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From YouTube: Citywide Advisory Committee Meeting #2 - 10/15/2020
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Please visit the following link for information on the city's Zoning Code Rewrite: https://www.cityofboise.org/zoning-code-rewrite
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All
right:
well,
we
can
probably
get
started.
Welcome
to
our
second
citywide
advisory
committee
meeting.
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It
is
live
for
individuals,
be
able
to
listen
and
see
what
our
committee
is
up
to
and
what
we're
reviewing
and
taking
a
look
at
so
just
go
ahead
and
know
that
we
are
recording
and
we
will
be
using
zoom
from
here
on
out
and
with
the
zoom
you'll
receive
your
initial
invitation.
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We
also
had
sent
out
a
document
share
site
for
google
drive
for
everyone,
and
we
were
having
a
lot
of
difficulties
with
the
ability
for
you
guys
to
be
able
to
post
on
it,
and
we
can't
seem
to
figure
that
out
so
the
way
to
get
around.
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That
is
going
to
be
for
you
to
send
any
information
that
you'd
like
to
share
to
me
and
then
I
can
post
it
on
there
and
then
we
all
have
the
ability
to
view
that
and
I'm
actually
putting
articles
in
one
area
and
then
we
belong
to
as
the
city
as
members
of
the
american
planning
association.
We
have
a
publication
that
we
have
access
to.
It's
called
zoning
practices,
and
so
I've
gone
ahead
and
created
a
folder
for
that.
But
it's
got
really
great.
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Eight
page
articles
they're
really
easy
to
read:
they're
digestible
and
those
are
all
there
for
you
and
they're
titled
how
they
are.
So
if
you
have
a
particular
interest,
you
may
just
want
to
browse
and
see
what
what
sparks
your
interest
and
what
you
might
be
interested
in.
So
that
is
out
there
and
then
I
just
want
to
give
one
special
plug
to
the
boise
neighborhood
interactive
they'll
be
having
a
three-day
workshop
on
monday,
tuesday
and
wednesday.
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It's
a
free
workshop.
They
have
60
speakers
that
will
be
participating
and
they
will
be
really
talking
about
things
that
are
going
to
come
up
time
and
time
again.
As
we
move
through
the
zoning
code
rewrite
and
as
part
of
that,
we
do
have
a
couple
of
our
members:
that'll
be
guest
speakers,
so
we
have
shellan
rodriguez
and
byron.
Falwell
will
both
be
presenters
at
some
of
those
breakout
sessions
and
then
some
of
our
very
own
project
management
staff,
so
deanna
dupuis
and
cody
riddle
will
also
be
presenting
there.
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And
then
we
have
some
big
names
too
from
the
city.
So
mayor
mclean
will
be
presenting
president
marlene
trump
from
boise
state
university
I'll,
be
there
speaking,
and
then
we
also
have
district
17
senate
candidate
ali
raby
also
will
be
presenting.
So
if
you
are
interested
in
that
I'll
send
a
follow-up,
email
and
I'll
give
you
that
link,
it's
free,
you
can
participate
in
which
events
that
you'd
like
to,
but
it
might
be
helpful
to
you
or
you
may
have
a
specific
interest.
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So
the
price
is
right
and
the
knowledge
will
be
plentiful,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
send
that
out
to
you.
That
is
really
a
good
start
for
all
of
us
today.
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So
we
are
here
for
the
citywide
advisory
committee
meeting
number
two
and
I
did
go
ahead
and
send
out
an
agenda
for
each
one
of
you
and,
of
course,
I'm
going
to
shake
things
up
just
a
little
bit
just
because
I
think
it's
going
to
make
the
momentum
of
the
meeting
go
a
little
bit
better.
If
we
move
the
rules
of
engagement
up
to
the
very
first
item,
this
will
just
be
a
way
for
all
of
us
to
be
able
to
communicate
with
one
another
and
to
really
show
our
expectations.
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These
are
just
some
of
the
very
basics
that
I
came
up
with.
That
might
not
be
for
each
one
of
us
to
to
think
about,
but
we
can
certainly
amend
the
rules
of
engagement
and
add
any.
Should
you
think
that
we
might
have
missed
any
so
really.
They
are
arrived,
prepared
and
ready
to
share
your
thoughts
and
ideas,
keeping
an
open
mind
that
thinks
about
community
and
when
we
say
community
thinking
about
the
big
picture,
treating
others
with
kindness
listening
actively
and
not
interrupting
others
being
ready
to
learn
as
well
as
doing
our
personal
best.
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Else
that
anybody
else
would
like
to
to
throw
out
there,
okay
and
then,
just
as
I
have
been
on
each
one
of
the
agendas
I'll
go
ahead
and
include
those
rules
of
engagement
there,
so
that
we're
reminded
of
you
know
how
we
can
be
an
active
participant
and
then
we'll.
I
will
always
keep
you
know
our
goal
of
the
process
there
too,
just
to
give
us
a
reminder
of
what
we're
here
for
then
next.
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I
think
really
talking
about
what
the
mayor
has
set
forth
for
our
vision
and
mission,
because
those
are
really
our
goals
and
what
we're
going
to
be
striving
for,
and
so
these
are
things
that
we're
going
to
want
to
keep.
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In
the
back
of
our
mind,
the
vision
really
sets
the
course
for
what
we
want
our
city
to
be,
and
that
has
been
identified
as
creating
a
city
for
everyone,
and
that
means
individuals
of
of
all
races,
all
colors,
all
education
levels,
all
ages,
really
every
single
person
that
lives
or
interacts
in
the
city
as
they
visit,
and
you
know,
to
provide
us
that
road
map
for
achieving
the
vision,
really
the
city
of
boise,
will
be
creating
a
city
for
everyone
by
embracing
our
community
in
the
decision-making
process
through
in
innovating,
and
investing
to
protect
our
environment
and
ensuring
a
thriving
local
economy
that
benefits
all.
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And
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
all
knew
what
that
vision
is.
What
that
mission
is
and
understand,
then
what
those
strategic
priorities
are.
And
so,
when
we
talk
about
those
strategic
priorities,
the
mayor
has
clearly
identified
six
major
components
of
that
and
really
it's
a
safe
and
healthy
city
for
everyone.
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And
what
that
means
is
ensuring
that
our
public
safety
agencies
are
made
up
of
kind,
compassionate
individuals
that
are
really
committed
to
serving
our
community.
So
they're
treating
people
with
kindness,
they're
treating
people
fairly
and
appropriately,
and
they
have
the
training
that
they
need
to
do
the
services
that
they
need
to
do
because
we
heavily
rely
on
those
individuals.
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Then
we
have
third,
which
is
movement
for
everybody,
which
is
really
ensuring
that
our
transportation
system
provides
us
with
choices
to
bus
bike,
walk
drive
or
any
mode
of
of
movement.
That
would
allow
people
to
move
from
their
homes
to
those
services,
employment,
centers,
recreation
areas
and
any
location
that
might
be
in
between
those.
So
we
want
to
move
people
comfortably
effectively
and
make
sure
that
we're
giving
them
a
choice
on
what
is
right
for
them
or
or
even
the
types
of
services
that
are
available
to
them.
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A
clean
study
for
everyone
is
an
important
one.
So
that's
really
where
we're
going
to
talk
about
our
environment,
protecting
our
clean
air
and
our
clean
water,
making
sure
that
we
have
quality
parks
and
open
spaces
as
well
as
pathways
to
to
utilize.
So
so
anybody,
that's
interested
in
the
environmental
it'll,
be
the
clean
city
for
everyone
as
far
as
the
opportunity
for
everyone
that
is
really
promoting
economic
prosperity
so
that
we
have
employment
that
offers
family
supporting
wages
and
benefits.
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And
then,
finally,
but
not
last,
it's
engaging
everyone,
so
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
being
accessible
and
transparent
in
what
we're
doing.
We
also
want
to
provide
opportunities
for
collaboration
for
everyone
in
the
community
to
be
able
to
shape
their
future,
so
providing
them
with
access
to
zoom
link,
providing
them
access
to
youtube
so
that
they
can
see
really
the
city
interactive
and
see
what's
happening
and
how
those
decisions
are
being
made
so
that
they
can
be
a
part
of
the
bigger
picture
as
well.
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So
just
kind
of
a
brief
exercise,
you
know:
does
anybody
have
any
strategic
priorities
that
they
think
that
really
resonates
with
them,
one
that
they're
probably
going
to
participate
in
more
than
another?
Or
you
know?
Maybe
they
have
an
expertise
on
that
or
even
just
an
interest.
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Hi
there
this
is
brad
nielsen,
I
think
probably
one
that
stands
out
here.
The
most
is
this
movement
for
everyone.
I've
been
looking
into
it,
and
I've
noticed
that
there
is
no
busing
beyond
overland
road
south.
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This
is
byron
falwell
home,
for
everyone
is
certainly
more
in
my
wheelhouse,
but
I'm
specifically
excited
about
the
everyone
concept.
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J
Hey
andrea
danley
here
I
guess
I'm
quite
interested
in
the
intersection
of
a
home
for
everyone
movement
for
everyone
in
a
clean
city
for
everyone
and
the
ways
that
we
could
grow
as
a
city
that
would
serve
those
three
things
together
and
how
the
work
of
this
committee
could
actually
serve
those
three
things.
At
the
same
time,.
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K
This
is
roberta
d'amico.
I
find
it
difficult
to
disengage
one
from
the
other,
because
I
think
they're
all
very
integrated.
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And
so
that,
but
the
engaging
everyone
is
probably
one
to
me
that
can
make
or
break
whatever
we
do
and
how
we
help
the
public
understand
this.
I
certainly
know
that
I
have
a
lot
to
learn,
and
so
that's
how
I
hope
to
engage,
because
just
to
rethink
things,
to
make
it
clear
to
the
public.
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Hey
andrea,
this
is
ian
similar
to
what
daniel
and
roberta
said,
I'm
interested
in
kind
of
the
spaces
in
between
each
of
these
categories
and
opportunities
that
they
might
afford
us
to
help
tie
all
them
together.
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Hi,
yes,
brad
again,
in
addition
to
that,
that
you
know
that
movement
for
everyone
not
only
the
busing
or
transportation,
but
how
how
much
influence
we
have
on
road
development
around
some
of
these
major
subdivisions
and
apartment
buildings.
And
you
know
I
don't
know
what
our
input
is
going
to
be
as
far
as
road
development.
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C
Is
great,
you
know,
I
think
we
heard
a
lot
of
really
great
comments
and
the
really
big
things
that
stood
out
was
the
everyone
piece
so
making
sure
that
our
residents
of
of
all
different
types
and
visitors
as
well.
C
We
often
times
for
get
to
think
about
the
portion
of
the
conversation,
that's
missing.
That
has
to
do
with
the
community's
vision
itself.
So
what
do
they
value?
What
do
they
think
about
themselves?
And
so
I
think
we
are
going
to
in
our
next
activity
really
kind
of
engage
a
little
bit
further.
So
what
does
that
boise
value
about
itself?
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C
So
our
next
slide
is
really
focusing
on
that
that
that
community
vision-
and
you
know
what
do
we
care
about
as
individuals?
What
do
we
care
about
as
groups?
What
do
we
care
about
as
boiseans
and
to
participate
in
this
activity?
We
are
going
to
use
a
facilitator,
it's
called
jamboard
and
so
in
the
chat,
we
will
have
a
an
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
the
link
there
and
it
will
allow
us
to
participate
in
what
do
we
care
about
and
deanna?
Do
you
want
to
share
your.
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J
Andrew
did
you
say
daniel
no
deanna,
deanna?
Okay,
thank
you.
N
Where
are
we
at
here
we
go.
If
everyone
can
see
my
screen,
I
so
you
should
be
able
to
click
this
in
the
chat.
Hopefully,
everyone
has
access
to
their
chat
and
if
you
click
this,
it
will
take.
You
someone's
already
started.
Writing
perfect
we're
going
to
use
this
as
kind
of
like
a
it's.
An
online
post-it
board
fun
way.
So
our
first
question
is:
what
do
you
value
and
if
you
click
this
little
button
right
here,
it
will
pop
up
and
you
can
write,
write
everything.
N
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E
N
C
D
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C
You
know,
what's
important
to
us
and
and
really
what
do
we
value.
So
this
is
pretty
exciting
that
all
of
these
ideas
and
thoughts
they
all
fall
into
those
categories
which
is
going
to
make
it
much
easier
for
us
to
be
able
to
think
about
these
things
and
an
understanding
that
hey.
This
is
really
what
we
value
an
interesting
thought.
C
The
other
day
I
heard
when
we
are
examining
our
population
growth,
we're
having
seven
individuals
moving
into
our
metropolitan
area
every
hour
and
will
continue
to
do
so
for
like
the
next
10
years,
and
so
we
are
really
evolving
we're
growing,
very
fast,
and
so
we
are
going
to
have
to
make
some
changes,
but
we
need
to
clearly
identify
what's
important
to
us
truly
what
we
value
as
a
community
so
that
we
can
preserve
those
things.
C
So
we
can
enhance
those
things
and
we
can
protect
those
things
so
that
we
don't
lose
that
even
knowing
that
we
are
going
to
have
additional
traffic,
we
are
going
to
have
to
house
additional
people.
We
are
going
to
to
have
new
companies
moving
into
our
area,
so
we
need
to
make
room
for
each
one
of
those,
and
this
is
really
really
great.
You
guys.
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C
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N
Infrastructure,
I
also
saw
several
you
know,
thinking
three
generations
out
that
this
is
really
that's
a
unique
thing
about
zoning
that
it's
for
us.
You
know
five
years
10
years,
20
50
yeah,
my
great-grandchildren,
I
thought
that's
in
it
interesting.
N
A
It's
nice
to
see
growth
being
centralized
in
a
lot
of
these
I'll
say
that
I
think
we
have
a
good
group
of
people
here
that
are
specifically
focusing
in
on
growth
issues,
and
you
can
see
that
in
these
ideas,.
J
Andrea,
this
is
daniel.
You
know
one
thing
I
always
try
to
think
about
when
people
are
kind
of
your
hopes
or
where
are
they
in
tension?
You
know,
and
so
I
think,
there's
I
see
a
lot
of
commonality
here,
but
I
also
kind
of
you
know.
Part
of
the
work
we're
going
to
have
to
do
is
is
to
converge,
you
know
and
and
in
our
differences,
and
so
I
see
lots
in
common
and
then
I
do.
J
J
You
know,
you
know
lots
of
housing
or
there
could
be
tension
between
you
know
more
housing
in
many
forms
and
you
know
preserving
you
know,
maintaining
the
boise
lifestyle.
I
mean,
I
don't
think,
there's
attention,
but
some
people
may
think
those
are
intention.
So
I
just
think
it's
you
know
it's
interesting
to
kind
of
look
at
that
and
say:
is
there
can
you
can
you
find?
You
know
two
stickies
that
you
feel,
if
maybe
not
are
in
conflict
are
at
least
you
feel
like
their
intention.
J
Like
so
lower
property
tax
could
be
in
tension
with
more
transit,
which
is
a
theme
I've
seen
what
are
some
other
things
that
could
be
intention
again.
You
could
argue
that
the
current
boise
lifestyle
is
pretty
car
dependent.
You
know
most
people
get
around
in
their
cars
and
so
that
again
could
be
in
tension
with
some
of
the
sentiments
for
more
options
to
not
have
to
use
a
car.
Just,
I
think
it's
kind
of
interesting
to
kind
of
see
if
you
or
others
see
things
it
might
be
intention.
D
N
Do
go
ahead,
oh
yeah,
and
I
think
you
know
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up
daniel.
That
know
some
of
what
our
hopes
are
may
feel
in
conflict
and
that's
where
we
asked
before
what
are
your
values.
So
if
we
could
work
backwards
from,
you
know
we're
hoping
for
this
outcome
and
if
we,
if
some
of
those
outcomes,
feel
like
they're
in
conflict,
well,
what
let's
step
backwards
to
say?
N
Okay,
where
can
we
find
something
to
move
us
forward
if
it's
a
shared
value,
for
you
know
being
able
to
get
to
those
opportunities?
Is
it
that
we
have
economic
opportunity
where
we
need
it?
And
so
it's
that's
where
we
have
to
waive
the
transportation
with
the
property
tax
and
that
those
are
going
to
have
to
be
the
trade-offs
we'll
have
to
think
of
in
this
process.
B
I
I
like
daniel,
have
been
enjoying
all
of
these.
I
think
all
of
us
are
interested
in
what
the
posts
are
showing
and
what
goes
through
my
mind
is
in
rewriting
an
ordinance
is
the
fun
part
of
this
process
in
my
mind,
on
the
twisted
mind,
but
is
the
codifying
of
a
number
of
these
things
that
growth
is
done
sustainably?
B
How
do
you
codify
that?
How
do
you?
How
do
we
adjust
our
ordinances
to
pick
on
these,
to
highlight
and
accentuate
these
really
valuable
comments,
and
so
that's
what
the
fun
part
of
this
whole
thing
is
all
about,
but
things
like
that
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
are
are
not
physical
but
they're
very
much
they're,
very
much
a
part
of
an
aesthetic
or
part
of
an
experience,
and
so
we
we
get
to
start
to
think
about
these
in
that
more
physical
zoning
mentality.
So
really
great.
G
B
G
This
is
patrick
one
thing:
that's
really
exciting
to
me
is,
as
mr
elliott
pointed
out
at
our
last
meeting,
we're
ultimately
going
to
end
up
with
a
combination
of
performance-based,
form-based
and
use-based
zoning
and
having
those
three
different
frameworks
really
allows
us
a
lot
of
flexibility
to
pursue
a
lot
of
these
goals
simultaneously
and
even
if
there's
some
surface
tension
between
them.
So
having
you
know
doing
this
whole
process
from
the
start
and
bringing
all
of
the
frameworks
to
bear
really
gives
us
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
cover
much
of
this
ground.
H
What
I'm
appreciating
is
that
everything
that
we've
put
up
on
this
brainstorming
board
is
reflected
in
blueprint
boise,
and
so
I
think
you,
you
have
all
done
a
phenomenal
job
in
the
past.
However,
many
years
in
considering
all
of
these
perspectives
and
really
creating
a
vision
and
a
road
map
that
takes
it
all
into
consideration,.
F
To
follow
up
on
on
francis's
point
there
I
think
yeah
and
you
look
at
across
the
board
here
and
all
these
these
different,
perhaps
conflicting,
perhaps
not,
and
just
like
blueprint
boise
as
often
as
said
you
know,
no
one
parcel
can
fulfill
all
the
goals
and
policies
of
of
blueprint
boise,
but
when
I
think
about
what
our
task
is
here,
one
of
the
main
challenges
that
I
see-
and
I
think
it's
kind
of
reflected
on
this
board-
is
when
we
you
know
currently.
F
F
Whether
or
not
they
do
is
that
you
know
that's
another
question,
but
they
can
they
have
that
legal
power,
even
in
idaho,
where
property
rights
are
extremely
strong.
Now,
once
we
change
the
zoning,
if
we
do
so
to
allow
more
density
by
legislative
action,
that
power
then
is
removed
from
the
city
council,
and
so
I
don't
understand
how
many
of
these
goals,
unless
we
manage
to
codify
them
somehow,
along
with
any
increase
in
density,
I
don't
understand
how
that
power
will
then
be
maintained
by
our
elected
officials.
F
B
Richard
this
is
andy
erstein
again,
I
think
we
have
a
great
opportunity
as
we
go
through
the
zoning
rewrite
to
help.
B
You
know
maintain
the
sort
of
the
strength
of
the
ordinance
if
it's,
if
it's
about
density,
the
ordinance
can
also
address
things
like
design
review
and
peer
review
things
peer
review
on
applications
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
I
think
there's
a
I
think
again,
there's
another
great
opportunity
to
balance
things
such
as
density
with
design
reviews
and
design
guidelines
and
things
of
that
nature,
which
the
city
has
a
really
pretty
robust
set
of
guidelines
right
now.
So
hopefully
that
will
be
one
of
our
discussion
points
later
on
in
the.
C
Process,
I
would
agree
with
you
andy
that
you
know
density.
You
know
we
will
evaluate
that
when
we
are
talking
about.
You
know,
where
is
the
appropriate
places
for
uses
to
be
located?
Should
we
have
mixed-use
developments
and
where
are
those
appropriate
and
then
really
focusing
on
the?
C
C
So
they're
gonna
have
some
really
good
ideas
of.
What's
worked,
what
hasn't,
and
you
know
what
what
we
could
have
done
better
or
more,
and
then
us
as
users
and
our
unique
experiences
they're
all
going
we're
all
going
to
have
additional
input
too
on.
You
know
how
we
want
to
feel
as
individuals
or
families.
C
C
E
E
E
E
E
N
L
Andrea,
this
is
ian.
I
think
one
thing
that
I
that
resonates
with
me
is
the
anywhere
usa
and
walgreens
on
every
corner.
I
I
really
like
that
certain
areas
of
boise
are
are
devoid
of
that
and
they're.
They
feel
like
boise
and
not
like
another
city.
So
how
how
we
work
to
retain
that
feeling,
I
think,
is,
is
a
good
opportunity.
J
Andrea,
I'm
just
the
the
blue
comment.
You
know
newcomers
want
to
change
boise
to
what
they
left
behind
and
I
I
would
say
you
know
one
of
my
I
you
know
I
went
to
high
school
here,
but
I
lived
in
live
most
of
my
adult
life
in
seattle
and
I
just
saw
what
I
what
I
thought.
Seattle
just
make
a
huge
mistake
in
not
allowing
for
enough
housing
and
just
housing
prices
got
so
crazy
there
and
their
house.
Their
homelessness
problem
got
so
crazy
there.
J
So
I'm,
I
would
say,
I'm
kind
of
a
newcomer
who
really
doesn't
want
that
to
happen
here
and
that
informs
that's.
When
my
big
fear
is
that
we're
not.
You
know
that
we're
not
gonna
and
have
enough
housing
of
all
shapes
and
sizes
to
accommodate
the
people
who
want
to
live
here
and,
and
that
and
like
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
cities
that
don't
get
that
right,
it's
really
it's
bad.
M
One
of
my
fears
would
be
that
boise
grows
to
be
a
place
where
people
don't
want
to
live
anymore,
because
we
have
either
outgrown
our
natural
resources
like
water.
We
are
in
a
desert
or
there's
just
no
room
to
do
the
things
that
we'd
like
to
do
like,
there's
only
so
many
parking
spots
at
bogus,
there's
only
so
much
room
on
the
river
there's
only
one
green
belt.
You
know
all
the
the
new
population
affects
everybody
else's
ability
to
enjoy
those
things.
B
I
look
at
the
I
look
at
the
north
end
where
a
home
used
to
be
a
hundred
and
well
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
now
they're
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
it's
because
it's
a
really
desirable
place
to
be
so.
How
do
we
take
the
zoning
ordinance
and
try
and
create
that
same
type
of
fabric
in
other
areas
and
or
or
promote
it,
enhance
it?
I
think,
out
of
these
spheres.
I
Yeah
this
is
brad
I
have
I
was
I'm
born
and
raised
here
in
boise,
so
this
is
not
the
boise
that
I
know
anymore.
I
I
It's
good
to
recognize
or
see
that
other
people
recognize
the
same
problems
that
I
I
do.
I
like
the
fact
that
somebody
mentioned
a
couple
of
the
posts
that
I
put
out
there.
There
seems
to
be
so
much
anger
on
the
roads
and
stuff
we
keep
talking
about
community
and
getting
together,
and
all
that
just
seems
so
much
density
that
we're.
I
I'm
not
a
real
social
person,
so
I
only
see
people
on
the
road,
so
it
just
seems
like
we're
so
impacted
by
people.
I
You
know
I'm
trying
to
work
just
right.
I
had
a
lot
of
thoughts,
but
it's
all
trying
to
get
it
out.
It's
a
little
difficult.
This
is
kind
of
emotional
for
me.
Seeing
all
this
like,
I
said
I
grew
up
here
in
this.
This
is
a
different
world
that
we're
living
in
now,
but
it
seems
like
really
angry
on
the
road.
I
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
way
to
handle
some
of
this,
so
we
don't
notice
all
the
people
that's
going
to
be
my
highest
priority
is
is
to
get
things
to
flow
a
little
better
around
here,
but
it
is
encouraging.
Like
again,
it
is
encouraging
to
see
that
I
don't
know
anybody's
history
here.
I
really
don't
so
I
don't
it's
just
nice
to
see
that
it's
there's
the
same
concerns
from
maybe
somebody
who's
lived
here.
The
whole
life
versus
somebody
who's
just
showed
up.
I
I
A
That
are
very
similar
to
the
boise
that
I
grew
up
in.
I
think
it
kind
of
comes
down
to.
A
A
I'm
also
kind
of
encouraged
to
see
that
a
lot
of
our
fears
and
a
lot
of
our
hopes
in
this
group
are
kind
of
aligning
themselves
together.
That
to
me
indicates
that
well,
first
of
all
that
I
think
this
group
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
anyone
seems
to
feel
comfortable
airing
their
fears.
That's
something
that's
kind
of
vulnerable,
something
that
not
everyone
wants
to
do.
D
A
Yeah,
apologies,
I
think
it's.
I
think
it's
notable.
A
A
Maybe
I'll
hold
off
saying
anything
for
now
and
I'll
just
write
it
in
the
chat
until
I
can
get
that
figured
out.
A
All
right,
brad
to
your
point,
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
encouraging
that
people
are
in
this
group
at
least,
are
willing
to
put
voice
to
their
fears
and
that
a
lot
of
our
fears
and
a
lot
of
our
hopes
are
in
alignment
with
each
other.
A
I
I
don't
know
that
I
experience
the
same
boise
that
you
do
now
or
the
one
that
you
remember
growing
up
with,
and
I
grew
up
here
as
well,
but
I
am.
I
am
encouraged
that
we
it's
going
to
take
all
of
us
together
to
kind
of
help
usher
in
this
next
age
of
boise,
because,
as
you
said,
it
is
sort
of
inevitable
that
it's
going
to
change.
A
But
thank
you
for
your
point.
I
I
understand
what
you're.
A
N
F
So
this
is
not
a
fear
actually,
so
it's
a
little
misplaced,
but
I
do
want
to
say
some
of
us.
A
few
of
us
were
on
the
last
advisory
committee,
the
the
one
day
at
met,
and
one
of
my
fears
has
somewhat
been
laid,
which
I
really
appreciate.
I
I
really
appreciate
the
diversity,
especially
geographic
diversity,
we're
seeing
here
and
just
different
people
from
different
back
backgrounds.
F
E
C
We
have
some
people
from
you,
know
the
central
portions
of
boise
and
then
we
kind
of
extend
everywhere.
So
we've
got
people
in
the
area
of
impact
southwest
boise,
northwest
boise
and,
what's
really
exciting,
is
is
that
everybody
seems
to
have
you
know
similar
hopes
and,
and
they
all
really
do
tie
back
to
what
our
strategic
priorities
are,
and
they
even
tie
back
to
what
our
comprehensive
plan
is,
and
so
our
duty
is
going
as
a
group
is
going
to
be.
C
You
know
I'm
seeing
a
lot
of
things
that
you
know,
people
that
were
have
a
fear
of
density
or
fear
that
bike
routes
aren't
safe.
C
You
know,
maybe
that's
the
way
we
have
been
doing
it.
Maybe
there's
a
new
way
of
doing
it.
That
is
different.
Maybe
we
can
design
our
streets
where
our
bike
routes
and
our
pedestrians
are
safe,
where
we
can
create
density
that
is
appropriate.
It's
people,
scaled
and
people
feel
safe
and
they
feel
like
they
have
unique
spaces
and
they
offer
a
place
for
people
of
all
different
types
and
diversity.
C
I
This
is
brad.
Can
I
I
have
a
question,
that's
a
little
off
topic,
but
I'm
just
curious.
So
what
is
what
are
our
boundaries
of
influence?
I
notice
there's
a
posted
here
about
bringing
communities
together
like
meridian
and
cult
or
nampa
caldwell
eagle,
cuna,
everybody
with
the
same
vision.
But
what
is
our
boundary
of
influence.
C
It
will
only
impact
the
city
of
boise
as
it
exists
today,
but
thinking
about
in
the
future
that
it
will
also
incorporate
the
area
of
impact
as
well
and
so
we'll
be
looking
at
kind
of
those
two
lines.
But
if
you
take
a
look
back
even
at
the
chat
drew
alexander
had
posted,
you
know
that
yeah,
the
city
of
boise
is
growing
quickly,
but
our
surrounding
areas
are
as
well
and
the
city
of
boise
is
an
economic
hub.
C
We
have
boise
state
university
and
we
have
a
number
of
cultural
draws
that
bring
people
from
the
region,
and
so
you
know
their
growth
has
a
direct
impact
on
our
infrastructure
and
needs
as
well.
So
you
know
we
will
have
to
be
mindful
of
those
types
of
things
as
well.
So
yes,
we'll
be
working
on
creating
our
own
yard
and
making
sure
that
it
looks
good.
But
you
know
it's
going
to
have
to
transition
and
it's
going
to
have
to
complement
our
region
as
well.
I
So
you're
saying
that
it's
the
city
limits
that
are
fl
influence,
that's
correct,
so
because
there's
so,
like
you
said,
there's
so
many
things
going
on
outside
of
the
city
limits
that
are
drawing
resources
from
you
know
the
city,
and
it
just
seems
like
there's
less
room
to
develop
within
the
city
and
outside
of
the
city,
is
where
everything's
blowing
up
and
not
being
monitored.
I
mean,
as
the
same
so
seems
like
the
wild
west
out
outside
the
city
limits,
and
anything
goes
so
who
who
has
influence
over
that.
C
C
You
know
our
our
water
within
the
boise
river
does
not
stay
in
city
limits,
it
doesn't
know
boundaries,
and
so
you
know
that
water
comes
from
somewhere
and
it
goes
somewhere.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
responsibility
as
we
draft
this.
P
Andrea,
could
I
could
I
chime
in
just
real
quickly.
I've
tried
to
try
to
largely
just
largely
listen
brad,
just
one
one
comment
on
that,
as
you
think
about
the
zoning
ordinance.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
vacant
ground
left
in
boise
you're
right,
but
we
do
we
do
have.
There
is
quite
a
bit
of
vacant
ground
in
our
area
of
impact,
say
in
the
southwest
and
then
sort
of
that
east
columbia,
micron
area.
P
Q
So
andrea
this
disaster.
Yes,
just
a
quick
comment:
brad,
I
don't
know
if
you've
spent
any
time
reading
the
blueprint
for
growth,
I
don't
know
the
proper
name.
It's
been
in
existence
for
quite
some
time
and
if
I
recall-
and
this
was
some
time
ago,
if
I
recall
the
goal-
was
to
get
other
cities
to
sign
on
to
that
plan,
and
so
I
think
you
know
in
terms
of
foundation,
you
know
the
cities
and
this
effort
that
we're
undergoing
is
obviously
different.
Q
But-
and
I
don't
know-
maybe
this
is
too
too
far
ahead
andre.
I
don't
know
if
you
could
speak
to
this,
but
as
we
progress
with
the
rezone,
would
the
city
at
any
time
entertain
the
idea
of
maybe
going
back
to
blueprint.
C
Well,
let
me
see
if
I
understand
your
question
correctly
so
are
you
asking?
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
go
back
and
evaluate
blueprint,
boise,
which
is
our
city's
comprehensive
plan.
Q
Well,
because
we're
gonna
we'll
we'll
work
on
this
rezone
right
and
who
knows
what
what
will
transpire
from
these
efforts,
but
would
we
be
going
back
into
the
blueprint
for
growth
plan
and
making
any
changes
or
or
would
the
city
go
back
and
consider
making
any
updates
to
it
if
there's
anything
that
significantly
changes
from
the
from
these
efforts?
C
So
blueprint
for
good
growth
was
actually
it
began
with
achd
understanding
that
the
transportation
infrastructure
could
only
handle
so
much,
and
so
they
wanted
to
get
all
of
the
jurisdictions
together
to
really
look
at
what
their
comprehensive
plan
said
and
and
ask
them
and
hold
them
accountable
to
what
they
had
agreed
to.
But
a
lot
of
people
kind
of
fell
off
the
wagon.
C
You
know,
I
think
it's
always
a
goal
if
we
can
collaborate
and
get
different
people
at
the
table
and
looking
at
things,
but
that
would
really
take
a
lot
of
political
will
so
that
that
would
really
be
up
to
them.
In
regard
to
that.
J
You
bet
andrea,
I
mean,
I
think
it's
one
way,
I
think
about
the
our
relationship
to
the
rest
of
the
region,
and
you
know
it
may
be
a
little
bit
simplistic
is
that
is,
I
think
the
valley
is
going
to
accommodate,
is
going
to
absorb
a
certain
number
of
people,
whether
we
and
just
because
they're.
You
know,
because
this
region
is
attractive
for
all
the
reasons
that
we
know
because
of
employment
and
so
questions
are
they
going
to
be
distributed.
J
Then
they're
then
they're
not
going
to
end
up
on
the
edge,
and
so
I
think
part
of
that
sort
of
part
of
what
we
can
and
if
we
can
do
it
in
ways
that
they
can
get
around
and
you
know
get
to
the
job
and
get
to
the
school
and
get
to
the
grocery
store
without
having
to
jump
in
a
car,
then
that
you
know
I
think,
may
address
you
know
some
of
brad's
concerns
about.
You
know
some
of
the
wackiness
out.
J
You
know
in
terms
of
congested
roads,
it
may
not
solve
it
but
at
least
give
people.
You
know
an
alternative,
but
I
do
think
it's
worth.
I
think
if
we
were
able
to
come
up
with
a
plan
that
we
agreed
on
that
allowed
more
growth
to
happen
within
boise
city
limits,
then
I
think,
just
because
of
economics
and
the
way
regions
work.
It
just
means
there's
going
to
be
less
development
that
happens
at
the
edge.
F
I
guess
I
I'm.
I
would
dispute
that.
I
think
it's
good
that
we
have
this
conversation,
maybe
now
so
we
don't
have
to
keep
having
it
later.
Just
very
briefly,
I
think
that
there
would
be
a
lot
of
situations
where
that
would
be
true,
but
I
don't
believe
that
the
treasure
valley
has
kind
of
the
dynamics
in
which,
if
we
allow
more
growth
in
one
area,
less
will
happen
in
another.
F
I
believe
that
we
have
to
make
determined
choices
at
the
area
and
that's
the
only
you
know
in
terms
of
what
we
think
we
should
have,
and
I'm
not
saying
we
shouldn't
have
been
more
density
and
boise,
I'm
just
thinking
that
we
should
have
more
density
in
boise
only
because
we
want
more
density
in
boise,
not
because
we
think
that
that
will
keep
star
from
you
know,
moving
on
their
plans
to
become
a
city
of
200
000,
which
they
have
so
yeah.
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there.
F
I
I
really
hope
we
will
focus
on
the
values
for
every
kind
of
land
use
that
we
consider
in
and
of
itself,
but
not
be
under
the
impression
that
I
will
prevent
more
growth
somewhere
else,
because
I
just
don't
think
that
will
happen
in
boise
or
the
larger
treasure
valley
right
now,
there's
just
too
many
people
who
want
to
move
here
anyway,
I'll
shut
up
on
that
one.
I
Yes,
brad.
I
was
curious
about
accountability
for
those
who
are
developing
this
area.
There's
been
a
lot
of
big
names
that
have
popped
up
or
become
big
names
in
the
last
five
years,
we're
talking
our
corey
bartons
and
the
hubble's
and
the
you
know,
mark
bottles
and
the
tio,
and
you
know
van
arker's,
been
around
forever
but
he's
sold
off
now,
but
how
much
accountability
do
they
have
for
what
they
are
doing
to
the
properties?
I
As
far
as
road
development,
we
seem
to
be
putting
big
subdivisions
in
on
both
sides
of
the
street
and
we're
still
driving
down
a
single
lane
or
double
lane
road
and
sometimes
without
even
a
stop
light.
C
So
what
happens
is
once
we
receive
a
development
application?
We
send
out
a
transmittal
to
all
the
agencies.
That
would
be
impacted
by
that
and
they
all
have
their
own
code
similar
to
what
we
do.
So
they
have
their
tools
to
implement
what
their
goals
are,
and
so
they
let
us
know
what
would
be
required
as
part
of
their
code.
So
we're
unique
in
the
fact
that
achd
has
control
over
our
roadways
and
all
the
roadways
within
ada
county,
and
so
they
have
some
guidance
as
far
as
you
know,
the
structural
pieces
of
that.
C
So
how
that
roadway
is
constructed,
how
wide
it
is
whether
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk
is
required,
but
the
city
can
also
have
you
know
some
say
in
regard
to
that.
Unfortunately,
we
kind
of
have
to
collaborate
with
them
that
it
will
never
always
be
our
way
because
we
don't
own.
Nor
do
we
maintain
those
roadways
and
because
they
have
that,
you
know
that's
their
ability
to
to
limit
what
is
required.
C
So
if
we're
talking
about
on
some
of
our
busier
roadways,
which
we'll
call
collectors
or
arterials
you
know,
they
may
only
be
responsible
for
doing
sidewalk
or
they
may
say
that
sidewalk
is
inappropriate
and
so
they're
not
required
to
do
anything.
And
so
we
really
have
to
think
about.
You
know
what
do,
how
is
transportation
impacted
and
so
we'll
ask
them
going
throughout
the
process
to
participate
with
us
as
well,
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
get
that
collaborative
vision
so
that
we
get
a
seamless
system.
C
I
mean
oftentimes
the
best
way
that
I
can
explain
it
is
you
know
a
development
goes
in
and
they
do
their
infrastructure,
so
they're
kind
of
one
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
they
do
that
piece
of
the
roadway
and
then
another
development
goes
in.
So
sometimes
it
ends
up
sporadic
until
all
of
the
pieces
are
laid
out
and
put
together,
and
then
we
have
a
larger
picture,
but
sometimes
that
doesn't
always
work.
G
Just
just
that
in
of
itself,
is
a
good
thing
full
stop,
especially
for
the
people
that
would
be
our
new
neighbors.
So
the
principle
by
itself
is
a
benefit
without
even
having
to
resort
to
other
side
secondary.
B
Effects
andrea-
this
is
andy
urstead
again.
B
One
of
the
things
I
I
want
to
caution
us
all
to
maybe
steer
clear
of
is
the
notion,
because
there's
there's
two
sides
of
the
story:
that
developers
don't
pay
their
way
or
developers
do
pay
their
way,
and
maybe
part
of
the
process
here
is
learning
about.
B
When
the
highway
district
assesses
a
project
the
developers
are
are
assessed
an
impact
fee,
in
addition
to
paying
for
all
the
infrastructure
and
roads
and
whatnot
within
their
developments,
there's
an
impact
fee
that
goes
beyond
the
boundaries
for
the
highway
district,
to
use,
we're
here
to
write
and
rewrite
and
update
and
inspire
the
ordinance,
and
I
think
we
can.
We
can
tell
spin
and
get
really
off
track
if,
if
we
think
that's,
if
we
think
we're
going
to
solve
that
problem,
that
problem
is
a
highway
district
problem
and
it
does
have.
R
B
So
let
let's,
let's
chat
about
it,
briefly,
put
it
in
our
back
pocket
and
let's
move
on
to
make
sure
that
we
get
this
ornament
so
that
it
really
becomes
a
powerful
tool
for
protecting
boise
and
directing
growth
and
really
smart
and
exciting
ways,
so
that
all
of
the
thumbnails
that
we've
just
spent
over
an
hour
pinning
up
get
close
to
being
realized.
It's
so
I
think
you
know
it's.
That's
my
10
cents.
I've
only
been
in
this
industry
for
a
few
years,
so
I
still
have
lots
to
learn.
M
M
So
that's
that's
one
issue
over
achd,
but
the
other
is
that
widening
roads
can
also
incentivize
growth
in
areas
where
it
might
not
be
the
best
place
for
it,
and
so
just
because
you
widen
from
two
to
five
lanes,
you,
you
might
reduce
your
travel
time
or
your
congestion.
M
You
know
for
the
first
three
years
until
they
decide
that
they're
going
to
build
out
down
that
road,
they'll
put
in
more
subdivisions
and
then
you're
right
back
to
where
you're
started,
and
that
also
takes
you
know
money
off
the
actuals
because
of
the
increase
right
of
way,
which
can
increase
property
taxes.
But
I'd
love
to
talk
to
you
about
achd,
because
they're
like
my
favorite
agency.
So
maybe
we
can
do
that
some
other
time.
H
Andrea,
this
is
francis,
and
I'm
I'm
just
wondering.
Are
there?
Is
there
any
documentation
or
any
studies
that
we
can
look
at,
that
have
projected
population
growth
for
boise
and
the
treasure
valley
out,
say,
10
years
that
the
blue,
blue
boise
blueprint
or
blueprint
for
boise
and
or
the
comprehensive
plan
is
based
upon
so
that
we
can?
We
can
see
what
kind
of
population
the
city
is
thinking
it
will
be
accommodating
over
the
next
several
years.
C
So
yes,
we,
we
can
certainly
provide
some
of
that
information
for
you.
So
the
community
planning
association
of
idaho
compass
is
our
regional
metropolitan
planning
organization
and
they
have
some
projections
for
us
and
we
try
and
work
with
them
to
calculate
what
we
believe
our
growth
will
be
and-
and
each
agency
has
an
opportunity
to
provide
that.
J
Francis
one
thing
I
would
just
add
quickly
is
that
I
think
some
of
those
planning
assumptions
are
being
revisited
post,
covid
and
so,
but
certainly
you
know
where
boise
has
the
boise
val.
The
treasure
valley
has
gotten
relatively
more
attractive.
Apparently
given
what's
happened
in
the
real
estate
market
since
covet
has
happened,
and
so
I
do
think
there's
you
could
think
of
reasons
why
we
might
be
revising
some
of
those
estimates
upward
based
on
what
happens
here
over
the
next
year
or
two.
S
Hey
this
is
sheldon.
I
just
I
wanted
a
quick
clarification.
Marissa
we
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
meet,
but
were
you
being
facetious
or
serious?
When
you
said
ach?
Was
your
favorite
agency.
M
Oh
no,
it
is
I
like
watch
them
every
week,
just
from
a
human
behavior
perspective,
plus
the
amount
of
power
and
control
they
have
over
the
valley
and
people
don't
realize
how
much
you
know
influence
they
have.
S
T
Yeah,
the
one
thing
I
think,
I'd
like
to
state
that
I
think's
worthwhile
for
this
early
end
of
the
process
and
we've
already
started
keying
in
on
some
of
these-
is
that
there
needs
to
be
a
bit
of
an
acknowledgement
that
we
truly
are
in
a
bit
of
an
environment
of
constraints
compared
to
a
lot
of
cities
in
the
states.
When
it
comes
to
writing
zoning
ordinances.
T
Those
constraints
come
from
the
the
division
of
government,
like
we've
already
talked
about.
It
comes
from
policy
limitations
at
the
state
level,
but
I
think,
what's
upon
us
to
do
is
try
to
be
a
model
for
other
communities
that
might
be
like
us
to
be
innovative
and
solution
driven
to
try
to
over
overcome
some
of
those
constraints,
but
not
try
to
reverse
them
or
solve
them
or
ignore
that
they
exist
in
our
work
so,
and
I
think
that
was
reflective
on
some
of
the
jam
boards.
So
that
was
good
to
see.
C
No,
I
think
that
that
is
perfect.
That
really
sums
it
up,
though
you
know
we
want
to
be
big.
We
want
to
be
bold,
we
want
to
be
innovative.
We
want
to
think
about
the
future
and
the
big
picture
and
taking
all
of
what
we
value
and
then
what
our
goals
and
aspirations
are
and
acknowledging
some
of
our
limitations
and
our
constraints
that
we
have,
whether
they
are
organizational
or
agencies,
it
might
be
topography.
C
We
have
a
lot
of
things
that
that
we
may
not
be
able
to
change,
but
I
want
also
want
us
to
be
thinking
about
what
happens
if
they
do
change.
C
So
donald
williams
was
an
american
astronaut
and
he
said
for
those
who
have
seen
the
earth
from
space.
The
experience
most
certainly
changes
your
perspective.
The
things
we
share
in
our
world
are
far
more
valuable
than
those
which
divide
us
and
I
think
from
the
exercise
that
we
did.
C
You
know
we
can
really
identify
that
and
even
taking
some
of
the
practical
thoughts
that
some
of
you
had
was
you
know,
maybe
we
get
into
the
details
and
we're
looking
at
something,
but
if
we
take
a
step
back
and
we
look
at
it
from
a
larger
perspective,
we
look
at
it
from
the
metropolitan
area.
Maybe
we
look
at
it
at
the
statewide
level?
Maybe
we
look
at
it,
how
we
are
contributing
globally,
that
we
have
a
really
unique
opportunity
to
create
some
of
those
innovative
solutions,
and
so
we
are
getting
close
to
our
time.
C
So
I
wanted
to
talk
to
you
just
a
little
bit
about
how
we
can
help
you
share
information
with
your
groups.
What
information
that
you
know
you
would
like
to
see
from
us
and
what
might
be
helpful
to
others
too?
Is
there
social
media
posts?
Is
there
handouts?
Are
there
educational
materials?
How
can
we
help
you
and
help
others
spread
the
word
and
to
participate
and
get
them
interested
in
coming
to
the.
K
Table
this
is
roberta,
and
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
been
following,
but
lately
idaho
matters
has
been
doing
a
series
of
shows
focused
on
growth
in
the
valley
and
if
there
was
a
way
to
have
someone
from
either
the
city
or
from
this
group,
you
know
talk
about
where
the
city
is
going
and
the
opportunity
for
citizens
to
engage,
be
a
great
opportunity.
H
Andrea,
this
is
francis.
I
noticed
in
the
comprehensive
plan
that
you've
engaged
with
many
of
the
homeowner
associations
across
the
city.
C
Really
so
we
have
an
entire
neighborhood
planning
section,
and
then
we
also
have
energize
our
neighborhoods
component
to
the
city
as
well,
and
so
those
two
focus
on
communication
between
neighborhood
associations
in
the
city
and
they're
able
to
communicate
their
wants
and
their
needs.
And
then
we
have
the
the
energizer
neighborhood,
and
so
they
have.
They
have
infrastructure
grants
that
they
are
capital
grants
that
they
can
give
to
neighborhoods
for
the
creation
of
parks
or
infrastructure,
things
that
contribute
to
the
larger
city
in
the
larger
community.
C
And
so
we
have
regular
communication
with
those
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that,
and
so
there
we
do
consider
them.
You
know
one
of
our
kind
of
a
partner
agency,
even
though
they
are
not
a
formal
agency,
but
but
they
are
a
component
of
the
the
city
of
boise
and
so
we'll
communicate
regularly
with
them
and
we'll
communicate
via
our
social
media
to
them
we'll
do
regular
transmittals
to
them
so
that
they
have
information
to
consider.
C
And
then
I
don't
know
if
on
our
website
for
the
zoning
code
rewrite,
we
also
have
a
section
of
hey.
Are
you
an
organization
or
a
group,
or
an
individual
that
would
like
to
meet
with
a
planner
if
they
can
click
on
that
book
or
that
button,
or
you
can
and
request
one
of
us
to
come
out
and
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
it,
and
our
other
thought
is
too.
Is
that
we'd
like
to
get
you
geared
up
with
the
information
that
you
need?
C
So
maybe
you
have
the
materials
that
if
you
are
at
a
soccer
game
that
you
can
communicate
with
you
know
the
other
soccer
parents
and
you
can
you
can
communicate
with
your
community
or
whether
that's
your
church,
all
of
those
different
people.
So
you
can
start
to
share
that
information
out,
and
our
hope
is
is
that
you
know
you'll.
Let
us
know
what
you
need
from
us
so
that
we
can
give
that
to
you
and
make
sure
that
that
we're
giving
you
everything
that
you
need
as
well.
N
Or
I
was
francis
also
so,
like
andrea
said,
we
work
with
neighborhood
associations,
which
are
usually
a
larger
geography
than
a
homeowners
association,
and
I
think,
for
probably
some
of
the
neighborhood
association
presidents,
who
are
on
the
call
who
live
in
areas
with
homeowner
associations.
It
is
if
you
have
a
connection
with
your
homeowners
association,
if
you're
part
of
their
email
list.
That
would
be
a
great
place
to
share
information
to
them
at
the
city.
N
Q
That's
esther,
I
I
sit
on
the
collister
board
and
that's
our
neighborhood
association
board,
I
actually
in
the
planning
and
zoning
committee
member
and
so
the
city.
What
I
can
say
is
the
city
has
done
a
really
great
job
in
the
last
couple
years,
communicating
on
a
regular
basis
with
at
least
our
association
about
city
efforts
on
all
levels.
So,
and
you
know
I've
been
involved
with
the
calister
neighborhood
association
since
2006..
Q
D
C
R
So
this
is
chris
vanderstow.
I
have
a
quick
suggestion,
so
I
am
one
of
the
few
renters
on
the
group
and
there's
a
few
rental
sort
of
like
organizations
and
things
that
I'm
connected
with.
R
So
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
ways
to
have
just
like
maybe
a
short
or
like
quick,
to
read
thing
for
reasons
why
members
of
some
of
these
groups
might
want
to
either
attend
or
participate
in
the
meetings
and
give
their
own
feedback
or,
like
just
short
summaries
of
you,
know
what
happens
at
the
meetings
that
can
be
sort
of
brought
back
to
these
groups.
R
So
that
there's
something
that's,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
official
than
just
like
me,
trying
to
remember
everything
that
happened
over
two
hours.
That
can
be
sort
of
easy
to
share
and
easy
to
sort
of
collect
feedback
from
to
bring
back.
F
Emphasize
chris's
point
as
a
as
a
neighbor
association
person.
I
mean
I've
read,
you
know
much
of
my
life,
but
now
I
see
how
difficult
it
can
be,
especially
when
you
have
a
new
you
know,
kind
of
large
rental
complex
or
something
that's
in
your
area.
It's
just
really
really
challenging
to
get
people
interested
and
so
any
kinds
of
hints
or
help
as
to
how
we
might
do
that.
F
D
K
You
know
some
of
what
was
shared
on
the
jamboard
is
a
lot
of
what
you
hear
from
people
in
communities
and
how
that
information,
particularly
the
discussion
that
was
presented
today
and
lay
the
groundwork
that
everyone
here
is,
is
looking
at
how
complicated
it
is.
So
I'm
gung-ho
for
sharing
information,
but
knowing
what
it
is
that
we,
as
a
group
want
to
share.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
really
important.
D
C
C
Both
of
those
will
both
be
recorded
and
so
they'll
be
available
to
be
posted,
so
we'd
encourage
you
to
to
participate
in
those.
Ultimately,
it's
going
to
talk
about
you
know,
what's
in
the
process
and
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
and
and
how
everybody
can
participate
so
we'll
do
our
public
kickoff
scheduled
for
november
5th
and
7th.
C
We
will
do
at
the
same
time
we're
going
to
release
a
community
survey
and
we're
going
to
ask
everybody
hey
what
are
the
strengths
and
weaknesses
of
the
existing
code,
and
so
hopefully
we're
going
to
get
some
some
really
good
feedback
from
that
information
and
from
that
information
we'll
be
able
to
compile
kind
of
a
diagnostics
report,
and
so
that
draft
diagnostics
report
will
also
be
released
and
it's
kind
of
a
summary
of
what
we
heard
for
recommendations
for
those
improvements.
And
you
know:
where
can
we
do
better?
Where
have
we
missed
the
mark?
C
Where
has
the
city
evolved
and
our
code
hasn't
so
really
bridging
that
gap
so
we'll
be
working
on
that,
and
so
we'll
also
release
that
back
to
you
for
your
review
to
take
a
look
at
and
so
you're
going
to
be
able
to
bring
your
personal
experiences
and
say
hey.
C
C
Q
Andrea,
this
is
I'm
sorry,
I
you
know
when
we
talk
about
access
and
we
talk
about
sharing
information
and
getting
the
public
involved
in
these
efforts.
I
I'm
interested
in
knowing
when
outreach
will
occur.
Q
Q
And
so
when
do
you
guys
plan
on
having
this
out
and
the
reason
why
I
ask
is
because
in
the
past
I
have
seen
things
come
out
a
week
or
10
days
prior
and
sometimes
that
could
be
a
challenge
granted
we're
dealing
with
covid
and
people
may
not
be
as
busy
as
they
were
prior
to
covid.
Q
So
that
that's
one
question
and
then
the
second
question
I
have
is:
if
we,
if
we
are,
if
the
city
is
interested
in
obtaining
input
from
all
members
of
of
the
community,
has
there
been
any
consideration
in
providing
this
information
or
the
survey
in
a
manner
that
is
that
can
be
completed
by
individuals
who
may
not
speak
english?
Q
C
C
C
S
Andrea,
this
is
shaolin
and
I
may
have
missed
it.
So
forgive
me
the
for
next
steps,
the
diagnostics
and
solutions
report.
What's
the
timing
on
that
and
who's
authoring,
it.
C
So
that
will
be.
We
will
release
that,
probably
seven
to
ten
days
before
the
next
city-wide
advisory
committee
meeting.
So
that'll
give
you
guys
at
least
a
week
to
review
that
materials
clarion
and
associates
and
kushlan
associates,
which
is
our
our
consultants,
that
we
have
hired
to
assist
us
through
the
process
and
they're
actually
on
the
call,
they're,
listening
and
and
and
taking
notes
and
all
of
that
good
stuff,
so
that
they're
capturing
all
of
this
feedback
as
well.
C
They
also
were
here
a
year
ago
and
did
a
number
of
stakeholder
interviews
that
did
that
and
then
they've
done
it
through
a
review
of
our
code,
as
well
as
our
comprehensive
plan
and
provided
their
professional
expertise
in
regard
to
hey.
Where
is
boise
doing
really
well,
where
are
they
missing
the
mark?
O
So
if
I
could
jump
in
andrea
for
just
a
second
I'd,
just
like
to
reiterate
what
you've
said
when
you
think
about
this
diagnostic
report,
think
about
it
in
my
mind
in
three
different
ways:
what
what
did
clarion
see
when
we
look
at
it
and
we
have
worked
on
blueprint
boise
and
we
look
at
the
system
of
zoning
you're
using
to
implement
that
what
do
we
notice?
That
strikes
us
as
weird
that
hasn't
changed
in
the
last
year.
So
we
wanted
you
to
have
access
to
that.
So
you
have
a
full
picture.
O
The
consultants
do
this
all
over
the
country
and
they
looked
at
this
page
and
said:
that's
weird
or
that's
not
going
to
get
you
where
you're
going
to
go,
not
telling
you
how
to
get
there
we're
just
telling
you
this
strikes
us
as
unusual
that
you
really
ought
to
have
a
discussion.
Second
thing
part
two
is
glitches.
That
staff
finds
every
time
we
write
a
code
staff
understands
that
page
79
and
page
114
can't
be
true.
O
At
the
same
time
something
something's
got
to
give
and
we
haven't
sorted
out
how
these
conflicting
values
can
be
done.
That's
not
going
to
change
either.
Those
are
glitches
that
happen
over
time
in
a
regulatory
process
that
you
know
you
can
call
them
the
weeds.
You
can
call
them
the
details,
but
they
need
to
be
fixed
because
it's
not
fair
to
have
a
system
of
zoning
that
tries
to
get
you
to
go
left
and
right
at
the
same
time,
frustrating
to
everybody
or
just
deliberately
vague.
O
O
The
part
three
is
what
we
really
want
you
to
jump
in
on,
because
we
did
go
around
the
horn,
but
your
new
and
much
broader
group
of
perspectives,
and
you
were
deliberately
invited
here
because
of
that,
and
so
I
want
to
be
very
clear
if
you
disagree
with
what
we
have
heard
either
anything
we
say
in
there.
That's
why
we're
doing
that.
We
want
to
hear
what
you
say,
regardless
of
what
other
people
said,
but
you
should
know
what
people
said
a
year
ago.
O
What
citizens
of
boys
he
said
a
year
ago
might
trigger
a
thought.
Oh,
I
agree
with
that.
Oh
I
don't
know
who
said
that,
but
I
disagree
with
that,
and
so
that's
why
we're
not
starting
over
with
a
blank
sheet
of
paper,
because
the
city
of
boise
has
already
paid
us
to
look
from
our
perspective
and
collected
their
glitches.
O
The
part
that's
very
important
and
most
important
is
what
do
you
think
and
that's
that's?
Why
we're
not
just
saying
so?
What
do
you
think
we're
giving
you
the
thought
process,
as
it
has
evolved
so
far
and
being
very
clear
that
when
it
comes
to
community
values,
we're
very
interested
in
knowing
whether
you
agree
or
disagree
or
want
to
go
off
in
a
different
direction
from
what
we
heard
along
along
the
way
so
far,
so
thanks.
S
That's
helpful
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
that's
very
helpful
and
I'm
just
really
glad
to
know
that
work
that
has
been
done
in
the
past
is
going
to
carry
over
because
those
things
don't
change
overnight,
and
I
just
I
guess
you
know
I'm
sort
of
a
project
manager
by
trade,
and
so
I'd
really
like
to
understand
the
timeline
that
we're
all
working
under
and
it
doesn't
need
to
be
answered
today
but
sort
of
the
high
level
timeline
that
I'm
sure
was
in
the
consultant's
proposal
so
that
we're
just
staying
on
track
and
andrea.
S
So
if
maybe
that's
on
the
drive
and
I
should
have
known,
but
if
there's
just
a
overall
project
schedule
that
would
be
really
great
and
given
that
those
two,
those
first
two
parts
don
that
you
mentioned
and
forgive
me-
I
wasn't
here
last
week
or
last
month,
but
given
that
those
two
parts
are
sort
of
static
at
this
point,
I
just
wonder
if
it
wouldn't
make
sense
to
share
those
with
the
group
now.
So
we
can
kind
of
start
getting
our
head
around
it.
C
We
can
get
that
to
you
as
well,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
we
follow
up
and
get
you
a
timeline
to
that.
There
was
a
request
for
minutes,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
always
do
minutes
for
each
meeting.
So
we
know
what
was
discussed
and
those
information
then
we'll
also
provide
some
of
those.
You
know
where
is
our
existing
population
and
where
is
it
going?
What
do
we
anticipate
it's
able
to
move
forward
to
so
any
information
that
you
guys
might
need?
Let
us
know
because
oftentimes
we
can
provide
it
and
relatively
quickly.
I
When
I
joined
this
thing,
I
wasn't
going
to
sit
on
my
hands.
The
whole
idea
was
not
to
sit
on
my
hands
and
be
quiet,
so
I
wanted
to
be
a
voice,
so
I've
been
trying
to
learn
a
little
bit.
I've
been
actually
watching
some
youtube
videos
of
council
meetings
very
riveting
by
the
way,
but
what
I
noticed
about
planning
and
zoning
was
that
they
were
pretty
specific
about
the
locations
that
they
were
talking
about,
so
we're
coming
in
as
an
advisory
committee.
I
I
guess
is
what
we
are:
we're,
not
really
planning
and
zoning.
How
do
we
rewrite
zoning
if
it's
so
specific
to
location.
C
Yeah,
I
think
it
does,
and-
and
maybe
that
is,
that
onus
goes
to
us
for
some
education
as
to
how
things
are
so
you
know
we
have.
We
talked
about
the
vision
and
the
mission
and
our
strategic
priorities,
and
then
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
comprehensive
plan,
so
those
are
kind
of
all
of
our
goals
and
the
road
map
for
us
to
get
there.
But
now
we
need
the
tools,
and
so
the
zoning
code
is
going
to
be
really
the
tools,
and
you
know
you
don't
have
to
lose
any
sleep
at
night.
C
That's
where
you're
going
to
come
in
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
those
things,
and
you
know
what
is
the
right
direction
for
the
city
of
boise
to
go
in
you
know,
then.
You
know
we're
also
going
to
hear
from
the
public
input
and
we'll
bring
that
information
to
you
as
well,
so
that
you
have
it
and
so
that
we
can
discuss
hey.
We've
got
two
different
perspectives
here
and
then
it's
our
job
to
take
that
step
back
and
look
hey.
C
Are
we
hitting
our
mission,
our
vision
and
our
strategic
goals,
we'll
we'll
evaluate
that
at
that
time?
So
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
details,
we'll
be
bringing
it
to
you.
Then
you
just
have
to
make
sure
that
they
make
sense
that
you're
bringing
your
personal
perspective
in
and
say:
hey
no
I've
seen
that
before
and
it
didn't
work
and
here's.
Why
and
let
us
know.
O
If
I
could
just
add
a
little
bit
when
you
think
of
the
meetings
you're
listening
to
brad,
I
said
on
the
denver
planning
board
actually
most
of
what
we
do
is
changing
the
map
when
you
think
of
zoning,
it's
on
the
one
hand,
a
set
of
rules
that
apply
in
different
contexts
in
the
city,
so
it's
a
rule
book
and
then
it's
a
map
that
applies
that
to
the
face
of
the
earth.
O
O
Is
this
the
right
kit
of
parts
to
try
to
be
applying
to
the
city
over
time
to
achieve
blueprint
boise?
So
it
is
the
rewriting
of
the
rulebook.
That
is
the
primary
focus
of
this.
When
you
get
to
rewriting
individual
maps,
that'll
be
that
that
is
a
secondary
thing
and
very
far
down
the
road
from
now.
It's
really
good
to
think.
Through
the
rule
book
separately
from
the
map,
I
gotta-
I'm
gonna,
say
this
several
times
in
the
process.
O
If
I
roll
out
a
map,
everybody
starts
looking
at
well,
I
think
sam's
property's
always
been
underzoned,
and
I
think
this
corner
has
always
been
badly
zoned
and
people
focus
on
the
place,
but
the
project
is
to
say
before
we
start
talking
about
the
corner
of
fourth
and
main:
do
we
have
the
right
rule
book?
Is
this
book
aligned
with
our
values?
Will
it
get
those
six
priorities
done?
O
Let's
get
the
rule
book
right
so
that
when
we
consider
changing
the
map,
we
have
a
current
set
of
place
types
or
zone
districts
or
forms
whatever
they
are,
but
we
now
have
a
kit
of
parts
that
aligns
with
our
values,
and
that
is
the
that's
the
real
goal.
So,
when
you're
seeing
these
meetings
you're
seeing
people
apply
that
rulebook
to
particular
sites,
but
that
is
really
not
the
core
of
what
is
going
to
go
on
in
this
group.
So
I
hope
that's.
C
C
And
then
I
just
wanted
to
check
in
and
make
sure
you
know.
Does
anybody
have
any
thoughts
that
we
should
part
with
you
know
and
again,
if
you
have
any
wants
or
needs
or
anything
like
that,
you
can
always
call
me
or
email
me,
I'm
always
available,
and
then
we
also
have
one
attendee.
That
is
not
our
committee
member
that
has
been
listening,
and
so
we
can
open
it
up
to
her
as
well,
so
diana.
C
U
Can
you
hear
me
yeah
hi,
I'm
diane
ronan,
I
didn't
know
I
was
going
to
be
called
upon
to
speak,
but
first
of
all
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
doing
this.
It's
an
incredible
amount
of
time
and
effort
and
energy,
and
you
are
the
links
that
are
going
to
make
this
important
to
the
people
of
this
city.
U
What
you're
doing
is
is
much
more
technical
in
a
way,
but
it's
as
important
or
more
so
because
there
are
more
people
here
now
and
we
have
this
weird
covet
and
we
have
to
do
things
on
on
video
and
it's
a
neat
way
to
meet
people,
but
you
don't
have
that
feeling
for
one-on-one,
like
you
do
in
a
regular
meeting,
and
I
hope
I
hope
you're,
I'm
wishing
you
really
really
good
luck.
U
U
C
Time
well,
if
not,
I
feel
good.
I
think
we
accomplished
a
lot.
We
kind
of
have
established
that
we
have
a
lot
of
common
goals
and
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
work
cut
out
for
us
and
there
may
be
some
competing
values
that
are
out
there
and
that's
going
to
require
us
to
take
a
step
back
and
to
look
at
things
a
little
bit
differently
than
from
an
individual
lens
that
we'll
be
looking
from
a
community
lens
or
even
a
regional
lens.