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A
A
Item
number
three
is
from
the
department
of
environmental
quality.
It's
two
items:
it's
a
request
to
transfer
three
million
four
hundred,
fifty
three
thousand
nine
hundred
eighty
one
dollars
to
be
transferred
from
the
general
fund
to
the
department
of
environmental
quality
fund
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
fiscal
year
21,
and
the
second
item
is
to
transfer
350
000
267
to
be
transferred
from
the
public
water
system
fund
to
the
deq
fund
in
the
fourth
quarter.
A
B
D
Make
sure
would
you
please
make
sure
you're
on
mute,
somebody
we're
getting
some
feedback.
A
Thank
you
governor.
The
second
item
from
the
department
of
health
and
welfare
is
to
request
that
we
add
seven
employees
to
their
current
list
and
that
they
again
to
receive
overtime
compensation
while
working
on
covet-related
work.
This
will
go
be
effective
march
14th
through
june
26
2021,
and
the
last
item
on
our
consent
agenda
is
from
the
idaho
brand
board.
A
The
idaho
brand
board
is
seeking
specific
permission
to
deposit
within
a
monthly
basis,
and
the
brand
board
would
require
in
policy
those
for
those
rural
brand
inspectors
to
continue
to
mail,
their
paperwork
and
payments
to
the
appropriate
district
office.
Weekly.
The
brand
board
will
bring
this
item
back
to
the
board
annually
for
review
to
see
if
the
exemption
is
still
needed
and
with
that
governor
members
of
the
board.
That
is
the
consent
agenda.
E
A
A
F
Yes,
sir,
just
a
as
a
reminder
to
everybody.
Of
course,
last
year
was
one
of
the
few
years
we
haven't
needed
to
do
this.
What
the
state
does
is,
there
is
a
difference
in
cash
flow.
Most
of
a
lot
of
the
revenues
have
to
be
paid
out
to
the
schools
before
we
receive
all
of
our
taxes
in
so
the
state
treasurer,
usually
issues
tax
anticipation,
note
to
be
able
to
anticipate
that
shortfall.
F
Just
in
the
timing
of
cash
flows,
as
you
may
remember,
we
are
limited
to
not
only
the
75
percent
of
income
and
revenue,
but
the
irs
also
limits
the
state
to
only
borrowing
90
of
the
anticipated
deficit.
My
understanding
is
is
that
the
note
this
year
is
anticipated
to
be
around
the
same
amount
as
it
usually
is,
which
is
between
500
and
550
million.
D
And
stephanie,
if
I'm
correct,
this
is
not
for
this
year,
because
we've
got
a
lot
of
the
federal
funds
that
are
sitting
around
in
your
vault
somewhere
and
we're
going
to
use
that
for
cash
flow
this
year,
and
this
is
for
next
year
that.
D
E
Governor
general,
I
move
approval
of
the
tax
anticipation
notes,
as
outlined
by
controller
wolf.
D
A
Governor
and
members
of
the
board,
we
do
have
this.
Normally,
we
would
sign
that
we'll
get
the
governor's
my
signature
today
I'll
work
with
attorney
general
woznia
and
secretary
danny
to
get
their
signatures
as
soon
as
possible
on
our
informational
agenda.
We
just
have
a
few
items.
We
have
update
from
our
office,
which
lists
all
the
overtime
payments
that
were
drew
to
kovid
from
the
different
agencies.
A
E
General
governor
move,
move
adjournment.
D
D
G
All
right
everybody's
here
good
morning,
this
is
a
regular
meeting
of
the
state
board
land
commissioners
for
tuesday
march
16
2021.
G
Let's
jump
right
into
it,
tab
one
attachment
a
in
your
binders
is
the
department's
recent
timber
sale
transactions
and
activities.
However,
I
want
to
start
with
a
quick
update
on
the
delivered
product
sales
pilot
program
governor,
as
you
are
aware,
the
in
fy
21
budget
requests
and
and
approval
for
the
department
of
lands.
The
idaho
legislature
approved
a
line
item
of
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
establish
a
delivered
product
sales
pilot
program
as
a
possible
way
to
generate
additional
revenue.
G
Through
the
timber
program,
the
department
attempted
to
fill
the
program
specialist
position
for
this
pilot
program
in
the
fall
of
2020.
However,
we
were
not
successful,
coinciding
with
the
implement
with
this
was
the
implementation
of
the
2019
forest
asset
management
plan,
as
well
as
a
restructure
of
the
timber
management
bureau
to
better
meet
the
needs
of
our
customers
with
the
restructure
timber
sales
and
contract
administration
will
now
be
under
one
section.
Chief.
G
This
position
is
currently
being
advertised
and
the
individual
hired
will
have
the
responsibility
of
developing
the
pilot
program,
including
the
sales
process,
procedures
and
contracts.
We
plan
to
sell
our
first
delivered
product
sales
sale
in
fy22
onto
the
february
timber
sales.
During
february
of
2021,
the
department
of
land
sold
four
endowment
timber
sales
at
auction.
The
endowment
net
sale
value
represents
a
24
up
bid
over
the
advertised
value.
G
G
The
total
endowment
saw
log
volume
sold
in
february
was
more
than
six
point.
Nine
million
board
feet
which
sold
for
nearly
nine
point:
three
million
dollars
and
an
average
selling
price
of
three
hundred
forty
four
dollars,
sixty
three
cents,
a
thousand,
so
some
really
good
stumpage
prices
last
month
on
to
the
next
table
proposed
timber
sales
for
auction.
G
These
two
sales
actually
recently
sold
the
department
sold
the
ren
renfro
conversion
endowment
timber
sale
out
of
the
st
joe
area
on
march
11th.
G
There
was
a
three
point:
there
was
3.2
million
board
feet
of
volume
in
this
particular
sale
which
sold
to
stimson
lumber
for
about
267
dollars
per
thousand,
resulting
from
a
32
up
bid
over
the
advertised
value.
Additionally,
the
department
recently
sold
the
midas
touch
g,
a
sale
on
the
nez
perce
clearwater
national
forest.
This
g,
a
sale,
was
updated
about
47
and
sold
to
ifg
for
365
dollars
per
thousand,
so
also
some
good
up
bidding
there
on
to
the
bottom
table
volume
under
contract.
G
As
of
february
28
2021,
the
department
currently
has
168
active
contracts.
Total
volume
under
contract
is
a
little
more
than
564
million
board
feet
with
an
estimated
residual
value
of
more
than
143.1
million
dollars,
and
you
can
see
where
you're
tracking,
slightly
ahead
of
the
three-year
average
in
the
right-hand
column
there.
With
the
exception
of
the
stumpage
pricing,
the
next
table
on
page
two
represents
the
department's
timber
sales
harvest
receipts
so
far
to
date
this
fiscal
year,
and
that
number
is
about
62.
G
G
G
On
to
the
the
bottom
graph
on
page
two
shows
our
cumulative
harvest
receipts.
As
you
can
see,
with
the
recent
increase
in
timber
harvest,
we
have
crossed
into
the
lower
range
of
what
we
can
expect
revenue
to
look
like
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
Current
fiscal
year
to
date
is
about
113
percent
of
the
three
year
average.
G
G
Over
time,
harvest
volume
will
go
up
as
we
put
more
wood
on
the
market
pursuant
to
our
forced
asset
management
plan.
The
bottom
graph
on
page
3
is
the
monthly
lumber
and
stumpage
price
index
again.
The
green
line
represents
the
market
lumber
price.
The
blue
line
represents
the
six
month,
idl
rolling
average
for
stoppage
price,
and
the
red
line
represents
the
ideal
monthly
stoppage
price
trend.
As
you
know,
stumpage
prices
vary
based
on
the
quality
of
the
individual
sale.
G
The
map
on
page
four
just
gives
you
an
idea
of
our
sold
and
proposed
timber
sales
and
where
those
where
those
sales
will
take
place.
So
I
will
stop
real,
quick
governor
and
ask
if
there
are
any
questions
on
the
timber
report.
G
Go
ahead
all
right
governor
turning
to
page
one
of
attachment
b
endowment
transactions,
this
is
including
leases
and
permits
within
the
real
estate
division
within
the
trust,
land
management
division.
I'm
sorry.
In
february
2021
the
department
issued
a
total
of
18
instruments,
10
of
which
were
land
use
permits.
G
Only
one
real
estate
transaction
took
place
in
the
month
of
february,
which
was
a
deed
granted
for
the
jerome
surplus,
proper
property,
which
was
recently
authorized
by
the
land
board
last
fall
and
a
quick
update
on
land
exchanges.
The
department
is
working
with
the
bureau
of
land
management
to
close
the
owahi
land
exchange.
The
blm
recently
completed
the
protest
phase
for
the
owahi
land
exchange
and
I
believe
there
were
four
protests
to
these
to
this
particular
exchange
that
the
blm
is
working
to
address.
G
We
are
still
tracking
ahead
of
revenue
projected
for
expected
for
this
time
of
year,
total
revenue
with
real
estate
services,
income
included.
So
far,
this
fiscal
year
is
nearly
4
million
dollars
and
just
a
couple
of
things
to
point
out
governor
looking
at
communication
sites,
there
were
10
new
leases
completed
this
fiscal
year
that
were
not
included
in
the
forecast
that
was
developed
last
june.
So
you
can
see
the
delta
between
the
expected
and
and
actual
receipts
in
that
particular
category.
G
Additionally,
regarding
grazing
leases,
invoices
go
out
to
our
grazing
lessees
in
mid-march,
and
payments
are
due
around
the
first
of
may.
Most
revenue
comes
in
in
april
and
may
so
outstanding
invoices
amount
to
nearly
1.9
million
dollars
for
grazing
revenue
on
to
page
three
cumulative
trust
lands
program
receipts.
This
does
not
include
timber.
G
This
graph
shows
how
we
compare
against
the
three
year
average.
While
we
are
on
track
to
meet
our
fiscal
year
on
goal,
we
still
lag
behind
the
three
year,
average,
largely
given
declines
in
residential
and
cottage
site
income,
as
well
as
a
steady
decline
in
grazing
revenue.
However,
at
nearly
four
million
dollars
in
income,
we
have
exceeded
our
expected
revenue
so
far
this
year.
By
about
for
this
time,
this
fiscal
year
by
nearly
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
on
to
page
four.
G
The
amount
to
dates
this
fiscal
year
that
has
been
deposited
into
the
permanent
fund
is
just
over
1.4
million
dollars,
roughly
300
000
ahead
of
where
we
were
last
month.
Currently
there's
another
roughly
ninety
thousand
dollars
out
on
the
sweep
ready
to
be
transferred
into
the
permanent
fund
within
the
next
month
or
so
governor
land
board
members.
Are
there
any
questions?
Questions
agenda
item,
okay,
governor
quickly
on
to
attachment
c.
This
is
a
quick
legislative
update.
G
G
G
This
this
particular
legislation
did
pass
the
house,
as
well
as
the
senate
house,
bill,
24,
idaho,
board
of
scaling
practices.
This
bill
amends
existing
law
to
revise
provisions
regarding
board
compensation
and
again
this
legislation
has
passed
both
bodies
and
governor.
Both
pieces
of
legislation
are
pending
your
action,
there's
one
more
one
particular
bill.
We
will
talk
about
later,
which
is
house
bill
118.
This
concerns
idl's
legal
idl's,
legal
representation,
and
we
will
be
discussing
this
a
little
later
in
the
meeting
governor.
That
concludes
the
department
report
and
I
will
stand
for
any
additional
questions.
D
Hearing
none
is
chris
zoomed
in
somewhere.
H
Hantham
good
morning,
governor
members
of
the
land
board,
thank
you
director
miller.
The
endowment
fund
had
a
solid
month
during
february.
The
fund
was
up
2.3
for
the
month,
which
left
us
up
twenty
point:
four
percent
fiscal
year
to
date
through
the
close
of
the
markets.
Yesterday
we
were
up
twenty
three
point:
two
percent,
so
we've
continued
to
experience
strong
markets.
H
In
february
we
saw
coven
19
infection
rates,
recede
vaccination
campaigns,
accelerate
and
the
approval
of
the
johnson
and
johnson
vaccine.
For
those
of
you
who
watched
president
biden
state
of
the
union
address
last
week,
you
know
he
indicated
that
all
americans
would
be
eligible
to
start
receiving
the
vaccine
in
may.
So
the
acceleration
of
the
dis,
the
vaccine
distribution,
has
really
created
optimism
and
about
the
economy
going
forward
in
the
recovery.
H
The
question
that
investors
seem
to
be
grappling
with
is
is
what
impact
will
the
economic
recovery
have
on
inflation?
Fed
chairman
jerome
powell
has
argued
that
we
are
on
a
path
to
reflate
the
economy
at
a
healthy
annual
rate
of
around
two
percent.
His
focus
has
been
to
bring
us
back
to
full
employment
and
he's
expressed
a
willingness
to
let
inflation
run
a
little
above
their
target
of
two
percent.
However,
he
believes
that
that
that
increase
above
two
percent
would
be
transitory
and
that
we
would
still
keep
inflation
around
two
percent.
H
And
if,
if
that
happens,
the
fed
could
be
forced
to
increase
short-term
interest
rates
which
could
hurt
growth
and
technology
stocks.
So
we
have
seen
infla
interest
rates
tick
up
in
in
recent
months.
About
a
year
ago,
the
yield
on
the
10-year
treasury
was
0.5
percent.
Yesterday
it
was
1.6
percent,
so
we've
seen
interest
rates
begin
to
move
up
over
these
inflation
concerns
and
that's
made
it
tough
to
make
much
money
in
the
fixed
income.
H
H
D
G
Governor
onto
the
consent
agenda,
tab
three
in
your
binder
is
regarding
the
timber
license
plate
fund
and
I
believe
jennifer
okerlund
is
here
to
present
today.
So
I
will
kick
it
over
to
jennifer.
I
I
We
have
worked
collaboratively
with
the
idaho
department
of
lands
to
come
up
with
a
list
of
recommended
projects
to
fund.
I
believe
that's
in
your
book,
the
majority
of
the
funding
would
go
towards
project
learning
tree,
which
is
an
award-winning
environmental
education
program
that
we
work
to
make
available
to
teachers
and
young
idahoans.
I
G
Sir
approval
of
draft
minutes
february
16
2021.
governor.
E
D
J
Currently,
all
282
acres
are
encumbered
with
an
easement
from
1947
that
allows
only
the
university
of
idaho
to
use
the
property
for
an
experimental
farm.
It
is
critical
that
the
easement
is
released
or
terminated
prior
to
the
marketing
process
because
of
the
negative
impacts
to
the
value
of
the
land.
J
In
2016,
the
department
met
with
the
representatives
from
the
university
of
idaho
seeking
consideration
for
the
disposition.
The
university
informed,
the
department
that
they
had
limited
use
for
the
agricultural
college
endowment
land
and
prefer
that
it
be
sold
at
that
time.
The
university
of
idaho
owned
an
additional
40
acres
adjacent
to
the
property,
which
included
a
large
veterinary
training
facility,
known
as
the
kane
center.
J
It
would
help
establish
a
good
indication
of
market
value
and
it
would
simplify
the
approach
to
disposing
of
the
endowment
land
in
2020.
The
university
completed
the
disposition
process
for
the
cane
training
center
and
surrounding
land
and
has
since
re-engaged
the
department,
with
the
request
to
dispose
so
upon
receiving
the
request.
The
department
commenced
its
review
process
to
determine
if
a
sale
was
in
the
best
interest
of
the
endowment
we
contracted
with
a
land
use
planner
and
an
appraiser
environmental
engineer
and
the
land
board's
real
estate
advisor
to
review
and
make
a
recommendation.
J
K
Governor
members
of
the
land
board,
my
name
is
michael
finch.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
with
you
today.
Mr
perkins
covered
many
of
the
the
highlights
and
characteristics
of
these
two
parcels.
I
would
add
that
at
present
the
caldwell
area,
land
assemblage,
is
in
unincorporated,
caldwell,
sorry,
canyon,
county.
It
is
not
within
the
city
of
caldwell,
it
is
currently
zoned
ag.
However,
we
have
discussed
potential
annexation
with
the
city
and
they
would
be
open
to
that
in
the
context
of
a
land
division.
K
J
Mr
perkis,
thank
you,
governor
members
of
the
board
upon
upon
board
approval.
The
department
will
contract
with
a
real
estate
broker
and
auctioneer
they'll.
We
will
compile
a
property
information
portal
for
due
diligence
to
help
with
the
marketing
work,
with
the
university
to
release
the
easement
and
market
the
property
for
at
least
60
days.
I
anticipate
that
the
sale
will
be
held
in
mid
to
late
summer
and.
D
A
Controller
wolf
governor
and
thank
you,
miss
perkiss
and
and
mr
finch,
one
of
the
things
I've
in
the
background.
Reading
and
understanding
of
this
was
some
of
the
tie
back
to
the
moral
act
and
what
the
funds
for
this
would
be
used
for
can
be
used
for,
and
I
know
you
know
future
ideas
and
thoughts.
The
u
of
I
has
is
with
the
cafe
down
in
the
magic
valley.
Do
we
have
that
all
cleared
and
is
that
future
determination
still.
J
Governor
controller
wolf
members
of
the
board,
there
are
a
number
of
ongoing
legal
questions
in
regards
to
the
the
reinvestment
of
the
proceeds
from
the
sale.
Both
legal
counsel
from
the
department
and
the
university
are
working
together
to
resolve
that,
but
at
the
current
time
we
don't
need
that
answered.
L
D
You
I
I've
got
a
little
history
with
this
piece
of
ground.
I
proposed
this
in
2001
or
two,
but
that
was
before.
Cafe
was
a
glimmer
in
the
eye
of
the
university
of
idaho
and
then,
of
course,
we
I
think,
senator
craig.
We
worked
on
the
moral
act
to
better
define,
but
the
moral
act
is
specific.
If
it's
a
research
facility
for
a
research
facility,
there
is
no
harm.
No
foul.
D
Does
the
in
your
text
here.
Is
there
a
disagreement
between
our
attorneys
and-
and
I
see
mr
nelson
sitting
on
hello,
walk
on
campus?
Is
there
a
disagreement,
but
with
that
exchange
of
moral
act,
property
for
more
for
research,
property
for
research,
property.
J
D
J
D
I
know
clive
clive
did
a
lot
of
work
on
this
back
in
the
old
days
and
but
I
think
we
got
that
all
cleared
up
so
and
of
course
it
is
an
issue
of
the
timeliness
do
do.
I
understand
the
university
of
idaho
has
an
option
on
some
ground
down
to
rupert.
D
So
the
timeliness
of
the
exchange
is,
you
know
we
missed
the
window
of
opportunity
in
2003
or
four
to
sell
this
property
when
it
had
a
high
value
and
it's
gone
way
down
and
now
it's
gone
way
back
up
and
you
said
langston
did
the
appraisal
what's
the
date
of
the
appraisal,
the
update
that
we
got
from
mr
fitch
is
is
that
march
of
this
month
when
was
the
last
time
the
appraisal
was
updated.
J
The
governor
members
of
the
board,
the
effective
date
of
the
appraisal,
was
december.
1St
2020.
D
J
Governor
that
would
be
good
for
the
public
auction.
D
B
Perfect,
okay,
you
are
correct,
it
is
a
bit
chilly,
but
it's
by
the
only
coffee
bush
that
we
have
out
on
the
lawn,
so
that
works
pretty
well,
so
the
university
completely
supports
the
sale
of
this
property
at
this
time.
This
is
this
is
this
is
a
market
decision
that
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
endowments
in
the
best
interest
of
the
endowment
beneficiary
of
the
university.
B
We
are
still
in
discussions
with
with
the
attorney
general's
staff
on
on
on
on
the
specifics
for
how
those
how
those
proceeds
can
be
applied
and
what
what
benefit
the
university
can
gather
from
them.
In
association
with
the
cafe
project,
we
do
have
an
option
on
property
adjacent
to
the
current
property
that
has
been
acquired
for
the
cafe
dairy
and
we
are
actually
seeking
approval
to
commence
bidding
and
construction
at
the
upcoming
board
meeting
in
april.
B
We
will
also
be
seeking
approval
to
fully
release
the
the
easement
so
that
this
property
can
be
sold
at
its
maximum
value.
D
Thanks
ken
just
one
more
question,
mr
perkis,
we
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
is
going
to
be
the
the
discussion
up
in
valley
county.
D
I
guess
from
a
policy
standpoint
for
the
board
and
of
course
this
is
different
because
it's
moral
background,
but
if
we
think
owning
the
land
and
leasing
it
out
is
a
better
deal
than
selling
the
land.
How
do
how
do
we
basically
have
some
kind
of
a
consistent
policy
for
the
for
the
board
to
consider.
J
Governor
members
of
the
board,
we
have
had
some
internal
discussions
regarding
that
and
I'm
going
to
defer
that
question
over
to
mr
finch.
He
could
probably
do
a
better
job
of
answering
that.
K
Governor
remember
members
of
the
land
board.
It's
a
good
question.
I
know
that
commercial
ground
leasing
has
been
explored
elsewhere.
Typically,
that
works
best
when
property
is
is
not
of
a
residential
nature.
There
are
examples
where
ground
leases
are
effective
in
a
multi-family
high-rise
situation,
where
they're
not
creating
any
new
new
opportunities
such
as
waterfront
or
downtown
honolulu,
but
as
it
relates
to
land
that
is
zoned
for
a
single-family
residential
or
for
agricultural
uses,
because
the
highest
and
best
use
is
transitioning
from
ag
to
single-family.
K
It
would
be
difficult
to
get
real
value
out
of
this
property
on
a
groundless
structure
for
single-family
developments.
D
E
D
G
And
governor
onto
tab,
six
in
your
binder,
which
is
the
pay
it
endowment
land
strategy
strategy,
final
approval,
jim
elbin,
who
is
our
trust,
lands
management,
division
administrator
will
present.
N
N
The
pills
is
a
management
strategy
for
approximately
5
500
acres
of
endowment
land
within
the
city
of
mccall's
area
of
impact
over
the
next
20
years,
unless
directed
otherwise.
The
remainder
of
the
endowment
trust
land
in
the
payet
lake
supervisory
area
in
valley
county
will
be
managed
through
other
policies
and
plans
adopted
by
the
land
board,
including
the
forest
asset
management
plan,
the
statement
of
investment
policy,
strategic
reinvestment
plan
and
the
asset
management
plan,
most
of
the
5500
acres.
N
The
pels
will
be
evaluated
and
altered
for
alignment
and
continuity
with
land
board
direction
as
necessary,
like
the
other
policies
and
plans
that
guide
land
management
decisions
mentioned
previously
since
december,
the
department
has
updated
the
pills
based
on
technical
feedback
from
the
city
of
mccall.
These
changes
and
a
history
of
the
parcels
within
the
area
of
impact
are
included
in
attachment
one
since
the
inception
of
the
pel's
focus
group.
N
Examples
of
these
are
provided
in
attachment
too.
During
this
time,
the
department
hosted
three
three-hour
focus:
group
meetings,
consistent
of
department
staff,
land
board
staff
and
a
broad
spectrum
of
interests
from
the
mccall
area.
Attachment
3
provides
the
full
details
regarding
these
meetings
and
the
participants.
N
In
addition
to
the
pills
focus
group
meetings,
the
department
received
over
600
comments
from
the
public.
All
comments
are
included
as
attachment
for
the
following
statements.
Summarized
many
of
the
comments
received.
There
was
a
general
appreciation
of
opening
the
process
and
plan
up
for
public
involvement.
N
N
Explore
recreation
opportunities,
extend
the
moratorium,
consider
conservation,
easements,
consider
other
strategies
beyond
disposal.
Consider
the
environmental
impact
of
disposal
do
not
just
focus
on
the
cash
yield,
but
also
look
at
appreciation
and
coordinate
with
citizens
and
the
community
regarding
adequate
time
for
development
of
a
community
strategy
that
meets
the
constitutional
obligations.
N
The
city
also
provided
technical
comments
regarding
some
of
the
parcels
identified
in
the
pells,
which
were
incorporated
into
our
document
for
next
steps.
Due
to
the
lease
moratorium
in
the
mccall
area.
Since
june
of
2020,
the
department
has
received
applications
for
lands
within
the
pills,
applicants
have
been
notified
that
these
will
not
be
reviewed
until
the
land
board
approves
the
pels
and
lifts
the
leasing
suspension.
N
N
Approving
the
pels
and
providing
for
an
application
period
will
allow
for
the
department
to
work
with
legal
counsel
regarding
any
questions
that
come
with
applications,
the
application
period
would
be
of
a
sufficient
length
to
allow
for
application
preparation
but
limited
to
avoid
a
situation
where
the
department's
processing
is
delayed.
Due
to
serial
application
submissions,
the
department
will
continue
to
review
and
accept
applications
after
the
initial
application
period.
However,
there
is
a
potential
for
a
rush
of
applications.
N
Once
this
issue
is
resolved,
the
department
will
work
with
the
land
board
and
land
board
staff
to
address
these
issue.
Issues
such
as
cost
allocation
to
applicants
and
other
related
application
matters,
according
to
the
following
timeline
from
today,
hopefully,
with
landlord
approval
of
the
pels
through
june
thirtieth,
the
department
will
work
with
the
office
of
attorney
general
and
land
board
staff
to
establish
application
evaluation
criteria
and
to
procure
third-party
experts
to
assist
in
application
evaluations.
N
Therefore,
the
department's
recommendations
are
one:
the
landlord
approved
the
pay
endowment
land
strategy,
as
provided
here
in
to
the
land
board
direct
the
department
to
lift
the
existing
restriction
on
certain
leasing
and
disposition
activities
in
the
vicinity
of
mccall.
As
directed
at
the
june
16
2020
land
board
meeting
three,
the
land
board
direct
the
department
to
begin
accepting
applications
for
lease
easement
land
exchange
and
disposition
of
lands
in
the
mccall
area
of
impact
and
four
begin.
D
We'll
stand
by
we'll
probably
have
some
with
that
director.
I
guess
we
should
go
through
public
testimony.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
governor?
Okay,
we
have
17
individuals
signed
up
for
two
minutes
of
peace.
D
G
Governor
real
quick,
I
I
tried
getting
a
message
to
you
recently:
craig
got
stuck
behind
a
rock
slide
as
a
result
of
the
blasting.
I
believe
it's
smith's
ferry
headed
down
from
mccall,
so
he
routed
around
through
new
meadows
and,
I
believe,
is
in
napa.
So
if
he
could
go
later
in
that.
O
O
Can
you
all
hear
me?
Yes,
yes,
very
good,
my
name
is
robert
looper,
representing
the
pilgrim
grove,
homeowners
and
brundage
mountain.
I
know
you
guys
have
received
hundreds
of
pages
of
comments
on
the
pals.
The
following
is
my
two
minute
suggestion
on
how
the
idl
should
proceed.
One.
The
idl
should
expand
the
scope
of
the
pels
to
include
the
surrounding
acreage,
which
impacts
the
watershed
of
payette.
The
water
quality
of
payout
lake
rests
within
the
hands
of
the
state
of
idaho,
whether
that
be
the
idle
or
other
state
agencies
like
the
endowment
lands.
O
Payet
lake
represents
a
sacred
trust
for
all
idahoans.
Why
only
5
500
acres,
if
the
bar
for
determining
the
scope
of
the
pells
was
based
on
those
lands
that
were
quote
transition
endowment
lands
to
higher
and
better
uses
where
land
values
are
significantly
higher
than
traditional
asset
classifications.
End
quote,
then:
the
landlord
missed
the
mark
when
it
only
looked
at
the
5500
acres
in
the
mccaul
impact
zone.
The
timberland
designation,
slash,
use
of
the
remaining
property
surrounding
payette
lake,
significantly
underestimates
the
value
of
the
property
and
should
have
been
included
in
the
telescope
number
two.
O
The
idl
should
keep
the
focus
group
or
an
advisory
committee
of
local
stakeholders
in
places.
The
idl
staff
incorporates
comments
and
updates
to
the
expanded
pel's
scope,
including
the
redesignation
of
timberline
asset
class,
to
incorporate
recreation
and
conservation
easements.
This
will
take
some
time
as
the
idl
is
never
evaluated.
Non-Exclusive
easements
over
these
properties.
This
endowment
has
been
for
there
for
a
hundred
years,
there's
no
one
that
should
should
feel
rest
to
complete
the
process.
The
land
is
appreciated
substantially
above
the
bulk
of
the
idl
endowment
lands
due
to
its
proximity
to
pay
it
late.
O
The
disposition
of
these
lands
must
be
done
carefully
and
within
the
land,
planning
goals
and
objectives
of
the
city
of
mccall
valley
county
and
will
require
a
substantial
commitment
of
staff
and
time
for
third-party
experts.
In
conclusion,
if
so
many
people
want
this
property,
then
your
best
scenario
is
to
hold
on
to
everything
you
can
for.
As
long
as
you
can.
P
P
The
december
draft
of
the
pels
is
a
benefit
analysis
of
selling
leasing
or
trading
endowment
lands
in
the
mccall
area.
It
does
not
evaluate
the
costs
of
these
transactions.
The
pels
doesn't
even
mention,
let
alone
prioritize
the
health
of
the
ecosystem
or
the
protection
of
pay
at
lake.
A
more
comprehensive
analysis
would
provide
a
more
accurate
report
of
how
particular
transactions
would
affect
long-term
returns.
For
example,
what
would
be
the
cost
to
the
ecology
of
mccall,
the
health
of
payet
lake
or
the
economy
of
mccall?
P
If
the
state
were
to
sell
parcels
g
h
on
the
east
side
of
the
lake
payet
lake,
as
you
governor
little
pointed
out
at
the
north
fork,
pay
at
watershed
summit
is
at
the
top
of
the
ditch.
Damage
to
the
lake
would
adversely
affect
mccall
the
surrounding
areas.
People's
miles
downstream,
who
use
these
waters
for
municipal
drinking
water,
agricultural
operations
and
recreation.
P
We
urge
the
land
board
to
extend
the
moratorium
on
any
sales
or
trades
of
endowment
land
for
two
years,
work
with
the
city
of
mccall
and
valley
county
and
get
these
questions
right
once
they're
taken.
They
cannot
be
undone
in
closing,
please
take
a
step
back
in
order
to
engage
with
moral,
spiritual
and
intellectual
integrity
with
these
lands.
M
Good
afternoon
good
morning,
mr
governor
and
members
of
the
land
board
valley
county
would
like
to
commend
idl
and
the
land
board
for
the
creation
of
a
focus
group
to
engage
local
stakeholders
in
creating
the
final
draft
of
the
pels.
Now,
as
you
and
your
fellow
board
members
take
up
these
deliberations
on
the
subject,
we
ask
for
further
consideration
on
the
following
points
raised
during
the
meetings
echoed
in
the
public
comments
and
presented
to
you
by
unanimous
consensus
from
the
members
of
the
focus
group.
Please
consider
allowing
the
focus
group
to
continue.
M
These
strategies
will
allow
idl
to
continue
to
manage
local
forests
disposition
and
development.
Do
not
valley
county
would
like
the
time
to
explore
some
of
these
options,
but
this
won't
happen
overnight.
It
will
have
to
be
fully
vetted
to
our
annual
budget
process
by
passing
potential
levies
and
by
researching
grant
opportunities
like
the
recently
reinstated
land
and
water
conservation
fund.
Please
explore
ways
for
idl
to
evolve
as
local
economies,
statewide
shift
from
resource
dependent
to
recreation
dependent.
Thus
far,
recreation
has
been
considered
only
a
secondary
benefit
on
endowment
lands.
M
Allow
idl
staff
the
opportunity
to
diversify
their
management,
to
adapt
to
new
challenges
and
growing
demand
for
outdoor
recreational
opportunities.
Please
include
in
accessing
easements
on
properties
that
do
end
up
in
disposition
when
properties
are
deemed
appropriate
for
disposition
require
that
historical
access
to
and
through
these
lands
remains.
We've
already
lost
too
much
land
of
access
to
privatization
across
the
state.
M
We
believe
that
by
allowing
ample
time
for
these
items
to
be
included
in
the
pels
and
by
working
together
with
valley,
county,
the
city
of
mccall
and
other
key
stakeholders
in
the
area,
idl
can
utilize
these
innovative
approaches
to
land
management,
to
help
preserve
the
character
of
the
area
and
our
ability
to
access
the
open
spaces,
while
maintaining
its
financial
duties
to
the
endowment
and
providing
a
comprehensive
framework
for
managing
endowment
lands
across
the
state.
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
Q
Q
As
members
of
this
focus
group,
we
delivered
a
written
consensus
statement
yesterday,
which
I
will
summarize
now
in
support
of
idl.
We
offer
the
following
three
recommendations:
first,
whereas
these
endowment
lands
contribute
to
long-term
returns
of
the
overall
trust
through
appreciation,
we
recommend
that
idl
develop
new
protocols
to
incorporate
and
consider
this
appreciation
and
identify
opportunities
to
increase
revenue
in
ways
that
protect
the
lands
and
payout
lake,
including
protocols
for
conservation,
easements,
recreation
leases
and
recreation
districts.
Q
Second,
we
support
idl
taking
time
to
further
develop
the
pals
by
considering
and
incorporating
comments,
focus
group
discussions
and
other
input,
along
with
the
existing
comprehensive
plan
by
the
city
of
mccallum
valley
county.
While
this
work
is
being
done,
we
recommend
maintaining
the
moratorium
on
disposal
of
lands
within
the
mccall
area
of
impact
until
the
pelz
is
finalized.
Q
Finally,
we
recommend
continued
commitment
to
working
with
stakeholders,
including
the
city
of
mccallum
valley,
county
through
final
draft
development
and
implementation
of
the
pels
should
idl
desire
additional
support
or
involvement
of
the
focus
group.
We
stand
ready
to
offer
our
assistance.
Thank
you.
R
R
I've
been
using
the
endowment
lands
to
bike
climb
ski
swim,
you
name
it
since
I
can
remember,
and
I
think
I
can
speak
for
my
entire
generation
of
kids
growing
up
here
when
I
say
it's
really
a
special
area
because
of
the
recreational
value
that
we
all
appreciate
in
it.
After
growing
up
here,
I've
been
working
with
the
central
idaho
mountain
biking,
association
to
reroute,
a
popular
section
of
trail
on
idl
lands,
and
it's
really
helped
me
connect
with
my
community.
R
It's
also
helped
me
better
understand
how
recreation
on
those
lands
has
played
a
pretty
integral
part
in
our
economy.
In
mccall,
my
mountain
biking
team
and
I
have
used
ideal
lands
year
after
year
as
a
great
resource
to
train
and
ride
in
pristine
forest
lands.
The
most
important
part
to
me
is
the
stretch
of
waterfront
land
on
the
east
side
of
the
lake.
It's
the
only
part
of
the
lake
left,
that's
accessible
and
not
blocked
by
private
property.
R
My
biggest
fear
is
to
go
off
to
college
and
when
I
come
back
to
visit
only
see
condos
and
private
property
in
the
forests
and
on
the
lake
that
I
grew
up
on
and
appreciate
it
so
much.
I
know
that
you
guys
have
gotten
a
lot
of
proposals
and
options
to
look
through,
but
I
really
really
urge
you
not
to
rush
this
and
take
the
time
that
mccall
locals
and
my
generation
have
grown
to
deserve.
Thank
you
guys.
I
appreciate
it.
L
L
L
The
greatest
of
these
opportunities
is
to
enable
the
preservation
of
these
areas
for
our
children
and
grandchildren.
This
will
take
time
and
work.
The
plels
plan
is
a
good
start.
However,
there
are
pieces
missing
number
one
expansion
of
classifications
beyond
the
current.
This
is
suggested
by
many
in
the
comments
and
could
include
such
things
as
conservation,
recreation
and
watershed.
The
addition
of
these
new
asset
classes
would
attract
and
expand
options
for
revenue
for
the
endowment
lands,
number
two
protocols
or
evaluation
criteria.
L
Although
this
is
part
of
the
idl
staff
recommendation,
it
cannot
be
completed
prior
to
the
recommendation
of
vetting
applications
immediately.
How
will
these
be
vetted
without
the
new
evaluation
criteria?
In
the
meantime,
it
is
difficult
to
submit
things
like
a
conservation
easement
application
when
there
is
not
a
defined
set
of
evaluation
criteria.
L
L
This
is
an
issue
for
all
visitors
and
citizens
of
the
area
and
number
four
continue
to
engage
a
stakeholder
group
to
work
with
the
ideals
apps
to
find
creative
solutions
that
enable
a
win-win
while
creating
a
successful
model
for
use
statewide,
let's
all
commit
to
the
hard
challenging
work
and
length
of
time
that
is
needed
to
build
on
this
work
and
create
a
strong,
comprehensive
plan,
though
this
may
seem
daunting
in
the
short
term.
The
value
of
putting
it
in
the
effort
now
will
pay
large
benefits
in
the
future
for
all
of
idaho's
endowment
lands.
S
Good,
my
name
is
nick
harris.
I
have
nearly
28
years
of
financial
markets
experience
and
most
of
that
was
on
wall
street.
I
wanted
to
highlight
that
there
are
other
solutions
the
idl
could
pursue.
Besides
disposal,
a
strategy
could
be
pursued
to
extract
yield
from
the
land
through
a
quilted
approach
of
conservation,
easements,
recreation
leases,
timber,
harvest
etc,
which
are
not
exclusive.
S
S
S
Let's
also
assume
that
mccall
land
appreciates
it
eight
percent
a
year
if
the
idl
could
achieve
a
two
percent
yield
using
a
combination
of
the
strategies
outlined
above
over
32
years,
the
state
would
earn
a
sum
total
of
a
hundred
and
thirty
fifteen
million
dollars
or
thirty
two
million
dollars
in
today's
money,
and
the
trust
would
still
own
the
land,
which
would
be
worse
for
457
million
dollars
and
yielding
two
percent
a
year.
That's
a
much
better
deal
than
disposal,
and
for
this
exercise
I
presume
the
trident
offer
is
fair
and
it's
it.
S
Sixteen
hundred
dollars
an
acre
for
landon
mccall
with
over
fifteen
thousand
linear
feet
of
lakefront
property.
This
offer
is
a
very
small
fraction
of
what
represents
a
fair
price.
This
is
a
complex
problem,
but
there
are
other
solutions
besides
disposal.
Such
solutions
require
creative,
long-term
thought,
collaboration
and
time.
Idaho
needs
to
slow
this
process
down
and
explore
other
options.
These
lands
are
important
engines
of
growth
to
the
state
and
a
precious
resource.
Idl
has
held
these
lands
for
130
years,
let's
at
least
take
the
time
to
find
the
right
solution.
D
Thank
you.
The
next
is
stanley
johnson.
C
My
name
is
stanley
johnson,
I'm
a
future
beneficiary
to
the
mccall
endowment
lands.
The
lands
surrounding
payet
lake
have
been
adored
for
a
hundred
years.
Its
vast
areas
are
open
to
recreational
enthusiasts
and
have
been
used
by
hunters,
anglers,
climbers,
mountain
bikers
and
skiers
alike.
The
swats
of
land
around
the
lake
are
instrumental
to
the
feel
of
the
town
of
mccall
and
it
is
a
crucial
reason
why
many
businesses
stay
open
and
tourists
come
to
mccall.
C
This,
in
turn,
makes
property
values
dependent
on
the
mccall
endowment
lands,
but
the
area
surrounding
the
lake
in
the
lakes
watershed
will
be
destroyed
if
they
were
to
ever
be
sold
or
traded.
Therefore,
I
reject
the
paid
endowment
land
strategy.
Companies
like
trident
holdings
are
for-profit
developers.
They
threaten
to
litigate
to
force
the
land
board.
To
swap
these
lands
for
revenue.
Producing
timberland
trident
fails
to
recognize
the
words
protect
and
financial
return.
C
I
respectfully
ask
the
board
to
consider
the
residents
of
mccall,
the
state
of
idaho
and
our
visitors,
who
love
to
ski
bike,
hunt
fish
and
climb
on
the
lands
that
trident
holdings.
Alec
williams
has
proposed
to
trade
for
a
short-term
timber
sale
and
then
personally,
make
millions
selling
off
our
land
to
wealthy
investors
forever
ask
the
court
to
consider
the
future
memories
that
will
be
made
through
the
recreational
activity,
and
I
also
asked
the
board
to
consider
the
long-term
disastrous
effects
that
this
land
swap
will
have.
Thank
you.
D
T
Thank
you,
governor
and
members
of
the
land
board
for
this
opportunity
to
speak.
My
name
is
craig
utter.
I'm
with
the
payet
land
trust
on
friday
march
12th.
The
payetland
trust
submitted
two
applications
for
conservation
easements
on
parcel
g
and
parcel
h,
essentially,
east
side
drive.
This
submission
was
a
direct
result
of
governor
little's
request
for
out-of-the-box
thinking
on
the
mccall
endowment
issues
and
for
solutions
which
work
statewide.
T
It's
also
a
result
of
plt's
involvement
in
the
pels
process
and
participation
in
the
focus
group
sessions
sessions
which
amassed
a
diverse
set
of
stakeholders
and
generated
ideas
which
brought
consensus
from
the
group.
Plt
plt
heard
the
governor's
call
for
workable
solutions
loud
and
clear.
We
submitted
the
applications
in
a
direct
response
to
the
request
for
proposals
to
increase
the
long-term
revenue
on
these
lands
while
conserving
traditional
uses,
natural
habitat
access,
water
quality.
T
The
applications
were
not
submitted
in
haste,
but
rather
the
result
from
years
of
work
on
this
issue,
we
began
investigating
a
path
to
conservation
around
payette
lake
in
2018,
eventually
making
it
making
the
payet
lake
conservation
project
the
centerpiece
of
our
payette
river
basin
initiative
in
2020.
The
discussion
surrounding
the
land
board's
fiduciary
duty
in
relation
to
traditional
uses,
elevated
due
to
development
values
that
continue
to
rival
those
of
timber
born
in
1993.
T
Out
of
the
need
to
balance
conservation,
development
plt
now
wants
to
bring
its
28
years
of
experience
of
weaving
together
agriculture,
timber
and
recreation
into
conservation,
easements
as
a
tool
to
help
manage
endowment
lands
by
purchasing
an
easement
at
fair
market
value.
The
fiduciary
duty
of
the
land
board
will
be
met.
The
endowment
will
continue
to
own
the
land
and
benefit
from
any
future
derived
revenue
on
these
properties
under
the
easement
purchasing.
A
conservation
easement
on
endowment
land
has
never
been
done
before,
given
time
to
establish
the
necessary
protocols.
T
D
D
P
U
U
U
All
of
these
spots
I
frequently
go
to
after
school
in
the
spring
or
on
a
fun
summer
day
are
in
the
5478
acres
of
endowment
land.
This
land
goes
to
the
endowment
beneficiaries
and
I'm
one
of
those
I
opposed
selling
or
trading
the
endowment
lands,
and
I
believe
the
pay
endowment
land
strategy
focuses
too
much
on
financial
gain
and
not
enough
on
long-term
effects.
U
If
the
endowment
land
is
traded
for
development,
idaho
will
gain
logging
land
and
without
funding
for
schools.
This
profit
will
help
idaho
in
short
term,
but
development
of
mccall
around
pitt
lake
could
possibly
cost
idaho
more
money.
Development
will
remove
the
buffer
from
the
watershed
causing
pit
lakes,
water
quality,
to
degrade
and
creating
a
public
health
issue.
U
Pitt
lake
is
the
sole
water
source
for
the
city
of
mccall,
and
if
the
water
source
is
polluted,
then
there
will
be
a
significant
cost
to
find
a
new
source.
More
funding
for
schools
won't
be
beneficial
if
the
wildlife
and
nature
surrounding
palette
lake
and
palette
lake
itself
are
degraded
and
lessened.
U
When
I
come
back
to
mccall
with
my
children,
I
want
them
to
see
little
lake
the
thinking
spot
in
the
cliffs
in
their
beautiful
natural
beauty.
I
want
them
to
swim
in
a
quick,
clean
palette
lake
and
I
want
them
to
safely
drink
water
water
from
the
sink.
For
these
reasons,
I
oppose
the
pet
endowment
land
strategy.
V
All
right
good
morning,
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
share.
My
name
is
annika
cramblet
and
I'm
a
junior
for
mccall
donnelly,
high
school
I've
lived
in
mccall
my
entire
life
and
try
to
spend
as
much
time
outside
as
possible.
One
of
my
favorite
adventures
was
this
winter.
When
a
few
of
my
friends
and
I
went
cross-country
skiing,
we
skied
out
just
before
sunset
climbed
up
to
the
thinking
spot,
lit
a
small
fire
and
gazed
off
into
the
atmosphere.
The
stars
were
transcendent
and
a
wave
of
appreciation
for
this
hidden
gem
state.
V
I
get
to
call
home
washed
over
me
with
that
feeling
in
mind
I'll
push
for
slower,
more
considerate
development
of
our
land
for
as
long
as
possible.
Some
of
my
concerns
for
the
payette
endowment
land
strategy
involve
the
ecological
capacities
of
the
land.
Due
to
how
quickly
this
plan
is
being
pushed
through.
The
environment
should
be
the
foundation
of
the
endowment
land
plan.
Environmental
degradation
will
take
place
if
this
plan
passes
too
quickly
and
if
it
does
not
address
the
environment's
priceless
assets.
V
Underdeveloped
land
is
encroached
upon
daily
and
without
a
sturdy
plan
to
protect
it,
nature
will
soon
wither
away
when
driving
through
mccall.
There
are
many
deer
inhabiting
space
with
us.
They're
mangled
depressed
and
confused
rapid
development
will
continue
to
harm
their
way
of
life
and
wildlife
to
serve
to
freely
use
the
land
as
well.
Solidifying.
V
A
more
comprehensive
plan
will
immensely
aid
the
ecosystems
and
wildlife
in
mccall,
idaho,
a
local
state
code,
holder
advisory
group,
which
will
include
representatives
from
the
forest
service
pay
at
water
quality
control,
the
city
of
mccall
and
valley,
county
youth,
who
must
be
involved
in
this
issue.
Other
advisors
would
likely
be
necessary.
However,
the
youth
must
have
a
voice
on
this
issue
because
we
will
reap
the
consequences
of
the
endowment
land
plan.
V
Good
or
bad
poorly
planned
development
will
ruin
the
lake
in
its
surrounding
environment
and
with
that,
the
memories
of
these
beautiful
untouched
places
will
lose
the
genuine
feeling
they
once
had.
I
want
more
funding
for
my
school
and
from
a
call
to
continue
developing,
but
not
when
it's
rushed
and
not
when
it's
at
the
cost
of
losing
these
sanctuaries.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
D
Thank
you,
sailor
band.
W
W
We
are
not
alone,
as
thousands
of
others
that
enjoy
the
same
access
to
the
land,
and
I
see
that
every
year
more
and
more
people
are
riding
their
motorcycles,
riding
their
tvs,
hiking
and
biking,
and
I
feel
as
though
loss
of
this
land
would
be
detrimental
to
all
all
of
idaho
I'll
hate
to
see
the
privatization
of
the
land
lead
to
the
development
of
land
and
loss
of
access,
as
well
as
possible
degradation
of
the
payet
lake
water
quality.
Therefore,
I
oppose
any
transfer
sales
of
the
land.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
and
next
is,
is
sailor.
There.
X
All
right,
yeah,
so
hi
everyone,
my
name
is
taylor
van
mindorf.
Thank
you
guys.
So
much
for
letting
me
speak.
I'm
a
current
junior
at
mccall
donnelly
high
school,
my
family's,
been
in
the
valley
county
area
for
over
four
generations,
and
lately
I've
been
pouring
over
your
guys's
proposition
and
while
I
really
respect
that
you
guys
are
trying
to
work
with
the
land,
I
have
some
big
concerns
about
it,
chiefly
the
consequences
that
would
come
with
dividing
up
the
land.
Because
of
my
family's
longevity.
X
Here,
we've
been
able
to
make
so
many
amazing
memories,
specifically
on
these
endowment
lands.
My
first
ever
rock
climb
was
at
the
thinking
spot,
which
is
a
popular
climbing
area
on
the
endowment
lands.
My
mom
and
I
were
adventuring
just
before
sunset,
and
I
got
to
the
top
of
the
route.
I
could
feel
the
sun
on
my
face
and
the
grain
under
my
fingers.
X
X
X
So,
as
I
said
earlier,
I
appreciate
your
intentions
and
time
put
into
this
proposal,
but
I
know
that
it
needs
more
time
to
make
sure
the
area
is
preserved.
We
really
need
to
protect
the
integrity
of
the
land
on
which
we
live.
I
implore
you
guys
to
think
about
what
the
sale
of
this
land
would
mean,
not
just
for
us
or
the
ecosystem,
but
also
for
future
generations.
Thank
you
so
much.
D
Thank
you,
sailor
kamis
alexander.
Y
Hi
everyone,
hello,
my
name
is
kamis
alexander
and
I
attend
mccall
donnelly
high
school
as
a
junior
growing
up
in
mccall.
I've
always
been
attracted
to
the
outdoors,
my
family,
and
I
would
always
go
on
adventures
whether
that
be
skiing,
hiking
or
mountain
biking.
We
have
explored
many
of
the
areas
that
surround
mccall.
Y
As
I
have
most
recently
learned.
Many
of
these
areas
are
endowment
lands
as
an
outdoor,
recreationist
and
environmentalist.
Is
it
important
to
me
that
these
lands
and
the
surrounding
ecosystems
are
preserved
for
my
generation
and
for
generations
to
come?
These
lands,
along
with
good
public
schools,
are
necessary
for
the
long-term
benefit
of
the
local
community.
Y
However,
this
policy
focuses
only
on
economic
returns
and
is
not
fully
aligned
with
the
demands
of
the
public
or
the
needs
of
the
environment.
Solutions
have
been
found
to
this
problem,
such
as
in
colorado,
where
the
state
constitution
was
amended
to
not
only
consider
the
financial
aspect
of
the
endowment
lands,
but
also
wildlife,
habitat
the
beauty
of
the
land
and
other
natural
values.
Y
A
large
portion
of
the
financial
returns
demanded
of
endowment
lands
are
meant
to
support
public
schools.
However,
their
contributions
aren't
enough.
For
example,
in
2020,
the
public
school
system
received
around
52.5
million
dollars,
which
only
accounted
for
a
mere
2.5
percent
of
what
the
state
of
idaho
spends
annually
on
schools.
Y
This
would
prevent
the
sale
of
these
precious
lands
to
private
investors
that
aren't
in
the
best
interests
of
the
general
public.
Take
these
points
into
consideration
when
reviewing
the
case
of
the
payette
endowment
land,
whatever
the
final
decision
may
be,
it
will
affect
the
lives
of
many
generations
to
come.
Thank
you.
Z
Thank
you
again
so
much.
I
am
a
resident
of
boise,
so
I'm
not
your
standard
mccall
person,
perhaps
commenting
on
this.
Although
my
family
has
a
long
history
around
payet
lake,
starting
with
my
late
father
being
a
boy
scout
on
the
east
side
in
the
1930s
I'd
like
to
stress
that
the
future
appreciation
of
pels
tracks
definitely
should
guide
your
processes
and
decision
making
now
and
in
the
future,
along
with
new
protocols
suggested
by
many,
I'm
also
going
to
emphasize
something.
Z
Z
I
hope
we
can
all
reflect
on
that
as
you
go
forward
and
remember
that
protection
is
one
of
your
alternatives
here
and
in
that
same
vein,
I
raised
in
my
comments
the
idea
of
outstanding
resource
natural
resource
lands,
as
a
classification
and
your
staff
emphasize
that
you've
got
a
lot
of
comment
on
strategies
just
beyond
mere
disposal
of
these
tracks.
Z
Outstanding
natural
resource
land
should
be
a
classification
you
can
consider
for
these
special
lands,
particularly
tracks
g
h
and
the
two
islands,
and
I
encourage
you
to
look
at
that
and
consider
the
future
value
of
those
lands
now
and
on
into
the
future.
There
are
many
strategies
for
you
to
adopt
now.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
listening.
D
AA
Thank
you,
governor
and
members
of
the
board.
My
name
is
jeff
faraday.
I
live
in
boise,
but
also
am
a
landowner
in
valley
county
and
have
been
a
lifelong
visitor
to
the
mccall
area.
AA
I
agree
with
essentially
everything
that's
been
said
this
morning.
I
just
want
to
emphasize
a
few
points.
First
of
all,
these
lands
that
the
strategy
evaluates
are
not,
in
my
view,
underperforming
lands
in
fact,
they're
performing
magnificently
for
the
local
community,
for
the
economics
of
the
area
and
for
the
people
of
idaho,
just
in
terms
of
the
values
that
they
provide.
That
have
been
amply
discussed
this
morning.
AA
Some
parcels
of
state
land
need
to
be
retained,
especially
if
they're
delivering
such
values,
the
lake
shores
just
and
the
islands
are,
are
really
good
examples
of
that.
The
mountain
front
that
is
mccall's
iconic
view
shed
is
another
example,
so
I
really
encourage
you
to
explore
other
alternatives
for
both
raising
funds
and
for
protecting
these
iconic
lands,
such
as
conservation
easements,
as
has
been
discussed
and
other
ideas,
and
certainly
to
take
your
time
in
this
matter.
AA
D
You
jeff
and
finally,
garrett
visser
garrett.
D
AB
Good
morning
and
thank
you
landlord
for
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
pending
approval
of
pedals.
My
name
is
garrett
visser.
I
represent
the
idaho
wildlife
federation,
idaho's
oldest
and
largest
coalition
of
hunting
and
fishing
organizations
collectively
representing
28
affiliate
organizations
and
45
000
members
and
supporters.
AB
AB
We
agree
with
much
of
what's
already
been
said
today,
so
I'll
try
to
be
very
brief.
To
reiterate
our
points,
we
support
ideal,
taking
more
time
to
develop
the
pels
with
the
focus
group
meetings,
substantial
public
engagement
and
the
overall
publicity
given
to
this
issue
over
the
past
year.
We
believe
it
is
consistent
and
appropriate
to
continue
refining
the
document
to
best
capture
these
thoughts.
AB
We
also
urge
the
exploration
of
new
asset
classes
on
the
appropriate
parcels.
We
continually
encourage
the
inclusion
of
conservation,
easement
options
and
the
potential
for
these
new
asset
classes,
asset
classes,
including
conservation,
recreational
or
water
quality
classifications.
Without
exploring
these
options,
we
may
be
leaving
money
on
the
table.
Let's
take
the
time
to
develop
that
appropriate
protocols
for
those
new
asset
classes.
If
that
occurs,
and
finally,
we
agree
with
many
that
the
land
board
should
extend
the
moratorium
on
these
sales
leases
and
exchanges
until
the
the
pels
is
refined.
AB
It's
apparent
with
this
plan,
as
well
as
separate
proposals
that
encompass
endowment
lands.
But
then
the
area
of
impact
has
pushed
discussions
over
the
future
of
endowment
lands
in
the
forefront.
The
adoption
of
this
plan
may
set
the
stage
for
the
future
of
all
2.5
million
acres
of
endowment
lands
from
timberlane
and
bonner
county
to
those
overlooked.
The
famed
steelhead
runs
on
clearwater
river
and
orfino
to
the
desert
lands
of
owahi
county.
AB
D
Thank
you
to
all
the
people
that
testified
first
off.
Thank
you
for
staying
on
time,
but
thank
you
for
the
enlightenment.
It's
helpful
for
the
board
and
you
are
all
respectful
of
the
process.
Obviously,
you've
been
participating
and-
and
I
know
I
speak
for
the
whole
board-
that
we
appreciate
your
participation,
jim
you're
up.
D
I
one
of
the
questions
we
had.
Doesn't
the
department
have
some
conservation
easements
right
now.
N
And
actually
that's
wrong.
There
is
one
over
in
eastern
with
the
is
it
at
the
bruno.
N
D
AA
D
The
question
is,
and
we
had
some
of
the
very
most
profound
testimony
was
about
conservation
easements
I
mean
we've
got
an
obligation
to
maximize
return
and
maybe
the
department
and
our
sage,
legal
council.
D
I
can
look
at
that
because
that
was
a
common.
You
know
we
we've
got
a
job
to
maximize
income,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
explore
that.
So.
N
D
In
and
I
want
to
add,
director
and
and
jim
and
scott,
obviously
what
you've
done
the
pels
process
up
there,
the
the
natives
aren't
quite
as
hostile
as
they
were
before,
but
they're
still
a
little
hostile.
AC
Comment
please.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
high
school
students
that
testified
this
morning.
I
just
and
and
made
comments.
I
just
want
to
tell
them
that
I'm
impressed
with
them
participating
in
the
process
and
just
want
to
give
them
a
shout
out.
I
thought
that
was
fantastic.
A
Governor
couple
questions
controller,
thank
you
jim,
and
I
I
too
want
to
thank
all
those
who
testified
today
and
then
all
those
who
helped,
first
of
all
to
the
department
for
taking
the
time
I
know,
is
a
lot
of
effort
and
work
of
all
of
you
to
help
coordinate
those
focus
group
meetings
and
we
appreciate
the
engagement
from
all
those
who
participated
and
and
those
that
were
sub
participants
of
that.
So
I
thank
you
on
item
number.
Two
on
the
recommendation.
A
It
talks
about
says
to
direct
the
department
to
lift
existing
restrictions
on
certain
leasing
and
disposition
activities.
Yes,
sir,
maybe
if
you
could
go
into
explaining
a
little
bit
further,
what
what
certain
ones
are
we
talking
about
or
what?
What's
the
reasoning
behind
that
language?
Jim?
Yes,
sir.
N
Director,
mr
controller,
so
we
currently
are
allowed
to
continue
with
our
traditional
leasing,
which
we
look
at
as
grazing
ag
and
also
we,
of
course,
timber
sale
activity.
So
we're
talking
more
of
let's
go
ahead
and
start
exploring
other
things
like
commercial,
residential
conservation,
easements
or
leases
those
kinds
of
things,
then
that
all
stems
back,
I
believe,
to
the
june
land
board
when
we
kind
of
put
a
halt
to
all
all
of
those
activities.
N
A
N
Mr
governor
and
mr
controller,
I
think
we
need
to
lift
it
in
order
to
see
what's
out
there
for
opportunities
to
explore
across
the
board
and
that's
going
to
be
the
challenge,
which
is
why
we'll
need
the
time
frame
to
bring
in
expertise
if
it's
land
management
activities
the
department's
strong
there,
but
actually
being
able
to
compare
the
financial
benefits
of
you
know
the
plethora
of
opportunities
we
have
in
front
of
us.
N
A
For
another
question:
yes,
controller,
thanks
governor
mr
elban,
that
kind
of
point
that
you
just
alluded
to
there
is
some
third
party
experts.
Maybe
if
you
could
talk
to
that
point,
a
little
bit
what's
what's
the
process,
their
thoughts
on
that
and
and
helping
evaluate
the
proposals
as
they
come
in
particular
the
conservation
easements,
because
that
is
something
new.
We
don't
have
that
framework
in
building
and
developing
that.
If
you
could
speak
to
that,
then.
N
Mr
governor,
mr
controller,
the
the
intent
would
be
to
get
some.
You
know
we
already
have
some
financial
advisors
and
other
people
that
are
currently
under
contract
with
us,
but
even
looking
out
beyond
that,
I
can't
get
in
specifics
unless
we
have
a
permanent
example,
but
even
in
the
case
of
conservation
easements,
it
would
be
working
with
the
attorney
general's
office
and
other
council
to
figure
out.
N
What
are
we
willing
to
accept
in
those
how
restrictive
would
the
conservation
easement
be,
and
I
guess,
as
a
land
manager,
my
bias
would
be?
Can
we
have
that
in
place
and
still
meet
other
management
objectives
of
the
land
to
continue
to
conserve
and
and
manage
the
resources
that
we
have
as
well
as
have
this
beneficial
conservation,
easement,
that's
bringing
in
the
additional
income
we
may
need.
N
A
And
thanks
for
the
board
for
the
opportunity,
I
guess
any
other
final
thoughts
or
comments
of
what
was
shared
again
today
of
from
many
of
the
participants
and
stakeholders
in
the
focus
group.
I
guess
your
final
thoughts
on
some
of
their
feedback
and
how
this
applies
to
the
pels
and
going
forward,
and
I
guess,
along
the
lines
of
slowing
down
or
they're
different.
A
N
Mr
governor,
mr
control,
I
guess
the
big
takeaway
for
me
from
this
is:
how
do
we
do
a
better
job
of
letting
people
know
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
come,
do
business
with
us
and
to
do
so
in
a
in
a
timely
fashion
that
that's
a
lot
of
the
information
that
I
think
we
took
from
it.
We've
historically
done
certain
things
very
well
as
an
agency,
and
now
we
have
some
new
opportunities
in
front
of
us
that
we
need
to
make
sure
we
get
right.
Okay,
thank.
G
You
thank
you
governor
and
just
to
add
to
that
I
mean
I.
I
will
say
that,
while
the
management
of
of
some
of
these
transition
lands
around
the
lake
has
presented
us
some
challenges,
it's
also
an
opportunity
expanding
upon
what
jim
said
is.
We
are
open
for
business.
G
So
you
know,
like
I
said,
challenging,
but
there
are
opportunities
here
and
we
want
to
get
this
right
and
I
do
commend
staff
at
the
department
of
lands
for
for
all
the
work
that
they've
done,
building
out
the
strategy,
putting
the
the
focus
group
together
and
really
sitting
down
with
community
and
community
leaders
to
have
some
good,
constructive
dialogue
about
what
endowment
lands
are,
how
we
do
differ
from
the
forest
service,
but
how
we
do
want
to
get
this
right
and
make
sure
that
the
endowment
beneficiaries
win.
So
thank
you.
D
I
guess
one
of
the
questions
I
have
is
some
kind
of
a
time
frame
and
I
think
you
were
pretty
a
candidate
about
the
fact
that,
if
you're
a
purchaser
a
timber,
a
grazing
lease,
even
a
cabin
site,
we've
got
a
process
built
out.
D
If
we
go
to
a
different
use-
and
you
know
we
had
the
discussion
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
conservation
easements,
what
kind
of
time
frame,
what
kind
of
what
so
that
all
the
parties,
as
you
eloquently
described
it,
what
what
kind
of
time
frame
do
you
think
we're
gonna
need.
N
Mr
governor
members
of
the
land
board,
the
internal
discussion
on
that
is
we're
thinking
another
six
months,
so
I
mean
we've
had
a
year.
It's
not
that
we
have
been
sitting
idle.
We
know
some
of
the
ideas
that
are
coming
in
we're
looking
at
that.
So
an
idea
we
threw
around
was
the
end
of
september
would
be
like
the
application
period
and
then
some
meaningful
time
after
that
to
evaluate
it.
Obviously,
it's
going
to
depend
on
how
many
how
many
applications
we
get
for
the
lands.
D
N
D
Of
course,
you
know,
obviously
the
people
around
mccall,
including
myself,
all
have
a
vested
interest,
but
you
know
we
need
to
think
of
it
not
exclusively
to
mccall
but
exclusive
to
our
entire
2.5
million
acre
portfolio,
including
some
ground,
about
a
mile
from
here,
maybe
a
mile
and
a
half.
But
but
the
issue
is
when
we
do
this,
it
needs
to
be,
as
we
do
with
everything
else.
It
needs
to
be
transferable
to
other
other
parts
of
the
the
portfolio
and
do
you
think
you
can
get
that
done
by
september.
A
One
last
question
governor:
I
guess
thanks
jim
and
maybe
your
thoughts
on
this
and
where
the
department
of
director
and
others
is
in
evaluating.
If
it
is
new
asset
classes
and
evaluating
all
areas,
do
we
feel
that
we
have
a
good
process
or
plan
in
place
that
we
can
determine
if
the
pills
is
the
right
thing
and
using
that
to
help
determine
what's
the
highest
and
best
use
of
these
lands.
N
There's
there's
other
stacked
leases
on
top
of
our
traditional
activities
and
new
things
that
we'll
have
to
look
at
and
that's
what
we
want
to
be
able
to
do
is
bring
that
forward
to
the
best
of
our
ability
and
and
provide
a
recommendation
that
gives
you
guys
the
opposition
to
make
a
decision.
The
other
thing
is,
we
do
have
neighboring
states
that
are
a
little
ahead
of
us
on
this
and
there's
I'm
not
opposed
to
looking
at
what
they've
done
and
stealing
some
ideas
from
them
as
well.
Thank
you.
E
First
of
all,
I
didn't
want
folks
to
get
the
notion
that
I
am
just
being
casual
about
this
for
health
reasons.
I
cannot
sit
upright,
and
so
I
am
in
a
recliner.
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
that,
but
I
move
that
we
de
that
we
adopt
the
department
and
approve
the
department
recommendation
as
it
is
outlined
on
page
three
of
four
in
that
in
the
book
I
will
read
that
the
department
recommends
the
land
board.
D
Been
moved
and
seconded
and
that
that
matches
up
with
what
the
regular
agenda
item
recommendation
is
further.
D
N
F
G
G
G
After
discussions
with
land
board
staff,
it
was
determined
to
bring
this
to
the
land
board.
For
today's
meeting
house,
bill
118
found
at
attachment
2,
which
is
currently
being
debated
in
the
idaho
legislature,
amends
idaho
code
58-120
to
prohibit
the
department
of
lands
from
using
legal
representation
provided
by
the
idaho
office
of
the
attorney
general.
G
Roughly
50
52
percent
of
the
billable
hours
for
legal
services
supports
the
agency's
endowment
programs,
while
48
percent
supports
the
agency's
dedicated
and
general
fund
programs
such
as
public
trust,
minerals,
regulatory
or
oil
and
gas
and
fire
programs.
As
you
know,
the
department
pays
for
legal
services
through
the
statewide
cost
allocation
plan.
Much
like
other
state
agencies
do.
The
department
has
remained
relatively
constant
in
the
hours
of
legal
services
used
over
the
past
decade,
ranging
between
6
500
hours
and
8
000
hours
annually.
G
The
department
has
used
approximately
7
300
hours
of
dag
time
on
average
over
the
past
eight
years,
at
an
average
rate
of
55
dollars
per
hour
on
average,
our
total
cost
for
legal
services
is
approximately
four
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars
per
year.
If
house
bill
118
becomes
law.
The
department
estimates
that
contracting
outside
legal
services,
hiring
attorneys
to
work
internally
or
a
combination
thereof,
could
cost
the
agency
and
the
endowments
more
than
1.8
million
dollars
annually
governor.
The
recommendation
is
for
the
land
board
to
provide
the
department
with
direction
regarding
house
bill
118.
A
A
I
do
not
agree
with
the
last
line
in
the
bill.
I
believe
that
the
five
of
us
as
land
board
members
have
the
right
and
authority
to
decide
who
we
would
like
to
provide
legal
counsel
for
our
board
and
the
department
since
1905
idaho
code
58120
has
included
this
language
that,
as
a
landlord,
we
can
determine
our
legal
account
who
our
legal
counsel
shall
be.
A
If
we
do
not
agree
with
the
current
council,
the
existing
law
provides
that
we
have
the
authority
to
request
a
second
or
third
opinion
where
appropriate
as
board
members,
we
need
to
exercise
that
authority.
Additionally,
I
turned
to
my
own
internal
legal
counsel
and
landlord
staff,
member
often
for
his
independent
thought
and
counsel
on
many
board
actions.
A
If
there
is
a
perception
out
there,
then
we
have
an
opportunity
to
evaluate
and
look
for
areas
to
correct,
adjust
and
improve,
I
believe,
as
board
members,
land
board
staff
and
department
staff
can
continue
to
look
for
areas
of
improvement
and
share
those
suggestions
that
may
help
going
forward
at
every
point.
Our
teams
need
to
collaborate
with
each
other
and
stakeholders
to
make
sure
all
points
are
clear.
A
Last
the
business
and
financial
side
of
this
bill
causes
me
to
pause.
The
director
shared
some
of
the
potential
financial
impacts
of
this
bill
as
a
landlord.
We
all
know
one
of
our
key
fiduciary
duties
is
to
secure
the
maximum
long-term
return
and,
in
my
opinion,
I
believe
this
would
go
the
opposite
direction
if
we
had
to
find
other
outside
counsel
to
put
that
in
contact
that
cost
in
context,
the
potential
increase
to
the
endowments
could
be
equal
to
the
same
amount
of
net
income
we
receive
annually
from
the
grazing
program.
A
AD
Thank
you
governor,
and
I
have
to
agree
with
controller
wolf
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
legal
advice
that
we
need
is
certainly
not
any
controversial
or
or
in
conflict
in
any
way,
and-
and
I
think
that
we
do
have
the
authority
when
there
is
a
conflict
to
hire
outside
counsel.
So
I
think
I
think
I
would
agree
with
controller
wolf
that
that
we
should
direct
the
department
to
oppose
this
bill.
A
Hearing
none
governor
for
motion.
I
move
that
the
land
board
opposed
the
passage
of
house
bill
118
in
order
to
communicate
this.
This
motion
instructs
the
director
of
the
idaho
department
of
lands
to
appear
before
the
relevant
committee
of
our
legislature,
considering
the
passage
of
house
bill
118
and
testify
on
behalf
of
the
board
in
opposition
to
house
bill
118
incorporating
the
following
points.
A
First
house
bill
118
will
infringe
upon
the
board's
discretion
as
trustee
to
retain
the
most
cost-effective
and
qualified
services
necessary
for
fulfillment
of
its
constitutional
and
fiduciary
duties
and
number
two
house
bill.
118
will
increase
the
legal
costs
to
the
state
board
of
land
commissioners
substantially,
which
has
the
direct
effect
of
taking
money
away
from
the
endowment
beneficiaries,
invading
the
discretion
of
the
board
in
the
exercise
of
its
fiduciary
duties.
D
I
would
inform
the
board,
just
like
I
do
on
our
budget
bills,
that
I've
got
another
half
that
I
weigh
where
I
wear
occasionally
like
signing
bills,
and
so
I
I
will
not
take
be
taking
the
position
on
this
piece
of
legislation
so
or
this
recommendation
to
the
staff.
So
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
hi.