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A
It
was
even
more
empty
I
think
because
they're
are
there
more
chairs
today,
I,
don't
know
what
it
is
clerk
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
clerk.
Will
you
call
the
roll
agents
here.
C
B
Oh
there
we
go.
Thank
you!
Well,
yes,
you
might
question
my
judgment
in
what
I
consider
to
be
fun
and
interesting.
But
to
me
this
is
fascinating.
We're
going
to
talk
this
afternoon
about
our
Consolidated
rental
car
facility
and
I'm,
bringing
this
to
council,
because
it
is
the
next
step
in
our
Boi
upgrade
program
that
we're
about
to
embark
on.
We
have
done
substantial
amount
of
work
on
design.
B
It
will
be
coming
back
to
it'll,
be
coming
to
the
design,
Review,
Committee
and
so
I
wanted
to
offer
City
Council
Members
an
opportunity
to
offer
comments
and
input
as
to
our
progress
to
date.
So
that's
why
we're
here,
just
as
a
very
brief
refresh.
These
are
the
major
components
of
our
Boi
upgrade
program.
B
The
East
public
garage
and
the
employee
parking
garage
are
currently
in
progress
as
well
as
our
checkpoint
expansion
are
currently
in
progress,
and
then
this
conrac,
the
Consolidated
rental
car
facility,
will
be
the
next
phase
which
will
make
room
for
that
Concourse
a
expansion.
So
that's
just
to
put
it
in
context,
for
you
here
is
a
diagram
outlining
a
little
bit
more
detail.
B
What
this
will
look
like
in
terms
of
location,
so
we
have
the
existing
rental
car
facility
right
when
you
walk
up
the
doorway
there,
existing
public
parking
garage,
which
is
on
the
bottom
right
and
then
the
phase,
one
ready
return
staging
area
will
be
where
previously
we
had
the
Idaho,
aeronautical,
hangar
and
well.
This
will
actually
be
a
two-phase
project,
which
is
a
change
from
our
airport
master
plan.
But
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute.
B
So
when
we
first
presented
this
to
the
rental
car
companies,
they
said
this
is
lovely.
We
love
this
location,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
quite
big
enough,
so
we
need
to
not
only
do
phase
one,
but
we
also
need
to
do
phase
two
and
through
a
series
of
meetings
with
our
stakeholders,
the
rental
car
companies.
B
They
notified
us
that
what
they
would
really
like
to
do
is
do
a
phase
one,
which
is
what
we're
calling
the
ready
return
so
where
people
will
be
able
to
pick
up
and
drop
off
their
rental
cars
that
will
be
phase
one
and
then
we'll
actually
do
a
second
phase
planned
on
an
adjacent
lot,
probably
in
2027,
and
this
will
be
the
quick
turn
area.
So
this
will
be
where
they
fuel,
where
they
wash
cars,
where
they
clean
them
out
and
they
will
be
Consolidated
and
then
the
garages
will
be
connected
by
ramps.
B
This
is
a
rendering
of
what
the
building
will
look
like.
This
is,
as
you
are
approaching,
the
upper
roadway,
the
vehicle
there
in
the
diagram
is
or
in
the
rendering
is
actually
on
the
upper
roadway
as
it
approaches
the
terminal
building.
So
the
rental
cars
will
go.
The
exact
same
way
that
they
do
now
is,
as
you
recall,
when
you
approach
the
airport
when
you
come
to
that
fork.
If
you
go
left
you're
going
to
arrivals
and
departures
and
if
you
go
to
the
right,
you
go
and
drop
off
your
rental
car.
B
So
this
is
what
phase
one
will
look
like:
it'll,
be
over
600
000
square
feet
over
a
thousand,
almost
Eleven
Hundred
stalls
and
then
they'll
be
staging
for
297
cars
on
the
roof,
so
those
will
be
stacked
on
the
roof
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
this
will
be
going
to
design
review
later
this
month.
B
B
This
is
another
view
of
the
rendering
and
you
can
see
that
we've
identified
a
location
for
art
again.
This
is,
as
you
approach
the
terminal
and
sort
of
that
decision
point
where
people
either
bear
to
the
left
or
bare
to
the
right.
The
right
will
take
them
to
the
rental
car
facility
and
then
that
left
or
straight
ahead
will
be
arrivals
and
departures.
B
A
B
B
Just
a
few
project
details
for
you:
we
have
gone
through
the
design
process
and
we
use
Local
Company
HDR,
along
with
a
nationally
recognized,
firm,
dimate
Wong
that
has
built
a
number
of
these
all
over
the
country.
Mcilvaine
companies
partnered
with
a
group
called
The,
Austin
commercial,
who
has
built
a
number
of
these
Consolidated
rental
car
facilities
across
the
country,
we're
using
a
construction
manager
at
risk
methodology
to
build
this,
and
we
expect
that
we'll
break
ground
in
Spring
of
23.
B
The
budget
is
66
million
dollars
and
we
hope
to
have
it
completed
by
mid
2025.
I
should
note
that
we'll
be
issuing
bonds
for
this
I
think,
that's
probably
on
my
next
slide,
so
I'm
probably
skipping
ahead.
So
that's
phase
one
and
then
the
phase
two
that
I
mentioned
is
the
staging
area
for
an
additional
166
cars
and
stacking
for
144
and
again.
This
is
for
that
quick
turn
cleaning,
fueling
washing
vacuuming.
B
B
The
funding
for
this,
the
initial
phase,
we're
actually
funding
with
cash
on
hand
and
it's
generated
through
the
customer
facility
charge.
The
CFC
you've
probably
heard
us
talk
about
that,
we'll
be
refining
the
budget
and
begin
the
acquisition
of
the
long
lead
time
items
things
like,
for
example,
elevators,
and
perhaps
some
steel
will
issue
revenue
bonds.
The
bonds
will
be
backed
by
that
customer
facility
charge
that
I
mentioned
and
we'll
do
that.
Probably
in
Spring
of
2023.
D
Yes,
go
ahead,
Rebecca.
Thank
you.
Just
a
comment.
I
think
this
is
really
exciting.
I
know
that
folks
have
been
enduring
a
lot
of
construction
at
the
airport,
but
it's
all
going
to
be
worth
it
and
it's
just
another
indication
about
the
the
growth
that's
happening
and
that
we're
becoming
just
a
bigger,
bigger
airport
and
thanks
for
your
vision,.
B
Well,
thank
you
and
I
should
note
that
this
is
really
going
to
be
a
great
customer
service
amenity.
As
you
know,
many
airports,
you
have
to
actually
take
a
shuttle
to
get
a
rental
car,
and
not
only
is
that
not
a
pleasant
experience,
but
it's
also
not
very
environmentally
friendly
to
be
running
shuttles
back
and
forth.
So
we
will
not
be
doing
that
in
Boise,
so
we'll
be
improving
the
customer
experience
for
our
passengers,
but
also
keeping
in
mind
that
we
want
to
be
as
environmentally
friendly
as
possible.
B
I
should
also
note
and
I
didn't
mention
it
and
Miss,
because
we're
really
talking
about
the
concept,
but
this
garage
will
be
equipped
with
the
infrastructure,
that
is,
the
rental
companies,
bring
their
electric
fleets
online.
It
will
have
the
infrastructure
in
place
so
that
they
can
add
the
electric
to
their
spaces
to
offer
those
electric
vehicles.
E
E
Okay,
that's
what
I
thought
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
was
noting
that
correctly.
This
seems
like
a
lot
of
space.
You've
noted
that
we
go
through
a
lot
of
rental
cars.
E
B
So,
in
our
master
plan,
many
years
ago,
we
identified
some
area
off
of
Orchard
Street
as
a
future
car
rental
location
for
when
we
outgrow
this
space,
I
suspect
the
car
rental
companies
will
want
to
stay
in
this
location
as
long
as
they
possibly
can
and
again
in
our
master
plan,
we
identified
one
garage
and
then
the
car
rental
companies
have
actually
asked
us
to
expand
it
to
two
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
longevity
that
we
need
to
accommodate
the
growth
that
we're
seeing.
Okay.
A
F
Let
me
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
going
back
to
the
beginning
of
the
process,
it
started
in
the
fall
of
2020.
As
you
know,
we've
been
through
what
are
called
modules
one
and
two
which
deal
with
the
the
base:
zoning.
Basically,
the
zoning
map
of
the
city
and
module
one
and
module
two,
two
dealing
with
the
regulations
that
pertain
to
any
particular
piece
of
property.
F
In
the
city
we
concluded
some
open
houses
on
those
topics
this
summer
we're
now
moving
into
module
three,
which
is
the
topic
of
my
presentation
this
evening,
I
will
say
that
this
is
a
fairly
technical
presentation
and
it's
the
nature
of
where
we
are
in
this
process
we're
getting
into
what
are
the
processes
that
you
follow
in
order
to
build
in
the
city?
F
So
this
is,
by
its
very
nature,
somewhat
complex,
we're
trying
to
simplify
it,
but
but
this
is
a
pretty
technical
presentation,
I'm
about
to
give
you
just
as
a
warning,
we'll
get
to
go
back
to
modules,
one
and
two
for
a
moment.
These
are
in
going
through
the
update
to
modules
one
and
two
in
the
summer.
These
are
the
goals
that
we
organized
all
of
our
recommendations
around.
F
They
include
embracing
the
variety
of
neighborhoods
that
we
have
in
the
city
and
and
ensuring
that
our
new
zoning
ordinance
is
reflective
of
the
variety
that
we
have
from
relatively
Urban
neighborhoods
to
Suburban
ones,
to
somewhat
rural
ones,
and
that
we
should
respect
that
and
have
this
new
zoning
ordinance
is
crafted
thanks
that
were
really
aligning
the
zoning
ordinance
such
that
we
are
directing
more
dense
development
to
areas
where
we've
got
either
existing
or
planned
public
improvements
that
we
within
the
zoning
ordinance
ensure
that
we're
achieving
the
outcomes
that
we're
seeking,
especially
as
it
relates
to
housing,
affordability
and
how
sustainable
practices
are
used
in
construction,
and
that,
finally,
were
being
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
we've
got
to
manage
the
growth
at
the
edge
of
the
city.
F
That's
modules,
one
and
two
just
the
goals
that
we
organize
those
this
new
set
of
regulations
around
so
now.
Here
we
are
to
module
three
among
the
things
that
we
heard
from
the
community
consistently.
We
put
them
in
these
kind
of
categories
here
regarding
where
we
go
with
with
the
process
itself.
One,
of
course,
is
that
we
have
consistent
predictable
decision-making,
prop
process
and
processes
that
are
just
easier
to
understand
and
and
are
more
consistent
and
predictable
than
what
we
have.
Today.
F
Some
of
those
in
here
that
we're
clear
about
who
makes
what
decision,
when,
when
different
people
or
groups
that
are
involved
in
the
approval
process,
when,
when
they're
within
the
process
itself,
when
they,
when
they
see
those
projects
and
Clarity
around
who
has
what
approval
Authority
in
the
process.
F
So
we
in
thinking
about
how
to
organize
this
module
three
and
how
we're
amending
the
process.
We
came
to
these
goals
here,
these
three
that
were
reinforcing
our
desired
outcomes.
This
is
a
big
deal.
I've
said
this
multiple
times
in
public
meetings.
The
purpose
of
this
process
of
updating
a
zoning
ordinance
that's
now
more
than
50
years
old,
is
not
actually
to
to
decide
how
we're
going
to
arrange
our
arguments.
That's
not
what
this
process
part
is
about.
It's
really
about.
F
How
do
we
get
everyone
working
towards
achieving
the
outcomes
that
we're
seeking
in
this
new
ordinance
and
align
our
processes
to
be
supportive
of
what
we're
seeking
for
the
city
in
the
new
ordinance
involving
the
community
and
partners
early
in
the
in
the
process?
You
know
right
now
it's
just
kind
of
across
the
board
in
terms
of
when
you
might
see
something.
F
So
this
is
a
list
of
things
that
I'll
touch
on
as
I
go
through
here.
I
kind
of
we
raise
these
up
just
to
make
sure
that
this
is
kind
of
a
list
of
things
that
you'll
see
within
the
slides
that
I'll
go
through.
But
one
aspect
of
this
is
that
we're
creating
these
different
application
types
and
I'll
go
through
this
in
the
next
slide,
including
something
we're
called
allowed
use
in
a
loud
or
alternative
form.
I've
got
a
slide.
That
speaks
directly
to
this
as
well.
F
Some
of
this
information
is
going
to
take
a
while
to
kind
of
review
and
work
through
get
that
we
had
a
a
citizen
of
advisory
committee
meeting
and
went
through
these
same
slides
with
them.
Last
Thursday
was
a
great
discussion,
very
productive,
but
again
it's
going
to
take
a
little
while
for
everybody
to
go
through
this
and
that
that's
understandable.
F
So
anyway,
we've
added
this
application
type
allowed
use
allowing
form
I'll
get
into
that
establishing
an
interdepartmental
review
group
and
process
to
make
sure
we've
got
that
coordination
across
departments
and
and
other
agencies
reintroducing
the
hearing,
examiner
and
I'll
mention
where
that
is
relevant
here
in
a
few
moments.
F
Changing
the
design,
Review
Committee
to
commission
part
of
this
is
just
related
to
clear
roles
within
the
process
and
trying
to
be
more
efficient
about
about
how
people
work
through
the
process,
and
we
we
can
talk
about
that
and
then
updating
our
required
development
findings
and
I'll.
Give
you
an
example
of
that
in
our
in
our
in
these
slides.
So
first
as
it
relates
to
this
first
thing,
application
type.
So
we
have
four
types
here,
and
this
is
the
slide
that
kind
of
outlines
those
so
types.
One
and
two
are
administrative
approvals.
F
So
if
you're
a
type
one
or
a
type
2
that's
done
internally,
you
know,
through
a
staff
committee
or
or
just
through
staff
in
the
planning
department
and
I'll,
show
you
a
list
of
what
those
things
are
in
just
a
minute
and
then
type
three
or
four
has
some
kind
of
public
review,
so
type
three
would
be
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
or
the
design
review.
Now,
commission,
you
know
and
then
type
four
of
those
things
that
would
need
to
go
to
council
under
any
circumstance.
F
So
it
could
be
that
those
go
directly
to
council,
but
most
of
them
would
go
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
first
for
a
recommendation
and
then
on
to
city
council.
So
those
are
the
four
types.
This
is
the
list
of
the
kind
of
menu
items
for
each
type
here.
So
again,
one
and
two
are
items
that
are
done
administratively
and
I'll.
Make
a
note
that
highlighted
at
the
bottom.
F
F
Type
3
and
type
4
are
those
that
do
have
some
kind
of
public
hearing
associated
with
them
again
either
pnz
or
the
design
review,
commission
or,
of
course,
certificates
of
appropriateness
which
go
to
the
historic
preservation,
Commission
and
then
type
four,
that's
the
the
list
of
things
that
do
need
to
end
up
back
at
city,
council
and
so
in
Orange.
F
Those
things
that
are
having
a
public
review
are
actually
not
required
by
state
law.
Just
that's
what
that
highlight
is
about
is
to
make
sure
you
see
that
so
this
is
the
least
the
list
of
types
so
again,
looking
at
this
is
kind
of
aligning
those
different
types
with
the
areas
of
review
that
they'd
have
so
administrative
ones
on
top
here,
which
can
include
that
interdepartmental
agency
review
the
addition
of
a
hearing,
examiner
and
I'm,
not
sure,
let
me
look
I
guess
it
would
be
here.
F
So
then,
you
can
see
so
on
appeal
to
City
Council
on
those
type
threes
and
then,
of
course,
if
it
gets
the
city
council,
the
only
appeal
Beyond
City
councils
to
court
so
anyway,
this
is
a
significant
addition
here,
obviously
to
have
to
restore
the
hearing
examiner
as
a
as
an
appeal
authority
over
some
of
our
cases
and
some
of
our
types.
C
E
E
Is
so
I
guess
the
the
one
concern
I
have
in
the
type
twos
is
the
conditional
use
permit?
Modification
99
of
them
are
pretty
pro
forma,
but
occasionally
we
have
ones
that
garnered
a
lot
of
interest
at
city,
council
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
opportunity
for
the
public
to
comment
if
they
need
it.
F
D
Madam
mayor,
so,
as
we
think
about
these
new
processes,
are
there
other
ways
that
the
planning
committee
or
the
planning
division,
has
looked
at
how
to
streamline
applications?
I
mean
this
is
one:
are
there
others
that
you
can
quantify
about
how
we're
making
the
process
more
efficient,
more
effective
or
direct.
F
Well,
I
mean
that's,
that's
very
much
a
part
of
everything
I'm
presenting
here
I'm
talking
about
adding
a
hearing,
a
a
hearing
examiner
part.
One
of
the
the
big
problems
is
back
to
it's
unpredictable
as
to
how
these
processes
are
going
to
go
because
you
have
a
Litany
of
appeal
possibilities:
Associated.
A
F
If
you
submit
an
application
today,
there's
a
lot
of
unpredictability
about,
what's
going
to
happen,
because
there
isn't
a
thought
through
set
of
processes
associated
with
the
nature
of
the
application,
so
you
can
end
up
getting
appealed
multiple
times
over
very
small
things,
which
you
see
and
very,
very
big
thing.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
today
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
this
process
is
design,
something
that
is
commensurate
with
the
different
kinds
of
applications
that
we're
getting.
F
So
it's
not
unpredictable,
so
you
have
a
consistent
process
which
will
allow
for
greater
speed
and
and
a
consistent
speed.
That's
the
most
important
thing
for
people
is
if
they
don't
know
how
long
it's
going
to
take,
because
there's
all
this
uncertainty
with
the
process,
that's
the
most
frustrating
thing
for
people
can
I
just
have
a
process
that
I
can
count
on
and
I
know
that
this
is
what
will
happen.
These
are
the
steps,
and
this
is
how
long
that
takes,
and
so
that's
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
here.
Council,
member.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Tim,
so
the
other
side
of
that
coin
is
we
have
members
of
our
community
who
feel
anxious
about
their
ability
to
give
input
and
express
their
concerns
about
how
these
projects
affect
their
current
neighborhoods.
So
is
there
anything
we
can
say
about
these
processes
that
it's
going
to
speak
to
that.
F
Yes
and
I'll
I'll-
maybe
just
go
through
the
rest
of
these,
because
we
do
get
to
some
of
that
shifting
to
the
interdepartmental
review.
This
is
something
that
doesn't
occur
right
now.
That
we
think
is
a
big
Improvement
council.
Member
as
it
relates
to
the
things
that
people
are
concerned
about
in
their
neighborhoods,
which
is
do
we
have
better
coordination
among
all
the
agencies
that
need
to
review
these
things,
because,
right
now
you
know
there's
these
pre-application
meetings,
but
those
are
really
just
telling
an
applicant
what
their
process
will
look
like.
F
It's
not
any
kind
of
collaboration
across
agencies
to
say.
Are
we
addressing
all
these
issues,
whether
it's
a
transportation,
related
issue
or
a
public
works
issue
or
the
whole
Litany
of
things,
trees,
landscape?
Part
of
to
getting
to
your
issue
that
we
heard
a
lot
about?
Is
we
have
to
have
better
coordination
early
on
to
ensure
the
things
that
we
care
about
in
our
neighborhood
are
being
addressed
in
the
process?
F
So
this
is
an
addition
that
speaks
to
that
and
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
your
question
council
member
Sanchez
in
a
minute,
because
I
have
another
slide
related
to
that.
But
I
want
to
talk
about
this
allowed
use
allowed
forum
for
just
a
minute.
F
So
this
is
the
notion
that,
within
this
gets
back
to
ensuring
that
our
processes
are
helping
us
achieve
our
desired
outcomes
in
this
ordinance
and
so,
for
instance,
I'm
going
to
use
a
specific
case
here.
But
we
have
Within
These
mixed
use
zones.
F
Instances
where
you
are
an
allowed
use
and
you're
also
in
a
loud
form
versus
an
alternative
form.
So
the
one
that's
probably
the
simplest
to
speak
about
is
the
MX3,
which
is
along
a
few
corridors
like
State,
Street,
Vista
Fairview,
where
we're
seeking
to
get
denser
Transit,
oriented,
more
pedestrian,
designed
buildings
and
and
neighborhoods,
and
so
in
a
place
like
that.
F
We
want
to
make
such
things
denser,
pedestrian
design,
Transit
oriented
projects
easier
to
achieve
so
that's
called
allowed
use
a
loud
form
if
you're
in
an
mx-3-
and
you
haven't-
allowed
you
so
you're
doing
an
office
building
or
office
in
retail
or
even
residential
in
retail,
but
you're
not
doing
it
in
the
form
that
we
want.
So
you
could
have
a
single
story
or
two-story
building
with
surface
parking,
or
you
know
something
like
that
which
isn't
the
preferred
form.
Then
it's
an
alternative
form.
F
So
it's
a
type
three
so
that
does
go
to
a
here
and
I
got
an
example
of
that.
It's
not
the
greatest
example,
but
here
this
is
an
MX3
zone.
So
an
example
of
this
condition
here
where,
on
the
left,
you
have
a
allowed
use
a
loud
form
that
we're
seeking
on
in
an
MX3
zone.
So,
okay
you're
a
type
two.
You
can
proceed
on
the
right.
You
have
something
that's
in
an
MX3
that
that
isn't
the
preferred
form,
so
that
is
a
Type
3
and
requires
a
a
hearing.
F
So
the
image
on
the
right
is
generous.
The
concern
is
is
really
around
on
these
MX3
zones,
which
are
not
the
whole
city
we're
talking
about.
You
know
some
pretty
precise
application
of
MX3,
where
we
have
our
best
bus
service,
where
we
expect
bus
service
to
get
much
better
and
even
other
forms
of
transit
to
come
online.
We
really
want
to
achieve
that
denser
pedestrian
design
format.
F
The
concern
is
again
where
you
get
there,
we
a
single
story,
two-story
very
Suburban,
surface
Parks.
You
know
that
that's
not
good
in
an
MX3,
so
that's
that's
an
alternative
form,
even
though
it's
a
loud
use,
it's
an
alternative
form.
So
we
really
want
to
look
at
that.
So
that
applies
to
all
these
MX3
zones.
This
is
a
this
is
a
format
to
the
new
ordinance
that
we
really
wanted
to
incorporate
to
do
to
address
this
issue
of.
C
Madam
mayor
a
quick
question
observation:
if
you've
got
allowed
use
in
a
loud
form
and
it's
going
to
move
through
the
process
efficiently
and
then
you've
got
another
parallel
application
that
has
allowed
use
alternative
form.
That's
going
to
go,
get
this
additional.
D
C
G
C
F
I,
you
know
I
I,
think
well,
first
of
all,
to
directly
to
the
question
we'll
have
to
write
the
standards
by
which
those
reviews
would
occur.
So
it's
precise
as
to
what
has
prompted
this
public.
You
know
meeting,
so
you
can
go
down
the
list.
Okay,
it's
for
these
reasons
that
we're
reviewing
this
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
that
we
feel
strongly
that
that
we
want
to
achieve
the
desired
form.
F
G
C
The
thought
that
I
had
was,
you
can
imagine
a
scenario
where
you're
right,
the
photo
is
generous,
but
the
desired
form
is
on
the
left.
The
project
comes
in
on
the
right
and
then
the
hearing,
examiner
or
or
who,
whatever
board
or
body
hears
it
gets
public
testimony
that
what
is
on
the
right
is
too
big
in
scale
yeah
right.
F
E
Come
here,
Tim
sort
of
along
these
same
lines,
I
know
that
subdivisions
are
required
to
come
to
city
council
if
I'm
not
mistaken
by
the
Lupa.
E
However,
if
we
have
a
subdivision,
we
we
have
we're
going
to
establish
some
Maybe
higher
density
standards.
Frankly
in
our
residential
zones
than
what
we've
had
previously,
we've
traditionally
seen
those
subdivisions
come
in
in
those
residential
zones,
much
below
the
allowed
maximum
density.
Is
there
going
to
be
anything
in
the
review
process
that
would
make
it
easier
for
a
subdivision
to
make
it
through
the
process
if
it
were
actually
meeting
the
allowed
density
or
within
a
certain
percentage
of
it,
rather
than
rather
than
below
it
like.
We
typically.
F
Should
it's
an
interesting
point,
council
member
we-
and
we
have
not
talked
about
that
yet
I.
Think,
though,
that
that's
we
expect
to
get
lots
of
good
ideas
through
this
public
process
to
you
know,
consider
what
other
additions
should
be
made
that
are
in
the
spirit
of
the
way,
we're
organizing
this.
F
Okay,
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
example
of
some
of
the
background
into
the
findings.
You
know,
because
we're
going
through
all
the
findings
to
to
make
amendments
there
to
again
be
consistent
with
the
overall
goals
of
the
new
ordinance.
So
this
is
just
one
example,
and
this
may
be
kind
of
subtle
to
some,
but
you
know
that
currently
an
example,
the
traffic
impact
is
minimized,
is
the
way
this
thing
is
described.
We're
saying
we're
going
to
minimize
traffic.
F
F
So
existing
process
versus
Council
process
and
council
member
Sanchez,
this
kind
of
gets
back
to
your
question
in
a
way,
and
that
is
the
neighborhood
involvement
and
so
forth,
which
you
know
we
are
committed
to
having
neighborhoods
involved
in
satisfying
ways
that
again
are
predictable
and
it's
a
little
bit
across
all
over
the
place
right
now
and
and
so
to
on
top.
F
Here
you
see
a
pre-application
meeting,
which
again
is
just
a
staff
meeting,
but
the
the
the
whatever
the
concept
is
that
we're
reviewing
in
a
pre-application
could
run
the
gamut
from
it's
an
almost
zero
percent.
F
But
the
idea
is
that
you
come
in
with
a
consistently
conceptual
design
that
meets
certain
standards,
that
we
can
review
and
then
go
to
the
neighborhood
meeting
then
come
back
to
City
staff
again
for
a
meeting
and
for
us
to
convene
the
interdepartmental,
Review
Committee,
so
you've
got
the
neighborhood
feedback.
You've
got
across-the-board
staff
and
other
agency
feedback
before
you
go
to
them
submitting
an
application
which
is
you
know
it
just
doesn't
work
like
that
now
you're,
getting
applications
that
aren't
even
well
thought
through
or
have
gotten
no
feedback.
F
You
know
when
the
application
occurs,
so
it
it
just
it's
it's
trying
to
very
be
very
intentional
about
a
process
where
you
can
work
through
these
issues
with
neighborhoods
at
a
point
in
the
process
where
it's
not
too
late,
but
it's
not
too
early.
So
you
know
you
can
see
something
that
you
can
understand,
but
it's
not
all
baked
at
that
point
and
and
then
get
that
multi-agency
review
such
that
the
application
that
is
submitted
reflects
all
this
imp.
F
All
this
you
know
feedback
from
neighborhoods
and
all
the
city
staff
that
should
be
reviewing
this
and
then
one
other
thing
is:
we've
been
working
on
a
tool
that
would
allow
people
better
access
to.
What's
going
on.
You
know
again
to
this
issue
of
people
and
neighborhoods,
knowing
exactly
what's
going
on
on
their
street
or
their
neighborhood.
F
Is
this
new
tool
that
we
will
launch
in
conjunction
with
the
new
ordinance
that
allows
you
to
to
really
see
what's
happening
and
then
other
things
in
association
with
where
that
neighborhood
meeting
sits
in
the
process
and
how
that's
a
again
a
satisfying
meaningful
interaction
between
the
neighborhood
and
the
developer
or
applicant
and
and
ways
to
do
that.
F
So
earlier,
neighborhood
meeting
as
I
said,
requiring
a
summary
to
be
submitted
for
the
neighborhood
through
the
city
and
then
having
this
online
tool
to
for
people
to
stay
up
to
date
on
what's
happening
within
their
community
and
then
I'll
finish
with
where
we're
headed
now.
So
we've
got
a
series
of
five
public
meetings
coming
up
on
module.
Three
one
of
those
will
be
entirely
online,
but
but
starting
on
October
13th
at
Timberline,
High
School
we'll
have
a
series
of
meetings
on
this.
As
I
said
earlier.
F
This
is
a
lot
of
information
to
go
through
and
try
to
understand.
We
like
we
have
at
the
previous
meetings,
particularly
over
the
summer,
we'll
have
a
very
kind
of
interactive
event
with
people.
So
there'll
be
lots
of
additional
explanations
of
this
information.
We
will
have
a
brief
presentation:
we'll
have
q
a
as
we
have
before,
but
we'll
also
have
much
more
information
set
up
for
people
to
try
to
work
through
this
I'll
remind
you
too
and
I'm
sure.
F
If
I
have
this
now,
you
know
the
good
news
is
we
still
have
time
to
to
work
on
this,
we're
tracking
towards
an
approval
next
year,
as
we'd
always
been
planning,
but
we'll
go
through
these
public
meetings,
we'll
get
feedback
on
module.
Three,
we'll
we'll
we'll
work
on
a
a
final
kind
of
Consolidated
draft
that
will
include
ideas.
F
We
got
about
modules,
one
and
two
and
three
and
then
be
able
to
submit
that
for
official
approval
process
early
next
year
so
that
it
can
get
through
required
public
hearings
and
get
through
pnz
to
city
council.
So
you
know
this
is
a
lot
of
information
to
take
in.
It
will
require
some
studying,
but
we
have
time
and
and
we'll
now
be
in
what
you
know
a
month
or
even
more
of
public
meeting
for
people
to
to
learn
more
about
it
and
and
bring
us
the
concerns
they
have
about
it.
F
So
that's
where
we
are
and
we'll
get
started
with
public
meetings
here
soon.
So
we
have
the
CAC
meeting
wanted
to
report
to
you
on
this
and
then
go
out
to
the
public
for
these
meetings.
H
Tim,
thanks
for
the
presentation,
a
couple
slides
back,
there's
kind
of
a
view
of
like
two
processes,
the
current
one
that
we've
got.
That's
the
one
so
I
think
that
I,
don't
think
any
of
the
city
council
want
to
just
like
Fast
Track,
every
single
development
proposal
that
comes
through,
but
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that,
like
proposals
are
getting
through,
good
ones
are
getting
through
quickly
and
solving
the
needs
and
the
problems
that
our
city
is
facing.
H
So
if
I'm
looking
at
this
I
see
one
that
like
has
a
lot
fewer
steps
than
the
other
one,
that
has
a
lot
more
steps,
but
I
think
what
you're
telling
me
is
that
the
process
gets
hung
up,
maybe
at
the
last
two,
because
the
community
hasn't
had
a
chance
to
weigh
in
they
come
in
in
full
force
may
be
really
upset
about
a
project
it
potentially
gets
appealed
at
that
point
or
Council
or
Planning
and
Zoning
adds
complications
into
it.
That
makes
it
even
more
challenging.
H
So,
even
though
there's
more
steps
in
the
bottom
process,
the
hope
is
a
lot
of
those
problems
are
worked
out
early
on.
There's
less
appeals
in
some
of
the
concerns
that
counselor,
Planning
and
Zoning
might
have
will
already
be
addressed
to
kind
of
shorten
that
process
am
I
getting.
Is
that
a
accurate
you.
F
Described
it
well,
council,
member
I
would
just
go
back
to
to
this
issue
of
there.
It's
not
predictable
right
now.
You
know
I.
Think
one
of
one
of
this
isn't
about
the
speed
of
this,
the
one
on
the
top
and
the
one
on
the
bottom.
They
could
be
the
same
amount
of
time
or
the
one
on
the
bottom
could
be
slightly
less.
F
It
all
has
to
do
with
do.
I
know
how
much
time
I'm
talking
about
and
and
and
can
I
count
on
that,
and
so
it
it
a
lot
of
the
the
a
lot
of
the
Improvement
associated
with
this
goes
back
to
the
overall
structure
of
the
thing,
the
four
types:
what
agencies
review
each
of
the
types?
Where
do
the
appeals
go?
You
know
that
so
there's
there's
a
streamlining
and
I
don't
mean
streamlining
such
that
we're
that
we're
helping
people
get
through
with
projects
that
we
don't
want.
It's
it's
all
organized
around.
F
What
do
we
want
and
then
how
do
we
create
a
process?
That's
predictable
and
streamlined
for
what
we
want,
but
I
think
the
way
you
described
it
council
member
is
really
good
too,
because
right
now
you
could
get
in
really
fast,
but
then
it
takes
so
much
longer
at
the
end,
because
there's
not
consensus
or
even
knowledge
necessarily
of
what's
going
on,
so
it
gets
bogged
down
later,
which
is
a
lot
of
the
frustration
for
people
that
are
trying
to
do
good
things
cool.
Thank
you.
E
A
couple
of
things
so
I
one
thing
I
just
want
to
clarify.
As
we
talked
about
the
administrator,
the
various
types
of
of
review
non-conforming
use
was
in
there,
but
then
a
major
non-conforming
use
was
in
three,
so
I'm,
assuming
what's
listed
in
type
2,
is
a
de
minimis
non-conforming
use.
That
is
the
criteria
for
that
less
than
50
percent.
Or
is
it
will
we
have
some
criteria
on
that
with.
I
E
I
E
A
E
It
okay.
Thank
you.
That's
helpful
on
the
interdepartmental
review.
It
occurs
to
me
that
some
of
our
departments
have
some
pretty
specific
standards,
say
fire
for
instance,
and
response
time
and
others
are
maybe
not
as
far
along
and
I.
Don't
want
to
hold
this
up
for
that,
but
I'm
thinking,
for
instance,
a
10-minute
walk
to
a
park.
E
Are
we
going
to
review
when
we
do
those
things?
Are
we
going
to
review?
Is
there
a
park
within
a
10-minute
walking
distance
of
this?
E
Do
you
have
to
cross
an
arterial
to
get
to
it
those
kinds
of
things
so
that
we
can
clearly
identify
where
the
holes
are
in
the
community
and
begin
working
toward
filling
them?
However,
it
is
we
fill
them.
F
Council
member,
it's
a
good
point.
I
think
the
expectation
was
that
this
this
interdepartmental
group
would
be
reviewing,
though,
while
they
could
make
note
of
issues
of
concern
associated
with
any
individual
project
that
really
what
that
what
they
were,
what
they
were
doing
was
coordinating
around
requirements
that
they
have.
F
So
in
that
case,
an
issue
around
Park
availability
within
a
proximity
of
the
site
would
be
interesting
and
noteworthy,
but
it
wouldn't
slow
them
down
right.
You
know
it
would.
It
would
be,
let's
make
a
note
of
that,
but
that's
a
part
of
a
bigger
planning
issue.
This
would
really
be
just
related
to
the
technical
requirements
that
we're
expecting
of
that
applicant
yeah.
G
E
E
We
could
make
some
agreements
with
achd
in
terms
of
the
kind
of
review
we
get
from
them
and
the
things
we
expect
you
mentioned
the
tis
and
whether
or
not
we
should
require
one
I'm
becoming
more
and
more
of
the
mind
that
in
a
built
City
like
we
are,
it
really
doesn't
do
much
good
that
the
review
that
does
good
is
what's
the
network
look
like.
Where
are
the
connections?
E
Are
there
Crossings
on
the
major
road
we're
not
going
to
widen
our
roads
because
we
added
a
200
unit
apartment,
for
instance,
right
so
just
wondering
what,
if
anything,
we've
thought
of
in
terms
of
working
with
ADHD,
specifically,
but
also
VRT,
for
instance,
on
on
identifying
the
things
we
really
need
to
review
in
these
and
working
on
the
others
in
the.
F
E
F
G
You,
madam
mayor
yeah,
thank
you.
Tim
I,
really
appreciate
that
letting
us
know
about
that
that
new
process
I
think
it's
been
a
a
source
of
frustration
for
a
lot
of
members
of
our
community
and
for
those
of
us
who
you
know,
joined
the
city
council
and
we're
not
familiar
with
any
of
these
processes
and
I.
G
D
G
And
so
thank
you
for
doing
that.
I
think
some
of
those
partner
agencies
that
are
pretty
familiar
and
commonplace
like
achd
and
such
you
mentioned
other
partners.
Can
you
give
us
examples
of
other
groups
that
we
could
look
forward
to
participating
in
that
part
of
the
process.
I
Mayor
council,
member
Sanchez,
yes,
the
interdepartmental
review
will
focus
on
internal,
so
it
could
be
anything
from
fire.
Public
Works
those
individuals.
But
when
we
look
out
at
our
outside
agencies
it
could
be
irrigation
districts,
it
could
be
our
public
utility
providers.
It
could
be
a
number
of
those
individuals
that
could
be
impacted
or
even
school
districts
to
make
sure
that
not
only
are
we
planning
our
growth
but
we're
aligning
our
plans
for
growth
between
them.
D
Dr
King:
can
you
give
us
a
sense
of
how
this
new
process
compares
to
other
cities
process
of
our
similar
size,
because
we're
kind
of
an
outlier
here
in
Idaho?
So
talk
to
me
talk
to
us
about
what
this
looks
like
in
a
city
in
another
state
and
how
does
it
compare
well.
F
The
I
think
the
the
you
know-
cities
across
this
country,
are
all
in
this
state
of
trying
to
update
zoning
ordinances
that
date
to
the
60s
70s
80s.
Everybody
adopted
ordinances
at
that
time,
so
everybody's
working
through.
How
do
we
create
new
ordinances
and
what
are
the
processes
that
that
we
create
in
conjunction
with
that,
I
will
tell
you
this
module.
3
part
is
the
one.
F
That's
been
the
most
frustrating
for
cities,
because,
while
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
around
the
zoning
part
like
what
do
we
zone
property
and
and
what
are
people's
rights
to
build?
There's
been
a
lot
of
progress.
You
could
say
on
that
topic
where
there's
been
less
progress
is
on
the
process
that
people
follow
and
a
lot
of
frustration
around
that.
F
But
my
second
part
of
the
answer
is
this:
interdepartmental
review
agency
piece
is
something
that
in
cities
where
processes
are
you're
getting
better
outcomes,
such
committees
exist,
and
so
it's
it's
a
little
unusual
for
a
city
of
this
size
to
not
have
such
a
thing
and
and
so
Boise's
kind
of
been
going
along
without
it.
F
For
quite
you
know,
forever
I
guess
and
so
I
think
that
addition,
when
you
look
at
other
cities,
council
member,
is
one
that
will
achieve
really
helpful
results
for
us
and
that's
been
the
experience
in
other
cities.
G
One
more
please
so
Tim
I'm
thinking
about
something
I
recently
saw
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
something
we
did
at
the
airport
where
we
had
this
mock
emergency.
When
we
had
volunteers
coming
forward,
acting
as
victims
of
you
know
an
emergency
situation,
a
hazardous
situation
is
there
a
plan
to
test
the
system.
Are
we
going
to
have
like
a
case
study
folks
who
give
it
a
give
it
a
whirl,
see
see
where,
where
it
works,
where
it
needs
to
be
tweaked
that
sort
of
thing.
F
Yes,
council
member,
thank
you
we're
actually
working
on
those
case.
Studies
now
for
both
denser
places
like
MX3,
along
those
corridors
as
well
as
neighborhoods
and
and
how
did
the
regulations
work
today
and
how
would
they
work
under
the
new
ordinance
so
we're
working
on
them
now.
G
Thank
you,
Tim
I'm,
really
hoping
you
test
that
that
interdepartmental
outer
departmental
review
part
of
the
process,
I
I'm,
really
curious
to
see
how
that
works.
E
Yeah
mayor
could
I
ask
just
one
quick
question
on
timing.
After
these
upcoming
meetings,
you'll
be
finalizing
the
language
I
assume
there
will
be
a
time
when
we'll
have
a
chance
to
actually
look
at
the
language
before
it
gets
finalized
for
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
F
Of
course,
that's
working
on
this
Jessica,
not
everybody
but
Jessica,
zlag's
team
in
planning,
which
includes
Deanna
and
Lena
and
Andrea,
and
then
Lindsay,
of
course,
from
CE
who's
really
been
helping
with
all
the
public
Outreach,
and
they
have
really
taken
ownership
of
this,
and
it's
been
greatly
appreciated
by
the
entire
Community,
but
most
recently
by
the
CAC.
When
we
met
last
week.
This
feeling
that
hey
this
is
this
is
ours
now
and
we
can.
F
A
Well,
thanks
for
the
update-
and
yes,
thanks
to
the
team,
I've
had
great
feedback
from
members
of
CAC
from
all
walks
of
life
I'm
on
where
this
is
headed,
the
reflection
and
updates
that
were
made
after
modules,
one
and
two
and
really
appreciate
the
work
of
the
whole
city
team.
That's
helping
to
get
this
done
thanks.