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From YouTube: Boise City Council - Work Session
Description
4:00 PM Tuesday, April 5, 2022
A
E
D
At
that
meeting,
we
presented
or
previewed
two
alternative
concept
designs
which
are
stacked
here
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen,
and
we
believe
both
of
those
meet
the
objectives
of
the
project
concept.
One
on
the
upper
portion
of
the
screen
really
is
a
standard
streetscape
and
implements
elements
that
we're
familiar
with
throughout
downtown.
D
D
In
plan
view,
we
see
concept
one
here
with
the
continuous
wider
sidewalks
and
single
row
street
trees
on
each
side.
Bull
belts
would
be
located
at
each
of
the
pedestrian
crossings
and
the
former
railroad
spurs
located
at
the
north-south
alleys
on
each
block
would
be
enhanced,
with
a
slightly
different
paving
scheme,
which
would
enhance
the
pedestrian
experience
as
well
as
calm
traffic
by
visually
breaking
up
the
corridor.
D
Four
accessible
or
four
on-street
accessible
parking
stalls
would
be
provided
one
on
each
block
face
of
the
corridor
and
for
comparison
concept.
Two
here
showing
that
dual
row
street
trees
very
similar
sidewalk.
We
would
get
about
four
additional
feet
of
sidewalk
with
this
alternative
over
over
concept.
One
and
the
reduction
in
the
street
is
about
twenty
percent
of
the
overall
street
width.
D
We
should
mention
that
one
thing
we
are
considering
it's
really
more
of
a
design
detail
to
work
through
pds
and
achd
during
final
design,
but
we
are
considering
some
alternative
paving
treatments
for
the
parking
lane,
which
would
have
a
traffic
calming
benefit
as
well
as
some
environmental
benefit,
specifically
we're.
Looking
at
some
previous
paver
treatments
for
that
parking,
lane,
veneme.
D
G
B
C
The
other
area
that
we
really
have
focused
on
since
we
last
met
with
you
is
more
of
a
general
public
input
through
an
online
survey
that
was
conducted
mid-february
and
we've
really
sort
of
synthesized
some
of
those
results
and
used
those
to
inform
how
we
might
move
forward.
Also,
we
did
do
a
virtual,
open
house,
and
then
we
have
met
with
other
stakeholder
groups
sort
of
separately
as
one-offs,
one
of
those
being
the
accessible
parking
committee
where
they
confirmed
sort
of
the
recommendations
we
have
for
parking
or
the
ada
parking
stall
locations.
C
So
in
in
all
of
the
public
engagement
that
we've
done
so
far,
really
we're
trying
to
identify
kind
of
three
areas
for
input,
the
first
of
those
being
sort
of
what
is
their
impression
of
fulton
street
today.
What
are
the
programming
priorities
that
they
have
and
or
want
to
see
for
fulton
street?
And
then
finally,
you
know
we
did
present
these
two
concepts
and
we
asked
them
specifically
to
pick
one
of
the
two
options.
C
So
we
just
wanted
to
start
off
with
some
of
the
comments
that
we
received
through
the
public
engagement
process,
trying
to
identify
what
people
thought
of
fulton
street.
Today
there
were
a
small
group
that
had
some
somewhat
positive
thoughts
on
fulton
street
today,
where
you
know
it
is
quiet
because
it's
not
a
through
street,
so
it's
got
lower
traffic.
C
You
can
see
that
over
two-thirds
of
the
respondents
from
the
public
survey
did
prefer
concept
number
two
many
people
had
comments
that
were
along
the
lines
of
you
know.
Streets
should
be
designed
for
people.
We
want
pedestrian
oriented,
so
I
think
that's
sort
of
why
we
found
those
results,
and
then
you
see
about
a
third
a
little
less
than
a
third
of
them
preferred
concept
number
one,
and
then
we
did
give
them
the
option
to
say.
Okay.
C
If,
if
you
wanted
to
pick
and
choose,
would
you
like
to
see
sort
of
a
combination
of
the
two
that
maybe
would
get
back
some
of
the
parking
or
some
of
the
other
components
that
you
wanted
to
see
in
the
final
product?
But
but
by
and
large,
certainly
concept.
Number
two
is
the
preferred
option,
which
is
the
urban
canopy
option?
C
We
then
sort
of
contrasted
that
with
our
individual
interviews,
with
the
property
owners
and
and
of
course,
what
you
find
when
it
comes
to
programming
elements.
Is
it
it's
somewhat
reverse,
and
that
is
again
because
they're
concerned
primarily
about
business
operations
and
sort
of
accessibility
for
folks,
so
on
street
parking
sort
of
rises
to
the
top
of
their
list
of
priorities
and
then
also
maintaining
service
and
loading
opportunities.
C
But
then
also
they
do
want
to
have
wider
sort
of
sidewalks
for
cafe
dining
and
folks
to
more
easily
get
from
one
end
of
this
area
to
the
other.
What
you
can
see
there
sort
of
in
the
image
of
the
map
is,
we
did
explicitly
ask
them
to
to
identify
which
one
they
would
prefer
and
we
got
sort
of
a
mixed
bag
of
responses
there.
There
were
several
that
did
say
that
they
preferred
concept
number
one
again.
Parking
was
primarily
the
concern
that
motivated
them
to
make
that
decision.
C
You
had
one
that
preferred
concept
number
two
and
then
the
ones
that
are
identified
in
peak
they
preferred
concept
number
one
unless
there
might
be
future
structured
parking
in
the
area,
and
you
know
sort
of
high
level
they
like
the
idea
of
having
more
trees
wider
sidewalks.
But
if,
if
the
requirement
was
that
they
gave
away
their
parking
that
they
just
could
not
couldn't
get
there.
G
D
Madam
mayor
and
council
member,
we
we
don't
have
solid
timelines
for
that.
The
owner
of
that
parking
lot
does
have
plans
police
conceptual
plans
for
high
density
residential
on
that
parcel,
I'm
not
sure
how
far
along
in
the
process
he
is,
but
he
has
expressed
an
interest
to
redevelop
that
yes,
okay,.
G
D
A
D
C
Thank
you
and
just
to
finish
up
this
slide.
The
last
two
that
are
in
a
those
two
didn't
have
a
strong
opinion
between
either
of
the
concepts,
because
in
either
concept
they
saw
on
street
parking
and
a
wide
sidewalk
right
in
front
of
their
their
building.
So
they
didn't
have
a
strong
preference
and
didn't
want
to
commit
to
one
or
the
other
as
we
we
sat
down
with
them
so
sort
of.
As
we
looked
at
how
we
would
get
somewhere
that
might
please
sort
of
all
of
the
stakeholder
groups.
C
We
are
exploring
the
idea
of
doing
a
hybrid
concept
that
takes
components
of
both
concept,
1
and
concept,
2
to
try
and
sort
of
give
everyone
what
they
want
and
try
and
achieve
as
many
goals
as
we
can
on
this
on
this
project.
So
what
we
would
take
from
concept
one,
which
is
the
concept
that
generally
was
preferred
by
the
property
owners,
is
more
of
the
single
roofs
trees
and
still
having
that
entry
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
road.
So
we're
not
eliminating
any
parking
with
that
concept
other
than
what
the
standards
will
allow.
D
D
The
proposed
sidewalks
are
still
between
19
feet
and
24
feet,
and
while
they
may
not
be
as
wide
as
sidewalks
say,
on
broad
street
in
front
of
boise
brewing
or
some
of
the
wider
sidewalks
and
boto
they're
still
significant
sidewalks
compared
to
the
majority
of
those
found
downtown
which
are
in
the
range
of
13
to
16
feet
so
for
a
sense
of
scale.
We
still
achieve
a
fairly
nice
pedestrian
realm.
D
The
design
team
took
a
stab
at
creating
a
concept
layout
of
the
hybrid
that
christopher
previewed
there
and,
as
shown
on
the
screen
here
so
between
capital
and
eighth
street.
On
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
quarter
we
elected
to
put
the
dual
row
of
trees
on
the
north
side,
as
that
would
be
the
side
of
the
street.
That
would
get
the
most
solar
exposure
during
the
heat
of
summer
and
could
hopefully
have
the
best
benefit
from
that
increased
street
tree
canopy.
D
So
a
couple
things
that
lend
itself
towards
putting
trees
on
the
south
side,
so
the
hybrid
really
does
meld
together
characteristics
of
each
of
the
two
original
concepts
and
we
feel
it
does
meet
the
goals
of
the
project
as
well
as
meeting
the
desires
of
the
property
owners,
which
are
generally
as
christopher
mentioned,
to
keep
on
street
parking
and,
as
we
mentioned
earlier
on
the
topic
of
parking
since
off-street
parking
is
no
longer
as
as
secure
as
we
thought.
It
was
previously
that
elevates
the
consequence
of
removing
parking
on
fulton
for
this
neighborhood.
D
F
C
Yeah,
I'm
adam
marin,
council
member.
We
actually
were
able
to
increase
our
trees
even
a
little
more
from
concept
number
two,
because
once
we
realized
there
was
a
priority
to
keep
them.
We
tightened
the
grid
so
that
we
did
end
up,
I
think
more
along
the
line
or
what
what
are
the
two
numbers
we
have
currently
32.
D
Madam
mayor
and
council
member,
I
can
skip
down
here
to
a
slide
where
we,
we
did
actually
tally
that
there's
about
55
total
parking
stalls
right
now,
but
it
is
a
mismatch
of
perpendicular
parking
and
parallel
parking,
as
well
as
some
privately
signed
parking
in
the
right-of-way.
So
we
we
understand
it's
about
55,
publicly
accessible
stalls
right
now.
H
D
F
I
D
Madam
mayor
council,
member
thanks
for
that
question,
so
we
received
some
comments
from
achd.
That
indicated
they
would
not
allow
the
33
foot
cross-section.
Why
not?
They
have
a
policy
section
that
dictates
commercial
street
minimums
are
36
feet
even
though,
generally
speaking,
their
policy
identifies
a
33-foot
minimum
corridor.
We
did
discuss
that
with
boise
fire
early
on
in
the
process.
We
knew
that
would
be
a
issue.
I
With
I
would
be
happy
to
take
that
to
the
commission
and
ask
for
a
waiver
on
that
at
least
go
for
34..
I
don't
see
any
reason
we
should
stick
with
36
just
because
they
have
a
policy
without
asking
for
a
waiver.
I
think
we
too
often
say:
oh,
they
have
a
policy.
We
should
sorry.
We
can't
do
that
and
I
don't
know
how
others
feel.
But
I'm
happy
to
start
asking
for
waivers
on
this
stuff.
I
J
D
J
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
there's
any
attempt
to
mitigate
people
with
large
rumbling
loud
smoking
vehicles
harassing
people,
because
we've
experienced
that
the
last
couple
of
years,
people's
outdoor
enjoyment
of
outdoor
eating
establishments,
I
mean
we
were
able
to
curb
some
of
it
in
closing
down
8th
street,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
any
going
to
be
any
mitigation
of
that,
so
that
people
can
truly
enjoy
it.
The
way
businesses
intend
for
them
to
enjoy
it.
D
J
F
F
A
F
F
H
Mayor
I'm
going
to
support
the
motion.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
listening.
This
is
really
hard
to
try
to
please
everyone.
I
think
you've
come
up
with
a
great
solution.
I'm
really
pleased
that
you
reached
out
to
the
businesses,
try
to
hone
down
on
what
their
concerns
were
and
big
parking
matters
downtown,
and
particularly
now
that
we
are
going
to
have
some
of
the
investments
that
we
thought
were
going
to
have
just
appreciate
you
doing
all
that
you
can
to
take
the
best
of
both.
So
thank
you.