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From YouTube: Historic Preservation Commission - 8/31/2020
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0:00 Work Session
0:30:00 Evening Meeting
0:43:00 DRH20-282
1:35:00 DRH20-285
2:12:00 DRH20-294
2:58:00 DRH20-313
3:23:00 DRH20-341
C
A
Commissioner,
can
everybody
hear
me?
Okay,
anybody
not
hear
me.
Okay,
ashley
brown
joins
the
commission.
Replacing
anthony
charlotte,
who
I
think
left
back
in
may
or
june,
and
ashley
will
be
a
great
addition.
She
actually
is
employed
at
the
state,
historic
preservation,
office,
shippo,
so
she'll
add
some
valuable
experience
and
knowledge
from
that
from
that
organization
that
we
work
closely
with
as
well.
So
welcome
to
commissioner
brown,
commissioner
brown,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
you
want
to
say
to
the
commission
or
if
you
do.
E
A
Let's
get
started
on
the
agenda,
I'll
just
go
through
the
agenda
and
we'll
decide
if
we're
going
to
hear
it
or
if
it's
going
to
be
on
consent.
The
first
item
drh2278
and
I
want
to
also
bring
up
that
the
agenda
numbers
on
the
packets
might
be
wrong.
We
had
to
reorganize
the
packet
and
the
agenda
numbers.
A
A
This
one,
the
applicants,
decided
to
pull
the
portion
of
the
application
concerning
the
carriage
house,
which
was
kind
of
a
controversial
portion.
Controversial
portion
of
that
application
so
and
staff
was
actually
recommending
that
the
carriage
house
not
be
demolished
that
it
remain
intact,
so
that
portion
has
been
pulled.
They
will
plan
to
come
back
with
a
new
application
later
addressing
that
part
of
the
applications
or
that
part
of
the
project.
A
A
Item
number
six
located
at
1421
east
state
street
in
the
east
end
historic
district
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
demolish
a
non-contributing
single-family
structure
and
to
construct
a
one
and
a
half
story.
Single-Family
structure
and
two-car
garage
that
one
staff
has
recommended
for
the
consent
agenda.
D
C
B
A
Item
number
six:
drh2341
item
number:
seven:
the
rh
2345
located
at
1609
9th
street
in
the
north
end
historic
district,
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
demolish
an
existing
one;
car
garage
and
construct
a
one
and
a
half
story.
Two
car
garage
with
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
above
that
is
also
recommended
for
the
consent.
A
A
And
then
item
number
eight
is
findings
of
facts
and
conclusions
of
law
for
the
item
number
drh2150
at
1521
5th
street.
If
you'll
recall,
that's
the
house
that
was
illegally
contributing
house
that
was
illegally
demolished,
so
this
is
just
coming
back
with
the
findings,
effect
and
conclusions
of
law
for
the
commission
to
review
and
approve,
so
that
would
normally
be
on
a
consent
agenda
as
well.
A
A
B
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J
B
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B
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B
C
C
B
C
B
Know
right
so
we've
got
a
clarifying
question.
Were
you
vice
chair
yeah?
Yes,
I
thought
so.
Okay,
because
we
didn't
have,
it
looks
like
it
wasn't
updated
on
the
commission
meeting,
but
so
item
number
two.
I
will
be
recusing
myself
from
so
we'll
need
a
vice
chair
to
run
the
hearing,
but
before
you
had
signed
in,
we
danielle
had
volunteered
to
do
it.
B
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B
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
commission
good
evening,
and
welcome
to
this
hybrid
meeting
of
the
boise
city,
historic
preservation,
commission,
a
few
things
to
start
out
for
the
good
of
the
order.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
this
hearing
virtually
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak.
As
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you
will
be
called
upon
and
unmuted.
A
The
capabilities
and
options
are
different,
depending
on
which
device
you're
using
if
you're
on
a
smartphone
you'll
be
limited
to
only
speaking
and
sharing
your
camera.
If
you're
on
a
computer,
you
can
share
your
webcam
or
your
screen
when
called
upon
some
laptops
might
not
have
microphone
capabilities.
A
If
you
wish
to
speak
over
the
phone
but
watch
on
your
computer,
the
phone
number
for
this
hearing
is
listed
on
the
email
you
received
when
registering
for
tonight's
hearing,
for
both
smartphone
and
computer
participation
participation.
There
are
controls
on
the
bottom
of
zoom
to
virtually
raise
your
hand
when
you
wish
to
speak
on
the
item
you're
interested
in.
A
A
After
that,
we
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
signed
up
on
the
electric
sign
up
sheet
in
advance
and
then
anyone
who
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
each
member
of
the
public,
is
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
for
testimony.
We
will
provide
a
30-second
warning
and
then
stop
you
at
three
minutes.
We
are
strict
with
this
time
as
it
is
limited
in
the
city
code.
B
Thank
you
ted.
We
are
citizen,
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
city
council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
projects
within
the
city's
historic
districts.
Any
decision
made
tonight
may
be
appealed
to
the
city
council,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
B
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify,
we
utilize
a
consent
agenda,
and
this
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report-
and
there
is
no
public
opposition,
the
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion
without
further
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will
hold
a
full
public
hearing
in
the
order
just
detailed
a
few
minutes
ago
with
staff,
applicant
neighborhood
association
and
then
public
testimony.
C
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B
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B
B
B
Sorry
about
that
item
number
seven
drh20-00345,
david
and
lisa
andrews
at
1609
north
ninth
street.
This
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
requests
to
demolish
an
existing
one-car
garage
and
to
construct
a
one
and
a
half
story,
two
car
garage
with
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
Does
the
commission
have
any
questions
on
this
matter?
B
B
B
This
is
a
discussion
and
ratification
of
findings
for
denial
for
a
project
we
heard
last
month.
So
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
take
a
motion
on
the
consent
agenda,
oh
just
kidding,
I
can
make
that
motion.
So
I'm
going
to
do
that.
I
move
that
the
consent
agenda
and
all
items
on
the
consent
agenda
be
approved,
subject
to
all
the
findings
and
conclusions
and
conditions
of
approval
agreed
upon
for
each
application.
C
L
B
K
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
commission.
The
item
before
you
is
located
at
714,
mckinley
street,
the
east
end
historic
district.
It's
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
construct
an
addition
to
the
rear
of
the
house
and
to
construct
a
two-story
garage
with
accessory
dwelling
unit
in
an
r2h
zone.
A
These
are
site
plans
provided
by
the
applicant
existing
on
the
left
proposed
on
the
right,
so
you'll
see
the
addition
on
the
right
hand,
side,
site
plan
the
addition
toward
the
back,
where
my
cursor
is
the
addition
to
the
house
and
then
the
new
garage
two-story
garage
with
adu
will
be
located
in
roughly
the
same
position
as
the
existing
access
will
now
occur
off
of
the
alley
and
it's.
The
city
is
recommending
that
the
curb
cut
and
access
off
of
mckinley
street
be
closed
and
improved
to
match
the
existing
side,
detached
sidewalk
landscape
strip.
A
Here
are
some
renderings
of
the
project,
so
you'll
see
on
the
top
different
angles
of
the
garage
from
so
this
is
from
the
south.
This
is,
as
you
would
look
at
it
from
the
back
of
the
house,
the
one
here
where
my
cursor
is,
if
you
can
see
that
is
from
the
north,
so
as
you're
looking
at
it
from
the
alley.
A
A
The
existing
garage
in
adu,
the
one,
the
unfinished
structure
is
22
feet,
6
inches,
so
staff
has
included
a
condition
of
approval
that
the
new
structure
not
exceed
the
height
of
the
existing
house
by
more
than
two
feet,
and
that
would
roughly
place
it
at
about
the
same
size
as
the
structure.
That's
been
there
for
about
20
years.
A
Staff
did
address
lot
coverage
in
the
application
and
they
that
was
that
actually
staff
calculated
the
lot
coverage
incorrectly
in
the
application.
We
had
it
at
38,
but
it
is
actually
34.
So
the
the
app
the
lot
coverage
actually
meets.
The
condition
of
approval
concerning
lot
coverage
that
it
not
exceed
35
percent
and
as
you'll
see
at
the
bottom
of
that
slide,
is
the
condition
concerning
the
the
height
of
the
adu.
K
E
A
So
whenever
there's
a
chat,
rebuilding
of
a
garage,
for
instance,
there
are
a
number
of
properties
that
do
take
access
directly
from
the
street
in
our
historic
districts.
But
when
there's
a
reconstruction
of
those
properties,
either
a
new
house
or
a
new
and
or
new
garage
that
code
section
kicks
in,
and
access
from
the
alley
then
needs
to
be
taken,
and
we
typically
require
that
curb
cut
to
be
closed
and
the
sidewalk
extended.
The
landscaping
and
the
landscape
strip
extended
as
well.
H
Commissioner,
weaver
and
ted,
I
have
a
question
you
mentioned
in
or
you
I
believe
it's
in
the
report,
but
you
didn't
mention
it
verbally
in
here.
I
don't
think
about
the
setbacks
on
the
garage
and
I
believe
it
needs
to
be
15
feet
just
drawn
at
six
feet
based
on
a
square
foot.
Can
you
comment
on
that
or
or
speak
to
that.
A
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
koski
correct.
I
believe
that
was
for
the
from
the
rear
property
line.
The
structure
is
over
a
thousand,
and
I
apologize
for
not
for
not
mentioning
that
the
structure
is
over
a
thousand
square
feet.
So,
as
such,
they
they're
they're
required
to
meet
the
standard
setbacks
for
the
zone,
so
that
would
be
15
feet.
K
K
K
N
Thank
you.
My
name
is
todd
heist
and
I
am
the
owner
of
twh
construction
to
start
things
off.
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
senior
planner
ted
vangus
he's
been
more
than
helpful,
answering
our
questions
and
guiding
us
through
the
process.
I
also
wanted
to
thank
each
one
of
you,
the
members
of
the
boise
historic
preservation
commission,
for
making
time
in
your
schedule
to
consider
our
project
this
evening.
N
You
can
leave
it
a
slide
too
for
a
second,
my
friend,
jennifer
blair,
the
interior
designer
this
project
introduced
me
to
martian
howe,
and
I
have
to
say
it's
been
my
privilege
to
work
with
these
fine
folks
on
the
project
getting
to
know
marty
and
how
it
is
clear.
They
love
the
neighborhood
and
plan
for
this
to
be
their
forever
house.
There
is
zero
intention
of
flipping
the
house
and
trying
to
make
a
quick
buck.
N
In
fact,
they
pick
this
location
because
it
is
in
the
historic
district.
They
see
the
value
of
living
in
an
area
where
there
is
oversight
and
to
protect
the
aesthetic
and
feel
with
its
alleyway
marking
the
north
boundary
of
the
east
historical
district.
The
existing
house
was
built
in
1900
and,
as
with
most
homes
of
this
period,
the
design
needs
to
be
reworked
to
meet
modern
living
standards.
N
N
The
main
house
has
one
bedroom.
Our
hope
is
to
add
a
master
suite
to
the
back
of
the
house
and
reconfigure
the
loft
from
a
one
bedroom
into
a
two.
We
will
match
all
exterior
finishes
with
like
kind
and
quality.
The
visual
impact
from
the
street
will
be
almost
non-existent,
as
the
addition
will
sit
behind
the
existing
structure.
N
N
When
marty
and
howe
bought
the
property,
the
adu
was
a
big
selling
point.
They
were
hoping
to
make
a
couple
modifications
to
the
design
and
finish
the
build
out.
They
were
told
by
the
previous
owner
that
all
they
had
to
do
was
go
down
to
the
building
department
and
get
the
permit
switched
into
their
name.
N
N
The
framing
is
subpar,
to
say
the
least,
with
significant
over
spans
or
rafters
load
points
missed
and
the
incorrect
nailing
of
hangers.
The
shear
is
suffering
from
exposure
to
the
elements
and
given
the
quality
of
the
visible
construction,
there's
no
way
anyone
would
be
willing
to
sign
off
with
any
conviction
on
the
foundation
which
we
can't
see.
N
The
decision
has
been
made
that
it'd
be
better
to
tear
down
the
existing
structure
and
to
start
over.
I
can't
fully
wrap
my
head
around
the
fact
that
the
existing
unfinished
adu
was
allowed
to
go
so
far
in
the
process
and
sit
in
its
own
finished
state
in
a
highly
visible
area,
with
essentially
no
oversight.
N
Marty
and
howe
are
open
to
suggestions
from
the
committee.
We
all
view
this
as
a
collaboration,
and
we
believe
that
we
are
all
working
together
towards
a
common
goal
now
addressing
the
site-specific
conditions
of
the
approval
starting
on
page.
I
believe
it
was
seven
of
the
planning
team
project
report
regarding
the
windows.
N
N
N
Now,
if
you,
the
committee,
feel
you
cannot
in
good
conscience,
allow
the
discrepancy
and
height
between
the
main
house
and
the
proposed
adu.
We
will
modify
the
plan
to
conform.
We
found
if
we
lower
the
garage
plate
height
to
nine
feet
and
then
change
the
main
pitch
of
the
roof.
From
a
612
to
a
412.
N
N
N
The
original
carriage
house
as
referenced
in
this
picture.
You
can
see
it
in
the
framing
where
they
kind
of
framed
around.
It
would
date
back
to
at
least
the
30s
by
the
construction
methods
and
the
posters
on
the
wall.
There
was
no
door
frame
for
an
alley
access
and
we
believe
the
curb
cut
to
be
quite
old,
if
not
original
to
the
property,
although
not
entirely
readable.
The
stamps
on
the
curb
would
date
back
to
the
current
to
the
early
1900s.
N
O
O
The
unfinished
adu
that
came
with
our
house
was
of
great
interest
and
value
to
us,
because
we
saw
the
potential
in
being
able
to
finish
and
use
it
as
an
extra
space
for
living,
as
well
as
the
possibility
of
renting
it.
The
previous
owner,
who
had
started
building
the
adu
in
2000,
told
us
we
would
just
need
to
have
the
permit
put
in
our
names
and
go
ahead
and
finish
the
project.
O
Unfortunately,
this
was
untrue
and
we
later
learned
that
the
building
was
not
only
out
of
code
but
had
not
had
most
inspections
completed.
We
were
told
it
would
be
more
cost
effective
to
remove
the
structure
and
start
over.
We
looked
upon
this
major
setback,
with
the
hope
that
we
could
redesign
the
structure
to
be
more
functional
as
a
garage
with
an
adu
above
as
well
as
create
something
that
fit
more
into
the
aesthetic
of
the
neighborhood,
as
well
as
the
style
of
our
home.
O
Each
of
us
who
owns
a
historic
home
has
a
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
all
restorations
are
conducted
with
respect
to
homes
past,
as
well
as
its
future.
I
believe
this
respect
includes
the
interior
of
the
home,
as
well
as
the
exterior
and
todd
included
some
current
interior
photos
of
our
home.
So
you
can
see
how
serious
we
are
about
this.
O
We
were
so
fortunate
to
purchase
a
home
that
had
retained
its
beautiful
fur,
flooring,
original
windows
and
gorgeous
moldings,
all
of
which
we
will
retain
and
reproduce
where
needed.
The
previous
owner
had
installed
a
few
vinyl
windows
in
an
enclosed
sunroom,
and
our
intent
has
always
been
to
replace
them
with
more
historically
accurate
windows,
which
will
happen
during
this
renovation.
O
O
I
was
recently
in
a
local
antique
store
and
came
up
on
a
gorgeous
turn
of
the
century,
fireplace
mantle
surround
that
was
for
sale.
The
shop
owner
said
a
contractor
who
was
remodeling
a
home
in
the
north
end,
brought
it
to
her
after
the
homeowner
had
asked
him
to
take
it
to
the
dump.
I
am
happy
to
let
you
know
that
I
have
purchased
the
mantle
and
it
will
be
living
in
our
home
when
our
new
fireplace
is
added.
Those
things
need
to
be
kept
with
our
homes.
O
I
could
go
on
and
on
about
how
much
we
love
our
home
and
how
grateful
we
are
for
the
opportunity
to
restore
it
for
future
generations.
Thank
you
again
for
your
time
and
consideration
of
our
project.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
creating
a
property
that
will
make
us
all
proud,
and
we
do
hope
that
we
can
have
a
conversation
this
evening
about
things
that
are
required,
things
that
you
would
like
us
to
see
us
do,
and
we
want
to
work
with
you.
Thank
you.
H
N
N
F
Man,
I'm
sure
I
have
a
question
as
well
kind
of
concerning
the
same
thing.
Do
you
feel
that
if
a
redesign
was
done
to
the
garage
where
it
was
a,
maybe
not
necessarily
a
true
two
story
where
it
was
a
story
and
a
half
that
matched
more
of
the
architecture
of
the
home,
because
right
now
the
the
garage
doesn't
necessarily
match
the
architecture
of
the
home?
F
N
N
D
K
N
I
tell
most
of
my
clients.
The
answer
is
always:
yes,
it's
just
time
and
money,
so
I
feel
that
we
can.
I
feel
we
can
come
up
with
a
design
that
would
be
acceptable
once
again,
keeping
it
within
two
feet.
The
the
other
structure
sat
there
for
over
20
years,
at
that
height
is
just
honestly
a
monstrosity,
and
if
we
were
able
to
just
even
be
there,
that
would
give
us
a
lot
to
work
with.
D
G
K
I
have
a
quick
question.
I
guess
two
questions
for
you.
One
is:
are
you
planning
on
keeping
the
weather
vein
because
I
I
don't
see
it
in
the
rendering
that
we
have
up
on
the
screen
right
now
and
the
second
question
I
you
talked
about
it,
but
could
you
restate
what
the
height
was
that
you
were
proposing
to
move
the
garage
roof
down
to
from
the
height
that
it's
shown
right
here.
N
K
A
K
D
P
There
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
zoom
meeting,
so
the
having
that
story
and
a
half
look
when
you're,
actually
in
the
upper
story
of
the
existing
building,
the
the
wall
height,
is
quite
low.
I
think
we're
at
three
feet
on
the
sidewall
so
that
they
would
decrease
the
the
living
area
quite
substantially.
F
P
K
J
It's
1204
east
state
street
boise
83712,
and
I
must
say
that
I
am
thrilled
that
somebody
has
taken
on
this
project
we've
been
driving
by
it
for
the
last
20
years.
Looking
at
it
being
unfinished,
I
think
that
the
staff
what
they
have
recommended
as
far
as
the
curb
cut
and
the
driveway,
I
think
they
should
stick
with
that.
I
think
the
curb
cut
should
be
taken
or
added
or
the
cur.
The
regular
curb
should
be
added
back
in
and
the
driveway
taken
away.
K
M
The
street
on
which
cindy
and
I
are
raising
our
son
on
mckinley,
has
been
one
of
the
most
special
places
in
the
world
for
our
family.
It's
where
leo
excuse
me
it's
where
leo
took
his
first
steps
and
we've
all
really
come
together
as
a
whole
strip
of
neighbors
to
come
and
support
and
care
for
one
another.
M
Sorry,
I
lost
my
spot,
the
main
in,
in
addition
to
being
an
eyesore
it.
It
left
us
with
a
lot
of
unanswered
question,
which
was:
how
did
it
happen?
What
kind
of
precedent
did
it
set
being
that
we're
in
a
historic
district
and-
and
most
importantly,
when
is
it
going
to
come
down?
Hal
and
marty
informed
us
that
they
had
plans
to
demo
with
the
intent
of
repurposing
the
materials
and
wanted
to
build
something
smaller
and
more
appropriate
to
scale
with
the
main
house?
We
were
absolutely
thrilled.
M
M
The
only
parking
option
for
most
homeowners
is
on
the
street
due
to
an
influx
of
st
luke's
employees,
who
use
our
neighborhood
as
their
parking
lot.
Several
of
our
neighbors
have
existing
curb
cuts
which
helps
alleviate
on-street
parking.
We
don't
have
a
garage
in
just
between
our
family,
my
mother-in-law's
and
the
kintai's.
We
there
are
several
cars,
I
think
it's
seven
or
eight
cars.
C
M
Me
seven
or
eight
cars
just
to
three
properties,
keeping
the
kintai's
existing
curb
cut
would
continue
to
alleviate
parking
congestion.
We
fully
support
the
kintai's
application
as
it
is
and
ask
for
your
support
for
the
application,
as
we
all
just
want
to
keep
our
little
corner
of
the
east
end
special.
M
N
H
The
addition
I'm
I'm
okay
with,
but
even
with
the
staff
recommendations
of
bringing
that
height
down
to
22
foot
9
inches
still
well
over
two
feet
higher
than
the
existing
home,
and
I
I
believe
strongly
and
that's
that
is
overwhelming,
and
I
I
needed
to
be
sure
I
want
to
be
shorter
than
that.
I
need
it
needs
to
be
subordinate
to
the
house
and
having
something
taller
than
a
house
isn't
going
to
do
that.
H
Also
the
setback
of
the
garage
at
six
feet
in
order
to
move
it
15
feet,
that's
going
to
move
it
closer
to
the
home
and
also
amplify
the
height
of
that
so
it'll
overwhelm
it
again
and
by
removing
the
curb
cut,
there's
also
a
significant
change.
So
and
in
order
for
these
changes
to
be
met,
I
would
like
to
see
it
redrawn
and
as
opposed
to
conditions
being
applied
to
it
and
based
on
our
guidelines,
6.1.10
an
accessory
dwelling
unit,
our
garage
that
will
visually
compete
over
power.
F
F
Like
commissioner
brown
had
mentioned
earlier
as
far
as
a
cross
gable,
I
think
that
would
be
considerably
more
acceptable
if
there
was
a
cross
cable
with
some
with
some
matching
root
pitches
at
that
12
12
range,
I
might
even
consider
having
it
that
two
feet
taller,
but
to
have
a
two
feet
taller
at
a
412
pitch
that
sits
behind
a
total
pitch
house.
It's
gonna
look
pretty
overbearing.
F
There
was
some
public
testimony
given
by.
I
believe
it
was
mr
grill
that
there
is
definitely
some
parking
concerns
along
that
street
and,
if
there's
a
way
to
alleviate
those
parking
concerns,
I
think
that
there
should
be
an
opportunity
there
in
order
to
do
so.
So
I
I
don't,
I'm
not
sure
about
the
the
the
curb
cut
that
the
staff
has
recommended.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
about
this
application.
C
F
F
From
the
street,
that's
the
first
and
that's
the
first
predominant
roof
pitch
that
you
see
is
the
1212
of
the
main
home
right
and
when
your
eye
tracks
back
towards
the
back
of
the
property,
and
you
see
a
structure
back
behind
it.
That's
what's
going
to
catch
your
eyes.
Second,
you're
not
going
to
see
the
additions
that
are
back
behind
the
house
that
are
actually
being
shaded
by
the
existing
home
with
the
12
12
roof
pitch.
H
H
H
H
H
H
That's
the
street
view
of
the
house
with
the
garage
and
back
that
completely
overpowers
it,
and
when
you
move,
when
you
move
that
garage
another
nine
feet
closer
to
the
house,
which
I
think
it
should
be
to
meet
the
setback,
it's
even
gonna
be
larger,
even
if
you
do
reduce
it
by
three
feet
in
height.
I
think
that
mass
is
significant
and
that's
the
main
reason
for
my
motion.
D
D
Have
some
comments?
Sorry,
so
I
am
not
concerned
about
the
driveway
and
the
curb
cut.
I
think
that
should
be
allowed
this
day.
The
east
end's
period
of
significance
goes
to
the
1940s
and
that
encapsules
the
transition
to
from
carriages
to
cars
and
having
a
garage,
so
I
think,
leaving
the
curb
cut
is,
in
my
my
opinion,
is
it
shows
the
transition
and
changes
of
the
neighborhood
over
its
over
time.
D
L
L
Yes,
so
I
I
kind
of
I
agree
with
commissioner
koski
and
commissioner
richter,
because
that
sets
a
precedent
for
all
future
homes
right
and
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
we
kind
of
hear
about
is
like
well.
This
house
has
done
that,
so
why
can't
we
do
it,
so
I
believe
that
koski
and
richter
are
kind
of
on
the
listening
to
that
voice.
Well,
hey
you
know
what
like
further
down
the
road.
This
might
become
an
issue
in
that
neighborhood,
but
I
do
understand
that
kind
of
grandfathered
in
perspective
right.
L
It's
been
there
for
20
years,
it's
been
like
a
22,
whatever
pitch
two
feet
above
the
actual
home,
but
still
it
sets
that
precedent
for
those
future
homes
that
are
coming
in,
so
I
think,
that's
kind
of
where
we're
kind
of
stuck
at
and
given
the
historic
climate
of
you
know.
Well,
this
is
kind
of
like
a
conversation
that
theme
that
comes
up.
I
think
I
I
agree
with
koski
and
richter
on
that.
L
As
far
as
the
curb
cut,
I'm
not
really
worried
about
that.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
some
flexibility
for
the
curbs
and
given
that
achd
owns
a
lot
of
the
roads
in
ada
county,
I
think
that
empowers
the
homeowners
to
have
that
potentiality
in
20
years.
Let's
say
to
do
a
driveway
it
or
a
little
carport
or
a
little.
L
L
So
that's
kind
of
like
my
thinking
behind
the
acceptance
of
keeping
the
curb
cut,
but
then
also
I
understand,
koski
and
richter's
president
setting,
given
you
know
the
history
of
like
well,
this
house
hasn't.
Why
can't
we
have
it?
I
think
we're
setting
a
president
with
the
house,
but
I
do
understand
the
grandfathered
kind
of
mentality
like
hey,
but
this
you
know
garage
or
center
of
the
adu
was
here
for
a
long
time.
K
We
have
to
consider
this
as
a
completely
new
application,
and
with
that
I
just
don't
see
how
we
can
accept
something
that
is
higher
than
the
existing
house
and
do
agree
with
commissioner
koski
that
it
should
be
no
higher
than
the
existing
house.
It's
a
very
dominant
structure
in
the
back
and
because
it's
offset
to
the
house
by
the
amount
that
it
is
the
roof,
is
quite
large
and
very
visible
from
the
road.
So
I
would
agree
that
that
should
be
lowered.
K
I
think
it
looks
great,
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
they're
removing
all
of
the
existing
vinyl
windows
and
replacing
them
with
windows
that
are
more
historically
sensitive.
So
with
that,
I
guess
commissioner
koski,
are
you
still
wanting
to
stick
with
your
initial
emotion,
and
so,
if
so,
then
we
can
go
ahead
and
call
roll.
H
C
L
B
B
B
B
A
A
A
A
A
A
So
staff
did
does
recommend
denial
of
this
application,
based
on
that
staff
could
get
to
a
recommendation
of
approval
on
an
extent
on
an
expansion
of
the
second
story
of
the
house.
If
it
more
closely
in,
as
stated
in
the
staff
report
more
closely
resemble
the
true
one
and
a
half,
or
maybe
even
a
partial
two-story
house,
that
included
pony
walls
and
dormers,
maybe
a
more
sl
sloped
roof
something
that
broke
up.
A
The
second
story:
walls
are
short,
there's
more
sloped
roof.
The
area
on
the
second
story
is
made
up
with
dormers
and
the
roof
lines
are
modulated
or
broken
up
and
varied
to
create
a
more
to
break
it,
to
help
break
up
that
that
appearance
of
massing
when
you're
adding
the
second
story.
So
these
are
just
examples
not
not
showing
what
something
needs
to
be
designed
as,
but
just
to
kind
of
give
an
example
of
what
what
we
talk
about
when
we're
talking
about
breaking
up
the
massing.
A
So
again,
the
areas
of
concern
massing.
The
expansion
will
create
essentially
a
full
two-story
structure
and
a
substandard
corner
lot,
with
the
adjacent
properties,
mostly
modest
one,
and
one
and
a
half
story,
structures
and
again
alternatives.
As
I
just
explained
and
showed,
examples
would
be
to
break
up
the
massing
of
that
second
story,
to
not
appear
as
a
full
two-story
addition,
but
maybe
to
appear
as
a
one-and-a-half
or
partial
two
story,
with
the
use
of
the
pony
walls
and
the
dormers
and
and
maybe
the
very
varied
roofline.
A
B
R
R
So
I
purchased
this
house
in
the
year
2000,
so
I've
lived
in
it
for
20
years.
It's
been
a
tremendous
opportunity
to
live
in
this
historic
neighborhood
and
grow
with
the
neighborhood.
When
I,
when
I
moved
there,
I
was
a
single
person.
I've
since
been
married,
and
now
I
have
two
children
that
are
nine
and
six
and
attending
longfellow
elementary.
R
So,
as
you
saw
in
the
originally
the
photo
that
you
shared
of
the
historic
home
that
occupied
the
property,
it
was
a
slightly
different
look
we've
because
we
have
an
interest
in
the
history
of
the
neighborhood
and
of
our
home.
We've
piled
through
old,
idaho
statesmen,
to
find
out
what
happened.
Why
did
the
house
change
we're
able
to
determine
that
there
was
a
fire
at
one
time
and
and
what
had
to
happen?
There
was
a
fire
in
the
second
story.
R
The
second
story
had
to
be
removed
and
then
a
kind
of
a
more
simpler
structure
was
built
in
this
place,
and
I
think
that's
why,
when
you
look
at
the
sanborn
maps,
you
see
that
there
was
a
change
from
a
wraparound
porch
to
a
smaller
porch.
So
in
an
effort
to
somehow
get
the
house
closer
back
to
the
way
originally
was
we've
already
done.
Remodels
prior
to
this
one
included
a
front
porch,
because
we
wanted
to
add
that
full
front
porch.
So
the
sandboard
map
shows
the
small
porch
you
can
see.
R
Now
there
is
a
smaller
porch,
but
leave
it
on
this
screen
here,
because
this
is
helpful
to
speak
to
so
that
accomplished
that
goal.
But
now
we
again,
we
want
to
bring
the
house
back
up
to
a
second
story
as
it
originally
was,
but
try
and
meet
the
historic
property
somewhere
in
the
middle.
You
know
going
back
to
that
original
historic
photos
is
quite
a
difficult
undertaking,
it's
a
much
more
different
design
of
house
and
what
exists
now
and
the
design
of
our
house
that
exists.
Now.
R
R
Well,
you
keep
zipping
past
it.
The
one
has
three
photographs
on
it
that
are
right
there,
so
the
house
to
the
left
so
we're
a
corner
lot.
We
only
have
one
true
neighbor
and
it's
a
true
two-story
house,
and
you
can
see
it
in
that
folder
there.
I
can
also
pull
up
the
google
map
on
my
screen,
but
the
house
to
the
left
is
a
two-tree
story
that
dwarfs
our
house
currently,
and
there
is
no.
R
I
don't
know
why
that
picture
is
not
included
in
the
pack
in
what
you
have
here,
because
these
pictures
that
you're
showing
of
homes,
none
of
them,
include
the
house
just
directly
south
of
us
shown
there,
but
you
can
see
in
the
photo
of
the
exist
the
existing
house
photo.
You
can
begin
to
see
the
beginning
of
that
roof
line
there.
So
there's
a
much
larger
structure
next
to
us
and
no
other
structure
around
we
could
possibly
have
struck
the
view
of
because
there's
large
large
trees
in
all
directions.
R
So
I
don't,
I
don't
know
if
you
were
going
to
go
to
google
maps
there,
but
that
would
be
a
way
to
be
able
to.
You
could
see
it
on
the
street
and
you
could
see
exactly
how
much
bigger
the
house
next
to
us
is
so
as
far
as
a
any
kind
of
concern
with
vue,
I
don't
know,
can't
see
how
that
would
be
an
issue.
R
B
S
S
We
specialize
in
additions
and
keeping
the
historical
look
of
the
charm
of
the
neighborhoods
in
the
north
end,
and
we
feel
that
this
is
a
great
project
for
them
to
expand
their
family,
who
have
enough
room
to
stay
in
the
community
where
they
have
been
for
20
years
and
to
enjoy
the
school
district
and
their
neighbors.
That
they've
been
with
the
structure
is
not
going
to
exceed
the
house
next
door
on
hype
directly
south
of
them.
S
P
K
Q
Q
R
K
R
R
K
S
S
I
started
with
the
company
two
and
a
half
years
ago
and
the
owner
of
the
company
isn't
available
today
to
give
you
an
exact
number
of
houses.
We've
worked
on
down
there,
but
we
current
we've
done
several
remodels
on
harrison
boulevard
and
so
and
have
had
no
problems
with
restoring
them
to
the
historical
look.
D
D
D
All
right
for
the
windows
are
you
proposing
just
one
over
one
windows?
Are
you
proposing?
It
looks
like
a
slider
window
on
that
one
and
that
current
on
the
current
screen
on
top
left
and
then
the
other
windows
are
one
over
one
windows.
So
are
you
proposing
all
one
over
ones
or
are
you
proposing
divided
light
windows.
B
B
B
F
A
A
Madam
chair,
commissioner
brown,
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
non-contributing
house,
I'm
not
sure
it.
You
know
if
you're
you're,
looking
at
what
the
property
used
to
be
and
and
it's
hard
to
tell
you
know,
they're
referencing
the
photo
with
a
queen
anne
on
it.
This
photo
this.
This
design,
in
my
opinion,
is
pretty,
doesn't
isn't
real
compatible
with
the
neighborhood.
I
don't
know
that
it
creates
a
false
sense
of
history.
To
me,
it
would
appear
as
designed
on
these
elevations
to
be
a
pretty
standard.
Second
level.
A
A
You
know
consistency
with
what's
surrounding
it,
so
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
it
would
try
to
mimic
history.
If
that's
what
you're
asking
the
the
houses
around
it
all
appear
to
be
kind
of
vernacular,
queen
anne
style,
one
and
a
half
story,
queen
anne
hot
style,
the
property
to
the
south,
which
I
apologize.
I
didn't
get
that
for
some
reason
the
photo
got
missed
in
my
in
my
presentation
is
a.
A
It
is
a
taller
house,
but
as
you
can
see,
it's
got
a
very
steep
slope
in
it
and
pony
walls
and
dormers
and
the
massing
it
doesn't
come
across
as
a
massive
two-story
home.
So
I
guess
saying
a
lot
to
your
question.
I
I
didn't
that
didn't
come
across
to
me
on
this.
It
just
appeared
to
be
a
standard
second
level
edition
that
didn't
to
me.
Try
to
address
you
know
some
of
the
massing
and
design
elements
are
fit
into
the
neighborhood.
B
Q
R
Teens
and
if
you
go
to
the
photos
of
that
you
have
of
the
house,
the
design
plans
that
are
being
created
here
are
carrying
the
what
the
house
looks
like
today:
upwards.
There
isn't
any,
maybe
feature
historic
features,
as
you
see
it
added,
because
there
aren't
necessarily
any
in
this
house
that
we
live
in
right
now
and
building
it
back
to
that
original
historic
photo
would
be
a
massive
undertaking.
That's
we
can't
afford.
So
I
guess
and
that's
another
concern
is
that
you
know,
as
I
mentioned,
we've
been
here
for
20
years.
R
We
want
to
raise
our
family
here
and
what
you're
telling
us
is
we
have
to
leave
and
what
does
that
open
the
door
for
that
opens
the
door
for
somebody
else
to
move
in
and
who
knows
what
they're
going
to
do
with
it
and
what
they'll
probably
do
with
it
is
what
people
are
doing
to
the
houses
all
around
us,
which
is
completely
demolishing
them
and
building
massive
houses.
So
how
those
are
happening
and
this
project
can't?
I
don't
understand.
R
So
I
would
I
request
more
information
from
the
north
end
neighborhood
association,
because
I
don't
think
the
information
that
she
provided
gave
me
any
context
whatsoever
as
to
why
they
are
supporting
the
denial
of
it
to
me.
We're
you're,
taking
a
family
out
of
a
house
that
we
can't
live
in
in
a
historic
nature
for
the
future.
We
are
blocking
no
views
and
we're
elevating
a
house
to
look
architecturally
the
way
it
does
today,
but
bring
it
to
a
two-story
house
which
it
originally
was
and
was
built
in
1900.
D
S
B
H
B
D
So
I
agree
that
the
houses
to
the
south-
I
mean
they
appear
to
be
more
of
a
one
and
a
half
story
house
and
the
other
houses
in
the
neighborhood
are
one
and
a
half
stories
and,
I
think,
be
more
appropriate
to
have
the
current
house
be
one
and
a
half
stories.
The
sanborn
maps
historically
show
it
was
a
one
and
a
half
story
house,
that's
what
the
one
and
a
half
in
the
corner
being
on
those
maps.
So
I
think
something
that's
in
that
realm
would
be
a
better
design.
H
Madam
cheer,
I
just
like
to
say
you
know,
I
you
know
I'm
a
homeowner
too.
I
you
know
I
want
to
have
space
for
my
family.
I
understand
putting
a
together,
a
project
can
be,
can
be
daunting.
Some
of
the
things
you
have
to
go
by,
but
as
a
as
a
commissioner
appointed
by
the
mayor,
we
need
to,
you
know,
uphold
to
what
the
guidelines.
M
H
L
I
I
would
like
to
just
kind
of
express
that
it
is
in
a
way,
somewhat
replicating
what
was
there
at
one
point
and
with
new
materials
and
unfortunately,
like
I
understand
the
the
stress
that
the
family
must
be
facing.
I
really
understand
the
you
know
the
conundrum
of
hey.
Let's,
let's
suggest
you
know
doing.
A
second
story
would
help
us
out.
I
totally
empathize,
but
unfortunately
just
because
it
it
just
falls
within
that
in
my
interpretation
of
the
standards
that
it
would
be
a
replication
of
that
piece
with
new
materials.
B
C
B
B
B
In
favor
motion
carries
thank
you.
The
next
item
on
tonight's
agenda
is
number
four
drh20-00294
bob
stefanokos,
I'm
so
sorry
at
1316
north
6th
street.
This
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
reclassify
the
contributing
single-family
structure
to
a
non-contributing
in
in
r1-ch
ted.
Can
we
please
have
the
staff
report.
A
A
A
The
applicant's
contention
for
reclassification
are
largely
that
the
original
porch
on
the
left
side
of
the
facade
was
removed
sometime
after
1949,
which
would
be
after
the
period
of
significance
for
the
district.
The
new
porch
and
entry
were
established
on
the
right
side
of
the
facade
sometime
after
1956.
A
The
outline
of
the
house
is
with
the
porch
here
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
the
entry
there
same,
1912,
1949
you'll,
see
that
you
know
more
expansion
was
added
back
here,
but
in
1956
sanborn
map
does
not
show
the
front
porch
on
this
side.
So
at
that
point
the
front
porch
was
removed
from
the
front
of
the
home
and
at
some
point
after
that,
the
entry
moved
over
to
this
side
and
then
a
new
porch
added
on
to
that
site.
A
The
seven
aspects
of
integrity,
the
applicant
in
the
packet
brings
those
up
so
the
seven
aspects
of
target
of
integrity
or
we've.
We've
shown
you
those
before
in
the
past
on
some
of
these
projects
used
by
architectural
historians,
to
help
determine
the
historic
integrity
of
a
structure
and
and
it's
for
the
city's
survey.
Material
consultants
are
hired
by
the
city
and
they
use
this
criteria
to
help
determine
the
classification
of
a
structure
or
property
in
the
historic
district.
A
Ideally,
all
seven
aspects
of
integrity
would
be
in
place
for
a
contributing
or
historic
structure,
but
that
is
not
necessarily
required.
Sometimes
only
a
couple
of
the
aspects
might
be
enough
to
establish
historic
integrity,
ideally,
and
ideally,
the
this.
Ideally,
those
seven
aspects
of
integrity
are
determined
to
be
there
or
not
by
a
professional
architectural
historian.
A
A
So
just
because
a
house
hasn't
been
maintained
well
or
the
condition
of
the
house
is
not
that
good
or
has
been
neglected
over
time
that
doesn't
make
it
non-historic.
It
just
makes
it
a
historic
house
that
hasn't
been
up
kept
up
so
anyway,
the
the
integrity
of
design,
the
integrity
of
materials
applicant
claims.
This
has
not
been
maintained
due
to
the
windows
and
some
changes
in
the
foundation,
integrity
of
workmanship
and
the
integrity
of
feeling
and
association.
A
So
the
applicant
claims
that
all
these
have
not
been
maintained
over
time,
and
that's
you
know
again.
As
I
said
here,
these
aspects
are
typically
determined
by
a
professional
architectural
historian
who
puts
together
the
surveys,
determines
you
know
how
a
house
meets
or
does
not
meet
these.
These
different
aspects.
A
There
have
been,
we
have
received
public
comment
on
the
application,
four
comments,
and
then
some
came
in
with
late
testimony.
Supporting
the
reclassification
to
non-contributing,
based
on
the
arguments
put
forth
in
the
applicant's
packet
staff
conclusion
is
that
the
staff
finds
no
error
in
the
original
inventory.
A
However,
the
sanborn
maps
were
attached
to
that
survey,
so
there's
an
indication
there
that
the
classification
of
the
property
as
contributing
was
done
with
that
knowledge,
with
with
the
the
knowledge
that
those
changes
had
occurred
on
the
front
of
the
home,
and
so
the
architectural
historian,
making
that
conclusion
when
they're
making
these
determinations
there
might
be
some
changes
that
have
occurred
on
the
home.
But
maybe
the
architectural
historian
concludes
that
the
house
still
holds
significant
elements
of
its
original
historic
character
and
that
some
of
those
changes
are
reversible
could
be
reversed.
A
If
somebody
chose
to,
for
instance,
take
the
porch
down
where
it
is
and
re-establish
the
porch
and
entry
on
the
other
side
of
the
house.
So,
though
the
alterations
did
occur
after
the
period
of
the
significance.
Those
alterations
appear
to
have
occurred
prior
to
the
survey
being
completed.
Therefore,
the
contributing
status
was
established
with
those
alterations.
A
That's
what
we
would
have
to
assume
since
the
they
were
done.
Prior
to
the
survey
and
sanborn
maps
were
included
on
the
survey.
The
site
is
not
eligible
for
the
national
register.
However,
the
structure
was
determined
to
be
contributing
by
an
architectural
historian
in
that
survey
in
1999
and
a
note
national
register
eligibility
is
not
necessarily
a
requirement
for
contributing
status
in
the
historic
districts.
Many
houses
are
not
eligible
for
the
national
register,
but
they
still
contribute
to
the
historic
district.
D
A
V
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
joshua
leonard,
madam
chair
members
of
the
commission.
My
address
is
251
east
front
street
suite
310
in
boise.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
tonight
and
thank
you
also
for
your
time
in
reviewing
the
materials
and
considering
the
applications
submitted
by
bob
and
jen
stefanikos.
V
V
V
C
V
V
V
As
covered
by
staff,
the
standards
for
classification
change
are
from
contributing
to
non-contributing
if
either
of
the
following
two
circumstances
is
present.
First
being
that
an
error
was
made
on
the
original
survey
or
if
alterations
additions
and
restorations
have
been
made,
so
the
classification
prior
to
the
change
no
longer
reflects
the
change
afterwards
or
after
the
change.
V
In
our
narrative
letter,
we
stated
that
the
stefanikos's
home
met
the
second
of
these
circumstances,
because
we
interpreted
this
to
mean
changes
have
been
made
since
the
end
of
the
period
of
significance.
Not
change
has
been
made
since
the
recommendation
made
in
the
1999
survey.
We're
not
claiming
the
changes
have
been
made
since
the
1999
survey,
and,
if
that's
the
the
interpretation,
we
don't
need
to
discuss
that.
That
element
any
further
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
move
on
and
hit
and
talk
about
the
first
one,
the
error
in
the
original
survey.
V
V
W
V
V
This
is
a
detail
of
the
first
page
of
that
survey.
This
is
the
idaho
historic
sites
inventory
and
the
detail
at
the
bottom,
where
it
says,
field
notes
and
sketches
indicates
that
the
1903
sanborn
map
was
considered
by
the
person
or
the
group,
in
this
case
arrowrock
group
that
performed
that
survey.
So
we
know
for
a
fact
that
it
was
they
at
least
considered
the
1903.
V
One,
however,
were
even
though
that
the
maps
were
attached
to
this
one
when
it
was
retrieved
from
the
city.
We
don't
know
whether
those
later
maps
accompanied
the
survey
when
it
was
first
performed
or
whether
they
were
added
after
the
fact
again.
We
just
don't
know,
and
this
uncertainty
could
result
in
a
finding
that
that
1999
survey
incorrectly
classified
this
property
as
contributing,
because
it's
only
possible
to
determine
the
dates
of
the
significant
changes
to
the
home
by
reviewing
those
later
maps.
V
That's
not
even
our
primary
argument,
though.
Our
primary
argument
is
that
it
was
in
error,
because
the
person
who
performed
that
survey
did
have
that
information
and
considered
it,
and,
despite
that
information,
all
of
which
weighed
in
favor
of
a
finding
of
non-contributing,
still
erroneously
determined
that
their
the
home
somehow
was
contributing.
V
The
determination
in
the
1999
survey
is
not
set
in
stone.
It
was
a
recommendation
made
by
a
human
being
who
was
performing
reconnaissance
surveys,
surveys
on
15
to
20
homes
each
day,
it's
possible
that
the
person
conducting
that
survey
made
a
mistake.
It's
also
possible
that
the
person
truly
believed
the
home
to
be
contributing.
We're
just
asking
the
commission
to
take
a
second
look
and
provide
a
second
opinion.
V
I
have
to
be
honest.
We
were
a
little
disappointed
with
the
staff
report.
Instead
of
giving
a
second
opinion.
The
staff
report
was
a
was
a
second
doctor
who
said
your
first
doctor.
Had
all
this
information.
I
don't
need
to
do
my
own
tests
or
examinations,
or
even
look
at
the
first
doctor's
test
and
examinations,
I'll
just
assume
that
the
first
doctor
got
it
right.
In
other
words,
it
just
wasn't
a
second
opinion
with
that
said,
we
agree
with
some
of
the
the
observations
made
in
the
staff
report.
V
The
top
one,
this
1999
historical
survey
does
not
address
the
additions
to
the
structure
of
the
removal
of
the
historic
front.
Porch.
The
staff
report
also
acknowledges
the
relocation
of
the
front
door.
I'd
like
to
note
that
it's
not
just
relocation
of
the
front
door,
it's
reorientation
of
the
front
door,
the
the
door
as
it
was
original
on
the
home,
face
forward
towards
6th
street.
V
It
now
faces
to
the
right
to
the
adjacent
property
and
then
acknowledges
construction
of
a
new
porch
determining
whether
or
not
this
home
is
contributing
or
non-contributing
requires
the
commission
to
examine
the
home
against
the
standard
for
contributing
contained
in
boise
code.
There
are
two
of
these
standards.
M
V
The
national
register
eligibility
criteria,
it
doesn't
meet
the
individually
meet
the
national
register
eligibility
criteria,
so
it
leaves
us
with
a
and
with
within
a.
There
are
two
sub
elements:
it
was
it
and
this
home
was
present
during
the
period
of
significance.
So
all
we're
left
to
examine
is
whether
the
home
possesses
historic
integrity.
V
V
V
it,
as
staff
mentioned
it
does
meet
those
two.
We
also
agreed
with
staff
that
as
few
as
two
aspects
of
integrity
could
result
in
the
finding
of
contributing,
but
it
matters
which
of
the
elements.
Those
two
are,
and
I
would
I
would.
I
would
argue
that
it
couldn't
be
these
two,
because
95
of
the
homes
in
the
north
end
would
meet
these
two
elements
of
integrity.
V
Of
this
home
has
not
been
maintained.
Most
significantly,
the
street
facade
of
this
home,
which
is
viewable
from
6th
street,
is
completely
different
from
what
it
was
during
the
period
of
significance.
Originally,
as
I
said,
the
front
port.
As
we
said,
the
front
porch
was
on
the
left
of
the
home
and
it
was
removed
sometime
after
1949.
V
It
had
no
front
porch
from
the
time
it
was
removed
until
a
porch
was
re-added
sometime
after
1956
this
time
on
the
right
side
of
the
front
of
the
home,
the
front
door
also
was
moved
and
reoriented
or
reoriented.
As
I
mentioned,
even
if
the
person
conducting
the
1999
survey
reviewed
all
of
the
sanborn
maps
that
now
are
attached
to
the
survey
he
or
she
would
not
have
known
that
the
location
of
the
front
door
had
changed.
V
Really
quickly,
when
I
want
to
hit
on
this
hit
on
this,
this
design
that
the
staff
showed,
as
you
can
see,
this,
the
areas
that
were
removed
and
added
in
red
and
then
added
or
altered
in
red
to
back.
You
can
also
see
approximate
location
of
the
door
and
the
orientation
of
the
door,
and
now,
where
it
sits
facing
onto
that
porch.
M
V
This
office,
isn't
there
staff
mentioned
windows,
we
also
mentioned
foundation.
There
are
three
different
foundation
materials
with
the
additions
to
the
home,
particularly
in
front
it's
gone
from
from
original
stone,
sandstone
to
cinder
block
and,
and
then
concrete,
and
in
both
the
front
and
rear
of
the
home.
Also
prior
to
the
the
stefanikos's
purchasing
the
home
in
2001,
the
siding
was
haphazardly
repaired
and
replaced
with
unmatched
siding
the
soffit
as
well
exhibit
i5
and
exhibit
eye
of
our
narrative,
and
then
I
really
quickly.
V
If
you
indulge
me,
I
got
a
little
excited
about
sandboard
maps.
I
graduated
with
a
degree
in
history
and
went
down
a
rabbit,
hole
of
sandboard
maps
and
sandboard
map
interpretation
and
learned
quite
a
bit.
This
is
how
it
appeared
in
the
in
the
1949
sandboard
maps,
this
property-
I've
turned
it
so
that
it's
oriented
exactly
the
way
it
was
in
the
book.
1316
6th
street.
V
The
notation
d
here
indicates
that
it's
a
private
residential
dwelling
occupied
by
not
more
than
two
families.
It
also
depicts
the
two
porches
the
front
and
back
porches
that
existed
at
the
time.
The
small
italic
one
in
the
corners
indicates
that
each
part
of
the
home
is
a
single
story,
and
then
these
small
crosses
in
the
corners
indicate
that
the
main
house
and
each
of
the
porches
and
then
also
the
two
garages
all
have
roofs
of
wood
covered
with
wood
shingles.
V
My
in
going
through
the
sandboard
maps.
I
learned
that
wood
roofs
are
almost
never
noted
unless
they
are
the
the
only
exception
to
an
otherwise
fire
resistant
building,
which
made
us
question
whether
the
home
originally
was
covered
in
wood,
siding
as
it
is
now
also
we'd
like
to
show
that
that,
as
mentioned,
it
initially
had
a
wood
roof
and
wood
shingles
and
now,
as
you
can
see,
has
asphalt,
asphalt,
shingles
and
painted
siding
the
integrity
of
workmanship
repairs
made
after
the
period
of
significance
were
performed
somewhat
haphazardly
and
with
unmatched
materials.
V
The
newer
construction
at
the
back
of
the
home,
although
less
impactful
on
a
determination
of
contributing
understandably,
was
done
very
poorly
in
the
slope
of
the
floors
in
the
home
slope.
Significant
enough
that
you
have
to
step
down
to
enter
some
of
the
rooms
again.
Integrity
of
feeling
the
scale
massing,
design,
materials
and
workmanship
of
the
home
all
have
changed,
and
although
the
home
appears
quaint,
it
has
an
out
of
character
feel
with
the
homes.
V
In
this
case,
all
of
these
changes
have
been
made
after
the
period
of
significance.
We
would
argue
that
the
the
home
doesn't
have
those
elements
of
the
integrity
necessary
to
make
it
contributing
in
this
to
this
district
and
we're
going
to
leave
this
up
for
just
a
minute.
As
I
talk
through
this,
as
I
said
earlier,
at
first
glance,
this
home
is
darling
from
a
distance.
It
appears
to
be
worthy
of
protection.
V
I'd
like
to
close
by
by
noting
that
there
were
four
emails
received
from
from
neighbors,
all
of
whom
asked
that
the
the
commission
approved
this
application,
saying
that
in
fact,
one
of
the
neighbors
actually
owns
four
homes.
I
believe
it
is
on
on
this
block.
None
of
them
believe
that
this
this
home
is
historically
significant
and
doesn't
believe
that
and
don't
believe
that
it
contributes
to
the
historical
nature
of
the
neighborhood
and
we'd.
V
M
X
Bob
stephanocos
and
I
live
at
1316,
north
sixth
street
and
good
evening,
madam
chair
and
commission
members,
I
really
need
my
wife
and
I
appreciate
you
taking
our
application
into
consideration.
I've
owned
the
home
since
2001,
so
I've
lived
there
for
19
years
similar
to
the
previous
applicant.
I
met
my
wife
actually
at
a
barbecue
at
my
home.
She
later
moved
in
after
we
got
married.
We've
had
our
two
kids
there,
our
10
year
old,
our
10
year
old
theo,
and
our
excuse
me
eight-year-old.
Daphne
we
love
our
neighborhood.
X
We
love
all
of
the
people
that
are
around
us.
Our
neighbors
we
wanna
stay
where
we
are.
We
both
are
contributing
members
to
the
city,
I'm
a
special
ed
teacher
in
the
boise
school
district,
my
wife's,
an
art
teacher
in
the
boise's
district
as
well,
and
so
what
I'm
looking
at
when
I
looked
at
this
again,
I
totally
understand
from
just
the
first
glance
the
house
is
adorable.
X
It
looks
like
it
should
be
contributing,
but
when
you
dig
deeper
and
look
at
the
ordinance
that
was
put
in
place
during
the
historic
survey,
those
ordinances
were
not
followed
by
the
professional
historian.
That
did
it,
and
I
guess
when
I
see
it
as
a
teacher
that
would
be
if
I
did
a
rubric
for
a
lesson
and
then
I
decided
after
I
gave
the
lesson
to
just
grade
it.
However,
I
wanted
to
grade
it.
X
They
have
to
follow
the
same
ordinances
that
you're
asking
us
as
citizens
to
follow,
and
I
don't
believe-
and
my
wife
does
not
believe
that
that's
been
done.
We
appreciate
the
time
of
the
city
staff.
They've
actually
admitted
that
there
were
major
changes
done
to
the
house
after
the
period
of
significance,
but
then
giving
this
professional
historian
the
opportunity
just
to
ignore
that,
and
so
what
we're
asking,
as
mr
leonard
has
said,
that
we
would
like
the
second
opinion.
X
B
X
X
The
houses
to
the
west
are
also
two-story
homes
and
then
talking
with
our
contractor,
we
will
save
a
considerable
amount
of
money
by
going
up
instead
of
going
down,
and
so
that
will
help
us
stay
in
the
location
that
we've
been
in
for
the
last
19
years
and
again
as
all
the
previous
applicants.
This
is
the
only
home
I've
ever
owned.
B
H
X
Because
when
we
after
we
got
our
drawings,
I
appreciate
the
question
and
that's
a
great
question,
but
when
we
went
to
the
level
of
going
to
our
contractor,
he
looked
at
the
pricing.
He
looked
at
what
the
cost
was
going
to
be
to
follow
those
guidelines
and
with
the
guidelines
that
we're
giving
us
we
are
able
to
take
the
roof
off.
X
We're
able
to
take
the
siding
off
we're
just
saving
some
studs
that
will
never
be
seen
again,
and
so
in
talking
with
him
and
giving
the
estimates
that
he
gave
us,
he
gave
us
two
estimates
of.
If
you
could
go
up,
it
would
be
this
amount.
And
if
you
go
down
it's
going
to
be
this
and
it
was
about
a
60
000
difference
which
is
substantial.
X
We
never
challenged
it.
We
questioned
it,
but
then,
based
on
certain
rulings
by
the
commission,
we
started
the
process
with
our
architect
back
in
19
or
sorry
2018
and
we've
gone
back
and
forth
with
with
her
on
that
and
from
the
very
beginning.
We
questioned
it.
However,
based
on
decisions
that
had
been
made
submitting
it.
Officially,
she
recommended
going
with
that
route
because
it
was
contributing
and
didn't
wanna.
Look,
that's
trying
to
challenge
it,
even
though
she's
in
full
support.
X
It's
all
been
built
around
the
front,
the
sides,
the
back
and
so
we're
looking
just
to
again,
like
I
said,
follow
the
ordinance
the
changes
were
made
after
the
period
of
significance
and
if
we're
saying
that
it's
okay
for
a
professional
architect
to
disregard
the
ordinance,
I
don't
see
how
you
you
know.
Why
are
we
following
them
as
citizens
and
that's
our
argument.
F
X
If
that's
what
it
takes,
I
mean,
and
I
would
think
as
the
board
there's
a
commission
you,
I
don't
know
why
you
guys
aren't
able
to
give
us
that
second
opinion,
whether
were
there
major
changes
to
the
front
of
the
house
since
the
period
of
significance
to
the
time
the
inventory
was
done,
we've
shown
it.
We've
shown
that
proof.
The
city
staff
has
admitted
that
those
changes
were
made.
So
again,
I'm
not
sure
why
we
would
have
to
go
anywhere
else,
but
get
your
opinion.
Your
second
opinion
of
was
the
house.
C
B
C
T
T
T
We
took
a
firm
stand
around
preservation
in
the
district
and
believe
that
it
really
supports
the
neighborhood's
values
while
we're
totally
sympathetic
to
this
applicant
and
the
applicant
before
as
far
as
growing
families
and
wanting
to
keep
people
in
the
north
end,
it's
important
to
find
that
balance
of
what
maintains
the
historical
integrity,
which
is
cited
in
the
24
reasons
for
historic
preservation.
Why
it's
good
for
your
community?
T
I
think
it's
something
that
can
come
before
the
north
end
neighborhood
association
and
hasn't
up
until
this
point.
But
I
think
of
greater
concern
is
the
request
to
reclassify
a
structure
from
contributing
to
non-contributing
tends
to
lend
itself
toward
demolition
altogether,
which
we're
not
in
support
of.
C
B
V
V
That
were
asked,
and
then
I'd
like
to
finish
up
by
discussing
the
neighborhood
association's
comments
first
as
to
the
why
why
not
proceed
as
a
with
the
existing
approval
and
talking
with
bob
and
jen
over
the
course
of
this
project
and
also
with
their
architect?
It's
not
so
much
a
cost
matter,
because
if
there
were,
if
there
was
a
benefit
to
be
to
be
gleaned
from
spending
that
extra
money,
bob
and
jen
would
spend
it
even
not,
even
though,
as
he
mentioned,
they're
teachers
they're,
not,
you
know,
they're
not.
V
To
speak,
but
they
they
would
spend
that
if
it
lent,
if
it
had
a
benefit
in
this
case,
it
doesn't
have
a
benefit
because
they
already
have
an
existing
approval
to
tear
this
house
to
its
interior
studs,
and
that
goes
also
to
the
the
neighborhood
association's
concern.
There's
going
to
be
significant
demolition
at
this
site,
regardless
of
the
outcome
of
tonight's
hearing,
because
they
already
have
a
an
approval
to
to
take
that
house
down
to
its
interior
studs
and
to
rebuild
it
it.
V
I
I'd
also
like
to
mention
that
that,
in
talking
with
bob
and
jen,
we've
talked
about
hiring
an
architectural
historian
and
doing
a
professional
resurvey.
That's
not
what
the
my
advice
to
them
was.
That's
not
what
the
code
says.
The
code
says
that
the
second
opinion
comes
from
the
historic
preservation
commission.
V
I
if
I
were
to
guess-
and
it
hasn't
they
haven't-
set
this
out
right,
but
if
I
had
to
guess
their
concern
with
doing
that,
isn't
the
result,
it's
the
extra
cost
that
would
that
they
would
bear
without
knowing
what
that
for
certain.
What
that
result
would
be.
I
that
that's
just
a
guess
on
my
part,
but
it's
from
you
know
five
or
six
months
of
knowing
bob
and
jen
and
working
with
them
on
this
project.
V
I'd
also,
lastly
like
to
mention
that,
even
if
there
was
a
new
period
of
significance
adopted
for
this
area
and
for
this
neighborhood,
this
application
is
entitled,
under
the
due
process
clause
to
consideration
under
the
period
of
significance
that
exists
on
the
date
of
their
application
and
their
application
was
filed.
While
that
created
significance
ended.
H
B
H
F
K
I
have
just
a
couple
comments
on
that.
I
agree
that
there
have
been
some
changes,
of
course,
to
the
house,
but
a
couple
of
the
points
that
have
been
discussed.
That
would
change
it
potentially
from
contributing
to
non-contributing
one,
one
of
which
is
the
design,
and
I
guess
technically,
if
you
just
think
about
the
floor
plan.
Potentially
you
could
say
that
the
design
has
changed,
but
I
don't
think
that
the
vernacular
design
of
the
house
has
changed.
K
You
can
clearly
see
where
the
foundation
has
been
changed
from
the
sandstone
to
potentially
a
concrete
foundation,
and
if
you
were
to
remove
the
newer
portions
of
the
house,
it
would
most
likely
look
go
back
to
its
original
configuration
minus
potentially
that
front,
which
I
think
was
a
port
that
was
removed
and
then
kind
of
relocated
over
to
the
side.
So
in
that
respect,
I
don't
actually
feel
that
the
historic
integrity
of
the
house
has
been
changed
and
that
it
would
still
be
a
contributing
house.
L
L
So
whatever
was
there,
it
was
considered
contributing
right
and
whoever
it
was
there
doing
that
detailed
historic
preservation
detail
at
the
moment.
I
think
they
had
some
sort
of
intuition
as
to
why
it
was
contributing.
If
you
were
to
do
that
right
now.
We'd
have
to
look
at
that
at
the
decade
of
the
1960s.
L
The
1970s
is
creeping
up
on
us,
so
you're.
Looking
at
anything
that
was
like
there
in
the
1960s
that
whole
decade
so
you're
looking
at
a
ton
of
buildings
that
are
non-contributing
right
now,
that
would
definitely
be
contributing
at
this
present
moment.
So
to
go
back
to
the
applicant's
argument
that
this
is
not
historic.
Due
to
a
false
review
is
I
totally
do
not
agree
with
that?
I
I
am
happy
that
they
are
interested
being
in
the
neighborhood
and
contributing
to
the
historic
neighborhood
in
the
north
sense
I
emphasize
being
with
teachers.
L
I'm
also
a
teacher
myself,
but
you
also
have
to
think
of
that.
You've
got
a
historic
home
in
a
historic
district,
and
you
also
need
to
think
about
that.
This
is
kind
of
it's
an
investment.
It's
also
contributing
to
what
boise
is
as
a
whole,
and
I
think
this
is
what
boise
as
a
whole.
The
city
of
boise
has
the
best.
L
L
L
B
C
B
C
B
D
C
B
A
The
roof
was
poorly
constructed
on
the
verge
of
collapse.
The
floor
system,
poorly
constructed
and
failing
the
foundation
needs
to
be
completely
replaced.
These
are
just
some
of
the
items.
Just
the
key
items
discussed.
I
think
in
the
report
and
additionally,
lifting
the
house
to
replace
the
foundation
according
to
the
reports
would
not
be
possible.
A
A
The
structure
is
classified
as
contributing
that
the
building
cannot
reasonably
meet
national
register
or
local
criteria
for
designation
of
a
historic
property
that
one
this
the
structure
does
meet
local
criteria
as
a
historic
property
as
a
contributing
structure,
demolition
of
the
building
site
or
structure
would
not
adversely
affect
the
character
of
the
district
or
adjacent
properties.
Anytime,
we
lose
a
contributing
historic
structure
in
the
historic
districts.
A
It's
an
adverse
impact
on
the
district
and
it
over
time
as
we
lose.
These
structures
degrades
the
integrity
of
the
district
that
the
owners
reasonably
demonstrated
that
rehabilitation
of
the
building
object,
cider
structure
would
not
be
economically
feasible
that
that
has
not
been
demonstrated.
So
there
hasn't
really
been
a
feasibility
study
done
that
rehabilitation.
A
So
that's
what
we
hear
a
lot
of
times
that
those
reports
are
not
submitted,
because
the
structure
simply
cannot
be
rehabilitated
because
it's
so
far
gone
plans
have
been
submitted
to
redevelop.
The
property
plans
have
not
been
submitted,
and
again
this
is
a
this
is
a
finding
that
is
often
not
met,
because
you
know
they're
coming
to
ask
for
a
demolition
of
a
contributing
structure.
A
So
that's
kind
of
a
risky
venture
to
the
commission
and
so
drafting
up
a
full
set
of
plans
by
an
architect
or
a
drafter
is
is
an
investment,
and
so
typically
they
want
to
see.
Are
they
going
to
get
their
approval
of
demolition
of
the
structure
before
they?
You
know
commit
to
paying
for
all
the
plans?
A
B
A
B
G
G
The
next
one,
the
existing
building
is
not
structurally
sound
for
renovation,
so
it's
fine
to
keep
a
building
that's
historically
relevant,
but
because
of
the
way
the
building
is,
instructed
it's
eventually
going
to
fall
down.
So
we
move
on
to
the
next
one.
The
applicants
would
like
to
reconstruct
the
facade
of
the
house,
relocate
the
house
to
the
center,
but
reconstruct
the
front
of
the
house,
using
the
pyramid
roof
and
where
did
ted
go?
There
is
a
photo
of
the
original
house.
A
G
As
you
can
see,
there's
only
aluminum
windows
all
through
the
house,
so
they
would
be
adding
new
windows
reconstruct
a
new
porch,
because
at
some
point
there
was
a
porch
you
can
see
from
the
original
photograph.
There
was
a
tiny
little
porch,
and
so
we
would
like
to
create
a
porch
similar
but
extending
to
the
well
we'll
say
the
right,
so
there's
a
little
more
porch
covered
area,
but
once
again
keeping
it
at
a
low
profile,
like
the
original.
G
G
G
G
Left
is
actually
right
up
to
the
property
line,
so
moving
it
to
the
center,
and
you
know
trying
to
keep
the
house
as
it
is
and
removing
you
know
all
the
old
elements
that
were
never
original.
The
whole
back
of
the
house
is
not
original.
It's
a
screen,
porch
the
bay
window,
although
it
looks
like
it
was
original,
was
added
at
some
time.
M
B
T
H
B
H
H
G
G
G
They
already
own
a
home
in
on
10th
street,
and
so
after
living
in
that
home
they
decided
it
was
too
small
for
their
family
and
that's
when
they
purchased
this
home.
Only
to
find
out
later
that
there
were
these
structural
problems,
you
know
pretty
much
everywhere
through
the
house,
there
is
possibly
signs
of
mold
as
well
on
the
inside
of
the
house.
So
you
know
all
the
sheetrock
are
not
sheet
rock
all
the
plaster
has
to
be
removed
and
inspect
it.
G
F
F
So
they
had
a
home
inspection
done,
so
any
of
these
structural
deficiencies
would
have
been
made
apparent
during
the
time
that
their
inspection
was
done
during
the
purchase
of
the
home.
Also,
during
the
purchase
of
the
home,
it
was
most
likely
made
apparent
that
the
home
was
a
contributing
structure
within
the
historic
district.
F
G
G
F
M
G
G
G
G
H
Yes,
ma'am
chair.
I
just
would
like
to
reiterate
my
questions
and
I
guess
we
don't
have
answers
since
the
homeowners
aren't
here,
but
the
question
would
be:
did
you
get
a
home
inspection
six
months
ago?
I
would
assume
yes,
I
would
assume
they
can't
buy
it
without
an
okayed
inspection.
I
would
also
assume
the
title
company
would
not
give
them
a
clear
title
if
the
house
was
unsafe
or
I'd
also
like
to
know
if
they
have
insured,
because
if
it
was
unsafe,
the
insurance
company
would
build
insurance.
H
M
H
D
G
No,
I
don't
we
don't
know
the
other
option
that
we'd
be
willing
to
work
with
is
to
you
know,
go
through
and
find
out
what
happened
with
the
inspection
and
resubmit
with
plans
for
a
new
house.
But
originally
we
didn't
want
to
go
to
the
expense
of
you
know,
designing
a
house
knowing
that
it
was
going
to
go
away
so
sure,
I'm
talking
too
much.
B
B
B
H
H
H
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
koski.
I
will
add
that
I
will
I'm
sorry
the
public
portion
of
the
hearing
is
closed.
I
will
add
that
I
we
only
have
a
handful
of
contributing
structures
left
and
this
does
not
meet
findings,
so
that
in
and
of
itself
is
enough
for
me
to
be
voting
to
deny
this
application.
So
excuse
me
victoria.
Would
you
please
call
the
roll
victor.
C
C
B
A
A
A
B
U
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
My
name
is
kenneth
reid.
I
live
at
2415,
compass,
drive,
boise,
idaho,
I'm
the
architect
for
the
project
and
I'll
have
nicole
and
mark
speak
in
a
little
bit.
They
have
moved
from
west
boise
to
this
part
of
town
in
the
historic
district
and
they
bought
the
small
house.
It's
only,
I
think,
788
square
feet
currently
and
they're
living
in
that
with
two
adorable
little
children
and
they'd
like
to
design
and
build
a
new
home
and
then
remove
the
non-contributing
structure
and
create
the
garage.
U
U
I've
been
doing
this
for
25
years
now,
and
I
remember
years
ago
the
lot
coverage
was
30
and
I
know
that
they
bumped
it
up
to
35,
and
so
I
wanted
to
create
a
building
that
felt
like
it
belonged
in
the
neighborhood
created
the
open
space
and
the
breathing
room.
You
know
not
just
the
five
foot
side
setbacks
so
that
you
know
their
kids
can
grow
up
in
the
backyard
and
have
some
play
space.
U
U
There's
a
rhythm
to
these
neighborhoods.
They
don't
all
have
to
be
one
story
exclusively.
I
feel
that
this
particular
application
has
a
nice
feel
to
it.
There's
plenty
of
two
stories
across
the
street
around
the
corner,
there's
a
fairly
large
two
and
a
half
story.
That's
that's
behind
on
the
alley
that
was
built
just
last
year,
so
it's
a
growing
neighborhood,
as
we've
seen
from
previous
applications
tonight,
there's
a
lot
of
pressure
to
grow
things
sensitively.
U
U
Y
This
is
nicole,
jillian.
Thank
you
very
much
ken
and
thank
you
very
much
to
the
commission.
I
think
kevin
covered
it
beautifully
and
we
really
appreciated
working
with
him
like,
like
ken
says
we
just
we
really.
We
want
to
be
respectful
to
the
historic
neighborhood
while
breathing
life
into
this,
this
property-
and
you
know
we're
really.
We
really
appreciate
the
work
you
do
and
it's
really
been.
Y
W
B
U
Absolutely
at
a
chair,
commissioner
ted
qualified
this
as
a
bit
of
a
farm
house.
I
I
was,
I
was
not
sure
I
wanted
to
put
that
label
on
it.
I
just
tried
to
create
a
a
vernacular
as
I've
walked
through
the
neighborhood
and
I've
drawn
lots
and
lots
of
houses.
Here
I
just
wanted
to
make
something
that
looked
like
it
was
fun
and
welcoming
there's,
basically
a
slightly
offset
front
door.
U
U
There's
a
there's
a
triple
window
in
the
front
for
the
front
wall,
front
room
that
really
looks
like
an
american
bungalow
sort
of
motif
upstairs
is
a
bedroom,
and
I
wanted
to
have
a
couple
of
fun
little
elements.
Those
are
small
square
windows
on
either
side
in
the
room,
so
the
front
window
has
to
meet
the
egress
requirements
for
a
bedroom
and
then
there's
a
couple
of
fun.
Little
windows,
I'm
just
trying
to
have
a
playful
edifice
that
adds
maybe
to
the
architecture
in
the
neighborhood.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
I
was
just
wondering
why
I
mean
it
looks
that
the
first
level
looks
kind
of
awkward
for
lack
of
words,
because
there's
a
door
and
historically,
if
you
had
a
house,
you'd
also
have
a
window
in
that
area
too.
So
there's
this
large
section
of
that
front.
Elevation,
that's
just
kind
of
void
and
where
the
the
triple
window
is
you'd
almost
normally
have
like
a
a
paired
window.
So
thank
you
for
explaining.
U
H
A
Madame
chair,
commissioner
koski,
if
I
said
it
needed
to
be
five,
that
it
typically
garages
need
to
be
five,
but
the
applicant
is
correct
when
it
it's
kind
of
scaled
by
size.
So
on
the
applicant
on
the
application
we
saw
earlier,
it
was
over
500
or
over
a
thousand
square
feet.
It
needed
to
meet
all
of
the
setbacks
for
the
zone.
This
one
is
below
500
square
feet,
so
it
kind
of
scales
down.
So
the
side
setback
is
in
fact
reduced
to
three
feet.
Instead
of
five.
J
J
B
T
Hello,
madam
chair,
this
is
sherry,
potasso,
1110,
west
eastman
street.
I
was
previously
here
on
behalf
of
nina
and
I'm
not
here
in
any
official
capacity,
but
as
a
member
of
the
public,
I'm
just
always
so
pleased
to
see
architectural
designs
come
before
this
commission
that
actually
fit
the
neighborhood
that
use
the
open
space
that
don't
overwhelm
what's
possible,
that
don't
request
exceptions
to
tearing
down
contributing
structures
that
really
work
with
the
neighborhood
inside
of
maintaining
the
historic
characteristics
of
it.
T
And
I
think
when
we
look
at
the
applications
from
this
evening,
you
just
see
a
distinct
difference
in
what
can
read
presents
on
behalf
of
his
clients,
and
so
I'm
just
I
stayed
late
and
extra
just
to
say
on
behalf
of
ken
reed.
I
think
the
design
is
great.
I
love
what
he's
done
here.
I
love
what
he's
done
with
the
open
space
and
what
he's
creating
on
the
slot.
I'm
slightly
envious
because
I
wanted
to
buy
this
slot
at
one
point
myself,
and
this
is
what
I
would
have
done
the
same
thing.
B
B
E
F
Madam
chair
commissioners,
I
would
just
like
to
commend
the
aldridges
with
and
with
the
support
and
creativity
of
ken
reed
on
the
design
of
this
of
this
project.
I
think
it's
it's
a
breath
of
fresh
air
after
a
long
evening
of
some
stuff
that
was
fairly
difficult
to
to
get
through,
so
it
fits
the
neighborhood
really
well,
the
design
is
where
it
should
be
and
it
checks
all
the
boxes.