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From YouTube: Boise City Council - Work Session
Description
March 15, 2022
A
C
Talking
about
the
phase
two
improvements,
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
come
in
and
talk
to
mayor
and
council
about
phase
two
is
on
we're,
anticipating
on
march
29th,
to
have
on
on
the
council
next
council
meeting
on
consent
agenda
will
be
two
contracts:
two
master
service
agreements
for
one
for
design,
services
and
one
for
construction
services.
So
that's
that's
where
we're
gonna
spend
our
time
and
then
we'll
wrap
it
up
with
just
a
brief
overview
of
what
else
water
renewal
has
going
on.
C
So
with
like
most
things,
we
do.
We
plan
we
fund,
we
execute
and
in
october
of
2020,
we
ended
up
finalizing
with
the
city
council,
adopting
the
water
renewal
utility
plan
that
that
sets
a
strategic
direction
for
the
utility
for
the
next
several
decades.
It
was
done
with
considerable
public
engagement.
As
we
like
to
say,
it
was
a
plan
for
boise
built
by
boise.
C
Once
we
completed
that,
then
it
was
time
to
figure
out
the
funding
strategy
and
again
with
the
mayor
and
city
council
direction,
we
went
out
to
the
to
the
citizens
and
asked
them
to
vote
on
which
type
of
financing
they
which
funding
source
or
strategy
they'd
like
to
follow
either
through
rates
or
maybe
a
combined
rate
and
bond
financing,
and
we
heard
hearing
back
from
them.
They
were
in
favor
of
seeking
the
the
bond
bond
financing
along
with
some
some
rate
increases
as
well.
C
So
having
the
plan
done,
the
fun
done
it's
now
time
to
get
into
the
execution
and
that's
we're
going
to
focus
today's
discussion.
So
lander
street
water
renewal
facilities
just
get
everybody
orientated
the
facilities
here
to
the
north.
This
is
state
street
and
then
we've
got
veterans,
memorial,
parkway
kind
of
to
the
east
boise
river
down
here
to
the
south,
and
then
the
will
lane
sports
complex
over
kind
of
on
the
western
side,
I'm
going
to
change
perspectives
on
you
just
because
this
is
a
better
picture.
C
So
again
just
veterans
memorial,
parkway
here
and
then
this
here
is
the
boise
river.
So
phase
one
really
included
kind
of
three
major
components:
it
was
replace
the
headworks
which
was
located
here.
Here's
the
new
headworks
that
replaced
the
existing
headworks.
That
was
over
here
ultraviolet
disaffection.
We
built
a
new
facility.
This
is
the
new
facility
replacing
the
existing
facility
and
then
quite
a
bit
of
site,
work
and
utility
work
and
included
rerouting
the
greenbelt.
C
The
old
greenbelt
access
used
to
come
through
the
parking
lot,
but
with
the
expansion
of
the
site,
we
worked
with
the
parks
department
and
had
that
rerouted
along
here
and
then
installed
a
new
bathroom
down
in
the
corner
as
well
up
on
this
side
here.
This
was
this
was
a
item
that
was
brought
to
our
attention
from
the
homeowner
or
the
residents.
C
C
Here's
some
ground
shots
of
the
new
head,
works
on
the
right
and
then
the
ultraviolet
disinfection
on
the
left
and
then
kind
of
getting
to
the
performance
of
this
project.
So
again
this
this
this
project
started
three
years
ago.
The
initial
budget
was
65
about
65.4
million
estimated
that
completion
is
going
to
come
in
just
under
that
the
schedule.
Again,
you
know
starting
three
years
in
duration,
we
were
expecting
substantial.
C
So
I
really
do
just
want
to
kind
of
pause
here
for
a
moment
kind
of
just
recognize
josh
here
who
was
the
project
manager
during
that
and
to
be
able
to
kind
of
pull
this
off
is
just
remarkable
and-
and
you
know,
there's
one
other
item
we
like
to
always
remind
that
was
in
there
too,
to
shake
things
up.
We
threw
an
earthquake
in
there
as
well
and
that
that
was
pretty
scary
because
we
had
probably
our
deepest
excavation
at
that
point
and
I
think
josh's
phone
blew
up
just
to
because
everybody
was
worried.
C
We
lost
that
and
that
would
have
backed
us
up
quite
a
bit
so
and
then
josh.
Of
course
he
he
wants
me
to.
He
would
want
me
to
recognize
our
partners
in
the
project
as
well,
so
he's
nodding
his
head.
We
had
mcelveen
contractors
and
mcelveen
companies
who
was
the
contractor
on
it
and
then
the
design
team
of
jacobs
and
brown
and
caldwell,
and
it
was
really
a
combination
of
them
and
josh
who
were
able
to
kind
of
deliver
the
performance
of
the
project
so
pause
here
for
a
second.
D
D
E
E
We
bid
the
project
right
at
the
end
of
2019
finalized
that
number,
and
about
three
months
later
the
state
shut
down,
and
so
yes,
we
we
are
projected
to
come
in
just
below
and
again.
Jim
gives
me
a
lot
of
credit,
but
a
lot
of
the
credit
goes
to
mcelveen
and
the
jacobs
without
their
constant
partnering,
along
with
the
subcontracting
community
of
boise.
We
we
would
not
be
in
this
place
that
we
are
right
now.
D
It's
remarkable,
thank
you.
I
think
this
is
the
thing
that
taxpayers
love
to
hear
most.
This
is
a
massive
project.
You
know
it
was
a.
It
was
a
big
bond,
but
the
fact
that
the
city
is
doing
so
well,
I
think,
is
worthy
of
a
lot
of
praise
and
a
victory
lap,
and
I
know
that
you
know
these
costs
are
going
up
and
down,
but
the
fact
you've
been
able
to
do
this
to
date
truly
deserves
high
praise,
and
thank
you
adam.
F
G
G
Yeah,
that's
a
long
way
of
saying
that
it's
on
time
and
under
budget,
which
is
amazing
and
awesome.
I
recall
like
two
years
ago
a
conversation
about
something
different
being
done
in
the
design,
engineering
and
construction
there's
a
different
procedure.
We
were
going
to
use
and
we
had
hoped
that
it
would
produce
this
result.
Maybe
that's
not
responsible
for
I
don't
like.
Could
you
just
update
us
on
how
that's
going
and
how
that's
working.
E
Madam
mayor
councilmember
beijing,
yes,
we
did
employ
construction
manager,
general
contractor
cmgc,
it's
an
alternative
delivery,
construction
method
and
a
lot
of
the
the
savings
of
this
project
are
results
of
that.
So
our
our
partners
at
mcelvain
they
worked
with
the
subcontracting,
the
folks
that
we
did
have
on
site
to
say
how
can
we
save
the
city
money
and
we've
actually
received
quite
a
few
deductive
change
orders
and
that's
why
a
lot
of
what
you're
seeing
here
is
is
under
budget.
E
You
know
we,
we
would
figure
out
better
ways
to
build
it
than
what
was
originally
bid.
You
know
the
bid
process
can
be
pretty
chaotic,
it's
two
months
to
estimate
what
you're
going
to
do
for
the
next
three
years.
That's
a
pretty
tough
ask
for
the
subcontractor.
So
a
lot
of
times.
We
can
think
of
different
ways
to
get
things
done
and
to
make
better
financial
decisions
for
the
for
our
utility.
G
So
the
feedback
it
sounds
like
is
there's
a
word
for
it.
What's
the
name
for
the
for
that,
like
bringing
the
contractor
into
that,
like
there's
a
there's,
a
cool
phrase:
cmgc
see
it
so
the
content.
The
feedback
here
is
in
this
case.
Cmgc
worked
really
well,
and
it
might
be
something
that
we
continue
to
think
about
or
explore
big
thumbs
up
from
steve,
okay
cool.
Thank
you.
C
One
of
the
one
of
the
great
parts
about
it
is
josh
that
it
also
brings
kind
of
that
the
contractor
the
designer
and
the
owner
together
in
the
beginning.
So
as
we're
making
decisions,
the
contractors
on
board
to
say
you
can
make
that
decision,
here's
the
cost
associated
with
that,
and
especially
in
this
dynamic
market,
they
they
understand
where
the
costs
are.
Where
often
engineers
can
sometimes
be
kind
of
lagging
and
kind
of
miss
that
opportunity.
So
it's
a
it
was
a
very
successful
mechanism,
not
not
not
for
every
project.
C
C
So,
moving
on
to
phase
two,
so
again,
a
quick
orientation
over
here
is
veterans.
Memorial
parkway
down
on
the
bottom
is
the
boise
river.
So
the
items
in
blue
is
what
we
just
talked
about.
That
was
phase
one
and
then
the
items
in
green
is
what's
included
in
phase
two.
So
the
first
thing,
you'll
notice,
is
there's
a
lot
more
work
in
phase
two.
It's
a
about
three
times
as
much
work.
It'll
include
major
components
like
sludge
handling
and
process,
primary
sludge
handling
and
process
down.
C
Here
the
circles
are
primary
and
secondary
clarifiers
that
we'll
be
doing,
and
then
tertiary
filters
we'll
spend
some
time
talking
about
that
and
then
some
modifications
of
the
aeration
basin.
So
that's
kind
of
good
here.
So
again
we
talked
about
the
components
the
project
drivers.
Why
we're
doing
it?
The
first
one
is.
This
really
is
condition
is
I
think,
everybody's
familiar
with
this
facility
was
built
in
the
1950s.
C
Assets
have
been
replaced
over
time,
but
in
phase
two
there's
several
components
that
are
still
vintage
to
that
1950.
And
if
you
look
at
the
upper
left-hand
corner
picture,
that's
actually
a
look
inside
one
of
the
walls
of
the
primary
clarifiers
that
shouldn't
look
like
that.
It
shouldn't
have
all
that
exposed
aggregate.
It
should
look
more
like
a
smooth
sidewalk
or
a
smooth,
concrete
wall,
so
that
is
that
is
very
much
near
at
its
end
of
its
useful
life.
C
And
then
you
see
the
valve
on
the
bottom
again,
that's
probably
not
even
the
original
valve,
but
it's
probably
been
replaced
several
times:
water,
renewal
facilities,
they're,
very
caustic
environments,
very,
very
harsh
environments
that
are
hard
on
components.
As
you
can
see
in
the
pictures
so
anytime,
we
do
a
condition
project,
we're
always
looking
to
increase
capacity
again
this
plant,
this
facility's
been
there
since
the
1950s.
C
C
Tertiary
treatment
wanted
to
spend
a
little
time
on
this,
so
tertiary
treatments
used
to
remove
phosphorus
from
from
the
from
the
river
or
not
introduce
new
phosphorus
in
the
river
or
limit
the
amount.
Phosphorus
is
a
problem
in
the
river
because
it
can
it
causes
algae
growth
and
other
aquatic
growth
and
degradates
the
river.
So
this
new
compliance,
our
new
new
compliance,
that's
coming
up-
is
limiting
the
amount
that
we
can
continue
to
introduce
in
the
river,
but
with
this
new
with
our
new
new
permit,
it
does
allow
compliance
flexibility.
C
So,
in
the
old
days
it
was
like
each
facility
couldn't
exceed
this
amount
and
now,
basically,
what
we're
able
to
do
is
have
this
combined
load
approach
which
says:
here's
you
know,
here's
what
the
requirement
is
you
can't
as
a
utility?
You
cannot
introduce
more
than
this
amount.
How
you
do
it
is
up
to
you
if
you
want
to
take
it
out
of
one
facility
or
kind
of
move
it
across
the
board.
C
That's
up
to
you
and
then
that
really
helps
us
out
that
that
allows
this
flexibility
and
then
we
we
introduce
our
business
case
evaluation
where
we
can
find
out.
Where
can
I
spend
my
money
and
get
the
biggest
impact,
so
we've
got
three
facilities
that
help
us
do
this
and
some
other
programs
as
well,
but
focusing
on
the
three
facilities.
We
have
a
phosphorus
removal
facility,
which
is
an
existing
asset.
C
C
You
can
see
the
tertiary
how
we
move
that
clear
out
to
the
bottom
to
make
sure
we
we
get
that
right,
sized
and
then
the
estimated
budget,
so
we've
adopted
the
association
for
advancement
of
cost
engineering
is
cost
estimating
is
hard
and
if
you
were
good
at
it,
you'd
probably
do
pretty
well
in
this
world
and
just
with
all
the
variables
that
are
happening
out
there,
it's
difficult
so
the
aac
kind
of
has
it
has
five
different
classes.
Class
one
is
its
bid.
C
I
know
exactly
what
it's
going
to
cost
class
five
is
where
we
are
very
conceptual,
we
don't
know,
we've
got,
we've
got
a
good
idea.
What
we
want
to
do,
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
design
so
and
we're
still
able
to
produce
pretty
good
numbers
on
there
and
the
number
we're
coming
up
with
this
is
208.6
million
in
there,
though.
According
to
this,
this
estimating
method
is
based
on
what
we
know
it
could
be
as
much
as
100
100
higher
than
that
and
50
lower.
C
C
So
with
that
in
mind,
we
went
out.
We
did
through
a
the
rfq
process,
request
for
qualifications,
qualification
based
selection
and
put
it
out
for
the
design
and
construction
services
and
ended
up
with
the
same
team,
with
jacobs
and
brown
and
caldwell
on
the
design
and
the
services
during
con
construction
and
then
mcelveen
for
the
construction
services
and
we're
choosing
to
delete,
have
the
same
delivery
method
as
the
cmgc.
It
worked
in
phase
one.
It
worked
quite
well.
C
C
What's
what's
anticipated
to
be
on
the
next
city
or
the
city
council
meeting
in
on
the
29th
on
consent
agenda
will
be
two
contracts.
The
first
one
is
a
master
service
agreement
for
design
services.
So
what
we'll
be
asking
for
execution
of
is
to
execute
that
contract
with
a
ceiling
limit
of
30.8
million
dollars
for
the
design
services,
and
then
we
will
issue
task
orders,
as
we
have
several
contracts
like
this
currently
in
which
we
do
this
so
again,
what
what
the?
C
What
we
would
be
asking
for
is
the
approval
go
up
to
30.8
million
and
then,
as
josh
and
his
team
kind
of
determines
when
to
issue
the
other
task
orders
those
would
be
individually
set
up.
If
we
got
to
a
point,
we
exceeded
the
30.8
million.
We
would
be
back
in
front
of
council
asking
permission
to
increase
that
ceiling.
C
The
master
service
cons
agreement
for
construction
services
is
a
little
bit
different
again
set
the
ceiling
at
the
206.8
million
mark
and
then
each
gmp
guaranteed
maximum
price.
We
would
be
back
in
front
of
city
council
to
execute
and
ask
permission
to
do
those
contracts
and
again
those
would
likely
be
through
consent
agenda,
but
there's
those
actually
do
take
individual
action
for
each
of
them.
C
I
did
want
to
point
out
one
thing,
because,
if
you're
keeping
track
of
the
math,
you
might
be
well
wait
a
second,
I
saw
a
206.8
number
and
then
I
saw
a
30
point
number
and
those
don't
add
up
to
what
you
told
me.
It
would
cost,
and
this
is
where
it
gets
a
little
sticky
as
a
the
the
original
numbers
was
in
present
value.
20
21.
C
C
C
C
Some
of
our
reporting
and
pro
reporting
tracking
that
we're
gonna
do-
and
you
know
it's
great
to
great
to
know
where
you've
been
and
where
you
are,
but
almost
what's
more
important,
is
kind
of
where
you're
headed
and
if
we
can
see
things
where
we're
getting
off
track.
That
gives
us
time,
to
course
correct.
So
we'll
have
a
lot
of
reporting
on
schedule.
Performance
cost
performance
we'll
also
be
carrying
a
very
detailed
risk
register
decision
log
and
many
others-
and
this
is
kind
of
this.
C
This
would
be
kind
of
a
summary
for
more
public
works
leadership
and
we're
we're
trying
to
figure
out
ways
on
how
to
kind
of
share
the
performance
as
well
with
the
public
works
commission
and
then
having
discussions
is
how
we
can
provide
some
feedback
to
council
and
at
what
cadence.
We
do
that
in
the
same
sense,
the
utility
as
a
whole
is
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
working
on
kind
of
public
outward
facing
dashboards
for
the
public.
C
I
mean
we've
got
great
support
and
with
them
coming
in
on
the
bond
finance,
we
think
it's
important
that
we
keep
them
apprised
of
how
we're
doing
with
with
the
projects
and
then
kind
of
wrapping
it
up
here
kind
of
a
look
ahead
for
you.
So
we
talked
about
the
lander
street
water
renewal
facility
phase,
one
and
phase
two.
We
have
the
west
boise
water
renewal
facility
too,
and,
as
you
see,
we've
got
ultraviolet
disinfection
tertiary,
secondary
improvements.
C
It
should
all
sound
familiar,
that's
kind
of
what
we're
doing
at
phase
one,
so
it's
kind
of
phase
one
and
two
at
lander
street.
This
is
kind
of
rinse
and
repeat
so.
We're
gonna
go
through
the
whole
cycle.
Again,
we've
got
the
water
recycle
program
which
you're
gonna
hear
some
more
about
after
this
presentation
and
then
again
with
our
thousand
miles
of
pipe
out
there,
we've
always
got
conveyance
project
sewer
line
projects
going
on
from
small
diameter
to
large
diameter.
C
So
that's
a
look
at
kind
of
some
of
the
major
capital
things
that
we've
got
going
on
and
then
the
utilities
also
work
on
staffing
assessment,
organizational
planning,
we're
going
to
have
some
discussions
about
affordability,
policies,
cost
of
service
flows
and
loads
and
solids
and
howling.
So
I'm
sure
you
will
hear
about
all
these
over
the
next
few
years
and
in
different
formats,
so
that
wraps
up
our
presentations,
but
we'll
stand
for
any
questions
or
comments.
G
E
So
with
the
sorry,
madam
mayor
council,
member
holly,
burton
with
the
newer
facilities
that
we're
bringing
online
certainly
with
like
tertiary
treatment,
we're
we're
looking
at
expanding
the
operations
force
that
that's
a
new
unit
process
that
they're
not
used
to
replacement
of
the
existing
uv.
We
wouldn't
expect
additional
operation
staff,
but
we
might
need
additional
support.
Staff
and
public
works
is
working
on
a
staffing
assessment
right
now
and
they're,
taking
into
account
these
cip
projects
that
are
gonna,
be
rolling
out
in
the
next
few
years.
E
A
C
Madam
mayor
yeah,
quite
a
few
things
so
out
at
west
boise.
We
have
a
struvite
facility
and
that's
actually,
where
we
kind
of
mine
it
back
out
of
the
out
of
the
waste
water
and
then
sell
it
to
a
end
up
selling
a
2a
yeah
it
goes
into
fertilizer
is
what
it
ends
up
doing.
So
that's
one
use
and
that's
that's
again.
The
direction
of
the
utility
plan
is
we're
trying
to
kind
of
recover
the
resources
as
we
can
with
the
filtration
it,
just
as
it
happens
with
the
tertiary
filtration.
E
B
A
Josh
really
appreciate
it.
It's
going
to
be
fascinating
as
we
go
through
this
process
of
deploying
these
bond
funds
that
folks
have
entrusted
us
with
to
see
what
we're
getting
for
our
money-
and
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
our
rate
payers
for
trusting
us
to
do
this.
It's
super
important
for
now
and
far
into
the
future
and
really
increases
our
sustainability
and
protects
our
river.
So
I
appreciate
your
work
a
lot.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next,
up,
haley
falconer
is
joining
us
to
talk
about
our
recycled
water
program.
I
I
wear
heels.
Madam
mayor
council
members,
I'm
haley
faulkner,
the
environmental
manager
in
public
works,
and
thank
you
for
having
me
today
to
talk
about
recycled
water.
Before
I
get
started,
I
want
to
introduce
royce
davis
royce.
Is
the
newly
minted
recycled
water
program
manager?
He
comes
into
this
role
by
way
of
lander
street
as
the
water
renewal
facility
manager.
There
it's
been
at
the
city
about
20
years
and
royce
brings
a
really
great
combination
of
technical
experience
and
leadership.
I
Experience
that
we
really
need
in
developing
and
creating
this
program
and
you'll
certainly
hear
from
him
more
in
the
future,
and
I
just
wanted
to
tie
in
a
little
bit
to
some
of
what
jim
shared
where
he
talks
about
the
plan
and
the
fund
and
the
execute.
What
we're
talking
about
a
little
bit
here
today
is
definitely
in
the
execution
realm,
but
sort
of
in
the
before
design
and
construction.
It's
really
a
lot
in
that
program.
Development
and
what
does
that
look
like,
and
certainly
because
recycled
water
is
new
for
us.
I
I
So
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
just
anchoring
this
into
the
utility
plan
today
and
then
really
go
into
what
is
it
that
we're,
including
in
this
program,
development
and
then
probably
most
especially
when
you'll
hear
from
us
again
and
on
which
topics?
I
appreciate
the
sort
of
succinctness
and
it's
the
right
amount
of
information
council
member
beijing.
I'm
also
a
little
worried
that
this
either
is
a
little
too
detailed
or
not
enough,
and
I
know
we'll
certainly
be
back
with
the
detailed
information
in
the
future,
but
just
starting
with
the
utility
plan.
I
This
was
the
outcome
of
the
utility
plan,
so
the
blue
section
here
is
continued
river
discharge.
This
is
continuing
to
do
what
we
do
today
treat
to
a
high
level
and
discharge
to
the
boise
river.
The
orange
is
what
we're
calling
enhance
the
river,
so
that's
making
further
investments
to
enhance
the
boise
river
and
the
importance
that
we
have.
I
What
we're
talking
about
is
that
gray
and
yellow
section
where
all
new
capacity
in
our
water
renewal
system
will
shift
towards
recycled
water
and
what
that
looks
like
for
us
is
industrial
reuse,
which
is
collecting
industrial
water
from
our
existing
or
future
customers,
treating
that
to
a
high
level
and
then
either
returning
that
to
industry
as
their
source
of
water
or
sending
it
to
aqua
for
recharge
to
really
replenish
the
the
aquifer.
So
that's
when
we
talk
about
recycled
water
in
the
program,
we're
really
kind
of
in
that
space
right
here
and
why
recycled
water?
I
I
think
we've
talked
about
this
a
lot
around
the
utility
plan,
but
we
know
that
we're
facing
climate
change
pressures,
water
scarcity.
We
have
competing
regulatory
demands
and
growth
issues
that
we
really
want
to
be
kind
of
ahead
of,
and
then
also
protecting
the
boise
river.
And
so
what
the
recycled
water
program
gets.
I
What's
the
right
level
of
treatment
for
the
application
that
we're
going
to
be
sending
it
to,
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
and
a
few
of
us
were
at
a
national
water
reuse
conference
last
week,
and
we
got
questions
from
folks
about.
Why
is
boise
doing
this?
What's
the
crisis
that
you're
facing
today
and
for
us
it
was
really
nice
to
be
able
to
say
we're
proactive
in
this.
We
heard
from
the
community
how
important
it
is
to
be
doing
something
about
water
ahead
of
the
crisis.
I
But
we
also
know
that
there's
no
time
like
the
present,
so
quick,
google
search
of
drought
and
now
and
you
get
new
news
headings
of
what
we're
facing.
And
so
we
know
that
the
time
is
right
to
really
be
investing
in
recycled
water,
but
it's
also
not
enough
to
have
that
support
that
we
had
from
the
community
in
the
recycle
water
or
in
the
utility
plan
development.
We
made
a
commitment
to
the
community
that
we
would
do
ongoing
studies.
We
now
know
the
the
why
of
recycled
water.
I
What
we're
building
is
the
what
and
the
how
and
the
who
and
the
where,
and
so
we
have,
that
support
we're
committed
to
ongoing
studies
on
water
quality.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
today
with
the
national
water,
research
institute,
tech
studies
on
technology
and
all
of
that,
anchored
in
how
we
engage
with
the
community,
what
we
hear
from
the
community
and
what
we
share
back
with
the
community.
I
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
these
five
key
program
elements
so
you'll
see
that
none
of
these
listed
here
are
design
and
construction.
We're
not
there
yet.
So
this
is
the
elements
that
we
are
bringing
to
the
community,
we'll
bring
back
to
you
all,
all
of
it
really
anchored
in
that
community
engagement
piece.
I
So
when
we
talk
about
policy
and
partnerships,
that's
partnerships
with
community
organizations
with
our
industries
with
our
drinking
water
provider,
so
making
sure
that
folks
understand
what
it
is
that
we're
doing
and
the
policy
piece
is
setting
up
that
ability
for
us
to
consistently
implement
kind
of
what
it
is
that
we're
doing
we're
not
going
to
talk
about
this
one
in
detail
today.
This
is
one
that
will
come
back.
I
But
if
you
take
a
look
at
this
and
we
look
up
here
to
the
far
right
at
the
date
2029,
that
is
the
date
by
which
we
need
to
have
new
capacity
online.
This
was
determined
in
the
utility
plan
to
be
the
best
way
for
us
to
add
new
capacity,
so
that's
really
required
and
that's
the
date
where
we're
full
scale
producing,
recycled
water
and
you'll,
see
kind
of
in
that
phase.
Three
is
where
we
show
the
design
and
construction,
but
we're
really
in
this.
I
When
we
talk
about
execution,
we
have
multiple
elements
that
we're
working
on
that
tie
together
and
need
to
get
need
to
kind
of
get
to
that
phase.
Two
and
phase
three
point
before
we're
ever
designing
and
constructing
before
we
have
an
alternative
that
we've
selected
on
what
we're
doing,
and
so
we're
going
to
talk
through
a
little
bit
of
the
component
pieces
for
each
of
these.
I
Of
course,
a
very
important
piece
is
community
engagement,
so
we're
going
to
follow
a
similar
model
to
what
we
did
in
the
utility
plan,
where
we
have
multiple
phases
of
input,
gathering
and
sharing
of
information
and
really
connecting
with
folks
in
a
variety
of
ways,
and
the
first
area
of
that
engagement
is
this
spring?
Where
we'll
do
a
variety
of
focus
groups,
one
of
which
will
be
in
spanish,
we'll
have
listening
tours
a
variety
of
stakeholder
outreach
we've
already
identified,
I
think
we're
over
a
hundred
different
organizations.
I
Businesses
entities
that
we
know
we
need
to
contact
and
connect
with
in
some
way.
But
certainly
things
like
the
survey
and
the
listening
tour
allow
for
a
much
broader
community
touch
point
as
well,
then
we'll
move
into
the
the
summer
and
we'll
have
summer
and
fall
much
more.
Education
engage
and
engagement
specifically
around
the
pilot
process
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
the
site.
I
Characterization
a
really
good
chance
to
bring
people
in
to
really
see
touch
and
feel
or
look
at
closely
the
work
that
we're
doing
and
see
it
in
a
different
way
than
even
a
full-scale
facility.
And
then
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
in
more
detail
about
the
national
water
research
institute.
They're,
a
third-party
nonprofit
organization
really
focused
on
investing
in
water
research,
and
so
we've
completed
one
of
those
and
we
do
plan
to
continue
that
engagement
with
them
over
time,
and
so
the
first
national
water
research
institute
panel
occurred
in
september.
I
Arguably,
we
brought
them
in
very
early
in
this
program
development,
and
that
was
by
design.
We
wanted
to
hear
from
them
on
these
very
early
component
pieces
of
what
we're
delivering
and
so
I'll
share
a
little
bit
of
their
feedback.
In
a
moment
it
is
a
pretty
maybe
high
level
in
nature,
but
that
is
really
because
where
we
are
and
what
we'll
do
is
as
our
data
and
details
and
program
development
get
more
specific
and
we
bring
that
back
to
this
panel,
their
feedback
and
input
to
us
will
also
get
more
specific.
I
So
just
by
a
list
of
the
folks
that
are
here,
we
have
a
variety
of
engineering
and
science
backgrounds
from
around
the
country
really
bringing
together
experts.
Who've
done
this
in
other
places,
researchers
and
utilities.
Folks
who
work
at
utilities,
notably
the
hydrogeologist
on
our
panel,
was
from
boise
state
sean
benner.
We
knew
that
that
was
an
area
where
we
needed
someone
with
local
expertise,
as
we
start
to
understand
the
aquifer
and
the
groundwater
system
here,
so
the
recommendations.
I
There
are
many
happy
to
share
the
full
report,
but
boiled
down
to
three
key
areas:
the
first
around
community
engagement
and
the
recommendations
to
really
start
our
process
early
and
expand
the
breadth
and
scope
of
what
we're
communicating
with
folks
about
and
also
to
really
nail
in
the.
Why
and
the
language
that
we're
using
and
that'll
be
some
of
the
outreach
and
the
feedback
that
we're
seeking
from
the
community
from
you
all
is
what
what
verbiage
lands?
What
works?
I
What
really
resonates
for
the
type
of
work
that
we're
doing
that
folks
are
expecting
from
us
regulatory,
similar
feedback
in
early
engagement
with
the
deq,
the
department
of
environmental
quality,
who
will
permit
the
recycled
water
facilities
in
the
future.
That's
a
group
that
we
are
meeting
with
every
other
month
now
and
they're,
incorporated
into
some
of
our
other
stakeholder
meetings
as
well.
We're
really
early
in
that.
I
So
there's
no
kind
of
permit
on
the
table,
but
just
wanting
them
to
understand
what
we're
aiming
for,
because
in
some
ways
the
work
that
we're
doing
has
been
done.
Recycled
water
is
long-standing
in
idaho,
but
in
a
lot
of
ways.
Some
of
the
component
pieces
are
new
and
then,
of
course,
they
had
recommendations
around
really
broad
and
deep
water
quality
assessment
around
the
source,
water
quality
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
in
a
moment
really.
A
B
A
Destination
for
recycled
water
is
industrial,
reuse
and
aquifer
recharge.
At
this
point,
so
on
community
engagement,
like
are
people
connecting
with
that,
as
as
people
who
aren't
necessarily
kind
of
the
end
consumers
of
that
how?
How
is
that
looking,
it
just
seems
like
it
would
be
conceptually
kind
of
outside
of
what
people
would
necessarily
care
about,
but
maybe
I'm
totally
wrong.
I'm
just
fascinated.
Madame.
I
I
think
that
you
are
not
totally
wrong
on
that.
It's
that's
part
of
the
language
piece,
so
aqua
for
recharge
is
what
we've
slapped
the
label
on
this
and
used
throughout
the
planning
process
and
we're
now
talking
about
things
like
groundwater,
recharge,
groundwater
replenishment.
There's
a
bit
more
context
around
that.
I
think
we
have
to
step
back
even
further
and
provide
some
education
on
what
is
the
aquifer?
What
is
groundwater?
What
does
that
look
like?
I
F
Sanchez,
thank
you
madame
just
to
piggyback
on
on
the
same
area
of
concern.
Madam
mayor
brought
up,
I'm
thinking,
I
think
it's
wonderful
that
you'll
be
offering
the
focus
groups
of
community
engagement
in
spanish.
But
again
I
would
look
for
like
a
deeper
connection
to
how
can
somebody
relate
to
this
and
how
does
how
do
they
figure
into
all
this?
F
What
is
the
cultural
connection
there
because,
as
we
know,
people
who
speak
english,
this
is
beyond
folks
who
are
not
hyper
focused
on
it,
and
we
do
know
that
we
have
community
members
who
are
hyper
focused
on
this
and
are
very
involved
and
feel
very
welcome
to
share
their
concerns
about
it.
So
I
would
just
ask
that
we
do
a
little
cultural
competency
work
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
just
about
having
these
words
in
spanish.
I
D
D
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
boise
to
work
with
agricultural
representatives
that
live
or
die
by
that
aquifer
and
in
our
economy
is
still
largely
tied
to
ag
in
idaho.
So
I'd
encourage
as
we
do
these
stakeholders
groups
to
get
the
farm
bureau
involved
and
other
groups
that
deal
with
that
aquifer
recharge.
I
know
there's
some
recent
work
on
that
that
there's
been,
I
don't
know
the
technical
term,
but
some
agreements
when
it
comes
to
aquifer
recharge.
D
I
D
Yeah,
I'm
sure
there's
that
oh
man,
mayor
I'm
sure,
there's
others.
That's
the
one
that
came
to
mind.
This
wasn't
my
industry
prior
to
coming
to
council,
but
I
know
that
there's
a
you
know
the
wheat
producers,
you
know
barley,
all
of
those
folks
rely
on
irrigation,
particularly
in
eastern
idaho.
So
once
you
open
it
up
to
the
agricultural
groups,
they'll
come
calling
yeah.
They
care
about
this.
A
lot.
I
Okay,
talking
a
little
bit-
I
mentioned
this
a
moment
ago
about
the
site.
Characterization,
so
really,
we've
got
two
facilities
and
when
we
start
talking
about
land
and
where
these
go,
one
will
be
for
the
facility
itself
and
one
will
be
for
the
aquifer
recharge,
and
so
a
big
piece
of
this
right
now
is
really
kind
of
early
in
time.
Understanding.
Where
might
this
be
appropriate?
I
Where
might
it
work
technically,
and
so
we've
got
a
geographic
boundary
that
comprises
about
130,
000
acres,
that
we're
doing
this
gis
screening
on
so
it's
bounded
roughly
by
the
airport,
to
the
north,
the
foothills
to
the
east,
the
new
york
canal
to
the
west
and
the
20
mile
south
farm
to
the
south.
So
quite
a
large
area.
Ultimately,
we're
probably
looking
on
the
order
of
40
to
80
acres
that
we
need
for
the
aquifer
recharge
sleeve,
so
we're
starting,
really
big.
We're
using
gis
to
understand
things
like.
I
It
show
up
in
a
way
that
we
can
visually
represent.
What
the
aquifer
is
and
not
simply
talk
about
it,
because
we
know
that's
not
that's,
certainly
not
enough.
Before
I
jump,
I
guess
next.
We're
kind
of
these
are
getting
into
some
of
these
detailed
pieces
when
we
talk
about
program
execution,
so
I'm
going
to
shift
a
little
bit
from
aqua
for
recharge
to
water
quality,
and
we
have
been
here
talking
about
emerging
constituents
in
the
past
in
the
watershed.
So,
really
at
that
broader
watershed
scale
here
we're
narrowed
in.
I
We
are
still
talking
in
some
ways
about
emerging
constituents
as
a
component
of
this,
but
it's
source
water
characterization.
So
this
is
how
do
we?
How
do
we
get
a
handle
on
or
understand
what
the
feed
water
would
be
to
a
recycled
water
facility?
So
this
is
various
industrial
samples,
so
we've
got
three
tiers
of
chemicals
or
constituents
that
we're
evaluating.
The
first
is
what
we're
calling
regulated
constituents,
whether
it's
regulated
through
the
recycled
water
rules
or
the
groundwater
rules
or
primary
drinking
water
standards.
I
The
second
tier
are
unregulated
constituents,
but
those
that
are
of
interest
to
public
health-
and
this
includes
I
had
to
write
these
ones
down
any
chemicals
that
fall
in
the
unregulated
contaminant
monitoring
rules.
The
epa
puts
out
on
drinking
water,
the
contaminant
candidate
lists
and
some
emerging
constituents
that
we
know
are
of
concern
like
pfas
and
then
the
third
tier
is
a
set
of
unregulated
constituents.
That
may
be
useful
for
understanding
how
the
different
treatment
technologies
that
we're
going
to
pilot
perform.
I
So
we've
sampled
three
different
times
over
the
last
three
months
about
500
to
700
different
constituents
that
we've
sampled
in
each
of
those
sampling
events
to
really
cast
a
wide
net
that
will
get
narrowed
down
as
we
get
a
better
understanding
of
what
we
can
expect
to
consistently
see.
But
we
do
want
to
have
some
regular
constituents
that
we're
sampling.
So
we
can
see
those
trends
over
time
and
understand
not
just
what's
in
the
water,
but
the
range
and
the
magnitude.
I
And
so
why
that's
important
when
we
talk
about
this
research
and
pilot
testing
on
the
left
hand,
side
here
is
that
source
water
testing
what's
coming
in.
We
need
to
really
have
a
good
handle
on
what
that
is,
and
then,
on
the
right
hand,
side
that's
tied
to
where
is
this
water
going
and
in
this
case
we're
showing
aqua
for
recharge
and
industrial
reuse?
I
So
we
know
what
our
water
quality
is
coming
in
and
what
we
need,
the
water
quality
to
be,
or
what
at
least
the
end
uses
are
and
what
pilot
testing
does
is
it
allows
us
to
match
that
up
with
treatment
technologies
in
the
middle?
So
what
are
the
treatment
technologies
that
can
take
on
this
source
water
coming
in
with
the
varied
constituents
and
the
ranges
of
those
concentrations?
I
And
then
how
can
we
then
ultimately
meet
this
outcome
on
the
right-hand
side
and
for
those
reasons
we
are
embarking
on
pilot
testing
so
that
we
can
test
over
time
a
kind
of
at
a
small
scale,
different
technologies
in
different
orders
to
understand
how
they
perform
and
so
whoops?
What
pilot
testing
allows
us
to
do?
I
I
think,
first
and
foremost
is
test
and
understand
the
effectiveness
and
reliability
of
different
treatment
technologies
again
in
different
orders,
but
it
helps
us
also
to
inform
that
design
criteria
without
this
sort
of
early
execution
work
that
we're
doing
in
pilot
testing.
If
we
jumped
right
into
detailed
design,
we
would
be
making
more
conservative
estimates
on
what
that
needs,
how
those
systems
need
to
perform.
I
I
So
this
is
a
rendering
of
what
the
pilot
may
look
like.
We
have
gone
through
the
proposal
process
to
procure
a
vendor
to
produce
the
pilot,
which
is
a
combination
of
suez
and
tuatek.
This
is
the
suez
water
technology
and
solutions,
folks
who
produce
water
treatment
equipment
combined
with
intuitec
who's
building
this
so
the
designs
and
development.
A
I
A
I
Mayor,
we
don't
know
that
yet
I
think
there's
the
possibility
that
the
the
third
facility,
the
eventual
kind
of
full-scale
recycled
water
facility
and
the
aquifer
recharge
site
could
be
co-located.
I
think
they
very
well
could
be
separated
facilities
as
well,
just
depending
on
what
we
find
in
the
the
research.
B
I
All
right,
one
quick
slide
on
permitting:
we've
talked
about
a
couple
of
these
other
pieces
being
new,
certainly
in
some
ways
this
is
new
and
there's
some
work
for
us
to
do
in
connecting
with
the
department
of
environmental
quality,
long
history.
I
said
this
already
of
recycled
water
in
idaho,
there
are
more
than
10
class
a
permits
which
is
really
a
nomenclature
around
municipal
recycled
water.
I
Hence
number
one.
This
will
help
to.
We
want
to
understand
if
and
what
the
pilot
permitting
requirements
are
for
this
first
pilot.
It
may
be
that
there's
if
we're
returning,
that
recycled
water,
that
we
produce
and
back
into
the
collection
system,
that
may
not
be
a
requirement,
but
we're
trying
to
understand
what
that
looks
like
certainly
informing
what
the
full-scale
permitting
requirements
are.
I
We're
also
doing
that
with
kind
of
an
eye
towards
that
eventual
second
recycled
water
facility,
that's
in
the
utility
plan,
so
making
sure
that
we're
looking
at
things
like
permitting
and
policy
decisions
with
kind
of
the
long
haul
of
the
recycled
water
program
development,
and
not
only
the
work
that
we're
doing
today
and
with
that,
we
will
be
back
with
you
all
with
the
community.
These
are
a
few
of
the
pieces
I
know
we'll
be
connecting
with
the
community.
Engagement
is
going
to
ramp
up.
I
So
I
do
expect
that
you
all
will
see
that
in
the
public
and
that
we'll
have
folks
that
are
connecting
and
sharing
with
us
on
recycled
water.
That
feedback
does
tie
directly
into
those
key
policy
decisions.
So
I
mentioned
it
earlier
hearing
some
of
those
values
and
then
being
able
to
bring
those
community
values
back
into
the
policies
that
we
come
back
and
frame
for
mayor
and
council.
A
So
I
think
that
this
is
really
forward-looking.
It's
so
important.
I'm
excited
to
see
what
everyone
thinks
of
it.
I'm
excited
to
see
if
everyone
like
latches
on
to
this
idea
of
water,
reuse
and
groundwater
recharge,
and
maybe
we
can
all
develop
a
common
nomenclature
around
it.
So
thank
you
for
your
work.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
really
appreciate
it
all
right.
Next
up,
we
have
karen
gallagher
and
welcome
back
zach
pete
meyer
from
now
ccdc
and
tom
laws
from
achd
we're
getting
the
old
crew
back
together.
J
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
council.
Yes,
so
same
crew
before
you
as
we
were
with
you
for
the
work
session
back
in
january,
so
we
are
before
you
tonight
for
a
firm
direction
and
an
adoption
of
the
preferred
concept.
So
we
are
looking
for
an
action
from
you
to
take
forward.
So
this
is
the
8th
street
bikeway
and
just
a
quick
look
at
the
project
schedule.
The
last
time
we
were
before
you
was
to
make
sure
that
the
concepts
being
taken
out
to
the
public
were
palatable
to
city
council.
J
So
those
have
been
taken
out.
Ccdc
and
achd
has
summarized
all
that
public
input.
Our
team
has
worked
together
and
looked
at
what
all
the
comments
from
the
public
and
we
have
a
preferred
concept
for
you
to
consider
for
adoption.
It
will
go
from
here
to
the
ccdc
board,
then
on
to
achd
for
a
public
hearing,
and
then
we
do
have
the
design
schedule
here
and
it
is.
J
J
That's
out
of
our
transportation
action
plan,
bike
connection
so
between
the
boise,
the
north
end
and
all
the
way
down
to
the
green
belt.
So
this
is
what's
all
being
wrapped
up
in.
This
is
achd's
commitment
to
their
newly
adopted
level
of
traffic
stress
guidelines,
and
this
is
that's
terminology
they're
using
quite
consistently.
J
So
there's
quite
a
few
considerations
at
play
here
to
get
a
bicycle
facility,
that's
upgraded
or
that
even
exists
north
of
state
street.
So,
as
we
stated
it's
the
level
of
traffic
stress
which
is
achds
metric
for
bicyclists,
it's
the
traffic
operations,
emergency
services,
two-way
versus
one-way,
bicycle
facilities,
right-of-way
impacts,
landscaping,
on-street
parking,
so
we
have
really
focused
in
on
those
trade-offs
of
to
get
a
dedicated
space
for
bicyclists.
J
K
All
right,
thank
you,
karen,
madam
mayor
council,
members
for
the
record.
My
name
is
tom
laws,
planning
supervisor,
with
the
ada
county,
highway
district
and
today
I'll
just
provide
a
really
quick
overview
of
those
concepts
that
you
already
saw
back
in
in
january,
just
as
a
refresher
and
then
pass
it
on
to
zac
to
get
into
the
public
comment,
analysis
and
findings.
K
Once
again,
you
see
that
southbound
protected
raised
bike
facility,
but
what
we
have
here
is
parallel
parking
on
the
west
side
as
well,
and
so
in
order
to
accommodate
that
additional
parking
on
both
sides
of
8th
street.
What
was
required
was
to
take
that
northbound
protected
bike
facility
and
then
make
it
a
traditional
painted
on-street
facility,
headed
northbound.
K
Looking
at
biking
tree
impacts,
parking
and
cost
with
concept
a
this
is
really
the
most
comfortable
conditions
out
of
the
three
and
it's
it's
due
to
that
protected,
raised
northbound
facility.
That's
not
seen
with
the
other
two
concepts
with
that
being
said,
all
three
of
these
meet
our
level
traffic
stress,
one
or
comfort
for
all
ages
and
abilities
for
trees
concept,
a
maintains
the
existing
trees
and
streetscape
it.
K
It
does
have
the
least
amount
of
on-street
parking,
because
we
are
taking
it
from
one
side
to
accommodate
that
northbound
bike
lane
and
the
cost
is
really
kind
of
right
in
the
middle
between
a
b
and
c
for
concept
b.
This
is
slightly
less
comfortable
for
bicyclists,
because
that
northbound
facility
is
now
on
this
on
street.
K
It
maintains
all
the
existing
trees
and
streetscape
and
parking
is
really
nearly
identical
to
what
we
see
today
due
to
having
it
on
both
sides,
and
this
would
be
the
lowest
cost
alternative
and
then
finally,
we'll
see
once
again.
This
is
really
consistent
to
what
we're
seeing
south
of
state
street
with
ccdc's
recent
improvements.
H
H
I
have
a
question
about
in
any
of
these
concepts
when
it
ends
on
union
street
behind
the
co-op
there,
if
there's
any
change
in
treatment
or
if
there's
any
anticipated
change
in
treatment
on
that
particular
street,
because
that's
a
two-lane,
one-way
street-
and
I
think
some
of
the
concerns
that
just
got
up
brought
up
really
recently
was
what,
if
somebody
is
coming
down
9th
street
and
they
want
to
turn
on
to
it
on
union.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
information.
K
Absolutely
madam
mayor
councilmember,
halliburton,
so
two
two
items
there,
one
with
all
of
the
achd
section
intersections
those
treatments
are
really
going
to
be
defined
in
our
design
phase
so
and
next
year,
once
we
we
nail
down
which
concept
we
potentially
will
be
looking
at,
but
but
we
do
have
an
active
maintenance
project
both
on
8th
street
and
9th
street
north
of
union
or
on
9th
street.
It's
actually
north
of
fort
and
with
both
of
those
we're
going
to
also
be
looking
at
what
some
of
those
transitions
can
look
like.
K
There's
approximately,
I
think
there
I
counted
12
opportunities
from
9th
street
to
jump
over,
and
so
whether
that
is
whether
that's
out
on
union
or
one
of
the
ones.
You
know
north
we'll
probably
be
looking
at.
You
know:
signage
additional
wayfinding,
signage,
early
notification,
whether
that
be
cheryl's
as
well
and
other
treatments.
To
really
you
know,
help
highlight
not
only
is
8th
street
an
alternative
to
head
southbound,
but
then
also
the
work
that
we're
partnering
with
ccdc
on
with
11th
street,
so
you'll
be
able
to
either
take
11th
south
into
downtown
or
or
8th.
G
Madam
thompson
recall,
maybe
wrongly
from
january
that
one
of
these
concepts
had
in
some
sort
of
issue
or
challenge
with
tying
into
a
chunk
of
street,
either
immediately
north
or
immediately
south.
Am
I
misremembering
completely
like
I?
I
had
it
in
my
mind
that
one
of
the
challenges
with
one
or
maybe
two
of
these
concepts
was
it
didn't
fit
very
well
with
what
was
immediately
north
or
immediately
south,
and
that's
all
I
had
in
my
mind.
So
you
can
tell
me
I'm
completely
wrong
or
if,
if
that
rings,
a
bell
could
could
you?
K
No,
you,
you
are
absolutely
right
and
what
you
are
referring
to
is
actually
that
section,
that's
just
north
of
fort
street,
so
really
the
co-op
block-
and
I
I
won't
speak
too
much
because
we'll
get
into
this
in
the
next
few
slides.
But
but
originally,
what
we
brought
out
to
the
public
was
looking
at
with
all
three
concepts
really
align
aligning
with
what
we
were
showing
in
that
concept,
be
so
having
that
on
street
facility
for
the
northbound
bike
bike
lane
and
then
having
parking
on
both
sides.
G
L
In
total,
we've
received
about
182
individual
responses
to
that
survey
and
our
interviews
during
the
adjacent
property
owner
meetings.
We
generally
found
that
there
was
support
for
improving
the
corridor,
both
in
terms
of
bike
and
streetscape
infrastructure
because
of
the
anticipated
mobility
and
safety
improvements.
That
would
would
be
achieved
while
property
owners
did
share.
Some
concerns
with
us
about
the
project,
including
there
was
concerns
about
loss
of
a
vehicle,
traveling
safety
at
the
intersection
of
eighth
and
state
at
the
south
end
and
potential
southbound
bike.
L
L
Most
notably,
the
majority
of
property
owners
did
want
to
see
concepts
be
or
see,
implemented
over
parking
or
over
concept,
and
that
was
primarily
due
to
the
ability
of
those
concepts
to
preserve
on-street
parking
at
near
pre-project
levels.
So
we
know
that,
while
the
co-op
does
show
they
were
okay
with
all
three
options,
they
were
concerned
about
parking
and
it
we
have
to
be
clear
that
the
concepts
that
we
presented
to
them,
as
tom
just
discussed,
showed
on
street
parking
on
both
sides
for
all
three.
L
Excuse
me
prefer
to
see
constructed.
You
can
see
from
this
graphic
that
concept
a
did
have
a
clear
preference
over
the
other
alternatives.
Concept
b
did
get
a
fair
amount
of
support
and,
interestingly
enough
concept
c
did
not
get
a
lot
of
support.
In
fact,
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
there
folks
would
rather
see
a
combination
of
concepts
or
nothing
at
all,
rather
than
seeing
concept
c.
L
L
That
sentiment
about
landscaping
really
helps
illustrate
why
there
was
such
low
support
for
option
c,
because,
as
you
recall,
the
footprint
of
option
c
was
slightly
larger
and
likely
would
impact
a
number
of
trees
up
and
down
the
corridor
survey.
Respondents
also
generally
dislike
the
on-street
unprotected
northbound
bike
lanes.
Like
tom
mentioned,
associated
with
concept
b
and
c.
L
We
heard
a
number
of
times
that
that
was
a
concern
for
folks
and
that
they
weren't
really
concerned
about
two
things
associated
with
that
generally
being
exposed
to
traffic
adjacent
to
the
bike
lane
and
then
parking
conflicts.
As
folks
motorists
try
to
get
into
parking
spaces,
they
would
be
crossing
the
bike
lane
to
do
so,
and
with
that
I
will
hand
it
over
to
karen
now
and
she's,
going
to
share
what
the
interagency
team
discussed
and
present
the
recommended
action
forward.
D
D
L
Madam
mayor
councilmember,
will
it's
yeah?
There
are
approximately
94
stalls
on
8th
street
at
this
point
in
time
today,
concepts
b
and
c
are
you
know
a
couple,
a
couple
lost
stalls
one
way
or
the
other
concept
a
in
its
original
format
did
propose
to
lose
about
30
31
stalls.
So
roughly
a
third
of
the
existing
parking
with
concept
a
and
we
will
have
a
slight
deviation
from
that
as
karen's
about
to
to
share
with
us,
but
we
anticipate
a
slightly
larger
number
of
stalls
being
taken
off
due
to
this
recommended
change.
D
One
more
question:
so
I'm
trying
to
conceptualize
this
with
all
three
scenarios,
because
something
that's
always
frustrated
me
is
just
walking
down
the
sidewalk
is
when
there's
a
change
in
the
bike
lane
that
people
go
to
the
sidewalk
and
that's
not
the
purpose
of
the
sidewalk.
The
sidewalk
should
be
for
pedestrians
versus
a
bike.
Lane
talk
to
me
about
the
consistency
in
the
area
I
mean.
Is
that
going
to?
D
L
Madam
mayor
and
council
member,
we
certainly
hope
that's
not
the
issue.
That
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
ach
and
ccdc
approach
this
as
a
singular
project
so
that
we
could
have
a
cohesive
cross-section
throughout
the
entire
five
block
length.
So
the
goal
with
the
project
is
to
have
that
cohesive
facility,
but
all
three
options
do
achieve
achds
level
of
traffic
stress
guidelines.
So
what
that
really
means
is.
It
should
be
comfortable
enough
for
most
bike
riders
to
feel
like
they
can
take
the
bike
lane
and
not
have
to
take
the
sidewalk.
J
H
I
guess
a
couple
things
one
related
to
council
member
will
it's
question.
I
guess
when
we
were
talking
about
these
concepts,
cb
and
a
a
would
be
the
one
that
would
offer
the
two
protected
bike
lanes,
and
so
that
actually
would
be
the
one
that
would
make
people
feel
most
comfortable
riding
versus
people
who
might
not
feel
comfortable
riding
on
a
street
right
next
to
a
car
and
onto
the
sidewalk.
Is
that
correct?
Madam.
H
And
my
original
question:
when
we
do
the
stakeholder
outreach,
you
know
certainly
we're
reaching
out
to
the
businesses
we're
reaching
out
to
the
neighbors
and
stuff
in
the
area.
Do
we
reach
out
to
the
neighborhood
association
as
well
to
make
sure
that
if
they
have
any,
you
know,
plans
or
bikeway
things
that
they've
developed
in
past
plans
that
they're
cued
in
on
the
conversation
as
well.
L
Madam
mayor
council
member,
I
might
have
to
defer
to
acht
because
they
do
a
lot
of
that
coordination,
especially
in
the
north
end
section
of
the
project.
But
yes,
we
did.
We
did
distribute
mailers
and
broadcast
social
media
as
well
as
emails
to
direct
recipients
along
the
quarter,
as
we
knew
them,
including
advocacy
groups
boise
school
district
ymca.
So
we
we
tried
to
cast
a
very
wide
net
and
I
believe
the
northern
neighborhood
association
was
included
on
that.
J
J
That's
proposed
out
of
the
three
alternatives
and
and
partially
because
we
do
see
that
on
other
sections
of
even
8th
street,
where
we
have
the
green
painted
bike
lane
and
before
when
we
did
have
vehicular
travel
on
the
sections
between
maine
and
bannack
there.
That
bicyclists
would
still
want
to
go
even
in
the
green
bike
lane
there,
even
though
it
was
the
opposite
direction.
Even
though
we
had
low
traffic
volumes
and
low
speeds,
they
still
many
had
a
desire
to
have
their
own
space
there.
So
we
because
we
do
have
trade-offs
here.
J
J
You
know
it's
highest
on
sunday
in
this
area
at
about
75
percent,
and
that
includes
I'm
going
to
leave
the
co-op
block
north
of
fort
for
a
second
and
hold
off
on
that,
but
to
the
south
of
that
they've
looked
at
they
behind
me
that
the
team
looked
at
utilization
on
8th
street
as
well
as
one
block
on
the
cross
streets,
and
so
on
sunday
it
is
the
highest
at
75
percent
on
the
weekday.
We're
about
50
is
the
highest
and
it
even
goes
down
to
about
32
percent.
J
G
G
J
So
I
want
to
move
on
to
the
last
part
of
it
and
just
dial
in
on
this.
So
what
went
out
to
the
public
was
a
b
and
c,
except
for
the
co-op
block,
I'm
going
to
call
it
the
co-op
block
just
for
the
ease
of
referring
to
it,
I
mean,
and
that
parking
is
a
little
different.
It
has
no
regulation
right
now,
so
the
utilization
is,
I
mean,
we're
much
closer,
probably
to
a
hundred
percent
on
it.
We
know
that
people
park
there
who
walk
downtown
because
it's
the
first
area
that's
free.
J
So
the
the
team
is
recommending
that
we
continue
with
concept
a
which
would
be
removing
20
is
20
right
parking
spots
from
the
west
side.
I
think
it's
14
sorry
14
from
the
west
side,
so
that
we
maintain
a
consistent
treatment
of
raised
or
protected
park
protected
bike
lanes.
Pardon
me
over
that
last
block.
J
We
were
toying
with
keeping
the
painted
bike
lane
and
then,
when
we
got
the
feedback
from
the
public
that
they
said
one,
we
really
want
a
consistent
treatment.
Two,
we
really
don't
like
being
next
to
the
cars
or
the
parking,
and
we
looked
at
it
and
said.
Well,
you
know
is
that
worth
coming
having
that
outcome
and
keeping
parking,
and
so
we
think
that
we
can
work
with
the
co-op
on
some
of
their
loading
areas.
J
J
We're
not
saying
that
it's
not
going
to
have
any
impact,
though,
but
we
do
think
that
maintaining
the
consistent
treatment
for
that
last
block
is
a
good
thing.
We
also
look
to
see:
are
the
trips
actually
lower
on
there?
They're
not
lower,
there's
still,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
drivers
that
are
coming
from
fort
making
the
right-hand
turn
heading
north
on
8th
street.
So
in
the
end,
to
meet
the
objectives
of
the
project
to
provide
the
all
ages
bike
network
and
the
highest
comfort.
G
I
certainly
would
affirm
that
direction
on
the
the
things.
I
guess
that
I'm
thinking
about
first,
I
mean
I
defer
to
council
member
halliburton
on
anything
that
involves
two
wheels
and
less
than
three
right,
but
my
sense
is
that
the
other
concepts
with
one
raised
or
protected
bike
lane
and
the
other
out
in
traffic
is
just
going
to
result
in
everybody
using
the
protected
bike
lane
and
then
kind
of
wasted
roadway.
I
don't
waste
it,
but
underutilized
roadway.
G
I'm
also
concerned
to
some
extent
about
the
parking,
but
this
part
of
town
is
developed.
There's
the
one
sort
of
corner
lot
directly
across
from
the
co-op
that
has
been
mired
in
ambiguity
for
four
or
five
years.
Now.
Something
is
going
to
happen
there,
but
apart
from
that
everything's
built,
there's
the
commercial
retail
co-op
and
those
associated
businesses
they're
handling
their
parking
flows
sufficiently.
G
Most
of
the
residences
are
apartments.
There's
very
few
single-family
homes
there,
so
everything's
kind
of
built
up
and
the
parking
need
is
it's.
I
don't
have
quite
to
articulate
it,
but
it's
difficult
to
imagine
there
being
a
much
greater
need
for
parking
there
in
the
future.
So
we
kind
of
have
the
maximum
need
going
on
now,
subject
to
whatever
happens
on
that
lot
and
still,
even
at
the
busiest
time
one
in
four
parking
spaces
are
open
and
free
and
that's
the
worst
place
in
the
busiest
time.
In
fact,
it's
it's
much
better
all
around.
G
So
I'm
not
concerned
about
the
parking.
I
am
concerned
about
cyclist
safety
people
going
back
and
forth
to
the
north
end,
protecting
the
bike
lane
and
keeping
you
know
preventing
that
situation.
That
seems
like
would
happen
to
me
where
this
second
bike
lane
out
in
traffic
is
just
kind
of
sitting
there
and
not
utilized
at
all.
So
that's
a
really
long
way
of
saying
I
really
appreciate
and
agree
with
the
direction
you're
asking
for
on
concept
a.
H
Madame
yeah
council
member
of
agent,
when
people
are
going
the
wrong
way,
we
call
that
salmoning
and
you
can
kind
of
see
why,
whether
that's
in
a
regular
car
lane
or
if
that's
a
bike
lane
that
would
be
salmoning
and
certainly
something
that
we
wouldn't
want
to
encourage.
I
think
this
is
so
exciting.
I
know
that
this
has
actually
been
something
in
the
works,
for
I
don't
know
five
years
six
years,
you
know,
since
there
was
you
know
the
past
mayor's
bicycle
advisory
committee.
H
H
So
I
think
it's
super
super,
exciting
and-
and
I
do
agree,
I
think
anything
less
than
that
treatment
would
encourage
people
to
potentially
go
into
the
bike
lane
that
feels
more
comfortable,
no
matter
what
direction
that
arrow
is
pointed
and
and
carrying
to
your
credit,
I
think
that
you've
always
advocated
for
that
8
to
80
age
range
for
creating
infrastructure
that
really
makes
you
know
that
group
feel
welcome.
Writing
there.
H
D
Madam
mayor,
so
it
pains
me
to
lose
parking
spaces
in
downtown
boise,
because,
if
you're
coming
from
west
boise
you're
likely
driving
a
car,
but
I
think
the
greater
risk
here
is
what
my
fellow
councilmen
have
suggested
is
that
we
spend
time
and
money
on
something
that
doesn't
work
because
people
don't
feel
safe
in
that
bike
lane
and
then
they
jump
to
the
pedestrian
sidewalk.
And
so
I
I
say
full
speed
ahead.
F
I
move
that
we
approve
the
the
direction
that
staff
has
presented
to
us
today
in
adopting
concept
a
as
the
preferred
alternative
to
for
the
full
eighth
street
quarter.
State
union
with
the
additions
that
council
member
holly
burton
brought
up
and
the
concerns
that
our
other
colleagues
have
brought
up
as
well
in
moving
forward.
A
F
I
don't
ride
a
bike
yet,
but
I'm
working
on
it
jimmy's
going
to
help
me
with
my
bike,
so
I
can
get
going
on
the
19th.
Madam
mayor
is
going
to
be
joining
me
on
that
bike
ride.
So,
as
somebody
who's
very
fearful
about
riding
a
bike
in
downtown
boise,
I
I
really
very
truly
sincerely
appreciate
the
effort
to
make
our
streets
more
welcoming
to
folks
like
myself.
F
As
we
know
just
from
watching
the
news
and
the
reports,
our
rising
gas
prices
are
going
to
be
forcing
a
lot
of
our
constituents
to
embrace
bicycle
riding
and
alternative
forms
of
transportation,
just
as
a
way
to
survive
in
this
difficult
economy.
So,
on
a
personal
note,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
efforts
to
make
the
streets
more
welcoming
to
those
of
us
we're
gonna
have
to
embrace
bicycle
rating.
A
I
was
gone
for
the
january
meeting
and
so
I'm
sorry
for
my
over-exuberance
to
see
the
band
back
together,
but
it
was
just
really
exciting
for
me
and
really
appreciate
all
of
the
work
that
every
respective
agency
has
put
into
this
and
really
working
together.
I
feel
like
we're
just
in
this
new
era
of
collaboration
and
really
appreciate
you
all.
So
unless
there
are
any
additional
comments,
let
the
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.