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Wednesday, April 13, 2022 @ 5:00 PM
A
Good
evening,
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
work
session
for
the
april
13
2022
design,
review
committee
with
that
can
get
a
everyone.
Do
roll
call.
C
C
B
C
C
A
Got
two
items
on
our
work
session
this
morning,
starting
off
with
drh22-0042.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
members
of
commission.
So
tonight
we
are
here
for
a
couple
of
work
sessions,
the
first
of
which
is
a
follow-up
on
drh
22-042
at
818,
west
and
morrison
park
drive.
D
So
for
a
reminder
on
the
screen.
Here
is
the
location
of
the
property.
It
is
located.
North
of
anne
morrison
park
drive
just
to
the
west
of
capitol
boulevard.
Less
street
is
on
the
western
boundary
and
then
sherwood
street
is
on
the
northern
boundary.
D
The
applicant
proposed
a
new
five-story
mixed-use,
building
containing
91
residential
units
ground
for
retail,
some
structured
parking
and
the
drawings
presented
at
the
hearing
on
march
9th.
They
were
given
some
direction,
some
items
to
work
on
and
they
have
submitted
drawings
that
they
feel
address
those
the
full
first
bullet
point
in
the
memo
that
was
distributed
for
tonight's
work
session
was
the
proposed
window
systems.
We
did
not
have
those
ahead
of
time.
They
do
have
those
tonight
so
I'll.
D
Let
the
applicants
speak
to
those
to
the
fit
and
finish
of
the
windows
proposed
in
regards
to
building
materials
and
finishes.
They
did
submit
a
material
sample
board
up
there
in
front
of
you
detailing
the
materials
for
the
structure.
They
have
proposed
a
black
painted
metal
mesh
for
the
garage
screening
with
two
by
two
grid
system.
D
They
have
included
stucco
in
three
different
colors
off-white,
a
gray
and
a
black
black
anodized
aluminum
storefront
window
systems
and
then
fiber
cement,
lap,
siding
in
a
natural
wood
finish
for
the
parking
structure
and
screening
again,
they
did
propose
the
two
by
two
metal
mesh
material.
That's
on
the
materials
board
there.
They
felt
this
presented
a
more
consistent
aesthetic,
with
the
proposed
building
with
more
adequately
screened
vehicles.
D
The
panel
heights
of
the
screening
have
been
reduced
below
the
podium
to
to
finish
out
that
area
between
the
proposed
parking
deck
and
the
stucco
above
in
the
pattern
that
they
feel
is
more
consistent
with
the
overall
building
appearance
and
have
also
matched
up
it
to
align
with
the
edges
of
things
like
bump
outs,
stucco
reveals
and
edges
of
windows.
D
So
I
know
the
applicant
has
a
more
detailed
presentation
about
the
changes
to
the
design.
There
was
a
narrative
included
in
the
application
materials
before
you
tonight
that
details
kind
of
a
punch
list
of
things
they
addressed
after
last
hearing
parap
heights
were
changed.
D
Building
material
massing
was
made
more
consistent
on
different
elements
of
the
building
which
they
felt
was
in
a
direct
response
to
comments
made
at
the
last
committee
hearing.
So
I
know
the
applicant
is
president:
they
have
a
presentation
to
give
on
those
specific
changes
that
they've
made.
Our
recommendation
is
that
as
long
as
those
window,
details
are
presented
satisfactorily
that
they
have
met
the
conditions
of
the
requirement
for
the
work
session,
and
with
that
I
would
stand
for
any
questions
or
we'll
turn
it
over
to
the
applicant
great.
A
Thanks
josh
and
questions
for
the
applicant
this
time
cnn
with
the
applicant
like
to
come
forward
and
present.
If
you
would
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
E
Thank
you,
tj
winger,
with
babcock
design,
group
800,
west
maine,
boise,
idaho.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
especially
for
your
comments
committee
member
ersted.
You
guys
gave
some
good
feedback
and
we
heard
those
and-
and
I
think
the
design
is
much
better
based
on
some
of
those
comments.
So
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
wanted
to
turn
some
time
over
to
valerie
she's,
going
to
go
through
the
slides
and
present
tonight
to
you
guys
and
we'll
stand
for
questions
after
she
finishes.
F
Hello,
everyone
so
to
further
elaborate
on
what
josh
was
talking
about.
We
made
some
modifications
to
the
materials
we
are
showing
below
and
on
the
screen
above
those
three
stucco
colors,
it's
the
white,
the
gray
and
the
black.
The
black
will
only
be
in
between
the
storefront
sections,
so
it's
not
very
prevalent
throughout
the
whole
project
and
the
south
entrance
to
bring
attention
to
the
south
entrance
and
the
white
and
gray
will
be
throughout
the
whole
project.
F
We
decided
to
choose
that
cherry
wood,
look
for
the
fiber
cement
and
that
is
also
done
throughout
the
project,
as
well
as
accent
points.
The
metal
mesh
is
going
to
be
that
two
by
two
metal
mesh
we
felt
like
that
would
be
better
for
transparency
than
the
four
by
four
or
sorry.
It
would
not
pro
it
would
prevent
transparency
into
the
parking
garage
and
we
just
felt
like
it
would
look
better.
F
We
have
spaced
the
metal
panels,
three
inches
from
each
other
and
I'll
show
a
detail
later
in
the
document,
so
the
metal
panels
are
spaced,
three
inches
from
each
other
and
nine
inches
from
the
top
of
the
podium.
Another
change
that
we
made
regarding
the
materials
is
we
changed
the
finish
around
the
podium
floor?
That's
exposed.
We
changed
it
from
that
gray,
color
to
the
white
color
because
we
felt
like
it
would
blend
from
the
upper
floors
to
the
lower
floors,
a
lot
better
than
having
that
gray.
F
That's
separating
the
two
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
here
are
some
perspectives
that
we
have
done
since
the
last
meeting.
That
are
a
little
bit
more
realistic.
The
one
on
the
left
is
the
south
west
entrance,
so
that
would
be
the
south
entrance
into
the
housing
development
and
the
one
to
the
right.
Is
that
view
of
the
cafe?
F
F
Another
thing
we
have
changed
and
modified
since
the
last
work
session
is
we
have
lowered
the
parapet
heights.
There
is
a
big
difference
in
the
parapets
before
and
we
felt
like
it
didn't
flow
as
well,
and
there
was
this
lack
of
balance,
so
we
have
lowered
the
pair
pits
throughout
the
whole
project,
just
so
that
it
looks
to
have
more
balance
and
more
cohesion,
and
then
we
also
have
raised
the
podium
level
by
12
inches.
F
So
could
you
go
to
the
elevations
next
sorry,
we
have
also
brought
in
the
slope
of
the
grade
in
this
elevations.
As
you
can
see,
we've
adjusted
the
stem
wall
heights
to
correspond
with
the
grade
sloping.
G
F
So
on
the
west
elevation,
which
is
the
entrance
into
the
leasing
and
amenity
space,
this
space
will
be
located
four
feet
above
the
ground
level,
and
this
is
because
it
needs
to
be
two
feet
above
the
floodplain
zone.
So
you
see
that
patio
space
with
the
ramp
and
the
stairs
that's
how
people
will
be
entering
the
leasing
space
and
then
going
further
on
the
elevations.
We
have
continued
the
language
of
the
upper
floors
down
to
the
bottom
floors,
so
the
materials
from
the
upper
floors
are
brought
down
to
the
bottom
floor.
F
As
you
can
see,
that
white
is
continuing
down,
the
gray
is
continuing
down.
Another
way
we
try
to
tie
into
the
upper
floors
is
what
josh
discussed
earlier
about
modifying
the
size
of
the
metal
mesh
panels
and
their
locations,
so
that
the
sides
of
the
metal
pet
metal
panel
sections
align
with
like
lines
above
so
it's
either
an
edge
of
a
wall
or
edge
of
a
window
or
some
other
design
element
from
above.
Just
so
there's
that
linear
continuation
from
above
and
then
next.
F
We
also
furred
out
some
walls
at
certain
locations
to
create
a
more
robust
look.
So
if
you
look
josh,
could
you
scroll
in
sorry
just
to
like
that
top
elevation
on
the
south?
Just
so,
you
can
see
the
corner
so
on
the
corner
elements
and
also
certain
facades
throughout
the
building.
We
furred
out
the
bottom
level,
so
that
finish
from
the
bottom
level
continues
all
the
way
up
to
the
upper
level.
So
it's
just
one
plane
and
we
just
wanted
to
bring
more
of
a
heavy
structure
throughout
the
pro
the
project.
F
So
there's
like
a
sense
of
grounding
to
it
on
the
corners
and
also
special
areas
of
interest,
so
the
other
areas
of
interest
other
than
the
corners
are
by
that
south
entrance,
where
the
sign
is
for
the
capital
student
housing
and
then,
if
you
scroll
down
josh
a
little
bit
on
the
west
side
right
next
to
the
entrance
by
the
patio
as
well
and
just
creating
more
focal
points
throughout
the
project.
Another
thing
we
did
was:
we
also
raised
the
canopies
to
align
with
the
bottom
of
the
podium
floor.
F
We
just
felt
like
there
would
be
a
better
horizontal
flow
with
those
design
elements
aesthetically
and
then
they
are
suspended
by
canopy
rods.
To
the
exterior
finish
behind
them
and
then,
if
you
screw
up
a
little
bit
sorry
for
that
south
facade,
we
changed
the
materials
outside
of
the
cafe
to
be
that
fiber
cement
panels.
We
felt
like
it
would
create
this
more
of
a
distinction
between
the
two
separate
uses.
So
it's
drawing
your
eye
to
that
corner.
F
That's
going
to
be
the
cafe
and
also
is
highlighting
that
it
is
different
than
the
rest
of
the
uses
there.
We
felt
like
that
would
be
a
good
way
to
bring
attention
to
that
space,
and
in
response
to
that,
we
took
away
the
wood
that
was
by
the
facade
by
the
south
entrance
where
that
capital
housing
signage
is
because
we
decided
to
have
it
correlate
more
to
the
housing
aspect.
F
So
if
we
were
going
to
use
the
wood
to
distinguish
the
cafe
area,
we
wanted
the
white
stucco
to
blend
in
with
the
rest
of
the
housing
and
highlight
that
entrance
and
not
say
that
it
was
any
different
than
the
rest
of
the
building.
And
then
we
also
changed
all
the
sign
colors
to
black,
just
so
that
they
pop
a
little
bit
more
and
those
were
all
the
items
that
we've
addressed
since
then.
F
Oh,
yes,
sorry,
if
you
keep
going
down
yeah,
those
are
some
floor
plans.
Also.
Those
are
some
floor
plans
also.
H
For
if
you
guys
want
to
look
at.
F
E
Just
the
goal
on
that
detail
around
the
window,
we
we
explored
a
few
different
scenarios
where
we
were
using
a
contrasting
color
and
a
contrasting
material,
and
it
it's
when
we
rendered
it.
It
seemed
to
not
feel
right,
so
we
wanted
to
do
a
detail
that
would
give
emphasis
to
the
window,
but
not
like
contrast
and
clash,
and
so
we
tried
to
find
a
simple
detail
that
could
meet
the
criteria
that
was
required
to
put
on
the
project
but
give
a
nice
tie
into
the
overall
composition.
F
H
G
H
E
C
I
Mr
chair,
yes,
mr
stan,
I
just
want
to
say
I
appreciate
that
you
guys
without
going
back
to
the
drawing
board,
you
revisited
this
and
made
a
lot
of
very
intentional
decisions.
I
was
looking
through
this
package
ahead
of
time
and
I
noticed
those
frames
aligning
with
the
elements
above,
and
I
thought
that
was
that's
just
a
nice
detail.
I
So
I
I
do
think
this
is
a
more
refined
project
and
I
appreciate
the
effort
you
put
in
there.
If
you
would
indulge
me
one
little
comment,
I
think
you're
missing
an
inset
wood
piece
on
your
east
elevation
where
that
elevation.
I
It's
shown
there
in
the
bottom
left
corner
on
that
last,
where
you've
got
this
rhythm
of
your
gray
and
white
pieces
as
they
step
out,
but
right
where
it
meets
the
corner
that
that
section
between
the
gray
and
then
the
the
turn
is
not
regularly
sized
with
your
other
segments
and
then
it
kind
of
creates
this
just
sort
of
amorphous
wall
context,
and
I
think
that
just
to
kind
of
continue
your
rhythm
and
accentuate
that
corner
a
little
bit,
I
think
you
ought
to
include
that
inset
wood
there.
A
Thank
you,
yeah
I'd
agree
with
that.
Are
you
identifying
that
portion
of
the
wall
where
the
key
note
material
call
out
one
is
pointing
to
on
that
elevation,
yeah.
I
Right
there,
I
think
it
probably
corresponds
with
keynote
14
would
be
where
the
break
probably
ought
to
set
back
or
even
a
little
bit
to
the
right
of
that.
But
you
know
just
based
off
of
the
the
sort
of
rhythm
that's
been
established
with
the
the
other
pieces
there.
I
think
that
would
be
just
a
nice
added
little
cherry
on
top
to
set
that
piece
back
in.
A
Only
other
question
I
had
is
so:
it
sounds
like
some
of
the
parapets
got
lower.
Are
you
guys
still
providing?
Are
you
some
screen
walls
on
top
for
some
mechanical
equipment,
then.
F
Yes,
we
still
are
and
the
units
are
placed
on
the
roof
behind
the
tallest
parapets.
Okay,.
H
A
Yeah,
I
think
you
get
some
good
points,
mr
stad,
and
looks
like
they
put
forth
some
nice
design
thought
on
their
recent
middle
items.
Nice
material
board
looks
like
this
is
pretty
straightforward.
Anybody
has
any
other
concerns.
J
K
A
Okay,
so
moved
and
seconded
with
that
christine
you
please,
oh,
I
have
a
real
call,
a
boat.
A
A
The
location
on
this
is
1722
south
lata
street
and
at
this
point
I'll
turn
over
to
rachel
and
staff
for
presentation.
C
M
M
The
condition
as
summarized
says,
that
the
applicant
shall
return
to
a
public
work
session
to
review
design
changes
regarding
color
choices,
materials
and
roof
line.
Modulation
in
regard
to
site
design,
the
applicant
submitted
a
revised
site
plan
that
shows
an
update
to
the
front
setbacks
and
that
they
were
reduced
by
two
feet
to
better
align
with
the
north
neighboring
properties.
M
The
new
elevations
shown
the
show
that
the
stone
columns
near
the
front
door
entrance
were
reduced
from
two
to
one.
The
number
of
colors
were
reduced
on
each
structure
on
lots.
1516
additional
windows
were
added
to
the
first
floor,
front,
elevation,
porch,
shed
roofs
on
each
structure
were
oriented
differently
and
on
lot
1516.
M
M
A
L
Hi,
yes,
so
my
first
time
here
so
forgive
me,
I'm
not
really
sure
exactly
where
to
start
but
reviewing
the
conditions.
We
were
in
agreement
with
all
of
the
conditions
on
the
approval
we
made
the
modifications
as
requested,
and
the
team
feels
that
the
design
was
improved
through
those
modifications
on
lot
1516.
L
As
mentioned,
we
removed
the
shed
roof
and
went
with
the
front
gable.
We
did
oscillate
on
the
site
plan
in
order
to
align
with
the
neighboring
lots.
We
reduced
the
stone
columns
down
to
one
on
the
front
to
simplify
those
elevations
along
with
the
color
palette
and
on
lot
1516.
We
did
add
additional
glazing
on
the
front
to
increase
the
there.
On
that
right
hand,
side.
L
We
went
from
a
single
window
to
the
four
that
you
see
and
and
then
we
also
brought
in
the
garages
off
of
the
alley
and
to
align
all
of
the
garages
on
the
back
side
there
so
where
they
were,
they
articulated
into
the
alley.
We
brought
those
back
to
to
allow
more
space
in
the
rear.
A
M
Mr
chair
and
committee
members,
from
my
recollection,
there
wasn't
a
requirement
to
move
the
garages.
I
think
that
this
was
just
done,
maybe
by
the
applicant,
with
some
discussion
about
the
alleyway
and
possibly
like
the
garage
is
not
lining
up.
I
think
there
was
a
comment,
but
they
weren't
required
to
move
them.
I
don't
think
okay.
L
I
I
mean
personally,
I
think
you
know
if,
if
you've
got
22
feet
there,
that's
generally
plenty
of
space
for
a
car
to
get
onto.
I
think
the
extra
five
feet
is
probably
overkill
and.
G
I
Together
for
purchase,
I
think
you
know
the
extra
five
feet
of
yard
space
would
probably
be
appreciated
by
buyers,
but
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
require
that
I
just
if,
if
there
was
a
driver
on
your
end
as
far
as
why
that
decision
was
made,
then
so
be
it.
But
I
I
don't
think
we
should
be
encouraging
more
painting.
A
N
Yes,
mrs
ball,
just
one
question:
this
is
minor.
The
the
only
thing
that
I
saw
there.
That
kind
of
left
me
wondering
is
was
the
remaining
stone
column
it's
and
it's
the
only
stone
on
the
whole
project
and
just
wondering
if
it
would
make
sense,
since
you've
got
a
predominantly
board
and
batten.
N
Panelized,
look
horizontal
siding
if
it
would
be
worth
considering
removing
the
stone
but
keeping
the
same
physical
mass,
not
just
a
single
four
by
four
or
six
by
six
column
there,
but
doing
something
in
a
more
articulated
wood
column.
Look
as
opposed
to
the
stone,
which
is
the
only
odd
material
left
on
the
project.
Right
now,.
H
A
I
guess
alternate
be
some
of
those
little
small
shed
roots
that
are
those
kind
of
accent
pieces.
Those
could
certainly
be
stone
as
well.
If
you
wanted
to
keep
some
of
the
stone
to
add
a
little
bit
to
the
wall
surface
too,
it's
a
little
pop
but
yeah
that
is
yeah
with
the
removal
of
that,
so
that
second
column
made
sure
the
fact
that
every
building
kind
of
looks
like
one
big
long
building,
and
so
you
get
a
repetition
of
the
stone
going
down
the
street.
So
I
don't
know.
A
L
Up
any
other
questions
comments,
no-
and
I
do
have
with
these
comments-
are
these
you
mentioned
the
driveway
was
not
a
a
recommendation,
but
not
a
formal
comment
with
the
stone
column.
Is
that
th?
Is
this
a
recommend
as
far
as
my
conveyance
back
to
the
client?
Is
this
something
to
that
we'll
have
another
hearing
for
is
that
this
is
a
recommendation
to
get
into
the
designers
this
and
a
requirement
of
the
design
for
the
stone
column.
I.
A
Think
we
could
make
that
recommendation
in
our
motion
that
it's
an
allowed
option
to
be
entertained
by
the
applicant
okay.
L
A
That's
willing,
okay,.
A
Well,
this
time
I
would
close
up
well,
I
guess:
is
there
any
member
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify?
Yes,
please
come
forward,
and
if
you
would
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
okay.
O
Hello,
I'm
julie,
hulvey
3707
as
purse.
O
I
was
here
at
the
february
9th
hearing
and
when
I
saw
the
revisions
to
the
plans
that
were
made,
I
decided
I
needed
to
come
back
again
and
I'm
gonna
get
some
slides
done
here
with
rachel
slide
one
please
rachel.
O
I
have
some
real
concerns
and
in
particular
about
the
comments
that
have
already
been
offered.
O
This
development
comes
on
the
hills
of
another
skinny
lot:
job
adjacent
to
the
northeast
property
using
substandard
lot
ordinances.
The
design
review
committee
on
february
9
clearly
stated
that
paving
the
alley
is
a
condition
of
the
project.
The
transcribed
minutes
of
the
hearing
confirm
this
condition.
Changes
have
been
suggested
to
the
setbacks
and
the
garages
that
do
not
enhance
the
design
or
fit
and
bulk
of
this
project
in
the
neighborhood.
O
O
This
is
the
regulation
from
our
friends
at
ach
policy
7210.2
in
red.
You
see
clearly
stated
if
the
proposed
development
takes
access
from
an
alley.
The
developer
will
be
required
to
pave
the
entire
width
of
the
right-of-way
from
the
nearest
public
street
to
an
abutting
the
development.
Why
would
anybody
negotiate
away
elements
to
improve
a
development?
O
That
doesn't
mean
it's
gone,
but
I'm
concerned
about
it
slide.
Three
please.
This
is
the
boise
city
code,
110603.3d580.
O
O
This
is
a
dusty
mess
and
more
cars
on
the
end
finish
right
away
impact
the
neighbors
negatively.
You
can
see
I'm
basing
some
of
my
comments
on
the
assumption
that
this
condition
has
been
removed,
and
I
I'm
not
certain
that
that
is
the
case
on
continuing
the
pds
document
for
tonight.
Amidst
the
alley
is
to
be
paved,
and
that
is
causing
me
huge
anxiety.
O
O
O
O
I've
indicated
my
front
area
with
the
fat
red
arrow
on
the
bottom,
also
shown
as
the
front
setback
of
the
still
existing
homes
10
to
12
feet
and
the
placement
of
the
garage
from
1720
and
1718,
the
large
skinny
house
duplex,
you
see
at
the
top
there
at
for
the
the
garage
in
the
alley
at
22
feet
and
some
fraction
of
a
foot
from
the
far
side,
the
east
side
of
the
alley.
O
O
This
image
is
really
important
for
the
concept
of
skinny
homes,
ali
loaded.
It
is
now
but
was
not
before
the
previous
hearing
that
you
move
the
garages
to
the
47
foot
point
in
from
the
west
side,
the
left
side
of
the
alley
calculating
this
is
dedicating
40
of
the
land
area
to
garages
buildings
and
parking
and
proposed
open
driveways.
O
I'm
now
feeling
sick.
How
could
this
even
be
considered?
This
parking
garage
and
parking
change
is
taking
a
total
of
72
44
square
feet.
The
entire
parcel
is
0.42
acres
and
the
map
there
says
40
percent
of
this
development
is
being
dedicated
to
garages
and
driveways
across
from
the
front
windows
of
other
homes.
O
O
O
In
the
yellow
setbacks
for
structures,
taking
access
from
the
alley
should
be
closely
ignored,
coordinated
with
the
land
use
agency.
That's
us
you,
the
city.
The
setback
shall
either
discourage
parking
within
the
alley
where
it
may
partly
block
or
occur
within
the
right-of-way
or
allow
adequate
area
for
one
perpendicular
pad
in
order
to
discourage
parking.
Building.
Setback
shall
be
minimal
from
the
alley
right
away
line,
while
still
achieving
the
required
20
feet
of
backup
space
from
a
garage.
You
guys
just
said
this
or
other
parking
structure
to
the
opposite
side
of
the
alley.
O
That
is,
a
four
foot
setback
and
a
16
foot
alley
for
20
feet.
So
the
parking
in
the
alley
has
is
really
prohibited,
but
now
moving
the
garages,
it's
it's
putting
double
the
amount
of
parking
as
required,
and
it's
just
what
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
on
our
front
our
front
windows
next
slide.
Please.
O
My
general
concerns
this
builder
is
trying
to
accomplish
goals
with
this
design
that
may
be
incompatible
with
the
skinny
house.
Ordinance,
in
fact,
and
in
spirit,
better
coordination
and
fit
to
the
neighborhood
is
possible,
and
coordination
is
a
principal
reason
for
ordinances
and
design
review
bodies.
O
Next
slide.
Please,
specifically,
the
redesign
of
the
housing
fronts
has
improved
the
appearance.
The
roof
on
lots,
15
and
16
is
still
very
high,
as
is
the
second
story
wall.
I'd
like
to
see
you
please
lower
the
south
wall
and
the
roof
line
so
as
not
to
overwhelm
the
one
source
structures
adjacent.
I
feel
the
design
has
gone
halfway
to
where
it
needs
to
go
on
this
item.
O
Additionally,
that's
a
southern
exposure
and
it's
going
to
bake
it's
going
to
be
very
hot.
More
roof
protruding
down
over
the
side
of
the
wall
would
be
a
very
big
benefit
to
the
people
inside
the
building.
Next
slide,
please
another
specific
concern.
The
garage
proposal
is
incompatible
with
the
neighborhood
and
seems
to
defy
the
purpose
of
the
skinny
house
concept.
O
Garages
should
align
with
the
existing
alley
loaded
garage,
such
as
recommended
cars,
who
take
parking
from
the
alley,
should
not
be
allowed
to
park
and
they'll
only
be
allowed
to
park
in
their
own
garages.
Let
me
say
that
again,
cars
who
take
parking
from
the
alley
should
only
be
allowed
to
park
in
their
own
garages,
no
parking
in
alleys
to
ask
the
neighbors
to
look
at
a
sea
of
cars
lighting.
O
Additionally,
the
open
space
has
been
minimized,
making
for
a
less
desirable
living
experience
inside
the
homes
and
beyond
lot.
14
will
be
total
shade.
Next
slide,
please
my
perspective.
New
construction
is
desirable
when
it's
thoughtful.
My
concern
and
likely
that
of
other
homeowners
is
the
bulk
of
this
design,
overwhelms
us
by
designing
homes
with
several
bedrooms
and
making
them
rentals.
O
O
That
alley
is
blocked
off
the
previous
skinny
home
duplex
was
built,
and
this
is
what
it
looked
like
right
before
it
was
built.
It
was
not
blocked
off.
O
There
was
no
fence
preventing
the
alley
from
being
driven
straight
through
with
just
a
few
modifications
and
a
little
bit
of
cleanup.
It's
what
brought
the
conflict
of
the
alley
into
perspective
from
the
previous
builder,
but
yet
now
I'm
just
pointing
it
out.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
I
hope
you
can
see
what
I
see
feel
what
I
feel
pay
the
tax
I
pay
and
still
not
want
to
cash
it
in.
A
L
Yes,
absolutely
I
I,
as
a
homeowner
and
living
in
the
gata
county
and
within
a
very
urban
area
off
of
jefferson.
I
I
understand
the
concern
for
parking
and
the
concern
for
I
believe
you
mentioned
transient
residents.
I
don't
understand
that
the
intent
of
this
project
is
a
series
of
rentals
they're
designed
more
for
permanent
residents.
L
My
side
on
the
you
know
in
the
universe,
on
the
design
side,
we
do
get
a
lot
of
feedback
for
street
parking
people's
concerns
about
parking
on
the
street.
So
it's
it's
sort
of
a
catch-22:
we
don't
want
parking
on
the
street.
We
don't
want
parking
in
the
alley
a
night
and
I
do
sympathize
with
the
view
and
the
quality
of
the
neighborhood
and,
however,
I
you
know
I'd
like
to
just
keep
in
consideration
that
you
know
we
can.
We
can
reduce
that
back
and
gain
more
more
yard
space.
L
Definitely,
however,
I'm
not
in
agreeance
with
the
facade
on
lock
1516
on
the
corner
there.
I
feel
that
the
redesigned
gable,
the
additional
blazing
and
the
landscaping
there
should
alleviate
any
concerns
for
that
facade
those
trees
in
that
area
at
maturity
or
30
to
40
feet,
so
that
that
big
wall
is
is
easy
to
say
in
the
des.
You
know
when
we
look
at
these
black
and
white
front
on
elevations,
they
do
seem
more
extreme,
but
in
the
real
world
we
live
in
a
in
a
perspective
view
with
additional
landscaping.
L
A
H
I
I
Just
above
the
highlight
section
of
the
alley
recommendations,
it
called
out
that,
in
order
to
discourage
parking
within
the
alley,
right
of
way-
which
I
think
it's
important
to
note-
is
a
distinct
difference
from
parking
within
the
alley.
I
I
That's
usually
one
of
the
first
questions
that
comes
up,
so
I
think
that
if
the
developer
believes
that
this
is
an
aspect
of
his
project,
that
is
important
from
a
user
utility
standpoint
from
a
neighborhood
standpoint
to
not
negatively
impact
those
that
already
try
to
park
on
the
street
or
drive
on
the
street,
I
don't
see
anything
that
could
really
force
us
to
put
those
garages
four
feet
off
of
the
right-of-way.
A
Yeah,
I
think,
there's
some
good
points
to
that.
I
kind
of
you
know.
Sometimes
it's
hard
to
even
have
us
encourage
our
developers
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
additional
parking
towards
the
rear.
I
mean
all
alleys
are
service,
oriented
areas
with
garage
doors
and
trash
cans
and
the
rest
of
it.
So
I
do
understand
that
that
is
you
know
in
these
neighborhoods
there
are
backyard
windows
and
such
that
look
upon
that
and
certainly
don't
want
it
to
be,
but
there
is
the
nice
thing
with
that.
A
A
I
would
agree
with
the
applicant
on
the
on
the
elevation
too,
on
15
16
by
by
pushing
back
the
second
story,
providing
a
small
portion
of
the
roof,
that
kind
of
dissects
the
ground
floor
from
the
second
floor
and
the
gable
change
on
the
top.
I
think
it's
is.
It
is
a
good
improvement.
I
I'd
also
just
point
out
on
the
landscape
plan
a
significant
amount
of
screening
there
directly
adjacent
to
the
alley
that
even
prior
to
maturity,
should
do
a
lot
to
limit
the
view
down
the
alley
of
any
cars
that
would
be
parked
there.
N
Mr
chairman,
I
I
would
also
assume
that
the
conditions
for
paving
the
alley
up
to
full
achd
requirements
are
required
required
they're
out
of
our
purview,
but
they're
they've
been
clearly
stated
and
that
the
applicant
would
have
to
comply
with
the
all
achd
requirements.
As
far
as
improvements
to
the
ally
for
the
length
of
the
alley.
I
G
N
Chairman,
I
would.
I
would
second
that,
with
the
just
the
one
footnote
that
the
committee
recommends,
perhaps
the
the
applicant
and
or
the
design
team
consider
the
possibility
of
removing
the
stone
on
the
columns
and
using
another
material,
but
that
would
be
up
to
their
choice.
A
Yeah
yeah
so
moved
and
seconded
with
that
particular
motion
now
for
discussion.
Would
you
also
like
to
include
a
motion
concerning
the
ability
for
the
applicant
to
change
the
depth
of
the
driveways
if
they
wanted
to
at
all
or
not
necessarily.
I
I
I
don't
know
how
that
really
falls
into
the
motion,
given
that
it
hadn't
been
commented
on
prior
to
this
point,
and
it
was
changed
kind
of
on
their
own.
C
N
Mr
chairman,
I
I
agree.
I
think
the
the
that
area
there
and
I
understand
the
lady's
concerned
back
there.
But
if
from
what
I
recall,
four
of
these
residences
are
intended
to
be
basically
single-family
residents
with
the
thoughts
15
and
16
being
the
only
one
that
would
be
termed
a
rental.
N
So
I
I
think,
the
the
I
think
it
gives
an
opportunity
to
get
rid
of
some
of
the
clutter.
That
would
normally
end
up
on
the
on
the
street
side
and
maybe
be
less.
A
You
got
a
motion,
any
other
discussion.
Do
you
have
anybody
clear
on
the
motion.
C
A
With
that
christina
you
do
roll
call
vote.
B
N
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
we'll
just
run
through
the
agenda
real
quick
and
we
can
take
a
quick
break
before
the
six
o'clock
meeting.
So
we
have.
We
start
with
items,
one
two,
three
and
four
all
deferred.
D
Item
number
five:
we
are
planning
on
hearing
that
one.
We
expect
some
public
testimony.
A
D
D
P
A
I'd
like
to
call
the
april
13th
2022
design,
review
committee
meeting
to
order
christina
you,
please
call
the
roll.
N
H
C
A
Thank
you
and
next
thing
is
motion
on
the
march
9th
2020
minutes.
I
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Location
is
5522
west
franklin
road
for
to
construct
four
new
multi-family
residential
buildings
with
120
units,
a
clubhouse
building
associated
site
improvements.
Again.
Is
there
any
member
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak
to
this
item
tonight?
That
cannot
make
the
may
11th
2022
date,
seeing
none
move
on
to
the
final
item
for
deferrals,
which
is
item
number
seven.
It's
drh
22-0.
A
Finally,
is
there
any
member
public
that
is
wishing
to
testify
to
that
item
tonight?
That
cannot
make
the
may
11
2022
date
seeing
none.
That
concludes
our
items
for
our
deferrals
tonight,
and
with
that
I
would
be
open
to
take
a
motion
on
those
deferrals.
N
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I
would
move
for
recommending
deferral
of
agenda
items,
one
two:
three
four
and
seven:
every
deferral
to
the
may
11th
2022
hearing
of
the
design
review
committee.
J
A
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We
have
one
item
to
be
considered
for
tonight's
consent.
B
A
A
A
And
is
the
applicant?
Are
you
in
agreement
with
recommendations,
recommended
conditions
of
approval.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
appreciate
it.
Let
the
record
show
that
the
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item
tonight?
A
A
First
item
to
be
heard
tonight
will
be
item
number
five
item
number
five
is
drh.
22.0066
location
is
2350
west
kootenay
street.
It's
for
the
construction
of
five
new
multi-family
residential
buildings
with
85
units,
a
clubhouse
building
and
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
in
an
rtd
zone,
but
this
I'll
turn
it
over
to
staff
for
their
presentation.
M
This
project
is
located
at
2350,
west
kootenay
on
approximately
7.39
acres,
a
triangular
shaped
lot
east
of
south
vista
avenue
and
is
proposing
to
construct
five
new
multi-family
residential
buildings,
totaling
85
units,
a
clubhouse
and
associated
site
improvements.
The
site
was
reviewed
and
approved
under
pud-16-00027.
M
Due
to
access
issues
with
the
union,
pacific,
railroad
off
west
kootenay,
the
site
plan
was
revised
to
include
only
one
access
off
public
street
to
serve
the
site.
The
new
street
would
be
constructed
off
robert
street
and
would
be
dedicated
as
public
right-of-way
terminating
in
a
roundabout
near
the
entrance
of
the
multi-family
development.
M
In
the
report
dated
september
21,
2018
ada,
county
highway
district
reviewed
the
project
under
the
original
pud
and
cup
and
concluded
that
the
addition
of
85
units
would
generate
approximately
462
vehicle
trips
per
day,
which
would
not
exceed
the
threshold
of
2000
trips
per
day
for
local
streets.
Therefore,
trips
from
this
project
would
not
result
in
a
significant
effect
on
the
surrounding
area
and,
additionally,
the
construction
of
a
new
public
street
would
adequately
serve
the
site.
M
The
development
would
include
five
new
multi-family
buildings
consisting
of
two
eight
plexes,
two
22
plexes
1
24
plex
and
one
clubhouse
building.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
in
the
staff
report
it
incorrectly
calls
out
that
there
would
be
three
22
plexes.
But
please
note
that
the
proposal
is
for
two
22
plexes
and
124
plex,
along
with
the
two
8
plexes.
M
M
The
8-unit
complexes
and
the
clubhouse
are
two
stories.
The
24
unit,
complex
towards
the
interior
of
the
site,
is
three
stories
with
the
22
complexes
proposed
as
three
stories
stepping
down
to
two
stories
towards
the
outer
edges
of
the
site
to
complement
the
surrounding
development.
The
project
meets
the
35
foot
height
limit
requirement
for
the
r2
zone.
M
Lastly,
these
are
renderings
of
proposed
garages,
and
the
clubhouse
staff
finds
that
the
project
complies
with
the
zoning,
ordinance,
design,
review,
guidelines
and
goals
and
policies,
a
comprehensive
plan
and
would
recommend
approval
with
conditions.
And
this
concludes
our
presentation,
myself
and
the
applicant
are
available
to
answer
any
questions.
Great.
A
Q
There
we
go
so
as
as
stated
we
are
proposing
a
85
unit,
multi-family
complex
with
a
clubhouse
and
associated
you
know,
site
improvements.
We
have
a
plaza
with
that
clubhouse
the
site
is
nestled
within
these
union
pacific
railroad
that
are
the
property
owner
has
been
working
with
them
for
access
for
a
while
for
access
and
and
on
the
particulars
of
of
this
project.
Q
Q
Two
bath
units,
the
structures,
nearest,
the
property
lines-
are
all
two
story,
just
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
are
within
one
or
two
story
within
context
of
the
neighborhood,
as
we
do
get
to
the
eastern
edge
and
eastern
center.
We
do
raise
raise
that
in
order
to
have
three-story
structures,
the
structures
along
the
eastern
edge,
the
222
plexes,
which
are
on
the
outsides,
the
north
and
the
south,
and
then
the
24
plex
and
the
center
do
have
elevators
for
access
for
the
tenants.
Q
The
clubhouse
is
going
to
have
an
assembly
space
and
exercise
area
and
obvious
in
the
kind
of
leasing
office
for
community
gatherings.
Things
like
that,
the
assembly
space
is
adjacent
to
an
exterior
plaza,
which
will
have
plantings
and
a
park-like
setting
in
order
just
for
the
community
to
gather
there
on
the
interior
of
the
site.
It
also
has
a
single
living
unit,
above
for,
like
a
caretaker
property
for
somebody
to
be
on
site
in
in
management.
There.
Q
The
eight
plex
is
made
up
of
three
bedroom
and
and
two
bedroom
units
on
the
ground
floor.
Q
22
plex
on
the
three-story
side
has
the
elevator
the
two,
the
two
and
three
story
side
is
just
the
standard
stairs
we're
trying
to
provide
some
greater
accessibility
to
the
residents
that
are
going
to
be
marketed
to
for
this
particular
development.
Q
The
24
plex
is
50,
2
bedroom,
2
bath
and
then
25
percent
one
bed
one
bath
and
then
fifty
percent.
Twenty
excuse
me.
Twenty
five
percent
three
bedroom
two
bath
units,
just
a
small
picture
of
the
garage
wanting
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
architectural
interest,
so
we've
kind
of
undulated.
Those
here
is
the
facade
of
the
clubhouse.
This
is
the
main
entry
where
persons
would
enter
over.
Here
is
the
external
stair
for
the
caretaker
residence
above.
Q
Again,
the
eight
plex
we've
chose
a
mix
of
horizontal
siding
and
brick
with
some
accents
of
board
and
matin,
trying
to
break
up
and
provide
a
little
bit
of
visual
interest,
to
contrast,
the
horizontal
and
and
vertical
lines
of
the
project
providing
accents
of
the
brick
which
kind
of
hearken
to
that
an
an
adjacent
development,
the
vista
village,
which
does
have
some
brick
accents
as
well.
So
just
wanting
to
try
and
fit
within
the
fabric
of
the
neighborhood
in
this
development.
Q
One
just
showing
here
the
looking
at
the
the
definition
of
roof
height.
There
was
well
let
me
pause
and
come
back.
There
was
one
letter
that
was
sent
in
that
had
some
questions
about
this
development,
many
of
which
were
handled
during
the
cup
process.
Q
One
comment
was
saying
that
you
know
we
do
exceed
the
height
limit
of
35
feet.
Looking
at
the
definition
in
the
boise
city
code,
it
does
say
the
average
of
the
roof
height
and
so
just
showing
here
the
bottom
of
the
roof
structure
and
then
the
max
height
of
the
roof
structure.
Q
We
do
fall
under
underneath
that
by
a
few
inches,
so
we
we
are
compliant
there,
which
was
also,
I
guess,
taking
a
look
at
during
the
cup
application
process.
We
just
wanted
to.
You
know
recognize
that
there
were
some
comments
about
this
and
and
show
that
we
are
addressing
them.
I'm
going
to
pause,
sharing
this
and
then
share
some
renders
we
have
of
the
project.
Q
Q
Q
Here's
a
shot
from
the
the
center
of
the
parse
of
the
the
roundabout.
Looking
back
at
the
clubhouse.
Q
Looking
at
the
the
avid
main
avenue
entering
entering
the
facility.
Q
A
shot
of
the
the
plaza
and
the
community
gathering
space
with
the
benches
and
and
the
park
like
setting
between
just
outside
the
assembly
area
of
the
clubhouse
and
here
is
a
shot
from
a
balcony
on
the
22
plex
kind
of
looking
down
south
at
the
shade
structures
that
will
be
provided
for
majority
of
the
parking
parking
stalls.
R
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I
just
had
a
quick
question
regarding
the
pathways.
It
shows
that
they're
on
the
other
side
of
the
railroad
tracks,
it
looks
like
one
of
them
connects
to
the
roadway
yeah
right
here,
where
that
car
is
exiting
that's
what
the
south
side
of
the
railroad
right.
Yes,
does?
That
pathway
lead
all
the
way
to
kootenay?
Will
it
connect
to
the
sidewalk
over
there.
Q
J
Mr
chair,
yes,
what's
the
question,
is
there
any
connectivity
from
the
complex
to
federal
way,
pedestrian.
Q
That
is
by
design,
so
while
the
property
owners
and
the
property
owners
are
present.
So
if
we
have
a
specific
question
about
their
discussions
with
union
pacific,
the
sightings
are
less
used.
The
the
main
line
which
does
run
behind
there
is
is
more
used,
and
so
we
did
not
want
to
have
some
a
crossing
there.
Union
pacific
in
working
with
them
wanted
the
crossing
on
one
of
the
sidings,
which
is
less
used
it.
Q
It's
very
rarely
used
it
sometimes
houses
a
a
car
there,
for
you
know
a
few
hours
and
then
it'll
come
get
picked
up.
Q
I
Mr
chair,
yes,
if
there
is
no
intent
to
connect
that
northern
pathway
to
federal
way-
and
I
think
for
a
lot
of
good
reasons-
I
I
kind
of
question
the
need
for
it
to
extend
out
that
far,
particularly
because
it
doesn't
seem
to
connect
to
the
the
development
itself
anywhere.
I
The
same
can
be
said
for
the
one
on
the
south,
I'm
just
a
little
confused
about
the
purpose
of
them.
Do
you
expect
your
your
tenants
to
walk
all
the
way
out
the
development
cross,
the
railroad
on
the
western
side
and
then
walk
all
the
way
back
to
get
to
kootenay,
or
I
don't
know.
Q
No,
I
guess
that's
that
was
part
of
the
conditional
use
application
so
in
in
the
course
of
this
project.
We
we
took
over
after
the
conditional
use
application
was
approved,
but
we
can
certainly
look
at
that,
but
we
do
recognize
that
that
would
be
a
long
walk
from
for
the
residents,
the
main
intent
of
the
walk.
We
do
have
many
walk
paths
throughout
the
development
which
would
be
more
appropriate,
but
if
persons
wanted
to
get
on
a
more
leisurely
or
take
a
longer
stroll
they
could
they
could
take
those
paths
if
they
wished.
I
R
Mr
chair,
yes,
I
think
I'm
familiar
with
this
area
and
I
think
the
pathway
on
the
south
side
kind
of
touching
on
committee
member
erstadt's
comments.
The
south
side
of
the
railroad
tracks
does
at
least
provide
connect,
pedestrian
connectivity
to
kootenay,
which
does
cross
the
railroad
tracks
and
then
turns
into
protests
and
leads
down
off
the
bench.
So
they
could
get
the
federal
way.
That
way
is
a
little
bit
longer,
but
I
think
there's
a
bus
line
that
runs
down
kootenay.
R
R
Yeah
and
then
I
don't
know,
is
there:
maybe
this
is
for
staff
if
they
can
pull
up
an
aerial
photo,
because
I
know
on
the
east
side
of
the
railroad
tracks.
There's
some
other
development,
including,
I
think
some
residential.
R
G
Q
Q
The
the
development
is
kind
of
here,
maybe
about
the
the
bottom
two
thirds
and
then,
as
federal
as
federal
way
gets
closer
to
the
parcel.
There
isn't
not
development
up
here
in
the
kind
of
the
upper
well
actually
upper
half,
but
there
is
development
down.
R
A
S
Mr
chairman
and
committee
members,
I've
never
been
to
a
committee
meeting
before
so
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
Okay,
my
name
is
karen
moore
and
I
live
at
1007
south
pico
street,
so
I
am
at
the
eastern
edge
so
that
little
development
that
you
had
spoken
of
those
six
houses
along
there.
S
S
I
just
am
concerned
about
the
density.
When
I
looked
on
the
ada
county
assessors
site,
I
saw
that
this
is
a
6.823
acre
parcel.
S
S
I
bought
it
in
june
of
2021,
and
you
know
the
backyard
was
full
of
weeds,
so
I
had
a
landscaping
company
come
in
and
take
all
the
weeds
out
and
put
a
nice
flagstone
patio
out
there,
and
if
I
have
a
three-story
two
at
the
very
end,
building
backing
right
up
to
the
railroad
tracks,
where
my
property
is
also
a
little
bit
lower.
As
you
come
down
off
of
you
know
the
bench
it
gets
a
little
bit
lower.
That
is
going
to
be
a
massive
building
right
in
my
backyard.
S
Probably
myself
and
my
neighbor
next
to
me
are
going
to
be
most
impacted
by
those
buildings,
but
it
will
be
significant
for
me.
I
probably
will
have
no
sunlight
in
my
backyard
after
2
pm.
So
just
those
were
my
biggest
concerns,
I'm
not
at
all
concerned
about
the
infill.
I
think
this
is
a
great
use
of
the
space
and
it's
an
attractive
project,
but
I
just
think
the
density
is
a
little
too
high.
A
So
we
have,
I
think,
do
we
have
a
raised
hand
online?
Okay,
thanks.
P
Hi,
my
name
is
alexandra
manchar.
I
live
at
2222,
west
kitteny
street
and
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
really
appreciate
this
project.
I'm
excited
to
see
more
housing
coming
to
the
bench
and
especially
in
this
spot,
so
close
to
vista
village
and
transit,
accessibility
and
green
belt,
and
everything
like
that.
I
also
really
want
to
mention
that
I
really
appreciate
the
the
pathway
on
the
south
that
connects
kidney
straight
to
robert
street.
P
I
like
to
walk
to
vista
village
for
daily
trips
for
shopping,
and
it's
sometimes
I'll.
You
know,
walk
along
the
railroad
just
to
have
a
little
bit
more
pleasant,
so
I'm
excited
to
have
an
actual
pathway
to
walk
on
there.
So
I
appreciate
that
element
of
this
design
and
I
also
want
to
commend
the
developer
for
the
unit
mix.
I
think
it's
a
great
mix
of
unit
sizes
that
will
encourage
both
families
and
students
and
young
professionals,
so
I'm
excited
to
have
those
neighbors.
P
One
thing
I
I
do
want
to
recommend
is:
I
really
think
that
the
clubhouse
entryway
is
well
articulated
with
the
canopy,
and
I
noticed
that
there
are
the
canopies
on
the
the
complex
buildings
but
they're
on
the
like
top
story.
I
think
that
they
would
better
mark
the
main
entrances
if
they
were
on
the
main
level,
so
just
a
comment
of
recommendation
there.
Otherwise,
I
think
it's
a
great
project.
Thank
you.
A
D
Mr
chairman
looks
like
she's
having
trouble
unmuting,
but
we
do
have
another
member
of
the
community
and
I
can.
I
can
work
with
kelsey
to
see
if
we
can
get
her
unmuted.
T
Okay,
sorry,
I
I
just
had
a
question
really
about
traffic
at
kootenay
and
how
that
will
affect
you
know
the
congestion
that's
already
there.
That
was
probably
my
biggest
concern.
G
A
See
if
the
applicant
can
address
that,
otherwise
staff
can
probably
assist
on
findings
on
the
traffic
portion.
V
Excellent,
so
I'm
on
my
my
wife's
account
here,
but
my
name
is
kelby
sommer
and
I'm.
C
V
Great,
so
I
I
guess
the
primary
question
is
related
to
the,
since
they
restricted
the
access
only
to
robert
street
for
this
development.
What
are
the
proposed
improvements
to
robert
related
with
the
development?
Considering
it's
a
you
know:
unstriped,
it's
not
the
width
is
you
know
it's
unimproved,
unstriped,
no,
curb
and
gutter
doesn't
meet
the
30
foot
width
requirements
that
are
also
in
the
achd
code.
V
So
what's
the
how's
the
project
addressing
the
issues
with
access,
road
and
and
secondly,
robert
street
is
also
a
bikeway
in
the
the
designated
bikeway
that
that
connects
to
kootenay
and
then
on
to
federal
way
to
keep
bike
traffic
off
of
vista,
since
it's
pretty
unsafe
to
try
and
ride
your
bicycle
down
that
so,
what's
the?
How
does
the
increased
traffic
affect
that
the
performance
and
the
designation
of
that
of
robert
street
as
a
bikeway.
A
Joshua
have
anybody
else
online
wishing
to
testify,
mr
chairman?
No
anybody
else
in
the
audience
here
wishing
to
testify
tonight.
A
C
It
needs
help
and
the
amount
of
vehicles
that
are
proposed
for
this
proposal,
given
the
number
of
parking
spaces
that
are
allotted
is
frightening
and
I,
as
a
local
resident,
I'm
concerned
about
it.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
Q
Mr
chair
design,
committee
members,
we
do
recognize
that
any
development
does
increase
the
traffic
in
an
area
and
we
in
in
working
with
achd
through
the
cup
process
property
owner
has
understood.
You
know
that
there
there
will
be
an
increase
here
and
in
that
cup
application
process.
Q
So
all
the
traffic
would
be
focused
on
roberts
and
there
are
some-
I
guess
things
that
would
we
are
going
to
be
improving
the
roadway
where
we're
going
to
create
that
access
point,
but
as
far
as
as
that
crossing
at
the
at
the
railroad
tracks,
because
the
railroad
tracks
do
extend
across
robert
a
little
bit,
however
unused
they
are
currently
there,
and
so
there
is,
I
guess
union
pacific
would
be
kind
of
in
charge
of
how
to
improve
that
specific
area.
Q
One
of
the
things
that
that
this
property
would
or
this
development
would
address,
though,
is
some
of
that
bike.
Traffic
along
roberts
persons
could
now
access
this
public
drive
and
use
that
that
south
walkway
to
bypass
the
busy
intersection
at
kootenay
and
roberts
to
take
that
down
to
kootenay
street
in
a
safe.
In
a
safe
way,
away
from
vehicle
vehicular
traffic,
also
in
in
this
development,
you
know
not
all
of
the
occupants
would
be
going
to
robertson.
Q
Kootenay
many
would
be
going
north
up
to
day
drive,
which
is
a
much
larger
intersection
and
then
out
to
vista
and
maybe
going
downtown
or
up
to
vista
village
accessing
things
that
way.
So
we
we
have
tried
to
do
what
we
can
to
mitigate
some
of
this,
but
we
just.
We
also
recognize
that
you
know,
with
with
development,
will
increase
traffic
a
little
bit.
R
Mr
chair
yeah,
mr
simple,
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
thanks
for
addressing
that
traffic.
R
I
know
that
that's
been
vetted
through
the
initial
pud
and
then
the
cup
also
it's
kind
of
outside
our
purview
when
it
comes
to
traffic
and
what
has
to
happen.
I'm
sure
that
I
just
want
to
ask
just
as
a
formality,
you're
in
agreement
with
the
conditions
of
approval
in
the
staff
report.
Yes,.
H
R
And
I'm
assuming
that
extends
to
the
achd
staff
report
that
you
received
as
well
correct.
Okay,
touching
on
some
specifics,
do
you
how
far
off
set?
Are
you
from
the
railroad
right-of-way?
R
Do
you
know
that
off
the
top
here
for
the
buildings
for
the
buildings?
Yes,.
Q
R
R
Q
Q
R
I
guess
I
would
encourage
you
to
look
at
some
additional
plantings
that
may
help
with
the
neighbors
to
the
east.
Okay,.
R
Near
those
residences
just
to
protect
some
of
the
privacy
from
those
third
story
and
even
second-story
buildings,
that
would
you
know
and
I'm
I
don't
feel
like
people
tend
to
look
in
other
people's
yards,
but
there
is
the
you
know
the
impression
that
their
privacy
is
a
little
compromised.
So
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
look
at
that
on
your
planting
plan.
Yes,.
A
A
A
Kind
of
aligns
with
the
southern
two
slash
three-story
building,
maybe
close
or
the
parking
lot,
would
be
nice
if
those
were
included,
maybe
on
the
on
the
aerial.
But
there
you
can
kind
of
see
so
there's
the
transportation
service
building
the
commercial
building
there
at
the
very
top
on
the
north
end
of
pico,
and
then
that
sounds
like
the
the
next
one
south
from
that
was
107,
which
is
probably
the
most
impacted
from
the
three
story.
A
But
if
I
looked
at
that,
it's
maybe
a
third
of
the
way
up
that
line
and
compared
to
the
site
plan,
looks
like
that's
mess
yeah
just
about
where
that
second
and
third
story
building
are
just
as
a
correlation
and
as
they
stated
looked
like
there
was
a
25
foot
easement
on
the
actual
train
tracks
itself,
and
then
did
you
say,
there's
another
20.
A
I
think
it
was
another
25
on
each
side,
so
whether
it's
70
to
75
feet
on
the
easements
plus
a
little
bit
more
of
a
setback
from
the
actual
property
line
to
the
building
a
little
bit
more
distance
from
the
residents
to
their
back
of
their
house.
So
you
know
could
be
150
or
so
feet,
building
the
building.
So
just
a
couple
of
those
items,
maybe
for
discussion
and
reference.
C
R
R
I'm
sure
working
with
the
railroad
was
a
time-consuming
effort
from
what
I
understand
they
operate
by
mail
only
and
which
can
be
challenging,
and
it
looks
like
they've
found
a
way
to
get
some
good
density
in
here.
They
found
a
way
to
access
across
these
train
tracks.
R
It's
a
challenging
site
and
I
feel,
like
they've,
done
a
really
great
job
at
finding
a
way
to
redevelop
this.
You
know
it's
a
again
very
unique
situation.
So
that's
really
what
I
wanted
to
add.
It
sounds
like
they're
addressing
some
of
the
issues
I
do
like
that
pathway,
because
kootenai
is
getting
busier.
R
A
Motion
anything
else
on
our
comments
that
we
could
say
about
the
northern
pathway
that
just
kind
of
runs
off
towards
a
dead
end.
I
think
there
were
some
good
comments
of
whether
there's
an
opportunity
to
cross
the
tracks
in
a
more
formal,
yeah.
A
With
the
northernmost
22
plex:
well,
that's
anything
we
needed
to
condition,
but
something
they
may
want
to
look
into.
G
R
Think
that
that's
really
I
mean
it's
something
that
I
think
that
the
applicant
could
explore.
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
a
way
to
get
from
that
over
to
day
drive,
if
there's
any
opportunity
there
to
work
with
the
property
owner
to
try
to
get
access
to
their
for
pedestrian-only
access
that
might
provide
some
additional
connection.
R
I
don't
know
if
we
can
condition
that
or
not,
but
because
I
feel
like
they're
meeting
the
the
condition
of
approval
that
f
in
our
staff
report
and
yeah
again
with
the
railroad,
I'm
sure
that
they
want
as
few
people
trying
to
cross
there,
there
may
be
people
that
run
across
it.
There
probably
is
now
so.
R
Mr
chair,
yes,
I
might
as
well
keep
going.
I
would
move
to
approve
22-066,
as
recommended
in
the
findings
of
fact,
conclusions
of
law
and
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval
noted
in
the
project
report.
A
A
Next
item,
to
be
heard
tonight
is
item
number
eight.
It's
drh
22.0078.
W
W
W
Just
so
you
know
north
is
on
your
left
here
or
yeah
on
your
left
ear,
and
then
they
have
arrangements
of
smaller
groupings
of
townhouse
style
buildings
throughout
the
development
and
then
an
amenity
area
towards
the
center.
W
So
this
shows
the
height
of
the
different
buildings,
so
you
have
the
taller
buildings,
the
three
story
in
the
green
and
then
the
two
story
are
the
red,
so
they've
placed
those
shorter
buildings
near
the
residential
across
trabuco
and
then
the
larger
buildings
are
up
along
victory
and
milwaukee.
Lane.
T
W
W
And
I
believe
the
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
all
of
our
recommended
conditions
and
they
are
available
to
give
a
presentation,
so
we
can
turn
it
over
to
them.
A
Great
thanks
caitlin
any
questions
for
the
staff
at
the
moment.
Seeing
that
if
the
applicant
would
please
come
forward
and
if
you
would
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
K
Chairman
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
deborah
nelson
and
my
address
is
601
west
bank
street.
I
just
wanted
to
greet
you.
Let
you
know
I'm
here
in
the
audience.
If
you
have
questions,
but
our
architect
is
online,
rob
cottle
with
bobcat
babcock
engineers.
Excuse
me,
and
also
our
applicant,
alex
drexel
with
leighton
construction
is
online
as
well.
So
all
three
of
us
are
available
to
answer
questions
and
rob's,
going
to
give
a
presentation.
U
A
U
Are
you
able
to
see
that
okay,
yes,
okay,
yeah?
So,
as
was
stated,
our
project
is
a
301
unit
development
located
on
victory,
road
between
tribuco
and
milwaukee
street
milwaukee
land.
Excuse
me,
the.
U
Site
plan,
as
as
you
go
in
currently
the
land
is,
is
vacant.
These
are
some
views
of
the
land
from
a
few
months
back
showing
the
location.
This
is
our
most
current
site
plan
and,
as
was
stated,
what
we
have
is
the
way
we've
arranged.
U
The
site
is
to
be
good
neighbors
and
to
be
respectful
of
the
scale
of
the
neighborhood
we've
located
the
two
story:
four
three
and
four
plex
townhome
product
around
the
south
and
predominantly
west
side,
a
little
bit
on
the
east
side
of
the
of
the
perimeter
of
the
site.
U
Those
are
two-story
rear-loaded
units
with
garages
I'll
show
you
elevations
here
in
a
minute
and
as
you
move
inward
on
the
site,
the
density
increases
slightly
where
you
know
go
to
a
three-story,
back-to-back
town
home
product,
on
these
inboard
units
and
and
on
the
corner
of
victory,
road
and
milwaukee.
U
We
do
have
two
tuck
under
three-story
apartment
buildings
that
have
the
highest
amount
of
density.
The
parking
excuse
me
before
I
move
forward.
U
We
also
have
a
centralized
amenity
area
with
a
clubhouse
noted
on
item
number
seven
here
there
will
be
a
pool,
there's
various
amenities,
dog
parks,
playgrounds,
barbecue
pits,
pickleball
court
and
those
sorts
of
amenities
some
of
those
are
being
finalized.
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
the
way
we're
we're
dealing
with
the
interior
streets
between
the
town
homes.
You
can
see
the
paving
pattern
in
the
site
plan
is
different
and
what
we're
wanting
to
do
there
is
a
it's
a
concept.
U
It's
a
strange,
it's
a
funny
name,
but
it's
called
a
wound.
It's
a
it's,
a
dutch
concept
where,
basically,
by
changing
the
the
paving
pattern
and
eliminating
the
curbs
at
the
back
of
these
units,
it
becomes
a
more
pedestrian
friendly
site,
and
this
is
a
this
is
an
example,
a
rendering
of
what
this
looks
like.
U
You
know
psychologically
it
it
tells
you
when
you're
driving
that
you're
now
in
a
different
area,
it
slows
down
traffic
and
it
makes
a
more
pleasant
public
space
from
an
aesthetic
point
of
view.
So
the
way
the
par
the
way
the
project
is
is
basically
designed
is
that
a
large
majority
of
the
parking
is
being
handled
in
garages.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
garage
space.
U
Excuse
me
for
the
majority
of
the
units
we
do
have
some
surface
stalls,
but
even
under
the
what
we're
calling
the
tuck
under
the
the
back
side
are
there's
a
series
of
garages
as
well
and
then
also
bike,
bicycle
storage
and
parking,
we're
aware
of
the
bicycle
parking
requirement
for
the
city
of
boise
and
the
way
we're
proposing
to
address
that
is
in
all
of
the
private
garages
for
all
of
the
units,
installing
bicycle
hooks
or
those
residents,
since
it's
most
most
likely
that
most
people
would
like
to
store
their
bikes
on
their
own
property.
U
But
there
will
also
be
satellite
bike.
Racks
spread
throughout
the
site
as
well
to
accommodate
that,
and
if
we
do
put,
those
in
all
of
the
garages
were
well
over
50.
The
the
bike
parking
required
would
be
covered.
U
You've
seen
this
stock
you
or
this
diagram.
This
just
shows
the
scale,
the
height
of
the
building,
showing
how
we
start
with
a
lower
scale
around
the
neighborhood
and
move
inward
to
a
higher
density.
This
is
the
just
a
quick
parking
diagram
showing
all
the
garage
parking
that's
available.
The
red
are
the
private
garages
of
the
town,
home
units,
the
blue
or
the
tuck
under
units
in
the
apartment
building.
U
We
have
gone
through
preliminary
layouts
of
waste
removal
showing
we're
intending
traditional
personal
bins
for
the
townhome
units,
much
like
at
a
regular
home,
but
for
the
tuck
under
building,
just
because
of
the
number
of
units
we're
going
with
the
trash,
chutes
and
interior
trash
rooms.
There's
a
diagram
at
the
bottom
here
showing
there
will
be
a
compactor
and
and
bins
as
well
we're
we're
working
with
the
city
of
boise
to
get
the
details
for
that
as
we
move
into
design.
U
U
It's
it's
ideally
suited
for
that
for
walking,
and
then
these
are
just
the
pathway
system
that
we
have
a
diagram
around
the
site
here.
So
there's
an
external
pathway
that
goes
down
victory
lane
and
down
milwaukee.
U
One
of
the
conditions
of
the
approval
from
the
last
meeting
was
the
10-foot
wide
multi-use
pathway
that
will
go
down
trebuco
and
that
will
be
usable
for
both
bikes
and
pedestrians
and
will
be
not
rather
than
a
bike
lane
in
the
street.
It
will
be
actually
on
the
landscape
portion,
so
you're
you
have
further
safety
and
separation
from
vehicles.
U
One
of
the
other
items
was
a
a
bus,
stop
requirement
on
milwaukee,
so
diagrammatically,
here,
thompson
enlarged
plan
showing
that
and
some
visual
examples
of
what
that
might
look
like.
We
have
yet
to
get
into
the
design
on
that,
but
that's
just
an
indication
of
generally.
What
are
what
we're
thinking?
U
This
is
the
planting
plan.
I
won't
go
into
detail
on
this,
but
we
we
do
have
landscape
architecture
on
the
team.
They
have
done
this
preliminary
plan.
U
They've
been
deemed
not
suitable
for
for
the
new
development,
so
all
the
all
the
planting
will
be
brand
new,
with
trees,
down
victory,
milwaukee
and
trabuco,
and
a
significant
amount
of
planting.
As
you
can
see,
I've
seen
them
around
the
around
all
the
buildings,
especially
fronting
the
outside
edges
and
the
other
neighborhoods.
U
This
is
an
enlargement
of
the
clubhouse
area.
Number
one
here
is
the
clubhouse
building,
it's
kind
of
an
l-shaped
building
with
a
two-story
element
and
a
one-story
element
as
well,
we're
looking
at
a
25-meter
pool
that
could
be
used
for
laughing
and
detainment
type
swimming,
a
hot
tub
and
a
pool
deck
bike,
racks
playgrounds,
dog
park,
fitness
lawn
and
and
we're
still
looking
at
the
locations
for
pickleball
courts
and
that
sort
of
amenity
as
well.
U
These
are
just
very
quickly.
These
are
the
townhome
floor
plan
types.
All
the
townhomes
are
two
and
three
two
and
three
bedroom
units
and
in
the
apartments,
let's
take
a
second
folks
before
I
go
to
the
apartment.
So
this
is
the
typical
elevation
conceptual
elevation
of
the
of
the
two-story
townhomes,
along
trabuco
and
and
along
the
south
edge
of
the
property
as
well.
So
you
can
see
the
scale
is
very
residential,
very
nearly
identical
to
the
scale
across
the
street.
U
The
the
elevation
that
faces
the
neighborhood
is
the
side
that
doesn't
have
the
garages.
The
garages
are
actually
loaded
from
the
interior
of
the
project,
so
you
know
they
look
very
much
like
standard
residential
homes,
both
in
finnish
architectural
expression
and
scale.
U
They
have
a
little
bit
more
of
a
metropolitan
sort
of
feel
higher
density
units,
and
you
can
see
we
have
a
plexus
12
plexuses
of
those
unit
types
I
again
using
a
similar
palette.
Our
palette
of
materials
is
in
kind
of
the
grays
browns
kind
of
earth
tones
we're
trying
to.
We
want
to
create
some
interesting
contrast
to
break
up
the
facades.
There
is
some
depth
relief
for
shadows
to
give
it
interest
as
well
and
also
set
the
units
apart.
U
This
is
the
floor
plan
of
the
first
tuck
under
building
we,
we
are
aware
of
the
condition
to
add
some
vertical
elements
to
this.
We
are
accepting
of
that
and
working
on
some
schemes
right
now
that
we'd
like
to
show
at
a
later
point
how
we're
addressing
that.
U
But
we
agree
that
that's
that
will
be
a
benefit
to
this
project.
So,
looking
at
breaking
up
this
facade,
so
we
don't
have
a
continuous
flat
line.
Changing
you
know,
altering
and
moderating
the
height
of
the
parapet
and
also
having
a
more
significant
entry
element.
Both
from
victory
and
from
milwaukee
as
well,
this
is
kind
of
a
back
view
of
the
l-shaped
building.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
perspective
there.
U
This
is
the
second
building
which,
in
the
apartment
buildings,
we
have
four
unit
types.
We
have.
We
have
a
studio,
a
one
bedroom,
a
two
bedroom
and
then
a
three
bedroom
corner
unit
and
then
several
tuck
under
garages
there.
There
will
also
be
some
interior
amenity
space
within
the
this
apartment
building
as
well,
and
then
this
is
the
clubhouse
plan.
The
preliminary
plan,
thus
far,
basically
the
leasing
office
is,
is
right.
U
When
you
first
come
into
the
building,
we
have
a
small
leak,
leasing,
office
space
and
some
management
space,
there's
a
parcel
room
for
amazon
and
ups
deliveries.
U
For
for
the
tenants,
there
is
a
small
meeting
room,
an
event
room
that
can
be
leased
out,
there's
a
gymnasium
and
then
kind
of
a
large
common
area,
room
kitchen,
fireplace
kind
of
public
hangout
area.
We
do
have
bathrooms
and
showers
for
for
the
pool,
and
then
we've
got
some
maintenance
and
storage
and
equipment
rooms
for
the
pool
room
on
the
ground
level.
U
On
the
upper
level,
there's
some
more
public
space,
a
dining
hall
upstairs
and
then
also
an
outdoor
patio
over
the
one
story
portion
of
the
clubhouse,
and
then
these
are
some
preliminary
elevations
of
what
that
looks
like
again,
similar
so
similar
palette
and
it's
situated.
So
it's
kind
of
the
first
thing
you
see
when
you
come
into
the
development,
the
lower
element
in
the
white,
the
white
stucco
element,
that's
where
the
gymnasium
and
the
functions
for
the
the
pool
support
would
be.
U
And
this
is
just
a
sample
of
some
of
the
material
palette
that
we're
looking
at
thus
far.
This
isn't
necessarily
the
limit
of
our
palette
we're,
but
this
this
shows
a
range
of
the
sort
of
tones
and
textures
we're
going
for
these
sorts
of
projects.
We
feel
are
very
important
too.
U
You
know
they
need
to
blend
in
so
going
with
earth.
Tones
and
natural
materials
are
good
both
from
an
aesthetic
point
of
view,
but
but
our
the
owner
of
this
project
is
is
a
long-term
holder
of
their
buildings
and
so
having
durable,
permanent
materials.
That
age
well
and
are
easy
to
maintain
and.
U
Make
the
buildings
last
much
longer:
that's
certainly
an
important
factor
in
the
choice
of
materials,
but
the
idea
is
is
to
have
enough
materials
that
we
can
create
variety
and
interest
so
that
everything
doesn't
look
the
same,
but
but
also
using
pallets
and
materials
that
blend
in
seamlessly
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
J
U
So
we
have
not
yet
determined
the
mechanical
system
for
for
all
the
units.
Yet,
however,
we're
anticipating
that
there
will
be
some
rooftop
mechanical
for
the
larger
apartment
building
just
due
to
the
scale
of
the
project,
and
we
probably
will
have
some
condensers
on
the
roof.
But
our
intention
is
to
have
those
fully
screened
in
the
townhome
product.
A
A
quick
question
on
the
topography
of
the
site:
I
know
the
the
school
administration
office
you
know,
sits
fairly
significantly
higher
than
victory
road
does.
But
I
didn't
see
how
you're
addressing
grades
with
some
of
these
long
buildings
as
you're
as
you're,
going
up
what
could
be
what
20
feet
of
grade
change
across
the
site.
U
That's
certainly
something
we're
keeping
in
mind
as
we
as
we
look
at
the
project
with.
There
may
be
some
step
in
the
elevation
which
would
help
also,
with
the.
U
You
know
the
the
concern
with
the
continuous
flat
elevation
we're
we're
honestly
not
far
enough
along
in
the
design
process,
where
we
set
the
actual
elevations
for
the
buildings
yet,
but
certainly
that's
something.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
addressing,
because
the
the
intent
is
not
to
create
a
lot
of
you
know
a
lot
of
cut
and
fill
from
the
site.
A
U
Well,
they're
they're
generally
the
they're
similar
layouts,
but
the
intention
is
to
use
a
palette
of
materials.
We
have
both
kind
of
some
gray
palette
and
some
brown
palette
type
materials
as
you
go
down,
so
you
have
a
series.
U
You
can
still
see
my
screen,
you
do
have
a
series
of
these
buildings
as
you
go
down
trabuco.
The
idea
is:
is
that
they'll
be
similar
and
look,
but
the
intention
is
not
to
make
them
identical,
so
we
would
vary
the
color
palette
and
there
may
be
some
opportunities
architecturally
speaking
with
some
of
the
gables
and
things
like
that
to
make
have
some
minor
alterations
to
add
a
little
more
variety
to
the
elevations.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that
would
be
an
important
thing
to
look
at.
I
know
that's
what
probably
close
to
a
thousand
feet
of
a
road
front.
It
should
have
the
the
same
exact
building
with
the
same
colors,
which
I
think
is
basically
what's
in
the
proposal
now
might
be
a
little
repetitive,
you
might
say
yeah
yeah,
one
of
the
other
things
we
had
in
our
work
session.
I
think
it
was
a
bad
practice
earlier
today
we
did
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
some
of
the
window.
A
A
What
kind
of
a
trim-
or
you
know,
basically
on
your
window,
the
offset
from
the
glass
to
the
wall
plane.
U
Yeah,
I
mean
the
idea.
This
is
a
conceptual
drawing,
but
I'll
zoom
in
I
mean
the
idea
is,
is
you
know
having
a
a
trim
piece
around
the
window
opening
and
then
recessing
the
frame
in
a
couple
of
inches
to
create
a
nice
shadow
line?
You
know
a
punched
window
has
a
much
it
has
a
nicer
look
if
we
can
slightly
recess
it.
U
I
think
that's
that's
the
general
intent
here
I
mean
the
other
thing
we're
trying
to
do
in
these
early
elevations,
it's
kind
of
hard
hard
to
read
it,
but
there's
a
lot
of
plane
change
going
on
in
these
elevations
on
the
end
units
are.
This
wall
is
quite
proud
of
this
other
wall
back
here.
This
recedes
back
quite
a
ways,
as
you
can
see
the
slope
of
this
lower
roof,
and
so
and
then
these
dormers,
these
white
dormers
on
the
middle
units.
They
come
back
out.
U
So
there's
there's
a
lot
of
in
and
out
on
these
buildings,
a
lot
of
horizontal
relief
as
well
as
the
architectural
features.
So
we
feel
that
there's,
in
effect,
quite
a
lot
going
on
with
these
buildings.
We
do
agree
that.
U
Creating
a
variety
of
color
palettes
to
mix
them
up
a
little
bit,
we'd
be
in
agreement
with
that.
A
Yeah,
this
is
this
building
that,
like
says
a
little
more
undulation.
I
think
the
other
buildings
that
you
had,
where
you
kind
of
had
the
alleyway
between
them.
The
only
thing
I
didn't
see
on
here
that
was
kind
of
similar
to
more
the
the
work
session
ones
we
had
earlier,
it's
just
the
scoring
pattern
and
the
stucco-
and
it
just
seems
to
be
maybe
a
little
lack
of
detail,
maybe
like
that
gray
number
two
area.
U
Yeah,
you
know,
and
in
all
fairness
we
we
haven't
we're
not
that
far
into
it
yet
and
that
level
of
detail
it.
I
should
say
I
mean
we
are.
We
are
looking
at.
You
know,
elements
like
felt
courses
and
cornices,
and
then
again
these
also
step.
U
You
know,
looking
back,
you
can
see
that
in
plan,
there's
the
doors
go
recess,
quite
a
ways
in
the
four
garage
doors
on
either
side
or
not
all
in
the
same
plane
as
well,
and
then
you
get
a
variation
as
you
move
up
the
building,
but
adding
some
scoring
we.
We
agree
that
that
would
that
would
help
articulate
the
scale
of
the
building
a
little
bit
better
and
that's
something
as
we
move
into
and
to
design
a
little
farther.
We'll
certainly
have
that
level
of
detail.
U
A
A
J
Mr
chair,
yes
in
general,
I'm
okay
with
this
project,
but
I
have
a
lot
of
concerns
that
I
think
well.
A
couple
of
them
are
in
dr,
I
already
addressed
in
the
site-specific
conditions,
but
I
think
I'd
feel
better
to
see
this
come
back
at
50
and
so
comments
for
the
applicant
things.
I'd
like
to
see
you
guys
take
another
look
at,
and
I
think
we've
we've
hit
them
all
already.
J
R
Mr
chair,
yes
yeah,
I
mean
I
could
kind
of
see
where
it
was
going
during
the
conversation
and
the
questions
with
the
applicant
that
I
think
that
we
all
agree.
We
were
going
to
ask
them
to
come
back
at
you
know
a
further
level
of
design
development,
so
we
can
get
some
of
these
details.
R
Color
palette
is
really
important
here.
I
think
that
that
ties
into
the
facades
and
those
those
elevations
along
trebuco.
I
think
that
the
grade
change
is
really
important.
Here,
too,
it's
going
to
help
step
those
building
facades,
some
you
know
the
window
systems,
the
stucco
scoring
mechanical
systems
and
screening.
As
you
know,
committee
member
aguila
already
touched
on,
but
yeah
generally,
I
like
the
density
of
it.
I
think
it's
a
great
spot
for
this
there's
schools
in
the
area.
R
There's
you
know,
work
opportunities
in
the
area
that
will
really
you
know
this
will
promote
some
walkability
out
here,
where
there's
really
not
a
whole
lot
of
that
going
on
right
now,
so
I
mean
I'm,
one
of
us
is
going
to
end
up
adding
that
condition.
So
whoever
makes
the
motion
anyway.
That's
all
my
comments.
Okay,
mr
chair
yeah,.
I
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment
that
I
appreciate
that
this
isn't
entirely
kind
of
a
pseudo-residential
style.
I
I
think
that
it's
nice
to
see
a
little
bit
more
of
a
urban
style,
but,
more
importantly,
I
think
that
the
the
fact
that
we've
got
some
you
know
reflective
roofs
out
in
the
middle
of
the
desert,
rather
than
just
a
whole
bunch
more
asphalt
contributing
to
the
urban
heat
island
effect.
I
don't
know
that
we
necessarily
bring
that
up
in
this
discussion
quite
often
enough,
especially
when
there
are
a
whole
lot
of
rooftops
going
in.
So
I
I
just
want
to
be
on
the
record
of
saying
I.
I
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
that
was
a
design
decision
that
was
made,
and
I
I
hope
to
see
more
of
it
in
the
future.
A
I'd
agree
that
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
good
mix
between
going
from
the
you
know,
the
administration
building,
which
is
commercial
building,
flat,
roof
and
kind
of
transitioning
that
over
to
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood,
and
and
certainly
not
opposed
to
the
color
palette
that
they
have.
I
just
would
suggest
a
little
bit
more
variation,
because
that
one
color
palette
over
this
size
of
a
development
would
be
a
little
much
but
yeah
without
anybody
want
to
take
a
stab
at
a
motion.
R
Mr
chair
just
wanted
to
add
one
more
thing:
the
werniff
I've
actually
seen
a
couple
different
times.
I
think
it's
a
really
cool
concept.
It
does
introduce
a
more
pedestrian
use
within
those
alleys
that
a
lot
of
times
get
forgotten.
So
I
do
want
to
mention
that
that
is
a.
I
really
commend
the
applicant
on
incorporating
that
into
here,
because
I
don't
think
it's
used
enough.
So.
A
A
D
A
A
R
A
I
I
think
that
that's
kind
of
been
the
the
typical
verbiage,
but
at
such
time,
as
all
design,
questions
can
be
answered.
Would
that
would
suit
me
just
fine
too.
A
Hearing,
none
christina
you
do
a
roll
call
vote.