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A
B
Mr
chairman,
it's
5
30.,
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
get
started
deanna.
Were
you
expecting
andrea,
okay,.
D
Yeah,
let's
call
it
this
work
session
to
order.
Please
proceed
nice
to
have
you.
C
All
right
thanks,
I
think,
we'll
be
sharing
our
presentation.
E
Excellent,
mr
chairman
and
council
I'd
like
to
introduce
myself.
My
name
is
wendy
ellisett,
I'm
with
the
mayor's
office
and
I'll
be
helping
deanna
walk
through
today.
An
update
on
our
zoning
code,
rewrite
project.
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone
can
see.
Can
someone
give
me
some
symbol
that
we're
able
to
see
excellent?
E
So
the
zoning
rewrite
project,
as
most
of
you
are
aware,
have
has
been
ongoing
for
a
bit
of
time.
The
project
has
ambitious
goals:
our
55
year
old
zoning
code.
It's
time
for
a
refresh
on
a
rewrite
on
the
code.
The
code
itself
is
a
discrepancy
with
our
comprehensive
plan,
blueprint,
boise
and
I'm
sure
you're.
All
very
aware
of
that.
E
E
Our
zoning
code
we've
heard
many
times
and
you
probably
feel
first
hand:
it's
not
always
user
friendly
and
it's
not
always
intuitive.
So
by
modernizing
our
zoning
code
and
bringing
it
up
to
speed,
then
we
hope
to
incentivize
great
design
and
enable
the
development
that
really
moves
our
city
in
the
direction
of
blueprint.
Boise.
E
Of
course,
a
streamlined
development
review
process
with
fewer
variances
and
fewer
needs
for
special
administrative
work.
Around
work
was
also
a
great
goal
to
have
on
the
project.
We've
approached
the
project
in
five
phases,
so
we
have
we've
completed
two
of
these
phases,
we're
in
the
process
right
now
of
being
in
phase
three.
We
spent
some
time
in
in
2019,
as
well
as
early
2020,
before
everything's,
a
little
bit
sideways
with
covid
planning
out
and
organizing
our
work.
E
Our
phase
two
was
a
major
deliverable
called
the
final
solutions
and
diagnostic
reports.
We
extensively
reached
out
across
the
city
to
many
different
people
in
different
roles,
including
our
community,
homeowners
and
renters,
to
understand
better
where
the
problems
with
the
current
code
were
was
our
phase
two
completed
with
a
significantly
sized
report
around
30
pages
from
our
consulting
partner,
clarion
associates
based
out
of
denver,
and
we
then
launched
into
phase
three
phase.
Three
is
the
need
of
the
work,
so
this
is
where
we're
actually
developing
our
new
code.
E
E
Module
two
which
will
be
our
next
work,
is,
has
already
started
and
will
be
released
later
this
summer,
and
that
is
where
we
really
focus
on
design
elements
and
then
our
module
three
is
procedures
and
that
will
come
out
late
fall
early
winter.
So
phase
three
is
really
where
we
start
to
release
new
modules
of
our
new
code
and
then
phase
four.
We
switch
gears
and
we
put
it
all
back
together.
E
I'm
going
to
lay
this
out
on
a
timeline
for
you,
so
that
you
can
see
how,
when
and
where
how
we
intend
to
do
this.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
phase
2
was
predominant,
was
predominantly
focused
on
building
out
our
diagnostic
report
that
was
released
in
january.
That
is,
a
public
document
is
up
on
our
project
website,
which
we
have
later
in
the
presentation.
E
If
you
haven't
seen
it,
I
highly
encourage
you
to
have
a
look.
It
has
a
lot
of
detailed
information
about
our
the
state
of
our
current
zoning
code
and
phase.
Three
is
where
we're
at
today.
So
our
module
one
has
been
released
to
the
public.
It's
been
out
for
several
weeks
now
and
we
are
in
the
process
of
kicking
off
our
public
engagement
for
module
one.
E
We
would
love
to
be
able
to
explain
those
events
to
you
so
that
you
might
help
us
to
spread
the
word.
We
would
like
to
hear
it
from
as
many
people
as
we
can
across
the
city
as
we
review
our
module
one
deanna's
going
to
walk
you
through
some
specifics
of
that
in
a
little
bit,
we've
set
aside
a
month
a
little
bit
over
a
month
at
this
point
to
gather
input
on
module
one
while
at
the
same
time
we're
pivoting
and
we're
starting
work
on
module.
Two,
we
do
have
a
city-wide
advisory
committee.
E
This
is
a
group
of
20
people
from
across
the
city
that
applied
and
were
accepted
onto
our
citywide
advisory
committee,
and
this
is
the
group
people
that
we
are
working
with
in
in
deep
detail
and
jessica
sits
both
on
this
commission,
as
well
as
on
the
city,
the
city-wide
advisory
committee
and
the
cac
meets
every
month
as
a
public
meeting.
You're
always
welcome
to
attend
as
well
and
listen
in
and
module.
Two
work
is
beginning
there.
E
So
to
give
you
an
idea
of
where
we're
heading
we
intend
to
release
and
have
adopted
code
by
december
of
2022,
it's
ambitious.
There
will
be
a
lot
of
conversations
and
meetings
over
the
course
of
2022
in
order
for
us
to
get
there
and
now
I'd
like
to
hand
it
over
to
deanna
and
she's,
going
to
talk
a
bit
more
about
our
specifics.
C
Thank
you
wendy
and
hello
committee
members.
I
don't
think
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
actually
be
before
you,
I'm
deanna
dupri,
I'm
a
comprehensive
planner
and
I'm
a
part
of
this
project
team
to
help
rewrite
the
zoning
code.
C
So
as
what
he
said,
we've
been
working
on
this
for
quite
a
while,
and
we've
been
slowly
building
towards
really
what
she
accurately
called,
which
is
the
meat
of
the
project,
and
so
in
phase
one
and
two
we
did
various
amounts
of
outreach
or
and
really
analysis
of
our
current
code
to
build
towards
what
we
called
our
final
diagnostics
and
solutions.
Report
and
diagnostic
solutions
report
is
a
big
word,
but
really
it's.
You
know
what
is
wrong
with
our
code
and
how
do
we
fix
it?
C
C
What
our
consultant
clarion
associates
sees
nationally
in
zoning
trends
over
time
so,
as
andy
said,
we're
a
very
old
code
and
there
are
some
differences
of
how
cities
are
moving
towards
land
use
planning
into
the
future,
actually
detailed
recommendations
for
us
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
move
into
those
three
modules
of
the
code,
and
you
know
what
just
again,
what
are
the
three
modules
we're
really
taking?
We
know
a
code
is
very
long
and
very
lengthy
and
we've
done
it
we're
going
to
break
it
up
into
three
of
modules.
C
For
for
many
reasons,
the
first
is
that
it's
a
lot
of
information
to
cover
at
one
time
and
that
each
module
is
connected
and
builds
and
then
also
as
a
user
of
a
code.
I
think
we're
all
kind
of
been
familiar
with
this
first
you're
going
to
look.
Am
I
allowed
to
do
it
then
you're
going
to
look?
How
good
does
it
have
to
be,
and
then
how
am
I
going
to
get
it
done?
C
And
so
like
we
said
it
says
our
module
one
is
going
to
outline
what
we
can
and
cannot
do,
and
we've
really
we've
released
that
document
and
it's
on
our
website
and
it's
been
out
for
several
weeks.
But
essentially
you
know
a
lot
of
little.
Things
have
changed
and
we've
reorganized
it,
but
we've
been
able
to
condense
these
changes
into
these
four
bullet
points
here,
which
is
first,
we
recommend
condensing
and
renaming
several
zoning
districts
and
then
we're
proposing
allowing
new
housing
types
within
all
residential
zones.
C
We're
also
proposing
allowing
small
scale
commercial
in
some
residential
zones
really
looking
towards
our
more
medium
and
high
density
zones
and
then
creating
new
mixed-use
development
zones.
We've
for
a
long
time
have
really
separated
uses
where
this
is
our
commercial,
our
office-
and
you
know,
let's
have
the
development
we
want
to
see,
which
is
mixed-use
development,
putting
people
close
to
goods
and
services.
C
And
so
that's
a
huge,
really
quick
summary
of
what
we're
proposing,
but
there's
still
a
lot.
We
have
to
do
to
make
sure
folks
know
what
we're
proposing
and
then
that
we're
hearing
from
our
community
about
how
can
we
remind
refine
this
module
and
then
build
towards
the
next,
which
is
really
going
to
dive
into
hey?
If
we're
allowing
mixed-use
development?
What
does
it
have
to
look
and
feel
like?
So
we
do
have
a
survey
online
right
now.
C
You
could
just
go
to
our
zoning
code
rewrite
website
and
we'll
have
that
open
through
june
we're
propos
or
we're
going
to
host
five
community
conversations
throughout
may
and
june,
in
which
we
really
want
to
have.
C
You
know
a
discussion
and
dialogue
with
our
community
members
about
these
changes
and
then
for
those
who
really
want
to
dive
deep
into
the
text.
We
have
very
academic
office
hours,
but
really
you
could
sign
up
and
talk
to
myself
or
andrea,
I'm
going
to
talk
to
a
planner
about
what
this
code
proposal
actually
says
and
help
us
make
sure
that
we're
not.
We
don't
have
any
gaps,
it's
a
huge
document
and
more
eyes
on
it.
Telling
us
hey.
This
doesn't
work,
or
I
don't
see
how
this
will
work.
C
If
we
do
this
and
at
the
same
time
we're
going
to
begin
drop,
we
as
wendy
said
we've
already
kind
of
started,
moving
into
module
2
and
we'll
be
doing
that
with
our
citywide
advisory
committee
starting
next
week,
and
here
again
is
just
how
you
can
learn
more
and
how
you
can
participate
in
the
process.
And
you
know,
as
you
can
see,
those
last
couple
bullets
really
sign
up
on
the
the
project
website
is
our
how
you
know
the
house
of
everything,
zoning
code
related
and
ways
that
you
could
tap
in.
C
So
thank
you
so
much
and
I
josh
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
time
for
any
questions
or
we're
happy
to.
F
I
have
a
comment
I
just
want
to
thank
team,
boise
city
and
the
crew
working
on
this.
The
meetings
have
been
really
good.
F
I
really
appreciate
andrea,
letting
everyone
have
an
opportunity
to
speak,
or
we
have
a
diverse
group
with
different
thoughts
and
ideas
and
opinions
and
andrea
is
really
respectful
about
letting
everyone
give
their
two
cents
and
say
their
peace,
and
I
I
think
it's
been
a
really
good
process.
So
thank
you.
D
H
D
C
And
we'll
coordinate
with
josh
to
make
sure
we're
keeping
the
committee
updated
as
we
move
along
the
process.
B
Mr
chairman,
if
you
want,
we
can
kind
of
dive
in
real
quick
go
through
the
proposed
consent
agenda
for
tonight.
Pretty
big
hearing
yeah.
Let's.
D
B
B
B
I
Yes
is
number
four
still
a
deferral.
I
A
B
You
bet,
and
then
I
just
had
a
couple,
quick
announcements.
I
know
casey
downey
is
on
the
call
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
that
this
will
be
her
last
hearing
with
design
review,
sad
to
say
we're
losing
her
to
a
relocation
to
spokane,
so
casey's
been
a
fantastic
member
of
design.
Review
just
does
standout
work
and
she
will
be
deeply
missed,
but
obviously
happy
for
her
and
her
new
opportunities
in
spokane.
B
So
we'll
begin
a
recruiting
process
and
get
somebody
on
board
as
quickly
as
they
can,
because
caitlyn
and
I
are
gonna-
be
struggling
a
little
bit
so
and
then
also,
I
know
bob
talboy
couldn't
make
it
tonight,
but
this
is
his
last
technically
his
last
hearing.
He
did
not
seek
reappointment
so
we'll
there's
an
advertisement
out
currently
to
for
a
new
committee
member,
and
we
will
fill
that
as
soon
as
we
can.
B
So
I
feel
a
little
remiss
not
mentioning
it
last
month,
so
we
could
congratulate
him
in
person
and
thank
him
for
his
service.
But
bob
has
been
a
excellent
member
of
the
committee
and
has
provided
a
lot
over
the
years.
So
we
appreciate
it
and
he
will
be
missed
as
well
so
a
couple
of
bummer
notes,
but
on
that,
unless
anybody
has
any
comments
or
questions,
we
can
adjourn
until
six,
we'll.
D
Just
one
quick,
quick
procedural
question
for
tonight,
because
we
are
anticipating
some
public
testimony
tonight.
Are
you
expecting
anyone
publicly
in
person
so
much
today,
josh.
B
B
D
I
Good
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
dave
rodin
and
I
were
reappointed
last
night
at.
D
G
B
B
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak.
As
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you
will
be
called
upon
and
unmuted.
You
will
then
be
promoted
to
panelists
and
rejoin
the
meeting.
After
a
brief,
brief
delay,
there
is
a
chat
function
in
zoom.
This
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
If
the
chat
function
isn't
available
to
you,
you
can
email
zoning
info
at
cityofboise.org
with
any
technical
issues.
B
B
D
Thank
you
josh.
We
are
the
citizen
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
city
council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
design
review
permits.
Any
decision
made
tonight
may
be
appealed
to
the
boise
city
planning
and
zoning
commission,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
D
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
tonight's
meeting.
So
that's
why
it's
very
important
that
you
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight.
We
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report-
and
there
is
no
public
opposition,
the
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
D
D
D
And
next
I'd
like
to
just
take
a
motion
on
april
14th,
2020
minutes.
J
D
A
G
D
We
have
one
item
for
deferral
tonight.
That's
item
number
four:
it's
drh20a
the
project's
located
at
79-53
west
target
targeting
street.
This
will
be
deferred
to
the
june
9th
hearing.
D
Is
there
any
member
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
that
cannot
make
this
june
9th
date?
Please
let
us
know,
and
if
you're
virtually
please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
D
Scene,
none,
I
would
that
would
conclude
our
items
to
be
considered
for
our
referrals
tonight
and
I
would
take
a
motion
on
referrals.
I
Mr
chairman,
yes,
just
for
clarification,
the
the
application
number
for
deferral
drh21-00138,
I
believe
you
said
2-0.
I
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I
move
deferral
of
item
number
four
drh21-00138
to
the
june.
I
Sorry
14th
is
that
the
date
I
think
june
9th
right
now
sorry
june
9th
2021
design,
review,
hearing
yep.
A
D
Now,
we'll
move
on
to
our
items
to
be
considered
for
our
consent
agenda.
The
first
item
to
be
considered
for
our
consent
agenda
is
item
number
one
crh21-0.
D
The
location
is
2850
west
fletcher
street
for
the
construction
of
a
new
mixed-use
development
with
358
residential
units
offices,
commercial
space
and
structured
parking
in
three
buildings
from
four
to
seven
stories
with
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
located
in
the
c5d
zone
is
the
applicant
present.
If
you
would
please
virtually
raise
your
hand
or
les.
D
Thank
you
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
recommended
conditions
of
approval
they
have
indicated?
Yes,
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item?
If
you're
virtually,
please
raise
your
hand
using
the
raise
your
hand
button
or
in
person,
please
let.
D
Josh,
I
see
no
adverse
testimony
so
that
this
time
we'll
move
this
item
onto
the
consent
agenda.
D
The
next
item
to
be
considered
is
item
number
two
item
number
two
is
dr817.00072:
location
is
3453
east
park
center
boulevard
for
albertson's
companies.
It's
a
request
for
a
two-year
time.
Extension
to
construct
a
new
grocery
store
fuel
center.
Our
property
located
in
an
spo2
zone
is
the
applicant
present.
Today
I
see
raise
your
hand.
D
D
Know
seeing
no
opposition,
we
will
have
this
item
moved
to
the
consent
agenda
as
well.
D
Next
item
to
be
considered
for
our
consensus
item
number
five:
it's
drh21-00142
location
is
5917
west
clinton
street.
It's
for
the
construction
of
an
approximately
17
646
square
foot,
single
story,
multi-tenant
industrial
building,
with
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
located
in
m1d
zone,
is
the
applicant's
presence.
Would
mr
perkins
thank
you
and
is
the
applicant?
Are
you
in
agreement
with
the
conditions
of
approval.
D
D
See,
no
opposition.
This
item
will
be
moved
to
the
consent
agenda.
D
The
location
is
580
north
cold
road
for
the
construction
of
a
new
five-story
mixed-use,
building
on
with
the
ground
floor,
retail
self,
self-service,
storage,
structured
parking
and
136
residential
units
with
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
located
in
the
c2d8
zone
is
the
applicant
present
tonight.
D
Thank
you,
mr
miller,
and
if
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval.
B
Mr
sherman,
they
are
in
person
and
they
have.
D
The
last
item
for
to
be
considered
under
consensus
is
item
number
nine.
It's
drh21-00146
location
is
2007
south
saturn
way.
It's
for
the
construction
of
a
new
self-service
storage
facility
with
12
buildings
and
associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
located
in
a
pending
c3d
zone
is
the
applicant
presence.
D
Yep
and
the
applicant
in
agreement
with
recommendation
conditions
of
approval.
J
D
B
Mr
chairman,
I
believe
we
do
have
a
raised
hand.
Denise.
D
Denise
miller,
I
I
we,
I
believe
you
are
in
opposition
to
this
item.
You
can
confirm.
M
D
This
is
designer
view
yes,
and,
and
these
items
are
are
items
where
we
feel
that
they
have
basically
are
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report
and
would
be
approved
at
the
beginning
of
the
hearing.
D
If
you
wish
to
testify.
G
D
M
D
That
is
items
that
we
have
reviewed
and
staff
that
is
reviewed
and
has
provided
comments
in
there.
Those
can
be
reviewed
with
staff
directly
or,
if
you
want
to
see
those
tonight,
you
can
certainly
pull
this
item
and
review
those
tonight
as
well.
This
will
be
probably
the
last
item
on
our
agenda
a
regularly
scheduled
if
we
pull
it,
though
tonight.
D
Public
testimony,
so
it
may
be
a
little
later
than
that
by
the
time.
That
item
would
be
heard.
M
D
J
I
D
Hearing
none
victoria,
please
call
enroll.
A
D
D
Well,
carries
you
at
this
time
we
will
proceed
to
our
regularly
scheduled
items
to
be
heard
tonight.
The
first
item
to
be
heard,
is
item
number
three
item
number
three
is
drh21.0.
O
O
O
O
D
Present,
thank
you
is
the
applicant
presence
and
if
you
would
please
virtually
raise
your
hand
or
in
person
in
person,
you
would
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
K
I'm
here
tonight
representing
the
applicant
on
the
project
and
as
staff
had
mentioned,
we
are
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report.
We've
created
a
revised
site
plan
that
meets
all
of
achds
requirements,
which
I
believe
staff
has
available.
If
you
would
like
to
see
that
this
is
as
staff
mentioned
and
approved
use
in
this
zone,
and
so
and
in
addition
to
that,
I
should
say
that
we've
done
two
of
these
car
washes
in
the
city
of
boise
in
the
last
18
months,
pretty
much
the
same
design
and
look
so
with
that.
D
Hearing
none.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Is
there
any
member
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
and
if
you
would
please
either
virtually
raise
your
hand
or
in
person.
D
We
have
a
virtual
here,
mr
lee
handler.
P
P
D
D
See
none
virtually.
I
think
that
there's
none
in
person
josh,
mr
chair
at
this-
is
there
any
the
applicant
like
to
make
any
other
statements.
D
Scene,
none
at
this
time.
I
will
close
the
public
portion
of
the
hearing
tonight
and
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
for
discussion
and
consideration
of
emotion.
D
G
D
G
D
O
O
O
O
The
applicant
is
also
installing
detached
sidewalks
along
boise
avenue
and
protest
where
there
are
currently
attached
sidewalks
and
the
development
agreement
did
require
a
number
of
items.
I've
listed
some
of
those
main
items
that
might
pertain
to
us
here.
So
if
we
could
just
go
through
those
quickly,
the
development
must
be
constructed.
In
accordance
with
the
approved
conceptual
plan,
the
design
review
committee
can
approve
minor
changes.
O
O
The
maximum
number
of
bedrooms
shall
be
no
more
than
547..
The
minimum
number
of
bicycle
parking
spaces
provided
shall
be
one
per
bedroom.
A
minimum
of
two
alternative
transportation
options
shall
be
provided
on
the
site.
This
could
include
an
e-scooter
or
bike
share
hub
and
car
share
program.
The
existing
transit
routes
cannot
fulfill
this
requirement.
O
The
cost
for
vehicular
parking
shall
be
charged
separately
from
that
of
the
associated
residential
lease.
With
bike
parking
at
no
charge,
a
maximum
of
one
vehicular
access
point
is
allowed.
The
developer
will
include
sustainability
features
within
the
development
class
ii.
Trees
shall
be
planted
along
boise
avenue
and
protest
road.
Unless
the
fire
department
has
concerns
with
regards
to
access,
then
a
50,
50
mix
of
class
1
and
class
2
trees
shall
be
planted
and
mitigation
for
250
caliber
inches
shall
occur,
with
a
combination
of
on-site
plantings
and
within
two
miles
of
the
site.
O
So
the
proposed
building
design
includes
facade
modulation,
varying
heights,
a
mix
of
colors
and
materials
and
articulation
features
that
break
up
the
length
of
the
facades
and
will
provide
interest
along
the
streets.
This
is
the
front
elevation
along
boise
avenue
at
the
top
and
the
rear
elevation
along
the
bottom.
O
O
Here
you
can
see
the
massing
of
the
building
the
homes
behind
are
up
on
a
hill,
so
they
are
at
an
elevation
above
the
building
and
the
applicant
has
provo
proposed
a
green
colored
roof
in
anticipation
of
the
roof
being
visible
to
those
residents.
The
applicant
anticipates
the
only
rooftop
equipment
will
be
at
the
retail
space.
It's
approximately
here
and
there's
a
condition
of
approval
that
the
equipment
be
screened,
its
full
height,
and
here
is
a
rendering
of
some
of
the
units
along
boise
avenue,
with
those
pedestrian
entries.
O
Staff
is
recommending
some
pretty
standard
conditions
to
comply
with
the
design
review
guidelines,
as
well
as
some
conditions
to
provide
some
additional
details
prior
to
building
permits
middle,
including
the
plaza
elements
and
the
pavement
treatments
and
signage.
At
the
boise
entrance
to
ensure
safe
circulation,
we
did
receive
a
number
of
letters
of
opposition
that
were
provided
to
you
as
late
correspondence
memos.
O
One
concern
that
came
up
a
few
times
was
fire.
The
applicant
has
been
working
with
the
fire
department
and
can
provide
an
update.
The
applicant
will
need
to
satisfy
all
fire
requirements
before
a
building
permit
can
be
issued,
and
then
I
would
also
like
to
clarify
that
the
applicant
will
be
complying
with
all
the
requirements
of
the
rezone
and
the
development
agreement,
and
nothing
we
approve
would
remove
any
of
those
requirements,
and
that
includes
the
unit
and
bedroom
maximums
and
the
height
maximums,
and
I
believe
the
applicant
is
present
on
zoom.
D
At
this
point
we
would
turn
it
over
for
the
applicant
for
their
presentation,
so
you
can
virtually
raise
your
hand
and
josh
if
you
could
elevate
them
to
be
a
presenter.
D
And
if
you
would
please
once
you're
able
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Q
Hello,
can
you
hear
me
okay,
great
one
question
I
am,
I'm
actually
going
to
be
passing
this
off
to
another
member
of
the
team
here
in
a
second.
Is
there
any
way
he
could
share
his
screen
and
I
can
talk
for
a
couple
minutes
and
then
that
way
we
don't
have
to
switch
screens
or
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
better
way
to
handle
it.
L
I
can't
share
my
screen
until
somebody
else
stops
sharing.
Thank
you.
Q
All
right
well,
while
john
is
getting
that
set
up.
Okay,
great
so,
like
I
said,
my
name
is
mitch
cordy,
I'm
with
the
developer
cdg
acquisitions.
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
thank
you
to
the
committee
members
appreciate
everyone
being
in
person
and
virtual
tonight.
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
caitlin
and
the
other
design
review
planning
staff
they've
been
great
to
work
with
throughout
the
process
as
well
really
excited
to
talk
about
our
project
and
get
everyone's
thoughts.
Q
It's
been
in
process
for
a
little
while
and
yeah
just
ready
to
to
work
through
this
with
you
guys
and
really
see
how
you
feel
about
the
project.
Q
I'm
just
gonna
go
into
a
little
bit
of
background
about
cdg
and
then
I'll
hand
it
over
to
john
he's
with
cube
three
our
architect
and
then
I
also
have
jason
densmer
from
the
land
group
on
the
line
with
questions
he's
our
civil
engineer.
If
anyone
has
questions
for
him,
so
this
first
slide.
Q
Just
to
make
sure
the
design
will
really
stand
the
test
of
time
in
that
location,
all
right
and
then
just
to
get
everybody
kind
of
familiar.
I
know
caitlin
already
went
through
it,
but
the
location
of
the
site
we're
down
here
on
the
southwest
corner
at
boise
and
protest.
Q
Q
This
slide,
I
really
just
want
to
talk
about
the
kind
of
the
evolution
of
the
project
and
sort
of
how
we
got
here
so
over
the
past
two
years.
It's
evolved
significantly.
I
think
we
started
at
this
just
showing
four
stories.
I
think
we
were
initially
actually
at
five
stories
and
now
we're
currently
at
a
three-story
scheme.
Q
You
know:
we've
we've
incorporated
feedback
from
city
staff,
neighborhood
associations,
neighbors
city
council
and,
in
the
end,
there's
really
no
doubt
that
this
has
resulted
in
a
better
project,
and
you
know
I'm
excited
to
hear
what
the
committee
members
have
to
say,
but
I
think
you
can
tell
we're
really
excited
about
where
this
ended
up
and
before
I
hand
it
over
to
john.
Q
I
do
just
want
to
give
a
quick
highlight
on
some
of
the
things
we've
focused
focused
on
throughout
the
process,
so
one
is
really
activating
the
streetscape
and
providing
a
safe
environment
for
pedestrians.
So
this
is
a
very
walkable
site,
both
the
campus
and
then
even
downtown
or
the
park.
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
a
safe
environment
for
pedestrians
and
bikers
so
providing
a
public
plaza
and
detached
sidewalks
undergrounding
power
lines.
We
added
some
walk-out
units
on
the
first
floor
to
really
create
that
activity.
Q
So
all
these
things
really
designed
to
activate
the
streetscape
and
create
a
great
environment
at
this
intersection
and
then
the
other
one
was
providing
a
benefit
to
the
surrounding
community
and
in
the
last
iteration
we've
actually
added
some
retail
on
the
corner.
This
is
an
activity
center,
so
adding
that
retail,
for
you
know
a
coffee
shop
or
a
bodega
or
whatever
it
might
be,
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
a
nice
public
plaza
that
can
have
some
outdoor
seating
and
we'll
have
a
brand
new
bus
shelter
on
the
corner.
Q
Q
There
are
two
things
that
were
mentioned
in
achd's
report
that
I
did
want
to
clarify
and
we
can
get
into
these
later
when,
when
john
talks
about
the
landscape
plan,
but
achd
mentioned
that
we
have
eight
foot
sidewalks,
we
actually
have
seven
foot
sidewalks.
We
have
an
eight
foot
planter
strip
and
a
seven
foot
sidewalk.
So
I
think
the
the
requirement
is
five
feet.
So
I
don't
think
that's
an
issue.
Q
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
all
clear
on
what
we
were
planning
on
providing
and
then
the
second
one
is
related
to
class
one
trees.
So
caitlin
mentioned
that
we've
been
in
some
conversations
with
the
fire
department
and
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
was
adding
some
class
one
trees
to
the
front
of
the
site
to
allow
for
better
access
to
the
top
of
the
building.
Q
So
we
added
the
class
1
trees
and
then
in
achd's
report
they
actually
mentioned
that
they're
going
to
require
a
10
foot
planter
strip
for
any
class
1
trees.
So
I
think
there's
a
couple
different
options
we
can
go
with.
We
can
provide
a
root
barrier
or
you
know
we
can
switch
it
back
to
class
2
trees
and
maybe
just
go
with
a
smaller
species
that
would
still
allow
for
the
access
either
way.
I
think
we're
open
and
you
know
we
should
be
able
to
find
a
solution,
but
I
just
wanted
to
throw.
Q
Out
there
to
make
sure
everybody
was
on
the
same
page
moving
forward.
So
with
that,
I
will
go
ahead
and
hand
it
over
to
john
and
he'll
get
into
the
design.
L
Thanks
mitch,
this
is
john
harding,
with
cube
3,
370
merrimack
street
lawrence
massachusetts.
L
Thank
you
for
the
great
staff
report,
summary
of
the
of
the
project
and
mitch
for
talking
about
a
lot
of
the
the
goals
here
again,
just
a
a
kind
of
a
enlarged
location
of
the
site.
In
the
direct
kind
of
context.
We
have
the
identity,
student
housing
project,
that's
diagonally
across
the
intersection
of
west
boise
and
sales
protest
in
west
beacon
directly
across
the
street
from
us.
We
have
the
boise
state
university
campus,
like
this
kind
of
southwestern
corner
of
it
directly
behind
us.
L
We
have
the
existing
housing
located
up
on
the
hill.
It's
approximately
50
feet
higher
than
the
site
in
the
building
as
identified
earlier,
is
a
maximum
of
37
feet
tall,
so
the
that
housing
lives
quite
a
bit
higher
than
our
roof
surface
directly
to
the
north
of
us.
We
have
the
woodbridge,
townhomes
and
eagle
point
apartments
to
our
to
our
south
east,
again
focused
on
the
who
the
anticipated
residents
are
here
and
the
connectivity
of
really
focusing
on
a
pedestrian
and
bicycle
friendly
environment.
L
We
focused
on
adding
a
new
crosswalk
up
at
joyce
street,
really
looking
at
the
enhancements
of
the
intersections
of
where
protests
and
boise
come
together
and
also
up
further
at
beacon
street
and
really
trying
to
support
and
encourage
pedestrian
environment,
pedestrian
connectivity
from
our
main
plaza
space,
which
is
here
at
the
corner
of
west
boise
and
south
protest,
and
really
encourage
that
pedestrian
connectivity
and
flow.
L
Just
some
slides
here.
Just
to
show
you
the
context,
I
think
we've
all
kind
of
been
through
this,
but
looking
here
on
west
boise
ave,
looking
southeast
the
subject
properties
up
here
to
the
to
the
right,
then
looking
southwest
and
then
kind
of
looking
further
here's
identity
the
site
further
over
here
across
the
corn
across
the
intersection
and
then
again
just
kind
of
looking
back
down
west
boise.
L
So
you
can
see
here
we
have
some
really
large
arterial
type
streets,
a
lot
of
traffic,
that
safety
of
of
how
pedestrians
are
getting
across
these
streets
and
and
how
the
bicycles
are
connecting
into
that
network.
It
was
really
a
focus
for
us
in
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
plan
that
interact
or
that
reacted
to
those
needs
so
just
kind
of
jumping
into
the
site
plan.
Here
we
have
the
amenity
space
and
retail
space
up
here
at
the
front
corner.
L
All
of
the
main
entrances
have
been
located
up
at
the
corner,
at
the
plaza,
so
the
plaza
kind
of
has
like
two
kind
of
spur-offs
one
up
here
in
west
boise
and
one
on
south
protest
that
go
to
main
entrances
for
the
retail
space
and
then
the
main
entrance
for
the
building
here
kind
of
central.
In
that
first
front
plaza,
you
can
see
all
the
the
walk
out
units
with
their
individual
stoops.
They
also
will
all
be
accessed
from
the
internal
corridor
inside
the
building.
L
We
have
those
both
on
west
boise
and
on
self
protest.
We
have
a
a
new
quarter,
access
point
here
off
of
sales
protest
that
we're
still
kind
of
working
through
the
the
connection
out
to
the
street,
but
that
we're
that's
a
kind
of
a
new
main.
Our
new
secondary
entrance
and
egress
point
from
the
stairs
inside
the
building.
L
At
that
location,
in
total
we're
looking
at
175
units,
547
beds,
274
parking
spaces
in
an
underground
parking
garage,
with
the
exception
of
eight
at-grade
spaces
that
are
for
visitors
and
access
to
the
retail.
L
We
have
550
bike
parking
spaces
about
500
of
those
are
underground
in
a
bike.
Storage
room
that
you'll,
see
in
a
second
and
about
50
are
at
grade
some
located
at
the
rear
of
the
site.
Some
located
up
at
the
front
plaza
and
the
retail
space
is
just
about
2
400
square
feet
in
total.
There's
three
courtyards
that
are
all
at
this.
L
L
It's
a
you
know,
majority
of
parking
getting
to
that
274
parking
spaces
and
the
secure
bike
storage
over
here
near
the
main
entrance
with
the
elevator
and
stair
access
to
come
up
and
out
that
secondary
exit
point
that
we
were
just
talking
about
here
is
the
the
current
landscape
plan.
I've
had
a
few
developments
as
mitch
had
addressed
earlier.
We
have
the
the
bus
shelter
up
in
the
corner
kind
of
fronting
on
this
main
plaza
space
that
has
always
been
a
focal
point
of
the
development,
the
street
trees.
L
Here
in
our
discussions
with
the
fire
department
last
week,
we
were
working
with
them
on
both
arterial
access
and
just
fire
department
access
in
general,
but
specifically
on
arterial
or
yeah.
The
the
latter
access
to
the
front
of
the
building
all
class
ii
trees
along
here
would
have
prevented
them
from
being
able
to
swing
their
ladder
up
to
the
building.
L
So
they
asked
us
to
look
at
how
to
better
create
a
plan
that
gives
them
some
smaller
trees,
so
the
class
one
trees
that
have
the
ability
to
to
get
that
ladder,
the
aerial
access
to
the
roof
of
the
building,
so
they
have
a
spot
kind
of
at
the
end
here
in
the
middle
and
then
over
here
at
the
corner
to
get
on
wherever
it
is
the
most
convenient
or
appropriate
for
them.
L
Another
development
that
we've
had
to
make
is
that
we
had
to
remove
the
street
trees
from
the
protest.
Roadside
there's
a
gravity,
drainage
line
as
part
of
an
irrigation
line,
an
irrigation
line
that
jason
can
talk
to
you
more
if
you,
if
there's
more
questions
there,
but
it's
it's
right
below
all
the
trees
in
the
planter
bed.
L
So
we
weren't
able
to
locate
trees
there
without
it
affecting
that
drainage
line,
so
we've
moved
them
off
on
the
other
side
of
the
sidewalk
onto
the
property
side
and
those
are
going
to
be
the
class
two
trees.
There,
we've
added
some
fences
for
security
and
kind
of
some
screening
along
the
big
judd's
portion
and
we're
also
replacing
a
screening
fence
along
the
entire
western
side
of
the
property.
There's
a
sidewalk
that
goes
all
the
way
around.
L
L
L
Some
site
sections
here,
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
sense
of
the
what
those
sidewalk
conditions
will
feel
like.
So
this
one
here
is
up
in
the
middle
of
the
building.
You
can
see
the
the
eight
foot
planting
strip,
the
seven
foot
sidewalk
and
then
some
planting
strip
between
us
in
the
building
going
leading
up
to
those
individual
entrances
for
the
units
at
grade
working
your
way
closer
to
the
plaza
we
get
a
little
bit
more
plaza
space,
the
plaza
wraps
around
the
whole
corner
of
the
building.
L
You
know
we
don't
know
exactly
what
will
be
in
the
retail
space,
but
we're
targeting
a
coffee
shop,
some
small
market
stuff,
that's
neighborhood
style
retail,
to
be
able
to
really
service
the
residents
of
all
of
the
buildings
around
here
and
the
neighborhood
up
behind
us
again.
All
these
are
class
two
trees
and
really
trying
to
show
you
the
scale
and
size
of
the
or
the
feel
of
the
sidewalk
in
the
plaza
space,
some
renderings
again,
here's
the
corner
of
west
boise
and
stealth
protest.
L
Looking
at
at
the
corner
of
the
building,
we
have
the
one
of
the
retail
spaces
here
on
the
left.
The
second
one
here
on
the
right
and
the
main
entrance
actually
is-
has
been
located
as
well
right
on
this
corner,
going
further
down
giving
a
look
and
feel
for
what
we
have
for
the
maintenance
or
the
the
residential
stoop
entrances
and
the
kind
of
general
massing
of
this
building
really
breaking
itself
down
making.
L
It
feel
not
like
one
long
building,
but
a
series
of
smaller
buildings
that
feel
more
appropriate
in
a
residential
type
context
and
for
a
three-story
scale.
Building
the
elevations
here
so
at
the
corner.
Here
is
the
the
corner
of
of
west
boise
and
self-protest.
L
You
can
see
the
you
know,
we're
calling
it
here,
potentially
a
bodega,
the
main
entrance
for
the
building,
there's
a
little
recess
here.
So
that's
this
spot
in
the
plan
here,
where
there's
a
little
recess
in
a
little
courtyard
or
roof
area
up
beyond
the
main
amenity
space
is
all
at
that
corner
there.
L
Then
we
go
to
the
grade
residential
units
looking
at
high
quality
materials
and
we'll
talk
about
materials
in
just
a
minute
here,
but
all
fiber
cement,
siding
masonry
base
some
metal
panel
mixed
in
at
some
feature
elements
the
incorporation
of
the
the
ventilation
systems.
L
So
one
of
the
moves
to
be
able
to
remove
all
of
the
mechanical
equipment
from
the
roof
as
a
benefit
to
the
neighbors,
be
behind
us
up
on
the
hill,
so
that
they
didn't
have
to
look
down
at
the
mechanical
equipment
or
hear
that
mechanical
equipment.
Those
have
all
been
integrated
and
you
can
see
some
louvers
incorporated
into
the
facade
that
will
be
color
matched
to
the
materials.
L
The
roof
itself,
as
part
of
the
conditions,
will
be
a
green
tpo
roof,
helping
the
the
roof
to
kind
of
blend
away
a
little
bit
more,
not
getting
any
reflectivity
up
into
the
the
neighbor's
eyes
like
like
a
white
tpo,
which
you
might
see
in
a
lot
of
buildings
like
this,
would
provide
the
main
parking
or
parking
access
point
at
the
the
far
right
side
of
the
elevation,
and
you
can
see
here
is
where
we
have
the
the
drive-in
tuck
under
parking
for
the
retail
in
in
some
visitor
spaces.
L
Again,
the
southeast
elevation
here
kind
of
facing
out
to
protest-
and
this
portion
here
is-
is
actually
behind
a
big
judge.
So
big
judges
is
kind
of
located
right
here
in
front
of
this
part
of
the
building.
L
L
So
looking
at
this
spot
on
the
on
the
property
and
the
neighbors
behind
us
are
up
on
above
those
the
rooftop
above
the
parapets
there
and
again,
this
part
of
the
the
building
here
is
beyond
behind
big
judds
and
in
the
far
west
side,
again,
there's
a
going
to
be
a
new
fence
along
the
side.
A
lot
of
plantings
in
this
area
to
further
increase
the
that
buffer
to
the
neighbors
on
woodbridge.
L
Last
couple
slides
here
just
to
talk
about
some
of
the
materials
looking
at
a
wood
tone,
horizontal
fiber
cement,
lap,
siding
at
the
kind
of
the
tapered
elevational
elements
along
west
boise
inside
of
those
we
have
kind
of
like
these
projecting
volumes,
we're
doing
a
mixture
of
metal
panels,
both
a
corrugated
and
a
smooth
metal
panel
that
gray
fiber
cement
kind
of
signage
band
at
the
retail
area,
with
a
gray
like
a
dark
iron
spot
brick
base
really
kind
of
solidifying,
really
durable
materials
against
the
plaza
space.
L
Main
entrances
will
all
be
storefront
for
the
retail
and
also
the
main
in
the
main
entrance
for
the
building
here,
where
it
says
verve
also
recessed,
with
some
great
metal
panel
at
the
at
this
kind
of
feature,
recessed
area
highlighting
that
that
plaza
space
up
front
in
the
light
gray
areas
we
as
you
kind
of
go
more
to
the
the
body
of
the
building,
we're
doing
a
gray,
horizontal
fiber
cement,
siding
that's
got
a
varied
exposure
to
it
and
we
submitted
a
a
memo
last
week.
L
I
believe
that
gave
an
example
of
what
that
looked
like
at
the
request
of
the
staff
for
for
an
example
of
what
that
texture
might
look
like
and
then
we'll
run
a
masonry
base
kind
of
around
the
building.
L
Our
way
further
down
just
another
example
of
that
great
textured,
we'll
also
mix
in
some
white
fiber
cement
panel
siding.
You
can
see
those
louvers
a
little
bit
better
and
then
just
a
couple
kind
of
textural
elements
of
mixing
in
that
siding
with
some
panel
elements
as
well
to
create
some
additional
texture
and
scale
and
a
little
bit
of
playfulness
on
the
facade,
and
I
think
with
that,
we'll
open
it
up
for
any
questions
that
we
might
have
from
the
board.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Nice
presentation,
questions
for
the
applicant
from
the
committee.
F
L
Sure,
so
are
you
talking
about
for
the
lights
that
are
going
to
be
for
the
sidewalk
around
the
building.
F
L
So
we're
working
still
working
through
that
exactly
where
they'll
be,
but
we
do
have
as
part
of
the
conversation
with
the
fire
department.
We
do
have
this
walkway.
That
goes
all
the
way
around,
so
they
can
get
to
all
sides
of
the
building
and
we'll
want
that,
obviously
to
be
lit
some
areas
where
it's
the
sidewalk
is
a
little
bit
further
away.
L
We're
gonna
have
some
pole
lights
in
some
areas
where
the
the
sidewalk
gets
a
little
closer
to
the
building,
we're
going
to
be
incorporating
building
lights,
they'll
be
probably
within
the
first,
I
would
say,
probably
story
to
story
and
a
half
on
those
facades
and
those
would
be
all
full
cut
off
fixtures.
So
they
focus
the
light
just
to
the
ground,
but
we're
still
kind
of
working
through
exactly
where
those
will
be
where,
where
we
need
the
pull
weight
versus
the
building
light.
I
Mr
chairman,
yes
yeah
this,
I
probably
either
mitch
or
john-
could
maybe
answer
this
one
you
had
mentioned.
You
have
an
eight
foot
planner
and
then
a
seven
foot
detached
sidewalk
if
achd
does
push
back
harder
on
the
class.
One
trees
in
that
planter
have
I'm
not
usually
one
to
reduce
sidewalk
width,
but
you
know
the
the
policy
for
detached
typically
is
five
foot
detached,
which
would
give
you
the
two
additional
feet
to
create
a
10-foot
planter
there.
I
Rather
than
trying
to
find
a
different
variety
of
tree
that
would
fit
in
there.
Then
you
could
do
your
class
ones
with
the
mixture
of
class
twos,
just
wondering
if
that
had
been
a
part
of
the
discussion
with
achd,
knowing
that
you're
still
waiting
to
get
some
feedback
from
them
too.
Q
Yeah,
no,
that's
a
good
point.
This
is
mitch.
That's
a
good
point.
I
think.
There's
there's
a
couple
options.
You
know
we
we
really
like
the
eight
foot
landscape
buffer.
I
think,
like
john
pointed
out,
you
know
with
boise
ave
being
somewhat
of
a
busy
street
and
we
have
the
public
plaza
there.
You
know
that
that
landscape
buffer
really
provides
a
nice
safety
benefit
for
all
the
pedestrians,
so-
and
I
think
it's
a
little
unusual
that
they're
requiring
the
10-foot
landscape
planter
strip
for
smaller
trees
for
the
class
1
trees.
Q
So,
from
my
perspective,
I
would
almost
rather
keep
find
a
way
to
keep
class
2
trees
and
a
larger
planter
strip,
just
because
I
think
the
benefit's
a
little
bit
greater,
so
whether
you
know
whether
we
find
a
smaller
species
and
and
just
in
very
limited
locations
to
to
put
smaller
class
2
trees
or
there's,
there's,
probably
even
the
option
of
just
taking
the
larger
class
2
trees
and
maybe
spreading
them
out
just
a
little
bit
more
to
create
a
couple
access
points
for
the
fire
department.
So
I
think
we
have
a
couple
options.
Q
You
know
I
would
really
like
to
keep
the
eight
foot
landscape
buffer
and
then
the
eight
foot
sidewalk
and
sorry
I
said,
landscape
buffer,
but
we
also
really
like
the
eight-foot
sidewalk
just
because
we're
really
trying
to
create
this
pedestrian
activity
and
you
have
the
walk-out
units.
So
ideally
we
would
keep
or
the
seven
foot
sidewalk
sorry.
So,
ideally
we
would
keep
it
the
way
it
is,
but
you
know
we're
flexible.
Q
So
I
think
if,
if
the
10-foot
landscape
strip
is
just
absolutely
necessary,
then
I
think
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
make
that
work
it
just
it.
I
K
I
Outside
the
city
of
boise,
so
yeah
I
mean
I
like
the
project
as
it
is
in
terms
of
the
sidewalk
width
and
everything
so
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
also
in
the
conversation
if
they
really
push
back
on
that
plan
or
width.
So
thank
you
sure.
D
L
We
do
feel
that
there
that
the
concerns
have
been
addressed.
There
was
basically
two
concerns.
One
was
about
access
to
all
sides
of
the
building
within
a
certain
distance,
and
we
did
resolve
that
on
the
call
last
week
and
provided
them
with
a
diagram
that
kind
of
highlighted
that
for
them,
so
they
they
did
verbally
not
in
a
written
format
yet,
but
verbally
commit
that
that
that
was
good.
L
The
one,
the
one
that
is
was
a
little
bit
still
up
in
the
air
was
the
aerial
app
their
aerial
apparatus,
access
from
west
boise.
L
We
were
showing
all
the
class
two
trees
at
that
point,
and
so
the
working
of
these
class
one
trees
in
it's
a
very
recent
development
based
off
of
those
conversations,
and
it
wasn't.
It
was
a
condition
of
the
approval
previously
to
allow
us
to
go
down
to
class
ones
for
the
fire
department
access.
So
we're
still
working
on
that.
We
have
to
provide
them
with
a
pretty
basic
geometry
diagram
to
show
them
how
it's
going
to
work
with
the
trees
and
the
location
in
the
in
their
ladder.
D
Scene,
thank
you
very
much
at
this
time
is
there
a
member
of
the
neighborhood
association
presents
tonight
that
wishes
to
testify.
D
Seeing
none
we'll
just
open
it
up
to
the
public
for
discussion
if
willing
to
testify
josh.
Are
there
folks
in
person
that
are
wishing
to
testify.
D
Let's
start
with
the
in-person
folks,
and
you
can
help
me
out
with
that
josh.
B
D
G
R
R
D
Thank
you
very
much
josh.
There
are
other
members
in
person
that
are
willing
to
are
wishing
to
testify
tonight.
D
Thank
you
very
much
this
time,
we'll
go
to
our
virtual
list.
If
you
want
to
testify
to
this
particular
item,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand
and
right
now
looks
like
we
have
ryan
lee
wishing
to
testify.
D
Yes,
if
you
would
please
just
state
your
name
and
address.
S
S
So
what
I'm,
what
I'm
seeing
in
the
rendering
is
a
strip
of
existing
mature
trees
that
are,
you
know,
30
to
60
feet
tall
planted
at
the
base
of
the
of
the
development,
and
when
I
see
what
I
see
in
the
plants,
however,
is
that
there
is
zero
existing
vegetation
left,
and
so
it
appears
that
the
the
plans
actually
do
not
include
those
trees
very
again,
a
very
mature
growth,
which
would
do
a
lot
to
screen
the
neighborhood
up
on
mesa
vista
from
the
the
new
development.
S
But
I
also
have
noted
that
of
the
height
of
the
grade
from
the
base
of
the
the
new
development
to
the
existing
grade
of
mesa,
vista
have
kind
of
varied
throughout
the
testimony
from
50
to
maybe
40
or
so.
And
my
my
look
at
that
measurement
tells
me
that
actually,
this
37
feet
are
very
likely
to
obstruct
our
view.
S
But
while
I
can
appreciate
that
it's
gone
from
a
five-story
to
a
three-story,
I
just
kind
of
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
know
it
that
I
have
great
concerns
about
the
the
value
of
properties
on
the
on
the
rim.
There,
with
the
obstruction
of
the
view,
especially
with
the
the
the
loose
use
of
the
measurements
of
our
grade
to
the
to
the
base
grade.
D
D
At
this
time
we
would
turn
it
back
over
to
the
applicants
if
the
africa
would
like
to
maybe
make
some
final
comments
or
address
some
of
the
concerns
brought
forward.
Q
Yeah,
absolutely
this
is
mitch
so
I'll
I'll,
just
start
with
pam's
comments.
There
is
an
existing
monument
at
the
corner
of
the
site
that
we
will
be
preserving
and
then
bringing
back
onto
the
site.
So
I
think
that
was
one
of
that
was
the
concern
she
presented
and
then
yeah.
So
that
will
be
located.
I
don't
know
the
exact
location,
we'll
work
with
the
city
or
landmarks
or
whoever
it
might
be.
Q
Whoever
has
jurisdiction
over
that
to
get
it,
get
it
relocated,
probably
somewhere
right
around
the
new
bus,
shelter
and
then
with
ryan's
comments
I
can
say
so.
We
we
had
elevations
taken
on.
We
actually
the
neighbors
allowed
us
to
go
into
their
backyards
and
survey
their
property,
so
we
were
able
to
get
very
accurate
elevations
from
there.
Q
So
I
I
guess,
I'm
just
trying
to
clarify
that
we
do
have
the
data.
We
have
the
elevation,
the
spot,
elevations
that
we're
taking
throughout
this
process
to
show
what
the
what
the
change
in
height
is
and
we've
had
several
conversations
with
the
mesa
vista
subdivision
members
and
they've
been
you
know,
providing
feedback
throughout
this
process
and
I
think
we've
I
feel
like
we.
We
settled
on
a
pretty
good
arrangement
with
where
we
ended
up
with
three
stories
and
we
took
all
the
condensers
off
the
roof.
Q
We
made
the
roof
green
and
then
there
were
a
couple
other
things
I
think
as
well.
So
yeah,
that's
yeah.
I
guess
that's
it.
D
Yeah,
it
gets
the
only
other
question
that
was
brought
forth
to
or
some
of
the
mature
trees
on
the
hillside
too.
Mr
john,
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
you
guys
can
address
or
staff
can
bring
up
the
landscape
plan.
Q
Yeah,
I
I
can
address
that-
I
don't
know
exactly
which
trees
ryan
was
talking
about.
You
know
we,
we
went
through
the
tree
mitigation
conversation
with
city
council
and
the
building
is
going
to
well
that
both
both
our
group
and
the
city
has
done
a
tree
survey
on
the
property,
and
I
know
a
large
majority
of
the
trees
we're
not
in
good
shape.
There
are
some
that
are
we
recognize
that
and
we've
agreed
to
mitigate
250
caliper
inches,
and
I
think
where
we
are
right
now.
Q
I'd
have
to
check
with
our
landscape
architect,
but
I
think
we're
right
around
like
110
on
site
and
then
part
of
city
council's
approval
was
to
mitigate
whatever
the
remaining
amount
was
within
two
miles
of
the
site,
and
then
we've
also
worked
with
the
parks,
department
or
forestry
to
locate
a
couple
parks
right
around
the
site
that
we're
targeting
for
for
those
plantings.
D
Neighbors
also
working
with
the
city
and
different
departments
there
to
come
up
with
the
solution
on
this
corner,
with
with
the
information
that
has
been
presented
and
all
the
information
on
the
grading,
the
survey
information
from
what
mitch
says
that
the
building
the
top
of
the
building
will
not
be
obstructing
the
views
of
the
folks
on
the
hill
residents
on
the
hill.
D
Having
that
data,
are
there
any
questions?
Any
concerns
from
the
committee
on
what's
being
presented
here,
mr.
I
Chairman,
yes,
I
guess
maybe
it's
for
the
city,
if
or
the
staff
is
there,
a
landscape
plan
like
in
plan
view
that
you
can
pull
up
just
to
look
at
I'm.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know.
Obviously,
some
of
the
existing
trees
are
going
to
be
removed
from
the
site.
That's
pretty
apparent,
just
looking
at
aerial
photos
of
this
site.
I
In
general,
it
looks
like
there's
what
I
think
they're
calling
a
naturalized
landscape
area
along
the
slope
there.
That
looks
like
it's
just
hatched
with
some
turf.
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
restrictions
on
planting
within
that
zone,
but
if
there
are
a
large
amount
of
mature
trees
that
get
removed
along
that
slope,
you
know
kind
of
based
on
some
of
the
public
comment.
I
I
J
D
J
D
Next
item
to
be
heard
tonight
is
item
number
seven.
It's
drh21-0
location
is
200
north
fourth
street,
and
with
that
I
turn
it
over
to
you.
Josh
for
staff's
presentation.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Members
of
the
commission.
As
mentioned
the
subject,
application
is
at
200
north
fourth
street
in
downtown
boise,
and
the
applicant
is
tom
peterson
with
ball
ventures
alquest.
The
subject.
Property
is
currently
houses,
an
iccu
branch
with
a
drive
through
some
surface
parking,
a
public
alley
and
also
an
approximately
1
500
square
foot
office,
building
on
a
site
at
the
edge
of
the
core
of
downtown
surrounded
on
the
north,
by
bannock,
on
the
west,
by
4th
street
and
on
the
south
by
idaho
street.
B
The
area
is
a
mix
of
intense
downtown
uses
to
the
west
transitioning
into
what
has
traditionally
been
a
residential
neighborhood
to
the
north
and
east.
There
are
single-story
office
buildings,
single-story
residences.
B
There
is
a
residential
tower
to
the
east
of
the
site
on
an
adjacent
block
and
it's
an
area
of
emerging
mixed
uses
within
downtown.
I
would
comment
that
there's
also
a
residential
building
to
the
north
on
that
block
the
jefferson
which
was
approved
some
time
ago,
the
applicant
proposed
a
rezone
and
conditional
use
permit
to
city
council.
B
After
an
initial
hearing
with
with
city
council,
the
applicant
was
asked
to
revise
that
proposal
due
to
a
number
of
concerns
to
address
the
impacts
on
the
neighborhood
and
to
blend
that
into
downtown
the
core
to
the
west.
More
appropriately,
those
recommended
changes
have
been
presented
tonight.
The
applicant
has
did
receive
approval
from
city
council
for
a
13
and
11
story
project.
B
The
13
story
portion
is
capped
at
199
feet
and
the
11
story
portion
is
capped
at
136
feet.
The
applicant's
proposal
includes
structured
parking,
which
spans
the
entire
site
on
the
second
through
six
stories
does
span
that
existing
alley
and
that
alley
is
maintained
as
a
circulation
route
into
the
parking
garage.
There
are
some
services
located
off
of
that
alley,
interior
to
the
project
as
well.
B
B
The
north
side
of
the
block
separated
by
that
alley
is
the
residential
portion
of
the
of
the
project.
It
does
have
some
commercial
space
on
the
ground
floor
and
then
parking
above
and
then
residential
above
that
you
will
note
that
some
increased
setbacks
have
been
provided
on
the
east
side
of
the
site
adjacent
to
those
some
office
buildings.
B
That
will
remain
that
setback
varies
from
20
to
25
feet
and
has
been
proposed
with
a
pedestrian
pathway
which
extends
all
the
way
from
idaho
to
bannock,
and
then
some
landscaping,
part
of
the
requirements
from
city
council,
were
to
retain
some
existing
mature
trees
on
site
and
go
above
and
beyond
when
it
comes
to
protecting
those
trees.
B
B
B
They
have
used
different
techniques
to
screen
that
parking
in
regards
to
the
north
and
south
elevations
on
the
north
elevation,
a
green
screen
system
has
been
proposed
to
take
advantage
of
that
shadier
cooler
out
north
elevation
to
help
screen
the
parking
structure
on
the
remaining
elevations.
They
have
proposed
a
mixture
of
mesh
steel
mesh
and
then
some
tubular
steel
elements
in
an
abstract
design
pattern
to
help
screen
that
parking.
B
B
Project
report
packet
that
was
sent
out
to
the
committee
contained
a
number
of
public
comments
and
also
the
late
correspondence
that
was
sent
out
as
well.
Many
of
those
comments
are
in
relation
to
that
parking
screening,
its
effectiveness
in
and
requiring
that
it
be
maintained
in
perpetuity,
especially
in
relation
to
that
green
screen
on
the
north
elevation.
B
We
did
request
of
the
applicant
to
bring
additional
details
of
those
materials
to
the
hearing
tonight,
to
demonstrate
the
success
of
that
screening
and
to
provide
some
information
on
those
plant
materials,
their
suitability
for
the
boise
climate
and
their
plans
to
ensure
success
of
those
plant
materials
moving
forward.
B
The
residential
tower
has
been
proposed
with
some
slightly
different
materials
and
design
language
than
this
than
the
office
tower.
On
the
south,
half
of
the
block
both
contain
metal
paneling
some
grfc
panels.
B
They
have
indicated
they
will
have
that
information
tonight,
but
the
intent
was
that
those
panels
are
of
a
smooth,
refined
finish
that
would
more
mimic
a
metal
panel
than
than
say
an
aefus
appearance,
with
a
with
a
rougher
texture,
something
more
appropriate
for
the
downtown
core
appropriate
for
the
design
of
the
building
and
something
that
would
mesh
with
those
metal
panels
well
and
the
applicant
has
indicated
they
will
have
that
information
present
tonight.
B
So
again,
those
conditions
of
approval
that
I
would
note
include
providing
additional
information
on
that
garage
screening
method,
including
both
the
metal
mesh
for
its
suitability
and
then
those
plant
materials
for
the
boise
climate
and
their
success.
B
It
should
be
clear
that,
if
that,
if
a
solution
is
not
found
and
that
parking
structure
changes
that
ramping,
it
changes
the
exterior
of
the
building,
you
know
they
do
have
a
height
limit
set
forth
in
the
development
agreement.
All
of
those
things
have
to
be
met
and
any
revised
design
that
on
the
exterior
of
the
building,
would
come
back
to
the
committee
for
final
approval.
So
they
will
continue
to
work
with
acht
through
those
issues
see
if
they
can
make
that
ramping
work
within
their
constraints.
B
Some
additional
conditions
of
approval,
fairly
standard
that
you
know
any
any
changes
to
that
trash
area
in
the
alley.
With
those
discussions
with
achd
and
the
applicant
will
have
to
be
submitted
for
approval,
rooftop
mechanical
units
shall
be
screened
to
full
height
and
details
shall
be
submitted
for
to
staff
for
review,
obtain,
license
agreement
from
a
county
highway
district
for
any
intrusions
into
the
right-of-way,
and
then
the
development
agreement
also
contains
some
language
about
minimizing
light
pollution
and
light
intrusion
on
adjacent
properties.
D
Just
real
quick
on
kind
of
the
density
size
of
the
use
of
the
building,
I
take
it
at
the
the
rezone
comments
were
made
by
the
public
concerning
the
density
and
size
of
the
building,
and
that's
what
prompted
some
of
this.
Or
can
you
just
give
a
little
background
on
the
scale
from
16
down
to
13
on
the
on
the
building
height.
B
There
is
grave
concerns
about
the
impacts
of
this
building
on
that
exis
existing
established
neighborhood
to
the
north
and
east,
which
is
largely
much
smaller
scale
buildings.
B
You
know
this
isn't
an
area
of
downtown,
that's
anticipated
for
continued
urban
growth,
but
it's
kind
of
one
of
those
first
intrusions
into
the
area
and
council
was
was
cognizant
of
that
and
they
required
that
the
design
be
changed
to
address
some
of
those
concerns.
You
know
the
scale
and
mass
of
the
building
and
then
the
impacts,
certainly
of
that
above
grade
parking
and
the
building
on
those
adjacent
properties.
D
Great,
thank
you,
josh
is
the
app
can
present.
I
believe
mr
butler
is
gonna,
be
there.
D
B
T
T
All
right,
thank
you,
staff.
Thank
you,
josh
for
rejoining
us
chairman
marsh
committee
members.
Thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening,
jason
butler
with
cushing,
terrell,
800,
west
maine,
suite
800.,
we're
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
this
evening.
To
present
the
iccu
plaza
and-
and
we
take
no
exception
to
the
staff
report
and
the
staff
summation
of
the
the
conditions
of
approval,
I'm
going
to
move
pretty
quickly
through
a
handful
of
slides.
T
We
have
prepared
on
overall
orientation
and
form
generation
basis
from
the
from
the
downtown
boise
design
guidelines
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
jason
yates.
T
We
do
have
the
benefit
of
a
sketchup
model
and
and
can
move
you
around
through
the
programmatic
elements,
in
any
specific
criteria
which
you
would
like
to
see,
and
then
we
are
joined
tonight
by
the
applicant's
council
who
will
give
a
summation
of
of
just
the
hearing
process
and
the
efforts
that
have
been
underway
on
this
project
over
the
course
of
the
last
handful
of
months.
T
Real
quickly,
the
frontages
that
at
hand
generally
going
to
move
around
the
building
from
from
the
south
in
idaho
street
to
fourth
and
and
then
up
to
bannock,
idaho
street,
as
as
we
all
know,
is
a
is
a
commercial
mixed
use.
Frontage,
designation
and
again
you'll
see
some
of
the
buildings,
orientation
and
programmatic
elements
that
are
responsive
to
that
designation,
fourth
street,
being
a
landscape
designated
street
and
hispanic
to
the
north
being
a
landscape
street
as
well.
T
One
unique
feature
of
this
site,
the
fourth
and
idaho
intersection
is,
is
a
high
visibility
gateway
identified
component
with
the
property,
the
setbacks,
just
a
quick
summation
of
those,
the
blue
line
or
the
the
lower
levels
again
moving
from
idaho
forth
and
up
to
bannock
the
idaho
street
setback
in
recognition
of
that
gateway.
Designation
at
the
intersection
of
fourth
in
idaho.
T
Does
the
office
tower
does
slide
back
a
little
bit
from
a
a
five
foot
step
back
on
the
on
the
south
east
corner
to
the
southwest
corner,
where
it
steps
back
to
about
18
feet
down
on
the
with
the
c5
designation
that
that
the
site
went
through
and
and
with
that
change
of
the
zoning
designation,
we
do
have
a
zero
foot
setback
on
the
idaho
street
frontage
and
that
commercial
street
nature.
T
T
The
office
component
on
4th
street
is
is
set
back,
is
right
on
the
property
line
at
a
zero
foot
setback
and
then,
as
we
move
around
to
the
north
and
the
fourth
street
and
bannock
intersection,
the
multi-family
portion
steps
back
to
five
feet
on
4th
street
5
feet
above
the
the
parking
structure
on
on
bannock
and
then,
as
we
move
around
to
the
plaza
space
and
the
the
north-south
circulation
mid-block,
we've
got
a
20-foot
setback
from
the
property
line
and
then
even
subsequently,
more
above
the
sixth
floor,
with
a
30-foot
setback
at
the
multi-family.
T
So
just
a
quick
orientation
there
ahead
of
moving
towards
the
model.
This
is
a
unique,
unique
building.
It's
a
very
building
of
health,
wellness,
24-hour
use
with
multi-family
residential
components,
certainly
on
the
site.
It's
a
it's
an
efficient
and
and
staff
summited.
The
land
use
is,
is
a
dense
in
nature.
T
It's
a
very
urban
project,
but
but
some
of
the
moves
that
are
certainly
made
is
minimizing.
T
The
heat
island
effect
of
a
of
a
a
large
surface
parking
lot
and
component
within
our
downtown
core
you'll,
see
within
the
model
here
shortly
daylight
and
views
protected
and
and
enhanced
from
the
from
the
users
and
renters
within
the
multi-family
project
and
and
separation
from
the
medical
users
and
then
the
prioritization
of
plantings,
preservation
of
the
landscape
materials
that
the
landscape,
architects
are
are
acutely
aware
of,
and
prioritization
of
those
existing
trees
that
were
some
summarized
in
the
staffs
report.
T
You'll
see
as
we
go
up
the
the
ground
floor
is
largely
service,
commercial
in
nature.
The
parking
decks
from
from
two
through
six
with
medical
office
office
above
and
then
the
multi-family
on
the
north
tower.
T
Circulation
connections-
idaho
street,
as
we
know,
is
a
town
center
arterial,
inbound
from
from
east
to
west
fourth
street
town
center,
collector
two-way
in
nature,
bannik
street,
the
town
center
collector,
as
well
with
two-way
in
nature.
The
project
does
enhance
the
bike,
circulation
and
bike
like
network
that
exists
today
in
in
bannock,
real
quickly
orientation
for
for
building
entry,
idaho
street,
we
do
have
a
lobby
oriented
to
the
medical
office
functions
above
and
the
designated
elevator
core
for
for
those
users
and
and
tenants.
T
The
office
floors
do
have
their
own
separated
core
and
an
elevator
bank
adjacent
to
the
iccu
branch
that
make
up
the
uppermost
portion
of
the
building
the
top
two
floors
again
that
gateway
corner
with
a
signature,
public
entry
for
the
idaho
central
credit
union
and
and
replacement
of
their
existing
operations
that
exists
today
on
site,
as
we
move
up
fourth
street
to
the
fourth
and
bannock
intersection.
T
T
Looking
at
that
as
all
season
restaurant
activity
and
and
benefit
there
with
within
the
overhang
of
structure
above
and
then
the
mid-block
on
the
bannock
street
north
elevation,
the
entry
to
the
multi-family
product
and
and
the
apartment
buildings
above,
one
unique
aspect
of
this
project-
certainly
is
the
the
north
south
connectivity
and
and
the
plaza
that
exists,
mid-block
and
the
circulation
benefit
to
the
community.
T
We
do
have
three
lower
walk-up
units
that
will
be
highlighted
within
the
model
here
shortly
from
a
access
standpoint.
We
do
have
bank
traffic
there
there
there
exist,
teller
lines
and
and
part
of
the
approval
was
the
conditional
use
to
continue
the
the
teller
line.
T
Drive-Through
of
the
of
the
existing
iccu
branch,
which
comes
off
of
bannock
street,
so
careful
consideration
and
and
really
a
broad,
drive-through,
well
lighted,
very,
very
accommodating
where
those
those
cars
will
move
from
north
to
south
and
then
exit
out
the
alley
back
to
fourth
street
and
can
choose
to
disperse
north,
north
or
south
from
there.
T
The
project
contemplates
and
and
accommodates
structured
parking
off
of
idaho
street
and
in
the
drive-in
drive-out
ramp
again
on
the
on
the
commercial
service.
Nature
and
designation
of
idaho
street
is
where
the
project
chose
and
we
chose
to
bring
the
garage
access
and
then
one
item
you'll
see
in
the
model
is,
is
certainly
the
bike
network
enhancements
and
and
so
on.
T
So
we
do
have
upwards
of
40
to
50,
covered
bike
spaces
at
the
ground
floor,
available
to
the
public
and
adjacent
to
the
restaurant
space,
and
certainly
the
the
bank
branch
and
then
up
above
within
the
parking
structure.
We
do
have
a
number
of
parking
spaces
bike
parking
spaces
designated
for
for
use
within
the
garage
structure.
T
Internal
open
space
again
just
moving
into
some
of
the
graphics.
You
see
the
three
walk-up
units
in
the
the
plaza
mid-block
crossing
the
this
is
north
looking
south,
but
really
the
teams
paid
attention
to
the
the
dining
and
patio
feature
really
the
placement
of
materials
that
are
tactic
tactical
and
warm,
and
and
really
resonated
street
level
that
you
saw
submitted
in
the
in
the
packet
from
from
staff.
T
The
this
north-south
plaza
area.
We're
really
excited
about
and
and
potential
opportunities
for,
incorporation
of
art
within
this
area,
and
certainly
within
the
drive-through
of
the
of
the
bank
branch
and
so
on.
T
The
gateway
intersect
intersection
designation
really
offers
the
enhancement
of
the
street
character
for
this
site,
in
particular
generous
public
space
at
the
corner,
entry
and
and
really
you're
gonna,
see
a
distinctive
corner
and
and
building
top
signature
at
this
corner,
benefiting
our
skyline
for
years
to
come.
T
Featuring
the
speaking
to
the
surface
area
here
real
quickly,
a
couple
of
line
drawings,
the
upper
is
looking
at
the
alley.
Space
from
from
east
to
west
and
thoughtful
consideration
of
of
just
the
the
nature
of
the
alley
use
trash
collection
is
is,
is
anticipated
to
be
separated
from
the
north
tower
and
the
residential
waste
and
the
south
tower
and
the
and
the
office
medical
waste.
T
The
lower
image
really
broadens
out.
You
see
that
integration
of
the
the
bike
parking
and
really
opening
up
the
corner
to
you
know
for
security,
for
safety
for
cleanliness
aspect
as
as
users
come
up
out
of
the
alley,
so
a
very
durable
serviceable
space
that
is
well
planned
and
limits
visibility
from
from
street
neighborhood
and
again
another
aspect
to
that,
but
moving
towards
the
architectural
character.
T
This
is
a
unique
and
distinctive
original
building
design,
there's
much
character
that
exists
within
the
neighborhood,
but
this
building
is
is
contemporary,
is
of
today
and
is,
is
ready
to
be
constructed
and
and
efficient
in
its
its
nature
and
contributes
positively
to
our
skyline
in
a
in
a
landmark
fashion,
but
again
those
those
warm
tactical
materials.
You
see
the
retail
corner,
the
lower
level
of
the
retail
corner
and
and
integration
of
arts
and
the
bike
parking.
T
The
massing
and
articulation
of
the
skyline
is
is
certainly
unique
and
and
and
the
team
was
very
conscientious-
of
the
keeping
the
east
west
with
within
the
180
foot
with
and
and
offers
a
distinct
roof
line
to
the
to
the
skyline
of
our
city.
T
So
we'll
highlight
a
few
of
these
pieces.
I'm
gonna
move
into
the
sketchup
model
here
pretty
quickly,
but
certainly
the
landscape,
designation
and
the
and
the
creative
use
of
the
the
green
element.
The
garage
screening
we're
gonna
speak
to
here
quickly
and
and
move
into
the
model.
That's
a
unique
aspect
to
this
project
and
the
the
landscaping
designation
of
forth
and
bannock.
T
Invite
you
to
really
pay
attention
to
the
the
building
top
when
we
get
into
the
model
fully
accessible
and
and
a
walkout
space
for
a
meeting
meeting
room
at
the
at
the
top
of
the
building
in
the
office
functions
again.
T
The
the
mindful
use
of
branding
and
wayfinding
nature
of
the
building
is,
first
and
foremost
in
our
mind
and
and
and
then
the
parking
structure
screening
which,
which
we'll
address
here
shortly,
the
creative
use
of
separation
of
the
of
the
structure
and
and
the
the
two
towers
north
and
south
towers.
T
If
you
will
at
the
garage,
really
pay
attention
to
that,
once
we
move
into
them
into
the
model
here
as
well,
we
do
have
balconies
that'll,
be
highlighted
and
featured
within
the
model
on
the
on
the
north
tower
and
the
multi-family
component
tree,
the
east
elevation
and
certainly
the
we're
maximizing.
T
We
really
don't
have
any
blank
walls
within
the
project
exercising
the
code
to
its
fullest
extent
in
the
glazing
maximization
that
we're
able
to
on
the
east
elevation
and
in
that
adjacency
of
the
property
line,
the
benefit
of
well-placed,
the
walk-up
units
below
on
the
ground
floor
and
off
of
the
plaza
and
then
certainly
a
well-amenitized
multi-family
product
with
with
roof
amenity
above
the
well
at
the
seventh
level
of
the
multi-family
project.
T
Moving
into
some
of
the
specific
items
from
staff
the
screen
wall,
you
see
designation,
lower,
left
here,
the
anticipated
section
and
just
how
that
that
will
look
in
section
at
a
pretty
schematic
level
at
this
point,
but
nonetheless,
a
very
unique
portion
of
the
building
very
unique
use
of
material
on
the
landscape
designated
streets
on
4th
and
vanic.
T
The
north
parking
elevation,
we're
anticipating
all
season,
color,
really
a
virginia
creeper
that'll,
give
seasonal
color
and
with
low
to
moderate
water
use
and
and
really
provide
a
benefit
to
the
north
elevation
and
in
that
orientation
to
the
north.
The
west
parking
elevation,
we're
planning
on
using
the
the
combination
of
plants
listed
russian
sage,
the
blue
rug,
juniper
and
winter
creeper
really
provide
nice,
winter
habitat
and
year-round
color
and
and
really
a
beautiful
solution
on
that.
T
West
elevation
unique
feature
of
the
building
for
sure,
and
then
you
see
going
to
move
towards
jason
yates,
our
our
lead
designer
for
the
architect
or
for
the
project
and
we'll
start
talk
specifically
within
the
model.
The
mesh
screening
anticipated.
N
The
other
plants
that
are
anticipated
on
4th
street
for
the
west
elevation
are
they're
a
little
larger
in
nature.
They
will
have
more
sun
exposure,
they
they
don't
require
sort
of
a
mesh
or
a
panels
to
climb
up
well,
they'll,
be
more
of
a
draped
over
the
edge
scenario.
As
you
can
see
in
the
section
detail
there
on
the
bottom
left
hand
corner
a
little
bit
about
the
the
gfrc
panel
system.
N
We
have
anticipated
a
smooth
finish.
It
will
be
a
matte
finish
to
the
panel
system
and
and
will
have
a
very
clean,
not
a
knot
similar
to
stucco
or
or
ifis
finish,
but
a
very
clean,
modern
finish.
N
Yes,
okay,
so,
as
you
can
see
here
on
the
on
the
north
residential
tower,
we
do
have.
We
do
have
the
resident
or
the
the
landscape
screen
facing
the
residential
to
the
north.
N
N
We've
also
extended
a
solid
crash
guard
to
the
garage
levels
that
would
be
a
cut
off
for
the
light
pollution
from
park
from
parking
vehicles
or
vehicles,
driving
up
and
down
the
drive
lanes,
as
well
as
extended
that
slightly
below
the
parking
deck
to
help
light
cut
off
for
any
light
pollution
that
that
would
come
from
any
lighting
for
the
general
garage
lighting
and
that
again
exists
on
all
the
levels,
even
as
we
wrap
around
the
building.
N
N
The
branch
drive
through
we're
utilizing
an
existing
curb
cut
that
exists
now
into
the
parking
lot.
That's
on
bannock
there's,
currently
three
curb
cuts
that
pull
into
that
parking
lot.
We
will
be
removing
two
of
them
and
and
maintaining
the
the
center
one
for
access
into
the
drive-through.
N
N
It
also
steps
back,
as
is
mentioned
after
the
parking
garage
level,
to
a
rooftop
amenity
and
an
additional
units
above
helping
kind
of
step
down
a
little
bit
to
the
residential
and
then
the
three
walk-up
units
that
were
discussed
before
that
are
accessed
off.
Of
that
plaza.
Space.
N
The
alleyway
as
it
continues
through
we,
we
do
drop
an
elevation
a
little
bit
to
get
underneath
the
garage
ramp
coming
off
of
idaho
street
we've
been
we've
tried
to
keep
both
the
slopes
of
the
the
parking
garage
ramp
and
the
alleyway
to
reasonable
levels.
So
we
don't
have
very
steep
elevations
our
trash,
as
was
mentioned,
and
services
are
enclosed
within
each
of
the
two
towers
for
the
trash,
so
that
we
don't
take
up
with
overall
width
with
dumpsters
along
the
alley.
Access
as
they
continue
on
to
fourth
street.
N
As
we
continue
on
and
wrapping
around
to
the
south
elevation
again
that
was
mentioned,
we
do
have
more
of
a
step
back.
You
know
we,
we
added
this
angle
to
the
building
on
purpose.
To
help
with
this
kind
of
gateway
corner
that
was
mentioned
also
gives
some
dynamic
to
the
overall
architecture
of
the
building
and
interest.
N
As
we
as
we
get
down
to
some
of
the
certain
portions
of
the
garage
that
are
more
enclosed
and
incorporated
with
the
building.
As
it
drops
down
to
the
lower
levels,
we
have
looked
at
a
perforated
metal
mesh
that
would
act
as
a
screen
kind
of
mimicking
the
glass
facade
as
it
comes
down,
but
giving
ventilation
to
the
garage
and
again
that
continues
down.
N
Butler
mentioned
a
little
bit
about
the
articulation
at
the
top.
We
do
have.
We've
tried
to
screen
any
mechanical
through
the
architecture
instead
of
a
a
large
unit
screen
wall
on
top,
so
it's
kind
of
more
integrated
into
the
design.
N
We've
also
got
this
patio
that
wraps
around
the
upper
floors
of
the
tower.
It
allows
us
to
do.
Maintenance
on
glass
and
cleaning
of
glass
also
allows
for
some
rooftop
amenity
space
off
of
that
upper
office
floor
and
and
capturing
some
of
the
wonderful
views
of
downtown
and
the
foothills.
N
As
we
wrap
again
over
to
the
west
side,
you
can
you
can
start
to
see
some
of
the
mapping
and
articulation
we
try
to.
You
know
with
a
lot
of
mix
of
uses.
N
The
building
is
fairly
complex
and
it's
a
vertical
integration
of
circulation,
but
in
the
architecture
we
tried
to
break
things
into
individual
components
with
mapping.
The
garage
is
its
own.
The
office
tower
as
its
own
and
residential
in
order
to
kind
of
have
them
read
as
different
elements
of
the
project,
instead
of
one
large
mass.
N
It
was
also
mentioned
some
of
the
retail
and
bike
covered
bike
parking
that
we've
added
again.
We
recognize
that
bannock
is
a
pretty
highly
utilized
bike
traffic
path
through
downtown
and
up
to
st
luke's
pathway
system,
and
so
the
need
for
at-grade
parking
has
been
provided.
We
also
have,
as
I
mentioned,
additional
lockable
parking
stalls
up
in
the
garage
levels
for
the
tenants
of
the
building,
so
they
don't,
they
don't
use
all
of
the
ones
on
the
lower
levels
that
are
more
for
public
use.
N
There's
also
been
some
mention
of
some
potential
public
art
and
and
murals,
and
things
that
could
be
added
through
the
projects
to
help
enhance
the
the
ground
level
experience
to
to
pedestrians
and
activating
that
to
that
ground
level.
T
I
think
real
quickly,
jason,
we'll
move
move
back
to
have
jeff
speak
just
real
quickly.
The
last
slide.
T
T
Well,
chairman,
I
believe
that
concludes
our
our
presentation.
G
D
Nice
work.
I
appreciate
the
model
too
and
be
able
to
walk
us
around
there.
You
guys
have
a
couple
of
minutes
for
some
questions.
First
of
all,
just
open
up
to
the
rest
of
the
community.
Do
you
have
questions
for
the
applicants
at
this
moment.
D
I
guess
I
might
start
one
real
quick.
We
went
to
the
like
the
fourth
street
mid
block
view
or
basically,
where
the
tube
steels
are
on
the
parking
garage
portion,
not
a
lot
of
detail
really
what
the
what
the
actual
spangles
are
there
on
the
actual
garage.
D
U
D
N
Yeah,
it's
anticipated
to
be
a
precast
concrete
again
that
the
upper
portion
of
this
we
wanted
to
make
solid
so
that
it
would
screen
the
headlights
as
they
pulled
in.
It
also
acts
as
our
crash
barrier
for
the
garage,
and
then
we
also
extended
it
below
a
little
bit
further
to
help
with
light
cut
off
for
any
light
pollution
to
help
keep
that
all
integrated
into
the
garage.
N
The
the
vertical
elements.
They
are
a
painted
steel,
tube
in
a
random
pattern
to
give
dimension
and
shadow.
D
Right
now,
the
the
those
precast
panels
there
they're
they
anticipated
just
be
have
any
other
detail
to
them.
Are
they
just
kind
of
a
plain
flat
panel.
N
D
Another
quick
question
for
you,
too,
on
appreciate
your
integration
of
the
rooftop
screen
equipment,
larger
tower
so
question
on
the
on
the
smaller
on
the
apartment
portion.
I
didn't
see
any
screening
proposed
on
the
rooftop
units,
but
I
also
didn't
see
any
louvers
or
any
exterior
at
each
individual.
You
know
I
just
just
wondered
how
your
hvac
system
is
going
to
work
there
and
if
there
is
any
proposed
units
to
be
on
the
roof.
N
Yeah
a
couple
couple
things
there:
we've
tried
to
maintain
out
of
the
upper
portions,
the
office
portions
of
the
office
tower
views
to
the
foothills
and
it
was
not
desired
to
have
units
on
the
residential
portion
roof.
It
is
anticipated
to
be
more
of
a
ballast
type
roof.
We
will
have
some,
obviously
some
vent
penetrations
for
plumbing,
but
minimizing
any
mechanical
up.
There
we've
been
looking
at
ptac
units
for
ptac
or
vtec
units
for
the
residential
units
they
would,
they
would
have
louvers
integrated
into
the
architecture.
N
N
We
also
do
have
some
areas
of
the
the
parking
garage
structure
that
are
designated
for
any
if
we
do
have
any
condensing
units
or
anything
that
would
be
contained
down
there
with
with
runs
up
to
the
unit.
K
D
Lighting
proposed,
I
know
kind
of
the
iccu
on
eagle
on
their
new
ones.
Had
some
kind
of
you
know,
light
banding
accent,
lighting
but
didn't
know
if
that's
something
that's
gonna
be
proposed
for
this
building
as
well.
N
Yeah
we've
we've
gone
through
a
lot
of
iterations,
but
so
we've
we've
landed
on.
If
we,
if
we
have
any
integration
of
lighting,
which
we
probably
will
it'll
only
exist
on
the
idaho
street
and
bannock
street
side,
no
lighting
is
anticipated
on
on
the
east
or
the
north
because
of
the
residential.
N
As
far
as
overall
building
accent
lighting,
we
will
have
obviously
security
lighting
and
such
but
we're
limited,
limiting
any
accent
lighting
to
to
the
downs
toward
downtown
and
away
from
the
residence
to
the
north
and
and
east.
G
D
Chairman,
yes,
mr
secular.
F
I
have
a
couple
questions
for
jason
and
jason
and
maybe
jeff
regarding
the
bannock
street.
Screening
of
the
garage
is
virginia
creeper,
the
best
plant
material
for
that
application.
F
The
reason
why
I
ask
is,
I
have
that
on
my
fences
in
my
backyard
and
it's
beautiful
in
the
summer,
it's
beautiful
in
the
fall,
but
then
all
the
leaves
fall
off
in
the
winter.
Will
that
detract
from
the
architecture
and
will
it
also
take
away
from
the
screening
that
I
know
the
neighborhood's
concerned
about
there
and
then
two-part
question?
F
F
Ownership
changes
is
that
going
to
be
a
long-term
commitment
by
the
owner?
Is
it
going
to
follow
the
building?
I'd
like
to
hear
the
response
to
that
as
well?
Oh
and
the
third
comment
regarding
the
p-tac
units,
I
rarely
see
where
that
gets
pulled
off
well
downtown.
So
I'm
not.
I
guess,
I'd
be
really
concerned
about
what
that's
going
to
do
to
your
exterior
elevations.
If
you
do
the
p-techniques.
G
N
Yeah
so
as
as
most
people
know,
a
north
elevation
in
plant
material
is
challenging.
N
N
That's
currently
their
recommendation
to
to
maintain
growth
and
and
and
over
the
life
of
the
building.
So
that
was
their
direct.
I
wish
I
don't
know
if
they're
able
they
were
able
to
join
or
not
and
could
comment
additionally
to
that,
but
that
was
their
direction.
N
And
then,
as
far
as
the
the
vtec
or
ptac
units,
integration
to
the
to
the
to
the
architecture
is
very
important,
and
and
again
we
don't
want
them
to
be
this
sort
of
side,
louver
tacked
on
piece,
we've,
we've
kind
of
gone
through
scenarios
of
being
able
to
have
them
integrated,
and
one
of
the
reasons
for
the
material
change
within
the
the
window.
N
Bands
is
to
help
integrate
that
as
part
of
the
architecture
and
instead
of
having
it
be
just
a
tacked
on
sidewall
piece,
so
yeah,
the
details
of
that
are
are
important
to
us.
N
I
don't
know
if
there
was
a
if
there
was
any
raised
hands
from
our
landscape
group
that
was
trying
to
join
earlier.
D
N
Yeah
I'll
have
jeff
wardle
address
that.
U
So,
obviously
you
know
committee
member
aguilar's
question
is
is
valid
because
we
don't
want
it
to
look
bad
and
we
want
it
to
be
accessible,
and
so,
when
you
look
at
the
design
and
go
back
to
the
the
study
that
was
provided
earlier,
we
have
ensured
that
it's
always
accessible
for
maintenance
purposes
from
the
garage.
So
it
can
be
maintained.
The
plants
can
be
taken
care
of
from
the
inside
of
the
garage
and
we
can
address
it
that
way.
So
you
know
it's
it's
a
comprehensive
element.
I
Mr
chairman,
this
committee
member
sample,
I
did
have
a
quick
comment,
just
really,
echoing
committee
member
aguilar's
initial
comment
regarding
the
plant
material
on
the
north
elevation,
I
would
like
to
see
the
incorporation
of
at
least
one
evergreen
variety.
There
I
think
virginia
creeper
does
provide
a
lot
of
benefit
there.
It
would
do
very
well
there.
I
The
view
during
the
winter
along
there,
just
because
I
not
only
for
the
benefit
of
the
residence
but
also
for
the
maintaining
of
this
look,
that
you're
going
for
the
model
on
here
looks
excellent.
If
that
was
all
brown
and
leafless
and
sticks,
I
don't
know
if
it's
accomplishing
the
same
thing.
I
D
B
I
was
remiss
in
mentioning
before
that.
It
was
pointed
out
to
staff
that
the
construction
hour
condition
on
the
conditional
use
permit
and
the
one
proposed
in
the
design
review
staff
report
do
not
match
up.
We
would
recommend
that
that
this
body
defer
to
those
construction
hours
in
the
cup
staff
report
that
was
vetted
by
council
and
through
that
rezone
and
cup
process.
So
I
would
just
recommend
modifying
condition,
number
10
and
the
staff
report
to
refer
to
the
cup
20-000
hours
of
construction.
D
Thank
you
josh
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
or
is
from
the
committee
for
the
applicant
this
morning
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
This
point.
Is
there
a
member
of
the
neighborhood
association
that
is
willing
to
speak
tonight
on
this
wanting
to
testify
either
virtually
raise
your
hand
or
in
person.
D
Nancy
kois,
so
if
you'd,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
please.
W
B
If
you'd
like
to
show
a
video
we'll
promote
you
to
a
panelist
real
quickly,.
W
So
much
I
appreciate
it
so
number
one
picking
up
on
the
comment
that
was
made
during
the
presentation
quote
the
contemporary
nature
of
the
building.
Close
quote:
yes,
this
building
it
doesn't
fit
with
that
neighborhood.
W
So
this
is
a
big
deal,
because
a
building
that
a
building
that
looks
like
something
along
the
interstate
is
being
thrust
into
a
neighborhood.
That
does
not
look
like
that.
Okay,
that's
a
point
I
want
to
make
and
I
I
think
there's
nothing
to
reverse
it
going
forward,
but
making
that
point.
This
is
a
massive
doesn't
make
sense
now
and
the
entire
pnz
turned
this
zoning
change
down
and
half
the
city
council.
So
this
wasn't
just
like
a
straightforward
vote.
Everybody
wants
and
loves
this.
W
W
I
love
my
neighbors
I'm
on
board
with
them,
but
the
one
thing
I'm
not
on
board
with
is
those
plants
along
the
wall.
I
recommend
go
down
to
10th
street
to
the
119.
The
condo
unit
called
119..
They
did
that
and
when
you
put
something
like
that
up,
it's
in
varying
degrees
of
life
and
death,
a
point
was
just
made
by
someone
saying
who's
going
to
maintain
this.
You
cannot
enforce
maintenance
of
that
through
the
years,
so
I
would
say
that
that
was
thrown
in
at
the
last
minute
by
council
person,
clint
clegg
without
discussion.
W
I
don't
know
where
it
came
from
suddenly
thrown
in
to
do
that.
I
recommend
against
that
and
if
it
is
carried
through
with
what
she
had
as
a
stipulation,
please
don't
do
it
on
the
rest
of
the
sides
of
the
wall.
That's
just
my
opinion.
You
can't
maintain
it.
It
doesn't
look
good,
it's
half
a
live,
half
dead,
you're
watering,
the
building
waters.
It's
it's
up
to
me
a
mess
and
three:
where
is
zero
emission?
In
this
conversation?
W
This
is
a
building
that's
being
built
during
a
time
when
the
conversation
globally
is
zero
emission.
This
is
a
developer
that
has
never
built
a
zero
emission
building.
This
is
a
developer,
who
definitely
collaborates
with
our
zero
emission
consultants
in
our
city.
But
where
is
the
zero
emission
piece
to
this
building?
Are
we
building
a
building
that
they
say,
oh
we're,
building
for
those
who
are
going
to
be
40
here,
40
years
from
now
well
in
40
years?
Is
this
just
going
to
be?
W
Is
this
going
to
be
all
wrong
before
it's
even
built
for
where
we're
going,
and
those
are
my
three
comments,
and
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
D
At
this
time,
we
open
up
the
rest,
the
public
for
testimony
tonight,
whether
you're
in
person
or
virtually
josh.
You
have
anybody
in
person
that
is
willing
to
testify
tonight
on
this
item.
D
X
Absolutely
my
name
is
cindy
shaffield
and
I
live
at
200
north
jefferson,
I'm
here
tonight,
speaking
about
the
bva
towers,
and
you
have
heard
them
say
many
times.
These
are
towers,
they
are
correct.
They
are
towers
that
do
not
belong
in
our
neighborhood
as
a
resident
in
this
neighborhood.
I
would
like
some
clarification.
X
X
As
a
person
who
moved
downtown,
I
would
like
to
see
the
alley
remain
an
alley
with
no
level
with
no
decline.
This
is
public
property,
but
dipping
it
down
will
not
feel
safe
or
accessible
if
the
alley
site
is
not
visible
to
the
other
end,
no
one
will
know
that
it
is
an
alley
access.
You
would
have
to
be
crazy
to
walk
down
the
alley
when
you
cannot
see.
What's
at
the
other
end,
please
keep
it
at
street
level.
X
On
my
way
here,
I
walk
down
every
alley
to
get
here
open,
clean,
safe,
but
it
was
all
street
level
as
far
as
the
outside
building
material.
I
would
like
to
see
it's
stone
natural,
not
so
much
glass
as
the
other
downtown
buildings
and
as
the
i8
I-84
corridor.
Remember
this
is
our
neighborhood.
It's
not
their
neighborhood,
it's
our
neighborhood!
We
live
here.
X
I
would
like
to
see
that
this
building
belongs.
We
already
know
the
height
is
way
out
of
scale,
and
that's
something
that's
already
done
so
please
make
this
building
look
like.
It
belongs
in
the
neighborhood,
I'm
not
able
to
say
right
now
what
choices
we
can
make,
because
I
don't
know
I've
never
seen.
Actually,
this
is
the
stone.
X
X
We
know
their
style,
they
like
to
build
what
they
build
on
I-84,
it's
big
lots
of
windows
and
it
is
not
meant
to
be
seen
by
pedestrians.
We
live
in
this
neighborhood.
We
walk
in
this
neighborhood.
We
ride
our
bikes,
we're
not
going
70
miles
an
hour
down
the
freeway.
Please
make
it
beautiful,
so
we
are
proud
of
it
right
now.
X
As
a
previous
speaker,
that's
not
something
that
we're
proud
of.
As
for
the
parking
lot,
we've
already
talked
about
that.
Okay,
they
want
to
make
it
look
green.
That
would
be
amazing
but
two
questions
that
they
didn't
answer.
They
said
they
would
maintain
it,
but
they
didn't
say
how
what
happens
when
they
die.
The
plants
die
who's,
going
to
keep
it
green
and
how's
it
going
to
be
enforced.
They
said
it
is
part
of
the
condominium
and
how
they
do
things,
but
they
didn't
answer
who's
going
to
maintain
it.
X
They
said
we'll
take
care
of
it
from
the
garage
they
didn't
say
who's
going
to
maintain
it,
and
how
is
it
going
to
look,
there's
neighbors
on
every
side
and
I'm
like
nancy.
I
think
all
of
them
need
to
have
some
kind
of
a
screening.
They
need
to
be
beautiful,
not
dead,
ugly
plants,
but
it
needs
to
be
maintained
and
there.
J
D
Josh
are
there
other
members
of
the
public
that
are
in
person
wishing
to
testify
tonight.
D
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
virtually
that
would
like
to
testify
tonight?
If,
if
you
do,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
Y
Susan
to
self
421,
west
franklin
street-
and
I
just
agree
with
what
both
nancy
and
cindy
had
to
say
this
building
is
something
that
you
drive
by
at
65
miles
an
hour,
not
something
you
walk
by
every
day
in
your
neighborhood.
It's
it's
big.
It's
dark!
It's
ominous!
Y
It's
I
own
a
condo
in
the
imperial
plaza.
You
know
it's
looking
right
into
the
parking
garage
is
not
what
I
had
in
mind
when
I
got
that
I
mean
I
just.
I
just
feel
that
all
venture
you
know,
if
you
look
at
their
website,
they
they
talk
about
their
company,
delivers
excellence
and
value
to
tenants,
investors
and
partners
through
projects
that
inspire
well.
Y
It
seems
like
all
they
really
are
looking
for
is
their
return
here
and
not
doing
something
good
for
you
know
the
boise
city
original
town
site,
which
is
where
this
project
is
located.
So
I
would
hope
that
you,
with
your
wisdom,
can
help
make
this
a
little
less
passive
and
obnoxious
to
and
unsympathetic
to
the
neighborhood.
D
H
H
H
H
Lastly,
I'd
like
to
say
that
I
think
the
public
should
have
the
opportunity
to
comment
again
on
this
project
if
the
design
changes
significantly
due
to
ada
county
highway
district's
requirements
for
the
alley.
Thank
you.
I
do
have
another
member
of
my
household,
that's
using
the
same
computer,
who
also
signed
up
to
testify.
Z
Z
I
I
want
to
just
note
a
couple
things
that
that
that
concern
me
about
the
design
and
what
I
hope
you'll
address
and
and
what
we're
really
looking
for
here
is-
is
quality
materials.
Z
It's
already
been
stated
that
the
rezone
of
this
property
was
approved
by
a
very
narrow
margin
at
the
city
council,
and
I
don't
want
to
re-litigate
that.
But
I
want
that
to
inform
your
review.
This
was
not
a
slam
dunk.
This
is
the
insertion
of
a
massive
mega
tower
into
a
residential
neighborhood
of
projects
that
are
mainly
one
to
two
stories,
but
no
taller
than
135
feet.
So
please
use
that
to
inform
your
your
your
decision
making
here.
There
is
quite
a
bit
of
missing
information.
Z
We
don't
know
if
these
are
quality
materials,
because
the
information
is
not
readily
available
in
the
design
plan,
as
as
presented
the
screening
of
the
garage.
This
will
be
a
repeated
issue
that
you
hear
before
for
you
tonight.
Fourth
and
bannock
deserve
screened
garage
levels.
I
totally
agree
with
that
and
when
the
council
asked
for
a
screened
garage,
they
did
not
necessitate
a
vegetative
screen.
Z
So
I
just
point
out:
there's
not
a
requirement
of
vegetative
screening,
but
there
is
no
similar
and
and
really
equal
screening
of
the
east
and
south
elevations.
Z
There
are
residences
on
every
elevation,
not
just
the
north,
not
just
the
west,
but
the
east
and
south
as
well.
Please
don't
change
the
please,
don't
substitute
a
poor
material
for
a
quality
material,
but
please
do
give
us
equitable
treatment
on
all
four
elevations
of
the
building.
Z
There's
other
missing
information
in
the
packet
I'd
point
out
that
the
materials
that
would
that
would
be
used
on
the
facade
of
the
coffee,
bar,
etc.
On
the
first
floor
at
fourth
and
bannock,
no
information
about
those
materials,
there's
a
lot
of
missing
information.
Here
you
had
to
ask
about
the
treatment
of
the
concrete
on
the
garage
levels:
that's
because
they
didn't
provide
that
information.
Z
Z
D
D
Seeing
none
josh,
I
is
there
anybody
else
there
in
person.
D
Thank
you
very
much
at
this
point.
I'd
bring
it
back
to
the
applicants
for
any
other
closing
statements
in
response
to
items
that
have
been
addressed
here
tonight
by
the
public.
U
Commissioner
committee
members,
we
appreciate
the
time
we
appreciate
the
effort
that
staff
went
to
this
and
we're
not
going
to
take
too
much
more
of
your
time.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
this
project
has
been
was
reviewed
by
city
council.
Twice
was
reviewed
by
planning
a
zoning
commission
and
we
took
to
heart
at
every
step
the
direction
that
they
gave
us.
Additionally,
we
did
five
neighborhood
meetings.
U
Two
electronic
three
are
in
person
and
a
variety
of
other
meetings
with
adjoining
property
owners
to
the
extent
that
reasonable
suggestions
were
made,
we
incorporated
and
we
addressed
them,
we
are.
We
are
sensitive
to
the
fact
that
most
of
the
statements
that
you've
heard
tonight
really
are
an
attempt
to
re-litigate
issues
that
the
city
council
reviewed.
The
screening
that
we
proposed
tonight
is
totally
consistent
with
what
the
city
council
have
indicated
that
they
wanted
to
see,
and
we
made
those
changes
from
the
very
beginning.
U
We
knew
it
was
important
to
screen
vehicles
and
that's
why
a
solid
concrete
panel
has
been
utilized
on
all
of
those
elevations.
This
is
not
an
open
garage
like
some
of
the
other
garages
downtown.
It
is
screened
from
the
view
below
and
more
importantly,
along
4th
street,
from
the
very
beginning
as
we
analyze
that
to
have
the
the
variation
in
the
elevations
and
to
have
have
a
better
street
presence.
We
push
the
garage
back.
U
So
when
we
talk
about
screening
the
garage,
I
think
we've
gone
above
and
beyond,
we've
satisfied
and
done
exactly
what
the
city
council
did.
We
have
identified
and
provided
screening
from
the
very
beginning.
This
isn't
an
issue
where
we've
had
to
be
dragged,
kicking
and
screening
to
provide
screening
it's
an
integral
part
of
where
it
is,
but
we
think
it's
appropriate
where
we
have
proposed
it,
and
it
takes
away
from
the
architectural
elements
that
have
been
designed
by
cushing
terminal.
U
This
is
intended
to
be
two
towers
with
an
interlocking
with
an
interlocking
box
that
projects
through
it,
and
we
think
that
that
captures
exactly
what
this
is.
We
are
in
agreement
with
the
conditions
of
approval.
We
believe
that
the
materials
here
are
appropriate
and
while
people
can
say
that
this
is
a
suburban
office
park
building,
it
is
not
for
the
better
part
of
a
year
when
we
first
made
this
application
in
may
of
last
year,
we
have
designed
and
redesigned
and
listened
to,
staff
listened
to.
Neighbors
listened
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
U
Listen
to
city
council,
the
objections
and
concerns
that
you've
heard
tonight
are
really
just
a
re-litigation
of
the
use
and
the
conditional
use
permit.
I'm
proud
of
this
project.
I
think
cushing
terrell
has
done
a
phenomenal
job,
I'm
proud
of
my
clients
on
this
project,
because
I
believe
that
we
have
gov
above
and
beyond.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
dispute
really
is
about
use
and
height,
and
those
are
issues
that
were
resolved
by
the
city
council.
U
D
Yeah,
thank
you
for
clarifications.
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
questions.
C
D
Came
up-
and
this
is
probably
a
question
for
jason
or
the
rest
of
the
design
staff
and
one
of
those
was
the
coffee
shop,
some
of
the
street
presence
yeah.
Obviously
this
is
a
larger
building
that
then
currently
is
in
that
context,
with
exception
to
the
imperial
tower
next
door,
the
streetscape
of
the
pedestrian
side
is
obviously
going
to
be
very
important.
This
is
where
most
people
will
interact
with
the
building.
Can
you
walk
us
through
some
of
the
materials
that
you
do
are
indicating
on
that
street
level?
D
Maybe
I
know
there's
the
one
shot
you
guys
have
a
written
dream
there.
I
think
it's
a
fourth
street
mid
block
view
with
the
coffee
bar
looks
like
there's
also,
maybe
some
brick
or
something
that's
dark,
colored
as
well
down
on
those
glass
but
same
thing
with
the
northwest
street
view.
On
your
perspective,.
T
Yeah
chairman,
I
think
that
that'll
be
best
addressed
yeah.
Thank
you,
jason
within
the
sketchup
model
and
and
as
as
I
mentioned
in
my
portion,
the
presentation
early
on.
We
really
paid
attention
to
those
materials
that
are
most
tactile
tactile.
Warm.
You
see
a
wood
grain
finish,
not
not
a
wood
material,
necessarily
because
we
need
to
maintain
the
level
of
quality
and
and
weather
ability,
but
yeah
jason.
Maybe
maybe
you
take
us
through
some
of
these
at
the
ground
floor
here.
N
Yeah
we
did
incorporate
some
brick
down
low
for
durability
and
for
the
tactile
nature
that
was
just
discussed.
The
wood
look
elements
that
we
see
on
the
what's
shown
as
coffee
bar.
That's
an
extruded
aluminum
wood
look
panel,
it's
the
very
similar
material
that
was
used
on
maine
and
marketplace
in
their
renovation.
That
was
done
with
their
overhangs
and
some
of
their
ceiling
elements
there
same
sort
of
material.
N
We
are
a
type
1a
construction,
so
the
ability
to
have
real
wood
because
it's
flammable
and
stuff
is
not
allowed,
but
we
did
want
to
bring
that
warmth
that
warm
nature
of
wood.
It's
very
you
can
go
up
and
actually
it's
hard
to
tell
that.
It's
not
it's
a
very
high
quality
product
and-
and
we
can
get
samples
of
that
too.
So
those
are
the
two
materials
that
sounds
like
that's
in
question.
D
D
Of
it,
I'd
also
open
up.
Does
any
other
members
of
the
committee
have
questions
for
the
applicant.
I
Mr
chair,
yes,
I
just
wanted
to-
I
guess-
touch
on
the
maintenance
aspect
of
the
plant
material
on
the
on
the
parking
garage
and
the
exterior
portions,
of
the
building,
understanding
that
it's
condoed
and
that
it
will
go.
You
know,
have
some
master
ccnr's
and
then
some
other
ccnrs
for
each
individual
user
is
that?
Are
you
guys
going
to
establish
who.
W
I
Be
taking
care
of
if
the
in
the
master
agreement
is
there
a
an
entity
that
will
be
charged
with
the
maintenance
of
this
plant
material?
Can
that
be
inserted
so
that
there
is
some
language
protecting
this
long
term,
because
you
know
ultimately
the
design
is
very
dynamic,
but
if
it
is
not
maintained,
then
it
it
could
suffer
substantially.
U
Mr
chairman
committee
members,
yes
I
mean
when
we
come
back
with
the
condominium
plat
and
the
condominium
declaration,
boise
city,
legal
staff,
reviews
that
for
compliance
with
the
condition
of
approval-
and
if
you
want
us
to
include
a
a
condition,
we
would
be
amenable
to
that
tonight
that
it
be
included
and
incorporated
in
the
master
project
declaration.
U
As
for
who
maintains
under
idaho
law,
if
you
have
a
condominium,
you
have
to
have
a
corporation
that
is
perpetual
that
is
tasked
with
maintaining
the
the
common
areas
and
with
a
condominium,
as
you
know,
anything
that's
exterior
is
is
common
area
unless
it's
designated
as
limited
common
area.
So
you
know
it's
something
that
we
have
worked
through
on
all
of
the
complex
condominiums
that
we
have
developed
in
downtown,
whether
it's
8th
and
main
or
whether
it's
city
center.
There
are
those
external
elements
that
have
to
be
maintained,
including
landscaping.
U
I
Mr
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
clarification
on
record
just
so
that
we
had
that
information.
I
don't
you
know,
that's
a
typical
operating
procedure
when
it
comes
to
condos
I
just
want.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
make
it
a
condition.
Necessarily.
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
clarification
on
record.
Thank
you.
I
Mr
chair,
I
did
have
one
more
clarification
on
the
east
side
of
the
east
side
elevation.
It
looked
like
there
was
units
residential
units
that
wrapped
that
side
that
somewhat
screened
the
parking
garage
over
there.
Can
you
clarify
that
as
well?
Just
so,
there's
a
little
bit
more
information
on
what
and
I
think
it's
it's
more
has
to
do
with
the.
I
guess.
It's
probably
the
the
bank
tower
itself
that
parking
area
and
not
necessarily
the
residential.
N
Yes,
so
so
this
portion
of
it
is
actually
enclosed
space,
not
parking
garage,
but
there
are
four
levels
of
exposed:
private
parking
for
for
the
garage
here,
the
perforated
metal
mesh.
It's
a
mcnichols,
perforated
metal
mesh.
It's
made
to
kind
of
mimic
the
glass
as
it
carries
down
the
building,
and
that
was
that's
proposed
in
this
in
this
location.
I
believe
the
previous
the
presentation
butler
was
going
through
before
we
got
into
the
model,
had
an
image
of
of
that
type
of
material.
N
Yeah
and
the
intent
there,
the
intent
there
is
that
the
the
building
feels
like
it
carries
as
a
continuous
mass
from
from
the
upper
office
levels
down
through
the
garage
and
and
that
isn't
just
open,
but
we
still
need
to
maintain
ventilation
through
that
garage,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
page
butler
in
the
bottom
right
corner,
there's
an
image
of
that
mesh
material,
perforated
metal,
it's
not
a
chain
link!
It's
not
a
wire
mesh.
I
D
D
So
I
I
do.
I
want
to
appreciate
the
the
applicant
of
bringing
the
materials
bringing
the
model,
some
miscellaneous
views
to
help
us
really
understand
the
masking,
as
well
as
staff
and
mr
wardle
also
describing
some
of
the
history.
That's
already
occurred,
yeah
overall,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
well-thought-out
portions
of
this
building
that
have
been
taking
consideration
of
there
are
a
few
things.
I
think
that,
as
the
public
has
brought
up
are
a
little
short
on
detail
that
I
think
personally,
I
think
would
like
to
have.
D
The
apple
can
bring
back
either
in
a
work
session
and
share
share
a
couple
of
things,
one,
the
the
p-tax,
as
was
described
earlier,
and
any
kind.
G
H
G
D
D
You
know
other
questions
or
comments
from
the
city.
You
know
the
building
architectural
type
is
certainly
has
people
have
their
opinions,
it's
not
necessarily
a
historic
to
kind
of
blend
with
the
neighborhood,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
other
more
modern
and
non-historic
buildings
in
this
neighborhood,
where
we
are
this
interesting
transition
on
a
corridor
between
basically
st
luke's
and
downtown.
D
I
personally,
like
the
contemporary
style,
that's
being
proposed
and
I
think
the
applicant's
gonna
good
job
of
concealing
the
garage,
if
you
looked
at
any
of
the
elevations
compared
to
a
standard
garage,
be
it
saint
luke's,
just
down
the
street,
it's
broken
up
with
the
massing.
It's
some
of
the
massive
and
architectural
language
from
the
tower
above
continues
down
through
the
building
itself
to
the
garage.
D
You
know,
there's
multiple
types
of
screening
for
the
garage,
the
panels
themselves
being
blocking
the
light
from
the
headlight
standpoint,
the
drop
panels
from
above
helping
to
screen
some
of
the
lighting
from
the
interior
area
lighting.
I
think
those
are
all
good
treatments
as
well,
so
I
believe
that
they've
done
a
pretty
darn
good
job.
On
that.
I
would
like
to
see
some
additional
detail
on
the
you
know:
the
aluminum
shaving
devices,
the
perforated
panels
and
the
size
of
the
perforation
and
the
metal
types,
and
such
those
are
kind
of
my
comments
on
it.
D
D
J
Mr
chairman,
I
would
I
would
agree
with
the
majority
of
comments
that
you've
made
here.
J
I
think
the
the
applicant
and
the
design
team
have
done
a
credible
job
of
developing
a
design
concept,
but,
as
we've
heard
here
tonight,
there's
a
lot
of
details
that
remain
to
be
done
and
the
devil
is
in
the
details.
J
They
all
suffer
from
the
hard
bidding
process
when
things
have
to
change
and
things
begin
to
value,
engineer
and
things
change,
materials,
change,
details,
change
just
to
get
it
to
fall
within
some
overall
budget.
F
G
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Yes
yeah,
I
I
guess
I'm
just
going
to
echo
some
stuff
committee
member
aguilar
kind
of
touched
on
the
one
that
I
think
we
need
to
modify.
That's
you
know
the
site-specific
condition
1b
to
incorporate
at
least
one
evergreen
plant
material
into
that
screen
on
the
north
side.
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
vitally
important
for
that
to
maintain
the
look
that
the
developer
is
trying
for,
and
that
will
help
the
neighborhood.
I
I
So
you
know
I
have
no
doubt
that
that
will
occur.
I
also
concur
with
the
the
addition
of
a
condition
that
the
applicant
returned
to
us
at
the
end
of
design
development
phase
with
additional
detailing
and
physical
samples
of
the
materials
that
they
intend
to
use.
I
That's
we've
seen
it
happen
before,
where
we're
shown
one
thing,
whether
it
be
virtually
or
in
person.
Even
that
then
has
changed
through
the
value
engineering
process,
which
is
a
killer
of
design.
In
my
opinion,
if
they
are
committing
to
the
quality
of
the
design,
then
I
think
that
needs
to
remain
throughout
from
now.
Until
the
end,
I
did
want
to
point
out.
We
do
have
a
condition
in
here.
I
know
one
of
the
members
of
public
brought
up.
I
1D
is
comply
with
achd
requirements
and
that
if
there
are
changes
due
to
that
coordination
with
achd
that
they
return
to
the
committee
with
a
revised
design,
so
I
think
that
protects
a
little
bit
on.
If
achd
changes
the
conditions
there,
I'm
not
sure
how
they'll
react
to
the
excavation
or
the
lowering
of
the
alley.
I
I
think
we
need
to
see
that
staff
report
again
kind
of
a
detail
that
we
need
to
maybe
that
work
session
and
that
achd
coordination
can
occur
or
our
work
session
could
occur
after
the
achd
coordination
to
make
sure
we're
catching
that
as
well.
I
So
yeah,
those
are
my
comments.
I
do
appreciate
everyone
from
the
neighborhood
coming
in
and
giving
their
opinions
on
this.
It's
a
very
impactful
building
in
a
very
nice
part
of
town
that
again
will
continue
to
grow
and
develop
in
a
way
that
is
going
to
be
more
contemporary,
but
anything
we
can
do
as
a
committee
to
help
mitigate
those
and
work
with
these.
The
developers,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
positive,
ultimately
for
the
long-term
health
of
our
downtown.
D
B
Mr
chairman,
if
I
could
real
quick
just
to
the
maker
of
the
motion,
just
in
response
to
committee
members
zabala
and
mr
sherman's
comments
about
coming
back
for
a
work
session,
just
some
specificity
about
when
that
would
be
would
be
great.
You
know
whether
that's
at
50
dds,
you
know
at
what
phase
you
would
like
to
see
that
just
so,
we
can
provide
some
very
detailed
direction.
J
J
D
Material
samples
details-
I
think
manufacturers
wouldn't
listed-
would
be
good
as
well.
Some
of
those
concerns
there's
having
some
physical
models.
The
perforation
size
on
the
metal
panels
finishes
on
the
gfrc
and
then
any
missing
materials
out
of
this
presentation
to
be
identified
and
samples
be
provided
on
that
side.
D
Then
I
think
the
other
motion,
or
the
other
suggestion,
was
to
add
evergreen
to
be
mixed
in
with
the
virginia
creeper
to
give
some
year-round
screening
to
it.
D
D
J
J
J
J
Okay,
well,
I'm
not
sure
this
list
will
be
complete,
but,
as
I
go
along,
please
feel
free
to
jump.
In
and
mr
chairman,
I
would
move
for
approval
of.
J
C
J
Another
evergreen
type
material,
in
addition
to
the
virginia
creeper
that
right
yeah
and
the
addition
of
item
one
a
I,
which
would
be
the
applicant-
shall
meet
with
the
design
review
committee
in
a
work
session
at
the
completion
of
the
design
development
documents
or
approximately
44
40
to
50
percent,
completed
the
documents
to
review
and
confirm
the
materials
in
terms
of
providing
samples
showing
more
detail
on
the
finishes.
J
Exterior
lighting
with
regard
to
proposed
photovoltaics,
I
also
noticed
in
the
in
the
information
provided
by
the
applicant
that
they
were
working
on
a
master
signage
plan
for
the
building.
I
would
like
to
see
what
their
their
information
is
at
that
particular
time
on
the
proposed
signage
for
the
illumination
vet
signage
for
the
building.
J
I
D
Do
you
have
a
second
second
and
seconded
okay?
Any
discussion
on
the
motion.
Thank
you,
mr
simple,
for
adding
the
modification
of
item
number
ten.
I
think
that
sounds
reasonable.
Remember,
zabala!
J
D
All
right,
thank
you.
Last
item
for
to
be
merchandised
item
number
nine.
It's
four
drh21-00146!
The
location
is
2007
south
saturn
wayne,
it's
for
a
new
self
service
storage
facility
with
12
buildings,
and
at
this
time
I
would
turn
it
over
to
caitlin.
D
I
believe
there
was
comments
from
the
public
concerning
some
landscape.
O
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Yes,
just
quickly,
so
this
parcel
is
located
with
a
mix
of
uses
around
it,
including
a
residential
neighborhood
to
the
west.
O
And
they
are
proposing
their
required
street
trees
along
ash
park
lane
so
they'll
be
providing
their
one
tree
for
every
40
feet
of
frontage
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
they
do
have
a
number
of
other
grasses
and
shrubs,
including
some
juniper
and
some
of
those
areas
where
the
building
is
not
adjacent
to
the
property
line
there.
So
we
have
building
10
along
ash
park
lane,
so
this
is
building
10.
O
So
here's
a
rendering-
I
don't
know
if
it
shows
all
the
trees
that'll
be
in
here.
Yet
this
is
kind
of
what
that
will
look
like
along
the
west
there
and
we
do
have
the
applicant
present
as
well
in
person.
D
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
Caitlin
yeah
the
applicant
like
to
make
any
comments,
and
this
applicant
in
person
there
or
online.
Please
raise
your
hand
if
you're
online,
virtually.
D
Thank
you,
please,
to
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Yes,.
AA
Of
course,
jackson,
bidwell,
725,
east,
2nd
street
meridian,
idaho,
also
accompanied
by
jeremy
putman,
the
stamping
architect
for
the
project.
D
Okay,
thank
you
I
I
would
take
it.
What
she
has
up
is
an
accurate
representation
of
kind
of
what
the
street
landscaping
is
on.
As
shown
on
the
screen
is.
D
Anything
else
we'll
just
open
it
up
to
the
public
now
and
see
if,
with
some
of
the
other
comments,
are
so
thank
you
very
much.
I
believe
the
comment
patiently
waiting
has
been
denise
miller,
so
denise
feel
free
to
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
If
you
would.
M
Hi
denise
miller
5689
north
eddie
boise,
83714
yeah.
I
just
my
mom
lives
on
ash
parquez
for
50
years,
and
so
I
was
just
calling
for
her.
I'm
not
seeing
any
fencing
behind
there
is
that
just
the
building
right
on
the
is
the
building
the
fencing
or
is
there
fencing
there.
D
A
M
Yeah,
I
guess
my
other
comment
was
for
like
lighting,
what's
the
lighting
back
there,
because
that
is
all
residential
along
there.
If
there's
some
buffering
for
the
lighting
there.
M
Okay
and
this-
I
guess
on
the
north
side,
where
there
is
there's
a
large
area
with
no
building,
I'm
not,
I
don't
know
what
the
there's
a
diagram
towards
the
back.
That
doesn't
look
like
a
tree,
it's
more
of
a
square,
I'm
not
sure.
What
is
that.
D
M
D
Wishing
to
testify
tonight,
either
in
person
or
virtually
who
would
virtually
please
to
digitally,
raise
your
hand.
D
AA
Yes,
yeah,
so
I
guess
just
addressing
a
few
of
denise's
comments.
AA
So,
along
the
west
there
there
is
fencing
or
proposed
fencing
between
some
of
the
building
gaps
and
landscaping
will
help
kind
of
soften
that
fencing
as
well
or
you
know
for
any
potential
direct
site
of
that
fencing
or
of
just
the
fencing
itself.
AA
There
will
be
also
adequate
landscaping
incorporated,
along
with
that
that
spot
in
question
to
the
I
guess,
northwest
portion
of
the
site,
that
is
a
trash
enclosure
that
is
also
again
incorporated
with
the
proposed
landscaping
surrounding
it
again
to
kind
of
help,
soften
the
impact
of
that
on-site
or
visibility
on-site
and
then
for
lighting
of
the
site,
propose
or
are
going
to
propose
interior
lighting
of
the
internal
circulation
with
wall
pack.
AA
D
Great,
thank
you.
Is
there
any
questions
of
the
applicant
from
the
community.
J
Mr
chairman,
yes,
with
regard
to
the
the
lighting
that
you
just
mentioned,
the
wall
packs,
I
assume
that's
on
the
interior
of
the
project
on
the
portion
of
the
project
on
the
west
side.
Abutting,
the
residential
area.
Will
there
be
any
lighting
along
that
street
side
on
the
back
side
of
that
building
at
all,
or
will
that
just
be
the
back
of
the
buildings
there.
AA
I
guess
pretty
sure
we
had
not
proposed
lighting
along
that
back
side
of
the
building,
but
rather
that
it
would
all
be
along
the
internal
circulation
and
facing
down
into
the
interior.
Okay,.
I
Chairman,
yes,
just
one
quick
question:
the
fencing:
are
you
guys
proposing
like
a
solid
privacy
fence
there?
Do
you
know
between
the
buildings
there?
Do
you
know
what
style
of
fencing
was
being
proposed.
AA
I
believe
we've
been
proposing
a
more
like
clear
vision,
iron
fence
or
black
wrap
iron,
roughly
six
foot
tall
and
again
with
the
the
landscaping
incorporated
in
front
of
it.
It
kind
of
helps
with
that
visual.
D
I
Mr
chairman,
yes
yeah,
I
mean
looking
at
the
you
know,
having
reviewed
this
prior
to
the
hearing.
You
know
I
was
comfortable
with
this
design
before
and
to
to
give
a
little
bit
of,
I
guess
more
information
to
the
neighbor.
There
there's
a
lot
of
landscaping
they
have
proposed
along
here.
I
One
of
the
conditions
of
the
approval
in
their
staff
report
is
that
all
lighting
is
100
cut
off,
so
there
won't
be
any
bleed
out
into
the
street
or
into
that
residential
neighborhood
looks
like
they've
got
some
sidewalk
along
there.
That
could
help
improve
the
pedestrian
experience
along
that
street
as
well
so
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
point
out
that
there
are
a
couple
things
in
there
that
that
I
think
are
going
to
mitigate
the
concerns
of
the
of
denise
or
her
mother
that
lives
over
there
too.
D
Great.
Thank
you,
mr
simple,
with
this
certainly
entertain
a
motion.
D
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
That
concludes
our
items
to
be
on
our
agenda
tonight
and
with
that
we
are
george.
Thank
you
for
everybody
for
attending
tonight.