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A
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
we'll
just
do
a
quick
agenda
review
and
then
take
a
break
until
six
o'clock.
So
item
number
one
on
the
agenda
tonight
we
are
requesting
deferral
indefinitely
of
that
item.
The
associated
rezone
was
denied
at
city
council,
so
we
do
not
have
a
date
specific,
so
we'll
just
defer
that
one
in
definitely.
A
Item
number
two:
this
is
a
late
addition
to
the
agenda
tonight.
Number
two
is
requesting
deferral
until
March,
8th
the
next
hearing
and
I
would
go
for
number
item
number
three,
as
well
date,
specific
to
March
8th
item
number.
Four.
We
are
expecting
some
public.
We
could
try
consent
if
the
committee
is
comfortable
with
the
project
and
the
conditions
of
approval.
I
do
not
know
if
we
will
have
public
president
or
not.
A
Item
number
five:
we
will
need
to
hear.
A
Item
number
six-
and
this
was
in
your
packets-
it
is
a
deferral
to
March,
8th.
A
Item
number:
seven:
we
will
hear
item
number
eight.
We
are
anticipating
potential
members
of
the
public,
otherwise
we
could
try
consent.
B
And
Josh
real,
quick,
sorry
just
to
the
rest
of
the
board,
I'll
be
recusing.
C
Josh
any
questions
on
the
agenda
tonight
all
right.
Thanks,
Josh
all
right
good
evening,
I'd
like
to
call
the
February
8th,
2023
design,
review
committee
meeting
to
order
and
Christina
will
you
please
call
the
roll.
C
At
this
time
we
want
to
have
a
couple
of
meeting
minutes.
The
first
one
is
the
design
review
committee
meeting
minutes
for
December
14
2022
can
I
get
emotion
on
those
I.
C
Second,
thank
you.
Christina
called
the
roll
on
the
December
14th
2022
minutes.
C
One
more:
we
have
the
design
review
committee
meeting
minutes
for
January
11th
2023,
just
looking
for
a
motion.
C
Thank
you.
We
do
have
four
items
up
for
a
deferral
tonight.
The
first
item
to
be
deferred
is
item
number
one.
It's
non-date
specific
it'll
be
reposted.
It's
drh22-00443,
the
location
is
916
West
Sherwood
street.
It's
for
the
construction
of
a
new
six-story
mixed
use,
building
with
34
residential
units
and
ground
floor,
commercial
space
and
structured
parking
on
a
property
in
a
pending
rodda
Zone,
so
that
one
will
get
reposted
the
next
one
for
deferrals
item
number:
two:
it's
will
be
deferred
to
the
March
8th
hearing
next
month.
C
It's
Dr
h22-0044,
it's
one.
Its
location
is
1385
South,
Capitol
Boulevard.
It's
for
the
construction,
a
new
six-story
multi-use,
building
with
49
residential
use
units,
amenity,
space,
ground
floor,
commercial
space,
structured
parking
on
a
property
in
a
pending
r-o-d-d-c-a-d-a
Zone.
C
Is
there
any
member
of
the
audience
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item?
Who
cannot
make
the
March
8th
date
online?
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
C
C
Location
is
also
1385,
South
Capitol,
it's
for
the
construction
of
new
six
story,
multi-family
building
with
39
residential
units,
amenity
space
and
structured
parking
on
a
property
unit,
bending
rodcda
Zone
again
this
will
be
deferred
to
the
March
8th
hearing
and
again
is
there
any
other
members
of
public
wishing
to
speak
to
this
item?
Can
I
make
that
date
or
virtually
CNN?
Thank
you.
I'll
be
moved
on
to
the
referrals.
C
It's
Dr
h22-00453
location
is
7767
West
Gratz
streets
for
the
construction
of
a
new,
approximately
21
320
square
foot,
two-story
Automotive,
Sales,
building
and
Associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
in
a
c2d
Zone.
Are
there
any
members
of
this
audience
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item?
Who
cannot
make
the
March
8th
date
or
virtually
please
raise
your
hand.
C
It's
another
person,
then
virtually
and
with
that.
That
concludes
our
deferrals
for
this
month
and
I
would
be
open
for
a
motion.
F
C
C
We
have
two
items
that
we're
going
to
look
at
for
consent
agenda.
The
first
item
would
be
item
number.
Eight
number
eight
is.
C
Drh23-00002
location
is
1616,
South,
Denver
Avenue,
it's
a
construction
of
two
new
single-family
residences
on
a
contiguous
substandard
Lots.
With
waiver
requests
on
a
property
located
in
an
r2d
zone
is
the
applicant
present.
The
record
show
that
the
African
is
present
and
is
the
applicant
in
agreement
with
recommended
conditions
of
approval.
G
C
B
C
Applicant
present
tonight
please
show
the
applicant
is
present
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval
that
record
show
the
applicant
is
in
agreement?
Are
there
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item
tonight,
either
in
person
or
virtually
seeing
none
in
person
Josh
and
virtually
great?
That
concludes
our
items
for
our
consent.
Agenda
tonight
and
I
would
be
open
for
emotion,
Mr.
F
H
G
B
Chair,
yes,
my
vote
for
the
consent
agenda
will
not
include
item
drh
23-00002,
as
my
firm
was
the
assisted,
the
applicant
with
their
project.
Thank.
C
You
Mr
Simple
with
that
Christina.
Will
you
please
call
the
roll.
D
C
So
the
first
time
we
have
here
is
item
number
seven
leave
right.
No
sorry,
nope
skipping
item
number
five.
Four
there
it
is
get
another
right.
Page
is
item
number
four
drh
22-00420
location
is
801.
East
Reserve
Street
me
excuse
me:
it's
for
the
construction
of
a
new
mixed
use,
development
consisting
in
206
residential
units
and
three
buildings
with
ground
floor,
commercial
space
and
structured
parking
on
a
property
in
SE
to
DDA
Zone
and
with
this
I
will
turn
it
over
to
staff
Josh.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee.
The
outcome
before
you
tonight
for
drh22-00420
is
requesting
approval
of
a
mixed-use
development
located
at
801
East
Reserve
Street
in
the
East
end,
it's
located
on
Parcels
of
land,
directly
adjacent
to
the
existing
Armory
building
south
of
Reserve
Street
west
of
Avenue
H
and
north
of
Logan.
A
There
is
a
city,
Fire,
Department,
directly
adjacent
to
the
site,
to
the
west
and,
of
course,
North
across
Reserve
Street
is
the
Fort
Boise
military
Reserve
open
space
area,
so
the
property
has
a
split
zoning
designation
in
2012
the
property
was
rezoned
when
it
was
transferred
to
a
private
party.
The
arm
current
Armory
site
is
C2
Dash
da
with
no
design
review
overlay.
You
will
note,
and
the
parcel
to
the
east
is
c2d-ga
with
design
review.
A
A
There
is
a
large
apartment
and
mixed-use
building
on
the
east
side,
fronting
Avenue,
H,
Reserve
Street
on
the
North
and
Logan
on
the
south,
that
building
contains
195
residential
units,
ground
floor
commercial
space
and
also
some
ground
floor
and
Subterranean
parking
for
the
project
as
a
whole.
Additionally,
there
are
two
townhouse
buildings:
fronting
Logan
Street
directly
to
the
south
of
the
Armory
building.
A
The
landscape
plan
here
shown
here
does
depict
the
required
landscaping
and
detached
sidewalks
along
the
street
frontages
there's
existing
mature
Landscaping
on
the
Armory
site,
which
will
not
be
modified
with
this
project
and
will
be
maintained
during
construction.
A
So,
as
mentioned,
there
is
a
Subterranean
level
of
parking,
a
ground
floor
level
of
parking
which
is
surrounded
by
units
at
the
street
level,
on
Avenue,
H
and
Logan
Street,
and
then
apartments
above
the
apartment
building
has
been
split
into
two
masses,
which
I
think
is
is
shown
very
well
in
this
diagram
here
somewhat
difficult
to
describe
in
words,
but
it
is
divided
into
two
masses,
one
to
the
north
and
one
to
the
south
of
an
East-West
rooftop
Plaza.
A
The
proposed
structure-
and
this
is
the
Reserve
Street
elevation-
uses
a
variety
of
materials.
There
is
a
wood
grain
symmetry
slap
siding.
There
are
areas
of
eephis.
There
is
vertical
ribbed
siding.
There
is
storefront
windows
expanses,
certainly
in
the
mixed
use
in
commercial
areas
of
the
building
shown
here
that
front
on
Reserve
Street
those
contain
that
commercial
space,
some
amenity
areas
for
residents
and
also
some
leasing
offices
moving
south
on
Avenue
H.
A
You
can
see
on
the
top
elevation
there,
that's
significant
break
in
the
building
with
a
rooftop
Plaza
again
the
similar
materials
are
carried
down.
This
elevation
of
the
building
it
uses
balconies,
horizontal
and
vertical
modulation,
and
changes
in
materials
to
help
break
up
that
building
facade
the
east
side
of
the
project
or
I'm.
A
Sorry
west
side
of
the
project
facing
the
Armory
again
carries,
carries
forward
that
same
design
concept
and
materials
again,
showing
that
significant
massing
break
on
the
second
floor
of
the
structure,
with
the
view
through
to
the
armory
and
the
town
home
structures
on
Logan
are
detailed,
similar
material
palettes
and
colors.
They
use
balconies
overhangs
at
the
building
entrances,
which
are
well
depicted
in
the
renderings
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen
here
and
then
some
rooftop
modulation
to
provide
visual
interest.
A
I
will
note
that
city
council
held
a
hearing
last
night
on
an
appeal
of
the
planned
unit
development
associated
with
this
project.
The
appeal
was
denied
and
pnz's
decision
to
approve
the
project
was
upheld.
There
were
no
added
conditions
of
approval
which
will
impact
this
project.
Tonight
there
was
a
condition
added
for
extra
precautions
to
be
taken
when
constructing
around
the
Armory
building
to
protect
its
historic
significance,
but
no
site-specific
conditions
that
will
impact
the
design
before
you
tonight.
A
The
applicant
is
still
working
with
Public
Works
solid
waste
on
an
appropriate
location
for
the
Solid
Waste
Services.
There
are
three
Solid
Waste
Service
areas
proposed
one
down
near
the
town
homes
along
Logan,
Street
on
the
west
end
of
the
Townhomes
another
one
on
the
east
end
of
the
Town
Homes
on
the
main
building,
the
one
that
is
still
in
discussions
with
Public
Works
is
the
northern
trash
enclosure
area
on
the
mixed-use
building.
A
So
the
applicant
has
proposed
a
trash
room
in
the
location
near
the
entrance
to
the
garage
City
staff
had
concerns
about
that
location.
There
is
significant
impact
to
the
streetscape
on
Avenue
H
to
accommodate
the
staging
of
the
bins
and
then
a
pull
out
for
the
for
the
service
truck
Public
Works
is
working
with
the
applicant
on
relocating
that
service
area.
There
are
a
couple
of
proposals
on
the
table
that
we
are
working
through,
but
the
applicant
will
be
required
to
comply
with
those
requirements
for
public
works.
A
I
think
the
most
attractive
proposal
right
now
for
From
staff's
perspective
I
apologize
is
to
locate
some
trash
collection
on
the
other,
the
garage
entrance
that
is
directly
to
the
west
of
that
other
entrance
on
Avenue
H.
Of
course,
the
dumpsters
and
trash
bins
would
be
stored
inside
the
building
except
they're
in
collection,
but
there
is
an
opportunity
on
that
side
of
the
building
for
a
staging
area
which
doesn't
significantly
impact
the
streetscape.
A
The
applicant
is
here
tonight:
has
a
presentation
prepared
and
I
would
stand
for
any
questions.
Thank
you.
C
I
Are
you
pulling
that
up
Josh?
Thank
you:
Dustin
Holt,
Alpha
development,
I'm,
a
principal
and
partner
at
Alpha,
Development,
Group,
Mr,
chair
and
committee
members.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
this
evening.
We
appreciate
being
before
you
appreciate
your
service
to
the
city.
We
are
we're,
finally
here
and
we're
finally
here
to
talk
about
the
fun
stuff,
and
so
we're
we're
very
much
excited
about
that.
Well,
while
Josh
is
pulling
there,
we
go.
Thank
you.
Josh
I
want
to
thank
Mr,
Wilson
and
other
staff.
I
Members
that
we
have
been
working
with.
You
guys
have
phenomenal
staff.
Alpha
development
is
a
regional
development
company,
we've
developed
in
four
surrounding
states,
while
we're
based
in
Salt
Lake
we've
been
involved
in
about
5
000
multi-family
units
and
over
2
million
square
feet
of
commercial
mixed
use
in
multi-family,
really
is
our
our
Fourier
and
and
Specialty.
We
fell
in
love
with
the
Armory
building
when
we
when
we
first
came
in
contact
with
it
almost
two
years
ago.
These
are
some
slides.
I
I
Sorry
Bradley
may
have
given
Josh
the
incorrect
PDF,
but
nevertheless
the
show
will
go
on
so
the
Armory
building,
as
Mr
Wilson
mentioned,
the
Armory
building
itself
is
an
incredible
building.
We're
excited
about
the
Redevelopment
of
that
building
and
then
specific
to
the
design.
There
we
go.
Thank
you
very
much
specific
to
the
design
review.
I
Really
we're
focused
on
what
is
to
the
West,
the
the
current
surface
parking
lot
to
the
or
to
the
east,
to
the
east
of
the
Armory
building.
What
I?
What
I
want
to
State?
First
and
foremost,
is
the
Armory
building
played
a
a
massive
role
in
the
way
we
thought
through
this
and
the
way
we
designed
it,
how
we
designed
it
where
we
located
buildings,
how
we
located
buildings
as
we
shared
with
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
city
council.
Last
night,
we
looked
at
this
as
a
three-legged
stool.
I
So
there
is
a
development
agreement
on
the
site
which
has
some
governance.
Then
there's
underlying
zoning
in
the
neighborhood
area,
Center
that
has
other
governance
and
then
trying
to
be
be
respectful
and
responsive
to
concerns
of
the
neighbors
that
we
heard
and
the
process
that
we
went
through.
What
is
not
on
this
presentation
is
is
five
or
six
meetings
that
we
had
with
the
East
End
neighborhood
association,
where
some
of
our
initial
Concepts
started
and
and
where
We've
Ended
up.
We,
we
didn't
want
to
bore
you
with
that.
I
We
wanted
to
focus
on
the
fun
and
exciting
stuff
that
that
we
have
so
I
think
that,
generally
speaking,
we've
read
staff's
report,
we're
in
full
agreement
with
staff
support
or
or
report
and
their
support,
but
we
wanted
to
add
some
additional
context
and
Clarity.
I
So
there
are
two
points
of
concern
or
item
that
we
would
like
to
discuss
with
you
tonight,
probably
the
the
first
and
largest
being
one
of
the
things
that
you
saw
in
the
staff
report
and
it's
it's
detailed
in
the
light
green
between
our
mixed
use,
building
and
the
Armory
Armory.
I
We
really
want
that
driveway
to
the
entirety
of
that
drive
aisle
to
be
at
a
pedestrian
scale,
letting
landscaping
and
bollard's
Hardscape
with
different
patterns.
Inside
of
that
Hardscape
be
what
delineates,
the
walkway
and
the
pathway.
You'll
you'll
see
a
response
from
staff
that
the
sidewalk
is
wanted.
The
request
is
actually
have
to
be
a
raised,
detached
sidewalk,
disconnected
adjacent
to
a
curb
and
gutter.
I
We
very
much
want
that
alleys,
Alleyway
or
connection
to
satisfy
both
fire,
which
it
needs
to
but
be
done
in
a
way
that
is
way
more
of
a
pedestrian
scale.
If
we
can
get
Canary
lights
because
of
the
fire
truck
we'd
love
it.
If
we
can
get
pavers
approved
with
because
the
fire
truck
weight,
we
would
love
it,
but
but
at
a
minimum
make
certain
that
landscaping
and
hardscaping
is
what
creates
the
delineation
ballards.
Other
things.
I
Lighting
is
what
creates
the
delineation
between
the
vehicular
area
and
The
Pedestrian
area,
and
that's
probably
the
the
one
major
Point
that
we
would
love
to
get
your
input
on
tonight
and
then
the
second
as
Mr
Wilson
mentioned,
is
the
trash
enclosure.
That
location
is
a
trash
chute
and
so
to
potential
the
current
location
in
the
northeast
corner.
I
We're
hopeful
that
you
might
have
other
mitigating
measures,
other
landscape,
other
ways,
suggestions
that
you
might
have
that
we
can
take
back
to
staff
but
to
think
through
flipping
that
changes
the
orientation
of
the
trash
chute
and
some
other
things
into
that
other
other
area.
So
we
would
love
your
your
feedback
on
that
item,
specifically
as
we
look
at
site,
design
and
site
landscape.
I
This
is
an
image
from
the
raised
Plaza
The,
Hardscape,
Plaza
I
call
it
the
Zelda
sword,
but
you
can
see
between
the
two
buildings
is
a
large
Plaza,
pergola
swimming
or
Spa,
an
area
of
seating
Amphitheater
for
events
and
activities,
barbecues
a
slack
line
and
a
hammock
Garden.
Multiple
fire
pits
multiple
seating
areas
between
the
two
buildings,
and
this
is
an
image
of
the
planners
and
around
one
of
those
such
fire.
Fire
pits,
site,
design,
Landscaping
I
think
is
noted.
I
We've
been
working
with
the
city
with
achd
and
making
certain
that
we
can
provide
trees
along
the
achd
right
away,
so
both
along
Logan
Avenue,
as
well
as
or
Logan
Ave
and
Avenue
H
Logan
Street
and
makes
certainly
can
provide
those
and
then,
as
mentioned
the
mature
Landscaping,
particularly
in
front
of
the
Armory
along
Reserve
Street.
I
We
absolutely
want
to
make
certain
that
it's
there
and
it's
only
can
continue
to
be
an
enhancement
to
the
area
site
drainage,
we're
actually
looking
at
a
full
underground
storm
Tech
system,
so
water
Vault
connection
system,
so
that
any
of
the
storm,
detention
and
other
than
trash
I
think
we've
worked
through
with
violia
water
and
others
how
to
Loop
their
system,
get
fire
flows
and
everything
that
are
needed
and
there's
there's
nothing.
I
That's
exciting
to
me
about
that.
That's
the
civil
engineer,
side,
all
right,
so
some
of
the
the
structure,
design
and
the
building
massing
and
facades.
These
are
images
that
Josh
shared
with
you,
so
I
won't
spend
too
much
time
on
those.
What
we
wanted
to
do
is
talk
through
some
of
our
materiality
and
some
of
where
our
precedent,
imagery
and
really
inspiration,
came
from.
I
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
going
through
the
East
End
going
around
the
homes
in
the
Jason
area,
going
up
and
down
streets
trying
to
pull
bits
and
pieces.
There's
a
lot
of
earth
tones
in
this
area.
There's
a
lot
of
woods.
I
There's
a
lot
of
metals,
there's
a
lot
of
Browns
Grays,
Earth,
Tones
and
you're,
seeing
that
reflected
whether
it
is
Brick,
whether
it's
some
of
the
metal
ribbing,
whether
it's
the
cementitious
panel,
trying
to
be
mindful
of
those
colors
and
the
Earth
Tones
that
are
around
us
with
really
the
one
juxtaposition,
and
that
is
the
town
homes
themselves.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
noticed
is
is,
as
some
newer
homes
have
been
built
in
the
East
End.
They
have
slanted
more
modern
and
there's
some
white
stucco.
I
There's
there
in
some
ways
they
stand
out
because
they're
so
different
than
some
of
the
earth
tones
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
noticed
was
about
one
in
ten
one
in
15
homes,
kind
of
had
some
of
those
elements.
And
so,
as
we
look
at
206
units,
we
looked
at
roughly
at
five
to
seven
percent
mix
of
those.
I
So
it's
the
11
Town
Homes
detached
not
associated
with
the
mixed
use,
building
in
its
entirety,
adjacent
to
it
and
then
also
juxtaposed
to
the
kind
of
concrete
Armory
building
itself,
which
is
why
the
town
homes
have
a
a
very
different,
exterior
cladding
and
fill
we
looked
at
fenestration.
We
looked
at
Push
Pull.
We
looked
at
balcony.
We
looked
at
articulation.
We
looked
at
the
depths
of
balconies
to
make
certain
we're
creating
some
of
that
banding
and
some
of
that
theming.
I
When
we
get
to
another
slide,
you'll
see
that
it's
it's
it
Harkens
back
to
actually
some
of
the
Rhythm
on
the
Armory
building
itself,
here's
some
of
our
compatibility
or
precedent
imagery
as
we
drove
around
the
neighborhood,
so
you'll
probably
recognize
the
bear
and
the
deer
at
Saint
Luke's
gold.
Three
different
three
different
colors
of
brown,
depending
on
the
way
and
how
the
Sun
hit
it
with
those
metal
metal
sculptures.
I
That
is
a
direct
reference
to
the
front
of
the
Armory
building
itself,
where
you're,
seeing
some
of
that
orange
Luca,
Luca
Bond
and
some
of
those
materialities
themselves.
The
banding
you've
got
three
different
colors
down
there,
the
gold,
the
more
orange
and
then
some
of
the
brown
tone
that
directly
reflect
some
of.
What's
right.
I
At
the
entrance
to
the
to
the
East
End
Neighborhood,
we
went
out,
went
around
as
I
mentioned
and
looked
at
different
bits
and
pieces,
metal,
metal,
paneling
on
garages,
metal,
paneling
at
unit
entries
of
single-family
homes,
and
we've
tried
to
mimic
those
specifically
and
particularly
on
this
one
down
at
the
Town
Home
level.
I
I
We
saw
many
instances
of
of
dark
exterior
cladding
along
with
Rich
warm
wood
cladding.
So
you're,
seeing
that
inside
of
all
of
those
balconies,
that
that
is
something
that
you'll
see
throughout
the
building
very
similar
railing
pattern
on
on
several
homes
that
we
saw,
then
the
Armory
building
itself
we've
taken,
the
the
Armory
building
is,
is
essentially
100
year
old
building
it's
a
building
in
and
of
itself.
I
We
do
not
want
to
do
anything
that
is
faux
faux
historic,
and
so
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
take
bits
and
pieces
of
this
and
put
our
modern
interpretation
of
them.
So
some
of
these
areas,
where
they've
created
these
vertical
bands
and
these
horizontal
ribs
and
bands,
we've
taken
them,
introduced
them
not
to
have
them,
be
in
100,
plus
foot
long
facade
like
the
Armory
building,
but
we've
broken
them
up.
I
Concrete
some
of
the
steel
for
the
the
patio
is
you're
up
on
that
raised.
Hardscape
looking
at
the
Armory,
the
wood
barrel,
roof
of
the
Armory
building.
We
wanted
to
make
certain
that
we
were
tying
some
of
those
elements
back
right
into
The
Hardscape,
with
some
of
the
Planters,
some
of
the
concrete
Planters,
some
of
the
metal
Planters,
some
of
what
we
have
planned
on
The
Hardscape
area
itself
and
then
right
down
to
board
form
concrete.
I
They
obviously
did
it
because
that's
how
they
did
it
back,
then
we
pay
a
grundle
more
today
to
to
do
it
the
same
way,
but
it
absolutely
is
something
that
we
feel
needs
to
be
done
again
to
hearken
back
to
some
of
those
bits
and
pieces
of
the
Armory
building
in
some
of
its
history
and
then,
as
you
look
at
the
Cadence
of
some
of
the
vertical
columns
on
the
Armory
building
on
those
facades,
some
of
the
Cadence
of
the
windows,
the
the
way
that
they
speak.
I
I
That's
really
an
overview
that
I
have
I've,
got
a
wonderful
architect
with
us,
vice
president
of
method,
Design
Studios
that
can
get
into
far
more
of
the
technical
speak
and
vernacular.
If
you
have
questions,
we
want
to.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
B
Can
you
touch
a
little
bit
on
some
of
the
I
know?
Josh
had
mentioned
some
options
that
you're
looking
at
for
that
for
an
alternate
location
for
that
one
trash
room
that
seems
to
be
kind
of
problematic
for
the
city,
solid
waste
collection.
Can
you
talk
about
that
and
maybe
what
options
you're
exploring
and
what
I
know
you
talked
about?
You
know
it's
going
to
cause
some
redesigned
stuff
but
I'd
like
to
understand
how
that
would
impact
it
kind
of
where
you
feel
it
goes.
I
Yeah,
it
has
to
move
I
think
that's
I,
appreciate
that
Mr
simply
I
I
think
that
so
we've
we've
toyed
with
the
idea
so
Josh
mentioned,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
it
down
in
the
south
west
corner
of
the
site-
is
a
open-air
but
fully
enclosed
trash
enclosure
to
the
west
of
the
Townhomes
tucked
inside
of
the
of
the
multi-family
building
in
the
southwest
corner
of
that
near
the
stair
and
elevator
is
a
secondary
trash
chute
for
building
1
000.
I
That
is
right,
kind
of
at
the
end
of
the
hammer
head
before
you
turn
north
one
of
the
ideas
is
trying
to
expand
the
capacity
of
that
facility
itself,
as
we
understand
it,
you're
looking
for
an
overall
square
footage
and
and
bin
size,
so
one
idea
is
to
expand
that
the
other
is
is
trying
to
actually
introduce
additional
Landscaping
up
on
the
northeast
corner
or
some
additional
buffer.
I
The
concern
is,
we
understand
it
is:
we've
got
a
26
foot,
roughly
Drive
aisle
and
then
a
comparable
amount
of
concrete
that
is
needed
for
those
bins
to
come
out
and
so
we'd
end
up
with
56
feet
of
52
56
feet
of
concrete
at
that
north
east
corner,
and
so
we've
talked
about.
Could
we
do
it
with
other
Landscaping
other
pavers,
the
the
concern
that
we
have
about
doing
it
on
the
roof?
I
The
northwest
corner
that
staff
has
mentioned
is,
if
you
look
at
this,
this
upper
image
right
to
the
left
of
where
it
says,
Armory
is
the
garage
door
into
that
garage,
and
you
can
see
the
glazing
that
is
into
that
kind
of
sitting
area
right
where
the
elevator
is
and
then
the
rooftop
patio
directly
above
it.
I
That
is
where
we
would
need
to
move
the
trash
chute
and
the
trash
enclosure,
and
then
directly
adjacent
to
that
is,
is
the
location
where,
where
staff
is
looking
at
it,
that
is
the
first
thing
that
you're
going
to
see
to
me
as
you're,
coming
down
Reserve
Street
because
of
the
nature
of
Reserve
you're,
going
to
see
this
northwest
corner
of
the
building,
and
so
our
our
response
or
or
rebuttal
is
that
this
is
actually
the
first
thing
that
you'll
see
the
location
that
we
have
it
at
is
hidden
in
some
ways
because
of
the
Care
Facility.
I
That's
directly
across
the
street.
I
understand
staff's
point
that
it's
out
on
the
road
and
and
opens
the
the
concrete
driveway
I
I
wish.
We
had
an
even
better
answer
for
you
at
this
time.
We
don't
I'm
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
get
there
with
a
resolution,
but
in
in
a
large
part
we
would
love
any
direction
or
any
thoughts
that
you
have
that
we
might
be
able
to
incorporate
okay.
H
Chair,
yes,
psycho
I
was
trying
to
find
in
the
staff
report
bike
bicycle
parking.
How
many
spaces
are
you
proposing
and
where
exactly
is
that.
I
Over
200
200
I
think
we
have
200
we're
required
to
provide
200
and
it's
hard
to
see
in
this.
We
don't
have
an
at
grade.
I
Does
this
have
a
laser,
oh
right
in
my
eyeball,
if
you
are,
if
you
can
look
at
this
screen
so
at
grade,
there's
about
50
or
75
of
them
that
are
actually
in
this
area
on
the
at
grade
parking,
what
what
you're
seeing
is
some
of
the
below
grade
parking,
but
the
accurate
parking
some
of
them
are
here,
there's
also
a
bike
wash
and
a
bike
repair
station
there
and
then
there's
additional
down
here
in
this
corner,
adjacent
to
the
elevator
and
the
and
the
stairwell
from
Reserve
Street,
okay,.
H
So
they're
not
going
you're,
not
planning
on
that
they
go
into
the
units
themselves.
Correct!
Okay!
My
next
question
is
I.
Wanted
some
clarification
or
can
you
just
recap
your
concern
with
I'm
just
going
to
call
it
an
Alleyway?
Is
it
8th,
Street
and
that
pedestrian
area
and
the
raised
curb
why
you
want
it
don't
want
it
is
rolled,
curb
an
option.
I
I
think
I
understand
the
intent
that
you're
trying
to
achieve
there.
But
can
you
talk
a
little
more
about
that
yeah.
I
So
without
without
calling
it
a
festival,
Street,
the
intent
is
really
that
this
could
become
like
a
festival,
Street
a
direct
connection
right,
so
the
the
parking
structure
is
384
stalls
and
that
parking
all
provides
is
all
used
and
provides
the
parking
for
the
55
000
square
feet
in
the
Armory
building.
So
pedestrian
connectivity
in
and
out
of
the
Armory
building
into
both
levels
of
parking
is
Paramount,
and
that's
all
going
to
occur
right
here.
So
for
us
we
want
to
see
that
area
really
feel
like
a
pedestrian
scale.
I
The
the
response
is
that
this
yellow
area
needs
to
be
a
raised
area,
and
then,
particularly
here
along
this
parallel
parking
needs
to
be
a
raised
sidewalk
or
a
raised
walkway,
and
that
it
to
us
feels
like
you
add
that
raised
curb
element
and
you
are
you're,
not
creating
the
single
plane
Hardscape
and
an
ability
to
have
that
pedestrian
free
flow
through
that
area
is
that
I.
I
We
think
we
think
that
Landscaping
lighting
bollards
a
delineation
of
Hardscape
materiality
can
create
that
same
same
intent
of
of
truly
creating
a
delineation
between
vehicular
and
pedestrian,
but
in
off
hours,
something
that
is
way
more
permeable
for
pedestrian.
C
Other
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
testify
to
this
tonight
feel
free
to
come
forward
and,
if
you
would
mind.
G
J
Mr,
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Cindy
montodo
I
live
at
718,
East,
McKinley
Street,
here
in
Boise
and
I'm,
the
vice
president
of
the
Easton
neighborhood
association
and
I'm,
the
authorized
representative
to
speak
to
you
tonight
on
this
project.
You
may
know
me
due
to
my
position
as
Vice
chair
on
the
historic
preservation
commission,
but
given
that
this
site
does
not
lie
within
Historic
District
boundaries,
there's
no
conflict
and
not
only
that
the
site
has
National
register
standing.
J
So
therefore,
the
ENA
board
felt
that
my
nearly
a
decade
of
experience
in
historic
preservation
in
Boise
and
my
proximity
to
the
site
as
a
resident
and
my
desire
to
see
the
site
succeed,
all
make
me
a
good
representative
to
speak
to
this.
My
testimony
tonight
to
see
this
or
I'm
sorry.
My
testimony
tonight
has
been
pulled
from
Ina's
appeal:
memorandum
from
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission's
decision
for
the
Pud
application
and
from
Enos
testimony
that
I
presented
in
last
night's
appeal,
foreign
being
developed
with
multi-family
housing.
J
We
look
forward
to
having
a
successful
Neighborhood,
Activity
Center
and
additional
multi-family
housing
in
our
neighborhood,
and
we
recognize
and
applaud.
Alpha
for
their
dedication
to
the
site
on
December
29th
Ina
requested
a
formal
project
review
from
the
Idaho
State
historic
preservation
office
and
the
Idaho
shippo
informed,
Ina
and
Alpha
of
the
following
findings.
That
quote
the
introduction
of
new
construction
in
proximity
to
the
building
would
impact
the
armory's
Integrity
of
setting
for
setting
to
have
integrity
for
National
register
purposes.
It
should
appear
as
much
as
it
did
historically.
J
Historic
Integrity
is
the
ability
of
a
property
to
convey
its
significance
and
to
be
eligible
for
the
national
register.
In
addition
to
being
significant,
a
property
must
retain
sufficient
Integrity
to
convey
its
significance.
J
As
this
site
is
not
located
within
the
historic
district,
it's
not
protected
or
governed
by
anything.
There
was
a
condition
last
night
to
protect
the
property
during
construction,
but
that
was
the
limitation
expressed
by
Council,
in
addition
to
conversations
being
had
surrounding
potential
Landmark
designation
for
the
site,
which
would
offer
a
little
bit
more
protection.
J
But
the
council
didn't
feel
like
in
that
moment
during
the
appeal
was
the
appropriate
time
to
mandate
that
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
is
the
gold
standard,
National
best
practice
for
properties
on
the
National
Historic
register
per
the
standards.
J
Given
the
history
of
this
nationally
registered
site,
Ena
is
requesting
Alpha's
commit
written
commitment
to
include
on-site
display
of
historic
documentation
like
architectural
drawings,
written
narratives
or
quotes
signage,
plaques,
artifacts
or
pieces
of
the
historic
site
like
Machinery
or
equipment,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
have
in
that
Festival
stretch
a
historic,
Armory
walk
that
acknowledges
the
site's
history.
J
We
must
acknowledge
the
military
history
of
the
Fort
Boise
military
Reserve
area
to
fully
appreciate
the
armory's
significance
of
place.
Eno
would
like
to
see
quality
bike
and
walk
access
with
wayfinding
from
Logan
and
Avenue
H
and
Reserve,
with
adequate
bike
parking
conveniently
located
off
of
the
plaza
that
is
covered
against
the
elements
we're
requesting
impervious
surfaces
for
the
plaza
and
all
outdoor
spaces,
and
we
would
like
to
see
the
site
retain
all
of
its
trees
and
even
request
the
planting
of
additional
trees
to
provide
shade
between
the
Armory
building
and
the
new
construction.
B
Mr
chair
one
was
a
quick
question
when
you
discussed
how
the
impact
to
the
National
Registry
with
Redevelopment
does
the
would
the
designation
be
removed
because
the
new
construction
could
it
be
retained
even
with
the
new
construction
there's
just
some
impacts
to
like
the
site,
because
it
looks
like
they're
redeveloping,
mostly
just
a
surface
parking
lot.
So
just
want
to
understand,
like
obviously,
don't
impact
the
designation
of
the
structure
itself,
but
I
just
want.
J
To
understand
that
sure,
commissioner,
simple
and
members
of
the
committee,
according
to
shippo's
findings,
which
they're
required
to
be
quite
nuanced,
they
found
that
the
new
construction
in
proximity
to
the
building
would
impact
the
armory's
Integrity
of
setting
but
wouldn't
necessarily
impact
its
eligibility
status.
However,
other
risks,
because
there
are
no
protections
set
forth
for
the
Armory
at
all,
because
it's
outside
of
the
historic
district
there's
no
facade
easement
and
again
it
doesn't
have
Landmark
designation.
Yet
those
potential
risks
could
impact
its
eligibility
status.
B
Mr
chair
just
a
quick
follow-up,
if
you
know
if
we
can
find
a
way
to
for
that
Festival
Street
to
contain
more,
you
know,
pavers
Landscaping,
as
the
applicant
would
like
to
include
there,
do
you
feel
like
the
Eastside
neighborhood
association
could
see
that
as
a
mitigating
factor
for
the
impacts
of
that
building,
as
well
as
the
potential
for
I
guess
a
facade
easement
on
the
building
itself.
Commissioner,.
J
Simple
members
of
the
committee-
yes
I,
do
think
that
that
is
something
that
Eno
would
see
as
mitigatable
and
something
that
we
asked
for
in
our
appeal
last
night.
So
yes,
okay,.
B
H
Chair,
yes,
yes,
when
you
had
mentioned
the
desire
to
get
some
historical,
signage
or
landscape
features
whatever
along
it's
going
to
be
called
the
festival
Street
from
here
on
out
and
around
the
building.
H
The
first
thing:
I
thought
it
was
a
basketball
there's,
some
public
art,
there's
things
in
the
in
the
sidewalk
signage
whatnot.
Would
the
neighborhood
association
be
willing
to
assist
or
support
Alpha
in
terms
of
I?
Believe
your
group
has
opportunities
for
neighborhood
grants
to
do
projects
probably
like
that
and
maybe
assist
or
support
Alpha,
to
get
apply
for
some
of
the
neighborhood
grants
to
do
some
of
those
signage
and
wayfinding
Etc
that
you
mentioned.
J
Commissioner
Aguilar
members
of
the
committee
I,
without
speaking
for
the
board,
since
we
haven't
been
able
to
formally
vote
on
something
like
that,
I
will
say
that
preservation,
Idaho,
has
expressed
support
and
interest
in
helping
Alpha
achieve
this
I
know
the
city
of
Boise
has
a
certified.
Local
government
also
has
access
to
funds,
and
things
like
that
that
I
think
if
there
was
Landmark,
designation
or
even
conversations
explored
with
the
city,
that
that's
something
the
city
would
explore
and
consider
in
terms
of
the
Easton
neighborhood
association.
C
K
This
is
my
first
time
attending
a
design.
Review
Committee
I
just
wanted
to
say
first
off
no
hard
feelings
to
any
developers
behind
this
project.
I
appreciate
you
choosing
my
city
as
a
place
to
invest
your
Capital
now
I
just
want
to
waste
no
time
to
immediately
Express
a
few
concerns
with
the
project.
I
feel
I
fear.
The
prices
of
these
apartments
will
be
within
the
unlivable
range
as
I
see
many
of
these
style
of
Apartments
going
up
frequently
as
of
recent.
K
As
someone
who
is
brand
new,
getting
into
the
housing
market
and
I,
would
argue,
it's
not
worth
it
for
these
apartments
that
are
being
slapped
up
with
this
dated
form
of
architecture
that
seemingly
lacks
class
and,
furthermore,
dishonors
a
historic
site.
We're
not
trying
to
look
at
a
hotel
and
if
you
choose
to
do
the
take
of
a
tacky
strip,
mall
Inspire
department,
I,
please
ask
that
you
provide
adequate
tree
cover
and
expand
our
Urban
canopy.
K
The
exterior
cladding,
with
the
warm
with
a
dark
exterior
clouding
with
the
warm
wood
clouding,
is
not
something
that
we
want
really
as
a
city.
I
would
personally
prefer
building
with
large-scale
glass
cladding
and
the
whole
project,
just
really
screams
hotel
and
out
of
place
and
seemingly
in
poor
taste.
In
my
personal
opinion,
I
see
this
project.
K
I
say
this
project
claims
to
be
nodding
to
bits
of
History
to
this
once
great
institution,
but
it
really
seems
performed
with
like
little
class
if
anything
can
be
taken
away
from
my
statement
at
least
plant
more
trees
and
at
least
provide
like
public
art.
Thank.
C
L
Hi
Gordon
trunston
1143,
East,
Santa,
Maria,
Drive,
Boise,
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
actually
for
this,
but
did
we
cover
or
is
traffic
covered
at
all
with
questions
on
this
with
a
designer
review
as
far
as
egress
exits,
Etc
yeah.
C
The
achd
does
a
review
of
the
traffic
impact
for
the
project,
and
maybe
we
can
have
the
applicant
just
give
you
a
quick
nod
to
that
in
their
rebuttal,
too.
Did.
L
C
I
Mr,
chair
and
and
committee.
Thank
you
very
much.
I.
Think
that
just
a
couple
of
couple
of
comments
so
I
think
at
the
very
end
of
Mr
everhart's
shippo
letter,
and
it
was
noted
by
Miss
I'm
sorry,
Cindy
I,
don't
know
how
to
pronounce
your
last
name
but
I
know
Cindy
I
wanted
to
be
respectful,
I
think
the
the
one
of
the
last
sentence
is
which
she
acknowledged
that
the
effects
of
the
building
would
be
limited
and
that
it
would
not
jeopardize
any
of
the
National
Registry
status.
I
I
think
that's
the
most
important
piece
she
is
right.
We've
talked
to
the
to
the
East
End
neighborhood
association.
They
have
talked
about
ability
to
get
art
grants,
work
with
us
to
get
our
grants
and
I
think
the
location,
both
the
plaza
in
front
of
the
Armory
building,
as
well
as
the
festival
street.
Now,
by
the
way,
Miss
Aguilar,
you've
referenced.
Something
and
I
was
unfamiliar
with
it.
The
bass,
something
the
bass
block.
Yes,.
I
Thank
you,
I
want
to
look
at
those
exact
elements,
but
yes,
the
East
End
neighborhood
association
is
has
told
us
that
there
are
our
grants
and
other
things
that
they
would
help
with
letters
of
support
to
try
and
get
those
Elements
Incorporated
integrated
there
and
I
think
that's
that's
a
great
thing.
I
I
appreciate,
Isaac's
personal
personal
opinions
and
as
far
as
Gordon's
comments
regarding
traffic
achd
has
formalized
its
report.
You
have
a
copy
of
their
full
form
of
report
in
front
of
the
Planning
Commission.
We
know
we
knew
at
that
point
verbally
that
there
were
minor
mitigation
measures
that
we
would
Implement
all
of
those
aligning
some
of
the
driveways
with
adjacent
driveways
and
projects
and
and
most,
if
not
all
of
that
has
already
been
incorporated
into
this
site
plan
preemptively.
I
C
B
Just
touching
real
quick
on
the
easement,
the
facade,
easement
I
know
it's
a
process.
That's
been
done
here
on
other
historic
buildings.
B
It
just
protects
the
exterior
of
that
structure,
so
it
can
never
be
modified
other
than
to
you
know,
bring
it
back
up
to
you
know
structural
integrity
and
everything
is
that
something
that
you
guys
would
be
willing
to
explore
with
the
city,
to
put
something
like
that
in
place
and
kind
of
a
on
the
same
vein
that
the
landmark
designation,
I
know
that
that's
been
brought
up
a
couple
times,
so
is
that
something
that
you
guys
are
willing
to
explore
with
this
to
help?
You
know
with
Comfort.
I
Mr,
chair
and
Mr
simply
we
in
response
to
that
same
question
to
the
mayor
and
City
Council
Members
last
night,
the
response
was
I,
don't
fully
understand
what
it
all
entails.
So
furthering
conversations.
Yes,
the
biggest
concern
on
the
landmark
specific
is
whether
or
not
it
would
impact
and
entail
the
the
surface
parking
lot,
let
alone
I
mean
not
just
the
building
in
and
of
itself.
I
I
think
that
one
of
the
comments
on
the
on
the
exterior
facade,
easement,
we've
done
those
in
the
past
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
elements
that
we
expressed
to
the
to
the
city
council
last
night
is
figuring
out
the
the
best
and
most
applicable
way
to
do
that.
I
The
current
dark
windows
that
are
there
versus
just
good,
clean,
clear
windows
with
muttons
and
good
mullions,
and
something
more
historic,
so
I
think
once
the
the
exterior
cladding
is,
is
finalized
to
make
certain
that
then
moving
forward.
It
stays
in
that
form.
I
think
that
would
absolutely
be
an
appropriate
approach.
B
Mr
chair
can
I
follow
up
real,
quick,
so
I
know
that
we're
not
looking
at
the
Redevelopment
of
the
Armory
building
itself
tonight
that
will
come
back
through
a
design
review
Once.
You
guys
have
that
all
figured
out
and
have
anything
that's
proposed
for
the
exterior
improvements.
Any
of.
I
That
so
the
the
Armory
building
as
I
understand
itself
is
not
in
a
designer
View,
and
so
the
the
only
design
review
response,
sorry
Mr,
Mr,
chair
and
Mr.
Simply
the
some
of
the
potential
conditional
uses
or
working
through
the
actual
tenant
improvements
and
and
building
permit
would
be
the
means
and
mechanism
to
do
that.
If
I
understand
that
correctly,
Mr
Wilson.
A
Mr,
chair,
Committee,
Member,
simple,
Dustin's,
correct
the
the
Armory
property
itself
does
not
have
a
designer
view
overlay,
so
conceptually
and
allowed
use
in
the
C2
Zone
could
go
into
that
building
with
no
public
process.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
D
B
I,
think
that
I've
been
here
enough
that
that
site
has
I,
think
the
Eastside
neighborhood
association
and
the
City
of
Boise
in
general
has
been
waiting
for
someone
to
come
in
here
to
do
something
with
that
site,
because
it
is
very
significant
so
and
in
general,
I
think
that
the
plan
looks
very
nice.
I
think
that
there's
adequate,
Landscaping
I
think
that
the
architecture
does
kind
of
hearken
back
to
that.
B
The
existing
structure
there
does
tie
into
some
of
the
materiality
and
and
form
within
the
East
End
neighborhood
association,
I
think
the
trash
enclosure
is
a
little
sticky
just
because
you
can
do
everything
you
want
to
hide
it.
But
you
know
if
you
drive
down
some
of
these
other
apartment
complexes
and
see
where
they
have
a
trash
room
and
where
they
haul
their
bins
in
and
out
of,
it
looks
good
for
a
little
while,
but
it
does
take
a
lot
of
Maintenance
to
keep
it.
Looking
like
that.
B
F
Yeah
Mr
chairman,
this
is
going
to
be
a
question
oriented
your
way.
Josh.
You
have
a
request
for
that
raised
walkway
and
it
looks
like
we're
all
collectively,
as
a
group
planning
to
not
going
with
that
and
using
that
as
more
of
a
venue
for
an
artistic
space
and
letting
it
be
a
little
bit
more
free-flowing.
So
tell
us
why
the
race
space.
A
Mr
chairman
Committee
Member
rudeen,
so
we
developed
that
condition
in
conjunction
with
our
current
planning
team
who
worked
on
the
plan
do
in
development,
so
that
kind
of
came
through
that
process.
There
was
a
desire
to
kind
of
elevate
that
walkway
and
with
a
curb
specifically
for
protection
from
vehicles.
A
I
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
is
not
a
high
traffic
service
drive.
So
if
the,
if
the
committee
desires
to
lower
that
to
the
same
level
as
what
we're
calling
the
festival,
Street,
certainly
not
a
problem,
just
modify
that
condition
appropriately.
You
can.
You
can
add
some
conversation
there
about.
You
know
appropriate
Landscaping
Ballers,
that's
you
know
those
could
be
pedestrian
protection
techniques
other
than
raising
the
walkway,
but
it
was
simply
a
separation
between
the
vehicles
and
the
pedestrians.
F
H
Had
a
quick
follow-up
to
that
conversation,
so
I
I
think
I
understood
you
correctly,
but
I
just
wanted
to
confirm.
There
wasn't
any
like
engineering
or
Public
Works
in
terms
of
storm
water
requirement
for
that
race.
Car.
A
B
B
Look
like
you
know
the
locations
just
so
we
can
ensure
that
the
design
of
that
space
is
creating
the
protection
and
and
kind
of
the
vision
that
I
think
that
you
guys
are
looking
for
and
that's
you
know
just
a
public
work
session
that
we
have
here.
You
can
continue
down
the
road
with
you
plan
production
and
everything.
Maybe
we
can
wrap
it
into
a
50
percent
in
a
work
session
thing.
So
just
I
don't
know
how
does
the
rest
of
the
committee
feel
about
that.
M
M
Go
ahead,
I
think
that
the
we're
on
the
right
track
with
the
work
session
for
the
the
festival,
Street
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
it
will
necessarily
get
used
as
envisioned.
M
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
blank
walls
facing
that
at
The,
Pedestrian
level
and
garage
doors,
and
so
I
I,
don't
see
it
being
activated
in
a
way
that
would
really
benefit
a
festival
street,
but
I
think
that
you
know
there's
not
too
much
harm
and
actually
executing
it
as
such,
and
you
know
if
it's
communicated
as
a
place
for
the
kids
that
live
there
to
go
play
and
then
even
better
I
I
appreciate
about
this
project
that
it's
you
know.
M
It's
been
very
deliberate
with
the
massing
and
the
way
it's
been
kind
of
broken
up
to
appeal
more
to
the
the
neighborhood
scale,
I'm
just
I'm
concerned
with
the
the
materiality
of
the
buildings
you,
you
know,
you
pulled
a
lot
of
examples
from
some
of
the
absolute
newest
houses
in
this
neighborhood
and
that
I
just
I,
don't
see.
M
A
lot
of
you
know,
rationale
to
to
kind
of
the
forms
and
applications
of
your
materials,
so
I
I
just
that
from
a
from
kind
of
a
personal
point
of
view,
but
just
kind
of
from
a
design
principle's
point
of
view.
I
I,
don't
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
clarity
to
your
design
and
I
think
it's
overly
busy
without
any
sort
of
sense
of
logic
to
where
those
materials
are
applied,
or
you
know
how
they
accentuate
forms
or
do
anything
to
really
break
up
the
forms
of
your
building.
M
F
Like
I
get
I
I'll
take
a
stab
at
a
motion
and,
as
part
of
my
motion,
I'm
deliberately
sort
of
staying
out
of
the
weeds
with
trying
to
put
restrictions
on
them
with
regard
to
National
Historic
structures
and
trying
to
create
something
that
I'm
sure
they
may
or
may
not
have
control
over.
Hopefully
they
they're
good
stewards
and
will
continue
that
dialogue
and
do
do
all
the
right
things.
But
it's
hard
for
me
to
look
at
them
and
say
yeah.
F
You
need
to
make
sure
this
is
a
historic
building
or
something
like
that
where
it
just
doesn't
seem
appropriate
to
put
that
restriction
on
at
this
point,
I'll
try
I'll
make
a
shot
at
a
motion
to
say
that
I
move
that
we
accept
drh2200420.
F
With
the
staff's
recommendations,
with
the
exception
of
item
f
and
to
change
the
wording
to
of
that
to
say,
provide
a
pedestrian
pathway
with
or
without
raised
sidewalks
along
that
Street
and
then
they're
continued
with
their
language.
The
pathway
shall
provide
a
protection,
pedestrian
connection
between
reserve
and
Logan
streets.
The
public
accessibility
shall
be
recorded
over
the
public
pathway
and
the
walkway
I'm
asking
that
they
provide
a
walkway
that
works
with
the
East
End
neighborhood
association
to
deploy
historic
educational
opportunities
relating
to
the
neighborhood
and
specifically
the
armory.
C
B
B
F
Would
you
want
that
as
part
of
the
motion
I'm
perfectly
happy
with
with
doing
something
like
that?
You
know
that
pedestrian
pathway
is
a
design
project
all
to
itself
and
we're
asking
him
to
go
off
in
the
weeds
and
do
that.
It
would
be
nice
if
they
came
back
with
that.
So
would
you
like
to
for
me
to
modify
my
motion
to
add
G,
to
include
coming
back
of
50
and
showing
us
the
detail
for
that,
as
well
as
the
rest
of
the
project,
including
exterior
materials?
Yes,.
C
The
other
discussion
moved
and
seconded.
If
not,
we
please
call
the
roll
Christina.
D
C
Next
item
is
item
number
five:
we're
gonna,
hear
it's
Dr
h22.00451
locations,
13863
West,
Meadowdale
streets
for
the
construction
of
a
new,
approximately
five
thousand
nine
hundred
and
fifty
square
foot,
two-story
office,
building,
Associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
and
an
n-o-d
Zone,
and
this
at
this
time
I
would
turn
it
over
to
staff.
N
Excuse
me,
the
property
is
located.
The
property
is
located
in
meal
for
Creek
Business
Park
a
neighborhood
office
complex.
It
is
right
off
North,
Eagle
Road
to
the
south
of
West
Meadowdale
Street.
The
subject
side
is
facing
the
interior
of
the
Business
Park,
which
is
north
south
fronting
West,
Meadowdale
Street.
It
has
a
mixed-use
net
land
use
destination.
N
N
The
building
placement
satisfies
setback
requirements
in
this
Zone.
There
is
no
new
access
created.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
utilize
existing
access
off
from
West
Meadowdale
Street,
with
the
proposed
building
size.
The
medium.
The
minimum
parking
requirement
is
20
stores.
The
designated
parking
space
in
front
of
the
building
provides
12
stores,
including
an
ADA
parking.
The
applicant
requests
the
parking
reduction
and
plans
to
share
parking
with
other
users
in
this
business
park.
The
applicant
has
submitted
the
parking
analysis
in
her
analysis.
N
The
applicant
states
that
the
proposed
use
will
need
10
parking
spaces
total
in
addition
to
the
provided,
12
stores
in
front
of
the
building.
There
are
13
additional
parking
stores
directly
across
the
drive
aisle
adjacent
to
our
existing
building.
N
N
The
applicant
also
submits
original
construction
plan
of
Milford
Creek
Business
Park
and
its
current
CCR,
which
showed
that
the
development
was
part
of
the
original
plan
and
a
shared
parking
situation
will
agreed
amongst
all
the
office
users
based
on
the
submitted
information
staff,
supports
the
request
for
parking
reduction
and
a
proposal
for
sharing
existing
parking
stores.
N
N
Foreign
has
prepared
a
presentation
for
the
building
design,
so
I'm
just
going
to
be
very
brave
on
this
part.
The
proposal
building
is
that
the
maximum
allowed
height
in
this
Zone,
which
is
35
feet.
N
N
N
May
I,
add
condition
sorry
I
forgot
to
mention.
There
are
three
conditions
associated
with
this
approval
condition:
one
comply
with
Boise
city
code
to
select
Class
2
at
or
class
3
species
for
trees
located
in
a
street
landscape
buffer
condition.
Number
two
is
comply
with
Parks
comments
to
provide
details
for
all
the
existing
trees
and
the
mitigation
plan
for
trees
proposed
for
removal.
N
The
applicant
has
submitted
additional
information.
This
Monday
staff
has
reviewed
and
find
all
the
some
submitted
information
satisfied,
condition
number
two
condition:
number
three
comply
with
solid
waste
comments,
submit
a
written
permission
for
using
existing
trash
enclosure
on
a
separate
parcel.
C
O
O
Correct
Jessica,
Payne
1897,
South,
satellite
Way,
Boise
Idaho.
O
Office
building
just
under
6
000
square
feet,
it'll
be
constructed
in.
O
Creek
subdivision
on
Meadowdale
Street
located
just
off
of
Eagle
Road.
Can
you
go
to
the
next
slide
please?
O
So
this
kind
of
shows
a
good
flight
plan
right
off,
Eagle
Road,
where
the
red
rectangle
there
part.
D
O
O
Development
will
be
I
believe
the
last
of
the
sites
to
go
in
there,
so
we'll
complete
the
missing
puzzle,
and
so
our
our
new
building
will
be
facing
the
interior
parking
lot,
where
we
will
have
11
parking
stalls,
one
being
Ada,
we
yeah.
This
is
plenty
for
us,
we'll
need
five
Parking
Salt
and.
D
O
Our
future
tenant
were
proposing
they'll
they'll
meet
at
approximately
five
as
well
being
a
small
office
building.
We
won't
have
the
general
public
commute,
so
we
won't
have
a
need
to
use
any
additional
parking
there,
but
we
do
have
a
shared
parking
agreement
with.
D
O
Entire
subdivision
there
there's
approximately
102
parking
stalled
and
then
about
23
off
streams
between
the
subdivision
there
that
we
can
use-
and
we
have
chatted
with
some
of
the
other
Todd
Campbell
and
other
neighbors
and
they're
fine,
with
using
some
other
parking.
If
there
ever
is
an
issue
with
that,
and
then
we
do
have
a
shared
trash
agreement
and
I
can
forward
on
I
do
have
the
written
documentation
on
that
from
the
ACC
stating
that
we
have
access
to
the
trash
receptacle
there.
That
is
on
site.
G
O
And
then,
on
our
landscape
plan
here
you
can
see
that
there
are
eight
trees
that
we
will
have
to
remove
due
to
construction.
D
O
We
have
consulted
with
arborists
and
so
there's
a
few
species
that
will
seem
to
be
removed
and
we
will
replace
them
with
the
current
caliper
inches
on
the
trees.
We're
proposing
putting
the
new
trees
on
the
North
and
there
right
along.
O
To
kind
of
line
the
street
there
with
the
additional
trees.
O
And
then,
just
as
far
as
placement
on
the
site,
you
know
we
are
aware
that
the
rear
of
our
property
backs
up
to
a
residential
neighborhood
and
a
couple
of
houses
there.
So
you
know
we
pulled
the
building
as
as
close
forward
to
the
sidewalk
as
we
could
minimizing
the
depth
of
our
building
so
that
we
do
have.
O
20
feet
from
the
back
of
our
building
to
the
property
line
where
the
neighbors
are
and.
G
B
O
Far
as
the
back
of
the
design
of
the
back
of
the
building,
he
you
know
limited
the
windows
and
the
size
of
the
windows
to
try
to
give
them
as
much
privacy
as
they
could,
but
also
keep
our
functioning
off
its
building.
O
Some
natural
daylight
in
there
because
of
the
next
slide,
please,
and
then
this
dependence
shows
the
parking.
D
O
Answers
the
floor
plan.
The
vein
level
will
be
currently
built
out
as
a
shell
for
general
office
use
on
the
main
level
and
then
in
the
next
slide,
and
then
the
second
floor
will
be
for
Madden
homes.
Who
is.
O
Subdivision
in
an
existing
building,
and
so
they
will
just
be
moving
across
the
road
to
their
new
building
that
have
all
of
our
seats
and
place
for
for
their
business
there.
So
they
will
occupy
the
entire
second
floor
and
then
next
slide
and
then
the
exterior
of
the
building.
We
have
a
mixture
of
white
stone
and
a
black
Hardie
board,
siding
being
that
we
are
right
next
to
the
residential
neighborhood
and
we
kind
of
tried
to
keep
the
home.
O
We
feel
with
the
fish
grooves
and
the
windows,
and
you
know,
keep
it
to
seal
with,
with
the.
O
That
you
will
be
able
to
see
from
the
road
to
kind
of
just
get
a
little
architectural
decoration
and
detail
on
that
side.
Next
slide,
please,
and
then
it
sticks.
D
O
The
feel
of
the
building
on
on
this
new
site-
and
we
really
appreciate
you
working
with
us
and
you
know,
working
towards
approval
of
this
project
and
I'm
here.
C
C
B
Jessica
I
had
a
question
in
regards
to
the
neighbor's
concerns
about
privacy
there
just
to
the
west
of
this
project,
with
the
the
amount
of
space
you
have
between
the
west
side
of
your
building
and
the
property
line,
it
looks
like
there's
probably
the
opportunity
to
plant
some
additional
trees
for
buffering
between
those
offices
and
I.
Think
primarily,
you
know
the
second
floor
offices
with
the
windows
facing
that
way.
B
O
Want
any
more
Bella
white
being
blocked
from
that,
so
yeah.
G
B
C
Is
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
to
this
item
and
we
got
a
couple
on
the
sign
up
sheets?
So
sorry,
prior
three
we'll
start
with
Miss
Winfrey.
Please.
E
Good
evening,
I'm
new
at
this
I'm,
the
owner
of
4346,
North,
Chapala
way
and
I,
have
two
concerns.
One
is
the
solar
panels.
This
building
will
likely
limit
a
lot
of
the
solar
that
my
tenant
is
using
and
is
feeding
back
into
the
grid,
but
also
I'm
mostly
concerned
about
the
Privacy.
It
looks
directly
over
my
lot.
I
don't
have
the
computer
ability,
but
I
have
a
copy
of
my
lot
and
it's
all
of
the
this
whole
side
will
be
this
building
and
it's
not
35
feet.
E
E
So
the
and
my
tenant
is
here
to
speak
as
well
and
he
can
speak
to
traffic
as
another
issue,
I
highly
recommend
a
traffic
study
is
done
on
this
street
as
I.
Don't
live
there,
but
I
go
by
from
time
to
time,
and
that
is
not
what
traffic
looks
like
on
that
street
at
all.
In
fact,
if
you
look,
Eagle
Road
doesn't
have
any
cars
on
it.
The
the
both
sides
of
that
street
are
totally
blocked.
There's
a
my
lot
has
a
in
the
front
corner
has
a
fire
hydrant
and.
E
There's
barely
there's
also
the
irrigation
canal
on
the
see
South,
no
south
side
of
the
property,
so
that
needs
to
be
available
for
it's
easement
as
well
and
then
on
the
other
side
of
the
lot
is
the
fire
hydrant,
which
makes
it
unusable
for
that.
If
there's
cars
parked
everywhere
for
the
fire
department,
so
these
concerns
are
big.
E
C
P
Mr
chair
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
I
live
at
4346,
North
Chipola
way.
My
house
is
right,
directed
to
the
West
over
this
proposed
building
is
going
to
be
erected.
P
My
concern
is
the
security
on
my
backyard.
I
have
a
young
17
year
old
daughter
and
my
wife
and
myself
live
there.
We
occupy
the
house
and
the
the
site
that
I'm
looking
at
the
windows.
Obviously
looking
down
on
my
property,
creates
a
big
concern
from
it
for
me
that
that
is
one
of
my
biggest
issues
and
that's
the
reason
I'm
here
tonight.
The
other
issue
that
I
have
is
the
parking
on
that
street,
as
that
picture
demonstrates
there's.
P
That
is
not
a
an
accurate
representation
of
what
goes
on
there
during
the
business
hours
of
these
businesses
that
are
operating
there.
The
parking
lot
that
they're
proposing
to
use
are
co-use
with
the
silk
touch
business.
That
is
already.
There
is
at
full
capacity
already
with
just
the
business
that
operates
that
so
I
don't
see
how
these
people
are
going
to
occupy
some
of
those
spaces
when
it's
already
at
Max
Capacity
the
street.
For
me,
I
have
to
place
my
my
trash
receptacles
on
metaldale
the
trash.
P
That's
the
only
spot,
I'm
the
only
house
on
that
street
that
has
a
trash
collection
on
Meadowdale
and
on
Mondays.
When
trash
comes,
it's
either.
I
have
to
put
my
trash
out
on
Friday
or
I'm,
not
going
to
have
a
place
to
put
my
trash
receptacles
out.
I've
had
a
couple
instances
was
my
trash.
I
was
not
collected
due
to
the
proximity
with
vehicles
that
were
parked
on
the
street
and
a
couple
instances.
P
I've
walked
to
the
business
across
the
street
from
my
house
to
ask
them
to
please
move
their
vehicle
so
that
I
can
have
access
to
the
street,
and
the
my
biggest
thing
right
now
is
on
the
on
the
fence
line
on
the
property
on
the
proposed
property.
P
There
there's
already
four
trees
that
provide
plenty
of
of
coverage
on
that
one
side
to
the
house
and
if,
if
they
can
leave
them
there,
that
would
be
great
because
it
would
provide
us
with
with
the
Privacy
that
we
already
have
there
and
and
then
the
windows
that
they
can
modify
or
change
something
so
that
the
windows
are
not
looking
directly
onto
my
backyard.
C
Q
My
name
is
Dustin
Hadfield
I
live
at
7000
North
Pollard
Lane,
which
is
in
Meridian
I,
actually
am
part
of
the
applicant
I
work
for
Madden
homes.
We
actually
our
office
is,
if
you
look
directly
across
the
street
directly
across
from
Meadowdale
that
furthest
East
parking
lot.
That's
our
office
where
we
are
now
so
obviously
we
understand
the
the
parking
for
the
complex
because
we're
there
currently
part
of
that,
and
we
we
had
this
concern.
Moving
forward
was
okay.
Q
What's
parking,
gonna
look
like
with
an
additional
office
space
so,
as
Jessica
mentioned,
there's
a
cross
access
agreement
with
the
whole
complex
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
go
back
to
that
parking
analysis,
so
we
actually
went
and
discussed
it
with
silk
touch
and
Todd
Campbell
who's.
Another
tenant,
it's
basically
anyone
that
we
would
come
in
contact
with
and
have
come
to.
Q
Basically
the
the
idea
that
employee
parking
would
be
optimized
in
different
spaces,
not
necessarily
directly
in
front
of
each
individual
building.
Silk
touch
is
the
only
or
the
main
tenant
in
there.
That
has
a
lot
of
customers
coming
in
and
out,
whereas
the
building
that
we're
in
now
Todd
Campbell's
building,
as
well
as
our
proposed
future
building,
would
be
just
the
individuals
that
are
obviously
working
there
as
we
speak
so
kind
of
going
back
to
what
the
concern
was
with
a
parking
analog
or
a
traffic
analysis.
Q
Achd
has
already
done
that
and
has
provided
us
their
reply
to
what
we've
proposed
and
the
amount
of
units
that
we've
actually
proposed.
We're
sticking
within
the
guidelines
that
we
were
given
through
the
initial
development
agreement
for
the
actual
complex
we're
not
exceeding
any
of
that
we're
sticking
with
what
was
already
there
and
what
was
available
for
the
privacy
concerns.
Like
Jessica
stated,
we
had
an
arborist
come
out
and
actually
do
an
analysis
on
all
of
the
trees
to
figure
out
what
trees
were
healthy.
Q
Q
All
those
trees
down
and
then
obviously
the
building
itself
with
the
windows
and
egress
and
things
on
the
back
side
since
I'm
across
the
street
I
obviously
walked
over
and
was
looking
at
what
the
Privacy
actually
looks
like
so
there's
about
eight
arborvitaes
that
are
roughly
15
to
20
feet,
tall
that
are
in
the
single
family,
residential's
backyard.
As
we
speak
as
a
barrier.
The
only
window
on
that
side
of
their
house
is
already
obscured.
G
Q
Glass,
we
I'm
trying
to
be
amicable
and
try
and
figure
out
what
steps
we
can
take
with.
You
know,
trees
and
things
like
that,
but
that's
kind
of
what
we've
looked
at
and
tried
to
figure
out
what
would
be
the
best
scenario
and
I
think
what
we've
come
up
with
would
kind
of
fit
that
the
best.
So
thanks
thank.
G
It
was
really
cold
the
day,
but
I
did
have
to
pick
some
photographs
of
what
the
street
like
looks
like,
and
what
silk
touches
parking
lot
looks
like
with
traffic.
Okay,
if
you'd
like
to
see
them,
I
don't
have
the
computers.
Oh.
C
That's
fine,
we
can,
if
you
would
mind
just
starting
at
the
end
and
we
can
pass
those
down
and
take
a
quick
look
through
your
printed
photos.
G
C
Well,
we
circulate
those.
Is
there
any
other
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
anybody
online
Josh
with
none?
Okay?
Would
the
applicant
like
to
make
some
further
comments
at
this
time,
then
Miss
Petty.
O
Yes,
I
would
I
would
just
kind
of
like
to
you
know
clarify
you
know
come
around
with
what
Dustin
said.
You
know
we
made
some
really
great
points.
O
O
Think
you
know
putting
a
scared,
glass
or
removing
them
would
really.
O
Really
make
our
building
suffer.
I
do
feel
that
you
know
there
are.
There
are
a
lot
of
trees.
You
know
the
the.
G
O
Into
their
backyard,
you.
O
O
To
be
built
here
and
I
think
that
it
complies.
G
O
Everything
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
project
and
you
know
we've
worked
really
hard
on
it,
but
you
know
I.
We
just
hope
you
support
us
in
it
as
well.
That's
all
thank
you.
C
H
Mr,
chair
Meadowdale
is
a
public
right-of-way,
so
this
committee
doesn't
really
have
any
Authority
on
parking.
That's
it's
achd
right
away.
So
it's
just
more
of
a
comment
or
a
recommendation
that
if
there's
a
concern
about
parking
and
especially
near
the
driveway
which
I
would
be
to
to
reach
out
to
achd
and
I,
think
they
could
help
you
mitigate,
maybe
some
of
the
challenges
you
have
with
on
trash
day
and
whatnot.
So
that's
just
more
of
a
statement.
Thank
you.
D
M
Yes,
I
I
think
that
you
know
it.
It's
always
difficult
to
see
our
our
our
backyards
have
new
new
masses
peeking
over
the
fences
but
I
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
think
you
know
if
this
were
a
residential
zoning
in
the
back.
M
This
would
be
completely
within
Downs
as
far
as
a
building
mass
building
form
like
everything
about
it,
including
all
the
windows
and
you
know,
I-
think
the
fact
that
they
all
branches
extended
I
mean
we
can't
plant
olives
here,
but
the
the
fact
that
efforts
were
made
to
to
increase
the
the
amount
of
privacy
provided
by
Landscaping
elements
in
the
backyard
which
was
not
accepted,
I
I,
don't
see
any
reason
why
we
should
decrease
the
size
of
the
fenestrations.
M
When
you
know
outside
of
a
an
nod
as
it
is,
we
would
have
nothing
to
say
about
a
building
exactly
like
this.
Going
in
this
exact
spot,
Mr.
B
G
C
Other
comments
from
committee,
you're
still
I,
think
I'd
agree
with
that
too.
It's
I
think
from
an
office
use
versus
a
residential
use
in
your
backyard.
I
think
I'd
rather
have
an
office
because
it's
partially
occupied,
usually
those
West
Windows,
have
blinds
down
most
of
the
time
because
of
the
late
Summer
Sun
again
I
guess
we'd
encourage
the
applicant
to
continue
conversations
with
the
adjacent
residential
property
owner
on
any
means
necessary
to
provide
any
privacy.
C
But
it
also
looks
like
this
footprint
and
the
development
fits
the
original
plan
for
Mill
Creek
they're
very
closely.
B
Chair,
yes,
yeah
I'd,
concur
with
that,
and
additionally,
it
looks
like
the
way
that
that
building
is
cited
on
that
property.
Really
just
the
Northwest
Office
Space
is
really
the
one
that's
closest
to
that
residence
with
the
second
floor
balcony
and
everything
else
being
on
the
south
end
really
they're.
Looking
at
that
Canal
so
to
me,
I
mean
they're.
If
they
moved
a
tree
or
kept
a
tree
at
that,
northwest
corner
looks
like
maybe
there's
one
that
could
remain.
F
I
did
hear
staff
say
that
they
have
maybe
come
in
compliance
with
a
couple
of
items
on
their
list
there,
but
I
don't
think
removing
any
of
them
at
this
point
would
negate
whether
they
bring
compliance
or
not
so
I'm
going
to
move
to
approved,
drh
2200451
is
recommended
in
the
findings
of
fact,
inclusions
of
Law
and
recommended
conditions
of
approval
noted
in
the
project
report.
Okay,.
C
D
C
Next
item
that
we'll
hear
tonight
is
item
number
seven
number:
seven
is
drh
23-00001
locations,
8924
West,
Franklin;
it's
for
the
construction
of
a
new,
approximately
6770
square
foot
story;
Car,
Wash,
building,
Associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
in
nm1d
zone.
This
point
I
turned
over
to
Caitlyn
and
staff.
R
R
The
applicant
is
proposing
the
car
wash
building
at
the
southeast
of
the
site
and
two
future
pad
sites.
The
future
buildings
will
require
new
designer
view
approvals
and
the
parking
and
vacuum
area
is
located
north
of
the
building,
but
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
utilize
one
driveway
on
Franklin
Road
and
one
on
Maple
Grove
Road.
A
condition
of
approval
also
requires
the
applicant
to
Grant
cross
access
to
the
property
to
the
east.
R
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
remove
the
existing
trees
along
the
street
and
there
are
a
number
of
existing
mature
trees,
especially
along
Franklin,
and
they
have
provided
a
tree
mitigation
plan
indicating
that
213
caliber
inches
of
mitigation
are
required
and
Boise
forestry
indicated
they
agree.
With
this
assessment,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
plant
169
caliber
inches
of
trees
on
the
site
as
part
of
this
application,
and
then
those
future
pad
sites
will
each
plant
an
additional
22
inches
of
trees
for
those
future
buildings.
R
R
R
The
building
design
is
similar
to
other
car
wash
buildings
that
have
been
constructed
in
Boise
and
the
masking
and
design
is
appropriate
for
an
industrial
Zone.
The
bottom
elevation
is
the
South
elevation
facing
Franklin
Road.
The
applicant
has
provided
changes
in
height,
a
variety
of
materials,
windows
and
awnings
to
provide
design
interest.
R
The
applicant
would
like
to
discuss
two
of
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval.
The
planning
team
has
recommended
the
applicant
construct
detached
sidewalk
along
Maple,
Grove
and
Franklin
Road,
and
also
work
on
finalizing
the
internal
pedestrian
walkway
locations,
with
connections
to
both
Franklin
Road
and
Maple
Grove
Road,
due
to
the
challenges
of
the
site,
topography,
both
recommended
conditions
would
allow
administrative
modifications
to
these
requirements
if
the
applicant
could
prove
could
prove
that
they
are
not
feasible.
R
The
planning
team
believes
that
detached
sidewalks
adjacent
to
arterial
roadways
such
as
Franklin
and
Maple
Grove
are
imperative
to
providing
a
comfortable
pedestrian
environment
that
encourage
walking
and
alternative
transportation
on
these
higher
traffic
streets.
The
current
conditions
do
not
provide
a
pleasant
pedestrian
experience
and
deter
people
from
walking.
R
Pedestrian
connections
at
both
the
Northwest
and
Southeast
ensure
pedestrians
have
a
convenient
path
that
is
more
likely
to
be
utilized,
and
the
applicant
would
like
to
present
some
additional
information
in
regard
to
the
site,
topography
and
their
proposals,
and
we
did
also
receive
some
written
comments
and
I
believe
there
are
some
public
attending
tonight
that
would
like
to
discuss
the
project
I
believe
their
concerns
are
related
to
the
car
wash
use
and
the
noise
associated
with
it,
and
with
that
I
can
stand
for
questions
or
we
can
hear
from
the
applicant
team.
Thank.
C
You
Caitlin
questions
for
staff
at
the
moment,
see
none.
Thank
you
as
African
presents.
If
you
would
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
S
Thank
you
good
evening,
Stephanie
Hopkins,
with
Cam
engineering,
5725,
North
Discovery
way
in
Boise.
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
members
of
the
committee
I'm
here
representing
the
developer
and
our
client
on
the
site.
You
might
have
to
help
me
go
to
the
next
slide,
but
Caitlyn
did
a
really
great
job
of
summarizing
our
request.
This
is
industrially.
Zoned
we're
requesting
a
car
wash
use
which
is
permitted
in
this
Zone
and
the
main
topics
that
we'd
like
to
discuss
with
you
tonight
are
pedestrian
connectivity
related.
So
next
slide
please.
S
S
The
existing
structures
on
the
site
are
going
to
be
removed
if
the
car
wash
is
constructed
in
the
future,
so
there's
one
home
and
then
I
think
several
outbuildings
the
site
is
pretty
hilly,
I
I'm
sure
most
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
area
as
you're
driving
on
Maple,
Grove
or
Franklin.
You
can
see
that
it's
kind
of
down
in
a
hole
and
it's
been
undeveloped-
I've
lived
in
Boise,
my
whole
life
and
it's
been
undeveloped
since
I've
been
around
so
I.
Think
next
slide
and
I'll
show
you
the
site
plan.
S
So,
as
Caitlyn
mentioned,
we're
going
to
be
locating
the
proposed
building
at
the
southeast
corner
of
the
site,
there
will
be
three
stacking
lanes
for
vehicles
as
they
enter.
The
car
wash
two
points
of
Access
One
from
Maple
Grove
and
one
from
Franklin
achd
is
conditioned
to
save
written
a
staff
report
stating
that
those
will
be
right
in
right
out
accesses,
so
Vehicles
can
enter
in
through
Franklin
and
continue
to
the
queuing
Lane
go
through
the
car
wash.
S
That
could
either
continue
to
the
vacuum
stalls
that
are
provided
or
they
could
go
north
and
then
West
out
to
Maple,
Grove
or
South
again
to
Franklin.
We
are
the
building,
is
about
6
800
square
feet
and
we're
proposing
to
locate
Four
Standard
Parking
stalls
on
site
for
employees,
there'll
be
one
Ada
stall
and
23
drying
station
stalls.
S
Staff
did
have
some
comments
on
landscape
buffers,
so
we've
made
a
couple
changes
to
the
first
step
or
the
first
site
plan
that
was
submitted
and
lost
a
couple
of
drying
stalls
I
think
that
pretty
much
covers
it
on
the
site
plans.
The
next
slide,
please,
the
landscape
plan,
as
mentioned,
will
be
mitigating
trees
and
complying
with
landscape
buffers
as
required,
and
then
including
lots
of
vegetative
ground
cover
entries
as
well
next
slide.
S
So
this
is
a
concept
plan
that
we
developed
after
talking
with
staff
about
what
what
buildings
could
locate
and
kind
of
what
the
site
design
would
look
like
for
future
development.
Nothing
solid
right!
Now
they
don't
have
any
planned
tenants
or
anything
that
would
come
here
in
the
future,
but
this
does
depict
future
connectivity
how
the
site
could
lay
out
and
where
buildings
might
be
located
in
relation
to
pedestrian
connectivity
and
other
vehicular
connections.
S
So
next
slide,
please:
the
building
elevations
are
designed
to
integrate
and
be
compatible
with
existing
development
in
the
area
while
conforming
to
the
city
of
Boise's
design,
standards
and
guidelines,
we're
proposing
a
mix
of
materials
including
natural
Limestone,
burnished,
CMU,
Cedar,
rendition,
metal
cladding
among
other
finishes,
and
the
color
scheme
will
be
kind
of
more
of
an
Earth
Tone
with
Browns
Tans
and
other
kind
of
softer
tones
to
hopefully
blend
in
with
the
area
as
well
as
we
can.
The
architect,
I
believe,
is
on
the
line
too.
S
So
if
there
are
any
questions
related
to
the
building
design
that
you
might
have,
they
can
kind
of
chime
in
on
that.
So,
as
Caitlyn
mentioned,
we
are
requesting
next
slide.
Please
we
are
requesting
to
to
modify
a
couple
of
the
conditions
that
she's
included
in
her
staff
report,
we're
in
agreement
with
the
bulk
of
the
staff
report
and
the
conditions
that
are
included.
S
These
ones
are
primarily
related
to
the
existing
site
conditions
and
how
difficult
it
would
be
to
comply
with
The
Pedestrian
connections
requested.
So
the
first
one
is
site,
specific
condition
1C,
which
is
to
construct
a
minimum.
Five
foot
wide
detached
sidewalk
separated
from
the
curb
by
a
minimum
eight
foot
wide
landscape
strip
along
Franklin,
Road
and
Maple
Grove
Road.
S
The
applicant
May
submit
additional
information
regarding
topography
challenges
for
planning
team
consideration
and
this
condition
may
be
removed
or
modified,
we're
requesting
that
it
be
removed
from
the
staff
report,
and
that
is
primarily
due
to
the
fact
that
there's
already
existing
sidewalk
here
if
you'll
go
one
forward,
I
think
I
have
some
pictures
that
I'll
show
you
so
yes
I
sloped
significantly.
This
is
Maple
Grove,
looking
South
as
you're
kind
of
at
the
bottom
of
the
site.
S
It
slips
significantly
as
you
go
towards
the
southwest
corner
next
slide,
and
this
is
from
Franklin
Road
kind
of
looking
up
at
the
site.
Looking
West
in
the
next
one-
and
this
is
going
to
be
at
the
intersection
of
Maple
Grove
in
Franklin.
As
you
can
see,
there's
already
five
foot
sidewalk
along
the
entire
Frontage
of
the
site,
and
but
these
pictures
don't
show
well,
is
that
on
the
other
side
of
that
barrier
it
actually
drops
off
significantly.
S
The
West
part
of
the
site
is
a
little
challenging,
there's
a
fair
amount
of
easements
there's
a
pretty
large
Idaho,
Power
easement,
as
well
as
some
large
power
poles
and
some
other
things
that
would
inhibit.
If
we
had
to
bring
the
sidewalk
into
the
site
far
enough
to
make
it
work,
it
would
inhibit
future
development
of
the
site
on
that
side
as
well
as
along
Franklin.
So
that's
the
primary
reason
we're
we're
asking
for
this
condition
to
be
removed.
Pedestrian
connectivity
is
really
important.
S
We
agree,
and
in
this
case
the
facilities
already
exist,
so
it'd
be
a
great
opportunity
to
utilize.
Those
so
next
slide.
Second
condition
that
we're
requesting
to
be
modified
is
connections
from
Maple,
Grove
and
Franklin
into
the
site.
You'll
go
to
the
next
more
pictures,
but
this
is
the
conceptual
design
plan
that
we
put
together
kind
of
showing
what
future
development
would
look
like
I've
highlighted
because
I
feel,
like
Caitlyn,
did
where
the
pathways
exist
or
we're
proposing
them.
S
So
we
would
propose
to
bring
one
in
from
Maple
Grove
into
the
site
and
then
South
into
where
there
might
be
a
future
building
and
then
eventually
the
car
wash
and
access
from
Franklin
or
pedestrian
access
from
Franklin
would
be
tricky
because
it's
really
hilly
there
and
in
order
to
get
a
ramp
to
comply
with
ADA
requirements,
it'd
be
a
fair
amount
of
switchbacks
of
an
exhibit
I.
Think
next.
That
shows
this
is
again
another
picture.
S
So
this
this
shows
exactly.
You
know
how
far
down
it
does
drop
from
Franklin
Road.
This
is
the
exhibit
that
Caitlyn
showed
a
little
bit
ago
and
then
the
next
one
shows.
In
order
to
get
this
to
work
for
ADA
requirements,
we
would
have
to
bring
the
pathway
in
go
about
65
feet
to
the
west
and
then
go
down
North
a
little
bit
more
and
then
68
feet
to
the
east
to
be
able
to
get
folks
I.
S
Think
it's
like
60
feet
or
something
from
the
building
to
the
road,
but
they'd
have
to
travel.
You
know
150
feet
to
get
down
to
that
location
so
because
this
is
a
vehicle-oriented
use
and
because
of
the
site
topography,
we
think
it's
appropriate
to
modify
that
condition
to
not
require
a
pathway
connection
from
Franklin.
Specifically,
that
being
said,
I
think,
with
the
exhibit
that
Caitlyn
was
looking
at
earlier.
S
With
her
request
to
have
the
pathway
extend
further
to
the
east
probably
makes
some
sense
and
I
think
that
the
applicant
would
probably
be
amenable
to
changing
their
plan
to
accommodate
that
I'm,
not
sure
about
the
pathway
that
would
cross
the
queuing
lane
for
the
car
wash.
But
if
that's
something
we
could
work
with
staff
after
if
we
receive
approval
tonight,
if
that's
something
we
request,
staff
on
I
think
we
would
be
amenable
to
that
and
appreciate
that
coordination.
S
So
next
slide
I
think-
and
this
is
just
another
graphic,
showing
exactly
how
one
more
and
it'll
show
you
how
it
drops
down.
So
that's
about
60
feet
and
it
drops
down
from
a
five
foot
sidewalk
that
exists
significantly
down
to
the
building,
as
it
switch
backs
across
that
buffer.
So
I
think
that
that
pretty
much
summarizes
our
request
and
I
we'll
think
we
think
it's
going
to
be
a
really
great
addition
to
this
area.
S
It'll
provide
a
nice
convenient
service
to
people
over
here
and
it's
appropriate
for
the
zoning
District.
So
I'll
stand
for
questions.
If
you
have
them,
I
know
that
our
client
is
on
the
line
as
well
as
the
architect
and
I
think
we
might
have
a
landscape
architect
available
too.
So
the
whole
development
teams
here
great.
H
C
H
So
Stephanie
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
you
correctly.
I
agree
that
that
ramp
location
as
proposed
is
not
a
good
idea,
but
I
want
I.
Think
you
said
that
you
would
be
the
applicant.
The
owner
would
be
agreeable
to
maybe
exploring
the
sidewalk
to
the
east
on
the
other
side
of
the
driveway
aisle.
Is
that
correct.
S
H
Oh
okay
and
I
guess
I
would
I
would
expand
on
that
to
explore
that
East
sidewalk.
If
you
will
coming
from
Franklin
I'm
thinking
that
the
grade
change
going
east
will
help
you
and
it
might
be
possible,
but
you
could
just
have
a
straight
shot
and
then
connect
to
the
Future
building
instead
of
having
going
across
the
exit
of
the
car
wash
but
again
with
that
benefit
of
seeing
the
Topo
it
looks
like
it
could
be
accomplished.
But
again
your
team
would
need
to
review
that.
Okay.
S
S
D
C
Other
questions
for
applicants
at
the
moment.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
We
do
have
one
sign
up:
Sean
Davis,
you
would
like
come
forward
and
State
state
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
T
My
name
is
Sean
Davis.
We
live
at
8828,
Clovis,
Drive,
Boise,
Idaho
and
Mr
chairman
and
committee
members.
I
just
wanted
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
this
particular
project.
The
first
concern
I
have
a
little
bit
is
and
I'm
probably
just
ignorant
of
the
rules
of
but
notification
I
know
I've
gotten
over
the
years.
T
Many
many
many
notifications
of
properties
near
that
would
impact
properties
that
I've
owned,
and
we
never
heard
anything
about
this
project
whatsoever
other
than
I
caught
wind
of
it
through
my
son,
who
happened
to
hear
about
it
from
the
Boise
Dev
guy,
but
and
we
are
located
right
across
the
street
across
Franklin
up
on
the
hill
in
a
home
that
we
worked,
our
whole
lives
to
acquire
in
the
tax
assessor
seems
to
think
it's
pretty
valuable
piece
of
property
and
and
I'm
afraid
that
our
property
value
might
go
down
a
little
bit
and,
of
course,
at
the
risk
of
sounding
like
every
other,
not
my
backyard
guy.
T
We
do
have
some
real
concerns
because
we
love
our
home
moments,
it's
open
and
Airy,
and
we
turn
on
our
air
conditioner,
maybe
10
times
a
year,
and
we
have
our
windows
open,
constantly
three
seasons
of
the
year
and
I
I,
don't
know
about
you,
but
I'm,
not
sure
anybody
on
this
day
is,
would
like
to
have
a
car
wash
a
thousand
feet
from
their
house,
because
when
they
fire
up
those
blowers
and
it's
pretty
horrendous
noise
along
with
the
23
vacuum
stations,
it
can
get
really
really
loud.
T
So
I
I
have
some
concerns
about
mostly
the
sound
and
how
far
down
in
that
pit
it's
going
to
be,
which
would
help
mitigate
sound
and
how
much
trees
they'll
have
on
the
street
level,
but
but
also
just
one
more
two
big
giant
sets
of
signs
that
I
have
to
look
at
out
my
master
bedroom
window.
That
say
car
wash
car
wash
you
know
and
and
if
the
profile
of
the
building
is
lower
than
the
street
level.
T
That's
that
won't
be
an
issue,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
because
I
this
is
the
first
I've
seen
the
plans,
but
mostly
I'm,
really
really
concerned
about
the
level
of
noise
and
and
somewhat
I
think
it's
kind
of
Impractical
to
try
and
put
this
application
in
an
area
with
that
steep
of
egress
and
Ingress
trying
to
get
in
and
off
for
Franklin
Road
and
you've
got
a
wet
car
coming
out
of
car
wash
and
you're
trying
to
get
up
that
hill
to
get
onto
Franklin
and
turn
right
again
and
I.
T
I
hope,
I'm,
corrected,
I
heard
that
they're
both
right
in
right
out,
because
because
the
other
thing
is
the
traffic
at
Fairview,
I
mean
excuse
me
Franklin
and
Maple
Grove
is
horrendous.
You
know
we
years
ago
we
go.
Oh
it's
Christmas
time.
We
can't
even
get
out
of
our
neighborhood
and
go
to
down
Franklin,
because
everybody's
going
the
mall.
Now
it's
every
day
of
the
week,
we
can
get
pull
on
to
Maple
Grove
and
stop
dead
and
not
get
through
the
intersection
for
three
lights
before
we
can
get
through
at
Maple
Grove
in
Franklin.
T
T
That's
my
son's
thing
to
worry
about,
because
we're
going
to
live
there
until
we
die,
but
just
the
the
the
quality
of
life,
the
sound
issue-
and
you
know
it
might
be
a
moot
point-
I,
don't
know,
but
I
I
know
I
stood
by
the
Mister
Car
Wash
on
on
Eagle,
Road
and
Pine,
and
you
can
hear
that
thing
for
blocks
away
and
we're
just
right
across
the
street
up
on
the
hill.
So
any
questions
for
me.
Otherwise,
that's
pretty
much.
My
just.
C
Just
to
clarify
you're
on
basically
the
south
east
corner
of
the
intersection
we.
T
We
are
in
a
couple
houses
closer
to
where
they're
putting
the
car
wash
to
the
east
on
the
property.
There's
a
triangle
piece
right
on
the
very
corner,
or
not
the
very
corner,
but
the
big
triangle
piece
where
the
large
piece
next
to
it:
six
tenths
of
an
acre
right
next
to
it.
T
Okay-
and
we
have
pretty
nice
unobscripted
unobscure
view
of
from
Butte
clear
around
the
Table
Rock,
it's
pretty
fantastic,
View
and
piece
of
property,
but
it
will
lend
itself
to
some
noise
carrying
up
there,
not
having
a
lot
of
trees
blocking,
but.
C
They're
near
other
members
of
public
wishing
to
testify
on
this
item
here
tonight,
either
in
person
or
virtually
see
none
of
person
any
virtually
Josh.
Okay,
we
thought
we'd
invite
that
Apple
came
back
or
any
other
further
comments
and
yes.
S
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
Stephanie
Hopkins,
for
the
record,
appreciate
Sean's
comments
as
far
as
noise
and
potential
mitigations
to
his
his
worries
about
the
impacts
that
the
car
wash
will
have
it's
the
one
thing
that's
working
in
our
favor
is
the
fact
that
it
is
kind
of
down
in
a
hole,
so
the
impact
to
his
view
shouldn't
be
an
issue.
It
will
also
help
to
hopefully
buffer
some
of
the
noise
and
other
other
impacts
that
the
car
wash
would
have.
S
Traffic
is
one
thing
that
obviously
is
going
to
be
increased
with
this
use.
I
think
luckily,
achd's
conditions
requiring
a
writing
right
out
at
both
access
points
will
help
to
mitigate
some
of
the
conflicts
that
can
occur
with
this
kind
of
a
use
and
then,
as
far
as
we'll
make
the
grade
work,
I
mean
it's
obviously
not
an
ideal
site
for
a
lot
of
uses
and
I.
Think
that
might
be
part
of
why
that
the
warehouse
building
that
was
before
you
last
year
didn't
go
forward.
S
But
that's
that's
why
we
have
a
good
team
of
Engineers
looking
at
this
project
and
we'll
make
sure
that
it's
viable
for
our
client
and
that
it
works
well
for
everyone
that
will
be
utilizing.
It
that'll
be
one
of
the
main
reasons
that
we
want
it
to
work,
because
so
people
want
to
keep
coming
back.
So
with
that
I'll
stand
for
any
questions,
we
look
forward
to
working
with
the
city
more
on
this
project
and
would
appreciate
your
approval
of
it
tonight.
Yeah.
C
Just
had
a
couple
of
just
clarifications
just
to
make
sure
that
our
assumptions
are
true.
So
the
entrance
is
from
the
west
and
the
exits
on
the
East,
and
would
it
be
correct
to
say
that
the
drier
blowers
around
the
East
Side
exit
side
of
the
tunnel,
the
car
wash
tunnel.
S
S
C
C
S
B
Mr
chair,
yes,
as
a
follow-up,
if,
if
the
alternative
to
creating
detached
sidewalks
along
Maple,
Grove
and
Franklin,
was
to
figure
out
a
ramp
or
stair
down
from
Franklin,
which
offers
an
alternative
route
past,
that
intersection
is
that
you
feel
like
the
the
applicant
could
be
amenable
to
that
or
the
developer
could
be
amenable
to
that.
Mr.
S
Chair
Committee,
Member,
simple
I,
think
I
could
certainly
talk
to
our
client
about
that.
I
think
he
might
be
beyond
the
line,
but
just
to
make
sure
I
understand.
Are
you
talking
about
it?
The
the
corner,
the
intersection
actually
and
playing
stairs
there,
or
are
you
Mr.
S
H
B
The
site
that,
if
that
was
either
ramp
or
stair
in
that
location,
that
facilitated
a
pedestrian
walkway
from
Franklin
over
to
Maple
Grove
through
the
site,
rather
than
having
pedestrians,
walk
along
a
sidewalk
just
trying
to
figure
out
because
yeah
challenge
there's
challenges
with
detaching
sidewalk.
It
looks
like
obviously
you
guys
are
going
to
be
working
through
some
stuff
to
demonstrate
that
to
the
city,
but
trying
to
find
an
alternative,
because
with
pedestrian
Comfort
being
very
top
on
the
list
with
the
city,
you
know
trying
to
find
alternatives
to
that.
F
D
S
F
It
goes
to
this
blocking
with
signage
and
just.
S
F
S
S
C
C
S
Chair
I
hadn't
heard
of
that
option,
but
I'll
talk
to
them
about
that
sounds
like
a
nice
feature,
foreign.
C
Oh
there's
an
online
great
I
guess:
did
you
have
a
question
from
online
or
is
that
the
is
the
applicant
okay
I?
Think
when
you,
whenever
you're
ready
online,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
U
Kyle
Benson
1044
North,
Highway,
91,
Shelley,
Idaho
yeah.
We
we
do
install
the
the
heated
concrete
or
the
the
purpose
that
you
were
just
talking
about
to
keep
the
the
drive
aisles
clean
and
safe
great.
U
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
touch
on
real,
quick,
I
I,
don't
know
that
Stephanie
had
the
information,
but
as
far
as
the
road
noise
and
the
the
noise
coming
from
the
car
wash
generally
speaking
outside
of
the
building,
the
decibel
level
is
78
75
78,
both
at
the
entrance
and
the
exit,
which
that's
just
barely
a
little
bit
more
than
what
a
busy
street
is
at
70.
U
In
addition
to
that,
this,
like
Stephanie's
explained
the
the
building
is
going
to
be
kind
of
tucked
away,
we're
going
to
have
the
vegetation
and
I
don't
think
being
across
the
street,
where
the
residences
are
that
you
will
even
hear
much
if
any
of
the
car
wash
noises
on
the
the
sidewalk
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
C
B
Yes,
Mr,
chair
I
feel
like
if
we
offer
them
the
opportunity,
then
we're
the
applicant
gets.
T
Apologize
one
thing
I
just
wanted
to
ask
too,
is
oh
I'm,
sorry
Sean
Davis,
8828,
Clovis
Drive,
chairman
committed
committee
members,
I
I
kind
of
inquired
a
little
bit
but
I
didn't
I
just
went
off
and
started
rambling
about
the
notification
process,
because
I
did
pull
my
neighbors
in
the
last
few
days
and
none
of
them
had
heard
about
this
project
either
and
even
ones
that
are
even
closer.
T
A
Chairman
I
can
clarify
real
quickly
just
doing
some
quick
measurements
on
our
GIS
system,
this
gentleman's
home
and
the
ones
around
it
are
outside
of
the
300.
So
what
we
do
is
we
measure
300
feet
from
the
outside
of
the
property
and
you're
somewhere
around
350.,
so
yeah
you're,
just
outside
of
that.
T
Okay
and
oh
gosh
I
lost
my
train
of
thought,
but
there
was
one
other
question:
I
did
and
I
thought
that
I
had.
One
comment
was
that
it's
interesting,
that
this
is
laid
out
and
probably
for
their
purposes,
really
works
out
well,
but
it's
not
lost
on
me
that
it
shoved
to
the
south
east
corner
of
that
piece
of
property.
That's
the
only
place,
that's
contiguous
to
residential
homes
across
the
street.
On
the
on
the
East.
T
So
all
this
is
getting
crammed
right
up
against
the
residential
side
and
I
I,
don't
know
if
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
flip-flop
this
in
a
mirror
image
and
put
that
tunnel
and
and
dryers
down
at
the
South
End
of
the
property
and
even
maybe
towards
the
west,
but
that's
probably
not
possible,
but
I
I
find
it
interesting
that
it's
the
closest
to
residential
is
where
all
the
activity
is
going
to
be,
instead
of
next
all
the
industrial
next
to
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
S
Chair
Stephanie
Hopkins
again,
so
the
in
coordinating
with
designer
view
staff.
The
requirement
is
to
place
the
building
as
close
to
the
thoroughfare
or
roadway
as
possible.
So
we
kind
of
went
through
a
couple
different
concepts,
and
this
is
what
we
landed
on
that
worked
best
for
our
clients
use,
as
well
as
what
kind
of
complied
with
the
designer
view
requirements
in
placing
the
building
close
to
the
road.
S
H
C
H
With
regards
to
the
detached
sidewalk
I'm,
not
opposed
to
striking
that
requirement
for
this
project,
I
drive
down
Franklin
Road
every
day
to
go
home
from
my
office
and
I
think
it's
accurate
to
say
at
least
from
Maple
Grove
to
the
connector.
There
is
no
detached
sidewalk
on
either
side
of
the
road
and
based
on
the
existing
development.
That's
there,
and
maybe,
with
the
exception,
with
the
immediate
neighbors
to
the
east
of
this
proposed
site.
H
I,
don't
see
where
that
area
is
going
to
be
redeveloped
and
reconfigured
such
were.
The
existing
sidewalks
are
going
to
be
relocated.
So
it's
my
personal
opinion
that
the
existing
sidewalks
should
remain,
or
at
least
be
located
in
their
current
location.
I
think
to
make
the
requirement
to
do
a
detached.
Sidewalk
potentially
could
make
this
project
not
feasible,
cost
wise
because
they're
going
to
have
to
regrade
and
bring
in
Phil
on
both
sides
of
the
property,
so
that
is
that
would
be.
My
recommendation
is
to
remove
the
detached
sidewalk
requirement.
C
B
Generally
am
in
agreement
with
you
regarding
that,
because
I
feel
like
when
there's
existing
facilities
that
accommodate
what
we're
looking
for,
that
they
should
be
able
to
be
used.
I
also
know
that
there's
other
projects
that
the
city
is
now
asking
I
mean
almost
categorically
that
everything
provide
detached
sidewalk,
regardless
of
location,
just
because
that's
eventually
the
standard
they
want
to
get
to
it.
Looking
at
this
site,
it
looks
like
it's
probably
not
very
feasible
between
the
grade
and
the
you
know,
large
power,
poles
and
the
easements
and
everything
else
so
I
mean
I.
B
If
you,
if
everybody
else
agrees
that
we
could
remove
it,
I
guess
I
would
be
okay
with
that
I
feel
like
there's
some
leeway
in
the
condition
where
it's
not
cut
and
dry
like
there
provide
if
they
provide.
You
know,
information
about
the
topography
and
other
constraints
that
probably
gets
there
anyway.
I
guess,
I.
B
H
Mr
Simple
I
totally
agree
with
that
and
my
earlier
question
to
Stephanie
was:
can
we
explore
some
connection
on
the
east
side
of
the
drive
aisle
that
is
adjacent
to
Franklin
I,
think
that
might
satisfy
getting
The
Pedestrian
connection
I,
don't
like
how
it's
depicted
currently
crossing
the
exit
of
the
car
wash
I.
Think
that's
just
asking
for
trouble
and
I
think
that
the
grade
change
might
help
the
client
and
the
applicant
make
that
work.
C
F
In
general,
what
I'm
hearing
is
eliminating
item
C
but
leaving
item
D,
because
that's
the
part
that
says
we
want
to
have
that
connection
and
have
them
work
with
staff.