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From YouTube: Planning and Zoning Commission
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Monday, Sept. 12, 2022 at 5:30 PM MDT
A
To
the
work
session
for
september
12,
202
2022
today
we're
going
to
be
having
a
module,
1
and
2
update
of
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
from
members
of
our
community
engagement
and
comprehensive
planning
team,
starting
with
lindsey
mosher.
So
let
you
kick
it
off.
Thanks
crystal.
B
Get
our
presentation,
my
name
is
lindsey
mosher
and
I
am
the
communications
manager
for
planning
and
development
services
and
our
team
here.
The
zoning
code
rewrite
team
is
here
back
to
present
to
you
all
about
what
we
all
the
updates
that
we've
been
making
and
some
q
excuse
me
community
outreach
that
we
did
this
summer
as
well,
so
just
kind
of
as
a
recap
to
what
this
timeline
has
looked.
B
Like
kind
of
kicked
off
back
in
fall
of
2020.,
we
did
spring
of
2021
outreach
that
was
module
one
on
the
allowed
uses
this
past
winter.
We
did
some
substantial
outreach
on
module
two
and
then,
as
we
were
kind
of
going
through
and
making
some
of
those
edits,
we
realized
that
we
made
substantial
changes
to
modules
one
and
module
two.
We
need
to
hear
from
the
community
again
before
we
could
move
forward
with
module
three.
B
So
we
had
a
small
round
of
outreach
this
summer
with
some
open
houses
that
we
presented
to
the
community,
which
our
staff
will
present
tonight
on
some
of
those
revisions
and
then
looking
forward,
this
fall
will
have
our
consolidated
draft
code.
That
includes
module
three.
As
well
and
then
begin
the
public
hearing
process
in
winter
slated
for
february,
so
some
of
the
main
things
that
we
had
heard
from
the
community,
a
one-size-fits-all
approach
to
neighborhood
level
change-
does
not
fit
boise.
B
We
have
many
different,
great
and
diverse
neighborhoods
in
this
community,
and
we
want
to
recognize
each
of
those
and
not
kind
of
have
this
blanket
slate
approach
that
we
had
originally
presented
to
the
community.
We
also
know
that
we
need
to
consider
the
impacts
of
growth
on
our
existing
infrastructure.
B
We
need
affordable
and
sustainable
housing
immediately,
and
we
need
to
consider
how
we
manage
growth
on
the
edges
of
the
city,
and
so
this
has
kind
of
been
our
new
framework
that
we've
been
working
towards
and
we
presented
to
the
community
this
summer
and
really
the
overarching
ideas
of
how
we
move
forward
so
again
having
a
variety
of
great
neighborhoods
direct
development
where
there's
planned
public
investment
we'll
get
into
some
of
these
details
shortly,
have
a
strategy
to
produce
affordable
and
sustainable
housing
and
manage
growth
along
the
edges
of
the
city
and
now
I'll
pass
it
off
to
andrea
tuning
for
her.
C
Good
evening,
commissioners,
for
the
record,
andrea
tuning
with
planning
and
development
services,
as
lindsay
had
noted,
our
first
primary
foundational
goal
was
that
we
would
recognize
and
appreciate
that
our
city
has
a
variety
of
neighborhoods
and
that
will
appreciate
both
large
lot.
Suburban
traditional
lots
compact,
as
well
as
urban
development,
so
recognizing
that
there
is
variation
in
all
types
of
residential
development
throughout
our
city.
C
And
when
we
looked
at
those
residential
zones,
we
did
make
some
adjustments.
Based
on
the
comments
that
we
made
so
anything
that
you're
going
to
see
here.
That
has
a
circle
around
it
or
has
some
highlighted
bold
text.
That's
going
to
indicate
that
there
was
a
change,
and
so
r1a
is
circled
because
that
re-emerged
as
a
zone.
So
we
did
say
that
the
large
lot
of
r1a
zoning
would
be
appropriate.
Within
the
city.
C
We
identified
the
density
of
r1c
to
be
slightly
elevated
from
eight
dwelling
units
what
it
is
currently
to
12
units.
We
arrived
at
the
12
units
because
there's
43
560
square
feet
in
one
acre
and
when
we
divided
that
by
the
3
500
square
foot
minimum
lot
size,
we
ended
up
with
12..
So
that
was
a
relatively
reasonable
calculation
that
went
into
that.
We
did
slightly
adjust
the
height
for
the
r1c
zone,
specifically
because
we
measure
height
a
little
bit
differently.
C
C
And
individuals
won't
have
the
confusion
that
they've
had
from
what
we've
heard.
So
we
did
give
a
slight
allowance
to
accommodate
for
that.
You're
also
going
to
recognize
that
the
r2
and
r3
zones
have
small
elevations
as
well
for
similar
purposes,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
each
one
of
those
zones
actually
has
some
differing
criteria.
C
Now
we
do
have
some
incentives
and
we'll
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit
further
depth,
but
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
sneak
peek,
we
do
allow
for
some
sustainability
and
affordability
requirements
in
both
the
r1a
r1b
and
r1c
zones.
If
certain
criteria
are
met
and
we'll
do
a
little
bit
deeper
dive,
but
that
kind
of
allows
you
to
do
some
attached
products
such
as
the
townhouse.
C
It
gets
you
into
the
triplex
four
plex,
as
well
as
the
cottage
village
or
the
apartment,
and
that
kind
of
summarizes
the
residential
changes
that
we
went
through
as
we
revised
module
one
and
two
in
regard
to
what
we
heard
from
our
community.
Now
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
public
investment
before
we
start
to
get
into
some
of
those
affordability
and
sustainability
incentives,
and
that
we
do
promote.
D
When
we
spoke
with
our
community
they've,
you
know
felt
a
lot
about
felt
a
lot
of
the
effects
of
growth
and
wanted
us
to
be
more
intentional
about
guiding
where
that
growth
is
happening,
to
ensure
that
we
have
the
infrastructure
to
meet
that
growth,
where
it
is
so
we're
going
to
be
focusing
on
creating
some
new
mixed-use
zones
that
especially
concentrate
our
highest
most
intense
development
in
these
areas
shown
on
the
screen,
because
we
have
already
invested
public
money
into
providing
the
investments
that
are
needed
for
infrastructure
or.
F
D
To
do
so
so,
as
we're
probably
all
aware,
we
want
to
direct
the
most
growth
and
our
most
intense
development
within
our
downtown
planning
area,
so
we're
establishing
the
mx-5,
which
is
mixed-use
downtown,
and
this
is
going
to
be
very
similar
to
our
c5
zoning.
But
what's
notable
about
this
is
that
we
are
removing
floor
area
of
ratio
and
we're
focusing
on
areas
that
are
within
our
downtown
planning
area.
D
But
they
don't
have
the
c5
zoning
designation,
yet
so
we'll
be
converting
some
of
those
more
suburban
commercial
zoned
areas
over
off
of
shoreline
and
the
lust
street
to
mx5
so
being
proactive
about
directing
our
development,
where
we
have
that
infrastructure
and
that
investment.
D
Our
next
area
to
direct
our
development
is
along
state
street
and
we
have
as
planning
staff
and
working
regionally
across
agencies
been
planning
for
state
street
and
I'm
sure
many
of
you
are
aware
for
decades,
and
we
really
want
to
help
further
support
that
vision
of
a
multimodal
corridor
on
state
street.
So
I
actually
have
two
zones
that
relate
specifically
to
state
street.
D
The
first
is
mx4,
which
is
mixed-use
transit-oriented
development
and
we've
identified
our
four
planned
transit
nodes
which
are
whitewater,
collister,
glenwood
and
gary
and
horseshoe
bend
road,
and
these
are
identified
in
a
lot
of
our
long-range
planning
processes.
So
we
want
to
equip
these
areas
with
the
proper
zoning
to
realize
that
station.
You
know,
transit
oriented
development
there,
it's
not
a
great
large
number
of
parcels,
but
we
understand
that
we're
going
to
start
here
with
our
transit
stations.
D
This
has
a
60-foot
height
limit
and
we
actually
have
no
height
limit
if
they're
proposing,
affordable
housing,
which
nina
will
talk
about
when
we
go
through
our
incentives,
we
have
a
very
urban
streetscape.
However,
there's
going
to
be
a
requirement
for
a
multi-use
path
on
state
street,
so
we're
not
so
we'll
be
able
to
get
that
comfortable,
walking
environment
and
the
mx4.
D
So
not
only
do
you
see
state
street,
but
vista
and
fairview
are
on
this
and
vista
state
street
and
fairview
all
have
what
we
call
our
best
in
class
transit
routes,
so
15
minute
headways
during
the
peak
hour
and
30
minutes
all
day
and
service
on
saturdays,
so
for
boise,
that's
our
best
in
class
and
it's
we
want
to
continue
to
support
that
with
our
land
use
and
we've
also
added
our
pathway
corridor,
so
the
federal
way
bikeway
and
the
green
belt.
And
then
we
have
our
community
and
regional
activity
center.
D
We
understand
that
as
we're
creating
a
more
urban
environment.
A
lot
of
these
areas
along
state
street
vista
and
fairview
are
adjacent
to
lower
density,
single
family
residential
zones,
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
ensure
a
smooth
transition
without
limiting
the
potential
of
our
mx
zones.
D
So
what
we're
proposing
is
converting
the
residential
zone,
the
low
density,
zoned
areas
adjacent
to
state
street
vista
and
fairview
to
r2
within
one
eighth
of
a
mile,
so
instead
of
having
a
transition
from
mx3
which
allows
a
60
foot
height
limit
to
an
r1b,
we'll
be
able
to
have
a
more
gradual
transition
going
from
mx3
to
r2,
to
r1c
or
to
r1b.
So
having
that
more
gradual
transition
into
our
lower
density,
neighborhoods.
D
We
recognize
that
not
everywhere
in
the
city
is
going
to
be
this
urban
mixed
use
vision,
and
so
we
know
that
there's
going
to
be
some
general
mixed
use
that
we'll
need
to
see
so
we're
keeping
what
we
call
mx2
that
traditional,
more
auto
oriented
development
pattern.
However,
we
are
going
to
have
requirements
that
have
you
know,
helped
serve
the
pedestrian,
so
there
will
be
still
requirements
for
adequate
streetscapes
there,
for
it's
a
comfortable
walking
environment.
D
Our
last
would
be
our
mixed-use
neighborhood
mx1
and
again
this
is
our
small-scale
neighborhood
uses.
This
is
a
lot
of
things
that
were
previously
zoned
l-o-n-o,
the
more
small-scale
offices,
but
again
opening
that
allowed
uses
a
bit
more
so
that
they
can
become
community
hubs
within
a
neighborhood,
and
you
know
crucial
to
all
this
is
having
some
incentives
to
get
that
affordable
and
sustainable
housing.
So
I'll,
let
lena
cover
that.
G
Good
afternoon,
commissioner
selena
walker
for
the
record.
So
yes,
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
kind
of
the
the
top
piece
of
this
structure
that
we've
laid
out
for
you,
which
is
how
exactly
these
incentives
break
down
for
different
types
of
development.
So
one
of
our
main
goals
was
to
strategize
to
produce
development
that
is
both
affordable
and
sustainable
for
the
benefit
of
our
community.
G
The
first
part
of
this
has
to
do
with
the
r1a
r1b
and
r1c
zones.
So
if
you'll
remember
from
previous
versions
of
the
draft
code,
we
had
floated
the
idea
of
allowing
up
to
a
four
plex
in
all
residential
zones.
We
had
a
lot
of
discussion
with
the
community
about
how
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
with
triplex
and
fourplex,
but
we
also
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
the
kind
of
development
that
we
want.
G
So
what
is
currently
being
proposed
is
that
in
the
r1a,
through
r1c
zones,
you
can
do
up
to
a
triplex
or
a
fourplex
if
one
of
those
three
or
two
of
the
four
units
are
dedicated,
affordable
to
households,
earning
80
percent
ami
or
below
for
a
rental
product
and
120
ami
or
below
for
an
ownership
product,
and
that
would
be
deed
restricted
for
a
period
of
50
years.
In
addition
to
that,
you
would
have
to
incorporate
some
explicit
design
and
infrastructure
elements
that
would
meet.
G
We
also
have
a
new
proposal
for
what
is
called
a
strategic
infill
incentive,
and
the
goal
here
is
to
really
take
a
somewhat
surgical
approach
to
getting
missing
middle
or
small
scale
density
housing
within
already
developed
areas
on
parcels
that
may
be
vacant
or
underutilized.
So,
taking
advantage
of
that
existing
infrastructure
again
developing
where
we
have
the
ability
to
support
that
kind
of
density,
and
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
exactly
what
this
looks
like.
G
So
what
you
see
on
that
map,
there
is
every
parcel
identified
in
the
city
that
would
meet
the
property
location
requirements.
So
what
we're
saying
is
you'd
have
to
be
in
an
r1b
or
r1c
zone,
and
you
would
also
have
to
be
within
300
feet
of
a
collector
or
minor
arterial
or
within
a
quarter
mile
of
a
property
zoned
mx3.
G
It
would
need
to
be
a
vacant
lot
or
one
where
the
improvement
and
structure
value
is
not
greater
than
25
percent
of
the
total
assessed
value
or
if
you
incorporate
the
existing
structure
and
also
no
approved
demolition
permit
for
the
property
within
the
past
three
years.
So
those
two
points:
what
we're
really
getting
at
there
is.
G
We
don't
want
to
create
an
incentive
that
just
incentivizes
tearing
down
existing
housing
and
then
building
something
new,
but
we're
really
trying
to
get
at.
Where
are
the
parcels
in
the
city
that
are
maybe
vacant
or
under
utilized
or
if
you
have
a
really
great
structure,
and
you
want
to
keep
it
there?
G
We
want
to
support
that
as
well,
but
we
would
give
you
the
allowance
to
have
some
additional
density
added
on
to
that
parcel
and
how
this
breaks
out
in
terms
of
the
way
that
the
incentive
is
awarded
is
you
could
do
three
to
four
units
with
no
additional
requirements,
you're
good,
to
go
five
to
eight
units.
You
could
do
with
one
of
those
units
at
a
minimum,
dedicated
affordable
at
80
ami
and
then
you
could
go
even
up
to
12
units,
provided
your
parcels
dimensions
allowed
for
it.
G
Finally,
when
we
get
into
our
mixed
use
zones,
we
also
have
incentives
for
affordable
and
sustainable
development
there,
because
we
already
have
that
allowance
for
greater.
You
know
there's
no
minimum
density
requirements
in
the
mixed-use
zones,
but
we
would
allow
for
a
parking
reduction
and
potential
height
allowances
if
25
of
all
the
units
in
the
building
were
affordable
to
households,
earning
60,
ami
or
below
again
deed,
restricted
for
50
years
and
again
coming
with
those
sustainability
requirements.
G
You
can
see
some
parcels
there
up
in
the
like
foothills
that
are
already
existing,
but
this
would
also
be
for
things
coming
in
through
annexation.
Secondly,
we
have
two
overlay
zones.
One
is
the
wild
and
urban
interface.
This
matches
the
same
mapping
as
the
county
has,
so
it's
having
some
consistency
there
and
then,
of
course,
our
boise
river
system
overlay
and
then
finally,
we'll
be
looking
at
our
annexation
policies.
As
we
roll
out
module
3
in
the
fall
for
our
outreach,
so
keep
an
eye
out
for
that
going
forward.
G
So,
just
to
wrap
that
up,
we
do
have
the
we're
working
on
the
summary
for
module
one
and
two
public
outreach.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
that.
If
you
want
to
see
kind
of
the
feedback
we
got
from
the
community
and
then
we'll
be
releasing
the
entire
consolidated
draft,
including
module
three
coming
up
very
soon
here,
we're
slated
to
do
some
public
outreach
starting
just
next
month.
So
that's
where
we're
at
right
now
and
we'd,
of
course,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
Thank
you.
I
I
have
a
question
about
the
like
no
calculated
density.
I
wonder
if
does
that
ever
backfire
sort
of
where
that
ends
up
being
big
luxury,
fancy
apartments
one
per
floor
or
something
like
that.
G
Sure,
commissioner
said
I
can
try
to
answer
that
and
then
andrew
or
deanna,
if
you'd
like
to
speak
to
that
as
well,
I
think
what
we're
really
getting
to
specifically
with
that
incentive,
trying
to
focus
on
how
height
and
parking
play
a
role
in
terms
of
that's
a
really
powerful
incentive
in
those
mixed-use
zones,
yeah
that
makes
sense.
G
Those
density
limits
and
some
of
the
more
residential
lower
density
zones,
because
we'd
heard
from
the
community
that
that
just
provides
a
kind
of
predictability
to
the
code
that
they
really
appreciated
and
was
easy
for
people
to
understand,
as
opposed
to
when
we're
looking
at
something
more
like
state
street,
where
it
has
more
to
do
with
that
kind
of
the
limits
of
form
would
really
dictate.
What
is
the
density?
I
mean
there
is
kind
of
a
known
density.
It
just
wouldn't
be
written
as
an
arbitrary.
I
So
a
lot
of
that
looked
like
it's
really
plot
by
plot,
and
I
know
it
sounded
like
we
got
away
from
the
all
neighborhood
situation
with
the
zoning,
but
I
guess
I'm
curious
how
you
ended
up.
I,
the
map,
the
maps
that
we
saw
were
are
very
hard
to
read,
obviously
on
where
they
really
are.
But
but
it
looks
like
it's
plot
by
plot
and
so
curious.
I
The
I
guess
for
the
infill
incentives
where
we
were
seeing
just
some
splatterings
on
the
on
the
last
few
slides
that
we
saw
we
could
go
back.
I
could
be
more
specific.
Let's
see.
I
Yes,
but
go
back,
it's
really
like
all
of
these
maps.
Yeah,
oh
sure
that.
D
Hi,
commissioner
steed,
so
actually
these
are
a
lot
so
this
one
specifically,
this
was,
if
you
were
previously
previously
zoned
l-o-n-o,
I'm
probably
forgetting
c1.
So
this
is
actually
based
off
what
our
current
zoning
is.
It
just
looks
like
it
because
we
don't
have
anything
else
surrounding
it
same
with
this.
This
is
anything
that
was
previously
zoned
c2,
with
the
exceptions
of
anything
that's
zoned
c2
that
becomes
these
mixed
use
zones.
D
You
know
if
you
were
this,
you
become
this,
so
it's
very
much
using
our
base
code
and
trying
to
come
up
with
rules
to
convert
it,
but
I
do
hear
what
you're
saying
it
kind
of
seems
like
whoa.
These
are
very
pinpoint,
but
that
was
really
the
direction
we
heard
from.
Our
community
was,
let's
be
a
little
bit
more
context-sensitive
and
really
think
about
what
worked
for
boise
in
those
areas
around
like
make
this
unique
to
boise.
I
That's
great
all
right,
so
the
last
question.
I
guess,
because
we
see
rezones
all
the
time
right
and
we
always
are
really
just
look.
I
mean
we
look
at
kind
of
the
neighboring.
You
know.
Maybe
the
neighboring
plots,
but
not
really
much
more
than
that.
What
will
these,
like?
I
I
guess,
would
would
landowners
be
inclined
to
come
and
ask
for
a
different
zone
in
those
as
they
are
now.
Is
that
will
that
be
a
similar
process.
D
Commissioner,
see
that's
a
great
question:
we
are
actually
we're
converting,
but
we're
rezoning.
Many
of
these
parcels,
especially
mx3,
is
a
great
example
where
fairview
it
has.
You
know
some
c2,
some
c3,
some
all
sorts
of
different
commercials
and
we've
consolidated
that
into
mx
3..
Our
goal
is
that
we're
trying
to
get
closer
and
closer
to
our
future
land
use
map.
So
what
we
actually
want,
the
zoning
to
be
there'll
be
some
things
to
consider,
as
the
commission
gets
new
rezones
into
the
future,
and
that's
really
what
we're
focusing
on
in
module.
J
That's
true,
yeah,
please
chris
comment
and
a
few
questions.
First
to
comment:
everybody
in
this
room.
I
think
if
they
can
ought
to
read
this
book,
I'm
going
to
tell
you
about.
I
got
a
copy
of
it
and
read
through
it
and
it's
pretty
darn
amazing.
It's
called
arbitrary
lines,
how
zoning
broke
the
american
city
and
how
to
fix
it
and
from
a
planning
perspective.
I
think
it'll
blow
your
mind
as
a
commissioner.
J
I'm
curious
what
that's
going
to
look
like,
because
it
seems
to
me
with
some
of
our
previous
applications
that
the
notion
of
some
four
five
story,
building
type
things
and
sort
of
a
housing
village
concept
may
very
well
materialize
out
that
way.
So
I'm
just
curious
what
we're
thinking,
how
we
might
be
thinking
ahead
on
that.
D
I
can
speak
to
what
we
have
in
the
draft
right
now,
commissioner
danley
and
so
you'll
see.
We
do
have
micron
the
area
around
micron.
It's
identified
as
a
regional
activity
center
in
blueprint,
boise
and
you'll,
see
that
there
is
anything
that
was
previously
zoned
commercial
within
city
limits
is
identified
as
being
mx3
down
over
there
and
that's
actually
getting
it's
picking
up
the
federal
way
bikeway
and
it's
picking
up
the
regional
activity
center.
D
So
those
properties
down
south
will
become
mx3
and
that's
what
we
know
for
now
and
then,
like
lena
said,
we're
looking
into
our
annexation
policies
in
module.
Three.
J
Good
good,
okay,
I'm
curious.
I
don't
think
I
heard
much
in
with
respect
to
have
there
been
any
specific
changes
on
setback
requirements
and
any
of
the
residential
zones
that
do
allow,
for
you
know
whether
it
be
more
units
or
or
more
of
a
buildable
structure
and
and
so
forth.
C
C
If
we
were
to
take
state
street,
for
example,
we
have
a
multi-use
pathway,
that's
proposed
along
there,
so
wherever
you
could
get
the
ideal
curb
line
once
the
full
street
build
out
is
completed,
you'd
have
an
eight
foot
detached
there's
an
eight
foot
planter
and
then
you'd
have
the
12-foot
multi-use
pathway
so
in
the
mixed
use
zones,
many
of
those
allow
for
a
zero
foot
setback,
so
your
building
could
be
built
there
as
long
as
your
entrance
provided
a
three-foot
door
swing,
so
it
didn't
come
out
into
the
public
right
of
way,
so
you're
going
to
see
quite
a
bit
as
far
as
front
setbacks
go
as
far
as
your
residential
zones.
C
Most
of
those
stay
very
similar
to
what
you
see
today,
with
the
exception
of
the
allowance
to
attach
units,
and
so
that
is
going
to
accommodate
a
different
product
than
what
we
have
seen
or
we
traditionally
see
that
through
the
planned
unit
development
process,
so
it
would
allow
for
attached
products
to
be
utilized
as
well
and
then
dimensional
standards.
We
walked
through
some
of
the
height
variations
as
well.
Some
of
those
will
also
be
adjusted,
but
everything
else
I
think
you're
going
to
see
probably
stay
very,
very
similar
to
one
another.
C
J
Mr
two,
quick
ones
for
can
parking
minimums.
Are
we
getting
to
that
point?
Are
we
changing
some
of
those
types
of
things.
C
J
J
C
H
C
That
sounds
great.
You
will
see
us
kicking
off
our
public
engagement
in
october,
so
please
watch
for
that
as
we
move
forward
through
october
and
november,
and
then
we'll
probably
visit
with
you
probably
around
christmas
time
to
let
you
know
what
we
heard
with
our
final
outreach
efforts.
So.
E
A
Excellent
presentation
thanks
everybody
for
that.
We
can
just
move
right
into
a
gender
review,
maybe
have
a
moment
before
the
meeting
starts,
but
going
right
into
it.
We
have
minutes
for
august
1st,
as
the
first
thing
to
consider.
A
After
that,
we've
got
two
non-public
hearing
items,
it's
something
we
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
before,
but
the
first
is
revised
bindings
for
car
2211,
pewd
2228,
sub
2235.
This
is
the
at
will
place
subdivision
at
6776.
East
warm
springs
ave.
It
was
for
38
attached,
single-family,
townhomes
and
one
single-family
house.
A
The
commission
voted
to
deny
that
and
recommend
denial
on
in
august
meeting,
and
so
this
is
just
the
revised
findings
which
you
can
accept,
and
then
it
gets
a
little
weird,
with
item
b,
so
item
b.
If
those
are
accepted,
they
would
like
to
request
reconsideration.
They
have
had
time
to
listen.
You
know
take
into
account
the
comments
that
were
at
the
hearing
and
have
come
back
with
new
plans
which
they're
considering
this
new
info.
J
Mr
chairman
yeah
chris
please,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
that
the
proper
role,
because
I
wasn't
here
in
august-
I
didn't
make
a
motion
or
or
vote
on
this,
so
this
is
unusual.
Pardon
me
unusual.
I'm
not
sure
exactly
remind
me
of
my
role
on
this
decision,
one
way
or
the
other
not
having
voted
on
it
before.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
about
to
do
the
same
thing
too,
and
I'm
giving
eyes
to
to
legal,
but
I
believe
you
would
recuse
yourself
from
that
vote,
but
because
there
are
there's
quorum,
it's
fine
to
do
yep.
Is
that
correct.
H
E
H
A
Awesome
and
then
item
one.
The
first
republic
hearing
is
drh
22..
It's
appealed,
rh2274
by
the
blue
valley,
tenant
association
and
parties
at
8675,
south
warehouse
way
and
2392
east
winco
court.
It's
an
appeal
of
the
design
review
approval
to
construct
seven
new
industrial
buildings,
totaling
1
million
190
280
square
feet
with
associated
site
improvements
in
an
m2d
heavy
industrial
design
review
zone.
A
The
recommendation
is
denial
of
the
appeal
and
we
do
have
quite
a
few
people
signed
up
for
that
one.
So
I
think
that's
going
to
be
the
biggest
one
of
the
night
item.
Two
is
sierra
21
42
for
sawtooth
development.
It
was
an
annexation
request
at
8710,
south
pleasant
valley,
road
for
81.23
acres.
It's
been
kicking
around
for
a
while.
It
has
been
withdrawn,
so
we
just
don't
have
to
deal
with
that
item.
Three
is
cr
2135,
pud,
2157
and
sub
2153.
A
This
has
been
subdivision.
This
might
look
familiar.
We
had
a
conversation
about
it
at
a
previous
hearing
but
did
not
hold
the
public
hearing.
They
have
come
back
with
revised
drawings
and
again
that's
an
annexation
of
3.3
acres
with
an
r1b
zone
and
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
53
dwelling
units
on
8.03
acres
in
an
r1c
and
pending
r1b
zone,
and
then
that
preliminary
platform
53
residential
lots
and
nine
common
lots.
There
is
neighborhood
opposition,
so
we
will
be
hearing
that
one.
A
Item
four
is
pud
2240
for
rodney,
evans
and
partners.
It's
at
23,
2312,
south
broadway
ave.
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
unit,
development
comprised
of
40
multi-family
units
on
1.1
acres
and
a
c-1d
neighborhood
commercial.
With
design
review
zone.
We
are
recommending
approval,
but
again
there
is
neighborhood
opposition.
So
we
will
need
to
hear
that
item.
Five
is
cva
2219,
it's
a
variance
request
by
kirk
heit
at
2222,
south
broadway
ave.
It's
a
request
to
encroach
the
interior
side,
setback
on
0.21
acres
and
an
r1d
neighborhood
commercial
with
design
review
zone.
A
We
are
recommending
approval
and
we
haven't
heard
anything.
So
we
can
try
for
consent
on
number
five
number.
Six
is
cop2225
for
lumbered
conrad
architects
at
1400,
west
beacon
street.
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
university
building
within
50
feet
of
campus
boundary
on
0.68
acres
in
the
u
university
district
zone.
Again
we're
recommending
approval,
haven't
heard
anything.
So
we
can
try
for
consent.
A
Item
7
is
cop
2227
for
lkv
architects.
This
is
at
4426,
west
catalpa
drive
it's
a
modification
to
a
conditional
use
permit
to
build
an
addition
onto
an
existing
school
on
4.46
acres
in
an
r1a
single-family
zone.
We
are
recommending
approval,
but
again
the
neighborhood
opposition.
So
we'll
have
to
hear
that.
A
Okay
and
then
the
next
one,
this
was
deferred
from
august
1st.
This
is
cop223.
That's
for
the
state
street
zamzos
llc
at
6202
west
state
street.
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
social
event
center
with
a
parking
reduction
on
3.03
acres
and
a
c4d
planned
commercial
with
design
review
zone.
We
are
recommending
approval,
but
there
is
neighborhood
opposition,
so
we'll
be
hearing
that
one
as
well
and
then
item
nine
is
pewdie
2235
and
suv
2236
at
2504
west
anderson
street.
A
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development,
comprised
of
two
single-family
units
on
0.32
acres
and
an
r1c
zone
and
a
preliminary
platform
residential
subdivision
of
two
buildable
lots.
We
are
recommending
approval
and
we
can
try
for
consent
on
item
nine
item.
10
is
cop2226
cbd
care
llc,
it's
at
10477,
west
fairview
ave.
It's
conditional
use
permit
for
a
child
care
facility
serving
up
to
98
children
on
9.35
acres
in
a
c2d
general
commercial,
with
design
review
zone,
we're
recommending
approval
and
we
have
not
heard
any
opposition.
A
So
we
can
try
for
consent
on
item
10.
item
11
is
cop
2228
and
cba
2231,
for
in
and
out
it's
140
north
milwaukee
street.
It's
conditional
use
permit
for
a
drive
up
establishment
associated
with
a
restaurant
on
0.86
acres
in
a
c2d
general
commercial
with
design
review
zone,
there's
also
a
variance
for
parking
to
encroach
into
the
side
setback
with
that
one.
We
are
recommending
approval
and
we
haven't
heard
anything.
So
we
can
try
for
consent.
On
item
11.
A
I
think
we
just
got
comments
that
cva
2215
we'll
need
to
hear
it's.
It's
for
annelise
peace
at
1614,
north
23rd
street.
It's
a
variance
to
encroach
into
the
rear
setback
and
reduce
the
required
backup
space
for
an
accessory
structure
over
a
thousand
square
feet
on
0.14
acres
in
an
r1ch
single-family
residential
with
historic
overlay
zone.
We
will
be
hearing
that
one.
A
And
last,
but
certainly
not
least,
item
13
is
pud2229
for
plat
forum
architecture
and
design.
This
one
was
also
deferred
from
august
1st,
it's
at
3395,
north
maple
grove
road
and
it's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
five
multi-family
units
on
0.35
acres
in
an
r2d,
medium
density,
residential
with
design
review
zone.
We
are
recommending
approval
and
we
can
try
for
consent
on
item
13.
L
L
A
So
with
that
we'll
place,
we
we
can
try
for
consent
on
item
5,
6,
9,
10,
11
and
13
and
we'll
be
hearing
items
1,
3,
4,
7,
8
and
12.
and
2
has
been
withdrawn
and
a
and
b
are
also
in
there.
Yes,
any
questions.
E
A
Good
evening,
everybody
and
welcome
to
the
boise
city
planning
and
zoning
commission
public
hearing
a
few
things
to
start
out
with
for
tonight's
proceedings.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
virtually
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak.
As
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you
will
be
called
upon
and
unmuted
there
is
a
chat
function
in
zoom.
This
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
A
After
that,
we
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
are
in
person,
then
who
signed
up
on
the
sign
up
sheet
in
advance
and
then
anyone
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
if
you
are
attending
through
your
telephone,
you
can
type
in
star
9.
To
raise
your
hand,
each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
3
minutes
for
testimony.
We
are
strict
with
this
time
as
it
is
limited
in
code.
Finally,
the
applicant
is
allowed
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
A
H
Thanks
crystal
good
evening,
we
are
citizen
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
the
city
council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
conditional
use,
permits,
variances
and
appeals
and
recommendations
to
the
city
council
on
subdivisions,
rezones,
annexations
and
code
or
comprehensive
plan
amendments.
H
A
decision
made
tonight
can
be
appealed
to
the
city
council,
provided
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
hearing.
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight,
we
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
if
there
is
no
public
opposition,
the
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
that
are
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion.
H
P
E
P
E
P
Q
H
Thanks
all
right,
one
item
of
note
a
little
housekeeping
here
to
kick
us
off
tonight.
Item
number
two
has
been
withdrawn,
that
was
a
car
21-42
sawtooth
development
at
8710,
south
pleasant
valley,
road.
That
item
has
been
withdrawn,
so
we
will
not
be
hearing
that
item
tonight.
H
And
then
looking
at
our
new
business
tonight
and
our
agenda,
I
believe
the
first
item
up
for
consent
is
item
number
five
that
is
cva
22-19
the
applicant
is
kirk
height.
The
address
is
222
south
broadway
ave.
This
is
a
variance
to
encroach
into
this
interior
side.
Setback
on
0.21
acres
in
a
c1d
zone
is
the
applicant
present
tonight.
Yes,
I'm
here
great
with
the
records,
show
the
applicant's
present
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report.
H
L
H
Up
next
for
consent,
consideration
is
item
number
six,
that's
cpu,
22-25,
lombard,
conrad,
architects
at
1400,
west
beacon
street.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
university
building
within
50
feet
of
the
campus
boundary
on
0.68
acres
in
the
university
district
zone.
Is
the
applicant
present
yeah
great?
Let
the
records
show
the
applicant's
present
and
are
you
guys
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
H
H
R
H
L
S
H
H
Sorry
great,
thank
you
and
are
you
guys
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report?
Yes,
okay,
terrific!
Let
the
records
show
that
the
applicant
is
present
in
an
agreement
with
the
staff
report
and
is
there
anyone
here
that
wishes
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item.
H
Up
next
is
item
number
11
cup
22-28
and
cba
22-31
in
and
out
at
140-140,
north
milwaukee
street.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
drive
up
establishment
associated
with
a
restaurant
on
.86
acres
in
a
c2d
zone.
There
is
also
a
variance
for
parking
to
encroach
into
the
side.
Setback
is
the
applicant
present
tonight.
N
H
I'm
here,
mr
smith,
are
you:
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report.
T
U
H
Very
good
we'll
go
ahead
and
place
item
number
11
on
the
consent
agenda
and,
last
but
not
least,
for
consent
is
item
number
13..
This
is
pud
22-29
platform
architecture
design.
This
item
was
deferred
from
our
august.
1St
meeting
project
address
is
3395
what
north
maple
grove
road.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development.
Comprised
of
five
multi-family
units
on
0.35
acres
in
an
r2d
zone
is
the
applicant
in
attendance
terrific
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report?
Okay,
very
good?
I
I
move
that
we
approve
the
consent
agenda,
including
the
minutes
from
august
1st
2022
meeting
cva
22-19
cop
22-25,
pod,
22-35
suv,
22-36,
I'm
number
10,
which
is
cup
22-26
and
item
11,
which
is
cup
22-28
and
cba
22-31
and
item
13,
which
is
pewdie
22-29.
V
H
H
L
H
H
H
The
applicant
is
kimberly
horn.
The
project
address
is
6776.
East
warm
springs
avenue.
This
is
essentially
where
we
need
to
discuss.
We
have
revised
findings
from
our
last
meeting.
This
is
an
annexation,
a
conditional
use
permit
and
a
preliminary
platform
residential
subdivision,
so
staff
updated
our
findings
from
our
last
meeting
and
essentially,
we
need
to
approve
those
findings.
This
is
not
a
public
hearing
item.
E
H
Q
H
H
I
M
H
I
H
I
Don't
really
have,
I
don't
think.
Well,
I
don't
have
much
to
say.
I
think
that
the
staff
captured
our
stance
well,
and
so
I
support
the
findings.
The
new
revised
findings.
H
H
H
H
L
H
Terrific
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
right
on
to
the
vote
again
here.
Commissioner
moore,
mr
danley
have
recused
themselves
from
this
vote
again
we're
in
car,
2211,
pv,
22-28
and
suv
22-35.
H
Okay.
Now
that
does
it
for
most
of
our
housekeeping
items
and
we
will
carry
on
to
our
next
item,
which
is
item
number
one
on
our
agenda.
This
is
drh
22-74,
the
blue
valley,
tenant
association
and
party.
The
address
project
address
is
8675
south
warehouse
way
in
two
three:
nine:
two
east
court.
This
is
an
appeal
of
a
design
review
approval
to
construct
seven
new
industrial
buildings,
totaling
approximately
a
little
over
a
million
square
feet
with
the
sodium
associated
site
improvements
in
an
m2d
zone.
O
O
O
The
applicant
is
proposing
seven
spec
industrial
warehouse
buildings,
totaling
approximately
1.2
million
square
feet.
The
applicant
will
be
constructing
winco
court
from
the
southeast
toward
the
northwest
of
the
site
and
will
construct
warehouse
way
within
the
existing
right-of-way
on
the
west
of
the
site.
Building
a
the
building
closest
to
blue
valley
is
oriented
so
that
the
truck
docks
are
on
the
opposite
side
from
blue
valley
and
the
applicant
is
also
proposing
a
landscape
buffer
along
the
north
of
building
a.
O
The
applicant
did
have
a
traffic
impact
study
completed,
which
was
reviewed
and
accepted
by
the
ada
county
highway
district.
This
project
does
not
have
any
frontage
on
eisenmann
road,
but
will
be
accessed
via
eisenman
to
freight
and
winco
and
based
on
the
traffic
study
and
achd
policies.
The
applicant
will
install
northbound
center
left
turn
lanes
on
the
intersections
of
eisenmann
road
and
freight
street
and
eisenmann
road
and
winco
court.
The
applicants
will
install
sidewalk
along
the
roads
that
are
part
of
their
project.
O
O
O
The
applicants
were
agreeable
to
a
number
of
conditions
that
mitigate
impacts
to
the
adjacent
residential
use.
The
design
review
approval
includes
conditions
that
limit
hours
of
truck
idling,
specify
a
design
for
the
north
landscape,
buffer
adjacent
to
building
a
clarify
drainage
requirements,
limit
light
levels
and
screen
mechanical
equipment.
O
The
planning
team
believes
that,
with
these
conditions,
the
project
will
reasonably
mitigate
impacts
and
comply
with
the
design
review
findings.
The
applicant
is
not
required
to
eliminate
all
impacts
for
surrounding
properties,
as
it
is
understood
that
industrial
activities
are
essential
to
industrial
uses
which
are
allowed
in
the
m2
zone.
O
O
Here's
what
that
buffer
would
look
like
in
section
the
berm
would
be
at
least
four
feet
taller
than
the
adjacent
parking
grade
which
would
screen
vehicle
headlights.
There's
no
truck
docks
on
the
north
side
of
building
a
the
parking
would
be
employee,
visitor
parking
and
the
building
is
approximately
120
feet
from
the
north
property
line.
O
In
conclusion,
the
planning
team
recommends
denial
of
the
appeal
and
approval
of
the
project,
including
the
original
conditions
and,
alternatively,
the
commission
can
uphold
the
appeal
and
approve
the
project
with
revised
findings
and
conditions,
or
up
hold
the
appeal
and
deny
the
project
with
revised
findings
for
denial.
Thank
you.
H
W
W
That's
being
appealed
tonight
as
you're
aware,
the
client's
property
has
served
the
blue
valley
residential
community
for
decades,
making
affordable
residential
use
of
the
parcel
long
before
annexation
and
the
city's
initial
decision
decision
to
zone
incompatible
industrial
throughout
the
area.
As
you're
also
aware,
this
is
not
our
first
rodeo.
W
W
W
These
are
manufactured
home
residents
who
are
going
to
be
huffing
the
diesel
fuel
whose
children
are
going
to
be
accessing
izamin
to
get
to
school,
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
community,
and
yet
no
reasonable.
Mitigating
measures
have
been
conditioned
on
this
application
that
would
mitigate
those
injurious
inevitabilities
light
noise,
air
and
water
pollution
generated
and
discharged
will
impact
blue
valley
residents.
Increased
traffic
of
industrial
vehicles,
along
with
the
workers
that
are
associated
with
this
use,
will
create
actual
hazard,
injury
and
potential
for
death.
W
W
W
The
design
reviews
decision
was
fundamentally
arbitrary
and
capricious
failed
to
follow
procedure
with
respect
to
a
finding
consistent
with
the
m2
zone,
designation
and
failed
to
rely
on
substantial
evidence
where
they
sidestepped
the
inevitable
factual.
Finding
that
the
whole
reason
that
we
have
committees
and
people
looking
at
the
approval
criteria
is
to
make
honest,
inevitable,
factual
findings
and
design
review
failed
to
do
that.
They
didn't
feel
comfortable
to
do
that,
but
during
the
during
during
their
verbal
explanation,.
W
They
they
sought
for
the
staff
to
convey
to
you
their
their
misery
at
not
doing
so,
and
it's
shocking
to
me
that
the
staff
would
not
convey
what
the
design
review
committee
implored.
All
of
you
to
consider,
which
is
there,
has
to
be
a
way
to
humanize
this
process
and
to
confront
the
inevitable
factual
finding
of
locating
a
mega
truck
refuel
facility
immediately
next
to
an
affordable
housing
community.
W
In
addition,
there
is
no
new
infrastructure
along
eisemann
road
in
place
to
help
transport
the
thousands
of
new
vehicles
from
all
of
the
previous
and
current
projects,
or
to
help
protect
those
who
use
izamin
artery
to
ingress
and
egress
all
day
and
night
from
blue
valley.
This
includes
young
drivers,
aging
drivers
and
drivers
with
disabilities.
W
Many
of
my
clients-
customers,
have
lived
at
blue
valley
for
decades
and
have
other
family
members
living
at
blue
valley.
They
can
either
afford
to
see
their
homes
go
down
in
value,
nor
watch
the
surroundings
deteriorate,
because
the
city
allows
incompet
incompatible
nuisance
projects
to
be
built
in
their
backyard.
H
F
You
know
staff
present
a
really
nice
job
of
an
overview.
It
is
on
a
78,
acre
property.
It
includes
seven
buildings,
an
industrial
park.
Importantly,
the
proposed
development
is
an
allowed
use
within
the
existing
m2
zoning
and,
as
designed,
is
compatible
with
the
neighbors
on
our
south.
Is
the
winco
distribution
center
in
our
north,
as
was
noted
as
the
blue
valley
manufacturing
home
community,
a
residential
use
that
is
non-conforming
or
grandfathered
on
land
that
is
also
zoned
industrial
and
designated
as
industrial.
F
In
your
comprehensive
plan,
the
applicant
has
met
with
the
blue
valley
neighbors
on
multiple
occasions
and
listened
to
their
concerns
and
taken
special
care
to
design
the
site
to
address
those
concerns,
including
to
orient
the
buildings
to
shield
the
neighbors
from
the
loading
docks
to
adjust
the
phasing
to
build
the
closest
building
to
them.
First,
at
their
request
to
provide
screening
to
increase
the
setback
distance
to
our
shared
property
boundary
to
122
feet
and
to
install
a
large
landscaped
buffer
along
our
shared
property
boundary
which
I'll
describe
in
more
detail.
F
Contrary
to
the
argument
by
the
appellants
council,
just
now,
the
design
review
committee
decision
should
be
upheld
because
they
did
find
all
of
the
appropriate
findings
in
line
with
the
applicable
design
review
criteria.
The
design
review
commission
has
the
jurisdiction
to
issue
a
final
decision.
They
have
technical
expertise
in
this
area
and
their
decision
is
entitled
to
do
consideration.
F
The
committee
carefully
considered
all
of
the
findings
that
are
required
as
set
forth
in
your
code
at
1103.04,
sub
12
for
design,
review
and
I'll
walk
through
these
briefly.
First
dealing
with
traffic,
the
committee
found
that
the
traffic
impact
is
minimized
and
that
pedestrians
and
cyclists
have
been
provided
for
through
sidewalks
landscaping
pathways.
F
All
of
the
off-site
mitigation
will
be
completed
with
this
project,
if
not
already
completed
by
other
projects,
including
turn
lanes
to
be
improved
at
the
intersections
of
freight
and
nines,
and
men
and
winco
court
and
eisenman.
With
these
improvements
upon
project
build
out,
all
impacted,
roadways
and
intersections
will
continue
to
operate
at
level
of
service.
F
F
The
committee
also
found
that
on-site
grading
and
drainage
have
been
designed
so
as
to
minimize
off-site
impact
and
provide
for
erosion
control.
Storm
water,
runoff
generated
by
the
project
will
be
retained
on
site
with
approved
drainage
facilities.
The
project
also
includes
french
drains
along
the
north
property
boundary
line
to
ensure
no
drainage
onto
the
blue
valley
property
from
the
new
landscape.
Berm
additional
drainage
review
by
public
works
will
occur
prior
to
the
issuance
of
building
permit.
F
The
committee
also
found
that
science
will
provide
for
appropriate
identification
by
including
a
condition
of
approval
that
the
signage
plan
must
be
approved
prior
to
issuance
of
any
signed
permits,
as
required
by
code.
Similarly,
the
utility
systems
are
appropriate
because
they
will
be
underground
as
desired
by
the
city.
F
All
the
building,
design
and
criteria
were
found
to
be
met
by
the
design
review
committee,
including
the
building
mass
height
to
with
relationship,
is
consistent
with
the
architecture
in
the
area.
The
openings
and
facade
are
generally
consistent
with
industrial
development
and
design
in
the
area
and
exterior
materials
complement
surrounding
development.
F
F
F
F
Other
mitigation
measures
include
the
buildings,
are
oriented
to
mitigate
sound
and
light
from
the
project
placed
in
the
buildings
are
placed
to
create
a
barrier.
The
truck
bays
are
oriented
away
from
the
neighbors
conditions
of
operation,
reduce
the
activity
hours
with
no
idling
trucks
in
the
evenings.
F
All
exterior
light
will
be
led
fixtures
with
100
cutoffs
storm
water
retained
on
site
and
area
intersections
improved
with
turn
lanes.
All
of
these
measures
are
required
as
conditions
to
the
approval
and
with
these
conditions
and
all
of
the
facts
that
I've
just
described
with
each
of
these
criteria.
F
The
appeal
arguments
that
have
been
raised
by
appellants
we've
addressed
in
our
written
memorandum
and
also
are
addressed
in
the
city's,
the
city,
memo
staff
report
and,
I
think,
are
appropriately
addressed
the
appellants
and
some
have
not
demonstrated
that
there
was
any
insufficient
evidence.
Any
error
of
law.
They
haven't
alleged
any
particular
procedural
violation.
F
This
use
is
allowed
in
the
zone.
It's
consistent
with
the
long-standing
zoning
in
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
for
the
property.
The
applicant
has
worked
hard
to
accommodate
the
neighbors
concerns
through
thoughtful
site
design
and
the
extensive
buffering
along
our
shared
boundary.
The
committee
that
made
the
decision
below
has
technical
expertise
and
design
review
applications.
F
They
appropriately
considered
the
facts
and
applicable
standards
and
made
a
decision
that
complies
with
law.
Appellants
have
not
provided
support
for
their
assertive
grounds
for
appeal
that
give
the
pnc
any
reason
to
overturn
or
modify
the
design
review
commission's
decision
quickly
as
to
the
property
line.
If
I
have
time
there
was
an
allegation
by
appellant's
lawyer
that
the
property
line
is
in
dispute,
this
isn't
the
case.
There
is
no
dispute.
That's
been
raised
about
that.
The
property
lines
have
been
identified
with
surveys
all
the
way
back
to
the
wind
code,
development.
F
In
fact,
this
you
can
tell
from
the
city's
separate
annexation
and
zonings
of
the
property
that
they
are
separate
legal
parcels.
So
there
is
no
question
where
the
legal
boundary
is.
F
L
L
H
X
X
H
X
X
H
H
E
H
They
yeah,
we
we
it's
it's
a
fair
process
where
the
applicant,
the
appellant
and
the
neighbor
association
are
all
given
this
equal
amount
of
time.
I'm
sorry!
If
someone
told
you
you
were
given,
you
would
be
given
30
minutes,
it's
very
common
for
us
to
give
10
minutes
for
an
applicant
10
minutes
for
an
appellate,
10
minutes,
the
neighborhood
association
and
then
again
keep
in
mind.
Everyone
else
gets
their
own
individual
three
minutes
time,
but.
H
I
I
I
just
want
to
remind
the
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
it's
you
know
we're
not
here
to
discuss
the
land
use,
we're
here
to
discuss
the
legal
findings
of
the
design
review
committee.
So,
while
we
would,
we
can
have
empathy
for
the
you
know
place
of
residence.
H
H
P
N
N
Well,
I
was
the
past
president
of
the
eisenmann
neighborhood
association
when
this
first
started
and
we
have
had
two
public
meetings
with
representatives
from
lincoln
properties
and
have
expressed
our
concerns
and
actually
the
design
of
the
project
versus
what
the
developers
said
was
actually
done
before
they
presented
to
us.
N
So
the
berm,
the
landscaping
et
cetera,
was
already
there.
It
wasn't
a
condition
that
we
imposed
on
them.
They
did
that
first,
but
we
have
a
number
of
questions
and
this
little
presentation
is
there
to
kind.
E
N
Address
some
of
these-
and
this
may
be
a
lack
of
communication
or
breakdown
into
communication,
but
there
are
things
that
are
important
to
us,
so
I'll
present.
Y
N
First
of
all,
when
we
were
first
put
in
presented
with
the
project,
lincoln
properties
assured
us
that
their
burn
landscaping
and
building
a
would
shield
to
park
from
the
noise
and
diesel
exhaust
produced
by
the
massive
trucking
terminal,
and
we
appreciated
that
they
expressed
concern.
N
But
the
point
we're
trying
to
make
here
building
is
not
constructed.
That's
kind
of
like
putting
a
big
farm
next
to
us,
because
all
of
the
docking
bays
on
all
the
rest
of
the
buildings
face
us.
So
bullying
a
is
an
integral
part
of
the
protection
for
this
park.
N
N
This
is
showing
us
flat
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
that's
going
to
work.
Are
they
going
to
dig
down
or
build
up
if
they
add
soil,
to
increase
the
average
elevations?
How
high
will
that
make
the
project
if
they
dig
down
on
the
basalt
layer?
How
much
blasting
are
they
going
to
have
to
do
and
who
will
cover
the
damages
to
neighboring
residences
in
their
plans?
They
allude
to
approved
methods
or
approved
plans,
or
studies
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
but
they
don't
actually
say
what's
going
to
happen.
N
N
So
it's
it's
a
question
and
it
hasn't
been
answered.
We
don't
know
staff
asked
answer
either
so
a
possible
solution
of
this
and
no
one's
mentioned
it
rnl
trucking,
which
was
going
to
be
next
to
us
and
now
it's
down
the
road.
A
little
bit
is
also
a
trucking
criminal.
Their
offices
and
the
offices
in
this
building
are
supposed
to
face
us.
N
N
Kind
of
sitting,
next
to
you
and
again
the
trees
yeah
they
look
great
when
they're
fully
mature
when
they
first
go
in
they're,
not
so
big
and
we'll
be
looking
at
a
building
for
a
while
before
they
finally
maturing
and
build
out,
and
that's
a
big
tall
piece
of
structure,
an
extra
residential
area
when
they
talk
about
the
building
being,
in
conformance
with
the
rest
of
buildings
being
built,
that's
through,
but
the
rest
of
those
buildings
being
built
are
off
by
themselves
in
the
desert.
They
don't
have
residences
next.
N
There
are
still
questions
about
erosion.
We
have
creeks
flowing
towards
blue
valley
from
the
project
site.
Now
we
haven't
seen
plans
of
they
say,
there's
a
roasting
control
plan.
We
haven't
seen
it
to
how
that
runoff
is
going
to
be
filtered
or
protected
or
diverted
or
where
exactly
is
it
going
to
go?
They
talk
about
collection
ponds
at
the
back
of
the
property,
but
what
happens
to
the
water
when
it
goes
into
the
collection
ponds?
N
They
think
is
this
going
to
sink
on
the
ground
and
they
are
going
to
divert
it
to
the
alongside
the
railroad
tracks.
That's
again
just
unanswered
questions
of
what's
going
to
happen
and
they
talk
about
an
agree,
an
approved
drainage
plan.
But
what
is
it?
Where
is
it?
And
how
does
it
work
because
we
do
have
10
mile
creek
flowing
into
our
lake,
which
is
right
next
to
that
project
and
it
does
bring
erosion
into
it.
N
There
is
this
is
an
example
of
erosion
along
eisen
road,
which
is
alongside
trinity
trailer
before
we
complained
to
the
city
about
it
and
it
was
flowing
into
our
lake.
N
This
is
the
attempt
to
control
the
erosion
after
we
complained
to
the
city
and
that's
the
finished
control
they
dumped
some
rock
into
the
ditch
and
they
put
some
straw
filters
and
I'm
not
sure
that's
my
idea
of
what
a
good
erosion
control
looks
like,
but
I
guess
the
city
thinks
that's
great
and
if
the
city
thinks
that's
great,
I'm
not
sure
if
I
can
believe
that
they're
going
to
have
a
great
erosion
control
plan.
For
us,
this
looks
like
a
desert
goalie
waiting
for
a
flash
flood
to
me.
N
N
What
do
we
want?
We
want
accountability
in
writing.
We
want
to
bond
to
held
by
the
city
to
cover
any
damages
caused
by
homes
by
excavation
lasting
a
better.
If
that
occurs,
we
want
some
geological
studies
to
know
how
the
blasting
will
happen
and
how
far
they
have
to
go
down,
and
actually
we
don't
even
have
an
elevation
to
show
us
where
exactly
on
this
piece
of
land,
it's
going
to
sit,
how
high
it's
going
to
be
french
drains
are
great
for
diverting
water,
but
they
don't
filter
anything.
They
just
divert
it.
N
The
color
of
the
building
is
kind
of
a
sort
of
spot
with
us
because
they
had
promised
us
a
we
verbally
agreed
in
a
color
with
trevor
nickel,
one
of
the
applicants,
but
it's
not
shown
in
the
current
plan,
and
we
want
to
be
assured
that
lighting
will
conform
to
city
codes
building
a
next
to
blue
valley.
We
would
like
that
to
be
lower.
N
H
Yeah
now
we're
going
to
move
to
questions
by
the
commission
from
to
either
the
appellant,
the
applicant
or
staff,
and
then
once
that's
concluded,
we'll
move
into
public
testimony
where
everyone
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
testify
on
their
own
behalf,
okay
and
then
that
will
follow
following
that.
We'll
have
a
rebuttal
opportunity
by
both
the
appellant
party
and
the
original
applicant.
So
that's
the
process.
Okay,
all
right!
So
go
ahead.
H
V
I
have
a
question
for
the
appellant,
I
think
so
you,
I
guess
I'll
wait,
take
it
up
to
the
podium,
so
you
referenced
like
reasonable
mitigating
measures
that
would
allow
for
the
inten.
You
know
in
your
discussion
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
you
think
reasonable.
Mitigating
measures
are
in
order
to
put
industrial
next
to
residential.
L
W
I'd,
I
would
preserve
the
argument
that
it's
an
incompatible
use
and
in
order
to
help
these
people
in
the
residential
use,
I
think
the
buffer
has
to
be
much
much
larger
and
it
was
striking
at
design
review
there.
There's
this
suggestion
that
building
a
is
going
to
buffer,
but
you
heard
the
neighborhood
association
point
out
the
fact
that
the
applicant
refused
to
commit
to
building
building
a
at
all,
let
alone
first.
W
You
know
my
clients
are
willing
to
sit
down
and
talk
more,
particularly,
but
ultimately
it
there
needs
to
be
a
larger
buffer,
and
there
needs
to
be
much
more
robust
treatment
for
the
transport,
which
is
a
hazard
to
all
of
the
residents
of
blue
valley.
Additionally,
you'll
note
that
you
know
they
are
seeking
a
great
deal
of
parking
and
so
to
the
degree
that
the
number
of
parking
and
units
allowed
exceed
the
thresholds
at
code
or
that
they're
seeking
exceptions
to
that.
W
V
O
All
levels
of
service
were
going
to
be
acceptable,
with
the
exception
of
those
intersections
which
they'll
add
those
turn
lanes
to,
but
they
didn't
have
any
requirements
for
eisenmen
in
terms
of
widening
there.
There
are
plans
to
widen
eisenmann,
but
that's
a
ways
out
yet.
H
P
H
E
H
H
I
F
Right
chairman
members
of
the
commission,
that
was
the
proposed
phasing
plan
great,
and
so
we
worked
with
the
agencies
to
accommodate
that
and,
as
you
heard,
there
were
some
back
and
forth
at
the
neighbors
about
whether
we
could,
when
they
asked
for
that
it
did
require
us
to
work
things
out
with
the
phasing
with
achd
because
of
the
way
the
roads
come
in,
and
so
we
were
able
to
do
that
and
that's
why
there
was
a
change
of
don't
know
if
we
can
but
we'll
try
to,
and
that
is
our
plan
to
move
forward
with
that.
H
J
Just
to
be
clear,
our
decision
in
front
of
us
this
evening
is
is
pretty
specific
and
outlined
on
page
22
of
our
packet
and
our
our
question
that
we
need
to
answer
is
the
series
of
five
right,
which
is
the
community.
The
committee
which
being
design
review
is
in
violation
of
the
constitution
federal
state,
the
the
decision
was
exceeding
the
statutory
authority
and
so
forth.
J
So
it
really
boils
down
to
did
they
error
right,
and
so
I
guess
my
question
then
to
staff
is
one
of
the
things
that
was
brought
up
with
testimony
is
the
notion
of
things
being
codified
and
being
being
written
down.
So
as
an
example
with
with
with
what
ms
nelson
just
said
about
building
a,
I
noticed
in
the
comments
about
the
mature
trees
and
then
certainly
trying
to
get
a
bigger,
caliper
right
off
the
bat,
the
erosion
control.
O
O
Mr
chair,
commissioner,
finfrock
the
buffer,
the
landscape
itself
is
50
feet
wide
and
then
the
distance
from
the
building
to
the
property
line
is
approximately
122
feet.
Thank.
AA
M
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
about
the
building
and
the
site,
so
I
guess
I'll
start
with
the
building.
So
for
our
staff
report
says,
the
mechanical
screening
is
not
included
and
if
mechanical
units
are
put
on
the
roof
they'll
have
to
be
screened.
Is
that
mechanical
screen?
I
know
some
jurisdictions
vary.
Is
that
mechanical
screening
included
in
building
height,
so
this
building
would
actually
be
taller
if
they
had
to
screen
on
the
roof.
O
E
M
And
so,
in
the
event
that
mechanical
screening
is
required.
Is
that
something
that
would
have
to
give
back
before
design
review
for
a
revision,
or
is
that
something
that
would
just
be
handled
administratively?.
O
M
So
for
the
site,
one
big
kind
of
point
that
stuck
out
for
me
is
the
number
of
parking
stalls
shown
on
the
site.
Plan
kind
of
far
out
exceeds
the
maximum
required,
but
I
don't
see
a
revised
site
plan
showing
how
that
would
be
handled.
How
would
how
would
that
be
handled?
I
guess
upon
development
of
this
property.
O
Mr
chair,
commissioner,
moore
these
are
speculative
buildings.
We
do
have
slightly
different
parking
calculations
depending
on.
If
they
are
warehouse,
tenants
or
some
other
you
know,
industrial
tenant
use,
we
utilize
the
main
use
of
each
building.
O
So
if
the
applicant
did
have
a
proposed
tenant,
we
would
reevaluate
the
parking
again
and
make
that
calculation
again
to
ensure
they're
complying
with
the
parking
requirements
and
code.
We
generally
don't
count
fleet
parking
towards
the
required
parking.
The
required
parking
is
based
on
employee
and
visitor
required
parking.
O
Mr
chair,
commissioner,
moore,
we
generally
will
utilize
the
use
that
we
think
it
will
be,
so
we
would
utilize
warehouse
in
this
case
if
they're
doing
shell
permits
and
then
when
they
come
in,
for
the
ti
we
will
reevaluate
and
if
they
need
to
make
modifications
to
the
site
to
comply
with
the
code,
they
would
have
to
do
that
prior
to
occupancy.
Okay,.
L
M
So
another
thing
that
kind
of
stuck
out
to
me
is
there's
no
trash
enclosures
shown
on
this
area.
I
think
one
concern
would
be
those
kind
of
lined
up
near
this
residential
area.
Is
there
a
way
in
code
to
kind
of
mitigate
orienting,
those
towards
the
residents.
O
Commissioner
mart
we
do
require
screening
around
trash
enclosures,
usually
that
consists
of
the
trash
enclosure
and
then
landscape
around
the
trash
enclosure,
and
we
would
encourage
placement
away
from
the
north.
It
looks
like
there's
lots
of
opportunities
to
put
them
in
places
that
won't
be
close
to
the
north
side.
H
H
H
H
O
Mr
chair,
there
is
no
condition
regarding
the
encroachments
of
the
blue
valley
residents
onto
this
property.
Okay,.
H
Thank
you
caitlyn
just
to
confirm,
so
you
know
we're
here
to
understand
design
reviews
approval.
We
can
add
additional
conditions
on
that
approval
if
we
see
fit.
You
mentioned
in
your
in
your
testimony
that
your
applicant
or
your
client
is
going
to
work
with
the
appellants
regarding
any
encroachments
on
that
property
line.
Is
that
is
that
the
case,
and
would
you
agree
to
that
if
we
decide
to
condition
that
as
part
of
our
approval
here
tonight,.
H
Oh,
actually,
sorry,
sorry
deb,
sorry,
I'm
moving
a
little
slow
tonight.
I
apologize.
I
noticed
on
the
well
we've
seen
the
berm
section
a
couple
of
times.
I
want
to
confirm
for
the
record
here,
though,
it
looks
like
in
the
site
plans
there's
actually
a
privacy
fence
proposed
actually
who's
caitlin
driving.
Right
now
it
looks
like
there's.
A
privacy
fence
proposed
just
immediately
north
of
that
the
northernmost
parking
row.
H
Sorry
deb
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
you.
I
promise
I
just
got
to
get
this
caitlyn
first
here
so
kaelyn,
based
on
the
site
plan.
We
were
just
looking
at.
It
sure
looks
like
to
me
that
there's
a
privacy
fence
proposed
just
immediately
north
of
the
parking
row
and
then
the
berm,
the
landscape,
berm,
is
on
the
north
side
of
that
privacy
fence.
I
don't
see
the
privacy
fence
in
this
section.
H
H
H
F
Yeah
chairman
I'll
I'll
answer
this
and
then,
if,
if
these
guys
have
more
to
add
they
can
so
as
I
understand
it,
the
privacy
fence
was
proposed
along
the
the
parking
area.
But
then,
at
the
request
of
the
neighbors,
they
asked
for
a
fence
that
set
was
below
our
landscaping
in
berm
to
designate
their
property.
F
And
so
that's
why
there
is
a
fence
down
there
as
well.
But
that
is
just
a
split
rail
fence
to
provide
kind
of
visibility
to
the
landscaping
and
not
kind
of
wall
off
so
for
security
reasons,
kind
of
a
prefer
not
to
have
the
gap,
that's
fenced,
where
you
can't
easily
access
in
between.
But
so
we
don't
need
the
the
the
privacy
fence
at
the
top
for
screening
any
longer
because
of
the
berm
that
comes
up
four
feet
higher
than
the
grade
of
our
site.
H
O
U
J
Chairman
commissioner
daley
just
coming
back
real
quick
katelyn
to
the
erosion.
O
J
O
J
And
then
last
question:
if
I
may,
the
notion
of
the
blasting
and
the
bond
issue,
can
you
talk?
Can
you
touch
on
that.
O
Mr
chair,
commissioner
danley
we
have
not
done
a
bond
in
relation
to
blasting.
We
don't
really
review
blasting.
I
believe
there's
like
a
fire
permit
required
for
blasting,
but
other
than
that.
We
are
not
involved
in
that
process.
Q
M
I've
got
a
couple
more,
so
I
guess
the
first
one,
the
big
one
is
truck
idling.
I
know
that
not
all
of
the
uses
are
necessarily
known
at
this
point,
but
is
it
I
see
that
there's
already
a
hour
limit
on
idling
trucks,
but
is
it
difficult
to
just
straight
up
restrict
idling
trucks?
Is
that
have
you
seen
that
before
in
previous
applications,.
O
O
So
limiting
the
hours
is
something
we've
done
before,
but
we
have
an
outright
denied
idling
trucks,
understood.
M
And
then
one
more,
mr
chair,
hazardous
conditions
came
up
quite
often,
and
I
know
that
there's
you
know
the
m2
designation
and
code
kind
of
restricts
it
talks
about
residential
adjacent
tooth
into
uses
are
hazardous
uses
defined
in
code
somewhere.
O
J
E
J
H
I
declined
to
close
the
loop
with
you
all
on
the
fencing
question
so
sounds
like
essentially,
a
split
rail
fence
proposed
on
the
property
line.
Currently
splitter
offense
is
going
to
provide
nothing
for
privacy
and
then
a
potentially
a
privacy
fence
along
the
parking
row
on
the
north
side
of
the
parking
row
adjacent
to
building
a
is
that
would
that
help
to
alleviate
some
of
the
concerns
regarding
screening
the
building
further,
in
addition
to
the
berm
and
the
landscaping
that's
being
proposed,.
X
Now
with
that
being
said,
their
berm
that
they
propose
being
so
high
does
nothing
for
the
site,
because
all
it
is
is
a
cake
and
the
building
is
the
cake
top.
It
only
goes
higher.
It
doesn't
cover
anything
so
that
berm
shouldn't
even
be
taken
into
consideration.
That
berm
is
being
used,
so
they
don't
have
to
grate
it
down
to
our
level
and
blasting
is
the
only
way
they
develop
out
there.
It's
basalt
rock
volcanic
rock.
We
have
a
warehouse
going
in
just
northwest
of
us.
We
can
hear
them
boom.
X
E
X
L
X
X
H
Y
H
H
So
those
of
you
in
person
probably
realize
our
clock
is
not
working
tonight.
Our
timer
for
when
people
are
testifying.
Apologies
for
that,
so
we're
gonna
open
up
the
public
testimony
right
now.
Everybody's
gonna
get
three
minutes
to
testify,
because
our
visual
clock,
which
is
usually
on
the
screens
up
here,
is
not
working.
The
clerk
is
gonna.
Give
give
you
all
a
warning
at
30
seconds.
It
says
you
have
30
seconds
to
wrap
up
your
testimony.
Okay,
so
not
the
cleanest
situation,
I'm
sorry
about
that,
but
that's
what
we're
gonna
do
so
yeah.
H
So
if
you're
here
in
person,
we'll
start
with
the
in-person
folks
here,
if
you
signed
up
that's
great,
if
you
didn't
sign
up,
that's
fine
too,
you
can
still
testify,
so
everybody
can
start
queuing
here
at
the
podium
when
you
start
your
testimony
start
with
your
name
and
address
please
and
then
you'll
have
three
minutes
to
testify
and
again
the
clerk
will
prep
you
when
you
have
30
seconds
left
to
wrap
up
your
testimony,
so
the
podium
is
free.
AC
AC
We
are
on
top
of
the
bench
and
surrounded
by
the
desert.
Our
sunsets
are
bounded
by
valley
walls
and
desert
winds,
cooler,
summer
nights.
This
is
lake,
patricia
that
we're
worried
about
erosion
falling
into,
and
this
is
a
morning
shot
of
it.
This
is
an
evening
shot
of
new
manufactured
homes
and
older
homes
coexist
in
the
lake.
The
park
is
constantly
upgrading
like
boise.
It
doesn't
stand
still
as
older
units
are
vacated.
AC
AC
AC
More
examples
of
pride
of
ownership
of
landscaping,
another
example.
This
is
not
your
1960s
mobile
home.
The
insides
of
homes
are
just
like
any
other
home
in
boise
interior
shots,
stainless
steel
appliances,
nice
cabinetry,
well,
littered
lighted
rooms,
look
like
any
mobile
home,
you
probably
think
of
another
interior.
AC
AC
It's
a
park
of
all
ages,
grandpa
neal
with
granddaughter
he
has
lived
in
this
unit
since
the
park
was
first
opened
spent
last
summer,
repainting
his
home
and
always
puttering
around.
As
previous
stated,
blue
valley
is
a
diverse
park.
This
home
is
owned
by
a
gentleman
who
relies
solely
on
social
security
and
has
severe
copd.
AC
While
it
may
take
him
a
lot
of
effort
and
days,
he
takes
pride
in
maintaining
his
home.
An
elderly
couple
lives
in
this
home.
The
husband
has
copd
and
heart
condition.
The
wife
has
diabetes.
A
week
ago.
Their
front
yard
was
so
overgrown.
You
could
not
see
the
house
surrounding
neighbors
pitched
in
claimed
it
out.
Blue
valley
is
a
community
that
takes
care
of
its
neighbors
a
90
year
old
woman
lived
in
this
house
until
a
month
ago,
when
she
passed
away.
AC
AC
AA
AD
To
trick
I
live
at
2155
blue
sage,
lane
boise.
I
just
have
three
things
that
that
I'm
concerned
about
one
is
if
we
could
have
the
picture
again
of
that
of
the
berm
and
the
fencing
and
whatever
my
home,
I
don't
know
how
they're
measuring
the
height
of
the
homes,
my
home,
does
not
sit
on
ground
level,
I'm
sitting
up
on
bricks,
and
that
concerns
me
both
for
the
blasting,
but
it
also-
I
don't
know
if
that's
taken
into
consideration
for
that
berm.
AD
So
if
the
fence
is
a
proposed
fences,
six
feet,
that's
going
right
next
to
that
car
before
the
berm.
That
doesn't
really
do
much
for
me.
If
you
put
the
six
foot
fence
on
top
of
the
berm,
that
might
actually
do
something
in
terms
of
mitigating
the
light.
That's
going
to
come
through
there
until
those
trees
get
more
mature.
So
I
would
propose
put
the
fence
on
top
of
the
berm,
so
we
can
have
four
foot
worm
six
foot
fence.
AD
It's
not
just
truck
idling,
if
they're
working
at
night
to
move
the
trailers
in
and
out
of
those
truck
bays
already
at
night.
When
my
windows
are
open,
I
can
hear
winco
or
rnl
trucking
or
I
don't
know
which
one
it
is.
I
can
hear
that
beep
beep
beep
of
the
the
truck
backing
up.
That
is
going
to
be
so
much
closer
to
us
now
and
so
the
trucks
might
not
be
idling,
but
that
doesn't
mean
they're
quiet,
so
noise
mitigation-
I
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
there.
So
those
are
my
three
points.
AD
AE
AE
We
really
enjoy
the
lower
level
traffic
with
easy
access
to
downtown
lucky
peak
reservoir
in
the
airport.
We
love
our
close-knit
community,
the
beautiful
beauty
of
the
lake
and
views
of
the
mountains
and
sunsets.
AE
It
seems
to
me
that,
in
the
midst
of
the
unpresented,
unprecedented,
affordable
housing
crisis,
the
city
should
be
doing
everything
in
its
power
to
preserve
existing,
affordable
housing
like
blue
valley
in
2019
tenets
fought
off
another
industrial
development
that
was
ex
existential
threat
to
the
blue
valley.
Community.
AE
I've
pulled
up
some
things
that
people
have
said
then
about
the
proposed
industrial
development
that
seemed
to
also
apply
now
mayor.
At
the
time,
david
beater
said
that
proposing
the
land
swap
to
move
industry
away
from
the
blue
valley
said
somewhere
in
the
past
government.
Let
these
folks
down
it
wasn't
city
government.
AE
If
you
have
an
opportunity
to
make
right,
what
wasn't
we
in
government
ought
to
take
that
opportunity,
planning
and
zoning
commission
president?
At
the
time
jennifer
stevens
said
we
have
a
potential
public
health
situation
on
our
hands
and
we're
talking
about
not
just
the
fuel
diesel
fuel
fumes
and
the
noise
pollution
and
the
other
things
that
I
mentioned
tonight,
but
we
also
have
a
homelessness
problem
in
this
city
and
a
housing
crisis
which
is
also
a
public
health
issue.
AE
AE
I'm
very
concerned
about
that,
in
fact,
it
is
a
classic
textbook
case
of
planning
failure.
There
are
other
plots
of
land
that
are
not
directly
adjacent
to
people's
homes,
some
even
that
the
city
currently
owns.
Given
the
comments
noted,
I
question
how
boise
city
left
behind
all
of
these
considerations.
AE
I
believe
that
the
parties
involved
have
been
treated
with
a
great
injustice
to
have
ever
entertained
this
proposal.
I'm
certain
that
lincoln
properties
would
not
have
chosen
to
invest
the
funds
and
man-hours
to
come
against
a
community
of
residents
with
the
intent
of
taking
their
piece.
Air
quality
and
quality
of
life.
Lincoln
properties
would
undoubtedly
not
have
wanted
to
cause
the
effects
of
an
enormous
facility
if
they
themselves
or
their
families,
were
living
in
this
community.
I
don't
believe
their
property
informed,
properly
informed
when
they
purchased
the
property.
AE
AF
Name
is
sue
collins.
I
live
at
2199
blue
lake
lane
in
blue
valley
manufactured
home
park.
I
retired
here
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
the
reason
is,
I
have
a
passion
for
wildlife.
When
I
saw
this
lake
right
on
my
deck,
I
couldn't
believe
it.
I
wanted
to
own
that
house
and
I
do
all
of
these
pictures
I'm
going
to
just
flip
through
them.
All
of
these
pictures
are
from
my
back
deck
cranes,
herons
turtles.
AF
Hawks
baby
goslings
born
next
door.
All
of
these
are
there.
It
is
a
haven
of
a
quiet
haven.
It's
a
home
for
over
a
hundred
varieties.
Yeah
I've
been
I've,
been
noting
them
a
hundred
different
varieties
of
birds,
waterfowl
and
other
animals
coexisting
with
residential
homes.
These
are
I'm
worried
about
the
people.
AF
AF
Okay.
This
is
why
we
care.
This
is
why
we
care.
This
is
why
you
should
help
us.
These
are
the
recent
and
planned
projects
in
the
last
year.
Okay,
it's
not
just
the
1.9
million
square
feet
of
lincoln
project.
We
also
have
winco
who's
who's
added,
eight
eighty
thousand
square
feet
of
space.
We
got
the
boise
gateway
in
process.
We've
got
the
factory
outlet
malls
just
sold;
they
have
1100
parking
places,
but
they're
not
that
far
away
from
us,
rnl
mixed
use,
they
added
a
building
gallon
road
distribution
center
is
absolutely
huge.
AF
It's
over
a
million
square
feet.
594
vehicles.
We
did
get
the
dust.
We
got
all
the
the
carcinogenic
assault
dust
from
that
project
in
our
homes,
microns
going
to
be
building
a
bunch,
they're
they're
right
across
the
freeway
from
us.
That's
not
even
a
mile,
mr
gas.
Oh,
my
goodness,
they
have
eleven
hundred
eleven
thousand
square
foot
building,
but
they
have
the
biggest
parking
lot
for
these
trucks
and
every
night
it's
packed.
It's
full
those
car
those
trucks,
because
my
son's
a
trucker.
I
know
they
park
there.
AF
Y
AF
P
AF
AF
Z
Z
Z
The
other
thought
that
I've
had
is
if
ada
county
highway
department
is
going
to
improve
eisman
and
they're,
not
doing
it
for
15
years.
Obviously
they
think
it
needs
improvement
now
and
how
they
can
add
all
of
these
trucks
and
the
personal
cars
from
the
employees
adding
to
an
already
dilapidated
road,
and
if
you
drive
down
eisenmann,
you
will
see
the
extreme
erosion
that's
already
occurred.
Z
S
To
approve
this
project
at
this
date
would
be
premature
and
potentially
dangerous,
with
the
likelihood
of
disproportionately
harming
members
of
protected
classes
under
the
fair
housing
act.
We
have
multiple
requests
for
accommodation,
reasonable
accommodation
in
line
with
the
federal,
fair
housing
act
and
backed
by
health
care
providers,
showing
a
connection
to
the
proposed
development
and
adverse
impacts
on
the
health
of
particular
residents.
Living
in
blue
valley
with
disabilities.
S
Blue
valley
contains
11
percent
hispanics,
a
50
higher
percentage
of
residents
of
hispanic
origin
than
the
rest
of
the
city
city-wide.
The
percentage
of
people
with
disabilities
11
is
at
11,
but
in
blue
valley
it's
a
staggering
34
percent.
This
includes
at
least
three
ident
individuals
with
severe
respiratory
problems.
That
ifsc
has
personally
identified
the
loss
or
degradation
of
the
environmental
conditions
around
blue
valley
and
the
residents
quality
of
life.
Disparately
impacts.
These
concentrated
groups
under
the
fair
housing
act.
S
The
city
has
a
duty
to
affirmatively
further
fair
housing,
which
means
that
they
must
take
meaningful
steps
to
prevent
inequity
among
protected
class
groups
and
land
use
decisions.
This
is
a
legal
as
well
as
a
moral
imperative
as
such.
The
residents
with
disabilities
need
you
to
use
that
affirmative
duty
to
stop
the
project.
S
We
ask
that
you
perform
a
comprehensive,
scientifically
based
health
impact
study
of
how
this
development
will
affect
the
community
before
the
application
moves
forward.
In
addition,
all
seven
buildings
are
covered
on
one
site
site
by
hundreds,
I'm
sorry
on
one
side
by
hundreds
of
tractor
trailer,
bays,
meaning
this
development
should
be
rejected
just
the
same,
as
was
rnl
carrier's
proposed
trucking
terminal
on
the
park's
north
side
in
2019.
S
If
the
city
decides
to
approve
this
heavy
industrial
usage
next
to
a
residential
community
that
flies
in
the
face
of
both
urban
planning
best
practices,
the
federal,
fair
housing
act
and
simple
common
sense,
then
the
city
must
likewise
find
the
resources
to
purchase
new
mobile
home
park
land
and
move
all
215
homes,
just
like
what
happened
in
the
2000.
With
that
last,
a
mobile
home
park
on
fertile
way
and
via
the
city's
recent
decision
to
purchase
to
preserve
another
mobile
home
park
on
the
bench
as
an
important
source
of
affordable
housing.
Y
Good
evening
richard
lewellen
9170
hill
road,
I
hold
a
phd
in
biochemistry
and
my
education
allows
me
to
evaluate
the
relevant
literature
regarding
the
health
effects
of
exposure
to
trucking
emissions.
Between
earning
my
masters
in
biology
and
my
phd,
I
was
awarded
a
special
training
grant
from
the
who,
the
international
agency
for
cancer
research,
where
we
study
the
interaction
between
genetics,
pollution
and
cancer.
Y
Warehouses
today
are
essentially
trucking
terminals
and
trucks
burn
diesel.
Diesel
exhaust
is
different
than
other
vehicular
emissions
and
is
in
its
own
category.
It
is
characterized
by
fine
and
ultra
fine
particles
to
which
our
attacks
attach
toxins,
for
example,
formaldehyde
benzene
and
dioxins,
and
these
particles
are
carried
deeply
into
the
lungs
by
uncombusting,
carbon
or
black
soot.
Y
This
makes
diesel
exhaust
hazardous,
chronic
exposure
causes
chronic
inflammation
of
the
lungs
reduced
lung
development
in
children,
exacerbation
of
asthma,
more
severe
responses
to
viral
infections
and
as
a
class
one
carcinogen,
lung
cancer.
It
is
associated
with
cardiopulmonary
disease
and
mortality.
Y
Boise
code
states
that
m2
land
should
be
separated
from
commercial
or
residential
development
and
m2
uses
should
not
create
hazardous
conditions,
and
there
was
some
confu
confusion
with
staff.
Here
I
heard
earlier
the
code
states
conditions
and
not
uses
and
conditions
are
site
and
project
specific.
They
aren't
simply
storage
of
flammable
materials.
Y
So
the
conditions
are
what
is
at
issue
here
per
code.
The
question
is:
will
this
project
create
a
hazardous
condition
for
the
residents
of
blue
valley?
All
the
components
necessary
to
create
a
hazardous
condition
are
present,
a
use
that
will
create
harmful
missions
adjacent
to
a
residential
population
sensitive
to
these
emissions,
especially
children
and
the
elderly.
Y
This
responsibility
fails
the
city
or
falls
to
the
city.
No
other
agency
has
or
will
make
this
determination.
Design
review
does
not
have
technical
expertise
in
air
quality.
Achd
does
not
examine
air
quality.
Idaho
deq
does
habitually
model
air
quality
from
diesel
engines,
while
only
when
they
are
stationary.
When
they
are
mobile,
they
have
no
jurisdiction,
even
if
the
impacts
are
concentrated
at
a
stationary
site.
Y
If
boise
cannot
or
will
not
make
this
determination,
then
what
meaning
does
our
code
have
without
this
necessary
evidence?
How
can
the
law
be
upheld?
Clearly,
this
is
an
exceptional
and
extraordinary
circumstance
and
in
order
to
resolve
it
and
meet
code,
boise
should
upheld
blue
valley's
appeal.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
K
Hello,
hello,
okay,
so
my
name
is
cara.
Kane,
I'm
at
8463
blue
heaven
lane.
I'm
writing
to
express
my
strong
opposition
to
case
number
drh220074.
K
There
was
never
a
notification
of
zoning
to
residents
of
blue
valley
who
will
be
the
ones
who
have
to
live
with
the
extreme
changes
to
their
surroundings.
Using
city
housing,
development,
setbacks
for
manufactured
mobile
homes,
allowing
for
development,
a
heavy
industrial
within
43
of
homes
is
not
ethical.
K
K
K
K
Blasting
within
40
feet
of
home
is
a
very
strong
safety
concern.
Wildlife
has
been
observed
in
the
area
and
loss
of
sage
brush
habitat
is
a
serious
form
of
biodiversity
loss.
Any
planning
should
consider
the
continuing
impact.
K
There
are
endangered
species
that
habitat
in
sagebrush
and,
let's
see
blue
valley,
neighborhood
is
affordable.
Housing
blue
valley
is
a
workforce
housing
for
the
nearby
businesses,
low-income
senior
struggles
as
struggle
as
rents,
climb
higher
almost
half
of
the
u.s
workforce,
does
not
earn
enough
for
rent
time.
K
Thank
you
for
your
consider
considered.
Sorry,
thank
you
for
your
continued
service
and
support
of
our
communities.
Please
support
blue
valley.
I
urge
you
to
disapprove
the
proposed
case
number.
Thank
you.
X
Bonnie
hardy
8301
blue
heaven
lane
boise
idaho,
so
the
concern
goes
back
to
the
blasting,
the
geological
study.
This
is
something
we
had
brought
up
with
lincoln.
When
we
had
a
discussion.
I
have
the
email
that
trevor
sent
me
saying:
oh,
don't
worry,
and
then
I
said
well,
who
is
the
company
and
what
type
of
studies
has
been
done?
He
goes.
Oh,
we
haven't
hired
him
yet,
but
I
assure
you
it's
going
to
be
done
properly
because
there's
a
gas
line
out
there
too,
that
doesn't
answer
that
has
no
meat.
X
They
told
us
that
building
a
that
was
what
they
showed
us
when
they
met
with
this
ahead
of
time.
Yes,
they
showed
this
beautiful
rendition
of
this
huge
building,
a
so
you're
concentrating
on
building
a
but
then
on
our
second
neighborhood
meeting
one
of
the
people,
who's
he's
an
excavator.
He
goes
so
what
sequence
are
you
building
the
buildings
because
that
one
property
next
to
blue
valley?
It
has
to
be
excavated
with
dynamite,
because
we
just
helped
rnl
and
they
said
well.
X
We
might
not
even
build
that
building
and
tonight
I
still
don't
hear
a
commitment,
their
sequence
on
their
latest
permit
application
does
not
show
building
a
until
the
second
phase.
So
that's
something
I
think,
planning
and
zoning
needs
to
put
in
writing
because
they
presented
building
a
as
part
of
the
buffer
noise.
We
flipped
it
around
the
transition
space,
the
120
feet.
That
includes
a
parking
lot.
X
N
X
Didn't
include
it
well
I'll,
send
them
to
your
emails,
but
anyway,
the
geological
study
is
something
we
really
need,
because
this
other
bill
that
they're
doing
any
one
of
you
can
go
out
there
by
the
car
lot,
that's
on
eisenmann
and
see
the
plumbing
of
the
smoke
now
another
thing
I'd
like
to
bring
up
is
achd.
They
did
qualify
heisman
as
it's
appropriate
guess
what
the
rating
was.
They
go
by
a
b
c
and
d
when
we
got
a
d
minus
now
that
was
before
all
these
other
additional
buildings.
X
P
L
H
AG
Good
evening
my
name
is
esther
seha
and
I
reside
at
3901
north
cambria
way.
This
evening
I
speak
to
you
as
a
long-time
resident
of
the
boise
area.
I
want
to
thank
you
first
for
giving
us
an
opportunity
to
provide
comment.
I
recognize
your
the
task
before
you
this
evening
is
very
specific
to
design
review.
AG
I
do
want
to
point
out
as
an
aside
that
industrial
uses
the
emit
pollutants
should
not
be
located
next
to
residential
areas
because
they
do
have
impacts
to
residents,
given
that
we
are
only
speaking
to
design
review
here,
I
would
ask
that
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
consider
extending
that
barrier
between
the
residents
and
the
property
to.
AG
I
believe
someone
mentioned
a
thousand
feet
at
least
a
thousand
feet,
and
then
I
believe
there
was
also
one
of
the
commissioners
who
indicated
that
the
number
of
parking
spaces
is
more
than
what
is
required,
and
so
some
consideration
in
reducing
the
number
of
parking
spaces,
and
that
is
it.
Thank
you.
E
H
All
right,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
testimony
portion
of
this
item
we'll
go
back
to
rebuttal
now
rebuttal
first
by
the
applicant,
and
then
the
appellant
will
be
given
also
some
time
for
about
five
minutes
adequate
for
each
of
you
right.
F
Chairman
members
of
the
commission,
thanks
for
your
time
this
evening,
lots
of
testimony
about
use,
as
you
know,
we're
not
seeking
a
rezone.
We
are
not
asking
the
city
to
place
m2
next
to
this
existing
residential.
It's
already
there.
The
city
has
that
in
your
plans
and
your
comprehensive
plan-
and
it
is
zoned
that
way-
we're
also
not
asking
for
any
use
that
is
not
allowed
in
the
m2
zone,
so
we're
not
asking
for
any
deviation
or
any
exceptions
or
proposing
any
uses
that
aren't
already
contemplated
and
allowed
by
your
code.
F
The
project
design,
as
has
been
described,
includes
many
mitigation
measures,
including
the
extensive
landscape
berm
with
height
to
it,
to
address
headlights
to
provide
adequate
screening.
We
are
agreeable
to
placing
the
privacy
fence
on
the
top
of
that
berm
if
it
wasn't
shown
that
way
already.
That
is
an
agreeable
change
to
us.
As
was
requested.
F
We
are,
we
have
increased
the
setback
significantly.
As
was
noted,
the
orientation
has
brought
the
trucking
bays
away
from
the
residence,
not
just
in
distance,
but
with
screening
and
will
be
over
380
feet
from
the
property
line.
We
have
conditions
of
operations
that
reduce
the
idling
at
night.
The
lights
will
be
screened
and
have
the
100
cutoff.
There
was
testimony
about
storm
water
and
concern
about
how
that
will
work,
and
they
will
be
drainage,
infiltration
beds
that
are
approved
by
the
city
and
in
accordance
with
all
standards,
and
it
will
be
retained
on
site.
F
F
As
for
blasting,
the
scope
is
still
being
studied.
If
it
is
needed,
it
will
comply
with
all
applicable
codes.
Similarly,
as
staff
answered
about
the
parking,
if
the
tenants
and
uses
require
the
parking
that
is
there,
that
will
be
appropriate
if
we
end
up
with
tenants
and
uses
where
the
parking
is
excessive,
then
that
will
have
to
be
evaluated
at
that
time
and
could
require
a
conditional
use,
permit
or
reduction
in
parking
spaces,
and
so
that
will
evolve
as
the
tenants
and
uses
are
available
on
the
property.
F
And
so
that
would
be
a
later
decision.
So
with
that,
and
we
do
ask
for
your
support
in
following
the
decision
that
was
made
by
the
design
review
committee
and
as
recommended
by
staff
both
to
the
design
review
committee
and
in
their
review
of
the
appeal
that
has
been
filed
and
would
stand
for
any
further
questions.
You
may
have.
F
W
The
lincoln
property
the
project
will
negatively
change
the
environment
for
the
residents
of
blue
valley
dramatically
negatively
change
the
environment
for
the
residents
of
blue
valley.
This
project
would
be
a
nuisance
to
the
community
for
years
to
come.
It
is
an
incompatible
use
next
to
a
residential
community.
W
W
W
W
W
L
H
Thank
you.
Okay.
That'll
conclude
the
hearing
on
this
item.
We'll
bring
this
back
before
the
commission
to
render
a
decision
just
for
my
fellow
commissioners
we're
looking
at
drh
22-74.
H
Proposal
yeah.
No,
I
mean
it's
a
great
point,
commissioner
danley,
so
you
know
at
issue.
I
think
it's
the
first.
Certainly
the
first
bucket
is
that
issue
right
is,
is:
did
design
review
error
in
their
decision
to
grant
the
approval
in
regards
to
bucket
number
two,
we
do
have
the
authority
to
add
additional
conditions
if
we
felt
like
conditions
were
lacking
in
the
design,
review
staff
report
and
or
the
additional
conditions
the
design
review
board
added.
H
You
know
to
to
those
conditions,
so
I
think
I
mean
both
are
I
mean
we
certainly
need
to
deal
with?
H
You
know
the
dr
approval,
certainly,
but
then,
if
there
are
additional
conditions,
I
think
that
we
we
certainly
should
certainly
entertain
those.
H
Land
use
itself
is
really
not
at
issue
here.
You
know
the
application
is
not
a
rezone
and
the
applicant
has
met
all
of
the
basic
fundamental
requirements
of
the
zone
in
regards
to
setbacks
and
development
standards.
V
P
V
I
think
I
agree
with
that.
First
over
your
comment
about
yeah.
I
think
that
the
city's
design
review
approval
it
adheres
to
the
boise
city
code
standard
and
current
criteria
for
approval.
I
I
think
we
probably
should
just
move
on
to
conditions
and
talk
about.
H
M
I
agree
with
that.
I
think
I
agree
I
mean
basically
with
commissioner
fin
fox
summary.
Exactly
I
mean
I
don't
see
how
they
are
and
I'd
be
open
to
a
discussion
about
additional
conditions.
H
H
However,
we
probably
all
share
some
concern
over
some
of
the
conditions
so
before
we
muddle
through
adding
additional
conditions.
If
we
are
heading
towards
denying
the
appeal,
I
think
it
would
benefit
us
benefit
us
all
to
maybe
have
a
discussion
about
what
additional
conditions
we
want
to
add
before
we
make
the
motion
and
list
out
all
those
conditions.
Mr.
I
Chair,
commissioner,
stead,
okay,
so
not
emotion,
but
I
would
propose
a
condition
to
because
it
sounds
like
there
were
a
couple
of
things
that
maybe
the
applicant
was
already
to
commit
to
at
the
last
hearing.
But
that
would
put
the
neighborhood
at
ease.
So
I
would
propose
that
we
conditioned
that
building
a
is
built
in
the
first
sequence
and
then
that
also
the
privacy
wall
is
at
the
height
of
the
berm.
E
L
M
I
I
If
the
staff
could
just
give
us
a
question,
because
you
answered
this
question,
so
it's
not
new
information,
but
I
maybe
just
heard
it
wrong.
The
question
being:
are
the
mechanics
on
top
of
the
40
feet
or
included
in
the
40
feet.
A
H
While
we
all
ponder,
I
want
to
take
a
take
a
moment
and
take
a
step
back
and
thank
everybody
for
your
time
tonight
and
your
testimony
and
your
thoughts.
It
is
certainly
a
challenging
situation.
H
I
appreciate
the
care
and
the
thought
on
both
sides
regarding
you
know
the
development.
Certainly
the
issue
here
is
not
you
know
the
removal
of
blue
valley
or
anything
like
that.
H
The
applicant
has
done
a
nice
job
of
making
their
development
fit
within
the
confines
of
the
code
on
this
particular
site.
They've
actually
gone
above
and
beyond
in
regards
to
the
setbacks
related
to
building
a
and
you
know,
proposed
pretty
extensive
landscaping
to
help
buffer
the
native
rank
development.
H
So
I
think
that
sort
of
is
a
you
know.
Simple
review
of
the
design
review
approval
a
couple
other
things
that
are
yet
to
come.
I
mean
certainly
the
geotechnical
study
is,
is
underway
or
will
be
completed
as
the
design
progresses
and
that's
a
standard
process
for
any
sort
of
development.
H
So
there's
no
error
in
the
process
there
in
my
mind,
so
I
think
that's
just
some
high
level
thoughts
for
me
on
the
project
as
a
whole.
H
You
know
I'm
not
a
I'm,
not
a
pollution
scientist,
but
when
I
see
you
know
the
the
care
they've
taken
to
provide
a
wider
buffer
adjacent
to
the
blue
valley
residences
on
the
north
side,
the
fact
that
the
trucking,
the
docks
are
going
to
be,
you
know
480
or
400
feet
away.
H
You
know,
I
think
they've
done.
You
know
reasonable,
if
not
above
reasonable
effort
to
move
those
trucks
as
far
as
they
can
from
that
adjacent
property.
So
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
how
I'm
seeing
things
right
now.
H
Oh
right,
thank
you.
We
tabled
that
and
I
tabled
it
chris
yeah
crystal
caitlyn.
Could
you
help
us
just
clarify
that
screening
issue.
O
O
We
don't
know
where
the
mechanical
equipment
is
going
to
be
located
if
it's
going
to
be
rooftop
equipment
or
ground
equipment,
but
we
would
require
it
to
be
screened
on
the
roof
and
we
would
incorporate
that
into
the
height
when
we're
measuring
the
height.
But
it
looks
like
the
applicant
has
room
to
accommodate
mechanical
screening
within
the
height
limit
of
the
zone.
E
O
Mr
chair,
the
max
height
allowed,
is
55
feet.
55.
H
E
I
V
V
H
V
I
think
we've
already
had
a
lot
of
discussion
on
this
tonight,
but
basically
the
application
met
all
the
city's
design
review
approval
and
the
project
adheres
to
boise
city
code
standard
and
the
criteria
for
approval.
So
I
think
we
just
added
the
conditions
at
the
neighborhoods
benefit
and
to
address
their
concerns,
and
for
that
reason
I
think
that
that
I'm
recommending
denial
of
the
appeal.
I
H
I
I
just
lastly,
I
guess
for
me.
Lastly
wanted
to
add.
Just
personally
I
was
on
the
commission
in
2019,
so
I
do
know
a
lot
about
blue
valley
and
all
the
beautiful
wildlife
and
all
the
wonderful
residents
that
live
there,
and
I'm
sorry
that
you
have
to
come
again
to
fight
for
your
home.
But
I
hope
that
what
we
were
able
to
do
up
here
will
help
at
least
mitigate
some
of
those
impacts
that
you'll
be
facing,
and
we
do
definitely
need
to
fight
for
our
renters
and
affordable
housing.
M
Chair
commissioner,
moore
one
more
item
on
the
mechanical
screening,
so
I
think
the
intent
or,
in
my
mind,
was
to
maintain
that
40
foot
height
at
the
northern
portion
of
building
a
only
and
just
step
that
back
so
that
you
know
right
now:
you're
showing
a
40-foot
building
put
mechanical
on
there
and
screen
it
and
be
55
feet
tall.
So
by
setting
that
back
and
mitigating
just
that
one
portion
from
the
residential
area.
I
think
that
was
kind
of
the
intent
in
that
it's
a
little
bit
in
addition
to
the
zone.
V
Chair
yeah,
commissioner,
I
move
that
we
revise
my
motion
to
include
the
added
condition.
As
a
commissioner
morris
stated,.
H
Q
J
All
right,
I'm
gonna,
support
the
motion,
but
I
do
believe
that
the
people
who
are
testifying
here
this
evening
and
who
testified
online
and
who
wrote
in
deserve
a
little
bit
more
explanation
and
I
feel
like
it's
something
that
we
are
obligated
to
do
so.
Bear
with
me.
J
Our
decision
this
evening
is
purely
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
design
review
committee
aired
in
their
determining
factors
and
the
five
priority.
Sections
governed
by
our
state
are
law
and
state
code
and
so
forth,
and
it's
it's
outlined
pretty.
Clearly.
I
don't
believe
that
they
aired.
I
think
that
what
they
did
and
when
you
read
through
their
testimony
and
the
evidence
that
they
that
they
saw,
I
think
that
they
made
the
decision
that
they
needed
to
make.
Why?
Because
this
property
is
zoned
m2
and
therefore
what
is
proposed
is
permitted
by
our
code.
J
So
there's
nothing
in
our
code
and
what
was
permitted
that
can
be
necessarily
overturned,
but
it
can
be
mitigated
and
the
mitigation,
as
we
know,
is
in
our
report
and
we've
added
to
it.
I
think
to
do
the
best
that
we
can
in
order
to
minimize
the
the
potential
challenges
between
the
two
uses.
That's
the
piece
that
I
think
we
should
at
least
touch
on
a
little
bit,
because
it
seems
to
me
that
in
2013,
when
the
the
blue
lake
folks
were
annexed,
it
was
annexed
and
made
a
non-conforming
use
and
zoned
m1.
J
That
meant
m1
and
m2
are
two
zones
directly
next
to
each
other
and
therefore,
in
our
code
anyway,
it
shows
compatible
non-conforming
but
compatible.
Therein
lies
the
challenge.
Therein
lies
the
problem
and
therein
lies.
Unfortunately,
I
think
a
decision
that
was
made
by
bodies
before
us
before
our
existing
council
and
so
forth.
That
I
can't
speak
to
all
I
know
is
I
have
what's
in
front
of
me
now
and
what
I
have
in
front
of
me
now
is
a
lawful
obligation
made
by
our
own
attorneys.
J
They
are
made
by
our
own
staff
and
our
own
code
to
do
with
what
I
think
we're
doing
this
evening.
So
it's
an
explanation.
I
understand
it's
not
one
that
everyone's
probably
happy
to
hear,
but
I
do
think
you
we
owe
you
something
a
little
bit
more
than
hey
it's
just
code.
So
that's
just
something
I
think
we
needed
I
needed
to
say
anyway
and
but
nonetheless,
I'm
going
to
support
the
motion.
H
H
Okay
thanks
everybody,
commissioner
commission's
pleasure,
when
I
carry
on
take
a
short
break,
just
keep
on
going.
Okay,
all
right,
we'll
carry
on
to
our
next
item
tonight.
That's
item
number
three
cer21-35
pud
21-57
nsub
21-53,
5727
hill
llc.
This
is
an
annexation
of
3.3
acres,
a
conditional
use
permit
and
a
primary
plat
for
53
residential
lots
and
nine
common
lots
on
eight
acres
in
an
r1c
zone
and
an
r1b
zone
we're
going
here
from
staff.
This
item
was
deferred
from
our
meeting
on
july
11th
and
we're
here
from
staff.
AI
The
subject
property
is
approximately
eight
acres
in
size
and
comprised
of
two
parcels.
The
approximate
three
acre
western
parcel
is
located
in
ada,
county
and
zoned
r6,
and
the
approximate
five
acre
eastern
parcel
is
located
within
the
city
and
zoned
r1c
as
such,
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
annex
the
western
parcel
and
also
proposing
a
pioneer
development
for
53
units
with
the
subdivision.
AI
The
site
is
located
along
the
south
side
of
hill
road,
an
address
at
5727,
west
hill
road.
This
application
was
heard
before
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
before
on
july
on
on
july
11th
and
was
deferred
to
this
hearing,
and
the
applicant
was
given
specific
instruction
at
the
time
and,
as
you
can
see
from
the
aerial
photograph,
the
surrounding
neighborhood
is
primarily
comprised
of
detached
single-family
homes
and
open
space
and
there's
a
farmer's
union
irrigation,
lateral
that
extends
along
the
south
of
the
property
line.
AI
As
seen
on
this
slide,
the
requested
r1b
zone
is
compatible
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
as
it
has
designated
a
large
lot
on
the
line
juice
map
within
which
in
within
which
the
r1b
zone
is
allowed
and
the
rmb
zone
is
compatible
with
the
adjacent
properties
and
allow
for
single-family
residential
development.
That
is
consistent
with
what
is
anticipated
to
develop
in
the
area.
AI
Other
agencies
have
commented
on
the
application
and
stated
no
objection
to
the
annexation
and
therefore
the
planning
team
supports
the
annexation
to
r1b
and,
as
you
can
see
from
this
from
the
site
plan
here,
the
development
consists
of
a
subdivision
comprised
of
detached
and
attached
single-family
homes,
a
pd
granted
granting
reduced
lot
size
and
interior
setbacks,
which
in
general
allows
for
the
townhouse
development
to
occur
as
being
proposed,
and
also
it
also
proposes
a
public
street
which
are
stubbed
to
the
east
and
west
and,
as
previously
noted,
the
application
was
previously
heard
before
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
on
july
8
on
july
11th
and
at
and
at
this
point
commit.
AI
AI
These
recommended
changes
include
include
the
following:
provide
a
mix
of
housing
types,
provide
detached,
sidewalks
and
landscape
buffers
along
the
public
street,
construct
the
multi-use
path
along
the
irrigation
irrigation
canal,
provide
for
more
usable
open
space
as
an
amenity
within
the
pud
and
install
a
30-foot
landscape
buffer
along
hill
road.
The
revised
project
includes
all
of
these
design
elements
and,
in
summary,
the
vise
project
is
consistent
with
all
the
required
finding
as
per
code.
AI
The
planning
team
received
several
letters
from
the
public
expressing
concerns
with
the
annexation
that
developed
the
concerns
expressed
for
the
annexation
involved,
the
fire
department's
response
time.
To
address
this
concern,
I
would
note
that
the
fire
department
had
no
objections
to
the
annexation.
AI
AJ
Hello
commissioners,
thomas
wall,
1775,
west
state
street
number,
363,
boise,
83702
part
of
the
development
team
for
ben's
subdivision.
I've
been
working
hand-in-hand
with
david
over
here
on
the
planning
team.
AJ
I
think
you
know
we
were
here
back
two
months
ago
discussing
our
plan
and
we
heard
some
discussion
about
the
pathway
along
the
canal,
which
we've
included
in
our
plan.
Now
a
mix
of
housing
types
which
we
originally
were
just
proposing,
single-family
detached
product,
and
so
we've
accommodated
that
request
for
a
mix
of
housing
types.
AJ
And
you
know
this
has
been
a
coordinated
effort,
we've
communicated
with
achd
public
works
parks
and
recreation
and
by
and
large
it
seems
everybody
has
at
this
point
approved
of
what
we
within
these
governing
agencies,
approved
of
what
we
would
like
to
do
with
this
subdivision.
Remote.
E
AJ
Quick
summary
just
similar
to
what
david
talked
about
the
53
new
homes
for
boise
residents,
it's
in
an
infill
location,
close
to
downtown
we're
15
minutes,
drive
from
downtown
boise
we're
providing
a
private
park
for
the
for
community
use,
there's
off
street
parking
for
all
residents.
AJ
All
the
homes
are
set
back
at
least
20
feet,
so
there's
off
street
parking
as
well
as
attached
garages
to
all
these
homes,
so
plenty
of
off-street
parking.
We
have
continuous
pathways
at
the
north,
a
long
hill
road
detached
from
hill
road
to
provide
safety
for
joggers
and
bikers
there's
also
a
pathway
part
of
the
boise
master
pathways
plan
along
the
canal,
and
that
was
a
big
discussion
point
back
in
july,
which
we've
accommodated
additionally
we'll
be
providing
access
to
boise
city
sewer
as
well
as
suez
water,
water.
AJ
The
current
home
is
on
a
well
as
well
as
a
pressure
sewer
system
up
to
hill
road
and
we
will
be
providing
a
gravity
sewer
system
so
instead
of
pumping
the
sewage
up
to
hill
road
will
actually
work
south
and
and
have
a
gravity
system
that
flows
into
the
neighboring
subdivision.
AJ
Additionally,
we've
accommodated
the
detached
sidewalks
with
the
eight
foot
landscape
buffer
along
the
east
west
road
and
class
two
street
trees,
as
david
show.
This
is
a
quick
rendering
you
can
see
the
canal
to
the
south
and
the
pathway
tucked
behind
the
homes,
as
well
as
the
pathway
out
the
right
side
of
this
picture
along
hill
road
and
there's
a
30-foot
landscape
buffer
after
we've
dedicated
12
feet
to
achd
for
road
widening
which
will
accommodate
bikers
and
just
a
little
more
safer.
AJ
This
is
a
quick
picture
of
our
platte.
The
entrance
is
strategically
located
per
achd
across
from
the
haze
silver
subdivision,
which
was
approved
earlier
this
year
and
that's
for
visibility.
So
line
of
sight
between
this
subdivision
entrance
and
exit
with
the
subdivision
across
the
street.
We've
also
widened
the
entrance.
So
it's
not
the
minimum.
We've
widened
it.
We
have
an
island
which
the
fire
department
was
happy
with
because
it
provides
a
little
bit
more
access
for
them
and
it
also
improves
the
visibility
onto
hill
road
because
there's
a
larger
vision
triangle
there.
AJ
AJ
AJ
There
are
some
that
have
up
to
30
foot,
rear
setbacks,
reduced
side
setbacks,
one
side
will
have
a
three
foot
setback
and
the
other
side
will
be
an
attached
zero
lot
line,
but
there
will
be
no
more
than
two
consecutive
attached
homes
that
allows
each
home
to
have
windows
on
one
side
at
least
for
natural
light.
It
improves
home
efficiency
because
one
side
is
attached
and
doesn't
have
the
heat
loss
to
an
exterior
wall,
and
it
also
allows
for
maintenance
to
each
backyard.
AJ
A
couple
renderings
of
some
sample
homes,
we've
had
an
architect
draw
up
and
then
a
sample
floor
plan
we'd
expect
to
build
family
homes
here
three
about
three
bedroom,
maybe
four
bedroom
in
certain
circumstances.
Two:
two
and
a
half
baths.
Sixteen
hundred
to
two
thousand
square
feet
attached
two
car
garage
on
all
homes
off
street
parking
on
at
all
homes
and
then
reduce
yard
maintenance
to
make
these
as
affordable
as
possible
for
this
area.
AJ
We
currently
don't
have
a
pathway,
but
with
our
40-foot
common
lot
at
the
back
of
our
project,
it
will
accommodate
a
service
road
as
well
as
the
boise
pathway
that
they're
requesting
safety
is
a
big
concern.
Farmers
union
wants
us
to
make
sure
there's
a
fence
between
walkers
and
their
canal,
and
I
think
some
of
the
neighbors
have
expressed
that
concern
as
well.
AJ
AJ
AJ
So,
basically,
as
you
come
in,
you
drive
into
a
park
setting,
there's
trees,
lining
the
entrance
and
then
a
private
park
right
in
front
of
you
and
there's
no
driveways,
no
houses
directly
in
front
of
that
entrance,
which
will
help
with
traffic
along
that
street
amenities
will
be
providing
0.6
acre
private
park,
800
feet
of
pathway
along
farmers,
union
canal,
part
of
the
pathways
plan,
600
feet
of
pathway
along
hill,
road
off
the
street
electric
vehicle
outlets
in
all
homes,
drought,
tolerant,
fescue
and
efficient,
irrigation
sprayers
in
all
common
areas
and
then
gravity
sewer
rather
than
the
sewage
pump
station.
AJ
L
L
Q
M
J
AJ
AJ
Request
of
the
of
the
I
believe
you
might,
I
can
remember
the
code
that
it's
from,
but
it's
a
specific
specifically
mentioned
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
I
believe.
AI
Mr
members
of
the
commission,
I
think
the
collister
master
plan,
neighborhood
master
plan,
encourages
providing
a
mix
of
housing
types
when
they're
within
their
neighborhoods.
J
So
if
I
had
been
here,
then
I
would
have
heard
that
it's
on
me
other
quick
question
with
the
two
stud
streets
and
not
cul-de-sac,
I'm
acht
is
requiring
you
to
put
one
of
their
little
classic
this
street
to
be
extended
sign
on
either
of
those,
I
think,
is
that
correct.
AJ
Q
The
there
will
be
signs
this
will
extend
in
the
future.
L
H
Great,
I
think
that
does
it
for
questions.
Thank
you.
Next,
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
up
for
public
testimony
on
this
item.
Anybody
in
person,
if
you
want
to
come
on
up
and
testify
podium,
is
free
and
doesn't
like.
We
have
any
takers
so
we'll
make
the
call
for
anybody
online.
That
would
like
to
testify
on
this
item.
Please
raise
your
hand.
H
AB
H
AB
Jennifer,
michelle
5820
west
hill,
boise,
83703
yeah.
I
I
would
like
to
say
a
few
things.
First
of
all,
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
the
developer
doesn't
mention
that
were
raised
because
I
raised
them
and
I
provided
documentation,
no
mention
of
effects
on
wildlife
or
putting
a
wildlife
corridor
through
the
area,
and
also
there
are
a
number
of
trees
back
there
and
we're
going
to
have
to
see.
AB
We
have
a
number
of
hawk
and
peregrine
falcon
and
endangered
species
around
here
we're
going
to
see
what
the
effects
of
this
are
going
to
be
on
those
no
mention
about
the
fact
that
opening
up
the
canal
is
going
to
be
an
attractive
nuisance,
we're
going
to
need
police
presence
and
we're
going
to
have
to
yeah
do
some
safety
and
if
someone
gets
hurt
who's
going
to
be
actually
on
the
hook.
For
that,
there's
very.
AB
What
I
see
in
the
developer's
plan
is
a
lot
of
water,
thirsty,
trees
and
a
lot
of
grass
and
not
a
lot
of
real
attention
to
native
landscaping,
and
I
could
introduce
him
to
a
place
down
just
down
the
street
from
where
he
is
where
they
can
put
in
they.
AB
One
of
the
things
that
is
huge
is
developers
finances.
Question
hasn't
been
addressed.
Since
I
wrote
my
objection.
The
economic
conditions
have
deteriorated
even
further.
One
of
the
problems
I'm
looking
at
an
article
from
markets
insider,
is
that
the
u.s
treasury
market
has
become
less
liquid
and
less
deep.
It's
supposedly
the
deepest
and
most
liquid
bond
market
in
the
world.
AB
Also,
there's
a
I'm.
Looking
at
wall
street
journal
front
page
junk
loan
defaults
trigger
jitters
about
credit
crunch,
another
indication
that
credit
is
drying
up.
Does
the
developer
have
the
credit
and
the
financing
guaranteed
to
withstand?
What's
going
on?
Also
on
friday,
there's
the
threat
of
a
nationwide
railroad
strike.
Sixty
percent
of
the
nation's
freight
could
go
dead
on
saturday.
AB
Is
the
city
council
going
to
do
its
due
diligence
and
make
sure
that
the
developer
can
complete
the
project
and
can
sell
the
homes,
especially
as
the
boise
housing
market
is
turning
and
if,
if
anything
happens,
I
think
city
council
is
going
to
be
on
the
hook
for
questions
about
why
it
didn't
make
sure
the
developer
could
prove
that
he
could
withstand
all
this.
Or
are
you
just
planning
to
leave
us
with
a
ruined
hole
if
he
can't
go
through
and
finish
his
development?
AB
Also
residents
need
larger
yards,
especially
if
they
have
children,
not
smaller
yards.
These
homes
are
being
developed
for
families,
kids
need
to
get
out,
especially
if
there's
another
lockdown.
I
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
room
for
children
to
go
out
and
play
and
common
lots
aren't
going
to
be
the
place
to
be.
If
there's
a
pandemic.
H
Okay,
thank
you,
man,
okay,
any
other
folks
online.
That
would
like
to
testify.
H
AJ
Appreciate
the
time
to
address
some
of
these
concerns,
I
kind
of
wrote
them
out,
and
I
did
read
this
the
letter
written
by
our
the
neighbor
ms
michot,
specifically,
if
I
can
address
a
few
of
them
here,
canal
safety
farmers
union
is
requesting
a
fence
to
protect
the
canal
from
that
exact
purpose.
AJ
On
the
other
side
of
the
canal,
there's
a
service
road
that
people
do
use
for
walking
and
there
is
no
fence,
so
this
will
actually
be,
in
my
opinion,
a
potentially
better
alternative
for
safety
purposes,
landscape
plan.
We
did
have
rodney
evans
partners,
a
landscape
architect,
put
together
our
landscape
plan,
so
the
you
know
that
we
did
hire
a
professional
to
to
help
us
with
this.
Will
the
wells
dry
up
in
the
area?
AJ
We
will
be
providing
irrigation
water
from
the
canal,
with
a
pressure,
irrigation
system
and
we'll
be
bringing
suez
so
we'll
actually
be
getting
off
of
the
well
so
that
I
believe,
will
help
as
well
larger
yards
for
children.
You
know
one
of
the
things
we've
I
think
addressed
with
this
new
plan.
It
does
make
these
homes
more
affordable,
being
smaller,
which
allows
these
families
to
be
in
this
area.
Part
of
the
part
of
that
is
smaller
yards
to
maintain.
You
know
that
that
helps
with
affordability.
AJ
I
grew
up
with
a
yard
they're
great,
but
they're
not
realistic
for
everybody.
So
a
common
lot
park
is
the
situation
that
a
lot
of
people
have
and
we
would
do
our
best.
AJ
We
will
maintain
it
with
the
hoa
and
it
could
potentially
be
a
great
amenity
for
these
people
for
these
homeowners,
as
opposed
to
something
that
is
a
maintenance
nightmare
for
them
economic
conditions.
I
we're
all
aware
of
the
current
economic
conditions.
You
know
we
have
a
team
of
developers
contractor
a
cpa
and
a
realtor,
realtor
and
part
of
our
team
has
actually
been
in
the
lending
world
before
so
we're
well
aware
of
this,
we
still
believe
it's
a
viable
project.
I'm
not
sure
that
is
the
cons.
AJ
The
a
public
audit
is
part
of
planning
and
zoning's.
You
know
responsibilities,
but
we
feel
strongly
that
this
is
a
great
project
and
will
provide
some
affordable
housing
for
the
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
H
L
H
J
This
is
a
a
this
application.
I
support
for
for
lots
of
reasons
I
think.
First
and
foremost,
I
want
to
recognize
our
staff
for
the
hard
work
that
they
put
forth
with
the
pathway
plan.
This
is
implementing
that
and
kudos
to
you
to
the
developer
for
helping
make
that
happen
because
our
canal
system,
I
live
right
underneath
one
and
it
is,
they
are
absolutely
perfect
for
expanding
our
trail
system
and
it's
been
a
long
process
and
so
kudos
all
the
way
around
also
for
the
detached
sidewalk.
J
Thank
goodness
I
wasn't
here
in
july,
because
I
would
have
destroyed
you
for
that
a
kid,
but
thank
you,
the
the
other
things
I
want
to
just
quickly
point
out.
I
did
note
that
there
are
a
number
of
the
mature
trees
that
I
would
hope
that
you
can
keep
as
many
of
those
as
you
possibly
can.
It
takes
a
long
time
for
trees
to
grow,
and
so,
if
you
can
keep
them
up,
that
would
be
great.
Last
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is
that
the
the
economic
slowdown?
J
This
country
saw
three
million
household
whole
that
we
have
yet
to
recover
from,
and
it's
why,
in
major
reason
why
prices
did
what
they
did
so,
where
what
you're
doing
now
building
homes
when
things
are
slowing
down,
is
exactly
what
we
need
to
prevent
that
from
happening
again,
and
so
I
hope
your
finances
are
ordered,
but
we're
not
going
to
go
checking.
J
J
I
I
just
want
to
add
that
I
was
here
the
last
time
you
came
before
us
and
I'm
really
excited
about
this
new
product.
I
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
our
notes
into
consideration.
It
makes
it
really
easy
for
us.
I
I
love
the
mix
of
housing
and
the
open
space
and
the
space
for
pathways
growth
and
pathways.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
this
great
infill
project.
V
Also,
just
want
to
add
to
that
that
the
mixed
housing
that
you
see
now
in
this
plan
is
a
result
of
the
cost
or
neighborhood
master
plan.
So
I
think
it
actually
is
the
callstor
neighborhood,
who
kind
of
called
for
that
increased
density
unless
I
think
the
original
plan
was
individual
houses.
If
I
remember
correctly
so
I
just
wanted
to
call
that
out
and
you
were
referenced
in
that
meeting.
Just
a
heads
up,
somebody
said:
listen,
you
know.
In
the
absence
of
commissioner
danley,
I
want
to
just
speak
for
the
attached
sidewalks,
so.
E
H
H
Okay,
thanks:
okay
press
on
to
item
number,
four
pud
22-40,
rodney
evans
and
partners
at
2312,
south
broadway
ave.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential,
planned
unit.
Development
comprised
of
40
multi-family
units
on
1.1
acres
in
the
c1d,
and
mr
david
moser
from
staff
is
up
again.
AI
Thank
you,
chairman
members
of
the
commission.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
plan
of
residential
development,
comprised
of
40
multi-family
units
located
at
2312,
south
broadway
avenue
on
approximately
1.1
acres
in
a
c-1d
zone.
As
you
can
see
from
the
aerial
photograph,
the
property
is
located
along
the
east
side
of
broadway
avenue.
The
area
is
primarily
made
up
of
detached
single-family
homes
to
the
east
and
a
mix
of
both
commercial
and
residential
along
broadway
avenue
itself
is
also
located
approximately
400
feet
from
ivy
wild
park.
AI
As
you
can
see
from
the
site
plan,
the
development
consists
of
two
three-story
multi-family
buildings
containing
a
mix
of
one
and
two
unit
bedroom
units.
The
project
proposes
40
dwelling
units
with
a
density
of
approximately
36
units.
An
acre
and
the
c1
zone
supports
a
density
of
43.5
units
per
acre.
AI
It
will
comply
with
all
the
setbacks
building
heights
and
provides
all
the
required
parking.
I
would
also
note
that
no
parking
reductions
are
requested
of
this
application.
In
addition,
it
will
provide
two
amenities
which
include
outdoor
seating
with
a
fire
pit,
bocce
ball
court
and
open
areas
located
and
associated
with
the
patios
and
balconies.
The
subject.
Property
is
also
located,
as
previously
mentioned,
400
feet
from
ivy
wild
park
to
the
east,
the
project
design,
locates
the
buildings
along
broadway
avenue
and
away
from
the
residential
neighborhood.
AI
It
steps
the
building
heights
down
on
to
two
stories
on
the
east
half
of
the
property
and
also
include
street
improvements
along
broadway
avenue,
such
as
detached
five
foot,
wide
detached
five
foot
wide
sidewalks,
eight
foot,
landscape
buffer
and
an
improved
bus,
stop
abutting
the
site,
pedestrian
and
vehicle
connectivity
is
provided
with
the
surrounding
area,
which
includes
pedestrian
pathway,
connecting
broadway
avenue
to
the
residential
neighborhood
to
the
east
and
vehicle
connectivity
with
the
commercial
property
adjacent
to
the
south.
In
summary,
the
project
is
consistent
and
complies
with
all
the
required
findings
as
per
code.
AI
These
are
the
building
elevations
proposed
for
the
project.
I
would
just
note,
as
you
can
see,
it
does,
step
that
building
height
down
to
two
stories
on
the
east
half
to
provide
a
better
transition
with
the
residential
neighborhood.
The
planning
team
has
received
public
comments
expressing
concerns
with
the
proposed
development.
Their
concerns
involve
the
time
and
process
associated
time
and
process
associated
with
the
neighborhood
meeting
and
the
amount
of
parking
provided
on
site
to
address
these
concerns.
AI
First,
the
application
was
submitted
six
months
before
the
deadline
of
the
neighborhood
meeting
before
it
expired
and
the
architect
and
the
project
design
can
change
between
the
neighborhood
meeting
and
and
the
application
submittal
provided.
The
overall
project
itself
does
not
change,
which
did
not
happen
here.
Finally,
the
project
provides
the
required
amount
of
parking
on
site
as
per
the
development
code,
and
once
again,
no
parking
reductions
were
requested
with
this.
In
conclusion,
the
planning
team
recommends
approval
of
the
pud.
Thank
you.
R
I,
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
planning
and
zoning
committee
yeah.
I
want
to
thank
david
first
and
foremost,
he
did
a
really
great
job.
He
kind
of
took
all
the
points
that
I
wanted
to
make
on
the
project.
Just
real,
quick
though
I
will
run
through.
I
don't
know
if
I
can
share
my
screen.
AL
R
R
The
the
proposed
40
units,
as
mr
mosher
stated,
equates
to
36.2
units
per
acre
where
the
c1d
zone
would
allow
up
to
48
units
at
that
43.5
units
per
acre
based
on
the
bedroom
count.
The
parking
stalls
required
for
this
project
would
be
47.
R
One
of
the
concerns
from
the
neighbors
was
that
itd
was
not
consulted
on
the
safety
of
this
project.
Achd
deferred
comment
to
itd
due
to
broadway
being
a
state
highway.
I
did
have
conversations
with
the
itd
representative,
where
they
stated
that
they
did
not
have
a
warrant
and
need
for
improvements
to
broadway
along
here
and
really.
R
It
did
a
couple
things
that
accomplished
aligning
with
target
street.
It
also
put
the
parking
as
a
buffer
between
some
residential,
that's
to
the
north
of
the
canal,
right-of-way,
that's
adjacent
on
the
north.
It
also
allowed
the
buildings
to
move
further
from
the
single-family
residential
homes
that
are
to
the
northeast
of
the
property.
R
There
is
a
public
road
adjacent
to
the
east.
We
will
be
connecting
to
that
with
a
pedestrian
pathway
that
you
can
see
here
runs
along
the
north
side
and
then
down
the
east
side
to
an
entry.
There
is
talks
with
achd
there's
an
existing
ada
ramp
on
the
jcent
public
road
that
they
would
like
to
see
improved
with
the
five
foot
area
behind
the
top
of
the
ramp.
R
If
that's
the
case,
we
could
theoretically
connect
the
pedestrian
right
of
way
through
here.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
a
discrepancy
in
where
the
private
lot
immediately
right
here
kind
of
under
the
number
two.
It
has
kind
of
a
strange
little
sliver
that
goes
just
to
the
west
of
that
ramp.
Although
there
is
an
easement
that
encumbers
that
right
there
too,
so
we're
in
discussions
with
them
talking
with
the
easement
holder
as
well
about
whether
we
can
accomplish
that.
But
regardless
we
do
have
a
pedestrian
connection
here.
R
One
of
the
things
that
the
developer
has
committed
to
is
piping,
the
open
canal
that
runs
along
the
north.
That
allows
us
to
do
a
couple
things
we
can
reduce
or
eliminate
the
easement
that
the
irrigation
district
controls
on
the
north
part
of
the
property.
So
we
can
do
a
little
bit
more
extensive
landscaping
and
then,
when
we
locate
our
pathway
along
there,
it
provides
for
additional
safety
for
pedestrians
to
when
they're
walking
through
here
to
get
to
the
park
or
wherever
else
they
want
to
walk.
R
R
Just
east
of
the
adjacent
development
is
leadville
avenue,
which
is
the
low
stress
bikeway,
so
it
does
allow
for
residents
of
this
project,
as
well
as
other
residents
along
broadway
to
access
that
bikeway
kind
of
mid-block
between
iowa
and
linden
further
to
the
south.
R
This
would
be
essentially
the
only
pedestrian
connection
mid-block
unless
you
went
to
iowa
or
down
south
to
linden
to
get
over
to
leadville
david
touched
on
we've
been
working
with
valley
ride
regarding
a
new
bus,
stop
we
are
building
the
pad
right
now
and
then
talking
with
them
about
any
required
shelter.
There
is
a
current
bus,
stop
right
in
front
of
the
property
so
that
just
sort
of
formalizes
this
a
little
bit
more.
R
Let's
see
the
the
concerns
about
parking.
I
think
we're
again
exceeding
the
parking
here.
I
know
with
the
boise
code,
rewrite
it's
looking
at
revising
some
of
the
parking
standards
and
what
this
developer
is
really
trying
to
do
is
bring
an
attainable
product
to
boise
they're,
doing
multiple
other
projects
in
the
boise
area
and
one
of
the
things
that
kind
of
drives
up
costs
of
living
for
future
residents
is
car.
R
It's
having
to
maintain
a
vehicle,
this
is
on
a
main
transit
route
on
broadway,
as
I
already
stated
is
very
close
to
the
low
stress
bikeway
of
leadville.
There's
also
services
within
you
know,
quarter
and
a
half
mile
up
here,
including
a
primary
health
on
the
west
side
of
broadway,
just
south
of
boise
avenue.
R
Let's
see
touching
a
little
bit
on
the
neighborhood
meeting
process,
this
project
did
start
with
a
different
consultant
that
architect
had
held
two
neighborhood
meetings
on
the
project.
R
The
developer,
at
that
point,
decided
to
take
the
project
to
a
different
consultant
team,
a
different
architect
I'll
bring
up
some
renderings.
While
they
talk
about
the
architecture
firm
too,
it's
a
local
firm,
that's
produced
these
updated
elevations.
This
would
be
the
broadway
elevation
while
we
adjusted
the
site
plan.
We,
this
was
in
direct
conversation
with
the
city
as
well
as
idaho
transportation,
department
and
achd.
R
The
intent
of
the
project
has
always
been
a
40
unit
apartment
complex.
This
one
is
just
a
little
bit,
in
my
opinion,
a
little
higher
quality
than
the
original
proposal
that
was
really
just
in
very
early
schematic
design.
This
will
also
go
through
additional
design
review
on
the
project,
so
broadway
frontage.
This
is
interior
to
the
site.
So
this
is
the
amenity
space.
That's
between
the
two
buildings
will
consist
of
some
barbecue
areas
and
a
couple
fire
pits.
R
R
R
We
did
well
well
again,
while
the
previous
consultant
had
done
the
neighborhood
meetings,
they
hired
the
developer,
hired
me
to
provide
the
application
process
for
them.
We
did
meet
the
six-month
cut-off
date
from
the
second
neighborhood
meeting
that
was
held
by
the
previous
consultant
on
november
15th
of
2021,
and
really
the
project
only
changed
in
a
little
bit
of
building
design
and
some
of
the
site
layout.
But
again
the
intent
has
always
been
the
same,
a
40
unit
apartment
complex
that
provides
some
attainable
product
for
boise
and
really
that's
all.
H
Okay,
thanks
ben
we'll
sit
tight
on
questions
for
the
moment
and
check
in
to
see.
I
think
mr
berg
is
online
from
the
southeast
neighborhood
association.
Mr
burger,
you
plan
to
testify
on
this
item.
L
H
V
Question
for
the
city-
and
I
know
david-
you
addressed
this
in
your
presentation,
but
can
you
go
over
the
neighborhood
meeting
process,
one
more
time
like
per
code?
Can
it
if
the
application
changes
it
just
it's
it's
allowed.
It's
just
that.
If
it
I
mean
what
at
what
point
would
there
need
to
be
another
meeting
held.
AI
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
the
neighborhood
meeting
there's
certain
time
frames,
so
it's
like
six
months
or
12
days
before
the
the
cut
off
this
made.
This
was
within
that
time
frame.
As
for
the
changes,
neighborhood
or
the
project
designs
are
almost
anticipated
to
change,
because
the
chance
for
the
applicant
to
present
the
project,
listen
to
the
neighbors
and
then
make
changes
appropriately
to
address
their
concerns.
So
as
long
as
the
overall
project,
in
this
case
the
40
unit,
pud
stays
the
same.
AI
Then
you
know
the
changing
of
the
site
plan
is,
is
to
be
expected,
and
you
know,
as
for
the,
as
for
the
architect,
shifting
the
the
applicant
is
allowed
to
shift
consultants.
You
know,
through
this
process.
H
AI
J
AI
Mr
mr
chair,
members
of
commission,
I
you
are
correct
across
the
way.
I
think
there
is
one
about
target
which
is
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
but
I
believe
that
if,
as
the
bus
stop
or
line
goes
up,
it
takes
a
turn
on
linder
and
then
they
could
get
off
there
too,
which
is
about
a
thousand
feet
away.
Maybe
ben
could
better
explain
that,
because
he's
looked
into
this
and
where
the
nearest
bus
stops
are
for
the
inbound,
inbound
and
outbound
bus
stop.
R
Yeah
david,
mr
chair
and
commissioner
dan
lee,
there
is
a
stop
at
target
and
broadway
immediately
to
the
west.
There
is
also
a
stop
that
is
just
north
of
iowa
street.
That
has
a
hawk
flasher
and
it
is
I'm
on
google
earth
and
I
did
a
path
and
it
says
832
feet
that
would
include
a
crossing
broadway
and
a
hawk
flasher
and
then
a
I
don't
think.
Iowa
has
a
traffic
light,
but
it
does
have
a
pedestrian
cross
and
obviously
a
stop
sign
at
iowa.
H
AL
Good
evening
my
name
is
john
dietrich.
I
don't
own
a
home
at
861,
west
rollins
in
boise.
Before
I
begin
I
want
to
stress,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
have
new
housing
in
the
boise
area.
It's
desperately
needed
and
I
support
new
housing,
but
to
commissioner
finfrock's
point
and
and
in
disagreement
with
with
staff
the
applicant
throughout
this
entire
process.
AL
We
were
held
a
neighborhood
meeting
by
an
outfit
called
casalis
back
on
november
15th,
which
was
five
months
and
27
days
before
the
application
was
filed
for
a
completely
different
project,
completely
different
architecture.
Everything
is
different,
except
the
number
of
40
of
40
units
completely
different,
and
even
so,
there's
best
practices
that
say,
as
the
project
evolves,
you
should
have
follow-up
meetings.
None
of
that
has
occurred,
so
I
don't
see
how
there's
any
way
when
the
architect
is
referred
to
as
the
applicant
and
we
as
layman
in
this
community
don't
know.
AL
The
difference
who
the
applicant
is.
The
applicant
is
rodney,
evans
and
rodney.
Evans
has
yet
to
hold
a
neighborhood
meeting
on
this
project,
so
we
think
that's
a
disservice
and
to
us
as
local
residents
also.
I
would
agree
on
that.
It's
a
very
there's!
Yes,
the
parking
is
48
units
there,
but
you
just
approved
2408
south
broadway,
just
south
of
this,
which
has
woefully
inadequate
parking
and
now
there's
going
to
be
75
new
units
on
this
stretch
of
broadway,
which
has
very
narrow,
sidewalks.
The
bus
stop
is
the
west
side.
AL
AL
So
we're
just
very
concerned
about
all
this
increased
traffic
and
safety
issues
that
can
evolve,
and
I
really
think
it's
doing
a
disservice
to
the
local
residents
to
allow
this
to
go
forward
without
having
a
neighborhood
meeting
fully
explaining
this
new
project
to
us.
AM
Hello,
my
name
is
jason
tucker.
I
live
at
898,
west
rollins
street
in
boise,
idaho
83706.
I
do
on
the
property,
that's
adjacent
on
the
east
side
of
the
project.
I
wanted
to
say
really
quickly
that
do
support.
You
know
your
efforts
in
the
city
of
boise
to
provide
new
housing
to
do
the
pedestrian
connectivity
and
to
provide
you
know,
alternate
forms
transportation
in
and
out
of
our
neighborhoods.
I
think
that's
all
great.
AM
AM
Area
some
other
concerns
that
I
have
is
that
again,
with
the
with
the
minimal
parking
that
is
allowed,
it
does
reduce
the
quality
of
life
at
adjacent
neighborhoods
we've
seen
places
where
it
fills
the
residential
parking
in
front
of
homes,
detracting
from
quality
of
life.
AM
AM
If,
if
there
isn't
going
to
be
another
community
meeting,
I
wanted
to
bring
up
a
couple
of
things
that
this
project
does
include,
leaving
an
existing
fence
that
was
put
out
by
the
previous
owner
of
that
property.
It
is
20
years
old,
it
is
aged,
broken
in
several
sections,
and
I
just
you
know
how
we
could
add
that
in
that
that
doesn't
reflect
well
on
the
development
of
the
project
or
enhanced.
AM
Being
adjacent
to
the
parking
area,
I
am
concerned
about
lighting
that
would
be
during
all
dark
hours.
Those
would
be
shining
directly
onto
my
bedroom
windows
and
so
we'd
like
to
have
some
assurances
in
the
design
that
those
are
you
know,
have
complete,
cut
offs
or
are
below
fence
level.
Something
to
that
effect.
T
Are
you
my
name's
cami
chanus?
T
I
reside
at
845
west
rollins
in
boise,
and
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
your
op
the
opportunity
to
voice
our
concerns
from
the
rollins
and
melrose
neighborhood,
first
off
we're
all
in
favor
of
additional
housing
in
boise,
but
there
and
there's
a
huge
need
for
it,
but
I
think
there
we'd
all
agree
that,
in
order
to
facilitate
this
growth,
the
impacts
and
the
potential
impacts
need
to
be
addressed,
and
I
agree
with
jason
as
far
as
that
parking
and
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
going
to
be
going
on
this
as
based
on
the
revised
apartment
documents,
there
are
51
bedrooms
and
there
are
48
parking
spots,
and
that
includes
two
handicapped
spaces
and
so
hypothetically,
if
there's
two
people
per
room,
there'd
be
102
people
and
48
spots.
T
T
The
narrow
streets
are
very
that
we're
at
capacity
right
now,
and
you
can
also
note
that
on
west
rawlins
there's
no
parking
on
the
north
side
of
the
road,
so
out
of
the
12
homes
that
live
there.
There's
eight
available
parking
spots
on
the
street,
which
is
pretty
minimal,
provides
the
provided
the
revised
sight
line,
drawing
the
depicted
sidewalk
and
southeast
gate.
We
were
talked
about
earlier.
The
access
goes
to
an
alley
in
the
alley.
It's
considered
an
alley
between.
It
connects
the
horseshoe
between
rollins
and
melrose.
T
There'll,
be
little
doubt
that
the
parking
overflow
will
end
up
walking
through
that
gate
into
that
and
parking
in
front
of
our
places,
because
there's
going
to
be
there's
going
to
be
overflow
parking,
the
impacts
would
be
that
there's
little
or
no
street
parking
for
the
current
residents.
Mail
deliveries
will
be
either
diminished
or
eliminated,
unknown
vehicles,
unknown
owners,
noise,
etc.
T
Due
to
the
parking
on
limited
parking
on
melrose
and
rawlins
can't
be
controlled.
This
propulsive
development,
with
its
current
bedroom
to
parking
ratio
stall
ratio-
it's
not
sufficient,
will
greatly
impact
our
already
limited
parking.
If
there's
any
way,
we
can
eliminate
that
gate
and
sidewalk
the
residents
of
the
neighborhood,
it
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
We
thank
you
for
your
time.
L
R
R
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
on
the
record,
so
to
touch
real
quick
on
some
of
the
concerns,
so
the
applicant
for
projects,
it's
typical
for
a
land
planning
firm
to
handle
the
application
duties
for
a
developer.
The
developer
is
the
same.
They
hired
a
previous
architecture,
firm
that
went
through
the
process.
R
They
decided
to
change
to
a
different
architecture,
firm
that-
and
that
happens
a
lot,
but
the
developer
is
the
same
with
their
intent,
always
having
been
to
provide
a
40
unit
apartment
complex
and
to
be
totally
honest
before
the
site
plan
had
an
entry
on
the
south
side
of
the
lot,
which
was
not
compliant
with
itd
requirements.
R
It
also
had
buildings
that
were
closer
to
the
residential
and
had
less
parking.
So
with
this
project,
we've
relocated
the
buildings
closer
to
broadway
and
the
commercial
bank.
That's
to
the
south.
The
parking
exceeds
the
standards
for
the
bedroom
account,
including
the
guest,
the
required
guest
parking
and
has
an
additional
parking
spot
on
the
site.
It's
difficult
because
designing
sites
for
cars
versus
people
is
a
great
way
to
have
a
lot
of
really
large
parking
lots.
R
I
know
that
the
city's
sustainability
goals
moving
forward
are
to
get
away
from
car
centric
development,
especially
when
there's
public
transit
immediately
adjacent
and
a
bike
way.
That's
designated
in
the
pathway
plans,
half
a
block
to
the
east,
the
pathway
connection
and
sidewalk
and
gate
was
a
requirement
from
the
city
to
provide
pedestrian
connectivity
from
the
broadway
corridor
to
the
east.
R
Additionally,
there
is
fire
department
access
through
our
site
to
that
other
site
as
well.
Just
wanted
to
bring
that
up.
The
distance
to
the
to
both
bus
stops,
obviously
northbound.
It's
immediately
adjacent
in
front
the
other
bus
stop
is
835
feet,
I
think,
is
what
I
measured
on
the
path
and
that's
not
as
the
pro
flies.
That's.
R
If
you're
walking
down
the
sidewalk
crossed
broadway
and
then
walked
up
the
west
side
of
broadway,
that's
well
under
the
1320
feet
that
is
required,
and
I
don't
see
in
code
where
there
is
a
reference
to
having
a
bus
stop
in
both
directions.
I
understand
that
that
it's
kind
of
splitting
hairs
I
mean
we're
within
the
distance
so
for
stops
in
both
directions.
So
at
this
point
it's
kind
of
a
moot
point.
R
We
can
definitely
work,
I'm
the
landscape,
architect
of
record
on
or
I'm
sorry,
I'm
working
directly
with
the
landscape
architect
of
record
on
this
project
and
they've
been
very
open
to
recommendations,
I'm
also
a
landscape
architect.
So
we'll
work
on
plant
material,
specifically
at
that
northeast
corner
of
the
property,
to
see
what
we
can
do.
There
is
a
sewer
line
that
runs
along
the
eastern
boundary
of
this
property
that
comes
across
from
longmont
the
dead
end
of
that
to
the
north.
R
So
we'll
work
with
the
sewer
district
about
what
we
can
plant
in
there.
We
do
have
a
larger
planter
bed
at
that
northeast
corner
that
we
will
have
a
class
2
tree
in
as
well
as
other
plant
planters.
Within
the
parking
lot
that
have
class
2
trees,
all
lights
will
be
full
cut
off,
that's
just
a
standard
per
code.
They
won't
have
lights
that
are
shining
onto
adjacent
property.
R
R
When
I
talked
with
the
representative
from
itd,
she
stated
that
they
only
wanted
that
road
to
align
or
our
entry
to
a
line
with
target
street
and
then
for
the
construction,
whoever
the
contractor
is
doing
the
construction
to
file
for
the
application
permits
to
work
within
the
right-of-way,
we're
removing
the
attached
five-foot
sidewalk
and
we're
installing
an
eight-foot
planter
bed
and
a
five-foot
detached
sidewalk
along
broadway,
so
that
does
detach
the
sidewalk,
which
increases
the
pedestrian
comfort
and
safety.
R
H
H
H
Second,
terrific
thank
you
motion
to
approve
from
commissioner
moore
in
a
second
from
commissioner
danley.
Any
discussion.
H
M
M
Ultimately,
you
know
also.
We
have
the
detached
sidewalk.
So
there's
a
comment
about
narrow
sidewalks.
I
distinctly
remember
the
polish
or
the
polish
salon,
property
fighting
for
detached
sidewalk
as
well,
so
we're
slowly
kind
of
getting
there
and
improving
the
sidewalks
on
broadway,
which
is
really
exciting.
I
think
I
agree
commercial
on
broadway
is
is
really
exciting
to
see,
but
you
know
I.
I
don't
think
that
this
is
worse
for
not
having
commercial.
I
think
it's
still
a
valuable
product
and
you
know
in
terms
of
the
existing
prints
in
the
back.
M
J
Mr
chairman,
mr
daily,
I'm
going
to
be
supportive
of
the
motion.
I
think
that
the
applicant
has
done
everything
right.
I
think
the
applicant
has
done
everything
that
we've
asked
them
to
do.
Here's
the
problem
and
I'm
getting
really
really
fed
up
with
this,
and
I
hope
we
can
figure
this
out
right
here
in
the
staff
report.
Finally,
the
applicant
talked
to
itd
about
the
potential
crosswalk
in
this
area,
but
it
didn't
submit
any
formal
comments.
Of
course
they
didn't
right,
they
they're
talking
about.
They
don't
want
right
here.
J
This
is
a
gateway
corridor,
one
of
three
one
of
only
three
three
thousand
feet
away
from
this
location.
A
man
named
ray
oligar
was
killed
a
few
years
ago,
trying
to
cross
the
street
from
the
west
to
the
east.
Just
like
this
bus
stop,
which
is
directly
across
from
this
parcel.
We
have
no
plan,
but
we
continue
to
approve
residential
land
uses
on
broadway
and
hoping
people
will
use
transit
right.
J
I
don't
know
why
we
don't
have
a
plan,
except
for
the
fact
that
this
is
an
itd
route
to
achd's
credit
and
the
city
of
boise's
credit.
We
have
spent
five
million
dollars
plus
on
state
street
plans.
We
know
every
single
inch
of
that
corridor
right
and
we
have
a
plan
of
action
to
get
things
done.
We
have
nothing
on
broadway,
yet
it's
a
gateway
corridor,
I'm
afraid
that
we
keep
doing
this.
We
keep
approving
things
and
we
have
no
way
to
get
first
of
all
compensation
to
get
crosswalks
put
in
right
crosswalks.
J
So
all
the
taxpayers
of
the
city
are
on
the
hook
right,
so
we're
missing
the
mark
on
this.
I
can't
encourage
our
city
enough
to
take
the
lead,
go
to
knock
on
itd's
door,
whatever
we
gotta
do,
but
let's
figure
this
out,
because
it's
not
gonna
get
any
better.
Unless
we
we
just
keep
kicking
the
can.
So
I
know
it's
a
soapbox,
but
frankly
there's
people's
lives
at
stake.
That's
why
it's
a
pretty
good
one
for
me.
H
Okay
thanks,
commissioner
danley
in
their
comments,
thoughts,
okay,
I'll,
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
think
the
applicant's
done
a
nice
job
with
the
property.
I
agree
about
pushing
the
building
up
against
broadway.
I
certainly
agree
with
commissioner
daley's
comments
too
concerns
on
the
crosswalk,
so
yeah.
Let
me
know
what
we
can
do
chris
to
get
some
traction
on
that,
but,
but
I
don't.
I
do
think
that
this
is
an
appropriate
project
on
this
site
right.
H
E
H
P
H
Okay,
real
quick
check
in
it's
after
9
30..
I
apologize
the
time
got
away
from
me.
We
have
three
more
items
tonight.
So
what's
how's
the
commission
feeling
when
I
press
through.
H
H
H
Okay,
all
right
all
right,
all
right,
all
right
I'll.
Take
that
one
back
we'll
take
a
five
we'll
start
with
a
five
minute
break
on
our
agendas.
I
have
number
seven.
This
is
cup
22-27,
lkv
architects
at
4426,
west
catalpa
drive
is
a
modification
to
a
conditional
use
permit
to
build
an
addition
to
an
existing
school,
and
I'm
going
to
be
recusing
myself
on
this
item.
H
I
AK
Good
evening,
members
of
the
commission
this
evening,
the
subject
property
is
located
with
the
northwest
planning
area
at
4426.
West
catalpa
drive
in
the
r1a
zone
catalpa
park
is
adjacent
on
the
west,
with
the
boise
city
canal,
running
adjacent
to
the
north.
Large
residential
lots
are
to
the
east
and
residential
homes
within
the
sycamore
neighborhood
district
are
located
to
the
south.
AK
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
conditional
use
permit
modification
to
construct
a
new
two-story,
25
500
square
foot
addition
to
the
collister
elementary
school.
The
proposed
project
includes
removing
two
portable
classrooms
and
a
1953
single-story
structure
and
replacing
with
the
new
addition.
Additional
improvements
include
new
off
street
parking,
playground,
equipment
and
landscaping.
AK
The
proposed
edition
would
include
six
classrooms,
a
resource
room
media
center,
music
room,
cafeteria
administration,
space
and
gymnasium.
There
will
be
a
connection
to
the
existing
building,
constructed
with
large
glazing
components
and
stucco
to
minimize
the
visual
aspect
of
the
connection
point.
The
general
building
form,
color
and
height,
are
proportionate
and
intend
to
be
respectful
and
complement
the
original
1912
collister
elementary
architecture.
AK
The
boise's,
the
boise
pathways
master
plan,
recommends
a
future
shared
pathway
along
the
bank
of
the
boise
city
canal
to
the
north.
This
connection
was
explored
and
was
determined
to
not
be
viable
at
this
time.
However,
the
site
will
add
ada
compliant
pathways,
that
meander
around
the
open
space
play
area
and
connect
to
the
existing
catalpa
park
pathway.
AK
The
applicant
will
protect
the
existing
mature
trees
as
much
as
possible
as
much
as
possible
and
plant
new
trees
to
compensate
for
those
requiring
removal.
The
proposed
landscape
plan
does
provide
some
mitigation,
but
most
of
the
loss
will
have
to
cannot
all
be
satisfied.
On-Site
due
to
site
constraints,
so
off-site
planting
is
proposed.
AK
AK
AH
AH
I
Thank
you
great
next,
we'll
just
pause
for
a
second
to
see
if
we
have
a
representative
from
the
cholesterol
neighborhood
association
to
speak.
I
AG
Okay
good
evening,
my
name
is
esther
steha
and
I
reside
at
3901
north
cambria
way.
I
speak
this
evening
on
behalf
of
the
callister
neighborhood
association.
AG
There
are
a
few
remaining
historic
public
structures
within
the
collister
neighborhood,
notably
the
110
year
old,
collister
elementary
school.
We
appreciate
the
boise
school
district's
effort
of
working
with
preservation,
idaho,
the
historic
preservation
committee
in
shippo
and
preserving
the
historic
arctic
architecture
of
the
century
old
school.
AG
The
association
strongly
supports
the
removal
of
existing
parking
along
catalpa
drive.
As
noted
in
the
staff
report,
conditions
for
approval
design
considerations
should
be
made
for
the
new
section
that
incorporate
natural
light
throughout
the
building,
the
ability
to
open
windows
and
modern
energy
aspects
like
solar
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
comment.
I
V
AK
Sure
doesn't
say
chairman
I'll,
take
it
okay
and
members
of
the
commission.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
So,
as,
according
to
our
pathways
plan,
there
was
a
path
designated
along
the
northern
boundary
of
the
canal.
That
would
connect
basically
towards
the
east.
AK
As
we
explored
that
viable
connection,
we
went
out
on
site
and
kind
of
walked
that
area
the
area
is
heavily
vegetated.
A
lot
of
trees
would
have
to
be
removed
in
order
to
put
in
some
kind
of
pathway
along
that
canal.
There's
also
some
issues
with
some
private
property
that
the
canal
would
meander
through
so
making
that
a
viable
connection
at
this
point
in
time
is
not
really
attainable,
since
those
properties
do
not
look
to
be
redeveloped
in
the
near
future.
AK
I
Okay,
seeing
no
further
questions
we'll
move
to
public
testimony
on
this
item.
Do
we
have
anybody
in
the
house
that
would
like
to
testify?
No,
if
there's
anybody
online.
That
would
like
to
testify
on
this
item.
Please
go
ahead
and
virtually
raise
your
hand.
I
Okay,
seeing
no
public
testimony
for
this
item.
The
item
is
now
back
before
the
oh,
I'm
sorry,
you
have
an
opportunity
for
a
five-minute
rebuttal.
If
you'd
like
it
yeah,
please
go
ahead.
AH
Thank
you,
members
of
the
commission,
I'd
like
to
go
over
a
couple
of
those
items
that
was
brought
up
recently,
so
one
of
the
items
paying
more
respect
to
the
historical
nature
of
the
existing
century
old
building.
We
did
do
some
investigation
of
restoring
some
of
the
original
brick
work.
That
was
on
the
original
facade
and
it
turned
out
that
you
cannot
remove
that
stucco.
AH
That
was
applied
in
the
48
edition,
and
so
the
approach
now
is
to
really
blend
the
stucco
solution
with
the
with
a
masonry
solution,
and
if
you
can
see
on
the
on
the
elevation
on
the
south
side,
which
is
catalpa
drive,
we
do
that
in
a
subtle
pattern
and
working
with
shippo,
you
know,
gave
dominance
to
the
original
structure
and
cascade
cascaded
back
along
the
south
property
line
to
again
show
a
subordination
to
that
original
building
that
parking
lot
on
the
south
side.
AH
Z
AH
E
I
Thank
you.
Okay,
with
that,
the
public
portion
of
the
hearing
is
closed,
and
the
item
is
before
the
commission.
J
I
Second,
create
a
second
from
commissioner
moore
any
discussion,
commissioner.
J
Brief
great
love
it
city
of
boys,
earth
school
district
should
be
commended
for
reinvesting
in
this
school
and
not
deciding
to
pull
up
and
move
into
a
big
parcel
somewhere
on
the
edge
of
town.
So
this
is
exactly
what
we
need
more
of
one
thing,
I
would
encourage
you.
I
think
I
see
an
opportunity,
maybe
especially
with
the
historic
part,
is
it
looks
like
the
the
gymnasium
wall
that
faces.
J
I
think
it's
culture,
whichever
is
pretty
blank,
that's
a
pretty
awesome
spot
for
a
mural,
and
it
may
be
something
with
the
historic
nature
and
the
desires
of
the
neighborhood
association.
Somehow
some
way
be
great.
Come
together,
make
it
make
that
a
really
cool
thing
that
that
you
know
celebrates
what
we're
shooting
for
so
otherwise
great
project,
and
thank
you
for
being
part
of
it.
M
And
just
to
add
to
that,
I
think
it's
a
great
project
and
the
fact
that
they
weren't
required
to
meet
with
chapeau
or
anything
like
that
preservation,
idaho,
but
they
still
did
it
anyways
kind
of
shows
some
respect
to
the
historic
structure.
So
I
think
it's
very
well
done.
I
Okay,
so
we
have,
is
there
sorry?
Is
there
any
further
discussion?
No
okay,
great!
We
have
a
motion
on
the
table
to
approve
cop
22-27
at
4426.
West
catalpa
drive.
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
vote.
I
AA
Good
evening,
mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
the
item
before
you
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
social
event
center,
with
a
parking
reduction
on
2.89
acres
located
at
6202
west
state
street
in
a
c4d
zone.
The
event
center
is
proposed
within
an
existing
vacant
tenant
space
that
complies
with
all
required
setbacks
of
the
zone.
The
proposed
use
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
which
is
comprised
of
a
diverse
mix
of
uses
along
state
street.
AA
A
parking
reduction
is
requested
to
reduce
the
number
of
required
parking
spaces
on
the
site
from
85
to
82..
The
planning
team
supports
the
requested
reduction,
as
it
is
minor
in
the
parking
study
provided
by
the
applicant
demonstrates
that
there
is
sufficient
parking
on
the
site
to
support
the
existing
xamls
and
the
proposed
event
center.
AA
Written
comments
were
received
from
one
neighbor
of
the
site,
who
expressed
concern
regarding
hours
of
operation
and
noise
impacts,
recommended
conditions
of
approval,
prohibit
amplified
noise
outside
restrict
noise
generated
by
the
event
center
for
being
plainly
audible
from
adjacent
properties
and
limit
the
hours
of
operation
of
the
event
center
from
9
am
to
10
p.m,
sunday
through
thursday
and
9
a.m,
to
11
p.m,
on
fridays
and
saturdays.
To
help
mitigate
these
concerns,
the
project
complies
with
all
cup
requirements
and
no
public
agencies
have
expressed
opposition
to
the
proposal.
L
AN
Good
evening,
commissioners,
I'm
thomas
miklich
architect
address
is
1014
south
for
point
street
boise,
idaho,
83706.
AN
And
I
think
the
main
problem
or
of
concern
would
be
the
12-foot,
and
since
the
representative
for
zamzos
is
here,
I'm
going
to
give
the
floor
to
her
alyssa
and
she
could
take
it
from
here.
Thank
you.
AO
AO
Right
now
in
front
of
the
property.
There
is
a
sidewalk,
but
we
know
there's
going
to
be
expansion
of
state
street,
and
so
they
don't
know
what
that
looks
like
or
what
any
of
the
details
are.
So
they
don't
want
to
commit
to
putting
in
this
work
and
then
getting
reimbursed
from
ccdc
when
they're
not
sure
exactly
what
the
whole
plan
is
and
what
that's
going
to
look
like.
AO
H
Okay,
very
good,
okay,
we'll
move
on
see
if
we
have
any
representative
from
the
college
or
neighborhood
association.
H
AN
I'm
sorry,
oh
sorry
and
I
was
muted
yeah.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
condition
of
this
12-foot
pathway
is
not
tied
directly
to
getting
a
certificate
of
occupancy
to
occupy
the
building,
because
we
feel
they're
two
separate
things
and
therefore
they
should
be
able
to
open
and
do
business.
And
then
this
we
can.
This
12-foot
pathway
could
be
addressed
afterwards,
but
it
should
not
be
conditional
on
their
having
to
use
the
space
and
that's
that's
all.
I
have
to
say
right.
There.
L
H
All
right,
thank
you
for
that
yep.
I
don't
think
we
have
anybody
from
the
collister
neighborhood
association
with
us.
L
H
J
AA
AA
In
addition
to
that,
they
are
requesting
a
parking
reduction
for
this
application.
Staff
believes
that
providing
the
pedestrian
and
bicycle
facilities
is
supported
by
the
comprehensive
plan,
which
is
one
of
the
findings
for
the
conditional
use
permit
and
is
also
appropriate
due
to
the
parking
reduction.
L
H
H
AG
Great,
so
this
comment
is
so
my
name
is
esther
seha.
I
reside
at
3901
north
cambria
way.
This
comment
is
a
comment
as
a
resident,
a
longtime
resident
of
boise,
and
I
encourage
the
commission
to
require
that
sidewalk.
AG
Along
that
stretch,
we
I
live
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
see
people
walking
a
long
stay
throughout
our
neighborhoods
and
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
meeting
space,
a
community
space
for
residents
within
our
area
and
those
outside
of
our
area,
we
need
to
provide
different
modes
for
folks
to
get
there
safely.
AG
H
Okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
public
testimony.
The
applicant
has
a
couple
minutes
to
rebut
at
this
time.
AN
Yes,
this
is
thomas
again.
I
would
like
to
reply
to
that
that
the
sidewalk
was
pathway.
AN
Yes,
it'll
be
a
thing,
but
since
there's
really
no
time
frame
on
it
at
this
point,
it
shouldn't
hold
up
the
the
project
itself,
so
I
think
it
just
needs
to
be
discussed
what
time
frame
we're
talking
about
with
this
pathway
needs
put
put
in
there's
already
a
path
there
in
a
way.
This
is
straight,
you
know
so
anyway.
AN
Maybe
alyssa
has
more
to
say
on
this,
but
that's
what
point
I
was
just
wanted
to
make.
Thank
you.
AO
Hi,
yes,
I
would
like
to
add
to
that.
So
there
is
currently
a
sidewalk
in
front
of
the
property
that
goes
all
the
way
over
towards
hendrick's
vet
right
next
to
us
as
well.
AO
The
issue
that
we
have
right
now
is
they
don't
know
the
time
frame,
and
so
that
could
hold
up.
You
know
even
longer
for
them
to
be
able
to
use
that
building
space
as
well
as
what
the
whole
expansion
looks
like
for
state
street.
So
they
don't
have
all
the
details
from
achd
to
know
what
that
looks
like
how
long
it'll
take
and
then
it
was
in
the
process
that
they
would
have
to
pay
for
it
and
then
they
would
get
reimbursed,
and
so
just
that
whole
time
frame
was
their
concern.
I
H
Matt,
commissioner,
stead.
I
I
moved
to
approve
cp
22-3
with
all
the
terms
and
conditions,
as
stated
in
the
staff
report,.
J
I
H
I
Yeah
we
require
pathways
whenever
possible,
we're
big
on
sidewalks
we've
mentioned
that
tonight,
as
well
as
most
nights,
so
I
definitely
support
that.
Commission
I
mean
that
condition
same
as
we
have
required
it
for
other
developments
in
the
area
and
I'm
sure
the
staff
can
help.
You
determine
the
timeline
required
for
that,
but
it
is
definitely
a
part
of
the
permit
to
for
this
project.
J
I
just
I
think,
it's
important
to
note
a
sidewalk
and
a
pathway
are
two
different
things.
A
sidewalk
is
for
walking
up
pathways
for
walking,
running,
riding,
rolling,
etc,
and
so
what
we
are
trying
to
do
along
the
state
street
corridor
is
build
a
system
of
a
pathway
that
allows
especially
bicyclists
to
ride
off
of
state
street
and
to
ride
on
a
protected
facility,
thereby
allowing
them
to
patron
businesses
just
like
this,
and
so
with
the
expansion
of
the
road,
which
is
a
separate
argument
altogether.
H
H
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
cop
22-3.
The
motion
was
by
commissioner
stead.
The
second
by
commissioner
danley.
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
vote.
P
H
Okay,
thank
you
and
last,
but
certainly
not
least,
we
have
item
number
12
tonight,
cva
22-15
and
elise,
peace
1614,
north
23rd
street.
This
is
a
variance
variances
to
encrypt
the
rear
step
back
and
reduce
the
required
backup
space
for
an
accessory
structure
over
1
000
square
feet
on
0.1
for
acoustic
r1
ch
zone,
we're
going
to
hear
from
staff
first
jesse
lyle.
AP
Mr
chair
commissioners,
the
item
for
you
is
cba
2215,
an
application
for
variances
to
encroach
into
the
rear
setback
and
reduce
the
required
backup
space
for
an
accessory
structure
over
1000
square
feet
on
0.14
acres
located
at
1614
north
23rd
street
in
an
r1ch
zone,
the
applicant
proposes
to
add
a
second
story
for
additional
living
space
onto
an
existing
garage.
This
addition
will
increase
the
square
footage
of
the
building
to
over
1000
square
feet.
Thus
it
is
no
longer
eligible
for
reduced
setbacks.
AP
U
H
U
Feel
like
I'm
on
survivor,
my
name
is
nathaniel.
Peace
annalisa
is
my
wife.
The
address
is
1614
north
north
23rd
street
boise,
idaho.
You
know
I
am
in
agreement
with
the
staff's
recommendation.
U
Just
wanted
to
add
that
again
we
are
trying
to
just
build
upon
an
existing
footprint,
not
tear
something
down
start
something
new,
make
something
bigger
just
existing
footprint
and
that's
kind
of
the
key
for
us
and
this
whole
process.
We've
tried
to
be
really
respectful
of
our
neighbors
with
letters
and
conversations
and
in
fact,
actually
our
architect
complimented
us.
U
He
said
he's
never
had
every
as
somebody
that
went
out
and
got
every
single
neighbor
to
sign
off
and
say
we're
good
with
this,
because
we
really
wanted
to
make
a
concerted
effort
to
have
them
be
part
of
the
process
and
actually
be
part
of
the
design,
everything
so
that
we
could
respect
their
especially
those
behind
us.
Just
you
know
them
because
we're
their
neighbor.
So
that's.
H
AQ
Good
evening,
commissioners,
my
name
is
eric
hagan.
I
live
at
809,
north
18th
street,
I'm
the
planning
and
zoning
chair
for
the
north
end
neighborhood
association,
I'm
also
a
licensed
architect
and
do
a
lot
of
adus
and
additions,
including
projects
in
the
north
end.
The
northern
neighborhood
association
board
board
of
directors
is
actually
comprised
of
network
members,
which
includes
legal
professionals,
healthcare
professionals,
lobbyists,
data
analysts
planning
and
zoning
professional
who
works
at
vsu
and
another
licensed
architect
as
our
board
president.
Among
others.
AQ
Most
of
these
people
have
been
living
and
practicing
in
the
north
end
neighborhood
for
decades.
So
I
just
sort
of
prefaced
that,
as
basically
when
we
look
at
a
project
in
the
north
end,
there's
some
very
experienced
professionals
that
are
reviewing
these
applications
as
they
come
through.
AQ
That
being
said,
nina
could
not
come
to
consensus
on
cba
22-15
and,
as
such,
nina
does
not
support
nor
oppose
it.
However,
even
though
concern
was
raised
about
the
lack
of
22
feet
of
backup
space
in
the
excess
of
the
1000
square,
foot
accessory
structure
and
the
proximity
of
the
rear
property
line
has
been
a
topic
of
discussion,
while
the
22
feet
of
backup
space
in
the
rear
property
line,
setback
is
an
existing
structure
issue.
AQ
Adapting
the
second
floor
plan
to
follow
a
fall
under
1
000
square
feet
is
a
is
a
distinct
possibility
along
these
lines.
Nina
is
concerned
about
the
increasing
variance
requests
and
recommended
approvals
of
such
in
the
continuing
and
growing
precedence
of
this
setting.
In
light
of
the
fact
that
the
zoning
code
rewrite
does
not
appear
to
be
changing
much
in
relation
to
accessory
structure,
size
limitations,
yard
setbacks
or
backup,
space
it'll
continue
to
follow
the
planning
to
planning
and
zoning,
to
uphold
the
zoning
code
requirements
or
open
the
door
for
more
variance
requests.
AQ
This
is
a
difficult
thing
for
us
to
kind
of
traverse,
as
licensed
professionals
that
are
generally
held
to
the
zoning
code
or
the
building
codes,
but
also
as
ones
who
are
also
trying
to
give
our
clients
what
we
want
by
applying.
For
these
variances
and
then
also
on
the
flip
side
of
that
to
try
to
be
a
representative
of
the
neighborhood
that
many
are
for
many
are
against
these
things.
Many
of
our
constituency
comes
to
us
and
complains
about
the
fact
that
they
got
denied
the
variance
a
couple
years
ago.
AQ
H
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
hagen
questions.
U
Thank
you.
I
I
think
this
this
had
come
up
earlier
in
the
process
and
one
of
the
the
key
points
just
that
that
we
wanted
to
make
was
there's
the
hardship
factor,
which
is
that
the
structure
is
there,
and
that
was
something
that
we
contemplated
quite
strongly
in
the
beginning
was
well.
U
If
we
don't
want
to
pursue
this
variance
because
we
know
it's
another
hurdle
we
wouldn't
have
had,
we
would
have
been
building
by
now
right,
but
from
a
financial
perspective
and
a
homeowner
perspective,
it
would
have
been
just
as
costly
to
start
a
project
and
try
to
accommodate
with
the
existing
structure
within
the
variants
than
to
just
work
with
what
we
have.
So
I
I
guess
I
would
question
anybody.
U
If
they
had
the
opportunity,
the
structure
was
there,
you've
got
a
family
of
four,
you
have
aging
parents,
you
have
extended
family
and
there's
different
purposes.
You
could
use
this
for.
Why?
Wouldn't
we
that's
what
made
me
just
ultimately,
why?
Wouldn't
we
and
and
it's
going
to
cost
the
same,
if
not
less,
to
use
the
structure,
so
maybe
I'm
too
logical
and-
and
I
just
don't
know
this
whole
process
very
well,
but
that
that
is
the
primary
reason
for
it
and
again
we
tried
to
be
respectful
of
of
our
neighborhood.
U
I
I'm
pleased
to
hear
feedback
from
the
neighborhood
association,
but
we're
very,
very
respectful
of
the
whole
entire
process
with
our
neighbors.
So
we
did
what
we
thought
was
right.
Okay,
thanks.
H
V
Moved
to
approve
cva
22.15,
along
with
the
standard
and
recommended
conditions
of
approval.
Second,.
H
V
V
As
the
applicant
pointed
out,
the
house
was
built
in
1941
before
the
code
was
written
or
established,
and
so
I
think
we
have
a
non-conformity,
that's
existing
right
now
and
I
think
if
we
can
grant
the
variance
it
will
allow
at
least
the
applicant
to
be
compliant
with
the
parking.
V
So
for
that
reason,
I
think
we
should
support
the
variants.
M
M
Things
like
that,
and
I
think
you
know
you
see
a
lot
of
variances
in
the
north
end,
probably
for
that
very
reason
to
try
to
keep
some
materials
out
of
landfills
in
this
particular
case.
It's
the
vast
majority
of
this
particular
structure
is
not
going
to
be
in
a
landfill
where
it
could
be,
and
I
think
that's
significant
and
every
little
bit
every
little
garage
and
things
like
that
that
we
do
that
with
they
start
to
add
up,
and
it
really
starts
to
make
a
difference.
H
Okay,
pretty
good
any
other
comments.
Yeah
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion
as
well
yeah
and
just
real
quick
to
sound
off
on
some
of
mr
hagan's
comments.
You
know,
I
think
yeah
these
are
tough.
You
know
this
is
why
this
body
is
here,
and
we
have
this
process
right.
Is
the
code
is
not
really
black
and
white?
There's
a
lot
of
gray,
and
I
think
in
this
case
the
applicant
did
a
nice
job
of
considering
their
options
worked
with
the
neighbors
came
to
a
nice
solution,
but
I
get
it
I
mean
I
get.
H
Sometimes
we
deny
variances
and
there's
a
thousand
reasons.
Why
there's
a
thousand
reasons?
Why
is
to
approve
other
variances
right?
So
it's
it's
challenging.
I
think
in
this
case
it
makes
sense.
I
agree
with
commissioner
moore's
comments
about
the
sustainability
factor
and
utilizing
what's
there
and
and
making
us
a
successful
project
with
that
said,
I
think
that
this
this
commission
is
open
to
feedback
from
nina
in
particular
because
it
is
complicated
and
difficult
in
the
north
end
and
space
is
at
a
premium.