn't
even
have
them.
We
had
one
blanket
mixed
use,
so
the
whole
city
was
covered
in
mixed
use,
with
no
differentiation
of
what
one
street
how
it's
different
than
another,
or
what
were
the
goals
we
were
seeking
to
achieve
in
terms
of
where
density
went.
D
So
that
was
a
big
change.
Last
summer,
councilmember
Willits,
and
so
the
basic
structure
of
this
ordinance
came
out
of
the
public
process
and
I'll
have
to
be
honest
with
you.
When
we
started
discussing
this
last
summer
at
the
libraries
and
so
forth,
there
was
a
tremendous
amount
of
relief
that
we
were
proposing
an
ordinance
or
we
were
moving
towards
an
ordinance
that
reflected
this
city
and
not
just
theories
and
not
one
headline
so
last
summer
was
a
period
of
of
a
lot
of
satisfaction.
D
No
City
can
so
acknowledging
that,
let's
shape
it
in
a
way
that
that
IT
addresses
these
big
issues
and
therefore,
then,
let's
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
to
do,
but
but
council
member
Willits,
those
were
big
changes.
That
was
fundamental
changes
that
came
from
that
first
round
of
public
hearings
related
to
modules,
one
and
two
such
that
we
shifted
entirely
last
summer
as
a
result
of
that
feedback.
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
I
think
we've
got
time
for
a
couple,
probably
one
or
two
neighborhood
associations
we're
planning
on
breaking
around
5
30
to
6,
like
we
normally
do
my
I,
but
I
I
think
we
might
be
able
to
fit
one
or
two
and
I'll
just
have
to
see
how
many
questions
and
what
the
discussion
looks
like
we'll
start
I'm
just
going
to
go
alphabetically
and
there
might
be
an
extra
sheet
out
there
and
so
I'll
make
sure
before
I
move
from
bees
to
Seas
Etc
that
there's
no
other
bees
here.
A
P
Time,
oh
so,
you
guys
are
all
rested.
You're
hydrated
maybe
got
a
flask
under
the
desk
you're
buckled
in
for
this
Rob
Stark.
Vice
president
Barber
Valley
neighborhood
association,
6865
East,
Warm,
Springs,
Madam,
mayor
council
members
bvna
agrees
that
the
zoning
code
is
long
due
for
an
update
57
years
best
practices
and
Community
needs
and
Lifestyles
have
changed
significantly.
P
Bvna
wants
to
make
sure
that
the
city
has
adequate
resources
to
revisit,
adapt
and
evolve.
The
new
code
when
unintended
consequences,
errors
and
better
practices
arise,
make
the
process
to
identify
and
make
amendments
easily
executed
without
a
huge
impact
on
the
staff,
with
full
transparency
to
the
public
in
bbna's
experience,
it's
not
been
easy
to
amend,
spo1
as
circumstances
and
best
practices.
Change
we'd
suggest
that
the
new
code
should
be
automatically
reviewed
and
amended
on
a
timetable.
P
Our
biggest
concerns
relate
to
Communications
between
the
city
and
the
Nas
and
Citizens
We're
disappointed
that
the
proposed
time
for
Nas
to
speak
at
public
hearings
is
being
reduced.
We
believe
that
Nas
should
continue
to
have
the
same
amount
of
time
as
the
applicant
to
address
pnz
and
Council.
Many
applications
and
issues
are
complicated
and
need
time
to
be
properly
addressed.
Boise
has
a
diverse
set
of
neighborhoods,
and
the
neighborhood
associations
have
vital
knowledge
about
their
neighborhood,
that's
next
to
impossible
for
Commissioners
and
Council.
To
always
be
aware
of.
P
In
that
same
vein,
we
want
to
make
sure
residents
continue
to
have
sufficient
time
and
opportunity
to
voice
their
positions
on
applications.
We're
deeply
concerned
about
expanding
administrative
approvals
without
communication
by
the
city
to
the
public.
This
lack
of
transparency
is
worth
worrisome.
We
understand.
Nas
will
still
continue
to
be
notified
about
applications,
but
there
needs
to
be
Outreach
not
just
to
the
nas
but
to
nearby
residents
as
well
for
all
applications
and
pre-application
meetings
should
be
still
be
required.
P
Bvna
has
serious
concerns
about
applications
getting
approved
without
any
chance
for
neighborhood
association
or
resident
input.
We
have
seen
positive
changes
made
in
proposals
after
the
neighborhood
input
at
a
pre-ap
meeting.
Bvna
would
suggest
that
at
least
applications
that
are
designed
for
administrative
approval
require
some
form
of
consultation
with
the
appropriate
neighborhood
association.
P
The
real
rub
is
that
to
appeal
an
administrative
approval,
the
appellant
will
be
required
to
pay
a
fee
to
file
an
appeal
for
something
they
ever
had
a
chance
to
oppose
before
the
approval,
We
Believe.
On
administrative
approvals,
the
neighborhood
associations
should
have
an
Avenue
to
ask
the
city
for
reconsideration
without
having
to
file
a
full-blown
appeal.
Neighbors
should
have
an
opportunity
for
their
voices
to
be
heard.
P
Finally,
we
believe
that
when
Council
gives
direction
to
an
applicant,
those
directions
mean
nothing
unless
it's
in
the
motion
at
times,
there's
no
serious
follow-through
on
directions
by
staff
or
applicants.
Until
it's
too
late
in
effect
kicking
the
can
down
the
road.
We
would
suggest
that
Council
directions
not
only
need
to
be
in
motions
but
need
to
be
tied
to
permits
instead
of
final
plats.
Final
plat
stage
is
too
late
of
a
deadline
as
construction
commences.
J
P
Well,
there
was
the
core
few
of
us
that
kicked
it
around
the
most
and
then
at
our
executive
work
session
with
the
whole
board.
Then
we
discussed
those
points
took
further
input
and
then
voted
on
other
things
on
what
we
wanted
to
concentrate
on,
because
things
did
get
brought
up
about
parking
about
loss
of
naturally
occurring,
affordable
housing.
P
But
we
want
the
process
because
things
are
going
to
be
wrong
in
this
I
mean
it's:
it's
too
big,
600,
Pages
something's
not
going
to
be
right,
unintended
consequences
and-
and
that's
the
biggest
thing
is
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
those
errors
can
be
changed
as
easily
as
possible
without
any
further
pain.
Medemary.
J
G
G
G
So
question
I
think
on
some
of
the
the
timing
thing,
because
I
think
that
there's
an
intention
with
the
proposal
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
guaranteed
amount
of
time
for
the
neighborhood
associations,
which
was
maybe
expressed
throughout
this
process.
What
I
heard
you
just
say
is
that
you
don't
think
that
there
should
be
a
guaranteed
amount
of
time
and
it
should
be
tied
to
the
amount
of
time
that
the
presenter
or
the
applicant
gets
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
what
you
think
and
meant
to
say.
Yeah.
P
Every
application
is
different,
I
mean
there's
been
some
applications.
We've
spoken
on
where
two
minutes
is
plenty
there's
been
times
where
one
of
us
spent
over
10
minutes
talking
on
on
complicated
applications,
and
it's
five
minutes
is
just
kind
of
scary
on
some
of
the
ones
that
we've
dealt
with
most
of
the
time.
Yeah
it'd
be
fine,
but
yeah.
A
I've
got
a
question
for
you
actually,
so
you
mentioned
the
you
know
a
suggestion
that
we
create
a
review
and
amend
process.
Are
you
thinking
in
that
I
mean
Tim
talked
about
the
the
performance
review
in
the
dashboard.
That
would
be
there,
so
we
could,
because
we
do
we're.
You
know
we're
we're
iterating
as
as
we
go
along
we're
we're
looking
at
this
code,
but
there
will
likely
be
changes
that
need
to
be
made.
A
So
he
proposed
a
performance
dashboard
wondering
if,
if
you
think
that
that
meets
it,
then
I
had
another
question
about
the
like:
the
expected
amendment
process
or
review
process.
Do
you
see
that
as
something
that
would
just
become
rote
that
you
know
every
year
there?
Everybody
knows
there's
a
time
at
which
the
conversation
would
be
had
about
amendments
or
that
it
should
be
triggered
by
you
know
a
request
or
something
else,
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
can
flush
that
out
a.
P
Little
bit
more
as
far
as
the
it
should
be
a
timetable
whether
that's
a
year
year
and
a
half
two
years,
it
might
have
to
be
a
year
at
first.
You
know,
since
it
all
is
so
new
and
there's
going
to
be
so
much
stuff
and
then,
after
that
it
gets
spread
out,
but
with
spo1
it
always
seemed
like
something
had
to
be
triggered.
P
P
You
know
it's
even
as
far
as
say
biking,
you
know
bike
lanes
and
and
bike
paths,
and
and
there
needs
to
be
an
easier
process
to
keep
things
up
to
date.
So
it's
not
57
years
from
now
that
we've
got
to
do
a
whole.
Another
600
page
document,
the
first
question:
I,
don't
really
have
a
good
answer
for
that.
One.
K
Madame
here,
I
have
a
question
for
you
too
Robin.
It's
like
the
council
president.
It's
not
directed
at
you.
It's
probably
going
to
be
for
most
of
the
neighborhood
associations,
because
this
time
issue
is
one
that
I've
really
struggled
with,
and
it
seems,
like
you
know,
kind
of
a
procedural
detail,
but
it's
it's
not
it's
a
big
deal,
and
so
here's
without
characterizing
any
neighborhood
association
and
certainly
not
your
own.
K
K
So
you
have
this.
You
can
have
decisions
that
are
made
by
a
neighborhood
association,
they're
really
made
by
a
couple
of
people,
maybe
one
or
two
or
three
really
passionate,
maybe
one
charismatic
person
and
a
few
other
people
who
want
to
help.
That's
not
that
doesn't
necessarily
represent
the
neighborhood.
We
have
some
neighborhoods,
for
instance,
with
an
incredibly
High
population
of
renters,
no
rent
or
involvement
on
the
neighborhood
association
board.
K
As
you
can
imagine,
sometimes
the
views
of
long
time
established
homeowners
actually
differ
from
the
views
of
renters,
even
though
renters
in
fact
make
up
half
for
the
majority
of
the
neighborhood.
So
there's
a
structural
problem
there
and
it's
a
structural
problem
that
goes
to
the
point
of
view
being
represented
by
the
neighborhood
association.
It.
E
K
However,
when
the
neighborhood
does
not
have
a
unified
point
of
view
or
does
not
feel
strongly,
it
comes
to
us
very
strongly
from
the
neighborhood
association,
and
so
the
issue
that
I'm
grappling
with
is
when
the
neighborhood
really
does
have
a
position.
We
get
it
without
regard
to
neighborhood
association
time
when
the
neighborhood
doesn't
have
a
position,
we
often
get
one,
that's
characterized
as
the
neighborhood
position,
when
it's
not
because
we've
guaranteed
this
time
to
a
small
group
of
people
who
are
willing
to
do.
K
P
P
So
they
have
an
opportunity
because,
as
a
neighborhood
association,
we
struggle
with
it,
we
put
stuff
out
there
and
we
don't
get
a
lot
of
feedback
from
people.
We
have
a
huge
email
list.
Hardly
anybody
comes
to
the
meetings
unless
it's
about
the
new
elementary
school
and
then
we
have
more
people
and
we
have
room
for
in
in
the
room.
But
if
the
residents
don't
have
an
opportunity
to
find
out
about
an
application,
that's
potentially
contentious,
then
how
are
they
going
to
have
a
chance
in
Mass
to
respond
to
you,
the
elected
officials,
so.
K
If
I
could
follow
up,
then
tell
me
what
you
think
about
this
solution:
no
or
very
small
neighborhood
association,
testimony
time
but
rigorous
nosing
to
the
residents,
so
that
if
the
residents
do
have
an
opinion,
they'll
come
if
they
don't
have
an
opinion.
We
don't
have
a
neighborhood
association
representing
that
there's
an
opinion
when,
in
fact,
there's
not
one.
K
P
It
sounds
like
a
fair
trade-off,
because
that's
what
we're
struggling
with
is
the
neighbors
aren't
getting
notified
on
as
much
stuff
the
risk,
the
amount
of
time
that
the
neighborhood
association
can
speak
to
respond
to
things,
and
it
just
sounds
like
whether
it's
true
or
not.
It
feels
like.
It
appears
like
to
many
of
us
that
the
citizens
voices
are
kind
of
being
quashed
a
little
bit
and
it's
you
know.
Some
people
have
the
impression
that
we
know
better
than
you.
We
can
make
these
decisions.
We
don't
need
your
input.
P
C
G
G
There's
going
to
be
questions
about
like
what
do
you
think
the
appropriate
amount
of
time
a
notification
is
based
off
of
what's
proposed
right
now,
so
I
would
just
maybe
relay
to
other
neighborhood
associations
that
are
coming
up.
Those
are
going
to
be
questions
that
are
going
to
be
not
going
to
be
asked.
So
if
you're
proactive
about
it,
you
might
not
be
under
the
gun,
quite
as
much
as
you
were
up,
but
good
job.
P
C
E
J
Meta
Mary
just
have
a
quick
comment
for
Rob,
thanks
for
going.
First
Rob
really
appreciate
it
also
translation
for
anyone
who
doesn't
know
what
sp01
is
it's.
The
Harris
Ranch
specific
plan
that
was
approved
by
this
body
in
the
80s
I
believe
90s
90s
90s.
It
started
in
the
80s
and
then
it
was
finally
approved
from
the
90s
through
them.
So
that's
what
sp01
is
thanks
for
getting
up
here.
Rob
really
appreciate.
A
A
Q
A
Let
me
see
for
those
of
you
that
might
have
come
while
we
were
on
break
I,
said
we're
doing
neighborhood
associations
alphabetically
there's
a
sheet
out
there.
So
if
some
of
you
signed
up
on
that
I'll
make
sure
before
we
move
on
to
another
letter
that
you've
had
your
chance
and
with
that
we're
going
to
go
to
Boise
Heights
Jeff
Faraday
welcome
foreign.
F
City
Council
I'm,
Jeff
Faraday
I
live
at
420,
East
Crestline,
Drive,
Boise
and
I'm
representing
today
the
Boise
Heights
neighborhood
association
tonight
I'm,
going
to
offer
some
testimony
really
to
supplement
the
testimony
that
we've
given
before
and
our
written
comments
that
we
submitted
on
several
subjects
about
five
subjects.
This
really
just
deals
with
one.
F
F
For
Somerset
2,
which
mandates
Public
Access
between
Halls
Gulch
Boise,
Hills
Park,
which
is
at
the
bottom
of
that
ball
on
Pleasant
Hill,
Way
and
Military
Reserve
Park.
We
have
proposed
an
alignment
of
that
trail
for
many
years.
We've
asserted
this
alignment,
and
for
many
years
nothing
has
happened.
That
cup
was
granted
in
1999
that's
24
years
ago,
no
Trail,
one
generation
of
children
has
grown
up
in
this
neighborhood
and
moved
away,
and
the
trail
is
still
not
there.
F
Our
fear
is
that
this
requirement
and
we
fear
it's
the
same
fate
as
other
requirements
in
cups,
will
just
be
forgotten,
just
fade
away,
people
will
die,
people
will
move
away,
the
the
condition
will
be
ignored
and
ultimately
never
implemented.
That's
not
the
way
the
city
is
supposed
to
work.
The
second
Point
relates
to
our
exhibit
B,
which
really
is
just
an
illustration,
for
you
exhibit
B,
simply
illustrates
what
we
see
as
a
developer:
resistance
to
providing
Public
Access
Pathways.
F
F
J
F
Councilwoman
woodings,
yes,
I
have
and
I
certainly
don't
have
proposed
language
for
any
cup
condition
anywhere
in
the
that
might
appear
under
any
subject
in
the
code.
But
what
I've
done
here?
What
our
board
has
approved
here
are
conditions
in
this
in
these
comments
that
I
submitted,
which
I
give
specific
language
for
how
it
will
be
implemented
at
the
outset.
So
you
can
take
a
look
at
those,
but
that's
that's.
What
I
would
suggest
is
that
if
the
cup
condition
says
something
has
to
happen,
the
city
should
be
thinking.
F
This
should
happen
as
soon
as
possible,
instead
of
just
being
well.
It's
out
there
well
developer,
may
not
finish
building
this
out
for
37
years,
and
then
they
decide
like
in
our
case
in
the
last
phase
over
which
there
was
controversy
and
developer,
did
not
get
his
way
he's
just
going
to
sit
on
it,
maybe
for
his
next
Generation
to
take
up.
That's
not
fair
to
the
neighbors,
it's
not
fair
to
the
process,
and
we
think
it's
a
recipe
for
having
that
kind
of
a
condition
simply
fall
through
the
cracks.
J
F
Councilwoman
woodings
I
would
say
it's
somewhere
in
between.
It
was
certainly
the
board,
but
the
board
presented
this
at
more
than
one
neighborhood-wide
meeting,
for
which
we
have
pretty
good
attendance
and
which
we
advertise
and
send
emails
out
for
and
set
up
a
reader
board
at
the
entrance
to
our
neighborhood
to
encourage
attendance
and
so
forth,
and
we've
had
well
we
in
just
in
in
late
may.
We
just
had
a
another
meeting
on
this
very
subject
where
we
had
some
35
people.
F
There
neighborhood
members
talking
about
this
very
subject,
so
we
try
to
reach
out
as
far
as
we
can.
Every
time
we
have
a
neighborhood
newsletter
that
goes
out.
We
have
quarterly
board
meetings.
We
sometimes
do
lit
drops
to
every
house
in
the
neighborhood
and
that's
how
we
try
to
keep
the
neighbors
involved
great.
G
Man,
first
of
all,
thanks
for
being
here
tonight,
thanks
for
advocating
for
trail
access
and
for
something
very
specific
that
you
found
that
you
want
us
to
address.
That's
always
appreciated
to
to
be
able
to
look
and
kind
of
find
some
of
those
things
I'm
just
going
to
assume
that
you
were
okay
with
five
minutes
of
testimony
time
and
I'm
going
to
assume
the
other
neighborhood
associations
unless
they
say
something
different
are
fine
with
the
five
minutes
of
guaranteed
testimony
time.
F
F
I
I
think
maybe
twice
that
might
be
more
adequate
I
recognize
that
this
is
a
difficult
issue
and
it's
ultimately
not
helpful
to
anybody
to
have
a
lot
of
repetition
through
a
lot
of
testifiers
and
so
forth,
but
the
public
does
need
to
be
heard
and
if,
if
a
applicant
has
30
minutes,
40
minutes
or
whatever
it
might
be
plus
rebuttal
time,
which
is
often
the
case,
then
I
I,
don't
think
it's
fair
to
to
say
to
at
least
to
a
neighborhood
association.
You
only
have
five
minutes
so.
G
A
R
R
R
I
have
been
following
the
zoning
code
rewrite
since
the
beginning,
I've,
attended
meetings
and
commented
at
each
phase.
I
learned
a
lot
during
the
community
conversation
meetings
and,
most
recently
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
meetings.
The
residents,
the
residents
of
our
city,
have
a
lot
variety
of
opinions.
I
too,
have
modified
my
opinions
on
this
rewrite
throughout
the
process.
R
I
used
to
be
concerned
about
the
limited
parking
requirements,
but
no
longer,
especially
after
hearing
from
our
developer,
how
much
more
rent
they
have
to
charge
to
provide
more
parking.
We
don't
need
higher
rents.
I
also
talked
to
a
new
friend
about
parking
in
her
apartment,
complex.
She
says
she
rarely
goes
to
the
parking
garage
for
her
car.
Maybe
once
a
week,
she
mostly
uses
one
of
her
bicycles
to
get
around
town.
R
She
needs
more
bicycle
parking,
not
car
parking
and
I
heard
many.
Other
young
people
testify.
Similarly
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
hearings,
I
do
hope.
All
future
apartment
or
condo
complexes
have
covered,
secured
bicycle
and
scooter
parking
with
charging
access
of
at
least
one
space
per
bedroom,
as
well
as
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
for
the
modern
car,
and
hopefully
we
will
have
better
mass
transit
system
in
the
future.
R
R
What
I'm
not
over
and
still
have
concerns
with
are
one
mandates
versus
incentives.
I've
been
told
that
the
code
cannot
have
mandates,
that's
just
too
bad,
because
we
should
be
mandating
affordable,
housing
and
Energy
Efficiency
or
sustainability
improvements,
two
a
way
to
say
no
and
the
buy
right
allowance.
Too
often
I've
seen
the
city
approve
a
development
proposal
because
code
allowed
it
and
there
was
fear
of
being
sued.
I
wish
the
city
had
a
way
out
a
way.
To
just
say:
no,
not
every
development
should
go
forward.
R
Three
development
agreements,
variances
waivers
this
area,
is
where
the
public
feels
uneducated
and
out
of
the
process.
It's
a
gray
area
and
likely
always
will
be.
Unfortunately,
four
code
enforcement
compliance.
The
new
zoning
code
is
probably
not
the
place
for
a
staffing
goal,
but
we
do
need
more
code
of
compliance
enforcement
staff
and
the
ability
for
them
to
Levy
fines
or
other
violation.
Punishments
we
being
in
the
wui
overlay
zone
are
mostly
concerned
with
firewise
vegetation
and
outside
lighting.
R
Okay.
Through
this
process,
we
have
also
become
aware
of
cop
amenities
that
never
get
fulfilled.
This
is
especially
a
problem
in
multi-phase
developments,
cep
amenities
and
infrastructure.
Improvements
should
be
required
to
be
completed
at
the
beginning
of
projects,
not
at
the
end.
Some
examples
are
fire
stations,
Trail
access
and
playgrounds
with
bathrooms,
and
no
goat
heads
The
Code
Compliance
errors
could
fulfill
where
the
cep
stuff
gets
looked
into.
R
Then
things
we
really
do
like
in
the
draft
new
zoning
code,
one
the
wooy
vegetation
requirements.
This
totally
affects
our
livability.
We
are
so
vulnerable
to
Wildlife
Wildfire,
rather
it
it
worries
us
daily
thanks
for
putting
these
requirements
and
the
wooy
overlay
in
the
code,
water,
quality,
quantity
and
Energy
Efficiency.
This
is
our
future.
We
need
to
be
conservative
with
all
of
this
pedestrian
bicycle
and
mass
transit.
This
will
help
all
of
us
with
better
air
quality,
better
exercise
in
health
and
just
better
living
this
past
winter.
R
The
news
group
Boise
Dev
surveyed
Boise
neighborhood
associations
for
their
comments
on
the
zoning
rewrite.
Hopefully
the
mayor
and
Council
saw
the
article.
We
would
like
to
express
our
support
of
the
points
made
by
Boise
Heights
Centennial,
Callister,
North,
End,
West,
End
and
West
Valley
neighborhood
association.
Time
also
agree
with
the
neighbors
for
Boise.
Thank.
R
R
R
G
A
J
A
S
S
For
15
years,
10
minutes
would
be
a
fine
time
in
the
past.
We've
had
as
much
as
15.
so
I'm
going
to
be
constrained
by
five
Adam
Mayer
Council,
chair
and
council
members.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
to
present
to
you
the
this
evening.
Our
comments
on
the
proposed
summoning
code
and
thank
you
to
Planning
and
Zoning
staff
for
coming
out,
under
short
notice
on
May
22nd,
to
have
a
neighborhood
association
meeting
with
us.
S
We
feel
those
are
important.
We
need
to
be
able
to
have
our
say
and
not
every
neighborhood
association's
involved.
There
needs
to
be
people.
There
needs
to
be
public
notification
because
you
can't
rely
on
the
neighborhood
associations
to
have
public
input
because
those
neighbors
neighborhood
associations
as
much
as
we
publicize
them
on
on
the
energize
site.
There
just
aren't
people
being
a
conduit
information
Downstream
from
the
city,
so
there
needs
to
be
some
way
to
have
the
general
public
know
about
projects
and
comment
on
them.
S
The
project
tractor
is
a
great
idea,
but
I
know
that
it's
hard
to
believe
not
everybody's
excited
about
planning
and
zoning,
and
so
and
it's
not
top
of
Mind
awareness
for
everyone
to
go.
I'm
gonna
go
look
at
the
website
today
and
see
if
there's
new,
any
new
projects,
they
find
out
a
project
about
a
project
when
there's
yellow
iron
in
a
lot
next
to
them.
S
Lack
of
notification
in
general,
the
people
that
are
the
the
lots
that
are
moving
from
r1c
R2
I,
have
two
people
right
here
sitting
next
to
me.
If
it
wasn't
for
our
neighborhood
meeting,
they
would
not
know
that
they
were
being
result
that
their
properties
were
being
rezoned.
The
city
has
done
a
great
job
of
Outreach,
a
a
card,
a
postcard
to
these
people,
letting
them
know
that
their
property
is
going
to
be
rezoned
would
have
been
a
great
step
forward.
S
There
are
250
at
our
estimate,
250
properties
along
the
Vista
corridor
that
have
been
designated
from
r1c.
They
will
move
from
r1c
to
R2
those
people
don't
know
about
it.
They've
not
been
informed.
Finally,
we
have
I
height
concerns
around
the
mx-3
zone
of
70
feet.
The
the
flyer
right,
the
the
diagram
I
passed
along
many
of
the
resident,
many
of
the
properties
I
think
Vista
is
unique.
S
So
you're
gonna
have
this
Bungalow
next
to
this
70-foot
building
and
then
you're
going
to
have
a
two
or
three
story:
building
next
to
it,
and
these
houses
are
going
to
be
surrounded
much
like
the
houses
that
are
the
old
houses
along
the
street.
I
can't
think
of
it.
Now
it's
it's
right
down
on,
like
5th
and
Broad
those
old
houses,
you're
just
gonna,
be
surrounded
by
large
buildings,
so
I
share
that
scale.
S
There
is
a
large
percentage
of
the
houses
along
Vista
that
are
being
rezoned
and
we
feel
like
it's
a
higher
percentage
than
anywhere
else
in
the
city.
There's
Park
Center
could
have
been
MX3,
there's
other
areas
of
the
city
that
could
have
been
included
in
MX3
and
they
just
weren't
I'm
at
time.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Listening
to
our
concerns,
we
agree
that
the
the
Planning
and
Zoning
code
needs
to
be
Rewritten,
and
but
we
feel
that
there's
still
some
work
to
be
done.
G
S
K
Anyway,
I
I
think
I
kind
of
know,
your
point
that
you
can
make
sure
I
have
it
right.
It
looks
like
everybody's
going
to
be
asked
for
review
on
neighborhood
association
time,
but
what
I
took
from
your
testimony
was
less
important
to
you
than
that
is
that
the
people
in
your
neighborhood
are
notified
and
have
an
opportunity
to
participate
if
they
want
to.
So
it's
not
so
much
about
the
neighborhood
association
as
it
is
about
the
actual
human
beings
who
live
in
your
neighborhood
being
included.
S
S
T
Thank
you,
American
council
members,
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
behalf
of
Boise's
downtown
neighborhood
association,
which
you're
calling
Boise
DNA.
My
name
is
Bruce
mastorovich
I
live
at
450,
West,
Grove,
Street
and
I'm,
working
with
a
small
but
great
group
of
people
to
reboot
the
downtown
neighborhood
association.
We
had
our
first
publicly
advertised
meeting
on
June
1st,
most
people
found
out
by
word
of
mouth,
but
we
reached
a
few
people
by
Flyers
I'm,
sorry
to
anybody
that
missed
these.
T
We
had
some
bad
luck
with
rain
and
we're
learning
a
bit
about
where
we're
actually
allowed
to
post
we're
new
to
this,
we
had
a
great
discussion
on
June
1st.
We
mostly
talked
about
the
roles
of
neighborhood
associations
in
Boise
ways
to
get
involved
in
future
meetings
and
ideas
for
a
mission
statement
and
then
kind
of
wrapped
up
on
the
zoning
code.
T
I
think
downtown
and
I
think
you
guys
have
touched
on
this
a
little
bit,
but
maybe
a
few
other
neighborhoods
have
a
difficult
time
kind
of
building
that
long-term
core
of
people
that
really
fuel
keeping
a
neighborhood
association
going
or
a
neighborhood
of
people
that
mostly
don't
own
their
homes.
However,
we're
still
passionate
about
our
community
and,
like
I,
said
we're
here,
I
think
we're
gonna
have
some
opportunities
to
kind
of
build
a
more
sustainable
neighborhood
association
going
forward.
T
Recently,
we've
grown
from
a
neighborhood
that
was
predominantly
for
business
to
kind
of
more
that
mixed
use
that
we're
talking
about.
So
we
have
more
people
living
there
now.
So,
if
a
few
move
out
I
think
we
can
kind
of
weather
that
storm
yeah
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
this
is
already
touched
on,
but
yeah
we're
not
going
to
take
a
position
on
this
today.
We're
just
mostly
here
saying
we're
here,
trying
to
get
more
people
to
join
in.
T
A
Yeah,
thank
you
and
and
Bruce
asked
me
earlier
as
we
went
to
take
a
break
if
tomorrow
at
the
hearing,
we
would
have,
if
we'd
be
taking
folks
sooner,
that
needed
to
leave
for
night
shift.
The
answer
is
yes,
and
then
I'll
also
be
asking
at
the
beginning
of
hearings.
If
there
are
folks
that
need
to
be
accommodated,
time-wise,
just
let
people
know
and
I
appreciate
that
you
had
asked
me
that
earlier
all
right.
Thank
you.
A
V
Great
Richard
Lewellen
9170
Hill
Road,
representing
Northwest
neighborhood
association,
we've
all
oh.
First
of
all,
we
need
10
minutes
at
a
minimum.
Our
neighborhood
associations
we've
all
heard
that
the
best
chance
to
uphold
the
policies
of
blueprint
Boise,
is
to
amend
the
zoning
code
to
do
so
and
blueprint
Boise
isn't
just
about
housing.
V
For
example,
our
neighborhood
plan
has
an
action
goal
of
creating
a
north-south
pathway
between
Bogart
and
Duncan
Lane
along
irrigation,
lateral
number
34.,
we've
started
it
on
the
North
and
the
South,
but
when
and
if
the
other
properties
develop,
there
needs
to
be
a
requirement
for
its
connection.
Otherwise
it
won't
happen,
and
this
is
not
in
the
zoning
code
rewrite,
but
it
should
be.
We
also
have
a
number
of
policies
on
improving
the
water
quality
and
habitat
of
our
year-round
Waterway,
the
spoils
event
canal.
V
V
It
is
important
to
remember
that,
not
very
long
ago,
all
this
area
was
occasionally
flooded
by
a
more
natural
River,
and
these
canals
and
ditches
and
laterals
are
a
vestige,
a
network
of
the
dynamic
river
that
provided
our
area,
so
many
benefits.
Unfortunately,
the
zoning
code
rewrite
while
I
will
agree
with
Tim
Keane
that
it
does
speak
to
Foothills,
especially
and
that's
great,
very
important
and
to
some
extent
not
as
as
well,
but
the
Boise
River
to
some
extent
to
the
desert
to
the
South.
V
V
It
needs
to
be
rectified
like
I
was
saying
part
of
that
is
groundwater,
recharge,
Boise
blueprint
and
our
neighborhood
plan
have
policies
to
protect
recharge,
but
unfortunately,
the
adequate
water
ordinance
will
result
in
targeting
irrigated
farmland
for
development,
and
that
again
is
the
main
source
of
recharge
of
our
traditional
aquifer
and
I.
Think
it's
important
that
city
of
Boise
realized
that
more
than
5
000
residential
Parcels
within
the
city
are
not
hooked
up
to
violia
corporate
water,
but
rely
on
the
traditional
aquifer,
which
is
typically
a
shallow
aquifer
for
drinking
water.
V
So
Boise,
along
with
Reno
and
Las
Vegas,
have
been
identified
as
the
worst
cities
in
the
United
States
or
increasing
the
urban
heat
island,
and
this
is
palpable
in
our
neighborhood.
Every
time
a
Farmland
is
paved
over,
you
can
fill
it.
You
go.
You
ride
your
bicycle
by
at
night
time,
and
instead
of
that
nice
refreshing,
cool
air.
It's
now
hot
and
again,
the
traditional
shallow
aquifer
supports
native
trees
and
feral
trees
that
are
sometimes
a
nuisance
like
black
locust.
But
these
provide
much
of
the
cooling
that
combats
the
urban
heat
island.
V
We
get
rid
of
the
recharge.
Those
trees
will
no
longer
survive.
That's
super
critical
for
any
kind
of
modern
zoning
code
to
deal
with
this
very
modern
problem
that
we're
filling
every
day
and
using
more
energy
for
air
conditioning
to
overcome
it.
It's
it's!
It's
a
it's!
A
it's
a
loop!
It's
a
complicated
system
of
groundwater,
recharge
that
needs
to
be
protected
and
we're
not
doing
it.
In
this
code
in
general,
we
are
not
supporting
neighborhood
plans.
The
neighborhood
plans
are
part
of
blueprint
Boise.
V
Of
course,
our
neighborhood
plan
was
adopted
into
blueprint
Boise
just
in
2020,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
concerns
that
we've
put
forth
put
a
lot
of
time
into
that.
We
really
need
to
see
our
neighborhood
plan,
but
across
Boise
all
those
neighborhoods
that
have
plans
make
sure
that
those
policies
and
goals
and
action
items
are
addressed
in
the
in
the
rewrite,
because
currently
Upon
A
rezone
of
an
individual
parcel.
V
K
J
V
So
I
I
was
speaking
about
a
different
pathway,
but
they
are
related.
I
was
speaking
about
the
one,
that's
in
our
neighborhood
plan
and
that
connects
State,
Street
and
Hill
Road,
and
it
would
cross
the
pathway
that
you're
speaking
of
along
the
suppose,
Bank
Canal,
which
is
in
the
master
Pathways
the
one
along
the
lateral,
is
a
traditional
pathway.
I
had
a
best
friend
down
on
State
Street
and
used
to
walk
along
it.
You
know
to
visit
him
when
I
was
a
kid:
that's
not
in
the
zoning
code
rewrite
or
the
master
Pathways
plan.
V
J
V
What
we
decided
was
best
thing
to
do
is
stick
to
how
the
zoning
code
rewrite
affects
our
neighborhood
plan
and
that's
our
default
in
general.
You
know
because
we're
we
spent
those
two
years
to
write
our
neighborhood
plan
had
hundreds
of
people
we
were
graded
is
that
you
know
super
overachieving
neighborhood
with
our
neighborhood
plan.
V
J
K
A
V
A
W
If
you
are
to
vote
on
it
now
and
adopt
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
Cena
voted
you,
the
board
of
Cena
voted
unanimously
to
bring
three
overall
concerns
to
your
attention.
There
are
many
instances
in
the
code
that
line
by
line
we
could
go
through
with
our
suggestions,
but
these
were
the
most
important
issues
that
both
our
neighbors
and
Cena
felt
that
the
council
could
address
in
adoption
of
this
code.
W
First,
agreements
between
stakeholders,
independent
of
the
code,
need
to
be
honored.
These
are
all
over
the
city
which
neighborhood
associations
have
worked
incredibly
hard
to
build,
for
example,
going
all
the
way
back
to
zoning
code
issues
in
the
90s
Cena
worked
with
Boise
State
University
to
build
agreements
reflected
in
both
the
97
2005
to
2008
and
2015
Boise
State
Master
plans.
W
These
Master
plans
allowed
for
Boise
State's
Grove,
while
protecting
the
neighborhood
south
of
Beacon
Street.
These
were
recently
expanded
upon
to
address
concerns
in
the
Collegiate
subdivision
area
between
the
neighbors
and
Boise
State,
and
have
been
really
effective
in
building
trust
between
the
neighborhood
and
the
university.
The
council
should
make
clear
that
nothing
in
the
rewrite
would
undermine
these
Community
agreements
to
build
trust
in
the
code
proposed
changes
to
Heights
at
the
campus
boundaries
from
45
to
70
feet
in
the
zoning
code.
Rewrite
seemed
to
conflict
with
these
past
understandings,
for
example.
W
Second,
any
code
will
require
adjustments.
We
all
know
this,
but
especially
in
a
complete
rewrite.
The
Council
planning
and
zoning
and
staff
will
need
to
be
as
proactive
as
possible
to
respond
to
and
fix
issues
as
they
become
apparent.
The
best
government
Improvement
to
the
code
will
build
trust
and
prevent
the
need
for
future
wholesale
rewrites.
We
ask
that
a
semi-annual
or
annual
Outreach
and
review
of
the
code
be
instituted
to
find
out
what
is
working
and
what
is
not.
W
For
example,
if
the
density
Target
is
being
accomplished
in
an
already
dense
R2
Zone,
with
the
current
35
foot
Heights,
a
tightening
of
the
code
back
from
45
to
35
might
be
warranted
if
loopholes
pop
up.
They
may
necessitate
emergency
ordinances
and
emerge
an
immediate
action
from
the
council
before
bad
development
Cascades
throughout
town.
In
addition,
by
laying
out
the
reasoning,
Behind
These
fixes
and
what
issues
they
are
responding
to,
will
build
a
lot
of
faith
that
concerns
are
being
addressed.
W
Third,
the
council
must
make
sure
that
notification
requirements
are
not
relaxed
as
proposed
in
the
code.
This
is
an
issue
of
transparency
and
accountability
for
Neighbors
developers
in
the
cities.
If
notifications
are
required,
it
prevents
the
surprise
of
a
project
that
can
be
the
most
jarring
part
of
development.
W
The
new
online
development
tracker
is
fantastic,
but
it
is
no
replacement
for
the
traditional
tool
of
a
postcard.
In
a
mailbox,
letting
them
know
about
a
project
whether
they
are
commissioned
or
administrative
level
approvals,
this
transparency
and
openness
in
the
process
streamlines
it
and
helps
diffuse
issues
with
development.
Before
they
start.
W
We
understand
the
development
community's
request
to
streamline
the
process.
However,
relaxing
the
notification
requirements
would
actually
do
the
opposite.
Countless
times,
we've
seen
issues
get
resolved
before
anything
needed
to
go
before
a
commission
just
because
neighbors
were
made
aware
of
a
project
and
had
their
concerns
addressed
by
the
developer.
Neighborhood
notifications
are
vital
to
a
code
that
works
for
everyone,
because
it
involves
everyone
as
a
commitment
from
the
city
code
itself,
to
inform
the
public
at
every
step.
W
It's
not
only
good
practice
but
vital
if
we
want
to
have
the
trust
and
support
of
residents
for
this
code,
regardless
of
your
decision
tonight
or
preferably
after
a
district
and
council
is
seated.
The
most
important
action
you
can
take
are
the
ones
moving
forward
in
amending
the
code
to
respect
everybody's
agreements,
respond
to
everybody's
issues
and
inform
everyone.
You
can
fulfill
the
promise
that
Jane
Jacobs
laid
out
of
building
a
city
forever
I
want
to
just
quickly
go
to
the
time.
W
I,
don't
see
an
issue
with
a
five
minute
time
for
Native
or
neighborhood
associations.
As
long
as,
if,
let's
say
a
developer
goes
over
15
minutes,
then
a
neighborhood
can
Association
can
get
greater
time.
I.
Just
think
of
some
of
the
massive
projects
that
Dina
has
dealt
with
for
St
Luke's
or
some
of
the
big
ones
we
deal
with
with
Boise
State,
where
five
minutes
wouldn't
be
adequate.
J
W
Matt
mayor
councilmember
woodings,
our
board
is
I,
believe
14
or
15
at
this
point
we're
a
unique
neighborhood
association
in
that
we
have
districted
our
board.
So
only
so
many
people
can
be
on
the
board
from
each
of
the
parts
of
the
neighborhood
association
in
an
attempt
to
get
representation
from
the
variety
of
neighborhoods
that
Cena
spans
all
the
way
from
Boise
State
out
to
Columbia,
Village
and
everywhere
else.
W
So
our
process
was
we
utilized
and
thanks
to
the
city
for
this,
the
yearly
mailer
to
drive
people
to
our
annual
meetings
and
try
to
get
some
feedback.
That
way.
We
also
understand
that
it's
sometimes
hard
to
get
feedback
unless
you're
very
proactive,
so
we
sent
myself
and
other
members
of
our
board
to
as
many
of
the
community
meetings
and
I
I.
Thank
the
mayor
for
coming
to
the
one
at
Timberline.
W
For
the
zoning
code
rewrite.
We
tried
to
really
participate
in
those
to
reach
people
that
maybe
the
city
reached
that
we
were
unable
to
we've
emailed
out
to
our
list
and
I
think
maybe
a
thing
that
we
could
look
at
in
the
future.
For
energized
grants
is
give
multiple
mailers
to
Neighborhood
associations
when
there
are
big
issues
like
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
going
through,
which
might
help
gain
gain
more
input.
But
we
tried
to
synthesize
the
things
that
the
concerns
that
people
gave
to
us
and
synthesize
it
into
what
I'm
presenting
tonight.
Great.
G
Eric
thanks
for
being
here
tonight,
thanks
for
all
the
work
that
you
do
and
thanks
for
the
specificity
in
the
time
kind
of
management
that
you
talked
about
as
well.
I
did
have
one
question
just
in
regards
to
notifications
for
Neighbors,
if
there's
a
specific
type
of
development
that
you're
concerned
about
happening
or
is
it
just
sort
of
in
general,
you
want
the
same
notifications
across
the
board,
or
is
there
something
specific
that
you
see
not
requiring
notification
that
you
have
particular
concerns
about.
W
In
Cena's
opinion,
when
we
talked
about
this
and
when
we've
talked
to
neighbors,
they
always
feel
that
more
communication
is
best.
So
there's
nothing
specifically
in
terms
of
type
of
project,
whether
it's
you
know
commercial,
residential
multi-family
that
isn't
really
as
much
of
a
concern
as
giving
people
a
heads
up
before
they
see
dirt
turned
because
that
is
often
the
point
where
people
go
wait
a
minute
the
trees
are
getting
cut
down,
the
dirt's
getting
turned
and
the
house
is
getting
torn.
W
What's
going
on
here,
so
I
think
it's
more
of
just
an
accountability
and
transparency,
which
also
protects
the
city
and
developers
in
the
someone
can
say.
Well,
I
never
knew
and
that's
well,
here's
you're
on
the
list
of
people
we
mailed,
so
it
protects
everybody
involved
to
have
that
notification.
Awesome.
B
Hi,
my
name
is
estila
friends
and
I
am
the
President
of
South
cold
neighborhood
association
I've
lived
in
my
home
at
7604
West
Thunder
Mountain
Drive
in
Boise
Idaho
for
22
years.
I
am
a
professional
engineer
and
I
work
with
communities
all
over
the
western
United
States
to
ensure
environmentally
friendly
and
sustainable
growth
practices
are.
B
I
in
the
South
Cole
neighborhood
have
concerns
about
Boise's
zoning
code.
Rewrite
up.
Zoning
alone
is
not
the
answer
to
affordable
housing
up.
Zoning
is
not
sufficient
to
address
affordability
challenges
without
complementary
measures
such
as
the
provision
of
mandatory,
affordable
housing
programs
or
incentives.
B
B
The
zcr,
D
incentivizes
home
ownership
by
making
it
easier
to
build
multi-family
units
on
previous
single-family
home
lots
are
established,
modest
single-family,
home
lots
in
our
1C
neighborhoods
will
be
forever
altered
by
par
Prospectors,
looking
to
buy
up
cheap
property
to
place.
Multi-Story
and
multi-unit
developments.
B
B
Why
don't
we
look
at
other
cities
that
tried
to
densify
their
zoning
codes.
San
Francisco
implemented
various
upzoning
policies
in
an
effort
to
address
its
housing
affordability
crisis,
but
despite
the
intention
to
increase
housing
Supply,
the
city
experienced
a
surge
in
demand
leading
to
Rising
property
prices
and
rents.
Seattle
implemented
the
mandatory
housing
affordability
program
in
Portland
implemented
a
plan
called
residential
infill
project,
both
of
which
increased
housing
density
in
established
neighborhoods,
which
increased
land
values
and
property
prices,
making
housing
less
affordable
for
existing
residents.
B
Learn
from
these
cities
consider
including
neighborhood
leaders
in
adjusting
the
code
to
protect
to
protect
existing
residents,
while
adding
density
to
places
that
make
sense
to
do
so.
Thousands
of
people
rely
on
groundwater.
Wells
is
their
source
of
clean
water,
drywalls
and
dwindling
groundwater
supplies
happened
last
summer
to
many
hundreds
of
people
in
my
community
of
Southwest
Boise
and
also
Northwest
Boise.
B
B
Last
week
the
City
of
Phoenix
announced
a
limit
on
construction
and
a
pause
on
approvals
for
new
development
as
their
groundwater
disappears.
If
we
keep
Building
without
adequate
infrastructure
and
resources,
it's
only
a
matter
of
time.
Boise,
it's
time
to
slow
down
and
plan
carefully,
not
speed
up.
B
A
decision
of
this
magnitude
that
will
affect
every
single
resident
in
the
city
should
require
representation
of
the
voters
within
all
of
Boise's
Geographic
districts.
It
stands
to
reason
that
approval
of
the
city,
City's
zoning
codes
and
building
laws
should
be
postponed
until
after
the
November
2023
election
I'd
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
answer
the
questions
that
were
asked
of
the
neighborhood
associations.
K
Madame
mayor
I,
guess
I
I
I've
heard
that
that
we
should
wait
until
a
new
council
is
elected
feedback
before
and
I
guess
you
just
helped
me
understand
it.
I
mean
hundreds
of
people
worked
on
this
for
five
years
before
even
any
of
these
people
went
through
an
election,
we've
got
over
a
thousand
public
comments
that
were
reviewed
and
Incorporated
in
the
code.
K
This
is
a
body
of
work
that
has
been
in
progress
and
has
been,
you
know,
drafted
and
created
for
longer
than
half
this
Council
has
been
here,
and
it
just
seems
odd
to
me
that
changing
a
few
individuals
on
the
council,
it's
the
suggestion
that
they
would
then
change.
The
code
dramatically
would
be
representative
they'd
be
giving
three
people
or
four
people
or
whatever
it
is
yeah
I
mean
the
idea
is
that
they
would
then
have
authority
to
go.
Do
go
undo
all
that
work
that
all
the
people
in
the
community
have
done
so
I.
B
Think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
our
communities
that
are
are
not
aware
of
this
zoning
code,
rewrite
in
itself
and
I.
Think
by
having
a
representative
in
each
of
the
districts
of
the
city
could
help
further
the
understanding
and
the
education
of
our
communities
to
to
be
better
informed,
I
think
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people
that
are
are
blindsided
to
what
is
happening.
Okay,.
J
J
There
were
a
lot
of
folks
who
came
out
and
it
was
interesting
to
kind
of
move
throughout
the
city
and
see
what
everyone
you
know
what
everyone's
opinions
were
in
different
areas
and
I
thought
that
was
really
enlightening,
and
it
strikes
me
that
I
did
all
of
that
work
to
go
to
all
of
these
neighborhoods
in
Boise
and
then
to
say.
No,
you
probably
shouldn't
vote
on
this.
You
should
let
the
next
person
vote
on
that.
B
We
also
talked
to
our
our
annual
meeting
in
December
and
we
did
as
much
educational
information
during
that
meeting
as
we
could
on
the
zoning
code
rewrite
we
had
about
75
people
at
that
meeting.
I
was
also
in
attendance
at
the
victory
library
and
at
West
Junior
High.
When
the
city
came
in
and
gave
that
information
I
talked
to
a
lot
of
residents
in
my
Community,
we
received
comments
by
email.
B
We
received
comments
by
Facebook
and
I
tried
to
incorporate
as
much
as
I
could
we
did
as
much
effort
as
we
could
to
educate
and
engage
our
community,
but
to
remove
neighborhood
associations
from
that
process.
I
think
is
going
to
limit
the
understanding
in
the
education
of
getting
this
information
to
our
communities
and
so
I
think
it's
really
vital
that
neighborhood
associations
are
engaged
with
their
communities.
It
is
very
difficult.
B
I,
agree
with
that
and
I
think
the
city
should
help
us
and
and
not
try
to
put
something
in
in
between
us
so
that
we
we
are
no
longer
able
to
speak
for
them.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
in
my
community
that
feel
marginalized
and
that
the
city
doesn't
listen
to
us,
so
they
don't
come
out
to
these
things
and
they
don't
put
their
information
out,
but
they
rely
on
the
neighborhood
association
to
speak
for
them.
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
G
B
G
G
C
N
G
How
do
you
think
it
should
work
when
a
neighborhood
is
when
a
project
or
development
isn't
going
on
in
a
particular
neighborhood
association?
Should
they
also
get
time
to
testify,
or
is
it
only
the
neighborhood
association
within
that
development,
because
the
problem
would
be
if
there's
20
minutes
per
neighborhood
association
and
we
allow
as
many
neighborhoods,
maybe
who
want
to
do
it
on,
let's
say
an
Interfaith
application,
potentially
that
ends
up
being
a
really
really
long
meeting,
in
addition
to
all
the
people
from
those
neighborhoods
who
are
testified.
G
B
I
think
the
neighborhood
association
is
knows
most
about
what
is
happening
in
their
own
communities
and
hears
from
the
residents
in
the
surrounding
areas.
So
I
do
understand.
There
are
some
projects
that
are
like
on
Border
Lines
of
different
neighborhood
associations
and
I.
Think
that
giving
a
total
amount
of
time,
like
a
total
amount
of
20
minutes,
where
they
figure
out
how
to
best
split
it
up
is,
is
appropriate.
A
Q
My
name
is
Marissa
Keith
I'm
at
3279,
South
Cloverdale
in
Boise
and
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Southwest
data
County
Alliance
neighborhood
association.
So
the
topics
that
I'm
going
to
discuss
our
position
was
voted
on
on
420
and
discussed
again
on
5
8
by
the
swaka
board.
We
had
10
members
at
the
time
of
the
vote,
but
now
we're
down
to
seven
members.
Q
Q
So
the
assured
water
supply
for
50
years.
It
sounds
good.
In
theory.
The
50
years
does
seem
fairly
short,
but
the
assured
water
supply
for
one
development
does
not
guarantee
that
the
water
supply
will
remain
for
their
neighbors.
The
amount
of
water
being
taken
out
and
consumed
is
important,
but
just
as
important
as
the
amount
of
water
being
put
back
into
the
aquifer,
and
so
as
land
use
changes,
particularly
in
Southwest
Boise
from
Ag
and
semi-rural
to
Urban.
Q
The
flood
irrigation
and
it
goes
back
down
into
the
aquifer,
is
reduced,
and
this
will
continue
to
have
an
adverse
effect
on
residents
in
Southwest
Boise
who
rely
on
the
well
so
whether
the
code
addresses
it
or
not.
We
would
encourage
the
city
to
continue
to
explore
and
address
this
issue
and
the
effects
on
residents
and
if
there
are
any
other
ways
to
incorporate
water
seepage
into
the
aquifer
through
additional
features
such
as
unlined
ponds
and
waterways.
I
hope
that
that
is
also
considered
but
either
way
in
the
future.
Q
Q
C
Q
And
support
ownership
of
these
small
mom-and-pop
landlords
and
discourage
the
corporate
landlords
as
much
as
you're
able
to
our
board
also
believes
that
neighborhood
notification
and
awareness
is
support
is
important.
As
part
of
that,
we
would
like
to
see
the
development
tracker
be
placed
on
the
home
page
of
the
website,
the
city
website.
So
it's
much
easier
to
find
other
things
that
we
would
like
to
see
addressed
are
maintaining
the
buffer
between
drive-throughs
and
residential
lots.
A
L
L
Q
The
city
website,
right
now,
you
have
to
I,
believe
you
have
to
go
to
development
services
and
it's
on
a
list
on
the
side.
So
making
it
easier
to
find
would
be
helpful.
Thank
you.
So
swaka
is
not
yet
known
for
our
seller
bike
ped
infrastructure
on
our
materials,
the.
Hopefully
the
new
code
will,
with
the
requirement
of
a
10-foot
pathway
in
Street
trees
on
arterials
and
collectors,
we'll
change
that.
Q
But
the
majority
of
our
neighborhoods
within
their
mild
block
sections
are
very
low
stress
roads,
and
so
our
residents
tend
to
have
more
than
the
average
number
of
children
and
those
kids
ride
within
their
mile
block
sections
a
lot.
So
we
are
seeing
more
and
more
multi-family
dwellings,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
kind
of
picked
up
and
the
board
would
like
to
see
changed-
is
to
tie
the
number
of
long-term
bike
parking
to
the
number
of
bedrooms
in
a
multi-family
unit.
Right
now,
it's
just
tied
to
the
number
of
units.
Q
Q
Council,
member
woodings,
just
for
your
information,
we
have
discussed
the
zoning
code
at
nearly
every
n
a
meeting
for
the
last
three
years.
I
was
on
the
rewrite
committee,
so,
whether
my
board
wanted
to
or
not
they
got
to
hear
about
it,
we
had
over
50
people
at
our
annual
meeting
and
we
discussed
both
sides
of
the
rewrite
there.
Q
We
have
posted
to
Facebook
both
the
City's
community
outreach
events,
the
timelines
for
the
code,
deadlines
for
comments
linked
to
City
web
lights,
websites
for
both
the
draft
and
the
final
versions
we
brought.
We've
brought
this
up
at
mini
developer,
held
neighborhood
meetings,
which
is
always
popular
as
well
as
the
dry
well
meetings
that
were
held
by
a
resident
of
swaka.
There
were
three
which
I
attended
and
those
had
over
70
people
at
each
one.
Q
X
Q
Or
schools?
Okay,
so
we
had
a
this
came
up
last
year,
I
think
we
had
a
potential
drive-through
going
in
next
to
some
residential
residential
that
had
been
approved,
but
not
yet
built
and
the
drive-through
would
have
fallen
within
that
200
foot
buffer
and
so
because
of
that
buffer
it
was
denied.
But
if
that
buffer
had
not
been
there,
then
the
drive-through
would
have
also
gone
next
to
this
developer's
Tot
Lot,
so
I
I
think
one
of
my
writings
in
I've
I
think
I've
written
two
or
three
things:
I'm,
sorry.
Q
A
The
I
had
one
other
question
you
referenced
mom
and
pop
landlords
versus
Corporate
landlords,
and
we've
heard
we
hear
this
and
and
know
that.
There's
concern
about
this
I'm,
not
sure
that
we
have
the
tools
we
all
wish.
We
had
but
I'm
curious
about
that,
neighborhood
that
you
talked
about
where
you
said
there
were
duplexes,
I,
think
and
somebody
lived
in
one
and
on
the
other
side
they
rented
is.
That
was
that
required
in
the
ccnr's
HOA
or
just
it's
just
happened
organically
or
how'd.
Q
That
happen,
it's
just
happened
and
it's
actually
a
neighborhood,
that's
unfinished
from
the
1970s.
There's
still
a
lot
of
empty
lots
there.
So
maybe
it
hasn't
I,
don't
know
why
it
happened.
There
was
just
a
neighborhood
meeting
there
at
one
point
and
everybody
there
seemed
to
be
a
landlord
who
also
lived
there.
A
A
A
C
A
U
For
the
record,
my
name
is
Katie
Decker.
My
address
is
5001
West,
bymosa,
Street
and
I'm,
presenting
on
behalf
of
Veterans
Park
neighborhood
association,
I'd,
just
like
to
open
by
saying
that
our
neighborhood
association
does
support
the
bulk
of
the
the
core
goals
that
we're
talking
about
with
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
that
it's
aiming
to
address.
But
we're
concerned
that
the
adoption
draft
is
written,
may
not
fulfill
the
goals
and
in
some
cases,
May
counter
them.
U
Under
the
proposed
zoning
code,
we
would
expect
to
see
Redevelopment
the
entire
State
Street
Corridor,
which
is
something
that
the
city
has
been
working
towards
for
a
long
time,
but
we'd
also
expect
that
approximately
40
of
the
residential
lots
in
our
neighborhood
would
be
strongly
incentivized
to
be
redeveloped,
because
they
are
those
R2
lots
that
buy
code.
They
will
be
that
the
minimum,
the
new
minimum
lot
size
will
be
half
of
the
current
minimum
lot
size.
U
U
So,
looking
at
the
affordability
and
someone
who's
in
this
code,
I
just
don't
see
any
likelihood
that
the
new
development
that's
coming
would
provide
enough
affordable
units
even
to
re-house.
Our
existing
local,
low-income
residents
living
in
those
40
of
our
R2
will
be
our
two
lots,
who
will
be
likely
to
just
be
displaced
by
this
impending
Redevelopment.
Much
less
of
the
50
of
low-income
units
that
socioeconomically
well
stratified
well,
integrated
neighborhood
would
need
to
house
all
of
those
that
are
making
at
or
below
the
median
income.
U
So
I'd
say
that
the
biggest
issues
I
hear
from
our
neighborhood
residents,
in
addition
to
the
frustration
with
the
reduction
of
the
neighborhood
association
time,
are
the
insufficient
affordability
of
incentives
as
they
apply
to
our
Zone,
coupled
with
the
lack
of
any
affordability
incentives
in
the
MX-5
Zone
and
also
since
mx4
is
eligible
to
basically
up
Zone
into
unlimited
height
with
MX-5.
That's
been
a
concern.
U
So
it's
still
a
drastic
height
difference
that
is
making
people
uncomfortable
the
expansion
of
commercial
uses
and
the
new
R2
zones
that
people
are
currently
in
r1c
and
looking
at
these
new
commercial
areas
coming
in
the
allowance
of
12
unit,
multi-family
developments
in
our
one
areas
with
incentives
and
then
by
far
the
most
I
hear
about
is
the
weakening
of
the
cup
impact
criteria.
Language
which
can
be
used
to
locate,
high-impact
Public
benefit
uses
without
mitigating
the
impacts.
U
So
in
general,
there's
been
a
lot
of
frustration,
although
the
city's
public
position
is
that
no
changes
to
shelter
at
code
are
being
made
here,
there
are
several
changes
that
make
it
easier
to
cite:
shelters
and
other
services
for
the
unhoused
populations
and
a
broader
array
of
zones
than
what
the
code
currently
allows,
or
with
weaker
cup
conditions.
Despite
this
Council
speaking
at
length
about
the
importance
of
being
able
to
apply
conditions
specific
to
the
shelter
proposal
that
was
before
you
last
year.
U
I
also
want
to
know
that
there's
the
inherent
problem
with
relaxing
standards
with
the
intent
of
tightening
them
later,
if
future
government
recognizing
as
any
problems,
that's
both
applicable
to
the
new
height
entitlements
and
new
allowed
use
zones,
but
it
becomes
an
entitlement
associated
with
the
property.
So
any
attempt
to
pull
it
back
later
would
be
considered
a
takings
affecting
the
real
value
of
the
property.
U
So
this
end
I
would
like
to
see
all
of
the
MX
site
increases
under
this
code
to
be
allowed
only
when
affordability
and
sustainability
and
symptoms
are
met
instead
of
a
broad
new
entitlement.
I
hope
that
this
would
allow
the
land
market
to
adjust
to
prices
based
on
supply
of
affordable
units
rather
than
market
rate
units.
U
With
regard
to
the
neighborhood
association
presentation
time,
I
think
the
reduction
of
the
scope
of
the
neighborhood
association
is
concerning,
and
some
of
the
questions
tonight
are
failing
to
acknowledge
the
level
of
privilege.
That's
required
to
be
able
to
present
as
a
member
of
the
public
privileges
such
as
evening
time
available
paying
for
parking
downtown,
navigating
reduced
evening.
Transit
schedules,
experience
with
public
speaking
or
even
having
internet
access,
which
is
something
we
run
into
in
our
neighborhood.
C
A
U
A
U
I
think
that
one
potential
solution
talking
about
the
time
issue
could
be
engineering
a
system
where
you
can
have
members
of
the
public
sign
up
to
testify,
but,
like
click,
a
box
that
allows
them
to
seed
their
time
to
their
neighborhood
association.
To
allow
a
more
centralized
presentation
of
argument
that
could
potentially
reduce
the
overall
time
that
you
spend
listening
but
still
allow
for
the
more
in-depth
arguments
presented
enough
cohesive
manner
with
regard
to
outreach.
U
I'd
say
that
for
at
least
a
year,
maybe
a
year
and
a
half
we've
been
including
sort
of
a
a
change
summary
document
at
our
neighborhood
Gatherings.
So
a
table
set
up
with
a
neighborhood
association
member
present
and
able
to
talk
to
people
and
ask
them
if
they
heard
about
the
zoning
code
and
what
they
see
as
good
and
bad
and
different.
U
We
haven't
really
had
people
sign
a
sheet
and
check
the
box
about
what
they
do
and
don't
support,
but
through
that
process,
I'd
say
I've,
probably
spoken
with
between
100
and
150
people
over
the
last
year
year
and
a
half
and
then
our
board.
So
our
most
recent
board
meetings,
I
think
had
20
or
30
people.
When
we
said
look,
the
zoning
code
is
coming
up.
We've
submitted
our
comments.
This
is
what
they
said,
but
that
was
informed
by
the
broader
testimony.
U
I
would
say
that
our
largest
or
most
well
attended
events
are
the
social
gatherings
and
the
50
food
limit
that
the
city
has
applied
to
grant
funding
does
make
it
challenging
to
host
those,
and
that's
where
we
see
a
lot
of
renter
participation
based
on
some
of
the
the
Privileges
that
we
talked
about
before.
We've
had
trouble
getting
renters
to
who
have
the
time
for
an
evening
meeting
once
a
month
to
commit
to
actually
being
on
the
board.
A
O
Vice
president,
she
was
the
former
president,
okay
great,
that
must
have
been
an
old
form
Madame
mayor
and
city
council.
My
name
is
Mark
Phillips
I
live
at
2815,
West,
Lim,
High,
Street
and
I'm.
The
vice
president
of
Vista,
neighborhood
association,
I've,
lived
in
that
neighborhood
for
25
years
recently,
vice
president
and
involved
in
the
neighborhood
association
for
about
a
year.
So
I'll
do
my
best
to
answer
some
of
your
process.
Questions
we've
compiled
a
letter
that
I've
been
tasked
to
read
here
and
I
will
commence
with
that.
O
The
Vista
neighborhood
association
would
like
to
request
that
the
city
council
defer
voting
on
the
proposed
zoning
code,
rewrite
until
after
the
2023
elections
in
November,
for
the
following
reasons:
Point
number
one,
the
Vista
neighborhood
does
Davis
neighborhood
does
not
currently
have
representative
on
the
city
council.
Our
association
is
particularly
concerned
about
this
situation,
because
our
neighborhood
will
be
greatly
impacted
by
the
zoning
rewrite
we
would
like
to
ensure.
We
have
a
method
to
share
our
thoughts
and
concerns
with
the
city
council.
O
Point
number
two
is:
we
would
prefer
there
be
more
time
allotted
for
Boise
residents
to
read
analyze
and
understand
how
these
potential
changes
would
impact
our
neighborhoods
way
of
life.
Thank
you
for
hearing
our
concerns.
If
you
have
questions,
please
let
us
know,
and
I
of
course
will
stand
for
questions.
O
K
O
O
O
O
G
O
O
A
A
E
You
ready,
okay,
so
Kelly
tag,
1820,
West,
Jefferson,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho
so
good
evening.
I
am
the
President
of
the
West
downtown
neighborhood
association
and
mayor
McLean
and
city
council
I
appreciate
you
allowing
time
for
the
neighborhood
associations
to
provide
our
feedback
and
being
involved
in
this
decision-making
process
and
so
I
apologize.
My
speech
is
going
to
seem
a
little
disjointed
because
I
was
rewriting
it
as
you're
asking
questions,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
I
cover
the
important
points.
E
So
as
far
as
neighborhood
engagement,
so
full
disclosure
I
was
on
the
citizens
advisory
committee.
So
this
is
something
that
I
enthusiastically
talked
at
length.
Anytime
I
had
an
opportunity
in
the
neighborhood.
Also
several
of
our
board
members
and
other
residents
attended
some
of
the
citizen
Outreach
meetings
that
took
place
at
schools
and
libraries
over
the
past
couple
of
years
and
as
far
as
when
there
was
opportunity
to
provide
feedback
on
surveys
and
so
forth,
is
certainly
encouraged.
E
Our
neighbors
to
do
that
by
advertising
on
our
Facebook
page
gen,
as
well
as
our
website
and
also
prior
to
meetings,
especially
when
I
knew
it
was
something
that
was
going
to
be
a
Hot
Topic
that
was
going
to
be
specific
to
our
neighborhood
and
the
citizens
advisory
committee.
I
would
speak
with
the
other
board
members
and
neighbors
to
get
their
feedback
so
that,
as
part
of
my
preparation
for
those
meetings
we
have,
we
currently
have
nine
board
members.
E
We
had
10
at
the
time
that
we
met
and
discussed
and
took
a
vote
specifically
related
to
this
and
I'm,
also
very
proud
to
say.
We
have
three
renters
on
our
board.
We've
worked
really
hard
to
increase
our
Outreach
to
the
renters
in
our
neighborhood
and
they're
fantastic,
so
we're
so
happy
that
they
are
part
of
the
board.
So
we
did
have
a
formal
board
meeting
on
April
12th.
That
was
our
regular
spring
meeting,
and
this
was
the
main
topic
that
we
discussed
and
in
general
the
board
supports
the
zoning
rewrite.
E
But
we
did
have
a
few
concerns
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
covered
those
before
I
answer.
Any
of
the
other
questions
our
number
one
can
concern
is
that
in
the
R3
zone,
or
we
would
like
to
have
the
rc3
Zone
added
to
the
neighborhood
transition
standards
in
sections
11.04.03.5
to
address
the
transition
of
MX
zones
to
the
R3
zone.
E
So
it's
been
a
while,
since
our
associations
had
business
in
front
of
this
board
or
in
front
of
this
Council,
so
I
just
wanted
to
to
kind
of
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
us.
We
are
a
transitional
neighborhood
between
the
very
dense
Urban,
downtown
area
to
the
more
residential
West
down
West
End,
and
we
have
it
once
this
zoning
goes
through.
E
That
is,
you
know
in
that
R3
zoning
in
that
R3
area
that
we
currently
have
small
apartments,
fourplexes
triplexes,
duplexes,
single-family
homes.
Some
of
them
have
been
converted
into
multi-units.
Some
of
them
have
added
Adu,
so
we
have
just
about
every
type
of
housing
in
our
neighborhood
and
so
that,
but
most
of
those
properties
they
are
two
stories
tall
Max.
E
So
along
Fairview
and
state
we
have
the
MX3
and
mx1
Zone,
and
so
we
would
like
to
see
a
transition
ad
in
there.
That
would
include
so
in
that
section
A
the
applicability
to
the
R3
zone
for
that's
a
budding
the
MX
zones
building
and
parking
setbacks,
as
well
as
the
building
height
step
Downs.
The
second
concern
of
the
neighborhood
was
drive
through
facilities.
The
board
applauds
all
of
the
standards
that
were
included
in
drive-throughs,
but
we're
a
little
disappointed
to
see.
E
They
were
added
to
I
think
it's
all
MX
zones
now,
so
it
was
restricted,
fairly
restricted.
Now
it's
all
MX
zones,
and
so
the
main
concern
is
the
new
code
requires
drive-throughs,
be
in
the
back
of
the
buildings.
Well,
that
would
be
part
of
the
building
set
of
but
residential
part
of
our
neighborhoods
and
the
measures.
It
mentions
measures
in
place
to
determine
the
possible
adverse
effects,
but
it
doesn't
say
what
those
measures
are:
it's
not
defined.
E
So
we'd
like
to
see
that
a
little
more
clearly
defined,
and
then
third
you've
heard
a
lot
of
talk
about
this
tonight-
is
the
notifications
of
neighbors
that
are
impacted
by
projects,
especially
in
type
1
and
type
2
projects,
at
the
very
least
a
mailer
to
them.
Just
to
let
the
neighbors
know,
you
know,
information
about
the
project,
the
timeline
and,
most
importantly,
who
to
contact.
E
A
E
Okay,
good
all
right
so
45
seconds,
okay,
good,
so
yeah.
So
the
main
thing
you
asked
about
time
for
neighbor
associations,
I,
say
at
the
very
minimum
10
minutes.
There
are
more
complex
issues
like
the
interface
sanctuary
and
in
our
neighborhood
a
few
years
ago
it
was
a
CVS
Pharmacy.
Those
I
mean
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
that
CVS
Pharmacy.
So
maybe
you
know,
have
an
ability
to
provide
feedback
and
say
you
know.
Maybe
you
know
negotiate
time
for
Neighbors
I.
Also
love
following
Katie
she's,
always
great.
E
Another
thing
is
prioritizing
when
there's
an
issue
in
our
neighborhood
that
might
be
controversial
and
people
from
other
parts
of
the
city
want
to
participate
in
the
conversation
to
prioritize
those
people
from
the
neighborhood,
so
we
can
kind
of
get
in
up
front
and
what
we
did
with
CVS
Pharmacy
is
we
picked
topics
assign
them
to
neighbors,
and
so
we
were
able
to
organize
a
presentation,
and
that
was
really
helpful
in
being
able
to
get
that
done
and
I
think
I
answered.
All
the
questions
did
I.
Okay,
anything
else.
L
H
Evening
Madame
mayor
council
members,
my
name
is
Chris
Testa
I
am
the
I'm
at
900
North
28th
Street
in
Boise
I'm,
the
president
of
the
West
End
Neighborhood,
Association
and
I'll,
be
speaking
on
behalf
of
Weena
today.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
the
time
to
represent
the
views
of
my
neighbors
I
want
to
start
by
acknowledging
the
fact
that
the
city
has
gone
through
a
lengthy,
due
diligence
process
that
has
focused
on
education
and
Outreach
to
our
community.
H
We
felt
that
there
were
many
opportunities
for
input
throughout
the
process
and
we're
grateful
for
the
ongoing
partnership
that
we
have
with
the
city
of
Boise
within
the
boundary
of
the
West
End
Neighborhood.
We
have
approximately
2
700
households
today,
there's
an
estimated
2
000,
more
housing
units
expected
in
currently
approved
plans,
as
well
as
a
10-acre
plot
that
CD
CWI
plans
to
develop
into
a
campus
and
another
44
acres
for
sale.
H
Right
now,
at
the
Idaho
Transportation
Department
facility,
to
say
the
West
End
Neighborhood
is
going
through
Rapid
growth
and
change
would
be
an
understatement
to
keep
our
community
informed
and
represented.
We
formed
a
Housing
and
Development
Committee
as
part
of
our
board
and
they've,
taken
a
proactive
approach
to
working
with
the
city
and
other
stakeholders
who
may
have
an
impact
on
the
fabric
of
the
West
End
I
want
to
take
a
moment
and
read
the
vision
of
our
Housing
and
Development
Committee.
For
you.
H
The
modern
zoning
code,
as
proposed,
seems
to
embody
that
Vision
with
so
many
new
developments
planned
in
the
West
End
we're
hopeful
that
the
modern
zoning
code
will
enhance
our
neighborhood
with
new
and
infill
developments
that
are
thoughtful
and
aligned.
With
that
continued
effort
to
support
the
needs
of
our
community
specific
points
of
emphasis
outlined
in
the
modern
zoning
code
that
we
support
are
housing
for
all
income
levels,
a
safe
and
comfortable
environment
for
walking
and
biking,
expanding
access
to
open
space
and
integrating
nature
into
the
urban
environment
and
supporting
the
resilient
tree.
Canopy.
H
With
that
said,
we
do
have
one
request
of
the
council
regarding
the
zoning
act.
Zoning
code
adoption
draft
one
of
the
pillars
in
the
modern
zoning
code
is
housing
options
that
suit
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
in
the
West
End.
We
somewhat
have
a
unique,
uniquely
large
number
of
early
20th
century
single-story
homes
on
standard
lots
that
are
currently
zoned,
R2
and
R3.
H
H
H
We
feel
that
this
is
an
important
project
and
look
forward
to
being
to
contributing
to
a
community
for
all
before
I
close
I
did
want
to
comment
and
answer
the
question
that
council
member
Halliburton
has
been
asking
and
in
the
back
we've
been
talking
about
and
I
think.
An
idea
that
could
be
beneficial
is
as
opposed
to
changing
the
Mac,
the
allotted
time
allowed,
providing
and
echoing
what.
What
Kelly
tag
had
just
mentioned,
providing
an
opportunity
to
organize
your
neighborhood
members
and
stack
those
testimonies
so
that
you
can
provide
a
coordinated
approach.
H
What
that
does?
Is
it
instead
of
giving
a
select
few
of
neighborhood
association
representatives
in
a
forwarded
amount
of
time?
It
requires
that
those
members
come
together
and
all
testify
in
sequence,
to
provide
their
well
thought
out
deliberations
and
testimony
with
that
I'll
I'll
close.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
J
H
I've
delegated
a
lot
of
the
the
work
related
to
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
to
my
Housing
and
Development
Committee.
As
I
mentioned,
they
were
very
active
in
all
steps
of
the
process
and
appreciated
that
the
testimony
today
was
a
collaboration
with
a
few
of
my
board
members,
which
currently
sits
at
seven
and
has
been
sitting
at
11
for
a
majority
of
our
of
our
time.
H
The
this
topic
has
been
deliberated
and
discussed
at
most
of
our
neighborhood
association
meetings
and
we've
had
countless
questions
and
comments
from
Neighbors
throughout
the
process
and
I
feel,
like.
My
committee
has
taken
a
very
proactive
approach
to
to
getting
the
consensus
opinion
of
our
neighborhood.
Thank.
G
H
So
if
you
have
individuals
so
as
opposed
to
getting
just
that
allotted
five
minutes
or
a
lot
of
ten
minutes,
if
you
have
passionate
individuals,
that
would
be
testifying
for
their
allotted
three
minutes
anyway.
Allowing
those
individuals
to
come
together
and
provide
a
coordinated
presentation
on
behalf
of
the
neighborhood
and
that
Collective,
okay.
G
A
I
I
I
guess
this
was
the
the
portion
of
testimony
from
June,
2nd
through
June,
8th
or
page
236,
only
two
pages.
What
I
would
like
to
add
beyond
that?
Rather
than
going
over
everything
that
we
put
in
writing
to
you
is
I'll,
simply
let
you
know
we're
one
of
your
youngest
neighborhood
associations.
We
were
organized
a
few
years
back
prior
to
the
pandemic,
but
We've
basically
done
everything
we
could
to
survive
during
the
pandemic,
which
has
been
challenging,
but
we've
done.
I
Okay,
we've
managed
to
we
created
and
what
evolved
as
a
position
statement.
We
submitted
that
on
the
zcr
and
the
zoning
code
read
write
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
in
writing
as
well
as
we
made
a
presentation
of
of
all
of
the
points,
and
so
as
part
of
the
record
and
you've
likely
read
it.
In
addition,
we.
I
So
that
yeah,
that
has
basically
our
bullet
points
and
we
tried
to
be
brief.
This
was
an
evolved
prior
to
that
was
an
evolved
position
statement
and
we
became
pretty
engaged
in
Outreach
for
the
Centennial
neighborhood
association
as
members
about
the
time
that
the
Boise
Dev
put
together
a
a
survey
or
they
wanted
to
get
input
and
I
think
almost
I'm
sure
that
all
the
council
members
have
wrote,
read
what
was
produced
by
Boise
Dev
and
the
input
that
they
got.
So
ours
was
in
there
as
well,
and
then
from
that.
I
Unfortunately,
we
were
trying
to
react
to
get
as
much
together
as
we
possibly
could.
As
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
hearings
were
coming
up
as
well
as
yours.
We
did
schedule
and
we
effectively
held
a
meeting
of
our
members
on
April
20th,
whereas
we
we
presented
the
position
statement
and
we
built
consensus
in
there
and
and
finalized
it.
We
even
adopted
resolution
because
we're
a
young
neighborhood
association,
we've
really
tried
to
be
by
the
book
and
and
I
think
that
I
understand
and
council
member
bajans
concerned
about
boys.
I
Does
this
just
become
a
small
group
of
people
that
are
sort
of
running
the
whole
show
we're
trying
to
do
the
exact
opposite
of
that
which
is
consistent
with
what
you've
asked
us
to
do,
based
on
the
bylaws
structure
that
we
have
and
so
getting
our
members
to
participate
very
challenging.
But
we
have
a
large
mailing
list
of
what
we
believe
is
a
large
mailing
list
of
about
70
people
who
actively
receive
our
mass
emails.
We
use
social
media
as
well
as,
if
you
look
at
our
website
at
any
time,
centennialna.org.
I
We
have
done
an
incredible
job
of
trying
to
be
extremely
transparent,
put
a
lot
of
information
out
there
and,
in
fact,
create
a
lot
of
links
to
City
activities,
particularly
with
regard
to
the
zoning
code
rewrite
we
have
other
initiatives
beyond
that.
But
what
we
found
is
that
the
the
zoning
code
rewrite
is
a
fairly
complex
piece
of
business
and
it's
not
a
magnet
for
getting
people
engaged
and
involved,
partly
because
it's
different
difficult
to
get
your
head
around
and
I
think
that
we
recognize
that
while
we
were
building
consensus.
I
I
So,
if
we're
doing
that,
it
does
beg
the
question:
are
the
neighborhood
associations
truly
being
valued
for
the
potential
that
they
offer
the
city's
leadership?
If
we
can
bring
you
synthesized
vetted
condensed
input
for
these
issues?
We
think
we're
doing
a
good
job
for
you
and
we
can
do
it
with
time
efficiency.
I
So
that
takes
us
to
the
question
of
well.
What
do
we
think
we
need
in
order
to
present
for
you,
which
is
certainly
the
one
that
10
minutes
is
an
absolute
minimum.
We
believe,
and
if
it's
a
fairly
quick
thing
for
us
to
review,
we'll
use
three
and
we'll
step
away
from
the
podium.
If
it's
a
complex
issue
where
we've
got
a
developer,
that's
in
our
backyard
wrong
term
to
use
that's
in
our
within
our
borders.
Trying
to
build
something
in
is
highly
controversial
and
yeah.
I
I
With
regard
to
our
Outreach,
going
back
to
council
member
woodings
question
is
boy:
we
try
to
get
everything
out
that
we
possibly
can
for
those
via
our
website.
Emails,
We've
even
done
knocking
on
doors
over
some
issues
and
and
we're
not
doing
a
lot
in
terms
of
lit
drops
because
we
have
funding
concerns,
but
we
would
like
to
see,
as
was
suggested
by
another
n,
a
that,
if
there's
a
possibility
of
actually
doing
more
multiple
postcard
mailers
during
the
course
of
the
year,
we
might
have
better
Outreach
that
way
as
well.
I
I
G
G
This
probably
isn't
the
appropriate
time
to
do
it.
But
if
you
have
ideas
tools
that
you
think
would
make
it
easier
for
your
neighborhood
to
neighborhood
association
to
engage
with
the
rest
of
your
neighbors.
We
have
a
new
energized
position
at
the
city
of
Boise
and
I'd,
be
really
interested
in
your
feedback
on
tools
that
you
think
could
help
strengthen
the
Outreach
process.
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
for
testifying.
A
A
A
K
A
couple
of
questions
both
from
your
initial
presentation
and
from
some
of
the
comments
from
neighborhood
associations.
My
first
question
pertains
to
the
R2
conversion
Zone
and
it's
I.
Guess
it's
a
simple
question:
is
it
too
narrow?
It's
only
an
eighth
of
a
mile
which
is
661
feet
from
the
center
line
of
a
road?
K
D
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
and
debate
about
it
in
the
public
process
and,
as
a
result,
we
reduce
that
to
an
eighth
of
a
mile
from
the
center
line.
So
so
I
will
tell
you
that
a
quarter
mile
is
often
used
as
the
the
right
distance
and
and
the
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is,
you
know,
remember
with
the
R2
conversions.
D
This
is
an
intentional
action
related
to
this
issue
of
we
don't
get
these
chances
that
often,
let's
really
organize
this
thing
around
the
city
that
we
want
and
the
the
development
pattern
that
is
appropriate
to
this
city
and
that
R2
conversion
adjacent
to
those
mx3s
is
an
important
one
of
many
decisions.
We're
making,
but
that's
an
important
one
and
so
I
think
it's
an
important
question
and
and
so
I'm
giving
you
an
answer
that
I
hope
is
helpful,
but
you
know
usually
that
quarter
mile
is
the
threshold.
K
K
Neighborhood
is
the
opposite
of
equity
and
Justice
in
my
mind,
but
what's
the
argument
for
owner
occupancy
rules
on
things
like
adus,
because
I
right
now
classifying
somebody
on
the
basis
of
their
ability
to
purchase
real
estate
or
not
or
they're,
whether
they
can
live
in
real
estate
or
not
seems
arbitrary?
To
me?
Well,.
D
I
think
the
the
specifically
council
member
Beijing
related
to
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
aspect
of
the
ordinance.
You
got
to
remember
that
with
the
within
those
same
districts
that
were
permitting
an
accessory
dwelling
unit,
we're
also
permitting
two
units
on
a
lot,
so
not
an
accessory
unit,
but
two
primary
units
on
a
lot
and
we're
actually
in
this
proposal,
including
more
than
that,
if,
if
they're
affordable,
so
the
the
thing
that's
unique
to
the
accessory
dwelling
unit.
Part
of
this
is
that
it's
an
accessory
unit.
D
So
the
idea
with
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
is
you
have
the
primary
residence
and
then
you
have
an
accessory.
So
in
those
cases
you've
got,
you
know,
you've
got
someone
that
owns
the
property,
that's
living
there
and
then
has
an
accessory
unit
that
they
can
rent
out.
You
know
to
they
can
have
for
a
family
member.
D
They
can
rent
out
to
someone
else,
but
I
think
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
is
is
a
very
specific
thing,
but
that
doesn't
preclude
other
ways
of
approaching
multiple
units
on
a
lot
that
makes
the
city
more
inclusive
and
available
to
people.
There's
many
other
options.
It's
just
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
is
a
specific
thing.
K
D
K
It
third
unrelated
thing-
this
is
a
bigger
topic.
I
think
we're
going
to
discuss
as
the
week
goes
on,
but
I'd
like
an
introduction
to
a
conversation
about
the
third
rail
of
local
politics,
which
is
parking
my
recollection
of
that
this
draft
as
it
developed
is
it
the
parking
minimums
in
different
parts
of
the
city
have
gone
all
over
the
place.
We've
landed
where
we
landed
by
a
process
of
consensus.
I
understand.
Can
you
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
that
generally
like
where
we
started?
K
D
Yes,
thank
you,
council,
member
quickly,
just
the
way
you
described
our
process
is
correct,
where
we
started
with
more
significant
Cuts
in
required
Austria
parking
and
just
so
everybody's
on
the
same
page,
what
we're
talking
about
is
what
the
zoning
ordinance,
what
the
public,
through
its
zoning
ordinance,
requires
in
terms
of
off
street
parking.
It
doesn't
mean
how
much
parking
we
have,
because
in
lots
of
cases,
as
you
know,
we
get
number
one.
We
get
requests
for
more
parking
than
we
already
require,
or
in
some
cases
we
get
requests
for
Less
parking.
D
The
parking
tends
to
be
a
product
of
where
it
is
and
and
what
the
approach
to
the
development
is.
So
what
we're
really
talking
about
here
is
what
is
the
public
require
of
someone
as
it
relates
to
parking?
We
started
with
more
significant
reductions
in
off
street
parking
requirements
for
the
city
related
to
all
kinds
of
uses,
and
we
ended
up
where
we
are
as
a
result.
As
you
said,
council
member,
through
a
public
process,
there
was
a
lot
of
debate.
D
As
you
know,
emotions
run
high
on
in
this
particular
topic
and
those
that
feel
there's
not
enough
parking
that
exists,
and
then
others
that
think
we
shouldn't
be
requiring
any
I
do
think.
The
direction
is
towards
less
definitely
required
parking
in
cities,
because
parking
is
devastating
in
many
ways
to
to
the
kind
of
you
know
devastating
to
the
life
of
the
city
number
one
and
number:
two,
it's
incredibly
expensive.
You
know
we,
we
hear
all
the
time.
I'm
sure
you'll
hear
this
week
how
expensive
a
single
parking
space
is
even.
D
Space
but
my
goodness,
a
a
deck
parking
space
is
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars,
so
the
expense
of
it
and
how
devastating
it
is
to
a
city
environment
is
why
I
think
cities
are
really
moving
towards
the
elimination
of
those
kinds
of
requirements
and
and
and
and
and
when
you
think
about
it
as
a
community
I
think
it
makes
sense.
You
know
it's
just
really
a
reflection
of
what
we
value.
D
J
Madam
mayor,
thank
you
for
answering
more
questions.
Tim.
One
thing
that
I
heard
from
a
couple
of
different
neighborhood
associations
was
having
conditions
in
a
conditional
use
permit,
or
maybe
a
PUD
that
we're
never
fulfilled
and
tools
that
we
may
have
to
be
able
to
make
sure
those
are
fulfilled
as
part
of
a
development.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
talk
about
if
this
addresses
that
or
how
we
might
go
about?
Addressing
that.
D
This
does
address
that,
but
I'll
speak
to
this
council
member
woodings
from
the
perspective
of
knowing
these
cases
that
we're
discussing
and
having
looked
into
these
cases
that
we're
discussing
and
I
can
tell
you
that
what
happened
in
these
occasions
is
that
and
and
putting
aside
the
issue
of
code
enforcement
for
just
a
minute.
This
is
a
specific
thing
around
how
the
zoning
ordinance
deals
with
conditions
applied
to
permits
that
go
through
city
council
and
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
in
each
of
these
cases
the
language
around
those
conditions
was
not
adequate.
D
You
know
it
was.
It
was
vague
it
it
didn't.
It
wasn't
specific
enough
around
at
what
at
what
point
must
the
developer
install
those
improvements
so
consistently
across
these
cases
where
we
haven't
had
improvements
made
for
years?
If
you
go
back
to
the
zoning
you'll
you'll
scratch
your
head
and
say
why
would
they
put
it
like
that?
This
is
not
specific
enough,
and-
and
so
that's
what
happens
you
know.
So
we
have
learned
from
that,
and
you
have
to
be
very
specific
and
to
the
points
made
this
evening
by
several
residents.
J
D
D
We
started,
as
someone
mentioned
earlier
this
evening,
limiting
drive-throughs
to
a
much
larger
degree
than
we
ended
up,
including
in
this
final
version,
because
originally
we
were
not
going
to
permit
them
in
some
of
these
MX
zones
like
MX3,
we
were
not
going
to
permit
them
at
all
and
we
got
a
lot
of
feedback
from
commercial
builders
that,
in
particular
in
realtors
that
that
wasn't
realistic.
You
know
so
we
ended
up
shifting
to
a
standard
that
would
allow
them
in
those
districts,
but
include
these
design
standards
around
how
they
must
be
located.
D
D
D
D
So
it's
that
former
200
foot
requirement
that
existed
in
the
C1
only
and
C1
is
like
the
most
intense
commercial
District
that
the
city
currently
has.
So
in
that
C1
you've
got
that
existing
200
foot
setback,
it
does
go
away
and
in
the
MX
zones
you've
got
this
10
foot
setback
that
is
in
the
proposed
ordinance.
X
Mayor
some
of
my
questions
have
already
been
asked,
but
I
wanted
to
I've
obviously
heard
a
lot
about
notification
and
public
comment
from
most
the
neighborhood
associations
here,
especially
around
the
type
2
and
so
I
wondered
if
you
could
just
articulate
again
the
rationale
behind
that
change
in
the
code.
Thank.
D
You
and
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
that
question.
The
let
me
mention
first,
that
the
idea
around
the
types
one
two
three
and
four
and
the
types
one
and
two
in
particular
that
do
not
require
public
hearing
was
never
requested
us
requested
of
us
from
the
development
Community.
It
was
mentioned
a
couple
times
tonight,
I
understand
developers
like
the
better
process.
D
To
make
that
easier
to
do
and
a
big
part
of
that
is
to
have
a
process
that
doesn't
include
the
risk
and
uncertainty
of
public
hearings,
because
when
you
go
to
a
public
hearing
which
could
be
pnz
or
it
could
be
pnz
and
city
council,
the
level
of
risk
and
uncertainty
associated
with
that
means
that
most
people
can't
do
it.
Unless
you
have
the
means,
you
have
the
Consultants
the
lawyers
to
go
through
that
process.
D
Also
within
the
type
2
is
something
called
a
loud
use
allowed
form,
which
is,
if
you're
on
not
the
whole
city,
but
if
you're
in
these
MX3
zones
or
you're
on
one
of
those
corridors
or
in
the
activity
centers.
Where
density
is
helpful
and
we
need
it
as
a
community,
if
you're,
building
densely
you're
at
four
stories
or
more,
you
don't
have
to
go
to
a
public
hearing.
If
you're,
building
less
dense,
probably
a
single
story,
building
with
surface
parking,
you
have
to
go
to
a
public
hearing.
D
So
the
whole
rationale
behind
the
the
type
2
is
to
make
those
things
that
we
want
easier
to
accomplish,
and
so
there's
two
things
that
have
been
requested
related
to
the
type
two
well
I.
Think
there's
one
primary
thing:
that's
been
requested
related
to
the
type
2
and
you
heard
that
tonight,
which
is
just
to
notify
the
Neighbors
in
those
cases
which
we
currently
are
not
requiring
in
this
version
of
the
code,
but
so
I
think
the
step
that's
been
requested
really
has
been
that
notification.
D
So
if
we
get
a
type
2
application
that
we
would
go
ahead
and
I
think
even
one
of
the
last
speakers
spoke
to
when
you
get
that
application
you're
approving
something
just
send
out
that
notice
to
the
neighbors,
the
postcard
or
whatever,
and
that's
what's
been
requested
as
the
change.
But
I
do
think
it's
important
that
that
not
shift
into
a
public
hearing
process
or
you
start
to
lose.
The
point
of
you
know
making
what
we
want
easier
to
do.
X
X
Language
in
the
cups,
that's
now
added
that
the
phrase
that
allows
us
to
evaluate
if
it's
in
the
public
benefit
or
for
the
public
good
I
can't
remember
the
exact
language,
but
it
came
up
a
couple
of
times
tonight
that
there's
an
argument
there
that
that
means
that
we
can
always
make
an
argument.
That's
for
the
public
benefit,
as
opposed
to
taking
the
interest
of
the
areas.
D
X
D
G
First
question
I
think
is
just
some
clarification
to
a
question
that
council
president
woodings
asked
earlier.
I
think
we're
talking
specifically
to
some
trail
access
issues
that
we've
seen
before
in
the
past.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
understood
you
is
it
that
the
code
wasn't
written
strongly
or
specifically
enough
and
that's
changed
or
was
it
that
Council
in
their
motion
didn't
give
strong
enough
language
for
it
to
actually
be
enacted.
G
D
The
sense
that,
because
the
the
new
code,
the
code
we're
proposing
is
is
is,
is,
is
specific
about
those
improvements
number
one,
but
also
you
know
we
as
staff.
This
isn't
a
council
issue,
because
some
of
these
cases
wouldn't
come
to
council,
but
but
we're
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
important
decisions,
the
city
made
in
the
past
was
not
clear
enough
about
when
those
requirements
must
be
installed.
So
it's
really
both
council
member.
G
D
Mayor
council,
member
Hallie
Burton,
we
have
been
discussing
that
and
discussed
it
quite
a
bit
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
and
and
said
at
that
time,
which
is
important.
This
is
an
important
decision
for
the
city
to
make,
because
you
have
other
cities
in
this
country
that
have
adopted
new
zoning
rules
and
assumed
that
they
would
not
change
them,
that
they
would.
They
were
perfect
and,
and
they
would
sit
on
those
rules
for
years
and-
and
that
creates
a
lot
of
frustration
and
we
have.
We
have
gone
into
this
understanding.
D
Our
greatest
challenge
is
to
create
an
ordinance,
as
we
discussed
earlier,
that
as
commensurate
with
this
place
physically
period
and
then
also
to
create
a
set
of
regulations
that
we
know
will
need
to
keep
working
on.
So
the
incentives
is
a
great
example
of
this.
We
want
to
make
sure
those
affordability
incentives
work,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
check
in
with
Council
on
a
regular
basis.
We
we
want
everyone
to
understand
that
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
community
process.
As
I
said,
1966
we
weren't
experts
in
sprawl.
D
Today,
we've
got
a
chance
to
become
experts
in
growing
in
the
opposite
direction,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
perfect.
There
are
aspects
of
it
that
we
think
are
perfect,
but
there
are.
There
are
lots
of
details
that
we're
going
to
keep
working
on.
So
we
think
it's
a
regular
Cadence
with
city
council
and
so
the
most
time
between
the
adoption
or
the
effective
date
of
the
ordinance
and
some
kind
of
review
would
be
12
months
and
honestly
early
in
the
process.
D
It's
probably
going
to
be
more
often
than
that
that
we
come
and
give
a
a
nice
presentation
on
how
we're
doing
those
with
those
metrics
that
we
established
related
to
measuring
how
successful
the
ordinance
is
being
and
proposing
on
a
regular
basis.
We
need.
We
need
to
do
some
fine
tuning
not
moving
in
a
different
direction,
but
just
making
sure
that
we're
tightening
it
up
as
we
as
we
move
and
we're
experiencing
it.
G
Perfect,
thank
you
and
then
I
think
my
last
question
for
tonight
and
this
one
may
not
be
able
to
be
answered
right
now,
but
there
was
several
different
people
that
brought
up
a
variety
of
different
water
issues,
especially
groundwater
issues,
and
then
some
specific
requests
for
requirements
for
recharge,
so
not
necessarily
just
water
use
but
actually
requirements
for
recharging
back
into
the
to
log
for
the
groundwater.
I
don't
know
if
that's.
A
N
Madame
mayor
Mr,
Keane
I'm
wondering
if
the
criteria
around
conditional
use
permits
granting
those
and
situations
involving
manufactured
homes,
nursing
homes
Etc.
If
that
has
changed
in
this
proposal,
I
I,
like
the
idea
that
we
would
have
to
have
a
conditional
use
permit
on
if
the
use
of
those
properties
changes.
But
what
I'm
worried
about
is
even
with
a
conditional
use
permit.
Do
we
really
have
the
teeth
to
protect
those
types
of
developments?
Well,.
D
Mayor
council,
member
Nash,
the
the
only
change
to
what's
being
proposed
and
is
before
you
tonight,
and
this
is
reflected
in
that
June
1st
memo
is
the
addition
of
that
conditional
use
requirement
to
the
R2
and
R3
districts
and
and
those
other
MX
districts,
because
we
just
had
it
in
the
MX
three
four
and
five,
so
we're
proposing
to
expand
that.
That's
the
only
change.
D
We've
talked
a
lot
about
this
issue
of
adding
additional
requirements
to
those
conditional
uses
and
and
we're
not
recommending
that
we
we
do
think
that
the
protection
that's
provided
is
the
requirement
that
someone
that's
redeveloping
property.
That
would
result
in
that
displacement
has
to
come
to
a
public
discussion
around
those
things
before
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
and
before
City
Council,
and
that
it's
it's
better
not
to
to
you
know
there
was
discussion
of.
Do
you.
Do
you
recommend
certain
things
in
the
zoning
ordinance?
D
You
know
have
general
policies
which
we
can
develop,
but
the
zoning
ordinance
isn't
a
place
for
those
things.
You
know
the
zoning
ordinances
around.
What
are
the
specific
zoning
requirements
that
you
have?
So
what
we're
suggesting
is
that
the
zoning
ordinance's
role
is
to
require
that
public
discussion
through
a
conditional
use
permit
and
then
we
can
keep
working
on
what
are
the
policies?
How
can
we
make
that
consistent
as
a
as
people
come
through,
and
you
know
we'll
have
cases
like
that?
We
we
don't
want.
D
A
All
right
that
is
it
for
this
evening,
I
want
to
thank
everybody,
those
of
you
that
are
still
here
and
those
of
you
that
came
but
have
headed
home
and
watched.
The
recap
really
appreciate
all
the
thought:
attention
and
information
that
was
shared
with
us
tonight,
I
think
the
team
again
for
the
presentation,
the
work
that
went
into
it
and
the
work.
That's
got
us
here
and
we
will
see
everybody
tomorrow,
two
o'clock
at
two
o'clock,
and
so
we've
got
a
sign
up
sheet
that
I'll
start
to
work
through
I'll.
A
Probably,
first
ask
from
a
scheduling
perspective.
If
there
are
folks
that
really
like
need
to
go
for
real
reasons
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
then
we'll
go
back
and
forth
in
some
sort
of
order
between
folks,
online
and
folks
in
person
and
right
now,
we're
scheduled
to
go
until
six,
but
I'll
also
say
we
might
just
leave
open
I'm
going
to
leave
open
some
flexibility
towards
the
end
to
take
some
more
folks
if,
if
you're
here
so
with
that,
we
will
see
you
tomorrow.
Thank
you
all
very
much.