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From YouTube: Design Review Committee Hearing
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February 9, 2022
A
Crh21
369-
this
was
initially
heard
back
in
november
before
the
committee
they've
come
before
you
tonight,
with
those
materials
addressing
the
conditions
for
the
new
project
at
115.
West
idaho
street
you'll
likely
recall
that
this
is
a
27-story
mixed-use
building
with
apartments
ground
floor,
retail,
structured
parking,
it's
located
at
the
corner
of
idaho
street
and
12th
street.
A
Those
items
include
the
parking
structure,
materials,
screening
and
lighting
pedestrian
level
materials
on
the
building,
some
balcony
and
exterior
material
clarifications,
and
then
some
planting
plan
clarifications
specifically
on
the
roof
of
the
podium
and
on
the
roof
of
the
structure
on
the
amenity
deck.
So
the
applicant
submitted
package
which
has
been
distributed.
The
first
thing
to
kind
of
highlight
and
talk
about
is
in
the
memo
is
the
change
to
the
site
plan
to
add
an
ingress
driveway
from
idaho
street.
A
We
evaluated
the
proposal
with
input
from
our
comprehensive
planning
division,
our
transportation
planners,
and
there
are
some
policies
that
that
do
discourage
that
access
from
idaho
street
number
one
in
the
downtown
design
guidelines.
It
does
recommend
that
parking
entry
should
be
located
away
from
the
primary
street,
either
to
the
side
or
rear
of
the
building,
and
this
is
to
take
advantage
of
alleys
where
present
in
downtown
we've
certainly
had
some
projects
recently.
A
A
In
addition
to
that,
I
understand
the
applicant's
conversations
with
achd
that
they
would
support
access
in
that
existing
driveway,
but
typically
want
to
include
this
policy
from
shd
that
they
typically
would
not
allow
access
from
an
arterial.
They
would
want
to
see
it
from
the
street
with
the
lesser
functional
classification
which
in
this
case,
would
be
12th
street
or
from
the
existing
alley.
There
is
a
condition
in
the
memo
that
was
distributed
to
committee,
that
we
do
recommend
that
that
access
on
idaho
street
be
eliminated
and
the
access
remain
from
the
alley.
A
Beyond
the
change
to
the
site
plan,
adding
that
access
on
idaho
street
the
submitted
work
session,
materials
really
do
ask
or
they
do
what
the
condition
asks
of
the
applicant,
which
is
clarify
details
of
the
building
and
proposed
materials,
so
they've
submitted
drawings
and
have
some
materials
tonight
for
you
to
be
able
to
take
a
look
at
and
inspect
that
clarify
exactly
what
those
materials
are.
A
The
first
of
those
is
the
glass
proposed
for
the
building,
clarifying
that
the
majority
of
the
structure
is
a
is
a
silvery
glass
with
some
some
accent
areas
near
the
balconies
with
the
darker
blue
glass
they've
submitted
samples
for
your
review
and
some
drawings.
That
also
illustrate
that
again,
here's
the
materials
on
the
tower
with
that
silvery
blue
on
the
majority
of
the
building,
the
darker
blue
glass
accenting.
Those
balconies
the
landscaping
at
the
podium
was
a
topic
of
discussion
at
the
last
hearing.
What
exactly
was
proposed
there?
A
They
have
clarified
on
that
podium
that
there
will
be
some
private
patio
space
for
those
for
those
apartments
that
daylight
onto
that
podium
and
then
on
one
side
of
the
building.
A
There
is
the
proposal
for
five
trees
in
36
inch
deep
planters
to
provide
some
vegetative
interest,
and
you
can
see
that
there
in
the
in
the
rendering
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen,
the
amenity
deck
plan
has
had
more
details
submitted
as
well,
showing
some
outdoor
fitness
gathering
areas
pool
and
also
some
vegetation
on
both
levels
of
the
amenity
deck.
As
requested.
A
Details
of
the
exterior
wall
have
been
submitted.
You
know
the
glass
balcony
system
details
have
been
shown
that
it
will
be
a
painted
steel
structure
with
glass
panels
enclosing
the
balcony.
A
A
This,
I
believe,
a
36
percent,
clear
vision
through
it
and
then
the
rest
will
be
opaque,
so
allowing
some
light
to
shine
through,
which
is
which
is
demonstrated
in
their
exterior
renderings
with
the
lighting,
but
also
preventing
you
know,
direct
viewing
of
vehicles
and
some
screening
and
again
that
graphic
element
that
mimics
the
top
of
the
building
is
included
on
the
garage
for
some
additional
interest.
A
A
Some
more
detailed
renderings
of
the
elevation
of
the
building
kind
of
highlighting
some
details
and
construction
methods
with
the
retail
structure
shown
here.
You
know:
glass,
storefront
system,
some
painted
metal
louvers
and
some
painted
metal
canopies
extending
over
the
public
right-of-way.
A
That
is
the
end
of
end
of
my
presentation.
The
applicant
will
certainly
go
into
into
greater
detail
on
the
proposed
materials
they
have
samples
available
for
you
here
tonight.
You
know
again
the
submitted
materials
we
feel
do
satisfy
the
conditions
of
the
work
session
and
provide
those
those
detailed
materials
that
were
requested.
A
The
only
condition
that
we
would
recommend
is
that
the
access
on
idaho
street
be
eliminated
to
comply
with
the
plans
that
you
saw
in
november
and
all
access
taken
from
the.
C
E
I'd
just
like
to
clarify
the
with
the
entrance
off
of
idaho.
B
E
Achd
weigh
in
in
the
affirmative
on
that.
A
I'll,
let
mr
chairman
commit
committee
member
erstad
I'll,
let
the
applicant
weigh
in
on.
I
haven't
spoken
to
achd
myself.
My
understanding
is
that
verbally
they
communicate
support
for
that
entrance
because
there
is
an
existing
current
put
on
idaho
street
all
right.
Thank.
D
A
D
Other
questions
for
staff
see
none
at
this
time.
I'd
invite
the
applicant
forward
please,
and
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
F
Jeremy,
malone
with
oppenheimer
development,
877
main
street
suite
700
boise,
idaho
83702,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
commission,
thank
you
so
much
to
josh
and
all
the
city
efforts
for
their
tremendous
support
and
availability
as
we've
navigated
from
november
to
this
point
today
we
appreciate
your
time
to
review
the
application
and
believe
our
project
has
better
design
qualities
today
than
it
in
november.
Based
on
your
comments,
we
also
appreciate
the
staff
support
and
recommendation
of
approval,
with
the
exception
of
the
ingress
off
idaho
street.
F
We
would
like
to
make
a
couple
of
points
regarding
that,
for
your
thoughts
and
discussion,
maybe
we'll
take
a
quick
step.
Back
is
a
reminder.
We
have
300
units
in
our
298
all
round
up
because
I'm
not
a
finance
guy
300
units
in
the
project
and
it's
a
400
space
parking
garage.
So
I'm
assuming
we'll
use
a
one-to-one
ratio.
F
F
The
idea
of
the
ingress
off
of
idaho
street
came
actually
post
our
original
design
review
application
when
we
met
with
a
parking
consultant-
and
they
said
if
you
are
going
to
have
you
know
100
plus
spaces
in
a
garage,
you
need
to
make
sure
it's
visible,
accessible
and
easy
to
access
and
see.
So,
hence
why
this
has
now
come
up
post
our
original
application.
F
The
idea
behind
this
is,
we
were
using
the
existing
curb
cut.
That's
been
off
of
idaho
for
quite
some
time,
and
also
the
safety
of
the
garage
to
have
400
cars
potentially
come
in
and
out
off
of
a
relatively
narrow
alley
was
quite
concerning.
So
we
thought,
having
an
ulterior
entrance
into
the
garage
would
make
sense
with
that.
We
understand
blueprint,
boise's
desire
for
the
free
flow
on
idaho
streets
and
main
streets
for
access.
F
So
partly
that's
the
reason
why
we
did
ingress
only
was
no
egress.
We
figured
a
majority
of
the
traffic
coming
into
the
building
from
idaho
heading
westward.
I
guess
in
the
mornings,
if
you
will
per
se,
is
actually
probably
going
the
opposite
direction
of
normal
traffic
into
the
core,
so
we
felt
ingress
only
was
probably
most
appropriate,
so
we
didn't
add
to
the
element
of
egress
at
five
o'clock
traffic
and
mr
stead's
question
achd
did
send
a
written
approval
that
they
would
accept
this
and
then
we've
had
the
discussions
with
the
city.
G
F
You
know
it
is
probably
closer
to
11th
and
12th,
and
I
say
that
only
because
I
believe
the
record
exchange
has
two
of
the
lots
yeah.
H
F
I'd
assume
100
feet
from
11th
and
probably
200
from
12th
on
a
globe.
It's
just.
E
Mr
chair,
I
I
think
that
those
are
a
lot
of
excellent
considerations
that
you've
put
into
it.
E
E
D
And
you
guys
have
a
new
floor
plan
to
you
right
in
your
that
we
can
look
at
it.
I
think.
D
H
F
H
D
I
My
name
is
nolan
sit
I'm
at
95
yesterday
in
seattle,
suite
200.,
I'm
with
scb,
idaho,
and
then
virtually
we
have
lindsey
von
seigern
with
scb
and
then
brenda
with
site,
design
and
she's
the
landscape
architect.
I
We
were
last
here
november
10th
and
fortunate
to
receive
approval
with
conditions.
The
board
was
interested
in
further
understanding
materials
and
exterior
details,
lighting
around
the
building
and
landscaping,
starting
with
exterior
materials
of
the
tower
we're
proposing
two
glass
types.
The
first
is
a
silvery
blue
glass
proposed
as
a
vre
146.
I
I
I
I
I
Moving
down
into
the
podium
is
our
graphic
silhouettes
of
the
mountains,
we're
proposing
a
printed
pattern
of
charcoal
gray
and
white
fabric
for
the
garage.
What
we
like
about
this
material
is,
it
creates
a
strong
visual
screen
on
the
exterior,
while
being
very
transparent
on
the
interior,
bringing
in
lots
of
natural
lights.
I
This
is
the
residential
entry.
It's
located
on
12th
centered
in
the
building.
We
created
a
metal
portal
that
sits
over
a
granite
base
with
a
wood
canopy
that
signified
the
entrance
moving
to
the
retail
storefront,
we're
showing
a
very
clear
glass
and
aluminum
with
integrated
sunscreen.
In
our
experience,
transparency
at
the
ground
level
is
good
for
both
retailers
and
an
active
streetscape.
I
I
This
is
an
evening
rendering
of
the
podium
with
the
residential
entry
off
of
12th
and
retail
off
of
idaho.
Above
it,
we
anticipate
the
garage
having
a
slight
glow
from
the
lighting
on
the
inside
you'll.
See
different
shades
of
gray
against
the
silhouette,
keeping
the
facade
very
active
day
or
night.
I
Looking
at
the
light
fixtures
we're
specifying
a
luminaire
in
the
parking
garage
that
reflects
light
off
of
the
ceiling
and
reduces
hot
spots
at
the
ground
floor,
we're
proposing
black
vertical
sconces
at
the
columns
and
entry
in
the
lobby,
we're
also
showing
the
historic
street
lights
along
idaho
and
12th,
and
as
far
as
lighting.
This
is
where
we're
showing
it
in
plan
we're
also
adding
a
couple
of
sconces
along
the
alley
to
keep
that
well
lit
and
safe.
I
One
change
we're
proposing
that
we
already
talked
about
is
at
the
ground
floor,
the
vehicular
entry
off
of
idaho,
which
we
talked
about
previously,
so
that's
that
last
purple
arrow
at
the
bottom.
So
that's
an
existing
curb
cut
it's
about
11
feet
wide
in
your
right.
It's
about
200
feet
to
the
north
and
probably
a
little
bit
more
than
100
feet
to
the
south.
So
it's
a
very,
very
mid
block.
I
Along
idaho,
we
have
class
threes
trees,
spaced
approximately
every
27
feet.
The
first
three
are
espressos
and
the
second
three
are
white
oaks
and
then,
along
twelfth
we're
proposing
three
sweet
gums
which
are
class
two
moving
up
to
the
top
of
the
podium.
We
have
those
five
trees
positioned
over
the
columns,
they're
multi-stem
ornamental
trees,
five
to
eight
canes
that
will
mature
to
about
12
feet
tall
with
a
10
foot,
canopy
they're
white,
most
of
the
season
and
will
turn
red
in
autumn.
I
Finally,
moving
to
the
top
of
the
building,
we
have
two
levels:
26
and
27.
26
is
the
main
amenity
level
on
the
deck
we
have
various
seating
groups,
barbecue
a
place
to
stretch
and
pool.
As
for
landscaping,
we're
proposing
trees
around
the
pool
to
create
some
shade
for
residents
and
a
cluster
of
trees
at
27
near
the
hot
tub
to
create
privacy.
I
I
D
Yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
questions
right
now
from
the
committee
for
the
applicant,
mr.
E
Chairman,
mr
stadt,
is
there
a
structural
reason
that
there
are
not
trees
along
the
top
out
to
the
corners.
I
E
D
C
D
I
Yeah,
so
that's
on
idaho,
it's
on
12th
and
then
it's
it's
basically
the
alley
as
well.
There's
one
portion
where
we
have
to
keep
open
and
that's
just
to
maintain
the
openness
of
the
garage
and
then
along
the
interior
lot
line.
That's
got
to
be
a
fire
rated
wall
so
that.
E
G
Mr
chairman,
yes,
so
on
the
site
plan,
it
was
showing
where
you
had
the
points
of
ingress
egress.
There
was
a
arrow
off
of
12th
street
and
it
said
parking
entry.
Is
that
the
entry
into
the
alley
or
is
there
a
separate
parking
structure?
Entry
yeah.
I
G
D
It
was
basically
the
only
thing
that
changed
this
time
was
the
actual,
so
the
retail
space
continued
all
the
way
to
basically
the
neighboring
building
kapoor
right.
C
D
D
I
Yeah,
we
did
look
at
it
as
a
two-way
in
and
out,
but
we
had
the
same
reaction.
We
wanted
to
be
very
sensitive
to
idaho
and
do
the
right
thing
and
we
thought
well,
it's
just
11
feet
that
you
know
and
if
we
make
it
more
of
a
driveway
instead
of
a
true
curb
cut,
it's
a
little
bit
safer
and
better
for
pedestrians.
G
Mr
truman,
yes
is
there
so
when
looking
at
once
you're
up
in
the
parking
structure,
let's
say
that
there
was
some
sort
of
issue
where
you
know
people
like
an
emergency
situation
where
people
couldn't
get
out
into
the
alley.
Is
there
a
way
for
that
traffic
to
get
routed
through
that?
If
they've
had
to
come
out
onto
idaho,
like
from
inside
the
parking
structure
that
come
down
the
ramp
and
come
out
to
idaho,
because
I
think
that's
you
know
along
the
lines
of
what
committee
member
erstad
was
talking
about.
G
I
don't
know
if
this
really
compromises
the
design.
I
think
that
it's
fairly
appropriate.
G
I
The
end
ramp
because
you're
right
so
that
portion
the
in
from
the
alley
and
the
in
from
idaho
they
converge
into
one
ramp
and
it's
also
the
exit
ramp.
So
if
we
needed
to
they
could
get
out
in
the
event
of
an
emergency.
D
A
C
I
Yeah,
so
we're
not
showing
it,
but
we
should
be
showing
a
door
every
other
bay.
That's
what
we're
sort
of
anticipating,
so
the
bays
are
27
feet.
So
it's
about
every
54..
J
D
K
To
use
and
as
I
think
you
said,
the
parking
entry
coming
off
idaho
street
excuse
me
12th
street,
that
that
those
bank
of
elevators
there
were
to
serve
not
the
residential
function,
but
those
other
100
spots
or
so,
whatever
the
balance
is.
Where
would
those
spots
be
located?
What
floor
would
and
within
the
structure?
Are
they
going
to
have
a
designated
floor
that
they
go
to.
K
Okay,
and
with
that
I
don't
have
the
is,
and
the
does
the
parking
garage
portion.
I
don't
have
that
in
this
floor
plan.
I
can't
see.
Does
that
cover
that
floor
plate
that
we
see
here
now
or
is
it
because
I'm
thinking
that,
if
I,
if
I
come
in
as
a
non-resident
and
want
to
park
in
the
garage
on
one
of
those
three
floors,
the
only
access
I
have
to
my
car
later
on
or
wherever
I
want
to
go
from
leading
my
car
is
going
to
be
at
that
northwest
or
that
corner
location
there.
K
K
D
G
G
It
allows
for
replacement
a
little
bit
easier
when
they
and
I
I
would
assume
you
have
some
sort
of
maintenance
agreement
where
those
will
get
replaced,
and
you
know
through
that,
okay
yeah,
I
like
the
tree
choice,
they'll
do
very
well
here
so
and
then
the
rooftop.
I
can
understand
where
that
those
mature
sizes
are
a
little
smaller,
just
because
they're
constrained
a
little
with
their
root
systems
and
but
yeah,
I
I
don't
mind
them
being
away
from
the
edge.
I
understand
what
you're
talking
about
and
the
way
your
columns
lay
too.
G
I
mean
that's
kind
of
the
initial
hearing.
We
talked
about
having
those
over
the
columns
just
because
of
structural
issues,
and
then
you
know
any
irrigation
and
drainage.
You
guys
are
handling
with
like
internal
drained
out
and
running
down
a
storm
drain,
or
something
like
that
that
would
carry
like
the
other
roof
drainage
that
falls
on
this.
Okay,.
C
G
G
D
D
I
think
it
looks
good,
I
guess
some
of
the
other
concerns
we've
had
a
couple
of
those
garages
like
that
is
just
especially
you
have
that
kind
of
subtle
light
coming
in
from
the
garage
with
you,
I
think,
could
be
a
pretty
cool
effect
on
that
and
that
sometimes
it's
a
little
easy
to
over
light
that
entry
to
so
kind
of
just
kind
of
glares
out
there.
But
I'm
sure
you
guys
will
look
at
that
closely.
D
J
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there
are
indeed
as
many
possible
entrances
on
idaho
street,
into
the
building,
both
to
keep
the
rhythm
of
the
retail
going
and
because
we've
had
a
terrible
I'll
call
it
terrible
building
along
main
street.
That
has
a
lot
of
glass
that
doesn't
have
any
entrances
and
it
keeps
how
shall
I
say
this.
J
It
makes
the
pedestrian
experience
less
than
pleasant
and
is
not
inviting,
and
so
I
just
this
is
the
largest
building
to
be
built
in
our
downtown,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
pedestrian
friendly.
And
not
only
can
you
see
in
it,
but
you
see
that
there
are
doors
to
come
in
and
out
that
it
feels
friendly.
I
B
Can
you
can
you
hear
my
voice
here?
This
is
lindsey
yeah.
B
Hi,
I'm
just
chiming
in
here
the
grade
is
relatively
flat.
It's
only
about
a
six
inch
change
through
through
along
this
idaho
street
access,
so
we
certainly
are
going
to
anticipate
we're
at
least
anticipating.
D
E
For
for
comments
as
well-
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
I
think
I
said
in
november-
that
this
is
a
really
exciting
project
and
I
think
you
guys
have
done
a
great
job
thinking
about
details
and
thinking
about
the
way
this
is
going
to
integrate
into
our
community,
and
I
just
want
to
commend
you
on
that.
I
I
hope
that
those
that
follow
take
your
example.
D
Well
said:
well,
if
there
are
any
other
questions
for
the
applicants,
we'll
close
the
public
poll
portion
of
the
meeting
just
bring
back
to
discussion
and
a
recommendation.
A
D
Yes,
sorry
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
on
this
particular
project
tonight,
seeing
none
in
the
audience
any
online?
Okay.
Thank
you,
josh
with
that.
Any
last
word
questions
for
the
applicant
applicant
anything
last
statements.
You
want
to
make
great
well
we'll
come
close
the
public
portion
of
the
test
or
hearing
tonight
and
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
for
discussion
and
an
emotion.
D
I
appreciate
all
the
efforts
that
were
put
forth
and
bringing
in
sizable
materials
that's
very
helpful,
especially
with
the
fabric,
which
is
something
a
little
bit
new
here
tonight
too.
Otherwise,
I'm
good
with
everything
they
have
the
attention
to
detail
the
two
colors
of
glass
that
they
put
the
yeah.
So
I
don't
think
I
have
any
opposition
to
all
the
things
that
we've
asked.
The
only
piece
that
I
think
is
of
any
discussion
would
be
the
access
point.
D
I
understand
you
know
our
position
of
trying
to
limit
that,
but,
as
stated
earlier,
the
the
narrowness
of
the
alleyway
having
this
as
a
single
ingress,
instead
of
one
way
in,
I
think
it's
safer
than
having
a
two-way
piece
coming
out
of
there,
and
I
I
feel
like
I'm
in
support
of
leaving
the
the
access
as
shown
presented
tonight,
but
other
thoughts.
G
Mr
chairman,
I
would
agree.
I
think
that
just
the
in
I
mean
it's
one
way
going
west,
you
take
a
left
in
and
then
you're
exiting
out
into
the
alley.
Anyway.
I
think
it's
appropriate
for
their
that's
pretty
standard
for
that
to
happen
along
idaho
through
most
of
these
retail
and
residential
buildings.
So
I
mean
I'd,
be
supportive
of
of
leaving
that
in
especially
with
achd
chiming
and
saying
that
they
would
be
supportive
of
it.
J
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I
agree
with
that
as
well,
and
I
think
it's
a
lot
safer
to
have
an
ingress
there
so
that
it's
the
car's
responsibility
to
look
out
for
pedestrians
instead
of
pedestrians
having
to
look
out
for
somebody
who's
leaving,
and
I
want
to
echo
what
committee
member
urstead
said.
I
I
appreciate
the
use
of
high
quality
materials
and
the
attention
to
detail
and
really
just
that
you've
bothered
to
put
together
a
beautiful.
J
Well,
it's
the
first
time
I'm
gonna
say
tower,
because
this
is
actually
a
tower,
and
I
hope
that
this
is
a
great
example
for
other
people
that
we
don't
build
cheap
in
boise.
We
build
quality.
So
thank
you
for
setting
that
example.
K
K
I
think
everybody
has
said
what
a
good
project
this
is,
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
it
break
ground
with
that,
I
would
move
to
approve
the
updated
work
session
drawings
dated
and
received
on
january
25th
2022
for
the
discussion
and
findings
contained
in
the
work
session.
Memo
for
the
hearing
dated
february
9th,
with
the
deletion
of
the
exception,
indicated
in
the
in
the
mammal,
so
that
the
access
from
idaho
street
would
remain
in
the
project.
K
D
Second,
any
discussion
on
the
motion:
it's
clear,
great,
christina
wanna,
please
call
the
roll.
A
All
right,
mr
chairman,
thank
you.
Now
we
have
a
presentation
on
the
zoning
code
rewrite
effort.
We
have
some
members
of
the
comprehensive
planning
and
a
community
engagement
team
here
tonight
to
speak
with
you
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
them.
L
That
is
exactly
why
we
are
here
to
speak
with
you
this
evening.
In
2019,
the
city
began
a
endeavor
to
write
our
zoning
code
in
hopes
that
we
could
make
it
better.
We've
been
periodically
meeting
with
you
as
we've
moved
forward
through
the
process,
and
tonight
we
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
in
regard
to
the
schedule.
L
Give
you
a
little
update
regarding
major
changes
as
well
as
introduce
you
a
little
bit
to
the
public
engagement
plan
that
we
have
in
order
to
make
this
a
successful
project.
Knowing
we
have
limited
time,
I'm
going
to
go
through
it
really
quickly,
so
that
we
have
time
for
any
types
of
questions
that
you
might
have.
L
Draft
module
one
was
released
in
april
of
2021
and
we
had
an
extensive
community
engagement
endeavor
from
that,
but
we've
now
moved
on
to
module
two,
which
is
really
the
details
of
the
project,
which
is
really
what's
important
to
the
design
review
committee,
and
so
that
really
talks
about
those
development
and
design
standards
that
are
required
and
really
talk
about
the
quality
of
what
happens
to
a
building
where
that
building
is
placed
in
regard
to
property
lines.
L
Where
parking
is
located
in
regard
to
the
street,
all
in
an
effort
to
make
the
project
the
best
that
it
can
be
and
contribute
to
the
overall
urban
fabric,
then,
once
that's
completed,
we'll
move
on
to
module
three,
which
is
really
how
those
developments
get
approved
so
which
bodies
are
reviewing
those
so
which
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
review
and
approve
who
gets
to
participate
in
the
process
and
when
they
participate,
as
well
as
the
structural
process.
So
when
they
submit
their
application.
L
We
are
currently
beginning
our
citywide
outreach
as
part
of
draft
module.
2.
draft
module,
2
was
released
at
the
end
of
january,
so
february,
march
and
april
are
going
to
be
a
heavy
lift
and
we're
going
to
be
out
in
the
community
talking
to
our
community,
our
elected
and
appointed
officials,
as
well
as
our
development
computing
community
as
to
what
their
thoughts
and
reactions
are
in
regard
to
draft
module
two.
L
But
while
we're
out
doing
that,
we're
also
going
to
be
drafting
draft
module
three,
as
well
as
getting
everything
prepared
as
we
move
forward,
because
after
we
have
all
of
our
community
engagement
for
module,
two
release
module
three
and
have
that
outreach.
We're
going
to
create
a
consolidated
plan.
So
that's
going
to
be
us
putting
together
each
one
of
those
installments
into
a
single
document
so
that
we
can
see
how
all
of
them
interact
with
one
another.
L
So
once
we
have
that
completed,
we
will
go
ahead
and
open
that
up
again
to
make
sure
that
our
community,
our
elected
and
appointed
officials,
as
well
as
our
development
community,
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
comment
and
recommendations.
In
regard
to
that.
So
we'll
go
ahead
and
release
that
full
draft
code.
We
do
have
hopes
that
by
the
fall
or
winter
of
2022,
we
will
have
a
complete
document.
That's
ready
for
submittal
and
that'll
begin
our
process
through
the
public
hearing
process
we'll
be
able
to
visit
with
planning
and
zoning
commission
for
a
recommendation.
L
L
So
we
wanted
to
go
over
just
a
little
bit
about
what's
happening
with
module
2.
Some
of
those
key
changes
there'll
be
a
number
of
minor
changes
that
occur,
but
we're
going
to
kick
you
off
and
let
you
know
what
those
major
changes
are:
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
deanna
dupuy
with
our
housing
division.
M
Thanks,
andrea
hi,
everyone,
I'm
deanna
dupuis,
and
I'm
going
to
go
over
these
changes
pretty
quickly.
We've
bucketed
them
into
eight
changes
and
they're
very
high
levels.
So-
and
this
is
exactly
the
same
content
that
we're
sharing
with
our
community
as
committee
members,
I'm
sure
you'll
want
to
dig
more
deeply
into
it
and
we'd
love
to
have
your
feedback.
You
know
on
the
day-to-day
practitioner
level,
so
our
first
change
that
we're
communicating
to
the
public
is
that
our
update
of
dimensional
requirements,
specifically
around
minimum
lot
size
almost
in
all
residential
zones.
M
In
addition
to
the
minimum
lot
requirement,
updates,
we've
also
removed
the
calculation
for
density.
We
recognize
that
density
is
just
one
simple
attempt
to
quantify
the
impact
of
a
new
development,
but
that
there
are
various
ways
to
measure
that
and
we
want
to
focus
more
on
design
and
performance
criteria,
so
making
sure
that
that
building
is
the
right
height,
that
it
has
enough
parking
that
is
situated
correctly
on
the
property
and
those
are
going
to
be
our
guiding
posts
or
the
objective
criteria
instead
of
a
number
of
no
maximum
units
per
acre.
M
And
I
think
that
this
picture
shows
a
good
example,
the
built
in
as
committee
members.
You
probably
know
better
than
most
that
the
buildings
may
look
exactly
the
same,
but
there's
different
numbers
of
kitchens,
and
sometimes
our
code
will
just
require
that
oh
too
many
house,
too
many
units,
so
it
can't
get
built.
M
On
the
flip
side,
though,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
providing
predictability
to
our
residents,
so
we're
building
into
our
zoning
code.
Existing
protected
neighborhood
protection
standards,
and
this
is
by
requiring
additional
setbacks
or
reduced
height
for
a
certain
amount
of
distance,
to
provide
that
predictability
for
residents
to
understand
as
new,
more
intensive
developments
such
as
larger
apartments
or
commercial
buildings
come
in.
I
know
that
my
shape
that
my
sunlight,
that
noise
will
be
reasonably
mitigated.
M
We
also
have
included
a
new
incentive.
We
do
already
have
incentives
in
our
zoning
code,
but
specifically
in
an
attempt
to
reduce
the
harms
of
new
development
on
our
environment,
so
we've
added
the
sustainable
resilient
development,
which
we
offer
a
parking
incentive
in
exchange
for
certain
certifications
and
for
water
or
energy
savings.
M
M
For
this
we've
looked
at
our
community,
not
everyone
owns
two
cars,
and
not
all
housing
units
have
two
cars
so
we're
by
mandating
two
units
we're
making
people
pay
for
a
parking
that
they
may
not
need
to
use,
as
well
as
advancing
some
of
our
environmental
goals
by
reducing
the
potential
for
large
amounts
of
pavement,
and
instead
we
could
see
more
perfect
pervious
surfaces
being
built
and
that,
as
we
move
forward
as
the
city,
we
don't
want
to
continually
increase
our
dependency
on
vehicles
but
to
start
exploring
a
more
multimodal
community.
M
This
may
also
be
relevant
for
the
committee.
We
are
expanding
and
actually
codifying
our
building
and
design
criteria
so
putting
these
citywide
design
guidelines
into
our
code
and
so
that
they
apply
to
all
properties
within
across
the
city.
M
M
So
we've
collated
all
that
and
actually
are
putting
that
into
our
code
so
that
we
can
advance
those
goals
and
then
our
last
change
is
again
creating
a
new
section
called
operations
and
maintenance.
There's
often
a
lot
of
times
where
we
have
conditions
of
approval,
such
as
landscaping
trees
and
that
they
need
to
be
maintained,
long
term
and
so
we're.
M
Actually,
you
know
providing
some
teeth
to
our
conditions
in
which
that
we
can
hold
this
up
to
make
sure
those
that
landscaping
is
maintained
for
the
long
term,
and
I
know
I
went
through
that
quick
and
there's
a
lot
of
information
in
there.
But
that's
just
the
high
level
and
we'd
be
happy
to
have
any
conversation
on
that
later.
But
before
we
get
into
that
I'll.
Let
lindsay
cover
how
we're
communicating
this
to
our
community.
N
Thanks
deanna
I'd
now
like
to
present
the
community
engagement
plan
for
module
two
of
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
we
learned
from
module,
one
that
was
important
for
us
to
focus
on
the
quality
of
the
conversations
with
the
community,
and
if
that
means
taking
our
time
with
the
strategic
community
engagement
plan,
then
we
should
do
so.
Sony
is
technical
and
a
confusing
topic
and
can
be
difficult
to
understand.
We
needed
to
break
down
the
zoning
code
and
find
a
way
to
have
meaningful
and
personal
conversations
with
boiseans.
N
So
in
advance
of
the
release
of
module.
Two
we
put
together
a
couple
documents.
The
first
one
is
a
document
called
how
to
read
module
two.
This
really
guides
the
community
on
how
to
read
it
and
specifically
looking
at
topics
that
might
be
of
interest
to
them,
not
necessarily
reading
it,
maybe
from
front
to
cover
a
400
page
document
can
be
intimidating.
N
We
also
want
to
provide
a
few
reference
points,
as
you
can
see
on
the
right
a
lot
of
times.
People
might
not
understand
when
we
reference
five
feet.
10
feet
20
feet,
so
we
want
to
give
a
few
fun.
Idaho
focused
reference
points
when
you
think
20
feet,
think
the
length
of
a
white
water
raft
or
think
five
feet
think
the
length
of
a
mountain
bike.
N
The
third
is
the
interactive
conversion
map.
This
was
made
by
through
the
gis
system
that
you
can
navigate
around
you'll,
see
the
proposed
zoning
code
districts
on
the
left
and
then
the
current
on
the
right,
there's
also
a
legend
that
works
with
this.
We
have
available
in
pdf
format
as
well,
but
people
can
zoom
in
zoom
out
type
in
their
own
address
and
it
gives
all
the
details
of
those
current
zones
and
the
proposed
zones.
N
We
started
our
community
outreach
last
night
on
the
central
bench
and
we
will
be
out
in
the
community
throughout
february
march
and
april,
as
you
can
see
we're
headed
to
each
of
the
planning
areas.
We
have
specific
examples
that
we're
providing
the
community
on
what
this
might
mean
for
their
neighborhood.
N
We
also
have
four
general
facing
community
outreach,
a
couple
on
zoom
and
then
also
two
that
are
focused
on
housing
and
zoning
code
in
the
winter.
When
we're
having
a
lot
of
housing
outreach,
zoning
codes
seemed
to
come
up
a
lot
in
the
conversation
with
those,
so
we
thought
it
was
important
to
kind
of
bridge
the
gap
and
have
those
conversations
together.
N
N
These
are
two
specific
examples
that
we
are
providing
to
the
community,
we'll
provide
one
commercial
and
one
residential
for
each
planning
area
and
then
we'll
have
call
outs
within
each
of
those
highlighting
some
of
the
different
changes.
Whether
that's
trees,
whether
that's
setbacks,
building
height,
etc,.
N
We
will
have
two
surveys
that
will
be
available
february,
24th
to
april
10th.
The
first
one
is
a
technical
user
survey,
which
is
people
that
use
it
the
zoning
code
on
a
more
regular
basis,
architects,
planners
and
builders,
and
then
we
took
that
survey
and
broke
it
down
into
a
more
community
focused
language.
That
is
a
community
survey
that
will
also
be
translated
in
spanish.
N
Those
will
be
out
and
available
in
the
community
february.
24Th
we'll
have
lots
of
posters
around
town
as
well,
and
you
can
see
as
we
released
module
two.
We
began
our
outreach
and
we'll
have
our
surveys
open
february
24th
through
april
10th,
and
our
next
citywide
advisory
committee
meeting
is
february.
17Th
that's
next
week
and
with
that
we'll
stand
for
any
questions
you
might
have.
D
E
Chairman,
yes,
I'm
sure
that
this
is
either
under
consideration
or
is
certainly
within
the
near
term.
First
consideration,
but
the
mechanism
for
altering
a
zone.
It
would
still
remain
relatively
similar
like
a
rezone
or
anything
like
that.
L
Committee
president
marsh
committee,
member
ersted,
that's
actually
part
of
module
three,
so
we
haven't
really
gotten
that
far,
but
typically
you
know
we
will
be
following
local
land
use
planning
act
as
our
guiding
document.
So
typically,
in
that
regard,
planning
and
zoning
is
a
recommending
body
with
city
council.
Being
your
final
determination.
E
L
Just
as
a
follow-up,
the
zoning
code
rewrite
is
a
separate
entity,
above
and
beyond
what
the
comprehensive
plan
will
do.
So
those
are
two
separate
documents,
so
we
currently
have
the
existing
2011
boise
city,
comprehensive
plan
that
is
remaining
in
existence.
The
zoning
code
rewrite
is
actually
the
tool
to
help
us
implement
that
vision
and
those
goals
that
are
established
there.
E
Awesome,
thank
you
and
just
as
a
sidebar,
this
is.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
all
the
work
you
guys
are
doing.
It's
a
heavy
lift
just
coming
through
the
code
to
try
and
figure
out
what
you
need
to
do
much
less
coming
through
the
code
to
figure
out
how
you
can
improve
upon
it
so
very
impressed
by
the
work.
Thank
you
guys.
J
Mr
chair,
yes,
I
have
a
very
specific
question
to
ask,
so
I
saw
the
proposed
parking
reduction
and
I
have
heard
quite
a
few
complaints
from
people,
especially
in
the
north
end,
who
are
required
to
have
driveways
into
detached
garages
and
that
the
driveway
doesn't
count
as
a
parking
pad.
Are
you
looking
into
that
as
well
when
you're
looking
into
parking
reduction
requirements.
L
L
Now,
if
it's
alley
loaded,
that's
it's
a
completely
different
scenario,
so
you
would
not
have
a
front
loaded
and
then
you,
of
course,
would
not
have
a
typical
driveway.
So
even
when
we
say
hey,
there
might
be
the
opportunity
for
a
single
front
loaded
parking
stall.
You
would
still
have
the
driveway
apron
functioning
as
a
second
space
or
a
visitor
space.
J
All
right,
I'm
referring
to
alley
loaded
that,
like
east
end
and
north
end
style
garages
that
currently
require
a
certain
amount
of
feet
of
driveway
that
feed
into
that
garage.
Is
that
going
to
be
reassessed.
L
So
currently,
I
think,
and
maybe
I'll
need
to
follow
up
with
that.
So
currently
you
have
a
an
apron
that
is
required
from
the
edge
of
the
alley,
but
typically
that
is
only
enough
to
provide
sufficient
backup
space
which
would
be
22
feet.
So
we
are
evaluating,
you
know
all
of
the
dimensional
standards.
At
this
point
we
are
recommending
a
22
foot,
backup
space
for
any
vehicle,
so
whether
that
would
be
in
a
commercial
dry,
vial
or
within
an
alley.
You
would
still
have
the
apron.
L
Well,
thank
you
and
please
participate
in
any
of
the
community
engagement
events
that
we
have
on
february.
24Th
we'll
be
having
that
survey,
that's
out.
So
if
you
have
any
recommendations
or
comments
that
you'd
like
to
provide,
make
sure
that
you
forward
those
on,
we
want
to
make
it
a
good
document.
This
is
an
important
one
to
get
right.
A
All
right,
mr
schumer,
I'll
just
real
quickly,
run
through
the
agenda
about
time
to
get
the
meeting
started.
So
as
ref
as
documented
in
your
packets,
we
are
recommending
deferral
on
the
first
three
items
items
one
two
and
three
will
be
deferred.
A
G
Thanks
josh
yeah,
mr
chairman,
yes,
I
will
be
recusing
myself
from
number
seven
completely
in
any
discussion
or
decision
making.
As
my
firm
is
the
representative
for
the
owner.
D
K
A
Okay,
and
with
that
it's
six
o'clock,
we
can
get
started.
D
D
Next
item
is
I
just
like
to
take
a
motion
for
the
approval
of
the
january
12
20
22
minutes.
D
D
Second,
thank
you,
mr
zabala,
christina
you
please
call
the
roll.
K
C
Marsh
hi,
hackerman,
hi
ersten
hi
motion
carries
great.
D
Well
tonight
we
we
have
four
items
up
for
deferral.
First,
item
to
be
considered
for
our
deferrals
item
number
one:
that's
drh21.
D
Location
is
6259
south
pleasant
valley,
road,
it's
for
the
construction
of
a
new,
approximately
1
million
80
289
square
foot,
warehouse
and
distribution
center,
with
98
truck
docks
and
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
pending
in
m1
the
zone,
and
this
would
be
deferred
to
the
march
9th
hearing.
D
D
Its
location
is
2500
east
freight
street
for
the
construction
of
a
new,
approximately
185
300
square
foot,
industrial
building
with
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
in
the
m2d
zone.
Again,
is
there
any
member
of
the
public
who
cannot
make
the
march
9th
date
that
is
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item?
C
D
D
D
West
executive
drive
it's
for
the
construction
of
a
new,
approximately
29
400
square
foot,
single-story
industrial
building
with
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
in
an
m1d
zone
and
again
is
there
any
member
of
the
public
public
audience
here
or
online
wishing
to
speak
to
this
item?
Who
cannot
make
the
march
9th
hearing
date
see
none
in
person
joshie
online?
D
Let's
complete
our
items
to
be
for
our
deferral
tonight
and
with
that
I
would
be
open
for
a
motion.
G
D
That
item
to
be
considered
for
our
consent
agenda
is
item
number
five.
It's
zero
drh22-0006
location
is
seventy
thirty
one
south
heisman's
road,
it's
for
the
construction
of
three
new
industrial
buildings.
So
only
approximately
three
hundred
ninety
two
thousand
square
feet
with
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
in
an
m
one
d
zone
is
the
applicant
present
tonight.
D
Great
thank
you
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
recommended
conditions
of
approval?
We
are
in
agreement.
Please
let
rick
show
the
applicant
is
in
agreement
and
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
in
person
or
online
that
are
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item
tonight,
seeing
none
in
person
josh
in
the
online?
No,
so
that
item
will
be
considered
for
a
consent
agenda
and
that's
the
only
item
for
a
consent
agenda.
So
at
this
point
I
would
take
a
blow
or
excuse
me.
K
K
K
D
O
O
The
project
proposes
to
provide
49
total
parking
spaces,
two
of
those
being
ada
accessible
with
five
bicycle
parking.
Spaces
access
would
be
taken
off
both
wildwood
way
and
gabriel
drive
with
cross
access
available
to
the
site
directly
west
pedestrian
connectivity
is
shown
to
provide
access
from
the
right
of
way
on
gabriel
drive
to
the
front
entrance
on
the
south
vacate
the
first
floor
of
the
building
contains
five
dance
studios,
waiting,
room,
restroom
merchandise,
store
office
and
break
room.
O
O
D
E
Mr
chairman,
yes,
on
the
vast
majority
of
projects
that
cross
the
city's
desk,
it
seems
like
the
the
buzzword,
is
new
urbanism
and
the
way
that
a
building
addresses
the
street.
Is
there
no
requirement
for
this
building
to
be
connected
to
the
street
frontage?
Aside
from
you
know,
nominal
pedestrian
pathways
around
the.
O
Mr
chairman
and
committee
member
arstad,
so
within
this
area
there
are
no
specific
block
frontage
requirements
and
parking
requirements
so
normally
like.
If
you
were
to
go
up
a
block
on
fairview,
there
is
a
requirement
to
have
the
store
coming
up
towards
the
street,
with
parking
towards
the
side
and
the
rear
in
this
location.
You
don't
have
that
requirement.
O
D
D
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
questions
for
staff.
At
the
moment.
Great
is
the
applicant
present.
Yes,
yes,
please,
if
you'd
like
to
come
forward
and
present
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
if
you
would
and
you're
able.
H
Commissioner,
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is:
glenn
walker,
1831,
east
overland,
road
meridian,
idaho,
as
a
planner
mentioned
that
this
project
is
a
two-story
dance
studio
facility
for
my
client,
which
is
owns
a
dance
studio
literally
just
about
a
block
to
the
west
of
this
building,
she's
leasing,
the
building
right
now
and
then
she's
going
to
be
wanting
to
build
and
construct
this
new
facility.
H
One
of
the
comments
that
was
brought
up
was
if
we
could
shift
the
building
and
put
parking
on
the
north
side,
and
when
I
asked
the
client
that
she
was
like
really.
I
don't
want
to
do
that,
because
her
business
is
90,
which
is
a
really
high
high
number
of
drop,
drop
off
and
pick
up,
and
she
said
a
lot
of
her
clients
don't
park
there,
really
that
parents
come,
they
drop
their
students
off
and
then
they
come
back
and
pick
them
up.
H
She
said
a
vast
majority
of
her
students
are
younger
age,
kids
and
a
good
portion
of
them
are
females,
but
so
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
kind
of
kept
the
building
where
it
was
at.
H
But
we
do
feel
that
this
building
is
a
very
nice
looking
building
it's
off
a
fairview,
it's
not
really
on
fairview,
it's
just
behind
some
other
buildings
that
are
frontage
front,
fairview
avenue
we
we
front
gabrielle
drive,
and
so
we
feel
this
building
fits
the
needs
of
the
owners
and
feel
that
it's
a
good
good
project
for
this
type
of
development
or
this
type
of
use.
D
E
E
E
B
H
Well,
let
me
speak
real
quick,
because
I
brought
this
up
to
my
client
and
we've
kind
of
agreed
to
it,
and
it
didn't
show
up
on
these
plans,
and
it
was
after
the
fact
that
we
have
submitted.
We
have
the
corners
being
wrapped
with
a
high-grade
metal
sighting
and
we
had
talked
about
doing
the
same
thing
on
the
back
side
as
well.
H
E
Okay,
I
think
I'd
personally
like
to
see
that
the
that
banding
around
your
your
base
be
suggested
along
the
top
as
well
or
along
the
along
the
back.
Just
do
what
you
can
to
sort
of
mimic
what
is
present
on
the
front,
facade,
yeah.
H
On
the
back
yeah,
we
could
do
that
and
we
could
look
at
different
bands.
You
know
different
within
that
wall,
putting
some
different
band
colors
in
the
cmu
block.
That's
a
that
wall's,
a
cme
block
one
hour
rated
wall.
D
I
think
those
are
some
good
comments,
ryan
good
to
clarify
that
with
the
with
the
applicant.
Otherwise,
I'm
fine,
with
the
siding
of
the
building
personally,
so
especially
kind
of
keeps
the
building
a
little
farther
away
from
those
residents
to
the
south.
So
anybody
else
have
any
other
comments
or
certainly
entertain
emotions,
everybody's
ready.
D
D
G
D
P
The
proposed
scope
of
work
is
five:
substandard
single-family
homes
located
on
six
substandard
original
lots
of
record.
I
just
encourage
you
to
take
note
on
this
site
plan
of
the
north
arrow
facing
right.
So
lot,
11
is
the
most
northern
property
and
then
lot
1516
is
the
southernmost
property
it's
next
to
nes
per
street.
P
P
P
The
open
space
and
part
of
the
yard
is
located
along
nez
perce
street
at
the
lower.
What
would
that
be
south
west
corner
of
this
landscaping
plan?
There
was
an
open
space,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
site
plan
here,
staff
and
comprehensive
planning
recommended
that
that
area
be
closed
off
with
either
fencing
or
landscaping
to
discourage
access
or
parking
there,
which
the
applicant
has
complied
with.
P
Now,
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
elevations
so
on
the
left.
Elevations
here
are
repeated
on
lot,
11
and
lot.
13.
la
11
again
is
the
northernmost
lot.
It
abuts
a
partial,
two-story
structure,
which
I'll
show
a
picture
of
in
a
moment,
so
the
design
for
all
of
these
substandard
law
homes
is
a
full
two-story
design.
Most
of
them
are
a
little
bit
over
23
feet,
tall
with
the
midline
being
18
feet,
3
inches
for
the
most
part
or
somewhere
around
there.
P
P
P
So
on
the
left,
we
have
lot
1516,
that's
the
most
southern
lot
along
nez
perce
across
the
street.
It
abuts
a
single
story
structure,
whereas
the
other,
the
northernmost
abutted,
a
partial
two-story
structure,
a
full
two-story
design
there
again,
which
staff
would
recommend
reducing
to
a
partial
two-story
on
the
right.
I
wanted
to
provide
the
garage
elevation
staff
had
no
comments
on
those,
so
just
for
your
reference
here
are
the
different
materials
and
color
blocking
that's
used
some
renderings
here
or
perspective,
drawing
so
that
you
can
see
what
these
structures
look
like.
P
It's
clear
that
they're
all
two-story
designs.
However,
they
do
offer
a
lot
in
regards
to
mix
of
materials
that
are
being
used.
Styling
differences,
changes
in
roof
line,
modulation
and
vertical
modulation,
along
with
covered
entryways
again
la
11
and
lot
1516
meet
the
full
two
story
and
they
would,
by
code,
need
to
meet
partial
two-story
definitions.
P
So
just
for
your
reference
that
smaller
structure
on
the
right,
there
is
the
demolished
structure
and
is
where
the
subject
properties
are
located.
The
structure
on
the
left
is
the
northernmost
neighbor
to
the
property,
so
a
budding
law
11..
P
P
I
did
receive
some
public
opposition
to
this
development
in
general.
The
commenter
just
provided
that
there
was
some
damage
that
occurred
to
their
fencing
when
the
houses
were
demolished
and
they
wanted
to
ensure
that
I
mentioned
at
this
hearing
that
that
happened
and
they
want
to
prevent
any
further
damage
happening
to
any
of
the
surrounding
properties.
If
these
are
to
be
approved
with
that
in
mind,
staff
recommends
approval
with
conditions
of
drh22-0003.
D
The
none
is
the
applicant
present.
Q
Hi
good
evening,
yes,
ryan,
lehrman,
developer
builder
of
the
project
is
present.
D
Well,
thank
you
anything
that
you'd
like
to
add
to
staff's
presentation.
Q
Yeah
first
mckayla,
thank
you
for
the
report
regarding
what
michaela
touched
on
regarding
a
full,
full
two
story
on
lot:
11,
and
that
would
page
nine.
If
we
could
reference
the
left
elevation
of
that
parcel
the
design
intent.
You
know
I
a
I
wanna.
You
know
we
really
try
to
keep
good
symmetry
across
all
five
parcels
and
secondly,
we
really
tried
to
design
the
left
elevation
of
parcel
11
to
maximize
the
privacy
of
that
northern
neighbor,
which
I
believe
we
which
we
did.
Q
We
we
we
did
two
small
transom
windows
that
you
know
really
are
there
just
to
allow
some
natural
light
in
which
would
give
total
privacy
to
the
northern
neighbor
I'm
worried
if
we
had
to
do
a
one
and
a
half
or
kind
of
a
partial
story
with
say
a
dormer,
you
know
we'd
be
we'd,
be
those
that
dormer
would
be
opposing
that
northern
neighbor
and
be
staring
right
into
their
window.
So
I
feel
like
this
is
a
better
design,
even
though
it
is
too
a
full
two-story.
D
None
thank
you.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
on
this
item?
Yes,
please
come
forward
and
if
you
would
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
R
Okay,
I'm
julie,
helvey!
I
live
at
3707
nest,
person
boise
so
go
to
the
next
slide.
I'm
going
to
jump
right
into
this.
The
previous
project,
which
is
north
of
these
properties
by
brian
peavy,
was
a
substandard
development.
This
would
be
slide
two
and
the
achd
district
policy.
7210
said
he
had
to
open
the
alley
and
pave
it
go
to
slide
three.
R
I
think
you're
ahead
of
me
about
a
couple
of
slides.
Go
back,
one
go
back
another
one,
all
right!
There's
the
district
policy
says
he
has
to
pay
the
alley
and
open
it
next
slide,
and
he
should
go
through
the
process
to
get
that
alley
open
next
slide.
R
Those
were
their
specific
conditions
of
approval
for
the
previous
development.
All
right
next
slide,
please,
okay,
this
is
for
ben
and
the
same
policy
72102
says
he
needs
to
if
he
has
to
take
access
from
the
alley
he
needs
to
pave
it
and
he
needs
to
open
it,
and
I
want
to
assure
that's
going
to
happen
for
some
reason,
because
the
previous
developer
next
door
just
didn't
want
to
do
it.
R
R
This
is
a
picture
of
the
garages.
My
next
ask
would
be
that
these
garages
not
be
connected.
Many
of
these
developments
have
been
built
with
separate
garages
per
the
individual
units
and
the
massing.
When
I
look
out,
my
front
window
is
going
to
be
garage
after
garage
after
garage,
and
I
don't
think
that's
in
keeping
with
the
spirit
of
new
development
and
and
making
things
look
the
best
they
can
he'll
have
to
work
with
those
dimensions.
R
He's
got
21
and
a
half
feet,
or
so
by
22.,
so
he's
got
individual
homes,
but
he
wants
to
join
the
garages
and
I
think
that's
just
a
little
bit
off
and
if
the
homes
are
supposed
to
be
one
and
a
half
stories,
I
think
they
should
be
one
and
a
half
stories
that
little
home
they
showed.
You
was
one
of
many
very
small
one-story
homes
surrounding
the
area.
R
So
next
slide
there
again
it
should
be
a
paved
driveway,
apron
or
an
alley
will
also
or
a
paved
alley
will
also
be
required
next
slide,
and
he
may
request
a
waiver.
He
may
say:
oh
well,
I've
done
it
better.
Well,
the
ordinance
shall
not
negatively
impact
the
existing
neighborhood
and
shall
enhance
the
overall
design
quality
of
the
project
and
granting
a
such
relief
will
not
be
materially
detrimental
to
the
public,
health,
safety
or
welfare,
or
just
property
improvements
or
the
quality
enjoyment
of
surrounding
properties.
That's
me
going
real
fast
next
slide.
Please.
R
Yeah
and
you're
supposed
to
pay
attention
to
the
massing,
the
construction
of
the
buildings.
So
next
slide,
please
ma'am
you're!
Out
of
time,
can
I
just
show
you
one
picture
sure.
R
Agenda
tonight
this
is
from
my
kitchen
window,
I'll,
see
19
additional
trips
a
day
about
10.
R
new
garages
so
about
two
a
day
and
that's
what
comes
to
my
kitchen
window,
and
so
I'm
asking
if
ben
wants
to
buy
me
a
little
tree
or
a
bush
that
I
can
put
out
in
front
of
my
kitchen
window
and
I'll
name
it
ben,
but
please
don't
create
problems
and
leave
things
half
done
to
be
in
not
enjoyed
by
the
existing
neighbors.
Thank
you
for.
K
S
Mary
moran,
I
am
at
37-11
west
men's
purse
street.
We
moved
there
in
2020
and
these
homes.
H
S
The
alleyway,
if
it
is
not
paved,
those
are
the
two
main
concerns
that
I
have
you
know
all
the
dirt
and
everything
from
the
alleyway,
as
well
as
the
headlights
and
the
traffic
going
in
this
gaining
way,
and
I
did
happen
to
notice
on
one
of
the
schematics
was
there
there
didn't
seem
to
be
the
bus,
stop
on
the
picture
showing
on
the
last
southernmost
lot,
and
I
didn't
know
if
that
bus
stop
was
going
to
be
moved
or
if
they
just
neglected,
to
put
it
onto
their
picture.
D
Q
D
Q
Yeah,
so
you
know
first
off
I,
you
know
I
can't
speak
for
you
know
the
original
developer
or
builder
of
those
northernmost
properties.
You
know
that's
a
hundred
percent
out
of
my
control,
what
he
or
she
did
or
did
not
abide
by
with
achd
approval.
Regarding
that
ally,
I
have
received
the
report
and
we
will
100
go
through
that
and
abide
by
every
recommendation
in
the
achd
report.
But
again
I
can't
I
can't
speak
to
what
the
original
you
know
developer
of
that
northern
property
can
or
can't
do.
Q
Or
did
I
guess
the
other
thing
is
with
with
those
the
reason
I
on
those
detached
garages.
The
reason
I
attach
them
in
twos
is
because
it
enables
me
to
do
a
wider
garage
door
at
18
feet
versus
most
of
those
detached
garages
are
only
16
feet
and
there's
just
no
way.
You
can
get
two
cars
in
those
by
attaching
them.
Q
It
gives
me
a
little
more
space
and
I
can
you
know,
do
an
increased
garage
door
and
at
18
feet,
and
it
just
enables
you
know-
easily
parking
two
cars
in
those
garages
which
frees
up
street
space
and
let's
see,
if
I'm
missing
something,
I
think
that's
you
know
and-
and
I
guess
just
in
closing-
I'm
going
through
I'm
going
with
the
code.
You
know
with
what
I
can
and
can't
do
on
these
substandard
lots.
Q
K
Mr
chairman,
one
quick
question,
mr
lehmann,
I
I
from
the
plans
that
you
provided.
I
assume
that
lots
11
through
14
are
basically
single
family
residences.
My
question
on
lot:
the
remaining
lot
there
on
lots,
15
and
16.
K
Q
Will
it
will
be
a
rental
kind
of
affordable
housing
because
of
the
bus
stop
right
there
and
the
mass
transit
that
will
be
more
of
a
investment
type
rental
property?
Yes,.
K
J
I
have
a
question
as
well.
I
I
see
that
the
the
entrances
or
the
fronts
of
the
buildings
don't
line
up,
and
I
know
that
in
most
neighborhoods
and
generally
in
urban
design,
we
want
all
of
the
fronts
of
the
buildings.
To
line
up.
Is
there
a
reason
that
lots,
14
and
12
have
the
buildings
moved
closer
to
the
sidewalk
than
the
others.
Q
D
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
and
with
that
we'll
close
the
public
portion
of
the
testimony
and
bring
back
to
the
committee
for
discussion
and
emotion.
J
Mr
chairman,
yes,
mr
secretary,
I
have
a
lot
of
issues
with
this
development
and
I
really
think
that
there
are
more
issues
with
the
code
than
with
the
development.
J
I
know
we
have
a
minimum
or
sorry
we
have
guidelines
as
to
you
know
varying
colors
and
undulation
and
different
roof
lines,
and
I
think
this
project
took
those
minimums
and
ran
with
them
a
little
too
far.
Everything
looks
very
jumbled
to
me
and
if
we
looked
at
that
original
white
cottage
on
this,
it
was
on
this
purse.
Is
that
correct
that?
J
Thank
you
like
that?
That
is
what
you
see
in
that
neighborhood
and
then
what
we
see
proposed
before
us
is
exactly
the
opposite
of
that.
It's
like
every
building
has.
J
I
can't
count
that
quickly,
five
four
or
five
roof
lines
of
its
own
in
a
single
building,
and
you
know
several
colors,
several
different
materials
and
I
I'm
having
trouble
deciding
whether
it's
that's
on
the
developer
or
that's
on
our
that's
an
error
in
our
code,
because
I
don't
think
any
building
should
ever
look
like
this
and
that
this
they
look
sort
of
like
dentist
offices
to
me
or
like
they
should
be
pushed
together
and
be
a
strip
mall.
I
mean
it
it.
J
I
I
don't
know
how
we
can
allow
this
to
get
built
and
the
fact
that
there
are
two
buildings
that
are
by
our
code.
That
are,
you
know,
don't
start
the
same
as
the
other
three
buildings
that
that
makes
zero
sense
to
me
as
well.
I
you
know,
I
I
mean
if
you
look
at
the
older
neighborhoods
in
the
city,
the
east
and
the
north
end
a
lot
of
parts
of
the
bench,
including
around
here
everything
lines
up
the
fronts
of
all
the
buildings
line.
D
Okay,
are
the
comments
I
guess
to
kind
of
summarize
I
mean
the
the
alternate
I
think
is
when
you
try
to
put
that
code
in
is.
We
could
have
basically
five
identical
buildings
with
exactly
the
same
color,
with
no
character
between
any
of
them,
which,
I
think,
that's
you
know,
part
of
the
basis
of
trying
to
mix
up
roof
lines.
Mix
up
colors
provide
some
design
irregular
the
regularities
as
we
go
across
there
yeah.
D
It
may
not
be
my
favorite
either,
but
I
I
don't
think
I
don't
find
it
offensive
by
any
means,
but
I'd
open
it
up
to
anybody
else's
thoughts
and
comments.
E
E
I
recognize
that
the
the
code
for
the
substandard
lot
would
indicate
that
those
need
to
be
18
feet
at
midline
of
the
roof,
particularly
particularly
for
lot
1516,
given
that
that
is
across
a
public
right-of-way,
so
easily
60
feet
away
from
the
nearest
house.
I
don't
necessarily
believe
that
that
needs
to
be
fully
reduced
to
a
partial
two
story.
E
E
As
far
as
lot
11
goes,
it's
a
bit
of
a
conundrum.
I
think
you
know
that
I
would
propose
the
same,
eliminate
the
shed
roof
on
that,
and
that
gets
you
closer
into
compliance,
but
I
believe
they're
18
feet
to
the
top
plate
of
those
second
story,
walls-
and
that
seems
like
it's
awfully
close,
particularly
when
they're
next
to
a
building
of
similar
mass
and
scale.
E
It's
close
enough
for
jazz,
which
is
the
whole
point
in
infill
right,
you're,
we're
looking
for
diversity,
we're
not
looking
for
absolute
uniformity,
so
I
I
I
think
if
we
knock
a
couple
shed
roofs
off
and
set
them
as
a
standard
gable,
keeping
in
line
where
they
currently
sit
with
the
eaves
we
we
ought
to
be
making
this
much
more
palatable
to
the
nearby
neighborhood.
E
I
recognize
that
new
development
within
a
several
decades
old
neighborhood
will
always
stick
out,
but
I
think
there's
a
certain
amount
of
growing
pains
that
we're
going
to
feel
in
this
city.
That
cannot
always
be
avoided.
D
D
I
think
I'd
agree
with
you
on
lot.
15
and
16.
D
kind
of
the
interesting
thing
is
you
kind
of
sit
back
from
lots,
11
and
12
and
13
and
14
with
these
substandard
lots,
as
you
kind
of
look
at
it,
those
basically,
the
two
shed
roots,
make
a
gable
roof
themselves
and
so
kind
of
have
a
nod
to
a
gable
roof
element
that
I
don't
think
those
bother
me.
I
do
believe
I
do
like
your
thought
of
eliminating
the
shed
roof
on
basically
the
lot
1516
side,
and
is
there
an
elevation
of
that
street
side
of
lot
1516
to
help
bring
down
the
mass.
D
D
As
for
the
garages,
it's
if
we
looked
at
a
site
plan,
I
mean
pushing
two
of
them
together
actually
gives
you
a
bigger
break
between
the
garages,
which
seems
a
little
more
substantial
than
having
just
a
two
foot,
or
you
know,
a
small
break
in
between
the
garages,
it's
kind
of
a
useless
space,
so
I
actually
don't
mind
the
attached
garages
clustered
the
way
they
are.
D
J
J
I
I
know
we
can't
you
know
redesign
the
whole
thing,
and
I
mean
it
looks
like
there's
sort
of
three
houses
layered
into
one
in
each
of
these,
but
I
would
I
would
love
to
see
that
yeah,
just
the
number
of
colors
and
materials
reduced
so
that
it
doesn't
look
so
jumbled
and
I
and
I
think
that
there
is
a
way
I
mean
I.
I
agree
that
there
will
be
growing
pains
in
every
in
any
neighborhood
that's
experiencing
infill,
but
we
saw
a
slide
here
today.
J
That
was,
I
believe,
the
adjacent
property
that
looked
like
a
duplex.
Thank
you
that
that
to
me
was
done
a
lot
more
tastefully
it.
You
know
the
the
roof.
The
front
roof
line
reads
much
more
consistent
with
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
fact
that
there
aren't
four
colors
on
one
facade.
It
just
makes
it
a
lot
cleaner,
and
you
know
this
is
sort
of
a
modern
version
of
what
already
exists,
as
opposed
to.
D
J
Yeah
I'd
love
to
hear,
if
any
other,
I'm
sorry,
mr
chairman,
if
any
other
committee
members
have
issue
with
that
or
prefer
to
leave
it,
as
is.
E
Mr
chairman,
yes
just
to
weigh
in
I
I
agree
with
you
in
part.
I
I
think
this
is
an
excellent
example
of
the
kind
of
peril
that
our
design
by
numbers
code
can
pose.
E
While
at
the
same
time
you
know,
I
I
see
the
the
need
for
some
of
those
numbers
to
be
included
in
in
our
sort
of
arbitrary
approach
to
altering
materiality
and
and
whatnot
in
in
this
particular
instance,
you
know
I,
I
agree.
I
think
it's
a
little
busy.
E
But
at
the
same
time,
I
I
think
you
know
limiting
the
color
palette
to
two
colors
per
house
plus
a
natural
material
would
would
go
a
long
way
for
making
this
kind
of
blend
into
the
neighborhood
a
little
more.
D
I
guess
is:
is
it
the
color
palette
itself,
or
is
it
just
the
contrast
between
the
lighter
colors
and
the
darker
colors
that
maybe
provide
some
of
that.
E
D
Yeah,
I
I
I
I
don't
disagree
with
that.
At
the
same
time,
you
know
once
these
are
out
in
the
public,
they
can
paint
their
house
any
color.
They
want.
I
guess
too,
at
a
certain.
H
D
D
I
hope
that
the
developer
is
maybe
taking
some
of
that
into
consideration
and
might
revisit
that,
but
I'm
open
for
whatever
anybody
wants
to
take
on
a
motion
if
they
want
to
try
to
write
that
into
emotion
or
if
just
want
to
leave
that
as
a
consideration.
E
I'll
take
a
stab
okay
and
amendments
can
come
in
discussion
if,
if
needed,
I
move
to
approve
drh22-0003.
E
Subject
to
the
findings
of
facts
and
conditions
of
approval,
accepting
the
site-specific
condition,
1a
and
adding
site-specific
condition.
D
Or
we
could
enter
if
it
has
no
support.
Github
entertain
a
new
motion.
D
A
second,
if
anybody's
interested.
E
Mr
chairman,
yes,
seeing
that
there's
not
much
mileage
to
this
one,
I
would
like
to
revisit
a
point
that
was
brought
up
prior
to
all
of
this
discussion,
which
was
the
paving
of
the
alleyway
okay
good
point.
I
don't
see
that
in
any
of
our
standard
conditions
of
approval.
E
P
Mr
chair,
yes,
so
I
just
pulled
up
on
the
screen.
This
is
achd's
report.
They
would
be
the
ones
that
would
require
that
they
did
not
include
in
their
site-specific
conditions
of
approval,
a
condition
to
pave
the
alley.
There
are
times
when
they
do
require
that.
But
this
was
not
one
of
those
instances.
P
Mr
chair,
yes,
it
appears
that,
yes,
that
is
something
that
we
could
require.
Okay,.
D
C
J
Sorry,
mr
mr
chairman,
I
am,
I
can't
in
con
good
conscience,
support
this
project
unless
it's
completely
redesigned,
so
I
I
feel
like
it,
it's
not
within
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
whatsoever,
and
that's
why
I
didn't
want
to
suck
in
the
motion
or
even
come
up
with
a
new
proposal,
because
it's
to
me
it's
not
just
about
the
massing
and
the
pavement
of
the
alleyway.
It's
that
this
project
doesn't
belong
in
this
neighborhood
at
all.
D
J
D
Questions
thoughts
from
the
committee
on
paving
the
alley
piece
is
that
a
pretty
staff
is
that
a
pretty
common
condition
on
some
of
these
some
hit
and
miss?
Maybe.
P
Yeah
mr
chair
hit
and
miss
is
what
it
sounds
like.
Usually
that
comes
from
achd
and
that's
something
that
will
include
in
our
conditions
of
approval,
we'll
say,
comply
with
any
conditions
of
a
privilege
required
by
achd,
including
paving
the
alley,
if
that's
something
that
they
require.
So
normally
we
let
achd
make
that
decision.
Gotcha.
K
Mr
chairman,
yes,
mr
ball,
a
discussion
with
council
an
option
that
the
committee
has
here
and
correct
me.
If
I
state
this
incorrectly,
we
could
defer
this
for
up
to
60
days
or
redesign
without
giving
it
approval
or
denial
to
give
the
applicant
an
opportunity
to
take
what
he's
heard
here
this
evening
and
make
some
refinements
to
present
to
us
at
a
later
date.
D
Okay,
so
that
the
committee
feels
is,
that
is
that
more
acceptable
than
going
to
another
work
session
for
redesign,
for
I
mean
functionally
it's
the
same
thing.
K
C
E
While
I
on
on
a
personal
level,
don't
love
this
development,
I
worry
about
the
precedent
that
we
set
by
deferring
developments
of
this
sort
in
what
would
otherwise
not
be
a
design
review
area
aside
from
the
substandard
lots,
and
since
I
don't
think
the
substandard
lots
are
necessarily
the
problem.
E
D
Good
points
with
that
is
anybody
want
to
take
a
stab
at
another
motion
with
either
additional
conditions
for
the
applicant
to
address
or
to
have
the
applicant
come
back
in
a
work
session
to
provide
alternate
elevations
for
consideration.
D
Original
set
of
conditions,
I
think
there
was
the
one
h
that
mr
stead
was
considering
for
the
change
of
the
shed
roof
and
I
don't
think
we
addressed
the
alley
at
all
on
the
first
motion.
But
yes,
we're
looking
for
a
new
motion.
K
I
can't
well,
I
suspect,
if
the
aerial
photo
is
halfway
correct
and
if
I'm
reading
it
correctly
and
the
alley
does
not
go
clear
through
with
stops
at
the
residence
to
the
west,
I
guess
or
north.
I
suspect
that's
why
he
got
a
waiver
about
having
that
alley
paid
or
his
portion
of
that
alley
paved
at
that
particular
point
in
time,
so
requiring
the
alley
on
the
on
this
particular
project
leaves
a
little
stub
of
dirt
driveway.
At
the
end
of
that,
I
guess
and
okay.
D
I
guess
the
only
considerations
for
us
for
public
testimony
concerning,
since
it
is
a
dirt,
it
can
continues
in
the
same
condition
that
it
currently
is.
So
there
is
no
change,
however,
there's
likely
to
have
more
traffic
on
that,
and
so
is
there
a
impact
to
the
neighbors
from
yeah.
K
K
Chairman,
I
would
move.
K
That
item
a
in
the
slide
1a
be.
K
Deleted
and
replaced
with
that
unit
on
lot.
1516
will
have
the
second
story
shed
roof
portion
removed
for
its
entire
length
in
the
design
that
the
we'll
add
item
h
that
the
alley
on
the
lots,
the
entire
lot
length
in
the
alley
up
to
the
pierce
park
street,
be
improved
with
asphalt
to
achd
conditions
and
requirements,
and
that
the
applicant
return
to
this
committee
for
a
work
session
to
review
the
potential
design
changes
that
were
discussed
in
the
meeting.
Does
that
make
sense?