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A
So,
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
project
overview,
the
zoning
code
rewrite
was
planned
so
that
we
had
the
tools
that
we
could
that
we
needed
to
implement
blueprint
boise
our
boise
city,
comprehensive
plan.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
all
of
the
tools
that
we
needed
to
build
upon
our
mission
and
our
goals
and
our
strategic
priorities
as
well,
especially
as
we
have
a
new
administration
that
has
come
aboard.
A
Another
important
component
of
the
zoning
code
is
to
make
sure
that
everyone
in
the
community
is
engaged
and
can
participate
in
the
process,
so
we'll
be
working
on
that
and
making
sure
that
they
have
a
user-friendly
document
that
has
illustrations
and
is
organized
well,
so
that
they
know
how
to
find
the
information
that
they're
seeking
and
where
they
can
locate
that.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
incentivizing
great
design
and
then,
of
course,
making
sure
that
we
have
a
predictable
development
process
for
developers
residents,
as
well
as
our
elected
and
appointed
officials
as
well.
A
A
That
document
was
actually
released
in
early
2021
and
that
identified
how
we're
compe
doing
comparatively
to
other
cities
of
our
size
throughout
the
nation.
What
we're
doing
well
and
how
we
can
do
better
as
a
city
from
phase
two,
then
we've
got
to
move
on
and
we've
started
phase
three,
which
is
the
good
stuff.
That's
where
we're
actually
drafting
what
is
happening
and
we've
identified
three
different
ways
of
which
we're
going
to
do
this
and
so
module
1
we've
identified
as
our
uses.
A
A
What
are
those
dimensional
standards
that
apply
so
that
could
be
setbacks,
height
density
parking,
those
type
of
things,
then
we're
going
to
move
on
to
module
3,
which
will
be
our
final
process,
which
is
process
and
procedure,
and
that's
really
going
to
talk
about
the
administrative
process.
That's
going
to
talk
about
who
reviews
applications,
how
they
review
those
applications?
A
So
just
to
give
you
an
idea
on
a
timeline
of
what
that
looks
like
we're
kind
of
right
here
where
that
blue
mark
is
so
in,
may
we
released
our
draft
module
one
and
then
may
and
june.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
going
out
to
the
public
and
said:
how
are
we
doing?
Are
we
on
the
right
track,
and
so,
as
part
of
our
public
engagement,
we
actually
did
a
public
survey
that
was
available
online.
A
We
also
had
some
community
conversations
that
we
visited
different
areas
throughout
the
city
and
shared
our
draft
with
those
individuals,
and
then
we
also
allowed
individuals
to
schedule
one-on-one
time
with
us
and
say
come
in
and
talk
to
us
about
what
their
concerns
were.
We've
just
finished
up
with
that
we're
busy
compiling
that
information,
and
we
should
have
that
for
you
very
soon,
so
stay
tuned,
we'll
have
information
for
you
very
soon
phase
through
phase
three
is
actually
going
to
take
us
all
the
way
through
this
year.
A
So
2021
is
going
to
be
a
busy
year
of
drafting
module,
1
module,
2
module,
3
and
sharing
it
with
our
public.
Then
2022
we'll
get
down
to
the
good
stuff
and
we'll
compile
that
document.
We'll
make
sure
we
do
public
engagement
and
then
we'll
go
through
the
review
and
adoption
process
which
will
end
us
at
the
end
of
2022,
hopefully
with
the
final
zoning
code.
A
So
when
we
talk
about
some
of
those
major
milestones,
as
I
noted
earlier,
we
have
clarion
associates
as
our
consulting
partner
and
we
brought
them
aboard
in
september
of
2019
phase.
Two
was
our
first
deliverable,
which
was
our
diagnostics
report,
which
was
early
2021,
we're
going
to
be
drafting
modules,
1,
which
we
just
completed,
we're
working
on
module,
2
and
module
3
throughout
the
remainder
of
2021..
A
A
A
A
A
We
have
allowed
some
new
housing
types
to
occur
in
all
residential
zones,
so,
for
example,
under
our
current
code
we
would
be
allowed
to
do
a
single
family,
residential
dwelling,
an
accessory
dwelling
or
a
duplex
in
any
of
our
residential
zones.
We
are
actually
proposing
to
expand
that
to
allow
townhouses
so
attached
units,
as
well
as
triplexes
and
fourplexes.
A
A
We've
also
looked
at
allowing
some
small
scale
commercial
uses
in
some
of
our
residential
zones,
so
that
is
specific
to
the
r3.
So
some
of
those
really
small
scales
so
limited
food
like
a
cafe
coffee
shop
deli,
maybe
a
mercantile
some
of
those
things
that
have
made
a
lot
of
our
historic
districts.
Those
places
that
people
love.
So
we've
heard
that
pretty
regularly
that
people
wanted
that.
A
So
if
you
take
a
look
at
our
comprehensive
plan,
it
identifies
mixed-use
activity
centers
throughout
the
city,
but
we
really
didn't
have
a
zone
that
allowed
us
to
do
residential
and
commercial
together,
and
so
we
have
now
created
zones
that
not
only
do
they
allow
it,
but
they
encourage
it.
So
those
are
the
big
four
things
that
have
come
from
module
one.
A
A
That's
going
to
let
you
know
of
all
of
our
deliverables
it'll.
Also,
let
you
know
of
any
public
engagement
opportunities
so
that
you
are
aware
of
how
things
are
progressing.
What's
coming
out
of
those
engagement
activities,
and
then
we
also
have
citywide
advisory
committee
meetings.
Those
are
held
on
the
third
thursday
of
each
month,
they're
from
three
to
five,
and
we
have
a
20-member
committee.
A
Those
committee
members
are
geographically
dispersed
throughout
our
city
and
they
are
supposed
to
be
representative
of
our
entire
boise
population.
So
those
are
interesting.
Our
consulting
partner
generally
presents
some
information
and
then
they
open
it
up
to
the
committee
to
discuss
anything
that
they
might
want
to
talk
about
in
regard
to
those
items.
A
So,
as
I've
noted
before
we're
currently
drafting
module
two,
so
we're
really
talking
about
a
lot
of
those
design
standards.
So
in
the
past,
we've
talked
about
subdivision
standards,
connectivity,
those
types
of
things
and
we'll
actually
move
into
some
of
those
parking
standards.
Here
come
next
week
as
well
as
landscaping,
so
those
will
be
interesting
to
follow.
So
that's
really
the
information
that
I
have
for
you
today.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
aware
of
what's
going
on
where
we're
at
in
the
process
and
how
you
can
participate.
A
You
can
always
get
a
hold
of
myself.
We
also
have
a
project
team.
We
have
wendy
ellis
dad
or
deanna
dupuy
as
well.
We
are
welcome
or
you're
welcome
to
contact
any
one
of
us
by
telephone
or
email,
and
we
can
spend
some
time
with
you
or
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
and
see.
If
you
have
any
questions
and
then
I'll,
let
you
get
to
your
business.
C
So
with
the
new
design
guidelines-
and
things
like
that,
are
the
preservation
guidelines
going
to
be
updated
too.
A
We
are
hoping
that
not
only
will
the
guidelines
be
updated,
we're
hoping
that
they'll
become
codified,
so
that'll
be
a
discussion.
I
know
that
internally,
we've
talked
about
and
gone
back
and
forth
is
historic
preservation
so
specialized
do
we
need
to
designate
a
certain
period
of
time
just
to
focus
specifically
on
that?
A
C
And
I
have
a
follow-up
question:
the
contractor
that
the
city
is
hired.
Do
they
have
a
professional
staff
that
meets
the
secretary
of
interior
standards
for
preservation,
planning
and
architectural
historians
actually
know
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
and
then,
if
that's
not
gonna
happen
now,
is
that
something
this
city
is
going
to
make
sure
that
they
hire
professionals
that
meet
those
standards.
A
So
that's
our
excellent
question.
So,
commissioners,
I'm
not
sure
if
our
consulting
partner
has
somebody
that's
specific
on
staff.
They
have
professional
planners
legal
staff,
they're
a
really
well-designed
group,
but
above
and
beyond
our
consulting
staff.
We
also
have
us
as
internal
staff
as
well.
So
we
have
what's
called
a
technical
committee,
and
so
we
have
an
individual
from
our
legal
staff,
an
individual
from
housing.
A
We
have
historic
preservation,
and
so
we
have
both
ted
venegas
as
well
as
josh
wilson,
that
is
on
our
staff
plus
we
have
our
planning
and
zoning
director
as
well
as
a
number
of
other
people,
so
we
aren't
limited
to
a
singular
person,
so
we've
got
a
collective
knowledge
that
we're
working
with
so,
but
I
can
certainly
follow
up
and
get
back
to
you
and
let
you
know
if
our
consulting
partners
have
an
individual
on
staff,
but
my
aunt
I'm
guessing.
We
probably
do
okay.
F
F
Yeah,
we
don't
have
anything
else
on
our
schedule
for
the
work
session.
If
you
guys
have
questions
or
anything
comments,
we
can
discuss
something
but
other
than
that.
You're
free
for
20
minutes
sounds.
E
G
H
E
C
E
You
have
all
commission
members
had
a
chance
to
review
the
minutes
from
the
may
24th
2021
meeting.
Does
anyone
have
any
comments
or
changes
to
the
minutes
hearing
none?
I
will
now
take
a
motion
on
the
may
24
20
21
minutes.
E
D
I
E
E
E
Seeing
none
and
based
on
the
representation
of
the
applicant
and
lack
of
opposition
item
drh21-0021
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
I
move
that
the
consent
agenda
and
all
items
on
the
consent
agenda
be
approved,
subject
to
all
the
findings
and
conclusions
and
conditions
of
approval
agreed
upon
for
each
application.
E
D
C
E
Thank
you
and
we'll
now
move
on
to
the
remaining
items
on
the
agenda.
The
first
item
to
be
heard
tonight
is.
I
J
Okay,
madam
chair
commissioners,
thank
you
for
your
time.
Today,
I'm
going
to
be
presenting
on
drh21-00186
appeal
of
administrative
approval
to
remove
and
replace
three
windows.
The
property
is
located
in
an
r1ch
zone
in
the
historic
district,
the
expanded
north
end,
its
classification
is
contributing.
E
J
Okay,
okay,
so
just
to
reiterate,
drh
21
186
classified
as
contributing
in
the
north
end.
So
this
is
the
subject
property.
Are
you
seeing
that?
Yes,
yes,
okay,
so
this
is
the
subject:
property
2001,
north
19th
street.
It
is
on
the
corner
of
north
19th
and
dewey
street
right
here
I
put
two
red
lines
to
signify
where
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
today
in
the
area
of
interest.
J
J
J
J
What
they
were
planning
was
to
simplify
it
a
bit
and
just
put
a
single
divided
light
here,
just
a
few
small
grids,
much
simpler
than
what
is
existing
now
for
these
two
windows,
as
you
can
see,
they're
very
similar
and
how
they
appear
in
this
middle
one.
Here
they
were
doing
a
picture
window
and
two
double
hung
windows
on
each
side.
J
J
If
it
was
built
after
or
installed
after
world
war
ii,
it
would
have
been
aluminum
and
the
style
is
also
a
fairly
historic
style
that
you
don't
see
after
world
war
ii
when
they
started
switching
to
the
aluminum
sliders.
So,
as
you
can
see,
it's
got
these
true,
divided
lights
here,
really
small
panes
in
this
window
and
the
material
that
was
used
is
one
that
was
used
historically,
so
they
are
not
original
to
the
home,
but
they
were
built
or
installed
during
the
period
of
significance.
More
than
likely.
J
The
second
grounds
for
peel
was
that
the
grid
pattern
is
not
consistent
with
the
style
of
the
home,
by
which
I
believe
the
applicant
meant
it
doesn't
match
the
other
windows
in
the
home.
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
we
have
these
mini
gridded
windows
here
and
then
the
more
simple
windows
here
on
the
front
facade.
J
You
see
the
contrast
between
the
two
with
the
mini
grids
here:
lots
of
tiny
panes
of
glass
over
here
you
see
a
much
simpler,
larger
panes
of
glass
in
these
windows
and
a
different
style
staff's
response
to
that,
then,
is
that
while
they
may
not
match
the
other
windows
in
the
house,
they
do
fit
in
with
the
craftsman
and
bungalow
style.
The
historic
survey
says
that
it
is
a
craftsman
and
bungalow
architecture
type.
J
The
third
grounds
for
pill
was
that
the
applicant
would
like
to
replace
the
gridded
windows
with
non-gridded
to
make
all
the
windows
match
the
original
windows,
so
staff's
response
to
that
is
that
the
design
guidelines
do
have
a
couple
of
things
to
say
about
divided
lights.
The
first
is
that
the
use
of
true
divided
light
windows
similar
to
the
original
is
preferred.
The
second
is
that
the
use
of
true
divided
light
windows
is
preferred.
So
what
staff
interpreted
that
to
mean
is
that
the
true
divided
light
windows
should
be
maintained
wherever
possible?
J
That's
what
I
believe
these
windows
here
to
be.
They
may
not
be
original
to
the
house,
but
since
these
were
the
first
windows
that
were
installed
here,
because
the
as
the
porch
was
enclosed
and
because
it
was
done
during
the
period
of
significance,
they're
believed
to
be
the
most
original
windows
in
this
opening,
at
the
very
least,
and
that
they're
true,
divided
live
windows.
J
E
Thank
you,
michaela.
Are
there
any
questions.
C
I
just
have
to
disclose
that
I
was
contacted
by
the
city
of
boise
to
look
at
the
if
those
windows
were
within
the
period
of
significance
or
not
so
perfect,.
E
D
I
have
a
question
for
michaela.
You
mentioned
that
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
that
you
approved
of
on
the
administrative
side
said.
Oh,
I
got
to
find
it
now.
D
J
It's
specific
to
the
grids
and
the
divided
light
pattern,
and
that's
what
I
call
out
specifically.
I
know
some
of
the
public
comments
said
you
know
putting
a
steel
window
in
wouldn't
be
appropriate.
I
agree
with
that.
The
material
is
allowed
to
change
in
the
style
of
opening
is
also
allowed
to
change.
J
D
E
Okay,
thank
you
is
the
appellant
present.
I
Well,
what
I
I
guess,
the
let
me
introduce
miss
wagner
and
her
son
are
here.
Ms
wagner
has
lived
at
this
location
for
46
years,
so
she's
seen
a
lot
of
things
in
the
north
end
changing
in
and
when
we
approached
her
with
a
window
replacement.
I
F
Yes
or
makayla
can
share
it.
Okay,
her
screen.
I
You
know
how
we've
gotten
to
this
point,
but
what
we
wanted
to
share
was,
I
guess,
the
distinction
in
our
mind
from
original
construction
versus
an
enclosure
of
a
patio,
and
I
realized
you
know
that
steel
casements
were
the
thing
you
know
back
in
the
40s,
but
this
home
was
built
in
the
1900
era,
and
so
what
we
were
wanting
to
do
is
match
the
styling
of
the
windows
on
the
left,
which
are
original
as
opposed
to
the
steel
casements
on
the
right
on
this
on
this
particular
view.
I
So
we
felt
very
strongly
about
that,
because
I
mean
it,
it
seemed
to
us
to
be
the
intent
of
of
the
com.
You
know
the
preservation
guidelines
is
okay,
we're
honoring
what
was
originally
there,
and
so
you
know-
and
I
understand
about
you-
know-
an
enclosure
of
a
patio
back
in
the
40s
and,
as
I
understand
it,
that
is
important
as
well.
I
So
what
we
are
here
to
ask
for
approval
on
is
to
to
go
to
the
simpler
version
and
a
double
hung
window
in
this
opening,
so
that
it
matches
on
that
elevation
on
that
left
elevation
of
the
house,
and
so
that
really
is
the
the
premise
that
brings
us
here
tonight,
and
so
I
will
entertain
any
questions.
E
You
so
much
is
the
registered
neighborhood
association
here
to
testify.
F
It's
suzanne.
E
L
Carolyn
wagoner
2001
north
19th,
I'm
the
homeowner,
and
I
just
want
to
say
I
love
my
home.
I've
been
there
for
a
long
long
time
taking
good
care
of
it,
kept
the
integral
you
know
character
of
the
home.
L
I
love
that
it's
a
craftsman,
bungalow
style
and
the
reason
I'm
contesting
the
windows
is
because
I
want
uniform
a
uniform
appeal
from
the
curb.
So
you
know
I'm
not
trying
to
make
anything
unreasonable.
I
don't
think
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
appeal
to
make
it
look
the
same
on
the
curb
and
it's
still
craftsman
style
windows,
which
would
be
easier
for
me
as
a
senior
citizen
too,
to
clean
to
tell
you
the
truth.
Those
little
pains
are
a
pa.
I
end
to
clean,
so
that's
I
think
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
E
Okay,
mr
cali,
if
you'd
like
you
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal
or
you
can
yield
your
time,
okay
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
portion
of
the
hearing
and
we'll
consider
some
discussion,
emotion,.
D
Man,
I'm
sure
I'll,
speak
up
jim
nice
to
see
you
again
getting
to
know
you
a
little
bit.
D
The
windows
are,
are
a
significant
architectural
component
of
our
districts
and
of
our
homes,
and
sometimes
it
can
be
a
tough
one
to
to
understand
and
yeah.
I'm
in
you
know
I'm
in
the
window
business.
So
I
you.
D
But
that
doesn't
mean
everyone
gets
it.
So
I'm
I'm
looking
at
the
case
that
was
presented
in
front
of
us
and
I
don't
feel
that
staff
aired.
A
D
I
don't
think
that
it's
met
anything
in
that
criteria
for
standards
or
reviews
that
would
that
we
would
have
to
overturn
this.
So
I
can
make
a
motion
if
you
like,
or
if
there's
more
discussion,
I'm
fine
with
that
too
do.
D
H
E
Thank
you.
Do
we
need
to
have
another
motion.
E
Okay,
great
commissioner
moroney,
I'm
just
going
to
pick
on
you,
since
you
were
the
first
nay
vote.
Do
you
have
any
comments?
Yeah.
M
I
walk
by
your
house
all
the
time
I
live
near
you
and
I
love
your
house.
I
think
it's
beautiful
and,
like
you
said
you
do,
you
do
take
very,
very
good
care
of
it
and
the
material
I
see
that
you
are
replacing
the
windows
with
is
high
quality,
like
everybody
has
stated
you're
trying
to
match
the
historic
time
period
of
when
the
house
was
built
not
when
the
porch
was
built.
M
I
know
what
our
guidelines
are.
I
think
michaela
made
a
good
call,
but
again
as
a
commission,
we
get
to
look
at
things
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
and
so
we
can
say
you
know
if
we
are
going
to
follow
guidelines
or
make
an
exception,
and
I
feel
like
given
what's
presented
in
front
of
me
today.
I
would
like
to
make
the
exception.
E
Thank
you,
I
guess
I'll
add
my
thoughts
as
well
ted.
Can
you
or
michaela,
can
you
pull
up
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
with
the.
E
Thank
you
so
much
someone
when
I
read
condition
a
it
says:
replacement
windows
must
match
the
size
and
style
of
the
existing
windows,
including
the
current
grid,
divided
light
patterns,
and
then
can
you
go
to
the
proposed
slide.
I
think
it's
just
the
one
before
so
when
I
see
the
word
windows
in
that
condition.
I
am
thinking
that
it's
in
reference
to
the
other
windows
on
the
property,
because
there's
only
one
window.
E
Looking
on
the
I
mean
on
the.
What
is
that
the
other
side
of
the
house
with
the
multiple
grids
and
there's
no
other
like
that
on
the
property?
So
that's
just
my
thought,
and
so
my
interpretation
would
be
that
the
proposed
windows
are
adequate.
E
D
To
say
so,
just
some
education
on
the
windows
and
if
we
can
look
at
keep
looking
at
this
slide,
it's
perfect.
So
not
only
does
the
proposal.
D
Set
forth
show
a
different
grid
pattern,
but
we're
changing
completely
changing
the
style
of
the
windows
and
we're
talking
about
the
front
of
the
house,
which
is
historically
significant,
and
while
it
may
be
different
than
the
other
windows
in
the
house,
it
was
deemed
a
contributing
house.
With
this
addition,
and
when
you
look
at
windows,
you
have
three
sets
of
windows.
There's
actually.
D
I
guess
you
could
say
multiple
windows
in
each
in
the
two
big
groups,
with
one
window
in
the
small
face
small
side
facing
the
backyard,
but
we're
going
from
casement
windows
which
crank
open
or
swing
open
to
double
hung
windows
or
hung
windows
which
slide
up
and
down,
and
while
that
may
match
the
the
house,
I
think
it's
a
significant
departure
from
what
has
been
considered
by
the
historian.
D
Who
did
the
survey
to
be
a
contributing
part
of
the
house,
so
we're
changing
style
of
window
and
we're
changing
the
grid
pattern
and
we're
changing
the
material.
D
So
there's
a
significant
amount
of
changes
there
that
are
going
to
change
the
look
of
the
house
now
granted
it's
going
to
match
the
other
parts
of
the
house.
I
I
agree,
but
I
think,
when
we
look
at.
D
D
D
Unless
I'm
wrong,
michaela
she's
she's
already
made
a
concession
to
change
the
style
of
the
window,
but
also
keep
the
grid
pattern,
which
is
this.
This
is
probably
the
more
significant
defining
part
of
the
windows,
so
I
hope
I
don't
know
if
that
helped
clarify
my
original
motion
at
all
and
provide
the
commission
with
some
more
details.
E
C
I
would
like
something
to
say
I
agree
with
commissioner
koski
I
mean
we
have
the
standards
for
rehabilitation,
and
so
when
the
survey
was
done,
it
took
into
account
standard
three.
Each
property
shall
be
recognized
as
a
physical
record
of
its
time
placed
in
use.
Changes
that
create
a
false
sense
of
historical
development,
such
as
adding
conjectural
features
or
architectural
elements
from
other
buildings,
shall
not
be
undertaken.
Sorry
wrong,
I'm
meant
to
read
the
standard
for
it
most
properties
change
over
time.
C
C
Standard
six
also
states
that
deteriorated
historic
features
shall
be
repaired
rather
than
replace.
Personally,
I
don't
think
we
should
be
looking
at
window
replacements
here.
We
should
be
looking
at
repairing
the
window
before
we
replace
it
with
something
that's
not
compatible
with
that
house
and
then.
C
Finally,
when,
as
an
architectural
historian,
we
look
at
the
building,
we
read
the
building
and
by
adding
these
windows
that
were
not
put
in
when
the
house
is
built,
it
does
create
a
false
sense
of
history,
so
standard
three.
So
it's
it's
at
this
point.
It's
doesn't
meet
three
of
the
standards
for
rehabilitation.
D
Madam
chair,
if,
if
makayla
or
ted,
could
pull
up
the
page
that
shows
the
standards
of
review
for
appeals,
it's
page
32
in
our
packet.
D
H
D
F
D
D
E
D
Okay,
I
will
restate
my
motion
to
under
under
the
standards
of
review
for
appeals,
11-03-03
c.
D
D
E
Thank
you,
commissioner
maroney.
Would
you
like
to
make
a
motion.
M
I
guess
I
have
a
question,
so
this
is
the
appeal
right.
This
is
how
they
would
say
we
don't
like
this
decision.
We
would
like
somebody
else
to
review
it.
I
mean
I
don't
necessarily
think
that
michaela
made
an
error,
but
at
the
same
time
I
feel
like
they.
You
know
this
is
their
avenue
to
come
and
have
other
eyes
look
at
it
and
we
do
review
things
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
so
ted
like
do
they
have
another
avenue
to
have
us
look
at
it
if
they
don't
like
the
decision
like
what?
F
Madam
chair,
commissioner
maroney
you
can
you
know
this
again.
This
is
brought
before
you
that
it
is
you
know
the
main
finding
is
did
was
the
administrative
decision
in
error
or
not.
The
commission
could
certainly
determine
that
the
that
the
administrative
review
did
air
in
its
interpretation
of
the
guidelines
or
interpretation
of
the
code.
F
You
know,
so
you
could
certainly
you
kind
of
go
that
route
with
it,
so
I
otherwise
yeah
so
you're,
just
reviewing
you're
reviewing
this
and
and
looking
you
know
at
what
they
present
and
and
what
our
review
was
and
what
our
decision
was
and
then
making
that
and
as
a
commission
determining
was
the
was
the
staff
review
of
this
somehow
not
appropriate
or
an
error.
So
I
I
think
you
can
you
can
make
your
decision
within
that
within
that
that
box.
F
E
Yeah,
if
you'd
like
to
take
a
whack
at
it,.
M
On
the
basis
of
110303.09
c2,
a
5,
as
I
see
that
there
are
different
opinions
between
the
commission
in
terms
of
what
they
deem
as
appropriate
for
windows
at
this
time
and
what
michaela
staff
thought.
E
D
E
Next,
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
final
item
on
the
agenda.
This
evening,
item
number
two.
F
F
This
highlighted
is
the
an
arial
of
the
property
with
the
existing
garage
structure
as
you'll
note
it's
running
just
south,
or
it
lies
just
south
of
hill
road,
which
runs
to
the
north
office,
building
to
the
north
as
well,
an
office
building
across
the
street
with
a
residence
to
the
south.
F
F
These
are
west
and
south
elevation,
so
the
guideline
concerns
with
this
is
that
the
garage
adu
will
be
a
little
bit
over
20
feet
to
peak,
and
then
the
one-story
house
is
14
feet
to
peak.
F
However,
the
garage
is
secondary,
located
toward
the
rear
of
the
property,
and
in
this
case,
with
this
very
limited
house,
as
far
as
height
goes,
it
would
be
pretty
much
impossible
to
have
a
second
story,
adu
or
a
two-story
garage
or
any
kind
of
structure.
More
than
one
story
on
the
property
without
exceeding
the
height
of
the
house.
F
As
I
previously
mentioned,
the
grading
for
the
in
the
area
where
the
garage
is
is
about
three
feet
lower
than
the
house,
which
will
help
mitigate
some
of
that
height,
and
I
mentioned
in
the
work
session
that
it
is
a
very
strong
city
goal
to
encourage
adus
to
help
with
housing
availability,
even
in
the
historic
districts
so
where
you
know,
as
far
as
it's
still
a
case-by-case
basis.
F
With
these
situations,
you
know
what
is
the
style
and
height
of
the
house
and
what
are
they
actually
doing
with
the
the
garage
and
how
massive
is
the
garage
compared
to
the
house,
but
it
is
encouraged
by
city
leadership
that
we
take
a
look
at
these
more
closely
and
promote.
F
You
know
these
adus
on
these
type
of
properties.
E
Okay,
great
is
the
applicant
present.
G
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
ben
semple,
1450
west
bannock
street
boise,
idaho
83702
yeah,
I'm
the
applicant
standing
in
for
the
homeowner
regarding
the
this
adu
application
here
or
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
adu.
I
want
to
thank
ted
for
his
presentation.
He
did
a
good
job,
encapsulating
really
what
the
application
entails.
G
It
is
for
a
very
minor
expansion
of
the
lower
level
of
the
garage
to
provide
some
additional
storage
space
in
there.
It's
a
single
car
garage
currently
and
it's
oriented
on
the
site
where
it
has
the
required
backup
space
into
the
alley,
and
then
the
other
parking
for
the
home
is
is
up
off
the
17th
street
with
the
existing
driveway
that
was
shown
in
that
aerial
photo.
G
I
do
want
to
to
say
that
we
are
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report
and
all
conditions
of
approval
and
the
builder
and
owner
intend
to
comply
with
all
of
those
but
yeah.
It's
the
it's
really
the
the
height
that
that
ted
was
discussing
the
way
that
the
home
was
built.
It's
a
walk
up
from
the
street
level
about
two
to
three
or
three
or
four
steps.
G
Up
from
the
street
level
to
the
front
door,
and
then
that
drops
out
that
same
amount
into
the
backyard
which
then
you
can
see
on
this
there's
also
about
a
one
and
a
half
to
two
foot
high
wall.
G
You
can
see
the
block
there
next
to
the
wall
of
the
garage
against
those
pavers,
so
that
garage
sits
about
three
to
four
feet
below
the
finish
floor
below
the
existing
home
elevation
and
with
the
the
very
low
pitch
on
that
roof.
It
actually
does
have
a
little
bit
of
a
pitch
on
the
home
roof
and
it's
not
truly
flat,
and
then
there
is
a
chimney
stack
on
there
that
probably
projects
about
four
feet
above
the
roof
of
the
existing
home.
G
So
we
feel
like,
even
though
this
adu
edition
is
slightly
above
it's
about
three
feet
above
when
you
take
into
consideration
that
grade
change
that
you
know
being
well
behind
this
home.
There
has
been
an
addition
on
to
this
in
the
past,
and
you
know
with
this
being
located
where
it
is,
it's
really
not
very
visible
from
the
street.
What
these
pictures
don't
show
is
that
tree,
that's
just
over
the
left
side
of
the
the
home,
the
picture
of
the
home.
G
G
The
home
is
a
three
bedroom.
It's
only
about
1600
square
feet
single
level
and,
as
stated
in
the
staff
report,
there
is
the
potential
that
this
home
could,
in
the
future,
be
renovated
or
replaced
on
the
site.
But
I
do
know
that
the
owners
of
this
house
intend
to
live
there.
G
They
have
a
young,
family
and
they're
planning
to
live
there
for
the
foreseeable
future
and
so
they're
just
trying
to
gain
a
little
bit
more
space
usable
space
in
their
on
their
lot
without
doing
an
entire
renovation
of
the
home
itself.
So
that's
kind
of
the
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
what
we're
proposing
and
I
would
love
to
stand
for
questions
if
you
have
any.
E
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much
is
the
registered
neighborhood
association
here
to
testify.
E
Okay,
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
tonight
wishing
to
testify.
E
It
doesn't
appear
so
so,
mr
simple,
if
you'd
like
you,
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal
or
you
can
yield
your
time.
E
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
final
questions
for
ted
or
the
applicant
okay,
great
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
portion
of
the
hearing
and
before
I
entertain
a
motion
based
on
staff's
recommendations
for
approval.
I
have
absolutely
no
problem
with
this
project
and
I
will
be
voting
in
favor.
D
Maybe
a
question
for
the
commission:
you
know
we
talk
a
lot
about
the
city,
encouraging
adu
usage
and.
D
We
talk,
you
know
it's
you
mentioned
in
the
report.
Even
at
this
house
is
a
non-contributing
house
that
in
the
future
it
could
be
made
taller,
but
until
those
things
actually
happen,
I
believe
we
are
to
uphold
the
guidelines.
D
So
I
struggle
with
that
because
you
know
I
live
in
the
city,
I'm
I
live
in
a
historic
district
and
and
if
changes
are
coming,
then
that's
fine,
but
until
those
changes
come
it's
my
opinion.
We
still
have
to
uphold
the
guidelines
which
we've
been
asked
to
uphold
and
in
the
case
of
this
there's
three
significant
conditions
in
the
guidelines
that
they
go
beyond
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
read
them
since
I
have
them
out
so
in
6.1.2.
D
In
our
guidelines,
it
says
to
maintain
a
proportional
mass
size
and
height
to
ensure
that
the
accessory
building
is
not
taller
or
dwelling
unit
is
not
taller
than
the
primary
building
on
the
lot.
Well,
it
most
definitely
is
taller.
So
I
mean
it's
not
a
couple
inches,
it's
feet
taller
and
then
6.1.10.
D
D
D
I
mean
those
are
pretty
significant
points
that
we're
going
over.
So
if
we're
changing
them.
H
D
E
C
C
And,
like
commissioner
weaver
said
last
time,
we
have
no
idea
what
they're
going
to
do
with
this
accessory
dwelling
unit.
We
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
provide
extra
housing
until
that's
written
into
our
guidelines,
somehow
the
use
of
the
historic,
the
adu
I'm
following
our
guidelines.
E
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
additional
comments
or
motions.
M
M
I
don't
think
that
it
will
be
visible
from
the
street
because
the
street
is
lower
than
the
house
like
you
have
to
walk
up
to
the
house,
and
then
it
drops
off
again,
and
so
yes,
it
will
be
taller
than
the
house,
but
given
like
where
a
person
was
is
standing
looking
up
at
the
house,
I
don't
think
that
they'll
be
able
to
see
it
also
given
the
nature
of
the
law
and
what
it's
surrounded
with.
M
Yes,
it
does
about
residential,
but
it
also
abuts
commercial,
and
so
I
think,
understanding
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
I
don't
feel
like
this
is
going
to
negatively
impact
the
the
lot
or
the
feel
of
the
area,
so
I
will
be
voting
in
favor
of
it
as
staff
recommends
after
they
refuse
the
project.
E
Thank
you,
commissioner
maroni.
Would
anyone
like
to
make
a
motion.
M
Madam
chair,
commissioner
moroni,
I
move
to
approve
drh
21-0
as
long
as
they
agree
with
all
of
the
requirements
of
the
staff
laid
out.
D
E
Thank
you,
everyone.
That
concludes
our
hearing
for
this
evening.
We
will
see
you
all
next
month.
Thank
you.