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B
We
have
Heather
Buchanan
hi,
welcome
to
share
an
update
on
our
with
you
alone,
foreign.
J
Council
members,
as
mayor
said,
I'm
Heather,
Buchanan,
I'm,
the
Public
Works
chief
administrative
officer
and
tonight
I'm
here,
to
give
you
a
brief
update
on
our
what
we're
doing
with
our
water
renewal,
Bond
financing
and
our
wifey
alone
program.
In
light
of
a
resolution
that
we
have
on
the
consent
agenda
for
your
approval
this
evening,
oops.
J
There
we
go
so
in
2020,
mayor
and
Council,
you
approved
our
watery
Knoll
utility
plan
and
with
that
it
set
the
Strategic
direction
for
our
water
renewal
utility,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
capital
projects
and
so
forth
that
were
included
in
that
plan.
So
once
we
approve
the
utility
plan,
then
we
also
move
forward
with
a
financial
plan
that
adopt
developed
how
we
need
to
pay
for
those
different
capital
projects.
J
One
of
those
new
items,
as
far
as
the
utility
financial
plan
was
asking
you
all
to
approve
us
moving
forward
with
Bond
authorization.
You
agreed
to
that.
So
we
went
to
the
voters
and
asked
them
a
little
over
a
year
ago
to
approve
us
issuing
water
renewal
revenue
bonds.
So
we
got
resounding
approval
of
that
from
the
voters.
81
percent
approved
that
and
it
allows
us
within
the
water
renewal
utility
to
issue
up
to
570
million
dollars
of
revenue
bonds.
J
So
our
first
water
renewal
issuance
was
our
22
bond
series.
It
was
closed,
June
30th
this
year
and
our
first
issuance
is
for
80
million
dollars
that
gave
us
an
interest
rate
of
roughly
4.36
percent.
The
benefits
of
Market
issuance
bonds
are
kind
of
listed
on
the
side.
There
I
won't
go
through
the
specific
details,
but
it
is
a
good
program
for
us
as
far
as
our
bond
issuance.
What
we're
mainly
here
to
talk
about
is
the
withia
program,
though,
and
with
you
stands,
for
water
infrastructure,
finance
and
Innovation
act.
J
J
The
remaining
51
percent
of
the
projects
would
be
funded
by
other
cash
and
bond
proceeds,
so
some
of
the
bond
proceeds
from
our
22
issuance
would
be
going
towards
funding
this
the
rest
of
the
projects
and
we'll
also
anticipate
doing
another
Market
issuance
Bond,
potentially
in
2024..
So
one
of
the
primary
benefits
of
the
with
you
program
is
the
flexibility
of
the
terms,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
different
flexibility
terms
and
some
of
them
I've
listed
here.
We
have
the
potential
of
receiving
lower
interest
rates
in
comparison
to
a
market
issuance
Bond.
J
It's
also
a
drawdown
process
so,
rather
than
getting
all
the
money
up
front
and
starting
to
pay
right
away
on
it,
it's
a
drawdown
process.
So
we
can
draw
those
funds
over
the
course
of
time
and
interest.
Then
only
a
cruise
on
the
money
that
you
draw
down
or
we
will
draw
down,
and
then
we
also
have
the
ability,
one
time
during
the
loan
to
adjust
our
interest
rate.
So,
if
rates
reduce,
we
can
go
back
and
negotiate
with
EPA
to
reduce
our
interest
rate
over
time.
So
that's
a
good
benefit
as
well.
J
So,
in
particular
for
the
with
your
loans,
then
we've
requested
399
million
dollars
for
a
total
loan
request,
it's
being
split
into
two
loans.
Our
first
loan
is
what
will
be
closing
next
Tuesday
with
EPA.
There
will
be
a
second
loan
for
a
smaller
amount
that
will
we
haven't
decided
when
we'll
close.
There
are
a
few
requirements.
We
still
have
to
meet
for
our
Environmental
Compliance,
so
that
will
be
in
the
future,
but
the
first
loan
out
of
the
399
million
total.
It
would
be
264
million
dollars
of
that
we're
estimating.
J
If
we
were
to
close
today,
the
interest
rate
would
be
about
3.76
percent,
so
we
should
be
in
that
ballpark
next
week,
even
though
we're
locking
in
the
interest
rate
with
that
closing
next
week,
we
don't
expect
to
start
drawing
those
funds
until
our
fiscal
year
2025.
So
it
gives
us
the
benefit
of
locking
in
a
lower
interest
rate.
J
Now,
even
though
we
know
or
are
expecting
interest
rates
to
continue
to
increase
over
the
next
two
years,
we'll
be
locking
in
that
lower
rate
for
this
portion
of
the
funds
and
then
again,
as
I
mentioned
it
also,
we
still
have
that
opportunity.
If
rates
do
come
back
down
sometime
in
the
future,
we
could
make
that
negotiation
again
to
reduce
rates,
so
we'll
come
back
again
in
the
future
to
close
that
second
loan.
So
we'll
ask
approval
of
you,
mayor
and
Council
to
do
that
in
the
future.
J
Previously
at
our
West
Boise
water
renewal
facility,
Regulatory
and
capacity
projects
within
our
collection
system,
we
do
scheduled
repair
and
replacement
projects,
so
we're
funding
those
with
these
bond
funds,
we're
also
implementing
the
Recycled
water
program
and
that
will
add
5
million
gallons
of
additional
capacity
to
our
system.
And,
last
but
not
least,
is
our
enhance
the
river
program,
which
is
allowing
us
to
do
some
really
Innovative
projects
along
the
river
rather
than
installing
mechanical
improvements
at
the
facilities.
J
So
then,
last
but
not
least,
the
documents
that
are
on
the
agenda,
as
I
mentioned
tonight,
there's
a
resolution
that
we're
asking
your
approval
of
that
resolution
authorizes
staff
to
execute
the
loan
agreement.
So
we'll
ask
the
mayor
to
sign
the
loan
agreement
and
Linda
Lowry
would
be
the
signatory
for
any
other
agreement
or
documents
that
go
along
with
that
loan
agreement.
It
also
delegates
future
signing
approval
for
quarterly
reporting
down
to
staff
level,
so
that
would
be
to
Steve
Burgos,
David,
hosckel
and
myself
for
those
quarterly
reporting.
J
B
It's
this
loan
provides
us
the
opportunity
to
move
ahead
with
our
water
renewal
plans,
thanks
to
the
voters
approval,
but
at
a
lower
interest
rate
than
we
would
get
otherwise,
and
this
is,
as
you
can
see,
it's
the
first
step
and
several
will
be
taking,
but
just
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you
and
the
team
have
done
with
EPA,
to
make
this
a
reality
and
and
look
forward
to
seeing
this
actually
mean
boots
on
the
ground,
shovels
in
the
dirt
and
we're
moving
stuff
forward.
Thank
you,
mayor,
Madam,.
F
Mayor
I
didn't
have
a
question,
but
did
want
to
also
comment
that
the
ability
to
fund
some
of
these
more
Innovative
projects
now
really
can
make
a
difference
in
meeting
our
climate
action
goals
sooner
and
we
might
otherwise.
So,
in
addition
to
saving
money,
I
think,
ultimately,
it
will
be
better
for
the
environment
as
well.
K
The
mayor
brought
up
the
interest
rate
and
I
remember
earlier
this
year
we
talked
a
lot
about
like
how
do
we
lock
in
this
interest
rate
as
soon
as
possible,
because
we
all
saw
the
writing
on
the
wall.
Remind
me:
are
we
going
to
need
to
get
another
loan
later?
That
could
have
higher
interest
rates,
and
could
you
walk
us
through
that?
A
little
bit.
J
Mayor
council,
member
Willits,
thank
you
for
the
question.
We
do
anticipate
doing
another
Market
issuance.
We
are
currently
planning
on
that
to
be
in
fiscal
year
2024..
J
So
one
of
the
benefits
of
the
wifey
alone
program
is
that
we're
locking,
in
this
interest
rate
on
the
first
loan
now
and
we
can
start
drawing
that
earlier
if
we
need
to
we're
not
anticipating
to
start
using
those
funds
until
2025.
If
rates
continue
to
go
up
and
we
decide
not
to
do
a
market
issuance
in
2024,
we
could
start
drawing
on
our
Wiki
alone
waiting
for
adjustments
in
the
market
rates
in
the
future.
So
that
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
in
our
plan
as
well.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right
now,
we've
got
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
with
an
asterisk
are
considered
to
be
routine
by
the
council
and
will
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
There's
no
separate
discussion
on
these
items
unless
a
council,
member
or
citizen
so
requests,
in
which
case
the
item
will
be
removed
from
the
general
order
of
business
and
considered
in
its
normal
sequence.
K
Before
we
have
a
motion,
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
last
time
we
took
all
of
the
park
approvals
separately
and
I
I.
Don't
think
we're
going
to
do
that
again
today,
but
I
just
want
to
make
a
note
that
again
we
are
going
through
each
of
these
Parks,
the
the
Deeds
are
being
changed
and
I
just
think
it's
worth
noting,
because
it
can
get
buried
on
the
consent
agenda.
B
Thank
you
very
much
I'm
looking
now
at
we've
been
doing
them
alphabetically
and
it
looks
like
we
start
with
E
tonight
and
take
another
10.
F
F
A
B
F
F
Mayor
before
I
make
the
motion.
I
would
just
note
that
this
is
the
enactment
of
the
property
tax
rebate
program
that
was
authorized
last
session
by
the
Idaho
State
Legislature
and
wanted
to
thank
the
administration
and
staff
for
promptly
making
sure
that
our
citizens
could
take
advantage
of
this
program
so
that
they
can
have
an
expanded
circuit.
Breaker
property
tax
rebate
and
with
that
I
would
move
up.
I
would
sorry
move
that
further
reading
of
ordinance
5122
be
dispensed
with,
and
the
record
reflect
that
it
has
been
read
for
the
third.
L
F
L
I
D
Like
yes,
Holly
Burton,
yes
Sanchez,
yes,
all
in
favor
motion
carries
ord-51-22
an
ordinance
enacting
a
property
tax
reboot
program
as
authorized
by
Idaho
code,
section
50-235,
reaffirming
that
1.2
million
dollars
has
been
appropriated
to
fund
the
tax
rebate
program,
providing
instructions
and
deadlines
for
property
taxpayers
to
apply
for
a
property
tax
rebate,
setting
forth
the
formula
to
be
used
to
calculate
property.
Tax
rebates,
providing
a
method
for
distribution
of
property,
tax
rebates
and
providing
an
effective
date.
B
F
I
D
F
B
Now
we
will
move
into
public
hearings.
Our
first
public
hearing
is
for
review
and
consideration
of
the
Boise
districting
commission's
proposed
districting
plan
and
before
Hannah
kicks
off
the
presentation.
I
want
to
thank
the
members
of
the
commission
that
put
in
so
much
time
to
do
this
for
the
first
time
for
the
city
of
Boise,
and
so
you
know
the
map
before
us.
B
There
are
guidelines
that
handle
go
through
in
terms
of
how
we
make
these
considerations,
but
I'm
really
impressed
by
the
commission
members
commitment
to
being
part
of
this
for
the
first
time
and
doing
all
that
they
could
do
to
meet
the
the
ordinance
as
Council
put
forward
with
regard
to
keeping
these
numbers
or
percentages
low,
that
we
see
on
these
maps
and
doing
the
magic
of
not
breaking
up
precincts
in
the
city.
So
thank
you.
If
you'll
extend
that
to
the
whole
commission,
I'd
really
appreciate
it.
M
Mayor
member
of
the
council,
I
am
here
tonight
to
bring
you
the
final
report
very
happy
to
bring
you
the
final
report
from
the
district
and
commission
Hannah
Nebraska
director
of
strategic
initiatives.
M
I'll
just
start
again
with
a
reminder:
I,
don't
think
you
all
need
it,
but
just
for
the
public
that
the
legislature
passed
a
bill
requiring
cities
of
over
a
hundred
thousand
to
elect
city
council
by
district
and
before
the
21
election.
Because
of
the
short
time
frame,
you
all
engaged
a
consultant
to
draw
the
current
plan,
but
wanted
to
have
a
more
transparent
process
and
also
public
engagement.
And
so
you
went
with
the
Boise
district
and
commission.
M
M
The
Commissioners
are
listed
up
here.
Mickey
love
was
our
chair.
Quinn
Perry
who's
here
tonight
is
our
vice
chair,
Kathy,
Peter,
Travis,
Spiker
and
Carolina
Valderrama,
echeverria
and
I'm,
not
sure
we
may
have
one
or
more
folks.
Online
we've
got
some
folks
out
of
town.
M
So
if
they're
there
thank
you
and
just
happy
to
share
with
you
all
that
they
they
also
shared
your
goals
of
transparency
and
public
engagement,
and
they
all
met
the
criteria
that
I
listed
and
then
some
Mickey
had
previously
worked
for
the
Ada
County
elections,
office
and
Drew
Precinct
lines.
Quinn
currently
works
for
the
School
Board
Association
and
helped
the
trustees
do
all
their
rezoning.
Kathy
worked
for
I'm
gonna,
get
it
right.
M
The
U.S
Geological
Survey
for
34
years
and
served
on
a
number
of
different
boards
and
commissions
Travis
has
extensive
GIS
experience
in
his
work
with
achd,
and
so
he
was
really
instrumental
in
a
lot
of
the
mapping
work
that
was
done
by
the
commission
and
Carolina
actually
worked
for
the
U.S
census
last
time
around
and
so
had
a
real
understanding
of
how
districting
can
impact
communities
and
before
I,
go
on
I.
Just
really
wanted
to
thank
the
staff
that
were
involved.
As
you
know,
this
is
a
unique
commission.
That's
shorter
term.
M
M
I
would
not
have
been
able
to
do
this
without
her
Eric
from
it
was
our
GIS
magician
and
worked
closely
with
the
Commissioners,
both
in
presenting,
but
also
behind
the
scenes
with
them,
helping
them
with
the
with
the
maps
and
then
Rob
and
Jane
from
legal
also
supported
the
process
on
both
Commissioners
and
myself
through
the
process
and
so
again
in
thinking
about
public
engagement
and
transparency.
M
We
had
originally
scheduled
five
hearings,
including
the
one
required
public
hearing
for
this
process,
but
part
way
through
the
Commissioners
agreed
that
we
needed
a
little
more
time
and
a
little
more
conversation.
M
So
we
actually
had
seven
meetings
between
August
31st
and
November
16th,
including
two
public
hearings,
so
an
additional
public
hearing
to
what
was
required
across
those
two
hearings
we
had
about
50
people
testify,
in
addition
to
many
pieces
of
written
testimony,
that
the
Commissioners
reviewed
the
city
also
made
available
mathitude
software
for
not
only
the
Commissioners
but
also
the
public,
to
create
and
submit
Draft
plans
and
and
from
that
process.
Commissioners
reviewed,
20
Draft
plans
and
that's
a
combination
of
of
those
created
by
Commissioners
themselves.
M
Some
were
submitted
by
the
public
and
then
there
were
a
handful
that
came
from
either
started
from
one
that
was
submitted
by
public
or
what
sort
of
came
from
public
testimony
that
the
Commissioners
took
in
and
then
and
then
drew
some
additional
maps.
And
then
finally,
they
did
have
a
few
maps
that
came
in
outside
of
the
software,
but
were
emailed
in
that.
The
commission
also
reviewed.
M
And
as
they
were
doing
this
in
order
to
evaluate
their
own
map,
submissions
and
those
that
were
submitted
by
the
public
I
just
want
to
briefly
go
over
all
of
the
regulations
that
they
had
to
keep
in
mind.
It
was
not
an
easy
job,
Quinn
and
others
could
attest
to
that.
The
federal
and
state
requirements
come
from
the
Constitution,
the
Voting
Rights
Act
and
Idaho
code.
M
M
Under
the
Voting
Rights
Act
Voting
Rights
Act
vote.
Dilution
is
prohibited,
so
no
districts
can
be
drawn
to
minimize
or
cancel
out
any
voting
strength
of
a
racial
or
language
minority
group,
and
you
cannot
draw
districts
for
discriminatory
purposes
and
then
the
additional
requirement
under
code,
in
addition
to
the
population,
is
to
have
one
or
more
contiguous
election
precincts
in
in
each
district
and
then
in
city
code.
M
The
ordinance
that
you
all
adopted
earlier
this
year
and
and
part
of
one
that
you
did
before
the
21
election,
you
mirrored
some
of
the
requirements
or
all
the
requirements
in
in
Idaho
code,
so
equal
population,
contiguous
precincts,
you
added
a
couple
more
one.
Is
it
the
maximum
variance
would
be
10
between
the
least
populated
and
the
most
populated
districts.
Districts
must
be
compact,
no
shoe
string,
districts
and
districts
can't
be
drawn
to
protect
incumbents.
M
M
Okay,
so
all
you
can
you
can
look
at
this
image.
I
know
you
guys
have
a
big
map
in
front
of
you
and
I'll
go
into
that
in
a
little
more
detail,
but
just
wanted
to
sort
of
walk
you
through
how
the
commission
got
to
this
final
plan,
so
their
first
couple
of
meetings
were
really
to
orient
themselves
to
the
process,
to
the
legal
requirements
to
the
aptitude
software,
and
then
we
got
into
October
and
started
with
the
first
public
hearing
at
that.
M
At
that
meeting,
the
commission
looked
at
their
own
maps
that
they
had
submitted
as
well
as
Maps
submitted
by
the
public,
and
so
we
had
all
of
those
up
on
the
screen.
They
had
reviewed
them
ahead
of
time
as
well,
and
then
members
of
the
public
came
to
testify
and
at
the
time
draftplan
8
received
the
most
support.
No
decisions
were
made
at
that
meeting.
They
came
back
a
week
later
to
deliberate
and
decide
on
a
single
map
to
move
forward
to
the
next
public
hearing
and
during
during
the
interim.
M
They
took
some
some
of
the
pub
public
hearing
and
excuse
me
the
testimony
and
then
also
that
plan
eight
and
one
of
the
Commissioners
improved
upon
draft
plan.
Eight.
It
looks
very,
very
similar.
If
you
saw
them
side
by
side,
they
would
look
essentially
the
same.
The
only
thing
they
did
was
move
a
couple
of
the
boundaries
slightly
so
that
it
went
from
four
Precinct
splits
to
zero,
so
draft
plan
11
had
zero
Precinct
splits.
M
That
is
the
that
is
the
plan
that
Commissioners
voted
four
to
one
to
move
forward
to
that
November,
2nd
public
hearing.
So
we
they
held
the
hearing
on
November,
2nd
again
another
public
hearing
at
this
hearing,
the
the
plan
was
to
consider
draft
plan
11.
that's
what
they
voted
to
move
forward
and
they
did
that
discussed
it
amongst
themselves
and
also
members
of
the
public
came
and
testified
for
and
against.
I
would
say
at
that.
M
At
that
hearing
was
probably
I,
don't
have
the
math,
so
don't
hold
me
to
it,
but
about
a
third
for
draft
plan
11
and
two-thirds
against,
and
for
those
that
that
were
testifying
against
it.
Some
of
them
brought
a
new
draft
plan
to
be
considered,
and
so
they
talked
about
how
they
would
how
they
would
change
how
they
would
change
draft
plan.
11.
M
then
November,
9th
no
hearing,
but
that
is
when
the
cut
off
for
public
comment.
Written
comment
and
map
submissions
was
so
on.
November
9th.
We
sort
of
closed
the
process
so
that
the
commission
had
then
a
week
to
consider
and
review
everything.
We
also
talked
to
Ada
County
elections
office,
just
to
make
sure
that
the
maps
that
that
the
commission
was
considering
didn't
have
any
election
issues
and
they
reported
that
they
had
no
concerns.
M
And
then
they
came
back
on
the
16th
for
the
final
vote
and
at
that
hearing
they
they
reviewed
draft
plan
11
again
as
the
one
that
they
as
the
commission
had
moved
forward,
and
then
they
also
reviewed
what
became
draft
plan
20.,
and
that
plan
came
again
from
a
commissioner.
In
fact,
the
same
commissioner
did
math
11
and
map
20.
M
M
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
commission
voted
to
approve
draft
plan
11.,
and
in
doing
so,
they
made
the
following
findings
and
I'm
just
going
to
read
through
them,
so
we're
all
clear
on
what
the
findings
are,
that
the
plan
contains
districts
that
are
as
equal
as
practicable
and
that
contain
the
same
number
of
people
between
districts
to
the
nearest
extent
possible.
M
M
The
plan
keeps
divisions
of
communities
of
interest
and
census
tracts
to
a
minimum.
The
plan
does
not
minimize
or
cancel
out
the
voting,
strength
of
racial
or
language
minority
groups
and
was
not
drawn
for
any
discriminatory
purpose,
and
the
commission
then
certified
that
the
City
Council
seat
districts
in
plan
11
meet
the
criteria
set
forth
in
Idaho
code,
50,
707a
and
all
other
applicable
statutes
and
laws.
K
M
Does
it
look
like
yeah?
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
council
member.
Will
shoestring
is
just
sort
of
having
like
a
little
dangling
piece
if
you
will
so
if
sometimes
there
are
pieces
that
that
come
out
because
of
of
City
Limits
and
I'll
talk
about
that
when
when
we
pull
up
the
image,
but
if
you
had,
if
you
had
a
square
district
and
then
there
was
like
a
small
piece
that
was
dangling
into
another
District,
that
would
be
considered
shoestring.
B
It's
funny
there's
actually
a
CCDC
District
that
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
the
map
of
urban
renewal
districts
and
we
call
it
a
chicken
leg.
It's
like
this
district
and
it
just
goes
down.
28Th
Street
I
think
that
kind
of
goes
down.
It's
that
thing
trying
to
prevent
that
when
it
comes
to
voting
districts.
M
And
so
before
we
get
to
the
actual
image
just
to
review
again
for
you
all
the
council's
standard
of
review
so
per
the
ordinance
that
you
all
adopted,
you're
to
review.
The
districting
plan
is
proposed
by
the
commission
and
upon
finding
that
it
meets
the
criteria
set
forth
in
Idaho
code
5707a.
You
shall
adopt
the
plan
by
ordinance.
M
So
you
have
this
in
front
of
you
in
in
a
larger
format,
but
this
is
this:
is
the
districting
plan,
the
total
variance
population
variance
is
4.92
so
that
the
highest
being
2.26
above
the
target
population,
the
lowest
being
minus
2.66
and
there,
as
we
mentioned
before,
there
are
no
Precinct
splits
and
there
are
11
neighborhood
association,
splits
and
just
to
give
you
a
sense,
the
the
other
map
that
they
considered
their
last
meeting
map
20.
Also
had
zero
Precinct
splits,
it
had
I.
M
Have
it
in
here
five
point:
three:
eight
percent
deviation
and
I
believe
14
neighborhood
splits,
so
it
was
just
slightly
slightly
off
of
this.
What
I
think
is
helpful
is
to
look
at
this
image.
So
it's
the
same
map
that
you
have
in
front
of
you.
It's
the
Boise
districting
plan,
but
these
blue
lines
are
the
election
Precinct
overlays,
and
what
I
think
this
helps
explain.
Is
you
have
a
couple
districts,
one
two
and
three
that
have
what
seem
to
be
sort
of
more
linear
clear-cut
boundaries.
M
When
you
look
between
the
boundary
between
four
and
five
and
five
and
six,
those
are
a
little
curvy
or
wonky
whatever
term
you
want
to
use
because
of
those
precincts,
and
so
in
order
to
keep
the
precincts
splits
low
or
in
this
case,
to
zero.
Those
lines
had
to
had
to
follow
the
Ada
County
Precinct,
so
that
that
helps
explain
that
and
then
this
next
one
gives
you
the
same
map
again.
This
is
just
a
neighborhood
association
overlay.
I
M
I
B
K
I
have
another
question,
so
Hannah
looks
like
in
terms
of
the
plan
that
precincts
were
sacrosanct,
like
they
were
the
they
were
that
that
was
the
legal
boundary
that
you
were
looking
for
and
then
neighborhoods
came.
Second,
as
you
looked
at
the
different
plans,
were
there
other
maps
that
split
less
neighborhoods
and
actually
kept
the
precincts
whole
did
that
did
that
Miracle
get.
M
M
We
did
not
have
a
map
better
than
plan
11
than
draft
plan
11
that
had
zero
splits
and
lower
neighborhood
association
and
low
population
deviation.
This
was
the
gold
standard.
M
All
I
was
just
gonna
say:
is
it
show
it?
You
have
the
list
up
there,
I
can.
If
it's
small
I
can
read
through
it.
The
slits
are
Depot
bench:
downtown
Hillcrest,
North,
End,
South,
Coal,
Southeast,
Boise,
Southwest,
Ada,
County
alliance,
West,
Boise,
West,
downtown
west
end
and
West
Valley,
so
really
no
part
of
town
sort
of
avoided.
The
neighborhood
association
split
that
was
pretty
difficult
for
the
commission
to
do
precincts,
population
and
neighborhood
association,
but
this
one
did
keep,
keep
it
pretty
low.
M
F
Had
a
mirror
and
I
I
would
note
that
both
Southwest
Ada,
County,
Alliance
and
South
Coal
are
because
of
the
way
that
they're
only
partially
annexed
into
the
city.
Part
of
that
split
was
unavoidable.
M
Right
and
so
for
next
steps
before
you
today,
you
have
the
ordinance
by
which
you
would
adopt
the
districting
plan.
Eventually,
once
you
get
through
all
the
readings
assuming
you
approve,
you
have
the
public
hearing
tonight,
so
you
hear
from
folks
and
then
the
plan
would
go
into
effect
after
passage
upon
publication
and
then,
after
that,
I
would
be
back
to
you
with
sort
of
an
implementation
and
next
steps.
After
after
it's
published
and
if
that'll
stand
for
questions.
M
Madame
mayor
council,
member
Willits
I
would
have
to
go.
Look
the
the
20
plans
that
were
in
the
software
we
can.
We
can
pull
from
the
software.
M
K
N
Thank
you,
Hannah
I
just
have
a
question
about
the
numbering
of
the
districts.
What
was
and
currently
is
District
3
is
now
represented
on
the
map
is
District.
Six,
so
just
wondering
what
the.
M
Thought
process
is
there
sure
Madam
mayor
and
council
member
Sanchez,
and
commissioner
Perry,
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
during
the
meeting
where
they
numbered
numbered
the
districts
number
one
they
are
tasked
with
numbering
them,
so
they
needed
to
do
that
and
then
they,
the
way
the
districts
are
currently
numbered,
are
sort
of
not
in
any
chronological
order.
M
So
they
wanted
to
make
it
clear
and
they
also
wanted
to
make
it
so
that
you
wouldn't
have,
for
example,
everything
in
the
East
up
for
election.
At
the
same
time,
everything
in
the
west
upper
election.
At
the
same
time,
once
we
get
back
to
the
staggered
election
cycle,
and
so
that
was
their,
that
was
a
rationale
to
they.
They
started
with
one
where
it
was
and
then
they
just
went
around.
N
Madame
mayor
was
there
any
consideration
of
the
districts
that
ran
in
the
2021
race,
who
are
now
serving
two-year
terms
and
then,
if
the
incumbent
chooses
to
run
again,
it'll
only
again
be
for
a
two-year.
M
F
And
a
mirror
so
just
a
comment
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
our
charge.
Tonight,
our
charge
is
not
to
determine
whether
this
is
the
best
map
or
not.
Our
charge
is
to
determine
whether
the
commission
met
the
criteria
that
we
asked
them
to
meet
and
unless
we
can
make
a
substantial
finding
that
they
did
not
our
charges
to
move
this
forward.
To
ordinance
is
that.
M
Correct
correct
Madame,
Marin
councilman
member
Clegg,
you
can
remand
to
the
commission
Upon
A,
finding
supported
by
substantial
evidence
that
they
did
not
meet
the
legal
criteria
set
forth
in
this
Idaho
code,
section
or
Boise
city
code.
Thank.
K
M
L
B
Right
anything
further
for
Hannah
at
this
time
you
can
ask
more
questions
after
so,
we've
got
some
people
signed
up
here.
If
you
didn't
sign
up,
but
you're
here
to
testify,
you
can
just
raise
your
hand.
Is
there
anybody
if
you're
online
planning
to
testify
in
this?
Will
you
I
mean
ma'am
I,
see
you
after
I
go
through
the
list,
then
I'll
make
sure
everybody
else
gets
a
chance.
Is
there
anybody
online
if
you'll
raise
your
hand
planning
on
testifying
in
this
matter?
That'll
just
help
us
go
through
folks
yep.
B
O
I
would
I've
followed
the
city
council
elections
pretty
closely.
My
name
is
Lee.
Joe
lay
7109
Northview
Street
been
here
for
28
years
and
former
city
council
candidate
and,
as
I
saw,
the
election
take
place
last
year,
and
you
all
do
your
best
to
protect
yourselves
as
a
democratic
majority
as
a
Democrat
majority
city
council.
O
By
the
way
you
selected,
which
areas
we're
getting
were
having
elections,
I
thought
to
myself
well
at
least
I'll
get
a
chance
in
a
couple
years
to
run
in
in
my
district
and
I
will
get
that
chance.
However,
I
see
that
from
what
I
see
in
this
manipulation
of
the
maps
is
that
your
original
map
tends
to
be
a
little
more
fair.
I
understand
that
there
is
a
majority
Democrat
population
in
Boise,
but
the
original
map,
where
Miss,
Sanchez
and
Willis
and
I
forget,
who
else
was
got
it
recently?
O
Cutting
them
to
a
two-year
term
is
an
arbitrary
thing
for
starters,
and
the
original
map
does
allow
for
a
more
equal
representation,
I
Believe
by
by
party
affiliation,
even
though
that's
and
so
I
believe
that
we
have
some
democrat
leaning
in
the
commission
itself,
I'm
reasonably
certain
of
that,
and
that
this,
as
this
map
was
drawn
up,
it
was
drawn
up
to
create
one
Republican
district,
150,
50
district
and
four
Democrat
districts
and
I'm,
asking
you
or
I'm,
protesting
and
saying
that
we
have
in
the
marketplace
of
ideas.
O
You
can
compete
fairly
and
have
equal
representation
and
I
feel
that
the
original
District
map
that
you
came
up
with,
even
though
I've
been
disenfranchised
for
two
years.
Having
no
one
in
my
district
to
represent
me,
the
original
map
is,
is
a
better
representation
of
the
population
of
Boise,
rather
than
what
the
commission's
drawn
up
so
I
would
ask
that
we,
despite
all
the
work,
that's
been
done,
and
the
commission,
and
despite
the
fact
there
was
an
arbor.
You
know
that
you
wanted
to
be
more
open
about
it.
O
Whatever
the
consultant
Drew
up
was
actually
a
better
map
than
than
what
this
is,
and
they're
and
I'm
sure.
There's
always
always
problems
with
redistricting
maps,
and
nobody
will
always
be
happy.
But
I
do
see
that
this
manipulation
was
in
favor
of
a
more
solid
Democrat
majority,
which
you
you
guys
will
always
have
it's
still
Boise
and
we
will
end
up
with
you.
O
D
O
C
C
In
the
last
redistricting
meeting,
I
mentioned
that
each
part
of
Boise
is
like
a
different
world
socially
and
economically
I
even
explained
the
overall
feeling
between
each
area,
their
unique
quirks
that
only
those
that
live
there
understand
I
think
it
is
great
that
District,
six,
five
and
four
represents
their
areas
perfectly
and
I
mean
perfectly
I
express
my
concerns
with
West
Boise,
specifically
district
one.
Two
and
three
I
didn't
get
involved
with
the
mapping
until
the
very
last
meeting,
with
the
district
Commissioners
heard
from
the
public.
C
At
that
meeting,
I
kept
hearing
comments
about
getting
redistricting
concerns
to
the
Commission
in
a
timely
fashion.
What
was
the
point
of
hearing
from
the
public
at
that
last
meeting?
Many
folks
from
the
West
area
testified
against
the
map.
Was
it
supposed
to
be
a
good
job
commissioner's
well
done
type
meeting
I
only
heard
a
handful
of
those
Praises
towards
the
Commissioners
and
map
11..
However,
none
of
them
were
residents
of
West
Boise
West
Boise
was
present
in
a
big
way
in
the
last
meeting
and
the
decision
to
approve
map
11
proved
my
point.
C
The
dismissive
attitude
towards
West
Boise
I,
keep
hearing.
We
need
to
make
sacrifices,
why?
Why
is
it
that
West
Boise
has
to
do
all
the
adjusting
I
mean
I
mentioned
Maple,
Grove,
being
a
natural
separation
and
may
map?
11
has
five
mile
as
the
cutoff
point
that
cuts
my
neighborhood
in
half
I,
even
provided
an
alternative
map
where
it
would
keep
neighborhoods
together
more
as
a
helpful
tool,
even
Rebecca
Arnold,
the
new
Ada
County
Assessor
asked
the
commission
to
not
be
in
a
rush
and
look
at
the
map
more
closely
again.
C
C
The
stress
of
adjusting
and
accommodating
those
that
could
care
less
about
us
is
very
taxing
on
the
mind
and
body,
along
with
the
quality
of
community.
Even
a
woman
last
time
testified
of
a
neglected
Park
in
her
area
because
of
lack
of
adequate
representation
to
address
issues
in
a
timely
fashion.
Many
folks
at
the
last
meeting
mentioned
gerrymandering
and
the
commission
didn't
seem
to
really
hear
their
concerns.
C
I
am
basically
seeking
equal
respect
towards
the
West
End
regarding
neighborhood
Unity
that
you
currently
give
the
north
south
and
east
end
echoing
Rebecca
Arnold
I
encourage
you
to
take
more
time
to
consider
alternative
suggestions
brought
to
you
by
the
public.
Please
consider
the
alternative
map
that
was
presented
that
keeps
West
Boise
neighborhoods
United
as
much
as
possible
with
the
natural
divider
lines.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
P
Rob
Stark
vice
president
Barbara
Valley
neighborhood
association,
6865,
East,
Warm,
Springs,
Madame,
mayor
council
members.
The
barber
Valley
neighborhood
association
is
strongly
opposed
to
the
proposed
Boise
districting
plan,
as
it
separates
the
barber
Valley
from
our
adjacent
communities
of
Interest,
namely
much
of
Southeast
Boise,
especially
Columbia
Village,
Surprise
Valley,
and
the
neighborhoods
off
of
Columbia
Road,
the
15
billion
dollar.
P
Furthermore,
the
barber
Valley
has
more
in
common
with
Southeast
Boise
than
with
the
East
and
North
End
neighborhoods.
Students
from
the
barber
Valley
attended,
attend
Timberline
High
School
with
kids
from
the
southeast
and
participate
in
extracurriculars,
so
the
families
are
intertwined
in
their
daily
lives.
Barbara
Valley
residents,
frequent
businesses
and
services
in
Southeast,
Boise
Additionally,
the
barber
Valley
Surprise,
Valley
and
Columbia
Village
residents
all
share
a
critically
important
mutual
interest
in
the
natural
areas
that
are
not
only
adjacent
to
our
neighborhoods
but
are
Central
to
our
neighborhood's
identity.
P
These
include
the
barber
pool
Conservation
Area,
encompassing
both
sides
of
the
Boise
River
and
the
Boise
River
Wildlife
Management
Area
in
the
Foothills
above
the
barber
Valley.
Our
neighborhoods
have
a
vital
interest
in
both
protecting
and
enjoying
these
resources.
The
barber
Valley
is
also
in
the
same
Parks
planning
district
with
Southeast
Boise
and
Warm
Springs
Mesa.
So
it
would
also
track
that
these
neighborhoods
are
represented
by
the
same
elected
council.
P
In
the
end,
bvna
strongly
urges
you
to
reject
the
map
narrowly
approved
by
the
redistricting
commission,
despite
opposition
from
multiple
neighborhood
associations
and
remand
it
back
to
the
commission,
so
they
can
create
a
council
District
map
that
keeps
the
barber
Valley
intact,
with
Southeast
Boise
the
way
the
current
District
does.
We
feel
that
both
the
neighborhood
and
the
council
person
will
benefit
from
keeping
these
communities
of
interest
in
the
same
Council
District.
Thank
you.
I
Yes,
I
have
one
question
from
Mr,
Stark
and
I.
Guess
I've
heard
this
objection
before
and
I?
Don't
I
guess
I
don't
understand
it
like
if
you
have
a
unified
community
of
interest,
if
that's
the
wrong
word,
but
a
unified
group
of
people
who
have
much
in
common
and
two
Council
people
are
supposed
to
pick
up
the
phone
when
they
call
instead
of
one.
Why
isn't
that
better?.
P
Madame,
mayor
councilman
beigent,
it's
easier
having
the
connection
with
just
the
one
council
member
we
find
currently
that
sometimes
like
you
personally,
have
helped
us
with
an
issue
other
issues
we
have
not
had
as
much
luck
connecting
with
a
council
member
and
we
feel
being
tied
to
one
council.
Member
on
these
issues
is
better
I
understand
the
point
you're
making.
R
Q
I'm
Bailey
from
2000
North
Mountain
Cove
Road
I've,
been
at
a
couple
of
the
public
testimony
meetings,
so
I
I,
just
kind
of
want
to
talk
about
the
process.
A
little
bit
that
I've
witnessed
personally
and
the
with
the
commission
and
my
personal
experience
with
them.
Q
I
I,
initially
came
in
support
of
a
map
that
wasn't
map
11.
and
we
through
deliberation
map
11,
was
presented,
observed
it
went
home,
came
back
and
saw
improvements
to
it.
Q
Right,
like
these
deviations
are
pretty
exceptionally
low,
and
that
was
sort
of
the
challenge
that
many
people
were
posed
with
was
like
okay,
like
if,
if
you're
really
mad
about
this
and
really
up
in
arms
about
this
map,
then
go
make
one
like
it's
it's
available
to
anybody
like
this
is
not
some
closed-door
secretive
thing
like
any
anybody
Under
the
Sun
could
go
out
and
do
it
so
I
mean
I
I
got
behind
map.
11
came
back
to
it
in
the
second
meeting
and
I.
Think
it's
a
phenomenal
map,
given
especially
the
rules.
Q
The
priorities
that
that
were
set
about
in
the
law
and
I
think
the
it's
one
of
those
things
where
there's
going
to
be
six
districts,
it's
a
big
town
and
any
sort
of
anyway
anytime.
You
cut
those
districts
from
a
large
town
like
it.
It's
not
going
to
make
everybody
happy
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
good,
a
good
final
map.
Q
I
think
that
the
commission,
especially
when
they
didn't
just
take
us
at
our
face
value
at
the
end
of
that
second
meeting
or
the
you
know,
the
people
who
you
know
came
to
testify
in
support
of
11,
but
that
I
mean
that's.
My
perspective
is
that
this
is
a
good
place
to
stop
and
with
that
I
mean
I'm
open
to
questions
about
my
my
experience.
What
what
this
map
presents.
B
Q
I
I
followed
politics
just
as
a
teen
Observer
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
I
thought
this
was
an
interesting
thing
and
I
yeah
I'm
an
Enthusiast
of
maps,
great.
S
A
T
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
my
name
is
Patty
Bowen
I
live
at
912
West
Fort
Street,
which
means
I'd
be
in
Council
District,
Five
I'm
in
favor
of
map
11,
because
I
think
it
does
the
great
the
best
job
of
balancing,
keeping
neighborhoods
together
and
precinct
syntact,
which
therefore
means
that
it
does
the
best
job
of
meeting
the
legal
requirements
in
Boise
city
code.
I
had
like
written
out
some
other
things
about
like
why.
T
It's
really
important
that
we
have
this
map
specifically
but
I
kind
of
feel,
like
the
presentation
that
y'all
already
heard
slash
the
information
in
your
packet
says
it
all
like
this
meets
the
legal
requirements
in
the
best
way
and
has
the
least
amount
of
like
breaking
up
of
communities,
and
it
specifically
keeps
precincts
together
which
I'm
a
huge
fan
of,
because
I
think
there
are
already
so
many
barriers
to
going
and
voting
in
local
elections.
T
And
so,
if
you
have
the
same
polling
place,
that's
just
like
so
so
nice,
especially
for
folks
who
have
kids,
who
are
busy
so
just
wanted
to
say.
Please
vote
for
Facebook
to
adopt
a
Boise
districting
map,
11
11,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
on
this
process.
T
This
I
was
able
to
testify
once
before
and
I
just
really
appreciate
how
open
and
like
convenient
a
lot
of
this
has
been
for
folks
and
being
able
to
testify
online,
so
yeah
I
feel,
like
the
commission,
did
a
really
great
job
of
making
it
open
to
folks
and
allowing
people
to
submit
their
stuff.
So
thank
you.
L
U
Hello,
Barrett
I'm,
sorry,
hello,
Barrett,
tetlo1331,
South,
Watermark
and
for
years,
I
used
to
live
also
at
Fairview
in
Cloverdale
across
from
the
cemetery.
So
that's
my
neighborhood,
the
West
Boise
neighborhood
and
I'm
here
to
speak
from
a
lot
of
you're
gonna,
hear
from
a
lot
of
us
from
Western
Boise
in
opposition.
We
showed
up
at
the
hearing
on
the
November,
2nd
I
think
it
was
presented.
U
A
map
presented
three
actually
three
maps
map
17,
18
and
19.,
because
the
map
11
divides
almost
every
single
neighborhood
in
Western
Boise
map
19
does
probably
the
best
job
of
keeping
the
neighborhoods
together,
as
well
as
also
being
compact
map
20,
which
not
is
not
a
perfect
map,
which
the
commission
two
Commissioners
voted
for
as
well,
would
also
be
a
better
map
and
Community
keeping
communities
of
Interest
together
and
that's
an
important
requirement.
U
Communities
of
interest
is
one
of
the
things
you're
are
supposed
to
keep
together
as
well
as
population
deviation,
as
other
factors
too,
as
well.
The
other
legal
requirement
that
I
think
you
should
remain
this
back
to
the
commission
to
do
some
more
work.
It's
not
about
it
is,
is
the
compactness
and
compactness
is
a
legal
standard
and
your
City
attorney
can
explain
it
and
that's
a
reason
for
compactness
is
compactness
is
important.
Judge
of
whether
or
not
something
is
gerrymandered.
When
you
look
at
map
you
look
at
the
map,
you
look
at
district
one.
U
It
goes
all
the
way
from
Chinden
and
Eagle
all
the
way
down
to
Victory
Road.
You
look
at
map
three
which
goes
from
you
know
from
Five
Mile,
all
the
way
to
downtown
they're,
not
compact.
You
can
just
see
it
with
your
own
eyes,
there's
very
little
in
common
sort
of
Northwest
Boise
at
Eagle
and
they
think
of
the
neighborhoods
at
Eagle
and
shinden
and
those
areas
Centennial
neighborhood
and
you
think
of
all
the
way
down
below
what
do
they
have
in
common
very
little
so
they're,
not
a
comp.
U
They
don't
meet
the
legal
requirement
of
compactness
as
well
as
also
they're,
not
communities
of
Interest
as
well
going
forward.
So
I
ask
you
to
remand
this
back
to
the
commission
and
they
can
redraw
look
at
map
night
map,
17
map,
18
map
19
and
map
20,
and
go
forward
over
with
it.
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
one
other
problem
that
we
encountered
while
working
with
the
software.
It's
great
that
you
had
an
aptitude
and
that's
the
Microsoft
Office
of
this
entire
process,
and
it
was
wonderful.
U
It
was
available
to
the
public,
but
the
mapitude
software
only
does
not
allow
you
to
to
break
a
census
block
right.
The
census
block
is
the
smallest
unit
and
you
cannot
break
a
census
block,
but
the
legal
requirements
is
you've
got
to
use
Precinct
clients.
What
happens
when
the
Ada
County
Clerk's
Office
breaks
a
census
Block
in
drawing
a
Precinct
Line.
It
is
impossible
for
anyone
in
the
public
and
the
public
was
set
up
to
fail.
U
Commissioner,
at
least
the
public
software
commissioner
Spiker
was
able
to
go
in
to
map
Aid
and
modify
it
ever
so
slightly
to
be
to
use
Precinct
lines,
because,
on
the
back
end,
you
can
use
Precinct
lines
that
you
can
cut
the
the
census
block,
but
members
of
the
public,
nobody
could
draw
a
map
using
no
Precinct
blocks,
no
Precinct
lines,
because
the
software
doesn't
allow
you
to
cut
the
census
line.
Look
and
look
at
precinct
1506
as
a.
B
Good
time
so,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Now,
I
don't
have
anybody
else
signed
up
so
come
on
up
and
then
oh
wait.
You
were
signed
up
on
a
sheet.
Oh
I
crossed
you
out
without
calling
you
I'm
gonna
have
Dave
Kangas
come
first
and
then
you
head
on
up
and
then
who
else.
V
Madame
mayor
city
council,
my
name
is
Dave
Kangas
and
I
reside
at
1715,
West,
Canal,
Street,
and
tonight
I
am
speaking
to
you
on
behalf
of
Boise
working
together,
whose
board
has
voted
to
oppose
the
current
District
mapping
plan.
We
feel
that
currently
district
one
really
focuses
and
shifts
the
Republican
vote
to
the
West
edge
of
Boise.
We
all
know
that
the
further
out
you
get
from
Boise
the
more
Republican
you're
voting
gets.
This
was
not
the
fault
of
the
commission.
V
She
originally
created
a
map
14
that
really
didn't
meet
the
precinct
splits
Etc,
but
commissioner
Spiker
was
able
to
go
into
aptitude
and
tweak
it
so
that
no
no
precincts
were
split,
limited
number
of
neighborhood
associations
and
had
a
low
property
population
variants
map.
11
might
have
been
a
little
bit
better
in
the
numbers,
but
considering
the
testimony
that
was
heard
at
the
last
public
hearing,
you
really
had
a
strong
opposition
for
current
map
11
and
support
of
something
different
that
set
up
West
Boise
differently.
I
also
wish
to
comment
on
the
process.
V
V
The
deadline
for
aptitude
to
submit
your
Maps
was
not
published
anywhere.
The
only
way
you
knew
about
it
was
to
have
watched
the
video
of
the
meeting
before
it
wasn't
printed
in
the
minutes
it
wasn't
published
on
the
website.
It
wasn't
released
to
the
public
that
you
had
a
deadline
to
get
to
I
had
two
or
three
people
that
I
worked
with
that
were
trying
to
create
maps
at
the
last
minute
before
the
public
meeting,
but
aptitude
was
shut
down,
so
they
could
not
be
created.
V
There
wasn't
any
evidence
you
didn't
know
there
was
any
Maps
presented
to
review
or
study
at
the
last
public
meeting.
There
was
a
healthy
debate
between
commissioner
Peters
and
chairman
love
between
the
difference
in
maps.
In
that
debate,
chairman
loves
stance
on
promoting
District
11,
really
made
no
sense
or
map
11
really
made
no
sense.
It
just
didn't
make
sense.
Dave.
B
You're
at
time,
I
do
have
a
request,
though
you
know
I
mean
this
was
the
first
commission
that
we've
had
to
do
this,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
learning
from
it
too.
So
I
see
that
your
notes
are
longer.
Will
you
make
sure
that
we
have
those,
because
Hannah's
collecting
and
all
like
information
on
to
leave
as
a
for
as
a
file
for
the
folks
that
come
10
years
after
us
to
get
some
of
these
things
better
next
time
around?
B
Of
course,
they'll
have
to
figure
it
out,
because
so
no
comment
required
because
you're
out
of
time
but
I
would
like
I
would
like
that
to
go
into
the
record,
as
as
we
just
seek
to
compile
history
for
those
10
years
from
now,
that'll
be
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
this
again.
Thank
you,
foreign.
W
Good
evening,
honorable
mayor
and
council
members,
my
name
is
David
King
and
I'm,
with
the
South
Cole
neighborhood
association,
cellco
Alliance,
neighborhood
association,
I
reside
at
one
zero,
zero,
Smoke,
Ranch,
Road
Boise
Idaho
I
urge
the
council
to
reject
map
11
and
remand
with
instructions
to
draw
a
map
that
will
honor
the
neighborhoods
in
West
Boise
the
same
way
that
it
does
on
the
other
side
of
town.
W
If
you
look
at
the
first
visual
there,
map
marked
map
11.,
your
eyes
aren't
deceiving
you
it's
carves
up
with
the
west
side
of
Boise
and
all
these
neighborhood
associations,
and
that
it
doesn't
have
that
same
problem
on
the
other
side
of
town.
The
neighborhood
associations
are
communities
of
Interest,
they're
compact
areas
and
they're
deeply
ingrained
in
the
city's
development
and
permitting
process
so
that
they
really
can't
be
ignored.
W
And
if
you
look
at,
for
example,
West
Boise,
it's
divided
into
three
council
districts
and
then
the
people
who
are
in
West
Boise
and
within
those
council
districts,
they're
deluded
with
the
rest
of
the
population
among
that
District.
So
they
honestly
don't
have
any
representation
on
the
council.
There's
not
three
council
members
that
are
going
to
truly
be
responsive
to
them,
because
the
majority
of
their
constituents
are
going
to
live
outside
of
West
Boise.
W
If
you
look
on
the
map,
West
Valley,
west
Boise,
Southwest,
Ada,
County,
Alliance,
South
Coal,
all
of
these
are
divided
and
again
it's
only
on
this
side
of
town,
so
I
haven't
truly
heard
any
good
reason
to
divide
all
the
neighborhood
associations
in
West
Boise.
The
way
that
this
is
done
other
than
to
draw
this
irregular
map
that
district
one
within
map
11.
map
I
mean
the
district
one
on
map
11
is
an
irregular
shape.
W
It's
not
a
a
compact
shape
and
it
will
not
be
a
competitive
district
and
because
it
will
not
be
a
competitive
District.
It
reduces
the
level
of
political
competition
in
all
the
other
districts,
and
especially
the
adjoining
ones.
In
2021,
there
were
three
Council
District
races
in
Boise
and
the
average
margin
of
victory
was
24.6
in
Meridian.
There
were
also
three
Council
District
races
and
the
average
margin
of
victory
was
7.6.
W
So
less
than
a
third
of
the
margin
of
victory
in
Boise
districts,
competitiveness
districts
make
for
better
representative
government
of
the
people
of
Boise,
and
that
should
be
an
interest
that
we
all
have
you'll
create
a
legacy
with
this
map.
This
is
a
legacy
going
forward.
They
can
only
do
a
better
job
for
West
Boise
map.
20
does
a
far
better
job
for
the
dark
part
of
town.
Thank.
H
You
yes,
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
in
the
last
election
Boise
had
elections
by
District
Meridian
was
still
doing
council
member
elections
at
large.
They.
X
Yeah
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear.
You
made
quite
a
few
different
points
when
you
were
talking
I,
think
one
of
the
first
ones
that
you
made.
This
is
why
I'm
looking
for
clarification
is
that
you
feel
like
the
neighborhood
associations,
are
divided
more
in
West
Boise
than
other
areas
of
town,
or
did
he
say
neighborhoods,
because
those
are
two
different
things
right
right,
like
sometimes
a
neighborhood
association
doesn't
follow
what
feels
like
a
neighborhood
boundary.
So
are
you
referring
to
neighborhoods
I'm.
X
B
Will
you
please
sign
in
on
that
sheet
and
then
sir
come
on
up
and
then
I'll
ask
you
to
do
the
same
and
let's
see
right
and
but
did
somebody
else
testify
that
I
didn't
call
up
already?
If
you
testify
and
I
hadn't
called
you
from
the
sheet,
will
you
just
before
you
head
home,
come
put
your
name
and
address
on
here
I
think
I've
got
everybody
but
welcome
sir
hi.
E
My
name
is
Madame
mayor
and
city
council.
My
name
is
Dale
Heintz
and
I
reside
at
11678
West
Silver
City
Street.
This
is
the
first
meeting
that
I
attended.
E
I
I
heard
that
you
were
voting
on
this
redistricting
I
looked
at
the
map,
I
was
going
to
attend
the
last
meeting,
but
I
was
under
I
was
told
that
you
weren't,
allowing
any
testimonies.
Is
that
correct
to
assume.
E
I'm
gonna
make
this
really
quick.
I
disagree
with
that
map
11.
I've
lived,
I
was
the
vice
president
of
my
homeowners
association
years
ago.
Several
years
ago,
I've
lived
in
that
same
house
for
22
years
and
I.
Look
at
the
West
Boise
the
district
one,
the
green
portion
going
all
the
way
up
to
from
China
to
Victory.
E
That
map
needs
to
meet
needs
to
go
out
into
the
other
neighborhoods
I
agree
with
the
last
gentleman
Mr
tetlo
you're,
dividing
up
the
the
neighborhoods
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
fair
to
the
people
that
live
in
West
Boise
we've
always
felt
like
you
know,
we
didn't
get
a
lot
of
attention
compared
to
the
other
parts
of
Boise.
B
Sir,
we're
taking
your
testimony
rather
than
answering
questions.
Okay,.
U
Y
Welcome
welcome
Madame,
mayor
and
council
members
good
evening
I'm
going
to
just
talk
as
fast
as
I
can
to
get
all
my
words
in
my
name
is
Mary
collister
I
live
at
5670
Kirk
Cliff
Court,
Boise,
Idaho
83704
I've
lived
in
my
home
since
October
2021,
not
2021.
Y
Y
2001.
sorry
I've
always
lived
in
Idaho
I'm
involved
in
my
service
in
my
church
service
and
friendships
in
my
neighborhood
and
for
work.
I,
clean
houses
in
the
Treasure
Valley,
I
drive,
Uber
and
I
do
doTerra
essential
oils.
That
is
what
I
do
as
an
entrepreneur
I'm
in
a
dinner
group
in
my
neighborhood
I'm
in
a
book
club
in
my
neighborhood
I'm,
actively
helping
others
who
are
sick
and
taking
gifts
and
cards
to
those
who
have
a
birthday
I'm.
Y
A
Boise
native,
my
parents
raised
12
kids
in
the
Boise
school
district,
I
graduated
from
Boise
State
with
a
teaching
degree.
As
a
single
mother
with
four
children,
my
parents
were
Hands-On
parents
raising
us.
We
lived
in
our
home
on
Hawaii
Street
for
42
years.
Every
one
of
our
everyone
in
our
area
of
influence
knew
our
house
as
the
Callister
home.
All
12
of
us
are
upstanding
citizens.
All
of
us
contribute
to
the
betterment
of
this
community
and
now
other
communities
where
my
siblings
live.
Six
of
us
live
in
the
Treasure
Valley.
Y
More
than
half
of
us
have
earned
college
degrees.
More
than
half
of
us
play
or
have
played
a
musical
instrument.
All
of
us
are
free
from
tobacco,
alcohol
and
drugs.
None
of
us
have
ever
stayed
one
night
in
jail
or
in
prison,
while
living
in
Boise,
my
kids
were
sent
to
Meridian
schools
Ustick,
then,
ships,
seven
and
a
half
miles
to
Lake
Hazel,
instead
of
two
miles
to
Lowell,
Scott
and
then
on
to
Centennial.
Y
I,
wasn't
happy
about
them,
going
to
Meridian
schools
when
I
lived
in
Boise,
but
I
checked
in
them,
often
at
their
schools
and
then
Middle,
School
and
High
School
level.
The
district
restricted
parents
from
visiting
their
own
children
in
the
classrooms.
Many
district
lines
for
Boise
and
Meridian
were
drawn
for
neighborhoods
schools
and
churches,
as
Boise
grew
into
Meridian,
as
a
Boise
native
I
feel
I'm
well
qualified
to
represent
my
neighborhood
and
my
city.
This
is
my
city.
This
is
your
city.
Y
This
city
belongs
to
all
of
us
and
it
needs
to
represent
all
of
our
interests.
I
urge
the
city,
council
and
the
mayor
to
reject
map
11
return
it
back
to
the
commission.
Unfortunately,
the
current
map,
before
you
map
11
splits,
my
community
and
my
neighborhood.
It
also
combines
communities
that
are
miles
apart.
Y
Instead
of
using
natural
geographic
boundaries,
it
divides
existing
areas
in
communities
instead
of
uniting
them
map
11
makes
it
virtually
impossible
for
a
council
member
to
represent
the
interests
of
these
districts
effectively
from
Lake
Hazel
to
Chinden
is
a
large
area
to
cover
stop
there.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
Z
Z
So,
as
you
heard
today,
we
heard
a
lot
of
different
opinions
about
the
map,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
kind
of
how
the
commission
really
landed
on
its
process,
which
was
really
following
both
the
U.S
Constitution,
the
state
code
and,
of
course,
the
policy
set
by
this
Council,
which
is
that
the
legal
requirements
were
that
we
keep
precincts
whole
that
we
keep
communities
of
Interest
together
to
the
best
extent
possible
and
that
we
don't,
you
know,
divide
neighborhoods.
Z
Z
But
ultimately,
when
it
came
came
down
to
the
vote,
we
really
had
to
look
at
both
the
law,
the
Constitution
and
the
policies
that
you
set
forth
for
the
commission
and
ultimately,
map
11
came
down
to
the
lowest
population
deviation
and
it
did
split,
neighborhood
associations
less
than
map
20..
So
we
heard
lots
of
process
critiques
about
mapitude
and
all
that
and
I
think
that
is
absolutely
relevant
for
you
all
in
the
next
essential
census.
When,
hopefully,
none
of
I
will
not
have
to
serve
again
because
it
was
a
very
difficult
process.
Z
But
I
can
also
tell
you
that
we
did
receive
an
overwhelming
support
for
map
11
as
well.
It's
not
something
that
you
heard
tonight
and
it's
not
something
that
you
may
have
seen
in
the
video,
but
the
overwhelming
public.
Testimony
and
written
comments
were
in
favor
of
map
11,
which
is
why
the
commission
really
ultimately
landed
on
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
provide
context
on
behalf
of
the
commission.
It
was
not
a
perfect
process,
but
we
did
the
best
we
could
and
we
believed
that
we
gave
you
the
most
legally
viable
map.
Z
B
I
hope
that
you're
not
saying
you
don't
have
to
do
it
again,
because
it
was
miserable,
I,
think
I
I'm
going
to
be
positive
and
imagine
it's
because
it
was
so
much
work
and
I
really
do
for
all
of
our
commissions.
It's
a
lot
of
work
that
our
residents
put
in,
but
this
one
in
particular
because
it
was
short-lived
with
a
lot
of
work
and
high
expectations,
and
the
group
of
you
together
created
our
cities.
You
know
really
the
the
city's
first
commission-led
map,
so
I
really
appreciate
the
dedication
of
everybody.
X
Yes,
I
did
have
a
quick
question.
First,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
involved.
You
don't
get
a
paycheck,
you
don't
get
any
of
these.
You
know
some
of
the
things
that
we
even
get
on
Council,
so
it
it
is
important
that
our
community
Step
Up
members,
step
up
and
I
really
appreciate
you
and
the
other
Commissioners
doing
that.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
understood
one
of
the
things
that
you
were
saying
earlier.
X
You
were
saying
that,
yes,
there
are
some
neighborhoods
that
are
split
up
and
the
commission
found
it
more
difficult
in
any
neighborhood
associations
that
were
larger
neighborhoods
to
not
split
them
up,
so
those
were
some
of
the
ones
in
West
Boise
that
are
significantly
larger
than
like
the
the
what's,
the
small
one
or
smallest
one,
the
is
it
West,
Village
or.
X
Z
I
Thank
you,
Madam
mayor
I've,
drawn
a
lot
of
these
Maps.
It's
really
hard
if
you
want
to
follow
the
the
law,
the
state
law
and
the
city
law,
and
then
this
process,
for
whatever
reason,
brings
out
a
lot
of
emotions
and
we're
all
aware
of
that
and
I
just
want
to.
I
B
K
Hannah
we've
heard
a
lot
from
neighborhoods
and
the
desire
to
keep
communities
of
Interest
together
and
I
know
that
that
was
secondary
to
precincts.
Did
the
city
send
out
any
notification
to
the
neighborhood
associations
about
the
draft
map
and
did
you
get
any
additional
feedback
from
the
from
that
proposed
communication?
Madame.
M
Mayor
and
council
members,
yes,
the
neighborhood
associations
had
an
information
about
both
the
process
and
map
submissions
and,
in
fact,
neighborhood
associations
did
attend.
Hearings,
I,
don't
off
the
top.
My
head,
remember:
you
know
the
full
list
of
neighborhood
associations,
but
many
of
them
did
attend
hello.
K
M
Madame,
mayor
and
councilmember
Willits
I,
don't
know
off
the
top
of
my
head.
If,
once
this
map
was
selected,
if
there
was
an
additional
email
or
or
communication
to
the
neighborhood
associations,
it
was
published
as
the
map
that
the
commission
selected
it
was
posted
before
before
the
hearing.
There
was
a
requirement
how
long
it
had
to
be
posted
before
the
hearing
and
that
was
complied
with,
and
it
was
presented
in
at
multiple
hearings.
L
F
Actually
I
do
have
one
last
question:
the
original
districts
also
split
neighborhoods.
Did
you
ever
compare
how
many
neighborhoods
were
split
by
in
those
districts
versus
in
this
one,
Madam.
M
Mayor
council,
president
I,
we
didn't
the
commission
didn't
I'm,
not
sure
if
staff
did
but
I
think
one
of
the
important
things
to
remember
is
that
that
map
was
drawn
off
the
2010
census.
So
while
we
could
do
some
comparison
and
I
think
there
was
some
testimony
earlier
that
that
one
was
better.
Those
are
those
are
out
of
date
numbers,
so
they
did
need
to
use
the
2020s.
H
Mayor
I
am
prepared
to
make
a
motion
and
would
like
to
offer
some
comments
after
that,
if
that's
okay,
I
normally
I,
would
just
do
this
as
frustrating,
but
I
think
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
instead
to
send
ORD
56-22
to
First
reading
for
next
week.
I
H
H
We
really
tried
to
hammer
out
the
details
to
make
it
a
fair
process,
an
open
process
and
a
process
by
which
we
passed
the
ordinance,
and
then
we
were
completely
hands
off
from
the
entire
thing,
which
I
think
was
really
important
because
we
didn't
want
to
have
any
influence
over
the
process
at
all.
You
know
there
were
a
few
disagreements
during
that
ordinance
development
process
about.
Do
we
protect
incumbency?
We
ultimately
decided.
No,
do
we
want
to
require
that
the
map
be
based
on
the
current
map
and
we
ultimately
decided?
H
No,
that
we
would
give
the
commission
the
latitude
to
develop
a
map
from
scratch
and
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
the
Commissioners,
because
I
know
it
was
a
huge
undertaking
and
it
was
such
a
condensed
amount
of
time.
You
heard
from
a
lot
of
people.
I
know,
that's
not
always
fun,
we
do
it
every
single
week
up
here,
you
don't
get
paid
for
it.
H
As
council
member
Hallie
Burton
pointed
out,
but
I
mean
just
a
huge
community
service
and
one
that
I
think
I
mean
I've
always
wanted
to
be
a
districting
commissioner,
like
at
the
state
level,
because
I
think
that
it's
such
a
fascinating
process
and
I
know
there
are
very
few
people
Hannah's
laughing
at
me
right
now.
Who
would
say
that
they
want
to
do
that?
But
I
do
love
the
process
of
districting
and
I.
Think
it
is
away.
H
I
mean
I've,
always
thought
that
Idaho
did
it
right
and
so
I
wanted
our
process
to
really
mirror
the
way
that
Idaho
does
it,
because
I
think
that
they
do
do
it
right.
They
have
an
odd
number
of
Commissioners
so
that
there
can't
be
a
tie.
You
have
to
have
a
map
where
a
majority
of
Commissioners
agree
and
I
think
that
that's
really
important
so
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
who
is
part
of
the
process
who
submitted
Maps,
who
dealt
with
magnitude
which
it
sounds
like
was
not
perfect.
H
Who
came
out
to
testify,
and
especially
our
commissioners
who
were
just
diligent
public
servants
throughout
and
our
staff
who
hurted
everyone
who
made
sure
that
you
know
software
was
working
right,
that
Maps
were
being
developed
that
were
compliant
and
all
the
other
work
that
went
into
it.
So
I'm
very
excited
that
we
have
a
map.
It
meets
all
the
legal
requirements
that
we
set
forth
to
the
best
extent
that
it
possibly
can
I
know,
sir,
that
you
do
not
agree
with
me
and
that's
okay,
that
is
okay.
H
After
the
state
districting
process,
there
are
always
Myriad
people
who
don't
agree
that
it
was
the
best
map
and
it's
just
something-
we've
been
doing
after
every
single
census,
for
you
know,
decades
and
decades
and
I,
don't
think
that
that
will
ever
change
so
because
this
map
is
legally
compliant
because
it
most
closely
mirrors
the
legal
requirements
that
we
set
forth
I'm
in
favor
of
the
adoption
of
this
map.
I
You
want
me
too
I'm
in
favor
of
the
adoption
of
this
map.
It's
no
secret
that
I
don't
think.
Districts
are
great
in
the
first
place,
but
that
ship
has
sailed,
and
you
know
our
job
here
is
to
look
at
the
proposed
map
and
determine
whether
it's
legally
sufficient
and
that's
it.
We
can't
really
that
we
can't
really
do
much
more
than
that,
and
the
reason
that
it's
set
up
that
way
is
so
that
we
can't
then
go
in
and
start
monkeying
with
a
map.
I
So
it's
kind
of
a
sword
with
two
sides.
Nobody
up
here
has
the
power
to
go
in
and
take
a
legally
sufficient
map
and
make
it.
You
know
you
know
better
from
our
personal
perspective
and
that
decision
as
council
member
woodings
just
said,
was
very
deliberate
to
try
to
keep
us
as
removed
from
the
process
as
possible.
I
With
that
said,
I've
played
around
in
that
software
a
lot
and
I
think
others
of
us
has
it's
really
really
difficult
to
create
a
map
that
honors
the
precinct
boundaries
that
keeps
the
population
differences
to
a
close
minimum?
You
know
he
would
to
a
close
range
and
that
doesn't
do
something
very
bizarre
with
a
shoestring,
District
or
breaking
a
district
into
two
parts
across
the
river
or
something
along
those
lines.
So,
in
addition
to
believing
that
this
map
is
legally
sufficient,
I'm
also
pretty
impressed
with
it
and
I
said
it
a
moment
ago.
I
But
I
really
am
impressed
with
and
grateful
with
grateful
for
the
work
that
the
commission
did.
So
that's
why
I
seconded
the
motion
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
voting
in
favor
of
this
of
this
plan,
Vladimir.
X
I'll
also
be
voting
in
favor
of
the
plan.
I
do
want
to
recognize
the
concerns
that
some
of
the
folks
had,
especially
some
of
the
folks
from
West
Boise,
because
I
totally
get
it.
The
first
thing
that
I
saw
when
I
looked
at
the
map
was
and
I
don't
live
here,
but
it
would
be
in
the
district
that
I'm
currently
in
is.
X
Why
is
the
North
End
neighborhood
association
split
in
half
like
it
seems
like
it
could
have
been
a
little
bit
further
over
here
or
why
is
the
lust
District,
not
in
the
same
district
as
Boise
State
University,
and
when
you
live
in
those
areas?
You
see
those
nuances,
but
what
I
also
know
is
that
the
difference
between
the
lust
district
and
the
kids
who
go
to
Whitney
Elementary
School,
is
a
vastly
different
neighborhood
with
vastly
different
different
needs
and
there's
concern
that
a
council
member
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
represent
those
needs.
X
I
think
that
most
people
here
didn't
run
for
Council
to
represent
one
small
areas,
needs
and
I
hope,
and
my
original
Hope
was
that,
no
matter
how
these
districts
were
drawn,
that
that
didn't
change
that
we're
elected
to
make
the
best
decisions
on
behalf
of
the
entire
city
and
I
also
understand
the
need
to
know
the
nuances
of
each
of
all
the
neighborhoods
that
are
there
so
I
I
understand
the
different
ends.
X
There's
a
lot
of
tiny
lines
that,
like
that
I
could
maybe
draw
and
say
like
this,
would
make
a
little
more
sense
here.
This
would
make
a
little
bit
more
sense
here,
but
I
have
faith
that
the
commission
went
through.
That
process
did
the
best
that
they
could
and
even
some
of
the
ones
that
I
wanted
to
draw.
Once
you
started
looking
at
the
election
precincts
that
wouldn't
have
worked,
and
so
once
you
get
in
there
and
you
start
messing
around,
it
really
is
a
challenging
and
onerous
process.
X
It's
great
to
see
people
get
involved
in
the
process
like
I
said
I'll,
be
voting
in
favor
of
this
I
think
that
the
work
continues,
because,
while
there's
a
really
great
engaged
amount
of
people
here
in
this
room,
right
now,
I
think
that
there's
probably
75
percent
of
our
community.
X
That's
going
to
start
paying
attention
to
the
next
city,
council,
races
in
mid-september
or
October
of
next
year
and
for
the
first
time,
find
out
that
they're
not
going
to
be
voting
for
six
people
or
that
they're
now
in
a
different
district,
and
that's
just
the
way
those
things
work.
People
have
so
many
things
going
on.
So
the
work
is
not
done
in
getting
this
message
out
there
and
I
guess
I
would
say
for
any
current
or
future
city
council.
F
Had
a
mirror
thank
you,
I
will
vote
in
favor
of
moving
this
forward
to
reading
it's
not
a
vote
to
approve
it.
It
is
about
to
move
it
forward.
The
reason
is
that
it
does
meet
the
criteria.
That
is
our
standard
of
review.
F
And
importantly,
the
concerns
I've
heard
tonight
are
all
based
on
the
idea
that
this
city
council
will
now
represent
particular
interests
in
the
city
of
Boise.
Instead
of
in
representing
the
city
of
Boise
and
the
interests
of
all
of
the
people
in
the
city
of
Boise,
that's
been
my
concern
all
along
with
the
move,
two
districts
that
we
become
a
city
divided
rather
than
a
city,
United
and
I've,
served
on
this
Council
for
a
very
long
time.
F
F
If
that
happens,
because
of
this
change
in
our
law,
it
will
hurt
this
city
for
the
worst,
and
so,
while
I
might
have
done
something
different
personally,
if
I'd
been
drawing
this
map,
I
by
council
member
of
agent
played
around
and
there's
lots
of
different
ways
to
do
it.
What's
important
to
me
is
that
it
is
balanced
by
population.
It
doesn't
split
precincts,
it
tries
to
the
extent
it
could
to
keep
communities
together
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
all
of
these
districts
represent
the
people
of
Boise.
N
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
Like
councilman
Bajan
said
the
ship
has
sailed
when
it
comes
to
districts,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
to
highlight
how
districts
how
this
new
districting
system
affects
the
ability
for
for
people
from
different
segments
of
our
society
to
participate.
N
As
you
may
know,
I'm
the
only
renter
on
the
Boise
city,
council
and
I
was
notified
the
day
after
Thanksgiving
that
my
my
lease
will
not
be
renewed
at
the
home
where
I
have
lived
for
10
years
and
so
I
I
wrote
an
email
to
the
Ada
County
elections
office
just
to
find
out
what
I
need
to
do
to
make
sure
I
stay
in
compliance
to
continue
to
serve
out
my
term
that
I
currently
have
with
the
city
council,
and
so
if
we
did
not
have
this
District
system,
I
could
look
for
affordable
housing
in
any
part
of
the
city
limits
of
Boise.
N
So
I
just
share
that,
because
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
you
know.
With
this
districting
system,
the
the
the
big
driver
has
been
about
geographic
representation,
and
that
certainly
is
one
Element.
But
when
we
had
an
at-large
system,
anybody
who
felt
the
call
like
I
did,
like
all
the
members
of
this
council
did,
who
felt
called
to
run
for
a
seat
on
the
city.
Council
were
able
to
do
so.
Anybody,
and
now
the
onus
is
to
find
affordable
housing
in
what
was
what
is,
at
this
moment,
District
3
and
will
become
District
Six.
N
My
concern
is
this:
this
District
system
is
going
to
limit,
who
can
be
a
part
of
this
process.
Moving
forward.
N
Certainly
I
think
it's
great
that
folks
are
going
to
have
geographic
representation
when
folks
from
those
different,
those
six
different
areas
are
called
My,
Hope
Is
that
we
will
also
have
folks
from
diverse
backgrounds,
folks,
who
aren't
necessarily
Property
Owners,
but
this
is
a
good
example
of
how
this
District's
districting
system
can
limit
someone's
ability
to
serve
I'm
fortunate
I
have
somebody
who
lives
within
my
district
who
has
offered
me
housing.
N
N
N
So,
despite
all
that,
I
appreciate
the
efforts
of
the
districting
commission,
I
know
it
is
a
thankless
job,
but
I
watched
the
YouTube
videos
and
was
really
grateful
for
the
seriousness
that
folks
brought
to
the
work
and
I
do
wish.
The
the
system
had
worked
better
for
the
public
I
I.
Don't
think
that
the
public
feels
like
they
can
trust
us
when
they
run
into
those
barriers,
so
hopefully
the
next
time
we
do
this.
N
K
Mayor
thanks
for
the
folks
who
came
and
testified
tonight,
you
know
this
is
this
is
an
emotional
issue,
because
it's
where
we
live
and
the
Heart
of
our
democracy
is
who
represents
us?
It's
it's
the
people
that
go
to
the
grocery
store
that
you
know
have
kids
in
similar
schools
who
you
know
Drive
our
streets
and
to
attend
our
libraries.
So
it's
it's
a
very
emotional
issue
for
a
lot
of
us,
because
it's
the
heart
of
where
we've
chosen
to
live
in
the
city.
K
I
think
obviously
I
had
some
concerns
with
the
with
the
ordinance
and
and
some
of
the
criteria
for
choosing
the
Commissioners.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
mayor
chose
the
Commissioners
we
approved
them
and
then
to
council
member
woodings
comment.
We
were
hands
off.
That's
probably
why
you
saw
us
ask
so
many
questions,
because
we
weren't
in
on
this.
We
anything
that
we
saw
was
anything
that
the
public
saw.
K
So
you
know
I,
think
about
this
and
I
hear
a
lot
of
people
from
West
Boise
who
who
are
concerned
about
the
map
and
I,
understand
that
because
I'm,
not
a
commissioner,
but
the
map
that
I
see
I,
don't
think
represents
West
Boise
in
a
lot
of
ways.
I
mean
I.
Would
if
I
were
drawing
the
map
but
I'm,
not
I,
wouldn't
have
it
go
across
the
freeway
I
think
the
freeway
is
a
natural
line
in
West
Boise,
but
that's
irrelevant,
because
that
wasn't
my
job.
K
You
know
I've,
given
a
lot
of
thought
about
this,
when
people
were
were
testifying,
because
if
we
remanded
it
back
to
the
commission,
what
what
would
change-
and
it
seems
like
they've-
had
this
debate
already
and
it
was
a
really
tight
vote.
So
my
concern
is,
if
we
remanded,
because
we
don't
feel
like
there's
adequate
representation.
K
Is
that
going
to
really
change
a
vote?
Or
is
it
just
going
to
come
back
so
I've
really
struggled
with
this
and
what
to
do
because
it
does
carve
up
West
Boyce
in
a
way
that
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me,
but
I
don't
think
we
want
city
council
people
changing
boundaries
up
here,
that's
just
it's
that
is
too
cozy
and
not
what
our
democracy
needs.
K
So
I'm
going
to
choose
to
vote
to
send
this
to
First
reading.
It's
a
map
that,
like
I,
said
I
wouldn't
have
chosen,
but
the
legal
requirements
are
such
that
I
think
we
need
to
uphold
what
the
legal
requirements
were
and
it
was
precincts.
First
Neighborhood.
Second,
if
it
was
neighborhoods
first
pre-seek
seconds,
we
would
have
seen
a
different
map,
but
that
wasn't
the
legal
requirement.
H
I
was
made
aware
thank
you,
staff
that
we're
actually
running
up
against
the
calendar
year
in
the
final
adoption
of
this
ordinance.
So
I
would
just
like
to
modify
my
motion
that
ORD
56-22
be
read
by
number
and
title
only
and
filed
for
the
second
reading
calendar.
It.
B
And
so
just
to
clarify
what
that
does
is
because
the
council
president,
you
mentioned
in
your
comments,
that
you
weren't
voting
to
approve
it
tonight.
You
still
aren't
voting
to
approve
it
tonight,
but,
as
is
typical,
when
we
have
an
a
public
hearing
related
to
an
ordinance
which
is
rare,
it
can
advance
to
First
reading
tonight.
But
then
we
still
next
week's
second
reading
and
then
the
week
after
that
third
reading,
and
then
we
all
break
for
the
holidays.
B
All
right
clerk,
oh
I,
should
say
before
the
vote.
I'm
not
voting
on
this
I
appreciate
the
discussion
tonight
from
everybody
and
the
public
testimony
not
just
tonight
but
throughout,
and
the
amount
of
people
that
send
in
comments
and
submitted
Maps
that
really
like
it
actively
participated
in
our
democracy.
I
mean
this
is
it's.
It's
just
I
just
think
it's
a
really
special
thing
and
so
appreciate
all
the
work
and
honestly
how
seriously
our
council
members
took
it
I'm,
given
that
it
does
have.
B
It
has
implications
for
many
of
the
people
up
here
and
you
all
stayed
true
to
the
commitment
we
made
that
we
weren't
going
to
be
involved
in
it,
and
that
shows
with
the
maps
and
the
comments
tonight
and
I
appreciate
that
too.
So
with
that
clerk,
you
call
the
roll
well.
X
D
X
D
Sanchez,
yes,
all
in
favor
motion
carries
rd-56-22
an
ordinance
adopting
the
Boise
districting
plan,
providing
a
copy
of
the
plan
which
includes
a
map
of
the
Boise
City,
Council
seat
districts
and
respective
boundaries,
providing
a
copy
of
the
Boise
districting.
Commissioner
staff
report,
which
details
the
process
and
procedure
used
to
create
and
certify
the
Boise
districting
plan
and
providing
an
effective
date.
Foreign.
B
Okay,
so
that's
that
for
that
one
typically,
we
take
an
action
after
reading.
Thank
you
we're
going
we're
going
to
take
a
10
minute
break
before
we
I
think
we've
just
got
one
more
item
on
the
oh,
it's
two
items
on
the
agenda:
well,
we'll
take
a
10
minute
break
and
then
we'll
move
into
the
next
one.
AA
L
AB
B
AB
AB
The
site
above
its
Boise
city
limits
to
the
north
and
Southwest,
and
the
cost
of
extending
city
services
to
the
development
are
anticipated
to
be
minimal.
The
proposed
r1c
zone
is
compatible
with
the
site.
Suburban
land
use,
designation
and
the
proposed
density
of
approximately
4.5
units
per
acre
is
consistent
with
the
existing
subdivisions
to
the
west
and
south
one
public
street
is
proposed.
It
will
extend
south
from
Victory
Road
connect
to
Jupiter
Avenue
to
the
west
and
sub
to
the
east
in
two
locations
to
provide
future
opportunities
for
connectivity.
AB
Curb
Gutter
and
detached
sidewalks
with
Street
trees
are
proposed
along
the
new
Street.
As
shown
on
this
slide,
the
applicant
for
roses
to
preserve
the
existing
attached
sidewalk
along
Victory
Road,
as
the
echd
has
a
future
plan
project
along
Victory
Road.
That
will
include
enhanced
pedestrian
and
bicycle
improvements.
AB
AB
Following
that
hearing,
the
applicant
submitted
a
revised
landscape
plan
shown
on
this
slide,
which
has
been
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
community
Forestry
Department.
The
revised
plan
adequately
mitigates
for
the
existing
trees,
which
will
be
removed
from
the
site
during
development,
written
comments
and
verbal
testimony
were
received
from
Neighbors
of
the
site
who
expressed
concern
regarding
the
Project's
compatibility
with
the
adjacent
neighborhoods
and
its
potential
to
adversely
impact
the
existing
residents
of
the
area.
The
full
comments
are
included
in
your
packets
and
are
summarized
on
this
slide.
AB
F
Yes,
the
southwest
corner
of
this
property
is
part
of
the
wetlands
of
Five,
Mile,
Creek
and
I
see
some
Landscaping
shown
there.
I
don't
see
any
opportunity
for
a
future
pathway
along
there.
If
that
is
ever
a
potential
and
I
think
it
is
a
longness
and
I
wonder
I
didn't
see
any
comments
about
that
in
the
packet
if
I
miss
them,
I
apologize
but
I
wonder
if
that
was
talked
about
at
staff
level.
AB
Madam
mayor
council,
president
Clegg,
that
is
an
item
that
was
discussed
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission.
Hearing
and
I
do
have
this
image
here.
That
shows
the
proposed
roads
with
the
subdivision,
along
with
a
future
connection
that
would
come
through
when
the
adjacent
parcel
to
the
east
was
developed
and
that
would
provide
connections
into
existing
and
proposed
pathways.
A
AA
Thank
you
very
much
good
evening,
mayor
City,
Council,
Members
staff
and
guests
Jane
Suggs
with
Jim
State
planning
representing
Callisto
Heights.
The
address
is
9839
cable
car
street.
That's
me
I'm
pleased
to
present
Callisto
Heights.
It's
a
subdivision
located
at
7735,
West,
Victory,
Road,
just
west
of
Cole,
Road
and
I.
Think
Sabrina
did
a
really
good
job
of
giving
you
an
overview,
and
the
staff
report
was
very
thorough
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
do
this
without
turning
something
off.
AA
AA
AA
We
have
reviewed
and
you'll
see
in
the
packet
that
we
updated
our
landscape
plan
to
reflect
on
the
information
we
received
from
Parks
and
we've
reviewed
that
with
the
parts
of
Forester
and
he's
approved
that
we
have
now
received
an
achd
staff
report
and
we
agree
with
all
the
conditions
in
the
achd
staff
report
and
we
agree
with
all
the
conditions
of
approval
in
the
city's
staff
report.
So
you
can
relax
because
I
agree
with
everything
the
city
and
the
achd
has
asked
us
to
do.
AA
I
will
tell
you
right
now
in
the
interest
of
time,
because
you've
already
been
here
for
quite
a
while
I
can
stop
right
here
and
answer
any
questions
you
have
I
do
have
a
few
other
things.
I
can
show
you
about
the
comprehensive
plan
and
our
plat
and
some
even
examples
of
houses,
but
if
you
want
to
move
this
forward
since
I
believe
we've
already
satisfied
our
neighbors,
we
made
some
changes
to
our
plat.
It
looks
like
we've.
AA
This
is
medium
density
in
your
comprehensive
plan.
Thank
you,
so
yeah,
medium
density.
F
AA
F
Jane
just
real
quickly.
First
of
all,
I
appreciate
the
the
connectivity
to
the
east
that
hopefully
will
happen
someday
and
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
while
I
see
the
pathway
that
the
treatment
of
that
land
along
the
edge
of
the
Wetland,
that
you
know,
hopefully
at
some
point
that
actually
gets
developed
in
a
way
that
is
more
like
natural
Wetland
than
landscape.
Park
area
and
I
wondered.
If
you
could
speak
to
that.
Yes,.
AA
I
can
okay
I'm
pushing
a
button
but
I'm
not
sure,
let's
go
to
the
landscape.
Well,
I.
Have
a
landscape
plan
keep
going
and
there's
one
more
landscape
plan
after
that
there
you
go
so
we
plan
to
leave
that
whole
Corner
natural.
We
do
have
some
trees
located
in
the
area.
That's
considered
a
not
flood
Way.
C
L
AA
But
up
a
little
higher,
that's
right
behind
and
we
added
those
trees
as
part
of
our
tree
mitigation
plan,
we
were
asked
to
add
some
in
that
location
so
with
the
Forester
so,
but
we
do
plan
on
mostly
keeping
that
southwest
corner
and
the
Natural
Area
as
a
natural
area.
We
won't
be
Landscaping
it
we,
we
don't
have
a
pathway
through
it,
so
it
will
be
kind
of
generally
a
holding
area
because
we
need
those
next
to
our
floodways.
F
And
then
one
follow-up
in
the
future
if
there
ends
up
being
a
pathway
along
Five,
Mile
Creek,
is
there
consideration
in
the
plan
to
connect
your
pathway
to
them
of.
AA
F
AA
AA
That
would
be
fine.
If
you
just
call
out
and
say
that
he's.
AA
Right
and
you
would
have
to
connect
to
the
East
and
then
go
down
yeah
if
that
happens,
but
I
believe
that
neighborhood
to
the
South
is
all
fenced
off
too.
So
that's
the
but.
AA
Yeah
I
think
so
I
guess
I
know
there
is
okay
yeah
thank
you
yeah,
so
that
could
be
an
added
condition
that
we
added
opportunity
for
an
easement
to
connect
to
a
pathway.
If
that
occurs,.
F
AA
B
AC
Thank
you,
I
would
just
make
some
observations
about
this
application
and
development.
AC
I
know
our
community
is
always
talking
about
needing
more
housing
and
more
density
and
I'm,
not
sure
what
right
answer
to
that
is
ultimately
other
than
where
opportunities
exist,
to
create
more
density
in
areas
that
are
fairly
events
and
fairly
commercial
and
are
served
by
big
roadways.
Why
aren't
we
doing
that?
For
example,
if
you
wanted
to
look
at
page
1122
of
your
report
tonight
or
I
could
share
my
screen.
AC
11
22
talks
about
the
adjacent
land
uses
and
Zoning
of
its
property
and,
interestingly
I'm,
fairly
familiar
with
this
property.
A
family
member
of
mine,
owned
the
corner
of
Victory
and
Cole
Road
back
in
the
70s
where
a
home
was
built.
It's
now
overrun
by
commercial
activities,
there's
gas
stations
on
a
few
of
the
corners.
It's
really
not
so
residential
North
is
m1d.
This
is
Page
1122
of
your
report.
AC
South
is
R4,
East
is
RSW,
which
is
in
Ada,
County,
designation,
I,
guess
and
West
is
A1
open
land
and
RSW
R4
and
R6
medium
density.
This
to
me,
seems
to
be
a
prime
location
to
do
more
than
r1c
zoning
I
know
it'd
be
desirable,
but
with
those
little
Rolling
Hills.
A
lot
of
this
could
be
very
hidden
from
the
large
landowners.
AC
Why
don't
you?
The
city
and
the
applicant
and
the
planning
people
talk
about
making
this
all
we
practice
it
or
even
making
it
a
zoning
designation
that
is
more
dense
than
r1c?
You
don't
need
roads,
there's
plenty
of
employment.
AC
There's
plenty
of
connectivity
and
I
just
feel
like
as
much
as
I
hear
from
my
neighborhood
area
that
you
need
density,
I'm,
wondering
why
you
aren't
asking
for
density
here
and
why
the
developer
wouldn't
appreciate
density
for
their
financial
interest.
So
that's
my
comment.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everybody
thanks!
Julie.
AA
Thank
you
again,
mayor
council,
Jane
Suggs,
representing
Callisto,
Heights
wow,
that's
a
first
somebody
wanting
of
more
density,
that's
good!
In
fact,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
kind
of
compatible
to
the
people
who
were
already
there
in
a
subdivision
to
the
West.
AA
So
if
I
can
well
I'll
need
there,
you
go,
there
shows
the
Jupiter,
which
is
the
subdivision
and
that
was
developed
in
the
county,
so
it
had
an
R4
and
an
R6
zone,
four
units
to
an
acre
six
units
to
acre
we're
at
4.5
or
4.6,
and
we
wanted
to
be
very
compatible
to
them
and
I
believe
this
is
best
served
for
the
single
family.
But
we
do
have
a
nice
mix
of
houses.
We
have
our
larger
Lots
down
on
the
south
side
and
some
36
foot
wide
lots.
AA
AA
AA
So,
oh,
that's
the
park,
we're
going
to
do
right
there
in
the
middle,
so
there's
a
little
neighborhood
park
that
I
think
will
be
enjoyed
by
the
people,
not
only
in
our
neighborhood
but
the
one
adjacent
to
us
and
then
we'll
go
on
a
little
further
and
oh.
This
is
one
of
the
locations
where
we
had
four
units
in
that
curve,
but
the
neighbor
that
we
back
up
to
was
concerned
about
having
side
yard
setbacks.
So
close.
AA
So
that's
when
we
actually
lost
a
lot
so
that
we
could
put
in
those
lots
are
140
feet
deep.
So
we
have
big
backyards
and
some
separation
from
the
house
that's
already
there.
So
we
wanted
to
do
that
to
after
we
met
with
the
neighborhood
association
and
the
neighbors.
AA
During
our
meeting
we
changed
that
so
that
actually
is
just
one
lot
we
lost,
but
it
changes
the
density
a
little
bit
and
then
we'll
go
on
and
look
at
there's
some
of
the
houses
on
the
36
foot
wide
Lots
we've
got
a
few
of
those
and
those
actually
provide
a
really
they're
there.
You
can
see
their
1600
1400
square
feet,
they're,
perfect
for
and
three
bedrooms,
so
they're,
really
nice
and
I
think
those
prices
are
going
to
be
coming
down
too,
which
is
good
and
we
keep
going.
We
have
some
standard.
AA
No,
even
one
story
is
cute.
That's
my
favorite
house
is
a
two-story.
It's
on
a
50
foot
wide
lot
or
something
very
similar
to
that,
and
then
we
have
some
larger
lots
that
have
three
car
garages
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
nice
in
one
neighborhood
to
have
all
those
different
opportunities
for
housing.
It's
not
Apartments,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
somebody
might
buy
one
of
those
and
rent
them,
and
so
it
gives
that
that
possibility
as
well.
K
AA
AA
The
market
bears-
and
it
may
because
we're
in
Boise
versus
some
of
the
other
jurisdictions
where
I
work.
If
we
get
approval
we'll
be
doing
construction
drawings
through
the
winter
time,
I
mean
we
could
be
doing
subdivision
work
as
early
as
next
year
with
next
summer,
so
utilities
and
streets,
so
it
means
at
in
the
market
we
had.
That
would
mean
houses
would
be
going
up.
AA
Next
fall
right
now,
it's
really
hard
to
say:
I've
had
so
I've
had
projects
and
other
jurisdictions
actually
being
pulled
after
they've
been
approved
and
we're
just
not
going
to
go
forward
with
them
for
a
while,
just
because
the
market
is
so,
and
these
are
Cory
Barton
homes
and
he
does
have
several
hundred
homes
on
the
market
right
now
and
so
I'm
sure
he's
going
to
be
wanting
to
do
that
before
he
builds
these,
but
it
also
is
Boise.
AA
So
a
very,
very
good
market
right
now
in
Boise,
I
think
very,
very
much
still
a
good
market
and.
H
Amir
thanks
Jane
I
think
this
is
a
really
nice
little
infill
neighborhood
in
suits
the
area.
Well,
one
thing
that
we've
been
talking
about
as
part
of
our
zoning
code
rewrite
is
looking
at
the
form
of
homes
and
making
sure
that
they're,
really
pedestrian
friendly
I
noticed
that
these
have
wide
driveways
protruding
garages.
H
What
is
the
thinking
behind
build?
You
know
designing
a
neighborhood
in
that
way
versus
one.
That's
a
little
bit
more
pedestrian
friendly
and
front
door
forward.
AA
People
want
garages,
so
you'd
have
to
build
Alleyways,
which
increases
the
price,
so
that
becomes
a
problem
in
certain
jurisdictions
in
certain
locations,
and
the
geometry
of
this
particular
site
would
not
really
lend
itself
to
do
Alleyways
and
a
main
street.
We
do
have
separated
sidewalks,
however,
so
that
really
adds
to
The
Pedestrian
friendliness
of
the
neighborhood
and
we've
lined
that,
of
course,
the
eight
foot
planting
strip
with
Street
trees
and
we
have
trees
on
in
the
yards,
so
I
mean
it's
I
believe
for
what
it
is.
H
But
this
seems
pretty
common
in
Boise
I.
Don't
think
it's
our
best
day,
so
any
consideration
that
can
be
given
there
and
I
think
that
you'll
see
a
lot
of
that
in
our
zoning.
Rewrite
too
thank.
AA
We
had
to
be
a
sideload
garage,
but
no,
that
is
an
architectural
thing
and
it
is
the
builders
designs
and
almost
all
of
the
builders
designs
have
that
front
garage
and
it's
it's
just
a
way
of
Designing
to
put
more
space
in
the
house.
Otherwise
you
have
I,
don't
know,
there's
just
some
geometry
again
of
house
I'm,
not
an
architect,
but
he
has
Architects
working
on
that
daily
to
do
different
types
of
designs
and
add
value
to
the
lot
and
the
homes.
B
B
L
B
So
sure
I'm
gonna
have
you
come
on
up.
Typically
Jane.
You've
got
a
minute
and
56
seconds
left
so
I'll.
Let
you
come
up
for
a
rebuttal
again,
I'm,
typically
typically
what
I,
when
I
ask?
If
there
are
people
here
to
testify,
you
need
to
do
it
before
we
move
into
rebuttal,
but
come
on
up.
You
can
do
that
now.
B
You'll
need
to
give
us
your
name
and
address
and
then
Jane.
If
you
feel
the
need,
you
can
thanks.
AD
Hello
mayor
council,
my
name
is
Matthew
Walker
I
work
as
a
part-time
political
consultant.
I've
got
a
friend
in
California
that
I've
been
helping
and
after
he
won
his
election.
I
got
kind
of
inspired
to
get
more
involved
around
here,
so
here,
I
am
I,
have
nothing
intrinsically
of
Interest.
With
this
ordinance,
however,
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
talking
to
at
length
with
my
friend
in
regard
to
affordable
housing
is
the
act
of
taking
retail
spaces
that
are
being
abandoned.
AD
We're
running
as
a
country
into
a
well
actually
as
the
world
as
a
whole
is
running
into
another
recession.
It's
looking
like,
and,
unfortunately
one
part
of
that
is
going
to
be
we're
going
to
probably
see
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
commercial
spaces
starting
to
be
emptied
over
the
next
year
or
so.
If,
if
this
happens
to
be
the
case
that
we
run
into
another
recession,
so
one
thing
that
I've
worked
with
with
my
friend
down
in
California
is
there's
a
old
shopping
mall,
for
instance,
that
they
are
going.
B
AD
Okay
yeah
now
this
is
something
bigger
than
within
affordable
housing.
B
B
F
Our
mayor
I
move
that
we
approve
car
2217,
Gem,
State
planning,
7735,
West,
Victory
way,
the
annexation
of
approximately
7.88
Acres,
with
an
r1c
zoning,
designation
and
I
will,
when
I
make
the
motion
on
the
subdivision
talk
about
the
condition
for
the
pathway.
Second,.
F
Just
note
that
this
is
I
think
a
good
little
infill
site
for
the
kind
of
housing.
That's
proposed
I
appreciate
our
the
testimony
asking
for
more
density.
There
will
be
a
lot
of
density
very
near
here
on
the
school
district,
ground
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
mix
of
housing
type
near
that.
G
F
At
a
mayor,
I
move
approval
of
Kalisto
heights,
subdivision
SUV
2252
Boise
City
preliminary
Platt
for
a
residential
subdivision
with
35
buildable
Lots
in
an
r1c,
with
the
added
condition
that
the
pathway
to
the
Natural
open
space
area
on
the
Southwest
have
a
easement
that
would
connect
it
to
a
pathway
along
Five,
Mile,
Creek
Creek.
If
such
a
pathway
is
ever
established.
AB
L
A
So
we've
got
staff
the
applicant,
the
neighborhood
association.
Vista.
Are
you
here
for
that
great
public
Tammy
welcome
and
then.
B
Okay,
it's
the
two
of
you
that
have
signed
up
if
anybody
is
online
for
this
one
raise
your
hands
and
let
us
know
and
we'll
call
you
after
we
take
care
of
folks
here
in
the
room
and
with
that
go
ahead
when
you're
ready
foreign.
AE
Good
evening,
Madame
mayor
members
of
the
council,
before
you
use
a
request
for
a
rezone
in
subdivision,
the
project
site
is
approximately
18
Acres,
located
located
at
2521
West
Victory
Road.
This
property
is
within
the
central
bench
planning
area
and
is
situated
between
downtown
and
the
airport.
Less
than
a
quarter
mile
from
the
site
is
a
bus
stop
at
Vista
and
Canal,
which
is
served
by
VRT
route
3.
AE
directly
north
is
the
melody
Thornton
Mobile
Home
Park
in
Sugar
Pine
Townhomes
to
the
Northwest,
is
a
hotel
and
medical
office.
So
the
Northeast
is
single
family
residential
neighborhood,
directly
adjacent
to
the
site
on
the
East.
Is
a
vacant
parcel
anticipated
to
redevelop
with
a
similar
density
and
to
the
West
is
a
five-acre
agricultural
property?
AE
The
site
has
a
designation
of
mixed
use,
which
is
intended
to
promote
a
more
compact,
pedestrian
and
transit-oriented
pattern
of
development.
The
reason
request
is
to
go
to
R3,
which
would
allow
for
a
maximum
of
43.5
units
per
acre.
The
proposed
project
would
have
a
total
density
of
just
under
20
units
per
acre.
This
project
would
offer
a
variety
of
housing
types
products
as
well
as
neighborhood
amenities
and
improved
connectivity.
AE
AE
On
October
3rd,
the
planning
zoning
commission
approved
an
Associated
PUD
for
358
multi-family
units
comprised
of
three-story
Apartments
and
Townhomes.
The
proposed
buildings
are
within
the
maximum
allowed
45-foot
height
limit
of
the
R3
Zone.
The
proposed
elevations
provide
a
mix
of
architectural
interests
and
the
buildings
are
situated
to
provide
Street
activation
with
either
front
doors
or
patios
facing
the
road.
The
project
meets
all
the
requirements
of
both
the
vehicle
and
bicycle
parking
provided
on
site.
AE
On-Site
amenities
include:
a
community
Clubhouse
fitness
facility,
swimming
pool,
playground,
dog
park,
dog
washing
station
Community
Garden
in
several
pocket
parks.
In
addition,
the
site
is
providing
Community
amenities,
which
include
a
food
truck
Park
situated
along
the
shared
multimodal
pathway,
pocket
parks
and
the
pathway
that
connects
along
the
south
on
New
York
canal
and
then
up
on
the
Western
Property
to
Victory
Road.
AE
AE
AE
Public
comments
were
received
in
general.
Those
comments,
detailed
concerns
with
traffic
increase
safety
concerns
and
compatibility
with
the
existing
neighborhood.
The
planning
team
points
to
the
improvements
being
proposed
by
the
applicant,
which
include
widening
Victory
Road,
providing
detached
sidewalks
along
Victory
Road,
also
providing
the
multimodal
pathway
connections
to
improve
overall
connectivity
and
safety
for
both
pedestrians
and
cyclists
in
the
area.
AE
In
terms
of
compatibility,
the
site
is
designated
mixed
use
and
is
intended
for
this
higher
density
development
agency
comments
were
received,
achd
overall
reviewed
and
accepted
the
provided
tis
concerns
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
were
brought
up
regarding
a
pedestrian
crosswalk.
Over
Victory
Road
staff
has
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
achd
to
discuss
a
potential
crosswalk
over
Victory
achd
indicated
that
that
is
a
possibility,
but
would
ultimately
need
to
go
back
for
design
and
location
for
further
analysis
with
achd.
X
There
was
some
conversations,
at
least
in
the
notes,
for
the
planning
zoning
commission
about
a
railroad
crossing
and
I
wasn't
quite
sure
that
I
completely
understood
that
conversation.
So
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
just
maybe
Loop
Us
in
on
that.
AE
Sure
I
was
hoping
that
I
don't
have
a
map.
That's
zoomed
out
enough
to
point
to
that,
but
Madame
mayor
and
council
member
Halliburton
there
is
a
railroad
crossing
on
Victory,
further
east
offside
of
this
development.
That
discussion
was
regarding
whether
or
not
this
project
would
be
required
mitigation
to
improve
that
Crossing.
AE
All
in
all,
we
reviewed
that
the
tis
did
not
recommend
that
as
a
mitigation,
achd
did
not
recommend
that
as
mitigation
and
in
conclusion,
there's
just
not
a
Nexus
to
to
make
the
developer
improve
that
Crossing.
AE
I
will
note
with
conversations
with
achd
it's
in
their
five-year
work
plan
to
improve
sidewalks
over
the
railroad
crossing
So.
Within
the
five-year
work
plan.
There
is
plans
for
a
five
to
seven
foot
wide
attached,
sidewalk
to
go
over
the
railroad
crossing.
X
F
Yeah
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
So,
first
of
all,
I
appreciate
the
the
connectivity,
or
at
least
the
future
connectivity.
F
F
It's
a
big
enough
property
and,
as
I
see
what's
being
proposed
here,
I
don't
see
any
proposal
for
a
park
in
it
and
wondered
I
know
that
there's
been
suggestion
that
the
property
to
the
east
is
a
good
site
for
that.
But
I
don't
believe
that
this
developer
owns
that
property.
AE
Yeah
Madame
mayor
council,
member
Clegg
with
this
particular
development.
What
we're
seeing
on
site
are
smaller
pocket,
Parks,
Community
amenities,
open
space
and
the
pathway
in
regards
to
a
more
dedicated
or
Regional
Park
Parks
has
explored
the
property
adjacent
to
the
West,
which
is
currently
under
private
ownership.
So
I
think
those
negotiations
are
ongoing,
but
that
that
parcel
about
five
to
six
acres
to
the
West
would
be
identified
as
a
potential
Park
location.
F
AE
F
And
so
yeah
to
be
clear:
it's
not
a
it's
a
neighborhood
park.
Yes,
it
would
be
five
or
six
acres,
but
it's
still
neighborhood
size.
It's
not
Regional
Regional
would
be
much
bigger
thanks.
AF
All
right,
good
evening,
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
my
name
is
Ryan.
Morgan
I
live
at
333,
Josephine
Street,
Denver,
Colorado
I'd,
like
to
start
by
stating
how
enjoyable
it
has
been
to
work
and
collaborate
with
the
planning
department.
Their
thoroughness,
thoughtfulness
and
passion
has
helped
to
make
this
community
a
world-class
development.
AF
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
Vista
neighborhood
association
for
their
continued
communication
and
efforts
to
help
us
design
this
project
together,
I'm
a
third
generation
real
estate,
developer,
I've,
lived
and
built
apartment
communities
and
homes
across
the
country
and
in
every
time
zone
my
passion
is
people
and
building
a
better
world
for
our
residents,
neighbors
and
our
communities.
We
build
best-in-class
projects
and
have
won
many
awards
throughout
throughout
the
years
for
a
thoughtfulness
and
Design.
AF
S
S
The
applicant
worked
closely
with
planning
staff
and
Incorporated
their
design
input,
including
to
pull
the
buildings
closer
to
the
street,
with
a
reduced
10-foot
setback
that
the
commission
approved
and
to
use
public
streets
arranged
in
a
grid
with
detached
sidewalks
and
Street
trees
to
create
a
walkable
Urban
feel
the
apartment
buildings
all
have
took
under
garages
and
the
remaining
limited
surface
parking
is
interior
and
out
of
sight
from
the
main
streets
and
pedestrian
Pathways.
A
centralized
amenity
complex
includes
a
clubhouse
and
fitness
pool
and
Lounge
areas.
S
The
pink
trees
that
you
can
see
on
the
plans
around
pocket
parks
with
benches
and
plazas
for
Gathering
areas
along
the
canal
to
the
South
is
the
20-foot
wide
multi-use
pathway.
This
area
will
be
programmed
for
both
residents
and
the
community
with
pop-up
commercial
activities
such
as
food
trucks,
there's
also
a
dog
park,
Green
Space
and
a
community
garden
along
the
pathway.
The
project
will
also
add
the
10
foot,
multi-use
pathway
running
north
south
along
the
west
side,
to
provide
the
connection
back
up
to
Victory
before
the
property
to
the
West
develops.
S
Would
you
mind
skipping
that
one,
the
the
proposed
R3
zoning
does
not
burden
city
services.
The
site
is
in
Phil,
surrounded
by
city
limits,
making
it
an
efficient
utilization
of
existing
services
and
infrastructure
without
added
sprawl
or
lengthening
commutes.
The
site
is
adjacent
to
a
transitional
commercial
arterial
Road
in
Vista
Avenue,
which
is
served
by
VRT
Route
3
heading
downtown
and
to
the
airport.
S
If
you
could
change
it,
seasons
on
the
bench
supports
a
number
of
comprehensive
plan
goals,
including
to
promote
compact
walkable
development
patterns,
to
support
Transit
routes
and
to
enhanced
pedestrian
activity
slide.
Please
R3.
Zoning
is
consistent
with
the
surrounding
zoning
and
the
Planned
and
existing
uses.
The
site
is
surrounded
by
residential
and
Commercial
zoning,
including
our
three
zoning
immediately
North
across
Victory
slide
place.
S
S
Please
neighbors
have
raised
concerns
about
traffic.
The
development
team
did
prepare
a
traffic
study
in
May
that
actually
anticipated
402
units
so
44
more
than
the
development.
Now
includes
making
for
a
conservative
study,
the
study
also
took
into
account
the
trips
from
the
plan
development
to
the
east.
The
traffic
study
concluded
that,
based
on
the
level
of
service
standards
established
by
achd,
all
of
the
study
area,
roadways
and
intersections
will
continue
to
meet
levels
of
service
with
the
full
build
out
of
this
project
and
the
project
to
the
east.
S
Neighbors
have
also
raised
concerns
about
road
infrastructure,
but,
as
Delaney
noted,
this
development
will
provide
significant
new
infrastructure
improvements,
widening
Victory
Road,
providing
a
new
bike
lane,
adding
curb
Gutter
and
detached
sidewalk,
adding
the
multi-use
pathway
along
the
canal
and
along
our
western
border,
with
the
proposed
development
of
the
East.
This
will
create
new
recreational
access
for
the
entire
community
and,
of
course,
the
applicant
will
pay
impact
fees
to
achd
to
pay
the
development's
proportionate
share
of
off-site
infrastructure
needs.
S
And
finally,
as
Delaney
noted,
the
applicant
has
also
approached
achd
directly
to
discuss
the
possible
crosswalk
across
Victory
Road
nachd
has
said
they
will
work
with
the
project
and
the
adjoining
developer
to
explore
this
opportunity,
and
the
applicant
here
will
continue
to
work
with
achd.
On
that
effort.
The
neighbors
finally
have
raised
concerns
about
speeding.
Developing
an
empty
site
will
naturally
decrease
the
speeding
on
Victory
Road.
When
people
see
a
vacant
and
underutilized
land,
they
think
that
they
can
fly
down
the
street,
but
vehicular
use
with
cars.
S
Here
with
the
main
entry,
you
can
see
some
of
the
flat
roof
features
that
were
encouraged
by
staff
and
incorporated
into
the
design,
distinct
end
caps,
reflecting
the
design
and
input
from
staff,
different
bulb
outs
and
materials.
Next
slide,
please,
you
can
see
looking
Southwest
we've
added
the
first
floor,
patios
there
to
further
activate
the
street
level
and
next
slide.
Looking
West,
you
can
see
some
more
of
that
street
activation
and
engagement
with
the
balconies
at
the
street
level.
S
Next
slide
on
this
northeast
corner.
You
can
see
the
end
cap
and
brick
to
break
up
the
materiality
and
still
offer
that
contemporary
feel
the
balconies
are
in
a
variety
of
different
materials.
Next
slide,
here's
the
view
towards
the
clubhouse.
This
is
facing
the
clubhouse
from
the
north
of
that
main
entry.
You
can
see
the
crosswalk
here
in
the
festival
lighting.
S
This
creates
a
gathering
space
both
inside
and
out
in
that
centralized
amenity
area
next
slide,
and
here
you
can
see
that
the
pool
the
courtyard
the
leasing
Center
the
Club
room,
the
fitness
area
next
slide
here,
you
can
see
some
of
the
the
renderings
have
been
put
together
to
illustrate
some
of
the
Gathering
spaces,
the
key
Gathering
spaces
within
the
development.
This
is
a
pocket
part
view.
S
You
can
see
the
pink
trees
that
I
highlighted
on
the
site
plan,
one
of
the
many
pocket
Parks
the
centralized
to
the
site
with
seating
and
pavers
and
Landscaping
next
slide,
and
here
is
the
Food
Truck
Park
area.
That's
along
the
20
foot,
wide
pathway,
creating
additional
Public
Access
into
the
site.
The
programming
will
include
food
trucks
and
similar
pop-up
commercial
activity
to
serve
residents
in
the
community.
As
you
look
further
to
the
west,
then
you
can
see
the
dog
park
and,
beyond
that,
the
green
space
with
seating
and
Gathering
areas
next
slide.
S
Please,
which
continue
to
provide
space
to
eat
the
food
from
the
food
trucks
together
to
play
and
again
for
the
West.
You
can
see
the
community
garden
seasons
on
the
bench
will
provide
quality
rental
housing
in
an
infill
area
in
compliance
with
your
code
and
with
your
comprehensive
plan,
and
we
thank
you
for
your
consideration
and
ask
for
your
approval
of
the
rezone
and
preliminary
plot.
X
X
X
S
X
Yet
the
conversation
I
would
encourage
you
to
have
it
with
them.
Yes,
is
that
working
with
us
on
some
of
the
the
Pathways,
but
also
development,
that
goes
along
the
canal
and
the
types
of
stuff
that
is
planted
along
that
Canal
easement
area,
even
though
it
may
be
owned
by
the
by
the
property
owner,
so
my
encouragement
would
be
for
you
to
reach
out
to
the
Irrigation
District
to
talk
to
them
about
any
type
of
planting
that
would
take
place
on
the
other
side
of
that
multi-use
path.
H
Mayor
thanks,
Deb
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
that
I'm
not
able
to
find
the
answers
to
along
Victory.
Will
there
will
there
be
vehicle
parking
on
Victory
on
no
street
parking
along
there.
S
Madame
mayor
council,
member
woodings
I
did
not
think
there
was
parking
allowed
on
Victory
Road.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
find
that
really
quickly.
S
H
Then
my
next
question
and
I
think
it's
just
something
a
little
bit
wonky
with
the
rendering
is
it
shows
on
that
crossing.
That's
like
if
you're
on
Victory
going
into
the
subdivision
yeah
as
a
pedestrian
Crossing,
it
looks
like
there's
a
little
pedestrian
Island
there.
H
S
Mountain
America,
council
member
woodings
I
think
you're,
referring
to
the
the
the
paver
area,
that
is
to
delineate
the
crosswalks
and
I,
don't
know
if
Delaney
might
be
able
to
flip
back.
K
G
S
The
same
thing
back
toward
the
where
you
see
the
the
lighting.
S
So
there
is
an
intersection
there
of
the
public
streets
from
the
main
street
that
comes
in
and
then
the
cross
street
that
goes
east
west.
That
will
provide
connectivity
in
both
directions
to
our
East
and
Western
Property
boundaries
and
so
they're
they're.
In
some
of
the
elevations
there,
the
developers
tried
to
show
how
they
will
make
that
a
safe,
crosswalk
internal
to
the
site
by
using
decorative
Paving
there.
So
there
will
be
crosswalks
delineated
across
the
across
those
roadways
and
just
try
to
create
that
as
a
pedestrian,
safe
feeling
area.
S
The
boulevard
entrance
Island
I
I,
do
see
that
now
I
see
what
you're
talking
about
now.
That
will
be
landscaped
appropriately
I
assume.
Would
you
like
it
not
to
be
sod?
Well,
it.
H
S
Yes,
and
to
include
a
walking
path
through
there
I'm
sorry
I,
didn't
understand
which
patch
you
were
talking
about.
K
AF
America
councilman
Let's,
we
actually
don't
have
a
playground
planned.
We
have
a
community
garden,
a
number
of
pocket
parks
and
areas.
We
do
have
the
grassy
area.
That
was
the
last
rendering
that
was
shown
for
Gathering
spaces
throughout
in
the
dog
park
area.
But
there's
not
a
designated
I
would
call
it.
Four
children
play
area
yeah.
K
AF
F
F
So
a
couple
of
things
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of.
First
of
all,
there
is
not
a
good
section
of
what
is
going
to
happen
on
Victory
Road
in
our
packet,
so
councilmember
weddings
question
is
one
that
I
have
as
well.
What
is
the
finished
width
of
the
pavement
on
Victory
going
to
be?
What's
this
section
going
to
look
like
what
are
the
Lane
width's
going
to
be?
Is
the
bike
lane
going
to
be
protected,
or
is
it
just
going
to
be
striped
I
I
have
no
idea.
S
Madame
mayor
council,
member
Clegg,
at
least
from
the
looking
at
achd's
report,
I,
can
tell
you
what
they've
said
about
Victory
Road
that
the
the
development
will
improve:
Victory
Road
abutting
the
site
with
an
11
and
a
half
foot
wide
travel,
Lane,
eight
and
a
half
feet
of
pavement
for
a
bike
lane
vertical
curb
Gutter
and
an
eight
foot
wide
landscape
strip
and
a
five
foot
wide
detached
concrete
sidewalk,
with
dedicated
additional
right-of-way
from
the
center
line
to
a
total
of
35
and
a
half
feet.
So
I
I
do
believe.
S
That
means
there
is
not
on
street
parking
there.
It
is
there.
It
is
designed
design
designated
in
the
master
street
map
at
hsu's
master
street
map
as
a
traditional
neighborhood
collector
with
two
lanes:
on-street
bike
lanes
and
36
foot
Street
sections,
so
it
is
planned.
The
development
mirrors
what
their
designation
is
for
this
roadway.
Okay,.
F
And
did
you
say
attached
and
I'm
I'm
detached
okay,
detached
I,
I
was
going
to
say
I
I
thought
I
understood
they
were
detached,
so
I
do
understand
that
their
existing
master
street
map
calls
for
that
that
section,
11
and
a
half
foot
Lanes
will
encourage
speeding.
F
There
won't
be
a
buffer
between
the
lane
and
the
bike
lane,
even
though
the
bike
lane
is
wide
so
I'm
I'm
going
to
suggest
this
is
a
preliminary
plat
that
our
staff
continue
to
work
with
ADHD
on
that
road
section
so
that
we
get
one
that's
actually
safe
for
both
drivers
and
bicyclists,
because
I'm
not
sure
in
that
configuration
that
it
will
do
the
things
that
we'd
like
it
to
do
without
the
parking
without
any
protection
for
the
bike
lane
I
think.
F
Typically,
it
will
just
like
look
like
a
very
wide
street
that
most
people
will
speed
on
so
just
FYI.
My
bigger
question
is
at
the
intersection
with
Helen
Street,
where
you're
showing
this
island.
So
first
of
all,
yes,
that
sidewalk
should
Traverse
across
that
Island.
It
can
act
as
a
refuge
and
that'll
be
great
you're,
showing
curb
extensions
inside
the
development
and
I'm
wondering
why
you
didn't
think
about
putting
a
curb
extension
on
Victory
at
this
particular
place
and
I
know:
we've
got
bike
Lanes.
So
how
do
you
do
that?
F
S
I'm
not
aware
of
any
design
considered
that
way
and
I
don't
know
if
achd
would
approve
such
a
design,
but
it's
as
far
as
the
collaboration
of
working
with
them
to
see
if
they
would
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
objections.
So,
okay,
certainly
open
to
that
and.
F
N
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
hey,
Deb
I'm,
just
wondering.
Is
there
any
idea
of
what
what
these
units
are
going
to
be
going
for
once
they're
up
and
running.
S
V
V
Madam,
mayor
and
city
council,
my
name
is
Dave
Kangas
and
I
am
speaking
to
you
today
on
behalf
of
the
Vista
neighborhood
association.
The
Vista
neighborhood
association
cannot
support
this
project
without
conditions
from
the
beginning.
We've
always
known
that
this,
these
properties
we're
going
to
be
getting
developed
and
they've
kind
of
come
across
all
at
once,
so
we're
overwhelmed
with
the
size
and
scope
of
them
for
this
particular
project
and
developer.
We
really
appreciate
the
quality
and
the
design
of
what
is
being
planned
and
prepared.
V
The
problem
is,
and
is
just
undescribably
frustrating
traffic
from
Canal
and
Vista,
which
connects
victory.
That
is
the
primary
access,
as
will
be
victory
in
Federal
Way.
That
is
a
25
mile,
an
hour
Street
two
lanes
wide.
It
has
substandard
railroad
crossings
and
current
traffic
levels
right
now
are
a
little
over
2
700
trips
a
day.
V
This
development
will
double
that
by
adding
from
the
traffic
plants
2650.
The
next
development
is
going
to
be
over
5
000
additional
trips,
so
we're
going
from
2700
daily
trips
a
day
to
over
ten
thousand
on
little
Victory
Road,
and
this
has
been
planned
for
quite
a
while.
Leighton's
first
approach
was
last
December
and
we
have
yet
to
see
a
comprehensive
plan
on
how
that
traffic
is
going
to
be
dealt
with.
V
V
Nothing
for
a
bike.
Lane
there's
been
extensive
work
to
create
a
bicycle-oriented
development
of
both
of
these
I
believe
the
they
have
400
bike
parking
stalls
on
this
development.
The
one
next
door
has
over
600.
there's
no
safe
way
of
getting
across
Federal
Way.
There
is
no
protected
Crossing
there.
We've
got
a
great
bike
path.
Both
developers
are
planning
on
filling
these
up
with
Micron
employees,
but
we
have
no
idea,
no
plan,
nothing
that
says
how
this
traffic
is
going
to
be
mitigated.
V
This
particular
development
in
the
traffic
studies
shows
that
it
exceeds
the
levels
coming
in
from
Vista
on
Canal,
turning
right
onto
victory.
It
shows
that
it
meeting
capacity
on
the
left
turn
lane
from
Canal
onto
Vista
right
turn.
Lanes
coming
down,
Federal
Way
onto
Malad
is
overbooked,
but
they
don't
exceed
the
standards
that
require
mitigation.
V
Basically,
this
development
is
filling
the
picture
for
the
traffic
in
this
area
on
this
street.
The
next
development
is
going
to
double
it
and
nobody.
You
know
nobody
has
told
us
what
we're
going
to
do.
Currently.
In
the
last
five
years
of
the
traffic
study
from
2016
through
2020,
there
were
29
accidents,
quadruple
that
to
116.
V
18
injuries,
quadruple
that
to
72
injuries
vehicle
on
vehicle
Treasure
Valley
has
just
received
recently
had
two
very
tragic
deaths
to
pedestrian
and
bicyclists
116
accidents,
vehicle
and
vehicle.
What's
going
to
happen
on
its
vehicle
on
pedestrian
vehicle
on
bicyclist
I
do
not
understand.
We
do
not
comprehend
how
this
project
can
be
moving
so
far
along
and
nobody
has
addressed
the
traffic.
V
V
There's
no
shoulder,
there's
no
sidewalks!
It's
steep!
It's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
money
and
time
to
redo
this
railroad
crossing
that
this
is
Victory.
When
you
look
at
Malad,
it's
the
same
thing
now.
Some
of
these
projects
are
in
The
Five-Year
work
plan,
but
there's
no
funding,
there's
no
plans
out
nobody's
come
presented
to
us
to
assure
us
what's
going
on
on
this
particular
development,
the
curve
going
around
Victory
to
Canal
should
not
have
any
parking
the
capacity.
V
When
you
look
at
the
were
the
project
goes
around
the
curve
to
Canal
and
then
approaches
Vista.
There
is
a
limited
number
of
car
spaces.
You
only
barely
see
it
at
the
top
left.
V
There
is
a
very
limited
number
length
of
space
to
hold
vehicles
to
turn
left
onto
Vista
thinking
if
I
get
seven
or
eight
cars
in
there.
This
development
will
Max
that
out.
I
have
asked
achd
to
look
at
re-striping
Victory
going
around
the
curve.
So
there
are
two
lanes
going
west
so
that
you
have
one
lane
that'll
be
the
left
turn
lane
onto
Vista
and
one
lane
can
just
pull
through
and
turn
right
onto
Vista.
V
V
V
It's
going
to
be
just
you
know
not
as
bad
as
victory,
but
it's
a
20
mile,
an
hour,
neighborhood
street
Victory
to
down
a
net
to
Target
will
be
if
you
look
at
the
top
right.
Obviously
this
is
on
the
next
development,
the
top
right
corner.
There
that's
going
to
be
the
primary
exit
out
of
that
development
and
that'll
be
a
straight
shot
down
a
net
to
Target
and
over
to
Hawthorne.
V
But
nobody
want
nobody's
addressed
that
I
I,
just
don't
know
what
else
to
say
it
is
mind-boggling.
You
know,
I
have
to
refer
back
to
Elaine's,
testimony
from
a
Congress
or
this
summer
on
the
DraStic
increases
in
traffic
deaths
across
the
country
and
in
Idaho,
particularly,
but
what
are
we
actually
doing
about
it?
V
How
can
we
move
forward
at
this
level?
To
this
extent,
on
this
larger
projects
without
dressing,
the
streets
and
safety?
We've
got
a
great
pathway
bike,
Lanes
everything
to
get
right.
You
know
people
promote
people
to
ride,
but
yeah
just
don't
get
out
of
the
subdivisions.
Just
ride
circles
around
the
subdivision,
so
the
Vista
neighborhood
just
cannot
support
this
project
without
conditions
and
it
and
that's
really
where
we
stamp.
X
V
Well,
as
I
mentioned,
this
development
kind
of
fills
the
picture
up
for
the
road
Network
in
this
area.
The
next
development
is
to
double
that,
so
conditions
would
be
a
crosswalk
across
a
protected
crosswalk
or
a
raised
crosswalk
across
victory,
because
we
need
something
to
start
slowing
traffic
down
as
it
comes
around
the
curve,
and
we
need
something
for
the
people
in
this
development
to
be.
You
know,
get
safely
cross
victory.
V
If
you,
when
you
go
out
east
on
Victory
to
Federal
Way
the
you
it's
not
a
good
turn
left
turn
area
for
any
significant
amount
of
traffic.
There's
not
a
safe
turn
lane
there
and
you
get
competing
traffic
coming
off
of
Federal
Way
turning
left
in
front
of
you,
so
the
majority
of
people
that
we're
going
to
turn
left
on
Federal
Way
are
going
to
go
over
to
my
lab.
That's
what
I
do
that's
the
simplest
way,
but
we
need
a
protected
crosswalk
and
a
light.
V
So
I
would
say
a
raised
crosswalk
and
funding
towards
the
traffic
signal
at
Malad
would
be
a
definite
condition.
I,
don't
know
exactly.
What's
going
to
come
out
of
the
traffic
report
for
the
next
project,
that's
not
going
to
be
out
until
Friday
and
after
the
pnz
hearing
for
this
one
I
think
I,
stomped
and
snorted
loud
enough
that
you
know
people
are
working
on
it.
But
again
we
don't
have.
V
It
yeah
I
would
say
no
parking
around
the
curb
on
Victory
from
in
front
of
this
development
to
Canal.
There
should
be
no
parking
on
either
side
it
protected
or
raised
crosswalk,
and
some
type
of
funding
towards
the
signal
at
Malad
in
Victory
to
enhance
that
and
make
sure
that
we
can
get
that
moving
forward.
Thanks.
A
L
R
Other
places
in
the
city
of
Boise
bulb
outs
raised
medians,
Road,
bumps
Road,
humps
speed,
bumps,
stop
signs,
enhanced
pedestrian
Crossings
protected
bike
Lanes.
These
are
needed
here.
These
are
everywhere
else.
It
seems
in
Boise,
but
here
this
development
will
add
2652
trips
per
day
to
this
stretch
of
West
Victory
Road.
Why
aren't
safety
measures
like
the
ones
I
listed,
the
ones
that
have
been
raised,
the
ones
that
are
so
common
in
other
parts
of
Boise?
Why
aren't
they
part
of
this
project?
R
Why
is
it,
for
example,
that
Highlands
Cove
development,
consisting
of
57
single-family
homes
on
54
Acres,
triggered
concerns
about
pre-development
safety
issues
due
to
traffic
and
excessive
speed,
triggered
a
neighborhood
traffic
and
pedestrian
study
led
to
installation
of
traffic
mitigation
measures,
including
multiple
stop
signed,
controlled
intersections
for
the
purpose
of
safer
pedestrian
Crossing
and
to
reduce
traffic
speed?
According
to
achd's
2017
report
developers
of
that,
Highlands
Cove
subdivision
were
obligated
to
fund
additional
traffic
calming
measures
in
addition
to
the
ones
I
listed
as
part
of
their
development
requirements.
R
Why
sorry
again,
this
development,
more
than
2500
vehicle
trips
per
day,
will
be
added
to
West
Victory
Road.
Why
aren't
traffic
studies?
Why
aren't
mitigation
measures
deemed
necessary
for
a
project
like
Highlands
Cove,
not
part
of
this
high
density
project,
referring
to
the
photos
in
my
written
comments
and
shown
here?
There
is
no
justification
that
the
needed
safety
mitigation
of
this
extremely
dangerous
railroad
crossing
with
no
shoulder
and
steep
drop-offs
is
out
of
scope
of
this
development.
The
railroad
crossing
is
visible
from
the
development.
It's
not
far
away.
R
B
Your
time
up
but
you're
welcome
to
finish
that
sentence
or
give
a
different
wrap-up
sentence,
but
one
sentence
and
I
off
I
always
remind
people
not
a
long
run-on
sentence.
R
B
R
B
R
R
I
was
told
it's
too
late,
okay,
but
the
notice
the
pnv
sent
out
for
next
week's
hearing
says
that
that's
who
I
need
to
contact
with
my
Transportation
comments,
so
I
have
tried
to
recontact
achd
to
ask
them.
Well,
is
it?
Is
it
really
too
late
and
they
have
not
returned?
My
calls?
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
and
if
I
may,
collaboration
is
happening
with
achd
in
the
city
of
Boise
and
other
areas.
L
AC
Okay,
can
you
hear
me
now
yep
we
can
hear
you
I'm
going
to
print
some
bumper
stickers
that
say
that
I
don't
think
I
can
make
a
million
anyway
Julie
helvey,
3707,
Ned's,
first
Boise
I,
truly
appreciate
the
dedication
Dave
Kangas
has
put
in
to
help
us
all
understand
the
impacts
of
this
development.
I
appreciate
the
comments
of
the
women
who
just
spoke
and
I
also
appreciate
the
efforts
of
the
developer.
I
think
my
biggest
complaint
is
that
we're
starting
from
a
wrong
premise.
AC
AC
You'd,
see
the
whole
siminage
property
and
on
three
sides
of
the
property:
it's
clearly
yellow
r1c
property
and
now
tickets.
In
contrast
to
the
statements
I
made
about
the
previous
development,
where
it
was
surrounded
by
commercial
and
other
developments
and
other
features
that
could
have
accommodated
density,
this
partial
with
one
road
leaving
this
somewhat
landlocked,
probably
isn't
a
good
place
to
put
that's
development
and
I.
Think
if
you
go
back
here
to
the
base
of
it,
then
some
of
these
traffic
problems
would
be
mitigated.
AC
The
school
problems
would
be
mitigated
and
the
neighborhood
would
not
be
so
much
up
in
arms.
What
would
be
wrong
with
filling
this
with
r1c
homes,
homes
that
people
can
buy
and
people
can
grow
their
wealth
with
versus
a
property
that
is
now
said
to
be
oh
targeting
new
Micron
employees?
Well,
what
happened
to
family
housing
and
low-income
housing?
So
I
go
back
to
this
zoning
map.
AC
AC
Our
laws
say
our
infrastructure
should
be
there
and
it's
not,
and
what
would
also
be
wrong
with
taking
this
property
and
developing
it
in
smaller
Parcels,
then
they're
developing
it,
and
at
such
time,
when
it's
appropriate
when
there
is
infrastructure,
maybe
up
Zone
a
little
more
of
it,
but
right
now,
I
think
this
is
all
wrong
for
the
neighborhood
I'm,
sorry
for
the
developer,
who
has
done
such
a
lot
of
good
work?
Thank
you
very
much.
Thanks.
L
Okay,
I
am
going
before
we
head
to
rebuttal.
Are
there
questions
for
staff.
F
I
think
the
neighborhood
brings
up
some
good
points.
We
have
required
off-site
mitigation
and
traffic
calming
plans
on
developments
much
smaller
than
this
Crescent
Rim,
Highlands,
Cove
and
others.
We
have
two
developments
here.
I
know
we're
only
considering
one
tonight.
Why
is
there
not
a
coordinated
safety
plan
that
includes
traffic
coming
and
a
complete,
rebuild
frankly
of
the
3
000
feet
of
Victory
Road
between
here
and
the
railroad
track.
AE
Madam
mayor
president,
the
link
like
the
project-
you
know,
provided
the
Tis,
so
we
do
rely
on
that
to
inform
us
on
where
we
have
traffic
concerns.
There
were
I
mean
I,
think
Dave
pointed
out
those
intersections
that
were
identified
as
potential
mitigation,
where
we
could
add
some
turn
Lanes
do
some
extension
of
roadway
there.
However,
all
those
identified
intersections,
we
were
determined
by
achd
to
a
not
have
enough
right-of-way
and
B
to
not
trigger
mitigation
based
on
the
amount
of
traffic.
This
project
would
be
generating
towards
that
2024
build
out.
AE
So
ultimately,
we
just
didn't
have
enough
there
of
it
existing
right
away
to
improve
some
of
those
and
be
there
just
wasn't
enough
I
believe
it's.
You
have
to
generate
at
least
10
percent
of
that
traffic
for
us
to
require
that
off-site
mitigation
or
for
achd
to
require
the
off-site
mitigation
as
far
as
the
overall
coordinated
traffic
plan
or
safety
plan
that
hasn't
been
something
we've
looked
at,
but
would
definitely
take
direction.
If
that's
something
the
council
would
like
so.
AE
I
You
know
my
experience
with
this
road
is
pretty
consistent
with
the
neighbors
I.
Don't
understand
how
7
000
more
trips
fits,
especially
going
through
the
connection
at
Federal,
Way
I
understand
we're
looking
at
this
proposal,
which
is
25
or
2600
trips,
and
maybe
this
maybe
you
don't
know
the
answer,
this
question
but
like
if
achd
tells
me
it's
fine,
do
I
have
to
believe
them
like
do
I
have
to
take
that
or
could
I
second
guess
that,
like
what
like,
what
are
the?
What
are
the
actual
rules
that
I'm
supposed
to
follow?.
AE
I'm
happy
to
direct
comments,
or
you
know,
go
back
to
achd
to
have
a
larger
conversation.
Maybe
if
the
tis
numbers
don't
speak
to
it,
but
we
know
that
there's
an
overall
larger
problem
having
a
conversation
outside
of
kind
of
the
reports
and
data
that
we
have
might
be
appropriate.
I
It's
it's
really
challenging
I!
Think
for
everybody
in
the
valley
that
we
have
two
different
jurisdictions
and
it's
frustrating
and
I
didn't
mean
to
apply
or
direct
any
of
that
frustration
towards
you.
So
I
apologize,
I!
It's
it's
just
I!
Don't
know
what
to
do
when
I
get
something
from
achd
that
conflicts
with
my
impressions.
AF
K
Ahead,
I
I'm
gonna
build
on
that
question,
and-
and
this
is
so
reminiscent
of
what
we
did
just
a.
I
K
AE
Madam
mayor
council,
member
Willits,
what
I
can
point
to
is
that
with
this
project
they
are
providing
those
improvements
along
the
Frontage
that
their
property
touches
on
Victory.
AE
We
did
explore
that
railroad
crossing
with
with
the
extent
and
cost
that
would
be
quite
an
expensive
project
and
require
immense
coordination
with
a
railroad
as
well
as
achd
and
is
off-site
and
was
not
identified
in
our
tis
to
require
mitigation.
So
we
felt
that
that
was
a
really
big
stretch
to
come
up
with
a
Nexus
of
this
project
has
proportionality
to
improve
that
existing
condition.
AE
K
B
K
K
F
F
It
it
so
they
have
the
master
streets
map
and
they
have
a
variety
of
things
identified
pre-development
and
then
you
have
a
development
and
you
know
what
does
it
trigger
and
frankly,
I
do
think
we
have.
This
is
a
reason.
A
rezone
is
not
a
right.
It's
a
privilege.
We
don't
have
to
rezone
this.
Yes,
it
meets
our
comprehensive
plan
goals,
but
in
doing
that
reason
we
can
require
mitigation
that
we
believe
mitigates
the
impacts
that
the
rezone
will
have
on
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
F
It's
really
difficult
in
this
position,
I
think,
because
we've
got
two
developments,
side
by
side
and
so
I
guess.
My
question
for
legal,
perhaps
is
what
is
what
is
our
options
in
terms
of
requiring
proportionate
mitigation
by
the
two
developments
to
address
the
safety
issues
that
we've
been
hearing
about
and
I?
Don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
B
That's
something
that
looks
as
though
Rob
would
need
to
do
some
looking
into
that
before.
He
could
make
a
determination
on
that.
Thank.
B
X
Then
mayor
so
another
question
along
the
same
lines,
but
I'm
gonna
maybe
make
a
request.
X
That
was
really
helpful
for
me
when
I
first
started
on
City
Council
on
a
lot
of
big
decisions
like
these
ones,
we
had
Ryan
head
tuning
in
to
a
lot
of
the
conversations
I,
don't
know
why
I
don't
know
that
he
was
required
to
if
we
asked
him
to,
but
it
was
very
very
helpful
to
be
able
to
ask
these
questions
and
he
was
there
all
the
time,
and
so
that
was
extremely
helpful
to
kind
of
understand
these,
because
the
question
that
I'm
going
to
ask
you
now
is
probably
going
to
be
difficult
for
you
that
to
answer
but
but
maybe
they
would
be
as
we
know
that
this
is
in
the
five-year
work
plan
for
the
road.
AE
Madame
mayor
council,
member
Holly,
Burton
I,
wanted
to
speak
to
your
first
comment
regarding
having
that
achd
liaison.
That
is
something
we're
looking
to
bring
back
so
we've
had
initial
contact
with
achd,
as
of
now
they're,
not
quite
staffed,
but
there
might
be
some
special
requests,
for
instance
a
larger
project
where
we
could
invite
them
to
attend
these
meetings.
So
just
want
to
let
you
know,
staff
is
looking
into
bringing
that
I
think
it
went
away
with
the
pandemic
and
we're
trying
to
bring
that
back.
Awesome.
AE
Yes,
so
the
The
Five-Year
work
plan
piece
that
the
details
that
I'm
aware
of
at
this
point
are
the
railroad
crossing.
They
are
showing
pedestrian
gapping,
The,
Pedestrian
piece
there,
so
not
so
much
Road,
Improvement
or
widening,
but
what
we
saw
in
their
five-year
work
plan
was
five
to
seven
foot
wide
attached
sidewalk
going
over
that
Crossing,
so
I
can't
really
speak
more
to
the
design
other
than
it
would
be
seeing
pedestrian
connection
over
that
sidewalk,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
there
would
be
any
additional
Street
improvement
with
the
crossing
I'm.
X
Very
impressed
that
you
remember
that
much
about
just
the
railroad
itself
and-
and
you
don't
do
you
remember
anything
else
as
far
as
the
Victory
Road
treatment
and
The
Five-Year
Plan,
there
kind
of
gets
to
a
weird
stub
when
it
runs
into
Federal
Way.
That
looks
like
there's.
Probably
if
I
was
making
a
Five-Year
Plan,
there
would
be
a
connection
there
and
there'd
be
bike
Lanes
in
other
spots,
but
how
you
may
not
know
all
those
details.
AE
Yeah
Madame
mayor
councilmember,
Holly,
Burton
I,
don't
know
the
remaining
details
of
the
five-year
work
plan,
but
would
be
happy
to
kind
of
address
this
with
our
transportation
planner
who's
a
little
more
in
tune
with
what's
happening
with
those
plans.
Perfect.
X
Thank
you
so
much
and
I
guess
Matt
Amir
to
what
council
member
Clegg
was
trying
to
figure
out
a
second
ago
as
far
as
what
would
be
proportionate,
I,
don't
know
what
that
is.
If
I
don't
know
exactly
what's
proposed
in
that
plan,.
F
If
I
could
ask
one
more
question
of
Delaney,
what,
when
is
the
other
development
scheduled
to
come
before
us.
X
Yeah
I
won't
ask
this
of
staff,
but
I
would
ask
that
when
the
applicant
follows
up
that
they
address
any
conversations
that
were
about
a
raised
Crossing
either
going
into
the
neighborhood
or
across
the
street.
T
L
AG
Thank
you
Madame
mayor
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Natasha
Tully
and
I
live
at
2750
West
Palouse
Street
I
do
frequent.
Victory
Road
is
a
connection
point
to
Federal,
Way
and
I
am
concerned.
As
a
citizen
about
the
traffic
impacts,
I
have
ridden
my
bike
on
that
road
over
that
railroad
crossing
and
it
is
dangerous.
AG
I
will
say
that
the
developer
has
done
a
really
nice
job
of
creating
a
very
lovely
community
in
that
space.
The
amenities
that
are
provided,
such
as
bike
lanes
and
pedestrian
sidewalks,
are
great
for
that
area,
but
do
not
provide
that
connectivity
to
those
community
centers
that
we
talk
about,
such
as
the
Fred
Meyer
shopping
center
up
at
Federal,
Way
or
the
Albertsons
down
on
Vista.
AG
It
is
problematic
and
when
we're
planning,
as
you
guys
know,
because
you
do
the
hard
work
we
want
to
look
at
it
holistically
and
how
it
impacts
our
neighborhoods,
not
just
jamming
in
complex
after
complex,
but
what
makes
the
community
work
and
the
traffic
is
is
the
number
one
concern
along
with
the
safety
I
know,
I'm
sure
I
have
plenty
of
time
left,
but
I
appreciate
you
guys
listening
to
me
and
and
thank
you
for
staying
well
after
the
nine
o'clock
hour.
S
Thank
you,
mayor
and
council
members,
obviously
we'll
focus
on
traffic
issues
and
I
appreciate
the
discussion.
I
mean
and
certainly
appreciate
the
comments
from
the
neighborhood
association.
They
have
larger
issues
they've
said
repeatedly
in
their
testimony
and
to
us
that
they,
like
the
development
they're
concerned
about
a
larger
infrastructure
issue
here
and
so
I
want
to
try
to
address
that.
I
mean
it's
this.
S
A
lot
of
this
is
you
know
these
are
existing
conditions
or
not,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
talking
about
the
same
facts,
because
we
we
did
a
traffic
study.
It
did
take
into
account
the
entire
development
to
our
East,
and
so
you
know
councilmember
Clegg
you
asked
about
it.
Is
there
a
coordinated
effort
here?
Well,
at
least
on
the
studying
it
does
have
to
take
into
account
the
pipeline
projects,
and
that
was
included
and
with
those
trips
considered
a.
S
Madame
mayor
council,
member
of
agent-
yes,
they
will
have
their
own
traffic
study
because
they
have
enough
units
to
qualify
to
have
to
have
a
traffic
study.
However,
achd
requires
our
traffic
study
to
take
into
account
pipeline
projects
and
because
that
was
already
a
known
application.
We
had
to
consider
their
trips
in
our
application,
so.
S
Okay,
yes,
and
so
when
we
have
the
conclusion
of
our
traffic
impact,
study
and
achd's
Report,
saying
that
all
of
the
roadways-
that's
Victory,
Annette
and
Malad.
All
of
the
roadway
segments
that
were
discussed
by
Mr
Kangas
all
meet
levels
of
service
with
all
of
those
trips,
all
of
the
intersections
total
intersection
operations,
all
of
them
with
all
of
these
trips
in
all
of
these
areas
and
all
the
intersections
that
were
identified
by
Mr
Kangas,
were
studied
and
meet
full
levels
of
service.
S
The
identification
in
Delaney
mentioned
this
in
her
comments
and
and
so
did,
Mr
Kangas.
So
there
were
some
I
achg
requires
you
to
do
turn
lane
warrant
analysis.
Every
time
you
have
an
intersection
that
stopped
to
see
if
there
should
be
additional
term
lives
to
see
what
should
happen
there.
Even
if
you
meet
levels
of
service
they
just
have
you
do
that
and
so
and
they
look.
S
You
also
look
at
95th
percentile,
queuing
analyzes
and
the
various
little
identification
points
were
all
addressed,
and
so
one
of
them
Mr
King
has
mentioned,
was
turning
left
onto
Vista
and
maybe
Delaney.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
bringing
up
that
transportation
map,
it
would
help
from
Canal
Street.
It
was
identified
that
in
the
95th
percentile
thing
that
it
extends
past
the
storage.
S
However,
the
queuing
does
not
extend
back
to
the
number
two
red
circle,
which
is
where
Victory
intersects
with
canal,
and
so
it
wasn't
considered
to
be
a
problem
and
that's
with
all
of
these
trips
another
one
that
Mr
King
has
mentioned
was
the
right
turn
lane
he
mentioned
it
was
a
Malad,
but
it's
actually
the
victory
intersection
with
Federal
Way
triggered
a
turn.
Lane
warrant
analysis
there
for
I
believe
it
was
PMP.
It
was
one
of
the
AM
or
PM
Peaks.
S
However,
we
are
at
that
intersection
at
Victory
in
Federal,
Way,
We,
Are,
1.3
percent
of
the
trips
in
the
AM
and
one
percent
in
the
PM,
and
that
is
our
pre-existing
problem,
and
so
we
didn't
trigger
any
additional
mitigation,
nor
did
Nora's
achd
interested
in
putting
a
trend
Lane
into
Federal
Way
in
that
location
or-
and
there
was
not
right-of-way
available.
So
it
was
carefully
analyzed.
S
We
are
a
tiny
percentage,
a
third
one
that
I,
don't
believe
was
mentioned,
but
it's
the
only
other
trigger
that
was
mentioned,
that
the
study
that
had
any
consideration
of
whether
something
else
should
be
done
was
at
the
the
corner
of
canal
and
victory.
The
number
two
where,
when
you're
turning
right,
you
come
off
of
a
Vista
you're
on
Canal,
then
you're
going
to
turn
right
to
go
down
towards
these
developments.
There
was
a
trigger
for
a
right
turn
lane.
S
However,
the
study
and
achd
agreed
that
most
of
the
traffic
80
percent
of
the
traffic
is
actually
turning
right
there,
and
so
there
isn't
a
benefit
of
adding
internally,
that's
actually
counterproductive,
and
so
all
of
this
was
studied.
These
roads
have
capacity.
Commissioner
Danley
even
commented
at
the,
and
you
know
he's
he
likes
to
talk
about
traffic
at
the
commission
hearing.
He
said
the
traffic
counts
on
Victory
that
were
taken
in
February
of
this
year
averaged
2500
trips
a
day.
S
A
two-lane
road
at
capacity
is
about
eight
thousand,
so
truthfully
there's
capacity
on
this
roadway,
so
we're
not
talking
about
capacity
problems.
These
roads
are
built
for
this
development
and
your
plan
calls
for
this
level
of
intensive
development
or
more
intensive
zones
here.
So
the
the
issue
is
that
you're
identifying
and
that
the
neighbors
are
particularly
concerned
about
are
our
safety
with
speeding,
and
we
appreciate
the
comments
about
adding
working
with
achd
on
the
bulb
outs.
I
think
that's
a
great
suggestion.
S
We
have
already
proactively
since
the
commission
hearing
reached
out
to
achd,
as
has
your
staff,
to
talk
about
a
crosswalk
to
see
what
we
can
do
there
and
the
developers
support
above
that
effort,
and
so
the
the
issues
that
it's
not
a
capacity
roadway
build.
It's
a.
How
do
you
facilitate
pedestrian
and
bike
traffic
around
here?
S
The
the
pictures
that
are
shown
to
say
and
and
council
member
willitsu
commented,
we've
seen
the
pictures,
those
are
underdeveloped
streets,
we
are
going
to
widen
the
street
and
add
a
bike
lane,
and
so
yes,
you
can't
walk
safely
along
that
you
need
a
bike
lane.
You
need
a
detached
sidewalk,
and
that
is
what
these
developments
are
bringing
here
and
that
will
help
complete
this
area.
It
is
part
of
infield
that
this
is
what
happens
when
you
have.
You
know
the
development
comes
in
and
helps
to
improve.
S
X
Ahead,
I'll
start
with
the
question
that
I
kind
of
already
asked
in
the
conversations
with
achg.
Has
there
been
anything
discussed
about
that
crosswalk
being
a
raised
crosswalk.
X
AF
Madam
mayor
council,
councilman,
Adam,
Burton
you're
correct,
because
cars
typically
got
to
slow
down
before
those.
In
my
talks
with
achd,
we
just
discussed
pedestrian
safety
and
we
mentioned
that
we
would
be
interested
in
very
interested
in
helping
create
any
pressure
safety
in
this
area.
We
didn't
talk
about
specifics.
They
said
they're
going
to
go
and
do
their
investigations
we're
going
to
come
back
and
we're
going
to
brainstorm
and
come
up
with
a
solution.
Perfect.
X
Thank
you,
yeah
I
mean
certainly
race.
Cross
Hawks
are
going
to
be
one
potential
solution
to
slowing
down
some
traffic,
especially
as
they're
coming
around
that
curve.
My
second
question
and
I
think
I
know
the
answer
to
this
one
already.
So
when
they
did
the
traffic
analysis,
they
looked
at
intersections
one
two,
three
all
the
way
until
six
I
think
was
there.
Any
inclusion
of
increased
pedestrian
activity
needs
at
the
railroad
crossing.
X
But
so
the
question
is:
was
that
addressed
or
was
that
something
that
achd
brought
up
was
the
need
to
improve
that
because
it
increased
pedestrian
or
bicycle
activity.
S
Councilmember
I
have
more
to
add
on
what
staff's
direct
conversations
have
been,
that
Delaney
reported
back
about
that
that's
in
the
five-year
work
plan
and
that
sidewalks
are
added
there.
It's
not
directly
discussed
in
the
in
nachd's
report
to
my
knowledge
about
that.
There
are
alternate
routes,
of
course
around
that
that
it
was
expected
that
about
50
percent
from
vehicular
standpoint
would
go
up
Annette
to
Malad,
and
so
obviously
pedestrians
wander
neighborhoods
and
it's
great
to
have
sidewalks
on
all
streets
so
other
than
the
sidewalks
plan.
X
I
mean
if
I'm
a
pedestrian
or
a
bicyclist,
I'm
writing
straight
down
that
road
through
that
dead,
end
Victory
and
I'm,
using
the
crosswalk
to
get
over
Federal
Way,
because
it's
a
terrifying
Street
to
cross.
If
the,
if
one
of
those
intersections
based
off
the
traffic
impact
study,
would
have
called
for
an
additional
turn
lane
if
it
would
have
gotten
to
that
trigger
point,
what's
the
developer's
responsibility
in
helping
pay
for
that
additional
turn
lane.
S
However,
your
impact
fees
do
pay
for
that
in
the
in
this
form
of
you
know
that
that
is
how
they
calculate
proportionate
impacts,
so
that
everyone
on
a
house
by
house
unit
by
unit
basis
is
contributing
to
all
of
those
area,
improvements
that
are
needed
rather
than
having
one
developer
who's
the
last
one
in
that
triggers
it,
but
they
only
have
one
percent
of
the
trips
have
to
pay
for
that
Improvement.
They
do
it
proportionally
through
impact
fees.
S
If
you
are
more
than
10
so
you're
above
that
threshold
and
your
development
is
driving
the
need
for
that,
then
you
could
have
that
requirement
depending
on
a
numerous
conditions.
You
know
whether
there's
right-of-way
available,
if
they
think
it's
needed
for
a
safety
standpoint,
there's
a
lot
of
considerations.
Then.
F
So
yeah,
the
improvements
that
you
talked
about
are
only
in
front
on
Victory
in
front
of
your
own
development.
They're
not
off-site
is
that
correct.
F
Great
we'll
have
bike
lanes
for
800
feet
and
then
the
other
3
000
feet
won't
have
anything
and
you
get
to
the
railroad
crossing
you
can't
get
across
without
going
out
into
the
roadway,
essentially
yeah,
because,
okay,
so
the
2500
trips
are
coming
from
your
development.
That's
right!
There's
2500
trips!
Today
there's
going
to
be
5
000.
F
We
hear
from
the
other
development
so
close
to
10
000
trips
on
on
this
collector
roadway,
which
is
pushing
it
for
a
collector
Eighth
Street
gets
about
8
000
a
day,
so
I
guess
the
question
that
I
have
for.
You
seems
to
me.
We
really
do
need
a
comprehensive
solution
and
not
a
bits
and
pieces
one
which
is
what
we've
got
today.
F
I
I
know
it's
time,
but
it
seems
to
me
we're
going
to
hear
the
other
development
in
a
couple
of
months
and
we
should
take
that
time
to
really
look
at
a
comprehensive
solution
between
the
two
developments
that
address
the
questions
that
we've
heard
today
and
wonder
what
your
reaction
to
taking
that
time
would
be.
S
Madame
mayor
council
president,
thank
you
for
asking
and
letting
us
weigh
in
on
that
time.
Delay
is,
would
be
a
significant
burden
and
problem
for
this
development
based
on
the
way
they've
got
it
under
contract
and
and
I
would
suggest.
You're
in
a
different
I
mean
you're,
always
in
a
position
of
developing
Frontage
right
in
in
front
of
your
own
property
and
having
then
your
plans
and
achd's
designated
roadway
help.
You
piece
that
together,
but
with
this
one
that
where
you
have
an
adjacent
development,
that's
planned
and
they're.
S
Two
large
pieces
of
property,
I
think
you're
in
a
better
situation
than
you
usually
are
for
getting
a
comprehensive
plan
solution
here.
But
the
developer
has
committed,
as
I
said
at
the
outset,
to
continue
with
achd
and
the
adjoining
property
owner
to
collaborate
on
road
Crossings,
pedestrian,
Safety
Solutions.
But
if
I
mean
you
commented
earlier
that
you
thought
you
know,
the
Helen
Street
was
a
good
location
that
is
along
our
Frontage
and
I.
F
But
what
you're,
assuming
is
that
those
improvements
won't
be
offside
and
I.
Guess
what
I'm,
assuming
is
that
together
there
would
be
a
trigger
to
do
some
off-site
work
as
well
to
move
that
2026
Crossing
on
the
railroad
up
to
do
some
proportionally.
You
know
not
require
all
of
it
from
you,
but
it
would
give
us
time
to
figure
out
right
now.
There's
no
identified
route
to
the
school
one
would
assume
that
kids
will
walk
down
Columbus,
but
getting
to
Columbus
isn't
particularly
easy
and
nobody's
talked
about
how
to
get.
F
S
Not
mayor
council,
president
I
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
it's
I
don't
know
if
we
have
anything
different
to
offer,
but
I
I
think
that
that
is
I
mean
I.
I.
Don't
want
to
just
always
point
to
this
as
the
answer,
but
that
is
the
way
that
acht
calculates
impact
fees
is
to
have
those
off-site
improvements
paid
for
that
way,
but
I
think
also,
when
you've
got
something
that's
in
the
five-year
work
plan
for
these
sidewalks.
S
I
S
K
Mayor
I
had
a
question
for
Deb.
We've
heard
a
lot
of
information,
a
lot
of
concern
about
the
traffic
congestion
and
some
other
things.
Is
there
any
issue
that
the
neighborhood
brought
up
that
you
don't
believe
has
been
mitigated
by
what
you've
suggested?
S
Madam
mayor
council,
member
Willits,
so
Mr
Kangas
asked
for
the
protective
Road
crosswalk
across
Victory
we've
discussed
that
he
asked
for
a
light
at
Malad
and
victory.
I
understand
that
is
something
that
achd
has
looked
into,
adding
to
their
five-year
work
plan
for
to
study
a
signalization
there,
but
we
are
again
a
small
percentage
of
trips
at
that
intersection
and
it's
not
clear
that
that
will
even
be
warranted
anytime
soon.
I
would
suggest
that's
a
far
off-site
Improvement
that
does
not
proportionally
relate
to
this
development.
S
He
asked
for
no
parking
around
the
curb
on
Victory
Road
I.
Don't
know
that
we
have
any
objection
to
the
neighbors
concerns
about
that.
So
I
think
we've
I
believe
we've
addressed
his
comments,
but
the
neighborhood
association's
comments.
But
please,
let
me
know
if
you
have
others.
F
And
a
mirror,
no
I
I,
just
don't
feel
comfortable.
That
I
have
enough
information
to
know
if
what's
being
proposed
here
is
going
to
be
the
right
thing
or
enough.
G
F
But
my
inclination
is
to
move
to
defer
both
car
2014
and
SUV
2246
to
a
date
no
later
than
60
days
from
now,
and
one
would
assume
that
we
could
find
a
date
sooner
than
that
where
we
could
and
have
in
the
meantime,
have
staff
develop
a
more
comprehensive
idea
about
what
the
traffic
mitigation
will
be
between
the
two
developments.
H
Can
I,
second
that
and
then
I'd
like
to
add
it's
not
the
traffic
that
I'm
worried
about.
It's
really
The
Pedestrian
safety
that
I'm
worried
about
what
is
it
going
to
look
like
for
bicyclists
and
pedestrians
on
this
street
once
you
have
so
many
more
people
who
are
expected
to
be
using
those
forms
of
transportation
to
get
around
it's
clear
from
the
traffic
study
and
the
numbers
that
the
cars
can
be
accounted
for
and
that
there's
plenty
of
capacity
for
the
cars?
H
H
The
sticky
part
of
this
is
that
yes,
you're
paying
impact
fees
to
achd,
but
they're
shipping,
those
impact
fees
out
to
Eagle,
to
expand
roads
and
Eagle,
not
make
beautiful
pedestrian
Crossings
at
railroad
crossings,
the
way
that
we
need
them
to
adjacent
to
development.
So
that
really
puts
us
in
a
sticky
spot
too.
So
I'm
going
to
support
the
motion,
and
hopefully
we
can
come
up
with
something
that
really
addresses
the
concerns
of
pedestrian
and
bike
safety.
X
Madam
Mary
a
question
for
the
the
motion
maker.
What
do
we
can
you
outline
kind
of
what
you
hope
we
can
accomplish
in
the
next
60
days
to
hopefully
get
a
different
result
than
where
we're
at
right
now
and.
I
X
Also
at
part
of
that
like,
if
you
think
we
can
get
a
result,
can
we
get
it
sooner
than
60
days?
60
days
is
a
long
period
of
time.
I
realize
we're
about
to
go
on
holiday,
break
which
is
tough,
but
so
is
two
months
when
you've
got
a
project,
that's
waiting
to
get
started.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
two
things
that
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
Are
we
going
to
get
to
the
same
spot
and
can
we
get
to
that
same
spot
sooner.
F
Sure,
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
that
I
guess
what
I
hope
to
accomplish
is
that
we
will
know
what
the
traffic
impact
from
the
adjacent
development
is
and
that
together,
although
the
traffic
impact
is
supposedly
taking
that
into
account
as
I
read
the
traffic
impact
study,
I
didn't
see
that
I
didn't
see
how
it
was
taken
into
account,
and
that
would
give
staff
and
us
and
achd
time
to
look
at
it
more
comprehensively
and
understand.
Yes,
in
this
case,
HD
is
asking
the
developer
to
improve
Victory
just
in
front
of
their
development.
F
Is
that
also
going
to
be
their
response
with
the
adjacent
development,
or
in
that
case,
are
they
going
to
be
asking
for
some
off-site
mitigation
if
they're,
if
they
are?
What
is
that
going
to
be,
and
what
are
the
triggers
that
say
that
you
can
do
that?
We
have
required
off-site
mitigation
in
much
smaller
developments
than
this,
and
so
I
I'm
puzzled.
X
F
Set
a
maximum
of
60
days
because
our
with
the
holidays
coming
up
our
schedule
and
the
time
I
don't
know
when
it
could
fit.
F
One
would
hope
we'd
get
it
sooner
than
that,
but
long
enough
to
get
some
answers
so
that
when
we
do
come
back
to
it,
we
we
have
some
answers
that
we
can.
We
can
bring
to
the
table.
Thank.
X
K
I
was
Madame
mayor
I
was
going
to
follow
up
on
that
same
line
of
questioning
from
councilmember
Hallie
Burton
council
president.
Do
you
think
we
could
do
it
in
45
days?
I
mean?
Do
you
think
I
think
if
we
say
60
days,
it'll
take
60
days
and
I'm
really
concerned
that
we're
holding
up
a
development
on
things
that
we
need
to
understand,
but
there
is
a
cost
to
that.
So
I'm
wondering
if
you
think
we
can.
We
could
shave
any
time
off
of
that
I'm.
B
B
AE
Madame
mayor,
if
I
may
I
believe
January
10th,
we
have
quite
a
few
items
already
on
the
docket.
So
I
just
want
to
make
note
if
this
is
going
to
take
a
significant.
AC
F
Matter,
mayor,
I,
I
appreciate
what
you're
trying
trying
to
do
and
I
appreciate
the
council
members
questions
I,
guess
frankly,
in
this
Financial
atmosphere
the
I'm
not
as
concerned
about
the
delay,
maybe
I'm
being
Cavalier
about
that
I.
Don't
think
I
am
to
be
honest.
F
F
I
I
feel
a
little
stuck
because
I
don't
totally
understand
why
the
traffic
studies
say
what
they
said,
but
they
did
the
applicant.
In
my,
in
my
mind,
has
you
know?
I
They've
come
to
us
and
they've
met
all
of
their
obligations
to
us
for
this
rezone
and
this
development
of
358
units-
and
you
know
we
aren't
coordinated
enough
to
have
a
Clear
Vision
for
what
we
want
on
the
street
and
and
we
don't
have
a
clear
enough
picture
but
I'm
not
sure
why
they
bear
the
burden
of
that,
particularly
when
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
it
again
with
the
property
of
the
East
very
soon
so
I
won't
be
supporting
the
motion
because
I
in
my
view,
they
should
be
able
to
go
forward
now.
X
X
You
and
then
she
didn't,
but
while
she's
thinking
about
it,
I'll
I'm
gonna,
add
something
here:
I,
don't
know
what
the
five-year
work
plan
looks
like
for
this
particular
Street
and
I.
Don't
know
where
we're
at
in
the
five-year
work
plan
for
this
particular
Street.
It
makes
it
extremely
hard
to
know
what's
going
to
happen
when
we've
got
a
city
in
achd
who
have
different
plans
that
we're
trying
to
organize
and
figure
out.
X
That's
why
it
would
be
so
nice
if
Ryan
had
or
someone
from
achie
it's
not
his
job
anymore,
but
someone
from
AC
achg
was
here
to
help
answer
some
of
those
questions
to
know
the
specific
things
that
we
would
be
asking
of
the
developer.
If
we
were
looking
at
off-site
and
so
I
think
that
I'm
going
to
support
the
motion,
but
I
I
think
part
of
that
discussion
has
to
be
with
achd
is
what
is
in
The
Five-Year
Plan?
X
What
exactly
does
that
Five-Year
Plan
look
like
and
where
are
we
at
in
implementing
this
aspect
of
The
Five-Year
Plan,
because
if
it
was
two
years
away
three
years
away,
I
would
probably
approve
this
plan
right
now,
as
is
because
I
would
know
that
there
would
be
a
very
small
Gap
in
the
time
that
these
things
wouldn't
be
here.
If
it's
going
to
be
five
years
down
the
road,
if
it's
going
to
be
further
down
the
road,
then
that
makes
it
a
lot
harder.
X
X
That's
actually
in
my
own
neighborhood
the
amount
of
cars
that
are
going
down,
Bogus,
Basin,
Road,
two-lane,
road
or
8th,
Street
or
15th
Street,
some
of
these
other
ones,
but
it
doesn't
take
into
account
the
amount
of
people
that
are
going
to
be
walking
or
biking
across
a
railroad
where
there's
kind
of
like
a
eight
foot
cliff
on
each
side
of
it
and
no
way
to
get
around.
If
you
are
in
a
wheelchair.
X
You
know
with
achd
as
well
is
when
we're
doing
these
traffic
impact
studies.
Why
is
this
not
evaluated
the
fact
that
200
people
are
going
to
be
walking
across
something
that's
extremely
dangerous
and
problematic.
L
F
If
I
could
respond
to
that,
because
I
was
going
to
add
more
to
the
motion,
I
got
the
second
and
we
started
discussion.
What
I
was
going
to
add
is
that
during
that
time,
we
would
ask
achg
and
I
did
look
at
their
five-year
work
plan.
There's
a
proposal
to
improve
the
railroad
crossing
both
on
Victory
and
on
Malad
in
2026.
Both
of
those
are
planned
in
the
five-year
work
plan
for
about
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
piece.
F
So
we
have
pretty
good
idea
four
years
from
now,
what
they're
planning
to
do?
What
I
was
going
to
ask
for
in
the
time
between
now
and
when
we
defer
this?
To
is
that
we
ask
HD
to
identify
what
are
The,
Pedestrian
and
bicycle
needs
and
projections
for
this,
and
not
just
the
traffic
projections.
K
Mayor
this
is
it's
November,
but
it
feels
like
Groundhog
Day
in
my
short
time
here
it
seems
like
every
development
that
comes
up.
We
have
this
conversation
about
traffic,
whether
it's
car,
whether
it's
pedestrian,
bicycle
whatever
it
is,
and
it
just
plays
over
and
over
and
over
again-
and
it's
not
the
developer's
fault
they
brought
they've
brought
a
beautiful
project.
K
It's
going
to
be
great,
and
yet
we
go
through
this,
so
I'm
going
to
say
something
quite
bold,
I
I
think
it's
time
that
we
have
a
very
serious
conversation
about
Boise
owning
its
roads.
I
mean
this
is
this
is
insane.
This
is
ridiculous
to
me
we're
going
to
continue
this
bureaucratic
nightmare
until
we
get
something
different
and
I.
Don't
see
this
changing
and
I
think
it
just
adds
to
confusion
and
I
frankly,
I
think
most
people
are
quite
confused,
that
we
don't
have
that
control
anyway.
N
Madam
mayor,
thank
you,
madam
mayor.
Thank
you
Lucy
for
seeing
that
I
I
think
there
there
are
two
parties
suffering
here.
I
I
think
it's
correct.
You
know
we
have
people
who
did
their
their
part,
but
we
there's
the
reality
of
it's
real
people
who
are
going
to
be
dealing
with
this
influx
of
more
people
on
a
road
that,
quite
honestly,
I've
ridden
a
bike
on
that
believe
it
or
not.
N
It
was
like
10
years
ago,
I
was
running
with
a
different
crowd
back
then,
but
I
I
rode
a
bike
on
on
that
road
and
and
I
avoid
that
road
in
my
car,
because
it
does
scare
me
that
little
that
drop
off
you
know
at
the
railroad
crossing.
So
you
know
it's
hard
to
not
take
that
into
consideration,
just
your
own
feeling
of
not
being
safe
in
that
environment
and-
and
that's
now
before
we
have
an
influx
of
folks.
N
So
I
agree
with
the
majority
of
my
colleagues
that
we
we
need
to
get
some
more
information,
even
though
it
it
feels
like
we
have
it
right
now
in
terms
of
the
safety,
but
to
have
it
in
black
and
white.
For
the
benefit
of
the
community,
I
think
would
be
important,
so
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion
as
well.
B
All
right
with
that
clerk
will
you
call
the
roll.
G
B
Right
and
I'd
ask
in
addition
to
the
council
president's
list
of
things
we'd
like
from
achd
that
we
look
at
whether
or
not
we
can
discuss
the
five-year
work
plan
and
at
the
work
session
that
day,
if
it's
going
to
be
long
a
long
day.
So
some
coordination
Amanda.
B
If
you
could
take
that
back,
I'm
on
what
the
work
session
looks
like
that
day
and
because
this
is
a
larger,
more
comprehensive,
I'm
separate
from
the
development
topic.
But
the
achd
five-year
work
plan
and
pedestrian
safety
and
needs
I
think
that's
appropriate
and
then
that
would
make
sure
that
achd
is
with
us
for
the
evening
which
we
would
like
them
to
be
for
the
next
step
of
this
right
and
with
that
I'll,
take
a
motion
to
adjourn
Madam.