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From YouTube: Citywide Advisory Committee Meeting #7 - 04/22/2021
Description
For Zoning Code Rewrite
A
Started
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
april
22nd
citywide
advisory
committee.
This
is
an
exciting
meeting.
First
of
all,
because
we
have
our
first
major
deliverable
that
we
get
to
talk
about
which
is
module
one
today,
which
is
going
to
talk
about
those
zoning
districts
and
allowed
uses
that
can
occur
throughout
our
city.
A
B
Well,
hi
everybody
thanks
for
having
me,
I
apologize
for
being
so
casual,
I'm
in
between
multiple
plantings,
so
it
just
came
from
julia
davis
park
where
we
planted
two
trees
with
a
lane
clegg
and
I'm
about
to
run
over
to
the
chief
eagle,
I
reserve,
over
in
the
east
end
to
plant
some
plants
with
members
of
the
shoshone
bannock
tribe,
because
it's
earth
day
and
biking
all
over
the
place
to
do
these
things.
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
all
of
you
have
put
in
so
far
and
anticipate.
B
I
want
you
know,
I'm
I'm
appreciating
the
anticipation
of
the
hard
work.
That's
ahead
of
you
and
you
know,
as
you
look
today
at
the
first
module
and
what's
come
back
and
you've
done
a
lot
of
work
already
hearing
from
the
public.
You
know.
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
I
appreciate
the
what
you're
doing
for
this
city
and
we
look
at
this.
B
B
You
know,
as
we
look
at
zoning
and
the
number
of
homes
that
we
need
and
where
we
ought
to
have
them
and
how
we
do
it
better.
You
know
we're
thinking
about
how
the
impact
of
bringing
people
together
in
a
built
environment,
impacts,
a
natural
environment
impacts.
The
way
in
which
we
move
around
and
get
from
home
to
work
and
to
school
and
everywhere
in
between,
and
so
as
as
you're
making
these
decisions.
B
It's
my
hope
that
you
know
the
decisions
that
we
make
will
be
able
to
help
us
achieve
a
vision
of
making
sure
that
people
can
move
more
readily
so
that
we
have
mobility
options
for
everyone,
whether
that
be
pathways
or
by
just
over
time,
development
that
creates
the
imperative
and
a
pathway
for
public
transit.
The
the
number
of
people
that
are
needed
for
public
transit
as
we
look
at
transit,
oriented
development
and,
of
course,
reimagined
open
spaces
in
size
and
form
and
habitat
throughout
our
community.
B
And
so
you
know
you
have
a
tough
job
of
you
know,
thinking
about
what's
to
come,
taking
in
and
what's
happening
now
and
then
charting
that
in
many
ways
from
a
map
perspective
thinking
about
it
from
a
map
perspective,
but
then
turning
it
into
words
and
zones,
and
we
turn
it
into
codes.
And
I'm
really
optimistic
and
great
actually
I'd
say.
A
B
A
So
keeping
in
mind
what
our
project
goals
are.
As
we
move
forward.
The
most
important
one
is
really
to
implement
our
largest
project
that
we
have
and
our
leading
and
guiding
vision,
which
is
our
blueprint
boise.
So
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
implementing
that
document
through
all
of
our
codes
throughout
the
city.
But
one
of
the
most
important
ones
is
the
zoning
code.
So
we'll
do
that.
A
Making
sure
that
we're
streamlining
our
review
process
so
that
all
of
our
decisions
are
predictable
from
no
matter
which
body
we're
in
front
of
and
making
sure
that
we're
improving
the
user
friendliness
of
the
ordinance
so
making
sure
that
it
is
structured
in
a
logical
way
and
that
we
have
graphics
and
tables
and
illustrations
that
actually
help
show.
What
we're
trying
to
achieve
throughout
the
document.
A
We
know
that
we
are
the
advisory
committee
that
we're
here
to
talk
and
really
act
as
a
sounding
board
for
all
of
our
ideas,
get
some
directions,
ideas
each
one
of
you
often
email
me
after
the
meeting
with
some
suggestions
or
materials
that
you
might
be
interested
in
so
each
time
you
might
see
developments
or
urban
agriculture
examples
and
how
urban
agricultural
can
be
implemented
in
the
code
that
all
comes
from
your
direction,
your
thoughtfulness
in
the
process.
So
so
thank
you.
A
We
are
hoping
that
you're
going
to
give
us
quality
feedback
that
we
can
pass
along,
so
that
our
mayor
and
our
planning
and
zoning
commission
can
make
valuable
recommendations
to
us
and
actually
implement
something
in
the
future.
So
we
will
be
leaning
toward
our
committees
and
our
commissions
and
our
councils
and
our
mayor
to
make
the
right
decision
once
we've,
given
them
all
the
information
that
they
need
to
reasonably
look
at
things
to
make
sure
we
can
implement
that
vision,
that
strategic
priorities
list
that
we
have
and
most
you
know,
most
importantly
accomplish
that
mission.
A
A
If
you
do
have
any
requests
and
would
like
to
speak,
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
on
you
we'll
try
not
to
interrupt
others,
and
all
of
you
guys
are
always
ready
to
learn.
So
we
don't
worry
about
that
and
we're
all
going
to
do
our
personal
best
as
we
start
the
day,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
to
give
us
a
start,
and
then
I
also
want
to
get
us
started
with
our
presentation
today.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
get
us
started
with
that.
A
A
Once
we
do,
that
brief
exercise,
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
review
the
draft
timeline
to
show
you
where
we're
at
in
the
process
and
how
it
fits
into
the
larger
picture.
Briefly
go
over.
Those
spring
survey
results
for
you
and
then
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
exciting
part,
which
is
the
presentation
and
discussion
of
module
one,
and
so
that's
going
to
look
at
our
zoning
districts.
What's
allowed
allowed
through
conditional
use
or
perhaps
prohibited
in
our
zones,
and
that
should
get
us
started.
A
So
I
am
going
to
go
ahead
and
put
up
the
topic
for
all
of
us
to
think
about,
and
then
deanna
is
going
to
help
us
with
the
jam
board
in
the
back,
and
so
the
question
is
to
each
one
of
you
and
it
is
what
is
the
one
topic
in
three
words
or
less
that
you
hope
that
you're
going
to
be
able
to
influence
through
this
zoning
code
rewrite
process.
So
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
don
did
you
have
a.
E
E
A
A
And
we're
going
to
ask
that
each
one
of
you
claim
these
as
well,
and
we,
I
believe
that
we
have
everybody
here
today,
with
the
exception
of
chris
vanderstow,
and
he
is
unable
to
join
us
today,
but
he
will
be
providing
information.
So
in
the
notes
that
you
receive
in
your
minutes,
you'll
get
to
hear
what
chris
is
thinking
as
well.
G
E
A
C
A
A
The
hope
is
is
that
as
we
move
forward
through
our
modules,
that
if
we
have
some
competing
thoughts,
that
we
can
actually
go
back
to
you
and
because
you
have
a
special
interest
or
you
have
a
specialty
or
knowledge
in
this
area,
we're
going
to
be
able
to
bounce
those
ideas
off
of
you
and
say:
hey
in
module.
Two
people
are
talking
about
a
reduction
in
parking.
Do
we
think
that
that
supports?
You
know
your
goals
of
affordable
housing
or
your
goals
towards
sustainability?
A
H
H
L
L
A
A
M
M
Well,
I
guess
maybe
affordable
housing
would
probably
be
one
thing.
I
don't
know
what
people
considerable
or
consider
affordable
housing,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
the
average
now
is
you
know
for
rent
or
whatever
is
around
13
to
1500
bucks
a
month
and
that's
not
affordable
for
your
average.
You
know
minimum
wage,
even
if
you
were
say
ten
dollars
an
hour.
That's
not
affordable
and
I
just
like
to
preserve
the
neighborhoods
that
are
existing
already,
where
people
have
put
their
time
and
love
into
their
home
and
doesn't
don't
want
change.
N
I
feel
this
every
day
you
know
I
love
my
neighborhood
and
our
neighborhood
commercial
and
being
able
to
walk
and
ride
my
bike
to
work
personally,
but
then,
when
I
show
up
at
work
at
rocky
mountain
development,
it's
really
hard
to
replicate
those
environments
today
in
commercial
development
profitably.
So
I
think,
there's
a
balance
there.
N
I
think
the
the
free
market
hasn't
delivered
to
us
a
lot
of
these
projects
that
we're
talking
about,
and
it's
a
reason
for
that
is
because
they're
not
as
profitable
as
the
strip
retail
and
so
forth
that
you
see
out
there
today.
So
I
think
there
is
a
good
balance
to
find
tempering
what
is
the
most
profitable
thing
to
build
and
what's
the
most
livable
community
to
build
and
trying
to
find
a
good
balance
between
those
two.
O
O
G
Hello,
I
put
in
protect
foothills
and
clear
site
design
standards
protect
foothills.
I
just
I
know,
there's
some
subdivisions
and
plots
that
are
grandfathered
in
and
it
bums
me
out
to
see
those
projects
progressing,
but
I
get
it
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
do
whatever
we
can
to
protect
the
foothills
from
further
development.
I've
seen
other
communities,
you
can
look
at
salt
lake
city,
for
example,
and
I
just
don't
want
to
see
that
happen
to
our
foothills
and
then
just
that
we
have
good,
clear
site
design
standards.
A
J
It
will
surprise
no
one
that
I
didn't
put
a
sticky
note
up
there,
because
I
can't
use
three
words
as
a
lawyer,
I
if
I
had
to
pick
one
I'd,
say,
encourage
sustainable
development
and
you
know
equitable
development.
Those
are
the
that's
the
most
important
just
I
mean
you
piggyback
on
what
just
said
beyond
you
know
wanting
to
preserve
the
foothills
I
I
do
have
some
concern
about.
You
know
growing
into
areas
that
are
unsustainable,
whether
that's
sprawl
or
that's,
into
the
whoopi,
or
you
know
that
that
type
of
development
that.
M
J
C
P
So
I
hope
that
we
can
influence
that
through
this
work
and
also
by
virtue
in
ways
that
increase
a
lot
of
the
things
on
this
on
this
board:
housing,
affordability,
protection
of
open
space,
you
name
it
so
I
agree
with
a
lot
that's
on
here
and
I
think
we
can
accomplish
a
lot
of
those
and
have
predictability.
At
the
same
time,.
Q
R
R
You
know
so,
but
yeah
those
you
know,
and
especially
in
in
existing
neighborhoods
or
you
know
where
there's
new
developments
or
in-field
developments
in
existing
neighborhoods
to
be
able
to
also
include
some
green
space
because
there's
you
know,
sections
of
the
city
that
we
just
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
parks
or
or
access
to
that.
So
to
keep
that
in
mind,
and
then
also
you
know,
I'm
all
about
being
able
to
walk
or
bike
to.
R
S
I
put
down
clear
and
straightforward
zoning
ordinances
because
I
think
one
of
the
hopes
is
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
really
great
and
clear
guideline
for
development
of
our
neighborhoods
and
and
our
and
our
other
commercial
areas
and
things
yeah.
I
constantly
get
people
coming
to
me
saying
I
have
a
lot
and
I
want
to
get
it
rezoned.
I
want
to
do
this
or
that
I
hope
we're
going
to
not
have
that
we're
going
to
have
really
clear
and
it's
going
to
be.
S
You
know
helpful
and
good
stuff,
and
I
hope
we
have
good
transitions.
I
think
between
the
zones,
which
you
know,
that's
obviously
your
zoning
maps
and
stuff
and
that's
not
our
zone
rewrite,
but
that's
one
of
those
things
that
you
know
hey
I'm
right
on
the
edge
of
this.
Maybe
I
can
get
it
changed
and
I
hope
that
we
can
consider
how
that
should
look
and
how
how
to
respect
those
boundaries
and
not
have
things
creep
into
one
area
or
another.
S
You
know
to
the
detriment
of
those
existing
locations,
and
I
guess
I'm
with
brad
too
on.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
our
people
who
have
invested
in
our
existing
communities
that
those
are
are
maintained
and
that
that
we
create
and
help
have
new
communities
that
that
are
awesome
and
that
have
great
and
unique
character
as
well.
C
F
It
was
muted,
thank
you.
Mine
was
more
homes
for
everyone.
I'm
really
passionate
about
kind
of
that
pillar
among
our
goals
that
there's
a
home
for
everyone
in
boise,
whether
people
that
have
lived
here
a
long
time
or
wish
to
become
our
new
neighbor.
There's
many
great
visions
and
goals
outlined
here,
but
many
of
them,
you
know,
have
a
direct
trade-off
with
having
more
homes
for
people
that
want
to
live
in
one.
H
T
U
This
really
varies
across
the
city.
A
lot
of
people
don't
really
feel
like
they
have
any
voice
or
have
any
power
over
those
decisions.
So
a
lot
of
people
don't
participate
to
begin
with,
so
I
think
we
need
to
start
by
making
sure
that
we
do
everything
to
encourage
early
and
meaningful
input
from
the
public
in
our
in
our
significant
decisions.
W
W
A
A
So
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
enjoys
amenities
or
open
space,
especially
in
our
urban
areas,
making
sure
that
we
are
growing
properly
and
reducing
that
sprawl
so
that
we
can
afford
our
infrastructure,
making
sure
that
we
have
everything,
that's
clear
and
concise
so
that
it's
understandable
to
each
and
every
person
making
sure
that
we
have
everything
that
all
of
the
standards
that
we
need
to
protect
our
river
or
our
foothills.
Those
type
of
things
that
are
important
to
us.
A
So
I'm
going
to
ask
each
one
of
you
to
kind
of
put
on
that
lens
as
you
go
through
module
one
today
with
us
and
then,
if
you
go
through
it
again,
put
that
lens
on
and
make
sure
is
this
going
to
be
a
sustainable
option?
Is
this
going
to
support
transit
for
long
term?
Is
this
going
to
promote
those
connections
that
we
want
to
get
people
from
particular
areas
to
recreational
areas?
To
their
work
to
their
home,
do
we
get
the
homes
that
we
are
needing
based
on
our
growth,
those
types
of
things?
A
It's
a
careful
stitch
that
puts
it
all
together
into
that
little
urban
quilt
that
we
have
so
so.
Thank
you
and
then
know
that
I'll
be
calling
on
you
or
maybe
reaching
out
in
the
future
too,
because
I
know
that
you
have
a
special
interest
or
you
want
to
have
this
special
influence
as
we
move
forward.
A
A
All
right,
it
is
3
46
and
we're
back
felt
really
nice
to
get
a
big
stretch
in
there
before
our
last
session.
So
we
are
going
to
turn
it
over
to
wendy
allistead.
You
guys
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
her
quite
yet.
She
is
operating
in
the
background
and
helping
us
on
a
day-to-day
basis,
and
she
kind
of
took
the
lead
on
the
survey
and
so
she's
going
to
present
that
information
to
you
and
hopefully
be
able
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
as
part
of
that.
I
I
As
you
can
see,
based
on
the
timeline
we
are
going
into
our
next
big
public
input
phase
the
month
of
may,
we
are
going
to
be
switching
gears
and
doing
a
lot
of
public
outreach
around
module
one
before
we
jump
into
that.
I
want
to
take
a
few
minutes
and
it
will
only
be
a
few
minutes
to
talk
about
the
survey
results
we
got
from
this
spring.
I
The
survey
that
we
ran
back
in
november
and
december.
We
heard
quite
a
bit
of
input
both
from
yourselves
as
well
as
from
the
rest
of
the
city,
that
the
survey
was
a
bit
more
complex
than
most
people
could
handle
or
were
comfortable
responding
on.
So,
as
you
know,
the
survey
that
we
ran
during
the
month
of
march
was
significantly
shorter.
We
also
changed
our
method.
We
sent
out
14
000
postcards
across
the
city.
We
we
took
manual
postcards.
I
We
took
surveys,
we
took
scrolled
comments
on
the
postcards,
so
I
want
to
touch
on
a
few
highlights
and
then,
if
there
are
any
questions
on
the
detail
report
we
sent
out,
I
can
handle
those
as
well.
We
got
close
to
2000
responses
back.
So
that's
up
quite
a
bit
from
our
first
survey,
which
we
had
around
800
responses.
We
were
thrilled
with
the
first
survey.
We
were
equally
thrilled
with
the
second
survey
so
of
the
2
000
people
that
responded
back
to
us.
I
The
vast
majority,
as
you
can
see
by
this
chart,
were
interested
in
more
single-family
homes.
Now
that
did
not
surprise
us,
but
what
did
surprise
us
is
that
we
had
quite
a
few
people.
They
were
interested
in
many
other
types
of
houses,
so
what
we
were
looking
for
is
a
sense
of
where
the
community's
preferences
on
housing
diversity,
as
you
can
see
from
the
the
few
responses
the
few
increases.
I
These
would
be
people
that
just
want
single-family
homes
or
adus
or
duplexes
there's
around
39
percent
of
our
respondents
felt
that
way,
but
if
you
add
to
the
22
percent
that
wanted
to
see
moderate
increases-
and
these
would
be
things
like
add-
a
townhouse-
add
cottage
courts-
how
about
some
live
work
units?
So
if
you
look
at
the
overall
breakdown
across
our
respondents,
around
60
percent
of
our
city
is
interested
in
more
housing
diversity.
I
That
is
few
to
moderate,
so
more
progressive
change,
rather
than
dramatic
change.
However,
we
still
had
40
percent
of
our
respondents
that
were
interested
in
significant
or
major
changes
in
housing.
Variety-
andrea-
if
you
could
take
that
one
step
further
for
me,
please
great
in
addition
to
housing
type.
We
asked
about
activities,
so
we
asked
people
to
specify
which
type
of
activities
that
they
would
like
to
see
in
their
neighborhoods
on
a
busy
street
or
downtown.
We
gave
them
three
options
and
we
gave
them
multiple
different
types
of
activities
to
choose
from
these
activities.
I
In
the
background,
we
grouped
by
medium
intensity,
small
scale,
intensity
or
larger
commercial
intensity
and,
as
you
can
see,
our
the
our
community
is
interested
in
not
only
gathering
places,
neighborhood
coffee
shops,
bakeries,
eateries,
but
also
some
of
our
more
traditional
roots
around
urban
farming,
our
local
produce
and
farmers,
markets,
etc.
Small
child
care
was
something
that
people
were
also
deeply
interested
in,
as
you
stepped
outside
of
the
neighborhoods
to
a
busy
street
nearby,
and
we
did
not
ask
people
to
classify
whether
that
street
was
a
connector
or
an
arterial.
I
I
I
All
of
these
were
things
that
we
expected
people
to
prefer
in
downtown
areas,
and
indeed
they
did
not
surprise
us
any
questions
or
comments
for
me
before
don
takes
us
into
module.
One
there's
quite
a
bit
of
detail
in
the
attached
survey
report
that
came
out
for
you
before
the
meeting
and,
of
course,
we're
always
available
for
questions
after.
I
So
esther
asks
wondering
what
the
determining
factor
for
the
neighborhoods
receiving
the
mailer
great
question
esther.
We
went
through
this
survey
of
the
census
tract
report
that
was
done
in
last
spring
and
we
chose
all
of
the
tier
one
neighborhood.
So
the
predominance
of
those
neighborhoods
were
in
the
central
bench
west
bench
and
then
the
veterans
park
neighborhood,
which
is
partially
north
end
east
end
planning
area
partially
northwest.
I
A
D
D
D
That's
a
good
result
in
terms
of
numbers,
and
I
guarantee
you
at
the
end
of
this
process.
Somebody
will
say:
do
you
realize
that's
only
five
percent?
It's
only
four
percent,
I'm
not
making
fun,
but
the
truth
is
when
you
get
thousands
of
responses
to
zoning
questions,
you've
got
their
attention
and
we
can
repeat
this
and
we
will
have
more
rounds
as
we
go
down
the
road,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
but
he's
on
the
same
page.
This
is
not.
D
This
is
a
good
start
at
trying
to
pull
what
citizens
of
boise
want
to
see.
It's
a
very
good
start.
So
gabby.
When
I
look
at
the
screen,
I
see
the
presenter
view
rather
than
the
publisher.
Can
you
switch
the
view
on
me,
so
I
can
see
the
big
the
other
one?
Yes.
Well
there
we
go
so
we're
going
to
walk
through
module
one.
D
Obviously,
if
you
have
only
had
it
a
little
while
the
intent
of
today
is
not
to
get
your
final
thoughts
on
it,
it's
simply
to
orient
you
to
it
and
walk
you
through
it
and
the
logic
of
it
and
why
we
made
some
key
decisions
in
doing
this.
At
the
end
of
this,
we
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
we'll
leave
plenty
of
time
for
discussion
plenty
of
time
for
people
to
ask
not
just
questions
about
what
we've
presented
but
open-ended
questions.
D
This
slide
just
shows
the
basic
structure
of
the
ordinance,
because
I
want
to
remind
you
of
it:
you'd
seen
it
in
a
more
detailed
version
and
of
course,
you
can
see
it
in
the
front
of
your
module,
1.
general
general
provisions.
I
don't
want
to
talk
about
what
you
have,
in
your
hand,
is
the
first
public
cut
of
1102
zone
districts
and
1103
use
regulations,
which
is
what
we
had
the
first
two
cac
substantive
meetings
on
earlier
this
spring,
and
I
just
want
to
remind
you
of
the
logic
of
this,
which
is
blueprint.
D
Boise
is
about
the
kinds
of
places
you
want
to
have
that's
where
you
start
the
zone.
What
kinds
of
places
would
would
implement
that
vision?
It
doesn't
tell
you
the
whole
story,
but
it
tells
you
the
character
and
it
tells
you
the
fundamental
issues
of
how
dense,
how
not
dense,
how
mixed
or
how
not
mixed
use
regulations
are
1103
and
that's
the
question
of
do
it.
Can
I
do
it
in
this
zone
district
and
if
so,
whose
permission
do
I
need
and
what
things
are,
what
conditions
attached
to
it?
D
But
as
you
move
forward
with
development
or
redevelopment
in
this
district,
you
need
to
organize
it
in
the
following
way
to
make
the
kinds
of
urban
forms
that
blueprint
boise
asks
for,
and
similarly
we
can
explain
how
in
the
residential
districts,
this
is
heavily
focused
on
form
I'll.
Do
that
later,
in
the
conversation
today,
so
form
is
in
parts
of
1102
living
in
1103
as
well,
because
the
you
specific
standards
do
that
more
of
it
will
be
in
1104
when
we
get
into
the
next
module.
D
Two
there's
a
lot
more
about
the
form
of
development,
but
why
did
we
do
use
before
we
did
that?
And
the
answer
is
because
think
about
the
business
of
governing
a
city
part
of
the
time,
people
walk
in
and
say
I
bought
this
property
and
I
want
to
redevelop
it.
I
bought
this
property
and
I
want
to
build
a
new
building
or
revise
an
old
building
to
create
affordable
housing
or
commercial.
D
Much
more
often,
the
person
walking
in
the
door
is
saying.
I
bought
this
property
and
I
want
to
change
the
use
of
the
current
building.
I
want
to
retrofit
it.
I
want
to
do
something
different
with
something
that
was
built
in
1930
or
40,
or
50
or
16.,
and
if
you
focus
only
on
form,
you
you're
missing
this
because
they're
not
changing
the
form
of
the
building.
The
building
is
what
the
building
is.
D
They
didn't
buy
it
to
tear
it
down,
they
didn't
buy
it
to
expand
it,
they
bought
it
to
put
it
to
a
new
use,
which
is
what
healthy
cities
do
over
time.
So
you
need
to
address
this
because
very
often,
I
would
venture
to
say
a
majority
of
the
time
people
come
in
and
file
an
application
with
the
city.
It
is
not
to
build
a
new
building
which
would
trigger
okay,
then
you've
got
some
building
form
standards.
You've
got
to
deal
with.
D
The
majority
of
the
time
is,
I
want
to
do
x
and
the
answer
to
their
question
is
yes,
no
or
maybe
subject
to
these
provisions,
and
so
mixed
use,
affordable,
housing,
all
the
values.
You've
just
talked
about
predictability
come
to
roost.
Yes,
in
the
form
and
development
design
standards,
they
come
to
roost
much
more
often
in
can
I
do
it
and
under
what
conditions
can
I
do
it
in
this
neighborhood?
So
we
want
to
get
into
that
discussion.
D
Well,
it's
going
to
be
possible
in
the
following
districts
that
you've
got
to
decide
that,
or
at
least
have
a
proposal
on
the
table
before
you
can
talk
about
landscaping.
How
much
landscaping
is
needed?
Well
kind
of
depends
on
where
it
is
how
much
parking
is
needed?
Well
kind
of
depends
on
where
we're
going
to
allow
it,
and
then
five
administration
and
procedures
is
the
one
we
tackle
last,
because
the
more
we
can
settle
predictability
in
can
I
do
it
under
what
conditions?
D
How
how
good
is
good
enough
for
boise
how
inclusive,
how
well
designed
what
forms
the
more
we
can
get
a
good
consensus
on
that,
the
more
we
can
say
if
those
are
the
rules
and
those
are
the
incentives
how
efficient
and
predictable
could
we
make
the
approval
process?
Do
we
need
more
neighborhood
meetings
up
front?
Do
we
need
fewer
hearings
down
the
road
in
order
to
reduce
unpredictability?
D
That's
why
a
lot
this
this
process
is
laid
out
in
this
role,
and
you
have
in
front
of
you
now
the
foundation
and
the
first
floor
of
a
building
that
is
going
to
be
built
on
top
of
that,
including
use
and
development
standards
now
you'll
see.
1107
is
approved
special
district
plans.
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute.
Excuse
me
specific
district
plans.
Those
are
not
changing.
They
are
deals
that
have
been
cut
for
specific
areas
of
the
city.
D
We
can
talk
about
that,
but
that's
why
it's
at
the
end,
because
it's
at
the
end
now,
if
we
put
it
in
the
middle
of
this
flow
from
11
2,
3
4
5,
it
kind
of
distracts
from
the
answers
you're
trying
to
find.
Whereas
if
you
live
in
those
areas,
the
barber
valley
other
places,
you
know
you
can
look
in
a
little
1107
and
that's
a
deal
that
the
city
made
that
answers
those
questions
so
gabby
next
slide.
D
Okay,
I
want
to
call
your
attention
to
a
couple
of
things
in
the
zone
districts
and
then
turn
it
over
to
gabby.
To
talk
about
uses
so
on.
The
left
is
what
you
got
now
in
the
middle
is
what
we
presented
in
march
in
terms
of
the
zone
district
menu.
There
have
been
changes,
I'd
like
to
call
your
attention
to
two
of
them.
In
march,
you
saw
splitting
of
your
current
a1
district,
which
is
called
open
space,
but
it's
really
a
residential
district
to
protect
low
density
development.
D
We
said:
r1s
is
used
to
protect
sensitive
lands
like
hillsides
and
r1l
was
basically
a
one-acre
zone,
there's
not
much
land
in
r1l.
Upon
reflection,
we
have
merged
that
in
this
proposal
into
a
single
r1l
large
lot
residential,
which
is
intended
for
things
like
hillsides.
We
have
not
settled
on
lot
size.
We
have
not
that
that's
module
two,
but
conceptually
it's
for
protecting
sensitive
areas
with
very
low
density
development.
D
D
In
march,
you
saw
a
low
density
residential
mix
proposed
as
a
kind
of
a
very
flexible
district
built
on
your
current
rm,
which
is
very
little
used
to
date.
We
said
why
don't
we
build
on
that
with
a
much
wider
range
of
housing
availability?
Upon
reflection,
we
said:
well,
that's
kind
of
what
r2
could
be
in
there
too,
and
so
those
are
blended
in
this
current
draft.
If
you
look
at
the
right
hand,
column
that
leaves
us
with
five
residential
districts.
D
Okay,
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
same
thing
left
hand,
column
in
the
mixed
use
and
other
districts
what
we
presented
in
march
and
what
we're
doing
in
in
this
draft,
we
carried
forward
a
fairview
design,
overlay
district,
which
affects
very
little
land
in
march,
but
upon
reflection,
it
was
intended
to
be
an
interim
zone
district
which,
where
the
design
controls
were
intended
to
be
embedded
in
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
when
we
rewrite
it.
So
we
are
at
this
point
suggesting
that
it
not
be
carried
over
as
a
separate
overlay
district.
D
By
the
time
this
is
approved,
you
will
have
seen
the
design
standards
and
we'll
see
if
you
agree
that
we've
been
able
to
carry
over
the
intent
of
that
overlay
to
places
like
fairview
and
maybe
other
places
that
are
like
fairview
in
the
city,
so
that
one
has
gone
away.
And
finally,
in
march
we
said,
the
boise
river
overlay
system
really
included
the
floodplain
protections,
they're
they're
not
entangled,
but
they
overlap
in
your
current
regulations.
Upon
reflection,
we
had
comments
within
the
city
saying
we
really
need
to
treat
them
differently.
There
is.
D
There
are
flood
protection
overlays,
which
are
closely
aligned
with
fema
standards
and
there's
boise
river
system
overlay,
which
goes
way
beyond
that,
and
we
need
to
distinguish
in
our
minds
and
public
minds,
even
though
they
both
deal
with
areas
near
rivers.
They
are
different
things
and
bro
is
your
own
regulations.
Fpo
is
largely
fema
related
regulations,
and
so
they
have
been
split
apart
next
slide.
D
This
is
just
reminding
you
that
harris
ranch,
barber
valley
and
syringa
valley
are
not
being
changed
at
this
point.
We
have
not
been
asked
to
change
those
let's
go
ahead
and
at
the
next
one,
so
I'm
going
to
talk.
This
is
the
layout
of
each
district.
Sometimes
they
don't
wind
up
on
two
pages.
But
if
you
looked
at
this
and
said
gee,
you
know
I
thought
we
were
going
to
be
graphically
rich.
This
is
cute,
but
it's
not
filled
in
and
it's
not
graphically
rich
there's,
two
reasons.
D
On
the
right
hand:
side
is
an
axonometric
drawing
and
a
table
below
it.
That's
not
filled
in
we'll
fill
it
in
in
module
two
in
module.
Two,
we
sort
out
building
heights
step,
downs
and
transition
areas,
intensity
density,
working
from
what
you
have
now
and
trying
to
make
it
work
in
these
consolidated
zone
districts.
We
just
don't
know
the
answers
to
those
questions
we
will
in
a
few
months
and
when
you
see
module
two,
we
will
fill
these
tables
in
so
that
they
now
are
consistent
with
what
comes
up
with
that
work.
D
On
the
left
hand,
side,
the
question
is:
what
kind
of
a
drawing
you
want
to
illustrate
the
character
of
this
area.
We
have
prepared
drawings.
We
were
not
satisfied
that
they
were
accurate,
and
so
by
that,
when
we
released
module
two
and
and
the
issue,
the
reason
was
we
didn't
want
to
mislead
people.
That's
not
regulatory!
That's
a
picture
to
create.
In
your
mind,
what
kind
of
a
place
is
this
a
picture
of
intensity,
spread-outedness,
building
height?
D
We
actually
can't
get
our
arms
around
that
until
we
do
module
two
so
the
table,
it
depends
on
module
two
and
then
accurate
conceptual
drawing
to
plant
a
seed.
In
the
public's
mind,
aha,
okay,
I
get
it
it's
something
like
a
neighborhood
that
looks
like
this
needs
to
wait
until
module
two.
When
we
get
there,
we
will
fill
in
those
drawings,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
gabby
to
walk
through
the
youth,
the
logic
not
each
use,
but
the
logic
behind
our
approach
to
uses,
and
I
will
plant
this
one
seed.
D
In
your
mind,
zoning
was
designed
to
exclude
that's
the
dna
of
zoning.
That's
why
it
was
created
to
say:
that's,
not
okay.
Here
your
mayor
and
blueprint
boise
have
said
we're
aiming
at
a
city
for
everyone,
so
we're
kind
of
in
a
struggle
here.
We
are
jointly
all
of
us
together
in
a
struggle
of
saying.
D
D
D
K
So
fundamentally,
the
use
regulations
consist
of
three
elements
and
the
first
is
the
use
itself.
So
the
definitions
of
what
is
it
so
in
this
example,
we
used
bed
and
breakfast
and
you
could
read
the
definition
there
and
you
can
see
that
the
number
of
guests
allowed
is
in
the
description,
and
so
the
definition
only
includes
size
as
necessary
to
distinguish
it
from
other
defined
uses
like
the
boarding
or
rooming
house
mentioned
at
the
bottom
of
that
definition.
K
K
So
it's
still
going
to
go
through
some
sort
of
process.
It
just
won't
be
as
significant
of
a
process
as
say
a
conditional
use
and
in
some
cases
in
the
use
table,
you'll
notice
that
it
depends
it
could
be
allowed
or
conditional
depending
on
the
conditions.
And
so
that's
when
you'll
see
the
slash
a
a
slash
c
in
the
table
and
that's
when
you'll
go
to
the?
K
K
So
some
examples
of
this
from
the
code
are
a
use.
That's
located
within
300
feet
of
a
residential
zoning
district
may
require
a
conditional
use
permit,
based
on
its
impacts
to
a
residential
neighborhood.
If
it's
a
restaurant
or
more
commercial
use,
they
could
also
involve
some
extra
landscaping
or
buffering
standards.
That's
that
second
one
and
then
this
third
is
this-
is
one
zone
specific,
has
a
u-specific
standard
and
it's
saying
that
that
use
can
only
be
located
on
the
ground
floor
of
a
building
containing
residential
primary
uses.
K
So
the
a
means
it's
an
allowed
use?
The
c
means
it's
conditional.
Those
asterisks
implied
that
there
are
you
specific
standards
which
are
found
in
the
rightmost
column
and
for
the
purpose
of
this
public
draft.
Eventually
there
won't
be
all
these
colors
in
the
use
table
within
the
actual
body
of
the
table,
but
for
the
purpose
of
this
draft
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
tells
a
story
of
where
this
use
table
came
from
and
the
sort
of
changes
that
have
been
made
and
make
that
clear.
K
That
could
mean
that
a
previously
conditional
use
is
now
an
allowed
use,
and
in
that
case
it
likely
has
new
you
specific
standards
and
those
are
indicated
with
a
green
highlight
in
that
rightmost
column.
That
means
that
those
are
new.
You
specific
standards
and
you'll
notice
that
there
are
a
lot
of
those,
and
that
was
part
of
our
goal,
of
reducing
the
amount
of
conditional
uses
that
were
currently
in
your
current
use
table
and
then
finally,
the
the
red
highlight
would
actually
mean
that
it's
been
made
more
restricted.
K
So
maybe
it
was
allowed
by
conditional
use
in
one
of
the
zoning
districts,
and
you
know
we
actually
thought
about
it
and
said
you
know,
that's
that
might
not
be
appropriate
there.
So
now
it's
prohibited
and
the
same
word
if
it
was
allowed
by
right.
Maybe
we
thought
you
know
it
should
be
allowed
by
conditional
use
with
you
specific
standards.
Instead.
K
So
then,
finally,
the
the
you
specific
standards
themselves,
so
those
are
those
follow.
The
table
of
allowed
uses
and
they're
organized
to
follow
the
same
order
that
the
use
table
follows
so
those
orange
bars
in
the
use
table.
That's
the
categories
of
these
specific
standards
to
make
it
very
clear
and
user
friendly.
K
Like
I
said,
we
added
a
lot
of
new
use,
specific
standards
to
reduce
conditional
use
permits,
and
then
we
also
wanted
to
point
out
that
sometimes
uses
have
multiple
u-specific
standards
and
that's
when
you'll
see
two
different
sections
cited
in
the
u-specific
standard
column
and
that's
things
like
temporary
and
accessories
is
where
all
temporary
uses
have
basic
standards
that
they
have
to
follow,
regardless
of
the
nature
of
the
activity,
but
then
based
on
the
nature
of
the
activity,
they
might
have
additional
standards.
So
those
are
the
the
columns
that
have
two.
D
D
Do
we
need
to
say
it's
not
permitted
here
or
should
we
instead
say
it's
fine
to
have
it
here,
but
the
conditions
you're
right,
we're
allowing
them
too
big.
They
should
be
smaller
or
they
shouldn't
be
allowed
within
300
feet
of
a
residential
district.
It's
a
condition!
It's
is
what
what
is
wrong
here.
Do
we
need
to
say
no
or
do
we
have
to
have
a
condition
that
says
that
use
is
actually
fine
in
that
zone
district,
but
there's
some
adjacency
problems
or
impact
problems.
D
We
need
to
address
to
the
uss
for
the
use,
specific
standards
or
is
the
issue.
We
really
do
need
to
revise
the
definition.
We
need
to
define
it
in
a
different
way
by
allowing
those
three
things
to
be
done.
You
can
avoid
the
proliferation
of
kind
of
micromanaged
uses.
That
is
in
your
current
code
and
in
most
older
codes
and
remember
the
more
you
micro
manage
uses
the
more
you
are
opening
opportunities
to
say
no,
not
here
and
that's
a
that's
an
issue
so
that
that
is
something
we
would
like
to
avoid.
D
A
D
Okay,
so
I
will
say
one
more
thing:
we
do
the
question
here,
I'm
sorry,
thank
you.
We
won't
fall
behind
schedule
here.
The
red
and
green,
highlighting
that
gabby
explained
very
well
is
because
we
have
collapsed.
Both
the
columns
and
the
rows
of
this
table.
We
could
have
written
every
single
change
to
every
single
use
to
every
single
zone
district
and
it
would
drive
you
crazy.
D
We
encourage
you
when
you
review
this,
to
look
at
it
and
say:
do
I
agree
or
disagree
that
this
use
should
be
allowed
in
this
district
under
those
conditions?
It's
a
much
more
productive
use
of
your
time
than
to
trace
the
breadcrumbs
back
to
each
individual
name
of
an
obsolete
use
in
each
individual
use.
District.
Excuse
me
district,
which
no
longer
exists,
because
it's
been
con
consolidated
into
another
one.
D
You
can
do
it,
I'm
sure
it
can
be
done
and
if
you
want
to
do
it
go
ahead,
but
a
more
productive
use
of
time
is
to
say
yeah.
If
I
disagree
with
the
districts,
I
could
say
that
if
I
even
if
I
do
agree
with
this
district,
can
I
if
I
agree
with
the
districts,
do
I
disagree
with
the
allowance
of
it
here
under
these
conditions
and
that
definition,
that's
a
much
more
productive
use
of
time.
D
W
Yes,
thanks:
you
just
went
over
quickly
on
what
we
need
to
look
at,
I'm
sure
that
we're
not
going
to
get
it
all
in
here
in
the
next
less
than
an
hour.
So
I
was
wondering
how
well,
if
it's
you
or
andrew
that
will
structure
the
survey
as
to
how
we
could
respond.
Will
it
be
section
by
section,
so
we
could
address
those
questions
that
you
just
presented.
D
A
Well,
we'll
we
will
go
ahead
and
send
you
a
follow-up
survey,
just
like
we've
done
for
other
ones
that
allow
you
to
provide
additional
comments
above
and
beyond
what
you
can
provide
today.
If
you
just
note
on
there,
which
section
you
might
be
referring
to
that'll,
give
us
a
good
start,
a
page
number,
just
some
type
of
indicator
of
hey
on
page
27.
You
allowed
drive
through
restaurants.
A
I
don't
think
that
that
might
be
appropriate
on
our
major
transit
corridors.
So
just
go
ahead
and
give
us
a
little
note,
but
we'll
make
sure
that
we
give
you
plenty
of
space
and
then,
as
always,
you
don't
need
to
stick
to
the
survey.
We'd
love
you
to
get
as
much
information
that
way.
But
if
you
come
up
with
a
thought,
that's
later
go
ahead
and
provide
us
that
comment
later.
It's
okay
just
go
ahead
and
email.
It
and
I'll
make
sure
that
the
entire
group
receives
that
response.
D
I
would
say
from
my
perspective
that
that
answers
the
survey
question.
All
of
you
are
welcome
to
send
the
draft
back
with
just
sticky
notes
on
it.
Excuse
me
with
pdf,
sticky,
notes
on
it
or
comment
boxes
on
it
or
scrawled,
and
it
can
be
scanned.
The
survey
will
be
very
helpful,
but
I
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
The
door
is
open
if
you
want
to
send
a
49-page
email
about
everything.
D
If,
if,
if
a
comment
is
coming
back
from,
you
say,
you
know
what
we
are
going
to
change
module
one.
We
understand
that,
but
you
can't
perfect
each
module
before
you
move
on
this
is
the
foundation
we're
going
to
be
built
on?
If
you
don't
comment
now,
because
you
think
it's
fine
and
two
months
from
now,
somebody
raises
a
question
and
you
say
that's
a
very
good
point.
I
want
to
weigh
in
on
that
and
say
upon
reflection,
that's
not
fine.
D
The
door
will
still
be
open.
The
door
never
shuts
until
city
council
votes
on
this
stuff,
so
earlier
is
better
any
way
you
want
to
do
it.
It's
fine
with
us
because
we'll
read
them
all,
but
but
I
I
want
to
be
clear:
it's
not
as
if
you
got
to
talk
today,
it's
not
as
if
you
have
to
talk
within
a
month.
You
can
comment
when
you
can
earlier
is
better
because
some
of
you
will
raise
great
points.
D
We'll
say
you
know
what
our
mistake
you're
right,
and
so
we
that
we
can
roll
that
into
our
thinking
going
ahead.
Do
any
of
you
have
questions
about
the
overall
structure
I'm
going
to
later.
My
next
question
is
going
to
be
more
detailed
about
the
substance
to
the
degree
you've
even
be
able
to
wander
around
in
the
draft
so
far.
Well,
there
are
questions
about
the
structure
so
far
or
why
we're
doing
it?
This
way.
D
Q
D
The
overall
structure
is
most
newer
codes
organize
themselves
into
five
or
six
or
seven
or
eight
chapters.
It's
very
con.
The
structure
is
very
common
within
the
structure.
The
content
varies
completely
based
on
what
the
community
wants
to
do.
The
difference
thing
here
is
your
specific
plan
districts
at
the
end,
those
are
like
macro
planned
unit
developments
and
you
you
codify
them.
D
A
lot
of
places
would
just
call
them
puds
and
not
put
them
in
the
code
and
say:
if
you
live
there
go
call
planning
and
say
and
see
what
the
content
of
your
pud
is:
you've
codified
them.
I
think
people
expect
that
to
be
codified,
so
that
is
unique
to
boise
that
we
all
often
don't
see
in
a
code
the
rest
of
it.
We
have
offered
different
structures
to
different
communities
over
time.
I
would
say
almost
all
of
them
opt
for
some
version
of
this.
D
That
is
very
similar
to
this,
and
in
all
honesty,
I've
had
a
couple
of
them
that
didn't
come
back
later
and
say
you
were
right.
We
should
have
done
it
that
way,
so
all
right.
So
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
get
into
here
into
the
code,
do
you
have
initial
comments
on
the
substance,
the
districts
themselves,
the
things
that
we
changed
based
on
comments
we
got
earlier
in
terms
of
districts
and
consolidations,
or
your
preliminary
look
at
the
use
table
or
use
specific
standards
or
definitions?
Enough
said.
D
A
A
In
that
perspective
and
look
at
it
in
that
regard,
you
know:
are
we
really
balancing
livability
and
prosperity
so
think
about
you
know
having
those
types
of
businesses
and
how
they
can
contribute
to
the
neighborhood,
rather
than
detract
so
just
put
those
lenses
on
that?
We
talked
about
earlier
and
and
kind
of
just
think
things
through,
and
is
this
code
really
headed
in
the
right
direction
and
looks.
F
A
D
I'm
going
to
read
it
right,
I'm
reading
it
right
now,
yeah,
let's!
If,
if
you
guys
have
it,
you
can
open
it
up.
Otherwise,
I
will
summarize
it
for
those
of
you
who
may
be
calling
it
or
the
public
or
others
who
not
sure
the
pud
is
listed
in
110204
as
a
as
a
special
purpose.
Zoning
district
you
currently
handle
this
as
a
vehicle.
D
A
pud
is
currently
handled
as
kind
of
development
flexibility
and
what
we've
said
in
our
commentary
is
most
codes
that
people
that
that
review
these
try
to
update
their
codes
to
implement
a
plan.
Try
not
to
do
everything
through
a
pud.
They
leave
it
for
larger
and
more
complex
projects
that
deviate
significantly
from
underlying
zoning
district
standards.
So,
for
example,
in
many
communities,
barber
valley
would
be
a
pud.
That's
that's
the
kind
of
negotiated,
complicated,
large-scale
thing.
D
That's
going
to
happen
over
time
that
city
council
needs
to
cut
a
one-off
deal
on
most
places
would
say,
save
it
for
really
complicated
infill
projects
and
for
larger,
complex
projects.
The
things
that
we
understand
are
currently
approved
through
the
pud
process
are
often
handled
through
design
alternative
process.
For
example,
when
we
get
into
the
module
2
and
module
3,
we
will
talk
to
you
about
it
in
these
types
of
meetings,
as
we
propose
things,
but
most
communities
want
to
say:
listen,
there
is
leeway
in.
We
want
predictable
standards
for
parking.
D
We
want
predictable
standards
for
heights
and
step
downs
and
for
landscaping,
but
we
also
want
to
define
what
types
of
adjustments
to
those
standards
are
possible
without
going
through
a
public
hearing,
because
that's
a
logical
thing
to
do
with
landscaping,
given
that
there's
an
easement
running
through
the
property
and
you
can't
put
any
trees
or
improvements
there,
that's
a
logical
change
to
the
fence
height
requirement,
given
that
the
neighbor
is
much
higher
land
or
lower
land
than
what
you
have.
So
I'm
not
s.
D
We
have
not
drafted
that,
but
the
types
of
things
that
are
approved
under
boise's
current
pud
regulations
in
most
newer
codes
would
say
either.
It
is
many
of
those
things
could
be
handled
if
they're
minor,
through
just
defining
the
ambit
of
staff,
flexibility
to
make
reasonable
adjustments
based
on
the
surface
of
the
earth
and
the
neighboring
conditions
and
larger
ones
go
to
planning
and
zoning
commission,
so
they
would
get
a
public
hearing,
but
they're
not
treated
as
complete
deals.
They
are
deviations
from
the
standards
in
to
get
more
flexibility.
Given
a
reason.
It's
not
hey.
D
I
got
a
new
idea.
Those
are
puds.
It's
I'm
trying
to
comply
with
everything,
and
I
need
flexibility
based
on
the
following
thing
that
I
am
doing
so
we
haven't.
We
will
be
able
to
flesh
this
out
more,
particularly
in
module
three,
because
usually
when
you
say
okay,
when
you
use
a
pud,
this
is
the
process
that
you
use
to
review
it.
These
are
the
types
of
amenities
that
need
to
be
put
in
here
we
we've
put
in
here
you
can
see.
D
If
you
look
at
page
45
of
this,
you
first
have
to
be
eligible.
You
have
to
be
of
a
size
that
makes
it
worthwhile
considering
this.
If
it's
smaller
than
these
things,
you
should
try
to
figure
out,
can
it
can
it
be
done
through
this
design,
flexibility
we
have
suggested
in
here,
and
this
is
for
you
folks
to
comment
if
you
want
to
do
a
negotiated
deal
with
the
city.
That
is
not
something
that
can
be
handled
administratively
or
by
planning
the
zoning
commission.
D
You
need
to
be
offering
energy
conservation
or
water
conservation
or
private
recreational
facilities
or
some
sort
of
gathering
space,
low
impact
design
or
you
preserving
unique
natural
land
forms.
There's
a
list
of
things
that
we're
willing
to
do
deals
on
because
you're
trying
to
do
something
of
value
to
boise
and
we're
willing
to
allow
additional
flexibility
that
needs
to
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
city
council.
So
you
can
just
see
it's
about
three
pages
long.
H
D
D
O
I
think
there
has
to
be
some
flexibility.
I
totally
agree
in
the
best
of
all
worlds.
I
I
would
say
all
of
these
elements
are
should
be
required,
but
there's
an
economics
to
this
thing
that
we
all
have
to
be
mindful
of
and
in
order
for
people
to
invest
and
bring
affordable
housing
to
the
marketplace,
they're
going
to
need
some
some
back
and
forth,
and
some
some
leeways.
O
Well,
the
protection
of
the
existing
neighborhoods
tend
to
be
the
neighborhoods
whose
densities
are
are
a
lower
level
density,
and
you
know
less
than
eight
units
per
acre
and
in
some
cases
yet
less
than
a
unit
per
acre
or
a
unit.
Every
five
acres
so
now
we're
taking
a
zoning
ordinance
and
we're
gonna
provide
opportunities
for
those
areas
to
be
densified.
O
D
Let
me
I
think
this
is
such
an
important
topic.
I'd
like
to
respond
to
it
notwithstanding.
We
have
four
hands
raised,
at
least
maybe
there's
some
more
that
I
haven't
seen
and,
and
we
only
have
about
10
or
10
or
15
minutes
before
we
need
to
open
this
up
for
public
comment
by
our
observers.
So
I'm
going
to
try
to
say
this
quickly,
good,
that's
an
excellent
point.
If-
and
I
want
to
point
out
to
everybody
as
you
read
this
scratch
your
head
hard
and
think
about
this,
because
this
is
a
critical
part
blueprint.
D
Boise
says
we
are
going
to
have
varieties
of
housing
and
I
think
the
words
are
in
all
areas
of
the
city
and
the
mayor
has
said
our
focus
is
to
make
a
city
for
everyone.
What
is
in
this
draft
is,
first
of
all,
we
have
not
done
intensities.
We
haven't
done
units
per
acre.
That
is,
we
know
what
they
are
today,
but
we
have
not
made
those
decisions
they're
coming
up
in
module
two.
Is
it
eight
to
the
acre?
Is
it
five
for
the
acre?
Is
it
a
bigger
minimum
lot
sizes?
It's
a
smaller!
D
D
So
the
short
answer
question-
and
I
expected
there
to
be
very
robust
conversation
about
this-
is
the
draft
in
front
of
you
says
we
are
trying
to
protect
the
scale
and
character
of
those
neighborhoods
by
requiring
new
developments
to
be
of
a
similar
nature
size
with
open
space,
not
overcrowded.
If
you
got
four
units
you
might
have
to
put
four
parking
spaces.
Well,
I
can't
do
four
parking
spaces.
D
D
A
No,
I
I
think,
that's
a
good
start
and
we
can
always
elaborate
at
a
later
time
as
well.
So
I
think
for
our
lineup
as
we
move
forward.
Let's
do
richard
the
welland
byron
falwell,
followed
by
drew
alexander,
patrick
spout
and
then
brad
nielsen
and
then
we'll
see.
If
anybody
else
has
anything
as
well,
so
richard
go
ahead
and
take
it
away.
U
U
You
know
a
lot
of
us,
don't
live
near
the
foothills.
A
lot
of
us
don't
live
near
the
river,
and
so
it's
really
in
those
areas
where
the
affordability
mandates
will
be
most
readily
met
without
any
additional
cost
to
the
developer,
where
we
most
need
those
amenities
where
we
most
need
gathering
spaces
and
open
space,
etc.
So
I
have
real
problems
with
with
the
long-term
consequences
of
that.
Thank
you.
A
And
just
to
follow
up,
marissa
has
made
a
comment
in
the
chat
as
well,
noting
that,
just
because
it's
affordable
housing,
individuals
that
live
there
deserve
a
really
nice
place
to
live
as
well.
They
often
have
children
that
deserve
somewhere
to
play
and
live
in
a
quality
environment
so
that
that
is
heard
again
so
drew.
Why
don't
you
go
ahead?.
P
Thanks,
I
think,
overall,
the
structure
format
looked
great.
It's
a
lot
to
process,
but
it's
it's
it's
good.
I
think
it's
user
friendly
and
I
look
forward
to
diving
in
in
more
detail.
My
only
question
is
that
I
know
that
you
kind
of
have
these
placeholders
built
for
the
various
zones
and
the
requirements
tables.
P
I'm
curious
if
there's
room
on
some
of
the
higher
intensity
zones
as
you
get
up
to
r3
mixed
use
to
include
density
minimums
into
the
conversation
as
well.
I
see
that
density.
Maximums
is
a
pretty
prevalent
term
that
we
have
here,
but
I
see
that
element
oftentimes
in
even
smaller
cities,
where
they're
not
growing
at
nearly
the
face
voicing
is,
but
that's
my
main
comment,
and
I
think
I
see
the
claws.
P
F
I
like
most
of
what
I
see
here,
I
think
it's
a
great
start
to
our
process.
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
details
and
the
numbers
in
module.
Two,
the
one
zoning
designation
specific
that
I
want
to
mention
is
limited
food
and
drink
in
some
of
the
other,
lower
density
r
zones,
and
there
are
certain
things
in
boise,
including
the
recently
reopened
and,
as
far
as
I
know,
beloved
roosevelt
market,
at
least
allowing
that
as
a
conditional
possibility,
those
are
sometimes
quite
beloved.
F
D
M
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
do
I
agree
with
andrew
and
what
he
was
saying.
My
concern
was
this:
consolidation
of
zoning
might
leave
some
of
the
more
protected
areas-
vulnerable
and
also
I'd
like
to
say
I
agree
with
richard,
even
though
I
would
like
for
him
to
dumb
it
down
a
little
bit,
so
my
brain
doesn't
fry
every
time.
I
try
to
understand
what
he's
saying
but
and
also
I
know
it's
probably
not
popular,
but
I
just
don't
understand
why
we
are
accommodating
everybody
that
comes
across
the
state
line.
M
Why
do
we
have
to
destroy
our
town
just
to
accommodate
people
that
want
to
move
here?
If
nobody's
noticed,
there's
mass
exodus
of
all
these
inclusive
cities?
You
know
people
are
leaving
all
these
towns
that
were
built
for
everybody,
so
I
don't
want
boise
to
be
one
of
those
places
we
got
to
think
to
the
future.
Not
just
be
you
know,
reactive
to
what's
going
on
right
now.
D
D
So
I'd
like
to
pick
up
on
what
richard
said,
which
which
I
meant
what
I
said,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
an
it's
a
it's,
a
very
important
thing
for
people
to
think
about
in
two
different
ways.
Several
people,
including
richard,
I
think
and
others
have
said
you
know
just
because
you're
you
you
need
to
be
in
affordable
housing,
doesn't
mean
you
need
to
be
in
a
second
rate.
Neighborhood!
That's
that's
one
important
thing
is
this
really
where
we
want
to
waive
amenities?
D
Remember
that
puds
are
not
the
main
vehicle
for
doing
affordable
housing.
If
we
do
our
job
the
base,
zoning
district
will
allow
more
more
affordable
units
and
more
varied
units
and
you'll
see
those
details
as
we
go
forward.
But
beauties
are
an
escape
hatch.
You
use
it
when
the
other
stuff
doesn't
work.
Your
code
ought
to
work
90
of
the
time
your
code
ought
to
work
95
of
the
time
you
can
build
in
incentives
and
relaxations
if
you
want
to
call
them.
D
So
I
I
I
take
the
comment
very
seriously
as
a
global
comment,
as
look
just
because
you're
in
a
lower
income
neighborhood
or
you
can
only
afford
housing,
that's
less
expensive
doesn't
mean
you
should
be
a
second-class
citizen
in
terms
of
amenities.
I
get
that,
and
I
hear
it
loud
and
clear.
I
just
want
everybody
to
understand.
Pds
are
not
the
major
vehicle
for
well,
that's
not
how
we're
going
to
slay
this
dragon.
That's!
That
is
not
the
way
you
do
affordable
housing.
D
It
is
the
escape
hatch
for
the
truly
unique
things
that
you
want
to
get
approval
for,
even
though
you
hadn't
thought
about
them
before,
and
they
will
contribute
to
what
you
want
to
do
now.
The
second
way
in
which
richard's
question
is
is
very
important.
Is
this
those
of
you
in
the
development
community
and
in
the
neighborhoods?
Please
think,
as
you
review
this
draft,
how
will
the
market
respond
to
this,
because
there
is
an
ongoing
debate
in
many
cities
about
this?
D
Okay,
so
we
are
neutrally
opening
up
flexibility
for,
for
example,
you
to
do
two
or
three
units
in
a
building
that
looks
and
quacks
like
a
single-family
house.
If
you
had
a
lot
big
enough
that
you
could
handle
the
parking
and
the
landscaping
in
the
open
space
that
you
need
to
do
for
three
units,
how
will
the
market
respond
to
that
it
and
I'm
just
going
to
throw
this
out?
I
don't
no
one
knows
the
answer
to
this.
D
That's
an
unintended
consequence
that
could
happen,
and
some
people
will
tell
you
they're
sure
it's
going
to
happen.
Others
will
tell
you
at
least
based
on
my
experience
in
other
cities.
I
don't
know
I
really.
I
could
see
the
opposite
happen.
I
could
see
somebody
saying
if
I
could
do
a
duplex
or
triplex
in
a
single
family
house
structure
that
you
look
at
from
the
outside
and
say
that's
pretty
much
what
the
neighbors
are
like.
J
That
is
something
that
we
can't
control.
It's
not
land
cost
it's
right.
Now
it's
upper
cost,
but
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
other
costs
of
the
development
of
things.
The
zoning
code
is
not
going
to
change
economics
or
market
forces
out
to
change
capitalism,
and
unfortunately
I
mean
I
I
am,
as
I
said
in
my
little
post-it
note
thing
earlier.
D
So
before
I
think
we
still
have
time
for
the
public
open
comments,
but
let
me
I
thank
you,
hillary.
I
think
it's
very
important
another.
So
one
of
the
you
know
I
ask
you
to
please
read
this
from
the
point
of
view
of
when
is
it
saying
no,
when
it
doesn't
have
to
say
no
another
way
of
asking
the
question
which
I
think
relates
to
what
hillary
said
is:
why
are
we
overdoing
it?
D
When
are
the
youth
specific
standards
too
detailed
too
complicated
that
upon
reflection,
you
know
it's
the
words
sound
good,
but
how
important
are
those
words
if
they
result
in
developers
saying
well
nah?
No,
I
don't.
I
don't
think
so,
not
not.
If
I
got
to
do
that
too,
so
you
know
it's
easy
to
read:
what's
there
it's
someone
times
easy
to
think
about?
D
What's
not
there
that
you
would
like
it's
much
harder
to
think
about
what's
there
that
doesn't
need
to
be
there
what
could
be
erased
to
make
life
simpler
to
make
the
market
responses
to
these
more
predictable
without
compromising
the
quality
of
this
or
its
impacts
on
the
neighborhood?
So
we
try
to
do
that
at
clarion.
D
We
don't
try
to
make
stuff
up,
that's
just
to
sound
good
on
words,
because
every
one
of
those
is
a
potential
barrier.
It's
a
trade-off.
It
does
some
good
and
it
costs
some
money.
So
please
do
look
at
it
and
if
and
please
give
us
your
advice,
you
know
I
don't
think
you
need
all
of
these
conditions
to
get
what
you're
trying
to
get
here
in
boise
to
get
blueprint,
boise
implemented.
So
all
right,
andrea
back
to
you.
A
T
Well
sure,
I
guess
I
was
trying
to
sorry
for
not
being
able
to
do
it,
my
screen's
being
weird,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
belabor
it.
I
just
I.
I
think
I
look
at
it
from
a
developer's
perspective,
as
you
mentioned
don,
and
these
things
cost
money
and
if
we
want
affordability,
truly
affordable
units,
you
have
to
have
supply.
T
They
cannot
pay
their
permanent
debt
service
if
they
have
affordable,
rentals
or
they're
selling
at
a
below
market
rent,
it's
economics-
and
I
just
I
I
mean
it's
a
hard
place
to
get
to.
I
just
want
people
to
remember
everything
has
a
cost.
Zoning
is
not
a
plate.
I
mean
you
can't
you
can't
compete
with
capitalism.
I
guess
to
hillary's
point:
that's
all
I
wanted
to.
A
C
A
N
Said
and
wanted
to
add
that
we
also
don't
we're
just
looking
at
the
city
of
boise,
so
development
can
flow
easily
across
city
boundaries
and
if
it
becomes
not
worth
the
risk
reward
profile
for
development
to
build
in
boise
or
additional
cost
to
meet
these
standards
it.
The
development
will
just
continue
to
move
to.
You
know
other
neighboring
municipalities
who
aren't
updating
their
zoning
code
to
match
ours.
A
X
That's
number
two
and
number
three
is,
of
course,
removing
off
street
parking
requirements.
It's
important
to
note.
It
is
always
always
in
the
developers
best
interest
to
provide
enough
off
street
parking
for
future
tenants
simply
put
if
they
do
not
provide
enough
parking,
they
won't
be
able
to
sell
the
project.
Future
tenants
will
not
buy
or
rent
their
properties
it
just
it
doesn't
work.
X
Proper
management
of
on-street
parking
via
goldilocks
parking
meter.
Pricing
that
continually
ensures
approximately
15
vacancy
helps
ensure
tenants
do
not
take
advantage
of
the
public
parking
which
might
have
previously
been
free
as
part
of
allowing
reduced
auto
parking.
I
might
also
recommend
that
developers
partner
with
one
of
boise's
electric
scooter
companies
to
provide
electric
scooter
rental
charging
spaces,
so
visitors
can
come
from
across
the
community
and
have
a
place
to
park
their
scooters
and
encourage
non-auto
uses
and
a
great
source
of
video
articles
and
books
on
the
subject
of
cities
appropriately.
X
D
D
A
Y
Thank
you,
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
the
committee
members
for
all
their
hard
work
on
this.
I
wanted
to
say
that
I
do
appreciate
don
elliott's
comment,
as
you
started
in
about
encouraging
all
the
committee
members
to
be
given
time
to
equally
comment,
and
that
was
something
I
was
going
to
bring
up
as
I've
reviewed
the
meetings.
D
V
V
So
we
have
an
opportunity
to
improve
things
in
a
way
that
I
don't
know
if
well
we
I
don't
think
any
of
us
on
the
committee
have
had
an
opportunity
to
do,
because
this
this
plan
hasn't
been
updated
in
so
long.
So
I
guess
I
would
just
echo
what
dawn
said
that
we
have
to
compromise,
and
we
we
have
to
think
about
the
fact
that
there
will
be
change.
There
is
change
that
is
occurring,
and
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
impact.
How
change
happens
as
we
move.
A
No,
I
think
this
was
an
excellent
discussion.
I
know
that
some
people
are
verbal.
I
know
some
people
do
better
written
or
so
you
know
if,
if
you
are
more
comfortable
doing
one
or
another,
that's
fine
just
make
sure
that
you
do
provide
us
with
the
comments
so
that
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
everybody
is
heard
on
the
committee
and
we
can
make
a
valuable
recommendation
to
to
our
leaders
and
say
hey
this
is
we
understand
that
there's
compromises
and
here's
how
we
best
believe
that
we
can
achieve
those
compromises.