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A
We
still
are
waiting
on
a
few
people,
but
we
don't
need
quorum
to
start
work
sessions.
So
I'd
say:
let's
get
started.
A
We
tonight
we
have
a
presentation
from
our
energizer
neighborhoods
group
is
in
our
housing
and
community
development
division
in
pds,
so
melinda,
mcgoldrick
and
nikki
drake
are
presenting
to
you
virtually
tonight
to
go
over
what
what
they've
been
doing
they've
been
busy
even
with
covid
so
I'll.
Let
you
two
take
it
away.
Thanks.
B
All
right,
okay,
so,
like
celine
said,
we
managed
the
program
called
energize
our
neighborhoods,
and
we
really
focus
on
building
community
and
supporting
residents
all
across
the
community
who
want
to
get
more
involved.
B
There's
a
lot
of
us
who
work
on
this
on
a
daily
basis.
I
know
some
of
these
faces
are
probably
familiar
to
you.
Ethan
mansfield
and
leon.
Ludson,
of
course,
are
on
our
current
planning
team
they're
in
front
of
you
a
lot.
I
believe
you
heard
most
recently
from
deanna
dupuy,
who
is
our
neighborhood
planner
and
then
nikki,
drake
and
myself
round
out
the
team.
B
So
just
a
very
quick
background
for
you,
all
energize
really
got
started
when
the
city
was
looking
at
data
and
how
we
could
better
use
data
to
inform
decisions
and
how
we
could
use
data
to
understand
the
health
of
our
community
overall.
B
So
looking
at
all
of
that
data,
then
of
course
the
big.
So
what
do
we
do
about
it
moment?
Kind
of
came
up,
and
it
was
that
opportunity
when
they
said
what.
If
we
try
to
look
at
one
area
at
a
time,
one
specific
neighborhood,
and
what,
if
we
can
align
all
of
our
resources
as
a
city
to
work
on
that
space
and
then
what?
If
we
can
bring
community
partners
along
in
that
work
as
well.
B
Obviously,
the
city
can
affect
a
lot
of
different
aspects,
but
by
no
means
everything
that
affects
how
a
neighborhood
is
and
feels
and
how
people
experience
their
communities.
So
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
amplifying
that
work
as
much
as
possible
with
our
community
partners
and
then,
of
course,
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
measure
what
we
were
doing
all
along
the
way.
B
B
B
Those
of
you
who
have
been
on
the
commission
longer
probably
remember
some
of
this
work.
Maybe
you
remember
last
time
I
came
and
talked
to
you
about
this,
but
we
did
a
lot
of
different
things
and
all
of
those
projects
came
out
of
what
the
neighborhood
specifically
told
us.
They
wanted
to
see
and
what
they
wanted
to
have
happen.
B
What
types
of
projects
would
make
their
lives
better
on
an
everyday
basis,
so,
listening
to
that
feedback,
really
kind
of
developed,
these
eight
different
areas
where
we
focus
our
program,
the
feedback
ranged
really
all
across
the
board.
B
Tell
us
what
you
like
about
your
neighborhood
and
what
you
want
to
work
on.
It
was
a
long
list
of
projects
and
so
from
that,
really
these
focus
areas,
kind
of
started
to
rise
to
the
top
and
then
also
our
team
structure.
B
So
looking
at
how
we
could
take
those
neighborhood
working
groups
and
really
plug
residents
and
community
partners
into
the
work
that
was
going
on
and
make
sure
that
they're
involved
in
shaping
what
the
project
looks
like
in
making
decisions
during
the
project
as
we
work
to
implement
them
and
then,
of
course,
in
celebrating
the
work,
will
we
get
to
that
point
and
we're
wrapping
up
a
project,
so
that
looks
very
different
depending
on
the
project,
but
people
really
dove
right
in
and
we
had
residents
who
sat
on
a
committee
for
each
of
these
focus
areas
for
just
about
all
three
years
of
the
time
that
we
really
focused
in
that
vista
neighborhood.
B
That's
those
of
us
at
the
city
who
really
focus
on
this
work
on
a
daily
basis
for
nikki,
and
I
that's
40
hours
a
week
or
sometimes
more
every
day,
but
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
other
team
members
whose
work
overlaps
with
what
we
do
and
we
do
a
lot
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
aligning
our
resources
as
a
city,
but
we're
also
aligning
our
programming
and
how
we're
implementing
projects
in
areas,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
excited
to
be
talking
to
you
here
tonight,
is
really
that
alignment
of
what
we
hear
from
residents
and
then
how
that
ends
up
looking
in
the
built
environments
in
which
they
live.
B
Of
course
over
this
all
is
our
strategic
leadership
team
and
those
partners
who
bring
their
resources
their
time
their
talents
to
help
make
all
of
these
projects
possible.
B
So
when
residents
come
to
us
with
project
ideas,
sometimes
it's
something
that
we
can
do
and
we
have
the
resources
available
and
we
can
get
it
done
pretty
quickly
and
sometimes
it's
something
where
a
community
partner
might
take
the
lead
on
implementing
that
project
or
they
might
bring
funding
to
the
table
or
some
sort
of
subject
matter,
expertise
that
helps
us
get
that
work
done
over
the
years.
We
have
developed
a
long
list
of
partners
who
have
come
alongside
the
work
we
do.
B
I
am
definitely
not
going
to
read
this
to
you
or
expect
you
to
read
it
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
Just
really.
The
goal
here
is
to
demonstrate
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
help
us
do
this
work
and
a
lot
of
partners
out
there
in
our
community
who
are
really
interested
in
making
sure
that
boise
stays
a
great
place
for
everybody
to
live
and
that
they
want
to
help
us
achieve
that
goal
and
help
neighborhood
residents
feel
empowered
to
do
this
kind
of
work.
B
So
energize
started
off
with
this
kind
of
idea
of
let's
just
get
a
bunch
of
projects
done.
Let's
hear
what
the
neighborhood
wants
to
have
happen
and
let's
run
out
there
and
start
doing
the
work,
and
we
have
done
that,
but
along
the
way
hearing
from
people
there's
a
lot
of
other
aspects
of
kind
of
neighborhood
development
and
of
community
that
they
were
really
interested
in
having
more
resources
to
help
them
do
or
having
us
offer
as
a
resource.
B
So
the
evolution
of
our
program
has
expanded
over
the
years
to
really
kind
of
incorporate
more
than
just
project
implementation,
but
that's
still
a
huge
part
of
what
we
do.
We
work
really
closely
and
in
conjunction
with
neighborhood
planning
and
the
things
that
deanna
was
sharing
with
you
when
she
was
in
front
of
your
commission
last,
but
really
making
sure
that
we're
in
alignment
there
and
helping
to
bring
more
people
into
that
process
so
that
we're
hearing
a
broader
range
of
the
voices
and
the
needs
and
the
aspirations
of
a
community.
B
The
other
pieces
of
this
are
a
little
bit
more
fun
side
of
things.
Looking
at
celebration,
so
helping
people
you
know
come
together
as
a
neighborhood
and
think
about
what
makes
them
unique
and
what
they
want
to
celebrate.
What's
special
about
their
area
and
then
for
us
capacity
building
is
a
really
kind
of
key
ingredient
of
what
we
do
and
helping
people
understand
how
they
can
engage
in
the
process.
B
So
we
offer
them
resources
and
tips
and
kind
of
how-to
guides
that
help
them
do
everything
from
coming
to
testify
in
front
of
a
commission
or
council
to
how
to
plan
a
neighborhood
event
or
how
to
run
their
neighborhood
association
more
effectively
kind
of
a
very
broad
range
of
things.
We
offer
a
workshop
series.
We
also
host
a
community
conference
and
a
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
different
resources
that
support
the
community.
In
that
aspect
and
then
the
last
piece,
the
administration
and
support
is
really
helping.
B
Our
neighborhood
associations
function
as
smoothly
as
possible
and
helping
them
get
plugged
into
the
different
resources
they
need,
or
the
different
kinds
of
topics
they're
interested
in
and
kind
of,
helping
make
sure
that
that
aspect
of
community
engagement
is
available
and
open
to
others.
To
be
a
part
of
so
we
did
a
lot
of
work
in
vista
and
then
from
there.
Of
course,
the
question
was
so:
what's
energized
going
to
do
next?
Where's,
your
next
neighborhood?
How
is
this
program
going
to
continue
to
grow
so
leon?
B
Actually
leon
letson
brought
up
this
idea
with
us
because
he
had
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
in
the
west
valley.
Neighborhood
for
those
of
you
who
are
who
are
familiar.
U-Stick
was
a
historic
town
site.
B
It's
located,
basically
between
five
mile
and
cloverdale
out
on
the
western
side
of
the
city,
but
he'd
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
in
that
neighborhood
and
had
met
a
lot
of
the
residents
and
they
were
really
interested
in
building
a
sense
of
community
and
helping
people
recognize
kind
of
the
uniqueness
of
that
space
and
that
area
and
the
history
of
that
area
as
well.
B
So
we
started
working
with
them
and
doing
kind
of
our
process
of
asking
them
what
they
wanted
to
see
and
what
kinds
of
projects
they
had
in
mind
and
from
that
we
did
quite
a
few
projects
like
the
landscaping
out
there
in
the
medians
and
along
the
side
of
the
eustic
road
and
then
also
currently
still
in
development.
Is
this
eustic
place
making
project
out
in
redwood
park
where
we
have
moved
an
abutment
that
used
to
be
on
the
side
of
you?
B
Stick
road
into
the
park
and
created
a
little
seating
area
out
of
it
with
a
shelter
there's
a
public
art
piece
that
is
in
the
works
and
some
other
signage,
and
things
like
that.
That
will
help
people
kind
of
have
an
opportunity
to
learn
more
about
that
area.
B
So
we
are
continuing
work
in
that
space
and
it
was
kind
of
a
more
focused
approach
for
us
and
then
in
2018,
one
of
our
partners.
The
boise
school
district,
came
embarked
on
this
new
plan
to
really
embrace
community
schools.
B
So
the
idea
that
a
school
should
function
as
a
hub
for
the
community
and
that
resources
would
be
available
there
to
support
not
only
students
but
their
parents
and
then
also
surrounding
neighbors,
and
so
they
started
identifying
schools
where
they
were
going
to
bring
in
extra
resources
and
services
and
to
us
that
made
a
lot
of
sense,
something
we
would
love
to
partner
with,
and
so
when
we
approached
them
about
that,
they
were
really
excited
to
continue
working
together.
B
E
Thank
you
all
right,
so
the
three
neighborhoods
we
started
working
in
were
south
boise
village,
where
garfield
elementary
community
school
is
located
west
bench
neighborhood
association,
where
morley
nelson
is
and
then
the
west
end
neighborhood,
where
whittier
elementary
is.
E
So
we
started
the
partnerships
in
these
three
neighborhoods
with
what
we
call
this
visioning
process,
and
it
was
really
you
know,
a
pretty
in-depth
process
where
the
idea
is
that
we
want
folks
who
live
work
and
have
children
who
attend
school
in
a
neighborhood
the
opportunity
to
provide
feedback
and
input
that
really
is
helping
to
shape.
You
know
this
community
and
and
strengthen
it.
So
that
included
several
questions.
E
We
asked
whether
folks
feel
connected
and
engaged
with
their
neighbors
with
other
residents
and
then
also
what
types
of
projects
and
improvements
they
would
like
to
see
take
place
to
strengthen
the
neighborhood
and
I'm
just
going
to
break
down
kind
of
the
engagement
piece
for
each
of
these
three
neighborhoods.
So
again,
engagement
was.
It
was
pretty
extensive
process.
So,
for
the
better
part
of
a
year
we
undertook
these
visioning
events
and
we
also
partnered
with
the
community
schools
to
attend
those
events.
E
So
it
was
kind
of
this
mix
of
standalone,
neighborhood
events
and
then
events
with
the
schools.
So
we
had
nine
events
in
total
and
about
160
parts
from
the
from
the
neighborhood
and
the
school
we
also,
and
these
were
spread
out
from
basically
spring
through
fall.
We
also
had
an
online
survey
of
all
those
same
questions
that
was
available
in
five
different
languages,
and
you
know
really,
as
I,
as
I
talked
through,
this
you'll
see
a
kind
of
a
common
theme.
E
You
know
our
goal
was
that
folks,
it
was
really
the
goal
was
to
have
a
you
know,
a
low
barrier
opportunity
for
folks
to
be
engaged
in
this
process
when
and
where
they
could.
So
we
took
all
of
the
feedback
that
we
got.
You
know
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
comments
and
we
compiled
them.
We
analyzed
them.
We
pulled
together
staff
from
some
of
our
different
departments,
parks
and
rec
arts
and
history,
some
of
our
planners
to
really
look
at
that
and
say,
okay.
This
is
what
folks
would
like
to
see.
E
This
is
what
their
priorities
are.
Now,
what
are
some
projects
that
that
address
those
and
speak
to
that?
That
are,
you
know,
realistic,
feasible,
and
so
we
had
a
chance
to
kind
of
vet.
Those
and
brainstorm,
and
from
that
we
came
up
with
a
list
of
five
projects
that
we
then
wanted
to
put
out
to
vote
to
the
neighborhood.
E
E
We
also
sent
out
postcards
so
that
folks,
who
could
not
come
in
person,
were
able
to
mail
those
in
so
they
could
vote
for
their
project
and
mail
it
in
so
again
you
know
the
goal
low
barrier
opportunity
for
folks
to
be
involved,
so
we
had
a
total
of
145
votes
through
that
process
and
I've
included
the
top
two
projects
so
the
projects
that
got
the
top
the
top
two
projects
that
got
the
highest
number
of
votes.
So
you
can
see
there.
E
And
west
bench
so
again,
engagement
you'll
see
the
these
next
couple,
slides
look
pretty
pretty
similar.
There
were
total
seven
visioning
events.
Here
we
had
over
200
participants.
We
had
that
online
survey
piece
as
well
and
then
the
open
house,
this
neighborhood,
has
a
much
higher
population.
E
Site
and
then
our
third
neighborhood
west
end.
So
again,
we
walked
through
the
engagement
piece.
We
had
10
events
close
to
200
participants.
At
those
events,
we
had
the
online
survey,
the
open
house,
and
then
we
had
a
little
over
100
total
votes
for
projects
for
this
neighborhood,
which
is
substantially
smaller
than
west
bench.
The
top
two
projects
here
were
again
an
enhanced
crossing
on
23rd
and
also
a
water
feature
at
fairview
park.
E
Now
all
six
of
these
projects,
then,
for
the
three
neighborhoods
those
are
moving
forward
and
they're
kind
of
at
various
stages
of
progress.
E
E
So
we
we
see
connectivity
here
and
that
we're
talking
about
you
know
physical
connectivity
getting
from
point
a
to
point
b.
So
we
saw
a
lot
of
comments
and
I
got
a
lot
of
feedback
about
folks.
You
know
wanting
more
more
safe
spaces
to
bike
and
walk
pathways.
E
E
We
saw
comments
about
just
general
traffic
calming
measures
and
then
really
wanting
accessible
and
reliable
public
transportation
as
well,
and
then
we
see
this
other
piece
of
connectivity
which
is
really
more
about
the
the
really
you
know
our
connection
with
our
neighbor
and
other
residents.
So
also
many
comments
about
you
know
wanting
some
local,
smaller
commercial
with
with
outdoor
seating.
E
You
know
that
could
really
serve
as
gathering
space
to
get
to
know
neighbors
to
chat
to
to
come
together,
and
also
just
this
idea
of
you
know
a
stronger
sense
of
neighborhood
pride,
a
stronger
sense
of
belonging
and
then
having
events
and
activities
again
where
folks
can
can
come
together
and
meet
each
other
and
then
the
third
thing
that
we
saw
this
third
category,
which
is
titled
healthy
community.
So
this
this
includes
quite
a
few
things.
E
So
we
saw
a
lot
of
comments
about
kind
of
housing
and
development
as
well
as
outdoor
space.
So
folks
really
talked
a
lot
about.
You
know
wanting
to
see
development
that
felt
like
it
was.
It
was
including
the
community,
including
input,
and
you
know,
had
really
thought
a
lot
of
thought
put
into
design
and
whether
it
you
know
fit
with
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
which
I'm
sure
that
you
hear
that
quite
frequently
from
folks
in
the
neighborhood.
There
was
also
talk
about.
E
You
know
wanting
different
one
affordability
in
housing
right,
so
we
hear
that
a
lot
as
well,
an
interest
in
kind
of
mixed
use
and
mixed
income
developments,
not
just
all
of
one
or
the
other
and
and
again
balancing
that
info
with
the
existing
character.
E
There's
a
lot
of
you
know
a
lot
of
feedback
regarding
maintaining
the
mature
trees,
having
some
green
space
and
gardens
a
lot
of
desire
for
community
gardens.
You
know
and
wanting
to
see
that
incorporated
where
possible
in
development
and
just
that
again
that
landscaping
streetscaping.
E
E
So
again,
those
were
those
were
kind
of
the
common
themes
that
carried
over
through
through
all
three
neighborhoods,
and
on
that
note,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
back
over
to
melinda.
B
Thanks
mickey
so
like
we
said
we're
working
to
implement
those
six
projects
that
the
neighborhoods
identified
two
in
each
some
of
them
are
done,
which
is
awesome.
Some
of
them
obviously
are
much
longer
term
projects
where
we're
working
with
more
partners
and,
of
course,
looking
to
apply
for
grants
and
various
other
funding
opportunities
to
make
those
happen
within
those
neighborhoods.
B
The
other
question,
of
course,
that
we
always
get
is
so
what,
if
I
don't
live
in
one
of
those
neighborhoods
that
you're
focusing
on
so
I
just
wanted
to
very
briefly
run
through
some
resources
that
we
have
to
support
anybody
in
boise
or
any
of
our
surrounding
communities
really
who
wants
to
get
more
involved
and
we'll
open
up
for
some
questions
here
in
just
a
moment,
so
just
very
quickly.
Looking
at
planning,
I
think
deanna
probably
shared
some
of
this
with
you
and
she
chatted
with
you.
B
But
she's
done
a
lot
of
work,
creating
a
data
almanac
so
that
our
neighborhood
associations
can
better
understand
who
lives
within
their
areas
and
work
to
incorporate
that
information
into
the
decisions
that
they
make
so
representation
on
their
boards.
The
kinds
of
projects
that
they
support,
the
kinds
of
things
they
apply
for
funding
to
implement
and
really
looking
at
how
they
can
make
better
database
decisions
across
the
board.
There's
also
a
lot
of
resources,
I'm
sure
you're,
much
more
familiar
with
about
helping
them,
testify
at
public
hearings
and
understand
the
planning
process.
B
Overall,
those
are
all
things
that
we've
really
helped
to
disseminate
and
get
out
there
into
the
community
so
that
they
know
sorry
for
the
background
noise
under
capacity
building.
We
have
our
energize
ed
workshop
series
and
those
are
really
designed
to
be
kind
of
a
deep
dive
into
a
specific
topic.
So
it's
usually
a
month
long
series
with
one
workshop
each
week
and
the
most
recent
one
we
did
was
all
about
housing
that
was
pretty
well
attended.
B
Folks
had
an
opportunity
to
learn
about
affordable
housing,
about
adus
kind
of
about
the
different
financing
mechanisms
that
are
out
there
and
then
also
about
the
city
strategy
around
grower
housing.
So
we
offer
those
several
times
throughout
the
year
and
those
also
feed
nicely
into
the
boise
neighborhood
interactive,
which
is
our
community
conference.
It
actually
just
wrapped
up
a
couple
weeks
ago,
we
had
to
go
virtual
this
year.
Of
course
that
was
the
first
for
us,
but
we
had
really.
B
Even
as
a
virtual
conference-
and
that's
really
the
opportunity
for
people
to
come
and
learn,
you
know
about
a
whole
variety
of
different
topics
to
get
plugged
into
other
people
who
want
to
be
involved
in
their
neighborhood
and
really
make
those
connections.
B
We
also
offer
leadership
development
classes
and
we
have
a
whole
toolkit
of
resources,
so
the
photo
on
your
screen
there,
each
one
of
those
is
a
resource
that
our
team
has
developed
to
assist
neighbors
in
getting
more
involved
in
their
community.
B
When
we
look
at
implementation,
we
have
several
different
options
for
folks.
The
most
kind
of
adaptable
one,
I
guess
you'd
say-
is
our
neighborhood
investment
program
that
funds
capital
projects,
so
neighborhood
associations
are
eligible
to
apply
each
year
for
funding.
We
have
a
team
that
reviews
all
those
and
they
get
scored
and
then
the
top
ones
move
forward.
So
we
usually
have
an
annual
allocation
of
500
000
to
support
those
kinds
of
projects.
B
We
see
a
lot
of
things
like
walking
paths
and
playgrounds
at
schools,
public
art,
kind
of
all
different
types
of
projects
along
those
lines,
and
then
we
also
have
the
act
mini
grant
program.
So
that's
activate,
connect
and
transform
and
that's
smaller
amounts
of
funding
that
are
more
flexible,
that
allow
neighborhood
associations
to
take
on
some
of
those
smaller
projects
to
help
build
community
to
help
people
celebrate.
We
have
our
block
party
trailer,
so
that
is
basically
the
idea.
F
B
It
is
that
it's
super
easy
to
hold
a
block
party.
Everything
you
need
is
in
that
trailer
tables
chairs
ice,
chests
yard
games,
all
of
that
fun
stuff.
It's
available
for
anybody
to
reserve
for
free.
Obviously
this
year
during
cove
had
made
that
a
little
bit
more
challenging
and
much
less
popular,
but
we.
D
B
Forward,
hopefully,
to
being
able
to
take
that
back
out
next
season,
we
also
have
guides
to
help
people
understand
different
place,
making
ideas
and
kind
of
inspire
some
of
that
and
then
helping
them
plan
events
and
navigate.
You
know
if
it's
a
large-scale
event.
B
What
permits
do
you
need
and
who
do
you
need
to
talk
to
to
block
off
your
street
kind
of
all
of
those
details
around
things
and
then,
finally,
for
our
associations,
all
sorts
of
different
resources
that
we
offer
if
they
need
maps
or
data
about
their
area,
we
help
them
do
postcard
mailings.
We
have
them
set
up
new
associations
if
they're
in
an
area
that
doesn't
have
one
and
then
really
just
that
ongoing
administration
and
work.
We
are
here
as
a
resource
to
support
them.
B
So,
finally,
we
have
a
facebook,
page
energize,
our
neighborhoods.
We
have
our
website.
You
can
find
more
project
information
there.
We're
always
happy
to
take
any
questions
that
you
might
have
there
at
our
email
address,
energize
city
of
boise.org,
we're
always
happy
to
have
more
people
get
involved
in
any
of
the
things
that
we're
doing.
B
But
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
some
more
specific
questions,
so
I'm
going
to
stop
the
screen
sharing
there
and
if
anybody
has
questions,
we
are
happy
to
chat
or
you
can
throw
them
in
the
chat
and
we
can
take
them
that
way.
G
Hi
melinda
hi-
this
is
jim
bratton
over.
I
wanted
to
ask
you
a
question
here
and
I
guess
for
nikki,
because
it
was
part
of
her
presentation.
G
There
was
a
bullet
in
there
that
said,
balance
infill
with
existing
character,
slash
charm
of
older
homes
on
neighbor,
and
it
was
on
the
neighborhood
priority
side,
and
my
question
is
okay,
so
planning
and
zoning
commission
in
your
opinion,
both
of
you.
What
is
what
do
you
believe?
The
implications
of
this
are
for
what
the
work
we
do.
B
I
think
initially
it's
that
challenge,
that
people
want
to
see
something
that
fits
in
within
the
character
of
their
neighborhood.
They
don't
want
something,
that's
going
to
stand
out
and
really
be.
You
know
that
thing
that
you
are
kind
of
distracted
by
when
you're
driving
through
your
neighborhood,
but
I
think
it's
also
helping
people
understand
how
that
can
look,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
it
necessarily
has
to
be.
You
know
a
single-family
home
that
looks
just
like
the
one
next
to
it
to
still
kind
of
feel
like
a
character
of
a
neighborhood.
B
So
I
think
that's
really
the
piece
that
we
try
to
do
a
lot
of
work
with
neighborhoods
and
especially
with
deanna,
and
our
other
planners
is
helping
to
try
to
educate
people
about
what
that
could
look
like.
So
just
because
it's
a
duplex
or
just
because
whatever
they're
building
is
maybe
an
apartment,
doesn't
mean
it
won't
fit
within
the
character
of
your
neighborhood
and
that
you
can't
work
on
kind
of
the
design
aspects
of
it
to
help.
It
kind
of
still
feel
like
it
has
that
same
continuity
when
you're
driving
down
the
street.
G
Because
we
often
get
that
kind
of
feedback,
whether
from
often
often
at
the
at
the
podium
from
testimony
or
sometimes
from
the
staff
report
trying
to
say
okay,
this
is
a
duplex
right
in
the
middle
of
a
bunch
of
single-family
homes
or
we're
putting
in
low-cost
housing.
One
of
my
favorites
is
we're
putting
in
low-cost
housing
next
to
some,
not
so
low-cost
housing
and
the
kinds
of
pushback
we
get
on
those.
B
I
think
it's
definitely
a
challenge
and
that's
the
same
kind
of
stuff
that
we
hear
frequently
as
well.
How
does
this
happen?
How
does
this
end
up
looking
like
this,
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
can
continue
to
be
doing,
educating
the
community
and
really
working
with
them
to
help
kind
of
idealize
or
kind
of
take
from
their
idea
in
their
mind
and
put
it
into
words
and
pictures
of
what
it
what
it
is
about,
something
that
they
don't
like.
So
what
is
that
reaction?
B
Specifically,
that's
like
I
know
I
don't
like
it.
I
don't
care
what
it
is.
I
just
know
that
I
don't
like
it,
but
really
helping
them
think
through
what
is
it
about
it
like?
Is
it
closer
to
the
street
and
is
that
what
you
don't
like,
or
is
it
the
roof
slant
line
or
the
colors,
and
really
trying
to
help
them
better
understand
that
aspect
of
it
right.
E
Thank
you.
We
we
also,
I
mean,
we've
tried
hard
again.
We
went
through
such
a
big
visioning
process
right
and
we
we
gathered
all
this
great
feedback.
So
sometimes
you
know
you
have
all
this
and
then
it's
like
okay.
What
do
you
do
with
it?
Where
does
it
go
so
we
have
shared
that
with
our
planners,
so
that
when
they're
meeting
with
developers
on
the
front
end,
they
can
share
that
information
and
say:
hey.
We've
we've
gone
through
this
big
process
with
neighbors
with
residents.
E
H
E
A
Yeah
melinda
nicki
thanks
for
presenting
tonight
and
if
you
could
share
those
slides,
I
can
share
them
with
the
commission
afterwards.
Absolutely.
A
All
right,
so,
let's
review
the
agenda
real
quick.
I
believe
we'll
have
four
items
to
hear
tonight.
At
least
that's
what
we're
thinking
so
we'll
have
minutes.
From
october
item
number
one:
zoa
20-2
we're
requesting
deferral
to
december.
14Th
item
number
two
cva
20-8.
We
are
recommending
denial.
This
is
a
signed
variance
on
capital
boulevard.
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
been
a
a
few
commissioners
that
have
seen
this
come
around
before,
but
design
review
committee
actually
provides.
You
all
recommendation-
and
you
are
the
final
decision
maker
on
that.
A
So
we'll
have
caitlin
manooge
from
design
review.
Presenting
tonight
number
three
is
a
rezone,
pd
and
subdivision
on
shamrock.
A
We
are
recommending
approval,
but
there
was
neighborhood
opposition
to
the
site
layout
received,
so
we'll
be
hearing
that
one.
J
Hello,
hello,
hey.
I
know
I
brought
this
up
before
I
saw
in
the
packet
our
sales
brochure
on
that
project.
I
don't
know
anything
about
it,
but
I
just
thought
I'd
bring
that
up
again,
as
it
is
now
part
of
our
packet.
A
Okay,
I
believe
mary's
on
here
it
it
might
be
best
to
recuse
just
to
stay.
You
know,
keep
everything
clean,
but
if
mary
are
you
there,
you
are.
L
F
L
Hi,
commissioner
blanchard,
I
had
one
follow-up
question
for
you.
I
know
that
you
said
you
don't
know
anything
about
this
particular
project.
I
I
guess
my
follow-up
is
that
do
you
or
any
does
any
of
your
direct
co-workers
have
have
direct
involvement
with
it?
I'm
just
kind
of
I
guess.
Maybe
I'm
asking
to
tease
out
a
little
bit
of
what
your
position
is
with
your
company
and.
J
Sure
sure,
well
I
do
sales
and
marketing,
and
so
it
typically
sorry
a
buyer
would
have
received
something
like
that
from
me.
But
I
don't
I've
never
had
any
discussions
with
wendy
on
this
project
and
I've
searched
my
email.
I
don't
have
anything
on
record
in
my
customer
relationship
management,
software
or
my
email
on
this,
but
clearly
if
our
sales
brochure
is
hanging
out
in
the
record,
I
don't
want
anybody
to
think
that
you
know
we're
doing
this
for
some
kind
of
game.
I
Hey
chris,
I
think
this
is
meredith,
I
think
just
for
the
record.
Maybe
we
can
ask,
do
you?
Have
any
financial
gain
to
be
made
through
this
project.
J
I
H
L
Thank
you,
commissioners
did.
I
believe
that
answers
my
question
and
I
don't
think
there
is
a
necessity
to
have
to
recuse.
Certainly
it's
based
on
your
comfort
level
and
if
you
prefer
to
you're
welcome,
I
don't
think
it's
required
in
this
circumstance.
Okay,.
A
So
number
four
is
a
pd
pd
20-35
and
cva
20-58
on
state
street
for
18
multi-family
units
and
a
variance
to
the
front
yard
and
side
yard.
We
are
recommending
approval.
A
A
Number
six
pewd,
20-41
and
sos
20-29
is
a
pud
for
a
mixed-use
development
of
a
church
and
two
single-family
homes
and
the
waiver
is
to
not
build
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk.
With
an
associated
record,
a
survey.
We
did
receive
some
opposition
on
that
wait.
Yes,
I
might
not
have
given
you
guys
the
right
one.
Sorry
we
did
receive
opposition
on
that
one.
So
we
are
going
to
be
hearing
that
one
tonight.
A
Number
seven
cba
20-48
is
a
variance
on
shields
avenue.
This
is
shields
and
horseshoe
bend
variances
for
an
existing
six
foot,
tall
fence
in
the
front
setback
and
the
clear
vision
triangle
we
are
in
part
approving
and
in
part
denying
the
request.
So
we
will
be
hearing
that
one
tonight
and
there
was
someone
to
sign
up
in
advance
for
that
item
as
well:
number
eight
pd,
20-39
and
cva
20-52
and
sub
20-52
is
for
four
attached
town
homes
with
a
prelim
and
final
plat
on
malad.
A
F
A
A
A
K
K
A
Hello
again,
commissioners,
let's
get
started.
A
So
good
evening,
and
welcome
to
boise
city
planning
and
zoning
commission
public
hearing
a
few
things
to
start
out
for
tonight's
proceedings.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak
as
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you'll
be
called
upon
and
unmuted
there
is
a
chat
function
in
zoom.
This
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
A
If
the
chat
function
isn't
available
for
you,
you
can
email
zoning
info
at
cityofboise.org
with
any
technical
issues.
Our
procedures
for
public
hearings
begin
with
a
presentation
from
the
planning
team,
then
we'll
go
to
the
applicant
and
the
representative
of
the
registered
neighborhood
association,
followed
by
questions
from
the
commission.
A
A
A
I
Thank
you
saline.
We
are
citizen,
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
the
city
council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
conditional
use,
permits,
variances
and
appeals
and
recommendations
to
the
city
council
on
subdivisions,
rezones
and
annexations
and
code
or
comprehensive
plan
amendments.
I
Any
decision
made
tonight
may
be
appealed
to
the
city
council,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
So
that's
why
it's
important
that
you
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight.
I
We
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
if
there
is
no
public
opposition,
the
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
are
placed
on
the
consent.
Agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion
without
further
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will
hold
a
full
public
hearing
in
the
order
just
detailed
a
few
minutes
ago
with
staff,
applicant
neighborhood
association
and
then
the
public
testimony.
I
Without
objection
from
the
commission,
I
will
place
the
minutes
from
october
5th,
2020
and
october
12
2020
on
to
the
consent
agenda.
The
next
item
for
consideration
is
item.
Did
I
skip
ahead
item
number
four?
This
is
pud
20-35
and
cva
20-58
for
encompass
inc
at
522
for
west
state
street.
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
planned
residential
development.
I
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand
if
you,
oh
we've
got
them
here
in
the
chamber
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report,
great
that
let
the
records
show
that
they
are
and
is
there
anybody
online
or
in
person
tonight
looking
to
testify
in
opposition
of
this
item,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand
if
you're
online,
okay,
seeing
none
we'll
place
item
four
onto
the
consent
agenda.
The
next
item
for
consideration
is
item
number
five.
This
is
cop
20-42
at
2429
north
coal
road.
I
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
special
exception
for
personal
services.
Personal
salons
for
a
salon
at
an
existing
building
is
the
applicant
present.
I
I
I
We
have
one
other
item
for
consideration
of
the
consent
agenda.
This
is
item
number
eight
pud,
20-39
and
cva
20-52
for
rodney
evans
and
partners
at
3005,
west
mallard
street.
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
planned
residential
development
is
the
applicant
present.
N
I
L
I
F
I
Yes,
who
said
that
commissioner
bratton
over.
G
I
Thank
you
great,
so,
heading
back
to
item
number
five.
This
is
cop20-42.
We
see
that
the
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
this
staff
report
and
is
there
anybody?
Madam.
K
K
That
person
to
go
on,
you
know,
say
something
over
the
phone,
or
do
we
just
want
to
proceed
with
this
thing
that
just
flashed
by
and
chat?
I'm.
I
Excellent,
and
is
there
anybody
online
tonight
that
would
like
to
speak
in
opposition
of
item
number
five
tonight.
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
I
I
do
see
one
hand
up,
I
think
so
was
that
the
same?
Oh,
she
put
it
down,
because
that
was
for
the
same,
the
last
okay.
So
seeing
nobody
in
opposition
of
item
number
five,
we
will
place
item
five
onto
the
consent
agenda
and
the
chair
will
entertain
a
motion.
Madam.
O
O
A
move
to
approve
the
following
items
on
the
consent
agenda:
the
meeting
minutes
from
october
5th
2020
the
meeting
minutes
from
october
12th,
2020
and
item
number
four
and
item
number
five.
P
I
Great,
we
have
a
second
from
commissioner
moore
will
the
is
without
any
discussion?
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
vote
dad.
O
J
M
I
Okay,
we
also
have
two
items
that
are
requesting
deferral
where
we
will
take
them
one
at
a
time.
The
first
item
requesting
deferral
is
item
number
one.
This
is
the
zoa
20-2
planning
and
development
services
requesting
a
referral
to
december
14th.
This
is
a
zoning
ordinance
amendment
to
boise
city
code,
chapter
11-6-3.4.
I
I
don't
think
that
would
have
been.
Would
that
be
a
public
hearing.
I
Okay,
so
is
there
anybody
present
tonight
who
would
not
be
able
to
return
to
the
december
14th
proposed
date?
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
I
M
I
Okay,
so
the
next
item
is
item
number
nine.
This
is
pud
20-40,
mason
and
associates
at
12242,
west
ginger
creek
drive
also
sub
20-54
via
amora
state
subdivision,
both
requesting
referral
to
december
7th.
This
is
a
preliminary
and
final
plot
for
residential
subdivision
and
a
conditional
use
permit
for
planned
residential
subdivision.
Is
there
anybody
present
tonight?
That
would
not
be
able
to
return
to
testify
on
december
7th
for
item
number.
I
I
Okay,
seeing
none
then
we
will.
I
will
take
a
motion
to
defer
item
number
nine.
I
J
Q
I
R
R
The
proposed
wall
sign
would
replace
the
existing
key
bank
wall
sign
that
faces
idaho
street.
The
existing
sign
was
approved
at
60
square
feet
in
2010,
and
the
proposed
sign
is
updated
to
align
with
the
company's
current
branding.
The
proposed
sign
area
is
277
square
feet
which
exceeds
the
maximum
65
square
feet
allowed
in
the
capital,
boulevard
overlay
and
the
key
bank.
Letters
are
approximately
five
feet
tall.
The
key
logo
is
approximately
six
feet.
Eight
inches
and
the
sign
length
is
approximately
44
feet.
R
The
compared
to
the
existing
sign.
The
proposed
sign
is
in
essentially
the
same
location,
but
it's
centered
on
the
southernmost
wall.
The
existing
sign
is
lighted
and
the
proposed
sign
is
also
proposed
to
be
lighted,
and
the
applicant
has
indicated
it
will
not
be
any
brighter.
The
proposed
sign
is
no
closer
to
capital
boulevard
than
the
existing
sign.
R
The
capital
boulevard
special
design
district
extends
one
block
on
either
side
of
capitol
boulevard,
and
there
are
additional
sign
criteria
within
that
overlay.
To
ensure
signage
does
not
detract
from
capital
boulevard.
District
wall
signs
are
limited
to
15
percent
of
the
wall
area
in
size
or
65
square
feet.
Whichever
is
less
and
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
exceed
that
65
square
feet
and
do
a
277
square
foot
sign.
R
I
Thank
you
so
much
miss
menu.
So
next
we
will
hear
from
the
applicant
and
we'll
start
with
10.
I
T
U
S
S
S
S
We
are
seeking
relief
from
the
application
of
the
65
square
foot
sign
code
requirement
it
is,
is,
it
is
not
practical,
given
the
building
location
in
conjunction
with
the
surrounding
structures,
as
noted,
the
tower
plaza
building
is
directly
across
west
idaho
street,
and
that
is
unique
to
our
situation
and
thus
blocking
the
visibility
of
the
sign.
S
S
S
Overall,
the
new
sign
is
actually
two
inches
shorter
than
the
existing
sign.
It's
just
longer.
The
existing
sign
is
also
mounted
on
the
corner
of
the
building
at
west,
idaho
and
capital.
The
new
sign
will
be
be
positioned,
further
down
west,
idaho,
and
thus
will
this
will
be
reduce
the
sign's
impact
on
capital
boulevard.
S
The
new
sign
will
not
illuminate
any
brighter
than
the
existing
sign
and,
furthermore,
we're
willing
to
regulate
the
sign,
so
it
is
turned
off
between
the
hours
of
10
pm
and
6
a.m,
as
a
concession,
thus
based
on
these
we'd,
like
to
be
granted
exception
to
install
this
larger
linear
sign,
so
it
can
have
better
visibility
from
the
east
and
the
west
of
west
idaho
street.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
mr
darius.
This
is
looks
like
it's
in
the
downtown
boise
neighborhood
association.
Do
we
have
anybody
present
that
would
like
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
neighborhood
association.
I
Seeing
none
we'll
move
on
to
questions
from
the
commission.
Madam.
K
Is
a
question
for
the
city
for
caitlyn?
First
of
all,
good
job
welcome,
I
don't
think
we've
seen
you
at
the
podium
before,
but
I'm
elderly
and
could
be
wrong.
My
real
question,
however,
is:
can
you
talk
about
the
the
different
ways
we're
either
calculating
or
thinking
about
the
square
footage
of
the
sign?
The
applicant
made
a
comment
that
it's
not,
I
think,
is
it
266
feet
that
you
think
that
the
city
calculated
said
that.
R
Gillespie,
so
the
proposed
sign
is
277
square
feet
proposed,
so
the
there's
a
quite
a
few
different
ways:
we
limit
signage.
R
K
Thank
you
caitlyn.
I
was
also
interested
in
the
the
applicant
had
sort
of
a
different
number
for
the
size
of
the
sign.
I
think,
based
just
maybe
on
the
letters
in
the
red
key
and
not
counting
the
illuminated
white
space
around
it.
That
is
from
your
point
of
view.
Part
of
the
sign
is
that
correct.
R
C
R
That
and
then
I
think,
for
the
the
proposed
sign.
We
would
measure
a
box
around
the
key
bank,
so
we
generally
just
measure
in
boxes.
So
we
could
do
a
separate
box
for
the
key
bank
text
and
then
a
separate
box
for
the
key
logo.
F
K
G
Yes,
this
is
a
question
for
caitlyn,
so
I'm
wondering
the
point
was
made
that
there
are
some
other
signs
in
the
area
in
the
same
overlay
that
are
larger.
Could
you
comment
on
on
what
those
sizes
are
and
and
how
they,
how
they
met,
happened
to
be
there.
R
Yeah,
madam
chairman,
commissioner
bratton
ober.
I
know
there
are
some
larger
signs
that
have
received
variances
before
and
I
don't
have
a
list
of
which
signs
those
are,
but
there
have
been
the
ones
that
are
larger
have
been
granted
variances,
and
that
is
why
they
are
larger.
R
R
Madam
chair,
commissioner
gillespie
the
65
square
feet
from
what
I
could
tell
was
in
place
since
1998..
So
some
of
those
signs,
I
think
most
of
those
signs
that
are
larger.
I
have
received
variances
and
that's
how
they're
in
place.
O
Man,
I'm
sure,
and
just
be
clear,
those
in
those
existing
signs
that
are
larger
they
they
are
within
the
capital.
Boulevard
overlay
is
that
correct.
R
Correct
yeah,
some
of
the
signs,
so
it's
one
block
on
either
side
of
capitol
boulevard.
So
within
there
you
have
like
the
u.s
bank
building
and
the
grove
hotel.
I
believe
the
grove
hotel
did
receive
some
variances.
R
I
believe
the
I
don't,
I'm
not
positive
on
the
others,
but
I
know
there
are
a
couple
others
in
there
that
have
also
received
variances.
Okay,.
W
I
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
moore
and
then
commissioner
brat
number.
P
So
when
this
overlay
district
was
put
into
place,
was
this
was
the
key
key
bank
building
already
there?
Was
it
existing
at
that
time?.
R
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
moore
yes,
the
key
bank
building
was
existing
at
that
time.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
again,
caitlyn.
We
seem
to
be
picking
on
you.
Sorry
about
that.
I
have
a
question
the
this
is
a
gateway
area
and
particularly
as
you
look
at
coming
down
the
hill
there,
one
of
the
more
beautiful
gateways
in
boise
and
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
but
this
is
what
I
want
to
calibrate
with
you.
The
sign
is
readily
visible,
as
you
start
to
come
down.
Capital
boulevard
from
the
train
station
is
that
correct.
R
G
Commissioner
brought
number
so
okay,
so
it's
blocked
by
the
tower
now,
if
the
sign
was
even
expanded
from
that
point,
wouldn't
it
still
be
fairly
obscured
by
that
building.
G
I
Okay,
so
then
we
don't
have
anybody
signed
up
for
this
item?
Do
we
have
anybody
online
or
in
person
today?
That
would
like
to
testify
on
this
item.
I
Okay,
seeing
none
we
can
go
back
to
mr
darius
for
a
rebuttal
if
you'd
like
to.
I
don't
know
if-
or
you
were
welcome
to
waive
that
since
we
didn't
have
testimony.
S
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity.
S
Yes,
I
would
like
to
address
one
comment
here
in
regards
to
the
visibility
of
the
sign,
so
by
replacing
the
existing
sign
with
the
linear
sign
and
centering
it
on
the
sign
band,
it
is
true
it
will
not
gain
any
more
visibility
along
capitol
boulevard.
However,
it
will
give
or
provide
more
visibility
from
the
east
and
the
west
along
west,
idaho
street,
because
it
will
be
more
centered
in
that
sign
band.
So
from
that
perspective,
we
believe
that
that
would
be
an
advantage
for
us.
I
I
Thank
you
second
from
commissioner
schaefer.
Is
there
any
discussion.
G
While
I
understand
what
the
applicant's
trying
to
achieve
here,
it's
not
clear
that
this
is
a
solution
for
that,
although
it
gives
some
out
of
visibility,
east
and
west,
which
is
already
there,
which
may
or
may
not
be
improved
just
by
centering.
The
existing
sign,
I'm
not
sure,
because
we
did
not
have
an
opportunity
to
explore
that.
O
I'll
just
quickly
chime
in
I'm,
obviously
in
the
support
of
the
motion,
I
agree
with
our
colleagues
in
design
review.
I
I
just
can't
quite
get
there
with
their
part
with
their
description
of
the
hardship
that
they're
facing,
and
I
think
that
the
sign
code
is
appropriate.
You
know
for
that
corridor
and
I
think
that
there
wasn't
an
error
made
by
design
review
in
evaluating
the
sign
and
therefore
I'm
in
support
of
the
motion.
P
I
too,
am
in
support
of
the
motion.
I
agree
with
design
review
again.
I
don't
see
any
anything
that
I
disagree
with
their
summary
of
their
discussion.
I
Great
okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
to
deny
cva
20-8
and
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
vote.
J
D
I
I
U
The
applicant
requests
to
rezone
the
property
from
r1a,
which
allows
up
to
2.1
units
per
acre
to
r1c,
which
allows
up
to
8
units
per
acre.
The
planning
team
finds
r1c
zone
to
be
appropriate
as
a
comprehensive
plan
designates
the
site
as
compact
on
the
land
use
map
within
which
the
r1c
zone
is
allowed,
and
the
property
to
the
north,
west
and
east
are
also
zoned
r1c.
U
The
applicant
does
propose
to
construct
11
new
detached
single-family
homes
in
two
phases.
In
addition
to
the
existing
single
family
home
on
the
property,
each
dwelling
will
provide
two
off-street
parking
spaces.
Amenities
will
be
provided
with
drought,
tolerant
landscaping,
a
common
green
space
and
a
pedestrian
and
bicycle
micro
pathway.
Connection
to
shamrock
street
the
applicant
is
requesting
reduced
minimum
lot,
sizes,
widths
and
reduced
interior
setbacks.
U
The
planning
team
has
recommended
several
conditions
of
approval,
as
shown
in
this
slide.
These
conditions
will
provide
for
sidewalk
on
the
north
side
of
the
private
drive
and
will
ensure
that
the
proposed
pathway,
connection
to
shamrock
avenue,
complies
with
all
the
requirements
of
code
and
allows
for
public
access.
The
applicant
has
agreed
to
all
these
conditions.
U
I
Thank
you
miss
nelson.
I
will
now
move
to
hear
from
the
applicant
we'll
start
with
10
minutes,
and
please
start
with
your
name
and
address.
X
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
okay,
I'm
wendy
clark
and
I
own
dark
horse
for
this
project.
I'll,
keep
it
real
short,
because
we
do
just
we
agree
with
everything
that's
been
recommended
by
by
the
team.
X
We
got
together
with
bart
and
his
team
again
at
leap
housing
to
develop
a
piece
of
property
that
is
close
to
transit
and
accessing
services
that
are
already
in
place
with
very
little
with
very
little
effort.
X
We
wanted
to
create
a
community
type
of
environment
by
keeping
the
road
private
and
but
also
allow
for
public
access
to
a
bike
path
to
give
people
that
are
already
in
those
adjacent
neighborhoods
an
opportunity
to
hit
that
bike
path
a
little
easier,
and
we
wanted
to
maintain
some
consistency
with
the
neighborhoods
that
are
already
there,
that
single
family
feel.
So
we
didn't
want
attached
units
or
duplexes.
X
So
that's
that's
pretty
much
it
we're
excited
to
bring
another
project
to
boise
that
will
create
affordable
homes
for
families,
and
we
hope
that
you
find
this
property
as
as
lucky
as
as
we
did.
I
Great
thank
you.
It
does
not
look
like
this.
Has
a
neighborhood
association
actually
so
we'll
move
right
on
to
questions
from
the
commission.
C
K
So,
which
is
the
property
that
which
one
of
these
can't
be
built
until
nicole
goes
through?
I
didn't
quite
get
all
that.
Y
U
K
U
Madam
chair,
commissioner
gillespie
that's
correct,
although
shamrock
does
drop
to
a
much
smaller
width.
K
U
I'm
chair,
commissioner
gillespie.
There
is
a
ditch
the
I'm
gonna
blank
on
the
name
of
the
canal,
but
there's.
K
K
U
These
are
developed
with
homes
where
you
could
not
punch
through
a
road.
K
G
You
chair,
commissioner,
so
a
question
for
the
applicant:
you
describe
this
as
affordable
housing
and
then
some
numbers
are
laid
out
in
terms
of
policy
80
affordable
by
those
earning
80
percent
of
the
area
median
income.
G
Now
my
figures
may
be
out
of
date
because
we're
in
2020,
but
the
numbers
got
worse
because
of
covet,
I'm
sure
in
terms
of
median
incomes,
but
in
2019
it
was
around
78k
and
as
I
pencil
that
out
using
the
standard
of
30
percent
housing
costs
as
something
that
that
approaches
affordability
come
out
with
something
close
to
2
000
per
month.
Housing
cost
is
that
your
understanding
of
of
what
these
these
units
will
go
for
will
will
have
in
terms
of
either
rent
or
mortgage.
What
have
you.
X
Leap
housing
is
going
to
manage
that
part
of
it
they're
very
good.
At
doing
that
sort
of
thing,
they've
got
a
project
already
on
shields
avenue
in
boise.
That
is
taking
advantage
of
the
same
types
of
programs
that
they'll
deploy
to
build
these
houses
on
this
property.
So
they'll
rely
on
funding
through
various
sources
and
to
keep
those
actual
costs
to
them
down
and
be
able
to
manage
the
houses
through
leap
housing
to
ensure
that
they
meet
those
metrics.
X
That's
it
exactly.
I.
I
know
that
that
whatever
the
numbers
are
that
that's
what
they're
that's
what
they're
targeting
and
in
fact
I
think
that
bart
is
present
tonight
and
it's
possible
that
he
may
be
able
to
answer
that
more
accurately
than
I
can.
U
Who's
bart,
madam
chair
bart,
is
the
head
of
leap,
housing
solutions,
who's,
a
partner
on
the
project.
Great
thank
you,
that'd
be
great.
Yes,.
M
Z
Yeah,
I
can
give
you
just
a
quick
answer:
if
it's
okay,
great
the
the
project
we
target
to
today,
80
of
area
median
income,
just
to
give
you
a
metric,
would
be
approximately
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
a
family
of
four.
So
it
changes
with
the
size
of
the
family.
Z
The
this
project,
specifically
we'll
be
we'll
be
hoping
to
be
able
to
provide
to
do
a
for
sale
project
versus
a
rental
project
through
the
leap,
housing,
trust
and
our
target
is
300,
000
or
less
so
with
a
median
area,
median
home
price
right
now
at
well
north
of
four,
it's
in
the
mid
fours
now
for
new
construction,
our
target
price
will
be
200
or
about
300
thousand
dollars
or
less
that's.
K
K
The
only
place
that
talks
about
affordability
or
a
diversity
of
housing
type
is
the
comp
plan,
and
even
there
it
doesn't
provide
any
specific
affordability
thresholds
in
terms
of
you
know,
ratios
of
income.
So
I
guess
my
question
to
the
city
is
your
plan?
Doesn't
your
report
doesn't
talk
about?
It?
Is
the
city
even
comfortable,
inserting
that
kind
of
analysis
into
the
record
or
or
we
need
to
stay
with
just
what
the
comp
plan
says
on
diversity
of
housing
type,
I
mean:
what's
your
thinking
on
that.
U
Madam
chair,
commissioner
gillespie,
we
don't
have
anything
to
necessarily
hold
them
to
the
80
percent
or
the
particular
prices.
Although
I,
I
trust
that
elite
housing
solutions
is
a
partner
on
the
project,
they
submitted
a
letter
and
they
that
is
what
they
said.
They
intend
to
do
with
the
property
and
it
does
certainly
meet
many
of
our
goals
and
our
comprehensive
plan
with
the
mix
of
housing
and
affordable
housing
needs
and,
of
course
it
meets
some
of
our
strategic
priorities
as
a
city.
P
Manager,
one
question
slightly
unrelated,
so
the
two
roads
on
nichols
and
shamrock
are
those
both
classified
as
local
roads
or
are
those
private.
U
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
moore
nicole,
is
a
local
road.
Shamrock
is
actually
a
collector
strangely,
despite
how
narrow
it
is
with
pavement
at
the
moment.
Okay,
thank
you.
K
Madam
chairman,
commissioner
gloucester
just
to
follow
up
on
this
question
of
of
this
80,
so
it
is
in
the
first
paragraph
of
your
report
and
you
reference
it's
in
the
same
sentence
as
goal,
and
this
presumably
from
the
blueprint
call
nac
9.
does
goal.
Nac
9
specifically
mention
a
percentage
of
area
median
income
in
it,
or
is
it
a
more
general
without
a
number
I
and
I
don't
I
could
I
can't
get
an
internet
connection,
so
I
can't
look
up
nac
nine.
I
would
maybe
someone
on
the
commission
looks
like
bob's
got.
U
G
G
I
appreciate
commission
commissioner
gillespie's
questions
because
I
think
that's
that's
an
important
point
to
make.
That
is
that
we
are
not
dictating
those
numbers
they
are
offered
up
by
the
developer,
and
I
find
that
to
be
very
laudable
because
they
definitely
put
their
money
where
their
mouth
is
in
terms
of
what
kinds
of
targets
that
they're
trying
to
meet.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
O
I
was
a
little
confused
in
some
of
that
and
how
you
kind
of
described
recommending
placing
the
sidewalk
on
the
north
side
of
the
private
drive.
Can
you
walk
us
back
through
maybe
you're?
Just
your
your
approach.
There.
U
There
was
a
thought
that
perhaps
this
private
lane
could
combine
with
the
land
to
the
south
to
provide
some
other
connection
point
to
make
that
development
work
better.
O
They're
just
so
your
thought
process
is
that
perhaps
if,
if
let's
say,
if
this
were
to
develop,
this
development
were
to
mirror
itself
to
the
south,
that
perhaps
houses
on
the
south
side
of
the
private
drive
could
take
access,
but
the
sidewalk
wouldn't
be
an
encumbrance
to
that
access.
Is
that
generally
close
to
what
you're
thinking.
U
I
Okay,
seeing
no
more
questions,
I
do
have
one
person
on
the
sign
up
sheet
for
this
steve
malone.
I
I
Do
we
have
is
steve
malone
here
or
is
there
anybody
else
that
would
like
to
testify
on
this
item
tonight?
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
I
X
I
don't
really
have
a
rebuttal
necessarily
except
to
suggest
that
there
it
seems
to
me
and
carl-
and
I've
talked
a
little
bit
about
this.
It
seems
to
me
there
are.
There
are
10
feet
here
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
landscape
buffer,
that
we
could
do
something
really
meaningful
with
and
make
a
very
cool
kind
of
bike
path,
pedestrian
pathway
down
that
side.
X
That
was
the
only
thought
I
had
is
that
we've
got
this
five
foot
landscape
buffer
buffer,
which
I
mean,
if
you
see
it's
just
more
expense
for
the
neighborhood
to
kind
of
maintain,
whereas
for
no
reason,
whereas,
if
it
were
a
nice
kind
of
10-foot
suave
there,
we
could
maybe
do
something
pretty
cool.
You
know
with
a
bike
path:
they
wouldn't
have
a
sidewalk
close
to
the
houses.
Obviously
it
would
be
across
the
road,
but
no
matter
how
you
slice
it
they've
got
to
cross
the
road
anyway.
X
So
I'm
not
sure
whether
it's
a
it's
necessarily
a
safety
concern,
and
I
would
suggest
that
the
likelihood
that
house
to
the
I
guess
it
would
be
to
the
south
of
our
existing
house
is
a
is
a
pretty
nice
house
and
I
think
that
would
have
to
get
demolished
in
order
for
that
road
to
go
through
there.
X
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
necessarily
a
I
don't
know
if
it's
fair
to
say
a
good
reason,
but
a
likely
occurrence
for
them
to
knock
that
house
down
and
carry
that
road
through
just
something
to
think
about
the
layout
works
for
us.
We
have
no
objections
whatsoever.
It
just
seems
a
shame
not
to
take
that
10
feet.
Do
something
really
cool
with
it
along
that
southern
boundary.
That
would
be
my
only
thought.
X
I
You
wendy
great
well
we'll
close
the
hearing,
and
the
item
is
before
the.
AA
Commission,
madam
chair
commissioner
finfrock.
Yes,
I
move
to
approve
pud,
20-38
and
recommend
approval
of
car,
20-12
and
sub-20-45.
G
I
AA
Yeah,
madam
chair,
I
I
just,
I
think
this
application
meets
the
criteria
for
rezone
and
cup,
just
because
we
see
similar
zones
and
single-family
homes
within
the
surrounding
roomc
areas.
AA
In
the
commenting
agencies,
they've
confirmed
that
the
proposed
use
will
not
place
an
undue
burden
on
the
transportation
system
and
in
late
correspondence
we
saw
that
achd
also
supported
the
plan.
The
project
complies
with
the
proposed
12
dwelling
units
which
is
allowed
in
that
r1c
zone,
and
it
doesn't
affect
or
adversely
affect
surrounding
areas.
In
fact,
I
think
if
you
just
listened
to
the
applicant,
she
said
that
they
were
even
going
above
and
beyond
and
trying
to
come
up
with
some
different
plans
for
that
application.
That
could
actually
enhance
the
area
so
yeah.
G
Thank
you.
I
don't
know
how
you
knew.
I
said
something,
but
you
must
be
reading
lips
anyway.
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I
am
obviously
in
agreement
here
and
I
think,
as
commissioner
finfrock
said
this,
this
seems
to
to
hit
all
of
the
the
numbers
and
checkpoints
in
terms
of
where
we
are
with
achd
the
the
density
limits,
etc.
G
The
lot
sizes
vary
I'll,
just
leave
it
at
that,
but
they
are
certainly
something
that
works
there
and,
frankly
speaking,
the
goals
that
they
have
in
terms
of
the
affordability
of
this
housing
are
very
commendable.
I
think
we
need
to
see
more
developments
coming
in
showing
this
kind,
this
level
of
responsibility
for
sound
and
stable
growth
within
the
valley,
while
making
sure
that
boiseans
can
afford
to
live
here.
Thank
you.
K
K
So
I
have
a
little
bit
of
tr
and
by
the
way,
it's
something
that
that
we
have
no
way
of
showing
on
the
record
is
true
right.
We
we
don't
know,
whereas
all
the
other
many
of
the
other
criteria
listed
on
page
2-39
of
the
comp
plan
under
goal,
nac
9,
which
I
think
carla
you
correctly
cite
it
talks
about.
You
know
diversity
of
size
and
type
and
access
to
housing,
programs
and
non-traditional
housing-
and
you
know
all
this
other
stuff,
but
it
doesn't
clearly
talk
about
this
at
an
absolute
you
know,
percent
level.
K
So
that's
just
my
two
cents
as
this
thing
moves
down
the
road,
but
I
really
like
the
project
and
I'd
like
to
thank
both
the
folks
from
the
application.
P
P
I
Great
okay,
seeing
no
further
discussion,
we
have
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
for
car
20-12
and
suv.
20-45
and
approval
of
pud
20-38.
Will
the
clerk?
Please
call
the
vote
stead
all
right.
J
I
Okay,
moving
on
to
item
number
six,
this
is
pd
20-41
and
sos
20-29
for
leap
charities,
I'm
at
4400,
west
half
street
a
conditional
use
permit
for
mixed-use
development,
and
we
will
hear
first
from
miss
womack.
I
AB
The
next
item
on
tonight's
agenda
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
mixed-use
development,
comprised
of
a
church
and
two
single-family
homes
on
acres
at
4400,
taft
street
and
r1as
single-family
residential
with
sycamore
overlay
zone.
A
waiver
to
construct
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk
as
part
of
a
minor
land
division
is
also
included.
AB
AB
The
pud
includes
reduced
lot
sizes
of
241
square
feet
and
reduced
flat
widths
of
66
feet,
rather
than
the
required
20
000
square
feet,
and
a
hundred
foot
wide
lot
widths
of
the
r1a
zone
also
included,
are
reduced.
Setbacks
for
the
church
parking
interior
to
the
development
in
front
of
the
single
family
homes
shared
driveway.
AB
It's
important
to
note
the
project
is
within
the
sycamore
overlay
district.
The
purpose
of
this
district
is
to
preserve
and
encourage
land
use
development
that
is
consistent
with
the
semi-rural
agricultural
character
and
lifestyle
of
the
sycamore
neighborhoods,
while
promoting
the
public
health
safety
and
general
warfare
welfare
of
the
present
and
future
residents
of
the
neighborhood
in
boise
city,
lots
fronting
on
the
taft
street
are
exempt
from
the
setback
standards
of
the
overlay
minimum
lot
size
requirements
of
the
overlay
are
only
applicable
in
determining
the
allowed
agricultural
uses
on
the
property.
AB
AB
The
planning
team
is
in
support
of
this
request,
as
the
property
has
an
existing
open
air
irrigation
dish,
two
large
trees
and
an
ada
accessible
ramp.
The
closest
street
improvements
on
this
side
of
taft
are
approximately
520
feet
to
the
east
and
312
feet
to
the
west.
A
more
holistic
approach
for
coordinating
street
improvements
along
this
section
of
the
street
is
required
in
conclusion,
with
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval,
the
project
complies
with
the
standards
of
approval
and,
as
such,
we're
recommending
approval
of
the
pud
and
waiver.
Thank
you.
I
Z
Z
Okay,
great,
you
said
10
minutes.
Z
Okay
and
as
a
part
of
our
application
team,
I'm
going
to
ask
if
it's
okay,
joe
banker,
to
join
as
well.
This
is
a
unique
partnership
between
the
leap
and
the
church.
F
Z
I'll
try
to
save
a
couple
minutes
right
at
the
tail
end
here
but
good
evening,
members
of
the
planning
and
zoning
commission,
thanks
for
your
consideration
of
pud
2041
and
sos
2029
like
I've,
been
introduced
before
I'm
bart
cochran,
I'm
the
founder
and
executive
director
of
the
applicant
leap
charities
inc.
We
also
go
by
leap.
Z
Housing
solutions
is
our
doing
business
as
so,
if
you
see
that
elsewhere
in
the
application
leaps,
a
non-profit
organization
focused
on
the
creation
and
preservation
of
housing
for
low-income
households
in
the
treasure
valley,
my
backgrounds,
as
a
for
for-profit
real
estate
practitioner
turned
social
entrepreneur.
After
confronting
too
many
people
unable
to
access
secure,
safe
housing,
we're
excited
to
bring
you
today
this
application
for
the
taft
street
homes
project
in
partnership
with
the
collister
united
methodist
church
community.
Z
Z
Leap
sees
itself
as
a
really
really
long-term
neighbor.
So
it's
important
that
a
project
looks
like
this
is
a
good
fit
in
the
neighborhood.
So
I
personally
live
both
in
the
collister
neighborhood
and
in
the
sycamore
overlay
very
near
the
site,
just
around
the
corner.
In
fact,
through
careful
consideration
and
feedback,
we
decided
to
move
this
project
forward
under
the
current
very
low
density
of
r1a,
which
is
just
two
units
per
acre
despite
being
adjacent
to
a
higher
density
use.
Therefore,
a
zoning
change
is
not
being
requested
with
this
application,
so
no
zone
change.
Z
We
believe
this
project
represents
the
spirit
of
the
neighborhood
through
the
inclusion
of
shade
and
fruit
trees
raised
garden
beds,
on-site
parking,
low
water
and
patios
and
and
the
prop
the
project
itself
as
designed,
meets
density,
height,
setbacks,
parking,
shared
driveway
requirements
and
fire
compliance.
Z
This
project
will
add
two
high
quality
three
to
four
bedroom
homes
with
garages
and
rented
affordably.
In
addition
to
this
application
being
designed
to
meet
the
existing
requirements
under
the
r1a
zone,
elipe
invested
a
significant
amount
of
time
in
the
community
during
the
process,
so
partnering
with
the
community
is,
is
like
in
our
dna
so
better.
Yet
it's
in
our
name,
so
leap
stands
for
love,
empowerment
and
partnership.
Z
We
leap
along
with
some
folks
from
the
church
visited
neighbors
in
person.
We
socially
distanced
and
wore
masks,
of
course,
to
get
feedback
and
make
sure
that
the
letters
were
received.
Overall,
we
we
got
very
positive
feedback
from
neighbors.
We
hosted
a
neighborhood
meeting
over
zoom.
We
answered
some
really
great
questions
from
neighbors,
some
things
we
hadn't
even
thought
about,
and
we
integrated
that
feedback
into
our
ultimate
design,
and
then
we
received
we've
received
today
23
letters
of
support
for
this
project.
Z
All
of
those
letters
have
been
provided
in
our
correspondence
to
the
commission,
but
those
letters
are
from
neighbors
and
also
church
congregants,
who
we
believe
are
stakeholders
in
this
project,
as
it
is
the
church
that
they
attend.
So
it's
it's
that
feedback
from
personal
meetings,
neighborhood
meeting
the
letters
of
support
and
the
city
of
boys
that
gave
us
the
encouragement
to
go
ahead
and
put
ahead,
put
forward
this
application,
and
so
I'm
certain
that
we're
all
aware
that
boise
has
an
affordable
housing
challenge
on
its
hands.
Z
I
think
we
all
know
that
already
making
up
one-third
of
households
in
boise,
low-income
families
are
struggling
to
access
housing
and
rapidly
appreciating
market
and
covet.
19
has
only
compounded
that
issue.
Z
One
of
the
highlighting
factors
brought
to
our
attention
by
housing
and
community
development
is
that,
in
addition
to
the
fact
that
the
project
adds
new
units
of
affordable
housing,
it's
a
unique
partnership
and
if
we
can
inspire
other
church
communities
or
landowners
to
do
the
same,
we
can
really
make
a
dent
in
the
overall
community
need.
Z
We
think
this
project's
a
win
for
everyone.
It
complies
by
meeting
the
existing
zoning
requirements.
It
provides
essential
housing
in
to
meet
this
overwhelming
need,
that's
been
compounded
by
covid19.
It
inspires
churches
and
other
non-traditional
partners
to
be
part
of
the
solution.
Z
It
provides
dignifying
housing
for
low-income
families
that
is
proximate
to
essential
services,
and
it's
local.
This
is
like
the
true
ground-up
solution.
The
church,
a
hundred-year-old
neighbor,
got
the
ball
rolling
by
asking
a
question:
how
can
they
love
their
neighbors
and
the
answer
they
came
up
with
was
that
housing
was
how
they
could
do
it,
and
so,
in
summary,
we
offer
this
taft
homes
project
up
for
consideration,
a
project
that
meets
the
city's
requirements
has
been
provided
over
23
letters
of
support
from
neighbors
and
congregants
is
a
recipient
of
city
of
boise
funding.
Z
It's
consistent
with
six
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
It
advances
the
vision
to
create
the
a
city
for
everyone
and
finally,
it's
supported
by
city
staff.
So
I
thank
you
today
for
your
consideration
of
these
applications
on
behalf
of
the
church
leap
and
the
future
residents
of
these
homes.
So
we
urge
you
to
approve
the
request
with
that.
Hopefully,
I've
saved
a
couple
of
minutes
here.
Z
I
want
to
yield
the
rest
of
my
time
to
joe
banker
just
to
share
a
little
bit
about
the
inspiration
behind
this
project
in
this
unique
partnership.
AC
My
name
is
joseph
bankerd
b-a-n-k-a-r-d.
I
live
at
4058
north
hawthorne
way,
boise,
idaho
83703,
and
for
those
that
know
that
area
I
am,
I
live
in
the
sycamore
overlay.
I
live
very
close
to
the
church.
I've
been
the
pastor
for
about
five
years.
The
church
has
been
united,
methodist
church
since
1913
george
collister
donated
the
land.
When
I
took
over,
we
had
this
lot
behind
our
parking
lot.
That
is
filled
with
goat
heads
and
weeds,
and
I
thought
what
a
great
asset,
what
can
we
do
with
it?
AC
AC
But
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
be
a
property
manager
and
I
don't
know
how
to
build
houses.
So
we
immediately
started
looking
for
partners
and
I
met
with
bart,
and
we
talked
with
leap
and
just
felt
like
this
was
the
best
option
we
we
fell
in
love
with
this
project.
Our
church
congregation
took
a
vote.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
guys
attend
churches,
but
it's
hard
to
get
approval
for
just
about
anything
like
change.
The
paint
color
and
we
had
almost
unanimous
support
to
use
this
lot
for
housing.
AC
The
church
is
behind
it.
We
really
feel
like
it
meets
an
incredible
community
need
and
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
to
be
the
property
managers
or
the
developers
was
music
to
my
ears,
so
partnering
with
leap
has
been
a
great
opportunity
for
us,
and
so
that's
sort
of
how
this
came
about
a
lot
of
time,
a
lot
of
thought
and
a
lot
of
prayer.
AC
I
You,
mr
vancard
great,
so
we'll
next
move
on
to
see
if
we
have
anybody
present
from
the
northwest
neighborhood
association
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this
project
as
a
representative
of
the
neighborhood.
A
Madam
chair,
I
believe
it's
collistor.
I
Thank
you
caused
your
neighborhood
anybody
present.
I
would
like
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
neighborhood
tonight.
I
Okay,
oh,
we
do
have
a
hand.
Oh
I'm
looking
for
the
designated
neighborhood
representative
for
the
neighborhood
association
at
this
point,
so
somebody
that
is
with
the
name
with
the
college
for
neighborhood
association.
It
looks
like
we've
whittled
it
down
to
one
hand:
please
go
ahead.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
also
have
10
up
to
10
minutes.
Q
I'm
sorry
this
is
wren
corbett.
I
had
registered
to
submit
comments.
I'm
not
affiliated
with
the
the
neighborhood
that
group
that
you're
referring
to.
I
Okay,
thank
you
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
moment.
So
seeing
nobody
then
from
the
neighborhood
we
will
move
on
to
questions
from
the
commission
for
staff
or
the
applicant.
F
AB
AB
AB
G
Following
up
to
commissioner
morris
question,
and
I'm
I'm
sorry,
I'm
a
little
bit
slower
than
everybody
else
here.
So
I'm
having
a
little
so
in
terms
of
achd,
saying
one
thing:
staff
saying
the
other
and
then
you
got
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
in
between
who
has
the
final
say
here.
AB
Madam
chair
commissioners,
the
requirements
are
triggered
by
the
minor
land
division.
Section
of
code
of
the
zoning
code
requires
those
improvements
and,
as
the
land
use
authority,
we
have
the
power
to
determine
if
they
meet
the
requirements
for
a
waiver
or
if
we
continue
to
require
those
improvements.
I
Okay,
so
now
we
will
move
to
the
public
testimony
if
you
are
here
to
testify
on
this
item,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand
and
we'll
just
start
working
our
way
down
the
list.
We
can.
AD
Good
evening
my
name
is
charlie
andre.
I
live
at
4405,
west
catalpa
drive
in
boise,
boise,
idaho,
83703,
I'm
a
senior
at
boise
high
school
and
I've
had
more
than
three
years
of
experience,
volunteering
in
communities
that
rely
on
affordable
housing.
AD
AD
I
H
Michael
witry
w-I-t-r-y
address
is
3749
south
geckler
number
70.,
I'm
a
member
of
the
collister
umc
board
of
directors.
It
is
an
essential
element
of
our
religious
faith
that
when
we
have
more
than
we
need,
we
share
it
with
the
community.
We
have
more
land
than
we
need.
It's
not
being
used
and
our
church
board
of
directors
and
our
leadership
team
believes
that
the
best
way
for
us
to
share
this
land
with
the
community
is
to
construct
these
two
affordable
housing
units.
H
We
chose
this
small
scale
project
because
we
believe
that
it's
appropriate
for
the
amount
of
land
that
we
have
and
that
it
fits
in
well
with
the
collister
community.
The
vast
majority
of
our
members
live
in
the
collister
community
and
they
want
this
project
to
be
a
successful
project,
because
so
many
of
us
are
in
collister,
we'll
be
in
an
unusually
good
position
to
monitor
this
developing
project
and
ensure
that
it's
meeting
the
needs
of
our
community
most
of
our
members
live
there
and
we'll
be
passing
by
this
house
all
the
time.
H
Virtually
all
of
us
will
be
there
at
least
once
a
week,
and
because
this,
because
these
two
buildings
will
be
right
next
to
our
church
building,
we
are
extremely
committed
to
ensuring
that
the
people
who
will
be
living
here
will
be
good
neighbors
for
everyone
who
lives
in
collister.
In
conclusion,
I
urge
you
to
approve
this
this
petition.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
mr
whitrie.
Next
we'll
move
to
it's
on
my
screen
as
m
seha
and
then
joshua
and
kim
crone.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
three
minutes
and
say:
hi.
AE
AE
I
actually
sit
on
the
collister
neighborhood
association
board
hello.
However,
this
item
was
not
an
item
of
discussion,
so
I
apologize
that
the
neighborhood
association
did
not
provide
comment,
but
I
am
providing
comment
as
a
resident
a
long
time
resident
of
the
collister
neighborhood.
AE
I
have
lived
in
the
neighborhood
for
over
16
years
and
as
someone
who
is
an
avid
supporter
of
affordable
housing
across
our
city,
I
am
thrilled
to
hear
about
this
proposal.
I
am
in
support
of
the
proposal.
I
do
just
have
one
comment
regarding
curb
gutter
and
sidewalks.
AE
As
someone
who
runs
throughout
the
neighborhood
taft
is
in
need
of
a
sidewalk
from
sycamore
east
to
36th
street,
and
I'm
hoping
that
in
coming
years,
that
will
become
a
reality
in
large
part
just
for
safety
for
kids
who
walk
that
street
to
and
from
school.
So
with
that,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
comment.
I
I
I
see
you,
though.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
three
minutes
for
kim
and
josh
and
if
there's
two
of
you,
you
can
go
one
at
a
time
with
name
and
address
and
then
you're
three
minutes.
AF
Okay,
my
name
is
kim,
and
this
is
my
husband
josh
and
we
live
at
4391
west,
plum
street
we're
in
the
duplex
directly
across
the
street
from
the
church
I
was
born
and
raised
in
boise
and
had
always
planned
on.
You
know
I
wanted
to
raise
a
family
here
in
2012
I
was
able
to
rent
a
one-bedroom
apartment
downtown
for
like
399
a
month
and
now,
where
we're
at
it's
a
two-bedroom
duplex
for
1100.
I
know
that
you
guys
are
all
familiar
with
those
numbers
jumping
in
2016.
AF
We
pre-qualified
for
a
loan
and
put
an
offer
in
on
a
house
and
were
immediately
outbid
by
a
bunch
of
people
and
then
just
like
immediately
after
that
we
were
priced
out
of
the
housing
market
and
just
would
have
had
no
hope
of
getting
into
a
house.
My
family
has
lived
in
this
area
of
town
for
25
years
and
yeah.
AF
We've
just
always
wanted
to
stay
in
this
area,
and
I
know
people
tend
to
be
hesitant
about
low-income
housing
coming
into
their
neighborhoods,
but
just
a
few
years
ago
I
feel
like
we
would
not
have
been
even
considered
low
income.
It's
a
very
like
wide
range
of
numbers
now
and
a
lot
of
low
income.
What's
considered
low
income,
now
people
with
really
good
credit
and
rental
history
and
employment,
history
just
trying
to
find
an
affordable
place
to
live
so
yeah.
AF
We're
just
really
grateful
that
the
city
so
far
has
supported
leap
in
the
projects
that
they
have
done,
because
we
think
that
it
could
just
be
so
helpful
for
so
many
families.
We
have
two
kids
and
a
third
one
on
the
way.
So
just
being
able
to
get
into
a
house
would
just
be
amazing.
I
AF
I
Okay,
I'm
sorry
the
names
are
going
away
when
the
video
starts
so
sir
and
ma'am
in
the
screen.
You
guys
are
up
next,
please
start
with
your
name:
there,
ann
and
sean.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
You
can
take
the
time
individually.
Also,
if
you'd
like
to.
Y
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
us
to
speak.
My
name
is
sean.
I
live
at
sean
crobay.
I
live
at
3122,
north
sycamore
drive
and
I
am
anne
and
I
are
butted
up
right
next
to
the
one
house
on
the
on
the
west
side,
so
they
will
be
our
neighbors
and
we
have
a
30-foot
setback.
Y
I
noticed
they're
going
to
only
have
a
10-foot
setback
from
our
property
line
and
you
know.
Oh
I've
listened
to
all
the
shares.
The
father
pastor
joe's
a
great
guy.
I
know
him
and
bart
I
just
had.
I
have
talked
with
him
a
lot
and
they're
wonderful,
neighbors,
they're,
a
fantastic
idea
of
trying
to
help
people
and
coming
from
a
position
of
love
and
giving,
and
it's
a
wonderful
idea,
the
problem.
Y
Although
it's
a
wonderful
thought,
it's
not
part
of
the
sycamore,
the
caulister
neighborhood,
it's
not
in
keeping
with
dr
collister
wanted
when
he
donated
all
this
land
and
the
city
when
they
annexed
us,
they
promised
to
keep
it.
You
know
the
way
it
is
large
lots,
low
density.
Y
So
yes,
there's
a
huge
problem
for
low
income
housing
stuff,
but
that
that
wasn't
the
deal
when
boise
annexed
us
to
keep
this.
What
it
is-
and
I
feel
like
just
like
that
other
property,
where
they
have
the
12
units,
I
think
another
place.
Yes
call
the
methodist
church
has
this
land
they
want
to
use
it.
They
want
to
give
it
away,
that's
wonderful,
but
I
I
I
would
encourage
them
to
find
a
different
use.
I
know
they
prayed
for
years.
They
all
talked
stuff
and
as
a
congregation
they
have.
Y
They
have
a
right
to
to
want
to
do
something,
but
it
to
me
it
does
not
fit
with
the
with
the
sycamore
overlay
and
the
other
thing
is.
I
was
trying
to
understand:
there's
a
rectory
church
and
they're
using
the
rectory
as
a
commercial
business
actually
by
counseling
there.
Y
So
if
you
count
the
rectory
as
a
house
which
it
really
is,
how
can
you
have
two
more
houses
put
on
there
for
a
total
of
three
when
we're
only
allowed
two
houses
and
actually
we're
only
allowed
a
house
and
a
granny
flat
so
now
you're
having
three
full-size
houses
on
a
property,
that's
zoned
for
one
house
and
a
granny
flat.
Y
The
other
problem
is
going
to
be
the
parking
and-
and
you
know
I
mean
to
be
honest-
to
have
two
more
families
there.
The
impact
on
us
noise,
wise
is,
is
obvious.
You
know
we
that
30
foot
setback
area
we've
used
that
to
build
a
little.
You
know,
that's
our
little
pond
meditation
water
feature
area.
D
I
AG
AG
Okay
and
ruar
I
live
at
3122,
north
sycamore
drive.
What
he
was
going
to
say
is
we
have
a
little
meditative
area
there.
Next
to
the
there's,
we
have
a
canal
there
right
next
to
the
fence
and
they'll
be
ten
feet
on
the
other
side
at
this,
their
house
would
start
so
it
will.
Yes,
it
would
have
to
impact
us
from
the
noise
we
were.
AG
We
were
worried
about
the
parking
it's
a
very
busy
church
every
day
of
the
week,
because
as
a
counseling
center,
they
have
two
congregations
on
sunday,
the
one
there's
one
in
the
morning
and
then
a
refugee
one
and
later
in
the
afternoon.
So
it's
just
it's
non-stop
noise
and
traffic,
and
even
during
the
week
they
have,
of
course
aaa
meetings
and
now
and
on
whatever
it's
a
busy
place.
So
somebody's
going.
D
AG
Living
right
there,
where
all
the
cars
are
back
and
forth,
we
already
have
put
up-
I
mean
we
knew
that
was
happening
when
we
moved
in
the
the
noise,
but
we
did
not
ever
think
the
enemy
would
want
to
live
back
there.
Also,
oh,
we
were
a
little
worried
about.
They
kept
our
cutting
back
and
only
have
a
35
or
so
parking
places.
I
don't
really
know
if
that's
enough
for
that
church.
AG
AG
I
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
next,
we'll
hear
from
mark
field,
and
please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
V
We
have
a
legal
easement
with
the
church
that
was
signed
in
1989
and
is
recorded
on
the
west.
What
the
achd
specific
conditions
of
approval
describe
us
50
feet,
west
of
silver
street.
The
achd
requires
our
driveway
to
be
closed
as
a
condition
of
approval
of
this
project.
The
sidewalks
curbs
gutters,
however,
are
nowhere
mentioned
yeah.
V
So
nowhere
in
the
analysis
of
this
recommendation
of
approval
by
city
planning
and
zoning
doesn't
mention
our
legal
and
egress
and
in
ingress
and
egress
to
the
property.
The
fact
is
that
the
only
possible
vehicle
access
for
our
adu,
where
my
elderly
mother-in-law
lives
and
my
shop
is,
is
through
that
easement.
V
So
we
will
of
course
defend
it
legally.
If
we
have
to
that,
should
become
necessary
beyond
our
particular
situation.
We
want
to
acknowledge
the
church's
noble
intent,
and
I
will
share
that.
I
have
been
a
builder
for
40
years
and
have
helped
build
multiple
habitat
humanity,
homes
and
done
supervision
on
them
as
well.
V
Now,
when
you
look
at
the
legend
of
land
use,
the
planning
and
zoning
wants
to
change
that
along
tap
from
r1as
to
r1c
now
r1cs.
They
only
want
to
allow
four
instead
of
eight
units
along
tapped.
Now,
it's
funny
because
twice
in
the
past,
the
city
of
boise
has
denied
the
exact
same
zone
change
now
now,
all
of
a
sudden.
V
For
some
reason
you
know
we
get
to
we
get
to
this
date.
They
want
to
do
it
again.
So
I
think
when
the
neighborhood
was
annexed
into
the
boise
city
in
1974,
it
was
with
the
provision
that
remain
r1a.
This
was
intended
to
protect
the
preservation
of
large
lots
and
the
character
of
the
sycamore
neighborhood.
The
kolster
united
methodist
church
is
within
the
sycamore
plan,
and
the
overlay
is.
I
Thank
you,
sir.
That's
the
end
of
the
three
minutes,
we'll
next
move
to
ryan
corbell
and
then
charlie
andre,
who
has
somebody
else
to
speak,
and
then.
Lastly,
it
looks
like
lark
corbell
right
and
please
start
with
your
name
and
address
you'll,
have
three
minutes.
Q
Good
evening
my
name
is
ren
corbay.
I
am
part
owner
of
the
property
at
3122
north
sycamore
good
evening,
madam
chairman
and
commissioners,
this
property
joins
the
northwest
corner
of
the
calister
methodist
church
property.
My
brother,
whom
from
whom
you
just
heard
sean,
resides
here
our
mother
until
last
spring,
and
I
visit
often
and
plan
to
retire
and
move
here
to
this
property.
Q
I
deeply
respect
the
desire
of
the
church
members
to
find
ways
to
use
their
resources
to
address
homelessness.
I
chair
the
homeless,
shelter
project
that
my
own
fellowship
maintains
each
winter.
Yet
I
strongly
request
that
this
project
be
rejected
for
the
following
reasons:
one.
While
the
proposal
claims
that
the
properties
in
the
neighborhood
will
not
be
adversely
affected,
I
believe
that
the
infill
of
two
three-bedroom
homes
adding
parking
for
nominally
two
vehicles
each
but
probably
three-
will
overtake
the
existing
church
parking
lot,
which
supports
the
church
and
the
regular
services
that
are
housed
there.
Q
I
believe
this
reconfiguration
will
result
in
tighter
spaces,
less
turnaround,
reduced
setbacks
and
more
congestion,
all
of
which
will
result
in
vehicles
being
forced
to
park
on
their
neighborhood
streets,
because
taft
is
not
wide
enough
with
the
narrow
roadway,
the
trees,
the
irrigation
canal
and
perhaps
the
sidewalk
that
an
earlier
commenter
requested.
This
means
that
parking
will
move
to
sycamore
hawthorne,
north
silver
and
west
plum
streets
number
two:
the
addition
of
two
homes
to
the
one
acre
property,
which
already
houses
two
structures,
is
incompatible
with
the
original
sycamore
plan.
Yes,
there
is
underutilized
space
currently.
Q
And
I
heard
this
evening-
I
heard
the
commenters
joseph
bankert
or
bart
cochran
mentioned
that
they
had
looked
at
ways
to
perhaps
have
a
community
garden.
I
would
strongly
encourage
that
that
you
know
that
that
be
considered
again.
This
is
an
agricultural
neighborhood
number
three,
my
neighbors
to
the
south
mark
field
that
who,
from
whom
you
just
heard,
have
an
easement
for
ingress
and
egress
along
the
church
property.
Q
This
proposal
requires
that
their
legally
granted
easement
be
removed,
something
which
should
not
be
allowed
to
happen.
It's
interesting
or
it's
curious
how
this
proposal
got
this
far
without
that
being
considered.
So,
in
conclusion,
thank
you
for
listening.
I
hope
you
take
my
comments
into
consideration
in
voting
to
reject
this
plan.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
Thank
you,
mr
corby.
Next
we'll
hear
from
charlie
andre
and
the
other
person
she's
representing.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
W
W
We
are
in
the
overlay
itself.
We
support
this
project
with
the
seven
of
my
neighbors.
A
hundred
percent.
The
taft
home
project
will
be
part
of
the
beautiful
story
that
boise
is
riding
to
provide
affordable
homes
in
our
community
100
behind
it.
I
look
forward
to
you
passing
this
quest.
I
Thank
you,
mr
johnson
next,
and
I
think
lastly,
we'll
hear
from
ms
corby.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
C
Hi,
my
name
is
lark
corvae,
I'm
here,
because
I
am
also
part
owner
of
3122
north
sycamore.
We
directly
border
the
proposed
new
homes,
and
I
want
to
say
I
also
the
reason
I'm
part
owner
is
that
several
siblings
own,
that
property
and
our
plan
is
to
be
able
to
age
in
place
over
time
when
we
have
get
to
that
place
to
have
an
affordable
group
home.
C
So
we
plan
to
be
long-term,
good
neighbors
for
a
long
time
there
we
support
the
church,
we
love
the
energetic
music
and
the
worship
and
the
intent
and
and
certainly
know
how
difficult,
affordable
housing
is
and
support
boise
city's
overall
plans.
C
My
question
is
whether
this
plan,
as
it
is
today,
cannot
be
improved
for
two
main
reasons
that
yes,
the
traffic.
You
know
all
that
is
there.
But
fundamentally,
this
is
a
rare,
unique,
agriculturally
urban
zoned
area.
There
are
many
places
for
high
density.
We
know
we
need
14
units
per
acre
right,
but
they
this,
where
you
have
the
opportunity
of
animal
husbandry
and
agriculture
in
an
urban
setting,
is
rare,
and
if
you
let
this
encroach,
then
it's
just
going
to
be
the
next
one
and
the
next
one
the
church.
C
I
love
it
right,
affordable,
housing,
that's
what
we're
all
about,
but
you
cannot
just
take
an
easement
from
our
neighbors
to
the
south.
Just
take
it
like
that.
I
don't
understand
that
and
also
the
church
members
have
asked
our
neighbors
to
the
south
if
they
could
have
weddings
in
their
garden
and
our
neighbors
have
kindly
agreed.
C
I
would
like
to
know
in
terms
of
creative
usage,
why
the
church
can't
have
their
own
beautiful
space
that
could
be
used
by
the
community,
including
their
own
congregants,
for
weddings
and
other
community
gatherings,
including
I
heard
earlier
that
you
had
considered
a
garden,
the
garden
that
our
neighbors
produce.
They
feed
all
of
us
all
summer
long.
You
know
it's
it's.
I
don't
think
you
can
discount
the
hunger
needs
and
say
that
two
more
homes
could
really
offset
what
you're
taking
away
from
your
good
neighbors.
C
What
you're,
taking
away
from
the
agriculture
and
animal
husbandry
which
it
was
zoned
for
originally,
and
that
you
cannot
find
another
good
use
that
that
serves
the
interests
and
the
hearts
of
your
community,
perhaps
even
better
than
this
one?
I
think
there
are
more
creative
ways
to
address
this
property
without
walking
into
the
bees
nest
that
you
might.
You
know
we
want
to
support
bees,
but
we
want
them
all
happy
and
living
together
in
this
agriculture
area.
So
I
would
ask
you
to
defer
until
the
legal
questions
of
access
have
even
been
acknowledged
or
considered.
C
I
Thank
you
miss
corby,
so
this
is
the
last
call
for
anybody
that
would
like
to
testify
on
this
item
tonight.
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand
if
you
have
not
participated
already
and
would
like
to
seeing
none.
Z
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
realized
I
didn't
have
my
video
on
earlier.
So
now
you
can
see
me
so
just
from
a
responsive
perspective.
I
think
it's
just.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
that
this
project,
as
stated
in
the
staff
report,
does
meet
the
development
code
and
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
and
not
fitting
it.
Z
It
meets
all
that
meets
the
zoning
requirements
and
and
just
to
be
clear
too
there's
some
mention
of
a
zone
change
and
that
maybe
the
city
is
trying
to
pull
a
fast
one
on
the
neighbors
or
something
like
that.
There
is
no
we're
not
requesting
a
zone
change
we're
all
this
entire
application
exists
under
the
r1a
zone,
so
just
wanna.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
about
that.
Make
sure
that
it's
it's
crystal
clear,
just
a
couple
couple,
just
kind
of
clarifying
items.
Z
Obviously
parking
is
something
that
the
city
would
have
considered
in
the
staff
report.
It
kind
of
spells
that
out
we're
providing
two
off
street
parking
spots
in
garages
for
each
of
those
homes
and
reconfiguring
the
parking
lot
to
meet
all
the
city.
All
the
city
parking
requirements
so
that
that
that,
and
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
as
a
non-issue
when
the
church
has
had
if
there
was
ever
a
need
for
any
overflow
they've
used,
there's
a
good
samaritan.
Overflow
parking
lot
kitty
corner
from
the
church
as
well.
Z
They
have
a
relationship
and
have
done
had
a
pretty
active
parking
sharing
relationship
there,
but
a
standalone
the
site
is
able
to
hold
all
parking,
that's
necessary
or
required
into
the
city.
I
want
to
address
the
easement
question
just
to
be
clear:
the
we
have
absolutely
no
interest
in
removing
or
eliminating
anyone's
access,
so
the
I
think
that's
an
achd
conversation.
Probably
I
did.
Z
I
have
asked
for
and
asked
for
a
copy
of
the
of
this
easement
that
mark
fields
had
had
mentioned
that
exists,
and
I
did
just
get
a
copy
of
it
late
last
week
and
I
have
forwarded
it
on
to
achd,
for
you
know
for
their
to
incorporate
into
their
their
review
of
the
application.
So,
but,
but
just
to
be
clear,
we
don't
have
any
interest
and
we
will
definitely
work
with
the
neighbors
to
make
sure
that
they
can
maintain
that
access
easement.
Z
So
just
want
to
be
clear
about
that
and
the
additional
cars.
I
know
that
was
one
of
the
questions.
Achd
obviously
looked
at
that
and
wasn't
concerned
about
the
additional
cars,
the
additional
traffic
created
by
two
homes,
and
then
I
just
I
know
I
just
I
think
it's.
I
know
that
sometimes
it's
really
more
impactful.
Z
Z
I'm
super
thankful
for
for
everybody
for
for
the
neighbors
that
have
come
out
and
kind
of
exercised,
that
community
muscle,
both
for
and
and
even
those
that
are
against,
but
I
I
want
to
also
just
make
sure
to
point
out
that,
although
they
didn't
get
heard
tonight,
we
did
provide
23
letters
of
support
from
the
neighborhood
and
from
the
church
a
couple
you
know
with
just
my
room
remaining
time.
Z
I
just
wanted
to
add
just
a
a
couple
of
just
snippets
from
those
letters,
because
I
think
they're
pertinent
to
this
conversation,
but
so
many
neighbors
have
shared
with
us.
Here's
a
neighbor
on
catalpa
says
almost
30
she's
lived
here
for
30
years.
She's
watched,
she's,
heard
the
the
arguments
for
and
against,
and
there's
been
lots
of,
promises
of
change
that
have
been
met
with
disappointment,
but
the
she
says
the
taft
homes
project
appears
designed
to
help
at
least
two
families.
We
have
us.
We
have
to
start
somewhere.
Z
Why
not
in
my
neighborhood,
I
say:
go
for
it.
She
says
and
that's
a
real
true.
Yes
in
my
backyard
attitude
of
yeah,
if
we're
gonna
do
this,
let's,
why
not
do
it
in
our
backyard?
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
as
well,
and
I
share
that
sentiment.
Z
The
I
did
want
to
just
point
out
just
from
a
feedback
perspective.
We
do.
I
mentioned
a
lot
about
our
community
engagement
activities.
We
did
actively
knock
on
doors
and
reach
out
to
the
community.
It
wasn't
until
just
recently
that
this
group
on
sycamore,
I
think
it's
as
you
can
tell
it's
two
addresses
a
lot
of
a
sibling
kind
of
co-ownership
together.
It
wasn't
only
until
just
about
a
week
ago,
that
was
that
we
were
able
to
get
or
that
they
they
made
contact
with
us.
Z
They
did
not
attend
the
neighborhood
meeting
and
were
not
did
not
participate
in
any
of
the
early
planning,
and
so
we
do.
We
do
value
collaboration,
and
that
was
our
intent
by
knocking
on
doors
to
make
sure
that
the
neighborhood
was
included,
and
it
wasn't
only
until
just
this
last
week
that
these
conversations
started,
but
I
have
we
have.
Z
We
have
talked
to
most
most
of
the
group
and
spent
a
significant
amount
of
time
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
everyone
understands
what's
going
on
and
find
out
if
there's
any
way
that
we
can
work
together
better
and
the
easement
would
be
a
good
case
in
point
of
that.
So
we
will
we'll
do
everything
we
can
to
keep
that
amusement
in
place.
I
Thank
you,
mr
cochran,
so
this
closes
the
public
portion
of
the
hearing,
and
the
item
is
now
before
the
commission.
Madam.
K
O
K
Chairman
missionary,
so
I
agree
with
both
the
city
and
the
applicant
that
there
is
no
zoning
change
here
and
so
then,
from
a
point
of
view
of
the
zone.
The
question
is:
do
these
two
additional
houses
comply
with
the
r1as
zone
and
I
believe
they
do
for
the
reasons
stated
in
the
staff
report.
I
would
also
point
out
that,
according
to
the
staff
report,
all
the
exterior
setbacks
continue
to
be
met
for
the
zone.
K
K
K
K
And
finally,
as
we
all
know
serving
on
this
commission,
private
easements
and
their
adjudication
are
not
you
know
not
typically
before
us,
I
mean
we
can
consider
them,
and
in
this
case
my
consideration
is,
I
think
it's
all
going
to
work
out
fine,
because
just
looking
at
the
photo
and
looking
at
all
the
houses
and
all
their
access
points,
I
just
don't
see
it.
So,
for
all
those
reasons,
I
I
support
project
six.
I
G
G
Yes,
I'd
like
to
concur
with
commissioner
commissioners
gillespie
and
blanchard-
I
think
you
know
when
you
look
at
this.
It
does
meet
the
code
requirements,
certainly
from
a
density
perspective,
as
spelled
out
in
11-06-0
1.5,
and
it
also
provides
much
needed
housing.
G
J
Just
say:
yeah
thanks
to
bart
and
to
pastor
banker,
this
in
case
you're,
not
steeped
in
the
the
planning
terminology.
This
is
what
is
called
the
jigbee
movement,
which
is
yes
in
god's
backyard,
and
I
hope
that
we
see
a
lot
more
of
this
with
churches
stepping
forward.
There
is
a
ton
of
excess
church
land
out
there,
and
I
think
it
is
admirable
that
pastor
banker
stepped
forward
and
said:
hey.
We
got
to
do
something
with
this
and
that
he
got
led
to
housing.
J
So
again,
I
think
the
staff
report
covered
all
the
legal
issues
in
here
for
us
to
support
this
project,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
hope
we
see
a
lot
more
of
this
kind
of
thing.
O
Chair
yeah,
just
real
quick,
I'm
strongly
in
support
of
the
motion.
I
think
it's
a
great
partnership
and
a
great
project,
and
I
just
wanted
to
speak
real
quickly
to
some
of
the
testimony
regarding
the
sycamore
overlay
and
the
desire
for
this
neighborhood
to
remain
from
an
ag
historically
ag
use
area,
and
I
agree
with
with
that
sentiment.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out,
though,
that
in
this
case
these
houses
are
being
proposed
on
a
vacant
lot.
You
know
we're
not
removing
ag
productive
ag
land
in
order
to
put
in
these
infill
houses.
O
P
Moore
and
just
to
tag
on
to
to
that,
as
well
and
in
the
staff
report,
I
do
want
to
point
out
the
lot
in
regards
to
the
lot
sizes
and
others
and
comments
on
how
they
were
smaller.
P
But
for
the
staff
report,
the
lots
fronting
tap
street
are
exempt
from
both
setback
requirements
and
because
this
isn't
an
agricultural
use,
they're
not
used
the
sizes
aren't
determined
by
that
they're
using
those
kind
of
lot
sizes
to
determine
their
agricultural
dimensioning,
not
necessarily
the
lot
sizes
for
housing
as
well.
So
it
makes
sense
to
me
and
I'm
supporting
the
motion.
I
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
pud,
20-41
and
sos
20-29
by
commissioner
gigglesby
in
a
second
by
commissioner
blanchard.
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
vote,
said
aye.
J
I
Great
before
we
move
on
to
item
seven
we're
going
to
take
a
quick
break
and
we'll
be
back
at
about
7
58.
A
Madam
chair,
before
we
break,
I
failed
to
mention
that
this
is
nicolette's
last
night
with
us,
so
that
was
her
swan
song
and
her
last
night
with
us
she's
moving
to
the
east
coast.
Today
is
her
last
day.
She
you
waited
till
today
to
be
here
last
day,
so.
I
D
D
D
AH
I
Okay,
thank
you
and
welcome
back.
We
are
on
to
our
last
item,
which
is
item
number
seven.
This
is
cva
20-48
for
barclay
properties
at
10501,
west
shields
avenue,
and
it's
a
variance
for
an
existing
six
foot
tall
fence
in
the
front
setback
and
we'll
start
with
staff.
K
K
A
I
Okay,
I'm
going
to
just
start
again
welcome
back
we're
moving
on
to
item
seven.
This
is
cva2048
for
berkeley
properties,
we'll
start
with
staff.
Please
go
ahead.
Miss
rain.
AI
AI
These
requirements
are
mainly
intended
to
maintain
clear
sight
and
vision
for
vehicles
and
pedestrian
safety,
as
well
as
for
promoting
a
unified
streetscape.
The
west
property
line
sits
50
feet
back
from
the
right-of-way
parallel
to
horseshoe
bend
road,
a
very
busy
collector
due
to
the
distance
between
the
property
line
and
the
right-of-way.
The
fence
does
not
encroach
into
any
clear
vision
triangles,
nor
does
it
visually
detract
from
the
frontage
along
horseshoe
bend
further.
While
shields
ave
has
a
typical
residential
speed
limit
of
20
miles
per
hour.
Horseshoe
bend
road
has
a
speed
limit
of
40..
AI
The
planning
team
finds
that
there
is
an
exceptional
circumstance
with
the
property
due
to
proximity
to
a
road
with
high
volumes
of
fast-moving
traffic.
Further,
the
property
sits
at
the
edge
of
a
residential
neighborhood,
directly
adjacent
to
a
large
commercial
area.
Maintaining
the
fence
along
the
west
property
line
will
not
cause
any
public
safety
issues
and
will
help
to
limit
the
impacts
of
the
roadway
and
contribute
to
a
sense
of
security
for
the
owners.
AI
The
exceptional
circumstance
does
not
apply
to
the
retention
of
the
six-foot
fence
in
the
rest
of
the
front.
Setback
buffering
is
not
required
as
shields
ave
as
a
quiet
local
street.
Further
the
fence
may
negatively
impact
surrounding
properties,
as
it
encroaches
into
the
clear
vision
triangles
where
the
property
takes
access
with
vehicles
from
horseshoe
bend,
transitioning
from
a
much
higher
speed,
it's
imperative
to
keep
clear
visibility
for
vehicles
exiting
the
property.
AI
AI
In
conclusion,
the
applicant's
request
to
maintain
a
six
foot
tall
fence
along
the
west
property
line
meets
the
approval
criteria
for
a
variance
there's
an
exceptional
circumstance
associated
with
the
high
traffic
volumes
of
horseshoe
bend
road
and
the
higher
impact
uses
adjacent
to
the
property.
As
such,
the
planning
team
recommends
approval
of
the
application
request
to
maintain
the
six
foot
tall
fence
along
the
west
property
line.
AI
The
planning
team
finds
there
to
be
no
hardship
or
exceptional
circumstance
to
warrant
the
maintenance
of
the
six
foot
two
offense
within
the
remainder
of
this
front
setback.
Therefore,
the
request
does
not
meet
the
approval.
Criteria
for
variance
staff
recommends
denial
to
keep
a
six
foot
tall
fence
in
the
front
setback
along
the
north
and
east
line.
I
I
I
We're
gonna
great
we've
got
you
promoted
now,
so
once
you
unmute,
please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
we'll
start
with
10
minutes.
T
I
I
don't
need
to
so
the
this
is
janet
totilian
and
I'm
the
owner
of
10501
west
shields,
avenue,
boise,
idaho,
83714,.
T
And
we
applied
for
this
variance
for
the
fence.
Let
me
give
you
a
little
history
about
it.
When
we
first
bought
this
property,
we
put
up
the
six
foot
fence
on
the
bearer
lot.
I
went
to
the
city
of
boise,
I
talked
to
perry
payne,
and
he
was,
I
think
in
planning
and
zoning,
maybe
permitting
I'm
not
sure
what
his
title
was,
and
he
said
we
did
not
need
a
permit
for
our
fence.
T
So
from
there
we
applied
for
a
building
permit
to
build
our
home,
which
we
did
and
we
passed,
inspection
and
removing
the
fence
was
not
the
condition
of
the
permit.
T
We
don't
have
a
backyard
and
we're
using
the
west
side
of
the
yard
as
a
what
would
be
a
backyard
and
miss
rain
did
note
that
on
her
reasoning
for
approving
the
west
side,
six
foot
fence.
So
I
am
using
her
explanation
for
keeping
the
west
side
six
foot
fence
as
also
the
same
reasoning
for
keeping
the
north
side
six
foot
fence
to
the
to
the
driveway.
T
We
have
no
problem
lowering
that
to
either
keeping
it
a
four
foot
chain,
link
fence
or
three
foot
wood
fence,
so
that
that
part
of
the
property
is
is
is
fine
with
us.
I
think
it
would
look
nice,
but
as
far
as
security
and
as
far
as
privacy
for
our
backyard.
I
T
So
there
is
no
regarding
the
clear
vision:
it's
a
chain-link
fence
and,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
pictures
provided
by
miss
rains,
you
can
see
straight
north
to
south
and
from
west
all
the
way
to
the
house.
There
is
no
obstruction,
you
can
see
all
the
way
around
it
and
there
is
also
a
12
to
15
foot
right
of
way,
achd
right
away
before
you
even
hit
the
street
on
shields.
T
So
there
is
no.
What
do
you
call
that
anything
blocking
your
clear
view
within
that
30
foot
triangle,
clear
vision,
triangle,
there's
nothing
there,
the
neighbors
have
like
10
foot
or
taller
shrubs
in
front
of
their
house.
You
can't
see
their
address.
You
cannot
see
their
house
and
you
cannot
see
the
cars
backing
in
and
out.
T
Our
chain
link
fence
does
not
block
any
kind
of
vision
for
traffic
pedestrians
and
bicyclists
entering
and
leaving
our
driveway.
So
I
ask
that
the
that
you
approve
the
six-foot
fence
on
the
north
west
side
of
the
lot
pertaining
to
what
we
would
like
to
call
our
backyard,
because
we
don't
have
one.
I
Thank
you
so
much
so
next,
we'll
move
on
to
hear
from
the
neighborhood
association
if
they're
present,
this
is
the
northwest
neighborhood
association.
If
somebody's
here
on
behalf
of
the
neighborhood
association,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
I
Okay,
seeing
then,
then
we'll
move
on
to
questions
from
the
commission
for
the
staff
for
the
applicant
commissioner,
madam.
AA
AA
AA
AI
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
yes,
behind
the
mailbox
20
feet
from
where
the
that
last
post
is
on,
both
sides
would
be
the
clear
vision
triangle.
Okay,
can.
T
I
Muffled
we
can
all
try
to
speak
more
loudly
and
if
you
have
a
volume
control,
it's.
K
So
can
we
go
to
the
one
with
the
color
coded
of
the
fence
lines,
the
red,
green
and
yellow
that
one
yeah
there
we
go
so
so
the.
D
K
Red
line
at
the
top
is,
is
basically
what
we're
fussing
about
tonight,
where,
where
is
their
property
line,
and
how
much
in
the
setback
is
that
red
line
is
it
is
that
is
the
is
the
fence
right
now
right
on
their
property
line?.
R
K
Side
of
the
photo
the
house
itself
extends
almost
to
the
edge
of
the
setback
right
so
a
norm.
The
normal
front
setback
matches
that
the
northern
edge
of
the
house
is
that
more
or
less
right.
Do
you
make?
Does
that
make
sense
so
show
us
what
the
setback
would
just
use
the
arrow
and
move
it
for
where
the.
K
AI
According
to
my
map,
the
house
is
at
around
12
feet,
so
the
setback
should
be
around
15.
According
to
my
map
and
measuring.
K
D
F
AI
D
K
AI
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
approximately
10
12
feet.
O
P
P
Follow
up
question
so
for
the
vision
triangle
I
know:
there's
some
restrictions
as
to
what
can
actually
go
in
that,
but
landscaping.
There's
some
mention
that
landscaping
is
acceptable.
Is
there
a
height
restriction
to
landscaping
that
can
go
into
that
vision
triangle
or
anything
like
that?.
AI
U
J
Hi
crystal
welcome,
so
what
we're
talking
about
is
that,
on
that
red
line
there,
typically
on
a
in
a
clear
vision
triangle,
fences
can
be
no
more
than
three
feet
high.
Is
that?
Where
that
we're
asking
here.
AI
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
in
the
front
setback
the
front
20
feet,
fences
are
less,
are
limited
to
four
feet
if
they're
see-through
three
feet,
if
they're
solid
and
then
in
the
clear
vision
triangle,
anything
that
is,
that
would
obstruct
vision,
it
would
be
limited
to
36
inches
or
three
feet.
G
Question
for
the
applicant
actually,
maybe
two
questions.
First.
Is
you
mentioned
that
there
were
areas
along
that
northern
area
that
northern
edge,
where
you
are
amenable
to
reducing
the
fence
height?
Can
you
indicate
those
a
little
better?
I'm
not.
I
mean
yeah.
T
So
from
the
driveway
going
east
we'd
like
to
keep
that
six
foot
it
it
meets,
I'm
sorry
going
west,
it
meets
the
same
requirements
as
the
approved
fence
on
the
west
side.
Now,
from
the
opening
of
the
driveway
going
east
in
front
of
the
house,
we
have
no
problem,
lowering
lowering
that
to
code
height,
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
chain
link
fence
four
feet
or
if
we
decide
to
do
a
four,
a
three
foot,
wood
fence.
T
So
we
have
no
problem
in
front
of
the
house.
We
would
like
to
keep
the
six
foot
fence
from
the
driveway
going
westbound.
There
is
no
obstruction
of
vision
from
going
east
or
west
leaving
our
driveway.
G
T
Oh,
oh
because
the
we
have
a
power
pole
with
our
meter
right
in
the
center
of
that
fence.
Just
maybe
I
think,
a
foot
or
two
maximum
two
feet
away
from
the
fence
and
if
we
lower
that
fence
to
four
foot
or
three
fen,
three
foot
passer
buyers
have
access
to
our
meter,
our
to
turn
off
our
electricity
breaker
box.
T
Everything,
because
when
we
submitted
plans
to
the
city
of
boise,
the
fence
was
up
and
that's
where
the
meter
box
was
put
for
the
house,
because
there's
we're
so
close
to
the
street,
to
put
the
meter
box
on
front
of
the
house
would
have
been
unsightly.
There's
no
room
on
the
site
on
the
east
side
of
the
house
to
do
it
so
because
of
the
shape
of
the
lot
we
were
limited
of
where
we
could
put
the
house-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
this
but
on
the
north.
T
I'm
sorry
is
this:
south,
the
south
east
corner.
We
had
to
actually
give
up
seven
feet
of
the
property,
to
the
ditch
rider
for
access,
so
what
we
would
have
used
back
there.
You
know
our
would
have
been
part
of
our
property
we
had
to
give
up
and
we
couldn't
put
the
house
anywhere
else
because
of
the
setbacks
from
the
west
side,
from
the
street
side
and
from
the
canal
side,
it's
been
on
the
whole
canal.
Side
is
all
commercial,
and
all
of
west
side
is
commercial.
G
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
G
G
AI
Madam
chair
commissioner,
landscaping
outside
of
the
clear
vision
triangle
does
not
have
a
limit.
However,
any
other
type
of
fencing
or
barrier
within
that
first
20
feet
is
required
to
meet
those
three
feet.
Four
feet
limitations.
AI
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
it
is
outside
of
the
clear
vision
triangle,
but
it's
still
within
the
front
setback
and
so
that
whole
area
in
blue
there
is
needs.
This
fences
need
to
be
four
feet
if
they're
see
through
three
feet,
if
they're.
AI
Madam
chair,
commissioner
blanchard
there
is
a
open
zoning
code
violation
currently.
J
So
so
this
is
from
came
from
code
enforcement,
so
somebody
would
have
had
called
correct.
Okay.
Thank
you.
O
O
For
staff-
and
I
I'm
sorry
it's
getting
a
little
bit
later
and
I've
forgotten
now
I
looked
at
the
code
and
there's
no:
is
there
no
differentiation
between
fence
type,
once
you
get
up
to
that
six
foot
height
and
the
reason
I'm
asking
that
question
is
that
it's
a
this
is
an
open
fence.
This
is
a
you
can
see
through
a
chain-link
fence.
So
is
there
any
sort
of
differentiation
between
a
six-foot
privacy
fence
or
solid
fence
as
compared
to
a
six-foot
chain-link
fence
in
the
code.
AI
Madam
chair
commissioner,
point
question
of
clarification:
do
you
mean
in
the
front
setback
or
just
in
general,.
AI
Madam
chair
commissioner
schaefer
once
it's
out
of
the
front
setback
or
the
clear
vision
triangle,
there's
no
differentiation.
It
just
has
a
limit
of
six
feet.
I
Okay,
we'll
move
forward
to
the
sign
up
sheet
and
we
have
one
person
signed
up.
It's
mark
olsen.
We
have
him
here
in
the
chamber.
Please
come
on
up
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
three.
AH
I
AH
My
address
is
one
zero.
Seven
shields
avenue
purchased
the
property
back
in
88..
The
reason
I
don't
own,
that
property
is
for
exactly
everything
they're
discussing
okay,
the
tillians
made
the
decision
to
build
that
property.
The
way
they
did
the
day
that
fence
went
up.
I
was
on
the
phone
to
code
enforcement,
we've
gone
through
five
code
enforcement
officers
and
the
manager
of
the
code
enforcement
tyler
johnson
to
come
out
and
take
care
of
this
very
happy
to
be
here
this
evening.
Let
me
nail
this
down.
AH
AH
AH
Okay,
the
conversations
of
neighbors
have
had
when
they
came
by
walking
by
going
what
is
going
on
over
here
and
don't
worry
we're
working
with
the
city.
Martin
buesta
tells
me
things.
Take
time
be
patient.
I
think
we've
been
pretty
patient
for
the
last
five
years
and
so
my
main
concern
about
it.
City's
nailed
it
on
what
needs
to
be
done.
AH
Six
foot
on
the
west
side,
you
guys
call
it
as
you
want,
but
the
remaining
of
the
barbed
wire
needs
to
come
down.
This
obvious
is
the
front
of
the
property.
So
all
the
way
across
the
north
side
of
the
shields
avenue
needs
to
come
down
the
forefoot.
It's
pretty
simple
simple!
I
mean
you,
you
walk
in
the
city
hall
and
you
pick
up
this
little
piece
of
paper.
It's
got
your
fencing
goods
on
it
2015.
AH
AH
So
we'll
let
you
guys
hammer
that
out
and
yeah,
it's
been
a
learning
experience,
but
that's
what
life
is
all
about
and
I
just
like
to
see
the
gateway
of
shields
avenue
brought
into
a
situation
to
where,
when
we
do
have
leap,
industries
come
down
the
street
and
put
in
a
very
nice,
affordable
housing
project
that,
when
the
people
drive
by
they
don't
ask
what's
going
on
over
here
with
all
the
commercial
vehicles
and
out
there
on
the
west
side
of
the
property
there,
because
there's
more
to
be
discussed
here.
AH
I
And
god
bless
america.
Thank
you,
mr
olsen,
so
that
is
it
for
our
sign
up
sheet.
Is
there
anybody
online
that
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item?
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand
and
seeing
none
then
we'll
move
to
the
rebuttal
from
the
applicant
and
you'll
have
up
to
five
minutes.
T
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
okay,
so
the
barbed
wire
was
up
when
it
was
a
vacant
land
and
when
it
was
under
construction
and
when
we
were
done,
we
did
remove
it.
So
the
risers
were
still
there
only
because
it's
a
hardship
to
go
around
and
cut
them
down.
But
it's
not.
If
that's
an
issue,
we
can
cut
those
parts
down,
but
that
was
during
construction,
not
after
construction
and.
T
Other
than
that,
it's
like,
I
said
before,
the
the
fence
was
up
prior
to
construction,
and
it
was
my
understanding
after
talking
to
perry,
payne,
that
you
didn't
need
a
permit
for
vacant
lot
fence
and
for
construction,
and
then,
when
we
went
for
the
building
permit
of
the
house,
it
was
not
a
condition
to
remove
the
fence,
and
since
then,
we've
been
working
with
architect,
landscape
architect,
you
can
see
we
started
on
the
landscape
in
the
front.
Our
clear
vision
triangle
is
is
clear.
T
I
mean
there's
no,
nothing
causing
any
kind
of
danger
and
the
the
idea
of
okay,
lower
the
fence
to
four
foot
and
then
put
ten
foot
bushes
up
that
you
can't
see
through.
I
think
that
defeats
your
purpose
of
having
a
clear
line
of
vision.
You
can
see
completely
through
our
lot,
we're
not
hiding
anything,
it's
very
safe
but
having
a
six
foot
fence
around
the
perimeter
of
what
would
be
our
backyard.
T
It's
the
corner
lot
it's
up
to
a
busy
street
and,
like
she
said
it's
for
security
reasons,
the
house
was
broken
into
or
tried
to
from
a
pedestrian
walking
by
we've
had
several
encounters
with
the
police,
with
our
neighbors
specifically
mark
olsen,
who
set
fires
all
the
way
around
the
house
on
his
property,
the
trees.
Next
to
our
house
on
the
west
side
he
set
on
fire,
he
set
the
canal
on
fire.
He
set
the
west
side
property
on
fire.
T
He
said
he
was
just
trying
to
burn
the
weeds,
but
that's
not
his
property.
It's
it's
achd
and
the
ditch
riders
and
the
fires
were
set
all
around
my
house,
and
that
is
why
that
is
the
number
one
reason
we
need
a
six-foot
fence
is
for
security
and,
like
I
said
that
the
the
section
from
the
the
driveway
going
westbound
meets
the
same
criteria
that
miss
reigns,
approved
the
west
side
fence
and
there's
no
obstruction.
T
I
N
D
K
K
So
I
think
the
applicant
is
is
trying
to
argue
that
there's
no
difference
between
the
green
section
marked
in
our
packet
and
the
red
section
that
abuts
shields,
and
there
is
a
major
difference
and
it's
the
50
foot
plus
distance
and
that
to
me
is
a
is-
is
a
reason
to
allow
that
this
that
piece
of
the
approval
to
go
forward.
I
just
don't
see
that
reason
on
the
north
side
or
indeed
on
that
little
northeast
corner,
and
I
agree
with
the
staff
report.
K
You
know
it's
clearly
right
on
the
property
line.
It's
unambiguous.
The
code
is
silent
as
to
whether
a
six-foot
chain-link
fence
is
should
be
treated
any
different
from
a
solid
wood
fence.
It's
just
a
six
foot
fence.
K
I
am
not
persuaded
by
the
argument
that
the
security
of
a
what
presumably
can
be
a
locked
and
monitored
electric
meter
is
is
salient
is
important.
I
I
don't
think
it
is.
And
finally
you
know
we
we
have
these
setback
rules
for
a
reason.
You.
K
To
preserve
it's
not
just
clear
sight
triangles,
it's
also
just
to
create
a
certain
character
that
we
want
in
our
in
our
neighborhoods
and
that's
the
way
the
code
is
written
and
unfortunately,
in
this
case
I
agree
with
the
staff
report
that
there's
just
no
reason
to
to
grant
this
variance.
I
Okay,
any
further
discussion,
commissioner
yeah.
P
Somewhere
and
in
addition
to
that,
I
seconded
the
motion
and
just
because
you
know,
there's
some
discussion
about
the
landscaping
but
per
staff
confirmation.
Even
landscaping
is
regulated
in
that
vision
triangle.
You
can't
put
eight
foot
or
really
tall,
bushes
or
shrubs
or
anything
in
that
vision
triangle.
So
even
landscaping,
chain-link
fence,
solid
fence,
everything
is
regulated
in
that
vision,
triangle
itself.
It
doesn't
matter
what
it
is.
G
G
I'm
not
really
seeing
that
security
as
the
issue
there
and
following
on
commissioner
moore's
statement
since
it's
outside
the
the
vision
triangle,
you
can
do
a
planting
that
you
know.
If
you
don't
want
to
monitor
it.
As
commissioner
gillespie
suggests
you
can
put
a
planting
there
that
will
obscure
the
view
of
that
electrical
box
and
meter.
So
I,
though,
based
on
those
two
things,
I
don't
find
any
sort
of
hardship
here
that
would
justify
this.
I
Great
okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
table
as
written
in
the
staff
report,
which
is
approval
to
maintain
existing
six
foot
tall
fence
in
the
front
setback
along
the
west
property
line
and
denial
to
maintain
existing
six
foot
tall
fence
in
the
front
setback
and
clear
vision
triangles
along
the
north
and
west
property
lines.
I
K
I
Great
okay
item
number:
eight
at
pud,
20-39
and
cva
20-52
for
rodney
evans
and
partners
at
3005,
west
mallard
street.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
plane,
residential
development
and
also
suv
20-52
for
vancouver
subdivision
a
preliminary
and
final
pla.
Please
go
ahead!
Mr.
AJ
AJ
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
commission.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
four
attached
town
homes
on
0.28
acres
located
at
3005,
west
milad
street
in
r2
zone.
The
applicant.
The
application
includes
a
variance
for
the
building
to
encroach
into
the
street
side
setback
along
to
shone
street
and
for
the
driveway
access
points
to
encroach
into
the
required
separation
from
the
intersection.
AJ
The
development
includes
the
construction
of
four
attached
town
homes.
Vehicle
access
will
be
provided
along
malad
street
since
shoshone
street
is
a
collector
roadway,
driveway
locations
for
lots.
One
and
two
near
the
intersection
requires
a
variance
since
it
encroaches
into
the
required
50-foot
driveway
separation
from
the
internet.
From
that
intersection,
this
driveway
is
set
back
about
41
feet
from
the
intersection
street
frontages
abutting
this
the
site
along
malad
and
shoshone,
are
are
improved
with
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk
attached.
AJ
AJ
The
site
is
large
enough
to
accommodate
the
four
attached
town
homes
and
the
property
is
within
the
allowed
density
or
the
project
is
within
the
allowed
density
of
the
r2
zone.
The
plan
unit
development
is
requesting
waivers
to
the
dimensional
standards
and
and,
as
proposed,
reduced
interior
setbacks
to
allow
for
the
attached
town
homes
themselves.
AJ
AJ
So
it's
providing
and
meeting
the
exterior
setbacks
required
by
code,
a
waiver
from
the
subdivision,
landscape
buffer
is
all
a
requirement
is
also
requested.
Since
a
20-foot
landscape
buffer
is
required
along
collector
roadways,
a
shoshone
street
being
one.
The
planning
team
supports
this
waiver,
since
only
ten
and
a
half
feet
is
available
between
the
building
and
the
straight
and
the
ride
away.
AJ
The
first
one
is
to
encroach
into
the
encroachment
of
the
driveway
into
the
required
50-foot
access
point
or
access
or
50-foot
separation
from
the
from
the
intersection
you
can
see
here,
so
the
driveway
just
barely
encroaches
about
10
feet
or
so
and
for
the
building
to
encroach
into
the
side
setback.
Normally,
a
15-foot
setback
is
required
and
they're
only
providing
about
10
and
a
half.
AJ
There
is
a
hardship
that
justifies
granting
the
two
variances
the
subject.
Property
is
constrained
by
10
foot,
wide,
idaho
power
easement
along
the
west
property
line.
This
easement
pushes
the
structures
five
feet
to
the
east
and
there
and
also
reduces
the
buildable
build
of
an
envelope
for
the
for
the
subject
property.
AJ
As
such,
the
buildings
now
will
now
encroach
five
feet
into
the
streets
I
set
back
and
it
moves
the
the
driveway
access
closer
to
the
intersection
because
of
that
idaho
power
easement,
the
building
incorporates
design
features,
quality,
materials
and
modulation
being
one
of
them.
The
area
marked
in
red
is
areas
that
are
building
facade
materials
that
will
be
used
or
or
they're
going
to
use
masonry
a
building
facade
to
emphasize
the
base
of
the
building.
AJ
These
these
quality
materials
will
provide
visual
interest
from
to
the
street
facades.
In
addition,
in
addition,
the
applicant
should
create
the
appearance
of
a
clear
base
middle
and
top
through
the
use
of
materials
and
color
changes.
This
will
provide
the
required
design
interest
and
prevent
the
appearance
of
large
blank
or
large
wall
planes.
AJ
As
such,
a
recommended
condition
of
approval
requires
the
applicant
provide
revised
elevations
that
utilize,
colors
and
material
changes
that
distinguish
this
clear
base
middle
and
top
within
the
elevations
shown
prior
to
submittal
to
building
building
permits
with
the
with
the
use
of
the
masonry
they've
got
the
base.
It's
just.
We
want
to
see
a
little
bit
more
material
here
than
just
just
the
horizontal
siding
along
that
street
facade
that's
being
proposed,
and
that's
why
we
have
that
condition.
AJ
So,
in
summary,
the
project
require
the
quadratic
meets
all
the
required
findings
as
per
code
for
the
pud,
the
variance
and
the
sub,
and
the
planning
team
recommends
approval
of
the
planning,
planning,
development
variants
and
subdivision.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
mr
moser.
We'll
next
move
to
the
applicant.
Mr
simple,
please
start
with
your
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
10
minutes.
N
N
As
he
stated
we
are
in
well.
We
are
in
agreement
with
the
all
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report,
first
and
foremost,
and
as
david
stated,
the
project
does
consist
of
four
town
homes
in
you
know
duplex
style
townhomes
to
provide
some
additional
housing.
They
were,
they
will
be
for
sale
products.
N
Each
unit
will
provide
a
two-car
garage,
and
you
know
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
for
a
second
here.
U
N
N
N
Each
unit
will
have
a
two-car
garage
and
then
there
will
be
adequate
space
for
up
to
two
guest
parking
spaces
in
the
driveway
and
outside
the
garage,
so
a
total
of
16
parking
spaces,
basically,
four
for
each
unit.
They
are
three
bedroom
two
and
a
half
bathroom
units
very
similar
in
massing
to
other
properties
in
the
area.
N
N
As
david
stated,
also
shochon
park
is
about
200
feet
away
from
the
project.
Additionally,
it's
about
a
quarter
mile
to
the
west
of
vista
avenue
that
provides
additional.
You
know
transit
options
as
well
as
education
and
employment
and
service
opportunities.
N
Let's
see,
we
do
feel
that
this
is
very
cohesive
to
the
neighborhood
again
it
fits
in.
We
did
have
one
rendering
that
was
submitted,
as
david
stated.
Also.
The
bottom
of
these
would
be
a
masonry
kind
of
water
table
and
we
are
doing
a
there's,
a
shake
within
the
upper
gable
ends
and
then
we'll
look
at
some
variation
in
color
and
materials
on
the
additional
siding
specifically
facing
shochon
street.
N
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
the
the
setback
on
our
west
side,
as
required
by
idaho
power,
there's
a
power
line
that
runs
through
there.
There's
also
a
pole
here
that
the
neighboring
property
to
the
west
there's
service.
That
comes
off
of
that.
We
have
to
maintain
that
pole
per
idaho
power,
so
that
requires
an
11
foot
setback
to
our
building
there,
where
five
feet
would
only
be
required
if
we
didn't
have
to
have
that
set
back
for
idaho
power.
We
are
burying
that
line
other
than
the
service
that
goes
to
the
adjacent
property.
N
But
if
we
had
a
five
foot
typical
setback
in
the
r2,
we
would
exceed
our
setback
on
the
shoshone
street
side.
We
are
exceeding
the
setbacks,
rear
and
front
on
all
units.
For
this
and
again,
we
really
feel
like
this
will
provide
an
additional
housing
option
in
the
area.
There's
a
lot
of
property
around
here
that
looks
like
it
will
eventually
redevelop,
and
there
already
are.
N
You
know,
duplexes
multi-family
in
the
area
that
have
single
car
garages,
so
we
feel
like
this
is
a
step
up
in
the
neighborhood
as
well,
and
I
guess
with
that
I
would
stand
for
questions.
I
Thank
you,
mr
simple.
So
let's
see
this
is
the
vista
neighborhood
association.
If
there's
anybody
online
from
the
vista
neighborhood
association,
please
virtually
raise
your
hand
and
seeing
none.
We
will
next
move
to
questions
from
the
commission
for
staff
or
the
applicant.
K
So,
let's
just
kind
of
quickly
cut
to
the
chase,
so
it
sort
of
complies
with
r2
right
it.
It
meets
everything
except
the
interior
setbacks.
Except
for
this.
This
pretty
big
problem
on
the
on
the
east
side,
where
we're
about
five
feet
short
cutting
into
the
setback
in
this
problem
of
the
location
of
the
driveway.
K
AJ
Madam
chair
commissioners,
that
is
correct.
There's
an
idaho
power
easement
along
the
west
side.
It's
11
feet
that,
basically
they
can't
build
in.
If
they
have
that
wasn't
there,
they
could
maintain
a
five
foot
step
back
there
and
all
of
this
would
prob.
While
this
would
meet
the
police,
it
would
meet
the
street
side
setback
at
that
point,
but
that
easement
pushing
everything
five
feet
to
the
to
the
east
and
into
the
setbacks.
K
N
Madam
chairman,
commissioner
gillespie,
we
have
looked
at
a
couple
different
ways
of
resolving
this.
One
of
the
issues
that
did
come
up
during
the
neighborhood
meeting
and
that
we
always
hear
about
is
parking
and
to
not
have
a
two-car
garage
as
part
of
a
single-family
residence,
because
these
are
single-family
townhomes
becomes
problematic.
We
can't
do
tandem
parking
the
units
right
now
if
we
reduce
them
in
size
too
much
more.
N
It
compromises
the
interior
space
and
we
did
as
much
as
we
could
the
applicant
actually
or
the
the
developer
is
going
to
be
burying
the
portion
of
the
line.
If
we
didn't
bury
the
line,
that's
over
there,
we'd
have
to
be
a
minimum
of
16
feet
from
the
property
line,
so
we're
doing
as
much
as
we
can
to
reduce
that
without
also
then
again,
incurring
more
expense
to
reroute
the
neighbors
utility
service
as
well.
N
We
I'll
go
through
the
floor
plans.
A
little
bit
also
front
hallway
here,
provides
the
stairwell
to
the
second
floor
and
the
hallway
to
the
living
space
in
the
back.
Here's
the
two-car
garage,
again
kind
of
just
a
mirrored
unit.
Here
you
know
our.
Let's
see
we're
about
four
foot,
four
plus
the
wall
width
here
on
our
hallway.
N
So
if
we
tried
to
reduce
that
by
one
foot
three,
I
don't
believe
we
even
meet
building
code
in
that
at
that
point
in
time
to
provide
access
to
the
for
a
hallway
and
then
it
would
also
we'd
lose
or
we
lose
a
two-car
garage
and
they're
there
by
compromising
the
parking
and
what
we
would
feel
could
potentially
impact
the
neighborhood
negatively.
If
we
didn't
have
two-car
garages
for
each
unit.
F
AJ
Madam
chair,
remember
the
commission:
if
you're
talking
about
the
encroachment
into
the
that
from
the
separation
between
the
intersection,
yeah
yeah.
AJ
Have
a
policy?
That's
a
city
policy,
not
the
highway
district,
didn't
mention
it
or
under
the
discussion
discuss
it.
The
separation
is
required
by
city
code.
K
I
Thank
you
great.
Any
additional
questions.
G
Yeah,
I
just
would
like
some
clarification,
and
I
think
this
is
a
question
for
staff
I
had
to
dig
around
for
I
finally
found
something
that
kind
of
in
an
offhand
way
mentions
demolition.
G
I
Okay,
so
we
actually
don't
have
anybody
on
the
sign
up
sheet
and
I
don't
see
anybody
online
to
testify,
but
for
the
sake
of
the
record,
I
will
ask
if
there's
anybody
that
would
like
to
testify.
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand.
I
And
seeing
then
cnn
will
close?
Oh
we,
mr
stumble.
Would
you
like
the
opportunity
to
rebut
anything.
N
Madam
chair,
I
I
guess
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
we
we
do
feel
like
it
is
a
hardship
with
the
power
line
running
down
the
west
property
boundary
that
would
justify
the
variance
to
the
setback,
we're
providing
a
10-foot
landscape
easement
along
the
eastern
property
line,
pretty
heavily
planting
that
also
looking
at
architecture
and
materials
on
the
street
side
of
that
unit.
On
lot,
one
to
be
able
to
provide
you
know
a
good
street
presence
there.
N
I
we
did
discuss
with
achd
the
location
of
those
driveway
approaches
or
I
did
independently
during
the
layout
of
this
project,
and
while
they
don't
necessarily
have
a
policy
on
it,
they
did.
They
didn't
identify
that
it
would
be
an
issue
we're
just
barely
outside
of
that
setback
from
the
intersection
there.
From
the
face
of
curb,
I
believe
it
was
41
feet,
and
that
was
to
the
one
side
of
it
to
the
center
line
of
the
driveway
approach
there
for
units
one
and
two.
K
K
Really
grouchy
about
that
darny
side
and
it's
a
perfectly
flat
square
lot.
Ben
and
frankly,
I
wish
you
could
figure
out
a
way
to
meet
setbacks.
They're
important,
we
just
had
a
long
discussion
of
them.
That
said,
I
do
think
that
the
presence
of
the
darn
power
pole
and
the
related
easement
does
constitute
a
minimal
hardship.
That
tips
me
in
favor
of
it,
because
I
do
think
overall,
it's
a
it's
a
good
project.
I
mean
it's
a
good
place
to
have
a
little
density.
O
Madam
chair,
I'm
gonna
I'm
going
to
I'm
obviously
in
favor
of
the
motion,
I'm
going
to
agree
and
disagree
with
commissioner
gillespie.
When
I
look
at
the.
I
agree
that
the
issue
is
the
power
pole
and
the
easement
on
for
the
variants
on
the
east
side,
but
when
you
look
at
it
per
ben's
testimony
here
at
the
end,
the
rebuttal,
the
building
the
east
building
wall,
is
closer
to
17
18
19
feet
from
the
face
of
the
curb.
D
J
Oh,
thank
you
just
really
quick.
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion,
but
I
do
want
to
just
pick
up
really
quickly
where
commissioner
glossbee
left
off
and
say
it
is
an
awfully
suburban
looking
product
for
what
is
an
urban
neighborhood.
So
I
I
will
definitely
echo
that
sentiment
too.
These
great
big
two-car
garage
doors
and
all
the
hard
scape
it
really
just
makes
it
look
really
monolithic.
J
I
do
want
to
commend
david
for
his
excellent
staff
work
at
making
sure
the
design
wasn't
totally
monolithic
because
it
looks
like
we
got
great
big
brown
boxes
in
what
was
a
cool
funky
urban
neighborhood.