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From YouTube: Development Impact Fee Advisory Committee
Description
February 8, 2023
A
C
B
Gonna
call
this
meeting
to
order
item
number
one:
the
minutes
from
the
December
14th
yeah
all
right,
so
jorgasen
Ellis
here
fellows
here,
DC
area.
C
B
You
here
all
right
new
business,
the
minutes
from
the
December
14th
meeting.
Has
everybody
had
a
chance
to
review
the
minutes
from
December
14th?
Yes,
yes,
does
anybody
have
any
amendments
or
changes
Beyond
changing
my
name
in
the
call
to
order
and
in
minutes
just
the
program
is
before
the
meeting
started.
I
called
the
attention
that
my
name
was
misspelled
in
the
call
to
order,
so
we've
got
that
fixed
anything
else.
A
B
E
It
is
so
I
will.
As
you
mentioned,
it's
a
bunch
of
pages,
it's
even
more
dense
when
you
just
think
about
it
as
just
a
a
ton
of
numbers
that
are
being
thrown
at
you,
so
obviously
feel
free
to
interrupt
me
at
any
point.
But
I
don't
plan
on
going
through
every
single
item,
just
touching
on
some
of
the
highlights,
but
again
interrupt
me
at
any
point
along
the
line.
E
So
just
at
a
high
level,
you
know,
collections
for
impact
fees
were
were
pretty
good.
Last
year
it
was
4.1
versus
a
budget
that
was
probably
not
set
most
accurately,
but
it
was
coveted
and
it
was
before
the
impact
fee
increases
at
2.4,
but
the
prior
year
was
3.6,
which
ironically,
wasn't
even
known
when
we
were
creating
the
budget
for
22..
So
all
all
that
to
say
is
that
we
were.
We
were
materially
off
from
what
we
were
thinking
last
year,
but.
F
E
Was
a
favorable
Miss,
largely
driven
by
the
fact
that
that
we
had
the
substantial
fee
increase
that
took
effect
in
May
of
22
on
the
less
positive
front,
you
know
the
23
budget
was
basically
set
looking
at
the
total
fees
that
we're
in
and
10-year
plan,
dividing
by
10
and
just
saying
we'll
collect
roughly
10
percent
of
it
in
the
first
year,
which
seemed
reasonable
at
the
time
again
prior
to
interest
rate
hikes
prior
to
the
softening
and
the
housing
market
and
I'll
get
into
it
a
little
bit.
E
But
you
know
the
the
single
family
Market
in
particular
has
been
whacked
pretty
hard
and
just
you
know
in
terms
of
how
we're
actually
going
so
far
this
year.
Granted.
This
is
the
last
year's
fiscal
report,
but
just
to
give
you
a
little
preview
on
this
year,
you
know
we're
not
too
far
off.
You
know
rounded
we're
1.4
or
I'm
sorry,
1.4
million
through
January.
E
However,
that's
down
five
percent
because
it's
1.36
for
this
year
and
it
was
1.44
Million
for
last
year,
so
again
down
for
five
percent,
but
it's
much
better
than
where
we
started
the
year.
We
had
a.
We
had
a
good
January
and
when
I
first
put
this
slide
together
and
and
didn't
have
January's
numbers.
Yet
you
know
we
were
down
almost
30
percent.
So
getting
better.
E
You
know
I
defer
to
most
of
you
who
have
probably
a
better
sense
of
what's
coming,
but
you
know.
Hopefully
you
know
we
have
more
januaries
and
fewer
October's,
which
was
which
was
abysmal.
B
E
So
and
this
gets
into
a
little
bit
when
I
was
talking
about
with
the
the
first
quarter
basically
of
this
year
as
well
as
last
year,
what
happened?
And
so,
if
you
look
at
the
the
slide
and
it's
broken
down
by
multi-family
single
family,
which
also
includes
manufactured
homes
and
then
the
basically
duplexes
to
six
plexes
as
its
own
category
in
Orange.
E
And
if
you
look
at
it,
you
know
the
the
multi-family
and
that
would
include
the
duplexes
and
up
you
know,
has
been
relatively
stable
year
over
year,
21
to
22.,
both
really
good
years
best.
You
know
both
kind
of
record
years
actually,
but
if
you
look
at
the
blue
portion
of
the
bar
in
22,
it
is
dramatically
smaller
than
any
other
Blue
Bar
on
the
screen,
roughly
half
the
number
of
single
family
homes.
So
historically
it
was
about
800
a
year.
This
was
400.
E
so
so
again
pretty
week,
22
for
the
single
families
and
then,
if
you
look
at
it
a
month
over
month
basis,
you
can
see
that
most
months
or
week
just
it
got
weaker
towards
the
end
of
the
year,
whereas
in
21,
once
you
get
towards
the
end
of
the
calendar
year,
things
got
stronger
so
again
that,
based
on
what
we're
seeing
so
far,
we're
seeing
more
permits
come
in.
E
But
again
one
month
does
not
a
trend
make,
and
some
of
this
could
also
be
just
PDS
backlog
for
our
permitting
Department,
just
not
being
able
to
process
things
as
quickly.
Although
I
wouldn't
think
that
that
would
have
as
big
of
an
impact
on
single
families
as
multi-families,
just
because
the
review
is
not
nearly
as
complicated.
E
E
E
You
know,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
the
activity
dropped
in
the
second
half
largely
on
the
on
the
single
family,
and
then
you
know
it
really
looking
for
the
rest
of
the
year.
We
really
don't
know,
I
mean
I
think
in
the
long
term,
it's
the
same
dynamics
that
have
been
driving
us
for
the
last
five
years,
but
what
that
translates
to
for
the
rest
of
23
and
probably
in
the
24
as
well.
E
Turning
to
Parks
collections
in
particular,
you
know
most
the
park
planning
areas
since
overall
fees
were
up
most
the
park
planning
areas
were
up
overall,
you
know
Central
bench
just
because
it
tends
to
be
a
small
amount.
A
small
dollar
amount
was
a
very
big
percentage
increase.
E
You
know,
Southeast
was
up,
85
percent
Southwest
was
up
47
percent,
but
overall
and
probably
more
indicative
of
you
know
just
collections
overall,
as
Regional
was
up
four
percent
two
of
the
the
park
plane
areas
were
down,
North
River
was
down
about
14,
it
was
at
the
lowest
since
2019,
I,
believe
and
I.
Think
probably
a
large
part
of
that
is
just
there's
less
to
fill
in
out
there.
E
You
know
and
it's
some
larger
development
tracks
once
you
get
really
far
out
in
the
northwest
to
just
you
know:
I
I've,
driven
by
them
and
the
it
looks
like
a
lot
of
sight.
Work's
been
done,
but
there's
absolutely
no
building
going
on,
and
then
the
West
bench
was
also
down
really
significantly
actually
59,
but
West
bench
tends
to
be
driven
historically
by
large
developments,
and
so
you'll
have
very
few
permits
in
a
year
or
two
followed
by
a
ton
of
permits
the
following
year.
E
So
still
within
lot
within
range
of
the
overall
mean
of
where
we
are
just.
It
happened
to
be
one
of
the
down
years
relative
to
that
Main
foreign.
E
How
do
we
use
the
parks
fees
last
year
so
really
in
terms
of
completed
projects
and
Trevor
feel
free
to
chime
in?
If,
if
you
think,
I'm
glossing
over
anything
or
missed
anything,
but
really
the
two
big
projects
for
Regional
Parks
is
the
Hawkins
range
and
the
Julia
Davis
restroom
Hawkins
range.
Is
you
know
a
relatively
recent
project,
Julia
Davis
restroom
has
obviously
been
on
the
books
for
a
while
I
believe,
Hawkins
range
I
think
is
basically
done.
E
The
the
three
items
in
red
were
basically
where
we
spent
some
planting
dollars
last
year
for
the
Park's
maintenance,
relocation
from
Julia
Davis
out
to
the
site
by
the
airport.
Ultimately,
that's
a
I'll
speak
about
it
later
on
after
the
the
annual
report,
but
that's
a.
E
I
can
give
the
generalities,
but
I
can
walk
there.
I
can't
describe
it
well.
G
Hi
committee
members,
Sarah
Urkel,
Parks
resources,
superintendent,
Hawkins
range
Reserve,
is
a
400
acre
Reserve
that
was
compiled
through
three
separate
land
tryouts
actions
that
we're
all
finalized
I.
Think
in
2017..
G
The
this
property
is
about
I
think
I
want
to
say,
like
19
miles
up,
Bogus
Basin
Road
as
you're
driving
up.
You
probably
recognize
that
kind
of
modern,
really
cool.
Looking
house,
that's
juts
out
above
the
Road
and
the
road
kind
of
curves
around
that
home.
This
property
is
directly
south
of
that
property.
G
We
were
able
to
purchase
like
I,
said
those
those
open
space
properties
and
then
worked
to
create
some
plan
for
developing
about
a
six
mile
Loop,
which
is
the
trail
that's
in
there
and
then
obviously
providing
access
for
hikers
bikers
folks,
you
know
who
need
an
an
ADA
stall
and
then
also
horseback
Riders.
So
that
was
if
I
memory
serves
me
correctly.
This
project
was
funded
by
grants,
impact
fee
dollars
and
open
space
in
clean
water
and
by
Levy
funds,
and
it
is
complete,
Travis
correct.
G
G
B
E
Moving
on
to
Central
Bend
Franklin
Park,
which
we
all
got
to
see
was
was
a
big
project
out
there
West
bench
working
on
Pine,
Grove,
North
River,
although
there's
four
listed
here,
I
would
say
that
the
the
bulk
of
the
effort
right
now
and
Sarah,
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
he's
going
into
Primrose
Park,
which
is
a
new
park
that
we're
using
the
former
what
was
going
to
be
fire
station
13
site
for
a
park,
South
Southeast,
Barbara
Valley,
that
was
the
bowler
Greenup
that
was
basically
completed
last
year.
E
Although
it
was
finally
closed
out
in
fiscal
22
and
Southwest
Molnar
work.
There
continues,
however,
the
impact
fee
funded
portion
just
in
terms
of
the
dollars
is
completed,
so
there's
no
more
impact.
The
funding
being
spent
there
in
2023.
F
G
Yeah
I,
don't
blame
you
for
not
knowing
where
you
know
all
of
these
are
we
do
have
96
Parks
across
the
city,
so
we're
happy
to
provide
that,
for
you
molinar
and
Southwest
is
a
Maple
Grove
right,
Maple
Grove
and
anyway
we
we
could
spend
all
day
talking
about
where
these
places
are.
But,
yes,
we
will
provide
you
with
a
map
showing
the
location
of
these
Regional
and
regened
parks.
G
E
And
one
thing
and
I
don't
know
if
we
I'm,
assuming
that
we
we
have
it
somewhere
and
I,
don't
know
if
this
would
be
helpful
for
what
you're
looking
for.
But
what
all
right?
Let
me
ask
the
question:
first,
Parks
I'm,
assuming
somewhere,
we
have
a
GIS
map
that
locates
that
you
know
has
all
these
mapped
on
it.
Yes,.
G
E
That
would
be
kind
of
cool,
because
then
you
could
see
all
the
parks
and
then
just
focus
in
on
the
ones
you
care
about,
or
are
you
just
looking
for
the
you
know
the
ones
on
this
page
and
the
than
what
will
be
on
the
next
slide,
which
are
the
23
Parks
I.
F
G
Know
a
sense
of
where
they
are
and
go
visit
them.
If
you'd,
like
with
regard
to
interactive
maps,
I
mean
to
be
honest,
you
could
Google
any
one
of
these
sites
and
and
you
would
be
able
to
find
them,
but
we
do
have
open
data
and
in
our
Web
City
website
as
well.
That
would
allow
you
to
look
through
our
GIS
files.
C
E
Moving
on
to
what's
happening
or
what's
being
funded
next
year
or
that
gets
confusing
in
the
current
fiscal
year,
you
know
we're
going
to
finish
up
the
the
park.
Restroom
there's
there's
a
few
dollars
for
a
for
a
large
pick
up
for
for
for
Parks
a
dump
truck.
Basically
Spalding
Ranch
is
going
to
get
more
work
done.
The
parks
maintenance,
relocation
that
again
I'll
talk
more
about
that
later
and
then
you
know,
move
continuing
the
from
the
planning
work.
That's
been
done
on
on
Veterans.
E
A
couple
of
these
projects
for
Central
bench
and
North
River
have
been
deferred
largely
due
to
Staffing
capacity,
so
those
will
not
be
moving
forward
this
year,
Central
bench
we
already.
We
already
spoke
about
that
Franklin
Park
is
effectively
done,
I.
Think
there's
just
a
couple
kind
of
final
punch,
punch
list,
type
items
being
done
there
Primrose
sorry.
G
To
interrupt
you
I'm
sorry
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
we
are
working
on
construction
of
the
splash
pad
at
the
moment
and
I
believe
that
was
the
last
feature
that
was
impact
fee
funded
and
in
addition
to
that,
there
is,
as
you
saw
on
our
trip.
You
know
ongoing
construction
for
committee
members
for
that
State
Park.
So
we
should
be
done
with
the
splash
pad
here
in
the
next
few
months.
E
E
It's
all
good,
all
good
and
then,
and
then
Stuart
Gulch
another
one.
That's
been
on
the
on
the
books
for
a
while
that
one
should
be
moving
forward
this
year,
molar
like
I
mentioned
and
and
Sarah
did
there.
There
is
more
going
in
there
because
of
the
total
project
and
I'm.
Giving
rough
numbers
is
a
I
think
it's
right
around
1.5
million
dollar
project,
but
the
impact
the
funded
portion
is
just
a
little
over
one
million.
E
E
Moving
on
to
fire
collections,
really,
this
is
just
a
story
of
you
know:
the
fees
continue
to
or
collections
continue
to
increase.
There
were
no
projects
in
2022,
however,
looking
forward,
obviously
we
have
the
the
big
facility
on
the
northwest
fire
station
13.,
which
we
will
also
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
and
then
the
engine
for
that
new
station
is
also
going
to
be
partially
funded
by
impact
fees.
E
On
the
police
side.
Again
same
story
collections
were
up,
we
have
almost
paid
off
the
micro
district
and
when
I
say
payoff,
the
capital
fund
Advance
the
funds
necessary
to
complete
the
project.
E
So
there's
a
little
over
a
million
dollars,
it's
going
to
be
pain,
helping
to
pay
for
that
station
and
that
was
all
I
had
for
the
end
of
year
report.
Are
there
questions?
Oh
I,
I?
Guess
the
one
thing
that's
not
addressed
in
the
slides
but
is
in
the
in
the
book
is,
and
it's
not
in
the
slides.
Just
because
there's
really
nothing
to
talk
about.
It's
just
the
Aging
report.
E
You
know
I
think
it
was
I,
think
I
forget
which
one
it
was
last
year
that
was
getting
close,
but
obviously
projects
have
spent
it
all
down,
and
so
there's
really
nothing
that
has
any
significant
age
to
it
at
all,
as
you
could
see
in
those
aging
graphs
that
are
in
the
that
are
in
the
annual
report,
but
other
than
that.
If
there's
any
questions
happy
to
try
to
answer
them.
D
H
Two
I
think
that
one
was
for
a
motion
to
vote
as
well.
Yeah.
B
E
All
right
well,
thank
you
as
as
well
I,
guess,
just
as
a
real
quick
aside,
just
because
of
sequentially
how
it's
laid
out
in
the
in
the
memo
that
everyone
or
the
information
packet
for
the
meeting
before
we
move
on
from
to
this
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
exhibit
B,
which
was
immediately
following
the
annual
report.
E
Just
showed
the
the
change
to
Anne's
or
I
shouldn't
say
the
change.
The
update
to
Anne's
10-year
CIP
plan,
an
impact
fee
plan
that
she
put
together
last
year
in
in
February.
E
It
just
shows
the
the
update
that
we're
doing
to
re
to
reflect
the
change
of
attribution
of
fees
collected
in
Harris
North
that
aren't
going
to
North
River
that
are
instead
going
to
Southeast
Barbara
Valley
that
we
spoke
about
last
time
in
the
resulting
fees
per
residential
unit,
based
on
based
on
that
change
and
and
there's
also
a
better
map
than
I
had
at
the
glass
meeting
that
actually
emailed
around
I
believe
it
was
in
early
January,
but
just
try
to
clear
up
the
confusion
around
what
was
in
and
what
was
out
of
that.
E
That
area
that
we're
going
to
change
the
attribution
on,
but
it's
it's
basically
everything
we
spoke
about
with
and,
as
we
know
it
in
the
meeting,
I
think
it's
Hermosa,
Hills
I
believe
it
is
in
the
pravada
are
both
already
and
Southeast
Barbara
Valley.
So
it's
really
just
the
development,
primarily
it's
there
today
in
in
Harris
North,
but.
B
B
E
Well,
correct:
it's
it's
above
I
believe
what
they're
calling
the
Pinnacle
out
at
Harris
North.
So
it's
it's!
Theoretically,
we
could
have
drawn
that
that
can
that
kind
of
Northern
boundary
line
really
at
any
level.
However,
there
just
wasn't
anything
up
there
or
planned
to
be
up
there,
just
because
the
Topography
is
such
that
you
actually
start
moving
down
the
hill
a
little
bit
on
the
back
side
of
of.
H
B
Okay,
the
one
I
was
looking
at
before
the
Eastern
side
for
looking
at
it.
So
you've
got
the
I'm
just
wondering.
Did
we
push
that
basically
out
to
the
edge
of
the
Wildlife
Management
Area,
because
that
that
seems
to
me
that
that
would
be
the
future
sort
of
and
all
development
would
stop
at
that
Wildlife
Management
Area?
So
they
want
a
skinny
part.
H
E
The
point
being
we're
attributing
fees
from
areas
that
can
only
leave
their
home
by
going
through
Southeast
Barbara
Valley,
we're
crediting
it
to
Southeast
Barbara
Valley,
rather
than
North
River
I.
E
All
right
just
there's
three
projects
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
Unfortunately,
these
probably
won't
be
the
only
three
projects
that
go
over
budget
they're,
just
the
ones
that
are
in
the
that
are
being
impactly
funded
in
2023
and
where
we
have
a
very
high
confidence
that
the
the
numbers
are,
in
some
cases
meaningfully
higher
than
what
the
what
was
in
the
10-year
CIP
plan
that
we
put
together
last
year
and,
as
a
result,
we'd
like
to
re
request
an
increase.
That
only
reflects
the
increase
of
the
inflationary
adjustment.
E
Clearly,
if
we
get
into
increases
that
go
beyond
the
inflationary,
environmentally
or
the
inflationary
adjustment
we'd
have
to
you
know,
we
recalculate
all
the
impact,
fees
and
change
those.
That's
not
what
we're
contemplating
it's
just
increasing
by
the
13.1
percent
that
that
we
increase
fees
for
in
2023,
physical
2023.
E
Punch
line
is,
and
it's
better
laid
out
in
the
memo,
but
fire
station,
13
again
and
and
CIP
plan.
It
was
at
10.4
million
if
you
take
13.1
percent.
On
top
of
that,
that
adds
another
1.4
to
get
you
up
to
11.8
million.
E
On
top
of
that
is
what
I
mentioned
before,
which
is
because
10
of
the
space
is
being
used
for
police,
we're
using
some
police
impact
fees
for
that
it's
about
a
million
dollars
based
on
what
the
original
plan
dollars
were,
and
then
that
is
also
increasing
13.1
percent
to
1.2
million
dollars,
and
the
one
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is:
if
you
look
at
the
the
total
cost,
we
think
that
the
station,
which
was
in
the
plan
at
100
impact
fee
funded,
will
probably
run
right
around
15
million
dollars
plus
or
minus
a
little
bit
we're
still
refining
the
the
scope
and
design
work
to
try
to
get
that
in
as
low
as
we
possibly
can.
C
E
City
percent,
at
13
and
22
percent,
and
when
we
put
the
plan
together,
that
was
zero
percent,
so
just
wanted
to
point
out,
since
especially
the
fire
stations
were
a
somewhat
contentious
that
you
know
we're
not
trying
to
decrease
city
funding
that
we're
just
trying
to
limit
the
increase.
E
E
E
The
third
and
final
project
that
we'd
like
to
request,
increase
impact
fee
funding
for
are
the
the
Park
Central
shop,
the
maintenance
facilities
that
we're
going
to
relocate
from
Julia
Davis
parked
out
by
the
airport
that
I
mentioned
earlier,
and
this
one
was
broken
down
in
the
in
the
in
the
and
CIP
and
impact
fee
plan
into
two
parts
based
on
growth
that
was
attributable
to
the
current
10-year
period
versus
the
next
10-year
appearance.
E
These
are
very
long-lived
assets
and
they're
also
building
it
to
accommodate
future
growth
in
the
community,
and
so
it
was
sketched
out.
It
is
basically
a
6.4
million
dollar
total
project,
of
which
roughly
half
was
impactfully,
funded
and
of
that
half
that
was
further
broken
down
in
half
by,
by
which
period
we
were
talking
about
so
effectively.
A
quarter
of
the
total
cost
was
going
to
be
paid
by
current
impact
bee
collections.
E
Another
quarter
is
going
to
be
paid
by
the
next
10
years,
impact
bee
collection
and
then
the
rest
was
going
to
be
paid
for
it
by
the
city,
as
you
can
see
by
our
estimated
total
cost
and
I
just
found
out
that
that's
probably
underestimating
by
about
a
million
dollars,
we're
putting
in
a
little
bit
more
than
than
the
original
percentage
contemplated
and
it's
the
project
obviously
is
wildly
more
expensive
than
we
originally
thought
and
so
again
not
trying
to
change
the
the
project
dollars
that
are
in
the
plan,
just
adjusted
for
the
inflationary
adjustment
so
increase.
B
H
E
The
vast
vast
vast
majority
is,
is
City
dollars
and
there's,
and
just
for
your
reference,
there's
actually
no
other
outside
funding
for
this
no
grants
or
anything
like
that.
So
every
dollar,
that's
not
the
either
the
1.6
or
the
1.8
is
coming
from
city
tax
collections.
Okay,.
E
B
It's
sorry,
I
will.
B
A
I
just
want
to
confirm
the
Northwest
fire
station.
That's
off
Bogart
and
Hill
is
that
the
proposed
site.
H
F
So
hopefully
you
all
can
see
that
kind
of
in
the
center
of
the
screen
here
this
is
Bogart
and
state.
This
is
the
location
of
that
station
and
that
that
gold
color
is
kind
of
a
five
minute
response
time
from
that
station.
So
Michael
you're
familiar
with
that
kind
of
stuff.
I
am
yeah
yeah.
So
that's
that's.
The
area
it'll
cover.
C
A
You
I
appreciate
that
I
had
a
question
I
think
it's
on
page
two
of
the
memo
that
Travis
prepared
for
dfac
it.
It
talks
about
two
engines
for
growth,
one
for
each
of
the
Northwest
and
Southwest
stations.
I'm,
just
curious
or
I,
don't
see
anything
about
a
Southwest
station
engine
in
in
the
memo
so
is:
oh,
are
we
not
focused
on
that
this
year
or
I'm
just
correct.
E
Although
I'm
sure
Romeo
would
have
a
different
answer,
I
haven't
even
started
thinking
about
the
the
South
slash
South
West
station,
let
alone
the
engine
for
that
station.
So.
D
E
That
that's
multiple
years
out
in
the
plan
time
exact
timing,
TBD,
but
certainly
not
anything,
we're
contemplating
right
now
and
certainly
not
an
engine.
We've
actually
ordered.
D
B
C
B
E
I
didn't
I
was
just
gonna.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
as
a
you
know,
I'll
correct
that
era
that
I
had
in
the
in
the
city
percentage,
but
suffice
it
to
say
it's
very
small
yeah.
A
B
E
C
Has
just
reminded
me
of
my
very
first
dfac
meeting
back
when
I
guess
like.
H
C
Years
ago
now
the
guy
from
the
city
came
in
I
had
no
idea
what
was
going
on
the
guy
from
the
city
came
in
and,
and
they
said
so
last
time
you
were
here-
you
said
this
was
the
last
time
you
were
going
to
ask
for
more
money
and
now
you're
here
again
asking
for
more
money.
This
was
for
what's
the
name
of
the
park
in
southeast
by
Harris,
Ranch.
C
Yeah,
no
and
and
he
was
sweating-
and
he
got
like
so
many
questions
and
I
just
was
like
wow.
This
is
pretty
intense,
I
felt
so
bad
for
that
guy
anyway,
it
was
way
worse
than
what
you
just
had
to.
E
Experience
and
you'll
note
that
I
was
very
careful,
the
caveat
that
this
would
probably
not
be
the
only
English
that
I'd
be
asking
for
for
projects,
possibly
even
these
projects,
but
for
now
this
is
what
we
know.
We
need.
E
More
accurate,
probably
be
maybe
a
dry
erase
board.