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From YouTube: Open Space and Clean Water Advisory Committee
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September 1, 2021
C
E
B
B
A
Remember
our
chair,
I
guess
this
meeting
prior.
I
would
like
to
make
a
proposal
that
we
move
this
agenda
item
and
move
it
just
below
the
golden
eagle
ottawa
society
improvement
project
update
because
we
are
awaiting
another
representative
from
bsu-
is
that
all
right.
C
A
To
that
recommendation
and
seeking
any
feedback
that
they
might
have,
we
have
not
received
any
indication
that
we
shouldn't
move
forward,
so
I
am
working
with
tristan
janowski,
no
jetski,
no
jessie.
Thank
you.
A
Kristen,
though
jessie
who's
on
our
parkside
will
lead
riparian
restoration,
volunteer
efforts,
she'll
be
our.
D
B
E
A
The
funds
will
be
spent
how
the
project
will
be
managed
that
goes
to
council.
If
that
receives
approval,
then
it
would
go
with
a
an
opportunity
for
us
to
implement
the
project.
I've
talked.
A
A
A
Just
because
I
think
that's
realistic,
we're
working
through
I,
we
just
had
a
call.
I
think,
last
week,
we're
working
through
sort.
A
That
need
to
be
involved
in
the
agreement
and
then
drafting
an
agreement
which
then
go
back
to
the
system,
society
and
we'll
negotiate
a
little
bit.
So
I
think.
A
Beginning
in
november
is
probably
realistic,
yeah
and
he's
a
great
question.
A
Yes,
that
in
your
packet
is
the
application
is
in
the
back
of
your
packet
and
their
request
for
funds
was
48
000.
A
Great
okay:
well,
I
think
kelly
should
be
here
in
10
minutes.
Do
you
think
we
can
yeah.
A
B
A
C
A
Action
manager,
thank
you
steve.
There
is
an
intersection
between
this
proposed
improvement
project
and
the
work
that
the
city
is
doing
within
the
climate
action
roadmap.
So
he's
here.
A
Intersection,
martha
braybeck
is
with
us
again
to
repeat
martha's
our
funnel's
restoration
ecologist.
She
is
taking
the
bulk
of
the
work
in
managing
and
restoring
habitat.
D
A
A
Last
month,
you
were
given
an
application
to
review
it's
a
joint
project
between
the
city,
a
proposed
joint
project
between
the
city
of
boise
and
boise
state
university
to
try
and
pin
down
the
carbon
sequestration
potential
of
soils
in
shrub
dominated
ecosystems,
and
this
is
the
first
time
the
committee
has
seen
a
science
proposal,
so
we
can
have
a
moment
of
silence
for
that
if
you'd
like,
because
it's
a
lot
harder
to
understand,
what's
happening
when
it's
not
necessarily
a
direct
benefit.
This
whole.
A
Improvement
projects
is
very
straightforward:
right,
we're
going
to
plant
trees,
we're
going
to
engage
volunteers,
we're
kind
of
taking
a
step
back
in
the
process.
With
this
proposal,
there
is
not
good
data
to
help
us
document.
The
ecosystem
benefits
of
our
open
space
reserves
beyond.
A
A
So
one
way
to
quantify
it
is
to
offer
a
carbon
sequestration
potential
of
the
soils
in
the
open
space
reserves
that
we
manage
it.
Last
month.
We
talked
about
briefly
how
it
dovetailed
with
our
climate
action
map,
and
we
talked
a
little
a
little
bit
about
you
know
whether
or
not
we
were
going
to
have
questions
for
the
next
meeting,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
right.
Now,
everyone's
back
mariana
has
joined
us.
A
C
A
A
Informal
fact-finding
opportunity
here
if
the
committee
feels
comfortable
at
the
end
of
this
meeting,
because
this
is
all
we
have.
I
have
one
update
on
idea,
which
will
take
five
minutes,
but
for
the
next
half
hour
we
can
have
a
good
conversation
robust
conversation.
If
the
committee
feels
comfortable
making
your
recommendation
to
date,
if
not,
there's
more.
A
Needed
or
you
feel
like
you
want
to
have
further
time
to
deliberate,
that's,
okay,
so
with
that
being
said,
I
would
open
it
up
to
many
to
you
know,
share
their
feedback
on
the
application.
Any
questions
you
have
any
concerns
you
have
and
then,
between
the
four
of
us,
martha,
steve,
mariana
and
myself,
dr
dorado.
F
I'll
start,
I
really
think
the
project
was
very
well
designed
everything
that
you're
controlling
for
the
soil
type,
even
the
exposure
of
the
slopes.
The
areas
of
the
different
reserves
would
really
cover
all
the
habitat
in
our
reserves,
but
I
just
I'm
just
struggling
a
little
bit
trying
to
make
a
decision.
I
mean
I
think
it's
a
good
thing,
but
then,
when
I
think
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
I
I
kind
of
hesitate
and
I'll
this.
This
could
be
like
going
in
a
weird
direction,
but
what
happened.
F
I
was
looking
at
the
habitat
and
there
were
some
sunflowers
and
rabbit
brush
and
some
sage-
and
I
just
was
thinking-
oh
boy
here-
goes
another
area,
that's
probably
going
to
be
scrapped
and
turned
into
asphalt
and
glass
and
steel
and
we're
going
to
lose
some
more
of
our
stuff,
our
natural
space,
and
it
made
me
just
think
about,
like
the
big
picture
of
our
committee,
you
know:
are
we
really
focused
on
preserving
land
that
we
think
is
valuable
or
you
know,
do
we
put
money
towards
studying
something
that
that
may
have
a
use
later
on?
F
You
know,
maybe
not
a
direct
use,
but
something
later
so
then
I
called
sarah
and
we
had
a
really
good
conversation
and
she
encouraged
me
to
you
know,
bring
this
up
because
I
like
she
said.
That's
why
we're
a
committee,
because
we
think
about
things
and
ask-
and
so
I
was
thinking
like
the
the
information
that
we
would
gain
from
this.
Would
that
really
be
guiding
us
in
acquiring
property
like
a
lot
of
times?
It's
just
like
an
opportunity.
F
You
know
a
private
landowner
says:
hey
I've
got
this
for
you,
you
know
and
that's
a
good
deal,
and
so
we're
going
to
go
for
that
you
know:
will
we
really
seek
out
these
areas
that
have
the
best
carbon
sequestration
potential
in
them
yeah
and
and
then
I
I
wanted
to
understand
more
about
the
city's
climate
action
plan.
I
I
don't
think
I
have
a
good
feel
for
what
that
is
about,
like
the
carbon
credits
and
I
I
think
understanding
that
better
might
help
understand
the
importance
of
this
project
more.
G
G
So
what
does
carbon
neutral
mean?
Is
there's
a
that
word.
Those
phrases
are
net
zero
and
different
things
are
tossed
around
a
bit.
It's
something
different
to
everybody
and
I
think
often
fits
with
the
context
at
which
it
is
shared.
G
But
for
us,
I
think
of
it
as
a
clear
process
and
so
to
where
we
start
is
we
measure
and
calculate
the
amount
of
emissions
that
we
produce
as
a
community,
that's
primarily
driven
by
the
fossil
fuels
that
we
use
in
our
transportation
and
in
our
in
the
energy
that
we
use
in
our
buildings
so
that
the
electricity
and
natural
gas?
So
we
know
that
collective
output
in
we
measure
the
metric
tons
of
co2
or
whatever
carbon
dioxide
equivalent.
So
we
know
that's
our
starting
point.
G
C
G
So
that
begs
the
question
as
part
of
our
carbon
neutrality
goal:
should
the
city
work
to
either
sequester
or
offset
that
carbon
that
we're
not
going
to
have
a
solution
for,
and
that's
still
a
policy
decision,
that's
yet
to
be
made
by
city
council.
So
I
can't
give
you
a
specific
answer
on
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
that,
bringing
it
back
around
to
this
project.
G
I
think
that's
where
it
ties
into
those
discussions
is
if,
if
the
city
did
preside,
didn't
decide
to
pursue
sequestration,
which
I
guess
in
some
ways
we
are
doing
now.
We
have
originally
planning
initiatives,
that's
a
form
of
sequestration,
we're
starting
to
try
to
quantify
those
benefits.
Should
we
want
to
grow
those
programs?
The
question
might
be
asked:
how
could
that
be
accomplished
in
the
foothills?
G
Maybe
so,
and
then
this
would
lead
to
the
discussion
of
creating
science.
That
would
help
us
quantify
the
benefits
of
that
and
I
think
as
to
how
it
could
potentially
tie
to
the
work
that
you
all
do
in
terms
of
open
space
preservation
is,
would
there
be
potential
for
others
to
get
involved
in
those
processes
going
forward?
You
know
we
have
to.
Let
them
have
at
some
point
that
times
out.
G
F
G
G
You
have
to
do
something,
so
you
have
to
take
current
conditions
and
improve
them
somehow,
so
the
thought
could
be
that
this
analysis
might
give
us
that
baseline
in
terms
of
what
locations
would
be
good
to
do
that
and
then
we
could
potentially
or
martha's
team
could
potentially
develop
some
projects
go
out
to
other
parties,
let's
just
say
to
the
ebay
and
then
you
know
create
investment
from
them
to
execute
those
projects,
and-
and
obviously
this
is
all
conceptual
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
still
have
to
be
laid
out
to
get
to
that.
B
E
A
B
About
how
this
is
going
to
benefit
them,
when
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
mountain
bike
hitter,
and
that
that's
the
thing
I
mean,
I
think
it's
a
good
project,
but
I
don't
know
where
the
right
avenues
support
this,
because
it
is
it's
a
big,
huge
scope
of
brunt.
I
mean
it
really
is
I
mean
I
can
certainly
see
like
federal
funds
and
because
this
is
a
multi-year
project
I
mean
correct.
B
I
mean
this
is
going
to
take
years
and
and
and
phil
have
graduate
students
and
students
involved
in
this
for
years,
and
I
don't
know
if
we're
the
right
source
for
funding
like
this,
because
it's
going
to
be
a
constant
there's
going
to
be
a
constant
need
for
funds
for
this
for
probably
10
years,
and
I
don't
over
for
years
really.
No,
we.
A
B
A
D
A
So
two
things
I
want
to
say
it
may
not
be
a
benefit
to
helping
us
acquire
new
properties
in
the
short
term.
That
is
true.
A
It
may
be
a
benefit
for
helping
us
justify
why
we
acquire
properties
in
the
first
place,
and
it
also
will
help
us
with
quantifying
benefits
again
of
habitat
restoration
and
our
existing
efforts
in.
A
For
the
city
to
either
describe
how
they're,
currently
upsetting
climate
use
or
find
new
markets
for
our
climate,
but
yes,
it's
it's
complicated
yeah
and
I
understand
why
it
should
give
you
some
pause
to
think
about
whether
or
not
this
is
an
appropriate
use
of
levy
funds.
That's
where.
A
A
A
A
A
It's
it's
still.
It's
an
ad
yeah.
I
mean,
I
guess
I'd
ask
rob
if
the
is
it
an
administrative
cost,
if
it's
compensating
time
in
the
field.
C
And
sarah,
sarah,
we
could
also
address
that
if
there
was
some
sort
of
agreement
you
that
that's
where
we
could
actually
detail
out
what
are
eligible
expenses
and
what
are
not
eligible
expenses,
so
we
can.
We
could
always
work
out
those
fine
details
if
the
board
found
something
to
be
unsatisfactory
or,
alternatively,
if
they
wanted
to
explore
reimbursing
some
additional
expenses,
we
can.
E
E
I'm
not
sure
this
fits
the
criteria,
I'm
not
questioning
the
quality
of
the
study
or
anything
a
little
bit
like
what
matt
was
saying
just
hard
to
explain
the
value
to
you
know
the
citizens
that
are
where
they're
footing
the
bill
for
this
and,
like
I
voiced
last
time,
I
would
have
some
pause
about
how
we
protect
the
information
as
far
as
intellectual
property,
who's
that
gonna
belong
to
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
just
the
whole
contracting
issues
with
universities,
no
offense,
but
I've
been
through
it
with
other
universities,
but
I
it
just
seems
like
from
a
higher
level.
E
I've
had
questions
about
the
prudency
of
this
investment
from
the
get-go,
so
you
know
I
don't
know
if
I'm
looking
for
a
response
or
what,
but
it's
just
it's
it's
hard
to
explain
to
somebody
that
would
ask
me
on
the
street
why
we're
spending
130
000
on
their
money.
D
Yeah,
so
I
can't
pretty
quickly
explain
what
I
would
say
to
somebody
out
on
the
street
or
in
the
grocery
store.
A
I
would
explain
to
them
that
there's
too
much
atmospherics
here
too,
and
it's
contributing
to
climate
change,
soil
stores
a
lot
of
carbon,
particularly
soil
that
has
strokes
around
on
it.
A
When
we
are
faced
with
things
like
climate
change,
for
example,
we
are
using
vegetation,
we
need
to
restore
projects,
and
all
this
is
going
to
affect
the
amount
of
environment
that's
requested
in
the
soil,
and
if
you
look
at
the
land
area,
it
really
contributes
quite
a
bit
actually
and
so
being
able
to
have
restoration
projects
in
the
future
are
going
to
contribute
to
reducing
atmospheric
levels.
D
A
Yeah,
so
I
think
things
might
have
changed
because
pretty
much
every
time
we
get
a
project
on
it.
Yeah
our
data
property
is.
A
So
when
I
say
that
the
total
is
33
million,
that's
not
all
money
in
parts
and
rights,
pockets
for
administration.
Does
that
make
sense.
D
No,
I
turned
on
my
video
during
pete's
discussion,
just
to
sort
of
add
some
support.
I
was
sort
of
silently
nodding
along.
I
think
the
comments
that
both
matt
and
peter
have
made
and
then
the
concerns
that
initially
initiated
the
conversation
from
michelle
were
all
sort
of
on
point
with
how
I'm
currently
feeling
about
things.
You
know
matt's
last
comment
with
and
I
don't
necessarily
think
it
helps
us
in
our
discussion
right
now,
but
I
do
I
do
agree
that
I
think
the
science
is
there.
D
I
think
it's
needed.
I
think
it's
a
very
valuable
project
and
certainly
is
in
line
with
a
lot
of
our
goals
in
terms
of
what
our
purpose
is
with
this
committee.
I'm
just
I'm
struggling
right
now,
not
to
say
that
I'm
completely
against
it,
but
I'm
struggling
right
now
to
see
the
connection
and
that
this
funding
is
is
an
appropriate
source
at
the
moment,
it's
kind
of
where
I'm
resonating,
but
I
don't
have
specific
questions.
I
just
really
appreciate
the
dialogue.
I
appreciate
the
guest
presenters.
D
I
think
all
of
the
information
that's
been
shared
so
far
has
been
very
value
added.
Certainly
so
I
think
this
has
been
a
really
good
discussion
to
be
a
part
of
I
my
apologies
for
missing
the
last
meeting.
I
know
that
you
guys
discussed
this
at
the
last
meeting
so
anyway,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
comment,
I
just
I'm
right
in
the
midst
of
where
the
other
comments
that
you've
been
hearing
today,
I
think
so.
A
Well,
the
goal
is
to
talk,
answer,
questions
answer
your
concerns
or
thoughts,
hear
your
thoughts,
since
we
didn't
really
have
the
chance
to
do
that
last
week
or
last
month,
when
you
just
received
the
application.
If
we
are
ready
to
make
a
recommendation,
we
can
do
that
as
well
and
then
the
next
step
would
be.
I
would
take
the
application,
the
project
to
mayor
and
council
with
your
recommendations
and
they
would
decide
what
they
want
to
do.
E
You
know
I'd
feel
more
comfortable
if
we
had
more
of
the
committee
attending
to
make
this
like
scott
and
stacy,
and
you
know
they
have
some
expertise
that
we
here
may
not
have.
A
We
just
received
applications
for
new
committee
members.
I
don't
know
when
their
service
will
be
starting.
The
mayor's
office
is
working
on
getting
them
scheduled
for
an
upcoming
council
meeting,
so
it
should
be
very
soon.
Okay.
A
C
A
F
B
E
B
A
That
there
was
a
note
in
there
I
think
from
catherine.
Do
you
remember
elliott
about
having
a
special
meeting?
You
could
definitely
do
that.
You
could
set
something
up.
That
would
work
for
everybody
and,
in
the
meantime,
if
there's
particular
items
that
you
would
like
myself,
martha
steve
or
mariana
and
her
to
make
belly.
A
I'll
find
a
time
that
works
for
everybody,
okay.
Well,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
your
thoughts
and
your
concerns.
I
think
it's
a.
A
I
have
one
update
for
you
today
and
we
do
not
have
executive
sessions
yeah
last
night.
Actually,
I
had
two
updates.
Last
night
we
see
the
council
of
mayor
approved
the
purchase
of
the
horizon
hills
property
that
29
acres.
So
congratulations.
You
have
bought
more
open
space,
firstly
yep.
We
are
going
to
be
moving
forward
to
close,
hopefully
by
the
end
of
september,
because
that's
what
our
fiscal
year
is.
A
That's
my
deadline,
but
yeah,
that's
good,
like
we
like
I've,
said
in
the
past,
we're
not
going
to
be
making
any
changes
to
the
existing
trails
and
access
that
are
up
there.
All
of
them
are
informal.
All
of
them
are
social,
but
this
allows
us
to
sort
of
begin
to
seek
to
formalize
and
protect
public
access
and
public
property
and
habitat
in
an
area
of
the
foothills
that
really
has
no
open
space
reserves
or
for
protected
public
access.
So
this
is
between
full
cap
reserve
and
siemens,
gulch
and
good
job.
A
Announced
one
email
came
in
from
a
neighboring
property
owner
with
some
concerns
related
to
the
details
of
the
exhibits,
the
new
survey
and
the
dismissed
that
were
needed,
which
is
what,
as
I
still
want
to
do
it
so
I'm
vetting
those
concerns
with
the
property
owner's
attorney
and
with
the
surveyor.
A
But
that
was
it.
So
it's
good
and
I
think
one
thing
to
take
away
that
should
hopefully
make
people
feel
good.
Is
you
know
the
personalities,
property
values
have
gone
up
since
we
negotiated
the
purchase
price
with
them
almost
doubled,
based
on
a.
A
And
the
family
stuck
with
the
negotiated
price
until
the
end,
and
so
it's
just
a
nice
reminder
that
you
know
we
have
a
supportive
community.
So
the
other
update
I
have
committee
members.
We
are
beginning
to
construct
the
hopkins
trail.
A
This
is
another
project.
That's
been
going
on
since
2016
we
purchased
the
hopkins
trail,
the
hopkins
range
reserve
properties
in
2015,
and
it
has
taken
that
long
to
go
through
the
environmental
review
process
associated
with
the
trail
porsche
the
trail
because
it's
on
blm,
like
portions
of
international
land.
A
We
received
public
comment
and
engagement
on
this
project
in
2017,
2019
and
again
in
february
of
2021
through
the
virtual
education
event
that
we
did
with
richard
rivers
and
then
the
subsequent
survey
about
the
pilot
management
program
and
also
about
hopkins
range
reserve,
as
it
will
be.
A
directional
trail
it'll
be
almost
a
six
about
a
six
mile
loop.
A
A
C
A
The
stipulate
couple
stipulations
or
specifics.
A
Area
we
worked
with
fish
and
game.
Their
main
comment
was
to
close
it
seasonally
for
critical
winter
content,
so
we'll
be
doing
that
and
then
also
just
because
there's
some
good
entire
grasslands
in
there
and
good
habitat
with
some
native
rare
plants.
We're
not
going
to
do
a
network
of
trails
just
one
with
to
try
and
preserve
the
quality
of
the
landscape.
A
A
But
I
believe,
there's
a
spur,
that's
one
directional,
but
it's
you
know
it's
sort
of
like
a
stack
rock.
B
E
B
E
Well,
I
I
have
a
couple
I'd
like
to
thank
our
presenters
for
coming.
I
hope
they
don't
feel
like
they
wasted
their
time
because
of
some
of
our
comments,
but
I
appreciate
the
the
work
that
you
guys
have
put
into
it
and
the
project
itself
and
sarah
like
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work
on
these
other
projects.