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From YouTube: Citywide Advisory Committee Meeting
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Monthly meeting for the City of Boise's Zoning Code Rewrite Citywide Advisory Committee. This meeting streams on YouTube, where the public can view it.
B
B
C
Good
afternoon
everybody
thank
you
for
being
here
to
the
last
meeting
of
this
committee.
Congratulations,
the
I'm
gonna
we're
gonna,
get
into
a
presentation
here
in
a
minute
and
into
the
agenda
that
I
think
you
all
have,
but
we
wanted
to
start
the
meeting
by
giving
mayor
McLean
a
few
minutes
to
speak
to
this
group.
Given
this
is
your
your
last
meeting
after
a
long,
arduous
process.
So
mayor
did
you
want
to
make
a
few
comments
to
the
group.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
This
microphone
feels
so
heavy
I've
gotten
so
used
to
sitting
at
the
tables
with
these
mics
I
wanted
to
I've
got
to
run
over
to
the
state
house
for
meeting,
but
I
really
was
happy
to
be
able
to
just
come
in
and
see
you
all
face
to
face.
One
last
time,
I
mean
I'm
going
to
see
many
of
you
for
many
other
things,
but
I
think
back
to
when
I
asked
each
of
you
to
serve
I
want
to
know.
D
But
then,
more
importantly,
you
see
it
in
our
neighborhoods
and
what
this
rewrite
does
for
residents
for
Vitality
across
this
this
city,
for
the
connections
it
makes
possible
amongst
neighborhoods
and
between
homes
and
schools
and
parks
and
everything
else
and
the
place
that
this
rewrite
that
can
get
really
wonky,
but
really
from
a
people
perspective
the
place
that
this
makes
possible
and
and
the
reflection
that
it
provides.
Then
on
so
many
of
the
Committees
and
documents
and
folks
that
came
before
each
of
us
and
then
for
the
people
that
will
come
after
us.
D
So
thank
you.
You
know
just
next
door.
There's
a
retirement
party
for
Rob,
bothfield
and
I
was
talking
about
for
him
the
28
years.
That
he's
with
with
the
city
and
the
impact
he's
had,
but
that
it
was
my
hope
that
you
know,
as
he
retires
and
with
kids
and
grandkids,
as
he
you
know,
goes
through
the
city
that
he'll
remember,
oh
yeah,
I
was
part
of
that.
I
was
part
of
that.
D
That's
part
of
that,
but
that,
ultimately,
while
the
physical
forum
is
what
he
was
part
of,
it's
about
what
happens
in
those
places
and
the
people
and
the
spirit
and
the
soul,
and
that
those
places
make
possible
to
have
come
together,
and
that
is
his
lasting
impact,
and
that
really
is
the
same
for
the
work
that
you've
done
and
when
this
gets
pen
to
paper,
but
ultimately
becomes
something
real
on
the
ground
and
in
our
neighborhoods
for
our
people.
So
thank
you
very.
Very
much
enjoy
your
last
meeting.
D
C
C
Very
rare,
it's
rare
that
it's
successfully
done
and
you
know,
there's
lots
of
examples
of
cities
amending
aspects
of
their
zoning.
You
know
you
take
a
section
or
you
add
a
section
or
you
change
some
aspect
of
it,
but
a
complete
rewrite
is
not
typical
and
we've
talked
a
lot
during
this
process
about
the
last
ordinance
the
city
adopted
in
1966,
which
was
at
a
time
when
cities
were
adopting
ordinances
that
resulted
in
the
pattern
of
growth
that
we've
had
since
then,
since
1970
we've,
congratulations,
you
were
accepted.
C
C
One
thing
about
the
lessons
of
the
last
50
years
in
cities:
the
problems
that
we
all
speak
about
so
much
that
dominate
the
discussions
about
cities
that
people
are
so
frustrated
by
those
problems,
whether
it's
housing,
affordability
or
Transportation,
I'll
mention
those
too
I
won't
get
into
climate
related
things
and
how
we
adapt
to
the
climate.
But
just
if
you
stick
to
housing,
affordability
and
transportation,
which
tend
to
be
you
pick
a
number
eighty
percent
of
the
conversation
as
it
relates
to
things.
C
What
we've
learned
over
the
last
50
years
is
those
problems
are
the
result
of
spreading
people
out.
Those
problems
are
not
the
result
of
cities
growing.
It's
the
opposite
of
that.
The
problems
that
frustrate
us
the
most
are
the
result
of
this
pattern
that
was
encoded
in
the
60s
and
70s
that
spread
everybody
out.
It's
not
concentration.
That's
created
those
problems,
it's
the
opposite
of
it
and
you
know
what
we
know
about
cities.
Is
they
get
better
with
more
people
if
you're
intentional
about
it?
C
So
I
know
it's
going
to
be
an
interesting
few
months
here,
as
we
go
through
this
process,
and
this
is
the
way
the
process
works.
This
is
the
last
part,
for
me
is
the
way
public
processes
happen
in
this
country
in
cities
and
towns.
Is
you
have
ideas
you
debate
them
in
public?
Then
you
go
through
those
elected
boards
and
appointed
boards
seeking
to
get
the
best
product
you
can
and
as
you
go
through
those
public
process,
there's
lots
of
ideas
emerge.
C
You
create
the
best
version
of
what
you
emerges
from
those
discussions
that
you
can
and
then
it
goes
through
a
public
process.
Inevitably
it
shifts
some
through
that
process.
In
our
case,
it'll
be
the
pnz,
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission,
as
well
as
City
Council
and
people
come
to
those
meetings
and
they
say
we
don't
agree
with
this
or
that
as
it
relates
to
that
ordinance,
you've
drafted
and
the
pnz
and
the
city
council
will
take
that
into
considerations
and
undoubtedly
make
some
adjustments
as
it
moves
forward.
C
C
That's
resulted
from
this
and
that
that
therefore
you're,
really
you
you
are,
you
are
equipped,
as
this
thing
gets
into
its
official
process,
to
make
really
helpful
comments
to
pnz
and
city
council
as
it
relates
to
this,
because
this
isn't
We're
All
in
This,
Together,
no
question
about
it,
whether
we're
successful
or
not.
This
is
a
community
of
people
that
needs
to
come
together
around
how
we
are
solve
these
these
these
difficult
problems
so
more
that
I
intended
to
say
but
Jessica
you
wanted
to
speak
and
then
we'll
get
into
the
presentation
with
Lindsay.
Well.
E
And
and
before
doing
that
too,
just
thank
you
all
for
your
participation.
I
came
in
on
this,
maybe
Midway
through
the
time
that
you've
all
been
together,
so
I've
only
seen
half
of
the
amount
of
work
that
that
you've
all
done
and
it's
been
significant
and
it's
been
impressive
and
it's
been
admirable.
So
I
just
appreciate
all
of
your
time
and
and
two
that
I'm
on
this,
this
side
of
the
process.
E
So
this
is
our
proposed
adoption
timeline
and
and
the
steps
that
we
need
to
take
so
following
today
we're
we're
still
revising
making
edits
working
with
Clarion
to
get
that
final
version
of
what
will
be
the
code
that
we
will
submit
for
adoption
as
the
so
we'll
actually
be
the
applicant
in
this.
So
we
submit
an
application
to
for
a
zoning
or
a
comp
plan
text
Amendment
and
a
zoning
code
text
Amendment.
E
E
Probably
looking
at
for
a
series
of
four
days
where
the
order
would
be
as
the
applicant
we,
we
have
a
staff
report
that
then
is
presented
time
for
public
comment
and
then
a
procedural
move
of
The
Code
by
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
to
make
a
recommendation
to
council
for
the
zoning
map
and
text
Amendment,
as
well
as
the
or
the
comp
plan
text
Amendment
and
the
the
code
Amendment.
So
that
would
happen
at
the
end
of
April.
E
So
there'll
be
a
significant
public
involvement
opportunity
at
that
point
and
then
the
turnaround
is
again
about
another
60
days
to
get
in
front
of
City.
The
council,
then,
with
that
recommendation
from
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
for
a
four-day
series
of
meetings
at
city
council
for
the
staff
report,
recommendation
public
testimony
and
then
consideration
and
movement
by
the
city
council.
E
At
that
point,
we're
not
going
into
effect
there'll
be
an
effective
date
in
the
code
once
it's
adopted
and
we're
targeting
winter,
whether
that's
December
January,
but
at
some
point
to
go
into
effect
in
parallel
to
all
of
this
work
with
the
adoption
and
and
it's
as
it
moves
through
its
different
hearing
levels,
there's
a
significant
amount
of
work
have
happening
on
the
staff
and
for
how
we
implement
the
code.
So
what
is
our
process?
What
are
our
systems
that
reinforce
that?
What's
the
training
that
needs
to
happen
with
staff?
E
What's
the
material
represented
on
our
website
to
help
the
public?
How
do
we
train
our
design,
review,
historic
preservation,
planning
and
zoning
and
Council
on
the
new
code,
and
so
that
that
works
hap?
It's
already
started:
we've
we've
really
kind
of
unpacked
all
the
steps
that
need
to
be
taken,
but
that
will
be
in
parallel,
then,
with
the
the
adoption
timeline
of
how
we
move
forward
for
implementation,
so
that
winter
2023
2024
when
we
go
into
effect,
we're
ready
to
go
so
any
questions
on
the
timeline.
B
Yes,
so
you
guys
have
been
with
us
as
long
as
the
process
has
been
started
so
really
in
November
of
2019
and
you've
come
this
far
and
as
part
of
that,
we've
done
a
significant
amount
of
community
outreach
and
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
feedback
both
from
our
community
and
from
you
as
well.
So
we
have
been
really
thinking
about
all
of
those
ideas
and
how
we
can
incorporate
those
into
the
final
document,
and
so
we
kind
of
want
to
go
through
some
of
those
key
updates
with
you
today.
B
So
you
recognize
what
has
changed
from
the
last
draft
that
you
saw
and
what
you
will
see
in
February
when
we
release
that
document
and
a
lot
of
these
things
you're
going
to
say
hey.
That
was
my
contribution,
because
you
guys
made
those
specific
contributions
that
are
really
making
the
difference
in
this
code
and
when
we
see
the
key
updates
you're
going
to
see
lots
of
minor
spelling
errors,
grammar
changes
and
you
might
see
some
organizational
changes,
whereas
something
might
have
been
in
one
section
of
the
code
and
we
have
relocated
it.
B
B
B
So
if
you
remember,
we
said
if
you're
on
a
corner
lot,
they're
allowed
people
said:
hey,
there's
some
other
locations
throughout
the
city
where
that
might
be
appropriate,
and
so
we
have
created
a
allowances
if
you
go
through
the
conditional
use
permitting
process,
if
you're
an
interior
lot
and
so
we'll
walk
through
some
of
that
with
you
as
well.
We've
updated
some
of
our
use,
specific
standards,
dimensional
standards
and
development
standards.
Some
of
those
include
electric
vehicle
charging
bicycle
parking,
taking
a
look
at
the
small
lot
or
multi-family
use
standards.
B
So
you're
going
to
see
some
of
those
changes
and
we'll
walk
through
some
of
that
with
you
as
well,
and
then
there's
going
to
really
going
to
be
some
process
improvements,
because
we
heard
a
lot
of
feedback
in
regard
to
noticing
and
how
people
can
participate
in
the
process.
And
so
we've
made
some
amendments
or
some
clarifications
that
really
address
those
things
as
we
move
forward.
G
Take
it
great
thanks,
Andrea
again,
thank
you
to
everyone
for
being
here
happy
to
be
celebrating
our
last
CAC
as
Andrew
said,
we'll
walk
through
some
specifics.
Some
of
these
are
ones
that
Andrea
already
mentioned,
but
maybe
worth
giving
a
little
bit
more
information
on
so
we'll
go
kind
of
through
the
modules
talking
about
the
changes
we've
made
to
each
individual
module,
we're
going
to
start
with.
G
First,
the
zoning
districts
we
added
Street
State
Standards
in
our
residential
zones,
specifically
for
collector
and
art,
arterial,
roadways
and
I,
actually
think
this
was
one
of
Marissa's
comments
about
making
sure
that
new
residential
subdivisions,
if
they're
on
a
collector,
they
have
the
appropriate
streetscape
to
make
a
comfortable
walking
environment.
As
Andrea
said
in
the
mixed
view,
sounds
we've
created
the
mixed
youth
mixed
use.
Health
so
you'll
see
that
there
very
similar
to
what
we
have
today
for
Health
Services.
G
We
got
a
lot
of
feedback
about
the
allowed
form
and
alternative
use
and
that
it
wasn't
very
easy
to
find
and
understand
in
that
code.
So
what
we've
decided
is
to
move
that
content.
It
was
in
about
three
different
spots
in
the
first.
The
Consolidated
draft
we've
moved
all
of
that
content
to
the
front
end
of
the
code.
So
if
you're
in
MX3
you'll
see
those
allowed
form
alternative
form,
just
right
in
that
everywhere,
you
everything
you
need
to
know
is
in
that
MX3
section
of
the
code.
G
So,
instead
of
having
to
look
there,
the
use
table
and
then
for
again
in
the
building
design
is
all
in
one
spot
where
then
our
industrial
zones,
as
Andrea,
said
we
added
in
industrial
technology,
which
is
I3,
which
is
very
similar
to
today's
current
T2.
And
then
we
got
a
lot
of
feedback
on
our
open
land
and
what
we've
done
is
now
updated
that
name
to
reflect
more
accurately
what
it
is,
which
is
Transitional
and
institutional
lands
and
we're
working
through
our
conversion
map.
G
As
Andrea
said,
we've
allowed
drive-throughs
in
more
locations,
but
have
very
strict
design
requirements
for
those
drive-throughs
and
then
also,
as
Andrea
has
said,
we've
expanded
where
neighborhood
cafes
are
allowed,
however,
we're
only
allowing
them
as
a
conditional
use.
So
this
speaks
to
a
lot
of
feedback.
We
received
about
having
notification
for
neighborhood
Cafe.
So
with
a
conditional
use,
there
will
be
neighbor
notification
and
we've
also
adjusted
the
business
hours
again.
So
it's
previously,
it
was
6
to
10
pm.
G
We
heard
feedback
about
that,
and
so
now
we've
shortened
those
business
hours,
5G
facilities
and
who
are
Wireless.
We
had
a
lot
of
feedback
about
that.
We
reviewed
our
legal
advice.
Park
worked
closely
with
them
and
then
clarified
some
of
those
standards
around
height
and
pole
ownership
and
then
similar
to
how
we
updated
the
design
standards
for
duplex,
Triplex
and
fourplex.
G
We
cleaned
up
the
design
standards
for
multi-family
so
trying
to
achieve
more
consistent
regulation
of
those
design
standards
and
making
sure
that
when
you're
reading
the
duplex
Triplex
floorplex
we're
re
we're
regulating
what
we
want
to
be
regulating
and
saying
within
the
multi-family
and
then
it's
going
to
get
the
highest
quality
of
development.
We
can
get.
G
We,
you
may
remember
in
our
dimensional
tables,
we
had
removed
Street
Frontage
requirements
for
our
residential
zone,
so
meaning
that
you
wouldn't
have
to
have
a
designated
Street
Frontage.
We
added
that
back
in
because
we
kind
of
saw
a
lot
more
issues,
not
having
Street
Frontage,
and
so
we
put
that
back
in
there
are
going
to
be
some
ways
to
still
have
creative
building
type,
but
it
would
be
more
of
a
case-by-case
basis.
We
clarified
our
lot
size
requirements
for
the
R2
and
R3.
G
G
So
there's
a
story
height
you
can't
exceed,
and
then
actually
we
had
that
conversation
at
our
last
CAC,
which
was
really
helpful
and
helped
us
understand
the
problem
a
little
bit
better
and
then
we
added
that
this
was
something
we
think
will
be
a
big
Improvement
that
wasn't
directly
addressed
but
I
think
a
lot
of
concerns.
People
had
that
this
hopefully
can
address
a
bit.
We
added
an
additional
setback
requirement
for
buildings
on
the
third
story.
G
So
if
you
are
building
up
the
three
stories
and
you're
adjacent
to
a
single
family
or
a
single
story
home,
you
do
have
to
be
that
third
story
has
to
be
set
back
further.
This
is
in
our
current
code
and
we
can
we
decided
to
continue
that
requirement
just
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
the
massing
relief
when
you're
next
to
a
single
story
home.
G
We
have
increased
our
front
setbacks
in
the
mixed-use
districts.
This
is
specifically
to
address
shy,
distance
or
shoulder
and
yeah
distance.
That's
the
right
word
because
we
had
a
zero
foot
setback,
but
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
have
that
be
more
comfortable
at
the
entrance,
so
we
added
three
feet.
So
it's
three
foot
sat
back
and
we've
also
increased
the
height
in
MX3
and
mx4
to
70
feet.
We
had
a
lot
of
very
good,
pointed
questions.
G
What
type
of
form
do
you
want
in
the
MX3
and
then
your
height
should
allow
that
form,
and
so
we
had
to
do
a
little
reflection
and
understand
that
that's
what
we
wanted
with
that
height
and
then
we
had
presented
this
at
our
last
CAC.
We
added
the
setback.
Requirements
for
industrial
uses
adjacent
to
not
only
residential
zones
but
a
residential
uses.
So
that's
a
big
one
to
provide
some
protection
if
you're
not
only
a
residential
use,
but
if
you
are
a
residential.
H
I
I
We
did
go
ahead
and
put
a
requirement
for
class
III,
trees
and
interior
parking
lot
planter
Islands,
which
may
seem
like
a
funny
thing
to
point
out.
If
you
don't
think
about
parking
lots
a
lot,
but
we're
really
trying
to
really
trying
to
encourage
those
class
three
trees,
as
in
as
many
places
as
possible
throughout
the
city,
because
that's
really
providing
that
shade
canopy
in
those
large
mature
trees.
I
So
trying
to
continue
to
just
keep
improving
that
language,
making
sure
it's
clear
and
useful,
but
also
getting
us
the
changes
that
we
need
and
then
for
more
development
standards.
We
did
go
back
through
those
residential
small
lot
standards
and
updated
those
design
standards
tried
to
make
them.
You
know
simplified
where
we
can
and
matching
with
other
parts
of
the
code.
We
also
made
some
changes
to
the
record
of
survey,
so
the
record
of
survey
process
would
be
changed
to
where
it
only
refers
to
lot
line,
adjustments
and
lot
consolidations.
I
So
under
current
code,
you
can
do
a
minor
land
division
of
up
to
four
parcels
and
you're
not
required
to
do
any
of
the
improvements
that
would
come
with
a
subdivision,
and
so
this
is
a
you
know,
potentially
pretty
significant
change
of,
considering
that
any
subdivisions
of
lots
is
in
fact,
a
subdivision.
A
record
of
survey
has
to
do
with
the
adjustment
of
lot
lines,
but
not
the
creation
of
New
Lots.
I
We
added
some
requirements
to
the
incentives
around
sustainability
for
solid
waste
diversion.
We
heard
a
lot
of
feedback
about
the
lack
of
composting
and
recycling
facilities
and
multiple
family
dwellings,
and
that
folks,
that
are
wanting
to
live
in
apartments,
don't
get
that
same
access
to
composting
and
recycling
so
trying
to
work
on
improving
that,
and
then
we
also
created
that
incentive
for
R2
and
R3,
because
we
got
a
lot
of
feedback
that,
if
you're
going
to
allow
for
affordability,
incentives
in
other
zones,
why
aren't
you
promoting
affordability
in
R2
and
R3
as
well?
I
So
we
tried
to
incorporate
some
of
that
across
more
zones
and
then,
finally,
we
did
a
requirement
for
all
new
development,
that's
greater
than
five
residential
units
and
all
non-residential
units
that
you
need
to
demonstrate
that
one
assured
water
supply.
So
that's
a
big
one
as
well
and
then
finally
promise.
This
is
the
last
one
process
and
procedure.
I
So
a
couple
of
big
changes
here
as
well.
We
did
previously
type.
You
know
we
have
the
typology
of
type
1
type,
2
type,
3,
Type
4.
One
of
the
key
differences
with
type
1
is
that
it
was
not
appealable,
because
these
were
very,
very
simple
kind
of
over-the-counter
things
like
the
home
occupation
that
could
be
handled
at
the
clerk's
office.
I
However,
we
did
decide
to
make
all
application
types
appealable,
so
type
ones
could
be
appealed.
They
would
appeal
to
the
hearing
examiner
the
same
as
a
type
two
and
they're
both
administrative
applications.
There
are
still
differences
between
Type,
2
and
type
1
in
terms
of
how
simple
that
review
can
be,
but
that
kind
of
gives
some
flexibility
as
well
as
some
predictability
for
folks
about.
You
know
how
the
appeal
process
works.
I
We
made
some
updates
to
mailed
noticing
requirements
because
our
old
code
and
including
our
new
code,
there
are
issues
where
many
of
us
are
familiar
with
this
right.
I
think
there
was
a
recent
case
of
this,
where,
if
your
property
is
the
subject
of
a
project-
and
you
don't
have
a
specific
address
for
that,
how
do
we
know
that
you're
being
sufficiently
noticed?
So
we
wrote
in
some
language
to
make
sure
that
that's
happening.
I
I
We
also
made
some
changes
to
the
special
allowed
use
and
change
that
to
all
allowed
or
alternative
form
and
updated
some
of
those
findings
to
make
those
a
little
bit
more
useful,
and
then
we
also
aligned
all
the
findings
as
best
we
could,
with
the
local
land
use
planning
act,
so
we've
really
gone
back
through
Lupa
and
compared
our
findings
to
that
language,
to
make
sure
that
we're
really
capturing
all
of
the
requirements
in
state
law
as
well
so
I
think
that's
pretty
much
it.
This
is
not
an
exhaustive
list
by
any
means.
I
These
are
really
the
the
big
updates,
I'm
sure
there'll
be
other
things
that
you
know
we'll
continue
to
discuss
as
the
when
the
code
gets
published.
Just
want
to.
Thank
you
all
again
for
all
of
your
feedback.
We
received
a
ton
of
feedback
before
we
kind
of
close
comment
periods
so
that
we
could
make
these
edits
and
I
just
want
to
say
too
that
just
so,
you
can
kind
of
see
like
what
it
was
like
on
the
back
end.
I
All
of
you
and
we're
gonna
do
comments
and
then
we'll
kind
of
go
into
the
next
steps
for
participation,
but
just
want
to
point
out
too
that
you
know
these
are,
as
we
see
these
changes
that
we've
Incorporated
and
then
we
go
through
that
hearing
process
of
discussion.
There's
going
to
be
lots
more
and
more
discussion
about
these
changes
and
like
what
we
think
should
be
different
or
what
should
be
increased
or
decreased
or
whatever,
so
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
that
discussion
plays
out.
I
B
So
with
that
there
has
been
a
lot
that's
on
the
table,
but
hopefully
you
heard
on
that
list
of
items.
You
know
very
specific
things
that
we
specifically
heard
from
you,
or
we
heard
at
our
community
engagement
events
so
that
we're
being
responsive,
but
we
want
to
let
you
know
what
those
key
changes
are
and
then
hear
your
responses.
Are
we
on
the
right
track?
Have
we
have
we
heard
the
important
things?
B
G
J
So
I
mean
based
on
what
you've
shared
so
far.
It
looks
good
I
have
a
little
heartburn
with
drive-throughs,
but
you
know
it's
not
perfect
and
we
have
to
compromise.
I
am
nervous
and
maybe
have
lost
a
little
sleep.
This
is
a
daunting
task
for
everyone
involved,
especially
well
for
everyone.
So
you
know.
Are
we
getting
it
right?
J
We
don't
know
that
and
I
guess
time
will
tell
so.
I
really
appreciate
consideration
of
some
distance
in
the
industrial
zones
with
residential
zones
or
our
homes
or
businesses.
That
is
really
important,
at
least
for
me
and
I.
Think
that's
it
for
now
and
I
do
I
want
to
thank
the
staff.
I
mean
this
I
can't
believe
we
have
been
sitting
around
and
reading
and
learning
and
providing
comments
since
late
2019,
but
you
have
done
a
lot
of
work
on
your
end
that
it
has
not
gone
unnoticed.
B
A
A
A
A
A
A
So
in
that
way
the
five
minutes
helps.
But
let's
see
the
t2
I
was
glad
that
that's
back
in
I
kind
of
feel
like
we
have
been
kind
of
two
steps
backwards.
Maybe
two
steps
forward
again
with
that:
I
hope
that
we
can
put
things
like
Amazon,
fulfillment
centers,
which
really
should
be
in
T2
and
really
shouldn't
just
be
considered.
Warehouses
in
this
day
and
age
is
pretty
regressive.
Zoning
I
hope
that
they
will
go
where
they
belong,
either
in
M2
or
T2.
A
So
in
terms
of,
if
the
allowed
uses
reflect
kind
of
the
modern
reality
of
industrial
zoning,
that
would
also
be
good,
but
it's
a
good
step
to
at
least
re-separate
those
yeah.
So
so
those
are
kind
of
the
detailed
things
there
step
back
a
moment.
I
see
it
a
little
bit
different
than
dim.
On
your
comments.
A
There
I
see
the
main
problem
with
City
growing
is
that
it's
becoming
a
more
segregated,
economically
and
kind
of
politically
segregated
in
some
ways,
city
as
we
get
bigger,
not
that
there's
there's
always
been.
Of
course
those
Tendencies,
but
I,
see
them
becoming
more
entrenched,
and
one
way
to
that
that's
expressed
is
the
way
that
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
especially
those
parts
of
the
comprehensive
plan
that
most
of
us
really
focus
on.
A
You
know
if
you
enforce
it,
we'll
sue
you
and
the
opportunity
here
is
to
put
as
much
of
the
comprehensive
plan
the
good
things
about
the
comprehensive
plan
that
that
everybody
loves
into
code
and
I'm
afraid
that
we
haven't
gotten
there
yet.
But
of
course,
we'll
be
looking
at
these
actual
details,
but
that
is
a
way
to
prevent
a
cityscape
that
reflects
that
increased
kind
of
economic
segregation,
I'm
afraid
we're
moving
towards
so
lots
of
comments.
But
thank
you.
Yeah.
K
A
And
thank
you
seriously.
Thank
you.
I
know.
It's
been
a
lot
of
hard
work
and
I
know
you've
all
been
very
dedicated.
So
even
though
I'm
critical
I,
it's
a
hard
thing
to
get
right.
You
know
this
is
all
the
development
agreements
for
many
many
parcels
of
land
for
the
next
50
years.
You
guys
got
to
figure
it
out
in
advance
and
that's
that's
a
huge,
huge
task.
So
thanks
foreign.
B
L
But
that's
one
question
the
other
question
is:
did
we
address
any
I
know
that
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
around
when
the
neighborhood
meeting
occurs
and
the
development
application
process,
and
there
was
also
a
lot
of
discussion
around
when
things
are
going
to
be
published
and
uploaded
to
that
site.
But
I
didn't
see
anything
in
the
slides
about
that.
Has
any
of
that
changed
since
the
last
time.
B
B
Lastly,
we
had
talked
a
lot
about
the
process,
and
so
when
we
talked
about
what
would
a
development
application
be
as
we
move
forward,
we
said
you
had
an
initial
concept
review.
Then
you
went
to
your
neighborhood
meeting
if
it
was
applicable
to
make
sure
that
you
got
those
comments.
You
noticed
in
that
last
slide
that
we
saw
about
process
and
procedure.
We
actually
combined
the
mid
process
and
the
inner
departmental
review
and
process
to
kind
of
make
it
more
efficient
and
see
if
we
couldn't
get
that
all
identified,
then,
as
Jessica
had
mentioned
earlier.
B
That
was
really
that's
just
an
opportunity
for
us
to
make
sure
that
somebody
heard
the
neighborhood
feedback,
but
we
have
identified
in
the
procedural
piece
that
when
we
go
to
the
inner
departmental
review,
we
can
say
please
present
the
findings
from
the
neighborhood
meeting
and
we
would
create
a
document
that
doesn't
say:
did
the
neighborhood
meeting
go
well
or
did
it
not
that
it
has
some
objective
criteria?
So,
did
you
hear
comments
in
regard
to
Transportation?
B
What
were
those
comments,
and
so
I
heard
that
a
Crossing
is
needed
at
this
location
or
that
there's
a
lack
of
sidewalk
in
the
neighborhood?
So
it
gets
more
objective
in
that
regard,
and
then
we
can
say.
Okay,
you
have
heard
that
information,
and
this
is
how
do
you
met
our
criteria
for
Access
and
connectivity?
B
Have
you
met
our
goals
for
active
mobility
and
and
key
Transportation
those
types
of
things,
and
so
that's
we've
tried
to
create
up
for
efficiency,
Clarity
and
then
making
sure
that
we
were
preserving
privacy
in
the
right
spots
and
making
it
public
in
the
right
spot
as
well
to
make
sure
the
public
could
actively
participate
when
once
it
was
ready
to
be
seen
by
the
public.
So
hopefully
that
answers
your
questions.
M
M
M
It's
been
daunting
for
us
and
how
is
the
I
think
there's
going
to
be
more
questions
about
folks
are
going
to
want?
Do
we
still
get
an
opportunity
to
comment?
So
that's
the
first
one
and
then
once
this
is
implemented
because
I'm
hopeful
it's
going
to
be
implemented,
any
plan
that
I've
been
involved
in
no
matter
how
much
you
think
you
did
it
right,
there's
always
little
glitchy
things.
You
know
because
I
think
that
might
also
come
up
in
the
future.
M
I
Roberta,
if
I
could
just
respond
really
quick
to
your
last
sort
of
thought,
I
think
it's
a
really
important
one
and
it's
one
that
we're
definitely
thinking
about
a
lot
as
well.
So
I
think
this
has
been
mentioned
throughout
the
process,
maybe,
but
it
Bears
repeating
again
that
just
because
it
was
60
years
or
whatever
since
the
last
time,
the
zoning
code
was
really
overhauled
and
improved
in
a
substantial
way
doesn't
mean
that
we
should
wait
another
60
years
before
we
do
that
again
right.
I
So
it's
really
going
to
be
important
that
we
should
be
able
to
identify
as
a
community
and
as
a
city
going
forward.
What
are
the
things
that
we
can
continue
to
do
better
or
you
know
what
are
things
that
are
Maybe,
not
even
within
the
scope
of
our
imagination
today,
but
maybe
two
years
from
now,
we'll
think
of
things
that
could
really
improve
the
way
that
we
approach
you
know,
building
our
city,
whether
it's
you
know
really
protecting
our
like
sensitive
environment
or
different
kinds
of
streetscapes.
I
There's
new
information
and
knowledge
being
born
out
all
the
time.
So,
there's
no
reason
for
us
to
just
decide
that,
because
this
is
what
we
all
agreed
on,
then
we
can't
ever
improve
it.
You
know
so.
I
I
certainly
hope
that
through
this
process
that
we'll
all
continue
to
identify
those
things
that
we
should
not
stop
working
on
when
this
becomes
a
new
code,
we
should
that
should
be
the
go
time
for
us
to
keep
working
on
those
things
and
keep
presenting
those
ideas
to
improve
the
code
in
the
future.
So
thank
you
for
that.
C
One
other
point
Roberta
to
your
first
comment
and
people's
ability
to
continue
to
comment
on
the
ordinance
and
I
mentioned
this
in
my
opening
remarks.
But
the
process
is
such
that
we're
still
going
to
have
public
hearings
at
planning
and
zoning
commission
as
well
as
city
council
and,
of
course
the
community
will
be
invited
and
welcomed
to
continue
to
comment
on
the
ordinance
at
both
pnz
and
city
council,
and
our
expectation
would
be
that
comments
will
result
in
what
in
refinements
to
this.
F
Excuse
me,
this
is
Drew
yeah.
Thank
you.
Another
round
of
edits
and
I
think
it's
proof
again
that
there's
some
sincere
listening
going
on
here.
Do
we
all
agree
with
everything?
Probably
not,
but
that's
not
the
goal,
but
I
think
it's
always
been
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
Overall,
so
I've
been
in
your
shoes
during
a
comp
plan,
update
and
probably
pales
in
comparison
to
the
amount
of
time
you've
spent
on
this
effort.
So
thank
you
I
hope.
That's
a
universal!
Thank
you
today.
F
I
do
have
one
question
and
hopefully
the
answer
is
helpful.
If
we
are
fielded
out
in
the
community
with
with
it
as
well,
but
taking
the
Adu
modification
with
the
60
requirement,
hopefully
we're
all
anticipating
some
success
with
these
incentives
that
are
encouraging.
Affordability
is
the
method
of
enforcing
that
going
to
fall
to
the
city.
Will
the
city
be
conducting
annual
audits
Outreach
ensuring
that
if
those
incentives
are
used
that
folks
are
actually
holding
true
to
that?
Does
that
responsibility
at
least
initially
fall
into
the
city
of
Boise
to
enforce.
B
Yes,
and
so,
if
you
were
to
get
an
incentive,
your
entitlement
would
be
attached
to
that
there
would
be
a
deed
restriction
that
goes
with
that.
So,
as
the
property
is
bought
and
sold,
it
travels
with
the
deed
restriction,
but
as
well.
There
are
annual
reporting
mechanisms
that
have
to
take
place
again.
We
know
that
when
we
create
these
things,
there's
processes
and
procedures
that
have
to
happen
in
the
background,
and
so
our
housing
staff
is
diligently
working
on
creating
a
form
that
makes
it
easy
to
report.
B
Make
sure
that
we
have
the
information
that
we
are
looking
for
and
it's
legally
meeting
all
of
those
criteria,
and
it
also
would
establish
process
and
procedure.
If
you
have
an
individual,
that's
living
in
the
home,
they've
below
the
60
percent,
they
got
a
raise
now
they're
at
61
percent.
What
happens
so
making
sure
that
those
are
all
procedurally
I,
documented
and
and
very
clear,
so.
G
Yeah
and
Andrew,
just
to
speak
to
that
our
goal
is
to
have
a
guidebook
that
will
come
out
when,
by
the
time,
the
effect,
ideally
the
effective
date
of
the
new
code,
so
that
it's
not
only
that
we
have
the
incentive
and
it's
in
the
code
is
that
we're
being
as
diligent
as
we
can
to
advertise
these
incentives
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
to
Roberta
we're
going
to
be
tracking.
Are
we
getting
the
incentives
we
want?
Are
we
are
we
getting
the
affordable
housing
built?
I!
G
Think
that's
what
everyone
wants
so
tracking
that
over
time,
having
a
guidebook
that
has
the
frequently
asked
questions,
not
only
what
happens
when
someone
gets
raised,
our
utilities
included
what
are
there's
if
you've
ever
gotten
a
phone
call
from
anyone
trying
to
do
affordable
housing.
There's
a
lot
of
questions
in
that
and
I.
Think
probably
someone
can
speak
to
the
housing
bonus
ordinance
and
that
process
that
we
didn't
have
a
guidebook.
So
we're
working
on
that,
and
that's
definitely
on
our
plan.
E
And
then
the
last
piece
of
that,
too,
is:
how
are
we
actively
promoting
the
incentives,
because
I
think
we
don't?
What
we
don't
want
to
have
happen
is
that
we
passively
sit
back
and
think
that
this
is
something
that
automatically
would
be
taken
advantage
of,
that
people
will
see
this
and
and
know
how
to
do
it
and
want
to
have
these
deed
restrictions
and
build
that
type
type
of
affordable
housing.
But
how
do
we
proactively
speak
to
it,
educate?
E
What
are
the
benefits
in
terms
of
timeline
and
and
process
that
we
can?
You
know,
that's
a
lot
tied
to
Byron's
coming
soon.
We
had
that
conversation
of
we
can.
We
can
build
it
ourselves,
we
can
incentivize
it.
We
can
provide
Financial
incentives,
but
but
also
it's
in
our
process
that
we
have
a
very
strong
cared
or
stick
to
to
encourage
that,
instead
of
being
taken
advantage
of
and
used.
N
Hi,
this
is
Byron
love,
seeing
the
neighborhood,
Cafe
and
neighborhood
retail
retooling
portion
of
the
code.
So
I
just
had
a
clarification
on
that.
If,
if
we're
talking
about
neighborhood
cafes
retail
as
an
interior
lot,
is
that
what
applies
to
the
the
conditional
use
approval
and
not
a
corner
lot
or
both
foreign.
B
Publicly
it
says
that
on
a
corner,
lot
is
allowed
administratively.
That
will
continue
to
happen
for
Corner
Lots.
If
you
are
interested
in
developing
something
interior
on
an
interior
lot,
it
you're
no
longer
prohibited.
You
are
now
given
the
path.
If
you
do
the
conditional
use
permitting
process
that
would
provide
the
notification
that
we
heard
from
the
neighbors.
They
would
also
have,
of
course,
those
use,
specific
standards
that
are
attached
to
it,
and
then
it
would
also
have
that
additional
level
of
review.
N
Great
thank
you
for
the
clarification
so
that
that's
basically
a
conditional
use
approval
for
the
use,
and
we
imagine
that
the
impacts
that
the
neighbors
will
want
to
talk
about
are
things
like
parking
and
hours
of
operation,
and
things
like
that.
Is
that
kind
of
why
it's
a
conditional
use
and
maybe
not
a
like
a
like
a
pre-conference
or
a
pre-designed
conference,
and
that
sort
of
thing.
B
I
think
the
information
that
we
heard
from
our
community
was
is
that
they
wanted
to
participate
in
the
process
when
those
types
of
things
were
allowed.
So
we
do
have
the
use
specific
standards
that
limits
the
size.
It
does
have
parking
requirements
that
are
attached
to
it.
Our
it
limits
hours
of
operation,
all
of
those
things
would
be
identified
in
the
use
table
or
those
use
specific
standards.
G
F
Can
I
ask
just
one
thing,
because
it's
so
related
to
that
I
just
for
consideration
the
hours
that
you've
sort
of
reduced
just
top
of
mind
is
the
weather
and
Seasons
we
have
here.
We
have
we're
just
fortunate
to
have
these
super
long
days
in
the
summer
and
I
think
most
people
would
like
to
enjoy
that
Beyond
eight
o'clock,
so
that's
oftentimes,
some
of
the
hottest
parts
of
the
day
so
just
for
consideration,
I
mean
for
talking
small
scale,
Neighborhood
use,
I.
Think
taking
advantage
of
our
weather
here
is
not
a
bad
thing.
I
I
think
that's
a
great
point.
I
think.
Certainly
part
of
the
discussion
that
came
out
of
this
is
that
you
know
how
do
I
put
this.
Sometimes,
when
we're
looking
at
one
individual
part
of
the
code,
it's
easy
to
get
tunnel
vision
about
that
particular
piece
and
not
see
how
it
all
relates
to
the
others.
I
think
where
we
kind
of
came
down
is
that
you
know
when
we
say
neighborhood,
retail
or
a
neighborhood
Cafe.
I
We
had
heard
some
feedback
from
folks
that
you
know
smaller
commercial
developers
like
they
really
rely
on
convenient
parking
access
for
their
customers,
so
limiting
that
amount
of
parking
is
going
to
make
that
more
difficult,
and
we
hear
that,
but
it's
a
true
Neighborhood
use,
so
it
needs
to
fit
with
the
neighborhood.
So
our
hope
would
be
that
you
know
if
you
have
that
mixed-use
neighborhood,
that
mx1
that
does
allow
for
restaurants
bars
things
that
can
have
those
longer
hours
of
operation.
I
We
should
be
able
to
see
those
in
areas
where
they
are.
You
know
walkable
bikeable
accessible
for
people
from
their
neighborhood,
but
it's
not
necessarily
something
that
could
just
be
within
a
neighborhood
anywhere.
So
we
did
want
to
sort
of
keep
that
distinction
between
the
two
and
make
some
allowance
for
that.
K
K
I
appreciate
the
combination
of
the
mid
process
and
inner
disciplinary
review.
I
I
think
that'll
help
make
it
more
efficient
and
Builders,
and
developers
will
appreciate
that
I'm
wondering.
Is
there
an
update
on
the
interdisciplinary
review?
Have
we
gotten
some
good
feedback
from
achd
in
the
other
organizations
on
that.
O
All
right,
this
is
Sheldon
I'll,
just
Echo,
the
thanks
to
staff
and
this
group,
because
it
has
been
very
time
intensive
and
I.
Think
we've
I
think
I
know.
I
could
speak
for
myself,
saying
I've
learned
a
lot
from
everyone
in
the
room
and
online,
but
with
that
said
so
a
couple
questions
and
I
may
have
missed
it
on
the
incentives
I
saw
that
it
looked
like
they
were
brought
in
to
to
be
available
in
more
zones.
Is
that
did
I
get
that
right.
O
O
O
This
isn't
my
area
of
expertise
by
any
means,
but
as
an
eastender
I
love
the
market
that
we
have
and
when
it's
not
around,
it's
it's
a
real
bummer
I
would
say,
and
so
and
then,
as
with
my
developer
hat
on,
you
know,
when
you
create
a
scenario
where
a
developer
has
to
go
in
for
a
cup,
you
give
yourself
the
power
to
condition
that
use
it's
a
conditional
use
permit.
So
to
do
both.
O
Require
the
cup
and
decrease
time
limits,
I
I,
just
I,
think
that's
short-sighted,
perhaps
and
I.
Don't
really
know
the
industry
on
these
types
of
things,
but
I'm
just
guessing
that
it
is.
It
is
adding
more
layers
as
to
make
it
more
and
more
difficult
for
these
types
of
places
that
really
make
neighborhoods
tick
to
to
become
real.
So
arguably
the
standard
could
be
the
condition
of
approval
for
an
interior
lot.
L
A
legal
standpoint
there's
a
difference
between
a
variance
and
a
condition
of
approval
and
a
cup,
and
if
you
put
something
as
like,
this
is
what
the
use
can
be
like.
It
can't
go
past
8
PM,
then
you're
requiring
the
applicant
to
prove
necessity
through
a
variance
which
they'll
never
get
I
mean.
That's
like
I,
can't
think
of
any
physical
characteristic
of
a
lot
that
would
allow
it
to
be
open.
Past
8
PM,
like
just
from
a
purely
like.
If
I'm
making
a
legal
argument,
it's
it's
never
going
to
happen.
L
But
yes,
if
it
is
through
a
cup,
you
can
condition
those
uses
with
time
restrictions
and
it
might
be.
You
know
the
time
restriction.
10
pm
makes
sense
when
it
might
be
an
interior
lot.
That's
really
close
to
some
of
those
MX
areas,
and
maybe
it
is
definitely
8
P.M
or
maybe
it's
earlier
in
areas
that
are
really
substantially
residential
and
don't
have
any
you
know,
know
much
commercial
next
to
them.
So
I
I
think
what
Sheldon's
getting
at.
Is
you
give
yourself
some
more
flexibility
to
enact
the
exact
same
thing?
I
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
here
in
case
I'm,
not
sure
if
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
with
this
of
like
the
two
specific
uses,
Neighborhood
Market
and
neighborhood
Cafe
are
uses
that
are
specifically
allowing
for
some
commercial
activity
to
exist
in
purely
residential
zones.
There's
no
restrictions
on
the
number
of
those
that
could
exist
the
distance
between
them,
and
so
it's
not
restricting
anything
to
do
with
any
kind
of
commercial
mixed-use
zoning.
So
this
is
only
applying
to
like
R1
zones
that
are
now
allowing
for
retail
Cafe,
not
daycare.
I
B
Clarification
as
well
Hillary,
if
you
are
on
the
corner,
you
have
those
use
specific
standards,
you're
an
administrative
review.
So
if,
if
we
would
not
have
the
allowance
to
limit
hours
of
operation
for
Corner
Lots,
unless
we
made
them
all
conditional
use
permits,
so
we're
trying
to
create
an
Avenue
where
administrative
approval
is
appropriate
for
a
corner
lot,
if
you
are
interior,
we
know
you're
going
to
have
some
additional
impacts.
That's
where
the
conditional
use
permitting
would
would
kick
in
and
then
just
for
some
give
us
a
little
bit
of
leveling.
O
Q
L
O
O
What
is
the
process
to
revisit
those
num?
Those
the
success
of
those
incentives
and
whether
or
not
those
affordability
restrictions
are
helping
I.E
like
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
okay,
so
we
have
these
affordability.
You
know
it's
based
on
Market
things
change
in
the
world
that
we
cannot
imagine,
and
so
in
two
years
and
four
years,
how
are
you
building
in
to
say
is
60.
The
right
number
is
80.
The
right
number
is
100
am
I
the
right
number.
Yes,.
B
B
B
So
we'll
do
that
as
well,
and
then
we
know
that,
as
Roberta
said,
that
there's
going
to
be
glitches
in
the
code
and
so
I
I've
heard
from
all
of
our
leadership
that
there's
a
very
strong
commitment
to
revisit
this
annually,
to
make
updates
to
to
do
the
things
that
we're
doing
well
continue
them,
if
we're
not
doing
them
well
to
revisit
them
and
reevaluate
those
things.
I.
C
Much
of
how
this
ordinance
will
be
measured
in
terms
of
its
success
has
to
do
with
the
success
of
these
incentives
and
the
ability
of
the
city
to
to
achieve
more
affordable
housing,
and
we've
been
discussing
this
annual
check-in
on
how
that's
how
that's
doing
so.
We
do
have
the
capacity
to
much
better
skill
now
in
terms
of
measuring
these
things,
so
we're
expecting
an
annual
review
of
how
are
we
doing
with
regard
to
these
incentives
so
that
we
can
make
adjustments
as
we
go
and.
G
I
also
think
Sean
there's
a
big
opportunity
to
align
like
the
housing
needs
analysis
that
Housing
Community
Development
does,
which
we
hadn't
had
zoning
incentives
previously.
So
when
the
city
did
their
housing
needs
analysis
in
2021,
we
didn't
have
any
the
housing
bonus
ordinance
had
been
going
on
for
about
six
months,
so
I
think
aligning
now
what
the
full
division
is
doing.
What
the
housing
need
is
what
the
Market's
producing
and
then
what
our
code
is
doing
is
how
we'll
be
able
to
evaluate
better
and
I
think
we're
tracking
all
those
different
components.
E
E
Guess
it's
understanding
which
of
the
Thousand
levers
that
we
are
pulling
are,
are
making
a
difference,
or
is
it
a
combination
of
them
and
evaluating
them
consistently
to
to
really
understand
that
that
this
was
the
the
point
in
time
where
we
started
to
do
something
different
in
which
is
having
the
most
effect
so
I
those
are,
and
then
we
have
the
data.
We
can
track
it,
and
we
can
compare
the
today
scenario
to
this
future
environment
and
just
really
drill
down
on
what?
What,
if
we're
not
seeing
it
happen?
E
E
Yeah,
if
I
can
add
something-
and
this
gets
a
little
bit
of
a
Roberto's
thing-
with
just
kind
of
the
the
feet
that
we
have
ahead
of
us
to
to
tackle
and
how
we'll
do
this
and
it
can
maybe
seem
overwhelming,
but
because
we
live
and
breathe
this
and
do
this
25
hours
a
day.
It's
not
just
the
planning
staff
and
the
the
amount
of
work
that's
happening
throughout
the
city,
because
this.
This
is
something
that
will
affect
the
whole
city.
E
And
so
this
is
something
that
that
affects
and
influences
all
of
the
city
departments,
and
so
the
way
that
legal
and
HR
and
I.T
and
parks
and
and
the
support
that
we
are
getting
for
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
to
make
sure
that
it's
successful
a
lot
of
it.
No
one
will
see,
but
it's
it's
there
and
and
it's
really
the
highest
priority
of
the
city
and
so
I
feel
confident
in
the
successes
of
us
being
able
to
implement
the
final
code.
Because
of
just
this.
E
This
awareness
that
we
all
have
as
a
community
on
what
the
opportunity
is
and
and
that
it's
it's
woefully
needed
and
why
we
need
to
to
do
it,
but
that
we've
we've
thought
about
it.
We've
talked
about
it
in
and
we're
all
very
well
well
versed
as
a
community
about
you
know
what
are
the
choices
that
we
can
make
within
this
code,
so
yeah
just
to
kind
of
add
that
to
the
quality
of
the
anxiety
perhaps
or
increase
it
I'm,
not
sure.
A
See
there
we
go
so
on
the
topic
of
how
we
might
update
this
code
because
that's
been
brought
up
and
I
think
it
is
really
important
and
those
data
you
know
are
so
incredibly
important
and
it's
too
bad.
We
don't
have
more
local
data.
You
know
to
start
with,
but
that's
just
the
way
it
is.
But
what's
the
city's
opinion
from
a
legal
perspective
on
whether
we
can
add
new
constraints
upon
entitled,
Lions
lands
that
we
entitle
for
increased,
you
know
higher
value
uses.
A
A
How
constrained
will
we
be
by
Idaho's
concerned
with
private
property
takings
when
we,
if
we,
if
we
need
to
constrain
those
uses
that
we're
entitling
next
year,
I
I,
think
that's
a
concern
right
now,
of
course,
with
a
rezone
we
can
add
a
development
agreement
and
constrain
that
increase
entitlement
in
the
Public's
interest.
But
how
can
that
can
we
what's?
What's
the
city's
opinion
or
legal
opinion
on
whether
or
not
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
in
the
future,.
C
I
am
not
going
to
give
you
the
city's
legal
opinion,
but
but
I
will
say
that
you
know
the
so
I
think
you're
speaking
to
if
we
adopt
the
ordinance
ordinance
with
X
requirements
for
affordability,
say
it's
68
Ami,
and
then
we
learn
that
that's
not
working.
So
we've
got
to
make
an
adjustment,
and
we
do
want
to
do
that
a
year
after
adoption
or
something
like
that.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
Richard
it's
essentially
adding.
C
What
I
would
say
about
that,
though,
is
that
we
do
that
all
the
time
you
know
I
mean
the
thing
is
that
we
have
to
follow
a
public
process.
We
have
to
give
people
the
right
to
be
heard.
We
have
to
have.
We
have
to
follow
the
the
due
process,
requirements
that
are
embedded
within
the
state
code
as
it
relates
to
zoning
and
land
use
law
and
provided
we
do
that,
then
we
have
the
ability
to
change
regulations
and
we
do
it.
C
A
F
Council
thanks
Richard
I,
think
too
that
if
what
you're
talking
about
is
like
a
retroactive
change
on
a
deed
restriction,
I
think
that
that's
not
what
we're
talking
about
yeah.
So,
but
if
it's
moving
forward
since
it's
incentive
based
in
new
units,
you
could
always
go
back
and
evaluate
what
the
code
is
asking
for
moving
forward.
But.
B
And
I
think
that
is
correct.
So
when
you
go
through
the
process
and
you
have
your
entitlement
approval,
those
are
the
requirements
of
which
you
are.
Those
are
your
standards
that
we
hold
you
to.
If
we
change
those
at
a
later
date,
we
don't
go
back
and
make
everybody
that's
non-conforming
reconform
to
those
standards,
so.
C
So
if
you
have
a
development
and
we
create
this
ordinance
and
you
build
something
in
an
association
with
building
that
you
create
some
deed
restriction
based
on
the
requirements
of
the
ordinance
that
we
adopted,
we
can't
go
back
and
change
those
deed
restrictions,
because
you
built
something
based
on
the
ordinance
that
Council
adopted
through
their
legislative
process.
What
we
can
do,
however,
is
a
year
after
adoption.
C
You've
got
a
property
that
hasn't
been
built,
there's
no
deed
restriction
associated
with
it,
but
we've
determined
that
the
requirements
around
affordability
that
we
included
in
the
original
ordinance
aren't
quite
working.
So
we
have
to
change
these
requirements
and
we
follow
the
required
legislative
process
and
give
notice
and
and
have
hearing.
Then
we
can
change
those
requirements.
But
of
course,
if
you've
done
something
based
on
this
ordinance
and
you've
built
something
that
has
a
deed
restriction,
we
can't
go
back
and
change
that.
A
Yeah
and
that's
the
the
latter
part
wasn't
wasn't
my
question.
No,
that
makes
sense
yeah,
and
so
you
know,
I
see
this,
for
instance,
going
back
to
that
CVS
battle.
That
was,
you
know
on
the
North
End
and
written
up
in
you
know,
City
lab
and
all
that
once
things
are
so
so
if,
with
with
the
same
apply
for
say
you
know,
density
or
or
something
else
could
we
do?
Is
it
do
you
think
legal
in
Idaho?
Has
it
ever
been
done?
A
A
C
What
I
said
I
think
is
correct
that
we
can
change
the
requirements
around
this
ordinance,
provided
we
follow
the
the
law,
as
it
relates
to
legislative
process
you're.
Getting
so
specific
with
these
legal
questions,
I
think
the
best
thing
to
do
would
be
to
absolutely
have
the
City
attorney
respond
to
Idaho
state
law
and
how
that
would
affect
rezoning
in
the
future,
as
it
relates
to
this
ordinance
all
right.
R
R
I,
think
this
process
has
been
remarkable
and
I.
You
know:
I
live
in
this
doggone
zoning
ordinance
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
much
more
I've
learned
and
I've
learned
it
because
of
people
like
like
Ben
zamzow
who's
challenged
some
of
the
some
of
the
zonings
and
then
and
you
all
have
challenged
some
of
the
residential
zonings
and
I.
Look
at
this
ordinance
as
an
as
an
ornate,
an
ordinance
to
incentivize
proper
growth,
not
just
growth,
but
but
proper
growth
and
I.
Think
some
of
the
legal
questions
are
really
centered
around.
H
It
says
green:
can
you
hear
me
boy,
I
came
here
with
a
a
written
statement
which
I'm,
probably
not
gonna,
follow
through
with,
but
I
want
to.
Thank
everybody.
I
was
honored
to
be
selected
for
this
I
realize
how
much
hard
work
it
is
for
all
of
you
guys.
This
is
a
very
difficult
decision
to
make
here.
I
see
a
lot
of
triumphant
Smiles
I,
don't
necessarily
agree
with
everything.
That's
what's
happening,
I'm
very
visual,
even
though
I
I'm
in
the
business
of
construction
I
didn't
consider
myself.
H
H
Some
of
their
questions
makes
me
think
I'm
a
little
smarter
than
what
I
might
appear,
but
the
82
Adu
question
on
you
know:
how
do
we
enforce
that
I?
Like
that?
That's
important,
the
back
door?
How
do
we
escape
this?
We're
from
Roberta
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
a
big
fan
of
of
commercial
in
residential
I
live
out
in
the
country.
H
I,
don't
see
it
working,
maybe
in
the
city,
I
mean
I'm,
not
a
city
guy,
so
I
I,
don't
I
I,
don't
see
how
that
works,
but
I
see
it
inconvenience
for
the
people
who
you
know,
live
next
door
or
something
like
that.
But
you
know:
if
it's
on
a
corridor,
that's
fine.
I
can
see
what
that
makes
to
use
areas
where
that
that
can
work,
maybe
maybe
I'm
wrong
about
that.
H
You
know
you
got
you've,
got
that
and
then
right
across
the
street
down
behind
the
Crescent,
we've
got
another
big
complex
down
there,
that's
being
built
and
they're
they're,
taking
out
the
land
next
to
the
paying
pack.
There.
That's
gonna
probably
be
Apartments,
it's
already
across
the
street
from
another
bunch
of
Apartments.
H
How
do
we
support
that
in
water?
Sewer,
schooling,
emergency?
You
know
requirements
there,
so
we
all
understand
that
there's
development
or
that
the
the
that
people
are
coming
here,
it's
actually
trending
that
people
are
leaving
now
or
people
are
it's
slowed
down.
So
the
idea
of
us
chewing
off
our
foot
to
make
our
shoes
fit
better.
H
H
H
B
B
If
we
don't
have
anything
other
that
you'd
like
to
share
with
the
group,
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
you
are
encouraged
to
continually
participate
so
just
because
the
CAC
is
over.
We
know
that
in
February
we're
going
to
release
the
final
draft
code
that
will
be
submitted,
we're
going
to
have
a
public
hearing
process
that
goes
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
for
a
recommendation
and
our
city
council
for
the
final
adoption
we
encourage
you
to
participate
in
those
hearings,
provide
written
comment.
B
However,
you
choose
to
participate
and
then
again
to
share
with
others.
Let
them
know
that
this
is
happening.
Let
them
know
how
they
can
participate
so,
whether
that's
through
the
neighborhood
associations,
whether
it's
through
your
volunteer
opportunities,
your
professional
associations,
your
friendship
networks,
all
of
those
things,
we
encourage
everybody
to
participate
in
the
process
and
let
them
know
as
well
that
this
isn't
over.
Just
because
staff
has
completed
a
final
draft
I
assure
for
you.
My
job
is
not
over.
B
We
will
be
presenting
through
the
public
hearing
process
but
as
part
of
that,
I
expect
that
our
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
will
make
recommendations
and
our
city
council
will
make
modifications
and
so
we'll
be
adjusting
based
on
the
community
feedback
that
we
received
during
that
process.
So
it's
still
evolving.
B
We
are
not
at
a
final
document,
yet
today
we
won't
be
there
until
city
council
has
formally
approved
that
after
the
end
of
the
process.
So
please
please,
please
stay
involved,
encourage
others
to
participate
as
well.
We'll
continue
to
be
a
resource
for
you
or
any
information
that
you
need
as
well,
so
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out
to
us
and
then
as
a
big.
Thank
you.
We
want
to
invite
you
to
have
some
sweet
treats
on
us
and
then
also
join
us
afterwards.
P
Sorry
I'm
just
going
to
add
a
few
more
things,
because
Francis
is
the
only
one
online
because
most
of
you
all
here
in
person,
so
we
appreciate
that
and
she
did
leave
a
comment
at
the
end
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
to
read.
Francis
said
adding
my
thanks
to
staff
Clarion
and
all
the
members
of
the
CAC
I
deeply
appreciate
the
expertise,
thoughtfulness
and
quality
of
listening
that
each
of
you
have
brought
and
continue
to
bring
to
this
process.
P
I've
learned
so
much
from
you
and
I
appreciate
each
of
the
revisions
you've
made
to
the
zoning
code
after
each
period
of
public
and
CAC
comments.
Thank
you
specifically
for
the
additional
setbacks
for
industrial
zones
adjacent
to
residential
lots
and
for
ensuring
that
each
development
will
provide
for
xeroscape
requirements
and
100
Years
of
water
availability.
I
see
how
this
code
is
a
huge
leap
forward
and
towards
the
Fulfillment
of
blueprint
Boise.
Thank
you
and
I
also
just
want
to
add
one
thing.
P
We
know
that
there
is,
as
we
release
a
new
draft
in
the
next
couple
weeks.
This
is
not
the
end
of
what
you'll
hear
from
us.
Probably
me
in
particular,
still
lots
of
Education
that
we'll
be
doing
around
this
as
well
and
using
Tim
as
much
as
possible
to
kind
of
spreading
the
message
of
the
zoning
code
through
going
through
the
process.
Anyways.
Thank
you
all
and
again,
we
have
tons
of
treats
and
stuff,
and
we
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
big.