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B
Moser
I
am
the
communications
manager
for
planning
and
development
services,
and
we
are
here
tonight
to
talk
about
module
three
of
the
zoning
code
rewrite
so
just
as
a
quick
recap.
We
kicked
this
project
off
back
in
Fall
of
2020.
We've
broken
this
up
into
three
modules.
Having
some
pretty
extended
community
outreach
within
each
of
those
modules,
we're
currently
in
the
middle
of
module.
B
Three,
we
are
completed
four
out
of
the
five
events
we
have
one
more
community
outreach
next
week
and
then
the
players
to
move
through
the
public
hearing
process
and
for
them
to
submit
in
February
just
a
quick
recap
of
some
of
the
things
and
goals
that
we've
been
working
towards
after
we
went
back
this
summer
to
the
community.
These
are
kind
of
our
guiding
goals
that
we're
working
through.
We
know
that
we
have
a
variety
of
great
neighborhoods.
We
wanted
direct
development
where
there's
planned
public
investment.
C
So
because
we
heard
that
time
and
time
again,
we
really
created
kind
of
what
our
mission
was
going
to
be.
As
we
created
this
module
three-year
development
process,
and
we
really
felt
that
it
was
key
that
we
are
reinforcing
our
City's
visions
and
goals
involving
our
community
and
our
partners
very
early
to
ensure
that
those
concepts
are
really
contributing
to
our
long-term
goals
and
viability
as
a
city
and
then,
of
course,
making
sure
that
we
are
resulting
in
great
projects.
C
And
so
this
is
kind
of
a
summary
of
what
module
3
is
going
to
present
to
you.
If
you've
not
had
an
opportunity
to
read
it,
we
have
created
application
typologies,
and
so
there
are
four
specific
types
and
we'll
go
into
a
little
bit
about
what
those
typologies
are
and
what
their
Avenues
are
for.
Appeal.
We've
also
created
a
little
bit
different
type
of
review,
in
which
we
have
a
new
application
type
as
well.
C
We
have
also
proposed
that
we
establish
an
interdepartmental
review
process.
Ultimately,
what
that
does
is
it
creates
a
group
where
we
all
can
get
together
very
early
on
so
whether
we're
internal
Partners
within
the
city,
so
Public
Works,
fire,
police,
Parks
and
Recreation
planning
that
we
can
all
be
around
the
table.
C
But
we
can
also
invite
all
of
our
external
agencies
and
partners
as
well,
so
thinking
about
achd
itd,
irrigation
companies
CCDC
all
of
them,
so
that
we
can
coordinate
our
efforts
and
make
sure
that
we're
all
headed
toward
the
Finish
Line,
rather
than
kind
of
diverting
away
from
what
our
long-term
goals
are.
We've
also
proposed
to
reintroduce
our
hearings
examiner.
Our
current
code
allows
us
to
do
that.
C
However,
we
haven't
utilized
that
for
quite
some
years
because
of
the
large
amounts
of
quantity,
that
of
applications
that
we
do
receive
and
the
consistency
that
a
hearings
examiner
can
provide.
We
will
be
proposing
that
we
bring
that
back
as
well.
Here's
some
good
news
for
you.
We
have
proposed
to
reclassify
you
guys
as
a
committee
to
a
commission,
and
so
that
would
ultimately
allow
us
to
eliminate
one
step
in
the
appeal
process.
C
So
any
decision
that
you
would
render
would
then
go
directly
to
the
city
council,
and
so
it
would
not
have
to
go
to
planning
and
zoning,
and
then
city
council
along
the
appeal
pathway.
So
there
is
an
efficiency
that's
built
in
there,
but
it
also
places
the
areas
of
expertise
and
decisions
with
the
right
Partners.
So
you
having
the
expertise
in
architectural
design,
would
be
focusing
on
design
related
Concepts,
whereas
Planning
and
Zoning
would
focus
more
on
land
use
decisions.
C
Of
course,
those
decisions
could
then
be
appealed
to
the
city
council
and
we'll
kind
of
walk
you
through
some
of
that.
As
well
as
we
move
forward,
and
then
lastly,
we
have
updated
some
of
our
required
development
findings
as
well,
and
so
we'll
give
you
an
example,
but
really
making
sure
that
we
are
resulting
in
the
projects
that
we're
looking
for
and
you'll
see
that
in
some
of
those
applications.
C
So
when
we
move
forward
and
talk
about
the
typologies
of
applications,
we
have
identified
simple
administrative
review,
appointed
body
review
as
well
as
city
council,
and
when
we
take
a
look
at
what
those
look
like
the
typology
is
at
the
very
top
in
that
gray.
Ribbon
you'll
also
see
that
you
have
an
appeal
body,
and
so
that
really
talks
about
who
would
review
any
appeal
that
would
be
made
by
that
decision,
and
then
we've
got
some
examples
of
some
of
our
project.
The
simple
reviews
are
simply
examples
where
you
either
meet
it
or
you
don't.
C
So
we
could
turn
that
around
rather
quickly
so
thinking
at
two
or
three
days,
administrative
reviews.
They
do
require
a
little
bit
more
time.
So
thinking
along
the
lines
of
one
to
two
weeks,
they
might
have
you
specific
standards.
We
may
need
to
coordinate
deed
restrictions
or
those
types
of
things,
and
so
we
have
allowed
that.
We've
also
identified
a
few
items
which
you're
going
to
see
in
the
asterisk
that
talk
about
the
opportunity
for
an
interdepartmental
review.
C
So
if
we
do
decide
that
some
more
intimate
or
specific
inner
coordination
should
be
required,
amongst
departments
or
outside
agencies,
we
have
the
ability
to
require
an
interdepartmental
review
before
an
application
is
submitted,
and
then
our
type
3
is
really
that
appointed
body.
That
would
be
a
process
that
you're
familiar
with.
C
As
you
see
today,
you
will
see
a
little
bit
different
turn
of
events
when
we
propose
some
of
our
process
changes
that
we'll
go
through
with
you
as
well,
but
we've
identified
really
the
hearings
examiner,
they
would
review
variance
applications
and
they
would
also
review
any
appeals
of
that
type.
2
application,
Planning
and
Zoning
would
really
be
those
use
related
items,
so
anything
from
a
non-conforming
use,
a
conditional
use
permit
or
some
of
our
technical
Hillside
and
river
system
permits
would
be
reviewed
there.
C
You
would,
of
course,
have
any
of
those
major
design
review
applications
that
you
currently
see.
As
well
as
those
major
lot
small
lot
subdivisions
as
well,
so
thinking
about
small
Lots
containing
five
units
or
more
and
then
historic
preservation
would
hold
on
to
those
historic
certificates
of
appropriateness.
In
that
historic
nature,
those
type
4
applications
really
are
determined
by
the
local
land
use
planning
act
which
identify
that
the
council
has
to
be
a
decision
maker,
but
they
would
be
making
those
policy
related
decisions.
C
So
really,
when
we
look
at
those
review
bodies,
just
taking
a
look
at
the
types
of
review
that
they
would
do
and
the
application
types
it
just
gives
you
a
brief
examination.
Anything
that's
bold
is
something
that's
new,
so
that
interdepartmental
or
agency
Review
Committee.
That
is
a
new
proposal
that
hearings
examiner,
bringing
that
back
and
so
we'll
see
that
as
part
of
our
process
and
then,
of
course,
the
elevation
from
a
committee
for
this
particular
group
to
the
design
review,
Commission.
C
As
I
noted
before,
really
what
that
interdepartmental
review
is,
is
just
the
opportunity
for
us
to
get
together
early
on
before
an
application
is
submitted
rather
than
after.
That
allows
us
to
really
think
things
through
make
sure
that
we're
aligning
our
goals
and
policies
together
with
one
another
rather
than
saying
he
said,
or
she
said,
or
everybody
is
around
the
table
and
we're
able
to
communicate
together.
D
Hello
committee
members,
I'm
Deanna,
Dupuis
and
I'm
going
to
be
walking
us
through
ways
that
we've
used
our
process
and
procedures
to
help
reinforce
our
City's
vision
and
goals
and
specifically,
there's
a
new
application
type
which
we're
calling
our
allowed
use
and
allowed
form
or
alternative
form.
So
in
modules,
one
and
two
we've
taken
a
look
at
our
table
of
allowed
uses
and
have
expanded
where
we
believe
certain
uses
are
allowed
across
the
city.
D
However,
sometimes
how
a
building
is
built
is
just
as
important
as
what
is
being
built,
so
we
wanted
to
create
a
a
process
that
helps
us
get
actually
what
we
want
and
that
we're
building
to
the
style
or
building
to
really
help
us
meet
those
goals.
Specifically,
we've
established
four
mixed-use
zones
that
we
care
very
much
about
how
we're
building
buildings
in
these
areas.
These
are
the
areas
that,
when
we
talk
to
our
community,
they
really
want
us
to
direct
the
most
intense
development
there.
D
So
we
want
to
have
our
process
reinforce
that
these
are
our
mixed-use
neighborhood
zones,
our
MX3,
which
is
mixed,
use
active
that's
along
State,
Street,
Fairview
and
Vista.
That's
where
we
really
want
to
see
growth,
that's
going
to
support
active
Transportation,
our
mx4,
which
is
our
mixed-use
Tod.
Those
are
only
that's
areas
only
on
four
different
nodes
along
State
Street,
but
the
goal
there
is
to
help
support,
Transit
oriented
development
and
then,
of
course,
our
downtown
making
sure
that
we're
supporting
that
investment
and
infrastructure
that's
been
occurring
within
our
downtown
area.
D
So
you'll
see
in
this
table
those
uses
that
are
listed
out.
We
care
how
those
buildings
are
going
to
get
built
and
we're
going
to
create
a
process
to
get
that
type
of
development.
We
want
so
this
I'm
going
to
walk
us
through
an
example,
because
we've
found
that
this
is
the
easiest
way
to
explain
this
new
type
of
process.
But
we
have
allowed
now
multi-family
as
an
allowed
use
in
our
MX3,
which
is
the
mixed
use
active.
D
We
know
there's
different
ways
to
build
multi-family
and
that
if
we're
on
State,
Street,
Vista
or
Fairview
we're
investing
as
a
city
in
the
infrastructure
there,
both
in
terms
of
Transit
bike
and
pedestrian
streetscape.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
putting
the
right
amount
of
people
there
we've
expanded
the
height
limit
in
States
or
in
the
MX3.
D
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
a
building
or
a
developer
is
proposing
at
least
up
to
what
we've
wanted,
so
that
we're
getting
that
density
there,
because
we're
wanting
to
direct
our
most
intense
development
there.
So
you'll
see
it,
the
apartment
isn't
allowed
use
and
then
our
lab
form
is
anything,
that's
four
or
more
stories.
And
if
that
developer
is
going
to
propose
four
or
more
stories,
they
become
a
type
2
application,
which
is
Staff
level
review.
D
It
will
require
interdepartmental
review
because
we
know
multi-family
is
a
large
project
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
coordinating
with
all
of
the
other
agencies
such
as
solid
waste
achd.
So
we're
not
going
to
review
it
quickly,
just
because
it's
an
allowed
form,
but
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
it's
staff
level,
because
we've
already
established
the
fact
that
we
want
this
type
of
use
within
our
area
within
our
city.
It
contributes
to
those
city-wide
goals.
D
If
a
developer
comes
in
and
says
I'm
going
to
propose
an
allowed
use
of
multi-family,
however,
it's
going
to
be
three
or
fewer
stories.
It's
going
to
be
more
of
that
Suburban
form.
That's
not
going
to
help
us
build
out
that
vision
of
State,
Street,
visitor
Fairview
and
we're
going
to
make
that
of
a
Type
3
application,
meaning
that
it's
going
to
have
to
go
to
public
hearing
and
it's
a
land
use
decision
at
this
point.
Is
this
the
best
use
of
our
land
within
our
city?
Is
this
contributing
to
Citywide
goals?
D
This
is
a
really
subtle
difference,
but
what
we've
done
is
we've
looked
at
our
findings
of
approval,
which
I'm
sure,
as
committee
members
you're
familiar
with,
and
this
one
actually
is
an
example
from
the
design
review,
findings
for
approval
and
what
we're
doing
is
actually
a
really
subtle
shift,
but
hopefully
an
important
one
of
instead
of
looking
at
a
project
and
saying:
oh,
is
a
traffic
impact
minimized?
D
That
is
that
really
what
we're
wanting
right
just
to
minimize
traffic
or
do
we
want
to
design
a
building
that
provides
a
safe,
a
convenient
and
efficient
Network
that
really
supports
active
Transportation?
So
it's
subtle,
but
it's
a
say
it's
instead
of
just
looking
at
it
from
one
lens,
we're
kind
of
saying
what
do
we
exactly
want
on
our
property
and
in
these
developments
and
then
I'm
going
to
have
Leah
she's
going
to
walk
through
then
all
of
these
different
changes?
E
Thanks
Deanna
good
evening
committee
members,
Lena
Walker
and
yes,
just
to
kind
of
recap:
okay,
there's
a
screen
here:
I
can't
read
that's
much
easier,
just
to
recap,
quickly
kind
of
what
Deanna
and
Andrea
had
gone
through,
so
those
are
kind
of
the
building
blocks
of
how
we've
addressed
our
processes
and
procedures.
And
then
what
would
this
actually
look
like
in
terms
of
an
application
coming
through
from
start
to
finish,
so,
you
can
see
here
on
the
slide.
E
We
have
our
current
process
for
our
staff
level
reviews
and
then
the
proposed
process,
the
number
of
steps
it
looks
pretty
similar
there.
One
of
the
key
changes
that
we're
highlighting
is
that,
currently,
when
we
have
an
application,
come
in
it's
it's
highly
variable
the
degree
to
which
that
concept
might
be
fleshed
out
that
we're
looking
at
as
a
preliminary
sort
of
Staff
review
in
a
pre-application
meeting.
E
What
would
change
here
so
for
application
type
2,
for
example,
if
somebody
were
coming
in
to
build
a
duplex,
that's
an
allowed
use
and
it
would
be
administratively
approved
they
would
come
in
for
concept
review
meeting.
We
would
want
to
see
that,
hopefully
a
little
earlier
in
the
process
of
okay.
What
are
you
thinking?
You
know?
E
What's
the
general
layout
and
density
that
you
want,
and
then
staff
would
have
an
opportunity
to
give
some
guidance
to
that
applicant
of
where
to
look
in
code,
things
that
need
to
be
potentially
corrected
in
that
concept
and
then,
when
that
application
comes
in,
it's
submitted
at
a
hundred
percent
and
staff
write
their
report
and
that
decision
is
made
administratively
with
a
potential
appeal
to
the
hearing.
Examiner
underneath
there's
also
with
the
allowed
use,
allowed
form
or
a
couple
different
application
types
that
are
administratively
approved.
E
However,
they
may
be
something
that
would
require
that
interdepartmental
review.
So
there
is
that
additional
step
that
may
apply
to
an
administrative
application
where
we
would
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
make
sure
that
we
have
achd
Public
Works
fire,
all
of
those
people
at
the
table
really
examining
that
application
before
it's
submitted
and
before
it
goes
into
the
staff
report
and
then
looking
at
hearing
level.
So
this
is,
for
example,
like
a
type
3
application,
so
this
could
be
a
major
design
review
application
again
existing
process.
E
You
have
that
sort
of
zero
to
a
hundred
percent
concept
that
the
pre-application
meeting
so
below.
You
can
see
that
it's
been
broken
out
into
a
couple
different
steps,
and
what
we
have
here
is
the
neighborhood
meeting
is
really
happening
quite
a
bit
before
that
application
is
submitted.
So
you
have
a
concept
review
meeting,
which
would
then
be
followed
after
some
preliminary
staff
feedback
by
The
Neighborhood
meeting
once
that
meeting
has
been
held,
there's
another
brief
check-in
with
staff,
where
we
can
kind
of
suss
out
with
the
applicant.
What
did
you
hear
at
that
meeting?
E
If
you
want.
Okay
sure
so,
finally,
we're
working
through
our
community
outreach
right
now
for
module
three
in
the
Consolidated
draft.
We
do
have
two
more
community
outreach
meetings
left
on
November,
16th
and
17th
that'll,
be
at
the
Ada
County
library
and
then
also
there
will
be
a
neighborhood
association
leadership
meeting
on
November
17th.
So
again,
there's
a
link
there
to
the
Community
Development
tracker.
We
do
have
that
live
for
current
application
data
and
we
are
accepting
feedback
on
that.
E
F
Chair
I
have
I,
have
several
first
of
all,
I
again
want
to
express
how
much
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
guys
have
done.
This
is
a
Monumental
task
and
I
think
that
you
are
doing
a
great
job,
pushing
towards
having
a
system
in
place
that
will
create
a
better
City
for
us
and
so
I
applaud
you
on
that
and
all
of
the
work
that's
gone
into
that.
F
That
said,
there
are
a
couple
of
points
that
either
I
don't
fully
comprehend
and
that's
where
my
apprehension
comes
in
or
I
think
maybe
I
just
I
met
odds
with
that.
The
certain
points
I'll
start
with
the
MX3
type,
2
classification
for
a
four-story
or
taller
multi-family
building,
and
that
can
that
worries
me
a
little
bit
because
and
I'll
just
take,
for
example,
the
project
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
here
later
tonight.
F
Under
that
classification,
the
project
in
question
would
be
a
staff
level
review
and
over
the
last
several
months,
this
project
has
come
to
us
several
times
and
it's
been
approved
by
staff
because
it
meets
all
of
the
requirements
in
our
city
design
guidelines.
But
it's
it
needs
a
lot
of
work
still
and
I.
F
Don't
know
that
City
staff
is
necessarily
empowered
to
say
this
project
can't
go
forward
because
it
lacks
design
design
credibility,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
something
that
I
think
our
Collective
role
has
has
proven
to
be
very
important
from
the
standpoint
of
this
is
a
it's
a
big
building,
four
stories
and
taller.
F
That's
that's
going
to
have
a
significant
impact
on
any
streetscape
and
several
Street
escapes
around
it,
and
not
to
say
that
the
entire
staff
of
the
city
is
not
capable
of
putting
the
kibosh
on
a
substandard
building,
but
I
just
don't
know
that
it
was,
would
be
within
your
purview
if
it
checked
all
the
other
boxes,
and
so
how
would?
How
would
we
go
about
doing
our
job
of
ensuring
design
quality?
If
now
there
are
these
large
buildings
that
would
never
get
past
a
was
that
hearing,
Examiner
sure.
E
So
Committee
Member
or
said
other
staff
might
have
responses
as
well,
but
I
think
I
can
address
one
of
the
core
pieces
of
your
question,
which
is
that
so
there's
a
difference
between
the
application
type
for
the
use
and
then
the
application
type
for
design
review
and
so,
for
example,
in
a
loud
use,
allowed
form
if
there
were
an
apartment
building
multi-family
in
the
MX3
Zone.
That
would
be
an
allowed
use,
so
the
use
would
be
approved
administratively.
E
E
F
Okay,
that's
major
clarification.
I
appreciate
that
the
other
question
that
I
had
is
kind
of
a
follow-up
is
not
so
much
follow-up,
but
the
this
process
by
adding
extra
steps.
I
I
appreciate
the
idea
that
we
can
get
out
in
front
of
some
of
the
like
the
various
jurisdictional
hurdles
to
clear.
But
if
that
stuff
is
happening
at
like
a
50
design
phase,
you
know
that's
we're
only
halfway.
There
there's
a
lot
that
can
change
again.
So
is
this:
are
we
worried
about
turning
this
process
from
one
that
takes
us?
F
I,
don't
know
six
months
in
a
good
year
into
the
one
that
takes
it
9
to
12
before
you
even
go
in
for
your
building
permit
application,
and
then
all
these
agencies
have
to
review
the
stuff
again
and
now
it
looks
different
because
you
know
they
saw
it
at
50
percent,
and
now
it's
100,
I
I,
just
I.
Think
My
worry
is.
F
This
is
creating
a
lot
of
extra,
not
extra
work,
but
it's
it's
creating
a
lot
of
work
that
it's
going
to
require
hours
from
people
to
to
do
and
I,
don't
know
that
it's
necessarily
going
to
change
the
final
product,
or
do
we
have
case
studies
of
other
cities
that
do
a
process
like
this?
Do
they
go
faster?
Do
they
go
slower?
Do
they
have
similar
staff
levels?
Do
they
have
you
know?
E
Sure
Committee
Member
said
so
try
to
answer
all
of
your
questions
and
again,
if
other
staff
want
to
jump
in
feel
free
to
as
well.
E
That's
a
good
question,
and
it's
one
that
we
certainly
heard
a
lot
in
our
Outreach
of
when
you
kind
of
look
at
these
flow
charts
of
like
wow.
Why
are
you
adding
so
many
more
steps?
I
thought
we
were
trying
to
make
this
more
efficient,
I
think
one.
Our
response
that
we
have
typically
had
to
that
is
that,
as
staff
has
worked
through
this
module
in
trying
to
really
rethink
our
process
in
a
way
that
can
get
us
to
better
projects
and
get
us
to
a
more
efficient
flow
of
the
work.
E
Any
of
those
steps
that
you're
seeing
outlined
in
that
new
process,
perhaps
with
the
exception
of
the
way
that
it's
formatted,
like
the
interdepartmental
review,
none
of
the
substance
of
those
steps
is
anything
different
than
what
we're
doing
today.
The
difference
really
today
is
that
we
do
not
have
a
framework
for
how
that
work
is
done,
and
we
don't
have
a
code
that
can
really
clearly
outline
that
for
applicants
and
can
really
reinforce
that.
These
are
the
steps
that
you
need
to
follow.
E
You
need
to
submit
a
complete
application
that
has
been
properly
vetted
as
opposed
to
rushing
to
an
application,
and
then
it's
really,
you
know
beholden
staff
are
beholden
to
really
figure
out
how
to
make
all
of
that
communication
work
and
that
I.
You
could
make
the
argument
that
that's
a
little
bit
more
of
Reinventing
the
wheel
every
single
time
an
application
comes
in
rather
than
having
a
consistent
framework.
Regarding
some
of
these
processes,
we
have
done
research
as
a
department
and
reached
out
to
other
planning
departments
around
the
US
that
have
an
interdepartmental
review.
E
Excuse
me
are
what
sometimes
called
a
concept:
Review
Committee
and
we've
gotten
good
feedback
from
them
on
kind
of
how
that
works,
what
works
and
what
doesn't
and
we've
tried
to
be
cognizant
of
that
of
tailoring
it
to
something
that
can
fit
for
our
department,
but
that,
to
your
point,
isn't
just
completely
coming
up
with
a
new
design
of
doing
things,
but
really
building
on
the
good
work
that
other
departments
have
done
and
what
they've
seen
success
with
I.
Think.
E
Finally,
just
to
your
point
about
the
percentage
of
completion
for
the
application,
I
mean
this
is
a
draft
of
the
of
the
code,
and
this
is,
you
know,
a
framework
that
we're
still
developing
and
working
through.
So
we
certainly
welcome
that
feedback,
especially
from
folks
that
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
the
process
of
an
application
from
the
start
of
the
concept
to
when
it
all
gets
all
the
way
to
building.
E
And
so
we
would
welcome
any
thoughts
that
people
have,
whether
it's
Community
or
developers
or
committee
or
commission
members
on
what
are
really
the
best
numbers
that
we
have
for
that.
How
do
we
have
a
framework
that
flows
coherently.
A
Because,
right
now
we
encourage
like
pre-applications,
but
the
most
aren't
required
on
most
applications
right,
and
there
are
obviously
look
other
local
that
do
require
them.
I,
guess
kind
of
coming
back
to
your
thing
from
the
private
side
on
doing
an
application
is
setting
up
the
pre-application
meeting
or
initial
concept
meeting.
A
A
If
you
follow
the
process
and
you
have
a
complete
application,
it
can
happen
relatively
quickly
to
get
through
to
approval
where
I
think
in
other
jurisdictions.
Some
of
the
challenges
that
we've
had
is
you
put
in
an
application,
for
you
have
to
put
in
a
request
for
a
initial
concept
review
meeting
and
that's
going
to
be
four
or
five
weeks
out.
Then
you
have
the
meeting
and
then
you
can
actually
submit
until
you
have
a
neighborhood
meeting.
A
The
neighborhood
meeting
has
to
be
notified
when
you
can't
have
a
your
next
step
until
at
least
10
days
after
your
neighborhood
meeting,
and
and
so
it
really
trickles
into
a
long
period
of
time
and
on
the
private
side.
There's
a
lot
of
downtime
on
weight
between
those
pieces
so
from
the
productivity
of
starting
a
design
on
a
project
to
getting
a
full
application,
there's
probably
a
little
more
relax.
Maybe
that's,
maybe
the
the
fear
probably
about
that
process,
but
not
without
seeing
more
detail
on
it.
A
I
think
I
certainly
understand
the
the
extra
involvement
with
bringing
the
community
in
earlier
I
think
that's
encouraged,
I
think
I'm
on
all
parties.
That
isn't
doesn't
really
happen
as
often
now
I
think
so.
I
I
do
encourage
that,
but
it
is.
It
puts
a
little
bit
more
responsibility
back
on
the
applicant
to
to
do
a
few
more
steps.
G
Mr,
chair,
yeah,
yeah,
I,
guess
real.
Oh.
D
I
was
just
gonna
hi,
good
Committee,
Member,
Marsh
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
and
I
know
you
all
as
design
Review
Committee
are
seeing
things
that
will
likely
stay
unchanged
in
terms
of
scale
that
will
go
to
the
committee.
However,
we're
likely
receiving
a
an
efficiency
in
our
process
by
having
expanded
our
table
of
allowed
uses.
D
So,
typically,
when
something
does
come
to
the
design,
Review
Committee
outside
of
the
downtown,
it's
already
gone
through
Planning
and
Zoning,
to
get
usually
a
PUD,
we've
expanded
that
quite
significantly
so
at
least
there's
that
efficiency
there
and
so
that
the
goal
there
is
really.
We
want
to
have
the
type
of
development
that
we
want
in
our
city
and
make
that
process
easier
and
for
the
things
that
require
longer
processes.
D
It's
because
we've
established
some
sort
of
weight
and
taking
our
time
to
make
sure
we're
getting
the
right
process,
so
at
least
we're
in
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
a
rezone.
We
want
it
to
take
a
while,
so
that
we're
actually
thinking
through
the
process
and
not
rushing
through
certain
decisions,
yeah.
G
G
C
Committee,
members,
that
is
correct
and
ultimately
and
I
guess
I
challenge
you
over
the
next
few
weeks
to
take
a
look
at
the
applications
that
you
are
receiving.
The
number
of
conditions
that
you're
receiving
I
think
the
ultimate
goal
is
is
that
we
only
have
a
few
final
decisions
that
have
to
be
tweaked
to
in
order
to
get
that
excellent
project
that
we've
worked
out.
All
of
those
things
very
early
on.
C
We
have
had
conversations
with
various
groups
that
said
hey,
maybe
the
25
isn't
quite
right
or
the
50
isn't
quite
right
and
and
that's
okay
and
we're
taking
feedback
in
regard
to
that.
I
guess:
I'm
telling
people
that,
when
we
think
about
concept,
I
want
somebody
to
come
in
and
say:
hey,
I'm,
interested
in
doing
a
hotel
development,
I'm
proposing
to
vacate
an
alley
and
here's
what
I'm
doing
within
this
zoning
District.
C
Of
course,
we
know
that
you
know
we
have
to
vet
those
comments
as
well
to
make
sure
that
those
are
applicable
to
the
code
or
to
our
our
long-term
strategic
goals,
but
then
also
making
sure
that
we're
looking
at
all
of
the
other
agencies
as
well,
so
that
oftentimes,
we
don't
get
through
a
project
and
then
we
know
that
trash
has
to
be
relocated
and
it
changes.
Everything
or
aerial
access
must
be
provided
to
a
building
and
that
changes
our
streetscapes.
C
We
should
be
working
those
things
out
early
on,
rather
than
later
on
or
within
a
constrained
time
frame,
which
puts
pressure
on
our
appointed
and
our
elected
officials
to
make
a
determination
which
they
probably
shouldn't
have
to
make
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
So,
ultimately,
that's
our
goals,
and
you
know
we
are
taking
timing
into
really
important
consideration
as
we
move
forward.
C
As
we've
noted,
we
think
all
of
these
steps
you
know,
are
occurring
under
normal
circumstances,
but
the
ones
that
where
they
aren't
that's,
really
where
it's
critical
oftentimes,
especially
the
design
Review
Committee,
we
will
get
an
application
and
staff
has
never
seen
it
or
heard
of
it
before,
and
we
should
have
had
an
opportunity
to
really
talk
about
some
of
those
things
very
early
on,
rather
than
only
at
the
hearing,
because
that
was
our
our
only
opportunity
to
provide
that
feedback.
F
Mr,
chair
yeah
I
I'm
backtracking,
going
back
to
the
project
map.
I
love
the
idea,
that's
I'm
very
excited
to
see
that
implemented.
Would
the
process,
though,
that
has
been
kind
of
the
discussion
point
at
what
point?
Does
it
become
public
knowledge
and.
A
F
Where
would
we
have
our
first
chance
to
kind
of
get
familiar
with
something
or
at
least
understand?
The
concept,
and
you
know
is:
is
that
something
where,
if
we
felt
like
going
out
of
our
way
to
find
that
information,
we
could
be
watching
the
process
as
it
unfolded,
or
would
the
intent
still
be
for
us
to?
C
Well,
I
think
that's
still
kind
of
out
there
we're
taking
feedback
in
regard
to
that.
What
we've
heard
is
is
sometimes
a
developer
or
a
designer
isn't
quite
ready
to
release
their
plans
at
25
percent,
and
you
know
they
have
concerns
because
they
know
that
they're
going
to
change.
So
they
don't
want
those
out.
They
don't
want
to
tip
off
individuals
that
might
have
you
know,
be
gathering
oppositions
in
that
regard.
C
So
we
need
to
figure
out
the
right
time
as
to
where
we
start
to
create
a
case
File,
certainly
at
the
very
very
minimal
it
would
be.
You
know,
as
you
move
forward
to
the
inter-departmental
Review
Committee,
whether
it
happens
at
the
concept
review,
where
you're
assigned
a
number
at
that
time
where
it
can
be
tracked,
we
need
to
figure
that
out.
So
if
you
have
feedback
in
regard
to
that,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful
for
you,
as
not
only
professionals
but
as
as
decision
makers
as
well.
H
Mr
Jeremy,
yes,
I,
think
everybody's
sort
of
landing
on
the
same
point,
and
what
occurs
to
me
is
that
this
developer,
who
comes
to
you,
whoever
that
developer,
is
whether
it's
a
public
entity
or
a
private
entity.
They've
got
to
put
down
on
paper
enough
that
they
know
performa-wise
this
thing's
a
go
or
no-go.
They
can't
come
stumbling
in
and
go
well.
Are
you
going
to
give
us
that
road?
Well,
as
a
setback,
not
quite
right,
they're,
going
to
want
to
pick
enough
information
that
they
can
say?
H
Should
we
go
buy
this
piece
of
ground
and
move
forward
with
it?
They
can't
wait
six
months,
four
months,
three
months
to
sort
of
ferret
that
out.
If
the
process
is
saying
you
know
back
up
and
let
us
take
a
real
good
look
at
this
before
you
get,
don't
don't
go
too
far,
but
they
need
to
go
far
enough,
that
they
know
that
their
money
is
safe,
that
they're
heading
in
the
right
direction.
H
C
Yeah
and
I
hope
that
we
can
put
your
mind
at
ease,
as
our
our
new
planning
director
has
really
looked
at
our
process
and
feels
that
The
Upfront
effort
is
really
worth
it
and
so
kind
of
evaluating
what
our
staffing
looks
like
and
putting
a
lot
of
more
staff
up
front.
So
we
where
we
do
have
the
availability.
So
when
we
talk
about
early
assistance
that
when
you
come
in
for
a
concept
review
or
that
that
mid-process
review,
we
have
the
opportunity
to
respond
to
you
quickly
within
you
know
a
day.
C
If
not,
you
know
that
we're
responding
quickly.
Now,
of
course,
the
interdepartmental
agency
review.
You
know
that
certainly
will
be
a
scheduled
out
meeting
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
make
that
work.
Our
feedback
that
we've
gotten
from
our
external
agencies
and
our
internal
departments
is
the
best
way
for
us
to
do
that
is
to
have
them
on
a
solid
day,
so
perhaps
very
similar
to
what
we
have
today
is
a
pre-application
meeting.
So
on
Thursdays,
because
we
have
more
people
at
the
table.
C
We
know
that
those
are
going
to
be
longer
in
duration,
so,
instead
of
half
day
it
might
be
a
full
day,
and
so
we
might
meet
every
Thursday
for
the
entire
period,
also
with
the
pre-applications
that
we
get.
They
often
fill
up
quickly.
But
the
problem
is,
is
a
lot
of
those
are
simple
ideas:
they
haven't
vetted
them,
they're,
not
ready
for
that
type
of
commitment,
and
they
have
taken
up
a
slot
where
somebody
who
might
have
been
through
the
remainder
of
the
process
is
ready,
and
so
they
kind
of
get
cheated.
C
C
A
I
I
Mr
chair,
we
just
have
a
couple
minutes
till
the
actual
hearing,
so
just
real
super
quick.
You
know
a
shortage
into
tonight.
We
do
have
a
Time
extension
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
Those
are
actually
not
public
hearings,
just
just
so
you're.
If
we
don't
see
a
ton
of
them,
we
get
them
only
occasionally.
So
just
as
a
reminder
item
a
is
not
a
public
hearing.
So
no
need
to
take
public
testimony
on
that,
and
then
we
just
have
the
item
on
Fletcher
that
was
continued
from
last
month.
A
I
I
A
Foreign
I'd
like
to
call
the
November,
9th
2022
and
sign
review
committee
meeting
to
order
and
with
that
Christine
please
call
the
roll.
D
G
A
We
have
two
outstanding
design:
Review
Committee
minutes
from
2018,
both
March
March
14th
and
June
13,
and
those
two
items
will
be
tabled
until
we
can
confer
further
with
staff
at
this
time.
We'd
also
look
to
take
a
motion
on
last
month's
minutes
of
October
12
2022.
A
A
F
A
A
We
have
one
item:
that's
a
Time
extension.
It's
item
number
80,
Arch
20-00051,
it's
2502,
West,
Bannock,
Street,
the
time
extension
of
the
approval
to
construct
a
five
unit,
three-story
multi-family
residential
building
with
three
detached
garage
buildings
and
Associated
site
improvements
on
a
property
in
an
r3d
Zone.
A
H
As
long
as
you're
clear
that
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
move,
it's
emotion,
worthy
item,
I,
guess
that
that
was
what
I
was
curious
about.
G
The
approval
of
the
time
extension
for
drh
20-00051
containing
all
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
original
approval
and
staff
report.
Okay,
second,.
A
So,
thank
you
with
that
Christine.
Will
you
please
call
the
roll.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
We
have
one
item
on
a
regularly
scheduled
hearing
tonight
is
item
number
one.
It's
drh,
20-00008
location
is
2850,
West,
Fletcher
Street,
and
it's
a
public
work
session
to
satisfy
the
conditions
of
approval
this
time,
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
staff
for
their
presentation.
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
K
The
applicant
has
provided
revised,
elevations
and
renderings,
so
you
have
the
original
North
elevation,
the
previous
North
elevation
that
you
saw
last
month
and
the
new
North
elevation
on
the
podium
levels.
The
applicant
has
provided
additional
articulation,
including
additional
openings
and
glazing,
incorporation
of
an
accent,
brick
elimination
of
some
of
the
blank
wall
areas,
details
for
the
exposed,
concrete
and
incorporation
of
decorative
metal
panels,
and
these
are
just
some
updated
rendering
showing
changes
to
the
podium
on
the
left
and
then
on.
The
right
is
the
revised
office
and
multi-family
piece.
K
So
the
first
floor
on
that.
The
first
and
second
floor
is
the
residential,
and
that
has
been
revised
to
be
more
in
scale
with
the
rest
of
the
building.
And
then
you
have
an
office
that
extends
over
the
top
of
it,
and
then
we
have.
The
Apple
can
also
provided
details
in
regard
to
amenity
decks
and
then
the
applicant
team.
We
have
Jay
here
in
person
and
I,
believe
the
architect
is
online
foreign.
A
L
Thank
you,
Mr,
chairman
Commissioners,
gentlemen.
Lady
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
before
you
again.
Our
architect
has
has
turned
around
some
design
revisions
and
elements
that
I
think
really
further.
L
The
efforts
that
you
all
wanted
to
see
again
to
discuss
with,
especially
that
the
podium
as
along
Fairview
treatments,
to
really
Spruce
that
up
make
it
more
pedestrian
friendly,
as
well
as
as
make
sure
that
the
the
residential
component
on
the
west
end
of
the
office
building
tied
to
the
building
better
than
it
doesn't
look
pasted
on
anymore
and
he's
done
a
really
good
job
and
he's
been
out
of
town,
but
he's
he
turned
this
around
in
a
timely
fashion
and
he's
online
from
Southeast
Asia.
L
Where
he's
been
since
the
last
hearing
and
I'll,
let
him
run
through
his
narrative
and
and
the
changes
and
and
provide
comment
great.
A
M
Hello,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
hi
Grant
Seaman
600,
First,
Avenue,
Suite,
102,
Seattle
Washington.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
again
on
on
this
regular
agenda
hearing.
As
both
Caitlyn
and
Jay
mentioned,
we
have.
We
took
your
feedback
from
last
time,
which
was
all
all
great
and
and
I
think
really
helped
push
the
projects
along
further,
both
at
the
podium
level
and
at
the
West
office.
M
So
just
on
this
page,
that's
up
right
now,
as
you
can
see,
we'll
start
with
the
office
area
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
the
screen
we've
got
the
you
know.
Originally
the
the
couple
of
units
were
there.
We
talked
about
needing
those
for
for
unit
count,
but
they
did,
you
know,
appear
not
really
to
co
well,
yeah
not
to
be
very
cohesive
with
the
with
the
office
itself.
M
So
what
we
looked
at
was
actually
extending
the
the
third
and
fourth
floors
of
the
of
the
office
floor,
which
is
the
first
two
floors
of
office.
Use
we've
extended
those
out
to
kind
of
tie
everything
together
and
we've
redesigned
those
first
and
second
floor
units
to
be
a
bit
more
of
a
commercial
kind
of
a
lock
Style
with
with
large
windows,
and
you
know
lots
of
visibility
in
and
out,
but
it
also
kind
of
ties
in
with
that.
M
More
commercial
look
and
the
we
essentially
only
went
up
two
stories
on
the
office
one
so
that
we
were
able
to
create
a
another
outdoor
element
for
potentially
the
building
or
the
the
people
up
on
the
fifth
floor
of
the
office
as
a
as
a
roof
deck
that
kind
of
overlooks
on
both
Fairview
and
the
green
belts,
but
also
it
got
back
to
kind
of
our
original
thought
of
trying
to
step
the
building
down
a
little
bit
as
we
got
towards
the
the
green
belt.
M
So
the
you
know
we
didn't
have
the
full
but
full
six-story
Mass
that
close
to
the
green
belt.
M
So
the
lower
right
is
the
view
from
the
from
the
bridge
on
Fairview,
as
you
can
kind
of
see,
the
the
based
on
the
grading
of
the
site
and
really
White
Water,
the
new
white
water
extension
being
our
our
key
type
point.
The
the
first
floors
at
this
West
End
of
approximately
four
feet
below
below
the
sidewalk
at
Fairview,
so
we'll
be
working
on
a
a
pathway
down
to
transition
from
the
sidewalk
down
to
the
down
to
the
finished
floor
area.
M
There
that'll
provide
both
access
to
the
project
as
well
as
access
to
the
to
and
from
the
Green
Belt.
The
let's
see
right
above,
say
the
upper
right
corner.
That's
a
view.
Looking
from,
essentially
the
the
current
Greenbelt
pathway,
access
we've
got
the
again
those
those
first
and
second
floor
units
are
very
open.
M
They'll
have
some
patios
out
there
on
the
first
floor
and
the
index
or
balconies
on
the
second
floor,
and
then
the
office
has
lots
of
visibility
and
windows
that
both
tie
or
both
provide
views
of
the
of
the
green
belt
in
the
river
and
also
ties
into
the
large
glazing
now
on
the
units
and
then
kind
of
tucked
into
the
corner
there,
so
that
it's
out
of
the
out
of
the
70-foot
buffer
we've
got
a
small
Plaza
or
play
area
there.
M
That
we're
thinking
could
be
kind
of
a
shared
use
facility
both
for
residents
and
potentially
folks
from
the
Green
Belt
could
share
use
of
that.
M
Let's
see
so
that
kind
of
covers
the
the
office
side
as
we
get
in
further
I've
got
some
some
more
detailed
blow
up
shots
of
the
podium.
So
we
can
address
those
later.
M
Yeah
we
can
this.
This
is
good.
Caitlin
I
can
briefly
talk
about
the
these
overall
elevations
and
they're,
still
really
big,
because
it's
a
very
large
building
but
like
I,
said
I've
got
some
blow
up
shots
that
we
can
go
through
as
well.
So
this
is
this
first
North
elevation
is
essentially
along
Fairview.
M
We've
got
the
the
revised
office
and
the
extended
third
and
fourth
floor
over.
On
the
right
hand,
side
glazing,
glazing's,
been
added
both
in
the
units
down
below
and
in
there's
a
an
entry
exit
stair
right
there
in
that
area
as
well.
That's
got
glazing
added
coming
across
the
podium.
We
have
brought
in
both
additional
additional
either
storefront
or
garage
openings
for
for
ventilation,
but
then
also
we've
extended
the
the
the
brick
material
down
any
areas
that
are
still
concrete
exposed.
M
Concrete
we've
added
a
basically
a
horizontal
three-quarter
inch.
B
group
detail
to
kind
of
break
up
break
up
the
the
concrete
and
provide
some
some
more
articulation
in
there
and
then,
as
we
move
further
to
the
east,
we've
got
the
corner
of
the
west
building,
which
is
a
small
retail
area,
and
that
has
the
expansive
double
height,
glazing
and
we've
wrapped
that
in
the
in
the
accent,
brick,
the
darker
accent,
brick
to
basically
tie
back
with
the
with
the
office
as
well.
M
We've
kind
of
utilized
the
the
light
and
dark
bricks
so
that
things
are
cohesive
across
the
the
project.
M
Continuing
again
to
the
West,
the
area
kind
of
centrally
located
was
originally
or
in
the
in
the
prior
discussion.
That
was
where
that
that
kind
of
larger
expanse
of
blank
wall
was,
we
were
able
to
plug
in
a
a
large
storefront
as
a
an
entry
area
where
one
of
the
major
elevators
and
stairs
are.
M
M
We've
got
the
the
large
North
amenity
deck
and
you
can
see
kind
of
a
orangish
or
quarten
steel
colored
panel
there
and
that's
actually
a
an
infinity
edge
pool
that
will
will
slightly
pop
out
beyond
the
podium
to
provide
some
interest
there,
both
from
the
street
and
for
for
folks
that
are
in
the
pool
just
looking
North
and
then,
as
we
continue
again
to
the
east.
M
M
The
East
Elevation
is
similar
that
one.
Let's
see
we
had
a
little
closer
to
the
corner.
We
had
a
another,
solid
blank
wall
area
that
has
been
revised
with
with
more
glazing
for
another
entry
exit
to
the
to
the
building
there.
And
then
the
retail
is
the
bulk
of
that
area.
M
M
What
is
that
the
north
east
corner
right
at
the
corner
of
27th
and
Fairview
we've
added
a
another
panel
area
above
the
canopy,
which
you
can
see
in
one
of
the
blow-ups
that
we'll
look
through
later,
let's
see
and
then
heading
to
the
south
of
the
building,
let's
see
similar,
not
that
building
or
that
portion
of
the
building
had
a
fair
amount
of
openings
already
and
then
the
the
kind
of
lower
dark
wall
areas
that
we
had
addressed
in
in
Prior
work
sessions.
M
So
we've
just
added
additional
areas
of
brick
and
scored,
concrete
and
I
believe
a
few
additional
opening
areas
and
some
additional
storefront
to
this
area
as
well
and
then,
finally,
the
west
elevation.
That's
the
elevation
of
the
new
or
the
the
revised
elevation
of
the
office.
I
should
say
where
we've
got,
let's
see,
I'll,
let
you
get
there.
M
Yeah,
so
that
that
area
we've
got
the
large
glazing
up
in
the
office
area.
We've
got
the
the
newly
extended
third
and
fourth
floors
with
the
roof
deck
above
and
then
in
the
upper
right
side
of
that,
where
the
the
three-story
height
storefront
ends.
There's
a
there's,
a
another
roof
deck
up
on
that
fifth
floor
or
excuse
me
that
sixth
floor
that
that
was
in
there
previously
okay.
M
So
we
can
start
going
through
the
perspectives
now
I
think
that'll
that'll
help
zoom
in
on
areas
a
little
a
bit
more.
M
Yeah,
this
is
a
good
one,
so
this
is
the
area.
The
the
upper
view
is
that
Central,
north
Central
North
amenity
deck
area
and
also
the
area
where
we
had
a
large
large
blank
wall
area
before
so
now,
we've
we've
come
in
we've
added
the
the
storefront
entry
or
that
double
height
storefront.
M
Let's
see
right
below
the
the
large
white
element
and
it's
got
the
metal
panels
on
either
side.
There's
the
street
trees
running
across
the
facade
and
then
the
the
Brick
accents
are
in
there
to
break
up
the
facade,
the
amenity
deck
you
can
see.
We've
got
a
bird's
eye
view
a
bit
later
in
the
in
the
sheets
as
well
that
you
can
see
the
the
pool
up
there.
M
A
little
bit
better,
but
essentially
the
the
bulk
of
this
facade
is,
is
now
open
either
with
with
storefront
or
there's
a
few
areas
of
open
garage
with
a
metal
metal
decorative
Grill
panel
in
there.
M
This
is
the
view
where
Whitewater
cuts
through
the
project,
White
Water
would
go
under
that
that
bridge
connecting
the
two
buildings
and
then
we've
got
both
in
the
the
west
building
on
the
right
hand,
side
we've
got
first
floor,
retail
and
then
the
building
on
the
East
building
on
the
left-hand
side
of
this
image,
we've
got
first
floor,
retail
and
then
leasing
office
will
be
over
in
that
area
as
well.
M
Let's
see
yeah
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
page.
Please.
M
Let's
see
so
on
the
upper
left,
that
is
the
27th
and
Fairview,
and
that
view
We've
added
a
bit
more
glazing,
particularly
the
the
area.
That's
just
to
the
left
of
the
stoplight.
Essentially,
there
was
some
some
solid
wall
in
that
area.
M
We
we
were
able
to
add
an
entry
exit
in
there
and
then
right
on
the
corner
kind
of
running
angled
between
that
notch.
In
the
building
we've
added
a
metal
panel
or
metal
decorative
panel
above
the
canopy
between
the
between
the
horizontal
white
element
and
the
canopy
to
the
right
of
the
view.
M
That
was
the
essentially
the
perspective
that
we
saw
earlier,
but
that's
looking
across
Fairview
from
White
Water
as
white
water
goes
under
the
building
and
again
we've
similarly
got
the
the
Brick
and
then
you
can
see
in
some
of
the
blow
ups
you'll
see
the
the
detail
of
the
concrete
a
bit
more
but
to
the
west
or
the
right
hand,
side.
There's
the
brick
accents
with
the
scored
score.
Excuse
me,
scored
concrete.
M
M
And
let's
see
this
is
the
South
West
Corner
looking
north,
so
looking
from
27th
and
Fletcher,
the
brick
accents
and
storefront
have
been
continued
around
the
the
back
of
the
building
I.
Let's
see
I
believe
under
that
stair
Tower
kind
of
on
the
left.
M
There
was
a
another
blank
area
before
so:
we've
added
in
a
double
height
storefront
entry
exit
there
extended
the
canopy
over
and
then
on
the
on
the
corner,
to
the
right
hand,
side
or
to
the
east
that
corner
we've
got
the
decorative
metal
panels
there
again
and
then
let's
see
and
then
we've
continued
the
the
Brick
and
scored
concrete
down
the
down.
Fletcher
elevation
to
the
excuse
me
to
the
West.
M
And
I've
got
a
similar
view
of
this.
That's
a
little
more
zoomed
in
that
we
can
look
at
in
the
in
the
next
pages
Caitlyn.
M
N
M
Brick
and
the
horizontal
horizontal
window
areas,
and
then
to
the
right
of
it,
is
the
garage
entry
from
Fletcher
Street
and
you
can
see
the
the
scored
concrete
or
that
with
the
three
quarter,
inch
V
groove
and
then
the
decorative
metal
panels
that
are
going
into
the
ground
floor,
ground
floor
garage
openings.
Those
are
there
in
the
in
the
right
hand,
side
of
that
image.
M
Let's
see
and
then
down
here.
This
is
from
the
this
would
be
from
the
southwest
Southwest
area.
Looking
towards
well
looking
towards
the
area
we
were
just
looking
at.
So
we've
got
again
some
of
the
scored,
concrete
elements,
the
decorative
panels
and
then
across
the
way,
you've
got
the
brick
at
the
podium
level.
M
This
is
just
yeah.
This
is
more
of
the
prior
design
versus
the
current
design.
So
I
think
this
we
can
probably
pass
through
this.
We've
already
talked
about
the
building
design.
M
Let's
see
yeah,
maybe
that
last
page
with
the
amenity
decks
and
then
we
can
go
from
there.
So
this
is
just
kind
of
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
we're
what
we're
preliminarily
thinking
for
the
amenity
decks.
M
The
upper
left
is
the
the
North
Deck
that
faces
Fairview
and
that
would
be
a
kind
of
a
larger
deck,
have
a
mix
of
mix
of
seating
areas,
barbecue
and
eating
areas,
and
then
it's
got
that
large
pool
infinity
pool
that'll,
look
out
over
the
North
and
you'll
be
able
to
see
the
see
the
water
coming
over
the
Infinity
Edge
from
the
street,
so
you'll
get
kind
of
a
mix
of
sounds
of
water,
the
visual
impact
Etc
and
then
yeah
I
guess
people
in
the
pool
will
get
the
nice
nice
Northern
views
the
upper
right
corner.
M
That
is
the
South.
Excuse
me
Southwest
deck
and
that
has
another
another
Pool,
some
game
areas
more
sitting
and
eating,
and
then
we've
got
a
got
a
dog
park
there
in
the
lower
portion,
where
you
see
the
green,
the
turf
up
there
and
then
the
final
deck.
The
lower
left
corner,
that
is,
the
southeast.
Oh
sorry,
I
messed
up
the
prior
one
was
Southeast.
This
is
Southwest.
M
M
So
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
very
active
area
both
on
Fairview
side
and
on
the
Fletcher
side
at
the
at
the
second
floor
level.
So
the
you
know,
as
The
Pedestrian
activity
grows
in
the
area
as
well.
There'll
be
some
some
kind
of
visual
connection
between
the
two
levels
as
well.
M
M
This
view
this
view
is
more
kind
of
showing
the
on
the
left
hand,
side.
We've
got
the
the
grade
a
little
more
adjusted,
so
you
can
see
the
the
patios
on
the
first
level
of
the
units
and
then
the
the
grade
level
comes
across
the
or
comes
down
from
Fairview
and
we've
got
a
pathway
in
the
landscape
plans
that
comes
across
there,
so
that
was
just
kind
of
a
minor
tweak
on
that
one.
If
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
page,
please.
M
Yeah,
if
we
can
just
zoom
in
on
those,
they
should
look
pretty
good.
So
from
a
legend
standpoint,
if
I
guess,
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
go
to
the
right,
real
quick
on
the
upper.
M
So
these
are
a
couple
of
shots
in
the
red
box
kind
of
the
first
and
second
level
units
on
the
under
the
office
and
then
an
area
where
the
multi-family
in
the
office
can
connect.
Okay,.
M
So
here
you
can
see
the
on
the
east
side
here
or
on.
The
right
in
front
of
us
is
the
multi-family
building
where
it
connects
into
the
office
Podium
and
this
area
we've
got
the
the
light,
brick
accent
running
through
the
podium
and
then
the
areas
that
are
concrete.
M
We've
got
that
horizontal
score
line
in
there
to
help
break
it
up
and
it'll
it'll
likely
have
some
Shadow
elements
as
well
in
there
and
then
the
on
the
bottom
that
first
floor
I
think
we
can
zoom
in,
and
you
can
see
the
the
metal
grilles
that
are
in
the
first
floor.
Openings.
M
Yeah,
so
we've
got
got
some
decorative
metal
grills
that
are
that
are
going
to
be
in
the
openings.
That'll
provide
a
bit
more
interest
there
than
just
either
an
opening
or
kind
of
a
you
know,
standard
chain
link
or
something
like
that,
so
these
will
be
actual
patterned
patterned
panels.
M
And
then
to
the
far
right,
we've
got
the
you
see
the
third
well,
the
third
floor
of
the
office.
Is
there
and
then
the
units
are
in
the
lower
right
corner
with
large
Windows
we've
continued
to
continue
the
brick
across
there
and
then
we've
got
some
double
height
storefront
areas.
One
of
them
is
a
entry
area
for
the
units,
the
other
one's,
a
an
area
into
the
garage
and
circulation
space,
and
then
we've
got
the
added
garage
openings
as
well.
M
I
believe
that
was
that
was
closed
prior.
M
So
the
next
area-
we've
zoomed
in
a
bit
on
the
White
Water,
where
Whitewater
enters
the
project.
M
And
in
here
you
can
see
the
the
the
Brick
is
We've
continued,
the
Stacked
Bond
brick
theme
and
we've
worked
areas
where
you
know
full
height,
brick,
there's
brick
between
the
storefronts,
with
an
accent
band
above
or
there's
a
brick
wins
caught
with,
with
the
scored
concrete
excuse
me
above.
M
M
Tie
it
all
together,
but
you
know
didn't
want
to
go
from
just
all
concrete
to
all
brick
and
so
wanted
to
keep
some
variety
between
the
materials,
but
not
not
ad.
You
know
introduce
a
bunch
of
new
materials
as
well.
M
So
this
is
the
on
either
side
of
the
amenity
deck,
essentially
that
North
amenity
deck.
M
This
little
thought
was
big:
it's
a
taking
a
while
to
load
on
my
side,
Okay,
so
yeah,
the
this
view
in
front
of
us.
M
This
was
a
another
portion
of
that,
primarily
primarily
blank
wall
area,
so
we
added
another
double
height
storefront
in
there
at
the
at
the
entry
exit
and
then
introduced
a
metal
decorative
wall
panel
and
then
the
metal
panel
or
the
metal
grills
in
the
garage
openings,
and
you
can
see
a
bit
of
the
infinity
edge
pool
sticking
over
the
over
the
podium
in
the
upper
right.
M
Yeah
so
this
area,
this
was
that
largest
area
of
blank
wall.
Before
and
we've
turned
this
into
we've
added
to
the
right
of
this
double
height
storefront,
there
was
a
I
think
the
first
day
or
two
storefront
was
was
blank,
so
we
were
able
to
get
some
additional
storefront
in
there
get
some
additional
storefront
to
the
left
of
this
large
opening
and
then
get
a
double
height.
More
of
a
key
entry
element
facing
the
street
with
the
metal
panels
on
each
side
of
it.
M
Let's
see
this
is
a
view
just
a
blow
up
view
of
the
infinity
pool
extending
over
the
podium,
and
then
you
can
see
I
think
this
view
zoomed.
In
enough,
you
can
see
the
the
grill
panels
that
we've
proposed
for
the
lower
garage
openings
as
well,
and
the
that
metal
element
in
front
of
the
infinity
pool.
M
That
would
be
a
perforated
perforated
panel,
similar
to
a
corten,
steel
or
or
a
rusted
metal,
look
to
which
you
know
provides
a
little
bit
different
material,
but
also
ties
in
with
with
the
brick
and
other
colors
used
on
the
project.
M
Okay,
just
a
couple
more
quick
ones
here
now
we're
down
at
the
East
End
at
27th-
and
this
is
these-
are
basically
on
the
corner
of
27th
and
Fairview.
M
What
I
was
mentioning
earlier
with
the
with
the
decorative
metal
panels
that
are
run
in
between
basically
the
the
horizontal
White
element
and
the
and
the
canopy
previously
the
that
that
white
element
kind
of
stopped
at
the
the
East
edge
of
the
North
and
the
North
edge
of
the
East?
But
we
extended
it
extended
that
that
plane,
basically
across
the
corner,
with
let's
open
behind
it.
M
So
you
know
block
the
light
or
anything
down
into
that
corner,
but
it
essentially
we've
extended
that
across
the
corner
and
then
that
created
an
area
where
we
could
have
the
the
decorative
panels
up
there
as
well.
M
And
we've
got
the
we've
got
the
brick
wainscot
we've
got,
scored
Concrete
in
these
areas
done
some
full
height,
brick
at
some
of
the
stair
Tower
areas
and
then
the
decorative
panels
into
the
garage
again
and
then
on
the
right.
We
added
a
double
height,
storefront
and
then
we've
got
the
full
height
brick
and
the
decorative
panels
on
the
on
the
right
there.
Just
at
that
Southeast
or
yeah
South
Southeast
corner.
M
And
the
final
one,
this
is
just
a
the
south
west
view
of
the
office
area,
so
you've
got
we're
getting
lots
of
glazing.
It's
extended.
We've
extended
the
area
out
over
the
units
to
tie
all
that
together,
we've
added
a
shared
use,
space
with
the
the
playground
equipment
and
then
in
the
in
the
stair
Tower
of
the
office.
We've
added
additional
glazing
as
well
to
provide
provide
more
openness
there
as
well
so
I
think
that
runs
through
everything.
M
I
had
there
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
changes
and
enhancements.
We
did
but
I
think
you
know
I
think
we.
We
heard
your
feedback,
we
agreed
with
the
feedback
and
we've
Incorporated.
What
I
think
is
a
good
solution
to
so
that
we're
all
in
alignment
now.
A
A
L
L
I,
don't
have
any
any
further
comments.
We're
we're
curious
to
see
how
the
committee
feels
about
these
changes
and
the
new
elements,
and-
and
you
know
the
way
it
all
works
together,
hopefully
and
and
we'll
go
from
there
great.
Thank
you.
A
G
I,
just
my
only
part
that
I
I
mean
I
I
think
that
they
did
a
good
job,
incorporating
all
what
we
asked
for
bringing
some
glazing
some.
You
know
my
biggest
concern
with
this
was
that
North
elevation
and
then
that
Western
office
thing
I,
think
you
guys
did
a
great
job
really
dressing.
Those
up
I,
don't
know
if
the
play
equipment's
necessary
there
I
think
that
it's
better
suited
to
a
more
public,
passive
use
area.
That's
my
only
comment
on
that.
G
You
know
I,
ultimately,
I
feel
like
they
did
a
great
job,
bringing
this
back
to
us
at
this
level.
Thank.
A
N
I
I
agree
that
the
the
what
is
this
west
end
with
the
extra
units
in
the
office
is
solved.
I
I,
like
I,
think
it's
quite
attractive
now
and
I,
really
like
the
addition
of
all
the
brick.
It
makes
it
look
like
a
much
richer
building
and
breaks
it
up
in
a
way.
That's
very
pleasing
to
the
eye.
F
Mr
chair,
yes,
Mr,
stick
I,
I,
agree,
I,
think
the
office
has
dramatically
improved
and
I
I
appreciate
the
addition
of
the
the
materials
I
think
that
there
are
still
a
significant
problem
with
the
the
huge
expanses
of
unbroken
wall
plane
along
the
north,
facade
and
I
know
it's
not
directly
at
pedestrian
level,
but
the
fact
that
we've
got
that
huge
ribbon
that
goes
for
like
it
was
700
feet.
Now,
it's
probably
down
to
300.
F
F
So
personally,
the
the
only
way
that
I
would
feel
comfortable
approving
this
would
be
the
articulation
of
that
facade
through
it
could
be
as
simple
as
a
single
wife
pilaster,
and
it
could
be
the
same
brick
material
that
follows
those
modulations
within
the
the
facade,
but
just
carries
it
up
to
the
the
top
of
the
podium
level
rather
than
having
just
this
big
flat.
F
Expanse
and
I
would
want
to
see
that
pretty
much
everywhere
that
that
occurs,
including
on
the
western
side,
where
there's
this
the
big
strip
of
brick
that
has
the
scored,
concrete
kind
of
above
and
below
it.
I
I
think
that
that
suffers
equally,
even
though
there
is
different,
materiality
I
I'd
rather
see
the
the
grading
in
all
of
those
windows.
You
know
it
just
it's
a
little
jarring
to
me
to
see
the
essentially
the
same
condition
but,
like
the
top
looks
incomplete.
F
Now
that
the
the
grading
is
in
the
bottom
and
there
are
still
a
couple
places
where
I
I
think
that
you're,
not
necessarily
following
your
own
design
rules
I'd
go
back
to
the
the
intersection
of
Whitewater,
where
on
on
one
side
of
the
intersection,
there's
that
white
C
bracket
all
around
your
your
building
and
then
on
the
other
side.
It
stops
and
doesn't
complete
that
I
know
it
kind
of
from
just
the
strictly
massing
standpoint.
It
looks
somewhat
Sleek,
but
because
of
the
difference
in
materiality,
it
looks
incomplete
to
me.
F
I
I
think
this
building
is
at
its
best
when
the
the
top
floors
interact
with
the
ground
level
and
I
I
think
you
know
an
opportunity.
There
would
have
been
with
that
that
large
entryway
it's
it's
starting
to
have
like
the
window
openings
a
line
above
the
podium
versus
below
it,
but
it's
still
just
cut
off
at
the
podium
level
and
I
I.
F
Don't
think
it
reads
entirely
allegedly
from
the
exterior,
and
it
just
adds
complexity
without
adding
meaning
I
think
if,
if
that
makes
sense
to
anyone,
but
but
me
I,
say
a
lot
of
things
that
only
make
sense
to
me,
but
I'm
I'm
not
entirely
sold
on
the
the
infinity
pool
and
not
necessarily
because
it's
the
infinity
pool,
but
it's
just
a
spot
where
it's,
the
only
the
only
part
of
your
Podium
that
doesn't
have
something
sitting
on
top
of
it
and
I.
F
Just
think
that
that
is
not
a
fully
thought
out
condition.
You
know
where
that
that
two-story
wall
just
ends
what
what's
happening
there
everywhere
else.
You've
got
something
projecting
over
the
top
of
it,
but
here
it's
just
kind
of
carry
the
materials
up
and
I.
Just
want
to
see
a
little
more
completion
on
that
again,
not
that
I'm
saying
we
need
to
bring
it
back
here,
but
I
think
that
that
is
a
detail
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
F
G
Mr
chair,
yes,
can
I
clarify
something
with
Committee
Member
ersted,
and
maybe
it
gives
a
little
bit
more
clarity
to
the
applicant.
So,
on
the
south
side
of
the
facade,
they
have
kind
of
those
taller
pie,
lasters
that
carry
from
the
ground
level
up
to
the
top
of
the
podium.
Is
that
a
similar
condition
that
you'd
like
to
see
on
the
North
like
where
these
are?
They
basically
have
the
same
thing,
but
they're
broken
by
that
that
long
band
of
brick.
F
Mr,
chair,
Mr
Simple,
that's
that's
exactly
the
the.
H
F
The
the
not
necessarily
it
doesn't
need
to
be
replicated
exactly,
but
you
know
that
same
kind
of
modulation
incorporating
the
the
verticality
in
there
to
to
break
up
that
that
plane.
G
N
Mr
chairman,
yes,
I'm,
sorry
to
be
contrary
once
again,
but
I
I
like
it
as
is
and
I
like
that,
the
two
sides
of
the
entrance
of
Whitewater
aren't
too
similar.
H
Mr
chairman
I
I
will
agree
with
that
last
comment:
I
I
personally
get
a
little
uncomfortable.
If
we're
going
to
try
to
design
the
building
for
them,
they've
come
to
us
with
a
concept
that
works
it
has
it
had.
It
addressed
the
massiveness
of
that
the
scale
of
that
Podium
that
they
had
before
it's
broken
up.
It
has
a
change
of
materials.
H
It
has
all
the
things
that
we
asked
for
and
in
many
ways
I
think
it's
a
simple
elegant
solution
and
I
think
trying
to
do
too
much
with
it
just
points
out,
maybe
more
problems
than
it
solves.
A
Thank
you
other
comments,
questions
I,
think
I'm
kind
of
in
between
I
do
agree
on
that.
North
elevation.
One!
That's
shown
here
that
horizontal
bands
rather
long,
the
storefront
portions,
you
know
the
band
above
it
is
there's
not
a
lot
of
variation
for
a
lot
of
square
footage.
It's
basically
the
same
architecture
pattern
for
a
long
ways
across
there.
So
I.
You
know
a
little
bit
of
modulation.
As
you
said,
with
the
pilaster,
a
slight
change
of
break
I
think
would
be
beneficial.
A
A
Personally,
I
do
like
it
when,
as
Mr
stead
said
where
you
can
carry
some
of
the
upper
level,
fenestration
can
relate
to
the
podium
level
fenestration.
If
there's
possible
ways
about
it.
Ultimately,
I
do
appreciate
the
efforts
of
providing
us,
the
enlarged
perspectives
and
elevations
I.
Think
that
was
extremely
helpful
for
us
for
reviewing
this
package.
A
K
F
Should
have
rehearsed
before
ending
this
with
all
findings
of
fact,
recommendations,
Etc
and
the
inclusion
of
my
lasters
on
the
Podium
base
to
modulate
that
in
a
similar
manner
as
the
South
Assad.
F
A
A
G
A
G
Mr
chair,
yes,
I,
have
a
clarification
on
that.
Then,
at
the
storefront
areas,
I
mean
I'm,
assuming
there's
some
entrances
exits
there
they're
going
to
have
canopies
over
them
and
if
there's
a
canopy
there
I
think
it
provides
that
kind
of
articulation
of
the
facade
and
maybe
carrying
that
pilaster
up
through
the
canopy
area.
I
could
see
it
on
the
as
we're
looking
at
this
top
elevation
here
on
the
right
side.
So
the
north
end,
where
it's
all
parking
garage
I
just
feel
like
it.
Maybe
it's.
G
A
G
Yeah
Mr,
chair
I,
just
don't
know
if
it
does
anything
for
The
Pedestrian
experience.
I
can
see
I
feel
like
there's
going
to
be
enough
articulation
along
this.
The
southern
or
the
Eastern
Building
I
feel
like
maybe
the
Western
building
on
the
other
side
of
Whitewater
Park
could
maybe
benefit
from
a
little
bit
more
because
it's
got
metal
panel
and
just
there
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
as
much
horizontal
articulation
of
that
portion
of
the
facade.
F
Mr
chair,
yes,
I
I
recognize
that
the
we
received
the
modulation
for
the
The
Pedestrian
I.
Think
that
we,
you
know
our
purpose
is
not
specifically
to
look
at
a
single
experience
of
a
building.
But
you
know:
what's
the
50
000
foot
view?
What's
the
5000
foot
view?
What's
the
500
foot
view?