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From YouTube: Boise City Council - Work Session
Description
February 1, 2022
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There
are
recommendations
that
have
been
brought
forward
to
help
us
meet
our
goals
of
truly
being
a
city
for
everyone.
So
as
we
look
internally
at
what
we
need
to
do
externally
within
the
community,
what
we
ought
to
do
to
ensure
that
everybody
can
participate
fully
and
really
looking
forward
to
the
report
and
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
group
of
residents
that
really
put
together
great
recommendations
for
us
to
think
about
how
we
move
forward
to
the
city.
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Right,
madam
mayor
and
city
council
members
today,
I
will
be
covering
more
information
regarding
our
disability
task
force,
progress,
we've
accomplished
so
far,
and
what
steps
we
are
taking
regarding
their
recommendations
to
be
inclusive.
I've
arranged
asl
interpretation
for
our
deaf
and
hard
of
hearing
community
members.
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I've
witnessed
and
heard
this
and
watching
folks
who
use
a
wheelchair,
accessible
van
tried
to
park
just
right,
so
their
ramp
didn't
hit
the
tree
or
luminaire
stationed
in
the
access
aisle
on
the
sidewalk
pds
staff
introduced
the
scope
of
the
rewrite
project
to
the
task
force
in
november
draft
module
2
codes
were
recently
released.
The
task
force
will
reconvene
with
pds
staff
to
provide
specific
recommendations
later
this
month
as
part
of
the
project's
community
engagement.
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The
structure
and
content
of
the
website
are
still
in
the
planning
stage.
Parks
and
rec
staff
have
begun.
Compiling
information
from
parks
such
as
the
accessible
beach
entrance
to
esterson
plot
pond
accessible
play
equipment
and
fall
material
at
our
playgrounds,
ada
parking,
accessible
picnic
tables
and
more,
they
hope
to
have
a
draft
of
their
department
resources
by
the
end
of
this
month.
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On
this
slide
is
a
picture
of
a
man
traveling
down
the
green
belt
in
early
fall
riding
in
a
seated
three-wheel
cycle.
In
conversations
with
the
task
force
and
in
my
work
investigating
complaints,
disability
etiquette
often
comes
up.
This
recommendation
is
still
in
planning
stages,
as
we
map
out
a
strategy
to
encompass
all
our
community
members
and
businesses.
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In
this
educational
campaign,
specific
issues
raised
by
task
force
members
regarding
this
recommendation
included
difficulties
with
e-scooters,
both
in
parking
and
high
speeds.
Lack
of
community
knowledge
regarding
navigation
needs
for
those
with
disabilities,
general
trail
etiquette
and
keeping
pathways
like
sidewalks
clear.
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In
speaking
with
our
energizer
neighborhoods
program
manager,
we
would
like
to
allocate
five
thousand
dollars
for
accommodations
as
a
starting
point.
This
accommodations
fund
could
be
used
for
effective
communication
for
people
with
disabilities,
as
well
as
interpretation
and
translation
for
spoken
languages.
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Vrt
currently
operates
the
access,
bus
system
and
taxi
script.
The
system
is
in
high
demand
with
the
community
as
a
service
with
supporting
operations
already
existing.
I
recently
met
with
vrt's
operations
director
to
further
discuss
the
possibility
of
expanding
their
existing
services
and
how
we
might
partner
in
this
work,
given
no
immediate
solutions
are
present,
staff
will
continue
will
continue
to
explore
partnerships
and
possible
ways
to
support
the
creation
of
accessible,
on-demand
transportation.
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They
could
as
well
it's
all
about
information
ahead
of
time
and
options
for
someone
who
uses
a
wheelchair
for
mobility.
Thick
sand
can
be
discouraging,
such
as
the
bottom
right
picture.
A
picture
of
dana
with
two
women
immobilized
on
a
sandy
trail
near
camel's
back
in
speaking
with
rich
de
rivers
staff.
We
would
like
to
pilot
accessibility
in
some
trails
in
the
military
reserve
area.
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Spanning
the
width
of
the
slide
is
a
screenshot
of
the
updated
ridge
to
rivers
website
detailing
accessible
trail
options,
staff
have
begun
the
remodel
and
improvements
to
the
ridge
to
rivers,
accessible
trails
website,
page
I've
screenshotted
a
portion
of
the
live
page
here,
we've
broken
down
trails
by
location
added
in
parking
information,
even
if
we
don't
currently
have
ada
parking
at
that
trailhead
created
more
robust
trail
descriptions
added.
Some
pictures
of
specific
trails
identified,
lengths
of
trails,
slope
grade
approximation,
surface
material
and
more
to
give
folks
dignity
of
choice.
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Staff
training
was
determined
as
a
lease
priority
recommendation
as
a
task
force
understands
the
broad
needs
this
entails
and
it
being
an
evolving
target.
Two
trainings
have
and
will
take
place
soon,
posting
accessible
social
media
content,
specifically
for
those
who
use
screen
readers
and
an
introduction
to
website
accessibility.
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Both
trainings
will
be
recorded
to
house
as
additional
resources
for
all
current
and
future
staff.
This
recommendation
is
perfect
to
couple
with
my
other
work
in
creating
our
ada
transition
plan.
A
holistic
approach
to
staff
training
will
be
organized
and
cover
a
wide
variety
of
topics
such
as
disability
etiquette,
how
to
arrange
accommodations
training,
our
first
responders
for
best
practices
and
assisting
people
with
disabilities
in
an
emergency
or
traffic,
stop.
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Madam
mayor
and
council
member
holly
whittings
excuse
me
yes,
great
question:
the
projects
were
given
to
pds
and
then
with
zac
pete
meyer's
departure.
It
really
and
then
coveted
it
kind
of
sat
right
now,
I'm
working
with
staff
to
find
a
project
manager
for
that
particular
plan,
because
it
is
pretty
robust
and
would
require
a
lot
of
partners.
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Most
of
them
are
one
human
operators,
drivers,
managers
and
owners
they're
having
a
tough
time
finding
enough
business
with
their
car
right
now,
let
alone
operating
an
additional
van.
A
wheelchair,
accessible
van
can
only
house
two
to
three
people
tops
versus
their
current
vehicle.
They
might
be
able
to
get
six
so
as
much
as
some
of
them
really
felt.
For
us,
it
was
a
tough
business
case
for
them
and
they're
trying
to
survive
right
now.
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So
as
far
as
other
cities,
I
learned
yesterday
that-
and
this
just
isn't
the
case
for
us-
we
don't
have
a
big
taxi
company.
I
think
jamie
probably
knows
too,
but
most
of
them
are
one
to
two
car
operations
that
we
only
have,
maybe
one
that
has
more
than
10
vehicles.
Other
cities
have
code.
If
you
operate
more
than
10
a
certain
percentage
of
those
need
to
be
accessible
fans,
so
that's
something
we
could,
but
in
our
city
we
just
don't
have
that
big
of
a
operation
right
now.
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Council
member
haliburton
again
yeah.
I
appreciate
the
explanation.
There
was
kind
of
wondering
you
know
what
what
other
folks
were
doing
and
what
sort
of
the
difference
was
and
that
that
does
make
sense,
and
also
the
outline
that
you
had
in
the
memo
was
really
good
as
well.
My
second
question
is,
with
the
trail,
accessibility
and
understanding
that
there
are
certain
trails
that
we
already
have
that
are
that
are
better
than
others,
certain
ones
that
can
be
improved.
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I'm
wondering
if
the
task
force
is
asking
for
kind
of
accessible
trails
at
an
at
an
entry
level
like
at
our
parks,
or
are
they
also
asking
for
like
adapted
mountain
bike
trails?
I
know
that
we
have
non-profits
in
the
community
that
have
helped
build
them
around
soldier,
mountain
and
other
ski
resorts
sometimes
have
those
as
well.
Is
that
an
additional
ask,
or
is
it
more
of
the
entry
trails
from
the
parks.
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Knowing
that
disability
is
a
continuum,
somebody
in
a
wheelchair
needs
something
different
than
somebody
with
a
guide
dog
so
giving
options
right
now
we
have
some
that
are
maybe
more
friendly,
but
they're
not
looped.
A
lot
of
them
are
very
short,
so
for
some
folks
it
takes
two
hours
to
get
dressed,
ready
into
a
trail
just
to
have
a
10
minute,
walk
so
kind
of
having
more
loops,
better
parking,
but
just
more
entry
level
options.
Essentially
the
the
mountain
bike.
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Great
and
then,
madam
mayor,
just
the
final
comment,
there
boise
really
does
have
one
of
the
greatest
mountain
biking
systems
as
far
as
being
close
to
downtown
of
almost
any
city
across
the
country.
I'm
not
sure
if
we
do
have
any
specific
mountain
bike
trails
that
are
built
for
adapted
bikes.
I
could
be
wrong
in
that,
but
it
would
be
wonderful
to
make
sure
that
we
do
when
we're
looking
at
future
construction
of
trails.
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G
Willits
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
had
a
question
sierra
just
to
better
understand
when
you
talk
about,
and
I
really
really
like
this
phraseology
about
the
dignity
of
choice
in
terms
of
trails.
Are
you
talking
about
adapting
some
trails
or
doing
better
signage
so
that
folks
know
what
they're?
What
they're
about
to
experience?
Or
maybe
it's
both
educate
me
on
that.
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Not
the
mayor
councilmember.
Well,
it's
it's
a
little
bit
of
both
signage,
but
I
think
right
now
the
biggest
hurdle
we're
hitting
is
more
of
that
and
where
I
would
like
to
start
with
staff.
It's
wheelchair
accessible
trails.
It
does,
it
doesn't
mean
paving
them,
but
sloper
like
flatter
areas.
The
trail
mix
is
a
big
component,
so
large
chunky,
gravel
or,
as
you
saw
too
much
sand,
really
kind
of
impedes
folks,
so
having
a
shorter
little
bit
longer
option
infused
to
what
we
have
existing.
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Mayor,
yes,
go
ahead!
Thank
you.
Well,
thanks
for
this
presentation,
it's
great
to
get
this
update.
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
rideshare
question
and
just
make
you
aware
that
valley,
regional
transit
has
recently
contracted
with
a
organization
called
via
trance
via
transit,
and
they
are
a
ban,
focused
ride,
share
program,
and
I
wonder
if
it
might
offer
some
opportunities
for
us,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
that.
If
you
weren't
first
of
all
and
then
my
questions
are
this
twofold?
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Typically,
when
rock
is
added
to
a
trail,
we
think
of
it
as
gravel
and
gravel
is
typically
a
river
rolled
rock,
and
so
it's
rounded
doesn't
hold
together
very
well
aggregate
that
is
fractured,
can
be
fractured
in
many
different
sizes
and
compacted,
and
it
actually
stays
in
place.
So
I
don't
know
if
you've
explored
that,
but
I
do
know
that
a
couple
of
other
communities
around
the
state
are
working
to
do
some
of
that
compacted
fractured
small,
fractured
rock
on
some
of
their
trail
systems.
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Madam
mayor
and
council
member
craig,
so
the
five
thousand
dollars
for
effective,
effective
communication
accommodations
that
money
exists.
It's
just
a
matter
of
allocations
in
our
energizer
program
funding.
So
no
ask
for
additional
funds,
just
an
explanation
of
kind
of
where
we're
parsing
some
of
that
money
to.
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All
right
next
up,
we
have,
are
there
three
of
you
hey
there
I
saw
sarah
and
doug
coming
in
this
is
next
up.
We
have
the
pesticide
program
right,
great,
the
so
we've
we've
got
the
whole
parks
crew.
Here
right
now,
this
program
was
came
at
the
the
request
to
council
in
our
office
and
to
look
at
how
what
if
we
could
and
how
we
could
reduce
pesticide
usage
in
our
parks-
and
you
know
there
are-
there-
are
health
implications.
I
Yeah
absolutely
counts.
Are
madam
mayor
city,
council
yeah.
I
would
I
would
say
you
know
one
one
distinction
to
make
is
that
it
has
gone
well
and
it
is
still
going.
So
that's
what
I'll
talk
about
here
today,
but
thank
you
for
having
me
in
here
to
talk
about
our
efforts
on
pesticide
reduction.
I'm
I'm
really
excited
to
do
that.
I
It's
been
a
huge
project
for
me
over
the
last
two
years,
and
so
I'm
really
excited
about
the
way
it's
going
I'll
start
by
giving
you
an
overview
of
where
we've
been
with
the
pesticide
reduction
pilot
program.
So
that
is
a
program
that
we
started
in
2020
and
the
goal
of
that
program
was
to
identify
potential
reduction
routes
for
pesticides
at
a
handful
of
parks
that
we
chose
to
be
our
pilot
sites.
I
The
the
end
sort
of
vision
for
this
was
to
have
all
of
our
uses
at
at
those
sites,
be
defensible
justifiable
uses
that
are
grounded
in
the
latest
science
around
land
management.
Basically
so
it
was,
it
was
originally
started
as
a
two-year
program,
so
you're
right
and
thinking
that
we
would
be
culminating.
Now
this
last
year
we
made
the
decision
because
of
the
circumstances
surrounding
2020,
and
we
weren't
able
to
really
implement
everything
we
wanted
to
in
2020
because
of
staffing
issues
and
other
things
happening.
I
We
decided
to
extend
it
for
another
year,
so
we
would
have
been
making
changes,
maintenance
changes
and
implementing
different
cultural
methods
at
those
pilot
sites
over
the
growing
seasons
of
2020
and
2021
moving
into
policy
changes
at
the
end
of
2021
that
we
would
be
implementing
this
next
year.
We've
extended
that
for
another
year,
so
we
want
to
make
some
more
changes
to
our
maintenance
efforts
in
this
next
year.
Moving
into
policy
changes
at
the
end
of
the
growing
season
of
2022
that
will
be
implemented
in
2023.
I
So
this
is
a
map
showing
our
original
pilot
sites.
We
tried
really
hard
to
get
a
good
distribution,
both
geographically
across
the
city
and
get
all
of
our
different
land
uses
in
there.
So
we
we
we
achieved
that
pretty.
Well,
we
have
some
of
our
larger
sites
in
the
downtown
core.
We
have
a
lot
of
our
neighborhood
parks.
We
have
some
parks
and
sports
fields.
That
kind
of
thing
we
also
have
some
of
our
right-of-ways
pathways
down
here
on
the
bottom.
I
So
we
came
up
with
a
specific
plan
for
each
of
the
pilot
sites
you
can
see
in
here.
We
had
specific
chemical
chemicals
that
we
wanted
to
reduce
at
each
site,
along
with
sort
of
implementation
goals,
how
we
are
going
to
reduce
those
chemical
loads
on
the
site.
I
think
this
is
a
good
spot
to
sort
of
talk
about
the
fact
that
glyphosate
reduction
was
really
the
impetus
for
a
lot
of
this,
so
glyphosate
for
those
who
aren't
familiar
with
it
is
a
broad
spectrum.
Herbicide
and
it's
is.
I
You
know
we
could
just
swap
that
for
another
chemical
and
and
say:
okay,
we've
reduced
our
glyphosate
use
that
wasn't
what
we
felt
was
the
right
choice
in
this.
In
this
instance,
we
wanted
to
reduce
glyphosate
by
implementing
more
holistic
methods
in
our
parks,
thereby
reducing
our
entire
pesticide
applications
at
our
sites.
I
I
Sorry
about
that,
so
what
was
successful
and
what
was
not
successful
over
these
past
two
years,
I
would
say
our
glyphosate
reduction
was
very
successful
at
these
sites
we
basically
eliminated
glyphosate
from
all
of
the
pilot
sites.
We
had
one
site
in
particular
kumba
park
where,
where
we
ended
up
using
some
glyphosate
that
had
some
had
some
specific
things
and-
and
we
talked
about
that
a
lot
in
our
last
pesticide
use
report
for
2020..
I
Another
thing
to
note
is
our
2021
pesticide
use
report
is
available
now
and
we'll
be
including
that
in
a
friday
memo
soon,
but
most
pesticide
most
glyphosate
is
used
at
in
our
parks
around
tree
wells.
So
that's
the
bare
area
of
of
earth
around
trees
and
on
hard
surfaces
to
control
plant
material,
growing
up
in
cracks
and
sidewalks,
and
around
tennis
courts
and
things
we
we
swapped
for
weed
burning
for
for
burners
on
a
lot
of
the
hard
surfaces
and
in
our
tree
wells
we
just
allowed
those
to
grow
in.
I
We
didn't
see
any
reason
to
keep
this
just
at
our
pilot
site.
So
in
year,
two
we
swapped
to
a
different
chemical.
In
this
case
there
really
weren't
any
cultural
methods
that
we
can
employ.
So
we
swapped
to
a
different
chemical
chlorine
traniloprol,
which
we,
which
we
changed
to
entirely
last
year
in
2021,
so
we
used
down
all
of
our
medical,
upright
stock
switched
entirely
away
from
neonicotinoids
and
we'll
be
moving
forward.
Neonicotinoid
free
in
the
future
increased
mowing
heights.
I
I
put
that
in
kind
of
the
successful
and
unsuccessful
categories
at
many
of
our
sites,
like
on
our
turf
right-of-ways
at
some
of
our
outside
parks
and
in
some
sort
of
lesser-used
areas,
it
was
really
successful
and
I,
I
think,
we're
going
to
continue
and
expand
if
we
can,
but
when
we,
when
we
paired
that
with
lower
mowing
frequency,
it
led
to
an
an
unkempt
look
in
the
parks
that
really
wasn't
well
tolerated
by
by
the
public.
We
got
a
lot
of
feedback
on
that
part
of
that.
I
I
guess
I
should
also
explain.
The
reason
we
wanted
to
do.
This
is
is
twofold:
when
you,
when
you
do
that,
you,
you
increase
the
plant's
resources
to
really
make
those
deep
roots,
and
that's
has
the
effect
of
making
it
more
robust,
so
it
can
resist
the
invasion
of
other
species.
Better,
so
it
can
reduce
your
your
weed
pressure.
I
I
try
not
to
use
the
term
weed
anymore.
I've
been
called
out
on
that
a
few
times,
but
anyway
that's
and
it
also
makes
it
more
drought
resistant.
So
you
know
that's.
I
This
also
ties
in
really
heavily
with
our
water
use
reduction
that
we're
shooting
for
in
the
parks.
It's
it's
interesting,
it's
kind
of
a
give
and
take
between
water
use
and
pesticides.
A
lot
of
our
very
highly
water
watered
areas
require
less
pesticide
use,
where
our
lower
water
areas
have
more
bare
ground.
It's
it's
more
susceptible
to
invasion
by
invasive
species
plants
on
the
noxious
weed
list.
That
type
of
thing
that
we
need
to
use
pesticides
on
and,
lastly,
I
put
increased
fertilization
aeration.
I
should
have
put
overseeding
here
as
well.
I
The
only
reason
those
are
in
the
unsuccessful
categories
because
they
largely
weren't
able
to
be
implemented
in
the
pilot
program.
This
is
more
or
less
a
resource
issue.
Those
are
very
time
intensive
things
to
do
and
I
think,
without
a
larger,
systematic
shift
away
from
things
like
spraying
and
to
these
more
cultural
methods,
we
can't
meaningfully
implement
them,
but
in
this
year
three
I
I
really
want
to
trial
some
things
that
will
shed
some
light
on
on
how
much
time
that
will
take.
I
So
just
to
recap,
in
year
one
we
initialized
the
program
and
made
our
pesticide
reductions
and
maintenance
changes
at
the
pilot
sites.
In
year
two
we
continued
those
changes
and
reduced
our
neonicotinoid
use,
so
that
brings
us
to
this
year.
So
in
year
three,
I
guess
I
should
explain
this
first,
so
these
are
our
two
most
highly
used
chemicals
and-
and
this
is
stable
from
year
to
year.
These
numbers
are
specifically
from
last
year,
but
24d
and
glyphosate
make
up
anywhere
from
one
half
to
two-thirds
of
our
use
each
year.
I
I
We
have
from
the
previous
two
years
of
our
pilot
program.
We
have
some
really
good
methods.
I
think
that
we
can
use
to
reduce
our
glyphosate,
so
the
last
big
hurdle
is
that
2
4
d.
So
that's
what
I
really
want
to
focus
on
in
year
three,
and
in
order
to
see
what
type
of
time
savings
we
can
get
from
reducing
that
spraying,
that's,
I
would
like
to
implement
it
more
broadly
than
just
at
our
pilot
sites.
I
I
But
basically
we
would
take
all
of
our
applications
and
divide
them
into
aesthetic
and
non-aesthetic
applications.
So
aesthetic
applications
would
be
things
like,
like
spraying
for
dandelion,
something
that
is
just
done
to
achieve
a
certain
look
at
a
at
a
site
and
that
doesn't
have
really
any
functional
benefit
right.
So
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
with
public
health.
It
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
environmental
quality,
whereas
non-aesthetic
has
some
functional
benefit,
it
can
it.
It
is
used
to
preserve
the
use
of
a
site
for
its
intended
function.
I
So
those
are
on
the
top
here
and
sites
where
we
would
not
consider
allowing
aesthetic
uses.
You
can
see
sort
of
a
group
of
types
of
sites
here
on
the
top
sports
field.
Special
events
and
golf
courses
are
all
sites
that
rely
heavily
on
on
aesthetics
to
sort
of
serve
the
function
that
they
serve.
So
we
put
all
those
insights
where
we
would
allow
some
aesthetic
uses
pools.
That's
a
very
specific
case
in
this.
I'm
talking
about
just
the
turfed
area
right
outside
the
pool
deck.
I
That
is
an
area
where
we
really
try
to
reduce
flowering
species
of
plants
to
reduce
the
number
of
bees
that
are
attracted
to
those
areas,
because
bee
stings
are
really
a
big
issue
for
us
in
those
spots.
Right-Of-Ways
really
stand
out
here
we
go
back
and
forth
on
this,
but
right-of-ways
the
chemical
use
of
right-of-way
saves
us
an
enormous
amount
of
time,
and
by
those
I
mean
our
non-turf
driveways
that
are
mostly
planter
beds
and
our
planter
beds
in
parks.
I
This
is
the
decision
to
put
it
in
in
an
area
that
we
would
allow
aesthetic
uses
came
down
to
kind
of
two
things.
One
there's
there's
little
human
interaction
with
those
sites
generally,
so
some
of
the
human
health
concerns
are
mitigated
somewhat
by
that,
and
also
it's
a
really
hazardous
area
for
our
employees
to
work
in
so
anything
that
we
can
do
to
reduce
the
labor
hours
at
those
sites
we
feel
like.
We
should
do
so.
That
leaves
sort
of
our
neighborhood
parks.
I
I
So
if
we
make
those
reductions,
if
we
take
out
the
aesthetic
uses
at
those
sites
on
the
bottom
there
looking
at
the
numbers
from
last
year,
I
anticipate
that
we
could
achieve
about
a
40
reduction
in
our
240
use
paired
with
the
glyphosate
reductions
that
I
that
I
I
think
that
we
can
get
from
the
changes
that
we've
learned
we
can
make
in
the
pilot
program.
I
think
we're
looking
at
about
a
one-third
reduction
in
our
overall
use
that
we
could
achieve
through
these
through
these
changes.
I
A
lot
of
the
chemicals
that
we
lay
down
are
intended
are
done
intentionally
to
reduce
biodiversity
in
in
these
areas.
You
know,
we've.
We
have
a
specific
way
that
we
want
the
parks
to
look
and-
and
we
achieve
that
by
by
these,
these
various
methods-
chemicals
being
one
of
them.
So
it's
it's
really
trying
to
create
kind
of
a
cultural
shift
or
or
at
least
match
if
there
is
a
cultural
shift
going
on
within
boise
of
what
people
view
as
a
healthy
park
right.
So
that's
something.
I
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
with
our
staff.
I
see
this
is
kind
of
the
keys
to
a
to
a
successful
program
of
pesticide
reduction.
Here
these
these
three
lakes
of
support
and
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
our
staff
sort
of
trying
to
trying
to
create
that
cultural
shift,
trying
to
change
the
way
that
they
view
a
healthy
park,
because
I
think
when
I
first
came
to
our
staff
with
these.
I
With
these
ideas
and
these
changes,
they
were
really
concerned
that
the
parks
would
look
unmaintained,
and
you
know
I
I
they
take
a
lot
of
pride
and
in
the
way
those
parks
look
they're
out
there,
working
on
them
every
day
and
and
that's
really
invaluable
to
us
as
a
department
and
us
as
a
city
and-
and
so
I
I
didn't-
want
to
leave
them
out
or
discount
what
they,
what
they
felt
about
the
sites.
I
think
that
I'm
there,
I
was
just
talking
to
one
of
our
maintenance
managers
the
other
day.
I
He
said
that
he
and
his
team
were
ready
to
make
these
changes
to
to
do
this.
He
was
just
concerned
that,
without
these
other
two
legs
of
support
from
the
administration
from
the
public
that
they
would
be
seen
as
not
doing
their
jobs
properly
speaking
of
public
support,
though
we
have
been
gathering
feedback
throughout
this
and
it's
been
overwhelmingly
positive.
I
We
do
have
some
people
who
are
concerned
that
it
will
impact
our
ability
to
to
control
invasive
species,
and
I've
tried
to
make
it
very
clear
that
that
is
not
the
case
that
we
will
still
take
those
very
seriously
and
do
everything
we
can
to
to
to
control
those.
We
also
have
you
know
a
subset
of
people
who
are
really
connected
to
the
way
parks
have
traditionally
looked
as
well.
I
So
we
have
gotten
some
comments
on
that
people
who
really
just
don't
want
to
see
more
more
dandelions,
more
clover
or
anything
like
that
in
the
parks,
but
they
are
in
the
minority
here,
and
the
last
leg
is
support
from
the
administration.
I
think
with
this
we
can.
We
can
really
do
something
very
good
for
the
city
in
reducing
the
chemical
burden
on
our
environment.
D
B
I
D
Well,
I
think
it's
great,
and
I
think
that
you
know
a
lot
of
what
you
talked
about
was
finding
that
balance
between
what
people
expect
our
parks
to
look
like
and
how
we
can
reduce
our
pesticide
use
and
all
of
the
environmental
benefits
of
that
and
kind
of
finding
out
where
that
line
is,
and
it's
probably
on
a
park
by
park
basis.
So
I
appreciate
all
of
your
work.
I
think
it's
really
important.
D
F
That's
just
been
treated
with
a
broad
spectrum
herbicide
and
I
wonder
if
the
public
would
help
it
would
help
the
public
to
understand
the
trade-off
that
we're
trying
to
make
to,
and
I
I
don't
know
if
this
is
reasonable-
to
ask
you
but
to
just
publish
our
spray
schedules
so
that
people
know
oh
gosh
on
wednesday
morning.
This
has
just
been
sprayed.
I
don't
want
to
go
there
and
that
might
help
people
start
to
think
gee.
Maybe
I'd
rather
tolerate
some
dandelions
in
order
to
have
better
access
to
a
park
in
a
cleaner
way.
F
A
The
that's
a
great
point
and
what
we
found
over
the
years
is
when
the
posting
is
out
there,
that
the
the
lawns
have
just
been
treated.
We
hear
from
our
community
and
that's
why
you
know.
Council
president,
craig
myself
when
I
was
on
council,
were
asking
for
several
years
to
see
a
pilot
happen
because
of
the
response
at
the
time
that
we
were
getting
from
the
community
as
council
members
that
they
wanted
us
to
look
at
how
we
can
reduce
this.
For
that
very
reason.
A
So,
as
daniel
was
talking,
I
was
actually
thinking
about
like
as
we
ease
into
this,
and
I
appreciate
the
measurement
you're
doing
and
the
goals
you've
set
for
the
reduction.
It's
really
impressive!
How
we
do
that
balance
of
reminding
folks
that,
oh
remember
you.
You
asked
us
to
do
this
because
of
the
health
concerns
you
had
clean
water
concerns
you
had
when
you
saw
the
sign,
and
so
this
is
what
it
means.
So
it
might
be
signage
from
a
positive
perspective
and
that
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
we're
doing.
H
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
danny.
It's
great
to
see
you
sorry,
I'm
not
in
the
council
chambers
with
you,
but
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
council
member
beijing
is
absolutely
correct.
We
have
a
gem
of
a
staff
person
here
who
digs
in
at
in
the
deepest
levels
of
some
of
these
really
nerdy
topics
and
does
a
great
job
for
us.
So
I
wanted
to
just
acknowledge
that
and
really
appreciate
it.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
as
you
were
talking.
I
Madam
mayor
council,
member
clegg,
no
I
we.
We
have
not
tried
increasing
the
mowing,
frequency
and
and
honestly
that
that
hadn't
really
crossed
my
mind.
It
would
reduce
the
the
just
the
visibility
of
the
weeds.
You
know
I
use
that
term
again,
but
but
it
would
reduce
the
visibility
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
really
good.
Obviously,
there's
there's
staffing
issues.
I
I
don't
think
that
we've
had
a
full
complement
of
our
seasonal
staff
for
several
years
now,
which
which
makes
it
a
little
bit
difficult.
I
H
Yeah
anyway,
that
well
great-
I
it
intrigued
me,
so
I
thought
I'd
bring
it
up.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
about.
I
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
brought
up
the
changes
that
we've
began
to
make
to
some
parks
and
adding
some
of
the
pollinators
and
and
other
mix
of
plants,
and
I
suspect
those
folks
in
the
audience
who've
gone
to
catherine
albertson's
later,
would
recognize
what
a
really
big
difference
it's
made
there.
I
think
much
for
the
better
in
that
particular
park.
I
H
F
I
We
we
have
experimenters
with
some
different
grass
mixtures.
In
fact,
boise
hills
park
has
a
xeriscape
mix
from
a
from
a
seed
distributor
out
in
out
in
nampa
and,
and
that
has
been
successful.
The
reason
we
did
that
originally
was
was
for
water
use,
reduction
and,
and
I'm
not
sure
that
we've
seen
much
difference
from
from
a
from
a
pesticide
application
or
needing
a
pesticide
application,
but
we
we
have.
H
G
This
is
councilwoman
lucy
daniel.
Thank
you
for
your
expertise
on
this.
I
think
we're
very,
very
lucky
to
have
you
and
there's
nothing
that
I
think
people
care
more
about
is
their
neighborhood
park
and
and
the
places
that
they
go
a
couple
of
questions.
First
of
all,
when
people
talked
about
something
being
unkept,
can
you
describe
what
that
meant,
because
it
probably
means
something
different
to
me
that
I
might
need
to
others,
and
then
I
just
want
to
get
a
sense
of
you
know
our
end
result
here.
G
I
Madam
mayor
council,
member
willets,
yes,
so
that
that
that
does
basically
sum
it
up.
You
know
we're
we're
looking
at
the
at
the
reduction
of
our
of
our
pesticides,
and
that
will
mean
a
different
look
to
the
parks
and
and
that
kind
of
ties
into
what
you
were
asking
about.
As
as
what
defines
unkempt-
and
I
think
that
that's
part
of
the
issue
here
is
that
everybody
has
a
different,
a
different
definition
of
what
looks
unkempt.
E
Mad
mayor,
I
think
I
can
make
this
question
quick,
I'm
not
going
to
ask
you
anything
too
technical.
I
think
I'd
appear
foolish
pretty
quickly.
I
am
interested.
There
were
two
parks
that
were
identified,
that
maybe
it
was
the
neighborhood
associations
volunteered
their
participation,
and
that's
really
really
interesting
to
me,
because
I
love
the
idea
of
neighborhoods
finding
those
parks
and
helping
us
understand
the
areas
that
that
they
would
like
to
pursue
this.
I
E
Yeah
madame
mayor,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
great
presentation
again.
I
find
that
just
tremendously
interesting,
because
I
I
do
wonder
with
all
of
our
different
neighborhood
associations,
some
of
the
emails
that
I
receive
from
them,
how
much
excitement
or
willingness
or
wanting
to
participate
in
this
type
of
effort
going
forward
that
there
is
out
there,
and
I
anticipate
that
it's
a
growing
number
if
people
understand
more
and
more
about
how
great
it
is
to
have
more
pollinators
in
their
neighborhoods
and
in
their
areas.
So
again,
thank
you
for
the
work.
A
J
J
So
there's
really
three
prongs
to
our
approach
to
this.
On
the
airport
side,
the
airport
as
a
facility
owner,
will
provide
the
local
perspective
and
represent
the
community
interests.
Kaplan
and
kirsch
is
a
industry
expert
law
firm
that
will
address
some
of
the
legal
considerations.
Think
things
like
indemnification,
insurance,
regulatory
compliance,
those
contract
provisions
that
have
legal
connotations
and
then
lee
fisher
is
a
group
that
will
assist
us
with
the
business
analysis
and
the
business
terms.
Because
there
are
several
decisions
and
decision
points
along
the
way
that
we'll
need
to
discuss.
J
So
when
we
approach
this,
we
always
start
thinking
about
what
it
is
we're
hoping
to
achieve,
and
of
course
the
very
first
thing
is.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
our
agreement
is
beneficial
for
the
airport,
for
the
community
and
for
our
airline
partners,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
address
future
needs
both
the
needs
that
we
know
are
coming
our
planned
capital
expansion,
but
also
potentially
unexpected
capital
needs.
You
know
we
see
growth
in
a
particular
area
or
growth
that
we
hadn't
expected.
J
J
Obviously,
we
want
to
be
fiscally
stable.
We
need
to
address
future
challenges.
I
mean
I
think,
if
we'd
had
this
conversation
in
2019,
none
of
us
would
have
predicted
the
pandemic.
So
we
really
need
to
be
able
to
address
future
challenges,
hopefully
nothing
to
the
scale
of
the
pandemic,
and
then
we
need
to
modernize
the
agreement.
It's
been
substantially
unchanged
since
2006.
J
J
J
So,
while
we
know
those
things
to
be
true
and
when
we've
seen
a
downturn
in
21,
we
expect
that
22,
we'll
see
returns,
probably
to
20
20,
19
levels
and
then
moving
forward.
We
expect
that
growth
will
continue,
and
I
don't
think
that
I
probably
need
to
say
this
out
loud
to
the
council,
because
you're
all
very
aware,
but
our
metro
area
is
growing,
people
are
moving
to
boise
and
the
growth
rate
has
actually
increased
since
before
the
pandemic.
J
And
that
leads
to
a
number
of
capital
needs,
not
just
the
terminal.
Capital
needs
that
we've
talked
about
many
times,
but
also
a
number
of
airfield
capital
needs,
and
I
won't
read
these
to
you
because
I
think
we've
talked
about
them
quite
a
bit.
But
in
addition
to
all
the
terminal
and
landside
improvements,
we
have
a
number
of
airfield
improvements
as
well.
J
So
where
are
we
today
in
terms
of
our
current
rates
and
charges?
This
is
shows
the
trend
over
time.
You
can
see
that
our
landing
fees
and
our
terminal
rates
have
actually
been
generally
decreasing
up
to
the
pandemic,
and
that's
because
our
rates
are
relatively
fixed,
our
costs
are
relatively
fixed.
It
costs
us
the
same
amount
to
move
snow
from
the
runways,
regardless
of
how
many
airplanes
are
landing.
J
J
Some
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
as
we
move
forward
and
obviously
terminal
rental
rates
will
be
one
when
we
calculate
the
rates
there's
a
couple
of
different
methodologies
that
can
be
used
in
calculating
rates.
Our
rates
are
set
based
on
different
cost
centers.
Some
of
them
are
things
like
our
admin
area,
security,
which
would
include
police
aircraft.
Firefighting
airfield
is
its
own
cost.
Center
parking
and
roads
are
cost
center,
and
then
the
income
from
those
are
allocated
to
the
landing
fee.
J
Capital
control
is
going
to
be
very
important
as
we
move
through
these
negotiations.
Currently,
we
have
what's
called
a
majority
and
interest
clause.
This
allows
the
airlines
to
have
a
say
in
our
capital
development,
and
the
rationale
for
this
is
that
in
a
residual
model,
the
airlines
are
responsible
for
paying
that
cost.
So
the
cost
gets
added
into
the
rate
base
and
then
they
pay
it
moving
forward,
so
they
should
have
a
say
in
it
moving
forward.
J
We
might
want
to
consider
a
compensatory
cost
allocation
or
a
hybrid
cost
allocation
where
we
assume
more
of
the
risk,
but
we
also
retain
more
of
the
revenue
in
a
majority
in
interest.
The
airlines
have
the
ability
to
deny
a
project
or
defer
a
project.
In
our
case
they
can
defer
a
project
up
to
two
years.
J
J
F
One
follow-up,
so
as
airlines
compete
to
be
here
like
does
this
create
a
risk
for
us
where
an
established
or
entrenched
airline
that
has
the
infrastructure
it
needs
and
is
maybe
attempting
to
edge
out
a
competitor
who
wants
to
come
to
this
market,
but
then
would
be
served
by
the
capital
improvement
like?
Is
it
that
cutthroat.
J
J
J
Non-Signatory
and
other
just
to
clarify
that,
so
we
have
some
airlines
that
are
signatory,
meaning
they've,
signed
on
to
the
agreement
and
then
some
airlines
that
have
an
operating
agreement
here,
but
maybe
haven't
signed
on
to
the
full
agreement,
meaning
they
haven't
obligated
themselves
for
the
entire
term
of
the
contract
to
be
on
the
hook
for
whatever
the
rates
are.
So
our
signatory
carriers
have
agreed
to
the
terms
over
the
full
contract
length
non-signatory,
for
example,
allegiant
here
is
a
non-signatory
airline,
so
they
could.
J
J
An
affiliate
airline
would
be,
for
example,
like
a
sky
west
that
flies
for
another
carrier
they're
an
affiliate.
They
don't
have
an
actual
ticket
counter
here,
they're
repres
they're
part
of
another
carrier.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
majority
and
interest
already,
and
I
think
the
other
ones
are
pretty
self-explanatory.
J
So
to
counselor
badges
point,
the
evolution
of
airline
agreements
over
time
has
changed
substantially
back
in
the
early
80s.
I
think
just
after
airline
deregulation,
which
I
realized
is
a
long
time
ago,
we
had
traditionally
residual
agreements,
meaning
the
airlines
bore
the
risk
and,
as
a
result,
they
shared
in
the
profit
in
the
90s.
J
So
the
terms
that
we'll
be
discussing
previously
we've
had
much
longer
rental
term
agreements,
we're
envisioning
this
time,
a
shorter
agreement
recognizing
that
we
have
a
major
capital
infrastructure
program
in
process
and
that
we'll
have
hopefully
a
new
concourse
coming
online
within
the
next
five
years.
So
we're
expecting
to
use
a
shorter
term,
and
this
is
again
you
can
see.
J
J
So,
as
part
of
this
discussion,
we'll
want
to
have
a
minimum
use
requirement
where
they
have
to
use
a
jet
bridge
a
certain
number
of
times
a
day.
Is
it
five?
Is
it
seven?
Is
it
three?
I
don't
know
what
the
magic
number
is,
but
we
wanna
make
sure
that
we
build
flexibility
into
our
agreement
and
then
non-signatory
premiums,
so
our
existing
carriers,
our
signatory
carriers,
enjoy
a
lower
rate
because
they've
committed
to
boise
for
the
longer
term.
J
J
We
currently
do
a
mid-year
adjustment
and
then
we
often
airports
will
often
have
a
year-end
settlement
where
the
fee
is
based
on
budget
or
projections
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
year,
there's
a
settlement
where
you
look
at
what
actuals
were
and
then
the
airlines
either
pay
more
or
you
refund,
if
they've
overpaid
and
then
also
looking
at.
How
do
we
accommodate
carriers
that
do
less
than
daily
service
or
maybe
have
a
slightly
different
schedule
and
do
a
per
turn
fee?
J
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
so
going
back
to
the
the
residual
versus
compensatory
versus
hybrid.
Really,
it's
a
lot
of
fancy
words
for
revenue
sharing.
How
much
revenue
do
we
share
with
the
airlines
to
offset
the
cost
of
running
the
airfield
and
the
terminal
because
they
generate
a
number
of
the
passengers?
And
again
this
is
a
breakdown
of
airports
across
the
country.
J
So
how
much
control
do
we
want
to
allow
the
airlines
to
have
and
how
we
build
out
the
boise
airport
in
the
future
and
if
we
were
to
do
a
residual
where
they
would
assume
the
risk?
What
does
that
look
like
in
terms
of
an
investment
in
capital
development?
So
if
we
were
to
do
that,
part
of
the
thing
would
be
every
year
we
would
set
aside,
you
can
pick
a
number
two
million
five
million
dollars
that
would
be
put
into
a
capital
fund.
That
would
be
part
of
that
discussion.
J
J
The
strength
of
that
majority
and
interest
clause
and
then
also
consultation
clauses
so
usually
we'll
have
a
situation
where
if
we
want
to
build
a
capital
project,
it
can
require
consultation.
Our
agreement
currently
requires
approval,
but
the
agreement
could
just
require
consultation
that
we
let
them
know
what
we're
doing,
but
they
don't
necessarily
approve
it.
J
We've
talked
about
this
majority
in
interest.
Quite
a
bit.
The
trend
is
going
away
from
majority
in
interest.
I
think,
for
a
lot
of
the
reasons
that
council
of
agent
alluded
to,
there
could
be
times
where
it's
not
the
airline's
interest
in
the
airport
and
the
community's
interests
may
not
align
exactly
or
we
may
want
slightly
different
things.
J
J
We
talked
about
minimum
use
requirements
already
and
then,
if
someone's
not
using
the
infrastructure,
that's
been
assigned
to
them
to
the
necessary
capacity,
and
we
have
another
need.
How
do
we
recapture
that
and
forced
accommodation
is
exactly
what
it
sounds
like
if
someone
didn't
want
to
move,
but
we
had
another
carrier
that
wanted
or
needed
space.
We
could
force
someone
to
to
accommodate
that.
So
those
are
topics
for
negotiation
and
discussion.
J
J
That
would
typically
be,
for
example,
a
rental
car
counter
preferential
might
mean
they're
the
ones
who
primarily
use
it,
but
we
could
use
it
if
we
had
another
another
airline
that
needed
to
use
it
so
think,
like
a
jet
bridge,
you
know
you
always
land,
and
you
always,
you
know
from
you,
take
off
from
the
same
jet
bridge
in
boise
on
delta.
It's
almost
always
the
same
jet
bridge.
J
J
D
Madam
mayor,
thank
you
rebecca,
as
I
was
reading
through
your
powerpoint
prior
to
the
meeting
I
was
like
wow.
This
is
a
lot
of
stuff
and
it
helped
me
like
as
a
frequent
traveler.
It
was
like.
Oh
so
that's
why
you
go
to
one
airport
and
they
manage
their
jet
ways
different
ways
or
maybe
they
manage
their
ticketing
counters
different
ways,
so
that
was
really
insightful.
I
appreciate
the
knowledge
that
you
were
able
to
share
with
us,
and
I
wish
you
all
the
very
best
in
your
in
your
negotiations.
D
J
Thank
you
for
that,
and
that's
why
we
have
brought
in
some
outside
experts
as
well,
because
it
is
incredibly
complex
and
while
we
may
negotiate
this
type
of
agreement
once
every
10
years,
the
people
that
we've
hired
as
professional
consultants
do
this
type
of
agreement
multiple
times
a
year
every
year
and
so
to
have
their
expertise,
is
really
valuable
for
us
to
see
how
they've
done
it
in
other
places
and
best
practices
and
that's
what
we
want
to
bring
to
boise
very
smart.
Thank
you.
F
Man
yeah
what
council
member
williams
said
right
or
the
council
pro
tem.
This
is
so
complex
in
a
world
where
the
future
is
certain
and
then
you
have
to
adapt
and
adjust
and
maintain
the
flexibility.
And
so
I
I
certainly
don't
feel
confident
like
pointing
out
anything
that
we
need
to
emphasize.
But
I
do
think
it's
important
that
we
maintain
the
flexibility
to
create
number
one,
the
highly
attractive
airport.
F
We
have
to
carriers
now
because
it's
been
so
well
run
and
it's
so
you
know
low
cost
for
people
to
enter
the
market
generally,
but
then
number
two,
the
flexibility
to
use
our
space
as
we
need
to
in
the
next
10
20
30
years
to
serve
the
people
in
the
metro
area.
And
so
I
like
that's
just
so
so
so
important
that
nobody
can
capture
a
piece
of
our
facility
or
resource
in
a
way
that
disadvantages
other
carriers.
The
ability
to
serve
all
of
these
things.
F
They're
in
your
slides
and
they're
really
important-
and
I
don't
have
any
like
second
guessing
or
suggestions
to
make,
because
it's
so
complex,
but
I'm
glad
you're
watching
it
and
I'm
looking
for
look
forward
on
the
commission
and
other
ways
to
being
helpful.
Whoever
I
can
because
I'm
just
really
appreciative
of
the
really
good
work
that
you're
doing
to
make
sure
these
things
are
taken.
Care
of.
Thank
you.
A
Well,
thank
you
rebecca.
I
want
to
echo
the
council
members
appreciation
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
trust
in
the
negotiating
that
you'll
do.
You
know
you
have
long
seen
this
airport
since
you've
arrived
as
key
to
economic
development,
economic
opportunity
in
our
community
and
we've
seen
through
your
work
in
looking
at
lands
that
could
be.
You
know
best
suited
for
like
creation
of
industrial
jobs
working
with
the
land
around
the
airport,
using
the
hjr
a
resolution
to
build
more
opportunity
here,
and
this
is
another
piece
of
that
as
the
airport's
grown.
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And
so
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
we
always
enter
everything
with
the
focus
that
our
interests
is
representing
the
city
of
boise
and
the
greater
boise
metro
area
and
know
that
you
know
we
may
not
always
come
to
the
same
conclusion.
Or
there
may
be
times
where
we
don't
necessarily
agree
with
the
airlines,
for
example
on
majority
and
interest,
but
that
we
need
to
just
recognize
what
the
process
is
and
why
we're
doing
the
things
that
we're
doing
so.