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From YouTube: City Council Work Session - 8/25/2020
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A
A
First
up,
it
looks
like
steve
burgos
has
joined
us
from
his
basement
behind.
B
C
Yes,
not
a
question,
but
a
comment.
The
memos
that
we've
received
that
we're
talking
about
we've
gotten
a
couple
emails
about
this
are
available
on
the
city's
website
and
can
be
found
there.
So
the
people
who
are
looking
for
them
or
want
to
know
what
the
council's
homework
is,
can
go
online
and
find
it.
D
Madam
mayor,
yes
again
not
a
question
but
just
a
comment.
I
want
to
thank
haley
and
steve
for
walking
through
some
of
those
earlier
and
and
really
providing
a
lot
of
information
and
responding
to
our
resident
concerns
that
we've
seen
so
far
as
we
embark
on
our
water
renewal
plan.
So
I
just
want
to
commend
their
work
on
that.
A
Well,
it
looks
like
you
both
got
off
easy,
but
not
really,
because
those
memos
have
been
encyclopedias.
That
you've
been
writing
thanks
for
being
here,
and
we
will
see
you
again
soon.
I'm
sure.
E
Yeah
we're
on
next
next
tuesday,
mayor
for
the
recommended
approach.
E
A
F
Good
afternoon,
madame
mayor
members
of
city
council,
I
believe
you've
had
a
chance
to
review
the
interim
budget
changes.
However,
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
on
item
number
four
for
the
hayman
house,
there
was
a
slight
reduction
in
the
request.
F
The
request
is
for
ninety
seven
thousand
nine
hundred
fifty
dollars
it's
just
a
as
a
result
of
a
late
payment
that
came
through
for
the
fire
station
nine,
but
other
than
that
everything
else.
I
can
stand
for
questions
if
needed.
A
C
B
A
Clegg,
council
president,
we
can
see
you
talking,
it
looks
like
you're,
not
you're
unsubstituted.
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Sorry?
Okay,
I
think
you
voted
yes
correct.
Yes,.
G
A
And
next
up
we
have
the
quarterly
report
presentation
everyone.
There
is,
of
course,
an
online
version
that
you
could
link
through
from
the
agenda,
but
I
think
if
you've
come
through
the
office
there,
you
had
a
hard
copy
as
well
hi
mike
thanks
for
joining
us.
E
Yes,
good
afternoon,
man
of
mayor
council,
members
of
the
council-
yes,
the
third
quarter
financial
report-
I
think
you
may
have
just
gotten
the
books
today.
The
electronic
copy
is
in
the
agenda
packet,
but
this
is
what
the
cover
looks
like.
E
And,
as
usual,
I
have
a
few
slides
to
go
through
and
we're
also
going
to
give
you
some
view
of
our
forecast
for
the
year
general
funds,
starting
with
revenues.
E
We
have
a
number
of
things
that
are
moving,
but
all
in
all
things
are
looking
acceptable.
Given
the
sudden
recession,
property
tax
has
held
up
quite
well
it's
slightly
behind
last
year,
but
it's
pretty
much
where
it
normally
is.
Sales
tax
has
held
up
exceptionally
well,
given
the
the
sudden
recession,
we
actually
project
it
to
be
a
little
over
budget.
The
budget
was
a
little
conservative
and
did.
E
Include
a
slight
possibility
of
recession,
which
has
happened,
development
fees
we
also
project
to
be
slightly
over
budget.
The
year
started
very
strong
and
then
it
has
slowed,
but
it's
still
doing
doing
quite
well.
E
E
General
fund
expenditures,
when
we
look
at
this
at
a
high
level,
we've
done
quite
well
with
some
cost
savings,
we're
ahead
of
where
we
were
last
year.
When
you
look
at
just
some
some
trends
and
some
numbers,
we've
still
got
some
vacancies.
The
organization
has
made
efforts
to
reduce
costs,
and
so
we
we've
done
well
there
and
we
also
have
pandemic
related
costs
that
are
in
there
that
we've
had
to
bear
so.
The
next
slide
now
gets
into
where
we
think
we're
going
to
end
the
year.
E
We've
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
working
with
the
departments
and
the
finance
managers,
and
look
particularly
close
at
different
accounting
units
within
parks
and
when
we
look
at
roughly
a
three
to
four
million
revenue
shortfall
in
parks,
and
then
we
offset
that
with
some
above
budget
revenues
projected
for
development
fees,
sales,
tax
and
liquor
tax
and
throw
in
a
number
of
other
things,
we
think
will
be
about
four
or
five
million
down
for
the
year
in
revenues.
E
So
again,
that's
that
is
an
acceptable
result.
Given
what
we
first
thought
might
happen
and
some
revenues
have
been
held
holding
up
quite
well,
then
we
look
at
expense
savings
given
organizational
efforts
there
and
vacancies
and
other
things
we
actually
project
we'll
be
in
the
8
to
10
million
dollar
range
for
expense
savings,
and
that
would
be
even
higher
if
we
didn't
have
pandemic
expenses
that
we've
we've
been
paying.
So
just
on
our
net
position
on
revenues
and
expenses,
we
expect
will
be
in
the
four
to
five
million
dollar
range.
E
E
Then
we
also
have
projected
federal
reimbursement
under
the
cares,
act
and
other
federal
reimbursement
programs
right
now.
We're
projecting
that
to
be
in
the
two
to
three
million
dollar
range.
So
from
a
net
forecast,
we
think
we'll
be
in
the
six
to
eight
million
dollar
range.
When
we
report
back
with
the
year-end
report
in
three
months.
E
E
These
three
graphs
show
idaho
and
the
nation
for
the
april
may
and
june,
and
you
can
see
with
the
initial
economic
shock
and
then
some
improvement
each
month
since
boise
for
july
we're
at
five
points.
Our
june
we
were
5.7
percent
and
the
rest
of
idaho
was
actually
a
little
bit
better
than
that
and
then
notice.
E
The
country
as
a
whole
is
more
than
twice
that
at
11,
so
we've
not
been
affected
as
much
as
the
rest
of
the
country,
and
then
we
just
saw
a
preliminary
reading
for
july
and
boise's
unemployment
has
come
down
to
5.1
percent,
so
this
has
been
better
than
I
expected.
I
think
some
of
it
is.
There
were
just
a
number
of
vacancies.
E
E
E
E
And
then,
comparing
our
june
unemployment
for
our
metropolitan
statistical
area
to
other
western
cities,
you
can
see
we're
doing
quite
well
we're
among
the
lowest
in
the
country.
I
think
this
is
just
due
to
being
more
of
a
remote
city
and
not
closer
to
the
coast
or
large
cities
which
have
had
more
more
effect
due
to
the
pandemic
and
you'll
see
we're
at
5.7
percent
salt
lake
city
is
6.2
percent.
All
the
other
cities
in
the
chart
are
eight
percent
9
and
above
so
again
we
haven't
been
affected
as
much
with
employment
losses.
E
E
Housing
inventory
is
very
low.
Again.
Prices
continue
to
move
upward,
at
least
partly
due
to
exceptionally
low
mortgage
rates.
The
median
home
sales
price
really
shot
up
the
first
half
of
the
year
homes
are
getting
getting
bit
up
surprising,
but
that
is
is
how
that
is
going
right.
Now,
sales
tax
again
is
held
up
very
well
in
the
second
quarter.
Receipts
were
actually
up.
We
were
thinking
they
might
be
down
and
considerably
down.
E
Other
economic
measures,
like
consumer
sentiment,
are
down
significantly
and
then
the
last
point
for
the
calendar
year,
2020
gross
domestic
product
is
projected
to
be
down.
6.1
percent,
with
a
3.7
growth
coming
out
of
that
for
calendar
year
2021..
H
Ahead,
go
ahead,
hi
thanks!
So
my
question:
I
just
wondered
if
we
have
any
idea
on
the
sales
tax
revenue,
if
that
has
continued,
so
strong,
because
people,
although
I
know
people
are
buying
a
lot
online,
there
also
seems
to
be
a
lot
more
attention
being
paid
to
shopping
locally,
and
I
wonder,
do
we
have
any
idea
our
sales
actually
up
that
much
or
is
there
a
shift
in
in
behavior.
E
Madam
mayor
councilmember,
clay,
yes,
good
question,
I
think
some
of
it
is
just
due
to
retail,
has
done
very
well
and
local.
E
I
found
myself
looking
at
what
gets
charged
sales
tax
and
what
doesn't-
and
I
think
its
services
don't
get
charged,
but
groceries
do
so
cleaned
out.
Grocery
shelves
mean
people
are
buying
lots
and
stocking
up.
I
think
that's
part
of
it.
Certainly
there's
some
lost
retail
out
there
for
certain
things,
but
it's
it's
surprising
to
me
that
it's
held
up
that.
E
Well,
I
will
see
if
I
can
get
a
little
bit
more
context
on
on
where
that's
coming
from,
but
that
that's
our
best
guess
is
that
it's
just
due
to
people
stocking
up
on
a
lot
of
essentials.
D
D
One
of
the
trends
that
I'm
seeing
here
is
that
we've
seen
a
really
sharp
decline
in
accommodation
in
food
services
and
other
services
in
employment,
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
our
a
lot
of
our
neighboring
states
still
have
many
more
restrictions
in
these
areas
than
we
do
and
they're.
Therefore,
in
a
better
position
as
far
as
pandemic
control
than
we
are,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
there's
a
human
side
to
these
economic
indicators
also
and
there's
a
lot
behind
those
numbers.
D
E
Council
member,
yes,
I
think
there
are
certainly
some
some
trade-offs
in
potential
risk
that
that
goes
with.
With
that,
the
other
thing
is
when
you
reopen,
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
your
customers
are
all
going
to
come
back
and
a
lot
comes
down
to
customer
confidence
to
come
into
an
eating
establishment
or
something.
But
yes,
that's
where
the
job
losses
are
really
showing
up,
are
or
have
showed
up
or
hopefully
coming
back
we're
in
the
eating
and
drinking
establishments,
and
things
like
that.
E
I
E
Slide
here
is
just
a
summary
and
again,
overall
operating
revenue
is
below
budget,
but
less
than
we
we
first
thought.
Expenditures
are
trending
significantly
below
budget
more
than
offsetting
the
the
revenue
that
we're
short
and
then
we're
looking
at
federal
reimbursement.
That
will
also
help
solidify
the
city's
financial
situation
and
then
just
with
all
the
economic
indicators
and
and
such
there's
just
again
significant
economic
uncertainty.
E
My
sense
is
we're
not
out
of
the
woods
it's
just
going
to
take
its
some
time
to
sort
itself
out
and
see
where
things
go.
So
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
stand
for
any
questions.
A
H
I'll
I'll
turn
my
video
off
for
now.
So
the
question
is,
you
know,
given
the
budget
that
we
built,
we
still
had
some
holes
in
it,
especially
finding
savings
with
priority-based
budgeting.
J
J
Thank
you.
I
was
wondering
in
terms
of
those
unemployment
numbers.
Do
we
have
an
indication
of
what
the
income
levels
are
that
that
aren't
doing
so
great
or
the
ones
that
are
doing
great
in
in
our
area?
J
Do
we
know
who's
who's,
taking
advantage
of
unemployment
or
those
who
are
not
needing
to
do?
We
have
any
indication
about
those
income
levels.
E
Madam
mayor
council,
member,
nothing
hard
numbers,
but
everything
I
read
suggests
that
the
the
job
losses
have
disproportionately
affected
those
in
the
lower
income
levels.
You
know
the
jobs
in
in
restaurants
and
things
like
that.
The
jobs
where
you
need
to
be
on
site
and
do
things
you
know
hotels,
for
example,
if
their
business
is
way
down.
E
So
if
you
look
at
more
of
your
white
collar
jobs,
which
tend
to
pay
more,
those
jobs
are
more
easily
done
remotely
and
on
computers
and
such
so
yes,
there
is
definitely
an
apparent
much
higher
impact
on
those
lower
income
levels.
E
I
think
the
unemployment
benefits
with
the
enhancement
has
probably
done
a
great
deal
to
help
these
people
get
by
yeah.
Look
at
property
tax.
There's
really.
We
thought
there
might
be
more
people
not
being
able
to
pay
the
property
tax
on
time
and
we're
really
not
seeing
a
lot
of
that,
but
more
people
in
the
lower
income
levels
rent
and
I'm
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
those
people
are
just
getting
by.
E
There
was
there's
been
talk
in
washington
of
a
second
round
of
stimulus
back
in
july.
That
hasn't
really
happened.
E
The
politics
may
be
contentious
when
a
vaccine
comes
out,
will
probably
be
a
turning
point
and
even
right
now,
when
can
the
schools
open
or
do
they
stay
open
if
they're
deciding
to
open
now
are
all
key
key
considerations?
E
Hopefully
the
economy
keeps
improving
and
we
keep
seeing
some
improvement
there
where
that
helps
people
get
back
to
work,
provided
it's
safe,
but
it's
a
day-to-day
thing
with
seeing
if
the
virus
is
is
improving
and
how
we're
managing
it
or
if
it
continues
to
increase
and
cause
people
to
you
know,
stay
home.
A
Next
up,
carl,
oh
there
you
are
carl
on
the
screen
with
a
presentation
on
the
west
side,
public
prod
wes
excuse
me
west
side
park,
public
art
design,
recommendation
welcome.
K
Madam
mayor
members
of
council,
thank
you
should
I
be
sharing
my
screen
for
the
presentation.
A
K
Okay,
members
of
council,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
today,
I'm
here
seeking
feedback
and
an
affirmation
of
direction
on
the
recommendation
that
we
receive
for
the
public
art
component
for
the
west
side
park.
K
So
a
quick
background
on
how
we
arrived
at
the
recommendation
today
is
that
in
2018,
ccdc
parks,
department
in
arts
and
history
began
partnership
around
developing
this
new
west
side
park.
K
We
convened
a
community-based
selection
panel,
which
represented
members
from
the
arts
and
history,
commission,
the
arts
and
history
advisory
team,
the
ccdc
board
parks
and
rec
project
stakeholders
and
two
members
from
the
local
arts
community
to
come
together
to
help
us
craft,
an
artist
rfq.
We
released
at
rfq
in
summer
of
2019
and
then
had
a
finalist
interview
process.
K
We
identified
three
finalist
artists
from
the
original
qualification
rounds
and
invited
those
artists
to
engage
in
interviews
with
the
selection
committee
and
from
that
interview
rounds,
artist,
matthew,
mizoto,
who's
pictured
here
was
selected
for
the
project.
Matthew
comes
to
us
with
a
fairly
extensive
background
in
public
art
working
really
in
community
collaborative
projects
across
the
country.
K
He
also
comes
with
the
support
of
two
different
fellowships
from
the
guggenheim
and
from
harvard
matthew.
Then,
before
the
design
process
began,
matthew,
traveled
here
to
boise
in
february
of
this
year
and
hosted
what
he
coined
as
a
public
or
an
outdoor
living
room.
K
We
essentially
staged
a
living
room
set
up
out
on
8th
street
by
the
escalator
in
the
main
marketplace
and
met
with
and
invited
residents
to
join
us
in
conversation
about
important
characteristics
and
values
of
the
city.
K
The
conversation
wasn't
strictly
focused
on
the
public
art
for
the
sort
of
the
vibe
of
boise.
During
during
his
visit,
he
was
here
for
three
days.
We
hosted
the
outdoor
living
room.
We
also
met
individually
one-on-one
with
city
leaders,
both
related
to
ccdc
city
and
other
cultural
organizations,
to
collect
further
feedback.
We
also
met
with
the
design
team,
which
was
already
in
place
led
by
ccdc
and
the
parks
department.
K
After
collecting
all
the
input
from
the
community
matthew
started
to
engage
with
the
design
team
and
come
up
with.
He
came
up
with
multiple
design
options
that
were
worked
through
with
both
the
selection
committee
project
stakeholders
and
the
design
team,
and
we
also
ultimately
whittled
those
designs
down
to
two
different
design
directions.
K
And
it
was
around
that
time
that
that
the
ctc
board
decided
to
eliminate
the
water
feature.
It's
actually
a
fog
feature
for
the
park
and
that
freed
up
some
additional
budget
that
was
allocated
for
park
features
and
they
determined
that
it
was
appropriate
to
reallocate
that
addition.
That
should
have
been
spent
on
the
fog
feature
to
the
public
art
project,
and
so
they
identified
an
additional
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
the
artist
contract.
K
And
so
we
came
back
to
city
council
at
the
last
session
to
amend
that
t4
agreement
between
the
city
and
ccdc
to
increase
matthew's
overall
contract
to
350
000.
Along
with
that
agreement.
There's
also
outlined
additional
budget
help,
support
the
construction
foundations
and
the
also
also
the
installation
process
of
bringing
the
work
to
the
park.
K
So
matthew
went
back
in
and
reworked
the
two
design
options
that
had
received
the
favor
of
the
selection
committee
and
the
project
stakeholders
to
reflect
that
increase.
In
budget
and
we
then
presented
those
two
design
options
to
the
community
through
a
public
feedback
form,
we
hosted
that
form
on
the
arts
and
history
website.
It
was
promoted
out
through
both
arts
and
history
parks.
Ccdc
city
social
media
was
also
carried
by
a
couple
of
the
local
media
outlets.
K
The
feedback
form
was
open
for
just
about
two
weeks
or
just
over
two
weeks,
and
through
that
time
we
received
just
under
200
comments
about
the
design
options.
In
the
breakdown
of
the
commons,
we
received
an
overwhelming
majority
for
the
concept
that
I'll
present
today,
the
gentle
breeze
concept
and
the
the
rest
of
the
breakdown.
K
We
took
all
this
feedback
along
with
the
two
design
concepts
and
presented
all
this
information
to
the
original
community
selection
panel,
to
put
forward
a
recommendation
and
through
an
extensive
discussion,
we
actually
arrived.
Surprisingly,
as
these
processes
go
at
a
consensus
with
a
12-member
panel
in
support
of
the
design
concept
that
I'll
present,
this
recommendation
was
brought
forward
to
both
the
arts
and
history
commission
into
the
ccdc
board
for
feedback,
and
both
bodies
approved
the
design
recommendation
that
I'm
bringing
forward
today.
K
So
the
concept
that
we
have
forward
from
the
selection
committee,
the
commission,
arts,
industry,
commission
and
the
ccdc
board
is
titled
gentle
breeze
and
it's
it
presents
itself
as
an
abstract.
Sculptural
tree
form
it's
roughly
23
feet
tall
and
30
inches
in
diameter
in
full
round
or
30
feet
in
diameter.
Excuse
me,
and
it
sits
on
top
of
what's
proposed
at
a
60
inch
landform
berm,
so
the
berm
was
identified
to
increase
the
scale
and
the
height
and
the
engagement
around
around
the
artwork.
K
It
helps
to
elevate
the
work,
so
that's
visible
as
you
approach
the
park.
It
references,
the
surrounding
foothills
and
recreational
experiences,
features
an
articulated
canopy
of
pink
leaves
which
respond
to
the
wind.
So
each
leaf
is
our
is
individually
articulated
so
that,
as
the
wind
blows
through
this
corridor,
the
entire
structure
will
respond
to
the
environment
that
it's
in.
It
also
has
a
suspended
back-to-back
park
bench
swings
and
so
as
to
provide
interaction,
gathering
and
play
as
well.
K
The
structure
overall
serves
as
a
shade
structure
for
the
park,
which
will,
which
was
deemed
to
be
really
important,
as
the
other
actual
trees
within
the
park
mature
over
time
before
they're
able
to
provide
substantial
shade,
finally
creates
an
iconic,
an
icon
for
both
the
park
and
the
west
side
district
and
the
means
of
wayfinding.
K
I'm
gonna
continue
to
show
a
couple
different
renderings
and
cover
a
couple
of
the
design
principles
that
matthew,
misota
came
up
with
the
design
principles
are
highlighted
in
bold
with
a
brief,
descriptor
and
all
elaborate
on
each
of
these.
K
So
the
original
concept,
or
the
concept
that
was
arrived
at
for
gentle
breeze,
was
to
really
capture
the
vibe
of
boise.
Was
he
was
trying
to
capture
the
the
essence
of
the
slow
pace
of
life
here?
The
niceness
of
boise
boise
kind,
the
aesthetics,
the
original
design
concept
for
the
park
was
to
create
an
oasis
in
the
west
side
district
which
at
this
point
in
time,
is
largely
surface
parking
and
undeveloped,
lots
and
also
to
create.
K
K
Here's
a
nice
overhead
view
that
positions
the
artwork
within
the
footprint
of
the
park
and
within
the
context
of
the
surrounding
built
environment,
and
it
was
really
important
to
to
matthew
to
to
balance
the
scale
in
the
context
of
this
park
between
the
boise
cascade
building
to
the
north
and
the
rafanelli
nehouse
building.
That's
currently
under
construction
just
to
the
south
and
to
to
balance
that
density
of
building
with
a
human
scaled
experience.
K
It
was
acknowledged
and
discussed
that
you
know
the
average.
You
know
visitor
citizen.
Rarely
has
the
opportunity
to
occupy
a
lot
of
these
businesses
or
office
spaces
and
to
create
something
that
was
specifically
built
and
developed
and
scaled
to
the
human
experience
in
the
city
was
really
important
and
the
idea
forces
is
seeing
the
natural
or
nod
to
the
natural
environment
within
the
park.
K
K
Should
this
concept
be
approved
is
a
fully
accessible,
ada
pathway
that
will
lead
the
park
visitors
from
ad
grade
on
the
sidewalk
or
the
hardscaped
areas
of
the
park
to
the
top
of
the
berm,
so
it'll
be
there's
different
concepts
that
are
currently
in
play
right
now,
but
there
will
be
a
way
for
everyone
to
access
the
very
top
and
access
the
swings,
so
we're
currently
collaborating
with
parks
and
risk
and
safety
on
on
the
standards
for
ensuring
that
everyone
can
enjoy
this
work
so
that
that
cover
the
the
accessibility
it
also
it's
performing
a
whimsical
playful
nature
to
the
park
have
a
functional
space.
K
So
it's
not
just
a
decorative
piece
of
work
to
be
looked
at
and
it
was
really
important
that
again
this
this
work
speaks
to
the
contemporary
nature,
not
only
the
adjacent
buildings,
but
also
the
aspirations
of
the
future
of
the
west
side
district
pending
any
feedback
and
the
affirmation.
Today,
we
would
bring
a
formal
resolution
back
to
city
council
in
september
to
approve
the
design
and
pending
those
two
steps.
K
We
would
then
do
design
refinement
so
working
with
fabricators
to
identify
material
choices
working
through
structural
engineering
working
for
permitting
with
the
city
in
the
winter.
It's
anticipated
that
we
move
into
construction
coordination,
fabrication
of
the
work
and
then
install
the
work
with
to
align
with
the
dedication
of
the
park
in
spring
2021..
J
Madam
mayor
go
ahead.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
carl,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
I
thoroughly
enjoyed
meeting
matthew
when
he
came
to
town.
He
seemed
to
be
very
invested
in
connecting
with
the
community
to
find
out
what
we
would
like
to
see
in
his
public
art
piece
and
seeing
the
examples
of
the
other
public
art
pieces
that
he's
done.
J
I
think
I
mentioned
this
during
either
another
work
session
or
during
council
when
we
were
shown
some
of
his
other
pieces
that
I
just
I
can't
remember
being
in
a
room
where
we've
looked
at
a
perspective,
art
piece
and
and
have
heard
people
audibly,
you
know
inhale
with
excitement
and
surprise
at
the
peace
and
if
there's
one
thing,
I've
learned
in
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
that
I've
had
the
pleasure
and
honor
of
being
on
this
council
and
also
having
the
opportunity
to
to
be
the
liaison
to
the
arts
and
history.
J
I
will
admit
that
the
suffrage
quilt
that
we're
going
to
be
unveiling
tomorrow
didn't
really
grab
me
on
paper
and
then,
when
I
saw
it
installed
on
on
the
south
side
of
our
city
hall
building,
it
takes
my
breath
away
and
I
think
it's
stunning
and
beautiful.
J
So
I
know
that
we
have
had
some
comments,
at
least
from
one
public
member.
I
don't
know
if
we've
gotten
others
I've
only
seen
the
one
critical
of
the
color
and
critical
that
it's
a
fabricated
tree
when
here
we
are
in
the
city
of
trees,
wanting
more
real
trees.
But
I
love
it.
I
think
any
opportunity
that
we
have
in
our
city
to
embrace
more
color
in
a
sea
of
concrete
and
grays
and
browns
I'm
all
for,
and
I
also
like
the
the
childlike
quality
I
mean.
J
K
Councilmember
sanchez,
thank
you
for
your
comments.
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
the
to
your
comments
on
the
colors
pink
was
chosen
in
in
one
of
the
earlier
iterations
of
this
design
concept.
K
Matthew
had
rendered
a
cherry
blossom
tree,
and
the
feedback
we
received
at
the
time
was
that
it
had
to
be
more
abstract
than
actual
representational
of
a
tree,
but
the
pink
color
was
sort
of
latched
onto
through
that
process,
because
it
was
a
bold
statement
and
a
color
that
we
don't
typically
encounter
and
something
that
you
know
could
be
potentially
awe-inspiring
as
well.
It
does
really
well
contrast.
The
color
palette
of
the
adjacent
adult
environment.
J
Carl
I,
if
I
could
just
give
one
you
know-
maybe
you
know
not
to
disregard
that.
One
comment
if
if
we
may
be
so
bold,
to
give
some
feedback
in
regards
to
that
I
love
pink.
Pink
is
one
of
my
favorite
colors,
but
I
like
a
particular
kind
of
pink-
and
you
know
I
kind
of
like
the
more
raspberry
vibe
of
pink.
I
think
the
person
referenced
this
pink
as
pepto-bismol
pink.
So
again
I
love
pink.
I
love
bright
colors.
J
Would
it
be
possible
for
us
to
get
a
range
of
pinks
to
consider?
I
don't
know
if
it's
appropriate
you'll
have
to
forgive
my
naivete
when
it
comes
to
giving
feedback
on
somebody's
art
piece,
but
perhaps
we
could
have
that
be
part
of
the
feedback
we
give.
Maybe
it's
not
bad
to
have
pink.
Maybe
it's
the
right
shade
of
pink.
I
don't
know.
K
Madam
mayor
councilmember
sanchez
absolutely
and
I
and
I
welcome
any
feedback
at
this
point
before
we
move
into
design
refinements,
and
we
did
have
extensive
discussions
about
finding
the
right
pink,
particularly
given
the
the
white
scenario
at
this
particular
site
and
in
contrast
to
the
to
the
built
environment,
and
so
should
this
concept
proceed,
we
would
do
extensive.
You
know
material
testing
to
really
find
that
the
right
pink
for
the
space.
A
H
H
I
had
been
asked
to
pull
that
resolution
off
and
missed
that
request,
and-
and
so
I
feel
like,
we
do
need
to
pull
it
off
this
week
and
re-vote
on
it.
But
my
question
to
you
is
that
resolution.
As
I
understand
it
was
simply
the
funding
resolution
and
not
the
resolution
that
approves
the
art
as
the
concept
design
is
that
correct.
K
That
is
correct.
The
resolution
that
was
presented
last
week
was
strictly
in
relation
to
the
amended
funding
agreement
and,
as
I
stated
in
my
next
steps,
a
future
resolution
would
come
forward
to
formally
approve
a
design
concept.
H
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
so
here's
my
question.
H
I
also
heard
those
comments
about
the
color
and
I
really
appreciate
learning
that
it
came
out
of
a
concept
that
included
some
cherry
blossoms,
and
so
I
guess
my
comment
back
to
that
is
that
maybe,
instead
of
finding
the
right
one
color
and
given
the
light
and
the
play
of
light
and
the
fact
that
these
are
going
to
move
in
the
wind,
it
might
be
interesting
to
at
least
explore
a
concept
that
would
have
a
range
of
pink
colors
on
those,
so
that
the
play
of
light
could
actually
even
be
more
vibrant
and
and
more
enlivening
of
the
space.
H
Is
that
something
that
we
you
could
share
with
the
artist
as
feedback.
K
America
councilman
absolutely,
and
that
was
a
part
of
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
did
receive
through
the
selection
committee
and
the
approval
bodies
was
to
explore
some
alternate
canopy,
color
palettes
and
initially
early
on
in
some
of
the
early
iterations,
a
variety
of
pink
tones
was
included
in
the
canopy
and
it's
there
were
some
comments
that
stated
that
it
it
kind
of
degraded
the
contemporary
feel
of
the
tree.
However,
we
have
tasked
the
artist
with
exploring
alternate
color
palettes,
based
on
the
feedback
of
the
color.
K
H
The
benefit
of
that
is
that
it
sort
of
shields
that
space
and
makes
it
a
little
quieter
and
more
private.
I
guess
the
flip
side
of
that
is
that
in
an
urban
space
it
takes
the
eyes
off
of
the
park
a
bit
and
just
want
to
ensure
that,
as
we
do
this,
we
make
sure
that
the
rest
of
the
park
really
does
have
the
opportunity
to
have
eyes
on
all
of
the
parks
so
that
we
don't
lose
the
sort
of
security
aspect
of
of
ensuring
that
the
park
is
visible.
Does
that
make
sense.
K
Madam
mayor
councilmember,
yes
absolutely
and
we
have
had
we've
started,
having
conversations
about
the
visibility,
especially
in
you
know,
the
potential,
for
you
know
security
drive-bys
by
boise
police
department
to
ensure
that
there
are,
you
know,
safe,
accessible
points
of
visibility
into
the
park
and
there
was
a
number
of
early
iterations
that
were
moved
away
from
with
the
berm
or
other
structures
to
ensure
that
the
safety
was
upheld
and
just
recently
this
week
in
looking
at
the
you
know
some
a
couple
options
for
ada
accessibility
to
the
top
of
the
berm.
K
H
Okay,
great
I'm
glad
you're,
considering
it
and
then
finally
in
losing
the
water
feature,
we
lose
a
bit
of
the
idea
of
this
as
an
oasis,
and
I'm
wondering
without
a
big
water
feature
is:
are
there
any
plans
to
ensure
that
that
there
will
be
some
cooling
feature
in
this
park
on
a
hot
summer
day,
especially
early
on
before
we
get
some
trees
planted?
I'm
not
sure
it's
going
to
be
as
inviting
as
it
might
be,
without
some
some
water
of
some
kind.
K
Madam
mayor
councilman
rick
lake,
I'm
not
aware
of
any
additional
water
features
or
any
other
cooling
aspects
that
are
incorporated
into
the
park
design.
However,
I
would
be
happy
to
follow
up
on
that
in
discussions
with
the
park
team.
A
L
Yeah,
thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
carl,
and
I
won't
take
up
a
lot
of
your
time
here.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
be
part
of
some
of
the
the
planning
process,
or
at
least
to
be
able
to
give
some
input
early
on,
and
I
was
really
impressed
with
how
well
the
job
I
think
our
city
did
in
putting
that
together.
L
L
It's
just
how
important
it
is
for
us
to
continue
to
invest
in
our
city
and
invest
in
art
and
culture
in
our
city,
especially
during
this
time,
and
the
fact
that
we
have
some
stuff
as
far
as
the
timeline
goes
in
in
spring
of
2021
and
the
ability
to
move
forward
forward
with
this,
I
feel
like
is
so
important,
and
I
know
that
as
I've
traveled
around
from
all
sorts
of
different
cities
a
lot
of
times,
the
public
art
is
the
thing
that
I
remember,
and
I
think
that
having
something
iconic
like
this
in
the
middle
of
downtown
boise
and
investing
in
their
that
right
now
is,
is
really
pretty
great.
D
Secondly,
I
have
this
actual
tree
in
my
backyard
and
I
invite
anyone
to
come
over
in
the
month
of
may
approximately
and
see
the
actual
weeping
cherry
tree.
That
is
this
tree.
The
artist
is
welcome
to
come
to
my
backyard
and
see
the
various
colors
that
it
has,
but
it
is
a
magic
tree,
so
I'm
really
excited
to
see
kind
of
the
cartoon
version
of
my
magic
tree
in
downtown
boise
for
all
to
enjoy
all
the
time
and
now
I
think
I
want
to
put
swings
underneath
my
actual
tree.
G
Madam
mayor,
very
briefly,
tj
here
I
think
it's
a
great
job.
I
I
really
most
of
all
appreciate
all
the
input
that
went
into
this
that
has
gone
into
it
to
date,
carl,
and
I
really
like
the
project,
the
color
kind
of
got
me
at
first,
but
you
know
I'm
buying
in
and
I
like
councilmember
sanchez
said
you
know
once
sometimes
it
takes
seeing
it
once
it's
complete.
G
It
would
be
nice
to
continue
to
delve
into
the
the
color
aspect
and
maybe
different
shades
of
pink
or
maybe
continue
to
make
sure
we
get
the
right
one.
But
I
really
like
the
project.
Thank
you.
A
Great
thanks
just
to
wrap
up
a
couple
things.
You
know
I
public
art's
hard
and
we
have
committees
for
a
reason
that
are
tasked
with
I'm
talking
with
getting
to
know
and
then
better
understanding.
Why
and
what
an
artist
might
bring
forward,
and
you
know
when
I
first
looked
at
this-
the
the
color
took
me
by
surprise,
but
I
think
it's
because
often-
and
we
expect
to
see
something
in
one
way
and
that's
the
beauty
of
art
is
that
it.
A
It
makes
us
notice,
think
kind
of
check
ourselves
in
our
assumptions
and
then,
through
that
we
have
the
experience
with
it,
and
I
kept
thinking
about
in
the
spring
how
everybody
loves.
Once
I
had
that
initial
shock
around
the
color,
everybody
loves
the
pink
flowering
trees
in
our
city
and
that's
really
what
this
is
and
the
berms,
I
think
invite
you
to
come
in
in
my
in
my
experience
with
that.
You
know.
Granite,
just
print
is
that
that
is
the
oasis.
A
There's
a
tree
with
swings,
it's
it's
playful
and
then
the
berms
create
a
space
that
you
either
want
to
lay
back
on
or
sit
on,
while
you're
enjoying
lunch
and
watching
people
interact
with
this
art.
So
I
think
it's.
I
appreciate
the
work
of
the
committee
arts
and
history
and
everybody
that
went
into
this
and
look
forward
to
seeing
what's
next
the
next
rendition
of
it
is.
We
have
further
conversation.
B
A
Bye-Bye
we
have
maureen's
here,
but
is
andrea.
Oh,
we
great
we've
got
andrea
online
on
zoom
for
a
conversation
about
a
proposed
housing,
bonus,
ordinance
and
just
before
andrea
starts.
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
couple
things
first
off
having
some
sort
of
bonus
or
incentive
program
that
will
help
us
get
at
our
goal
of
having
more
affordable
housing
come
on.
A
The
market
is
really
important
to
me
and
I
think
to
many
of
you-
and
this
is
the
first
attempt
at
that
at
the
ordinance
that
would
get
at
that
goal
of
a
home
for
everyone
focusing
on
affordability
in
some
areas.
A
I
really
intend
for
this
to
be
an
opportunity
to
hear
feedback
from
council
members
on
what
staff
with
clarion
and
associates
is
proposing
right
now,
let's
have
a
conversation
about
ideas,
potential
improvements
and
then
from
there
you'll
see
process-wise
where
we
go
to
the
public,
and
I-
and
I
want
to
make
sure
too-
that
we
have
built-in
in
the
opportunity
to
have
the
conversation
with
those
that
would
be
prone
to
build
housing,
that's
affordable
for
everyone
to
make
sure
that
we
get
this
right,
because
we
don't
want
to
go
through
this
exercise
and
not
end
up
with
changes
in
our
ordinance
incentives
out
there
that
get
us
what
what
we
want
and
what
we're
seeking
is
housing.
M
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council,
I
am
andrea
tuning
and
I
am
representing
the
planning
and
development
services
division
and
we're
just
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
housing
bonus
ordinance
and
how
it
is
currently
evolving.
M
M
And
so
we
took
those
and
said:
well
what
incentives
could
we
apply
to
these
policies
and
goals
that
we
have
as
a
city?
And
when
we
started
to
talk
about
affordable
housing?
We
said
hey.
If
you
are
willing
to
provide
us
a
certain
amount
of
affordable
housing,
we
can
offer
you
the
additional
building
height
that
you're
seeking.
M
We
can
also
offer
you
a
parking
reduction
and
in
certain
circumstances
we
could
also
eliminate
the
process
for
you
to
go
through
the
time
restrictions
that
it
takes
to
get
through
this
the
hearing
process
and-
and
we
can
send
you
through
administratively-
and
you
know,
we
heard
positive
feedback
from
that.
Then
we
also
said
okay
well
with
transit,
supportive.
M
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
housing
at
all
price
points
for
all
individuals
of
all
ages
and
individuals
going
throughout
multiple
stages
of
their
life
and
really
when
we
looked
at
the
affordable
housing
piece.
We
said
you
know,
depending
on
whether
you're
willing
to
provide
10,
15
or
20
percent
of
your
units
to
be
affordable.
M
M
M
If,
in
the
event
that
you
have
existing
units
on
the
site,
or
even
perhaps
you
have
existing
affordable
housing,
it's
important
to
preserve
that,
and
so
we
think
that
that's
even
more
critical
and
so,
rather
than
just
give
you
a
single
floor
in
the
r3
zone,
we're
willing
to
give
you
an
additional
two
floors
for
housing,
and
then
you
know
if
you
have
under
50
dwelling
units.
You
know
we're
also
willing
to
look
at
this
administratively
and
really.
M
We
wanted
to
give
developers
a
predictable
and
objective
way
to
achieve
housing,
and
you
know
our
communications
didn't
just
stop
with
developers
and
hey.
What
can
we
offer
you?
We
also
have
heard
time
and
time
again
from
existing
neighborhoods
and
individuals
and
residents
say:
hey
we're
not
opposed
to
housing.
We
just
want
it
to
transition
into
our
neighborhoods.
M
We
want
that
sense
of
compatibility
and
so
you'll
notice,
with
both
the
affordable
housing
component,
as
well
as
the
transit
supportive
component.
There
is
a
table
note
that
really
talks
about
that.
If
you
are
adjacent
to
a
residential
zone
that
has
a
single
family
home
or
a
duplex,
the
maximum
height
of
35
feet
should
be
applicable
and
really
what
that
does.
Is
that
doesn't
give
you
a
height
allowance
near
those
property
lines
where
you'd
be
transitioning
into
some
of
those
existing
single-family
residential
zones?
M
When
we
look
at
transit,
supportive
development,
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
the
affordable
housing
because
affordable
housing
we've
said
that
that's
applicable
city-wide.
You
can
do
that
anywhere
in
the
right
zone.
You
can
do
that.
Transit,
supportive
development
is
really
supporting
transit
viability
in
targeted
locations
and
our
goal
is
to
create
housing
in
locations
where
people
are
near
jobs,
goods
and
services,
and
that
is
intended
to
really
have
implications
across
the
line
getting
people
out
of
their
car
promoting
walkability.
M
You
know
allowing
people
access
to
transit
those
types
of
things
that
we
have
been
working
so
hard
for.
So
if,
in
this
particular
case,
if
you're
located
within
a
quarter
mile
of
a
regional
activity
center,
which
is
identified
by
the
green
dot
and
those
are
kind
of
dispersed
city-wide,
as
you
notice,
we
can
offer
you
some
bonuses
there.
M
M
If
you're
able
to
preserve
some
of
those
existing
units
there
and
then
looking
at
a
parking
reduction
as
well
again,
we
have
that
transitional
piece
to
make
sure
that
we're
preserving
those
existing
neighborhoods,
the
best
that
we
can
and
our
final
option
for
a
housing
bonus
would
be
for
adaptive.
Reuse,
really.
M
The
intent
is
to
preserve
and
reuse
our
existing
buildings
in
order
to
expand
our
housing
supply,
and
so,
through
the
adaptive
reuse
in
the
traditional
residential
zones,
we
could
allow
for
a
30
parking
reduction,
whereas
in
your
office
or
commercial
zones
you
know
we
can
say
we
will
accept
the
amount
of
parking
that
you
have
now
as
long
as
you
are
not
reducing
or
removing
any
parking.
So,
yes,
we
want
you
to
preserve
that
building
and
we
are
willing
to
work
with
you
in
regard
to
your
parking
requirements.
M
I
would
like
you
to
keep
in
mind
that
this
is
an
evolving
process.
This
is
your
first
opportunity
to
look
at
that
and
we're
looking
for
your
comments
and
your
feedback
to
give
us
direction
on
how
we
can
make
it
better.
Have
we
met
some
of
those
ideal
goals
that
you're
looking
for?
Have
we
missed
something,
really
we're
hoping
that
you
can
share
that
with
us?
M
We'd
love
to
hear
your
comments
before
we
fully
develop
that
ordinance
and
as
we
do
develop
that
ordinance
further,
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
walk
you
through
what
what's
happening.
Next.
Where
are
we
in
our
timeline?
So
we
are
early
in
the
process.
This
is
before
anything
happens.
M
Do
they
believe
that
this
is
enough,
and
is
this
going
to
be
effective,
and
so,
through
september
and
october,
we're
going
to
be
hearing
what
those
those
feedback
in
that
comment
period?
We
want
to
hear
everybody.
We
would
then
move
forward
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
in
november
at
a
public
hearing
for
their
formal
recommendation
to
you
and
then
we'll
be
back
before
you
again
in
december,
hopefully
with
a
really
good
quality
product
that
we
all
believe
in.
M
That
is
going
to
be
effective
in
the
interim
as
we
develop
our
larger
zoning
code
rewrite
over
the
next
two
to
three
years
and
then.
Finally,
after
the
city
council
has
made
their
determination
if
we
feel
comfortable
moving
forward,
we
would
anticipate
that
we
would
have
expedited
readings,
and
so
we
would
have
those
three
legal
readings
occurring
at
one
time
and
moving
forward
with
the
project
in
january.
H
Mayor,
yes,
go
ahead,
thank
you
well,
thank
you,
andrea.
I
know
a
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
this
quickly.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
think,
for
me,
I'd
like
to
ask
a
couple
of
fundamental
questions
and-
and
you
know,
put
those
on
the
table,
so
my
fellow
council
members
can
also
think
about
them
and
then
have
some
kind
of
specific
questions
about
the
ordinance
and
perhaps
some
ideas
for
some
some
tweaks.
Some
changes
that
I
think
may
make
it
more
palatable
and
maybe
more
effective.
H
So
for
me
the
the
first
fundamental
question
is
you
know
the
policy
purpose
of
this
and
we
need
to
get
more
housing
built
and
so
for
me,
the
the
fundamentally
most
important
part
of
this
is
figuring
out
ways
to
ensure
that
it's
easier
to
get
more
units
built
in
the
places
where
we
think
that's
appropriate
and
where
we
think
the
the
citizens
also
will
accept
and
believe
that
that's
appropriate.
H
Of
course.
In
addition
to
that,
we
want
to
preserve
existing
buildings,
there's
an
environmental
benefit
of
that,
and
we
think
fundamentally,
we
can
probably
get
more
housing
built
more
quickly
if
we
adaptively
reuse
some
buildings
rather
than
tear
them
down
and
start
over
from
scratch.
H
In
the
midst
of
that,
we
might
actually
preserve
some
trees
as
well.
So
of
course,
that's
near
and
dear
to
my
part,
my
heart
and
then
finally,
of
course,
we
want
more
affordable
housing.
H
Affordability,
as
we
saw
from
the
memo,
is
the
most
difficult
part
of
this,
and
and
I'm
not
sure
that
we're
quite
there
yet
on
the
affordability-
and
I
say
that
because
I,
as
I've
looked
around
the
state
as
folks
have
tried
to
figure
out
how
to
incentivize,
affordable
housing.
We've
not
seen
a
lot
of
success
stories.
H
H
So
for
me,
coming
from
that
standpoint,
I
wanted
to
say
that
so
you'd
understand
where
I
was
coming
from.
I
have
a
couple
of
observations.
The
first
one
is
that
in
essence,
this
is
a
three-part
ordinance.
H
It
has
the
the
affordability
piece
with
its
own
restrictions
and
its
own
incentives.
It
has
the
transit
oriented
piece
with
its
restrictions
and
incentives,
and
then
it
has
the
adaptive
reuse
piece,
I'm
wondering
if
it
might
be
more
simple
and
perhaps
more
effective
to
to
actually
have
only
two
pieces
to
this
and
maybe
even
two
separate
sections
in
the
ordinance
that
come
together
and
for
me
I
bring
that
forward
because
I
think
affordability
could
lay
on
top
of
any
of
this
and
it
shouldn't
necessarily
be
its
own
separate
thing.
H
So
I'm
wondering
if
we
had
an
ordinance
that
allowed
more
dense,
more
units
to
get
built
in
the
appropriate
places
like
the
transit,
supportive
activity
center,
one
that's
being
proposed,
and
so
that's
one
incentive.
If,
if
you
build
in
this
place
and
we
identify
it,
I
think
frankly,
we
need
to
map
it
much
better
than
than
what
we've
proposed
at
this
point,
maybe
even
to
the
extent
of
identifying
it
as
an
overlay
or
a
series
of
overlays.
H
That
also
perhaps
include
the
corridors,
but
if
we
were
to
do
that
and
then
say
to
someone-
and
in
addition,
if
you
do
some
of
those
units
as
permanently
affordable
units
will
give
you
x
other
incentive
in
this
case,
potentially
the
administrative
review
which
saves
time
or
I
would
even
be
open
to
actually
putting
a
cash
incentive
on
the
table.
If,
if
that,
if
we
find
that,
that
might
be
something
that
would
actually
get
to
affordability,
I'd
say
the
same
with
the
adaptive
reuse
and
with
the
adaptive
reuse.
H
I
think
we
could
actually
loosen
the
requirements
on
it
a
bit.
I
think
there
is
room
for
parking
reduction.
I
think
there
is
room
for
height
as
long
as
we
handle
it
correctly
with
transitions,
because
this
one
is
restricted
only
to
those
buildings
which
aren't
currently
being
used
as
residential
buildings.
H
So
we're
talking
old
strip
malls,
we're
talking.
Churches,
older
churches,
we're
talking,
maybe
a
warehouse,
that's
still
tucked
into
a
neighborhood
somewhere
those
kinds
of
buildings
being
adaptively
reused
into
housing.
I
think
there's
plenty
of
opportunity
in
some
cases
either
to
expand
the
footprint
of
the
building
and
go
up
or
actually
go
up
on
top
of
the
existing
building
to
some
extent,
and
so
I'd
like
I'd
like
to
see
the
opportunity
to
do
that,
because
we'd
probably
get
more
out
of
it
and
the
beauty
of
that
is.
H
These
are
already
non-conforming
uses,
probably
in
an
r1
zone
or
an
r2
zone.
You
know
some
of
the
other
zones,
but
I'm
thinking
particularly
of
our
r1a
vc
zones,
those
would
be
non-conforming
uses.
They
become
conforming
in
some
sense
because
they
become
residential,
but
we
could
allow
maybe
height
if
it's
in
the
right
place
parking
reductions.
H
H
I
just
think
that
I
think
it's
the
right
thing
to
do.
I
just
really
concerned
with
the
way
it's
written.
I
think
it's
so
subjective.
It
would
be
really
hard
to
use
administratively
there's
my
comments.
Madame.
J
A
Yeah,
just
second,
I
want
to
jump
in
there
I
mean
this
is
this
is
the
thing
council
president
is
that
I
think
that
maybe
housing
staff
needs
to
send
us
those
numbers
of
the
number
of
units
that
we're
seeing
every
year
and
where
we're
falling
short,
because
we
set
out
a
goal
for
a
number
of
units
per
year
we
set
out
a
goal
for
affordability.
Those
the
affordability
units
were
never
met.
A
So
in
my
mind,
this
isn't
an
and
also
if
you
want
to
do
affordability,
we
want
housing,
that's
affordable
at
different
levels
and
I'm
afraid
that
if
we,
if
we
make
that
and
and
also
then
it's
lost
primacy
and
agree
with
you-
that
we
don't
necessarily
want
things
internal
to
neighborhoods.
My
you
know
my
whole
hope
with
this
was
that
we'd
see
zones
along
transit
corridors
and
external
to
neighborhoods.
A
A
If
they're
internal
to
the
neighborhood
will
have
pushback-
and
I
don't
want
to
end
up
creating
a
system
where
we're
just
seeing
more
of
what
we've
been
seeing,
rather
than
making
it
truly
easier
and
more
appetizing
to
a
builder
to
include
a
certain
number
of
units
within
their
developments
that
are
at
you
know,
80
ami.
A
What
have
you
depending
on
as
this
proposes,
what
the
market
needs
at
the
time,
because
we
are
not
making
the
targets
that
were
set
out
years
ago
in
terms
of
the
number
of
units
at
different
amis
that
we
need
in
this
community
to
be
able
to
house
all
of
our
residents
or
the
people
that
work
here.
H
If
I
could
respond
real
quickly
to
that,
I
I
don't
disagree
with
you.
I
know
that
we
want
more
affordability.
I
guess
my
concern
is,
as
I've
looked
around
the
state,
the
ones
that
are
aimed
at
that
to
date
haven't
really
achieved
that
goal.
So
I'm
I'm
throwing
this
out
there,
because
I
think
that
really
is
the
conversation
we
need
to
have.
H
I
I
totally
understand
your
concerns.
I
I
think
that
we're
probably
saying
the
same
things
and
and
trying
to
discern
what's
the
best
way
to
make
that
happen,
but
I
I
am
concerned
that
that,
because
we
haven't
allowed
the
right
kind
of
housing,
we
haven't
seen
housing,
that's
naturally
affordable.
If
you
know
what
I
mean.
A
However,
it
hasn't
been
tied
to
salary
pieces
and
I'm
not
proposing
that
we
say
all
of
the
units
in
a
place
must
be
80,
et
cetera.
I'm
saying
like
what
you
said:
why
don't
we
look
at
how
we
incentivize?
If
there's
200
units
being
proposed
20
of
them,
you
know
10
percent
say
are
at
80
percent,
et
cetera,
so
that
we're
slowly
like
ticking
away
at
the
number.
A
That
has
never
been
achieved,
that
we
know
that
we
need
annually
and
the
other
cities
in
the
state
have
done
other
things,
mccall,
ketchum,
etc
have
done
requirements
this.
You
know
this
is
modeled
after
other
states.
I
don't
think
we
can
look
at
what
has
been
done
by
cities
where
they've
required
and
the
constitutional
questions
around
that
for
the
answer.
This
is
trying
to
get
it
in
a
different
way,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
only
going
to
get
it.
A
It's
just
like
in
the
puds,
where
we've
had
where
you
offer
a
tot
lot
and
something
hard
to
do.
If
people
are
going
to
do
the
tot
lot,
because
it's
the
easy
thing
to
do
to
then
you
know
be
considered
a
pud.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
aren't
watering
down
the
options
such
that
they're
going
to
do
what's
easiest
or
most
impactful
long
run
for
the
for
their
own
development
and
not
actually
get
at
what
we're
chasing,
which
is
achieving
that.
A
But
this
is
exactly
why
we
have
work
sessions,
because
these
conversations
exactly
exactly-
and
I
hope
that
in
response
to
that
in
response
to
all
this
stuff-
can
bring
us
back
some
more
information.
Some
background,
maybe
into
background
on
where
this
is
used,
been
used.
How
it's
worked
so
that
we
can
better
understand
that
and
really
get
it
making
sure
that,
if
we're
going
to
write
something
we're
not
doing
it
just
we
need
housing.
A
Yes,
but
not
just
for
housing
sakes
to
get
at
what
we're
really
trying
to
change,
which
is
access
to
units
at
affordable
prices.
J
Madam
mayor
yeah
go
ahead.
Thank
you,
andrea,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
You
know
one
of
one
of
the
things
I
really
liked
about.
Council
president
clegg's
initiative
for
the
100.
Is
it.
I
J
000
100
000
trees.
You
want
to
see
planted
yeah.
I
like
I
like
that,
there's
a
number
and
there's
a
goal
for
that.
What
I
would
like
to
see,
if,
if
it's
possible,
is
for
us
to
identify-
and
I
don't
know-
maybe
it's
already
been
done-
is
to
identify
those
areas
where
where
we
could
have
affordable
housing,
so
I
think
it
was
council
president
clegg
who
made
mention
of
buildings
that
we
have
that
could
be
repurposed
for
affordable
housing.
J
Is
there
a
possibility
that
we
can
be
doing
that
that
we
can
identify
those
areas
that
we
already
have
in
the
city
where
we
would
like
to
see
affordable
housing?
I
would
have
to
agree
with
the
mayor.
I
really
want
to
see
us
put
our
shoulder
into
that,
and
you
know
I'm
thinking
about
some
of
the
council
meetings
we've
had
recently
where
we've
had
folks
be
granted,
I
believe
conditional
use
permits
and
then
they
come
back
because
they
violated
it
or
they
didn't
comply
with
it.
J
And
I
I
think
it's
it's
time
that
we
do
some
things
where
we
really
do
hold
people
accountable
to
the
gifts
that
we
give
them
and
I
mean
boise
is
growing.
I
think
we
will
find
people
who
who
will
comply,
but
I
also
think
it's
time,
especially
after
the
conversation
we
just
had
earlier
in
the
work
session.
J
J
So
I
think
we
need
to
embrace
the
times
that
we're
living
in,
and
that
is
that
we
be
innovative
and
brave
and
bold.
So
I
would
like
to
see
that
I
would
like
to
see
those
areas
in
our
city
where
we
can
possibly
repurpose
buildings
to
be
affordable
housing.
I
think
it's
becoming
quite
urgent.
It
was
before
covet
and
now
even
more
so
so.
Thank
you,
andrea.
C
A
couple
of
things:
thank
you,
andrea,
that
one
of
the
things
that
I've
thought
for
a
really
long
time
is
that
the
streamlining
process
piece
is
a
good
one.
I
think
I
used
to
call
it
like
a
fast-tracked
administrative
process
and
the
reason
I
think
it's
a
good
one,
an
important
one,
more
important,
I
think,
sometimes
than
rejiggering
the
zoning
codes
or
tweaking
you
know,
special
conditional
uses
of
a
particular
zone
is
that
it
almost
always
works
better
to
incentivize
the
behavior
you
want,
rather
than
to
try
to
regulate
the
behavior.
C
C
I
mean
obviously,
first
it's
money,
their
business
and
and
they're
going
to
follow
the
rational
decision
processes
that
a
business
would
make,
but
the
other,
I
think,
is
certainly
promptness
in
approving
and
moving
things
through
a
process
and
predictability,
and
that's
something
that
we
didn't
hit
on
here.
If
we
create
an
administrative
process
that
has
that
moves
very
quickly,
but
has
a
tremendous
amount
of
discretion
in
it,
such
that
a
developer
is
looking
at
a
project
on
the
front
end.
They
see
this
administrative
process
and
they
can't
tell
what's
going
to
happen
in
that
process.
C
That's
uncertainty
and
that's
business
risk,
and
that
is
that
is
a
compelling
reason
to
perhaps
just
go,
build
something
simpler
out
on
the
edge
of
town.
So,
in
addition
to
a
streamlined
process
that
moves
quickly,
you
know
one
that
is
relatively
certain
one
that
that
that
creates
a
framework
where,
if
you
do
abc,
this
will
be
approved
because
the
decision
makers
don't
have
discretion
or
because
we're
not
going
to
layer
it
with
many
different
levels
of
input,
I
think,
would
help
a
lot.
C
C
Very
important
seems
like
it's
very
much
within
our
control
and
our
authority
to
do,
and
I
would
encourage
you
know,
my
input
is
as
we're
thinking
about
how
to
structure
that,
in
addition
to
making
it
prompt
and
efficient,
let's
also
try
to
make
it
as
predictable
and
certain
as
we
can.
L
Madame
thanks,
madam
mayor
and
I
didn't
feel
like
you
were
yelling
from
rn
on
zoom.
You
sound
normal
because.
L
Yeah
patrick
already
brought
up
you
know.
One
thing
to
mention
is
just
the
importance
of
streamlining
that
process
and
that's
something
that
I've
heard
from
developers
over
and
over
again
andrea.
L
I
guess
I
did
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
one
question
was
just:
are
we
looking
at
really
focusing
on
our
larger
multi-unit
complexes
and
developments
when
we're
talking
about
this,
or
is
there
room
for
even
some
of
our
smaller
developments
that
are
taking
place
inside
of
a
neighborhood
so
like
if
somebody's
developing
a
four
unit
eight
unit,
a
12-unit
complex,
is
that
is
that
in
this
proposed
ordinance
as
well.
M
Madam
mayor,
commission
or
councilman
halliburton,
it
would
be
applicable
to
everything
in
the
r2r3
zone.
It
really
is
across
the
board.
M
M
M
M
However,
you
do
want
to
be
utilizing
your
infrastructure,
the
best
that
you
possibly
can,
whether
that's
sewer
water
or
our
transportation
system
and
based
on
you
know
where
we're
seeing
these
identified
zones.
You
know,
we've
got
available
in
infrastructure
and
we
believe
that
we
should
be
utilizing
it
to
our
best
of
our
ability.
L
L
So
if
there's
some
ways
to
yes
and
yes
do
this
and
explore
ways
to
encourage
some
of
that
affordable
housing
and
make
sure
that
this
isn't
just
for
our
larger
units,
but
even
some
of
our
developments,
our
smaller
developments
and
these
other,
you
know
smaller
complexes,
and
I
guess
my
second
question
then,
is
when
we're
talking
about.
I
guess
mostly,
probably
the
reusing
of
buildings
when
we're
when
we're
talking
about
these
incentives.
Are
there
also
some
ways
of
incentivizing
non-displacement?
L
So
if
there's
people
who
are
living
in
the
buildings
that
are
currently
affordable,
some
incentives
similar
to
the
ones
that
you
just
put
forward,
that
would
encourage
keeping
units
for
the
current
residents
and
potentially
reusing
some
of
that
space.
I
don't
know
if
that's
factored
in
to
the
ordinance
or
not.
A
I'm
I'm
going
to
jump
in
here
just
because
I've
been
flagged
for
time.
We
have
to
talk
about
our
path
home
and
that's
quite
a
while
so
andrea,
rather
than
answering
that
I'd.
Ask
that
you
add
that
into
some
of
the
follow-up
information
that
you
provide
us
with,
and
my
sense
is
that
from
the
conversation
today
and
I'll
have
some
more
thinking
to
do
some
things
to
incorporate
some
questions.
A
So
let's
do
step
two
of
this
as
a
follow-up
before
in
response
to
kind
of
staff,
getting
some
sorry
with
staff
getting
some
time
in
response
to
the
conversation
we
had
today
and
then
come
back
with
us
with
a
little
bit
further
and
if
not
in
person,
then
by
memo
that
we
can
all
respond
to.
G
Adam
mayer,
all
one
question.
G
Yeah,
that's
that's
my
point.
I
I
will
actually
do
that
I'll,
send
my
comments
by
email,
but
the
only
more
pressing
one.
I
did
want
to
note
when
I
saw
the
dates
I
it
seemed
like
the
october
and
september
dates
seemed
like
they
should
be
reversed,
but
in
terms
of
getting
input
prior
to
writing
the
code,
but
because
I
think
getting
that
input's
going
to
be
very
important.
But
I
that's
why
I
wanted
to
bring
that
point
up
now
and
I'll.
Send
my
the
rest
of
my
comments
by
email
thanks.
A
I
I
So
I
was
hoping
to
just
do
some
high-level
conversation
with
you
all
about
where
we
are
in
terms
of
responding
to
the
needs
of
those
that
are
unhoused
in
our
community
and
then,
where
we're
specifically
focusing
our
efforts.
Currently,
as
you
may
well
know,
the
city
of
boise
is
the
lead
agency
for
our
path
home,
and
they
just
wanted
to
orient
you
quickly
to
the
idea
that
we
operate
from
this
service
model
and
philosophy
that
permanent
housing
is
the
solution
to
homelessness.
I
I
The
agencies
that
are
a
part
of
this
public-private
partnership.
It's
also
important
to
understand.
We
all
now
work
from
one
prioritized
queue,
whereas
we
used
to
each
non-profit
partner
maintain
their
own
wait
list.
We
now
have
one
wait
list
that
we
prioritize
for
everyone
experiencing
homelessness
throughout
ada
county,
so
not
just
the
city
of
boise.
I
Our
response
focuses
on
being
coordinated
on
responding
quickly
and
then,
of
course,
having
or
providing
the
right
size
and
right
scope
of
services,
and
you
can
imagine
dealing
with
humans
and
they
have
messy
lives
that
that
gets
difficult
at
times.
So
we're
meeting
these
goals
to
varying
degrees,
it
sort
of
depends
on
which
part
of
the
continuum
of
care
that
you're
working
within,
which
brings
me
to
sort
of
where
what
our
target
population
is
specifically.
I
So
these
numbers
we
can
kind
of
debate
where
they,
if
they're
exactly
right
or
sort
of
the
precision
of
these
numbers,
but
they
come
from
the
american
community
survey
and
basically
they
say
that
most
households
in
nata
county
are
stably
housed
about
27
percent
of
households
are
cost
burdened,
their
their
housing
is
cost
burden
and
then
less
than
one
percent
is
literally
unhoused,
so
that
27
percent
at
risk.
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
it
a
little
bit
because
for
owner
occupied
homes,
it's
something
closer
to
20
percent
for
renter
occupied
homes.
I
I
Okay,
so
our
housing
strategies-
what
are
we
doing?
The
interventions
that
we
offer
that
really
do
are
housing
specific,
are
four-fold.
Some
of
these
a
handful
of
these
are
highly
evidence-based.
They
have
clear
outcomes,
others
are
a
bit
more
exploratory
and
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit,
but
these
four
prevention
diversion
rapid
resolution
and
supportive
housing
is
where
we
are
focusing
our
efforts
on
those
at-risk
households
and
those
that
are
literally
unhoused.
I
I
It
can
also
translate
to
landlord
mediation,
some
connections
to
community
resources,
there's
sort
of
a
broad
swath
of
services
that
we
provide.
We
want
to
be
able
to
focus
resources
on
those
that
are
the
most
likely
to
experience
literal
homelessness
and
we're
challenged
in
doing
that
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
I
Secondly,
the
evidence
base
around
the
factors
that
influence
why
a
household
would
fall
into
literal
homelessness
is
thin
and
it's
being
built
every
day
sort
of
as
we
speak.
So
what
I
mean
by
that
is
why
a
family
would
not
be
in
shelter
tonight
on
the
tuesday
and
then
have
to
access
that
shelter
on
a
wednesday
there's
not
a
clean
sort
of
one-for-one
relationship
there.
That
pathway
looks
different
for
everyone.
I
People
may
call
a
friend
they
may
stay
with
a
family
member,
they
might
be
able
to
afford
a
hotel
for
a
few
nights.
However,
I
will
say
that
currently,
the
fun
sources
that
we
have
for
homelessness
prevention
are
geared
towards
helping
leaseholders.
So
we
have
this
gap.
Population
of
folks
that
are
doubled
up.
I
They
might
be
transitioning
out
of
an
institution,
they
might
be,
have
experienced
a
job
loss
and
then
can't
show
income
sustainability
and
we
do
not
have
a
fund
source
right
now
to
serve
that
kind
of
gap.
Population,
that's
not
leased
up
and
can't
show
sustainable
income.
I
The
other
point
I
want
to
make
about
prevention-
and
I
don't
mean
to
get
too
far
into
the
weeds
with
you
all.
I
do
want
to
keep
it
high
level
today
and
then
respond
to
questions
that
you
may
have,
but
there's
this
idea
around
efficiency
and
effectiveness
with
prevention
and
most
certainly
we
want
to
be
effective.
We
want
to
keep
people
off
the
street
and
out
of
shelter.
I
However,
most
of
the
prevention
work
that
we've
done
today
is
something
called
universal
prevention,
and
that
means
we
serve
anybody
that
shows
up
anybody
that
raises
their
hands
and
says
hey.
I
need
help.
Universal
prevention
is
effective,
meaning
that
most
of
the
people
we
intervene
with.
Don't
then
experience
literal
homelessness,
but
it's
inefficient
because
most
of
those
folks
weren't
going
to
anyway,
it
doesn't
sort
of
allow
for
that
resiliency
and
it
doesn't
really
allow
for
that
opportunity
for
households
to
self-resolve
and
just
figure
it
out.
I
Okay,
so
diversion
this
is
all
about
a
problem-solving
conversation
if
we
didn't
get
to
you
in
time
and
we
weren't
able
to
prevent
that
instance
of
homelessness
and
you're
now
presenting
either
at
coordinated
entry
which
we'll
talk
about,
if
you
haven't
heard
of
it
or
at
the
emergency
shelter.
This
is
a
problem
solving
conversation
at
the
front
door
of
the
homeless
services
system.
So
we
should
be
having
these
conversations
at
coordinated
entry.
We
should
be
having
them
in
the
emergency
shelter.
I
I
I
want
to
be
clear
that
this
is
not
a
denial
of
service,
but
rather
it's
a
conversation
about
what
can
we
connect
you
with
today?
What's
better
than
you
entering
shelter
tonight,
oftentimes
in
other
communities,
we've
seen
a
lot
of
success
with
this,
but
it
comes
along.
A
flexible
fund
source
comes
alongside
it
and
we
don't
have
that
pot
of
money
here.
Yet.
I
I
Most
of
them
don't
have
income
or
haven't
been
connected
to
an
income
source,
yet
more
than
likely
have
a
disability
have
been
experiencing
homelessness
for
a
long
time.
New
path
and
dollar
point
are
examples.
Those
certainly
both
those
fall
under
the
umbrella
of
what's
called
permanent
supportive
housing.
So
it's
an
expensive
intervention,
but
it's
effective.
I
We
also
have
an
intervention
called
rapid
rehousing
and
that
provides
sort
of
more
midterm
support.
Six
months,
nine
months,
twelve
months
up
to
two
years,
depending
on
the
needs
of
the
household,
we're
kind
of
working
on.
In
some
cases,
getting
them
started
in
rapid
rehousing,
seeing
how
they
do
and
then
sort
of
leveling
up
if
we
need
to
and
transitioning
them
to
a
more
permanent
subsidy
if
they
need
that
rental
support
and
or
the
case
management.
I
So
one
of
those
is
through
coordinated
entry.
It
is
the
access
point
into
the
homeless
services
system.
It's
where
we
prioritize
households
for
supportive
housing.
That
was
a
wait
list
or
queue
that
I
referred
to
earlier.
The
prioritized
queue
street
outreach
is
designed
to
build
rapport,
develop
relationships
with
people,
particularly
those
that
are
unsheltered
that
are
otherwise
disconnected
from
say,
a
case
manager
in
the
shelter
and
that's
really
an
effort
to
draw
those
folks
into
services.
I
They
have
been
tremendous
during
our
response
to
covid19
and
they
give
them
a
lot
of
credit
for
the
very
low
number
of
people
experiencing
homelessness
that
have
actually
contracted
covid.
So
we
have
gaps
in
the
system.
Certainly
we
have
funding
gaps.
We
have
some
procedural
and
programmatic
and
policy
gaps.
We
certainly
don't
have
all
of
the
mechanisms
in
place
yet
to
sort
of
bridge
between
interventions,
but
that
is
what
some
of
our
focus
has
been.
I
So
let
me
just
run
you
through
quickly
what
the
strategic
initiatives
are
in
our
efforts
under
each
of
those
and
then
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
feel
free
to
interrupt
so
current
efforts.
First,
one
listed
here
aligning
city
funds,
and
this
has
this
also
has
to
do
with
the
neighbors
in
need
code
amendment,
so
they
think
we'll
talk
more
about,
and
then
you
might
see
again
next
week.
I
I
You
probably
are
all
well
aware
that
we've
secured
a
couple
of
hotels,
one
for
our
families
and
medically
fragile.
That's
also
opened
up
some
space
to
interfaith,
for
them
to
socially
distance
a
little
better
and
also
serve
more
people,
and
then
we
have
a
second
hotel
location
for
anyone
who
is
presumptive,
positive
or
positive
for
covid19
interfaith
is
also
managing
that
hotel
site
for
us
we're
also
reevaluating
the
coordinated
entry.
We've
branded
coordinated
entry,
our
path
home
connect.
I
We
have
an
our
path
home
outreach
team,
it's
new
as
of
february,
and
we
are
looking
into.
They
have
had
a
lot
of
success
so
far
and
we're
looking
into
how
we
can
broaden
their
reach,
broaden
their
scope
working
closely
with
bpd
behavioral
health
from
health
and
the
department
of
health
and
welfare.
I
Of
course,
our
outreach
team
and
our
coordinated
entry
team
ada
county
ems,
so
we're
working
on
how
we
might
be
able
to
develop
something,
that's
cross
agency
to
make
sure
that
we're
continuing
to
all
row
in
the
same
direction
and
that
we're
outreaching
or
that
we're
reaching
out
to
the
right
folks
and
then.
Lastly,
this
sort
of
dovetails
with
the
conversation
you
all
were
just
having,
but
we're
exploring
how
to
create
a
business
plan
for
landlord
and
property
partner
participation.
I
What
I
think
that
might
look
like
is
dedicated
units
and
we
are
trying
to
put
together
kind
of
something
that
acknowledges
a
landlord's
bottom
line.
It's
one
thing
to
sort
of
attend
to
their
heartstrings
but
another
to
acknowledge
and
take
into
consideration
their
bottom
line.
What
would
it
take
for
them
to
dedicate
units
to
our
partnership
so
that
we
know
when
there's
a
vacancy
there,
that
we
can
fill
that
vacancy
with
somebody
on
our
queue
with
the
household
on
our
queue?
I
I
Okay,
so
you
have
probably
heard
a
bit
about
this
already.
We
are
underway
with
a
campaign
to
end
family
homelessness.
We're
sort
of
in
that
planning
stage
of
it
and
moving
into
sort
of
getting
up
and
running
our
leadership
cabinet
is
formed.
Their
focus
area
is
fundraising.
I
We
have
a
handful
of
small
contracts.
The
county
holds
one
with
dvd
group
on
that
fundraising:
piece:
they're,
sort
of
leading
out
facilitating
the
leadership
cabinet.
The
home
partnership
foundation
is
our
fiscal
agent
and
then
agnew
beck
has
come
alongside
us
for
the
other
two
focus
areas,
those
being
storytelling.
I
So
what
exactly
are
the
core
messages?
And
how
do
we
want
to
deliver
that
to
the
community
and
ask
for
their
partnership?
Speaking
of
and
then
a
solutions,
implementation
team
I
mentioned,
we
have
gaps,
we
have
a
lot
of
ideas
about
how
we
can
close
those,
and
it
will
involve
some
policy
and
procedural
changes
and
then
some
flexible
funding
as
well.
I
The
goal
there
is
to
achieve
net
zero.
It's
also
termed
functional
zero,
so
prevent
more
families
from
even
having
to
access
the
homeless
services
system.
But
then,
if
they
do
the
number
that
access
should
equal,
we
should
have
the
system
capacity
to
house
them.
So
a
should
equal
b.
The
number
accessing
equals
the
number
housed
and
we
want
to
do
that
within
30
days.
I
This
is
where
we
have
been
in
2019.
This
is
just
families.
We
prevented
homelessness
for
109
families
last
year.
That
number
is,
it
is
in
fact
larger,
but
a
couple
of
our
prevention
providers
don't
enter
data
into
our
homeless
management
information
system.
This
number
will
be
eclipsed
this
year.
Last
year,
209
we
did
291
assessments
with
families
at
coordinated
entry.
We
housed
101
of
them
at
any.
Given
time
there
was
237
families
on
our
queue.
I
That
number
is
a
little
inflated
because
we
don't
always
have
time
to
quote
unquote
scrub
the
queue,
so
a
lot
of
families
will
figure
it
out
and
then,
when
we
are
able
to
circle
back
to
them,
we
can
pull
them
on
the
list
because
they've
identified
their
own
solution,
but
that
was
the
average
last
year
and
the
big
maybe
eyesore
here
is
it's
taking
us
a
long
time
right
now,
so
we
need
to
kind
of
open
some
new
checkout
lanes.
If
you
will,
through
the
campaign
to
get
people,
families
into
housing,.
I
Reduced
first-time
homelessness,
the
vast
majority
of
of
people
entering
the
system
are
experiencing
homelessness
for
the
first
time.
So
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work.
I
We
have
a
work
group
that
meets
about
bi-weekly
and
I
spoke
to
this
earlier,
so
I
won't
belabo
belabor
it,
but
there's
some
nuances
here
between
instability
prevention,
which
happens
pretty
far
upstream
and
literal
homeless
prevention,
which
is
that
more
targeted
approach,
so
we're
looking
into
that
and
making
some
good
headway
there
and
then
we're
exploring
a
diversion
strategy
in
the
fall
we'll
be
bringing
in
an
expert
from
the
national
alliance
to
end
homelessness,
to
do
a
training
with
all
our
frontline
staff.
I
On
what
this
problem-solving
conversation
looks
like
and
then
also
exploring
that
gap
population
I
mentioned
earlier:
they're
not
likely
to
be
the
population
that
you
can
cut
a
check
to
for
first
month's,
rent
and
deposit
or
back
rent
and
say
good
luck
and
thank
you.
They're
gonna
need
a
little
bit
of
a
longer
term
support
but
there's
some
tension
I'll
say
between
priorities,
because
we've
got
highly
vulnerable
people
on
the
street
and
arguably
less
vulnerable
people,
maybe
in
hotels
or
doubled
up.
I
So
how
do
you
sort
of
distribute
funds
to
their
highest
and
best
use,
we're
still
kind
of
working
on
that
and
then,
lastly
scaling
supportive
housing?
We
know
supportive
housing
works.
We
know
that
there's
a
handful
of
people
that
really
struggle
in
housing
and
that
we
really
struggle
to
meet
their
needs.
I
You
know
specifically,
as
an
example
there's
a
couple
of
folks
that
have
cycled
and
then
out
of
new
path
or
we've
tried
them
in
another
setting
and
it's
really
really
difficult,
but
for
most
people
by
and
large
supportive
housing
works
and
our
data
demonstrates
that
so
again,
working
on
creating
bridges
between
fund
sources
right
now,
we're
sort
of
beholden
to
you
know
primarily
federal
rules
and
regulations,
because
that's
our
primary
fund
source
ensuring
the
right
amount
of
resources
at
the
right
time.
This
is
a
staff
capacity
issue.
I
Finding
assisting
finding
sustainable
funding
for
support
services,
we're
kind
of
at
the
mercy
right
now
of
a
bit
of
a
charity
approach
there
and
we
need
to
find
something.
That's
more
more
strategic,
more
sustainable.
A
lot
of
other
communities
and
states
are
doing
it
through
the
through
medicaid
expansion.
That's
a
heavier
lift
in
idaho,
so
we're
exploring.
I
You
know
how
we
can
make
that
work
and
or
work
around
that,
of
course,
completing
another
permanent
housing
project
rises
to
the
top
for
us
in
terms
of
priorities
and
then
again
not
to
get
too
specific
here.
But
we
don't
have
that
midterm
support
what
we
call
rapid
rehousing
for
single
adults.
It
exists
for
families,
that's
one
reason
we're
starting
on
the
family
side
with
the
campaign.
I
D
D
I
I
So
that
comes
to
mind
right
away
too,
and
this
is
sort
of
squishy
but
continuing
to
lean
on
and
and
help
us
build
the
scaffolding
of
the
partnership,
and
then
I
think,
if,
if
that
paves
way
for
our
executive
committee
to
come
back
and
say
to
you
mayor
council,
these
are
our
priorities
and
this
is
our
plan.
I
would
hope
that
that
would
give
you
the
comfort
going
forward
that
these
are
some
priorities
we
can.
I
We
can
go
after
mayor
and
council
have
already
pledged
support
for
the
campaign
to
end
family
homelessness,
and
we
owe
you
something
on
that.
I
need
to
sort
of
circle
back
on
where,
specifically
that
funding
will
go
and
then
I'm
really
eager
and
excited
to
talk
through
a
pipeline
for
supportive
housing
new
path.
D
Madam
mayor,
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on,
I
mean,
I
think,
a
lot
of
people
don't
think
about
the
work
that
you
all
are
doing
as
a
strategic
investment
in
our
city,
and
we
can
save
so
much
money
downstream
and
help
so
many
more
people
by
doing
some
of
this
upstream
work.
So
I
think
it's
really
important
to
view
it.
That
way.
D
I
think
the
sticker
shock
is
sometimes
a
lot,
but
when
you
look
at
how
much
money
is
saved,
for
example
by
our
path
home
or
I'm
sorry,
by
new
path,
I
was
out
with
with
officer
nixon
on
a
bike
along
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
and
he
gave
me
just
one
example
of
a
gentleman
who's
been
living
at
new
path
who
had
before
he
was
at
newpath.
Had
several
interventions
per
year
and
just
kind
of
ticking
up.
The
bill
of
those
interventions
was
like.
D
D
So
I
think
that
with
the
community
thinking
about
it
in
those
terms,
rather
than
just
what
the
upfront
cost
is,
I
think
it's
really
a
great
investment
of
you
know:
taxpayer
funds
and
also
a
great
investment
in
our
residents
who
just
need
a
hand
up.
So
thank
you
for
all
of
your
work
and
if
you
need
any
help,
just
let
me
know.
J
You
thank
you
so
much
maureen.
This
is
powerful
information
and
very
timely.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
acknowledging
the
equity
piece
and
I
would
very
much
be
interested
in
offering
any
sort
of
guidance
about
how
to
do
outreach
to
those
communities.
J
I
part
of
my
past
life
was
working
for
the
intermountain
for
housing,
council
and
and
so
this
issue.
If
housing
discrimination
is
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
and
was
a
fair
housing
tester,
and
so
I
think
people
would
be
surprised
because
we
do
live
in
a
kind
city,
but
we
do
have
ins
instances
of
discrimination
against
housing
against
people
of
color
and
other
marginalized
groups,
and
so
I
very
much
would
like
to
talk
to
you
about
that
about
how
to
reach
those
communities.
H
I
unmuted
before,
and
then
I
decided
I
should
mute
again
while
lisa
was
talking.
Sorry
about
that.
So
thanks
again
maureen.
I
appreciate
this.
I
think
some
of
this
information
is
is
probably
new
for
some
of
our
council
members
and
you
did
a
really
thorough
job
painting
the
full
picture
of
the
things
we
do.
H
So
my
questions
and
comments
are
what
kind
of
along
the
lines
of
councilmember
woodings,
what
what's
most
valuable
for
us,
but
I'd
like
to
maybe
expand
the
lens
a
little
bit
as
we
talk
about
that
and
and
figure
out
what
are
all
of
the
things
that
need
done,
not
just
the
ones
that
potentially
the
city
is
being
asked
to
do,
but
but
things
the
state
could
do.
H
You
mentioned
medicaid
expansion,
for
instance,
things
the
county
potentially
can
do
now
that
medicaid
expansion
is
happening
in
a
way
that
may
free
up
some
of
their
other
funds,
other
community
groups
and
other
community
members-
and
I
don't
expect
you
to
have
any
answers
to
that
tonight.
H
But
I
I'm
hoping,
as
you
talked
about
one
of
the
things
that
would
be
most
valuable
for
us
as
council
members
is
building
that
collaboration
building
those
partnerships
that
we
can
begin
working
as
a
council
with
you
to
paint
that
bigger
picture
so
that
we
can
begin
to
understand.
What's
the
best
place
for
us
to
play.
What's
the
best
place
for
another
of
our
partners
to
play,
does
that
make
sense
to
you.
I
Madam
mayor
president
clegg,
it
it
does
entirely,
and
I
think
it's
a
both
and
I
suspect
there
would
be
additional
asks
for
mayor
and
council
that
are
specific
and
then
also
some
more
direction
and
maybe
more
frequent
updates
about
what
the
partnership
is
up
to.
I
Why
we're
taking
this
approach
and
sort
of
again,
I
use
this
term
with
funding
specifically,
but
how
we
can
use
you
to
leverage
some
of
those
partnerships
and
put
them
to
their
highest
and
best
use.
If
you
will.
I
also
think
I
probably
owe
you
some
core
messaging.
It's
taken
us
a
long
time
to
develop
some
of
that
council
pro
tem
woodings
hit
on
it.
There
is
a
public
service
benefit
that
has
been
articulated
specifically
for
new
path,
but
not
overall.
H
Great
great,
so
here's
my
two
specific
questions
you
talked
about
what's
next
in
terms
of
supportive
housing,
permanent,
supportive
housing,
you
mentioned
a
number
that
actually
made
my
heart
do
a
couple
of
jumps
because
I
was
hoping
it
wasn't
that
big
and
my
I
guess
my
question
to
you-
is
how
many
chronically
homeless
individuals
do.
We
have
having
opened
both
new
house
and
balor
point
that
are
good
candidates
for
that
kind
of
permanent
supportive
housing,
not
long-term
acute
care,
but
but
really
permanent,
supportive
housing.
Do
we
have
a
any
idea?
I
Madam
mayor
president,
clay,
I
can
get
you
that
number.
I
hate
to
name
a
specific
one
here
today,
but
I
can
get
you
that
number
it
does.
It
does
fluctuate
a
couple
of
things
one.
There
is
a
very
detailed
and
technical
definition
of
chronic
homelessness,
and,
while
I
report
out
on
that
to
the
u.s
department
of
housing
and
urban
development,
their
hud
has
started
to
acknowledge
that
there
is
a
subset
of
the
population
that
doesn't
meet
the
quote-unquote
record-keeping
requirements
for
chronic
homelessness.
I
I
I
wouldn't
be
scared
of
or
put
off
by,
the
number
I
threw
out.
It
was
just
to
kind
of
give
give
you
an
idea
of
what
we
could,
what
we
could
work
towards,
but
certainly
we
have
started
to
evaluate
the
trends
around
coordinated
entry
on
any
given
night.
There
is
several
hundred
upwards
of
a
thousand
folks
experiencing
homelessness
in
ada
county
and
then
that
number
grows,
if
you
include
those
that
are
doubled
up
or
maybe
hoteling
for
the
night
or
a
few
nights.
I
H
Well,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
specific,
but
at
least
a
range
would
be
helpful
and
and
so
then
medicaid
expansion.
You
mentioned
that.
I
guess
I
would
tell
you
that's
something
I'm
interested
in.
I
do
think
it's
something
that
for
a
portion
of
that
population
that
may
not
be
well
suited
to
less
intense
support
in
the
permanent
supportive
housing.
H
I
think
we
might
really
want
to
explore
with
the
state-
and
I
know
it's
kind
of
a
heavy
lift,
but
I
wonder
if
we
approach
it
as
a
demonstration
or
a
pilot
if
we
might
find
more
receptive
partners,
so
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
I'm
very
interested
in
that
as
a
as
a
you
know,
council
member,
if,
if
you
need
a
champion
on
that
particular
issue,.
A
I
H
And
madam
marriage,
just
to
clarify
our,
I
think
we're
going
to
put
off
the
three
readings
of
the
neighbor
in
need.
Ordinance.
Now
that
we've
had
this
conversation
we
can
put
it
back
on
for
next
week
is.
Is
that
true?
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
Okay,
great!
Thank
you.
Yes,.