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From YouTube: Ethics Commission Meeting - March 2023
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Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:30 PM MST
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Hello
commissioners,
as
with
common
practice,
we
omit
things
that
are
clearly
not
relevant
things
that
are
kind
of
spam
emails
that
will
receive
those
sorts
of
things
and
then
also
we
don't
go
into
too
much
detail
on
travel
requests
because
those
aren't
really
ethics
issues.
So
I'll
just
omit
those
from
the
summary,
but
the
only
email,
the
noteworthy
email
from
the
Ethics
Hotline
to
mention
is.
H
Let
them
know
that
it's
not
typical,
not
procedurally,
okay,
to
just
meet
individually
with
the
commissioner
about
official
business
and
that
if
they
wanted
to
pursue
their
question
in
a
formal
capacity,
they
were
free
to
do
so
and
they
responded
to
say
they
didn't
intend
to
submit
a
formal
inquiry,
and
that
was
the
end
of
that.
So
I
think
they
were
looking
to
just
pick
someone's
brain,
but
we
directed
them
to
the
right
policies
and
procedures
and
they
chose
not
to
pursue
it,
and
that
is
basically
the
end
of
that
summary.
H
I
Afternoon
I
am
officer
Wayne
with
the
Boise
Police.
This
is
my
exuberant
partner,
sep
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
not
only
the
canine
unit,
but
the
canine
Foundation,
it
kind
of
gets
some
clarification.
There
is
the
the
canine
Foundation
is
actually
ran
by
the
Idaho
Community
Foundation
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
aware
of
that.
I
Its
main
purpose
is
to
help
support
the
canine
unit
and
anything
that
might
be
outside
the
budget
of
the
police
department
and
so
extra
equipment
or
gear
or
stuff,
like
that
anything
to
help
the
canines
do
their
job
the
handlers
to
do
their
job
safely.
My
goal
since
joining
this
unit
about
four
years
ago,
is
to
increase
the
visibility
of
the
foundation.
I
I,
don't
know
that
it's
well
known,
so
my
goal
is
to
create
a
social
media
page
because
we
all
know
that's
a
good
way
to
reach
out
to
people
and-
and
you
know,
take
photos
of
the
officers
with
their
dogs
have
stories
of
the
backgrounds
anything
to
kind
of
engage
with
the
community.
But
we
just
want
to
make
sure
and
run
it
by
ncf,
because,
obviously
all
any
fundraising
duties
any
that
kind
of
stuff
would
be
done
off
duty.
I
However,
if
we
want
to
get
pictures
on
officers
and
the
dogs,
it's
going
to
be
obviously
on
duty
or
in
uniform
stuff
like
that,
so
we
just
kind
of
want
to
I
guess
get
the
parameters
of
of
what
that
might
entail,
secondarily
not
as
important
as
a
visibility
but
down
the
road.
We're
also
looking
at
maybe
creating
calendars
and
doing
sales
of
the
calendars
to
benefit
the
fund
as
well
so
I
guess
that
would
be
a
I.
I
Value
and
I
guess
I
should
answer
without
fully
having
the
background
of
that,
like
my
initial
thought,
is
a
yes
just
by
conversations
I've
had,
however,
I
know
that
the
foundation
has
existed
for
at
least
10
years
and
have
had
donations
rolling
in
the
whole
time.
So
I
don't
know
if
it
just
hasn't,
come
up
or
if
I'm
wrong
and
saying
yes,
so
I'm
I'm,
fully
fully
possibly
wrong
on
that.
You
might
legal
would
obviously
know
if
that's
an
employee
or
not.
J
F
Mr
chairman,
if
I
might
yes
so
I
noticed
that
there
is
a
link
on
the
BPD
site
to
the
foundation
with
a
donate
here
button.
So
I
suppose
one
of
my
questions
is
whether
the
city
has
a
social
media
policy
and
what
the
implications
might
be
relative
to
that.
That
falls
outside
the
scope
of
our
Authority
and
purview,
but
I
think
that
might
be
germane
to
the
conversation.
I
So
my
understanding
is
as
long
as
there's
not
a
city
logo
involved
in
it.
That
was
the
direction
I
got
approximately
six
months
ago
before
we
went
down
this
road.
Obviously
the
the
name
of
the
foundation
is
police,
Boise,
Police,
Canyon
foundation.
So
that's
going
to
be
in
there
it's
going
to
be
tied
to
the
police,
but
would
not
have
logos
or
other
than
obviously
the
uniforms
that
are
in
the
picture
stuff
like
that,
but
as
far
as
the
logo
on
the
page
or
anything
like
that
would
be
it'd
be
left
out
of.
F
That
mm-hmm
yeah
and
it
occurs
to
me
that
care
should
be
taken,
I
suppose
to
differentiate
right
the
foundation
and
that
particular
fund
from
the
city
and
from
the
activities
of
BPD
I
mean
it's
a
little
burglary,
I
think
on
the
BPD
site,
which
is
not
not
to
criticize
the
the
cause
or
anything
like
that.
But
if
this
does
move
forward,
I
think
that
will
be
an
area
of
particular
care
to
take.
E
E
I
For
example,
when
jarda
was
killed
in
2008
I,
believe
we
got
an
influx
of
donors
from
there
and
a
lot
of
people
would
say
this
is
for
jardo's.
You
know
memory
in
memory
of
jardo
or
whatever
so
I'm
sure
you
could
put
a
line
in
there,
but
it's
not
I.
Don't
know
that
you
can
go
I
want
this
x
number
of
dollars
to
go
to
that
dog
like
it.
C
I
I
want
to
Second
what
commissioner
Roark
said
that
on
the
social
media
site
there
ought
to
be
language
indicating
that
it
is
not
at
all
associated
with
Boise
Police
Department,
but
also
I
was
looking
at
other
foundations
similar
to
this
for
canine
units
nationally,
and
there
are
Boards
of
directors.
Is
there
a
board
of
directors
for
this
foundation
and
if
so,
are
they
officers
or
volunteers
or
how
does
that
work?
So.
I
I
My
understanding
of
the
way
it
works
is
if
a
request
for
money
is
made
is
made
by
the
lieutenant
of
the
canine
unit
and
then
ran
by
this
Advisory,
Board
and
I.
Believe
it's
the
lieutenant
of
the
unit,
the
captain
of
the
unit
and
then
there's
probably
the
deputy
chief
I
believe
and
the
a
civilian
I'm,
not
sure
I've,
heard
her
exact
title,
but
there's
I
believe
those
four
for
sure.
I
Okay
and
the
civilians
could
be
employed
as
well,
she's,
just
not
sworn,
and
they
serve
and
there
might
be
a
board
of
directors
higher.
Like
I,
said
it's
kind
of
a
weird
thing,
because
the
foundation
itself
isn't
a
non-profit
it's
under
the
umbrella
of
the
Community
Foundation,
which
is
the
non-profit
so
as
far
as
they
might
have
a
board
that
then
will
umbrella
over
the
foundation.
If
that
makes
sense,
but
I
know
the
actual
Foundation
itself,
isn't
we
haven't
filed
a
paperwork
for
it
to
be
a
non-profit,
yeah.
D
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F
I
I
just
have
one
more
question,
and
that
is
you
know
it's
very
explicit
that
at
least
in
the
the
request
for
advisory
opinion
that
the
use
of
the
funds
is
directed
toward
equipment
and
training.
And
you
know
keeping
keeping
the
dogs
up
to
date
and
equipped
to
do
their
job
is
to
the
extent
of
your
knowledge
is
the
budget
for
the
K-9
unit
and
those
activities
within
bpd's
budget
such
that
there
is
ever
any
opportunity
to.
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I
J
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A
F
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Onus
is
just
a
it's
a
training.
It's
not
it's,
not
an
acronym.
It's
just
it's
a
business
kind
of
motto:
we're
we
provide
we
manufacture
and
distribute
through
sales
training
bags
for
athletes,
firemen,
anyone
who
does
any
sort
of
pack
training
or
weighted
training.
That's
the
the
company's
main
source
of
Revenue.
E
G
G
So
my
involvement
with
the
process
has
been
through
a
variety
of
responsibilities
and
roles,
just
mainly
an
advisory
as
a
grants.
Compliance
analyst,
a
lot
of
my
job
is
to
just
make
sure
that
our
grants,
processes
follow
federal
and
state
guidelines
and
making
sure
that
all
of
that
is
is
in
is
in
place.
G
I
was
also
involved
in
some
of
the
back
or
front
end.
I
guess:
development
of
the
grant,
however,
the
the
the
development
of
the
grant
began
prior
to
me
becoming
a
city,
employee
and
working
on
this.
All
of
the
final
decisions
regarding
the
scoring
criterias
and
all
of
that
were
made
by
mayor's
office.
Personnel
I
have
that
none
of
the
applications
to
my
knowledge
have
officially
been
awarded
to
include
my
application.
A
G
C
Mr
chair
question:
the
rubric
that
is
used
to
determine
these
grants.
Is
that
open
knowledge,
because
you
would
have
specific
knowledges
to
what
the
the
grading
criteria
and
excuse
my
term
there.
The
the
grant
criteria
that
maybe
another
person
applying
for
this
would
not
have
unless
this
rubric
is,
is
open,
knowledge
and
I.
Don't
know
that,
can
you.
G
C
G
Commissioner,
the
so
all
of
the
the
grading
rubric
would
not
be
as
far
as
I
know.
It's
not
common
knowledge,
so
I
would
have
access
to
know
how
all
of
those
would
have
been
evaluated,
and
so,
knowing
the
the
grading
rubric,
none
of
the
none
of
the
rubric
that
was
developed
to
my
understanding
is
weighted
unevenly
in
that
one
question
is
not
weighted
more
than
another.
If
that
makes
sense,.
C
G
G
My
understanding
was
that
if
my
application
was
funded,
it
would
not
displace
or
or
negatively
impact,
and
that's
I
guess
what
I
meant
by
negatively
impact
any
other
application.
No
one
will
not
be
funded
because
my
application
is
funded,
if
that
makes
sense,
so
not
there's
no
risk
of
displacing
another
application
at
the
acceptance
of
this
one.
If
that
makes
sense,.
F
If
I
might
Mr
chair
all
right
done
with
that
line,
can
you
talk
a
bit
more
about
the
process
of
you
know,
building
the
the
rubric
and
approving
it?
What
was
your
role?
Was
it
specifically
to
determine
to
confirm
that
the
rubric
was
in
compliance
with
Federal
standards,
or
did
you
play
a
role
in
the
development
of
the
you
know
the
particular
assessments
that
that
constitute
the
rubric
I.
G
Was
definitely,
commissioner,
I
was
definitely
part
of
the
conversations
of
what
so
my
my
role
in
that
kind
of
varied
I
definitely
had
input
and
insight
to
like
how
to
build
a
scoring
rubric,
just
because
of
my
expertise
and
and
what
my
role
is
in
Grants.
So
I
definitely
did
advise
on
how
to
build
a
scoring
rubric
on
potential
areas
of
evaluation.
Those
types
of
things.
However,
all
of
those
final
decisions
were
made
by
marriage
personnel.
G
F
Can
you
may
not
know
the
answer
to
this,
but
I
noticed
that
part
of
the
Grant
application
form
has
some
language
about
conflicts
of
interest,
and
one
specific
phrase
in
there
is
that
the
the
expectation
of
the
standard
relative
to
conflicts
of
interest
precludes
I,
believe
it's
applicants
from
Gaining
inside
information
with
regard
to
these
activities?
That's
the
phrase
gain
inside
information
with
regard
to
these
activities.
Do
you
know
what
the
intent
or
the
meaning
of
that
phrase
is
in
that
context,.
G
F
Thank
you.
That
seems
like
a
reasonable
interpretation
of
that
phrase.
My
concern
and
I'm
not
imputing
any
intent
at
all
at
all.
Here.
Please
understand
that
is
that
I
think
a
reasonable
person
might
understand
that
phrase
in
the
way
that
that
you've
suggested,
which
I
I
think
is
probably
correct
and
understanding
your
role
in
the
process
of
the
development
of
that
rubric
to
be
precisely
that
so
I
I
have
concerns
on
those
grounds
again,
not
making
any
any
claims
at
all
about
intent.
A
G
C
Mr,
chair,
I
I
had
a
on
the
appearance
question
it's
written
here
that
back
to
dates
that
you
applied
for
this
grant
before
seeking
an
advisory
opinion
from
the
ethics
commission.
Is
that
because
somebody
told
you
that
there
isn't
a
parent
issue
or
or
why?
Why
was
the
reason
one
came
before
the
other?
Yes,.
G
That
I
was
trying
to
hide
anything
or,
or
anything
like
that,
and
so
at
that
time
it
was
requested
that
I
at
least
reach
out
to
legal
for
their
opinion
on
whether
or
not
they
thought
that
it
was
also
appropriate,
at
which
time
it
did
reach
out
to
Legal.
They
had
met
about
it
so
that
they
don't
see
an
actual
conflict
that,
but
that
it
may
or
may
not
trigger
a
apparent
conflict
and
that
they
would
just
suggest
reaching
out
to
the
ethics
commission
for
ultimate
clarification.
E
C
C
You
and
your
wife
are
the
only
employees
of
the
company,
and
you
indicated
on
this,
that
all
revenue
is
returned
to
business
operations
and
that
that
may
be
true
right
now,
but
if
the
the
business
were,
of
course,
to
to
grow
exponentially,
I
could
imagine
a
situation
in
which
that
would
not
be
true
and
and
a
benefit
of
course,
is
the
business,
and
certainly
there
are
tax
benefits
and
other
things
that
you
and
your
wife.
As
the
you
know,
the
only
two
people
on
on
this
business
would
benefit
from.
G
Yes,
so
as
it
plans
so
the
as
it
stands
now,
the
the
bit,
we
don't
have
any
payroll
expenses,
all
all
earned
revenue
from
the
small
business
goes
back
into
operations,
and
that
will
that
that's
also
the
plan
if
we
were
to
receive
the
grant
funds.
That's
also
the
plan
for
those
Grant
funds
we're
far
from
being
able
to
expand
to
payroll
expenses,
we're
just
a
small
business
that
operates
that
way.
G
E
I
agree
with
commissioner
church,
and
there
is
some
if
the
business
does
grow
and
how
you
know,
how
do
we
get
back?
How
do
you
do
you
plan
on
submitting
another
inquiry
to
the
committee,
the
Commissioners,
the
Ethics
Committee?
How
do
you
plan
on
dealing
with
this
situation
in
the
future,
because
you
technically
could
apply
for
more
grants
and
how
we
know
is
that's
going
to
cause
a
conflict
conflict
of
interest.
You
know
with
your
particular
business
you
and
your
wives.
G
Recusal
from
the
process
would
become
much
earlier
in
future
Grant
applications,
if
that
were
the
case,
I
think
that
this
situation
is
sort
of
unique.
The
arpa
funding
is
kind
of
a
a
unique
funding
type
that
just
happened
to
present
itself,
and
so
in
that
instance,
we're
dealing
with
the
Fallout
of
you
know.
The
ability
to
apply
for
that
I
have
I've
tried
to
be
as
transparent
during
this
process
as
I
can
regarding
this
and
I
would
plan
to
do
this
so
in
any
future.
E
C
G
My
last
involvement
in
the
process
there
was
not
an
exact
date.
They
were
in
the
process
of
business,
verification
no
Awards
have
been
made,
and
so,
if
my
business
were
to
be
awarded,
that
would
be
you
know
what
this
meeting
would
be
about
was
whether
or
not
we
should
accept
the
funds.
I
know
that,
through
the
verification
process,
our
business
has
already
been
contacted
by
the
program
just
just
to
verify
eligibility,
and
so
we
have
I
know
it's
at
that
point.
G
F
One
one
final
thought
for
me:
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
criteria
in
the
rubric
were
objective
or
I'm
certainly
happy
to
grant
that
as
a
stipulation,
and
that
certainly
mitigates
my
concern
about
appearances
of
of
undue
influence
to
the
benefit
of
your
your
business.
But
to
the
extent
that
you
had
any
role
in
determining
which
criteria
you
know
appeared
in
the
rubric
I
I
still
have
concerns
about
the
appearance
there.
B
B
C
A
F
F
F
Yes,
in
reference
to
the
code
section,
we
have
open
parent,
1-8-3,
open
parent,
a
close,
so
there's
either
a
there's
either
a
missing
right
hand,
parent
or
the
left.
One
shouldn't
be
there
at
all,
which
relates
to
my
other
school
marmish
concerns
here
on
page
three
section,
one
first
paragraph
therein,
the
commission
analyzed
in
the
second
line.
There
we've
got
a
reference
to
a
code
section
again,
one
eight
four,
a
enclosed
in
parentheses
and
then
above
the
block
indent
below
we.
We
have
the
word
section
with
no
parentheses
at
all.
F
F
J
E
A
J
A
A
It
seems
like
we're
stipulating
jumping
from
that
section
to
page
four
beginning
of
the
second
paragraph
here.
Well,
requester
did
confirm
that
his
business's
website
includes
references
to
his
employment
with
the
city.
They
appear
to
be
exclusively
in
the
context
of
his
biography
and
and
I
yeah.
I
guess
this
section
below
is
is
helpful
in
determining
that,
but
our
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
comfortable
with
that
kind
of
four-part
test
laid
out
there
that
the
way
that
that
website
was
worded
doesn't.
A
J
A
F
Mr,
chair,
I
I,
certainly
appreciate
and
share
your
concern.
I
mean
it
certainly
feels
like
this
is
a
matter
of
degrees
rather
than
any
anything,
that's
clear-cut
and
it
would
be
I,
think
unreasonable.
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
what
you
were
thinking
it
seems
like
it
would
be
unreasonable
to
redact
the
name
of
the
city
or
to
replace
it
with
some
generic
descriptor
right,
a
significant
municipality
in
the
state
of
Idaho
right
that
just
doesn't
seem
reasonable.
F
So
it
seems
as
though
one
approach
might
be
to
have
some
sort
of
counteracting
language
like
you've
suggested
right.
That
makes
it
very
clear
that
that
the
reference
to
the
city
is
you
know
it's
it's
incidental,
it's
historical.
It
is
not
intended
to
convey
any
kind
of
approval
or
sanctioning
or
endorsement
by
on
the
part
of
the
city
and
I
wonder
if
including
some
language
in
the
opinion
that
makes
it
very
clear
that
our
our
opinion
is
conditioned
on
any
future
imposition
of
such
requirements.
F
I
mean
that
goes
without
saying
right.
If
it's
a
requirement,
that's
required,
but
that
I
think
might
allay
some
of
our
concerns,
because
if
there,
if
there
is
something
forthcoming
that
requires
that
kind
of
use
of
counteracting
language
right,
this
is
not
an
endorsement
on
the
part
of
the
city.
This
is
not
right,
then,
that
would
that
would
help.
C
D
Commissioner,
we
do
have
a
policy
in
place
on
social
media
specifically
to
what
Vice
chair
Howard
spoke
with
there.
You
do
have
to
put
a
disclaimer
on
your
personal,
social
media
and,
unfortunately,
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
advisory
opinion.
You
are
talking
about
right
now,
so
I
can't
really
comment
on
that,
but
I
will
work
with
Doug
and
take
that
into
consideration.
While
we
are
working
through
the
employee.
A
D
A
F
I'd
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
I
move
that
the
draft
opinion
be
revised
to
include
some
language
I'm,
not
exactly
sure,
where
the
stipulates
that
there
be
an
explicit
disclaimer
on
his
biography
page
with
an
asterisk
next
to
the
name
of
the
city
and
a
note
at
the
bottom.
That
says
that
doesn't
constitute
an
endorsement
on
the
part
of
the
city
or
something
of
that
nature.
J
Mr,
chair
Commissioners,
just
roughly
while
you're
talking
I
I
penciled,
something
out
in
number
two
condition:
number
two.
On
page
three,
the
proposed
condition
number
two
to,
in
the
opinion
to
add
a
sentence
directing
the
requester
to
put
a
disclaimer
in
his
biography
section.
That
indicates
that
the
reference
to
Boise
does
not
constitute
a
an
endorsement
of
his
Services
by
the
city
and
that
I
think
that
connects
back
with
that
last
sentence
on
the
last
page,
so
moved.
If
that's
acceptable,
yeah.
A
One
of
the
other
activities
I
think
that
he
mentioned
being
involved
in
with
this
personal
business
is
giving
presentations
at
conferences
and
events.
Would
there
be
a
requirement
of
the
same
to
the
extent
anyone
in
the
audience
could
be
someone
from
within
the
city
of
Boise
limits
or
yeah
I
guess?
Would
there
be
a
requirement
that
would
that
language
be
placed
on
any
presentation
as
well.
C
Mr,
chair
and
I
mean
the
disclaimer
I
think
it's
important
I
also
think
the
language
that
commissioner
work
brought
up,
that
if
the
city
of
Boise
were
to
change
the
language
regarding
what
is
required
that
this
individual
or
any
individual
would
need
to
come
back
or
would
need
to
be
in
compliance
in
the
future.
Just
to
allow
us
the
opportunity
to
revisit
this
if,
after
all,
is
said
and
done,
there
are
certain
stipulations
beyond
that.
The
city
has
decided
to
take.
F
A
point
of
order,
if
I
might
Mr
chairman
I,
think
we
have
two
motions
before
us
and
I
think
to
approve
it
we'll
need
to
we'll
need
to
we'll
need
to
Second
and
go
through
the
full
rigmarole.
I
entertain
a
motion:
I
move
to
add
the
language
regarding
disclaimers
in
reference
to
the
city
of
Boise,
in
the
biography
as
Doug
did
such
a
nice
job
of
stating.