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From YouTube: Boise City Council - Strategic Planning Session
Description
March 29, 2022
B
A
For
this,
for
today's
meeting,
we've
invited
both
the
sheriff
and
the
assessor
to
join
us
to
share
presentations
with
the
council
on
the
public
and
then
we'll
move
into
the
budget
which
I'll
introduce
when
it's
eric's
turn
to
come
on
up.
But
I
want
to
welcome
both
thanks
for
being
here
and
first
we'll
hear
from
sheriff
matt
clifford.
C
C
Do
you
know
each
other
and
yeah
we
kind
of
do
and
that,
because
we
work
very
closely
together
as
almost
as
one
agency
when
times
are
tough,
like
with
the
mall
shooting
and
incidents
like
that,
so
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there
before.
I
tell
you
how
great
my
agency
is
that
the
agencies
in
ada
county
are
really
some
really
premier
agencies.
C
So
the
county
sheriff's
office
is
the
largest
largest
law
enforcement
agency
in
idaho
we
patrol
about
a
thousand
sixty
square
miles
of
land
and
three
thousand
and
thirty
miles
of
roadway.
We
contract
with
the
cities
of
star
eagle
and
cuna,
and
then,
of
course,
we
patrol
the
unincorporated
areas
of
ada
county.
C
So
with
those
contracts,
cunestar
and
eagle
have
their
own
police
departments,
but
they
are
all
ada
county
sheriff's
office
and
helps
us
kind
of
tailor
law
enforcement
services
to
those
specific
communities
because,
as
you
as
you
know,
cuna
star,
eagle,
all
very
different
cities
and
sometimes
need
different
kinds
of
policing
just
based
on.
What's
in
the
community.
Madam.
D
E
F
C
F
C
We
process
all
the
court
paperwork
comes
in
to
us
for
like
protection
order
service
and
things
like
that.
So
what
we'll
do
when
they
come
in
from
the
courts
so
in
in
a
sense?
Yes,
when
those
documents
come
in
from
the
courts,
then
we
contact
whatever
municipality
needs,
to
serve
those
orders
and
then
they'll
come
to
barrister
and
pick
them
up.
C
C
So
over
800
employees,
like
I
said
of
those
800,
it
looks
like
299,
live
in
the
city
of
boise,
it's
about
34,
because
the
agency
does
so
many
things
and
I'll
go
over
them
briefly,
but
because
we
do
so,
there
are
many
different
facets
to
what
we
do,
that
on
other
agencies
in
the
state.
Don't
do
we've
divided
ourselves
up
into
five
different
bureaus
police
services,
bureau,
jail
services,
court
services,
administrative
and
communications,
and
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
just
run
through
those
bureaus
really
quickly
and
give
you
an
overview
of
what
what
they
do.
C
So
this
your
police
services?
This
is
what
you
see
in
front
of
you
every
day
out
on
the
streets,
we're
all
familiar
with
patrol
officers.
We
have
one
of
the
largest
canine
units
in
the
state.
We
run
a
metro,
swat
team,
so
our
swat
team
is
comprised
of
the
bulk
is
ada
county
sheriff
deputies,
and
then
we
have
meridian
police
officers
and
garden
city
police
officers
and
helps
us
really
coordinate
our
responses
to
those
cities.
C
Of
course,
we
have
narcotics
unit.
We
have
what
we
call
an
action
team
that
is
basically
a
small
street
crimes
team.
They
do
they're
kind
of
the
jack-of-all-trades
when
we
need
maybe
a
dangerous
felon
apprehended,
we'll
put
them
on
it
as
a
project,
or
maybe
we
have
a
problem
house
in
a
neighborhood
where
we
get
repeated
calls
for
service
we'll
have
we'll
have
them
start
focusing
on
what
the
how
to
solve
that
problem.
C
Our
action
team
is
going
to
be
very,
very
similar
to
what
boise
police
has
their
ncos,
which
are
the
neighborhood
contact
officers
and
then
our
detectives
for
persons,
crimes,
property
crimes,
feveral
crimes,
and
we
run
a
crime
la
a
crime
lab
that
does
a
lot
of
different
things.
We
all
agencies
have
to
take
and
send
their
drug
seizures
to
the
state
of
idaho
for
testing
we've
gotten
up
to
where
we
do
all
of
our
own
in-house
testing.
For
that
we
can
do
ballistics
testing
we're
working
towards
trying
to
do
our
own
dna
testing.
F
C
Biggest
advantage
is
time.
The
state
lab
does
testing
for
everyone
all
around
the
state.
So
I
I'm
not
gonna.
I
don't
know
the
exact
time,
but
I'll
just
give
you
an
example.
Let's
say
you
have
some
meth
that
was
taken
off
the
street
and
you
need
to
test
it.
Have
it
tested
in
a
lab
to
make
sure
it
is
actually
meth
any
agency
would
send
it
to
the
idaho
state
lab
and
it
gets
put
in
line
with
all
of
those
other
samples
from
around
the
state
where
we
can
take
it.
C
G
C
C
They
are
responsible
for
a
lot
of
things,
not
just
problems
inside
the
school,
but
they
also
help
monitor
health
and
welfare
referrals
that
are
given
to
that
are
submitted
from
health
and
welfare
to
the
sheriff's
office.
If
that
child
lives
in
the
school.
Sorry,
if
that
child
is
enrolled
in
that
school,
then
the
school
resource
officer
will
often
take
that
on
as
a
case,
and
then,
of
course,
they
investigate
investigate
crimes
within
the
school,
some
of
them
teach
classes
in
the
schools
on
safety,
and
things
like
that.
C
We've
even
have
some
of
them
coach
sports
within
the
schools.
Every
one
of
these
schools
is
a
little
bit
different,
so
we
do
allow
the
school
to
have
a
lot
of
leeway
with.
How
do
you
want
your
school
resource
officer
to
to
interact
with
the
school?
Do
you
want
them
as
basically
part
of
your
your
administration,
or
do
you
want
them
to
be
much
more
responsive
and
almost
always
they
want
them
very
much
to
integrate
into
the
you
know
the
school
employees,
so
they
do
a
lot
of
different
activities
any
like.
C
G
C
Is
just
public
schools,
so
the
funding
the
the
sheriff's
office
is
not
funded
to
provide
those
deputies
into
schools.
That's
why
we
have
that's
why
the
school
district
has
to
fund
it.
So
private,
a
private
school
could
fund
a
school
resource
officer,
but
it
would
be
under
a
contractual
basis,
just
like
our
city
police,
that
we
would
have
to
have
a
contract
that
says,
if
you
want
a
deputy,
then
you're
going
to
have
to
pay
for
it,
because
the
commissioners
didn't
give
me
the
money
to
fund
one
for
the
school
and.
C
So
this
we'll
move
on
to
the
jail
services,
and
this
is
going
to
be
part
of
the
sheriff's
office
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
see.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
have
toured
our
jail.
If
you
haven't,
I
would
highly
recommend
it.
The
jail
services
is
the
largest
part
of
my
budget,
and
it
is,
quite
frankly,
has
the
largest
liability
in
our
agent
agency,
because
what
we're
doing
is
now
we're
directly
caring
for
individuals.
We
need
to
provide
them
with
medical
housing.
C
We
need
to
make
sure
that
their
welfare
is
is
maintained,
whether
that's
just
safety
in
the
form
of
clothing,
food
and
all
of
that
so
currently,
as
of
today,
we
have
about
a
thousand
inmates
in
our
jail.
It
is
the
largest
jail
in
the
state
of
idaho.
It
is,
I
would,
I
would
go
ahead
and
label
it
as
overcrowded
right
now.
C
Our
community's
been
growing
and
our
jail
hasn't
grown
all
that
much,
but
I
I'll
go
through
a
little
bit
more
of
how
we
keep
people
outside
of
our
jail,
but
we've
done
a
really
great
job
over
the
years
of
implementing
programs
with
the
courts.
Where
we
can
say
these
people
can
be
monitored
outside
of
jail
until
we
can
get
them
to
their
court,
their
court
hearing
or
while
they're
serving
time
and
these
people
have
to
remain
in
jail
just
based
on
all
kinds
of
criteria.
C
Well,
the
issue
today
is
because
our
population
has
grown
so
much
the
number
of
inmates
that
we
don't
want
outside
the
jail
until
they
go
through
court
has
grown,
and
what
I
always
tell
people
is
it's
not
that
the
crime
rate
has
gone
up.
It's
just
that.
Let's
pretend
one
percent
of
the
population
commits
all
the
crime.
Well,
it's
still
remaining
at
one
percent,
but
that
number
that
is,
one
percent,
is
getting
bigger.
So
I
started
my
career
in
the
jail
22
years
ago
and
it
was
a
much
different
place.
C
C
We
do
a
thing
called
what
we
call
it
a
jail
sweep
every
week
and
it
basically
identifies
it,
identifies
people
that
are
maybe
in
on
a
charge.
That's
a
much
lesser
charge,
there's
a
bond,
they
can't
pay
the
bond
and
we,
you
have
to
think
well
they're
going
to
get
stuck
in
this
revolving
door.
If
we
don't
do
something
about
that,
so
if
somebody's
in
on
a
dui
that
has
a
300
bond
and
they
can't
afford
it
and
now
they're
stuck
in
jail
and
they're
going
to
lose
their
job.
C
C
Some
of
the
people
that
are
in
there
are
also
serving
time.
You
only
serve
time
on
misdemeanors
in
the
county
jail.
Typically,
you
serve
felony
time
at
the
state
prison.
We
do
get
some
people
that
get
sentenced
on
felonies
to
the
ada
county
jail-
it's
not
common,
but
we
just
had
a
manslaughter
case
where
judge
sentenced
them
to
a
year
in
the
county
jail
very
uncommon.
But
but
it
happens.
C
We
also
house,
u.s,
marshall
holds
and
then
of
course,
you've
probably
seen
in
the
news
over
the
years,
the
idoc
inmates
that
are
sentenced
that
are
awaiting
transport
out
to
the
prison
with
covid.
That
became
a
very
difficult
situation
because
they
were
trying
to
quarantine,
we're
trying
to
quarantine
and
they
want
to
take
people
in
and
of
course,
we
wanted
to
get
people
out.
C
We
worked
pretty
closely
with
them
and
we've
got
some
of
that
figured
out,
but
in
in
with
counties
we
can
share
information
as
sheriffs
to
say:
hey,
can
you
take
hey
adams
county?
Do
you
want
to
take
these
state
inmates
and
they
can
take
them
and
hold
them
and
then
that
state
can
come
pick
them
up
from
there?
C
C
We
have
to
provide
a
lot
of
medical
needs
for
these
folks
and
a
lot
of
them,
I'm
not
going
to
say
a
lot
of
them,
but
but
a
portion
of
them
that
come
into
the
jail
need
medical
care
and
they
don't
either
don't
have
it
or
they
don't
seek
it
out
outside
of
the
jail.
And
so
when
they
land
in
the
lap
of
the
sheriff's
office,
we
are
obligated
to
provide
them
with
the
medical
care
that
they
actually
need.
C
C
C
So
that
statistic
there
says
that
we
can
house
up
to
1116
inmates.
That
is,
what's
called
a
that's
going
to
be
the
operational
capacity.
So
if
we
stacked
them
all
in
there
like
cord
would
we
could
do
over
1200,
but
that's
not
going
to
be
safe
for
inmates
or
deputies
and,
quite
frankly,
we
can't
give
them
the
resources
they
need.
If
we
did
that,
we
could
put
1116
in
there.
C
So
that
means
people
are
sleeping
on
what
we
call
boats,
they're
big
plastic
costs
that
just
lay
on
the
ground.
We
really
really
try
to
avoid
that,
so
this
year
will
probably
be
the
year
where
we
try
and
figure
out
how
we
can
get
funding
to
increase
the
size
of
the
jail
and
we're,
and
we're
also
still
going
to
try
and
bolster
those
programs
outside
the
jail
as
well
and
another
thing.
People
don't
think
about
the
jail.
Is
it's
a
little
town?
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
information
sheriff.
I
actually
have
spent
some
time
in
your
facility
as
an
inmate
briefly
for
about
six
hours.
Okay,
for
the
add
the
words
okay,
a
few
years
back,
which
I'm
really
grateful
for
to
have
had
that
experience.
I
think
everyone
should
spend
some
time
in
jail
as
an
inmate
to
truly
understand
that
it
doesn't
matter
how
nice
the
facility
is.
G
When
you
have
your
freedom
taken
from
you,
it's
a
dehumanizing
experience
and
I
understand
there
are
reasons
for
it,
but
I
think
it's
it
it's
one
of
the
experiences
I'm
so
grateful
that
I've
had.
I
now
know
what
that
feeling
is
like
to
be
behind
bars
to
have
to
use
the
bathroom
in
front
of
other
people
to
not
to
be
less
than
human,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
difficult
task
it
is
to
to
manage
that
type
of
population.
G
C
Sure
and
then-
and
I
apologize
for
the
slang,
but
basically
those
are
going
to
be
people
that
are
that
are
going
to
be
the
ones
that
have
committed
the
types
of
crimes
where
we
don't
want
to
let
them
out
into
the
community
until
they've
gone
through
their
court
process.
So
there
are
enough
factors
there
to
say
this
person
is,
maybe
is
dangerous
to
the
community
or
at
least
dangerous
to
a
victim
which
is
usually
much
more
of
of
the
the
criteria.
So
let's
say
somebody
who's
in
on
a
felony
domestic
battery.
Okay!
C
Well,
this
person
is
dangerous
to
this
victim.
They
might
not
victimize
their
neighbors,
they
might
not
victimize
someone
in
a
grocery
store,
but
that
person
needs
to
be
protected,
so
we
need
to
keep
them
in.
We
we're
just
seeing
more
violent
crimes.
Is
what
I'm
saying,
because
of
again,
because
of
that
population
increase
the
rate
hasn't
gone
up,
but
the
population's
gone
up.
So
that's
what
I
mean
by
that
people
that
have
maybe
are
on
parole
for
a
violent
crime
and
they
commit
another
violent
crime.
C
Well,
we
have
to
keep
them
in
because
they've
already
been
convicted
on
violent
crime,
given
a
chance
to
live
in
our
community
and
they
committed
another
one.
So
those
are
the
types
of
situations
I'm
talking
about.
It
almost
always
revolves
around
violent
crime
or
a
large
degree
of
recidivism,
but
the
recidivism
will
probably
be
a
lesser
percentage
of
that.
Thank.
G
C
E
C
So
obviously,
we've
had
seen
an
increase
in
people
from
outside
the
state
where
they're
originally
from
they
mostly
reside
here,
but
we
have
had
it
a
lot
because
of
the
influx
of
people
from
out
of
state
that
are
that
are
coming
to
idaho.
We,
I
don't
know
the
statistic,
but
we
have
seen
a
larger,
an
increase
in
in
those
folks
that
are
coming
here.
You
know
here's
what
I
always
say
to
people
that,
if
you
just
boil
it
down
really
great
people
move
to
ada
county.
They
do.
There
are
great
people.
C
They
move
here
for
great
reasons,
but
somebody's
always
got
like
a
shady
nephew
or
a
brother-in-law.
That
kind
of
follows.
You
know,
that's
just
that's
statistics.
You
know,
there's
always
going
to
be
that
one
little
percentage
that
are
the
people
that
we
deal
with,
because
the
people
that
we
commonly
deal
with
over
and
over
are
really
a
small
percentage
of
our
population.
But
I
mean
that's
just
statistics:
that's
what
happens.
E
C
Okay,
most
of
them
are
yes,
so
I'll
move
on
to
our
court
services
bureau.
This
is
where
we,
this
is
a
strange
bureau.
I
won't
call
it
a
mishmash,
but
they
do
a
lot
of
things.
So
we
see
our
alternative
sentencing
and
pre-trial
departments
here
so
alternative
sentencing.
That's
going
to
be
the
sealed
crew,
where
you
see
people
out
picking
up
trash
people
that
do
community
service
people
that
maybe
come
in
and
serve
time
on
weekends.
Those
are
all
an
attempt
to
keep
people
working
and
in
the
community,
but
still
serving
their
sentence.
C
Time
that's
been
imposed
by
a
judge.
Now
the
judge
has
to
agree
to
all
that
the
sheriff's
office
doesn't
decide
that
you're
going
to
go
through
this
program.
The
judge
says
you're
sentenced
on
the
you
know
whatever
crime
this
is,
and
you
have
the
ability
to
do
these
alternative
sentencing
programs
that
the
sheriff's
office
provides.
So
we
do.
We
do
a
really
great
job
of
that
right.
C
We
also
have
what
we
call
what
we
call
the
community
transition
center.
It's
a
newer
program.
It
has
been
open
for
a
year,
but
covid
has
kind
of
kept
us
from
opening
it
fully.
We
have
about
44
people
in
that
program.
It's
kind
of
based
on
your
on
the
old
work
release
program
where
people
can
come
in.
They
have
to
stay
at
the
ctc,
the
community
transition
center
to
stay
there
stay
there
at
night,
go
to
their
jobs
and
then
come
back.
We
do
job
search
for
them.
C
We
provide
them
with
programming
in
the
form
of
you
know,
decision
making
classes
some
substance
abuse
classes
that
we
can
also
help
them
get
their
ged
there
so
again,
another
alternative
to
sitting
in
jail
and
doing
nothing
and
losing
your
job.
We
can
at
least
help
them
help
them
grow
in
a
way
where
maybe
they
don't
ever
come
back
and
that's
kind
of
the
goal
of
that
program.
Let's
give
you
some
skills
so
that
you're
not
in
the
jail
and
we're
not
paying
for
you
to
be
there
and
you're,
not
losing
your
job
all.
G
C
So
we
can
work
with.
We
can
work
work
through
through
different
organizations
to
make
that
happen.
If
there
is
basically
how
it
works
is
there
are
all
kinds
of
different
non-profits
or
government
entities
that
are
on
a
list
to
say:
hey
we'd
like
to
participate
in
your
community
service
program.
So
most
of
the
time,
if
they're
on
that
list-
and
it's
someone-
that's
maybe
english
as
a
second
language
or
those
those
places,
we
can
look
at
and
say,
okay.
C
Well,
this
is
you
know
this
one
meets
the
qualification
for
someone
that
doesn't
speak
english.
I
don't
know
what
those
would
be
there's
a
big
list.
I
don't
know
what
that
would
be,
but
any
non-profit
can
come
and
say:
we'd
really
like
to
be
on
your
list
and
we
can
start
plugging
in
people
that
would
work
for
them
the
best.
So
I
couldn't
tell
you
yes
or
no.
C
So
we
also
have
our
misdemeanor
probation
in
this
bureau
and
right
now
on
misdemeanor
probation.
We
have
about
1
278
people.
Again,
that's
an
alternative
sentencing,
so,
instead
of
them
serving
their
six
months
to
a
year
in
jail
on
misdemeanor
probation,
we
can
supervise
them
outside
the
jail
and
monitor
you
know.
What's
going
on
with
them.
Of
course,
those
are
classified
in
all
different
kinds
of
kinds
of
people,
people
that
really
don't
need
any
supervision
as
long
as
they
don't
commit
a
crime.
They're,
okay
and
people
need
a
high
degree
of
supervision.
C
Maybe
they
have
a
domestic
battery
history
and
they've
committed
another
domestic
battery,
so
different
levels
of
supervision
for
all
types
of
those
people,
but
all
in
total.
You
know
you're
looking
at
about
1300
people
or
more
than
that,
I'm
sorry
2
300,
people
that
are
being
supervised
outside
the
jail,
which
is
a
larger
population
than
we
have
inside
the
jail.
D
C
Great
question
so
misdemeanor
probation
is
run
out
of
the
sheriff's
office.
State
statute
says
that
the
county
commissioners
are
responsible
for
misdemeanor,
probation
and
in
the
past
we
use
they
used
to
they
used
to
contract
that
to
a
private
entity.
In
my
opinion,
it
went
very
badly
because
it's
a
for-profit
company
and
so
years
ago
the
commissioners
said
you
know
what
how
about
we
contract
with
the
sheriff's
office,
who
has
a
better
vested
interest
in
the
people
for
people
being
successful,
and
so
they
they've
done
that
with
us.
C
That's
why
we
run
misdemeanor
probation
in
ada
county.
That's
typical
in
other
counties,
not
all
of
them,
but
that's
typical.
The
state
runs
felony,
probation
and
parole,
so
they
take
care
of
anybody.
That's
been
sentenced
for
a
felony,
whether
they've
gone
to
prison
and
are
paroled
out
or
whether
they
have
just
whether
they're
out
on
probation.
C
C
So
they
don't
have
the
type
of
hiring
standards
that
well
the
hiring
they
they
aren't
able
to
keep
people
as
long
as
other
law
enforcement
agencies,
plus
their
caseloads
are
big.
So
the
more
people
you
have
on
your
caseload,
the
harder
it
is
to
supervise
them.
And
if
you
had
a
lot
smaller
caseloads,
you
can
give
people
individual
supervision
a
lot
better
and
they
provide
a
lot
of
resources
to
people
and
really
try
and
get
people
on
the
right
track.
C
A
really
good
probation
officer
will
tell
you,
I'm
not
out
looking
for
something
wrong
with
this
person,
I'm
I
am
looking
for
the
violations,
but
I'm
looking
to
see
how
we
can
change
their
behavior
to
keep
them
out
of
prison,
but
they
also
have
the
realistic
of
okay.
This
person
just
can't
be
out
here
anymore,
so
really
good
probation
officer,
like
I
said,
meets
in
the
middle
there
with
that
enforcement
and
that
social
work,
but
it's
not
always
easy
to
find
that
perfect
person.
D
Thank
you.
Oh
I
guess
one
more
question
is
like,
but
what
I
just
heard
was:
we've
got
great
people
doing
great
work,
they're
a
little
overloaded.
Their
caseloads
are
huge
if
there
were
more
great
people
to
hire
and
if
there
were
more
ability
to
hire
them,
we'd
be
more
effective
at
you
know,
helping
the
public
citizens
citizens
who
committed
crimes,
kind
of
get
on
the
right
track.
I
guess
my
last
question
is:
did
you
notice
any
trends
in
this
regard
during
cove?
In
other
words,
especially
on
the
felony
probation
side
did?
D
C
Is
yes,
it
became
less
effective
because
again
they
weren't
visiting
people's
people
in
their
homes.
There
was
a
lot
more
work.
You
know
probation
officers
that
were
having
to
work
from
home
instead
of
being
in
the
office
where
they
can
meet
with
probationers
and
again
not
going
to
their
homes,
so
by
no
fault
of
their
own.
It's
it's
less
supervision
for
people
that
not
it's
not
necessarily.
They
need
somebody
to
have
their
thumb
on
them,
but
sometimes
they
need
that
supervision
as
part
of
a
guiding
hand.
C
To
say
this
program
will
help
you
with
that.
Hey
remember
these
behaviors
caused
this
and
they
my
opinion.
They
just
didn't
get
that
during
covet.
So
after
things
started
to
let
up,
we
see
a
lot
of
probation
violations,
parole
violations
because
they're
unsupervised
and
on
their
own
and
some
some
of
these
folks
just
need
help
and
when
they're
on
their
own,
it's
it's
an
issue
for
them,
and
you
know
they
make
mistakes
more
often,
thank
you
so,
inside
this
court
services
bureau
we
also
have
our
civil
division.
C
State
statute
says
that
the
sheriff's
office
is
responsible
for
serving
civil
paperwork
doing
the
evictions.
All
all
things
civil,
so
the
voice,
none
of
the
police
departments-
have
to
do
any
of
the
civil
processes
that
we
do
garnishments
and
things
like
that.
So
we
have
a
whole
crew
of
deputies
and
employees
that
just
do
civil
processes.
C
We
also
do
court
security
for
the
courthouse.
A
lot
of
people
don't
realize
in
years
past
the
sheriff's
office
didn't
do
security
in
the
courthouse,
so
we
had
what's
called
a
court
martial
which
are
which
were
security.
That
is
run
by
the
the
trial
court
administrator
a
few
years
ago.
They
decided,
let's
switch,
that
let's
do
the
sheriff's
office,
doing
the
security
and
we're
still
working
on
keep
getting
that
program
where
it
needs
to
be
because
it's
a
big
it's
a
big
lift
in
in
here.
We
also
have
our
transport
team.
C
A
lot
of
people,
don't
realize
that
monday,
through
friday,
from
eight
to
five
anywhere
in
this
county,
there's
probably
an
inmate
that
is
being
supervised
by
a
deputy
like
like
a
an
inmate
inmate,
not
someone
that
just
needs
a
hand
these
inmates
they
have
some
needs
that
we
can't
meet
inside
the
jail.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
they
get
to
specific
doctor
visits,
eye
appointments,
all
kinds
of
things
that
are
all
over
the
county
where
we
can't
just
let
them
out
of
the
jail
to
go.
So
it
is
kind
of
comical.
C
Sometimes
we
have.
We
always
had
a
lot
of
pictures
of
deputies
dressed
up
in
gowns
and
booties
and-
and
you
know
the
little
thing
on
their
head
they're
all
in
this
gear,
but
they
have
to
go
into
surgery
with
specific
inmates.
So
if
you
have
a
you
know
an
inmate
that
is
a
flight
risk
or
has
a
high
propensity
for
violence,
then
they
have
to
go
into
surgery
with
those
inmates.
C
So
we
have
to
be
very
careful
with
that
type
of
thing,
and
you
know
hip
is
always
an
issue
when,
with
law
enforcement,
so
it's
kind
of
a
specialized
area.
It's
about
27
deputies
on
that
transport
team
they
take
people
to
and
from
court.
They
go
all
over
the
nation
to
pick
up
people
with
warts
and
bring
them
back
to
80
counties
so
that
they
can
start
going
through
their
court
process.
C
C
C
The
sheriffs
in
idaho
are
required
to
run
the
driver's
license
bureau,
so
we
work
with
the
state
to
issue
driver's
licenses
to
cities
to
people
all
over
the
state.
We
also
have
our
victim
services
in
this
in
this
bureau.
So
much
much
like
boise
city.
We
have
our
own
victim
witness
unit
where
we
give
resources
to
victims,
help
them
through
the
court
process
and
answer
all
their
questions
whatever
they
need.
C
Of
course,
we
have
a
fleet
services,
we
have
with
all
those
transports
and
court
security
and
misdemeanor,
probation
and
patrol
it's.
We
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
vehicles,
we
have
to
maintain
and
then
of
course,
finance.
I
was
talking
earlier
about
how
this
is.
Finance
is
a
little
near
and
dear
to
me,
because
a
lot
of
people
also
don't
know
by
state
statute
that
the
sheriff
is
responsible
for
budget
shortfall
personally
responsible
for
budget
shortfalls.
C
So
I
had
to
sign
a
piece
of
paper
that
said
you
understand
this
right,
so
if
I
overspend
by
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
then
matt
clifford
owes
the
county
at
200
000.
So
I
have
a
really
great
finance
team
and
I
love
that
they're
excited
about
budget.
Much
like
your
folks
are
today,
and
I
tell
them
that
they're
really
good
to
me.
C
This
is
a
a
big,
coordinated
effort
on
our
part.
So
when
you
call
9-1-1,
you
talk
to
an
ada
county,
sheriff's
dispatcher.
The
computer
then
says
this
is
a
boise
city
call
and
they
send
it
to
a
boise
police
officer,
really
great
setup,
they're
all
in
the
same
room,
and
it
really
helps
helps
us
coordinate
resources
when
there's
a
mass
emergency,
because
you
don't
have
people
that
are
in
different
buildings
trying
to
talk
to
each
other.
C
You
don't
have
people
that
are
on
different
phone
lines,
trying
to
talk
to
each
other,
they're
all
right
there
and
can
turn
around
from
their
desk
and
help
that
dispatcher
with
the
call.
So
you
know
like
when
we
had
the
mall
shooting
it.
That's
pretty
evident
with
that
happens,
everybody's
on
high
alert
in
the
room,
and
they
have
resources
immediately
available
to
them
and
can
coordinate
every
single
agency
right
from
that
room.
C
Dispatchers
took
about
380
390
000
calls.
Last
year,
154
406
911
calls
and
235
000
non-emergencies.
The
text
to
is
still
something
I
think
people
are
are
yeah,
as
people
are
getting
used
to.
I
foresee
this
year
that
those
numbers
should
go
up
once
we
advertise
that
a
little
bit
better
and
figure
out
how
the
public
can
use
that
a
little
bit
easier.
It's
just
one
of
those
new
programs
that
that
people
aren't
aware
of.
C
Yes,
so
we
have,
the
boise
city
uses
the
same
program.
In
fact,
I
believe
we
piggyback
off
the
language
lying
program
with
boise
city,
so
we
have
a
robust,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
know
how
that
works,
but
a
robust
amount
of
unit
of
people
that
are
citizens
but
they're
qualified
to
translate
with
law
enforcement.
C
They
can
come
out
to
the
scenes
very
often
or
we
can
get
on
like
a
three-way
call
with
them
from
dispatch
and
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
the
call
right
then,
and
then
once
the
dispatchers
get
the
call
they
have
a
file.
That's
that
says
which
deputies
or
officers
can
speak
different
languages,
so
they
can
pull
up
and
say.
G
C
Yep
almost
done
yeah
yeah,
I
wasn't
anticipating
so
many
questions
I
apologize
so
here
it
is.
This
is
the
end,
so
very
quickly.
Just
a
little
thing
on
our
on
our
mission
statement.
We
make
safer
places
for
you
to
live
work
and
play
police
agencies
are
getting
better
at
this,
as
our
other
government
agencies,
but
mission
statements
over
the
years
have
evolved
to
become
a
little
bit
simpler.
C
Many
years
ago
and
a
few
sheriffs
ago,
this
mission
statement
was
put
into
place
and
if
you
look
at
police
agencies
around
the
nation
at
that
time,
especially
their
mission
statements
are
many
sentences
long
and
they
have
all
kinds
of
cool
buzzwords
in
them
and
the
meaning
of
that
mission
statement
really
gets
lost
because
officers
are
just
trying
to
memorize
it
and
regurgitate
it.
I
went
to
a.
C
I
went
to
an
advanced
training
officer
course
a
long
time
ago,
and
it
was
I
was
there
with
all
police
agencies
from
all
over
the
valley
and
the
instructor
said
who
can
say
your
mission
statement
out
loud
right
now
and
I
raised
my
hand
and
no
one
else
raised
their
hand,
and
he
said
what
is
it.
I
said
we
make
safer
places
for
you
to
live,
work
and
play,
and
everybody
looked
at
me
and
said:
that's
that's
now
that
can't
be
your
mission
statement.
C
I
said
yeah,
that's
our
mission
statement
and
the
instructor
was
ecstatic.
He
said,
that's
perfect,
it's
to
the
point.
It's
short,
you
can
put
it
in
a
lot
of
places
and,
more
importantly,
it
really
tells
you
exactly
what
your
agency
is
about
exactly
what
their
mission
is.
Your
those
words
don't
get
lost
in
a
bunch
of
fancy
sentences
that
you
make
people
memorize
and
in
closing
I
really
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
having
me
here
again.
I
appreciate
the
relationship
I
have
with
chief
lee
we've
already.
C
You
know
over
the
last
nine
months
definitely
worked
together
on
a
lot
of
things.
I
feel
very
comfortable.
I
can
pick
up
the
phone
call
him.
He
can
pick
up
a
call,
pick
up
the
phone
call
me,
and
we
have
done
that
to
ask
hey.
I
need
a
resource
that
you
have.
Can
I
use
it?
That's
just
how
we
work
together
here
in
this
whole
valley,
and
I
think,
we're
pretty
blessed
in
that
regard.
We
don't
have
agencies
that
are
fighting
amongst
each
other
and
have
all
this
adversarial.
C
H
C
C
Can
I
just
want
you
to
be
aware
so
that,
if
you,
if
we
need
resources
and
under
an
emergency
situation,
that
you're
not
caught
off
guard
and
say-
oh,
I
don't
okay
tell
me
about
that,
so
we
really
coordinate
any
large
event
to
say
this
is
happening.
I
don't
need
you
to
come
here
right
now,
but
if
I
do,
I
want
you
to
know
about
it.
We'll
share
we'll
share
plans
that
are
based
around
any
kind
of
emergency
plans
based
around
those
those
events,
and
then
really,
you
really
really
see
it
boots.
C
On
the
ground
during
emergency
calls,
it
doesn't
matter,
especially
during
the
night
time
when
there
are
not
a
lot
of
resources
available
to
every
agency.
You
really
triage
calls
and
rely
on
other
agencies
to
help
you.
I
have
been
to
domestic
battery
calls
where
I've
called
dispatch
and
said
there
is
no
one
to
help
come
help
me.
C
A
couple
years
ago,
every
agency,
from
well
close
to
every
agency
in
the
valley,
showed
up
for
that.
We
had
every
agency
here
in
ada,
county
isp
and
canyon
county
that
showed
up
to
that
call
to
help
look
for
the
suspect
and
get
aid
to
the
deputy.
So
those
are,
those
are
big
things.
The
boots
on
the
ground
stuff
is
the
biggest.
C
I
Okay,
that's
great
thanks!
I'm
madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
it's
nice
to
be
here,
especially
in
persons
we've
been
doing
it
virtually.
I
really
prefer
to
be
here
for
this.
I'm
gonna
make
this
really
quick,
because
I
know
you
you're
constrained
for
time.
I've
got
my
timer
on
my
watch
set
for
10
minutes,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
right
through
this
and
we'll
get
this
wrapped
up.
That's
what
I'm
going
to
talk
about!
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
eric
for
reaching
out.
I
We
really
appreciate
that
and
we've
developed
a
great
working
relationship
with
the
staff
at
boise
city
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
it's
very
much
appreciated.
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
assessment
process,
values
for
2022
and
some
legislative
issues
that
we're
facing,
and
I
know
that
are
impacting
boise
city.
I
The
assessments
in
the
fall
is
what
we
do
is
we
do
the
physical
inspection
by
statute.
We
have
to
look
at
one
25
of
all
of
the
parcels,
so
it
takes
five
years
to
every
20.
So
five
years
we
do
100.
We've
done
that
in
the
fall,
because,
where
we
are
right
now,
this
spring
is
we're
analyzing
all
of
the
sales
that
we
collected
last
year,
we
had
almost
12
000
single-family
residential
sales,
we're
looking
at
those
sales
time
adjusting
them
to
january
1st
of
this
year.
I
I
If
I
do
this,
you
can
follow
along
95
000
assessment
notices
are
going
to
be
mailed
out
in
maine.
That's
two
residents
of
boise
city
it'll
be
about
210
000
county
wide
and
then
at
the
in
july,
we'll
have
the
so
we're
going
to
be
doing
the
assessment,
sending
assessment
notices.
Then,
in
july
we
have
the
appeals.
Last
year
we
had
a
26
increase
in
values.
I
We
had
the
least
number
of
appeals.
In
two
decades.
We
didn't
have
any
idea
how
many
appeals
we
would
have
with
large
increase.
We
were
just
really
bracing
ourselves,
but
a
very
small
number.
I
don't
know
if
we'll
get
off
that
easy
this
year,
but
people
really
have
a
feel
of
what's
going
on,
so
I
want
to
get
into
to
numbers.
That
would
be
useful
for
your
budget.
First
of
all,
I
need
to
just
make
very
clear.
These
are
extremely
preliminary
numbers.
I
Usually,
we
don't
give
these
out,
probably
until
mid
april,
so
we're
waiting
we're
way
ahead
and
there's
going
to
be
some
adjustments.
My
guess
would
be
that
this,
the
new
construction
role
could
possibly
be
a
little
bit
higher
than
what
we
see
here,
but
residential.
That
is
right.
Now
it's
off
two
hundred
and
it's
210
million
it's
off
a
little
bit.
I
But
again,
I
think
that
when
we're
finished
with
doing
our
analysis
that
could
be
higher
than
that,
I
just
want
to
point
out
new
subdivisions
and
change
of
use
that
probably
is
going
to
be
zero
this
year,
there's
some
legislation
that
was
passed
this
year
sitting
at
the
governor's
desk,
and
that
is
change
of
that
subdivision
change
of
use.
That's
mainly
change
of
use
in
land.
So
if
you
had
a
piece
of
residential
property,
that
became
commercial,
that
difference
in
value
would
go
to
the
new
construction
role.
I
This
piece
of
legislation
for
the
governor
right
now
change
of
use
in
land
does
not
go
towards
the
new
construction
rule,
so
that
probably
will
come
off,
but
it's
33
million
out
of
500
million.
So
it
shouldn't
be
really
that
that
significant,
the
potential
taxable
value-
that's
the
total
market
value,
it's
about
50,
50
billion,
take
out
the
homeowner's
exemption,
7
billion
other
exemptions,
just
about
almost
a
billion
dollars
in
exemptions,
are
still
out
there
by
statute.
I
Exemptions
have
to
be
submitted
to
the
commissioners
by
april
15th
and
then
given
to
the
assessor
by
about
may
15th.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
exemptions
that
need
to
be
used
to
be
processed,
and
I'm
going
to
show
you
where
this
really
becomes
important
in
in
just
a
moment
here:
operating
property,
that's
railroad,
triax
power
lines,
whatever
gives
you
a
potential
taxable
value
about
42
billion
dollars,
and
by
way
of
comparison
last
year
you
had
about
a
36
billion
dollar
potential,
taxable
value.
I
F
I
F
I
The
commissioners
will
approve
right
and
the
personal
property
exemption.
That's
reimbursed
that
first
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
I
think,
there's
a
reimbursement.
The
personal
property's
been
increased
and
the
legislature
reimburses
that.
But
this
is
strictly
what
the
commissioner
is
going
to
approve.
F
And-
and
I
asked
that
question
because
I
think
you
know
there
there's
and
there
seems
to
be
a
presumption
that
the
homeowner's
exemption
isn't
is
maybe
big
enough.
Look
how
big
it
is
compared
to
all
the
other
exemptions,
but
we
don't
calculate
the
legislated
exemptions
of
personal
property
tax
and
inventory
tax
over
the
years
that
have
impacted
commercial
property
so
highly
so
anyway.
Just
yeah.
I
Those
are
very,
very
good
points,
so
42
billion
potential
taxable
value
urban
renewal.
You
take
a
look
at
the
numbers
there.
I
just
want
to
to
direct
your
attention
to
the
myrtle
river.
Warm
springs
amended.
That's
192
percent
increase,
that's
where
the
exemptions
are
showing
up
those
outstanding
assumptions.
There's
the
saint
luke's
exemptions
have
not
we've
not
seen
those
yet
so
when
those
are
taken
into
consideration,
that's
going
to
go
down
and
be
looking
more
like,
like
the
rest
of
them
there
all
right.
I
Let
us
we'll
go
to
to
legislation
just
about
finished
here
in
2020,
the
legislature
passed
a
bill
that
affected
the
application
date
of
the
homestead
exemption.
It
was
april
15th
in
2020.
They
passed
it
effective
2021
and
it
extended
that
from
april
15th
to
the
end
of
the
year-
and
you
can
see
here-
there's
a
loss
of
taxable
value
to
the
districts
and
for
boise
city,
because
we
now
have
to
prorate
the
homestead
exemption.
So
somebody
actually
it's.
I
I
I've
talked
to
legislators,
one
of
the
legislators
who
was
involved
in
this
bill.
We
thought
was
going
to
bring
something
forward.
That
would
say
it's
not
for
the
whole
year,
it's
to
be
prorated,
and
that
didn't
happen.
So
we
might
be
looking
at
something
similar
to
this,
but
I
just
want
to
point
out
here.
I
This
is
the
the
fact
that
there's
a
loss
of
value
when
they
apply
for
this
boise
city
lost
91
million
dollars
in
taxable
value
about
420
thousand
dollars
and
lost
taxes,
because
if
this,
if
it
becomes
pro-rated-
which
is
it's
it's
not
going
to
this
year-
it's
it's
probably
pretty
close
to
that
again.
So
that
was
pretty
significant.
I
I
think
that's
then
going
to
house
whips
house
bill
389.
I
Your
property
could
not
exceed
125
percent
of
the
median
value
if
it
was
over
that
your
only
alternative
for
tax
relief
would
have
been
a
property
tax
deferral,
and
that
is
you
in
essence,
you
any
taxes
come
out
of
the
va,
become
a
lien
against
your
home
and
their
crew
until
the
property
is
sold,
so
that
was
125.
Immediate
value.
117
people
in
boise
city
were
scheduled
to
come
off.
That
was
going
to
go
into
effect
this
year,
but
the
legislature
passed
a
bill
house
bill
41
this
year
effective
this
year.
I
And
then
I
just
want
to
just
note,
colin
patterson
came
to
our
office
several
weeks
ago
to
talk
about
how
we
can
partner
increase
participation
of
the
circuit
breaker
program.
We've
always
just
figured
it's
about.
70
percent
of
the
eligible
people
are
actually
taking
advantage
of
that
and
we're
really
looking
forward
to
next
year's
a
little
bit
late
for
this,
but
working
with
boise
city,
somehow
targeting
those
that
extra
30
to
try
to
get
those
people
enrolled
in
the
program.
I
It's
just
it's
a
marvelous
program
and
then
I'm
just
going
to
wrap
up
house
bill
673.
I
mentioned
that
it's
a
change
in
land
use
is
no
longer
recognized
in
the
new
construction
role,
so
we've
talked
about
assessment
process,
valuations
and
legislative
issues
that
might
affect
you,
and
I
would
certainly
answer
any
questions
that
we've
got
in
the
remaining
three
minutes.
H
I
had
a
question
about
assessments
and
the
residential
versus
commercial.
You
kind
of
touched
a
little
bit
on
what
the
factors
are
that
go
into
those
assessments,
but
can
you
dive
a
little
bit
deeper
on
what
factors
go
into
residential
that
might
be
different
than
the
assessment
factors
in
commercial?
I
I
H
I
I've
had
a
legislator
disagree
with
me
on
this,
it's
very
difficult
to
come
by
and
that's
why
it's
difficult
to
to
assess
commercial
property.
I
had
a
legislator
say
bob.
This
information
is
freely
available,
call
any
property
owner
calling
the
appraiser
and
they'll
give
it
to
you.
I
went
back
to
my
appraisal
staff
and
I
said:
is
this
right?
Absolutely
not
there.
It's
not
forthcoming,
even
at
appeals.
Sometimes
they
won't.
They
won't
present
that
so.
I
A
So
I've
just
got
a
follow-up
question
on
that
I
mean
this
was
this
came
up
as
an
issue
last
year,
a
concern
of
many
people
and
not
just
boise
city
right
now,
but
other
cities
in
the
valley,
with
the
numbers
that
you
showed
us.
The
increase
in
home
value.
Excuse
me
home
assessments
versus
commercial
assessments.
What
are
your
solutions?
What
are
you
seeking
in
terms
of
legislative
aid,
to
create
a
more
equitable
process
to
help
our
residents
who
are
suffering
under
these
huge
increases
of
assessment?
A
I
I
I
H
So
let
me
put
a
little
bit
finer
point
on
that.
So
what
kind
of
the
outcome
of
this
conversation
has
been?
The
legislature
requires
disclosure
for
the
market
on
residential
does
not
require
disclosure
for
the
market
on
commercial,
and
so
we
don't
really
know
how
equitable
it
really
is,
and
it's
seeming
like
it's
becoming
less
equitable,
yet
they're
not
taking
action
to
correct
the
inequity.
I
G
G
I
A
That's
next
for
our
kids
and
I'm
really
impressed
with
staff's
commitment
to
meeting
these
goals
to
serving
our
existing
residents
and
not
sacrificing
the
experience
that
we
have
here
for
those
that
are
coming
because
they
like
what
we
have.
But
at
the
same
time
we
need
to
explore
some
relief,
it's
frustrating
and
concerning
to
see
from
the
assessor
that
there
is.
You
know
it's
easy
for
him
to
increase
assessments
on
residential
property
and
not
on
commercial
property,
and
we've
been
to
countless
presentations
where
we're
hearing
that
there's
so
much
money.
A
There's
so
much
money,
everybody's
buying
selling
trading,
commercial
property
that
you
can't.
They
can't
find
enough.
There's
so
much
money,
and
yet
that's
not
reflected
in
the
way
he's
approaching
assessments
and
that
hurts
our
residents,
and
so
because
of
all
of
this,
I
have
asked
staff
as
they
move
into
the
budget,
to
look
at
the
long
term
as
implications
as
well
as
current
savings
to
residents.
If
we
take
less
than
three
percent
this
year
and
then
also
with
the
passage
of
the
circuit
breaker
program,
something
I
had
said
I
wanted
for
years.
A
I
wanted
to
see
as
a
tool
a
city
can
use
we'll
look
to
amuse
that
to
provide
additional
relief
to
those
who
are
currently
qualified
for
the
circuit
breaker
program
and
but
then
also
seek
to
grow
the
number
of
folks
that
are
taking
advantage
of
one
of
the
very
few
opportunities
that
they
have
for
property
tax
relief,
and
so
with
that
we'll
kick
it
off.
Please
just
kind
of
engage
with
questions
things
that
you
want
us
to
be
thinking
about
things.
You've
heard
from
your
constituents
we'll
take
it
from
there
thanks.
J
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
mayor
members
of
the
council.
So,
as
the
mayor
mentioned
this
in
in
in
some
regard,
we'll
be
kicked
off
to
the
budget
process,
we
will
do
you
know
some
overview
of
where
we
were
or
where
we
are
in
the
current
fiscal
year
is
context
setting
and
then
we'll
go
over
some
themes.
So
from
a
discussion
agenda
point
you
know
we'll
speak
about
what
are
we
hoping
to
accomplish
through
the
annual
budget
process,
and
that
really
holds
true
through
through
every
year?
J
J
J
So
what
we
seek
to
to
do
is
to
ensure
that
we
have
updated
all
of
our
costs
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
to
be
reflective
of
the
anticipated
or
the
anticipated
cost.
So
we
ensure
that
there's
sufficient
funds
available
to
support
planned
and
ongoing
costs
we
seek
to
you
know,
adjust
for
the
revised
costs
of
ongoing
services,
update
all
of
our
revenue
assumptions
and
really
seek
to
resolve
any
differences
between
planned
revenues
and
anticipated
expenses.
J
J
It's
supported
via
property
tax
sales
tax
and
reflects
general
governmental
services,
so
you
can
think
police
fire
parks
and
library.
The
fiscal
year
22
budget
for
the
general
fund
was
approximately
276
million
and
that
made
up
just
over
40
percent
of
the
city-wide
budget
capital
funds.
We
have
a
handful
of
dedicated
capital
funds
that
account
for
capital
projects
associated
with
general
government
functions,
so
you
can
think
about.
J
That's
about
five
percent
of
our
budget
and
approximately
33
million
dollars.
Then
we
have
enterprise
funds.
So
when
you
think
about
those,
we
can
think
about
our
airport,
geothermal
water,
renewal,
solid
waste
funds-
those
are
those
account
for
both
operating
and
capital
needs,
approximately
44
of
our
budget
and
just
under
300
million
dollars.
J
F
J
I
think
the
council
member
clay,
I
think,
the
primary
reason
that
went
down
as
part
of
the
fiscal
year
22
budget
was
an
approach
that
we
took
in
developing
the
current
year
budget
to
dedicate
any
unallocated
resources
from
the
prior
year
as
part
of
the
budget
process.
So
you
can
see
that
carry
forward
number
of
six
percent.
J
F
F
Okay,
thank
you.
That's
I
mean
you
know.
Rule
of
thumb
was
always
if
you
could
keep
it
below
62
or
63
percent.
You
were
doing
pretty
good
as
a
as
a
you
know,
percentage
of
the
whole,
and
so
this
actually
makes
me
feel
better
than
I
felt
for
a
while,
because
we
were
up
at
66
67
percent,
which
seemed
like
too
heavily
dependent
on
property
tax.
J
J
Just
an
overview
of
our
departmental
revenue,
because
this
is
one
that
folks
oftentimes
ask
about.
You
can
see
that
over
half
of
our
departmental
revenue
is
related
to
public
safety
contracts,
so
we
provide
both
police
and
fire
services
on
behalf
of
other
agencies
and
that's
you
know
approximately
15
million
dollars,
and
then
you
see
a
lot
of
recreational
programs
on
the
left-hand
side
within
our
parks
department.
So
you'll
see
idaho
ice
world
golf
aquatics,
making
up
a
good
chunk
of
those
other
programs.
J
Approximately
two-thirds
of
that,
in
addition
to
that,
you
can
see
mno,
so
our
non-personnel
type
expenses
at
about
16
percent
transfers
to
a
debt
service
fund
or
other
funds,
and
then
you
can
see
vrt
at
about
3.1
percent.
I'll
note
that
the
the
debt
service
transfer
for
the
current
year
is
probably
an
outsized
number
compared
to
what
you
might
see
as
part
of
this
upcoming
year,
because
we
we
proactively
allocated
one-time
funding
as
part
of
the
the
22
budget
to
retire.
Some
debt.
F
J
J
Do
I
do
right
here?
Thank
you,
so
so,
if
you,
if
you
look
at
it
on
a
department
basis,
you
know
just
over
half
of
the
city-wide
budget
is
dedicated
towards
public
safety.
You
can
see
parks
and
recreation
at
14,
and
you
know
in
other
other
pipe
slivers.
You
can
see
planning
and
development.
Public
works,
some
of
our
other
forward-facing
departments.
Contractual
services
is
in
there
that
is
primarily
the
city's
contribution
towards
public
transportation
and
vrt
on
a
city-wide
basis.
It
makes
about
three
percent
of
the
overall
budget.
J
So
as
we
started
to
pull
together
the
preliminary
forecast
and
there's
still
a
lot
more
work
to
do,
you
know
we
anticipate
that
the
net
position
of
the
general
fund
will
be
positive
going
into
fiscal
year.
23.-
and
there
are,
you-
know,
a
handful
of
inputs
that
contribute
to
that
a
portion
of
it
attributable
to
one-time
funds
resulting
from
vacancies.
J
So
I
mentioned
that
you
know
we
we,
as
part
of
this
current
fiscal
year
budget,
we
proactively
programmed
prior
year
expenses
and
we're
going
to
aim
to
do
the
same
thing
this
year,
hopefully
to
minimize
the
amount
of
unallocated
resources
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
proactively
allocate
as
part
of
the
budget
process.
We
are
seeing,
you
know,
quite
a
quite
a
high
level
of
vacancies
which
is
contributing
to
that
and
with
that
high
level
of
vacancies,
there
are
other
resulting
savings
with
less
people
available
to
actually
do
the
work.
J
J
I'll
note
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
differences:
both
development
fees
and
sales
tax
are
a
bit
higher
than
than
we
had
forecasted
last
year.
At
this
time
development
fees,
we
did
increase
our
revenue
assumptions
as
part
of
the
22
budget,
and
we
were,
we
had
seen
a
higher
level
of
activity
than
even
we
would
have
anticipated
in
the
prior
fiscal
year
and
into
this
fiscal
year.
So
we're
trying
to
program
that
as
a
reminder,
those
fees
are
to
offset
costs
associated
with
reviewing
development
so
on
and
so
forth.
J
In
our
planning
and
development
services
and
public
works
departments,
sales
tax.
This
is
going
to
be
a
difficult
one,
probably
for
the
next
little
bit
here
to
to
project.
From
a
forecast
standpoint,
we've
largely
assumed
one
percent
growth
because
of
some
legislation
that
was
approved
in
calendar
year
2020
at
the
statewide
level.
That
legislation
was
intended
to
equalize
sales
tax
receipts
across
all
agencies
or
across
all
cities
within
the
state
and
what
they
were
attempting
to
do
was
say
states
or
excuse
me.
J
Cities
that
were
below
a
certain
per
capita
level
distribution
would
be
would
see
a
cap
of
one
percent,
while
the
other
cities
caught
up
the
city
of
boise
is
in
a
position
where
we're
close
to
that
per
capita
level
and
we're
probably
going
to
fluctuate
between
one
percent
growth
and
catching
the
full
growth.
So
we
anticipate
that
you
know
for
the
this
next
couple
of
quarters.
J
I
know
mike
spoke
at
the
quarterly
report
discussion
a
couple
months
ago
that
we
we
had
received
full
growth
for
the
first
quarter,
that
effectively
resets
our
baseline,
so
our
sales
tax
is
is
a
little
bit
higher
than
we
had
in
prior
prior
forecast
periods
and
then
property
tax.
You
know
we
have
some
assumptions
here
which
I'll
which
I'll
go
through.
F
J
J
It
certainly
we
we
can
look
at
that.
You
know.
I
know
that
at
the
at
the
legis
at
the
state
legislative
level,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
over
the
last.
You
know
two
three
years
in
terms
of
utilizing
that
money
for
certain
state
priorities
with
legislation
that
was
approved
this
year.
It
may
be
more
likely
that
that
funding
does
come
to
the
city,
so
we
can
certainly
look
at
that.
J
J
J
J
Decisions
around
property
tax
growth-
kovit
is
still
you
know
something
to
to
be
to
be
thoughtful
about.
You
know,
we've
seen
it
come
in
waves
and
you
know
to
the
degree
that
it
should
emerge
again.
You
know
in
terms
of
closures
or
reduced
activity
levels
that
could
impact
our
our
revenue
collections,
labor
costs
and
staff
growth
and
the
pace
at
which
we,
which
we
grow
both
of
those
items
and
then
inflation,
which
also
which
I'll
speak
about
a
little
bit
more.
J
E
J
So
some
some
themes,
as
you
know,
we're
working
to
you
know
develop
recommendations
as
part
of
the
23
budget
process,
obviously
property
tax.
So
the
mayor
mentioned
the
circuit,
breaker
rebate,
rebate,
program,
which
we'll
be
looking
at
also
be
evaluating
options
around
the
annual
three
percent
base
growth.
J
J
Looking
at
working
to
stabilize
the
workforce
to
ensure
high
quality
service
delivery
for
the
community
and
then
response
to
growth
and
inflation,
so
the
next
handful
of
slides
are
specific
to
property
tax.
As
we
we
talked
about,
you
know
they
they're
generally
around
60
66
of
of
revenues.
As
part
of
this
year,
61
it's
been
a
relatively
stable
revenue
source.
J
The
first
is
a
base
increase
of
up
to
three
percent
and
when
we
think
about
that
base
increase,
it's
generally
used
to
support
cost
increases
associated
with
our
existing
services
and
then
funding
that
that
is
made
available
in
property
tax
associated
with
new
construction
and
annexation,
as
well
as
retiring
urban
renewal
districts
and
generally
that
funding
is
dedicated
to
support
new
costs.
So
you
can
think
about
new
police
fire
parks,
maintenance
associated
costs.
J
J
If
we
go
back
to
fiscal
year
21,
when
the
city
council
authorized
a
zero
percent
increase
to
property
tax,
we
claim
that
that
amount
is
foregone.
That
was
4.8
million
dollars.
That
is,
you
know,
available
at
some
future
point
in
time.
Should
the
council
ever
decide
to
do
that?
I
have
not
currently
assumed
any
of
that
in
fiscal
year.
23
projections,
nor
in
any
outer
years
of
the
forecast.
J
J
There
was
legislation
that
expanded
the
eligibility
of
the
circuit
breaker
program,
so
the
assessor
was
talking
a
little
bit
about
last
year's
legislation
that
capped
eligibility
at
I
want
to
say
it
was
125
percent
of
median
value
legislation
that
was
approved.
This
go
round
brought
it
up
to
150
of
the
median
value
or
three
hundred
thousand,
whichever
is
greater
so
that
will
restore
eligibility
to
some
of
those
that
lost.
F
J
J
The
the
county
assessor
spoke
a
little
bit
about
this,
and
I'm
sorry
that
it's
so
small
on
the
slide,
but
it's
intended
to
show
the
the
burden
of
property
tax
by
the
two
sectors,
residential
and
commercial,
and
you
can
see
that
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
slide,
which
was,
I
can't
see
it
from
here.
I
think
it
was
2001..
J
These
are
just
some
statistics
we
like
to
do
analysis
looking
at
the
the
average
home
and
you
can
see
in
fiscal
year
2016
the
average
home
the
assessed
value
in
the
city
of
boise
was
214
000.
in
fiscal
year
22
it
was
440
000.
You
can
see
on
the
the
next
column
the
assessed
growth
on
that
average
home
has
been
increasing.
You
know
pretty
rapidly
up
to
25
last
year
and
we
would
expect
to
see
that
number
again
increase.
J
A
J
This
is
this
chart
basically
shows
that
same
averaged
priced
home,
and
you
can
see
that
in
2016,
approximately
58
of
that
home
was
subject
to
property
tax
because
of
the
homeowner's
exemption
no
longer
being
indexed
and
the
the
extreme
rate
of
growth
on
residential
properties.
You
can
see
that
you
know
as
part
of
this
budget
cycle
this
past
budget
cycle
we
paid
72
of
that
average
home
as
being
subject
to
property
tax.
So
increasingly,
more
and
more
of
the
average
home
is
subject
to
property
tax.
F
Eric
madame
question
on
that,
if,
if
there
was
a
movement
to
bring
forward
some
legislation
that
actually
did
work
on
the
homeowner's
exemption,
my
memory
of
the
legislation
that
that
got
the
farthest
two
years
ago
is
that
it
had
a
a
five-year
implementation
scale
so
that
it
doesn't
just
flip
one.
You
know
right
now:
commercial
properties
paying
x,
you
do
the
homeowner's
exemption.
You
bring
the
residential
property
down
to
y
and
all
of
a
sudden,
the
commercial
property
in
one
year
is
paying
a
lot
more.
F
J
We
have
not
run
numbers
specifically
on.
You
know
a
ramp
up
period
to
get
there
if
it
was
to
be
indexed
at
the
current
level.
You
know
so
taking
the
125,
000
and
then
catch
up
year
over
year
growth.
It
probably
would
be
less
less
of
an
impact,
but
it
would
also
not
correct
for
the
years
that
there
wasn't
an
increase.
J
And
this
slide,
which
which
I
know
everybody
at
this
table,
has
seen
before,
but
it's
one
that
we
like
to
show
basically
shows
the
impact
of
the
city
taking
the
three
percent
or
not
taking
the
three
percent
and
there's
a
lot
on
the
slide.
But
you
can
see
fiscal
year
21
the
average
asset
the
average
priced
home
was
assessed
at
351
thousand
dollars
in
the
city
of
boise
in
fiscal
year
22
it
was
440
000
after
you
subtract
the
homeowner's
exemption
on
line
3.
J
J
22
we
looked
at
if
the
city
did
not
take
the
three
percent
increase
and
the
increase
on
that
home
would
have
still
been
292
dollars,
which
makes
the
point
that
mayor
you
were
just
making
on
a
couple
of
slides
ago
that
even
with
a
zero
percent
increase,
you
would
still
see
an
increase
on
on
the
average
home.
In
this
instance
for
fiscal
year
22,
it
was
about
a
42
impact
from
taking
the
three
percent.
J
A
We
want
to
provide
help
and
relief
to
our
residents,
and
I
think
this
anything
that
we
can
do
we
ought
to
be
looking
at.
But
if,
if
we
were,
if
residents
are
to
get
meaningful
relief,
is
it
that
we
ought
to
be
asking
the
assessor
to
freeze
residential
values
to
come
up
with
a
solution
on
commercial
values?
J
J
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilmember
sanchez.
There
are
certainly
requirements
that
are
that
are
placed
upon
the
assessors
within
the
state
for
degrees
of
accuracy.
So
there
is
there
is
they
are
bound
to
to
be
within.
I
want
to
say
a
10
degree
of
accuracy
on
residential
properties
and
there
are
similar
requirements
on
commercial,
so
they
work
with
the
tools
that
they
that
they
have,
but
they
they
are
bound
by
state
legislation
as
well
to
maintain
accuracy.
So
you
know
absent
some
other
legislation.
J
D
Mayor,
I
I
maybe
I
should
have
made
this
comment
a
little
bit
ago,
but
you
know
the
assessor's
job
is
to
as
closely
and
accurately
as
possible,
assess
value
and
tax
residential
properties
consistent
with
their
actual
value
in
the
market,
and
his
job
is
to
as
closely
as
possible
assess
value
and
tax
commercial
properties
as
close
as
possible
to
their
market
value,
and
the
commercial
world
is
not
being
forthcoming
with
the
documents
that
show
the
actual
value.
That's
proof
that
he's
getting
it
wrong.
A
A
Can
residents
make
a
complaint
that
the
assessment
on
a
commercial
property
isn't
accurate
in
the
same
way
that
residents
can
show
up
to
contest
an
assessment
on
their
own
property?
I
don't
I
don't
understand
this
piece
or
if
the
assessor
were
willing
to
respond
to
what
we're
seeing
in
this
market
and
guess
that
if
residential
is
going
up
30,
then
surely
commercial
is
too.
A
Somebody
on
the
commercial
side
would
either
say
but
say
you're
not
right
on
that.
If
that
was
indeed
the
case,
and
unless
somebody
contested
it,
it
would
stand
so.
I
really
we've
got
to
figure
out
how,
if
the
legislature
is
serious
about
property,
tax
relief
and
folks
of
the
county,
in
particular,
that
have
the
power
to
impact
assessments,
which
is
impacting
affordability
for
our
residents,
are
serious
about
property.
G
Mayor,
I
just
want
to
ask
you
a
question,
or
just
just
comment
on
something
that
the
assessor
said
where
he
said
that
they
didn't
get
as
many
appeals
as
they
normally
would,
and
I
wonder
if
that's
people
have
just
lost
faith
in
in
the
process.
I
don't
see
it
as
that
anybody
satisfied
with
their
assessment.
I
I
see
it
as
people
have
just
lost
faith
and
given
up
that's
just
a
comment,
I
wanted
to
make.
D
Madam
mayor,
one
more
quick
comment
to
add
a
little
bit
to
what
the
mayor
said,
because
I
really
agree.
You
know
this
isn't
about
sticking
it
to
businesses
and
it's
not
about
sticking
it
to
commercial
property.
The
reason
that
we're
talking
about
this
is
because
every
dollar
that
a
commercial
property
owner
avoids
in
tax
that
they
should
pay
based
on
the
actual
value
of
their
property,
is
a
dollar
that
homeowners
have
to
pay
instead
and
so
in
an
actual
real
nuts
and
bolts
way.
If
this
dynamic
is
happening,
homeowners
are
paying
taxes
for
businesses.
D
That's
the
problem,
and
it's
just
about
fairness.
It's
it's
it's
about!
Who
should
be
paying
the
taxes
on
the
commercial
property,
because
every
time
the
commercial
properties
avoid
it,
it
gets
picked
up
by
the
homeowners
instead,
and
so
that's
the
dynamic
it's
not
about
harming
businesses
or
taxing
businesses
or
being
inhospitable
in
that
way.
It's
about
fairness
for
everybody.
H
H
Instead,
any
of
the
real
solutions
are
jettisoned
by
lobbyists
who
are
representing
business,
and
you
know
back
to
council
member
of
agents
point
it's
not
about
sticking
it
to
business.
You
know,
businesses
are
the
they're
the
backbone
of
our
economy,
they're.
The
way
that
we
raise
and
support
our
families
they're
the
way
that
we
contribute
to
society,
but
also
they
should
be
paying
their
fair
share
for
city
service
for
police
and
fire
that
also
serve
commercial
properties,
and
that's
just
not
being
done
right
now.
H
I
think
that
if
residents
can
really
reach
out
to
their
legislators
around
the
state
and
say
hey,
this
is
my
understanding
of
what's
going
on.
It
could
help
we'll
certainly
keep
fighting
year
over
year.
It's
for
actual
property
tax
relief
for
residents,
and
I
have
a
question
in
addition
to
my
soapbox
comments.
Have
you
eric
run,
so
you
have
the
outlay
for
homeowners
yeah?
Have
you
run
that
for
commercial
properties
as
well?
Do
you
have
a
similar
slide
that
would
show
the
impact
of
the
15
increase
in
commercial
properties.
J
Councilmember,
that
is
a
a
difficult
one.
We've
thought
about
how
to
do
that.
There
isn't
necessarily
an
average,
an
average
price
commercial
property
for
us
to
do
that
with.
But
what
I
can
say
is
that
we
have
looked
at
different
commercial
properties
and
try
to
you
know
track
what
what
is
happening
with
them
and
oftentimes.
We
see
actual
year-over-year
reductions,
which
is
kind
of
the
way
that
the
the
the
levy
system
works.
If
you
see
an
extreme
increase
on
on
one,
so
I
was
going
to
go
to
this
slide.
J
J
The
difference
between
that
three
percent
and
the
30
percent
is
being
born
by
somebody,
and
you
know
anecdotally,
as
we
look
at
different
commercial
properties,
we're
seeing
actual
reductions,
even
if
their
value
is
increasing.
You
know
5
10
15
per
year
in
relation
to
the
residential
properties.
It
it
actually
comes
out
to
a
reduction.
H
H
We
all
know
that
residential
property
values
are
going
up
like
I
look
at
houses
around
me
that
are
selling
and
I'm
astounded
at
how
much
they're
selling
for,
and
so
I
look
at
those
properties,
and
I
look
at
my
house
and
I'm
like
holy
smokes.
You
know
my
house
is
probably
worth
a
lot
of
money
compared
to
when
I
bought
it,
and
so
I
don't
really
think
it's
well
we're
really
happy
with
this
assessment.
This
seems
like
all
hunky-dory,
it's
just
more
like
being
resigned
to
the
fact
that
oh
this
is.
This
is
my
assessment.
H
F
Thank
you.
So
a
couple
of
thoughts
and
and
maybe
a
a
proposal-
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
right
word
for
it,
but
first
of
all
the
thoughts
many
of
us
know
what's
happening
today
with
commercial
property
versus
residential
property.
We
know
that
the
homeowner's
exemption
fix
would
be
part
of
a
solution.
F
Take
a
warehouse
as
an
example.
The
building
itself
is,
frankly,
not
very
valuable,
but
the
amount
of
business
being
done
out
of
that
warehouse
may
be
an
awful
lot.
You
know
much
more
than
the
value
of
the
building,
so
that
got
exempted
and
then
personal
property
in
the
case
of
an
office
building
the
computers,
the
printers.
F
All
of
that
again
begins
to
represent
the
value
of
the
business
being
done
out
that,
and
so,
as
we
talk
about
the
homeowners
exemption,
I
think
it's
it's
fair
to
talk
about
again
a
fairness
issue,
equalizing
homeowners
and
and
residential
property
with
the
exemptions
that
already
exist
for
commercial
property.
So
we
have
the
valuation
problem
on
commercial
property,
but
we
also
have
the
fact
that
over
time,
they've
been
exempted
from
much
of
what
they
used
to
pay
in
in
property
tax,
and
so
it's
only
fair
at
this
point
to
increase
the
exemption
for
residential
property.
F
So
I
just
say
that,
because
I
think
part
of
what
I'd
like
to
see,
I
think
we're
at
a
point.
This
is
an
election
year.
It's
going
to
be,
hopefully
a
point
of
conversation
among
many
that
we
could
band
together
with
other
cities.
I
know
that
the
association
of
idaho
cities
potentially
could
be
the
avenue
for
this,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
they're
the
effective
avenue
because
they
don't
really
represent
the
residents
in
our
cities,
and
I
think
we
have
a
much
closer
tie
to
that.
F
They
represent
sort
of
the
business
part
of
how
cities
operate.
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
work
with
other
cities
individually
and
then
collectively
both
to
disseminate
information
and
make
sure
that
residents
around
the
state
as
they
make
their
choices?
This
november
understand
the
implications
of
what
they're
hearing
from
the
various
candidates.
F
F
G
Thank
you,
you
know
like
I
brought
up
when
the
assessor
was
here,
I'm
wondering
you
know
as
as
the
way
we
represent
our
our
city
as
council
members
is
changing.
Now
that
we're
going
to
be
embracing
or
we're
having
districts,
I'm
wondering
how
that
will
figure
into
the
way
we
we
look
at
our
budget
and
and
the
way
our
citizens
look
at
our
budget.
I
mean
having
been
here
for
years.
G
By
district,
because
I
feel
it's
been
early
in
this
new
process,
but
I
already
feel
a
tone
change
with
constituents
in
district
3..
There
is
a
bit
more
scrutiny
than
I
experienced
prior
to
the
district
change
and
I'm
wondering
if
that's
going
to
change
and
they
may
be
asking
for
information
based
on
district.
J
J
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Councilmember
sanchez,
I
can
speak,
you
know
from
a
budget
development
standpoint.
We
work
to
develop
a
budget
for
the
entire
city
and
you
know
ensure
equity
in
certain
areas.
You
know
you
can
think
about
the
discussion.
We
had
recently
around
parks
where
we
have
park
planning
areas
and
we,
you
know,
seek
to
ensure
that
you
know
the
parks
are
built.
You
know
across
across
the
city.
It
may
be
something
for
for
future
councils
to
think
about.
J
You
know
if
there
was
to
be
any
portions
of
allocations
that
would
be
looked
at,
but
I
can
I
can
say
from
a
budget
development
standpoint.
So
many
of
the
costs
are
central
across
the
organization.
You
know
you
can
think
about
public
safety
services
or
internal
support
services
that
really
service
the
entire
community.
A
I
think
I'll
jump
in
here
some
since
I
represent
the
entire
city.
You
know,
I
think
I
I
doubt
that
constituents
are
asking.
You
know
how
much
of
our
budget
is
going
into
legal
services
that
address
our
district
or
you
know
how
much
of
the
clerk's
office
is
our
district
funding.
I
think
what
they're
probably
most
interested
in
is
our
budgets
and
parks
and
access
to
the
zoo
and
different
facilities,
as
well
as
public
safety
and
as
a
city.
A
We
have
a
long
history
and
tradition
of
looking
at
that
very
analytically
and
making
sure
that
we're
investing
and
across
the
city
and
with
new
tools,
like
our
pathways
plan,
we'll
get
a
disproportionate
amount
of
investment
in
you
know
the
neighborhoods
that
are
beyond
the
the
center
city
neighborhoods
and
into
those
districts.
Our
parks
analysis
that
has
investments
in
the
next
several
years
laid
out
are
throughout
the
city,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
as
we
seek
to
ensure
that
our
residents
around
the
city
continue
to
have
them
the
support.
A
The
access
to
opportunity
that
the
programming
that
we
value
here
and
that
we're
not
re
reducing.
We
do
everything
we
can
to
prevent
the
corrosion
of
those
services
in
light
of
the
impacts
of
property
tax
legislation
and,
at
the
same
time
like
be
clear
with
the
public
that
there's
so
much
more
than
just
the
green
up
of
a
park,
because
to
do
that,
you've
got
to
deal
with
the
legal
costs
of
making
sure
that
it's
all
done
correctly,
that
the
clerk's
got
a
role
there.
A
A
Environment,
where
neighborhoods
are
fighting
against
neighborhoods
for
investments,
because
I
mean
police-
don't
think.
Oh
I'm
not
going
to
cross
this
district
line.
Firefighters,
don't
think
I'm
not
going
to
cross
this
district
line.
Neither
do
many
of
our
residents
when
they
go
enjoy
a
regional
park
versus
a
neighborhood
park
so
that
we
really
remain
one
city
despite
districts.
J
You
know
certain
areas,
if
you
think
about
like
the
transportation,
housing,
environment,
economic
development,
we
we
think
that
there
will
be.
You
know
meaningful
opportunity
to
make
some
rapid
progress
in
those
areas
utilizing
some
of
those
one-time
resources
in
in
the
realm
of
public
safety.
You
know,
looking
to
you
know,
continue
to
expand.
You
know
utilization
or
allocation
of
resources
with
a
mix
of
one
one
time
and
ongoing
funds,
so
you
can
think
about
the
northwest
station,
both
from
a
construction
standpoint
as
well
as
from
a
staffing
standpoint.
J
F
Yes,
on
the
top
community
priorities,
I
I
will
continue
to
pound
this
drone,
because
I
think
it
is
important.
I've
been
reading
even
more
evidence.
That
of
how
important
this
is
is
that
if
we
marry
housing
and
transportation
recognizing
that
housing
in
the
right
place
can
reduce
transportation
costs,
it's
another
way
to
provide
relief
for
our
residents.
J
J
G
B
F
I
think
most
of
this
generation
has
resigned
themselves
to
self-funding,
their
retirement
and
we
have
a
tool
that
allows
them
to
actually
have
a
defined
benefit
at
retirement.
I'm
not
sure
that
we
use
that
enough
as
a
recruitment
tool,
and
I
just
wonder
if,
if
we
might
begin
messaging
more
around
that
you.
A
Know
we've
asked
hr
to
do
to
work
with
some
compensation
experts
to
get
at
what
the
what's
important
to
current
and
potential
workforce.
We're
finding
it's
changing,
but
you
know
have
put
that
in
in
the
department's
hands
to
come
up
with
the
best
compensation
package
to
meet
the
needs
interests
and,
once
quite
frankly,
of
a
new
generation
of
workers.
G
J
A
A
That
makes
it
hard
for
us
to
compete.
The
way
we'd
like
to
quite
frankly,
so
all
of
that
is
really
going
into
this
mix
as
we're
looking
at
how
to
attract
folks.
But
importantly,
I
think
we'll
get
to
it.
How
we
keep
the
folks
we
have
and
make
sure
that
their
the
buying
power
of
their
salaries
isn't
waning
with
every
year,
but
staying
where
it
ought
to
be
so
that
we're
competitive
with
other
agencies.
Cities
and
private
industry,
where
we
can
so
we
can
keep
our
current,
very
valuable
workforce.
E
E
I
think
is
the
larger
concern
and
I
think
that
that
will
have
some
long-term
budget
impacts
when
we
think
about
department
revenue,
the
level
of
service
we're
providing
in
those
areas,
but
then
also
how
that
ends
up
trickling
into
other
areas.
And
one
of
the
questions
I
asked
our
sheriff
earlier
was
how
many
of
the
folks
who
are
living
in
boise
or
living
in
this
area
are
represented
at
the
jail.
E
A
Well,
I
I
agree
with
you
and,
if
you'll
remember
last
year,
in
our
budget,
we
had
we
had
a
similar
conversation.
We
need
to
keep
having
it
and
staff
is
really
looking
at
that,
and
our
decision
last
year
was
to
use
base
sellers
to
increase
the
salaries,
the
largest
percentage
of
those
who
had
the
lowest
wages
in
our
city,
to
to
to
acknowledge
that.
F
F
That
when
we
first
put
in
our
wage
and
budget
process,
we
all,
although
parts
of
it
didn't
work
real
well,
a
part
that
I
think
at
least
philosophically
worked
well
was
that
the
percentage
increases
were
never
designed
to
be
across
the
board.
In
other
words,
if
I
make
a
lot-
and
I
get
a
three
percent-
and
I
make
a
little
and
I
get
the
three
percent-
it's
not
very
much
down
here-
it's
a
lot
up
here,
but
if
the
percentage
up
here
is
two
percent,
this
percentage
down
here
is
four
percent.
G
Madam
mayor,
just
to
to
follow
up
on
on
something
that
the
council
president
said
about,
you
know
promoting
what
it
is
we
have
to
offer,
such
as
percy
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
dei
and
having
that
be
internal
work
to
improve
the
culture.
Here
I
mean
it's
something:
we've
we've
promoted,
we've
talked
about
it
here
at
council.
G
I
think
that's
something
that
could
be
used
to
highlight
something
that
we
have
to
offer.
I
quite
frankly,
don't
know
of
another
municipality
in
our
state.
That
has
been
open
about
doing
that
work,
and
I
know
for
myself
as
a
person
of
color.
That's
what
I'm
looking
for
in
terms
of
an
employer
culture
figures
into
it
greatly.
J
Just
a
couple
more,
you
know
as
a
theme
looking
at
responding
to
growth,
so
you
know,
as
the
community
expands,
so
does
the
service
demand,
so
you
can
think
about
areas
like
police
and
fire
parks
and
recreation
planning
and
development,
transportation
and
housing,
and
even
the
internal
support
department,
staffing
and
you
can
see.
I
apologize
again.
This
one
is
also
quite
small,
but
you
can
see
just
the
trend
line
for
population
growth,
both
within
the
city
of
boise,
as
well
as
within
ada
county.
J
It's
steadily
steadily
going
up
and
with
that
does
come
service
demands
on
on
the
city
that
we
need
to
keep
up
with,
and
then
inflation
has
certainly
been.
You
know
at
the
top
of
the
news
quite
a
bit
recently.
You
know
we
see
it
within
you
know.
Within
our
city,
the
cost
of
basically
all
the
goods
and
services
are
increasing
at
rates
that
we
haven't
seen
in
decades.
J
So
you
know
certain
things
that
we're
looking
at.
Are
you
know
a
property
tax
rebate
program
for
the
circuit
breaker,
as
mentioned
earlier,
evaluating
compensation
options?
As
per
the
last
discussion,
you
know
to
ensure
you
know,
recruitment
retention,
efforts
and
and
the
provision
of
high
quality
services.
J
H
I
think
that
last
point
is
really
great
eric,
and
I
think
this
is
a
nice
illustration
of
the
intersection
between
our
climate
plans
and
how
it
helps
us
kind
of
shore
up
our
expenses
into
the
future,
because
I
look
at
the
fuel
contingency
fuel
prices
and
there's
nothing.
There
are
no
vehicles
that
are
better
suited
to
electrification
than
fleet
vehicles.
H
Most
of
them
have
kind
of
limited
areas
of
service
they
can
be
easily
recharged
and
that
the
pricing
certainty
that
it
gives
us
into
future
years.
I
think,
is
really
beneficial
to
our
budget
to
our
residents
and
we
can.
We
can
really
take
that
whole
volatility
piece
out
as
we're
replacing
those
vehicles,
so
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
Madame.
A
I
imagine
that
there
would
have
to
be
a
balance
of
both
given
the
realities
of
the
fleet,
but
do
agree
with
both
of
you.
I
mean
that's.
Why
we're
looking
at
the
electrification
of
our
buildings,
etcetera?
It
saves
money
in
the
long
run,
and
so
we
can
figure
out
if
there's
a
way
to
do
a
dual
phased
approach.
D
The
fuel
contingency,
as
I
understand
it,
is
essentially
just
a
fund
that
we
can
draw
from
to
like
mechanically.
How
does
it
work?
That's
my
first
question.
The
second
is:
do
maybe
this
isn't
allowed,
but
do
cities
ever
just
buy
contracts
for
people
to
you
know,
buy
a
futures,
contract
or
hedge
in
the
way
that
any
business
would
so
that
we
obtain
certainty.
We
know
at
12
months.
This
is
what
our
fuel
price
will
be.
J
Councilmember,
that's
something:
I'd
have
to
look
into
a
little
bit
more
in
terms
of
you
know,
being
able
to
you
know,
stabilize
prices
and
what
options
might
be
available
from.
You
know
the
from
an
operation
standpoint
how
that
might
work.
You
know
a
fuel
contingency
for
the
next
fiscal
year
is
maybe
budgeting,
something
like
something
centrally
that
could
be
allocated
if
the
need
is
available.
J
One
of
the
things
that
we've
seen
you
know
when
it
comes
to
electrification
is
just
the
availability.
So
we've
we've
increased
our
capital
funding
for
electric
vehicles.
We
pursue
electric
vehicles
as
the
first
option
in
many
instances,
they're
just
not
available
when
we
need
them
so
we're.
You
know
we're
going
to
have
to
have
to
get
there
over
time.
So.
J
J
J
E
Mary,
this
isn't
for
for
this
year,
but
this
is
where
council
member
sanchez's
comment
earlier
about
the
districts
I
think
is
important
to
be
looking
at
and
that
I
don't
think
that
any
of
us
want
the
budget
discussion
to
be
revolved
around
certain
neighborhoods.
But
I
do
think
that
access
to
things
like
the
budget,
interactive
and
some
of
the
different
workshops
is
a
real
thing
that
if
you're
a
community
that
is
in
downtown
or
that
is
in
downtown,
you've
got
a
lot
of
opportunity.
E
Whereas
someone
who's,
maybe
isn't,
is
further
away,
and
so
that,
as
we
start
looking
in
the
future,
as
council
has
broken
up
into
districts,
we
do
begin
the
evaluation
process
of
making
sure
that
these
budget
conversations
are
available
in
a
variety
of
different
neighborhoods.
Just
from
an
accessibility
standpoint,.
F
E
Yeah
and
madame
air
to
to
be
clear
council
president,
absolutely
not
like
we
don't
want
to
be
focusing
on
the
the
districts
being
part
of
the
conversation,
but
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
engaging
the
best
that
we
can
city's
done
a
great
job
with
this.
But
it
does
get
more
complicated,
as
things
are
more
split
up
and
making
sure
that
geographically,
the
conversations
are
available
and
they
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
the
districts
themselves.
They
just
have
to
do
with
the
proximity
of
different
areas
of
town,
yeah,.
H
H
And
so
we
talked
about
fire
stations
and
libraries
and
various
different
places,
and
I
think
that
landing
on
hillcrest
library,
because
it
has
the
space
it
has
the
technological
resources
that
we
need
to
stream,
was
really
a
reflection
of
having
that
conversation
internally
about.
You
know
like
how
do
we,
how
do
we
get
outside
of
city
hall
and
into
a
place,
that's
more
accessible
to
our
residents
and
that's
how
we
landed
on
hillcrest,
yep,
adam.
G
Here,
just
adding
my
final
two
cents
to
this,
I'm
on
record
as
not
wanting
districts,
because
I
feared
of
of
exactly
that
of
this
segregation,
and
this
you
know
boundary
placing
that
just
really
doesn't
make
sense
for
the
way.
We've
all
approached
our
work,
but
we
have
to
ask
these
questions.
You
know
we
we
have
to
let
our
constituents
know
that
we
are
asking
these
questions
on
their
behalf,
and
so
I
don't
think
that
it
reflects
our
individual
desires.
It's
I
am
simply
trying
to
reflect
and
honor.
G
What
I
was
told
is
the
point
of
having
districts
to
have
better
representation
and,
like
I
said
I,
I
don't
doubt
at
all
my
colleagues
approach
to
this
work.
It's
always
been
about
what
is
best
for
our
beautiful
city
and
all
the
people
who
reside
here
but
again
just
trying
to
honor
the
the
folks
who
who
pushed
districts
and
letting
them
know
that
we
are
asking
these
questions.
K
Madam
mayor
council
members,
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
with
some
of
the
work
I've
directed
staff
to
do
in
this
space.
So
we've
had
staff
with
council
member
whitting's
leadership,
developing
the
redistricting
process.
Step
two
will
bring
before
you
considerations
for
policies
you
may
want
to
change.
In
light
of
this,
I
think
nothing's
not
going
to
change,
but
what
I
think
is
a
better
day
is
coming
up
with
a
comprehensive
approach
and
not
every
budget
hearing
or
every.
What
are
we
going
to
do
about
districts
with?