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From YouTube: Development Impact Fee Advisory Committee
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Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 12 Noon
A
So
we'll
call
them
meeting
order
at
1206
p.m.
On
5,
11.,
first
order
of
business
is
to
go
ahead
and
approve
the
minutes
from
the
february
9th
2022
meeting.
I
hope
you
all
have
time
to
look
at
that.
What
I
did
notice
is
that
that's
all
that
was
sent
in
the
agenda
today
and
before
was
just
the
minutes,
so
you
have
really
nothing
else
in
here.
So
I'll
give
you
a
time
to
look
at
it.
A
D
Yes,
so
thank
you.
The
purpose
of
both
parts
of
the
conversation
today
is
really
just
I'm
not
coming
to
you
with
necessarily
a
firm
recommendation
that
I'm
asking
for
a
yay
or
negan,
mostly
just
wanted
to
talk
about
my
thoughts
for
how
we
look
at
the
23
fee
increases.
D
Obviously
we
didn't
do
any
fee
increases
last
year
because
we
were
building
the
plan
for
this
year
with
the
goal
that
they
would
become.
The
fees
would
become
effective.
Excuse
10-1,
as
opposed
to
when
they
actually
became
affected,
was
5-6.
D
D
D
The
intent
is
was
to
try
to
mimic
what
we
were
purchasing
in
in
the
plan.
The
reality
is,
is
it
was
pretty
complicated
and
because
we
were
changing
it
from
year
to
year,
based
on
oh
well,
there's
this
new
index
that
seems
to
track
what
we
want
a
little
bit
better.
D
Oh
yeah,
we
are
recording.
Oh,
we
are
okay,
good,
okay,
because
I
don't
know
how
to
do
that
either
so,
rather
than
us
kind
of
piece
together
these
different
indices
that
we
think
are
representative
what
most
people
in
the
in
the
in
idaho
have
done.
Actually,
I
think
ann
said
that
it's
every
single
one
of
our
clients
they've
switched
to
this
engineering
news
record
index
which
tracks
a
combination
of
different
factors.
D
D
D
But
here
you
can
see
like
what
we've
done
is
like
the
historic
metrics
and
I
just
pulled
together
some
samples
of
what
they
were.
So
you
can
see
like
each
one
is
very
different.
You
know
some
years
durable
goods
were
very
high
some
years
it
wasn't
so
high,
and
you
know
it
was
the
non-residential
construction
component
that
was
very
high.
D
I
think
what
you're
seeing
now
is
that
everything's
high,
no
matter
which
index
that
you're
looking
at
so
if
we
were
to
use
we'd,
have
to
adjust
for
the
exact
percentages,
because
these
are
just
averages
shown
here,
but
the
average
of
the
indices
we've
used
in
the
past
is
over
11
percent
for
last
year.
D
The
and
what's
throwing
that
off
too,
is
the
the
employment
co
cost
index,
which
is
a
small
component
for
parts,
not
a
small
component.
It
is
a
component
for
the
parks
which
wouldn't
be
as
applicable
and
applicable
in
a
year
like
this,
where
really
the
biggest
expenditure
that
we
have.
D
It
is
parks,
but
it's
building
that
support
facility
out
by
the
airport,
which
is
not
your
typical
parks,
construction
project,
which
gets
us
into
what
enr
is
so
enr,
and
I
apologize
that
this
was
a
repeat
here.
So
enr.
D
The
way
I
I
and
they
are
thinking
about
it
is
building
cost
index
is
probably
more
applicable
for
like
building
an
actual
building
like
a
fire
station
or
the
support
facilities.
I
was
just
referencing
versus
using
just
general
labor
rates
and
more
of
it,
which
is
probably
more
applicable
on
the
housing
er,
I'm
sorry
on
the
park
side,
you
know
greenup
costs
things
like
that
are
probably
and
you'll
see
when
we
get
to
the
index
in
a
second
here
that
the
construction
cost
index
tends
to
be
a
little
bit
lower
than
the
building
cost
index.
D
Sorry,
I'm
just
having
to
move
you
guys
off
the
screen
here,
so
I
can
actually
see
the
graph
so
for
the
year
ended
in
december.
D
You
can
see
that
the
the
building
cost
index
was
substantially
higher
than
the
construction
cost
index.
But
if
you
look
at
the
average
of
the
two
it
was
10.1.
I
think
that
the
actual
number
for
the
building
cost
index
was
around
13.
And
now,
if
you
look
at
through
april,
it's
gone
up
to
already
be
over
14
or
15..
D
So
I
mean
it's
clearly:
it's
clear
that
we're
experiencing
a
lot
of
escalated
costs
and
the
question
really
comes
down
to.
Is
it
cci?
Is
it
bci
or
is
it
a
blend
or
I
guess
the
other
question
is
or
do
we
continue
with
the
kind
of
our
mismatch
of
indices
that
we've
used
in
the
past.
A
D
So
you
can
see
it's
actually
looking
at
that
year-end
stat
and
I
know
it
looks
like
it's
january,
but
it's
actually
the
december
31st
value
that
I
have
highlighted
in
red.
It's
pretty
much
in
the
average
of
where
it
is
like
it
was
a
little
bit
higher
it
dipped.
It's
gone
up
a
little
bit
but,
unlike
I
remember,
I
think
it
was
actually
you
that
pointed
out
that
there
was
an
anomaly
in
the
data
that
I
used
in
the
data
two
years
ago
or
just
like
arbitrarily
spiked
in
december
and
then
went
back
down.
D
D
D
D
You
know
it's
that
dci,
that's
that's
higher
and
is
probably
more
reflective
of
actual
structures
or
you
know.
Is
it
a
simple
average,
which
is
all
I've
shown
here,
and
I
guess
the
other
question
would
be
or
do
we
look
at
the
the
10-year,
cip
in
aggregate
and
basically
say
okay,
well,
parks
projects
are
in
one
category.
D
The
fire
projects
and
police
are
different,
are
different,
so
get
that
relative
waiting,
so
it
might
work
out
to
be
50
50..
I
honestly
have
not
done
the
map
yet,
but
just
to
look
at
that
total
10-year
spend
and
base
the
relative
percentages
on
the
portion.
That's
parks
versus
other
and
again,
with
the
caveat
around
like
parks,
maintenance
facility
are
going
to
be
it's
not
like
a
park.
We're
building
buildings.
D
I
guess
the
final
thing
and
I
believe
I
have
a
slide
after
this
is
they
do
have
indices,
that
break
out
some
local
geographies
like
denver
and
seattle.
However,
if
you
look
at
it,
they
tend
to
fluctuate
a
little
bit
like
if
you
just
look
at,
for
example,
was
showing
this
january
22,
probably
actually
december
of
19,
but
you
know
pretty
different
numbers
between
the
gray
bar
and
the
gold
bar
the
blend.
The
average
is
the
blue
bar,
but
again
like
getting
it
in.
D
So
it
seems
like
we're,
probably
better
off,
not
going
down
the
rabbit
hole
of
trying
to
track
to
a
specific
city,
because
there
could
be
unique
circumstances
in
denver
or
seattle
and
neither
are
boise,
and
so
it
probably
seems
like
the
overall
index
either
bci
cci
is
probably
the
way
to
go
but
open
to
what
you
all
think
about
that.
Yeah.
A
A
Month,
right
so
basically
they're
kind
of
just
delayed
a
month
or
two
one's
higher
and
one's
lower
the
next
month.
It
kind
of
switches,
two
months
after
so
in
jan
20,
denver
had
a
low
bci,
but
then
it
spiked
january
over
over,
so
it
got
higher
than
both
seattle
so
kind
of
made
up
for
it.
So
I
think.
D
A
D
B
B
Is
tony,
so
are
we
looking,
then
for
just
some
guidance
for
you?
So
how
do
we?
What
are
we
thinking?
Yes,
I
mean,
I
guess.
D
In
a
perfect
world
would
be
yes,
this
seems
like
a
reasonable
approach.
We'd
be
supportive
of
something
that
would
you
know
just
blend
the
two
or
is
you
know
how
to
weight
them?
Or
I
mean
the
other
thing
corbin
to
the
point
you
were
just
making
on
the
highest
cost.
D
I
mean,
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
mean
the
fee
percentage
increases
would
be
very
high,
but
I
also
don't
think
it's
misleading
to
use
the
bci,
which
is
the
higher
of
the
two,
because
we
I
mean
four
years,
we've
known
that
we're
not
having
costs
like
for
years
and
somewhere
back
at
the
end
of
the
select
deck.
I
have
something
to
show
our
averages,
but
you
know
we've.
D
B
My
inclination
would
be
to
to
be
looking
at
that
bci
the
places
where
we're
going
to
get
trapped
on
our
increases
or
when
we
go
to
build
fire
stations
and
we
go
to
build
the
the
police
facilities
that
they
need
and,
as
you
said,
I
think
that
bci
is
going
to
track
those
because
of
the
specialty
labor
that
you
have.
I
want
to
take
a
little
closer
look
at
it
myself,
but
if
you
ask
me
what
my
gut
instinct
at
this
point
would
be
to
match
the
bcr
and.
D
I
also
apologize-
I
should
have
stated
this
explicitly
like.
I
know
that
nampa
in
particular
like
that,
is
the
one
that
they
track
like
it's,
not
in
our
combination.
It's
not.
I
mean
it's,
it's
the
higher
building
cost
index
and
I'm
I
don't
know
their
rationale,
though
I'm
sure
we
could
ask
anne,
but
I'm
guessing
it's
that
exact
thing,
which
is
all
of
our
costs,
are
going
up
double
digit
every
year.
Let's
try
to
get
something
that
captures
it
right.
D
Right-
and
I
think
the
other
thing
to
that
note
is
you
know,
we're
in
the
process.
One
of
the
things
that
came
up
as
we
were
moving
the
new
plan
through
approval
process
was
we're
potentially
going
to
change
one
of
the
park
planning
area
boundaries
based
on
it.
So,
oddly
enough,
if
you
look
at
harris
north
and
the
future
harris
east,
those
are
oddly
enough
in
the
north
river
planning
area,
and
so
some
residents
spoke
up
and
said:
hey
that
could
really
be
a
part
of
southeast
barber
valley.
D
So
all
that's
going
to
require
us
to
go
back
in
and
tweak
growth
projections
for
the
two
areas,
but
we
will
also
be
able
to
use
that
as
we're
doing
that
you
know
change
cost
estimates
things
like
that.
So
I
don't
view
this
as
a
like.
It
was
five
years
ago
a
static
shot
that
we
are
only
doing
the
annual
update
price
increases
every
year.
I
think
that
we're
going
to
be
going
in
and
to
the
extent
that
we
have
better
data
like
not
just
relying
on
an
index.
I
mean
in
some
years.
A
D
D
D
It's
unbelievable
the
amount
of
costs
that
are
coming
back,
and
these
are
things
that
we
budgeted
not
even
quite
a
year
ago.
So
last
spring,
let's,
let's
just
say,
items
that
we
budgeted
put
into
the
budget
and
they're
not
complicated
projects.
It's
things
like
a
shade
structure
at
a
park,
forty
thousand
dollars.
No,
no
that's
gonna
be
sixty
five
or
seventy
five.
Seventy
thousand
dollars.
So
I
mean
it's
just
the
the
changes
that
we've
seen
are
just
not
not
percentages.
D
D
It
wasn't
precise,
it
wasn't
necessarily
telling
you
what
the
number
would
have
been
because
there's
different
percentages
for
different
departments,
so
we
take
like.
Oh,
these
two
components
are
what
we're
using
for
fire.
These
two
components
are
what
we're
using
for
parts
we're
only
using
this
for
police,
because
it's
only
vehicles,
so
I
mean
it
was.
D
Was
all
over
the
place
as
opposed
to
like
one
clean
number?
That's
you
know,
independent
verifiable
and
the
other
thing
that
I
like
about
this
index,
whichever
one
dci
or
cci,
is
because
it's
done
monthly.
It
tends
to
capture
things
more
quickly
and
because
it
also
has
the
steel
concrete
and
lumber
components,
it's
really
capturing.
D
What
is
driving
a
lot
of
the
cost
increases
like
you
know,
I
think,
in
a
lot
of
the
aggregate
ones,
especially
ones
that
look
nationwide,
there
isn't
a
concrete
shortage,
but
when
you
look
at
like
certainly
our
area,
but
when
you
have
an
index
that
specifically
has
the
cost
of
concrete.
As
a
component
of
that,
you
know,
you're
capturing
those
costs,
and
I
just
I
feel
like
it's
a
better
index
for
what
we're
doing
again.
D
A
A
D
Yes,
you
could
look
historically
and
see
that
it
spiked
a
lot,
but
what
you
couldn't
see
yet
was
that
the
the
next
quarter's
data
was
going
to
show
that
it
came
back
down,
and
we
wouldn't
know
that
until
we
were
already,
you
know
well
through
the
process
of
actually
implementing
the
fee
increase,
as
opposed
to
this.
It's
real
time.
I
mean,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
main
numbers
are
already
out
yeah.
A
D
D
But
I
appreciate
all
the
feedback-
and
this
has
been
helpful
in
thinking
through
how
we
want
to
go
forward
and
then
the
only
other
thing
that
I
had
to
talk
about
today
is:
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
review
next
year's,
meaning
fiscal
23's
impact
fee
funded
projects,
so
just
a
couple
of
notes
as
a
standard
disclaimer.
These
most
of
these
numbers
are
based
on,
what's
in
the
report
that
and
put
together,
basically
last
summer's
values.
D
D
So
with
that
disclaimer
there's
on
the
park
side,
we've
got.
We've
got
a
couple
of
projects
for
this
year
and
I've
broken
them
down
by
a
planning
area,
whether
they're
happening
as
planned
in
the
in
the
impact
fee
plan
or
if
they're
being
delayed
and
just
the,
although
no
one
from
parks
is
here.
I
think
that
that's
actually
a
pretty
good
explanation
of
why
things
are
being
delayed.
We've
had
not
insignificant
turnover
at
parks.
Obviously,
jennifer
is
no
longer
with
us
who
developed
this
plan.
D
So
a
couple
of
the
projects
that
we
hoped
to
get
started.
We
just
don't
have
the
bandwidth
to
actually
feasibly
move
on
this
year
supply
chain
delays.
The
focus
has
been
on
clearing
projects
that,
for
example,
the
julia
davis
restroom,
which
I
think
was
budgeted
for
the
first
time.
D
Over
five
years
ago,
joking
aside,
so
the
focus
has
been
on
varying
a
lot
of
projects
like
that
versus
adding
more
kind
of
optimistic
projects
that
we're
not
going
to
get
to
are
just
going
to
sit
on
the
bus.
D
So
for
this
year,
for
I'm
sorry
for
fiscal
23,
there
are
three
regional
parks
and
the
mouse
shown
are
just
the
amounts
in
the
impact
v
plan.
The
only
thing
that
warrants
a
brief
note
is
on
parks,
maintenance,
that's
actually
in
for
1.6
million,
but
we
took
500
000
of
that
in
under
the
22
budget,
because
there
was
also
spelled
out
in
the
old
impact
fee
plan.
So
I
have
not
added
that
to
the
1.5
it's
in
this
plan.
D
It's
just
in
fact
we're
just
getting
that
1.1
billion
incremental
amount
and
then
on
the
vehicle
side,
that's
not
tied
to
a
specific
vehicle.
It's
just
the
230
grand
that
we
got
over
10
years.
It's
just
taken
a
10th
of
it
this
year
and
I
expect
I'll
do
the
same
thing.
Every
year
central
bench
is
getting
borah
park
and
north
river
is
getting
magnolia
and
gary
wing
on.
D
There
is
that
barber
valley
green
belt
connection
that
doesn't
really
make
sense
outside
of
the
alta
harris
park,
so
it
certainly
doesn't
make
sense
to
do
that
now.
I
know
that
there
are
conversations
ongoing
with
all
the
stakeholders
for
all
the
harris
in
terms
of
the
precise
timing,
but
I
can
definitively.
D
Greenbelt
connection
doesn't
need
to
be
budgeted
for
next
year.
That's
I'm
not
making
any
statement
on
when
all
the
harris
might
happen.
Just
clearly,
the
the
greenbelt
connection
isn't
gonna
happen.
Likewise,
mcdevitt
sports,
complex
is
delayed,
part
property
acquisition
and
the
central
bench
and
the
micro
bench.
Sorry,
the
micro
part
on
the
west
bench
is
being
delayed.
D
Just
again,
as
we
mentioned,
like
we've
got
to
focus
on
the
planning
efforts
for
the
ones
that
are
above
the
line
here
and,
and
then
some
of
these
have
just
been
pushed
out
of
here.
Unless
you
know
we'll
be
re-evaluating
the
24-budget
build,
so
that's
it
on
parks
on
northwest
station.
It's
it's
sorry.
D
D
D
Some
of
that
was
previously
budgeted
on
the
fire
side.
So
the
incremental
ad
is
that
9.55
that
you
see
on
the
screen
that
would
be
adding
to
the
impact
fee
rev
what
I
call
revenues
from
from
the
city's
perspective
this
year
that
space
for
officers-
I
believe
it's
about
eight
or
nine
percent
of
the
overall
square
footage
is
what
they're
setting
aside
for
the
police
officers.
So
we
just
said
all
right
if
the
total
square
footage
is
x
and
they're
getting.
D
However
many
percentage
of
it
that
works
out
to
be
how
many
square
feet
times
the
number
that
was
in
the
report
that
ann
put
together
to
come
up
with
that
million
dollars.
The
other
thing
that's
also
related
to
the
northwest
station
is
that
the
engine
for
that
station,
that's
in
the
plan
at
780..
D
That
is
not
going
to
be
adequate
to
actually
cover
the
cost
so
we'll,
but
it'll
probably
be
pretty
close
once
we
apply
the
inflation
adjustment,
so
that
is
the
the
plan
there
and
then
on
the
police
side,
the
strictly
police
side,
the
mobile
command
vehicle
that
was
budgeted,
or
that
was
in
the
plan
they'd
like
to
get
that
in
23..
D
Technically,
this
fund,
because
of
the
micro
district,
is
still
in
the
red.
However,
the
capital
fund,
the
city's
capital
fund,
is
in
a
position
to
advance
those
monies.
So
it's
it's
not
spending
into
a
deficit.
It's
just
going
to
owe
the
city
more,
which
now
that
we
have
these
higher
fees
shouldn't
take
as
long
to
pay
off.
D
And
then
total
costs,
like,
I
said,
be
about
half
a
million
bucks,
but
the
impact
view
portion
would
be
400
grand,
which
will
be
also
be
adjusted
by
the
annual
inflation
amount.
So
when
I
come
back
to
you
next
month,
I
can
I'll
do
a
brief
summary
on
the
inflation
amounts
and
also
translate
that
into
what
it
means
for
the
projects
in
23.
D
and
in
the
interest
of
not
getting
overly
precise
on
the
numbers.
I
will
probably
round
them
to
the
nearest
thousand
or
something
like
that.
So
it's
not
you
know
we're
getting
783
thousand
dollars
and
12
cents
for
this
particular
engine
or
whatever
the
math
works
out
to
be
so.
D
That
is
all
I
had
in
terms
of
comments
on
next
year's
plan.
Are
there
any
questions
on
projects
that
are
in
that
are
out
or
anything
else
for
that
matter?.
C
No,
I
was
just
gonna
thank
travis
for
his
time
and
you
know
going
over
everything
with
us.
A
I
do
have
a
question
going
back
to
the
inflation
record.
I
guess
what
index
for
you
and
end
up
using.
So
if
we
go
with
bci
and
then
in
the
future,
we
realize
boise's
not
following
that
as
closely
anymore.
It's
getting
closer
to
the
construction
cost
cci
for
the
overall.
Are
we
able
to
switch
pretty
easily
or.
D
So,
unlike
nampa
and
I'm
trying
to
see
if
I
can
actually
find
it
in
my
email
here
and
I'm.
D
Ann
sent
me
a
snippet
of
their
actual.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
their
code
or
their
impact
fee
report,
but
either
way,
because
ours
is
just
referencing
annual
inflationary
adjustments
like
we
have
in
the
past,
we're
free
to
find
a
different
index.
If
we,
if
we
find
that
this
one
is
no
longer
working
for
us
simply
because
it's
not
encoded,
it
doesn't
say
that
we
have
to
use
enr
or
any
other
index
for
that
matter.
It's
subject
to
y'all's
thinking
and
view
on.
What's
the
most
applicable,
perfect.
D
Oh
and
just
to
circle
back
one
thing
that
sarah
noted
that
she
had
made
a
point
that
for
me
to
mention
a
lot
of
sorry.
Sarah
article
that
meant
made
for
me
to
you
know
talk
about
the
cost
increases
product
shortages,
but
I
think
we
spent
enough
time
on
that,
but
the
one
thing
she
did
reference
since
I
talked
about
julie,
davis
restroom.
We
finally
got
the
permit
so
we're
finally
going
to
start
rolling
on
that
one
after,
however
many
decades,
that's
back
it's
good
to
hear.
C
A
B
A
A
D
D
So
in
past
years
I
think
we've
been
able
to
just
include
it
in
our
budget
book
and
that's
it
like
that
satisfies
the
hearing
for
increased
fees,
but
because
they're
higher
this
year,
you'd
have
to
have
a
separate
republic
here
in
that
july
to
I
believe
it
would
be
in
july.
So
we
need
to
keep
that
ball
rolling.
D
For
sure,
then,
I
honestly
don't
think,
there's
going
to
be
anything
that
pressing
I
mean
until
it
becomes
comes
out
of
nowhere
and
becomes
pressing
anything
that
pressing.
You
know
the
next
thing
is
going
to
be,
like
I
meant
alluded
to
the
change
of
the
park
planning
area
boundary.
I'm
sure
that
we
want
to
discuss
that.
D
But
that's
like
I
said
it's
relatively
simple:
it's
just
making
sure
that
the
harris
branch
adjacent
properties
are
included
in
the
southeast,
but
that
candidly
we're
probably
several
months
away
from
that.
So
that
would
probably
be
late
summer
that
that's
the
case.
You
know
because
we
would
answer
the
defect
and
have
to
go
through
planning
and
zoning
is
a
big
process
involved.
So
it's
not
going
to
happen
anytime
soon,
even
though
we're
continuing
to
advance
that.