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A
A
D
E
A
Up
item
5
under
special
business,
some
items,
1,
&,
2
or
reappointments
of
preston,
carter
and
kate,
Lovan
or
levin.
Excuse
me
to
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Commission
for
three
year
terms:
ending
May
2023
after
we
have
a
unanimous
consent,
request,
I
believe
that
Preston
has
joined
us
and
so
your
whoa.
Yes,
there,
you
are
hello.
How
are
you
good.
A
D
D
A
F
No
problem,
I,
just
I'll,
be
very
brief.
I've
served
on
the
Commission
since
2016
I've
very
much
enjoyed
working
with
Doug
and
his
wonderful
staff.
It's
been
fun
to
see
you
know,
areas
of
the
city
developed
and
transformed
from
underutilized
to
you,
know
popular
attractions
and
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
them
as
they
you
know,
provide
what
I
would
consider
low-cost
and
healthy
activities
for
all
Boise
ins
and
appreciate
the
council's
support.
A
D
D
A
Great
well
I'm
Rachel,
you've
joined
us
thanks
so
much
for
your
interest
in
this.
This
was
really
fun.
There
were
so
much
interest
in
joining
the
Library
Commission
and
interviewed
quite
a
few
different
residents,
all
of
whom
were
committed
to
the
library
and
it's
it's
with
pleasure.
That
I
asked
Rachel
to
join
the
board
and
thanks
Commission
for
council
for
approving
her
appointment
and
thank
you
Rachel
for
your
interest
and
passion
around
libraries
and
the
service
that
you're
embarking
on
for
our
city
and
with
that
fleet,
like
yeah.
G
I
mean
I
I'm
really
excited
I
am
a
mom
of
three
young
kids
and
a
student.
So
we
utilize
all
the
facets
of
the
libraries
and
so
my
family,
just
we've
become
such
boise
library
lovers
in
the
ten
years
we've
lived
here,
so
I'm
excited
to
be
able
to
give
back
to
an
institution
who's
given
so
much
to
us.
So
thank
you
for
giving
me
this
privilege
of
serving
on
the
library
board.
Well,.
H
America,
yes,
please
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
and
congratulations
to
Rachel
for
this
position.
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
your
quite
a
bit
in
the
community
over
at
Jefferson,
Elementary
and
I.
Think
if
there's
anybody
who
understands
the
important
value
and
the
roles
that
the
library
plays,
it's
definitely
Rachel
so
I'm
glad
to
have
you
as
a
fellow
team
member
and
congratulations
thanks.
G
A
Next,
up
under
special
business
is
item
for
the
knot.
We
are
not
having
a
weekly
update,
but
before
us
is
the
resolution
to
8120
ratifying
the
public
health
order
that
I
signed
on
of
it's
numbered
20-10
and
that
we
enacted
on
July
2nd
and
was
effective
on
the
4th
a
couple
things
on
this
I'm.
Just
a
little
bit
ago,
the
Central
District
Health
Board
did
vote
to
immediately
institute
a
mask
order
throughout
all
of
Ada
County,
and
so
once
we
move
forward
with
this
and
we'll
compare
the
two
orders.
A
We
decided
that
in
consultation,
council,
leadership
and
I
had
talked
about
the
importance
of
taking
this
action
when
we
did
and
because
it
would
have
good,
better
impacts
on
our
economy,
help
prevent
additional
closures
of
businesses,
but
instead,
hopefully
help
us
keep
everything
open
and
get
people
back
to
work,
and
ultimately,
we
hope
back
to
school
I'm
recognizing
that
public
health
decisions
are
deeply
intertwined
with
economic
decisions.
A
At
this
point,
because
it's
all
about
people,
our
task
force
recommended
that
we
take
this
action
earlier
in
the
week
that
we
did
write
this
order,
as
did
medical
directors
and
so
really
appreciate
the
support
and
cooperation
we've
gotten
from
both
the
business
and
medical
community.
That's
encouraged
us
to
take
these
steps
when
we've
taken
them
and
with
that.
A
Oh
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
tonight,
Commissioner
Lachi
Ando
at
the
Central
District
Health
meetings,
said
that
she's
seen
mark
market
difference
between
mask-wearing
and
boise
and
other
places,
and
so,
while
there
are
questions
about
enforcement,
we
said
from
the
beginning.
We
wanted
to
educate
first,
because
really
what's
most
important
is
that
we
increase
the
usage
of
masks
and
medical
professionals
said.
You
know
any
incremental
change
that
we
make
with
an
order
is
good
for
all
of
us.
A
People
notice
the
difference,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
the
effort
of
most
poisons,
like
all
of
you
that
and
that
this
works,
that
this
is
a
step
we
need
to
take
to
protect
our
residents
and
keep
us
back
to
work.
So
truly
appreciate
the
steps
that
our
residents
have
taken
to
work
with
us
and
follow
this
order
and
to
expand
the
usage
of
masks
in
advance
of
the
Central
District
total
health
order.
This
evening.
B
Madam
mayor,
yes,
yeah
TJ
here
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
this
and
thank
our
council
leadership,
Holly
and
Elaine
for
your
input
in
that
process
as
well.
I
just
want
to
note
for
the
record
I
full
heartedly
support.
This
move
I
think
it's
a
bold
and
needed
much
necessary
move
and
we're
seeing
this
happen
in
states
across
the
United
States,
all
different
types
of
states,
all
different
types
of
cities.
It's
it's
all
about
the
public
health
and
this
move
is
necessary.
B
I
D
E
I
I
Once
we
look
at
the
but
ratifying
tonight
is
still
very
important
so
that
our
order
doesn't
expire
before
the
central
district,
health
order
goes
into
effect
and,
and
so
I
think
that's
important
and
then
just
a
note,
if
we
are
not
going
to
have
the
weekly
update
I
do
believe
we
need
to
amend
the
agenda
to
take
it
off,
but
I
do
see
Mallory
here,
so
I
thought
we
were
gonna
have
at
least
a
short
update.
Oh.
I
A
J
J
All
of
the
health
professionals
I've
spoken
to,
and
others
really
agree
that
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
get
our
community
spread
under
control
and
hopefully
prevent
us
from
having
to
move
back
in
stages,
which
we
don't
want
to
do.
We
don't
want
businesses
to
have
to
close.
We
don't
want
to
create
that
uncertainty.
J
So
it's
really
it's
really
up
to
us
as
Boise
ends
and
now
as
people
living
in
Ada
County
to
make
sure
that
as
we're
going
about
our
business
in
the
community,
we're
making
sure
that
we're
masked,
unless
we're
able
to
maintain
six
feet
of
social
distance
from
others
and
were
outdoors
so
I'm
I
have
high
hopes,
after
talking
to
a
lot
of
doctors
and
nurses
and
epidemiologists
and
others
that
this
will
really
help
us
out.
It'll
help
us
get
our
kids
back
in
school
safely.
J
It'll
help
keep
our
economy
open,
and
so
now
it's
up
to
us
to
actually
do
it.
So
I
just
want
to
invite
everyone
to
wear
your
mask
in
public.
Hopefully,
we'll
have
more
opportunities
for
folks
to
pick
up
free
masks
in
the
future.
Our
first
opportunity
was
really
successful.
We
had
thousands
of
really
grateful,
smiling
people
coming
to
pick
up
their
masks.
So
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
I'm,
really
hoping
that
this
helps
us
out
in
the
coming
weeks.
A
Thanks
Councilmember,
weddings
and
I
should
be
remiss
councilmember,
Sanchez
you're.
Next
I
was
remiss
in
not
saying
each
of
you
who
volunteer.
We
did
we
passed
out
nearly
7,000
free
masks
on
July
3rd
and
many
of
you,
if
not
all,
of
yous
Council
members
volunteered
at
those
stations
to
hand
them
out
to
our
residents
and
really
appreciate
your
help
in
that
no.
D
Mayor
yeah
I
just
want
to
echo
what
council
leadership
has
already
said
in
what
council
councilman
Thompson
has
said.
You
know
being
able
to
interact
with
the
community
with
the
public
and
to
see
so
many
people
who
you
know
for
them
purchasing
a
mask
would
be
a
hardship
and
to
see
those
folks
take
responsibility.
Act
on
the
opportunity
to
come
down
to
City
Hall
West
down
to
the
train
depot
to
get
their
masks
to
ask
where
else
they
could
purchase
masks.
D
It's
an
indication
that
we
do
have
people
in
our
city
who
care
very
much
about
what
they
can
do
to
help
crush
the
curve
and
I'm
hoping
that
at
some
point
that
we'll
be
able
to
continue
to
provide
those
free
masks
for
folks
for
those
that
are
willing
to
do
what's
needed
to
overcome
this
situation.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
leadership
on
this.
We
have
folks
who
want
to
do
the
right
thing
and
I
think
with
with
our
help
that
they
can
do
that.
E
So
there's
been
some
criticism
not
much,
but
from
from
a
small
group
of
loud
people
directed
at
me
and
directed
at
my
colleagues
to
because
we
are
unanimous.
We
all
feel
this
way
and
we
feel
this
way
because
it's
the
right
thing
to
do.
It's
the
right
thing
to
do
for
the
health
and
the
safety
of
our
community.
It's
the
right
thing
to
do
for
business.
It's
the
right
thing.
According
to
every
medical
expert,
it's
the
right
thing.
According
to
people
who
have
a
lot
at
stake
here
and
want
the
best
for
our
community.
E
A
A
Well,
thank
you
all
and
thank
you
boy
sands,
for
making
this
happen
and
for
working
with
us
to
make
it
happen.
I
do
want
to
say
Michael
deeds
wrote
an
article
in
The
Statesman
about
people
on
their
bikes,
not
wearing
them.
Etta
and
I
ran
on
the
green
belt.
On
what
day
was
that
that
I
on
Friday,
it
was
really
hot
on
Friday
and
I
wore
masks
the
whole
time
because
I
want
cuz
I
used
to
have
it
around
my
chin
and
I
thought
nope.
Now
we
have
an
order.
A
I'm,
gonna,
wear
the
whole
time,
if
you
put
it
on
when
you
start
to
exercise
you
actually
just
like
when
you
have
them
cuff,
and
then
you
get
used
to
it,
you
actually
stop
noticing
that
you're
breathing
through
something
so
I'd
encourage
everybody
to
try
that.
But
this
morning,
when
I
was
on
the
I
ran
holes
Gulch
and
about
65
percent
of
bikers
hikers
and
runners
that
I
passed,
or
that
we
went
back
and
forth
on
had
a
mass
on,
and
that
was
not
like
that
three
weeks
ago.
A
So
appreciate
the
partnership
with
media
that
have
written
stories
about
how
to
make
it
happen
and
really
appreciate
seeing
residents
and
take
this
up
recognizing
how
important
it
is
to
keep
us
back
at
work.
Reopen
the
economy
partner
together,
and
it's
all
about
people
I'm
so
just
wanted
to
once
again
end
this
before
the
vote.
I'm
with
a
thank
you
to
Boise
ins,
who
have
been
so
willing
to
acknowledge
the
impact
this
has
and
then
to
work
with
us
to
make
sure
that
we
do
this
together.
A
A
My
goodness
Mallory
this
is
not
personal.
I
am
so
sorry.
Sorry,
sorry,
chief
I
really
just
want
to
forget
that
coat.
You
know,
let's
just
pretend
Cove
is
not
here.
No,
we
are
not
gonna
pretend
because
we
have
to
take
this
seriously
and
do
the
right
thing
which
all
of
our
people
are
doing
and
but
Mallory
sorry
to
do
that
to
you
again
and
please
go
ahead
thanks
for
joining
us
this
week,
yeah.
K
Just
wanted
to
I
think
just
get
in
front
of
you
guys
again
I'm
getting
me
and
just
if
I
can
get
my
screen
tour.
Is
you
guys
seeing
this
yeah?
Okay?
Thank
you.
Sorry.
My
computer
was
a
little
glitchy
there
for
a
second
I'm
just
wanted
to
come
back
before
you.
It's
been
a
little
bit
since
we've
had
a
coven
update,
I
counsel
and
take
a
look
at
just
a
couple
of
things
and
just
an
update
on
what's
still
going
on
in
the
city.
K
So
this
is,
as
a
yesterday,
the
case
counts
by
day
for
Ada
County,
as
reported
by
central
district
health.
This
I
have
switched
kind
of
a
beginning.
I
was
looking
at
and
state
data,
that's
what
was
readily
available.
Central
sterk
Health
has
done
a
great
job
of
updating
their
dashboard
with
the
data,
and
their
data
is
a
little
more
current
than
the
state
there's
a
bit
of
a
delay
in
that
reporting.
So
some
of
the
numbers
that
we'll
see
on
the
state
site
are
a
little
bit
delayed.
K
So
this
this
data
from
central
district
health
really
is
I'm
kind
of
the
the
latest
look
at
how
things
are
so
we
obviously
are
continuing
to
see
an
increase
in
cases.
It
kind
of
goes
up
and
down.
I
think
that's
largely
probably
based
on
reporting
and
testing,
but
definitely
still
an
increase
this
most
recent
week
over
the
last
week,
and
so
that's
kind
of
being
echoed
by
the
hospital
systems
and
and
definitely
pointed
out
by
central
district
health.
K
So
just
wanted
to
to
show
that
that
rate
most
recent
case
graph
and
then
a
little
bit
of
update
just
on
how
current
operations
are
going
within
the
city.
As
far
as
Kovac
goes,
you
know
we
did
a
lot
of
initial
response.
Coordination,
I'm
sure
you
guys
remember
kind
of
eight
different
work
streams
that
we
had
identified
and
that
Wendy
was
leading
that
Grahame.
Maybe
those
work
streams
after
a
lot
of
that
initial
coordination
and
planning
kind
of
get
anything
set
in
place.
K
Many
of
those
have
transitioned
kind
of
back
to
their
normal
city
operational
channels,
so
folks
are
using
their
day-to-day
roles
to
continue
in
that
work.
But
it's
definitely
a
much
more
of
a
day-to-day
component
and
doesn't
need
as
much
high-level
coordination
and
planning,
and
we
are
continuing
with
the
a
couple
of
the
work
streams
that
are
still
very
relevant
and
there
is
much
a
need
for
so
that
it
includes
the
vulnerable
populations
continuing
to
monitor
that
homelessness
response
plan
and
keep
an
eye
on
that
and
continue
to
execute
that
plan.
K
We
continue
to
work
with
the
County
Emergency
Management
Office,
to
coordinate
things
between
the
county
and
the
city
and
then
that
organizational
recovery
is
the
staged
reopening
framework
that
Kyle
has
worked
on
and
that
year.
Those
plans
are
pretty
well
set
in
place,
but
want
to
keep
an
eye
on
that
if
we
do
have
to
change
stages
back
or
when
we
get
the
opportunity
to
move
forward
again,
we'll
have
that
spun
up
to
make
sure
that
that's
coordinated,
and
so
with
that
you
know.
K
It's
said
that
some
of
those
work
streams
have
transitioned
back
to
normal,
but
just
want
everyone
to
know
that.
There's
always
the
option
to
spin
things
back
up
if
it's
necessary,
and
so
this
kind
of
core
group
that
we
have
of
this
continuing
work
streams,
we're
continuing
to
look
at
what
might
rear
its
head
in
the
future.
K
What
we
might
need
to
look
at
coming
down
the
pike
in
the
future
and
so
we're
kind
of
meeting
regularly
still
to
look
at
some
of
that
contingency
planning
and
explore
options
and
where,
where
we
might
need
to
continue
to
respond
as
a
city,
and
so
then
with
that
just
a
couple
of
additional
hot
topics
that
have
kind
of
been
on
the
radar.
We're
continuing
with
that
wastewater
data.
K
Monitoring
sampling
continues
five
times
a
week
at
the
wastewater
treatment
facilities
and
just
a
reminder
that
it
measures
the
quantity
of
the
virus
in
the
wastewater,
but
not
necessarily
a
number
of
cases.
So
it's
very
good
trends
data,
but
it's
not
necessarily
going
to
show
us
how
many
people
within
the
community
potentially
have
the
virus
and
then
another
reminder
that
it's
still
a
really
new
area
of
research,
but
early
in
the
that.
K
It's
very
useful,
and
so
we've
been
sharing
this
data
with
the
Health
District
and
doing
some
looks
at
how
it
can
be
useful,
going
forward
and
so
I
know
Kyle's
on
as
well.
If
there's
any
questions
about
that
he's
kind
of
been
taking
the
lead
in
working
with
Public
Works
and
Central
District
Health
on
and
coordinating
that
data
and
then,
as
a
McLean
mentioned
some
toasters
health
about
four
minutes.
Before
this
meeting
started,
it
seemed
like
passed
a
mass
requirement
for
Ada
County
that
was
effective
immediately.
K
I
know
that
they've
posted
that
on
their
emergency
management,
social
media
channels
and
in
socialist
through
other
eight
accounting
channels
as
well.
So
if
satya
county
is
also
doing
some
of
those
mass
distribution
events,
so
that
is
all
I
had
tonight
just
a
quick
kind
of
check
in
on
where
we
are
so.
If
anyone
has
any
questions,
there
are
some
topics
that
we
need
to
pursue
for
the
future
I'm
happy
to
have
to
be
open.
For
that.
K
I
Mayor
go
ahead.
Thank
you
thanks
Valerie
for
coming,
so
the
council
leadership
and
the
mayor
of
had
the
opportunity
to
be
on
County
calls
a
couple
of
times
a
week
or
weekly,
depending
on
how
how
much
for
crisis
were
in,
and
so
recently
it's
been
amped
up
again
and
I
knew
that
the
rest
of
you,
hadn't
hadn't,
seen
some
of
this
data
for
a
while,
so
I
thought
it
might
be
valuable.
I
Thankfully,
we're
prepared
for
that
and
I
would
add
by
the
way
that,
in
addition
to
being
at
the
fairgrounds
tonight,
the
county
is
going
to
be
at
Timberline
High
School
on
Thursday
night.
So
if
there's
anyone
watching
who
needs
masks,
those
are
available
in
those
two
sites
within
Earth.
Well,
Fair
Grounds
is
very
near
our
city
and
Timberline,
of
course,
is
in
the
city.
In
the
next
few
days,
Thanks
Thank,
You
Mallory.
J
Madam
mayor,
yes,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
update,
Mallory
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
question.
I've
had
a
couple
of
folks
reach
out
to
reach
out
directly
asking
for
masks
resources
that
they
can
help
us
distribute
through
different
community
organizations.
Do
we
still
have
that
resource
connection
and
I
remember
having
something
on
our
website
early
on
to
connect
folks
to
resources?
Do
we
still
have
that
up
and
running
I
believe.
K
So
and
if
nothing
else,
there's
always
the
the
email
or
the
call
center,
that's
still
functioning.
So
that
would
be
a
great
way
to
at
least
get
connected.
But
I
haven't
checked
lately,
but
I
believe
the
resource
connector
is
still
up,
but
those
those
pathways
to
that
Resource
Center
for
the
call
and
email
definitely
are
still
open.
Great.
A
A
We
did
that
other
almost
6000
I
think
and
we
are
looking
at
how
we
can
create
more
resources
for
people.
Librarians
are
looking
at
how
many
they
could
make
and
then
distribute
to
through
organizations
that
need
it
and
we'll
be
doing
continual
checks
on
what
we
as
a
city,
need
to
protect
our
employees
and
then
what
we
might
have
available
for
public
and
organ
and
individuals
in
need.
Madam.
D
D
K
Councilman
members
say
just
that:
that's
like
that's
a
great
question
and
I
know
that
the
jail
is
obviously
a
county
entity,
but
I
do
know
that
they've
been
taking
precautions
and
again
kind
of
more
anecdotally.
There
has
been
cases
within
the
correctional
facilities,
but
I
haven't
heard
of
any
cases
within
the
jail.
And
again
that's
just
on
my
experience.
So
it's
not
necessarily
official,
but
so
I
do
know
that
they
are,
are
taking
those
precautions
very
seriously
at
the
jail
to
make
sure
to
reduce
the
risk
to
that
community.
K
B
You
quick
question
as
well:
TJ
Nikki,
Mallory
I
appreciate
the
update
as
usual
and
I.
The
one
concern
I
continue
to
hear
from
several
folks
is
that
the
gyms
now
we
are
constrained
in
some
ways
is
that
correct
because
of
the
membership
clause,
could
you
help
me
understand
and
help
the
public
understand.
A
I'll
jump
in
here,
council
member
and
because
this
goes
to
the
mask
order,
we'll
need
to
review
it.
Somehow
Central
District
Health
address
gyms
and
there's
we
we,
we
modeled
our
order
off
of
other
the
the
few
cities
that
had
written
them
at
the
same
time
or
just
an
advance
of
us,
and
so,
if
you'll
give
us
the
evening
and
the
morning
to
review
Central
Districts
Health
order,
their
their
definitions
are
often
different
than
our.
A
So
we
need
to
check
it
out
and
then
there'll
be
more
clarity
on
whether
or
not
there
will
be
changes
or
how
gyms
are
looked
at.
I
would
say
that
there
are
numbers
of
gyms,
because,
right
now
the
requirement
is,
if
you
can't
be
six
feet
apart,
then
you
need
to
mask
and
there
are
more
gems
than
not
I'm
working
with
us
to
require
that
to
protect
their
members,
and
we
encourage
all
gyms
to
do
the
same.
Thank.
G
A
C
L
Of
council
and
members
of
the
community,
they
were
joining
us
online.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
and
give
you
a
brief
update
on
policing
here
in
the
City
of
Boise,
so
by
way
of
starting
I
am
on
day
14
on
the
job,
just
officially
for
the
record,
but
I
come
here
with
20
years
of
experience.
Working
for
the
Portland
Police
Bureau
have
a
strong
history
of
working
with
community,
particularly
in
partnership.
I've
worked
with
several
nonprofits
I've
mentored
at-risk
youth.
That's
a
behavior!
L
Over
the
course
of
my
police,
career
I've
had
the
good
opportunity
to
be
able
to
travel
both
and
nationally
and
internationally,
and
look
at
policing
best
practices,
not
simply
in
the
academic
sense
and
on
paper,
but
actually
in
practice
and
in
action
and
so
I'm
able
to
bring
to
the
Boise
Police
Department
some
of
that
information
and
look
at
it
through
those
lenses.
So
Boise
is
a
wonderful
place
with
good
people
and
great
police
officers,
and
even
with
that,
we
can
do
better.
L
When
you
come
to
an
organization
with
slightly
different
experiences
and
a
different
viewpoint.
It's
simple
to
see
the
enhancements
and
the
opportunities
for
advancement
that
may
have
been
missed
previously
and
I
have
the
good
fortune
of
being
able
to
bring
that
to
the
Boise
Police
Department
and
with
that
insight,
I
intend
to
make
some
improvements
sooner
rather
than
later.
L
And
so
before,
I
talk
about
some
of
the
things
I've
observed.
Let
me
speak
briefly
about
why
I
would
choose
to
come
to
the
Boise
Police
Department
after
my
career
elsewhere,
first
and
foremost,
the
police
department's
strong
commitment
and
as
an
example
of
community
policing
for
the
entire
nation.
Oh
look
at
was
a
strong
draw
here.
Community
policing
is
arguably
the
most
effective
tool
for
maintaining
police
legitimacy
in
driving
down
crime
rates.
That
has
been
recognized
within
the
last
hundred
years.
L
Any
advancement,
policing
Boise,
is
absolutely
committed
to
that
approach
at
a
level
that
is
not
seen
in
any
of
the
other
top
100
cities
in
the
United
States.
Besides,
that,
Boise
is
a
naturally
beautiful
place.
It's
amazing
recreational
assets
so
for
a
family
person
to
be
able
to
bring
my
family
here.
L
Of
course,
it
would
be
inviting
it's
got
a
safe,
vibrant
and
sustainable
community
values,
which
I
think
are
incredibly
important,
but
also
values
that
tie
in
to
why
community
policing
is
so
effective
here
and
it's
a
welcoming
City,
guided
by
those
principles
of
inclusion,
and
we
really
invite
all
people
to
participate
in
the
process.
Here.
It's
a
true
example
of
community
policing,
whether
it's
the
liaison
officers,
refugee
outreach
citizens,
advisory
panel
citizen,
responders
mental
health
response
programs.
L
Over
zero,
the
Boise
Police
Department
made
a
very
deliberate
decision
to
pivot
heavily
towards
community
policing.
Many
other
police
departments
throughout
the
United
States
do
not
necessarily
embrace
community
policing
to
the
same
level
that
we
do
here
in
Boise
other
cities.
The
traditional
formula
for
allocating
resources
is
about
two-thirds
of
your
resources
to
patrol
services
and
about
1/3
to
community
outreach,
community
engagement
and
investigations,
Boise
recognized
or
two
decades
ago
that
the
answer
to
maintaining
and
restoring
police
legitimacy
to
driving
down
crime
rates.
L
Having
that
connection,
the
community
was
to
invert
that
formula
and
assal
it
2/3
of
our
budget
is
clearly
dedicated
to
and
2/3
of
our
resources
that
dedicates
that
community
policing
an
investigation
approach.
So
some
of
the
examples
that
we
have
our
commitment
to
neighborhood
contact
officers,
community
liaisons,
the
Behavioral
Health
Team,
our
bicycle
unit,
that
is
frequently
seen
riding
through
the
Greenbelt,
as
well
as
dedicated
detectives
for
Special
Investigations,
as
well
as
other
key
vulnerable
populations
that
are
served
by
specialized
investigative
units.
L
Community
policing
is
an
incredibly
resource,
intensive
approach,
though,
and
it's
a
challenge
because
its
success
is
measured
in
what
does
not
happen,
which
is
very
difficult
for
us
to
quantify,
but
I'm
going
to
try
and
give
you
in
a
few
slides
here
an
example
of
how
we
can
see
that.
But
I
also
want
to
say
that
community
policing
is
not
simply
an
approach
that
has
driven
down
crime
and
restore
legitimacy.
It
is
lived
out
in
the
core
values
of
the
officers
that
we
have
here.
L
L
They
were
able
to
return
the
team
to
the
mental
health
care
they
needed,
as
well
as
back
to
the
family.
I
can't
emphasize
enough
how
this
might
not
have
played
out
in
another
city,
unlike
Boise,
where
we're
committed
the
officers
in
that
situation
rather
than
stand
there
and
try
and
guess,
play
from
distance
were
willing
to
step
into
harm's
way
at
the
risk
that
this
team
could
seeking
the
confrontation
fire,
and
they
would
rather
take
that
chance
than
have
a
force
event
that
they
didn't
want
to
occur.
L
It's
lived
out
in
the
city,
it's
not
always
lived
out
elsewhere.
Last
Wednesday
we
had
an
individual
who
was
standing
on
an
overpass
clearly
seeking
to
end
his
life
officers
were
able
to
respond,
seamlessly
worked
with
traffic
officers
to
divert
traffic.
Where
would
a
calmly
and
coolly
talk
to
the
individual
and
convince
him
to
come
back
over
the
rail
off
of
the
overpass?
That
and
of
itself
is
an
act
of
incredible
compassion.
L
What
I
think
speaks
more
to
those
values
is
the
very
first
thing
the
officer
did
was
to
walk
up
embrace
the
man
shake
his
hand
and
thank
him
for
not
jumping
and
to
make
sure
that
he
got
him
the
help
that
he
needed.
Those
kinds
of
values
lived
out
speaking
more
to
the
commitment
to
community
policing
than
the
simple
metrics.
So
I'll
show
you
so
on
the
slide
that
we
have
here
from
the
year
2000
to
2018,
you
can
see
the
crime
rates
relative
to
a
thousand
citizens
for
relatively
comparable
cities.
L
Upper
left-hand
corner
is
Boise
Idaho
Salt
Lake
City
Utah
on
the
upper
right
Spokane
Washington
down
at
the
bottom
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
Boise's
access,
the
crime
rate
is
so
low
because
of
a
pivot
earlier,
which
I'll
speak
to
you
in
a
second
that
we
had
already
made
to
community
policing.
The
crime
rate
by
2000
was
so
low.
You'll
notice
that
the
vertical
axis
does
not
even
go
as
high
as
it
does
in
other
cities
that
are
comparable.
People
can
easily
get
in
a
car
and
drive
to
Spokane.
L
They
can
drive
to
Salt
Lake
they're,
not
that
different
than
ours,
but
you
can
see
the
trend.
Not
only
is
it
substantially
lower
on
that
vertical
axis,
but
it's
a
downward
trend
line.
The
same
cannot
be
said
for
our
colleagues
in
other
cities,
and
this
is
drawn
from
the
FBI's
Uniform
Crime
Report,
probably
driving
the
point
home
more
distinctly
is
in
1995.
The
population
of
Boise
was
about
a
hundred
fifty
five
thousand
people
per
hundred
thousand
citizens.
L
Even
by
2006,
that
number
had
dropped
to
three
thousand
five
hundred
forty-three
crimes
per
100,000
citizens
that
commitment
to
community
policing.
That's
how
we
can
gauge
the
what
didn't
happen.
We
can
see
that
rate
dropping.
We
know
it's
dropping
at
a
rate,
that's
different,
fundamentally
different
than
in
other
cities
in
the
United
States.
L
L
Oscar
Jessica
NARS
are
currently
serving
liaisons,
a
refugee
community
and
speaking
of
Cova
19
because
of
the
connections
she
had
with
the
community
and
the
cultural
competency
she
had
navigating
in
those
communities.
She
recognized
that
many
members
of
the
vulnerable
refugee
population
might
not
have
the
mobility
or
the
time
because
they
were
still
working
to
come
to
the
free
mask
giveaways
officer,
NAR
of
her
own
accord
went
and
acquired
additional
materials
has
been
going
door-to-door
to
refugee
families
that
don't
have
mass
to
deliver
them.
L
That
is
a
commitment
to
serving
the
community
and
the
best
capacity
they
can
to
protect
them
officer.
Nar
also
recognized
recently
that
there
was
a
missing
adult
that
was
in
jeopardy.
She
recognized
that
because
of
cultural
norms,
that
community
was
not
necessarily
reaching
out
but
had
the
cues
and
then
wherewithal
to
recognize.
They
were
saying
enough
that
they
needed
help.
She
was
able
to
convince
them
to
file
the
report,
coordinate
the
resources
and
we
were
able
to
locate
that
missing
endangered
adult.
L
These
successes,
we
are
always
looking
for
opportunities
to
continue
our
outreach
to
these,
sometimes
disenfranchised
and
vulnerable
populations,
and
to
make
those
meaningful
connections
to
form
that
human
connection
that
will
benefit
with
the
community
policing
approach.
So,
despite
the
fact
that
I'm
on
day
14
I
have
been
looking
ahead,
a
little
bit
and
I
want
to
emphasize
that
I.
Believe
transparency
is
one
of
the
key
areas
that
we
can
develop
in
the
Boise
Police
Department.
L
It
is
key
and
fundamental
in
the
21st
century
to
maintaining
legitimacy
to
get
people
timely
access,
the
information
about
their
Police
Department's.
It's
just
what
people
have
come
to
expect
part
of
that
will
be
the
development
of
dashboards
so
that
citizens
can
gauge
Arce's
and
contacts,
as
well
as
our
use
of
force.
I
think
it
ties
in
with
a
need
to
update,
revise
and
reform
our
policy
manual
to
conform
with
national
best
practices.
L
A
Well,
council
members
are
asking
questions:
would
you
go
back
to
the
last
slide
just
so
that
people
could
watching
can
have
time
to
see
it
while
we're
asking
questions
very.
L
A
A
All
right,
our
goal
with
this
was
to
welcome
you
here
for
the
first
time
empty
here,
it's
not
where
you'll
head
quickly
and
then,
of
course,
long-term
vision
and
for
moving
forward
and
really
appreciate
your
time
here
tonight.
All
of
us
will
have
many
more
conversations
with
you
as
we
move
ahead.
Thank.
H
Madam
mayor,
this
is
councilmember,
Halyburton,
sure,
yeah,
sorry
for
the
delay
there
I
was
kind
of
hoping
that
somebody
else
would
pop
in
while
I
sort
of
processed
things
in
my
head
making
sure
that
I
was
asking
a
question
that
was
both
answerable
and
sort
of
concise
chief
I.
Please
appreciate
the
presentation
that
you
put
forward
today.
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
chance
to
meet
with
me
and
all
the
other
council
members
as
well
as
meeting
with
the
inclusive
Idaho.
H
Last
week,
I've
been
impressed
with
the
short
time
that
you've
been
here
and
I'm
really
hopeful
for
your
for
your
leadership
here
in
Boise.
My
question,
I
guess-
and
this
is
the
perfect
slide
to
be
on-
is
when
we're
looking
at
the
year
ahead
and
we've
got
a
few
bullet
points.
There
I'm
wondering
if
there's
anything
that
we're
looking
at
as
far
the
year
ahead.
H
It
goes
in
further
addressing
mental
ho
mental
health
and
issues
surrounding
homelessness,
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
asked
that
question
is
that
every
single
day,
I
look
around
my
community
and
I
can
see
more
and
more
people
who
are
experiencing
a
variety
of
different
types
of
stress
because
of
koban,
because
of
this
moment
of
this
new
lens
of
racial
injustice
that
we're
looking
through.
For
so
many
for
the
protesters
that
are
out
and
sharing
their
voice.
And
you
know
in
some
cases
putting
themselves
at
risk.
L
L
H
Thank
You
chief,
madam
mayor,
maybe
just
one
follow-up
question
chief
I
know
you've
been
here
for
a
short
time.
I
know.
One
of
the
things
that
you
wanted
to
do
was
to
kind
of
look
through
that
budget
a
little
bit
more
as
far
as
as
far
as
the
line
items
in
there
versus
kind
of
more
of
a
bucket
approach,
I'm
wondering
if
we
think
that
we'll
have
time
to
look
at
that
further
between
now
and
the
budget
hearing
on
July
21st.
L
Yes,
I
am
working
with
Allison
Tate
the
commander
that
essentially
supervises
our
services
side
of
the
operation,
we're
looking
at
trying
to
pull
the
budget
apart
more
distinctly
so
that
we
can
see
particular
categories
of
the
budget,
so
that's
more
transparent
rather
than
as
you
describe
it.
One
large
bucket,
so
it's
more
transparent,
both
internally
easier
to
manage,
as
well
as
more
transparent
to
the
public.
I.
L
Think
the
other
key
as
we
move
towards
developing
a
more
transparent
budget
would
be
to
put
in
performance
metrics
so
that
the
public
understands
when
we're
succeeding
in
spending
those
dollars.
How
fast
we
can
implement
that
because
that's
a
significant
change,
the
budget,
whether
it
will
make
it
into
this
budget
cycle
or
the
next
budget
cycle
for
full
implementation,
is
a
question.
But
I
think
that
it
would
be
fair
to
say
that
we
will
be
able
to
pull
it
apart
in
two
distinct,
separate
programmatic
offers.
L
You
councilmember
I
really
think
that
it's
a
true
prong
approach.
One
is
for
lack
of
a
better
description.
What
filtering
mechanisms
do
we
have
on
the
front
end
and
so
I
think
I
have
already
sat
down,
sir,
to
look
at
the
process
and
that
we
are
using
for
our
background
investigations,
how
in-depth
we
are
going
to
make
sure
that
we
are
properly
vetting
people
and
onboarding
the
right
officers
here
for
Boise,
not
just
from
a
background
sound
point
of.
L
Do
they
have
a
clean
criminal
record,
but
do
they
have
the
commitment
to
a
life
of
service?
Is
that
representing
the
contacts
that
we
have?
There
are
enough
people
that
want
to
come
and
work
at
this
great
city
and
in
this
great
Police
Department
that
we
can
afford
to
be
picky
I
intend
to
make
sure
that
we
are
the
second
part
of
that
is
really
to
make
sure
that
we
are
removing
on
intentional
barriers.
L
L
Look
at
the
content
of
character
over
whether
or
not
somebody
could
achieve
an
education,
especially
given
the
cost
and
barriers
it
RUP
since
in
this
day
and
age,
and
then
really
used
the
Boise
Police
Department
as
a
vehicle
for
them
to
become
some
of
the
first
people
in
their
family
to
earn
that
college
education
I
think
that
it's
a
prime
opportunity
to
bring
in
the
right
people
it's
the
organization
we're
seeing
a
generational
turnover
in
policing
throughout
the
United
States.
There
is
probably
no
better
time
to
introduce
that
concept.
L
D
You
chief
masca
follow
up
madam
mayor
as
I've
shared
with
my
colleagues
over
the
last
two
and
a
half
years.
I
never
received
training
for
this,
so
all
I
have
is
my
own
personal
experiences.
So
one
of
those
experiences
is
being
a
former
civil
rights
investigator
and
a
paralegal
working
with
victims
of
domestic
violence,
and
that
is
an
issue
that
we
have
all
over
our
country.
D
Unfortunately,
these
gentlemen
were
facilitated
in
evading
justice
and
continuing
to
victimize
their
victims.
I
can't
forget
that,
and
what
it
reminds
me
of
in
terms
of
a
bigger
issue
is
how
do
we?
What
is
the
plan
for
when
there
is
someone
who
has
managed
to
join
our
police
force?
Who
is
not
a
good
fit,
and
how
is
another
police
officer
able
to
stand
in
his
or
her
integrity
and
bring
that
to
the
attention
of
you
or
of
internal
affairs?
To
address
that?
D
You
know
it
may
seem
not
connected,
but
I
connect
it
back
to
the
community
member
who
I
told
you
about.
It
was
very
afraid
to
bring
it
to
the
attention
to
the
mayor
and
the
police,
the
police
chief
of
the
neighboring
city,
but
she
did
it
so
I.
Imagine
there
might
be
fear
if
it's
your
colleague
if
it's
somebody
that
you
work
alongside,
but
that
you
know,
is
not
acting
with
integrity
and
it's
not
fulfilling
the
mission
of
the
bad.
L
So
there's
really
multiple
prongs,
so
that
one
is
to
have
clear
policy
that
requires
people
to
report
when
they
see
what
they
believe
is
illegal
and
or
on
ethical
conduct
to
their
supervisor.
That's
that's!
Really,
the
frankly.
That's
a
compliance
baseline
level
that
we
should
seek
there's.
Obviously,
policy,
that's
written
that
would
allow
us
to
address
conduct
through
internal
affairs
as
appropriate.
I
have
no
appetite
for
people
that
wish
to
engage
in
criminal
activity
and
wear
the
same
uniform
our
badges
I.
Do
it
there's
no
desire
for
those
people
to
be
in
this
profession.
L
L
Sometimes
those
will
call
them
flaws
and
character
may
not
manifest
in
a
way
that
would
allow
us
to
address
it
via
policy
or
via
internal
affairs,
but
there's
the
hint
of
it
and
the
ability
to
leave
laterally
to
hold
your
peers
accountable
to
recognize
that
their
reputation
and
how
they
perform
both
on
and
off
duty
could
potentially
tarnish
your
name.
Your
reputation
as
legitimacy
of
the
greater
department
and
harm
the
city
that
you're
sworn
to
protect.
D
I
This
is
a
great
department.
It
has
been
for
a
long
time,
but
on
the
wall
behind
you,
you'll
see
there's
one
of
our
values
that
says:
there's
nothing.
We
can't
do
better
and
I
think
you've
already
embodied
that
I
guess.
My
question
to
you
is:
have
you
been
thinking
about
what
kind
of
outreach
you
might
do
in
the
next
few
months
to
begin
to
develop
some
of
those
ideas,
hand
in
hand
with
the
community
about
ways
to
reach
that
value.
L
Hopefully
we
get
to
a
point
where
I
can
begin
to
meet
with
more
people
and
connect
with
more
folks
and
invite
them
to
the
table.
I
think
when
we
start
to
talk
about
things
such
as
the
policy
input,
one
of
the
one
of
the
approaches
that
significant
that
we
have
to
do
is
that
our
it's
not
enough
for
us
to
simply
look
at
best
practices
in
reasonable.
L
We
revised
our
policy
manual,
it's
essential
that
we
post
them
for
public
input
and
I
realize
that
there
are
some
accessibility
to
technology
that
might
limit
some
people
from
contributing,
but
I
think
by
posting
for
public
input.
Hearing
insight
about
how
our
internal
governance,
our
policies
are
reflecting
on
what
the
desires
of
the
community
are
and
as
appropriate,
making
those
adjustments.
That
would
be
a
significant
change
over
the
current
approach
and
would
be
a
convenient
way
to
help
engage
the
public
as
we
start
to
search
and
improve
an
already
high-performing
organization.
Okay,.
A
L
Think,
regardless
of
which
political
position
you
may
have
it's
a
constitutional
right
to
be
able
to
exercise
your
right
to
free
speech
and
it's
incumbent
upon
the
police
to
be
able
to
protect
that
whether
or
not
you
agree
with
what
somebody
may
or
may
not
be
saying.
You
should
definitely
be
free
of
violence,
and
so
to
that
and
there
will
be
a
much
more
robust
police
presence.
Next
Tuesday,
we
have
formed
protests
liaison
or
demonstration
liaison
officers
that
are
out
reaching
to
the
organizers
of
the
events
to
try
and
ensure
that
they
understand
why.
L
There's
an
increased
police
presence,
we're
examining
the
opportunity
to
have
free
speech
zones
that
can
help
for
lack
of
a
better
description,
separate
people
that
lump
into
largely
opposing
political
viewpoints,
although
even
in
that
the
groups
are
not
entirely
homogeneous.
There
are
people
that
wish
to
carry
forwards
very
legitimate,
lawful
advocates
for
change,
and
then
there
are
those
are
seeking
other
other
action.
L
We
want
to
make
sure
that
those
that
would
not
wish
to
remain
lawful,
give
me
exercise
and
addressed
appropriately
as
necessary
about
the
police,
so
without
devoting
a
variety
of
tactics
that
will
be
employing.
Rest
assured
that
we'll
have
a
much
more
robust
presence
and
I
think
that
people
in
this
city
and
in
this
nation
have
a
right
to
free
speech.
They
have
a
right
to
be
free
of
violence
while
exercising
that,
and
we
will
endeavour
to
do
our
best
to
make
sure
that
happens.
A
A
Now
bye-bye
city
code,
the
office
of
police
oversight
is
required
to
submit
semiannual
reports
to
the
City
Council
and
the
mayor
to
file
and
then
submit,
and
so
in
accordance
with
that
and
we've
asked
the
office
to
join
us
tonight
to
delineate
the
investigations
and
actions
taken
and
to
I
would
encourage
that
you
all
just
if
you've
got
questions,
ask
them
during
the
presentation
so
that
it
all
flows
so
that
we
can
have
a
conversation.
This
is
a
really
important
by
the
public
standards
and
I
believe
by
our
commitment
to
ensuring
I'm,
independent
oversight.
A
M
But
then
we
called
on
them
buds
men
to
put
together
an
idea
to
do
oversight
in
the
City
of
Boise
and
as
a
result,
they
came
up
with
a
model
which
is
called
a
hybrid
model
in
oversight.
There
are
a
lot
of
very
variations
of
oversight,
and
so
sometimes
you
have
citizen
panels,
and/or
commissions.
Sometimes
you
have
one
department
that
does
audits
other
times.
You
have
a
combination
and
with
some
citizen
oversight
they
don't
have
the
authority
to
investigate
and
some
are
only
called
in
when
something
happens.
M
So
this
this
particular
model
that
we
now
use
right
now
is
hybrid,
which
combines
all
of
that.
So
it's
an
independent
investigation.
It
is
a
review
and
an
audit,
so
we
have
the
authority
to
review
policy
procedures,
directives,
etc.
We
also
have
an
opportunity
to
audit
internal
affairs
to
make
sure
that
internal
affairs
investigations
are
thorough,
fair
and
objective,
and
so
that's
just
part
of
what
what
was
created
and
just
a
little
bit
of
background
to
that.
This
model
has
been
recognized
across
the
country
by
various
cities
who
are
looking
towards
creating
their
own
oversight.
M
So
as
examples
Austin
Texas
has
been
in
touch
with
us
to
revamp
their
oversight.
Rapid
City
South,
Dakota
Chicago
has
contacted
us
and
King
County
and
if
you
look
at
all
of
those
cities,
they've
had
starts
and
stops
of
some
type
of
oversight.
And
one
thing:
that's
a
credit
to
the
City
of
Boise
is
their
office
of
police
oversight
has
been
in
existence
since
1999
and
has
not
really
ever
changed
or
stopped.
M
We
did
have
a
opportunity
to
change
it
with
the
office
of
police
oversight
from
the
Ombudsman's
office,
the
office
of
police
oversight
and
the
city
made
a
decision
to
make
it
part-time,
but
it
never
really
stopped.
It's
always
continued
to
be
part
of
the
city
and
part
of
being
responsive
to
the
community.
So
with
that
I
just
I
also
provided
you
with
some
information
about
the
staff
and
right
now,
I'm
part
time.
M
My
investigators
and
I
are
on
call
24/7
365
days
a
year,
so
I'm
sometimes
called
to
do
work
at
night
I'm.
Some
kind
call
to
do
work
early
in
the
morning,
but
we
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
get
the
job
done
so
I'm
going
to
move
really
quickly
over
to
our
annual
report.
You're
following
the
presentation,
you
finally
got
my
page
five
of
the
other
slides
from
January
to
June
2020.
We
have
a
total
of
23
cases
filed
with
our
office.
M
M
So
there's
lots
of
examples
like
that
and
I'm
I'm
glad
that,
with
our
new
leadership
in
the
department
we're
going
to
continue
to
prioritize
the
escalation
community,
policing
and
relational
policing,
we
have
we've
had
eight
information.
Only
cases
filed
and
twelve
inquiry
investigations
opened
up.
So
that's
a
total
of
23
and
comparing
that
to
the
number
of
citizen
complaints
filed
by
the
with
the
Boise
Police
Department
internal
affairs,
they
are
at
ten
cases
so
they've
had
ten
citizen
complaints
between
January
and
June
of
2020.
We've
had
23.
M
M
Audit,
okay,
like
I,
said
we
have
a
tool
we
go
through
and
we
look
at
the
entire
investigation.
That's
been
done
and
we
in
fact
now
like
Chris,
is
actually
the
one
that
conducts.
M
N
You,
my
name,
is
Chris
Coons
and
I'm.
Actually,
the
analyst
for
the
office
of
police
oversight,
and
so
one
of
my
specific
duties
is
to
manage
our
auditing
functions.
So
to
answer
your
question:
council
member,
we
specifically
audit
all
Internal
Affairs
case
files,
so
all
investigations
done
by
the
Office
of
Internal
Affairs
for
the
Boise
Police
permit.
N
So
what
that
entails
is
all
citizen,
complaints
and
Department
initiated
investigation.
So
those
investigations
where
an
officer
might
bring
someone
else
forward
to
report
unethical
misconduct
and
whatnot,
and
so,
but
we
audit
those
to
make
sure
that
they're
complete,
thorough,
fair
and
objective.
So.
E
Pretty
familiar
with
financial
audits,
generalized
standards
of
accounting,
conceptual
professional
framework
for
how
to
check
in
cross-reference
and
verify
that
things
are
there?
Is
there
a
standard
for
policing,
audits
or
a
standard
for
Internal
Affairs
audits?
Or
is
this
we're
calling
it
an
audit
like
what
what
is
it
and
how
do
you
know
that
you
you've
been
thorough
or
that
your
did?
You
see
it
I'm
getting
up?
What
is
the
meat
of
what
is
actually
happening?
You're
here
so.
N
We
all
I
should
start
by
saying
that,
at
the
end
of
our
auditing
period,
we
publish
a
comprehensive
report
of
our
audits
and
the
methodology
behind
those
audits,
okay,
and
so
that's
on
our
website
as
well.
So
but
right
now,
contemporary
policing
oversight
is
in
a
state
of
flux
on
this
issue.
What
what
is
a
competent
audit
of
police
internal
affairs
for
us
here
in
Boise?
We
are
mandated
by
city
code
in
that
city
code
and
says
that
they're
complete
thoroughfare
and
objectives.
N
So
those
are
the
standards
that
we
look
for
and
we
have
specific
language
that
meets
each
of
those
criteria
yeah
in
our
auditing
tools.
So
our
investigators
in
our
office
and
myself
will
go
through
each
case.
File
and
measure
is
the
case
file
complete.
Does
it
have
all
the
necessary
items
that
a
complete
investigation
needs
to
have?
Is
it
thorough
have?
Has
the
investigation
met
the
standard
for
being
a
thorough
investigation?
You
know:
have
they
looked
under
every
stone
saw
every
witness
that
type
of
thing?
N
Is
it
fair
and
objective
and
we
kind
of
lump
those
into
the
same
thing,
even
though
they
are
two
different
things,
but
that's
the
portion
of
the
audit,
where
we're
making
sure
that
the
investigation
is
conducted
fairly,
there's
no
other
way
of
saying
it.
So
the
the
the
metrics
and
measurements
that
we
look
at
are
you
know.
E
M
If
I
might
add,
like
I
said,
we've
been
refining
these
because
the
auditors,
the
auditing
that
was
done
before
was-
was
very
different
and,
as
a
result,
I
had
the
office
of
police
oversight,
join
the
association
of
local
governmental
auditors
and
they
have
joined
with
some
police
departments
to
provide
training
to
just
focus
auditing
on
law
enforcement.
So
we
attend
those
trainings
and
we
stay
a
current
with
that
association
as
they
develop
more
tools
because,
as
I've
been
in
meetings
with
some
of
those
auditors,
this
is
an
evolving
type
of
aspect
of
auditing.
D
M
We
do
do
a
annual
report
and
that
one
that
was
prepared
at
the
end
of
last
year
and
then
we
we
have
done
annual
reports
and
semiannual
reports
and
I
will
say
that
our
office
works
so
independently
that
often
times
we
are
kind
of
the
last
in
the
loop
to
providing
to
be
provided
information
on
how
to
make
sure
everybody
gets
what
they
need
to
get.
So
we
may
file
it
and
put
it
up
on
the
website,
but
if
it
doesn't
get
to
you
all
that
that's
on
us
I
will.
D
M
2017,
it
was
2017
and
and
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
used
to
meet
with
the
mayor
on
a
quarterly
basis,
along
with
Jade
and
I,
would
provide
information
to
the
mayor
as
well.
So
that's
how
I
made
sure
that
there
was
some
information
going
back
and
forth
into
the
executive
office
and
that
that
was
the
system
that
we
had
and
obviously
we
are
open
to
the
our
art
front,
doors
open
to
everybody,
and
we
are
more
than
willing
to
my
reports
and
information
to
the
council
and
to
the
community.
So,
madam.
D
D
I
know
that
I
think
some
folks
were
surprised
to
learn
that
we
had
an
office
of
police
oversight.
I,
don't
know
what
to
attribute
that
to
Natalie,
but
you
know
that's
something
that
I
would
like
to
ask
about.
Will
there
be
plans
to
highlight
the
fact
that
we
do
have
this
office
and
that
people
can
make
use
of
it
and.
M
You're
you're,
absolutely
right,
that's
an
ongoing
thing
and
since
I've
started,
I
have
had
presentations
in
the
community
I.
Had
our
website
put
up
a
request
for
presentations
like
the
Boise
Police
Department
has
I
have
presented
at
the
universities
I've
presented
to
the
law.
Schools
I
have
presented
to
communities.
I've
I
have
asked
for
individuals
in
in
communities
in
churches.
M
If
they
want
me
to
come
and
present
I'm
more
than
happy
to
do
it,
I
just
presented
to
the
Lutheran
Church
the
other
day
and
the
media
and
the
media
has
finally
started
asking
me
more
questions
over
the
last
few
years.
I
think
there
was
some
changes
in
maybe
assignments
of
different
people,
working
for
media
outlets
and
so
I
would
get
sometimes
emails
and
say
what
are
you
guys
doing
and
are
you
still
getting
to
handle
things
this
way
or
the
way
you've
done
it
before
and
I
would
tell
it?
M
Yes,
that's
how
we're
doing
it
and
then,
and
then
I
wouldn't
hear
anything
about
else
from
them
and
that's
okay.
I
mean
we
have
I,
have
sent
out
invitations
and
said
that
we're
here,
we're
willing
to
present
I
speak
to
influencers
in
communities.
I've
heard
back
from
people
that
say
well,
we
know
you're
there
Natalie,
we
know
who
you
are
and
if
people
are
community
and
needs
you
will
will
reach
out
to
you.
So
I
get
a
lot
of
that.
M
Another
thing
that
I
do
is
I,
have
people
in
the
community
because
I've
been
around
for
so
long
and
done
so
much
work
with
the
nonprofit
world
and
if
I
hear
an
inkling
of
a
complaint
about
something
happening
that
community
involving
the
police
department,
especially
if
it
involves
profiling
or
bias.
I
pick
up
the
phone
and
I
start
calling
my
tree.
My
connections,
whether
they're
people
work
with
youth
people
work
with
college
students,
people
work
with
businesses
and
I
start
asking
them.
M
What
are
you
hearing
on
the
street
and
people
don't
tell
me
and
with
the
last
chief
of
police
he
and
I
had
that
kind
of
relationship
where
we
would
give
each
other
a
heads
up,
I'm
hearing
this.
What
are
you
hearing
and
then
we
would
meet
and
figure
out
a
plan
or
my
office
would
open
a
complaint
depending
on
whether
we
had
specifics
from
the
individuals.
M
So
we
kind
of
work
with
tentacles
because
each
one
of
my
investigators
and
members
of
my
team
we
all
live
in,
circulate
in
certain
parts
of
the
community,
and
so
we
get
intelligence.
That
way
we
get
reports
about
what's
going
on
in
certain
parts
of
the
community
and
what
are
people
thinking,
I've,
gotten
phone
calls
at
10
o'clock
at
night
from
anonymous
people
saying
I,
have
this
concern
and
would
you
be
willing
to
meet
with
somebody?
D
M
M
However,
I
still
get
phone
calls
for
a
lot
of
different
questions
and
I
will
tell
you
that
we
take
that
very
can
seriously,
because
we
are
representative
of
the
City
of
Boise,
and
so,
if
people
call
me
and
they've
been
getting
the
runaround
from
wherever,
and
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
Boise,
Police
Department
or
even
Boise
I
still
make
sure
that
I
get
them
to
a
place
of
someone
who
can
help
them
and
I'll.
Tell
you
the
other
night
I
was
working
out
in
the
gym.
M
It
was
10:30
at
night
and
I
got
a
phone
call.
I
took
the
call,
and
it
was
somebody
from
San
Francisco
who
had
a
family
member.
Here
it
was
having
a
mental
crisis
and
it
took
listening.
I
thought.
Maybe
it
had
to
do
with
the
Boise
Police
Department
in
a
mental
hold,
but
it
took
an
hour
conversation
to
determine
that
it
was
really
something
that
needed
to
be
handed
off
to
the
Veterans
Affairs.
A
E
M
Place
that
has
something
that
I
have
been
concerned
since
day.
One
of
how
do
we
measure
our
effectiveness
and
whether
we're
doing
what
we
need
to
do
initially,
the
Boise,
Police
Department
and
the
performance
evaluation
got
together
to
do
a
survey
and
they
included
questions
from
us
to
try
and
get
a
gauge
for
what
was
the
expectation
of
our
office
and
how
could
then
we
could
work
on
a
framework
on
how
to
measure
that
and
unfortunately,
that
that
analysis
really
ended
up
not
being
too
helpful.
M
M
I
think
this
is
an
important
job.
I
agreed
to
apply
for
this
position,
because
I
was
one
of
the
community
members
that
met
with
the
former
mayor
and
said
I'm
concerned
that
you're
making
this
part-time,
and
it
was
after
that
that
he
invited
me
to
apply
for
the
job
and
I
thought.
I'll
put
my
money
where
my
mouth
is
and
I'll
apply
for
the
job,
because
I
think
it's
that
important
on
a
national
level,
the
oversight
profession
napal,
which
is
a
national
organization,
National
Association
of
citizen
oversight
of
law
enforcement.
M
E
A
M
And
let
me
explain
that
when
I
use
everything
that
comes
into
my
office
for
the
community
to
understand,
I,
consider
that
a
complaint
but
there's
also
terms
of
art
described
under
our
ordinances.
That
category
raises
a
complaint,
so
you
might
have
an
information,
only
an
inquiry
and
then
a
complaint
and
those
are
more
terms
of
art
on
how
we
categorize
and
how
we
do
the
investigation.
But
in
terms
of
a
complaint
that
a
citizen
has
a
concern,
they
come
to
my
office
I.
A
M
M
The
next
thing
I
just
want
to
move
real
quickly
to
the
other
part
of
what
we
do
and
I,
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
realize,
but
when
I
agreed
to
take
this
job,
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
I've
said
to
the
public
and
to
the
police
officers
that
I
come
from
a
long
history
of
advocacy
and
as
an
advocate
for
communities
of
color,
and
whenever
things
would
happen,
whether
it
was
a
national
or
a
local
and
something
would
happen,
a
bad
interaction
with
law
enforcement.
I
know
I
would
ask.
M
Why
did
that
happen
and
sitting
in
my
groups
in
my
community,
we
would
have
conversations
about.
Why
did
that
happen,
and
there
were
times
if
something
else
happened
again?
Why
does
this
keep
happening?
And
so
I
came
to
this
office?
Thinking
I
want
to
get
to
the
wise
this.
These
things
happen
and
being
an
attorney
and,
having
done
a
lot
of
work,
I
call
it
prevention
work
which
is
I,
do
litigation,
but
then
I
advise
my
clients
as
to
how
do
you?
How
do
you
prevent
getting
into
litigation
so
prevention?
M
So
prevention
was
important
for
me
to
start
looking
and
examining
the
police
department
and
its
actions
to
determine
how
do
we
dig
deep
into
whether
it's
training,
whether
it's
to
hiring,
whether
it's
to
culture,
to
change
it?
So
those
things
don't
happen
again
and
going
to
a
national
conference
with
Nicole.
They
were
starting
to
talk
about
that
as
well,
and
so
they
put
a
name
to
it
and
they
call
it
front-end
oversight
versus
back-end
oversight.
Backend
oversight
is
you're
investigating
when
there's
already
a
problem
and
there's
been
a
complaint
front.
End
is
all
about
prevention.
M
So
let
me
give
you
a
couple
of
examples
of
what
we've
done
and
I'm
glad
that
you've
spoke
before
I
did
because
he
talked
a
little
bit
about
hiring
practices.
That
was
one
of
the
first
things
that
I
taught
to
the
command
staff
about,
because
I
have
heard
for
many
many
many
years
from
many
different
law
enforcement
agencies.
M
But
we
don't
have
that
many
Latino
police
officers
I
get
I,
don't
used
to
get
that
question
all
the
time,
all
the
time
from
different
police
departments,
and
so
this
is
my
opportunity
to
sit
down
with
law
enforcement
and
say,
walk
me
through
your
recruitment
and
hiring
process,
and
we
talked
about
recruitment
and
I
said.
If
you
continue
to
do
the
same
type
of
recruitment,
your
numbers
are
not
going
to
change,
so
we
have
to
start
talking
about
how
to
be
more
creative
in
how
we
do
recruitment
where
we
recruit
and
how
we
recruit.
M
And
then
we
talked
about
the
process.
I
wanted
to
know
about
the
testing
I
wanted
to
know
about
the
process
of
interviews.
What
types
of
questions
were
there
any
obstacles
that
were
preventing
people
that
we
wanted
to
to
being
successful
in
being
hired
at
the
police
department,
and
so
with
some
help
with
HR
and
with
the
Boise
Police
Department.
One
of
the
things
that
changed
was
we
used
to
make
the
candidate
pay
for
taking
the
test
to
be
qualified
to
be
police
officer,
and
that
was
a
couple
hundred
dollars.
M
M
E
Your
office
have
written
work
product
outlining
recommendations
along
these
lines:
how
to
improve
recruitment,
how
to
improve
Dei
sort
of
cultural
acceptability
in
our
in
our
Police
Department.
How
to
improve
policing
you
have
any.
Does
your
office
have
any
written
recommendations
along
the
lines
or
the
work
you
just
described?
No.
M
It's
it's
not
something
that
we
well.
We've
put
it
in
the
police
report
on
yirat
annual
reports,
explaining
the
steps
that
we
have
been
taking
on
the
front
end
issues.
If
you
will
so
it's
kind
of
an
ongoing
report
out
in
my
executive
summary
of
those
types
of
works
that
I've
been
doing,
and
so
anyway,
I
did
introduce
the
idea
of
diversity,
equity,
inclusion
to
the
Chief
of
Police.
We
did
talk
about
starting
with
our
diversity,
equity
inclusion
statement,
I
drafted
guidelines
to
have
the
discussion.
M
We
were
in
the
process
of
trying
to
identify
who
would
be
on
that
committee
and
then,
as
this
city
decided
that
they
wanted
to
do
something
on
a
citywide
scale.
So
we
we
didn't
continue
just
with
the
Boise
Police
Department
on
that.
But
it's
constantly
a
conversation
with
internal
affairs.
Who's
usually
held
accountable
to
making
sure
those
those
actions
occur.
E
Outside
you
don't
need
to
have
the
work
product,
but
outside
of
written
material,
do
you
have
any
specific
recommendations
for
ways
that
we
can
improve
hiring
practices?
Cultural
awareness
acceptability,
concrete,
specific
things
that
we
could
do
in
the
next
six
months,
that
from
all
this
time
and
all
this
work
you've
been
doing,
you
can
point
to
and
say
this
would
achieve
our
objectives.
M
M
Not
I
mean
I
think
the
recommendations
up
in
my
head
and
in
it
come
out
of
the
conversations
that
I
have
with
a
cheap,
but
with
the
chief
and
the
Internal
Affairs,
but
I
haven't
said
I
haven't
is
written
down.
Here
are
my
recommendations.
It's
just
an
ongoing
process
that
we
work
together
to
identify
where
the,
where
there's
problems
and
to
figure
out
where
how
we
can
fix
it.
So
thank.
M
I
Yes,
council
president,
thank
you
Thank
You
Natalie
for
being
here
today.
I
think
this
is
a
good
good
place
for
a
question
that
I've
been
wanting
to
ask
I've,
been
reviewing
your
reports
online
and
and
reviewing
the
ordinance
that
guides
your
work
and-
and
it
appears
to
me,
given
my
experience
on
city
council
over
years,
that
we
have
lost
something
out
of
this
office.
I
I
The
office
of
police
oversight
shall
develop
specific
recommendations
as
to
policies,
procedures,
practices
and
training
of
City
police
officers
and
police
employees,
goals
and
recommendations
and
make
those
recommendations
to
the
Chief
of
Police,
the
mayor
and
the
City
Council
as
appropriate,
and
it
seems
to
me,
as
I,
have
read
through
the
reports
and
now
as
you're,
offering
your
perspective
today.
That
you've
been
doing
a
lot
of
thinking
about
those
kinds
of
recommendations.
I
But
we
haven't
had
a
formal
process
for
you
to
bring
them
to
us
and
for
us
to
think
through
them
together,
so
that
we
can
make
policy
change
driven
by
the
City
Council,
and
certainly
some
policy
change
can
happen
internally,
but
I
think
sometimes
with
bigger
things.
The
direction
of
the
City
Council
can
be
really
valuable
in
both
raising
the
profile
of
that
change
and
also
ensuring
that
it
is
fully
internalized
and
so
I
have.
I
My
question
to
you
is:
have
you
been
thinking
about
a
process
or
a
better
way
for
your
office
to
communicate
not
just
with
the
police
department,
not
just
with
the
mayor,
but
also
with
the
City
Council?
And
what
is
it
especially
in
this
time
when
things
are,
you
know
so
fragile
if
you
will
around
policing
issues?
What
is
that
we
could
do
together,
maybe
to
both
raise
a
profile
of
your
office,
but
determine
those
policy
recommendations
in
a
in
a
really
transparent
way?
Have
you
have
you
been
thinking
about
that
at
all
I'm?
Actually,.
M
M
The
resources
that
we
have
it's
it's
it's
been
a
challenge,
but
I
I,
don't
see
that
there
is
any
reason
why
I
couldn't
have
the
same
kind
of
conversations
that
I've
had
with
the
chief
I've
had
with
previous
mayor's
office
with
the
council.
I.
Think
it's
a
great
idea,
I
think
it's
important,
I
I
think
I
appreciate
what
you
just
said,
but
I
also
think
that
it's
important
to
know
that
I'm
heavily
involved
in
the
community
and
that
my
work
also
I,
do
talk
to
lots
of
people
in
the
community.
M
M
I
have
a
career
of
working
on
that,
and
this
is
a
moment
that
is
very
special
because
I
see
people
and
in
the
communities
that
may
not
have
ever
really
thought
about
these
issues
before
coming
and
paying
attention
to
what
the
community
wants
and
what
they
need.
And
so
the
more
people
talking
about
these
issues
and
coming
up
with
innovative
ideas.
The
better.
A
Council
president
I'm
happy
to
do
that
and
I'd
point
out.
The
ordinance
is
clear
that
the
office
reports
to
both
mayor
and
council
and
that
there
are
to
be
semiannual
reports
that
detail
what's
happened,
but
also
recommendations,
and
so
just
institutionalizing
that
for
transparency
and
accountability
to
the
public,
is
an
important
first
step.
Thank
you.
G
J
A
mayor
real
quickly,
I
want
to
just
voice
my
support
for
that
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
the
office
of
police
oversight
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
it's
more
visible
to
the
community
and
folks
who
don't
know
that
we
have
such
an
office
and
I
apologize.
I
forgot
my
computer
charger
I'm,
not
in
Boise
right
now,
and
so
my
computer
is
going
to
die
so
I'm
going
to
drop
out
of
the
rest
of
the
meeting.
But
thank
you
Natalie
and
your
staff
for
preparing
this
and
coming
before
us
tonight.
M
M
I
would
really
like
to
just
wrap
this
up
by
saying
in
this
last
month,
my
office
has
been
very
busy
not
only
just
being
on
the
phone
with
community
members,
but
also
doing
research
and
because
I
have
been
so
active
in
a
lot
of
these
issues
regionally
and
in
the
state
and
and
nationwide
I
have
a
lot
of
contacts
with
people
who
are
in
the
movement.
So
I
have
been
receiving
updates
since
the
day
after
mr.
M
Floyd's
death
about
where
communities
are
and
what
they're
expecting
and
so
I've
been
able
to
look
at
some
of
the
recommendations
and
proposals
and
starting
to
look
at
ordinances
and
legislation
and
policy
that
may
be
pending
on
local
level
state
level,
as
well
as
federal
and
also
sitting
in
on
meetings
with
Nicole.
Talking
about
these
issues
and
oversight,
and
also
I'm,
a
member
of
the
police
executive
forum.
M
So
I've
been
sitting
in
on
town
halls,
which
she's
the
police
across
the
country
talking
about
the
impact
of
potential
changes
coming
forward
and
what
are
the
expectations
of
their
communities?
And
it's
been
very
informative
to
be
able
to
listen
to
police
officers
on
one
side
and
listen
to
the
activists
calling
for
change
on
this
side
and
and
listening
to
people
in
the
community
that
it
might
not
be
in
the
streets
but
have
an
opinion
and
and
are
not
quite
sure
how
to
express
that
opinion,
but
want
to
express
that
they
support.
M
You
know
the
changes
that
we
all
know
are
going
to
come,
and
so
it's
it's
been
a
good
place
to
be
in
the
middle,
because
what
I'm
hearing
is
there
is
some
middle
ground
where
communities
and
law
enforcement
and
municipalities
and
counties
and
states
can
find
some
middle
of
the
road
where
we
can
address
some
of
the
social
issues
that
are
really
the
underlying
motivation
for
people.
Calling
for
change
right
now.
H
Natalie
great
to
see
I
think
the
last
time
we
saw
each
other
was
on
chief
Lee's,
now,
chief
lease
interview,
so
I
think
we
picked
a
good
one.
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
with
what
council
president
clay
brought
up
as
far
as
the
the
need
for
some
of
these
semiannual
reports,
I
think
councilmember
Sanchez
brought
that
up
as
well
and
I.
H
Guess
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
curious
about
is
the
the
actual
reporting
itself
and
I
probably
should
have
brought
this
up
on
slide
five,
but
you
were
saying
that
there
was
23
cases
filed
for
matters
so
far
during
2020
and
one
of
the
the
categories
there
is
information
only
and
it
shows
eight,
and
so,
when
I,
when
I
was
reading
through
the
memo.
My
understanding
of
that
information
only
was
that
somebody
calls
up
you're
able
to
solve
the
problem
or
kind
of.
H
C
H
M
But
if
we
have
to
take
some
time
to
have
the
person
on
the
phone
and
start
doing
some
reviewing
of
some
records
or
to
get
more
information
from
them
to
determine
whether
this
is
something
that
was
in
our
jurisdiction
or
not,
then
we
will
open
as
an
information
only
because
we
had
to
take
time
to
do
some
of
that
digging.
But
we
can
resolve
it
one
way
or
the
other
we
we
get.
M
H
Married
to
follow
up
with
that
Thank
You
Natalie.
So
if
so,
for
example,
last
Tuesday
somebody
gets
hit
by
a
protester
or
or
in
this
case
an
anti
protester,
and
they
don't
feel
comfortable
calling
the
police
about
it.
So
they
called
the
office
of
police
oversight
and
in
that
situation
and
I,
don't
know
if
this
happen
or
not
I
thought
that
Diggs
I
thought
that
there
were
I
know.
H
M
For
something
like
that,
especially
something
that
I
knew
was
happening
if
they
call
and
say
I
had
an
interaction
with
Boise
Police
Department
that
triggers
us
to
do
a
formal
intake,
and
that
becomes
an
inquiry
initially
until
we
can
figure
out
what
the
facts
are.
What
documentation?
There
is
what
we
can
figure
out
happened,
and
then
we
can
recategorize
it
as
a
complaint
if
we
feel
that
we
need
to
bring
in
the
officers
and
interview
them
and
that
usually
triggers
their
attorneys
to
also
get
involved.
So
no
in
that
situation
it
will
become
an
intake.
H
Mary
Natalie
I
appreciate
you
answering
that
question
that
was
informative
and
helpful.
It
wasn't
quite
what
I
tried
to
ask
and-
and
that's
I,
don't
think
I
asked
it
correctly,
so
somebody
has
something
that
they
want
to
report,
but
they
don't
feel
comfortable,
calling
the
police
about
it
because
they
don't
feel
safe
for
whatever
reason
and
they're
calling
the
office
of
police
oversight.
I
would
imagine
that
you
get
some
of
those
calls.
My
get
my
question
is
either
one:
how
do
we
handle
them
and
I
guess
to
where
do
they
fall?
As
far
as
these?
M
As
I
said,
if
they
become
a
if
they
identify
Boise
police
officer,
a
specific
incident
within
our
timeframe,
we
open
up
a
file
and
that's
what
you
would
see
initially
as
an
inquiry
and
like
I
said
as
we
investigate
and
if
it
becomes
an
issue
that
we
need
to
change
it
to
a
complaint.
It
will
then
come
up
as
a
complaint.
So
those
are
those
are
calculated
in
the
numbers
that
you're
seeing
right
now
did
I
answer
your
question.
I
know.
H
And-
and
maybe
this
maybe
this
isn't
quite
where
these
questions
are
supposed
to
go
from
the
community
I
I'm,
not
saying
that
an
officer
has
done
anything
wrong,
I'm
saying
that
one
person
from
the
public
has
done
something
wrong
to
another
to
the
public
and
that's
her
was
wrong.
That
person
who
was
assaulted,
who
is
uncomfortable,
contacting
the
police
for
a
variety
of
different
reasons,
not
because
the
police
did
anything
or
that
officer,
but
just
because
of
other
reasons,
excuse.
E
M
Well,
we
always
tell
people
that
we
are
not
part
of
the
police
department,
because
sometimes
that
does
worry
me
that
people
call
and
they
need
police
assistance
immediately,
I've
been
known
to
help
them
facilitate
that
call
if
they
need
to.
But
if
it's
something
like
how
you
just
described
it,
that's
the
kind
of
conversation
that
I
would
have
with
the
Chief
of
Police
directly
and
say.
This
is
what
I'm
being
told
and
I
need
to
know.
M
If
there
is
going
to
be
an
investigation,
I
cannot
investigate
a
crime
that
is
not
within
my
jurisdiction,
so
I
need
to
make
sure
that
the
police
is
being
responsive
to
the
community.
When
there
is
a
safety
issue,
I
have
had
those
types
of
conversations
with
neighborhoods
who
are
concerned
about
activity
in
their
neighborhoods
that
are
afraid
to
make
an
individual
complaint,
or
they
don't
know
who
to
make
a
complaint
about
that.
B
M
I
appreciate
that
council
person,
thomsonite
and
I
actually
have
a
private
practice
and
I've
changed
my
practice
considerably,
just
so
that
I
can
give
the
time
that
I
need
to
this
particular
job.
So
I
know
that
my
investigators
are
very
committed
people,
they
truly
believe
in
accountability
and
they
believe
in
providing
public
service
and
I
pushed
them
pretty
hard
and
I
know
they're
they're,
wonderful
people,
and
they
will
do
anything
that
I
asked
them
to
do
wherever
I
asked
them
to
do
it
when
I
asked
them
to
do
it
very
responsive.
M
He
does
a
lot
of
backup
for
the
investigators
as
well,
so
we
try
to
stretch
our
20
hours
to
be
able
to
be
accessible
to
the
community
before
coveted
and
now
that
we're
facing
Koval
and
distancing
I
really
had
to
step
up
my
game
to
answering
the
phone
calls
and
all
the
calls
roll
over
to
my
cell
phone
so
try
to
make
sure
I
get
to
them.
When
I
can.