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From YouTube: Boise Parks and Recreation Commission
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Thursday, June 16, 2022
A
A
B
A
C
Okay-
mr
president,
commission
members
we're
flipping
the
agenda.
It
was,
I
think,
pools
was
the
first
item
on
the
agenda.
We're
going
to
go
with
the
second
item
of
the
agenda,
which
is
our
pesticide
reduction
program
and
danny
group
from
our
park
team
is
here
with
us
today
to
give
an
update
on
where
we're
at
with
the
program
that's
now
three
years
in
the
making,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
danny.
A
A
We
had
originally
planned
for
it
to
be
a
two-year
pilot
that
would
commit
that
would
move
into
an
implementation
phase
this
season,
largely
due
to
the
situation
surrounding
2020.
We
decided
to
extend
it
for
a
year.
We
weren't
able
to
implement
all
the
strategies
that
we
wanted
to
that
first
year,
and
also
we
thought
it
would
be
a
good
time
to
expand
the
program
as
well.
I'll
speak
a
little
bit
on
that
further
along
here
to
get
more
feedback
from
the
public
as
well.
A
So
we
will
be
moving
into
the
end
of
our
pilot
program
at
the
end
of
this
year
with
implementation,
a
couple
things
to
keep
in
mind
throughout
this
presentation.
First,
we
had
always
planned
that
we
still
plan
for
this
to
culminate
in
policy
changes
mainly
to
our
chemical
management,
guidelines,
parks
and
recreation.
So
we
will
be
making
changes
to
that.
This
fall
in
accordance
to
feedback
that
we've
gotten
from
the
public
and
second,
is
that
this
program
was
always
focused
on
reduction,
not
necessarily
elimination
of
societal
use.
A
So
this
is
an
overview
of
our
original
pilot
sites.
We
had
we
had
nine
pilot
sites,
we
sought
to
sort
of
get
them
spread
out,
distribute
them
over
the
city
as
well
as
get
a
good
distribution
of
uses
and
user
groups
in
those
park
sites
for
each
of
these
park
sites.
We
we
made
a
plan.
This
is
all
background
information,
I'm
going
kind
of
quickly
through
it.
But
please
stop
me.
A
So
I'll
move
right
into
kind
of
what
has
been
good
and
bad
in
this
in
these
last
few
years,
so
the
real
impetus
for
this
reduction
program
was
glyphosate
at
the
beginning
of
it.
So
I
would
say
it
is
an
active
ingredient
prospect
for
herbicides
is
the
active
ingredient
in
roundup.
That's
been
very
much
in
public
eye
over
the
past
decade.
Increasingly
so
the
subject
of
many
lawsuits,
overarching
company
of
the
monsanto
man
and
our
glyphosate
reduction
efforts,
have
been
very
successful.
A
We
use
glyphosates,
as
in
in
parts
mainly
in
most
of
our
manicured
parks.
We
use
lypostate
around
basic
trees.
We
call
them
tree
wells
to
control
vegetation
growth,
groundwaters
those
areas
and
also
on
hard
surfaces.
We've
pivoted
to
some
weed
burning
on
some
hard
surfaces
and
on
tree
wells
I'll,
mainly
just
discontinued
these
treatments.
That
was
our
first
year.
You
can
look
at
that
as
kind
of
our
first
year,
we
really
focused
on
lifestyle
reduction
out
of
pilot
sites.
A
We,
this
is
the
product
that
I
was
speaking
of,
that
we
are
seeking
to
eliminate
so
in
so
over
the
last
season,
and
this
season
we
haven't,
purchased
any
neonicotinoid
insecticides.
We
primarily
use
them
to
control
in
our
hearts,
which
is
a
needle,
the
larvae,
the
roots
of
grass
and
can
create
large
dead
spots.
We've
switched
to
it
to
a
different
chemical
control,
we're
still
using
a
chemical
control
for
that,
but.
A
So
that
is-
and
that
was
a
was
a
switch
we
made
system-wide,
not
just
after
pilot
sites,
so
that
wasn't.
That
was
a
good
win
in
our
second
year
and
that
has
been
very
successful
as
well.
We
haven't
seen
any
reduced
control
using
the
other
products
that
we
use
increased
mowing
height,
that
put
those
encounters,
successful
and
unsuccessful
categories.
In
some
situations
it
was
very
successful
if
you're
not
aware,
we
try
to
increase
the
mowing
height
to
just
make
a
standard
curve
more
resilient
to
information.
A
That's
what
I
like
to
hear
so
so
we,
where
we
can,
we
have
increased
the
mowing
height,
but
it
wasn't
successful
everywhere
and
then
I
also
put
increased
fertilization
narration.
The
only
reason
I
put
it
into
that
successful
category
is
because
we
weren't
really
able
to
have
the
sites
only
having
nine
pilot
sites.
We
weren't
able
to
realize
some
of
the
time
savings
that
we
hoped
to
achieve
with
reduced
spreading
enough,
so
that
we
could
actually
use
the
pilot
science.
A
That
is
another
benefit
this
year
of
expanding
our
our
reduced
spraying
to
more
park
sites.
So
this
year
we
have
expanded,
we've
reduced
240
application.
240
is
our
property
purpose.
I've
used
to
control
the
enemy
lines
or
other
bodies
of
the
term
at
most
of
our
neighborhood
parks,
so
we
we've
reduced
most
runny
wood
marks,
as
well
as
the
wide
state
reductions
of
those
park
sites
as
well,
and
another
benefit
of
that,
like
I
was
saying,
is
to
see
what
those
time
savings
are
actually
going
to
be
this
year.
A
A
So
that's
kind
of
how
it's
gone.
This
is
what
it
looks
like.
So
I
have
a
few
pictures
here.
This
first
picture
on
the
left
was
taken
at
peppermint
park
just
a
few
days
ago.
So
you
can
see
our
tree
wells
down
here
are
growing
in
with
with
longer
turf
and
and
other
plants.
In
some
cases
and
the
reason
we
don't
go
in
so
without
spraying,
we're
left
with
mechanical
options
for
controlling
these
these
areas
around
trees.
A
You
know
a
nick
here
and
they're
there,
but
that
can
really
over
time
we
just
watch
and
have
a
decline
earlier
than
what
happened
was
some
of
the
damages
were
deserved,
which
come
from
the
mars,
so
in
lieu
of
that
we've
just
let
it
grow,
and-
and
you
know
this
is
this-
is
something
that
we're
we're
still
gathering
feedback
about.
Whether
people
are
okay
with
this
and
and
in
many
cases
they
are,
you
know
it
goes
both
ways.
A
We
have
some
people
to
say
you
know
I'm
more
comfortable
using
the
space,
it
has
longer
grass
in
it,
but
I'm
more
comfortable
using
it
since
you're,
not
thinking-
and
you
know,
for
the
most
part,
people
don't
necessarily
go
to
the
parks
to
use
these
spaces
right
next
to
this
tree
and
most
of
the
park
is
still
available
for
all
of
its
intended
uses.
Here
you
can
also
see
the
clover
coming
in
as
as
well
here.
A
That's
also
something
that
people
are
kind
of
split
on
in
our
feedback,
so
yeah
we've
got
moving
back
both
ways.
This
next
picture
is
from
a
right
outside
our
office
actually,
and
this
site
is
special
because
we
haven't
applied
any
chemicals
on
this
site
in
all
three
growing
seasons
now,
so
this
kind
of
is
showing
us
the
longer
term
effects
of
applying,
and
you.
E
A
A
And
there
are
dandelions,
you
know,
and-
and
this
you
know
I'll
say
this
now-
one
main
goal
of
this
project
was
to
kind
of
determine
what
our
park
users,
what
people
in
boise
view
was
a
healthy
mark
in
2022..
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
maintenance
activities
that
are
kind
of
couched
in
here.
So
it's
kind
of
this
is
what
we've
been
doing.
D
A
Educational
effort-
or
it's
like,
oh,
you
may
notice
this
part
for
daniel
or
whatever
that's
to
reduce
insecticide
views
we
do
have.
We
haven't
done
a
ton
of
outreach
around
it,
but
we
do
have
a
website
up
our
guest
site
reduction
pilot
website.
That
explains
everything
we're
doing
and
in
fact
gives
a
list
of
all
the
park
sites
we're
trying
to
be
very
transparent
through
this
united
process
yeah.
My
initial
thought
would
be.
The
knee-jerk
reaction
would
be
like
this
guys,
you're
being
really
lazy
right.
Well,
if
you
understand
the
context,
it's
not.
A
You're
really
touching
on
one
of
the
fears,
so
one
of
one
of
the
things
that's
been
really
key
to
this.
To
this
whole
thing
and
and
one
thing
that
I've
spent
a
ton
of
time
on
over
the
last
three
years
is
just
working
with
our
maintenance
staff.
To
this
has
to
be
a
cultural
change
both
with
boise
and
with
our
our
insurance
staff.
I
think
that
if
we
don't
have
them
on
board,
this
is
not
going
to
go
very
well.
C
So,
mr
president,
commission
members,
so
when
we
rolled
the
program
out,
they
got
a
ton
of,
and
so
that's
been
three
years
and
a
lot
has.
A
lot
has
happened
behind
the
scenes
over
the
three
year
period,
but
you
haven't
seen
the
results
yet
until
now
we're
starting
to
see
now
after
three
years
what
the
the
the
effects
are
with
the
reduction.
So
I
appreciate
you
bringing
up,
mr
president,
the
concern,
because
I
have
that
as
well.
C
So
it's
time
probably
this
year,
that
we
do
some
more
outreach
and
just
say
hey
reminder,
because
we
haven't
really
done
that
last
couple
years,
because
if
we
didn't
beat
you
sure,
because
things
look
still
pretty
good
last
couple
of
years
and
it's
now
you're
seeing
it's,
it
is
starting,
especially
the
tree
world.
I
notice
the
most
is
in
all
our
parks,
I'm
just
seeing
weeds
growing
up
everywhere,
right
and
there's
not
a
lot.
A
Are
doing
some
of
that
outreach
next
week
is
officially
pollinator
week
national
pollinator
week,
and
I
think
the
city
is
preparing
a
press
release
related
to
the
latest
resolutions.
We
just
passed
for
trees
and
the
pollinator
foreign
designation,
but
potentially
this
project-
and
I
guess
the
new
union
from
rose,
which
is
also
a
pollinator-
might
be
something
that
we
could
try
and
push
for
includes.
A
Mr
president,
they
you
know,
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
make
it
sound
like
we
haven't-
done
any
outreach
I've
I've
been
going
to
if
most
of
our
events
that
we
have
surrounding
pollinators
with
our
with
our
guards
and
things
like
that.
I've
been
attending
those
talking
about
this.
This
pesticide
reduction
pilot
program-
I
just
think
you
know
that
reaches.
A
A
We
want
to
split
those
into
define
those
as
either
aesthetic
or
non-aesthetic
applications.
Aesthetic
applications
would
be
something
that
is
just
done
for
an
aesthetic
purpose.
To
achieve
a
certain
look
to
promote
one
plant
material
or
another,
just
on
subjective
ideals.
A
non-aesthetic
application
would
be
something
that
has
some
functional
benefit
to
our
branding.
So
public
health
benefits,
environmental
benefits
or
you
know,
are
anything
like
like
a
treatment
to
an
invasive
species
or
something.
A
Where
we
would
allow
some
aesthetic
applications
and
where
we
would
not
allow
aesthetic
applications,
so
these
sites
on
the
top
are
where
we
would
allow
or
where
we
were
thinking
we're
going
to
a
wireless
living
application.
So
these
are
sites
where
we
depend
more
on
the
aesthetic
of
park
sites,
sports
fields,
sites
with
special
events
for
downtown
florida
parks.
With
those
big
special
events,
golf
courses,
our
pools-
are
a
little
bit
of
a
special
case
which
I've
been
talking
about.
That
is
interesting.
A
Our
right
of
ways
are
also
a
special
case,
and
I
can
discuss
those,
but
just
for
the
sake
of
time
and
move
on,
neighborhood
parks
and
open
spaces
are
where
we
would
not
allow
aesthetic
applications
and
those
are
the
areas
where
we
see
more
concern
over
the
use
of
those
chemicals
as
well.
Open
spaces
is
special
as
well,
because
really
no
application
we
make
to
our
open
spaces
is
aesthetic,
but
it's
it's
all
to
control
basic
spaces.
A
That's
why
that
is
there.
So
when
we
cut
out
sort
of
this
portion
of
our
applications,
looking
over
the
last
10
years
of
data
applications,
we're
we
expect
that
we
can
achieve
about
a
30
to
40
percent
reduction
in
overall
societies.
That
still
remains
to
be
seen.
We
haven't
put
it
into
practice
yet,
but
it
should
result
in
about
a
third
reduction
in
our
240
applications
and
about
a
25
percent
production
applications
as
well,
which
will
give
us,
since
those
are
our
two
most
used
products.
A
So,
like
I
said,
we
have
been
getting
team,
we
got
a
bunch
of
feedback
at
the
beginning.
We
did
those
outreach
meetings,
it
trickles
in
every
season.
We
have
been
getting
a
little
more
this
season
because
we
rolled
the
basketball
parks,
but
it
remains
to
be
about
80
positive.
I
didn't
change
this
number.
I
think
we're
sitting
at
77
right
now,
feedback
and
you
know
we're.
I
I
just
like
to
emphasize
that
we're
going
to
take
all
of
this.
A
A
B
I
do
have
one
question
reading
here.
You
know
what
kind
I
was
curious
about
what
the
negative
comments
were.
You
know
whether
it
was
they
just
didn't
like
the
look
of
the
part.
But
it's
are
you
seeing
a
lot
of
concern
that
people
are
going
to
get
dandelions
in
their
lawn,
like
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
where
the?
What
the
negative.
A
You
know
yeah
president
carter,
commission
member,
we
that
that
is
definitely
a
big
concern.
You
know
I
I
one
one
viewpoint
is
that
you
know
if
we
don't
control
our
roots
here
and
like
we
discuss
that,
that
term
means
subjective
term.
Not
everybody
is
concerned
about
that,
but
there
are
people
who
aren't
who
take
the
time
and
spend
the
money
to
treat
damage
or
other.
B
D
B
A
Yeah
and
I
think
just
just
a
comment
which
is
on
my
earlier
one,
which
is
like
I
can
see,
I
think,
there's
some
validity
to
the
idea
that
a
public
public
place
that
looks
unkempt
or
sloppy
or
like
no
one
cares
kind
of
you
know:
there's
broken
windows,
something
like
this
is
right.
Where
that
you
know
incentivizes,
or
at
least
doesn't
deter
another
behavior
and
people
can
take
care
of
it,
but
there's
got
to
be
a
way
where
this
can
be
viewed
appropriately
as
stewardship,
and
this
is
not
sloppy.
A
A
E
A
It
doesn't
benefit
our
public
spaces
in
in
the
way
that
we're
using
chemical
use
and
chemical
exposure,
but
also
does
help
us
meet
our
emission
goals.
We
are
reducing
conditions
through
this
as
well.
Many
of
our
products
that
we
use
are
petroleum-based
as
well
and
and
obviously
we
use
petroleum
vehicles
to
apply
them
all
that
goes
into
into
play
here,
so
that
should
be
taken
into
account
as
well.
I
we
do
have
some
signs.
D
We'd
like
to
increase
our
grass
height,
you
know
because
you
have
to
use
less
water,
so,
throughout
the
period
like
everybody's,
been
talking
about,
we'd
like
to
use
less
water
and
we'd
like
to
fertilize,
less
and
and
all
of
those
things,
but
people
expect
when
we
come
to
a
soccer
game
or
baseball
game,
we
look
in
the
outfield
and
that
thing's
got
to
be
looking
nice,
it's
better
than
short,
like
we're
talking.
You
know
inch
and
a
half
to
two
inches
when
it
gets
hot
out.
D
The
only
way
you
can
keep
grass
breathing
guys
when
it's
july
and
it's
98
hours
you're
either
putting
water
to
it
a
lot
or
some
fertilizer
or
both
and
and
either
one
is
really.
You
know
just
it's
it's
hard
to
say
that
we're
just
gonna
continue
doing
what
we're
doing
and
we
should
be
using
less
water.
We
should
be
using
less
chemicals.
D
It's
good,
like
you
said
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
right,
there's
just
so
many
things
for
but
yeah,
there's
there's
a
little
bit
of
culture
and
some
education
that
everything
that
we're
talking
about.
Why
couldn't
this
work?
Just
for
green
grass?
Out
in
front
of
the
school
like
like,
we
just
don't
do
a
huge
amount
of
lunch
in
the
front
of
the
school,
but
not
the
football
field
in
the
soccer
field,
the
baseball
field.
D
Well,
maybe
we
did
treat
that
a
little
bit
differently,
but
still
make
some
some
stride
to
being
a
little
bit
more
conservative
right,
and
so
it
does
take
a
lot
of
that
discussion
and
a
lot
of
communication,
because
the
history
of
looking
at
any
baseball
field
in
the
district,
you
expect
to
walk
up
to
that
baseball
part
of
the
world.
Wow
got
the
dreams,
that's
a
really,
and
I
love
it.
D
I
just
I
appreciated
doug's
comments,
because
I
I
do
I
walk
up
and
I
see
that
big
movie,
really
nice
and
so
that'll
be
important
as
we
continue
just.
I
think
you
guys
are
really
hypnotic
good
about
the
education
and
what
to
expect
you
know,
which
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
again,
help
us
out
along
the
way.
C
Planning,
yes,
so,
mr
president,
commission,
members
and
council
members,
our
two
council
members
on
the
call
have
seen
this
presentation,
essentially
the
same
one
councilmember
sanchez
and
councilmember
hollywood
that
you
saw
a
couple
weeks
ago,
a
little
alteration
on
maybe
the
last
slide.
But
otherwise
it's
pretty
much.
The
same.
C
C
C
Okay,
thank
you
coy
so
quick
background,
little
local
and
south
pools.
They
were
constructed
around
1953.
they're,
a
bits
design,
which
is
a
unique
design.
There
were
several
hundred
of
these
across
the
country
back
in
the
50s
and
60s.
There
are
just
very
few
that
are
still
standing
right
now.
We
have
two
of
them
here
in
the
city
of
boise.
I
believe,
there's
like
four
or
five
that
actually
are
still
operational,
their
unique
design,
they're
double
they're
above
ground,
so
they
actually
are
a
two-story
model.
C
They
have
a
three
foot
as
a
shallow
end
and
then
12
foot
deep
in
so,
unlike
some
of
our
other
pools
that
have
more
of
a
shallow
end
or
kiddie
pool
associated
with
with
the
pool
or
a
zero
depth
entry
into
the
pool
such
as
ivy
wild.
Both
of
these
pools
have
just
they
go
from
three
to
twelve
feet.
So
there's
no
there's
nothing
shallower
than
your
feet.
C
But
what
they
discovered
in
the
consultant's
assessment
is
that
there
were
also
significant
plumbing
and
electrical
and
some
other
code
deficiencies
that
were
actually
out
of
code
and
would
not
allow
us
to
be
open.
Even
if
we
fixed
the
assessments,
which
really
is
the
biggest
thing
that
needs
to
be
done
for
these
tools,
the
biggest
deficiencies.
C
C
C
Goals
that
starting
back
in
november
were
to
really
talk
to
the
community
and
identify
what
their
priorities
are
around
both
of
these
pools
and
then
just
listen
to
stakeholders
and
gain.
You
know
that
deeper
understanding
of
what
they
want
to
see.
What's
the
vision
of
each
of
these
sites
and
then
understanding
that
we
would
create,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
basically
a
report
that
would
go
to
council
with
the
options
that
we
heard
from
our
citizens,
and
that
was
the
ultimate
goal.
C
This
is
what
they
told
us:
here's,
what
those
options
are
and
here's
what
the
potential
costs
are
associated
with
those
options,
so
the
process
started.
In
november
we
had
we
gathered
an
initial
stakeholder
group.
I
believe
we
had
15
or
16
folks
at
peach,
both
south
and
lowell,
as
stakeholders,
and
you
can
see
on
the
list
the
different
members
of
the
community
that
we
brought
to
the
table.
C
C
C
So
our
key
findings
is
our:
you
know
southwest
pools.
They
are
important
functions
for
neighborhoods
and
we
heard
loud
and
clear
from
neighbors.
They
love
the
fact
that
these
pools
are
neighborhood
based,
they're,
really
close
to
walkable
and
bikeable
opportunities
for
their
families.
In
the
survey.
One
of
the
questions
we
that
was
asked
was:
how
do
you
get
to
these
schools
and
number
one,
and
it
was
by
far
was
viking
war.
C
C
C
See
here,
besides,
google-
and
we
were
loud
and
clear
on
that
one.
No,
we
want
no
matter
what
we
do
and
we
want
a
pool
at
these
locations,
so
there
was
no
support
for
maybe
turning
them
into
skate
parks,
which
is
something
that
had
come
up.
You
know
four
or
five
years
ago.
Is
that
an
option
if
these
schools
never
close,
and
then
they
have
a
unique
history?
You
know.
C
I
think
that
that
the
way
I
characterize
people's
feelings,
particularly
from
that
from
the
historical
perspective,
is
that
you
have
a
whole
group
of
people
that
are
just
most
interested
in
the
preservation
of
the
history
of
the
pool,
and
we
need
to
maintain
it
because
of
that,
but
there's
almost
an
equal
faction,
if
not
even
larger,
of
this
nostalgic
piece
that
isn't
so
much
like
tied
to
history.
It's
just
tied
to
I've
learned
to
swim
there.
My
kids
learn
to
swim
there.
My
grandkids
live
to
swim
there
and.
E
C
More
generations
in
my
family
and
other
families
enjoy
that
it's
not
something
history.
It's
just
it's
nostalgic.
It's
it's
been
here.
I
I
love
it.
It's
great
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody
saw
the
article
written
by
tim
woodward
in
the
press
review,
probably
two
or
three
weeks
ago.
I
thought
it
was
good.
You
know
it
was.
It
was
really
him
going
back
in
history
and
and
sharing
how
he
grew
up.
You
know
in
the
pool-
and
I
think
I
heard
that
that
both
of
these
open
houses.
C
C
And
so
that
art
deco
is
very
important,
that
if
there
was
a
consideration
by
the
council
to
look
at
constructing
new
of
visits
at
site,
that
would
have
to
be
bt.
And
we
heard
that
again
from
the
public.
If
you're
going
to
do
something
different
and
it
was
a
smaller
faction
of
the
public.
That
said
this,
like
most,
people
want
to
want
the
tools
rebuilt,
fewer
ones
that
they
have
replaced,
but
those
that
want
to
replace
insist
that
you
would
need
to
maintain
at
least
some
of
the
history.
C
So
this
was
done
this
year,
the
cost
estimate-
and
it's
very
broad-ranging
council
and
either
council,
member
or
sanchez,
can
chime
in.
But
I
think
they
got
a
kick,
not
a
good
kick,
but
a
good,
but
a
kick
out
of
the
minus
50
to
plus
100
percent
of
the
cost.
So
when
they
looked
at
this,
I
think
one
of
the
council
members.
C
C
So
there
needs
to
be
a
work
done
on
this,
but
that
four
to
six
million
was
the
comfort
level
of
a
base
of
of
the
cost,
with
the
four
million
on
the
on
the
lower
end
of
the
four
million
beam
to
rebuild
the
upper
end
of
six
million
would
be
a
new
pool
that
would
be
constructed,
and
so
this
was
just
a
quick
architect
just
scribbled
these
out.
Just
to
give
you
just
to
give
an
aesthetic
view
of
what
it
would
look
like.
Potentially,
if
you
didn't
so
it
would
be
more
modern.
C
It
would
have
that
zero
depth
opportunity
which
basically
zero
depth,
is
you
start
with
literally
an
inch
and
you
walk,
and
it
just
slowly
gradually
gets
deeper
as
you
go,
so
it's
very
conducive
to
small
fam.
You
know
small
children
to
be
able
to
play
in
a
shallow
end
without
having
to
have
a
cable
associated
with
it.
So
that
would
be
a
feature
that
would
have
here.
It
would
obviously
be
built
in
modern
in
a
modern
concept
with
lanes.
C
It
would
be
something
that
would
be
also
more
conducive
to
lap
swimming,
which
in
a
circular
fashion,
which
is
what
you
have
now
with
the
two
pools.
It's
not.
We
still
do
lap
swim
in
there
and
it
works
and
those
the
last
one.
They
love
it.
But
it's
not
it's
not
a
2022
last
wordy
concepts.
So
that's
kind
of
just
gives
you
an
idea.
C
E
C
And
our
public
works
team
is
going
to
work
with
our
architect
and
our
consultants
to
try
to
get
to
to
look
at
coming
closer
with
that
four
to
six
million
on
really
what
that
is.
They
won't
be
able
to
get
probably
above
50
or
60
percent,
because
that's
about
all
they
can
get
to
building
with
the
documents
to
be
able
to
get
a
bid
without
actually
completing
100,
get
it
out
to
bid
and
get
those
costs
back.
C
So
we'll
get
it
we'll
get
a
better
number
for
our
council
to
look
at
and
then
we
will
be
looking
internally
at
working
with
our
finance
team.
Are
there
opportunities
out
there
in
24
and
25
between
now,
and
then
can
we
find
more
funding
out
there,
whether
it
be
philanthropic,
whether
it
be
other
projects
that
we
might
delay
and
add
into
here,
to
get
these
two
pools
open?
Or
is
it
something
that
can't
be
done
and
there
might
be
a
delay
beyond
24
and
25.?
C
But
we
will
look
at
all
exhaust
all
resources
to
see
how
we
can
close
whatever
that
gap
ends
at
the
end
of
this?
If
it's,
if
you
pick
a
number
in
the
middle,
it's
five
or
five,
five
and
a
half
million,
so
we're
still
a
couple
million
short
on
each
tool,
which
is
as
much
as
four
million
total
between
both
pools
over
the
two
year
period.
That's
a
significant
amount
of
capital
dollars.
C
We
would
need
to
try
to
find
so
that's
certainly
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
be
an
issue
to
address
and
then
we'll
get
back
to
council
leadership
with
some
updated
numbers.
Anything
we
can
come
up
with
with
that
second
bullet
and
and
and
get
further
direction
on
where
we
go
from
that
point
and
then
along
the
way,
we'll
continue.
You
know
with
our
average
and
continue
to
let
the
community
know
where
we're
at
with
everything
as
we
go
through
each
of
us.
C
B
B
C
B
B
B
It
was
a
difficult
we
never
went
back
again
until
they
were
old
enough
to
to
swim
by
themselves,
because
I
always
had
to
have
them
within
arms
reach
without
stairs
or
zero
accessibility.
There's
no
way
to
do
that.
So
that's
always
been
a
consideration
for
me
when
thinking
about
that
pool
is
parents
with
young
children.
C
Go
to
pools,
and,
mr
president,
commissioner,
we've
heard
that
from
folks
as
well.
We've
heard
from
some
that
said
that
save
the
pools
I
like
them
just
the
way
they
are
and
with
my
children
we
just
went
to
ivy
wildlife
to
the
natatorium
until
they
got
to
love
to
swim
and
then
now
I
have
to
go
to
south
america
so
that
you
know
I
there's
all
kinds
of
ways
to
work
in
the
house.
That's
why
I
look
to
the
council
members
because
it'll
be
up
to
them
right.
A
Mr
president,
I
did
have
a
couple
questions.
We
kind
of
ran
up
to
the
time
block
on
our
our
councilwork
session
and
we
didn't
quite
get
to
I've
got
a
question
as
far
as-
and
I
am
embarrassed-
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
this.
If
somebody
wants
to
donate
funds
for
the
pool,
sometimes
in
our
libraries
or
some
other
efforts,
there's
a
non-profit
armed
fundraising
that
allows
for
some
of
those
tax
deductions
and
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
that
same
opportunity
when
it
comes
to
our
pools.
C
That
donate
to
us
or
corporations
that
will
not
donate
lessons
in
501
security,
and
we
have
an
opportunity
that
we
can.
We
can
work
through
that
because
we
do
work
with
other
private
organizations
that
have
that
designation,
including
two
in
our
own,
with
boise
river
garden
school
and
francis
and
boise
both
have
that
designation.
So
they
can
be
the
pass
through
if
it's
a
company
like
hp
generally,
that's
where
the
only
way
they'll
donate,
but
most
private
donors,
we
can
accept
their
funding
and
we
can
get
them
the
information
for
tax
purposes.
C
A
The
other
question
that
I
had
and
the
designs
that,
like
we
kind
of,
got
to
see
what
it
would
look
like
if
it
was
redone
you
know,
are
certainly
preliminary
right.
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
like.
How
do
you
do?
Can
you
do
a
zero
depth
and
have
the
lapse
pool
at
the
same
time
like
is,
that
is
that
it
doesn't
look
like
it's
built
into
the
drawing,
but
I'm
just
assuming
that
it's
built
in
in
the
concept
everywhere.
Actually,
mr
president,
councilmember
halliburton,
are
you.
C
A
A
C
E
Yeah
I'd
like
to
just
weigh
in
a
little
bit
here
in
the
surveying.
I
don't
know
if
you're
able
to
to
detect
this.
Did
you
see
that
there
might
be
much
of
an
appetite
from
the
public
who
is
very
passionate
about
preserving
these
pools
to
be
a
part
of
a
philanthropic
campaign
capital
campaign
to
to
bring
them
up
to
code?
C
Get
ironed
out
that
we
can
certainly
engage
some
folks
we'll
do
a
little
rock
turning
over
ourselves
just
with
some
organizations
and
and
grant
opportunities
and
stuff
just
to
see
what's
out
there
across
the
country
for
pursuing
preserving
historical
structures
and
see
what
we
can
come
up
with.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
short
answer
council
member
sanchez
is
yes,.
E
I
I
thought
it
was
really
compelling
the
information
you
shared
at
the
last
doug,
where
you
told
us
that
ivy
wild
was
completely
funded
with
private
money.
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
if
we
we
could
repeat
that
feat
again
and
see
if
people
would
be
to
take
that
on,
because,
as
you
know,
we
we
do
get
closely
scrutinized
where
we
could
invest
the
taxpayers
dollars
and
with
the
love
that's
been
expressed
by
the
community
for
these
polls.