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I'm,
just
as
a
reminder,
I'm
going
to
refer
to
the
cruise
talk
about
cruising,
want
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
page.
What
we're
talking
about
the
crews
as
we're
talking
about
downtown
in
the
downtown
Corridor
really
runs
spring
through
fall.
You'll,
see
folks
down
there
in
the
winter
as
well.
It's
usually
doing
laps,
Maine
and
Idaho
between
5th
and
14th
ish,
but
there's
a
peak
between
Memorial
Day
and
Labor
Day
and
over
the
last
six
months
to
a
year.
E
Businesses
and
members
of
the
public
have
raised
concerns
about
some
of
the
behaviors
associated
with
the
crews.
The
noise
trash
some
chaos
in
the
area
and
some
businesses
have
even
felt
forced
to
change
their
schedules
because
of
the
impact
of
some
of
these
behaviors
on
their
staff
and
customers,
and
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
that
I'm
bringing
you
today
focus
on
the
noise
and
the
modified
exhaust
systems
that
are
causing
some
of
these
issues,
specifically
the
revving
of
the
engines
and
then
also
that
gunfire
sound.
That
happens.
E
That
does
cause
some
Panic
for
folks.
Downtown
I
am
talking
specifically
here
about
downtown
because
that's
where
sort
of
our
biggest
issues
are,
but
these
recommendations
apply
broadly,
they
are
not
bound
by
any
geographic
area
in
the
city,
and
it's
focused
on
some
of
these
behaviors
foreign
before
you
a
few
months
ago.
You
all
provided
some
feedback
and
I
just
wanted
to
go
over
some
of
that
again
to
share
that
with
the
public
and
also
make
sure
that
you
know
we
took
that
into
account
when
making
these
recommendations.
E
So
you
all
recognize
that
the
cruise
has
become
somewhat
of
a
Boise
tradition,
but
you
are
concerned
about
the
impact
that
it
has
on
the
downtown
area
and
that
impact
has
caused
some
health
and
safety
issues
that
we
wanted
to
address
through
some
changes
to
the
ordinance.
But
you
were
clear
that
you
wanted
to
both
enforce
the
current
laws
that
we
have
on
the
books
and
also
focus
on
the
behavior.
So
we
aren't
not
coming
here
before
you.
E
So
current
city
code
is
really
set
up
so
that
we
can
enforce
through
measuring
decibel
levels
and
the
way
that
was
designed
was
really
for
exhaust
systems
that
are
modified
or
in
disrepair
and
are
sort
of
creating
these
constant
sounds
that
are
longer
than
more
than
a
couple
of
seconds,
not
really
designed
to
address
the
concerns
and
the
behavior
we're
talking
about
where
these
short
bursts
of
sounds
that
are
intentional.
They
usually
last
a
couple
seconds
at
most.
E
So
when
I
was
here
before
you,
we
did
talk
about
looking
into
new
technologies
that
we
could
acquire
for
BPD
handheld
technologies
that
could
measure
those
decibel
levels
but
looking
into
it
further
decided
that
that
wasn't
really
going
to
address
any
of
the
issues
we
already
had
the
decibel
levels
in
code
we
weren't
able
to
with
current
or
new
technologies,
be
able
to
measure
quick
enough
again.
Those
those
sounds
last
for
a
couple
of
seconds,
so
that
wasn't
the
way
that
we
decided
to
go
here.
E
So
the
I'll
go
over
some
of
the
changes,
but
generally
they're
all
focused
on
those
intentional
sounds,
including
the
revving
of
engines
and
then
and
the
gunfire
sounds
so.
The
first
section
that's
changed
is
title
6,
chapter
16
and
really
just
a
general
section
to
say
the
operating
a
motor
vehicle
in
a
right-of-way
in
a
manner
that
creates
an
unreasonable
noise.
Again,
the
examples
I'll
keep
going
to
are
the
really
loud
revving
of
Vengeance
and
that
gunfire
sound,
that's
Audible
for
more
than
50
feet
away.
E
That
will
be
an
infraction
and
then
in
the
next
section.
That's
where
we
have
more
of
the
substantive
changes
so
in
in
chapter
17,
we've
removed
all
of
the
references
to
measuring
decibel
levels.
For
all
the
reasons
I
have
explained,
it's
just
impossible
to
measure
the
only
way
we
could
do.
That
is
if
we
change
the
downtown
infrastructure
to
constantly
and
passively
measure
sound,
and
we
likely
need
to
have
cameras
involved
too
to
be
able
to
attach
that
to
the
vehicle
and
that's
not
something
that
it
seems
like
anyone
was
interested
in
doing.
E
There's
also
likely
some
other
legal
issues
with
state
law
there.
So
what
we
have,
what
we
have
done
is
is
made
it
a
little
more
General
again
no
unreasonable
sounds
that
can
be
heard
from
more
than
50
feet
away
and
it
does
talk
about
modified
Mufflers.
So
if
someone,
for
example,
does
have
a
vehicle
Factory
vehicle
that
wasn't
modified,
that
was
loud
and
we
cited
them.
That
would
be
a
defense
for
them
if
they
went
to
court
that
this
was
their
Factory
vehicle
and
they
didn't
do
anything
to
modify
it.
E
The
other
change
in
this
section
we
keep
the
first
violation
as
an
infraction
and
I'll
I'll
talk
about
in
just
a
minute
changing
the
fine
amount.
But
in
this
section
we
changed
a
second
violation
within
a
year
to
a
misdemeanor
based
on
the
feedback
that
you
all
provided.
E
And
then
the
last
section
that
is
the
recommendation
to
change,
is
related
to
overall
infractions
across
city
code
So.
Currently,
an
infraction
in
city
code
is
punishable
by
up
to
100
fine,
but
state
code
allows
us
to
go
up
to
300,
so
this
proposed
change
would
bring
that
ceiling
up
to
300.
It
doesn't
actually
change
any
specific,
infraction
fines,
yet
it
just
allows
us
to
go
up
to
300.
E
and
then
a
resolution,
assuming
you
all,
approve
these
code
changes.
A
resolution
would
accompany
the
code
changes
on
third
reading
to
say
these
specific
infractions
would
go
up
to
300,
but
all
of
the
other
infractions
would
remain
unchanged.
E
F
F
After
speaking
with
my
people,
some
recommendations
that
we
have
regarding
how
to
enforce
the
specifically
the
downtown
core
and
the
complaints
that
we
have
received.
As
stated,
it
goes
basically
from
Memorial
Day
to
Labor
Day,
which
the
is
also
considered.
The
hundred
deadliest
Days
of
Summer
by
the
office
of
Highway
Safety
be
concentrating
on
Thursdays,
Fridays
and
Saturdays,
which
we
have
seen
the
most
traffic
down
there.
F
What
we
would
do
is
we
would
start
on
the
inbound
connector
as
people
are
coming
down.
We
do
see
a
lot
of
speeders
and
other
our
speeding
vehicles
and
other
infractions
that
we
would
enforce
and
then
specifically
to
the
downtown
core
we'd.
Have
our
motorcycle
officers
would
be
part
of
it.
Our
DUI
traffic
officers
would
be
a
part
of
it
and
we
also
would
bring
in
our
partner
agencies
to
assist
in
a
saturation
type
Patrol
when
necessary,
and
then
we
would
some
things
that
we
would
be
enforcing.
F
Besides,
what
was
just
a
recommendation
for
the
ordinance
change,
excessive
speeds,
racing
and
reckless
driving
and
aggressive
driving,
and
then
also
the
kind
of
a
big
one
that
we
see
quite
a
bit
is
the
failing
to
yield
to
pedestrian
and
bicyclists,
which
is
a
big,
a
big
issue,
as
you
can
imagine,
for
people
that
are
out
enjoying
downtown
and
how
we
would
do
this
is
we
would
have
a
communication
with
the
public
we'd
use,
our
public
information
officer
to
put
out
word
that
we're
going
to
be
down
there,
we're
going
to
be
enforcing
what
we're
going
to
be
enforcing
the
relevant
statutes
that
people
can
be
aware
of,
and
that's
it
for
all
I
have
for
that
and
any
questions.
G
I
have
a
question
so
I
think
we've
got
the
ticket
of
Defense,
so
somebody
makes
a
loud
noise.
We
figure
out
that
we
can
prove
that
it's
them
and
we're
writing
them
a
ticket
for
that
loud
noise.
Is
it
legal
to
actually
have
the
modifications
on
their
car
in
the
first
place,
the.
F
And
my
apologies
Council
Pro
tem
Haliburton.
That
would
be
the
discretion
of
the
officer
there.
There
they'd
be
two
separate
there's
the
state
code
for
the
modified
Muffler,
and
then
this
would
be
a
city
ordinance,
so
that
would
be
the
Oxford
discretion
yeah.
G
The
metamere
just
developed
there,
so
it
sounds
like
there's
potentially
two
infractions
that
they
would
have
there.
One
would
be
the
excessive
noise
or
the
noise
from
the
city,
but
then
also
having
illegal
modifications
on
their
car.
F
H
So,
thanks
for
being
here
really
excited
to
see
these
changes
a
couple
of
questions
you
didn't
address
rolling
coal.
How
will
when
they,
you
know
make
smoke,
make
diesel
smoke
in
front
of
everybody?
How
are
you
going
to
address
that.
F
Council
member
clay
you
talk
about
when
they
spin
their
tires
yeah
that
would
actually
be
under
negligent.
It's.
H
Actually
not
tires,
it's
it's
a
diesel
thing,
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
they
do
it.
E
Madam
American
council
member
that
is
also
in
here
I,
didn't
I,
didn't
bring
it
in,
but
it's
excessive
noise
and
then
the
excessive
smoke
and.
H
Exactly
okay,
I
I
thought:
I
saw
it
in
in
the
ordinance
when
I
read
it.
But
you
didn't
say
anything
sorry
about
that.
Okay
and
then
my
last
question
have
we
thought
about
not
shutting
off
the
cruise,
but
but
really
reducing
the
speed
limit,
especially
from
ninth
to
Capital,
on
both
Maine
and
Idaho
During,
certain
hours
so
10
miles
an
hour
or
something
I
know
they
don't
go
very
fast
anyway,
because
they're
in
traffic,
mostly,
but
they
like
to
go
as
fast.
E
Yeah
men
American
council
member
at
the
at
the
last
work
session
we
talked
about
this
I
think
it
was
council,
member,
Holly
Burton.
You
asked
if
there
was
a
way
we
could
design
the
streets
and
other
other
actions.
E
We
could
take
that
weren't
necessarily
ordinance
but
related
to
sort
of
decrease
that
activity,
and
we
have
discussed
that
internally
and
I
know
Brie
on
my
team
has:
has
this
on
our
list
of
things
also
to
discuss
with
achg
as
ways
we
could
partner
together
to
sort
of
create
a
better
design
to
reduce
this
activity.
I
Thank
you
both
so
much
for
your
work
on
this.
We,
as
you
said,
Hannah
we've
been
hearing
from
businesses,
especially
over
the
past
year,
about
just
how
disruptive
some
of
this
stuff
is,
especially
as
it
comes
into
patio
season
and
people
are
out
and
about
and
I.
Think
too,
with
the
increase
in
residential
uses
downtown,
it
is
creating
a
little
bit
more
conflict.
I
F
Oh,
yes,
council
president
weddings,
great
question:
we
we
would
do
if
the
ordinance
was
to
to
change.
We
would
do
our
our
internal
eye
learns
type
training
where
they
would
have
to
go
in
review.
It
be
able
to
ask
questions
to
their
supervisors
during
trainings.
If
they
had
anything
like
that,
but
the
officers
every
officer
would
be
trained
on
any
ordinance
change.
I
Then
metamere
follow
up
how
about
on
the
because
I've
done
a
write-along
downtown
at
night,
and
it's
just
I
mean
very
chaotic.
It's
really
hard
to
figure
out
where
noises
are
coming
from.
You
know
which
vehicle
is
it?
How
are
you
going
to
get
to
that
vehicle
if
you
figure
it
out?
I
F
Council
president
weddings,
if
I
understand
correctly
once
once,
we
identified
a
vehicle
that
violated
whichever
statute.
How
do
we
stop
them?
Is.
I
F
Well,
they
would
have
council
president
woodings,
they
would
I,
they
would
have
to
identify
which
vehicle
it
was
so
that
could
be
they're
in
line
with
the
vehicle,
and
you
know
they
the
vehicle's
next
to
them
or
there's
officers.
The
way
that
we
would
do
we
would
have,
we
would
have
officers
staged
in
down
the
roads
in
certain
areas.
F
I
Thank
you,
so
everyone's
kind
of
working
together
in
concert
communicating
and
making
sure
that
that
everyone's
kind
of
teaming
up
to
to
do
the
enforcement
actions
yeah.
I
C
Madame,
yes,
I
had
one
question:
I
think
it's
for
Hannah,
but
I'm,
not
sure.
So
the
factory
exhaust
is
a
defense
to
something
is
it
a
defense
to
making
too
much
noise
or
that
I
just
got
confused
like
because
you
can
make
too
much
noise,
probably
with
a
fact,
I,
don't
know
yeah.
What's
the
defense
too
yeah.
E
Men,
American
council,
member
I
I,
it
does
depend
so
there
there
are
prohibitions
to
modifying
and
making
those
gunfire
sounds
and
also
revving
of
your
engine.
So
if
you
are
making
an
unreasonable,
sound
and
your
car
isn't
modified,
but
there's
something
you
are
intentionally
doing,
I
believe
you
can
still
be
cited,
but
but
specific
to
the
modification
rules.
If
you
are
cited,
and
they
established
that
it
was
you
that
made
this
noise-
and
you
said
I
was
you
know
you
would
this
would
be
in
court?
Essentially,
I
was
simply
driving.
E
C
It
that
makes
sense.
Well,
you
know
my
feedback
last
time
we
talked
about
this,
was
it
shouldn't,
be
illegal
to
drive
your
car
in
a
circle
and
it
should
be
illegal
to
drive
your
car
in
a
circle
like
a
jerk
and
that's
what
you've
done
here.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
my
feedback
was
listened
to,
but
also
that
that
this
addresses
the
problem
behaviors,
because
it's
not
the
cruise,
that's
the
problem,
it's
the
type
of
cruising.
That
is
the
problem.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
E
G
G
Reading
about
that,
one,
the
cruise
doesn't
but
you're
right.
The
cruise
doesn't
have
to
be
a
bad
thing
and
it
could
be
a
really
cool
thing
as
well.
If
it's
done
properly,
if
people
aren't
breaking
the
law,
if
it's
done
safely
and
if
it
prioritizes
the
safety
of
the
most
vulnerable
users
on
the
road
and
like
council
member
Clegg,
that's
something
I
really
would
love
to
see
going
forward.
G
There's
a
certain
time
at
night,
when
Boise
has
so
many
pedestrians
walking
around
from
different
businesses,
different
clubs,
different
restaurants,
you
know
you
name
it
and
The
Pedestrian
activity
is,
is
overwhelming,
but
there's
no
real
change
in
how
the
streets
are
used
during
that
specific
period
of
time,
and
that's
something
I
think
that
we
really
have
to
address
is
the
city,
possibly
through
our
vision.
G
Zero
efforts
is
like
looking
at
crosswalk
times,
looking
at
what
it
would
actually
take
to
prioritize
the
safety
of
people
walking
around
and
so
I
think
that
this
is
a
really
great
start.
I'm
excited
to
see
the
the
impact
that
it
can
have
and
hopefully
encourage
people
to
do
the
cruise
in
a
way.
That's
fun
and
safe,
but
also
some
ways
that
we
as
a
city
can
keep
moving
forward
to
actually
prioritize
the
types
of
use
that
we
want
to
see
during
those
peak
times
for
our
businesses.
D
J
Mayor,
yes,
thank
you,
I
have
a
question
and
it
could
either
be
for
the
captain
or
for
Hannah,
so
I
really
like
where
we've
come
on
this
Ordinance.
One
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
point
out
is
that
this
isn't
just
a
downtown
Centric
thing.
J
If
there's
noises
in
other
parts
of
the
town
of
the
city,
we
wouldn't
tolerate
that
either
and
I
know
that
there
are
places
where
folks,
actually
they
don't,
they
don't
do
the
traditional
cruise,
but
they
do
drive
and-
and
it
can
be
overwhelming
in
terms
of
the
noise
I
know
that
the
police
can
be
everywhere
at
all
times,
but
walk
me
through
what
someone
would
do
if
that
becomes
a
stretch
that
now
becomes
more
amiable
to
something
like
this,
like
what?
What
sort
of
defense
mechanisms
do
we
have
in
place.
F
B
The
question
was
what
so
there
this
is.
You
know
the
cruise.
A
Is
downtown
but
this
Behavior
occurs
in
other
places
too.
So
what
do
the
police
plan
or
what
do
residents
have
the
opportunity
like
how
can
residents
seek
help
get
relief
if
something
similar
is
happening
in
their
neighborhood.
F
Absolutely
thank
you,
madam
mayor
councilman,
it's
a
great
question
and
you
know
it
this
we're
talking
about,
like
you
said
we're
talking
about
the
downtown
core,
but
obviously
this
this
is
something
that
we
could
do
anywhere
in
the
city.
So
if
there
are
identified
problems
that
you
know,
people
call
in
to
complain
saying
you
know:
they're
woken
up
at
night
or
anytime
during
the
day
because
of
type
of
behavior
that
we
are
discussing,
we
can
absolutely
send
the
same
type
of
concept
out
there
to
to
do
that.
B
D
K
K
So
good
evening,
Madam,
mayor
and
members
of
council,
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time
tonight
to
hear
about
this
I'm
here
to
present
to
you
something
that
I've
been
working
on
for
the
last
few
months
with
my
team
with
Tilly,
especially
it
is
an
update
or
a
recommended
update
to
the
percent
for
art,
ordinance
and
so
I'm,
just
here
to
more
or
less
let
you
know
where
we're
at
with
where
we
are
at
with
that.
K
What
we're
trying
to
do
in
terms
of
what
we're
trying
to
change
the
opportunities
we're
trying
to
take
hold
of,
and
then
also
to
just
get
affirm
in
the
direction
from
you
and
make
sure
that
we're
on
the
right
page
here
so
I'll
start
just
by
giving
you
a
little
bit
of
a
timeline
of
when
the
ordinance
was
passed
as
it
relates
to
public
the
public
art
program
in
the
city
of
Boise
and
where
we
are
today
with
arts
and
history
department.
K
So
we
began
in
1978
with
an
Arts
commission
and
that
actually
existed
until
2008.
There's
a
typo
there.
Sorry
about
that,
and
really
that
was
just
a
volunteer
organization
right
that
that
worked
to
implement
art
projects
throughout
the
city
and
then
in
2001.
We
had
the
passage
of
the
percent
for
art,
ordinance
that
was
passed
by
city
council
and
what
that
essentially
did
was
provide
one
percent
of
all
capital
projects,
eligible
capital
projects
to
go
toward
public
art
programs
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
a
lot
about
that
today
in
2004.
K
So
three
years
later,
the
office
of
the
city
historian
was
created
and
that
existed
until
2008,
and
it
was
of
course
in
that
year
that
the
department
was
created
by
ordinance
and
you
now
oversee
the
department
of
arts
and
history,
which
kind
of
wrapped
all
of
those
things
together
into
an
actual
Department
again
created
by
ordinance.
So
if
you
fast
forward
to
2023
that
department
has
grown
pretty
dramatically
since
then,
Council
has
blessed
many
parts
of
the
work
that
we
do
there.
K
We
have
several
service
lines,
we
have
Administration,
we
have
a
city
archives,
we
do
cultural
planning.
We
have
two
cultural
sites
that
we
oversee.
We
have
a
grant
program
of
150
000,
which
has
grown
since
its
beginning.
We
of
course
have
a
history
program.
We
have
public
art
and
then
we
have
a
care
and
conservation
program
to
take
care
of
that
public
art
and,
in
addition,
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
part.
K
We
have
16
ftes,
so
it's
a
it's
a
fully
staffed
Department
that
has
a
you
know,
a
much
broader
goal
and
a
much
broader
Mission
than
just
doing
a
public
art
program
and
that's
more
or
less.
Why
I'm
here
tonight
the
existing
percent
for
art
ordinance
as
it
stands
today
is
really
directed
only
at
the
public
art
portion
of
our
program
and
I've
gotten
got
a
couple
of
quotes
up
here
on
the
screen
that
are
specific
specifically
from
the
ordinance.
So
you
can
read
exactly
what
it
says.
So
you
can
see
here.
K
It
says
that
one
percent
of
eligible
Capital
expenditures
be
appropriated
for
the
acquisition
of
public
art
and
then
later
in
the
ordinance
and
I've
highlighted
in
green
some
of
the
things
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
over
the
next
few
minutes.
It
says:
Associated,
project
management,
maintenance
and
education
costs
will
be
funded
through
the
regular
City
budget
process,
not
to
exceed
four
tenths
of
a
percent
of
the
total
cost
of
all
eligible
Capital
Improvement
projects.
K
So
one
of
the
initiatives
that
I've
embarked
on
since
I
got
here
six
months
ago
yesterday,
I'll
have
you
know,
was
to
revise
this
ordinance
and
in
part
that
was
I
chose
this
as
a
strategic
initiative.
Because
of
the
meetings
that
I
had
in
my
department.
K
There
were
a
variety
of
things
that
my
staff
was
telling
me
in
those
first
few
weeks
of
my
tenure
here
that
pointed
to
this
ordinance
sort
of
needing
an
update,
and
that's
essentially
what
we're
doing
today.
So
the
ordinance
has
been
in
effect
for
22
years.
Actually,
as
of
yesterday,
so
I
share
an
anniversary
with
the
percent
for
art
ordinance.
In
some
ways
we
were
one
of
the
very
first
cities
in
Idaho
and
and
council
member
Halliburton
you'll
recognize
that
this
slide
has
changed
a
little
bit
because
it
turns
out.
K
We
were
not
the
very
first
to
pass
the
percent
for
art
ordinance.
We
were
the
second
in
the
state,
but
we
have
definitely
created
since
the
passage
of
this
ordinance
in
in
2001,
the
most
effective
and
the
biggest
public
art
program
in
the
state.
We
share
a
public
percent
for
art
ordinances
with
Ketchum
Coeur,
d'alene
and
Twin
Falls.
K
Our
public
art
collection
actually
totals
more
than
a
thousand
works,
one
of
which,
of
course,
is
adorning
the
diocese
tonight
and
then
many
of
which
you
can
see
throughout
the
city
throughout
City
Hall
throughout
our
libraries
and
many
other
places,
and
it's
really
a
pretty
magnificent
collection
that
we've
that
we've
maintained
and
that
we've
grown
over
those
years,
but
now
that
we're
22
years
in
it's
time
for
an
update,
and
so
we
want
to
build
on
that
success
and
bring
the
ordinance
in
line
with
what
the
department
as
a
whole
is
trying
to
accomplish
today.
K
So
the
opportunities
we
have
in
front
of
us
to
update
this
ordinance
are
the
following
number
one.
We
want
to
clarify
that
language
so,
as
I
showed
on
the
screen
a
few
minutes
ago,
the
first
one
percent
is
pretty
clear.
The
second
point:
four
percent
is
a
little
less
clear.
It's
again
done
through
the
budget
process,
and
it's
very
unpredictable
in
in
the
sense
that.
H
K
Has
not
been
done
consistently
for
the
last
22
years.
It
has
not
been
done
consistently
across
the
three
funds,
the
general
fund
and
the
two
Enterprise
funds,
and
it
has
not
been
really
clear
how
that
what
that
money
is
being
used
for.
K
We
also
second,
secondarily
want
to
align
the
ordinance,
as
I
mentioned,
with
the
current
Department
Mission,
so
I
put
on
the
timeline.
I
put
the
timeline
up
for
a
reason,
and
that
was
so
that
you
could
see
that
the
ordinance
was
created
before
the
department
was
created,
and
so
what
I'm
trying
to
do
with
this
ordinance
rewrite
or
revision,
is
a
better
way
of
putting
it
is
to
align
those
two
things
make
sure
that
the
ordinance
actually
reflects
what
the
department
is
trying
to
do.
K
I'm,
also
hoping
that
we
can
broaden
the
definition
of
public
art
and
what
the
dollars
can
be
spent
on
and
then
update
basic
things
like
procedural
language
right
now,
the
ordinance
references,
the
the
buy
and
annual
so
every
two
year
budget
process,
and
of
course
we
do
that
on
an
annual
basis.
Now,
so,
with
that,
what
I've?
What
I've
put
on
the
slide
in
front
of
you
here
is
two
boxes
on
the
left.
K
You'll
see
what
the
current
ordinance
has
in
in
it
and
then
on
the
right,
I've
laid
out
what
I'm
hoping
to
do
with
the
ordinance
and
what
we're
what
we're
aiming
to
sort
of
accomplish.
So
on
the
left.
You
can
see
that
the
one
percent
goes
toward
very
basically
public
art,
but
the
language
that's
in
the
ordinance
really
suggests
only
permanent
public
art
and
the
public
art
field
has
grown
and
really
expanded
quite
dramatically
over
the
time
that
the
ordinance
has
been
in
effect.
K
So,
for
example,
things
like
the
traffic
wraps,
the
traffic
box
wraps
are
really
temporary
art
they're
not
intended
to
be
permanent,
they're,
not
they're,
not
necessarily
assets
in
the
collection
that
grow
in
value
or
anything
along
those
lines.
But
even
beyond
that
temporary
public
art
we've
also,
the
field
itself
has
expanded
to
include
something
called
projection:
art
which
is
temporary
art.
You
might
have
gone
to
Garden
City
on
one
of
their
evenings
and
seen
projection
art
all
over
the
city
again.
That
kind
of
programming
does
not
is
not
really
covered
by
the
ordinance.
K
In
addition
to
that
again
to
align
with
what
the
what
the
department
is
really
aiming
to
do
now,
we're
hoping
that
this
that
the
dollars
in
this
ordinance
can
also
be
spent
for
additional
things,
including
artifacts,
if
there's
something
in
the
River
Street
neighborhood,
for
instance,
that
we
want
to
acquire
and
put
in
the
Irma
Hammond
house
as
part
of
our
exhibitions
there
and
part
of
our
programming
there.
We
want
this
ordinance
to
be
able
to
fund
that
sort
of
a
purchase.
K
In
addition
to
that,
we
want
to
do
something
similar
with
our
archives,
if
there's
a
particular
collection
that
makes
sense,
manuscript,
collection
or
otherwise,
for
us
to
acquire
to
enhance
our
understanding
of
the
history
of
the
city
of
Boise,
we
want
the
dollars
to
go
toward
processing
that
sort
of
of
a
collection.
So
what
we're
really
hoping
is
to
permit
these
dollars
to
be
broad?
More
broadly
spent
again
to
bring
that
in
line
with
what
the
department
itself
is
doing
now.
K
I
also
want
to
point
out,
under
the
up
to
0.4,
on
the
left
hand
side
of
this
slide.
As
I
mentioned,
there
has
not
been
a
very
consistent
method
of
collecting
these
dollars
through
the
budget
process,
and
so
we're
hoping
to
make
it
more
consistent,
but
also
the
way
the
language
reads.
Right
now
that
up
to
poor
point
point
four
percent
excuse
me
can
be
used
for
education,
project
management
and
planning.
K
Well,
those
are
things
that,
with
the
mission
of
the
department
today,
which
is
to
you
know,
have
history,
exhibitions
and
libraries
and
other
public
spaces
throughout
the
city,
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
use
these
dollars
for
that
sort
of
programming
as
well.
So
edu,
that's
in
my
mind
that
falls
under
broadly
education,
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
use
the
dollars
for
that.
So
what
we're
proposing
is
to
change
the
way
that
the
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
this
to
the
next
slide
is
change.
K
The
way
we
do
the
funding
so
we're
proposing
that
we
would
increase
the
flat
calculation
from
one
percent
to
1.2
percent
and
I'm
going
to
go
now,
I'm
going
to
switch
back
and
go
to
the
other
slide,
and
what
that
would
do
is
if
we,
if
you
look
at
the
1.2
percent
over
on
the
right
hand,
slide.
That
would
allow
us
to
take
that
uncertainty
out
of
the
annual
budget
request
and
allow
us
to
use
those
funds
again
for
the
education,
the
project,
management
and
planning.
K
What
we
would
do,
then,
with
the
second,
with
the
remaining
0.2
percent.
So
now
it's
from
point
four
on
an
annual
basis
to
0.2
is
really
focus
only
on
maintenance
in
that
point
too,
so
that
it's
a
predictable
amount
of
money
that
we
are
working
right
now
on
a
five-year
maintenance
plan
to
to
demonstrate
so
that
we
know
that,
on
an
annual
basis,
the
assets
that
are
managed
by
our
department
are
being
managed.
The
same
way,
every
other
kind
of
asset
throughout
the
city
is
being
managed,
and
we
do
that.
K
You
know
with
other
Assets
in
the
city
through
the
budget
process.
So
this
is
really
just
bringing
in
line
that
maintenance
with
the
rest
of
the
city
assets.
That's
essentially
what
it's
doing
and
then
allowing
the
point
to
that
goes
toward
education
and
programming
and
things
to
be
part
of
the
flat.
One
point
you
know
going
from
one
percent
to
1.2
percent
instead,
so
I
hope
that
I
have
articulated
all
of
those
changes
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
and
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
stand
for
any
questions.
J
And
a
mayor,
yes,
yeah
I
have
some
questions
great,
go
ahead.
Director
Stevens!
Thanks
for
the
presentation
and
thanks
for
your
work,
six
months
anniversary,
that's
something
to
celebrate!
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
from
a
Clarity
perspective
right
now,
it's
up
to
1.4
percent.
J
So
let
me
ask
you
another
question
and
if
you
don't
have
this
off
the
top
of
your
head,
we
can
get
it
at
another
time.
You
mentioned
that
this
that
there's
been
variability
within
those
numbers
last
year.
Did
the
arts
department
get
the
the
full
1.4
percent,
or
did
it
get
more
than
that
or
less
than
that?
What's
the
what's
the
history
of
the
different
funding.
K
Mayor
and
councilwoman
willitz,
so
that's
a
great
question
and
there's
not
a
straight
answer
to
that,
because
it
has
changed
or
I
should
say
it
varies
from
fun
to
fund
So.
Currently,
we
are
budgeted
for
ninety
thousand
dollars
for
our
care
and
conservation
in
the
general
fund.
K
What
percentage
of
the
total
collection
like?
How
that
relates
to
the
point?
Four
I
can't
give
you
that
number,
but
essentially
what
we've
been
doing
in
the
general
fund
is
to
just
go
in
as
I
understand
it
anyway
and
of
course,
I
haven't
been
present
in
previous
budget
sessions,
but
as
I
understand
it,
it's
been
a
sort
of
a
I
had
to
choose
my
words
carefully,
but
a
less
but
a
less
precise
way
of
funding
than
I
think
I
would
like
to
see
moving
forward.
K
So
what
we're
doing
now
is
we,
like
I,
said
we're
working
on
generating
a
five-year
maintenance
plan
so
that
we
know
every
year
sort
of,
for
instance,
if
there
are
certain
things
that
have
to
get
done
every
year
the
bronze
has
to
get
patinaed
and
cleaned
every
year,
but
electrics
don't
have
to
happen
every
year
right.
K
There's
certain
things
that
have
electric
circuits,
that
or
new
LED
lights
or
whatever
that
maybe
only
need
to
be
replaced
every
five
years,
so
we're
working
on
that
so
that
we
can
identify
exactly
how
much
money
we
need
on
an
annual
basis
and
we
are
trying
to
take
some
of
that
unpredictability
out.
So
as
it
relates
to
the
point,
four
percent
I
can't
tell
you
percentage-wise
exactly
what
that
90
or
90
000.
K
How
that
calculates
with
regard
to
the
percents,
but
I
can
say
that
it
has
not
been
done
in
a
super
precise
way
up
till
now,
and
it
has
not
been
done
with
that
point.
Four
percent
in
mind
as
a
rule
and
I
will
add
one
other
thing,
and
that
is
from
what
I
was
just
explaining
was
the
general
fund.
It's
also
been
variable
from
the
airport
fund
and
the
and
the
Public
Works
fund.
So,
for
example,
an
airport.
We
really
don't
even
have
a
budget
that
we
get
from
them,
we
more
or
less.
K
If
there
is
a
a
problem
with
one
of
the
pieces
out
at
the
airport,
we
go
to
the
airport
and
then
we
do
an
Inc
indirect
cost.
You
know
sort
of
assessment
on
them,
and
so
we
don't
actually
start
there
with
a
budget
at
all,
so
that
actually
points
out
a
great
variability
just
in
terms
of
how
they
calculate
it
or
don't,
because
we
don't
really
get
a
budget
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
versus
how
the
general
fund
does
so.
K
K
We
have
certainly
gone
into
this
with
the
intention
that
it's
going
to
be
flat
that
it's
going
to
be
Revenue
neutral
and
it's
not
going
to
change
the
way
we
we
do
things
and,
in
fact,
well
I,
don't
want
to
promise
that
the
budget's
going
to
go
down
because
I
don't
know
that
it
will
but
I
I
do
think.
What
it's
going
to
do
is
allow
us
to
look
every
year
into
the
future
and
really
have
a
good
handle
on
what
the
costs
are
going
to
be
and
that's
sort
of
the
goal.
K
H
Mm-Hmm,
thank
you
thanks
for
being
here,
Jennifer,
it's
really
great
to
have
this
conversation.
Interesting
I
was
one
of
the
advocates
for
the
original
ordinance,
and
so
it's
kind
of
a
full
circle
moment
right.
H
So
my
question
is
this:
given
that
the
ordinance
is
based
on
Capital
budgets
and
as
we
know,
because
sometimes
big
capital
projects
come
through
like
at
the
airport,
are
at
Solid
Waste
if
we
base
the
I've
always
wanted
this.
If
we
base
the
0.4
percent
on
the
capital
budget,
some
Years
it'll
be
really
big
and
some
years
it
will
be
really
small.
H
But
much
of
the
work
that
goes
on
within
the
0.4
percent
is
more
ongoing.
Work
that's
stable
from
year
to
year,
so
I
think
I
understand
what
you're
trying
to
do
with
this.
The
point
two
percent
creates
at
least
a
stable
understanding
of
what
what
should
come
to
arts
and
history,
but
there's
still
that
uncertainty
based
on
the
size
of
the
capital
projects.
H
So
why
have
you
thought
about
trying
to
to
smooth
that
out?
If
you
will
and
then
the
second
part
of
my
question
is,
does
it
make
sense
to
separate
if
you
will
especially
I
mean
you've
begun
to
do
that
separate
the
maintenance
and
operations
budget
from
the
percent
ordinance
and
base
it
on
the
maintenance
and
operations
needs?
Much
like
we
do
everything
else.
H
K
Okay,
so
I'll
answer
the
402
versus
101
first,
so
you'll
actually
see
in
the
budget
hearings
that
are
coming
down
the
road
and
I
I'm
afraid
you
won't
be
here
anymore
for
that,
unfortunately,
but
we
are
actually
trying
to
solve
some
of
those
problems
and
one
of
the
requests
that
we're
going
to
be
making
is
to
move
some
of
the
402
things
that
we've
used
402
funds
for
into
the
101
fund.
K
K
So
that's
one
of
the
ways
that
we're
planning
to
smooth
that
out
the
ordinances
we've
as
we've
started
to
draft.
It
also
includes
re-budgeting.
So
we
will
make
sure
that
we
have
that
opportunity
every
single
year
to
roll
those
dollars
over
into
the
next
fiscal
year
if
they
haven't
been
used.
So
between
those
two
things
we're
hoping
to
solve
that
that
sort
of
variability
in
the.
In
the
that
point
too,
what
will
become
a
point
to.
H
Vladimir,
if
I
could
follow
up,
thank
you
that
that's
yeah
I,
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
difference.
The
other
question
is
it
necessary
or
wise
to
also
amend
the
ordinance
to
more
clearly
Define
or
more
broadly
Define?
What
a
capital
project
is
I
know
over
the
years
I've
been
here.
H
K
Mayor
and
councilwoman
pledge-
we've
we've
sort
of
tackled
that
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
done
is
to
put
into
the
into
the
ordinance
that
again
we're
in
the
middle
of
drafting
the
the
fat
and
I
I.
Think
this
gets
at
your
question
that
we
would,
if
there
are,
for
instance,
capital
projects
in
the
middle
of
a
year
that
this
would
be
part
of
the
process.
That
would
that
the
same
calculation
would
go
into
a
capital
project
in
the
middle
of
the
year,
as
goes
into
the
sort
of
main
budgeting
process.
K
H
Also,
another
piece
of
that
an
example
I
can
think
of
from
the
past
is
that
when
we
buy
a
new
software,
it
used
to
be
pretty
clear
that
it
was
a
capital
expenditure,
because
it
was
a
product
that
we
bought
and
we
used
now
that
there's
subscription
products
I
think
there's
been
some
I,
don't
know.
Is
it?
Is
it
not
a
capital
project
but,
for
instance,
a
lot
of
the
digital
art
that
we
acquired
about
a
decade
ago
came
from
the
new
Erp
system
purchase.
K
C
Okay,
two
things:
well,
three
things:
first,
I'll
make
my
suggestion
on
the
capital.
Expenditure
would
be
follow
whatever
that
generally
accepted
rules
of
accounting.
Are
it's
a
word
with
a
meaning
that
nice
and
clear
even
in
ambiguous
situations,
accountants
and
lawyers
are
going
to
argue
over
it,
but
like
let
them
do
that
work
if
it
turns
out
to
be
the
wrong
metric,
then
includes
something
other
than
capital
projects
to
get
where
we
need.
C
That's
my
humble
suggestion,
rather
than
doing
the
lift
for
the
entire
United
States
as
it
sorts
out
how
to
account
for
technology,
I
think
I
understand
why
1.2
plus
additional
expenses
versus
one
percent
really
only
for
acquisition.
That
makes
sense,
but
my
big
question
is
very
similar
to
the
one
that
council
member
Clegg
asked
it's
and
I'm
a
Rube
I
don't
actually
understand,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
cost
of
Maintenance,
maintaining
an
archive
or
maintaining
assets
is
the
cost
of
Maintenance.
C
That
cost
is
not
0.2
percent
of
our
capital
budget,
it's
the
cost
of
Maintenance,
and
so
the
council
member's
point
was
certainly
correct.
Some
years
it's
going
to
be
more
in
some
years,
it's
going
to
be
less
and
carrying
it.
Forward
into
the
next
year
is
one
way
to
smooth
that,
but
it
have
you
thought
about
whether
the
answer
to
that
last
Point
too,
is
just.
We
have
a
set
of
costs
that
we
need
the
council
to
fund
it's
not
tied
to
whatever's
being
invested
in
in
the
city.
This
is
just
our
cost.
K
No
I
don't
know
that
we've
actually
thought
about
it
in
exactly
that
way.
Council
council,
member
Beijing
I
think
that
it's
a
very
good
point
and
I
think
that
the
budget
team
has
sort
of
directed
us
that
direction
and
I
think.
A
K
Don't
worry
so
they
haven't
said
in
so
many
words
to
say,
like
don't
worry
about
the
point
two
or
whatever
the
calculation
is,
but
they've
more
or
less
said
what
you
just
said,
which
is
you
know
we
are
going
to
fund
and
and
Council
will
fund,
whatever
needs
to
be
funded
to
take
care
of
these
assets.
So
certainly
that's
something
we
can
go
back,
go
back
and
sort
of
revise
and
look
at
and
I
think
it
goes
back
to
councilwoman.
K
Willis's
comment,
which
is
you
know
where
is
where
is
this
in
terms
of
the
0.4
percent?
Is
you
know,
is
the
ninety
thousand
dollars?
Is
that
representative
of
anything
in
particular?
And
if
really
that
hasn't
been
calculated
in
any
particular
way,
it
might
make
sense
to
just
remove
that
calculation
I
think
that's
a
good
good
question.
I.
C
Mean
I,
don't
know
you
thought
about
it
much
more
than
me,
certainly
and
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
saying
like
hey
go.
Do
it
this
way,
but
it
seems
like
the
connection
between
maintenance
and
capital.
Improvement
projects
is
completely
arbitrary,
except
that
tying
it
to
the
capital
Improvement
projects
kind
of
ensures
that
the
money
is
there,
like.
C
That's
the
whole
function,
but
if
you,
if
you're
just
using
the
last
point,
two
percent
for
maintenance,
then
it's
even
more
arbitrary
and
I
know
like
discount,
like,
like
the
advice
from
the
budget
office,
is
certainly
correct,
like
we're
not
going
to
let
the
bronze
patina
away
or
the
light
bulbs
die,
and
so
maybe
you
know
I'm
not
saying
do
it
this
way,
but
that
that's
the
feedback
that
I
have
that.
Maybe
it's
just
just
ask
us
for
the
money
and
not
tie
it
to
this
formula
that
doesn't
totally
fit.
Thank.
K
A
Well
and
I
just
say,
council,
member,
that
this
is
a
work
session,
so
those
suggestions
make
sense.
You
know
what
my
sense
of
what
the
budget
office
hope
to
see.
What
we
hope
to
see
is
have
a
more
regular,
predictable
and
accountable
way
of
budgeting
for
this
department.
And,
yes,
we
will
always
take
care
of
assets,
or
so
we
think,
however,
when
this
ordinance
was
developed,
it
was
developed
with
that
insurance.
A
But
yes,
the
I
mean
I
have
no
doubt
that
this
Council
would
look
at
the
assets
that
we
have
and
hold
and
say
we
need
to
come
up
with
mno
for
them,
just
as
we
would
a
park
or
any
other
location
in
the
city
and
then
the
other
thing
you
know
so
I.
So
my
sense
is
kind
of
going
back
and
working
on
this
more
there's,
there's
an
openness
to
being
a
little
bit
more
fluid
if
it
makes
sense
but
I
one
of
the
con.
A
The
discussion
points
I
think
the
council
ought
to
have
is
in
the
long
run.
Is
it
better
to
kind
of
stick
with
a
formula
that
then
gets
passed
on
year
by
year?
If
it's
not
used
or
do
we
want
to
just
put
it
into
and
expect
that
mno
would
just
be
covered.
Like
every
other
department
has
it
covered
on
a
regular
basis
in
the
budget
discussions,
but
then
I
want
to
just
turn
back
to
the
other
piece
of
this.
This
isn't
just
about
the
funding
piece.
A
A
A
That
I
believe
that
Jennifer
would
like
some
direction
on
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
the
in
the
final
minutes
that
we
have,
as
she
works
with
her
department,
to
get
this
ready
to
bring
back
for
further
discussion.
Madam.
I
Mayor
I
do
think
that's
an
important
part
of
the
conversation,
because
obviously
I
think
that
when
this
ordinance
was
enacted,
public
art
was
still
kind
of
in
its
infancy.
In
so
many
ways
and
we've
come
such
a
long
way
because
of
our
really
professional
staff
and
the
way
that
our
community
thinks
about
arts
history,
cultural
Assets
in
our
city
and
the
importance
that
people
place
on
that.
I
So
I
think
that
that
is
an
important
piece
and
I
appreciate
your
comments
too,
about
kind
of
professionalizing
the
budget.
It
just
creates
a
little
bit
more
predictability
for
your
department
like
yes,
we
value
cultural
and
art
assets
in
the
city.
I
That
may
be
something
additional,
but
it
feels
like
this
0.2
percent
is
really
kind
of
a
baseline
commitment
to
taking
care
of
those
assets
long
term.
So
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
done
in
your
few
short
months
here
to
look
at
this
a
little
bit
more
comprehensively
so
that
we
can
avoid.
I
Examples
that
we've
had
in
the
past
of
Art,
you
know
beautiful
art,
assets
that
were
not
cared
for
properly
and
that
we
didn't
really
have
the
funding
to
make
sure
that
they
were
preserved
for
longevity,
and
so
hopefully
we
can
avoid
some
of
that
in
the
future.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
arts
and
history
staff
for
all
your
work
too.
C
Thank
you
on
the
I,
don't
know
what
the
word
for
it
is
the
programming
that
the
way
that
art
has
changed-
and
this
is
one
of
these
and
I'm
going
to
show
my
ignorance,
because
it's
not
my
area,
but
you
could
see
on
your
slide
the
history
of
the
or
it
started
as
a
Office
of
the
historian
and
the
historian
traditionally
collects
things
and
documents
and
retains
history,
it's
stuff
right
and
then
it
expands
into
art
and
the
art.
C
Focus
initially
is
still
kind
of
stuff,
and
now
we're
talking
about
performance,
art
or
light
shows
things
that
are
consumed,
but
not
kept
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
But
it
feels
different,
particularly
from
a
funding
mechanism.
That's
tied
to
Capital,
Improvement
and
I.
Don't
know
that
it's
not
the
right
course,
but
it
feels
thematically
very
different
to
me.
C
It
feels
like
money
is
being
used
for
art,
which
is
good
and
correct,
but
it's
being
consumed
by
people
in
this
little
brief
flip
of
time,
and
that
is
the
nature
of
that
art
and
I,
get
it
and
I'm
not.
You
know
not
ranking
things
in
any
way,
but
it
feels
really
different
and
I
would
like
to
be
educated
more
on
it
because
I
don't
it
makes
me
uncomfortable
in
some
way.
K
Madame,
mayor
I,
just
I'll,
just
respond
to
that
briefly,
council
member
agent,
so
one
thing
that
we
have
considered
because
I
think
you're
exactly
right:
it's
sort
of
a
fleeting
temporary
artist,
fleeting
right.
What's
nice
is
we
have
an
archive
and
we
also
have
websites
now
and
and
the
internet
right.
So
we
can
actually
and
plan
to
preserve
those
things
in
our
archives.
So,
for
instance,
if
we
do
a
projection,
art
piece
or
event,
that's
the
kind
of
thing
we
can
preserve
through
digital
recordings
and
keep
in
our
archives.
K
And
then
we
are
also
putting
one
of
our
other
initiatives
is
to
put
all
of
our
public
art
online
so
that
it's
accessible
digitally
to
everybody,
and
so
that
sort
of
thing
would
go
on
there
as
well.
So
it
does
become
a
permanent
asset
of
the
city,
even
though
it's
different
than
the
painting
behind
you
or
the
sculpture.
C
C
K
C
K
H
Mayor,
thank
you
thank
you
for
for
reminding
us
to
also
comment
on
the
cultural
asset
piece
to
me.
This
is
a
really
important
piece
of
addition
to
the
ordinance.
H
Maybe
in
response
to
council
member
of
Agents
comments.
I
guess
to
me
my
one
one
of
the
things
I
was
wondering:
is
it
time
to
actually
rename
the
ordinance
not
just
percent
for
the
art
but
percent
for
arts
and
culture
or
percent
for
arts
and
history,
or
something
so
that
we
recognize
and
I
guess
the
way?