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April 21, 2022
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Lindsay
I'm
assuming
thank
you
for
listening
and
glad
I
got
to
meet
you
if
I
hadn't
already
and
look
forward
to
more
of
this
work.
Yeah
thanks
tim
hi,
everyone,
it's
nice
to
see
you
all,
I'm
just
going
to
give
a
quick
recap
of
the
last
three
months
and
what
we've
done
I've
pretty
much
seen
all
your
faces
of
our
outreach
events,
which
we
really
appreciate,
you
guys
being
involved
in
the
extensive
outreach
that
we
did.
So
I
think
most
of
you
took
a
couple
surveys
that
we
put
out.
A
We
did
do
two
different
surveys.
One
was
more
community
focused
and
one
was
more
technical.
We
had
over
three
thousand
responses.
Take
the
community
survey
in
comparison,
the
module
one
survey
had
about
1100,
so
that's
a
substantial
increase
and
we
were
able
to
track
a
lot
of
where
those
responses
came
from,
which
was
pretty
cool
community
conversations.
A
We
headed
out
to
seven
of
the
neighborhood
planning
areas
specifically
and
had
some
of
those
examples
that
we
had
from
an
architect
as
well
that
kind
of
broke
down
what
those
seven
major
changes
look
like
on
the
local
level.
We
had
a
little
bit
over
200
attendees
just
at
those,
and
then
we
also
had
those
targeted
and
community
events.
A
Those
were
anywhere
from
uli
groups
to
boys,
young
professionals,
groups
to
boise
state
students,
roberta
got
us
a
couple:
housing
groups
and
climate
groups
and
even
more
detailed
conversations
with
boise
state,
some
of
you
all
in
the
room.
So
we
appreciate
all
of
your
input
and
then
bringing
groups
to
us
as
well.
That
really
helps
us
reach
a
broader
sense
of
the
community
postcards
we
did
some
targeted
postcards.
A
We
know
that
renters
aren't
a
huge
group
that
we
hear
from
so
deanna
put
together
a
great
kind
of
gis
map
that
we
were
able
to
target
fit.
We
decided
kind
of
an
area
of
15
000,
different
mailers
that
could
go
out
within
those
groups,
and
then
we
were
actually
able
to
track
that
a
huge
portion
of
that
was
actually
taken
in
the
survey,
which
is
pretty
cool
for
us
to
be
able
to
track
and
see
where
there's
a
lot
of
return
on
our
investment.
A
We
also
have
an
internal
newsletter
that
goes
out
to
about
13
000
different
folks
in
the
community.
That
was
probably
included
at
least
four
or
five
times
in
our
internal
news
letter
that
goes
out,
and
then
we
also
have
a
substantial
list
that
comes
from
pdfs
of
everybody
that
we
do
interactions
with,
and
the
senate
targeted
in
our
building
boys
newsletter.
A
That
was
focused
on
zoning
code
as
well,
and
then
kudos
to
our
three
planners
that
answer
all
of
the
emails
and
calls
that
go
out
as
well
over
100
resident
emails
that
they
spend
substantial
time,
responding,
especially
a
lot
of
specific
questions
that
they
get
and
then
phone
calls
as
well.
So
again,
just
another
interactive.
This
doesn't
even
cover
the
entire
picture.
A
This
is
just
overall
kind
of
by
the
numbers
that
we
did
some
outreach,
so
super
excited
and
proud
of
what
we've
done.
We're
excited
about
moving
forward,
so
that's
just
milo's
feel
and
oh
yeah,
no
survey
were
you
able
to
determine
where
the
respondents
were
from.
Yes,
so
the
first
couple
questions
I
actually
brought
a
copy
of
the
results
to
in
case
you
may
want
to
see
from
both
the
surveys.
The
survey
was
great
across
the
board.
A
I
think
in
the
first
like
I
always
compare
it
to
the
module
one
cervix,
that's
what
I've
easiest
to
comparison
to.
We
had
a
lot
from
the
north
and
east
end.
It
was
probably
equal
between
west
bench,
central
bench
and
north
and
east
and
obviously
foothills.
You
know
it's
a
smaller
demographic,
though
too,
so
obviously
those
numbers
play
into
it.
We're
still
working
on
the
outreach
report.
A
We'll
get
that
out
here,
probably
the
next
couple
weeks
but
yeah.
I
have
some
of
those
results
you
can
see.
So
we
asked
where
you
live,
what
type
of
home
you
live
in
and
then,
whether
you're
a
renter
or
a
homeowner.
Those
are
the
only
three
demographic
type
questions
that
we
asked
yeah.
How
do
the
results
relate
to
what.
A
Yeah,
I
would
say
so
far
from
like
the
first
couple
of
glances
of
diving
in
it's
been
a
little
bit
more
positive
compared
to
the
in-person
feedback
that
we've
received,
but
still
the
same
concerns
like
parking
was
a
major
concern
in
person
and
that
still
was
highlighted
on
like
one
of
the
most
important
things
when
they
had
to
rank
different
areas
of
importance
in
the
city.
So
that
was
more
interesting
than
I
thought
that
people
really
parking
is
important
to
you.
Yeah.
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That's
something
else
I
didn't
include
in
here
some
of
the
earned
media
that
we've
had.
We
have
quite
a
few
people
interested
as
well
just
boise
dev
did
an
article
right
away.
I
know
statesmen
picked
it
up
and
some
of
the
news
stations-
yes,
absolutely
I
mean
the
more
you
know
some
of
those
alice
can
spread
the
word
about
our
events,
the
broader
reach
that
we're
able
to
reach-
I
would
say
the
postcard
and
our
internal
newsletter-
are
to
the
highest
return
on
investments
that
we
receive.
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A
Yeah
yeah,
which
is
a
great
point
and
that's
what
it
was
like
this
is,
I
I'm
still
putting
together
our
entire
post
report.
That
includes
like,
I
believe
we
include
on
the
south
east
right.
Hey.
Can
we
include
this?
Yes,
that's
we're
super
grateful
for
those
opportunities,
but
yeah.
That's
just
our
direct
mailer
that
we
did
ourselves.
Yeah,
yep,
yep,
so
great
points,
even
larger
reach,
yeah
and,
I
would
say,
module
one.
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Staff
is
summarizing
the
feedback,
but
many
of
you
were
at
a
lot
of
these
conversations,
and
so
we
wanted
to
spend
some
time
to
kind
of,
and
we
have
suggestions
for
where
the
the
topic
areas
of
some
of
those
conversations
that
you've
overheard
have
have
generally
fallen.
But
we
wanted
to
hear
from
you
all
about
like
what
your
impressions
were,
of
how
those
conversations
went
and
what
the
the
bigger
topical
areas
are,
or
feedback
you're
hearing
from
the
community.
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That's
kind
of
like
the
next
part
of
this
discussion
and
then,
as
we
kind
of
identify
those
areas
and,
like
you
know,
parking
like.
Let's,
let's
have
a
conversation,
a
little
bit
more
about
parking
like
what
actually
were
were
some
of
the
top-end
issues
or
concerns
people
had
or
opportunities
that
were
identified.
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So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
what
the
ask
is
right.
So,
on
the
one
hand,
you're
asking
us
one,
what
we
heard
or
because
there
was
also-
which
was
that's
one
set
of
interesting
things,
there's
also
what
if
we
think
of
of
module
two
right,
so
we
also,
I
think
you
ask
us
all
what,
from
our
perspective,
that
we
bring.
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A
These
community
meetings-
and
that
was
confirmed
through
the
conversation
or
I
was
surprised
that
I
had
to
hear
something
different,
because
I
think
that's
how
we're
kind
of
approaching
it
too,
like
this
is
what
we
think
this
is
what
we
thought
module
2
was
about.
We
go
into
the
meetings
and
we
have
our
our
impression
of
you
know
what
kind
of
city
that
was
developed
into,
but
then
somebody
can
come
at
it
from
a
completely
different
angle.
So
I
were.
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Your
thoughts
on
all
of
that
because,
for
the
sake
of
the
extras,
like
you're
you're
becoming
you
are
subject
that
are
experts
on
the
president
more
than
a
lot
of
people,
but
we
need
to
do
this
together.
You
know
and
have
a
two-way
conversation,
and
I
think
that's
that's
really
at
the
heart
of
what
we
want
to
do,
but
I'm
kind
of
curious,
just
kind
of
like
hit
the
brain
working.
Did
anyone
have
that,
like
aha
moment
or
how
they
were
completely
different
than
I
thought
yeah
I'll
start?
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I
think
overall
people
like
the
design
elements
that
they
saw,
like
you,
showed
a
picture
of
what
could
happen
next
to
the
fred
meyers.
That's
not
what's
going
next
to
the
framework,
so
that
might
be
an
issue
with
people
see
that
now.
But
people
like
that
sort
of
thing,
but
they're
just
not
really
trusting.
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On
mixed-use
zones,
they
weren't
talked
a
whole
lot
at
the
community
needs,
but
I've
been
in
some
discussions
with
other
groups
like
plus
district
neighborhood
association
on
campus,
where
I
spent
most
of
my
days-
and
I
think
the
aha
moment
I've
had
with
that-
is
that
it
feels
almost
like.
We
are
missing
a
zone,
a
mixed-use
stone,
there's
a
very
stark
change
from
mxd
to
the
next
most
intense,
and
it
feels
when
you
look
at
the
conversion
map
we're
stretching
some
of
these
proposed
zones
rather
thin.
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To
nxt
or
encourage
the
creation
of
another
transitional
zone,
is
it
quite
a
start
from
mxd
down
to
whatever
is
next?
Maybe
it's
the
activity
center?
I
think,
but
I
think
we
have
many
areas
that
are
on
the
bridges
downtown
that
benefit
from
something
like
that
and
then
allow.
The
other
proposed
sounds
to
really
hone
in
on
those
specific
corridors
or
activity.
Centers
identified
as
blue
red
boise,
those
techniques.
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And
you
know
so:
r3
zone
could
be
a
400
unit
apartment
complex
which,
by
the
nature
of
itself
it
requires
the
people
that
live
there
to
get
any
car
and
leave
to
go
to
any
source
or
whatever.
But
in
areas
like
I
live
in
the
west
downtown
on
the
west
end,
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
this.
We
also
have
r3
in
smaller
residential
areas,
where
400
unit
apartment,
complex,
wouldn't
possibly
fit.
A
So
you
know
if
there
is
another
possibility
for
a
different
zone
where
to
discourage
these
really
large
apartment
complex.
It
makes
more
sense
to
have
an
excuse
if
we're
really
going
to
have
something
where
it's
walkable
and
connected
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
neighborhoods
like
ours,
where
something
like
that
would
fit
something
that's
a
different
type
of
density.
But
still
you
know,
apartment
complexes
that
might
be
more
appropriate
for
a
smaller
residential
set
yeah
great.
A
Those
two
are
actually
really
pretty
important.
We
have
heard
that
and
we
feel
like
too,
that
there
isn't
enough
differentiation
between
the
mixed
zones,
but
that
also
applies
to
the
residential
zones
as
well,
that
there's
just
subtle
enough
differences
that
you
kind
of
almost
sometimes
can
get
the
same
product
within
the
same
presidential
zone.
So
you
don't
really
know
how,
like
we're
preserving
simple
family
homes
in
the
traditional
way
that
we're
thinking
of
it.
But
then
how
do
we
accommodate
denser
type
of
housing
that
isn't
just
a
large
perma
building?
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Yeah,
I
guess
I
mean
it
depends
on
how
granular
we
want
to
get
with
our
comments
during
meetings
like
this.
If
it
makes
sense
to
have
a
discussion
about
whether
or
not
a
block
separation
is
the
appropriate
way
to
provide,
you
know,
limit
impacts,
and
things
like
that
or
if
that
is
even
you
know,
warranted
in
our
module
two
discussion
or
a
future
discussion.
I
guess
that's
the
big
thing.
A
Are
you
asking
or
thinking
about
having
a
conversation,
that's
like
a
little
over
30
000
foot,
which
is
to
say
if
we
had
a
use
that
could
potentially
impact
a
neighborhood,
whether
that's
a
shelter
or
well?
It's
like
a
car
or
like
thinking
about
secretary
of
state
like
something
that
the
neighbors
would
say.
Oh,
this
might
be
an
unusual
thing
in
our
neighborhood.
That
would
have
a
more
more.
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H
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it.
Okay,
can
you
hear
me
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
great,
I
wanted
to
jump
in
hearing
about
allowed
uses
and
looking
at
what's
going
so
so
residential
is
one
thing
and
that's
of
course,
in
some
neighborhoods,
that's
all
we
are
confronted
with
for
the
most
part
and
maybe
commercial,
looking
at
south
boise
southwest
boise
they're
confronted
with
a
lot
of
industrial,
and
I
personally
think
that
the
the
conditioning
is
essential
and
we're
kind
of
coming
into
a
a
problem.
H
From
my
perspective,
when
we
look
at
the
folding
of
industrial
zones,
the
currently
the
you
know,
the
the
light
industrial
and
then
t1
and
t2
all
into
the
same
category
moving
forward
and
not
dealing
with
specifically.
How
do
we
mitigate
impacts
because,
for
instance,
the
t2
zone
is
clear
in
that
there
it
shouldn't
be
next
to
residential
uses.
That
may
or
may
not
be
true
with
what
is
currently
light
industrial.
H
Let
me
just
jump
in
here
my
neighborhood
and
other
neighborhoods
that
are
on
the
fringe.
We
feel
you
know
it's
kind
of
odd,
that
there
isn't
a
transitional
zone
between,
say.
You
know
the
on
the
edge
where
we
still
have
a
lot
of
farmland,
uses
or
or
non
foothills
sage
step
uses,
and
so
it's
it's
odd
to
try
to
shoehorn
us
into.
You
know
what
may
be
going
on
more
into
the
core,
and
some
of
this
comes
about,
say
the
state
street
corridor
just
recently.
H
Well,
it's
been
a
year
now
we
have
well.
First
of
all,
we
have
all
these
nicely
developed
plans
for
the
state
street
corridor,
but
we're
approving
developments
without
the
basic
elements
of
those
plans
like
without
the
the
12-foot
multi-modal
path.
And
so
when
we
talk
about
these
kind
of
zones
going
forward,
it'd
be
not.
H
I
mean
that
would
be
an
instance
of
having
specific
zones
for
something
like
the
state
street
corridor
to
ensure
that
that
is
written
into
code,
because
otherwise
you
know
the
developers
we
just
have
two
of
them
they're
trying
to
wiggle
out
of
it.
It
looks
like
at
this
point
we
might
be
holding
them
to
actually
doing
it,
but
it's
not
in
code.
So
it's
a
problem.
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Affect
their
ability
to
either
have
the
appearance
of
cars
parking
on
the
street
or
kindness
which,
just
as
it
seems,
unsightly
people
or
that
they
won't
be
able
to
find
a
place
to
park
on
the
street.
That
was
what
I
heard.
I
was
a
little
surprised.
You
know,
because
that's
that's
not
my
experience
in.
C
F
C
F
Okay
with
it
being
a
little
bit
harder
to
find
it
for
parking
space
because
I'd
like
to
have
more
housing
in
our
existing
neighborhoods.
For
me,
that's
a
trade-off
and
I
think
regional
people
can
disagree
about
that.
But
you
know
that's
where
I
kind
of
come
down:
I'm
okay
with
having
it,
you
know,
maybe
having
to
park
half
a
block
away.
A
F
B
A
Have
some
thinking
that
I
I
think
it
would
be
worthwhile
to
bring
up
like
how
we're
thinking
about
the
transit
corridors,
because
we
do
have
three
best
in
class
routes
that
that
we
could
think
about
at
least
that,
like
we
have,
we
have
that
we
know
we
haven't
had
a
week
for
that
yet
and
then
there's
the
anticipated.
Maybe
we're
ready
with
the
heat
conversation.
F
D
F
F
C
F
Cars
come
with
more
housing,
so
more
housing
needs
more
cars,
so
I
don't
want
any
more
housing.
It's
like
that's
sort
of
that's
so
that
logic
is
defensible.
I
think
you
know
many
people.
You
know
there
are
a
lot
of
people
sing.
You
know
houses
with
one
person
that
don't
use
their
car
that
much
so
I
I
would
contest
the
underlying
assumption
there,
but,
like
there
are
people
on
this
table.
I
know
who
disagree
with
me
on
that,
and
so
I
think
the
thing
that
I
so
in
terms
of
responding
was
in
module.
Two.
F
There
were
just
a
number
of
things.
There
would
sort
of
said:
hey.
You
know
we're
going
to
lower
the
minimum
lot
size
so
that
for
something?
Oh
that's
great!
You
know
oh
we're
going
to
allow
you
know
triplexes,
like
oh,
that's,
great,
more
density,
but
then
there
are
a
bunch
of
so
that's
that's
good
for
my
agenda
right,
bad
for
the
anti-no
more
parking
agenda,
but
there
are
also
all
these
other
rules
that
make
it
harder
to
do
those
things
right.
So
there
were
things
in
there.
F
That
said,
oh
you
can
you
know
we're
going
to
lower
the
minimum
lot
size,
so
four
thousand,
but
we're
a
constraint,
is
based.
If
the
other
lots
near
you
are
also
big
and
you
can't
subdivide
and
so
they're.
So
I
just
want
to
like
tease
out
like
we
should
like
we
got
to
decide.
Do
we
want?
Do
you
want.
D
F
F
A
F
F
Yeah
so-
and
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
there
is
like
a
reasonable
position
on
the
other
side
which
is,
and
so
how
do
we
navigate
that,
and
there
were
certain
neighborhoods
that
really
cared
about
this
issue,
and
so
are
there
ways
that
we
can?
I
think
this
goes
to
the
can
we
kind
of
fine-tune
our
zoning
a
little
bit
that
maybe
allows
for
people
who
you
know
how
do
we
balance
those
those
differences
in
kind
of
a
democratic
way.
C
C
H
C
F
Yeah,
I
know
I
think,
that's
I
think.
That's
I
mean
I,
I
think
that's
one
potential
way
right,
but
then
also
you
know,
there's
a
there's
a
neighbor.
I
also
think
about
this.
You
know
there.
There's
there
was
some
houston
is
an
interesting
example.
They
allowed
for
much.
You
know
to
subdivide
into
much
smaller
lot
sizes
right,
so
so
their
neighborhoods
really
changed.
They
got
a
lot
more
housing,
but
they
allowed.
You
know
they
allowed
to
go
from
people
to
subdivide
into
pretty
small
ones.
I
think
it's.
F
Something
like
that,
but
they
did
allow
some
neighborhood.
You
could
opt
out.
So
if
you
could
organize
all
the
neighbors
on
it
was
a
fairly
small
area.
You
could
opt
out,
and
so
there
were
some
neighborhoods,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
like
what's
the
escape
valve,
so
I
think
there
are
a
lot
I
think
in
the
central
bench
there.
A
lot
of,
I
think
those
neighborhoods
already
are
changing.
F
F
B
F
D
A
D
A
Reinforced
to
me
that
we
live
in
our
own
little
bubbles
like
I
am
in
the
thousands,
and
so
one
of
the
things
on
my
list
of
comments
here
is
from
my
southeast
neighbors
they're
like
well.
We
don't
have
that
much
open
land
in
the
southeast
and
I'm
like.
Oh
that's
a
good
place.
I
don't
really
know
what
sullivan
landed
southeast.
So
that's
one
of
the
responses
it's
like
well.
Why
are
we
doing
this?
B
A
A
A
G
D
A
A
A
What
kind
of
change
are
we
going
to
experience
in
the
next
20
to
30
years,
population,
growth
and
environmental
changes
and
and
the
development
that
comes
along
with
that?
And
how
do
we?
How
do
we
first
step
back
and
say:
what's
the
what's
the
design?
What's
the
concept
of
the
city
and
then
use
the
tools
that
we
have
through
planning
and
zoning
and
landing?
You
know
in
ways
to
to
know
that
then
we're
going
to
build
that
city
and
it's
berlin.
A
You
know
that
process
as
a
department
of
how
we
go
about
it
and
and
structure
ourselves
in
that
way.
But
it
really
your
comments
kind
of
resonated.
Exactly
with
what
he's
gonna
brought
to
the
table
too
playing
card,
you
can
go
to
10
out
of
11
meetings
and
walk
away
from
the
scratching
your
head,
but-
and
I
think
with
what
you
guys
have
already
brought
up
today.
A
A
I
know
that
something
that
came
up
a
lot
in
the
community
meetings
right
with
this
sort
of
confusion,
and
this
is
lena
talking
by
the
way
for
folks
that
are
online
confusion
over
what
zoning
cannon
can't
do.
So
a
lot
of
we
hear
a
lot
of
very
legitimate
concerns
of
like
well.
This
is
all
fine
and
good,
but
if
you're
increasing
density,
then
what
does
that
mean
for
the
school
district?
And
it's
not
a
very
satisfactory
answer
to
say
like
well,
that's
the
school
district
right.
A
So
there
has
to
be
a
recognition
that,
like
no
that's,
not
necessarily
in
the
structure
of
what
a
zoning
code
does,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
just
say
like
well.
We
don't
have
to
think
about
that
and
yes,
we're
getting
feedback
from
our
partners,
but,
like
maybe
a
question,
is
thinking
past
the
zoning
code
rewrite
it's
like.
How
do
we
tie
that
conversation
back
to
say,
yeah?
We
do
need
to
think
about
these
other
elements
of
like
how
we
grow
and
how
do
we
continue
that
conversation
a
productive
way,
but
also.
A
That,
like
this
is
what
zoning
is,
and
this
is
what
it
is
not
as
a
tool,
and
I
I
want
to
just
give
another
example
that
we've
heard
a
lot
of
people
say.
Oh
when
I
went
to
the
housing
meeting
at
the
library,
it
was
a
different
conversation
because
we
put
it
in
the
context
of
our
affordable
housing
and.
A
We're
working
on
to
advance,
affordable
housing
outside
of
the
zoning
code-
and
I
think
that's
sometimes
important
for
us
to
think
about-
is
like
we'll-
have
a
land
use,
but
then
we
have
to
have
programs
that
support
everything
else.
We're
trying
to
achieve
and
the
land
use
is
just
one
piece
of
it.
So
we
know
affordable
housing
is
an
issue.
Therefore,
the
city
is
working
on
helping
to
produce
1250,
affordable
units
or
we're
trying
to
preserve
a
thousand
units
through
other
channels
outside
itself.
A
D
A
Other
things,
and
so
how
we
based
on
what
I
just
said,
how
zoning
isn't
going
to
handle
transit
but
transit,
is
about
because,
if
you've
ever
been
forced
to
take
the
access
bus,
it's
exceedingly
difficult,
and
so
I
had
to
do
that
for
close
to
a
year,
and
so
you
can't
get
anywhere.
So
then
you
know
when
you
talk
about
in
these
meetings.
You
know
taking
care
of
all
the
special,
the
groups
that
we
have
in
town
like
our
distant
franchise.
So
I
don't
know
because
it's
very
frustrating
not
to
provide.
A
A
A
A
E
A
A
Or
I
think,
as
a
part
of
this
rewrite
through
the
process,
like
also
think
about
our
area
of
impact,
county
and
annexation
in
general,
and
how
has
open
space
relates
to
how
growth
in
general
is
that,
but
also
those
are
some
of
the
areas
that
haven't
been
developed,
so
we
don't
have
on
that
one.
So
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
yep,
we
have
marissa
yeah.
If
we
want
to
have
marisa,
if
you
want
to
go.
G
Okay,
so
I
was
thinking
about
this
on
my
drive
back,
but
one
of
the
issues
that
keeps
coming
up
in
our
n
a
meetings
when
we
discuss
the
zoning
code
is
how
does
blueprint
boise
fit
into
this,
because,
even
though
we've
heard
that
this
is
supposed
to
address
the
disconnect
between
zoning
and
blueprint,
boise
people
are
not
understanding
how
that
is
happening.
And
so,
when
you
look
at
blueprint,
voice,
boise
actually
is
broken
up
into
different
section
of
the
cities.
G
It
addresses
different
things
like
southwest,
as
opposed
to
maintain
the
rural
characteristics
of
our
community,
and
how
does
a
one
size
fits
all
zoning
rewrite
or
upzone
address
any
of
that,
and
so
I
think
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
talked
about
a
lot
more
like
exactly.
How
are
we
bringing
blueprint
boise
into
our
zoning
code?
And
what
does
this
mean
for
different
areas?
Because
the
areas
of
the
city
are
not
the
same
and
they
have
not
historically
been
the
same
they're
not
growing
the
same.
We
don't
all
have
access
to
the
same
amenities.
H
You
know
wanting
to
start
from
the
beginning
and
having
lots
of
questions
and
detailed
questions,
and
that
will
require
going
back
to
other
sections
and,
of
course,
that's
always
going
to
be
a
challenge.
Yeah
in
terms
of
I
I
was
I'm
happy
to
hear.
You
know
this
is
something
we've
been
calling
out
here
for
for
decades
and
decades,
since
I
was
a
kid
in
70s
in
terms
of
trying
to
hold
boise
from
sprawling
out
here
in
my
area.
It's
kind
of
the
last
ditch
efforts,
but
to
the
south.
H
What
what
do
we
have?
Six
or
seven
fire
stations
planned
for
growing
to
the
south?
And
you
know
that's,
that's:
that's
the
cost
of
sprawl
right
in
terms
of
dollars.
Those
are
expensive,
let
alone
all
the
other
costs.
So
I
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
we
might
actually
finally
be
talking
about
that
because
otherwise
we
say
oh
well
density
should
prevent
sprawl,
but
unless
we
have
some
policies
to
do
it,
you
know
growth
is
not
a
zero-sum
game.
H
There's
plenty
of
people
to
move
here
that
will
want
to
move
out
south
and
plenty
of
other
people
who
may
want
to
move
it
into
apartment,
so
one
does
not
cancel
out
the
other,
unfortunately,
and
then
again
the
transit.
You
know
it's
so
frustrating
to
hear
about
our
transit
oriented
density
out
here
in
my
neighborhood
along
state
street,
because
there
is
no
actual
plan,
any
viable
plan
for
transit.
Now
we
hear
all
the
time.
H
Oh,
this
is
transit
served
because
there
is
a
bus
that
runs
down
state
street,
but
there
are
no
bus
stops
in
my
neighborhood
there's
only
one
bus
stop
in
my
neighborhood
along
a
two
mile
stretch
or
so
and
there's
none
planned,
and
so
we
we
we're,
actually
designing
these
apartments
and
and
they
get
sold
to
city
hall.
This
way,
as
you
know,
transit
oriented
apartments,
you
know
and
they're
going
to
have
bicycle
you
know,
covers
and
and
they're
going
to,
you
know
have
little
led
lights.
H
H
You
know
we've
gotten
1500
new
apartments
along
state
street
in
my
neighborhood
and
if
you
add
a
little
bit
of
garden
city,
you
go
on
and
it's
just
you
know
we'll
have
to
it
could
be
decades
before
we
actually
even
have
a
bus
stop.
So
that's
that's
super
frustrating
and
I
think
that
you
know
it.
It
really
erodes
public
trust.
H
When
you
talk
about
kind
of
this
transit
that
doesn't
actually
exist,
and
maybe
if
there
were
more
elements
in
code,
maybe
we
could
actually
move
toward
that
and
then
finally,
I
don't
actually
understand
the
comments
about
zoning,
not
addressing
density.
My
understanding
was,
even
you
know.
If
you
go
to
lupa
and
just
kind
of
planning
in
general,
zoning
is
supposed
to
deal
with
density
and
service
providing
so,
and
that
is
something
I
thought
that
traditionally
it
was
used
for.
So
that
kind
of
surprises
me.
H
A
Do
you
wanna,
I
I
don't
know
yeah,
I
don't
wanna
get
too
much
tonight,
because
this
should
really
be
a
discussion
that
you
all
are
leaving.
I
think,
but-
and
I
don't
know
if
I'm
responding
to
this
with
richard,
so
we
don't
need
to
go
back
and
forth,
but
just
to
clarify
a
little.
The
comment
that
I
was
making
to
roberto
is
that
you
know
we've
had
some
specific
questions
about
where
in
the
zoning
code
is
there
a
specific
plan
for
building
new
schools,
for
example?
A
B
A
That
I
spoke
to
that
live
up
near
the
hp
campus
were
opposed
to
any
partner
reduction.
In
large
part.
Their
claim
was
lack
of
a
reliable
transit
right,
and
that's
just
that
west
side,
when
you
know
I
mean
maybe
the
question
should
be
how
many
of
you
have
spent
any
time
on
your
bike
or
in
a
car
in
southwest
policy,
overly
good
timeline.
D
D
A
A
D
A
I
haven't
thought
that
far,
but
I
definitely
think
that
there
is
a
huge
need
there,
because
folks
comes
and
they
are
so
upset,
but
they
haven't
really
looked
at
the
bigger
nature
and
then
the
last
thing
I
will
say
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
constantly
heard
was
I
don't
want
you
guys
doing
anything.
I.
A
D
A
D
D
And
like
richards
talks
about
there's
not
going
to
be
a
bus,
stop
around
state
street
at
50
miles
an
hour.
People
are
not.
You
know
that
bus
is
not
going
to
be
allowed
to
stop
there.
So
why
isn't
the
highway
department
widening
the
road
for
a
bus?
Stop
you
know
and
provide
that
transportation,
and
we
can
have.
C
D
D
D
C
F
F
F
B
F
A
Thing
I
I
think
we're
very
diverse
throughout
the
city.
You
know
it
goes
to
that
district.
This
new
district,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
now.
I
think,
that's
huge.
I
think
that's
kind
of
how
zoning
can
work
too.
In
a
sense
you
know,
there's
every
place
is
unique.
You
can
probably
draw
a
line
around
the
different
types
of
neighborhoods
and
stuff,
like
that.
C
D
D
A
D
A
Like
the
blanket
cookie
cutter
treatment
was
not
really
sensitive
enough
and
then
the
neighborhood
association
meetings
and
everything
and
the
people.
I've
spoken
to
just
reflected
that,
and
I
think
that's
where
all
this
a
lot
of
the
anxiety
and
frustration
come
from.
Is
people
feeling
like
they're
being
pigeonholed
and
not
listened
to,
so
I'm
really
excited
about
where
it
sounds
like
this
conversation
is
going
now.
A
A
D
A
D
D
A
D
A
People
are
more
patient
once
they
know
that
something's
happening
that
that
is
going
to
be
good.
Oh
yeah
yeah,
I
think
definitely
on
memory
and
then
to
the
conversation,
will
look
a
little
different
because
you
know
what
we
need
to
kind
of
start
from
the
beginning.
Like
was
saying
like
model.
One
was
about
this
level
two,
and
you
know
zoning,
and
all
that,
hopefully
we
can.
A
B
D
A
Public
education
is
so
important
because
so
many
people
are
ignorant.
So
perhaps
there's
a
follow-up
newspaper
article
or
something
like
that
or
even
on
npr.
You
know
interviews
or
something
like
that.
Like
what's
happened
since
we
had
all
these
neighborhood
associations,
even
if
there's
no
solutions.
D
A
A
Coming
in
the
new
zoning
code,
what's
going
to
happen
between
now
and
then,
and
how
long
is
that
is
that
going
to
be
two
years
three
years?
So
what
can
the
public
expect-
and
you
know,
is
it
just
not
legal
for
planning
and
zoning
to
begin
to
incentivize
development
or
or
encourage
development
to
go
in
the
way
of
the
new
zoning
code?
A
A
C
A
B
C
Thoughts
on
that,
I
did
have
one
comment:
yeah
from
somebody
said
earlier
in
relation
to
the
shelter
that
they're
trying
to
appeal
to
the
permanent
decision
right
now,
something
that
the
lawyer
for
the
interstate
sanctuaries
brought
up
was
that
shelters
are
only
allowed
to
be
built
in.
I
think
it's
c1
through
four
zones
right
now
and
that
limits
where
they
can
be
built
and
that
city
is
not
giving
them
any
other
options.
So
that's
something
that
should
be
addressed
at
some
point.
A
D
A
On
the
flip
side,
I
think
it
gave
neighborhood
associations
people
attend
the
meetings.
The
impression
the
goal
was
to
not
have
any
change,
because
a
lot
of
those
people
showed
up
to
me
and
saying:
is
this
good
how's
this
going
to
pick
my
in
fact,
you
know
impact
my
neighborhood.
I
don't
want
to
change
and
so
they're
walking
away
in
a.
A
And
I
think
that
that
you
know
changing
the
terminology
would
maybe
help
the
dialogue,
and
you
know,
patrick-
and
I
totally
agree
with
what
he
said
in
that
meeting.
I've
watched
it
twice
now
because
there
was
a
lot
of
things
that
were
said,
and
that
means
I
found.
I
got
interesting
a
little
frustrating,
but
he
talked
about
you
know.
D
D
A
D
A
D
A
C
C
B
H
Okay,
thanks
yeah,
just
to
echo
the
comment
I
heard
about
parking
and
transit,
you
know
along
the
state
street
corridor
again
this
is
policy,
it's
not
to
do
with
density
per
se.
It's
that
we
don't
allow
hov
lanes
along
my.
You
know:
northwest
neighborhood
side
of
state
street,
so
we're
giving
away
what
they
say,
giving
away
them.
If,
if
you
give
away
the
milk,
they
won't
buy
the
cow,
I
mean
that's
what
we're
doing
when
we
entitle
by
right
without
getting
the
policy
changed.
H
I
I'm
pretty
certain
that
if
we
kind
of
held
held
the
policy
changes
as
needing
to
be
changed,
there
would
be
a
lot
of
money
that
would
be
going
down
to
the
state
and
lobbying
for,
for
instance,
allowing
hov
lanes
along
state
street,
at
least
in
boise.
There's
that
and
then
what
was
the
last
thing.
Well,
I'm
sure
I'll
bring
it
up
some
other
meetings.
So
that's
good
enough
for
now,
thanks.
B
B
D
D
A
A
So
from
our
original
schedule
you
know
and
that's
just
kind
of
like
a
best
guess
of
how,
how
much
time
we
need
we're
kind
of
like
right
where
we
said
we
would
be.
I
think,
the
feedback
about
residential
zones,
more
differentiation
between
them
and
and
mixed
use
zones.
Differentiation
between,
like
not
that
blanket
approach
is
really
kind
of
driving
from
an
initial
to
go
back
staff
and
figure
out
what
to
do
need
and
open
space.
A
A
A
Figured
out
a
stuff
like
what
does
community
engagement?
Look
like
you
know,
is
it
there's
some
time
the
staff
need
for
rest
of
like
do
we
go
back
out
in
the
same
way,
because
the
conversation
is
a
little
bit
different?
Is
there
a
different
forum
there's
more
ability
to
meet
in
person
at
least
right
now
until
there's
another
variant
like
who
knows
so
we
got
to
work
on
what
that
engagement
looks
like
and
how-
and
I
think,
like
you
know,
different.
H
A
A
So
we
will
get
to
module
three
and
then
looking
at
our
full
timeline
of
how
do
we
bring
it
all
together
and
communicate
like
this
is,
and
with
tim
you
know,
thinking
about
like
this
is
getting
to
the
design
of
that
city
that
we're
all
thinking
about,
and
it
is
related
to
blueprint
boise
and
the
plans
that
have
come
since
then,
and
the
neighborhood
plans.
You
know
there
is
a
way
we're
gonna,
bring
it
all
together,
just
yeah
we
gotta
get
there
and
and.
D
D
A
A
Zones
alone
is
like
there's
a
whole
bunch
to
unpack
just
with
what
what
you
guys
said,
but
then
we've
got
some
other
thoughts
too
about
like
we
didn't
really
talk
about
like
within
those
different
zones.
What
are
appropriate
heights?
How
do
we
transition
within
the
zones?
What
are
the
setbacks?
What
are
the
allowed
uses?
I
mean
there's
just
a
whole
bunch
within
residential
zones,
and
then
we
get
to
mix
these
stones.
We're
looking
at.
A
G
A
A
So,
like
we
heard
we
want
to
have
different
places
in
the
city
of
woodsy
room.
We
want
to
have
variation
and
unique
places.
So
how
can
we
go
back
and
look
at
our
zones
and
say:
do
we
have
the
right
zones
and
if
we
don't,
maybe
we
need
to
change
the
zone
and
how
do
we
make
them
more
different
right,
because
that
was
what
we've
heard.
We
heard
a
lot
from
the
community.
We
don't
want
to
grow
everywhere.
A
Okay,
so
how
can
we
create
zones
that
don't
have
us
grow
everywhere,
but
understanding
we
have
to
grow
some
places.
So
can
we
grow
where
we
have
infrastructure
or
investment
and
then
only
get
the
type
of
development?
We
really
want
other
places
right
where
it's
affordable
or
it's
sustainable,
or
things
like
that.
So
those
are
some
of
the
high
level,
which
is
I've,
heard
mirrored
a
lot
here,
which
is
great
things.
A
We're
going
to
be
trying
to
look
at
our
old
document
and
say
what
are
some
of
the
solutions
to
these
issues
that
were
raised?
Okay
and
then
second,
for
our
main,
for
our
will
this
be
of
the
discussion?
Will
you
guys
be
coming
back
to
us
with
kind
of
like
some
specific
areas
or
information
where
that
you
have
taken
back.
B
A
I
would
just
have
one
question
because
I
like
looking
at
data
and
I
love
to
look
at
responses
when
we
talk
about
people,
engagement
and
public
participation,
so
if
there
was
just
an
opportunity
for
us
to
just
get
a
found
level
of
results
from
the
survey
you
know
today
when
we
talked
about
like
okay,
what
did
we
think?
What
was
our
aha
moment.
D
A
B
D
B
D
A
A
That
is
definitely
something
we
heard
when
we
spoke
to
younger
younger
generations.
It's
a
very
different
tone
in
sentiment
in
some
of
these
changes,
so
yeah
very
interesting,
and
I
guess
one
last
thing.
I
just
want
to
recognize
you
all
for
all
of
your
hard
work
and
your
patience
during
this
process,
especially
during
the
public
meetings
and
the
efforts
that
you've
done
on
the
public
participation
piece
that
outreach.
D
D
A
But
I
also
want
to
make
it
clear
that,
like
when
we
have
conversations
and
the
conversations
we've
been
having
in
the
past
several
weeks,
everything
that
we
have
heard
has
been
intermoving
into
that
conversation,
whether
it's
the
survey
or
meeting,
whether
it's
young
people
or
other
people
and
like
it's
something
that
we
are
actively
bringing
into
that
conversation
and
discussing
and
thinking
about
and
sometimes
like
lying
awake
at
night
thinking
about
it.
So
it
really
is
like.
A
I
appreciate
your
comment
and
also
like,
we
really
do
appreciate
all
the
people
that
have
shown
up,
and
especially
you
all,
because
it
is
not
just
performative.
It
is
like
truly
substantive
and
integral
to
how
we
do
our
work.
So
it
really
matters
and
also
that
october
meeting
you
all
gave
us,
I
think,
was
really
remember.
We
did
talk
about
like
that
was
very
helpful.
D
A
We
all
know
you
need
a
little
critical
freight,
but
the
education
and
outreach.
Now
you
know
as
far
how
critical
is
because
there's
been
so
much
voicing
of
feedback
that
people
hear.
You
know.
Thank
you
not
just
to
us,
because,
obviously
you
know
we're
a
part
of
this,
but
there
are
other
people
who
engage,
but
some
of
the
things
diana,
I
didn't
remember
everything
said
but
deanna
and
as
far
as
things
that
you've
heard
and
how
that's
going
to
be
reevaluated,
you
know
whether
it's
in
a
general
because
you'll
be
able
to.
D
A
B
A
A
B
A
D
A
And-
and
I
hopefully
won't
have
to
go
back
to
any
isolation,
but
you
know
so.
I
appreciate
this
meeting
very
much
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
for
those
who
can't
come
in
person
that
you
have
offered
the
hybrid
option,
because
I
may
not
be
able
to
become
a
person
in
the
future,
so
I
appreciate
it
and
as
a
follow-up
to
the
people
that
are
online,
I
would
appreciate
feedback
that
you
all
had
too
I'll
go
watch
on
youtube.
A
Hybrid
is
difficult
to
do
the
only
places
conducive
to
do
it
really.
Well
is
council
chambers
which
is
booked?
You
know
during
these
times
that
we
know
so.
This
is
our
next
best
option.
Obviously
we're
trying
to
figure
out
some
of
the
kinks,
and
we
know
as
a
city
like
our
investment
on
some
of
these,
because
people
are
asking
for
hybrid,
not
just
this,
but
some
of
our
community
outreach
events
and
whatnot
as
well.
So
we're.