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From YouTube: Historic Preservation Commission - 5/11/2020
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A
B
B
So
here
we
go
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
first
virtual
meeting
of
the
Boise
City
Historic
Preservation
Commission,
a
few
things
to
start
out
with,
for
the
good
of
the
order.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
this
hearing
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak
at
this
time.
As
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you
will
be
called
upon
and
unmuted.
We
will
ask
if
you
have
slides
to
share
or
if
you
can
use
the
planner
slides
for
your
visuals.
B
If
you
have
your
own
slides,
you
will
be
promoted
to
a
panelist.
This
may
log
you
off
momentarily
and
then
log
you
back
in
and
then
you'll
have
the
ability
to
share
your
screen
a
quick
overview
for
zoom.
The
capabilities
and
options
are
different,
depending
on
which
device
you're,
using
if
you're
on
a
smart
phone
you'll
be
limited
to
only
speaking
and
sharing
your
camera.
If
you're
on
a
computer,
you
can
share
your
webcam
or
your
screen
when
called
upon
some
laptops
might
not
have
microphone
capabilities.
B
If
you
wish
to
speak
over
the
phone
but
watch
on
your
computer,
the
phone
number
for
this
hearing
is
listed
on
the
email
you
received
when
registering
for
the
hearing
for
both
smart
phone
and
computer
participation.
There
are
controls
on
the
bottom
of
zoom
to
virtually
raise
your
hand
when
you
wish
to
speak
on
the
item
you're
interested
in
if
you're
attending
on
the
phone,
with
no
visual
of
capabilities,
you
can
raise
your
hand
virtually
by
typing
star
ix
again,
that's
star
nine.
B
To
raise
your
hand
virtually
on
a
phone
I'd
like
to
call
on
those
attending
my
phone
tonight
to
see
which
item
you're
interested
in
speaking
on.
So,
if
you're,
if
you're
on
a
phone
you'll
be
asked
to
to
use
the
star
nine,
there
is
a
chat
function
in
zoom.
This
is
part
of
the
record
and
you
should
only
be
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
If
the
chat
function
isn't
available
for
you,
you
can
email
zoning
info
at
City
of
Boise
org
with
any
technical
issues.
B
Our
procedures
for
public
hearings
begin
with
the
presentation
from
the
planning
team
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
applicant,
and
then
the
representative
of
the
registered
Neighborhood
Association,
followed
by
questions
from
the
Commission.
After
that,
we
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
signed
up
on
the
electric
sign-up
sheet
in
advance
and
then
anyone
who
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
for
testimony.
We
will
provide
a
30-second
warning
and
then
stop
you
at
three
minutes.
B
Tonight's
agenda
and
proceedings
will
be
almost
the
same
as
in-person
hearings,
except
we
might
have
a
bit
of
delay
as
we
learn
with
this
new
technology.
Please
be
courteous
and
kind
while
we
bencher
through
this
virtual
format.
So
madam
chair
I'll
go
ahead
and
turn
turn
things
over
to
you
now
Thank.
D
You
Ted,
we
are
citizen
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
the
City
Council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
projects
within
the
city's
historic
districts.
Any
decision
made
tonight
will
be
may
be
appealed
to
the
City
Council,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
stopped
than
ten
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
give,
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight.
We
utilize
sent
agenda.
D
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
if
there
is
no
public
opposition,
the
atom
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
that
are
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion.
Without
further
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will
hold
a
full
public
hearing
in
the
order
just
detailed
a
few
minutes
ago
with
staff
applicant,
Neighborhood,
Association
and
then
the
public
testimony.
Thank
you
all
for
virtually
attending
tonight
or
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
E
C
G
D
C
F
D
You
it
appears
that
item
number
eh
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero
to
nine
has
been
withdrawn,
so
we
will
go
ahead
and
start
with
item
number
three
on
the
agenda
and
that
is
Jerry:
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero.
Three
four:
this
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
construct
a
true
story:
single-family
structure
with
a
one-story
detached
garage
and
associated
site
improvements
at
ten
twelve
North
15th
Street.
We
will
now
hear
from
stuff.
Okay,.
I
L
D
C
H
N
H
C
O
B
B
This
aerial
is
an
older
picture,
though,
in
order
to
address
concerns
that
were
originally,
you
did
receive.
The
original
report
and
the
applicant
has
provided
revised
plans
addressing
many
of
those
concerns,
and
so
those
are
the
what
I
will
cover
at
this
time
that
memo
addressing
those
concerns
and
the
revisions
was
attached
to
your
packet.
B
Extended
all
the
way
to
the
edge
of
the
street,
which
was
very
unusual,
and
so
we
were
at
that
time
going
to
require
them
to
get
a
survey
completed,
to
justify
the
extent
of
that
site
plan
which
did
impact
setbacks
and
LOC
coverage.
But
the
applicant
did
come
back
with
a
revised
site
plan
that
generally
matches
what
exists
on
the
rest
of
the
block.
B
The
remote
the
revised
site
plan
does
appear
to
be
accurate
and
is
consistent
with
the
rest
of
the
block.
Like
I
said,
with
the
revised
site
plan
lot,
coverage
will
be
at
about
37%
and
required.
Setbacks
will
be
met,
except
for
the
the
side.
Loading
garage
appears
to
only
have
23
feet
from
the
property
line
from
this
side
property
line.
B
The
height
of
the
structure
is
proposed
to
be
about
30
feet,
which
is
reduced
from
about
34
feet.
On
the
original
plan,
a
full
front
porch
will
extend
the
entire
length
of
the
facade.
It
appears
there
will
be
a
central
entrance
plus
two
side
entrances.
This
is
a
bit
unusual
in
the
historic
district.
However,
the
Commission
has
approved
such
such
entrances
in
the
past
on
new
construction,
most
of
the
houses
on
the
block
are
one
or
one
and
a
half
stories
tall.
B
B
This
is
a
site
plan
that
generally
shows
the
the
lock
coverages
for
that
block.
The
previous
plans
before
they
revised
where
the
lock
coverage
was
anywhere
from
forty
to
fifty
percent.
It
was
a
really
high,
lock
coverage,
and
so
we
created
this
map
to
kind
of
show.
Some
of
the
lock
coverages
around
the
area
and
you'll
see
that
they
generally
range
from
about
20%
to
the
30s.
Here,
where
my
cursor
is
located
is
the
2-story
multi-family,
which
is
at
about
39
percent,
lock
coverage.
B
So
these
are
the
main
issues
we
had
with
the
original
plan
and
and
what
was
corrected
so,
as
I
mentioned,
the
site
plan
was
corrected.
Lock
coverage
was
reduced
to
37
percent
massing
of
the
structure,
with
a
proposed
height
again
reduced
from
34
feet,
34
feet
as
close
to
the
maximum
allowed
for
this
zone
by
the
way
35
feets,
the
the
height,
the
actual
height
maximum.
But
that's
sorry
about
that.
That's
this
is
peak,
however,
and
so
they
had
it
at
34,
the
very
peak,
and
now
it's
30
feet
to
the
peak.
B
The
garage
does
not
meet
the
backup
space
requirements
and
we
discussed
that
I
believe
the
applicant
indicated
to
me
that
they
will
seek
a
variance
to
reduce
that
back
up
space
area
and
with
that
staff
does
recommend
approval
of
the
revised
plans
with
the
conditions
of
approval
listed
in
the
revised
plans.
Memo.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
B
Unfortunately,
there's
not
a
there,
there's
I
can
easily
get
lock
coverages
from
the
neighbors,
but
I
can't
really
readily
get
the
exact
peak
heights,
but
I
would
imagine
that
with
the
the
two-story
across
the
streams-
probably
pretty
close-
probably
you
know
upper
20s
close
to
30
feet,
but
the
other
houses
are
generally
one
and
a
half
story
to
one
story,
and
so
the
heights
are
I
would
say
the
peak
height
on
those
are
probably
you
know,
20
to
20
to
24
Maven's
though
well.
This
would
be.
B
D
B
J
Yeah
Ted,
can
you
go
one
more
slide,
I
think
see
here
and
I
guess:
go
back,
go
back
when
to
the
the
there
we
go,
I
want
to
look
at
the
street
view
or
the
view
of
the
houses,
a
picture
of
the
houses
next
to
it.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
indicate
which
ones
are
across
the
street
and
which
ones
are
on
the
same.
B
The
rendering,
generally,
the
reason
I
didn't
put
the
rendering
in
the
in
the
presentation
to
begin
with,
because
it
was
really
related
to
the
original
plans,
and
so
it
kind
of
had
a
more
of
a
massing
look.
Then
then
they
revised
would
have
so
it
wasn't.
It's
not
a
you
know.
It
doesn't
look
completely
that
right,
yeah.
G
B
J
B
B
N
B
T
B
B
Q
Good
evening,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
the
rest
of
the
panel.
My
name
is
Michael
Webb.
Can
you
hear
me
at
this
time?
Yes,
perfect.
So
yes,
first
of
all,
thank
you.
Everyone
for
taking
the
time
to
hear
us
on
this.
My
family
and
I
are
super
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
build
this
great
house
in
your
neighborhood
and
become
a
contributing
member.
The
houses
to
the
left
and
the
right
is
Ted,
said
approximately
house
or
height
wise.
Q
The
big
front
of
the
houses
are
both
one
story
where
they
built
two:
a
second
story
on
both
the
north
and
south,
facing
those
houses.
The
peaks
are
approximately
24
to
25
feet
on
both
sides
of
the
house
to
try
and
help
out
with
with
that
question
also,
when
we
discussed
the
massing
initially,
as
Ted
pointed
out,
we
did
request
I,
believe
it
was
42
or
47%
that
was
before.
Q
I
was
aware
of
the
35%
lot
coverage,
and
since
then
we
backed
down
to
find
a
way
that
we
can,
you
know,
come
within
the
requirements
so
that
we
can
build
our
house
at
the
at
that
point
in
time.
Another
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
Ted
mentioned
the
house
directly
across
the
street,
being
a
two-story
house
and
that's
the
only
one
on
the
block
directly
behind
the
house
across
the
alleyway
is
another
two-story
house,
and
then
the
house
directly
behind
it
into
the
south,
is
additionally
a
two-story
house.
Q
Q
L
Q
Q
D
D
T
Yes,
can
you
guys
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
so
my
name
is
sherry:
Picasso
I'm,
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission
liaison
for
Nina.
My
address
is
1110
West,
Eastman
Street
and
you
know,
wishes
to
be
a
party
of
record
for
any
items
regarding
massing
issues
and
specifically,
regarding
this
project
from
a
one
and
a
half
story
to
a
two
story
for
massing.
L
T
Hey,
are
you
able
to
hear
me,
oh
great,
so
this
is
my
first
time
doing
this
on
behalf
of
Nina,
for
mark
ball,
test
and
discussing
this
project
today
he
had
concerns
about
the
massing
on
15th
with
the
surrounding
property
is
not
all
being
two-story.
He
felt
that
the
the
lot
coverage
exceeded
35%
and
he'd,
like
the
law
coverage
held
at
35
percent
and
just
felt
that
the
two
stories
seemed
over
masked
for
the
surrounding
properties.
D
D
D
U
Close
enough
hi,
there
I'm
Krista
grizzle
I'm
a
block
down
on
1116
North
15th
Street.
Let's
see
my
concern
is
similar.
It's
a
little
bit
inconsistent
with
the
neighborhood
and
the
size
of
the
street
presidents,
and
then
I
wanted
to
speak
in
particular
to
the
offset
in
the
alley
for
the
variance
on
the
garage
we
have
also
applied
once
or
twice
for
a
variance
on
a
garage
upgrade
and
been
denied.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
inconsistency
is
called
out.
U
D
D
I
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
hi
Tom,
zorga
and
I
own
1004
and
1016
Street,
two
houses
down
from
this
property,
and
my
question
is
because
I
couldn't
tell
from
the
photos
or
the
drawings
what
what
the
exterior
the
home
made
of.
Is
it
siding
shingles,
stucco
brick,
it
just
seemed
like
it
was
a
flat
service.
If
you
guys
had
an
answer
or
more
detail
about
that.
I
V
V
Comment
on
the
variant
on
the
drive
we're
at,
we
need
25
to
be
compliant
we're
at
23
right
now.
But
if
you
look
at
the
layout
for
the
house
with
the
garage
we've
arched
the
driveway,
to
leave
a
big
tree
and
eliminate
some
of
the
hard
scape
of
the
driveway
and
that's
what
we
were
hoping
to
propose
in
the
variant.
Is
that
we're
not
going
to
take
out
that
tree
and
not
have
so
much
concrete
in
the
backyard
at
the
drive?
D
D
Q
Yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you
again.
Laurie
help
me
out
with
the
with
the
exterior
portion
and
also
discussing
the
tree.
So
one
of
the
big
things
we're
trying
to
build
with
this
house
is
preserve
as
much
of
the
green
space
as
possible.
That's
what
we
love
about
the
neighborhood
at
the
large
trees
in
the
green
space.
So
we
want
to.
We
want
to
keep
as
much
of
that
as
possible.
J
F
D
You
for
the
second
Commissioner
Richter.
Would
you
like
to
elaborate
or
start
the
discussion
on
that
Kirchner
Koski.
J
Yes,
ma'am
chair,
thank
you.
Well,
there
are
some
taller
structures
across
the
alley
behind
and
one
across
the
street.
The
facade,
that's
the
biggest
need
to
be
addressed
is
the
facade
on
that
side
of
15th
Street.
So
the
five
buildings
and
five
lots
that
are
on
the
east
side
of
the
property
or
excuse
me
of
the
street
on
that
block,
two
of
which
are
single
stories
to
which
our
story
and
a
half
and
by
looking
at
those
photos.
J
L
I'd
like
to
mirror
what
mr.
kasky
stated
so
far
yeah
the
massing
is
definitely
I
was
played
outside
of
the
street
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are,
although
kind
of
coming
up
against
this
one
lock
coverage,
obviously
being
one
of
them
and
also
the
backup
space
with
the
garage,
nothing
that
needs
to
be
taken.
D
K
L
What
at
the
condition
of
approval,
the
applicant
is
willing
to
take
it
down
to
a
35%
law
coverage.
I.
Think
the
our
biggest
issue
with
this
one
or
my
my
biggest
issue
with
this
one
is
the
massing
of
it
and
it
just
presents
itself
on
not
only
the
the
side
of
the
street
that's
on,
but
also
on
that
entire
block
right
there
I
concur.
N
D
Thank
you.
The
next
item
we
have
before
us
this
evening
is
item
number
four
d:
reach:
zero:
zero,
zero,
zero.
Three
six
I
think
that's
the
correct
amount
of
zeros
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
demolish
and
non-contributing
single
family
structure
and
detached
garage
to
construct
a
one
and
a
half
story,
single
family
structure
and
detached
garage
with
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
associated
site
improvements.
We
will
now
oh
I'm.
Sorry
this
site
is
located
at
10:15
West
rescue
Street
and
will
not
hear
from
staff.
N
A
So
again
we
are
hearing
item
D,
RH
2036,
located
on
Reza
Q
Street.
This
project
again
is
smallish
an
existing
non-contributing
home,
which
is
pictured.
It's
the
greyish
green
house.
It
will
be
replaced
or
proposed
to
be
replaced
with
a
2622
square-foot
home
with
a
520
square
foot,
garage
and
390
square
foot
accessory
dwelling
unit
located
above
the
garage
staff,
has
recommended
approval
for
this
project,
and
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
all
the
positions
of
approval.
A
However,
we
are
hearing
the
item
to
discuss
some
concerns
the
Commission
had
so
my
presentation
is
focused
on
those
points
of
contention.
To
start
this
property
is
a
substandard
Lots,
meaning
it
is
below
the
minimum
lot
standard
for
the
zone.
There
is
a
substandard
law
ordinance
within
the
Boise
City
zoning
code,
so
this
property
is
being
reviewed
through
the
historic
guidelines,
as
well
as
the
substandard
law
ordinance.
However,
one
key
element
of
the
ordinance
is
that
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission
may
modify
regulations
within
the
ordinance
during
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
process.
A
If
a
design
is
found
appropriate
for
the
historic
district,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
fully
comply
with
the
substandard
law
ordinance.
The
Commission
may
still
approve
the
design
with
no
waivers
or
variances.
Even
the
first
point
of
contention
was
the
setbacks.
The
proposed
front
setback
is
below
the
zone
requirement
for
the
15
feet
in
the
substandard
law.
A
There
are
also
some
initial
issues
with
the
side
setbacks
with
a
chimney
and
minor
living
space
bump
out
that
didn't
meet
the
5
foot
setback.
The
applicant
has
agreed
to
the
attached
condition
that
they
meet
the
setback
and
they
illustrate
a
compliance
with
the
modified
design
seen
here
so
they
have
removed
the
chimney,
as
well
as
on
part
of
a
living
space
bump
out.
That
was
attached
to
the
chimney.
A
Lot.
Coverage
for
the
property
was
initially
proposed
at
36.6%,
with
staff,
adding
a
condition
that
the
project
be
at
or
below
the
35%
standard.
The
applicant
worked
with
staff
and
a
new
design
was
proposed
which
reduced
the
garage
square
footage
by
60
square
feet,
so
the
new
design
is
the
one
on
the
bottom.
You
can
see
that
this
bump,
that
was
removed
from
the
garage
staff
felt
that
the
effort
of
the
applicant
brought
the
design
to
an
agreeable
lot
coverage
of
35.1
6%.
A
memo
was
provided
to
the
Commission,
recommending
altering
the
condition
to.
A
0.16
percent
the
front
elevation
on
the
left
is
the
facade
submitted
with
the
application.
It
included
a
modern
front
dormer
with
the
solid
windows,
black
material
variation.
It
had
some
inappropriate
materials
like
hard
board
and
visible
fibrex
windows.
The
applicant
has
modified
the
elevation
which
you
can
see
on
the
right.
They
change
the
dormer
window.
They
added
some
sand
stones
had
some
design
variety.
They
also
change
the
materials
they're
now
using
fiber
cement
and
fiberglass
windows.
A
While
the
project
largely
followed
the
substantive
law
ordinance,
the
project
modified
the
requirements
in
two
main
areas:
the
height
and
residential
floor
area.
The
substandard
law
ordinance
looks
at
context
to
determine
appropriate
height
and
has
specific
dimensions
to
classify
design
as
one
and
one-half
story
and
a
partial
two-story.
The
proposed
design
deviates
from
the
dimensional
requirements
by
having
a
midline
of
a
roof
being
at
19
feet.
A
Instead
of
the
standard
18
feet,
they
also
have
2
dormers
instead
of
one
for
the
traditional
partial
story
and
the
dormers
are
at
12
feet
instead
of
a
standard
8
feet,
so
it
doesn't
comply
within
the
specific
dimensions
of
so
a
partial
2
story.
A
one
and
a
half.
However,
as
noted
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission
has
the
ability
to
modify
regulations
of
the
substandard
law
ordinance.
The
intent
of
the
height
standards
is
to
create
a
design
that
complements
the
massing
of
the
neighborhood
and
doesn't
stand
out
in
a
negative
way,
with
a
side
gable.
A
The
dormers
face
into
the
street
and
the
rear
yard
alleviating
privacy
concerns
that
could
have
been
caused
by
the
additional
dormer
in
larger
sized.
Additionally,
the
proposed
height
and
design
allows
for
a
transition
from
the
full
two-story
on
one
side
to
the
single-story,
on
the
other,
providing
additional
design
variety
to
the
street
as
such,
that
finds
the
design
to
meet
the
intent
of
both
the
historic
and
substandard
law
ordinance.
A
Finally,
the
residential
for
area
is
72
percent,
which
is
above
the
55%
residential
floor
area,
required
in
the
substandard
nets.
Again,
the
intent
of
the
requirement
is
to
design
appropriate
infill.
The
massing
is
still
appropriate
for
the
context
of
the
property
and
a
significant
amount
of
the
residential
floor
area
is
located
within
an
underground
basement
that
does
not
impact
the
massing
or
LOC
coverage
of
the
site
if
I
was
to
just
calculate
the
visible
for
area
so
taking
out
the
basement,
the
residential
floor
area
would
be
about
48%.
A
Now
this
is
a
lot
of
text
and
don't
feel
obligated
to
read
it.
This
is
just
to
show
the
main
project,
specific
conditions
that
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
comply
with,
or
has
actually
provided
revised
drawings.
It's
just
included
in
case.
These
are
points
of
discussion
and
again,
staff
recommends
approval
for
the
project
and
I
am
more
than
happy
to
answer.
Any
questions
may
have.
O
A
Madam
chair
Commissioner
Weaver
the
how
it's
written
it's
just
flat-out
presidential
for
areas.
We
also
count
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
square
footage
towards
that.
The
designer
view
committee,
which
reviews
substandard
Lots,
the
are
in
historic
district,
has
kind
of
allowed
some
waivers
or
deviation
if
some
of
the
square
footage
is
in
the
basement,
but
as
it's
written,
the
55%
is
just
overall
living
space.
J
A
A
Call
it
a
non
compliant
or
partial,
two-story
I
wouldn't
describe
this
as
a
full
two-story
as
a
good
portion
or
all
of
the
second
storey
is
within
the
pitch
line
of
the
roof,
which
is
kind
of
the
point
of
what
a
one
and
a
half
and
partial
two
story
is.
Is
you
don't
have
those
full
second
floor?
Rather
it's
located
in
the
roof.
So
what's,
however,
you
wanted
to
find
it.
I
would
call
it
a
non-compliant
one
and
a
half
or
partial
two-story.
A
G
A
A
There's
a
few
different
dimensions
for
that,
so
we
look
at
height
at
the
midline.
So
really
the
restriction
for
a
midline
for
one
and
a
half
or
partial
two
story
is
that
18
feet,
so
it
doesn't
measure
have
a
requirement
for
the
peak
typically,
when
we
see
them
complying
with
the
one
and
a
half
18
foot
midline
we're
seeing
homes
that
are
22
to
24
feet
to
the
peak,
the
maximum
peak
height
and
the
substandard
law
is
the
width
of
a
lot.
A
J
A
Again,
we're
looking
at
the
non-compliance
on
one
and
a
half,
so
it's
more
of
a
one
and
a
half
versus
a
partial
to
story,
but
it's
following
the
same
midline
of
proposed
home,
so
they
would
be.
However,
you
define
them
based
off
of
that
I
would
not
per
how
we've
interpreted
the
code.
Call
it
a
full
two-story.
It
would
be
a
non-compliant
partial
two-story.
D
Okay,
seeing
none
we
will
now
hear
from
the
applicant.
W
Can
you
hear
me
what
okay,
so
my
name
is
Michel
belt
I'm,
the
architect
of
record,
ladies
and
gentlemen
of
the
board?
Thank
you
for
your
time.
You
know.
I
really
wasn't
aware
of
the
18-foot
mid
line
a
little
bit,
but
I
would
say.
Overall,
the
the
project
is
really
a
massive
improvement
in
the
neighborhood.
Considering
what's
there
now,
I
would
also
say
that
that
overall,
the
historic
design
guidelines
that
are
kind
of
laid
out.
W
We
definitely
meet
the
intent
and
and
respect
with
kind
of
what
you
guys
hope
to
achieve
in
the
neighborhood,
and
that's
really
all
I'd
have
to
say.
I
would
say
that
if
it
sounds
like,
the
big
thing
is
is
maybe
that
that
the
roof
is
maybe
a
foot
too
high.
I
think
if,
if
that's
kind
of
the
sticky
issue
here,
we
could
definitely
find
a
way
to
to
get
that
down
a
foot.
That's
all
I
have.
L
W
W
That's
building
up
to
this
dormer
same
on
the
backside
too,
and-
and
the
other
thing
is
I
believe
I've
got
this
drawn
to
meet
the
one
and
a
half
story
requirement,
with
the
exception
of
that
18-foot
mid
line
number
but
as
I
remember
correctly,
the
the
substandard
rules
were
that
the
the
upper
level
that
is
in
this
this
attic
space
is
is
to
have
sort
of
a
knee
wall
that
is
no
taller
than
two
and
a
half
feet,
which
is
what
we
have
so
I
thought.
I'd
just
add
that
to.
D
D
Cheri
the
floor
is
yours:
if
you
could
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
one
more
time.
T
Yes,
sherry
butas
Oh
for
Nina
1110,
West,
Eastman
Nina
wishes
to
be
a
party
of
record
for
all
items
regarding
height
and
lot
coverage
prefer
to
keep
block
coverage
at
35
percent,
but
generally
agree
with
staffs
recommendations
for
the
project.
D
D
D
D
Can
you
all
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
okay,
okay,
it
doesn't
appear
that
we
have
any
rebuttal
from
the
applicant
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
protocol
is
or
how
long
we
should
wait.
Can.
D
W
Sorry
yeah
I
would
say
so
that
the
last
comment
from
the
person
from
Nina
that
the
percentage
coverage
I
know
we're
basically
0.16
percent
over
I'd,
like
to
think
that
we
really
haven't
met
the
design
intent
there
and
I
guess.
I
would
say
that
if
if,
in
fact,
one
of
the
requests
that
that
you
have
is
that
these
dormers
get
narrowed
up
by
the
the
two
feet
we
would
we
would
definitely
be
in
compliance
with
that
percentage.
D
J
In
you
know
we're
talking
about
some
design
changes.
I
know
that
can
be
difficult.
When
you
talk
about,
you
know,
pulling
a
foot
off
the
height
quite
possibly,
or
changing
the
dormers
by
in
size.
I
also
think
the
dormers
on
the
ad.
You
might
also
be
above
the
size
of
the
ten
feet,
I
recall,
but
my
my
main
question
for
you
would
be
is:
are
you
able
to
reduce
those
size
to
the
the
size
that's
called
for
in
the
guidelines
without
doing
a
complete
redesign,
I
mean
I'm.
J
W
What
what
actually
would
be
nice
is
if
we,
so,
the
the
house
has
two
12-foot
wide
dormers
front
and
back.
The
garage
has
two
11
foot
wide
dormers.
What
would
be
nice
is
if
the
house
we
can
make
it
work.
I
would
say
if
we
can
just
reduce
the
width
of
the
house
dormers
to
11
foot,
knowing
I
gotta
get
I
gotta
take
two
feet
out.
It
would
require
a
good
bit
of
redesign
and
so
I
guess
I.
D
E
Like
to
discuss
a
little
I
feel
like
the
project,
looks
pretty
good,
but
I
mean
there's
just
a
couple
of
small
little
things
that
are
in
the
rules
that
aren't
being
followed
and
I
mean.
What's
the
point
of
these,
if
we
can
just
say,
oh,
we
can
just
skip
these
three
steps
and
get
the
house
through
like.
Why
do
we
even
write
the
rule
so
I
think
if
the
house
is
redesigned
to
fix
the
dormers
and
the
height
I
would
be
good
with
it.
E
O
Guess,
I'm
sure
I
just
kind
of
mention
one
thing
here:
I
some
of
the
things
I'm
thinking
about
I
think
I'm
not
concerned
about
the
lot
coverage
of
being
a
little
bit
over
35%.
That
is
a
guideline.
It's
not
an
absolute
and
I!
Think
thirty,
five
point:
one
six
percent
meets
the
intent
of
guideline
and
I
would
be
fine
with
that
without
and
it's
also
measurements
are
not
that
accurate.
O
O
Is
emulation
to
the
dormers,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
have
the
door
narrower
whether
that's
getting
down
to
the
ten
feet,
which
it
should
be
at
that's
probably
ideal,
11
feet.
I
could
hear
someone's
argument
for
that
I
guess,
but
anyways
I
I'm
a
little
more
concerned
about
warmer
and
than
the
height
of
the
house.
Thank.
L
There's
you
know,
that's
a
pretty
small
amount
to
be
to
be
arguing
over
at
this
point
right
now
and
as
far
as
the
height
goes,
I
think
she's
she's
fond
of
that
too.
We
started
lowering
that
peak
height
the
dormers
already
starting
to
get.
You
know
crowding
the
peak
of
the
main
home.
Do
you
believe
that
if
we
can
shrink
him
down
to
10
feet,
so
they
follow
within
that
guideline?
I
think
that
would
be
I.
Think
that'd
be
a
good
direction
to
go.
Thank.
D
J
Chair
just
some
additional
discussion,
as
we
as
commissioner
Weaver
and
Richter
spoke
about
the
height
and
the
block
coverage
right
I
mean
agreement
of
their
comments
where
I
get
concerned
on
projects
like
this,
that
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
together
as
a
as
a
commission
is
when
everything
seems
to
be
mapped
out
so
yeah,
you
know.
Initially,
the
proposal
was
too
close
to
the
front
step
back.
It
was
too
close
to
the
street.
I
was
too
close
to
the
side
setback.
J
J
Then
the
I
really
question:
does
it
meet
the
intent
of
the
guidelines
to
fit
the
property?
There's
a
very
small
one-story
house
next
to
the
80
to
80
you
on
the
east
side.
Excuse
me
the
west
side
and
another
one-story
house
in
front
of
that
on
the
west
side
of
the
house.
It
has
a
little
taller
roof.
So
I
really
think
we
need
to
consider
all
of
these
things
as
we're
doing
right
now.
So
Matt,
that's
just
my
biggest
concern
for
projects
like
this.
J
G
D
You
Commissioner
Koski,
I
I
appreciate
your
concerns
and
I
also
I
do
want
to
say
on
the
record,
but
I
also
appreciate
the
concerns
of
the
applicant
I'm.
Sorry,
the
the
fact
that
the
applicant
has
addressed
the
concerns
in
the
reductions
and
changes
that
they've
made
within
the
application
so
far
and
it
seemed
they
seemed
to
be
willing
to
work
with
staff
and
us
on
this
particular
application.
So
I'm
grateful
for
that
with
that,
may
I
have
a
motion,
but.
K
O
H
D
D
You
very
much
the
next
item
we
have
on
our
agenda
for
tonight
is
item
number
five:
Gary:
zero:
zero,
zero,
zero,
five
nine.
This
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
construct
a
two-story
single
family
structure
with
attached
garage
and
associate
site
improvements.
The
site
is
located
at
2100
North
17th
Street,
and
we
will
now
hear
from
sac.
B
B
F
B
It's
a
request
for
a
two-story
single-family
structure
with
attached
garage
on
a
substandard
corner
lot
located
in
the
expanded
north
end
historic
district.
The
overall
lot
contains
a
contributing
the
overall
existing
lot
as
you're.
Looking
at
this
lot
here,
if
you
can
see
my
cursor
a
lot
least,
there
are
underlying
lots
of
record
here
then,
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
bring
one
of
those
forward
and
to
do
a
lot
line
adjustment
to
create
a
second.
Why
facing
17th
Street?
B
So
the
lot
line
will
generally
run
down
the
middle
of
this
lot,
essentially
cutting
off
alley
access
which
we'll
discuss
later
and
then
we'll
then
laureate,
the
house
towards
17th
Street
it'll
be
a
fairly
large
fronting
lot
as
well
off
of
70th
Street,
so
the
overall
the
existing
lot
does
contain.
This
is
a
minimal
traditional
contributing
home
and
garage
on
this
south
southeast
corner,
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
the
conditions
are
now
and
then
what
what
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
do
with
bringing
up
that
underlying
lot.
B
As
previously
stated,
the
new
lot
will
front
17th
Street
and
take
access
directly
from
the
street
to
an
attached
garage
located
on
the
north
side
of
the
house.
Lot
coverage
for
the
project
will
be
32%
and
required.
Setbacks
will
be
largely
met,
however.
It
appears
there
will
be
an
uncovered
deck
along
the
South
Street
side
of
the
house
that
is
encroaching
into
the
setback
so
that
the
street
side
setback
is
will
need
to
be
met
or
a
variance
approved
or
the
deck
adjusted
to
meet
that
setback.
B
This
is
the
front
17th
Street
facing
elevation
of
the
house.
As
you
can
see,
you
got
a
description
from
the
last
application
of
the
substandard
lot
ordinance.
This
applicant
is
requesting
a
full
two-story
on
this
lot.
The
mod
the
house
has
been
modulated
a
bit
very
rough
lines
and
broken
up
a
bit.
There
is
actually
a
two-story
house
across
the
street
to
the
south
of
this
I.
B
Think
it's
a
multi-family
structure,
however,
to
the
north
is
a
I'll
show
you
a
photo
of
it
to
the
north
is
a
multi
building,
mid-century
multifamily
building
that
is
technically
two
storeys,
but
it's
sort
of
a
sunken
two
stories,
so
it
doesn't
come
across
really
as
two
stories
I'll
show
you
a
photo
of
that.
So
this
is
the
front
facade
with
the
partial
front,
porch
multiple
front
facing
gables.
This
is
the
attached
garage
on
the
north
side.
It
will
be
back
from
the
front
and
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk
installed
along
that
Street
frontage.
B
B
These
are
the
side
elevations.
This
is
the
intent
up.
Here
is
the
left
interior
side
in
elevation
and
the
bottom
right
you'll
see
the
street
side
elevation
again.
They
are
proposing
it
back
in
that
area
which
will
be
problematic
with
the
setbacks
and
then
a
large
dormer
on
the
side
and
also
entry
doors
on
the
side
as
well.
B
B
This
is
looking
south
so
on
the
upper
left
here.
You'll
see
that
the
two-story
so
down
here
on
the
bottom
is
that
multi-family
in
mid-century
multifamily
building,
obviously
non-contributing.
So
this
is
adjacent
to
the
north.
So
to
the
south,
you
do
have
a
two-story
to
the
north.
You
have
a
you
know,
I,
guess
a
I'm,
not
sure
what
you'd
call
it
a
partial
two
story
or
story
and
a
half
multi-family
structure
and
then
directly
behind
again
is
the
one
story
minimal
traditional
home,
that
the
applicant
owns.
B
I'm
sorry,
so
we
are
recommending
approval
of
the
application.
I
will
make
a
note
on
the
height.
This
isn't
a
floodplain,
so
the
app
the
property,
the
the
structure,
is
required
to
be
elevated.
One
foot
above
base
flood
level
so
that
contributes
to
the
height.
The
height
of
the
structure
at
peak
is
again
30
feet
so,
and
one
foot
of
that
is
due
to
the
flood
the
elevation
to
the
flood
floodplain.
So
and
with
that
I'll
stand
for
questions.
D
B
D
V
B
B
B
Excuse
me,
madam
chair
Commissioner
Richard
there
right
now,
there's
I
believe
there
are
three
underlying
lots
of
Records
beneath
this
lot.
So
as
you're
looking
at
the
aerial,
you
see
one
lot,
there's
actually
three
there
and
that's.
You
know.
We've
talked
about
this
before
in
our
meetings
that
that
they're
substandard
law,
origin
or
lots
of
record
that
were
platted
a
hundred
years
ago,
and
so
we
still
honor
those.
And
so
when
we
look
at
these
lots
when
you
okay,
it
looks
like
a
large
lot,
but
there's
actually
three
Lots
there.
B
Whoever
owns
that
lot
has
the
ability
and
really
the
right
to
bring
up
one
of
those
lot
lines,
one
of
the
three
and
create
a
separate
lot.
However,
in
this
case
they
did
that
and
then
they
adjusted
it
to
run
north-south,
creating
that
lot
to
the
that
the
new,
essentially
the
new
lot
to
the
west.
So.
L
B
Would
it
does
fall
under
the
substandard
lot
guidelines,
as
Casey
mentioned,
the
historic
Commission
has
the
ability
to
override
those
guidelines
if
they
see
fit
if
they
think
that
the
the
project
is
a
good
project
and
works
in
this
case,
it
would
somewhat
comply
again.
This
house
down
here
is
two
stories
this
multifamily
to
the
north
is
you
know,
kind
of
a
sunken
two-story
I,
guess
it's
it's
a
fairly
low
low
building,
but
has
two
levels
to
it,
and
then
this
would
be
the
house
behind
them,
which
they
own
would
be
the
contributing
minimal.
L
B
Likely
yes,
most
of
these.
A
lot
of
these
lots
along
here
are
on
substandard
Lots.
I
did
not
check
that,
though,
so
I
don't
have
that.
Don't
have
that
up
that
some
of
the
North
End
Lots,
you
know,
as
you
drive
around
you'll,
see
two-story
or
one
and
a
half
story
or
partial
two-story
houses
on
maybe
a
40-foot
wide
lot
or
45
foot
wide
lot,
which
would
be
considered
substandard
this
that
the
multifamily
project
design
is
a
standard
size
lot.
B
J
B
B
G
J
H
B
Is
correct?
Actually,
city
code
requires
access
to
an
alley
when
available.
If
an
ippon
alley
is
available,
access
has
to
be
taken
from
that
alley
and
in
this
case
the
way
the
lot
was
split
or
divided.
When
this,
when
the
substandard
lot
line
was
brought
up,
it
effectively
cut
off
access
from
the
to
providing
access
from
here
so
front
loading
access
was
was
then
proposed.
J
B
You
know
the
the
lot
lines
naturally
run
east
to
west,
so
he
wasn't
you're
not
able
to
bring
up
another
lot
line
here
or
you're
coming
here
a
year
you're
fearing
with
these
structures
already,
so
they
that's
why
they
they
moved
along
north-south.
There
are
a
couple
of
other
houses
along
here
that
you
can
see
do
front
load.
They
have
front
loading
accessibility
as
locals,
rear
loading
so
that
you'll
see
that
throughout
the
north
end
as
well.
Well,
there
will
be
an
alley
and
they,
you
know
there
is
access
from
an
alley.
B
J
B
B
If
somebody
does
need
to
do
a
garage
in
this
situation,
we
don't
want
to
dominate
the
facade
of
the
property,
so
we
do
require
it
to
be
set
back,
so
they
did
do
that,
but
it
is
something
that
is
not
common
in
the
north
end,
historic
district
you'll
see
it
more
like
on
Warm
Springs
you'll
see
a
lot
of
maybe
front-loading
garages
because
they
don't
have
alley
access
in
those
areas.
So
so
it's
not
unheard
of
in
historic
areas,
but
it
is
it's
less
common
I
would
say.
I.
Y
Y
Y
The
lot
split
issues,
if
that's:
okay,
fantastic
okay,
so
this
applications
for
a
new
home
on
a
newly
subdivided,
a
lot
which
Ted
sort
of
explained
pretty
well
existing
contributing
on
the
east
end
of
the
property
along
the
alleys,
things,
sort
of
carved
away
as
a
separate
property
and
with
regards
to
conditions
of
approval.
I
just
want
to
verify
that
the
owners
are
in
agreement
with
them,
including
that
front
window
change.
We
are
planning
to
reduce
the
height
of
that
deck.
Y
It's
in
the
setback
so
that
it
will
be
under
12
inches
and
it
will
no
longer
be
a
problem
also
to
address
the
question
about
the
existing
tree.
It
is
our
intention
to
save
that
you
can
see
it
drawn
in
on
the
site
plan,
there's
quite
a
large
circle.
It's
it's
just
to
the
right
of
the
driveway,
which
is
there's
an
existing
driveway
there
now,
so
the
roots
won't
be
too
impacted
by
that
drive.
Y
Now
this
design
proposes
a
street
facing
garage
which
isn't
typically
encouraged
in
the
historic
district.
Despite
that
they're,
not
exactly
rare,
there
are
five
Street
facing
garages
on
this
block,
so
five
out
of
the
eleven
homes
on
this
block
have
garages
that
face
and
take
access
from
the
front
street
the
existing
home
on
the
lot,
the
contributing
home
we
are
talking
about,
actually
takes
its
access
from
17th
Street
and
it
has
a
front
facing
garage
door.
Y
Y
We
placed
at
26
feet
from
the
front
property
line,
which
is
six
feet
further
than
is
required
by
code
to
try
to
minimize
the
impact
it
has
from
the
front,
and
the
garage
excuse
me
was
also
placed
along
the
interior
property
line
to
help
buffer
it
from
public
view.
It's
sort
of
hidden
on
three
sides
being
placed
on
that
northern
side.
The
structure
that's
adjacent
to
the
proposed
garage
that
multifamily
apartment
building.
It
has
no
windows
on
that
facade.
So
it's
not
looking
into
the
side
of
the
garage.
Y
This
lot
is
not
large
enough
to
have
a
free-standing
garage,
nor
is
it
deep
enough
for
the
garage
to
sit
behind
the
house,
so
the
only
option
for
a
non
front
facing
garage
would
be
to
set
it
on
the
south
side
of
the
house
and
take
access
from
Dora.
This
option,
though,
would
make
the
garage
visible
from
both
rights-of-way.
It
would
reduce
the
buildable
lot
width
by
five
feet
and
it
would
put
all
of
the
nice
southern
sun
exposure
into
the
instead
of
into
the
house
and
that's
kind
of
a
concern
for
the
owners.
Y
Those
trade-offs
are
steep
and
they're
not
beneficial
to
either
the
owners
or
to
the
neighborhood,
and
for
those
reasons
we
felt
the
best
location
for
the
garage
is
where
we've
placed
it
again.
Almost
half
the
properties
on
this
block
have
front
facing
garages
so
in
in
kind
of
a
strange
way.
This
will
actually
help
make
this
new
design
harmonious
with
the
neighborhood.
Y
Now
the
height
of
the
house
was
a
bit
of
a
challenge.
As
Ted
said,
this
site
sits
in
the
alluvial
flood
zone,
which
means
we
can't
have
a
basement
and
we're
limited
on
how
low
the
main
floor
can
be
the
way
those
regulations
read
though
they
say
the
first
floor
of
the
structure
has
to
be
located
a
minimum
of
12
inches
above
the
existing
grade.
They
consider
the
crawlspace
the
first
floor
of
the
structure,
so
we
have
to
locate
the
base
of
the
crawlspace
12
inches
above
the
existing
grade.
Y
Y
So
that's
that
those
are
FEMA
regulations
and
there's
no
variance
available
to
us
for
those,
it's
simply
a
hardship
of
the
site
and
any
home
that's
built
here
is
going
to
have
to
meet
those
same
limitations
because
we
can't
create
space
in
the
basement.
All
the
living
space
has
to
be
on
the
main
or
upper
levels.
This
is
a
small
lot
and
being
on
a
corner.
It's
eaten
up
with
setbacks
with
the
garage
on
the
site.
The
most
square
footage
we
can
get.
Y
A
single
level
is
about
twelve
hundred
and
eighty
to
1300
square
feet
which
is
well
below
the
median
size
of
a
single-family
home
by
adding
a
partial
second
floor,
we're
able
to
get
more
usable
space
and
we
can
create
a
house
large
enough
for
a
family
with
two
or
three
kids.
Now
the
historic
guidelines
allow
for
a
two-story
home
to
be
built
if
the
adjacent
properties
are
also
two
stories.
The
structure
to
the
north
is
a
two-story
multifamily
apartment
building
as
Ted
node.
It's
sort
of
something
into
the
ground
a
little
bit.
Y
So
it's
not
very
tall,
but
it
is
two
stories
to
the
south
across
Doris.
Street
is
a
two-story
single-family
home,
so
this
proposed
home
will
have
two-story
structures
on
either
side
design-wise,
instead
of
using
full
second-floor
walls.
We've
designed
the
house
to
have
a
story
and
a
half
look
we're
using
low
pony
walls
with
dormers
in
the
second
floor.
Y
In
addition,
we've
stepped
the
massing
down
at
the
front
with
a
low
front
porch
and
a
smaller
gable
that
has
a
lower
bearing
height
and
in
the
back,
we're
providing
a
main
level
pergola
to
try
to
reduce
the
height
of
that
back
wall.
The
massing
also
drops
down
along
that
interior
north
property
line,
where
it
sits
adjacent
to
the
lower
two-story
apartment
building
the
garage
bearing
several
feet
lower
than
the
main
house,
which
reduces
the
mass
of
the
house
at
that
side
and
along
the
South
elevation.
Y
We've
wrapped
a
lower
floor,
eave
along
the
entire
length
of
the
wall,
to
break
up
that
wall
and
to
break
up
the
massing
for
this
project.
We
have
met
all
the
required
setbacks
and
the
parking
requirements
we're
below
the
35%
lock
coverage
limit
at
32.3%.
We
are
well
below
the
55%
sub
standard
limit
at
just
47.2%.
Y
We
have
provided
24%,
more
open
space
than
is
required,
and
the
peak
of
the
house
is
four
feet
below
the
height
limitation
for
this
zone.
We've
done
all
of
this,
while
meeting
famous,
pretty
stringent
height
requirements
for
new
construction
in
the
flood
zone,
commissioner
costs
kate
earlier
expressed
concern
about
projects
that
pushed
or
exceeded
all
the
boundaries.
At
the
same
time,
and
in
this
situation
we're
not
exceeding
any
of
those
limitations,
we
feel
that
we've
proposed
a
historically
harmonious
home
with
a
lot
of
character
and
quality
materials.
Y
We've
met
the
requirements
of
the
zone
and
a
great
number
of
the
historic
guidelines
and
historic
staff
has
recommended
approval.
For
these
reasons,
we
feel
this
home
would
be
an
asset
to
the
neighborhood
and
I'm
happy
now
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
for
me
and
then
let
Pippa
and
Brian
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
about.
The
lot
split
itself.
O
Man
I'm
Karen,
have
like
one
quick
question
sure,
commissioner,
it's
a
beaut
I'm
not
have
an
issue
that
gives
you
with
the
deck
on
the
south
side
of
the
house.
Y
D
D
S
We'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
also
give
this
little
explanation
very
quickly.
We
requested
this
I
guess
this
is
better
word
for,
but
a
lot
split
or
a
division
of
the
three
existing
slots
that
are
there
so
that
we
could
build
single-family
house.
As
you
look
at
the
pictures,
maybe
from
the
corner
of
Borah
and
17th
you'll
see
a
big
and
of
wide
open
space.
S
We
really
like
the
older
could
start
contributing
existing
house.
It's
on
the
extreme
bottom
left
bottom
right,
corner
I'm
an
alley
and
would
like
to
keep
it
and,
in
fact
perhaps
after
you
know,
we're
kind
of
back
in
more
plans
with
at
the
city
has
agreed
to
our
block,
split
and
asked
for
before
we
put
a
carport
or
parking
for
the
existing
house
off
of
the
alley.
They
wanted
to
see
these
plans
for
what
we
would
do
lot.
S
You
know
the
newly
created
lot.
I
guess
is
the
way
I
would
put
that.
So
it
is
our
intention
to
have
alley
parking
for
the
existing
work
house
and
all
of
the
historic
house
air
and
the
garage
which
is
part
of
the
park
Sherwood.
It's
an
historic
we
would
like
to
much
as
well,
and
we
felt
like
you
know
this
design
would
accomplish
that
without
impeding
access
to
the
alley
for
the
folks
that
live
in,
that
existing
contributing
house.
S
D
J
J
S
Last
we
met
with
this
vision
was
to
meet
with
or
committee
and
pending
approval
from
the
plan.
We
were
submitting
that
we
can
continue
to
use
these
that
sting
driveway.
The
existing
curb
cut
on
the
new
newly
created
lot
from
the
online
adjustment
and
have
the
old
house
access
its
parking
from
the
alley.
D
Ok,
I'm
not
hearing
or
seeing
anything.
So
thank
you
very
much,
sherry
Picasso
from
Lena.
Are
you
still
here?
Yes,
you
have
anything
to
say
on
behalf
of
Nina.
Oh.
T
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
I
can
okay
nina
wishes
to
be
a
party,
a
record
in
support
of
this
project
with
staffs
conditions
for
approval,
fantastic.
D
D
Help,
oh
great
Aaron.
Are
you
here,
Oh
fantastic,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
You
have
three
minutes.
M
It's
Erin
Logan
and
it's
21,
16
or
17
and
I
do
I
think
that
house
design
looks
like
it
would
be
perfect
for
the
neighborhood
I
was
just
take,
I
was
looking
for
the
Lincoln
land
and
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
one
and
I
thought
for
new
construction.
You
needed
to
present
a
landscape
plan.
I
am
concerned
that
you
know
we
need
more
trees
and
I.
M
D
Hopefully,
the
applicant
can
address
that
when
they
come
forward
for
their
rebuttal.
G
D
Y
If
it's
a
point
of
contention
I,
we
can
talk
to
the
bailiffs
about
keeping
them,
because
the
lot
is
small
actually
to
make
as
much
outdoor
living
space
as
we
can
for
their
backyard,
and
that
was
one
reason
we
were
taking
those
those
trees
out
the
big
tree
in
the
front.
We
would
love
to
keep.
It
may
take
some
creativity
on
the
part
of
the
sidewalk
location
to
locate
a
sidewalk
that
doesn't
require
the
removal
of
that
tree.
Y
That
tree
sits
about
the
center
line
and
that
tree
sits
about
1
foot,
7
off
the
front
property
line.
So
at
that
point
the
sidewalk
would
have
to
veer
toward
the
street,
and
you
know
it
would
be
sad
to
lose
that
tree
for
this
sidewalk
sidewalks.
They
don't
have
deep
footing.
So
if
we
could
just
get
it
away
from
the
tree,
I
think
we
could
probably
save
it.
Y
Don't
plan
we've
never
had
to
provide
a
landscape
plan
or
historic
submit
all
we
don't
generally
have
the
landscape
worked
out
at
the
point
where
we're
we
don't
even
have
construction
documents
at
this
point.
So
it's
not
something.
We've
been
asked
for
before.
If
the
city
would
like
to
see
something
schematic,
I'm
sure
we
could
put
something
together,
but
it's
most
likely
going
to
change,
as
as
the
owners
start
to
really
think
about
outdoor
spaces
and
how
they're
going
to
use
them.
D
D
D
D
Okay,
I'm
not
hearing
any
so
well
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
C
G
D
You
the
next
item
before
us
this
evening
is
item
number
six
d:
rh
q,
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero,
six
five:
this
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
construct
a
two-story
single-family
structure
in
detached
garage
and
associated
site
improvements.
The
project
is
located
at
1716
north
20th
street,
and
you
will
now
hear
from
staff.
C
B
B
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
As
you
mentioned,
the
quest
is
for
a
two-story
single-family
structure
with
detached
garage
on
a
large
corner
lot
in
the
expanded
north
end
historic
district.
As
you
can
see,
the
lot
is
vacant.
Currently
previously,
a
couple
years
ago
there
was
a
ranch-style
house
demolished
in
2017,
and
some
of
the
commissioners
might
remember
this
lot
at
the
time.
B
We
just
talked
about
the
underlying
lots
of
record
on
the
previous
application.
This
lot
has
a
couple
of
underlying
lots
of
record
that
an
applicant
had
proposed
to
bring
forward
and
to
adjust
and
to
put
to
sub-standard
to
create
two
substandard
Lots
here
and
those
were
actually
approved.
So
we
had
two
one
and
a
half
story:
substandard
or
two
one
and
a
half
story,
structures
that
were
approved
with
detached
garages
and
accessory
dwelling
units
that
project
never
came
through.
B
The
house,
the
new
house,
will
be
oriented
towards
20th
Street
with
the
garage
taking
access
from
the
rear
alley
to
the
east.
Lot
coverage
will
be
at
33%,
which
is
below
the
35%
recommended
in
the
guidelines.
Now
on
this
project,
all
the
required
backup
or
I'm
sorry
required.
Setbacks
are
proposed
to
be
met,
and
you
can
see
the
site
plan
here
as
20th
Street
is
here
where
a
will
front
and
it
is
a
corner
lot
and
the
garage
will
take
side
access
off
of
the
street
to
the
north.
B
As
you
can
see
from
this
elevation,
the
house
will
be
two
storeys
with
three
front
facing
gables.
It
will
be
a
large
house
or
the
neighborhood,
which
is
largely
one
and
one-half
one-story
in
one
and
a
half
story
houses
mostly
in
this
area.
However,
the
architecture
does
include
quite
a
bit
of
modulation
that
breaks
up
the
massing,
including
the
use
of
the
dormers
and
the
shorter
second-level
walls.
In
addition
to
this
being
a
very
large
lot
for
the
north
end,.
B
So
property
to
the
west
you'll
see
some
one
and
a
half
story.
Homes.
The
property
adjacent
to
the
south
is
a
in
your
upper
right
hand.
Picture
is
a
non-contributing
was
a
non
contributing
single
level
structure
that
the
historic
Commission
approved
for
demolition
a
couple
of
months
ago,
and
it
is
being
reconstructed
with
a
one
and
a
half
story
house.
B
B
B
B
There
might
be
some
on
the
you
know,
within
the
block
area
or
across
the
alley,
or
something
like
that,
but
generally
when
we're
looking
at
massing,
we're
looking
at
the
the
houses
adjacent
and
the
houses
along
the
block
front,
the
applicant
on
the
first
application
you
heard
tonight
mentioned
two
stories
across
the
alley
and
on
the
other
side
of
the
block,
you
know-
and
you
know
that's
fine-
that
to
give
examples
of
that.
But
you
know
when
we're
reviewing
these.
B
We
really
should
just
be
looking
at
what
what
the
surrounding
context
is
and
and
immediately
in
this
area
there
aren't
any
as
far
as
I
know
that
I
did
I
have
seen
two-story,
full
two-story
structures
and
again
you
know,
I
explained
the
reasons
that
we
decided
to
go
ahead
and
recommend
approval.
Is
that
is
a
corner
in
law,
a
very
large
corner
lot,
which
does
require
increased
setbacks
off
of
the
street,
mitigating
some
of
that
mass
and
then
the
the
modulation
breakup
of
the
building.
L
B
D
D
Z
Z
Address
the
point
Ted
did
mention:
this
will
be
a
large
house
on
the
block,
but
this
is
by
far
the
largest
lot
on
the
block
and
it
we
are
under
lot
coverage.
We
have.
We
are
on
three
of
the
setbacks
beyond
the
minimum
requirement,
even
on
the
South
property
line,
where
it's
a
five-foot
step
back.
We
are
nine
foot
with
a
couple
seven
foot
bump
out,
so
we
are
not
pushing
the
boundaries
on
this
property.
Z
Excuse
me:
I
got
a
little
technical
thing
happening
here,
so
I
want
to
state
in
the
guidelines,
and
it
says-
and
this
is
also
in
the
staff
report
from
guideline
five
point-
five
point:
three:
when
new
houses
are
larger
than
adjacent
or
neighboring
houses,
they
must
be
designed
in
a
way
that
breaks
up
the
massing
and
that's
exactly
what
we
did
on
this
house.
We
have
broken
it
up.
There
is
really
no
two-story
wall
on
this
house
and
we
have
wrapped
it
with
a
single-story
porch.
Z
The
space
on
the
north
that
doesn't
have
the
porch
is
actually
considered
a
story
and
a
half,
because
the
pony
walls
are
only
two
and
a
half
feet
tall.
So
we
on
on
all
three
sides
of
the
house
that
are
visible.
We
have
reduced
it
down
to
as
a
kind
of
a
transition
from
the
street
up
to
the
technical
term
of
a
two-story
house.
Z
So
it
has
a
lot
of
the
elements
of
a
story
and
a
half
granted.
Yes,
it
is
bigger
and
has
more
than
one
dormer.
The
dormers
are
bigger
than
10
feet,
but
also
those
dormers
are
designed
to
match
the
rooms
below
to
be
in
proportion
with
the
house.
So
you
know
and
actually
have
a
usable
room
on
the
inside.
Z
Z
Let
me
think
of
some
of
my
other
points
here.
I
want
to,
but
one
thing
I
do
want
to
bring
up
is
that
we
would
like
to
keep
the
metal
roofing
on
the
porch.
There
has
been
a
lot
of
approved
new
homes
with
the
entire
roof
as
a
metal
roof
in
the
last
few
years.
In
fact,
I've
done
a
couple
of
them,
so
I
know
they
exist
and
there's
two
and
on
the
street.
Z
Z
D
D
T
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
I
can
same
as
before
in
the
earlier
items,
Nina
wishes
to
be
a
party
of
record
for
any
items
regarding
massing
issues
and
what's
a
common
concern
for
surrounding
neighbors
warehouses
are
single-story
or
one
and
a
half
is
to
have
such
a
large
two-story
structure
that
kind
of
Dwarfs
them
so
Nina
just
wishes
to
be
a
party
of
record
for
this
one
in
regards
to
its
size,
relative
to
the
neighboring
houses,
great.
D
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
anything.
The
only
person
we
had
to
sign
up
for
this
application
are
the
applicants.
F
AA
My
name
is
Sara
I'm,
the
spokesperson
they're
too
nervous,
but
they're
joseph
mary
for
her.
They
live
in
1303,
North,
sixth
Street
right
now,
and
they're
they're,
pretty
nervous,
so
I'm
gonna
kind
of
take
over
a
little
bit
for
them.
They
just
wanted
to
say
that
they
are
really
excited
to
build
their
first
home
in
the
north
end
and
they
really
trust,
that's
expertise
on
the
home
and
the
massing.
AA
D
Okay,
seeing
and
hearing
none
and
seeing
and
hearing
no
further.
E
D
Thank
you,
I
guess.
I
have
a
few
comments,
mainly
I.
D
L
Also,
do
need
to
take
into
consideration
the
size
of
the
lot
and
also
the
location
of
the
structure
within
a
lot.
I
think
they've
pushed
it
back
far
enough
into
the
lot
that
the
massing
is,
it's
gonna
be
minimized.
The
I,
don't
think
is
gonna
have
quite
the
impact
as
a
would
if
it
were
a
smaller
lot,
located
closer
to
the
setbacks
or
or
mashing
like
the
no
setbacks,
the
fact
allowances
I
think
the
the
design
was
was
was
carefully
done
and
thoughtfully
done
with.
L
You
know,
like
the
African
said,
with
the
with
the
first
story,
single
story,
wraparound
porch
story
and
a
half
sections
of
the
home.
There
are
some
two
story:
sections
at
home,
but
overall
I
believe
the
design
was
was
done,
sensitively
and
I
fit
I
think
it
fits
the
the
size
of
the
lot
well,
especially
with
its
considering
its
location
on
a
lot
I.
J
Madam
chair
I
would
to
comment
I'm
gonna
agree
with
Commissioner
Richter
on
much.
He
said
this
is
a
lot
is
quite
large.
It
is
a
corner
lot.
I
think
the
design
is
very
thoughtfully
done,
taking
and
consider
all
those
in
consideration
of
all
those
things.
I
do
have
a
question
for
the
rest
of
the
Commission
about
the
metal
roof
detail.
I
know
it's
not
approved
roofing
material.
J
O
Proving
one
because
it's
not
an
approved
roofing
material,
the
fact
that
it's
only
on
the
roof
of
the
porch
potentially
be
considered
that
it's
not
really
a
roof.
It's
more
of
that
because
it's
a
you
know
an
accent
roof
over
the
park,
and
generally
it's
not
as
far
as
I
know,
we've
never
approved
one
and
it's
a
not
an
improvement.
So
I
would
think
that
sticking
with
that,
we
wouldn't
approve
that
them
to
keep
the
metal
roof
over
the
court.
D
Thank
You
Commissioner
Weaver,
my
thought,
which
you
touched
on,
is
that
it
would
be
an
accent
piece
and
could
be
removed,
so
it
isn't
something
that
would
necessarily
be
permanent
to
the
structure,
which
is
why
I
personally
don't
have
an
issue
with
it,
but
I
suppose
I'm
indifferent
either
way.
Does
anyone
have
any
additional
comments
on
that
or
would
like
to
make
a
motion?
Madam.
L
Chair
Commissioner,
Richard,
III
I
mean
I,
know,
I
I
can
name
exactly
what
applications
were
approved
or
not
approved
because
of
metal
roofs,
but
I
thought
I.
Remember:
there's
been
the
number
of
projects
that
have
come
before
us
with
no
roofing
that
have
been
built
with
that.
With
that
detail
in
the
application
personally
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
nice
detail,
I
think
it's
an
accent
that
really
helps
the
design
of
the
home
and
I.
Think
by
removing
that
detail
would
wouldn't
minimize
the
design
a
little
bit.
C
J
O
G
D
You,
the
next
item
we
have
on
our
agenda.
This
hanging
appreciate
you
all
it's
a
long
evening,
so
tip.
C
Dad,
madam
chair,
if
I,
could
just
jump
in
real
quick
we're
a
couple
hours
in
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
kind
of
interest
in
us
in
a
short
break,
it's
kind
of
a
long
time
to
stare
at
a
computer
screen
I,
so
I'd
throw
that
out.
There.
D
D
Okay,
I'm
not
super
familiar
with
how
breaks
work
on
zoom.
Do
we
just
let's.
D
D
D
D
Okay,
I'm
gonna
call
the
meeting
back
to
order
and
we
are
gonna
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
and
that
is
item
number
seven
DRH:
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero,
seven
eight.
This
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
demolish
a
non-contributing
one-story
single-family
structure
with
attached
garage
and
to
construct
a
one-story
single-family
structure
with
attached
garage
and
associate
site
improvements
located
at
601
West
Sherman
Street,
and
we
will
now
hear
from
staff.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
Commission.
The
application
is
to
demo
demolish
an
existing
ranch-style
house
and
construct
a
new,
similarly
styled
house
on
the
lot
generally
in
the
same
footprint,
with
a
few
few
changes
again,
the
existing
is
a
ranch-style
with
an
attached
garage
on
the
west
side
was
the
alley
runs
along
the
west
as
well.
B
I'll
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
site
plans.
This
is
proposed
and
existing
the
existing
and
proposed
the
they're
generally
in
the
same
footprint,
with
some
widths,
with
some
differences
and
I'll
show
you
later
on
the
elevations
that
this
style
is
going
to
be
pretty
close
to
the
same
as
well.
One
of
the
issues
with
this
or
one
of
the
I
guess
things
to
consider
is
the
applicant
was
originally
going
to
remodel
the
house
and
they
liked
the
way
it
looked.
B
They
liked
the
style
they
were
going
to
remodel
it
and
as
they
dove
into
the
remodeling
process.
They
discovered
that
there
was
a
lot
of
structural
issues
with
the
house
to
a
point
to
where
remodeling
became
infeasible
and
they
were
gonna
have
to
just
demolish
it,
but
because
they
liked
the
the
style
and
everything
they
wanted
to
generally
keep
it
the
same
same
style.
B
B
B
B
And
here
are
some
photos
of
some
surrounding
houses.
You
can
see
here
we're
almost
having
the
opposite
issue.
We've
had
on
some
of
the
other
applications.
We
have
a
one-story
house
proposed,
one-story
ranch
style
house
proposed
with
taller
houses
around
it,
so
you
have
two-story
structures
and
one
and
a
half
story
structures
around
it.
That's
not
a
problem.
It's
just
a
reverse
kind
of
thing
that
we're
dealing
with
now
and
this
one.
J
B
So
street
side
access
can
be
15
feet.
They
are
adding
bump
out
tonight.
I
apologize
in
the
report
I
in
my
setback
in
the
section
where
I
put
the
setback
site
confused
the
issue
with
that.
But
on
this
front
for
living
space,
front
and
street
side
access
can
be
15
feet,
so
they
do
still
meet
that
setback.
AB
D
AB
This
this
is
a
Steve
hotline
and
I
live
at
6:01
Sherman
good
evening,
madam
chair
and
commissioners
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
while
we've
lived
here
since
1999
and
plan
to
continue
living
here
for
the
foreseeable
future,
I'm
not
sure
if
that
brought
this
up
or
not.
But
this
project
was
really
precipitated
by
a
flood
in
our
home.
That
said,
y'all
may
want
to
kind
of
keep
an
eye
on
your
washing
machine
ketosis.
AB
AB
D
Z
Z
So
this
is
a
ranch
house,
Kate
and
Steve
love.
The
ranch
house
like
he
said
and
we
were
and
our
intent
was
to
remodel
so
the
biggest
issue.
Besides,
the
flood
was
that
the
plate
height
was
just
barely
over
seven
feet
in
the
house
and
to
add
height
to
the
wall,
you're,
basically
rebuilding
every
wall
and
with
a
brick
wall.
It's
very
hard
to
just
you,
can't
just
cut
openings
and
break
or
Philbrick
in
and
make
it
look
right,
especially
you
know
of
a
specific
age,
brick.
Z
Z
One
of
the
issues
was
to
keep
the
curb
cut
and,
as
Ted
said,
it's
already
there
its
existing
and
if,
if
Ted,
if
you
can
go
back
to
all
right,
that's
a
good
photo.
So
if
you
look
at
the
property
directly
to
the
west,
it
has
a
curb
cut
going
onto
the
street.
The
property
directly
to
the
north
has
a
curb
cut
directly
going
onto
the
street
and
the
property
to
the
on
the
northeast
corner
of
those
four
also
has
a
curb
cut
going
on
the
street.
So
it's
it's
again.
Z
A
precedent
has
set
that
there
are
four
curb
cuts
on
this
corner
of
the
alley.
So
it's
and
the
fact
that
it's
already
there
we've
we
felt
it
definitely
asked
to
keep
it.
I,
guess
and
and
also
the
other
issue
was
had
we
gone
on
the
alley.
We
would
have
to
eliminate
all
those
streets.
So
that's
I,
think
that
is
all.
Unless
you
have
questions
I.
D
G
Z
O
Z
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
yes,
so
that
tree
and
that
actually
was
one
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
add
more
windows.
That
is
a
it's
a
big
evergreen
and
actually
Kate
and
Steve
planted
that
when
they
first
moved
in
and
it
was
so
dark
because
it's
on
the
north
side
and
it
just
blocks
everything,
so
we
have
proposed
to
do
a
little
privacy
courtyard
there
and
again
you
can
see
there's
a
lot
of
trees
on
this
lot
so
to
allow
more
light
into
the
house,
they
were
willing
to
give
up
that,
for
you.
Z
D
T
D
Okay,
not
seeing
or
hearing
anything
and,
let's
see
here,
I,
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
signed
up
to
testify.
Is
there
anyone
from
the
public
wishing
to
testify
regarding
this
application?
If
so,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
AB
D
D
Okay,
and
with
that,
we
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
and
render
a
decision
do.
I
have
a
motion
or
any
discussion.
J
E
G
D
A
commissioner
by
another
Kirchner
I
thought
I
heard
another
one
Erica
erica
great
and
before
before
we
vote,
I
would
just
like
to
acknowledge
that
it
is
pretty
rare
for
us
to
receive
an
application
that
is
using
an
existing
foundation
on
a
new
construction.
H
F
O
H
O
D
And
the
next
item
we
have
in
our
agenda
this
evening
is
item
number
eight
Jerry:
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero,
eight.
This
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
demolish
a
non-contributing
two-story
office
building
and
to
construct
a
two-story
single
family
structure
with
attached
garage
and
associated
site
improvements
located
at
five
one,
six
West
Franklin
Street,
and
we
will
not
hear
from
staff.
D
B
You,
madam
chair
members
of
the
Commission,
the
project
is
located
in
the
hasty
in
the
Hayes,
Street,
historic
district
and
in
an
area
that
is
zoned
light
office.
Many
of
the
traditional
or
historic
structures
in
this
area
have
been
converted
to
office
in
multifamily
uses
over
time.
Existing
building
on
site
was
constructed
in
about
1972
as
an
art,
deco
style
office
building
and
is
non-contributing
in
the
district.
A
single-family
structure
is
located
adjacent
to
the
west
and
a
multi-family
structure
located
adjacent
to
the
east.
As
you
can
see
here,.
B
The
lot
is
quite
large
I'm
at
about
a
hundred
and
feet
100
feet
in
width
and
120
in
depth
and,
as
you
can
see
from
the
proposed
site
plan,
the
footprint
the
building
will
be
fairly
extensive,
but
at
26%
locked
coverage
will
still
remain
below
the
35
required
in
the
guidelines.
Additionally,
the
house
will
exceed
the
side
setback,
leaving
additional
space
between
properties.
The
front
setback
appears
to
be
about
30
feet.
B
This
sets
the
house
further
back
from
the
street
that
is
typically
desired
in
the
guidelines
and
in
the
code
a
15
to
20
foot
setback
would
be
more
appropriate
and
would
improve
the
street
presence
of
the
house.
The
garage
will
be
located
adjacent
to
the
alley
and
will
actually
be
attached
to
the
house
via
a
breezeway.
B
As
you
can
see,
the
house
is
designed
to
be
quite
modern,
with
a
flat
roof
plains
and
horizontal
and
vertical
design
elements
design
elements,
though
the
house
is
large,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
modulation,
incorporated
into
the
design
which
effectively
breaks
up
the
massing,
presenting
a
less
massive
appearing
structure.
Overall,
the
size
and
massing
of
the
structure
on
this
large
lot
is
not
altogether
inappropriate.
B
However,
staff
finds
the
design
of
the
project
to
be
problematic
for
the
historic
district,
though
the
guidelines
state
of
state
that
modern
elements
may
be
introduced
in
new
construction,
this
design
may
be
too
much
of
an
outlier
and
not
compliant
with
the
spirit
of
the
guidelines.
The
commission
has,
in
the
past,
allowed
more
modern
elements
and
new
construction.
However,
there
is
typically
an
underlying
compatibility
with
the
historic
district,
for
instance,
constructing
a
new
building
that
is
congruous
with
the
district,
but
incorporates
or
blends
more
modern
elements
with
traditional
elements
has
been
found
to
be
acceptable.
B
B
B
These
are
the
properties
to
the
west,
which
are
more
traditionally
designed
styled
single-family
homes,
but
probably
used
as
office
or
multi-family,
and
the
bottom
left
picture
you'll
see
that's
actually
across
the
street
across
Franklin
Street,
so
an
office
building
modern
designed
office
building
the
picture
on
the
lower
right
is
actually
located
off
of
the
alley
that
was
approved.
I
can't
remember
a
couple
years
ago
this
this
structure
was
approved,
but
it
is
not
readily
visible.
This
section
of
the
the
house
is
not
readily
visible
from
the
street.
B
So
some
of
the
concerns
with
this
project
use
massing
and
form
similar
to
neighboring
buildings.
There's
it's
kind
of
hit
and
miss
with
that
one.
There
are
neighboring
buildings
where
that
are
quite
large
and
and
more
modern
in
style,
but
right
next
to
it
and
and
across
the
alley-
and
you
know
in
the
surrounding
blocks,
the
the
massing
is
more
of
the
historic
and
traditional
styles,
but
you
certainly
can
find
an
eclectic
array
of
structures
of
massing,
's
and
styles.
B
They
use
design
elements
such
as
roof
roof
forms
lines,
openings
and
other
characteristics
commonly
found
in
the
historic
district
have
a
building
form
which
is
unique
in
the
district,
but
relates
to
the
neighboring
buildings
and
to
the
neighborhood.
So
an
argument
could
be
made.
You
know
that
maybe
it
relates
to
the
office
building
across
the
street
or
to
the
the
multifamily
to
the
east.
But
in
general
the
historic
district
you
know
exists
due
to
the
historic
structures,
historic
traditional
structures
constructed
in
the
period
of
significance.
B
The
next
one,
it's
appropriate
to
use,
massing
and
building
forms
which
are
completely
foreign
to
the
historic
district,
inappropriate
to
use,
massing
and
forms
which
are
completely
foreign
to
the
historic
district.
Uniform
setbacks
and
building
spacings
should
be
maintained
in
new
construction.
So.
B
Of
the
points
of
the
guidelines
that
we
kind
of
looked
at
and
and
like
I
said,
there's
an
argument
to
be
made
that
there's
enough
going
on
in
this
eclectic
neighborhood
that
that
it
might
fit.
But
this
one
we
went
a
little
conservative
with
our
determination
and
and
determined
that
the
intent
of
the
guidelines
may
be
has
not
met
with
this
very
modern
style.
B
Staff
recommends
denial
of
DRH
2082
due
to
the
issues
expressed
in
the
commission
packet.
I
did
make
a
note
here
if
the
new
construction
is
if
the
design
of
the
new
construction
is
denied,
the
applicant
would
like
to
request
approval
to
demolish
the
existing
office
building
and
come
back
later
with
designs
that
are
acceptable
to
the
Commission
Thank
You.
D
B
B
In
the
60s,
maybe-
and
then
the
one
in
the
upper
right
is
obviously
a
more
modern
construction,
but
I
didn't
look
at
all
of
them.
I
so
I'm,
not
a
hundred
percent
sure,
but
I
going
around
and
looking
at
them
and
being
familiar
with
the
neighborhood
I.
Don't
think
any
of
them
would
have
been
considered
contributing
I'm.
D
Looking
at
the
page
just
for
reference,
page
330
of
the
packet-
and
it
looks
like
there's
a
couple
of
properties
adjacent
to
the
west-
yes,
the
ones
that
are
in
the
upper
right-hand
corner
and
I
mean
clearly
those
are
most
likely,
not
office
spaces.
Those
appeared
to
be
residential,
perhaps
even
multi-family,
but
I'm
I
was
just
curious
to
see,
because
this
is
a
very
eclectic
block
and
I
guess.
That's
that's
my
only
question.
Are
there
any
other
questions
for
Ted.
D
Z
Hello,
it's
me
again,
you've
been
busy,
I
have
been
very
busy,
and
so
thank
you,
I
promise.
This
is
my
last
one
tonight
so
just
to
answer
the
question
on
the
adjacent
properties
to
the
left,
real
quick,
the
one
directly
to
the
West,
is
used
as
a
residence.
Z
The
one
next
to
that
I
believe
is
the
conservation
league
of
Idaho
or
something,
but
it
is
a
business
just
just
throw
that
out
there
but
and
I
know
I'm
pressing
the
limits
here
on
a
contemporary
style,
but
just
give
me
a
minute
I'm
going
to
try
and
convince
you
guys
that
a
contemporary
design
can
be
Congress
with
this
particular
neighborhood
and,
first
of
all,
just
first
off.
Just
as
Ted
had
stated,
this
is
a
very
diverse
neighborhood.
Z
Z
Again,
it's
just
not
your
typical
North
End,
East,
End,
residential
historic
neighborhood,
the
guidelines.
As
the
staff
report
stated,
it
is
preferable
to
design
a
Congress
contemporary
structure
rather
than
duplicate
or
mimic
the
design
of
historic
buildings.
So
you
know
we
were
going
that
route
and
also
the
staff
report
states.
A
building
form
may
be
created
which
is
unique
in
the
district,
but
relates
to
the
neighborhood
in
massing
and
that's
exactly
what
we
tried
to
do.
Z
It's
it's
offices
as
businesses
as
parking
lots,
and
but
it's
a
house
and
it's
broken
up
and
it's
it's
got
all
sorts
of
elevations
and
things
going
on.
So
that
was
the
approach
we
took
and
I
guess
a
couple
of
one
of
the
letters
and
there's
been
a
quite
a
few
of
them
in
support,
but
one
of
them
is
from
local
architects,
sherry,
McKibben
and
Doug,
Cooper
and
I
know.
This
was
in
your
packet,
but
I'm
just
going
to
do
a
little
quote
from
their
nice
letter.
Z
P
Name
is
Jim
Chalfont
and
our
address
is
three:
nine
five,
zero
North
hackberry
way,
Boise
I
think
did
a
good
job
describing
the
neighborhood.
This
is
this
neighborhood
is
eclectic
and
it
is
right
on
the
scene
between
downtown
and
and
what
most
people
might
think
of
as
the
North
End,
so
literally
one
side
of
the
street,
maybe
a
business
building
or
a
government
building
and
on
the
other,
maybe
a
residence.
P
So
this
home
is
is
really
blending.
What's
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
just
wanted
to
this.
As
a
side
note,
the
house
to
the
west
is
a
residence,
but
it's
currently
being
proposed
as
a
hair
salon.
So
that's
how
transitionary
this
neighborhood
is,
but
so
that
was
our
whole
idea
is
to
I
know
both
some
people
refer
to
it
as
a
contemporary
design
and
I
believe
it
is,
but
it's
really
more.
In
my
view,
it's
kind
of
an
urban
contemporary
which
is
very
fitting
for
the
neighborhood.
D
You
mr.
cha,
want
Beth.
Do
you
have
anything
further
I
do
not.
Thank
you.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
did
have
one
quick
question
for
you.
It's
just
to
clarify.
So
the
current
on
building
square
footage
is
just
under
8,000
square
feet.
Is
that
right?
Oh.
Z
D
Z
Yes
and
and
I
might
have
Jim
chimed
in
on
this
too.
It's
you
know,
we've
got
these
planters
in
front
again
to
kind
of
do
this,
stair,
stepping
and
and
and
they
really
don't
want,
a
a
really
big
backyard.
Now
it's
actually
fairly
close
to
the
house
on
the
the
west.
As
far
as
the
front
setback,
it
might
be
back
a
few
feet,
so
I
mean
we
would
certainly
address
that
and
I
don't
know
if
you
can
tell,
because
the
existing
building
is
40
feet
back
from
the
front
property
line.
Z
J
J
J
Z
Again,
it's
not
your
typical
North
End
bungalow,
with
a
detached
garage.
This
up
and
as
you
can
see,
we
admit
we
have
minimized
the
connected
piece
and
we're
kind
of
treating
it
as
kind
of
almost
a
glass
breezeway
through
there.
Now
that
building
directly
to
the
east
is
a
large,
it's
a
long,
I
should
say
parking
garage
for
the
apartments.
Z
D
No
okay,
Cherie
are
you
here
still
from
Nina
I'm.
T
D
B
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Let's
see
here
on
the
signup
sheet,
I
don't
have
anyone
signed
up
other
than
best
to
testify.
Is
there
any
member
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
regarding
this
application?
If
so,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
Okay,.
D
I'm
not
seeing
anything
Beth
would
you
or
mr.
Chalfont
like
to
have
a
few
minutes
for
rebuttal.
Z
Let
me
think
here:
I
guess
the
the
lack
of
neighborhood
opposition
is,
you
know,
speaks
highly
of
this
being
or
I
guess
the
neighbors
are
excited
to
get
rid
of
the
existing
building
and
put
a
residence
here
so
that
you
know,
and
no
one
yeah.
So
the
fact
that
the
the
the
neighbors
are
in
support
of
this
I
think
speaks
highly
of
it
and
that's
all.
Z
Z
D
You
all
hear
me:
I
can
hear
you
now.
Okay,
sorry,
I
think
I
was
talking,
but
no
one.
D
So
I
suppose,
if
there's,
if
there's
nothing
further
from
you
Beth
or
from
mr.
Chow
font,
we
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
and
render
decision.
I
do
have
a
few
comments.
I
suppose
before
we
I
will
entertain
a
motion
when
I
first
looked
at
the
pocket.
D
The
design
really
struck
me
as
something
you
and
I
guess.
I
suppose
I
was
just
kind
of
shocked,
but
then,
as
I
was
looking
through
the
rest
of
the
pocket
and
seeing
the
different
photos
included
of
inspiration
from
different
historic
properties
within
the
North
End
I
felt
much
more
at
ease
and
I
suppose
more
comfortable
with
it,
and
then
also
you
know,
going
back
and
looking
at
the
actual
black
face
of
the
property
in
question.
I
felt
I,
don't
know
just
more
comfortable
with
the
idea
of
this
residential
property
going
in
there.
D
L
Had
the
same
well
kind
of
the
same
feeling
as
you
when
we
first
took
this
application,
I
knew
right
away
looking
at
this
application,
this
was
a
pretty
bold
statement
and
an
appropriate
statement
for
the
location
for
this.
For
this
building,
this
home
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
location
of
this
home,
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
building
that
it
should
be
replacing,
and
you
know
due
to
the
eclecticism
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
surrounding
structures,
I
think
the
design
of
this
home
I
think
would
fit
really
well.
Although.
D
G
J
G
J
D
Great,
does
anyone
have
anything
further
to
discuss
before
we
call
the
roll.
D
No
okay
will
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll
on.
C
D
Thank
you
very
much.
We
have
1
2
3
4
items
left.
So
the
next
item
we'll
be
hearing,
is
item
number
9,
DRH,
0,
0,
0,
1,
1
9.
This
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
demolish
a
detached
garage
and
construct
a
two-story
detached
garage
with
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
associated
site
improvements
located
at
24,
25,
West,
Ellis
Street,
and
now
we
will
hear
from
stuffed.
B
As
we're
getting
pretty
late
in
the
spirit
of
respecting
the
time
of
our
commissioners
and
our
applicants,
I
think
I'm
going
to
go
pretty
quickly
and
on
some
of
these,
just
tell
you
that
we're
recommending
approval
with
conditions
and
then
allow
understand
for
questions
so
I
think
I'll
go
ahead
and
do
that
with
with
these
and
I'll
just
stand
for
questions.
Save
the
time
from
the
presentation.
You've
looked
at
these
in
the
packet,
so
you're
I
think
you're
familiar
with
them.
B
D
Okay
same
hearing
none,
we
will
now
hear
from
the
applicant.
D
Sure,
if
the
applicant
is
present,
would
you
please
raise
your
virtually
raise
your
hand.
D
AC
AC
While
we
thought
about
doing
this,
we
wanted
to
investigate
being
able
to
put
an
Adu
on
top
of
it
well
initially
discussing
the
idea
with
planners.
A
few
months
ago,
we
hit
on
the
basic
design
yeah
trying
to
make
the
proposed
new
structure
appear
to
be
a
one
and
a
half
story
structure.
Hence
the
design
I
have
submitted.
AD
Thank
you.
It
out.
My
name
is
Karen
Bob
I'm.
The
client
I
would
just
like
to
add
that
the
there
was
a
question
regarding
the
ability
to
reuse
the
existing
structure
and
the
structure
has
no
cement
floor.
It's
a
dirt
floor
and
there's
no
real
foundations.
It's
just
on
blocks,
so
there
was
there's.
No.
The
foundation
has
to
be
poured
new
because
there
isn't
a
substantial
enough
foundation
for
the
structure.
The
the
roof
is:
has
several
holes
and
needs
to
be
redone,
so
there's
two
to
try
to
renovate
the
structure
doesn't
make
sense.
AD
D
Okay,
I'm
seeing
and
hearing
none.
Thank
you
very
much.
Sharon's
still
here
here,
I
still
here,
hi
sherry.
Do
you
have
anything
to
say
I'm
happy
just
that.
D
D
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
anything
if
the
applicant
has
anything
further,
they
would
like
to
add.
Please
do
so
I.
AD
D
D
Okay,
it
does
not
appear
so
so
with
that
we
will
go
ahead
and
close.
The
hearing
and
render
decision
do
I
have
any
discussion
or
motion.
L
K
D
D
Okay,
great
well,
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll
on.
C
C
D
C
K
C
D
D
Thank
you.
The
next
item
we
have
this
evening
is
DRH
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero
one
three
zero:
this
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
construct
a
second
story
edition
to
the
existing
garage
with
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
associated
site
improvements
located
at
1611
10th
Street
Ted.
Can
we
please
have
the
report?
Thank.
J
B
You
know
on
on
the
substantive
lot:
it's
given
plant
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
design
of
the
structure,
and
they
probably
the
appropriateness
of
the
use
and
the
design.
The
historic
Commission,
as
previously
stated,
has
the
ability
to
wide
the
provisions
of
the
substandard
lot
ordinance.
In
this
case
the
garage
does
not.
It
is
a
two-story
garage.
B
It
does
not
exceed
the
height
of
the
existing
single
family
structure,
main
structure
on
the
property
and
it's
the
step
backs
that
were
established
during
the
approval
process
for
the
existing
house,
and
so
we've
decided
to
recommend
approval
of
the
of
the
structure,
but
the
Commission
certainly
has
the
ability
to
you're
not
bound
by
the
substandard
lot
ordinance.
If
you
think
the
project
works.
J
B
However,
in
having
a
talking
about
this
with
our
our
management
team,
it
was
determined
that
we
would
allow,
because
the
project's
the
entire
project,
the
house
and
garage,
was
approved
with
reduced
setbacks
due
to
the
fact
that
both
of
these
properties
were
developed.
Let
me
go
back
to
the
site
plan.
J
B
B
Right
so
it
59%
the
residential
floor.
Er
will
exceed
the
55.
However,
23%
of
the
residential
floor
area
will
be
located
in
a
base,
is
located
in
a
basement
or
will
be
with
this
and
13%
located
in
the
Adu,
so
leaving
23%
of
the
residential
floor
area
actually
in
the
single-family
structure.
So
a
portion
of
that
being
located
in
the
basement
where
it
doesn't
really
impact
the
above-ground
massing
of
the
structure
and
then
a
portion
of
that
being
located
in
an
Adu
structure
which
does
add
to
some
massing,
but
it
is
also
ad
use.
B
D
J
Q
D
No
okay:
we
will
now
hear
from
the
applicant.
AE
My
name
is
Amanda
swales
I'm,
the
designer
on
the
project.
My
address
is
four
five:
zero
five
West
Bethel
Street
in
Boise
I
want
to
thank
everyone
here
on
this
long
call
to
address
some
of
the
questions
the
house
directly
behind
the
alley
is
a
two-story,
possibly
larger.
It
is
much
larger
than
the
proposed
second
story
on
the
garage.
AE
The
garage
itself
has
a
very
steep
pitch,
it's
an
8
12
pitch
and
it
is
approximately
17
and
a
half
feet
high
already
and
with
this
design
line,
we
just
tried
to
keep
this
as
basic
as
possible,
keeping
it
shorter
than
the
existing
house
and
hidden
from
the
front
or
from
10th
Street.
The
the
the
new
proposed
roof
pitch
is
a
612
and
when
all
the
math
is
done,
that's
about
a
7
foot,
difference
kind
of
raising
that
entire
garage
about
seven
feet.
AE
Other
questions
about
the
percentage-
yes,
there
is
a
basement
in
the
existing
house.
This
house
was
built
in
2017
along
with
the
others
next
to
it,
and
the
garage
was
built
then,
and
the
design
kind
of
reflects
what's
happening
there,
keeping
things
very
minimal
and
I
guess
I'll
answer
any
other
questions.
D
T
That
Nina
wishes
to
be
a
party
of
record
for
items
that
exceed
lot
coverage
and
massing
and
at
the
same
time,
is
in
support
of
the
city's
increase
in
density
of
housing
and
ad
use.
So
overall
Nina
supports
the
project.
D
Fantastic,
thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
Oops,
I,
muted,
myself,
okay,
so
I
do
not
have
anyone
signed
up
to
testify
on
this
project
if
there
any?
If
there's
anyone
here,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand,
okay,
I'm,
not
seeing
anything.
AE
AE
D
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
as
I
previously
stated
that
the
substandard
auto
Agnes
does
allow
for
reduced
internal
setbacks
when
multiple
structures
are
being
basically
being
built
at
the
same
time
by
the
same
applicant,
which
is
what
occurred
here.
These
were
built
before
my
time,
but
that's
what
occurred
here.
So
the
reduced
setback
was
giving
was
given
to
the
entire
property
during
that
time,
so
they
they
were
through
the
substandard
lot
ordinance.
AE
D
L
D
Sorry
I
missed
who
that
was?
Was
that
Erica?
Yes,
okay,
great?
Is
there
any
discussion
on
this
before.
J
Madam
chair
I,
like
disagree
on
this
one,
putting
us
we're
putting
a
2-story
building
behind
story
and
a
half
house
in
a
while,
though
it
is
just
under
the
height
of
the
existing
house,
the
properties
on
either
side
this.
This
is
gonna,
be
a
much
larger
and
taller
building
and
it
is
on
a
substandard
lot
and
it
is
a
two-story
you
so
I'm
going
to
disagree
with
the
motion.
D
Thank
you
for
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I
will
be
supporting
this
application
and
voting
in
favor,
primarily
due
to
the
fact
that
it
is
on
a
substandard
lot.
So
we
can
modify
the
substandard
law
ordinance.
How
we
see
fit
as
the
Commission,
but
also
due
to
the
city's
move
towards
increasing
density
I.
Think
it's
a
fantastic
way
to
not
only
eliminate
parking
but
to
increased
density
by
having
living
space
in
the
ATO.
So
with
that,
I
will
go
ahead
and
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roll.
F
G
H
D
You,
the
next
item
we
have
on
our
agenda,
is
erh:
zero,
zero,
zero
one
three
five:
this
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
construct
a
second-story
addition
and
base
them
into
the
existing
single-family
structure
and
to
construct
a
two-story
detached
garage
with
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
an
Associated
site
improvements
located
at
4:08,
West
or
Farrell
Street,
and
we
will
now
hear
from
staff.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
Commission.
Similarly,
I'll
I'll
skip
the
presentation
and
go
right
to
the
recommendation.
We
are
recommending
approval
with
conditions
of
DRH
21:35
I
will
add
that
I
think
there
are
some
a
couple
of
people
online.
That
would
like
to
speak
to
this
one,
and
we
have
heard
from
a
couple
of
people
in
the
neighborhood.
The
main
concern
is
with
the
ad
you,
the
garage
and
AD
you
and
the
the
massing
of
the
garage
I'll
also
address.
B
Similarly,
in
the
last
application,
this
one
does
exceed
the
residential
floor
area
quite
a
bit.
However,
again
as
I
stated
last
time,
we
we,
you
know
when
I'm
looking
at
these
I
break
it
down.
What
is
that
residential
floor
area
really-
and
in
this
case
a
25%
of
the
residential
floor
area,
will
be
located
in
the
basement.
10%
will
be
located
in
the
ad
you
leaving
the
residential
floor
area
of
the
main
structure
at
37%,
which
is
below
the
55%,
and
with
that
I'll
stand
for
questions.
J
B
You,
madam
chair
Commissioner
Koski,
that
is
a
different
element
of
this
project
that
it
is
below
great.
It
is
often
basement,
so
it
was
something
that
wasn't
really
a
part
of
the
design
we
were
looking
at,
but
rather
it's
an
extension.
An
external
extension
of
the
basement
and
I
I
chatted
with
the
applicant
about
that.
A
bit
I
still
was
a
bit
unclear
how
that
would
work.
B
B
It
is
different
and
I
was
kind
of
because
it
wasn't
a
part
of
the
actual
design
of
the
remodel,
necessarily
I
kind
of
was
leaving
this
to
to
see
what
the
building
department
thought
when
they
came
in
for
their
building
permits
and
their
excavation
permits
to
actually
do
this.
So
that's
really
all
I
can
say
on
that.
J
B
B
D
No
okay:
we
will
now
hear
from
the
applicant.
AF
What
I
am
doing
is
trying
to
add
a
second
story
and
a
basement
area.
The
questions
on
the
side
there-
that's
actually
one
of
my
my
favorite
spots
in
this-
is
to
add
that
patio
off
the
side
where
a
basement
is
normally
dark.
My
concept
here
has
been
to
add
a
large
glass
window
which
eliminates
the
window
wells
that
I
personally,
don't
like
it
allows
access.
It,
creates
the
access
so
that
the
lower
rooms
are
pushed
to
that
side
of
the
house
and
have
the
access
to
be
able
to
egress
in
the
fire
situation.
AF
The
another
portion
of
what
this
house
is
being
remodeled
for
is
because
we
have
an
upstairs
currently
in
it.
That
is
also
a
narrow
staircase
that
goes
down,
and
a
couple
of
skylights
is
the
only
access.
There
is
no
well.
Somebody
broke
out
a
skylight
to
actually
get
out
or
to
allow
some
ventilation
up
there.
So
we
have
a
upstairs.
Currently
that
is
is
essentially
a
fire
trap.
AF
AF
The
view
from
the
front
will
be
changed
only
by
the
the
dormers
that
pop
out
the
back
of
the
house,
we
do
have
a
I
do
have
a
rather
long
letter
from
one
of
the
neighbors
that
I
did
actually
contact
before
our
a
virus.
Thing
came
around
and
I
love
to
have
talked
to
everybody
on
the
Block
about
this
and
had
intentions
to
do
so,
but
did
not
feel
that
it
was
appropriate
when
we
were
in
lockdown
to
go
around
and
start
knocking
on
doors.
So,
but
I
am
absolutely
willing
to
work
with
mr.
AF
Sherman
Sherman
I
believe
this
is
how
it's
pronounced
to
change
that
when
I
was
working
on
the
garage
aspect
of
it,
he
has
definite
concerns
about
seeing
about
the
back
being
overlooking
his
his
yard
and
I'm
more
than
willing
to
do.
Some
modifications
on
that
my
thought
when
I
did
it
was
to
create
something
that
was
not
just
a
blank
wall.
So
if
he
would
like
to
reduce
that
somewhat
and
change
it,
I
am
I
am
definitely
willing
to
work
in
that
direction.
I
guess
any
questions
on
that.
There.
D
D
AG
Hi,
my
name
is
Doug
cinnamon
and
I
live
on
four
one.
Seven
West
Pueblo
and
my
house
is
directly
behind
applicants
house
across
the
valley
and
although
most
of
the
modifications
on
the
house
itself,
I
think
are
reasonable.
It's
true,
I
do
have
concerns
with
the
proposed
two-car
garage
and
he
accessory
billing.
I
also
have
a
little
bit
of
a
concern
too
about
the
overall
footprint
of
the
development
I'll
talk
about
that.
AG
But
the
my
primary
concern
is
that
the
two-car
garage
just
doesn't
fit
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
has
a
fairly
large
two-story
building,
and
it's
really
substantial
in
terms
of
its
overall
height
and
bulk
and
the
wraparound
walkway
or
Melanie.
That
goes
around
the
back
front
and
the
sides
of
the
edu
are
gonna.
Give
the
building
a
pretty
substantial
look
almost
like
an
apartment,
complex,
and
it
really
makes
that
much
wider
than
a
standard.
AG
D'eryka
ROG,
because
you're
adding
three
to
you,
know
six
feet
on
all
sides
of
that
of
the
garage
itself
and
the
covered
balcony
on
the
back
side
of
the
garage
would
extend
about
six
feet
from
the
building,
meaning
it's
only
going
to
be
about
four
five
feet
away
from
the
edge
of
the
alley,
which
is
pretty
close
to
eyeing
my
backyard
property
and
I
kinda.
As
a
second
concern
I
have
is
that
Adu
Rises?
AG
AG
AG
My
other
concern
is
that
when
you
add
up
the
the
house,
which
doesn't
expand
much
I'm,
all
in
favor
of
the
house,
remodel
I,
think
that's
great,
but
with
the
garage
and
the
balconies
which
extend
out
three
or
five
feet
on
either
side
the
solid
services,
the
patios,
the
driveways,
the
parking
space,
the
egress
entrance
that
was
discussed
earlier.
It
really
takes
up
a
good
chunk
of
that
property
and
I
believe
some
trees
are
gonna,
be
removed.
AG
Although
that
wasn't
clear
from
the
application,
because
that
part
of
it
got
cut
off
and
my
copy
it
looks
like
some
of
the
mature
trees
are
gonna
be
removed.
So
it's
it's
more
than
just
the
footprint
of
the
house
in
the
garage
I
mean
a
quite
a
bit
of
that
lot
is
going
to
be
taken
up
by
you
know
from
from
up
above
from
roofs
or
pavement.
So
so
those
are
my
primary
concerns.
D
D
Great,
if
there's
anyone
else
wishing
to
testify
regarding
this
application,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
D
G
AF
The
one
of
the
things
that
was
brought
up
is
the
tree.
Yes,
I
am
looking
at
removing
one
elm
tree
that
is,
alongside
between
the
house
and
the
house
to
the
east.
I
have
again
have
not
spoken
with
the
actual
owner
in
a
couple
of
years,
but
when
we
trimmed
it
back
previously,
they
were
actually
in
favor
of
having
that
tree
taken
out.
It
is
an
elm
tree
in
a
small
space
and
they
are
not
definitely
not
one
of
my
favorite
trees.
That's
done
damage
to
the
house,
it
currently
leans
over
the
house.
AF
I
did
trim
it
I,
trimmed
it
way
back
a
year
or
two
ago,
and
it's
starting
to
starting
to
Bush
again,
but
it
is
definitely
something
that
I
want
to
get
rid
of
the
two
trees
in
the
back.
That
mr.
gentleman
is
talking
about.
I
had
no
intentions
of
removing
them,
however,
one
is
a
black
and
one.
Well,
one
is
not
even
on
my
property.
So
it's
not
my
my
choice
and
the
other
one
is
a
black
locust.
It
is
an
older
tree.
M
AF
The
the
other
other
point
that
saying
that
there
aren't
any
garages
like
this,
the
house
directly
to
the
west
that
was
just
constructed
a
couple
of
years
ago,
has
a
similar
size
of
garage.
Now
they
do
not
have
the
balconies
on
it
and,
as
I
said
before,
I'm
I'm
willing
to
discuss
definitely
taking
the
the
one
overlooking
mr.
Zimmerman's
yard
off.
If
it's
not
something
that
he
is.
AF
L
AF
O
Yes,
please:
it
looks
like
on
the
east
side
of
the
house.
There's
a
couple
windows
are
part
of
the
original
House
configuration
that
are
being
removed
and
reconfigured
larger
opening.
Can
you
verify
that.
AF
The
front
of
the
house
is
staying
where
it's
at
back
to
where
the
existing
roof
line
is
from
there
on
back,
I
have
rearranged
some
windows.
Absolutely
there
are
some
back
windows.
If
you
look
if
you're
speaking
of
the
east
side
in
towards
greer
the
house,
those
were
in
addition
at
some
point:
they
are
an
aluminum
window,
they're
single
pane,
not
in
good
shape.
D
Okay,
seeing
none
we
will
close
the
hearing
and
render
a
decision
by
the
motion.
L
Sure
I'll
give
this
a
shot
like
make.
A
motion
to
approve
the
RH
to
0-0
0
135,
with
the
conditions
of
approval
found
within
the
staff
report
and
the
added
condition
of
a
pool
that
the
second-story
balcony
on
the
garage
facing
the
alley
shall
be
eliminated
and
the
entry
access
point
pushed
to
the
yard
side
of
the
garage.
Thank.
O
To
just
bring
up
a
small
point,
I
am
a
little
bit
concerned
that
this
addition
is
not
making
this
contributing
house
potentially
not
contributing
and
changing
the
look
of
of
the
whole
house
I
have
being
able
to
see
that
addition
from
the
front
of
the
house.
It's
you
know
they
didn't.
It
was
put
on
originally
but
kind
of
goes
out.
The
back
is
pretty
subtle
and
you
don't
know
it's
there,
but
this
addition
is
really
in
my
mind
from
the
front
elevation.
Changing
the
look
of
the
house.
O
But
if
you
look
at
the
original,
the
original
house
from
what
I
can
tell
it,
had
those
had
windows
there,
even
though
they
probably
weren't
aluminum
or
whatever
they
are
now,
they
were
probably
would
that's
pretty
significantly
changing
that
appearance
on
the
side
of
the
house
as
well
and
I
would
prefer
if
he
could
keep
the
you
know
historic
window
openings
in
that
location.
Anything
that's
done
to
the
addition
in
the
back.
D
Thank
you,
commissioner
Richter.
Would
you
like
to
amend
your
motion
and.
L
D
Think
so,
Commissioner
Koski
did
you
still
want
to
second
that
yeah.
D
H
C
D
Okay
and
a
final
item
on
our
agenda
tonight
is
item
number
twelve
DRH:
zero,
zero,
zero
one
three
seven:
this
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
request
to
construct,
in
addition
to
the
existing
single-family
structure
and
to
construct
a
two-story
attached
garage
with
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
associated
fight
improvements
located
at
1019
West
batcher
Street,
and
we
will
now
hear
from
Ted.
Thank.
B
You,
madam
chair
members
of
the
Commission,
as
you
indicated,
this
is
an
addition
toward
the
rear
of
the
home.
As
the
house
front
stature,
the
addition
will
occur
back
here
with
a
garage.
The
house
addition,
a
patio
addition
and
in
the
garage
off
the
alley.
I
didn't
hear
from
any
of
the
public
any
public,
our
neighbors
on
this
one,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
just
say
that
we
are
recommending
approval
of
BR
age,
21
37,
with
recommended
conditions
of
approval
in
the
staff
report.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
J
B
Madam
chair
Commissioner
Koski,
the
applicant,
will
need
to
apply
for
variance
the
way
the
Lots
oriented
is
that
this
is
the
rear.
So
there's
a
rear
setback
of
15
feet,
so
the
structures
will
need
to
meet
a
15
foot
setback.
So,
yes,
the
new
garage
may
even
look,
even
though
it's
located
approximately
where
the
old
garage
is.
It
will
require
a
variance
because
it's
new
construction.
X
Gave
you
a
quick
overview
you've
seen
this
you've
seen
the
project
in
your
in
your
packet,
modest
addition
to
the
rear
of
the
home
new
garage
with
Adu
above
it,
as
you
know,
the
city's
very
encouraging
of
a
to
use,
adding
density
and
housing
options
to
our
our
great
city
and
just
to
speak
to
that
setback
issue
we
are.
We
are
in
variance
application
for
that
right
now
to
keep
the
existing
setback
where
the
existing
garage
is
now
so
I
think
this
was
yeah.
X
This
Ted
has
suggested
this
for
approval
and
I
think
it
was
on
the
consent
agenda
and
in
he
indicated
to
me
that
it
was
due
to
the
perceived
attachment
to
the
garage
that
attachment
is
just
an
open-air
breezeway
there.
The
structures
themselves
are
separated
by
about
seven
feet.
This
is
just
for
practical
safety
reasons.
Snow
and
rain.
Cover
accessibility
from
garage
to
the
Adu
by
elderly
and
infirmed
is
going
to.
X
You
know
make
that
a
little
bit
more
of
a
welcomed
addition,
the
entire
remodel
project,
the
garage
Adu
and
the
addition
are
well
set
back
from
the
street.
As
you
can
see,
it's
a
large
lot.
There
so
we're
set
back.
The
garage
is
set
back
from
the
street
about
seventy-five
feet
and
as
well
as
it
being
a
very
heavily
landscaped
area
between
the
street
and
the
and
the
AVU,
and
so
speaking
to
that
detached
garage
attached
versus
detached
there's.
X
Only
one
place
in
the
in
the
guidelines
that
it
talks
about
that
connection,
which
says,
design
and
construct
a
garage
that
is
part
of
the
primary
building
is
not
appropriate.
So
we
are,
you
know
it
is.
It
is
a
different
structure.
It's
connected
by
an
open-air
breezeway
set
well
back
from
the
street,
so
that
edu
is
one
and
a
half
stories
and
the
dormer
on
that
edu
matches
the
pitch
and
the
height
of
the
dormer
on
the
home
that
faces
11th
Street.
X
X
So
there's
certainly
definitely
historical.
Precedence
is
for
the
attached
and
even
attached
with
breezeway
garages.
I.
Think
your
last
January
hearing
there
was
examples
of
fully
attached
garages
on
the
booth
property
and
then
when
Catherine
B
Scott
did
one
with
an
attached
breezeway
similar
to
this
and
then
even
tonight
there
was
three
different
applications
with
attached
garages
and
and
whatnot.
So
there's
there's
certainly
precedents
there
and
in
very
recent
history,
as
recently
as
tonight,
so
we're
just
attaching
that
for
practicality
and
safety,
it
is
open
air,
its
unconditioned,
between
two
standalone
buildings.
R
D
D
Great
and
I'm
not
seeing
or
hearing
anything
from
my
fellow
commissioners,
so
oh
I'm,
sorry
I
did
forget
to
ask
sherry.
Are
you
still
here
thanks.