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From YouTube: Planning and Zoning Commission
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March 7, 2022
A
All
right,
y'all
welcome
to
the
work
session
on
kevin's
last
day.
I
did
have
to
get
that
on
recording
I
know
so
here
we
go
yeah.
All
we
have
to
do
is
go
through
the
agenda,
so
we've
got
a
it's
a
time.
Extension
for
a
pd
recommending
approval.
I
can
go
on
consent
number
one.
We've
got
a
pud
and
a
variance
for
a
102
multi-family
units,
a
child
care
facility
and
a
height
exception
on
arthur
and
state.
We
are
recommending
approval.
A
B
D
A
Thank
you
number
four,
so
cup2167,
it's
a
conditional
use
permit
to
convert
an
existing
building
into
a
martial
arts
studio
on
park
center.
We
are
recommending
approval
and
we
can
try
for
consent
on
that.
One
number:
five:
cva
22
3:
it's
a
variance
to
encroach
into
the
front
yard
setback
for
a
residential
garage
on
greenwood
circle.
We
are
recommending
approval
on
that
and
can
try
for
consent
as
well.
A
Number
six,
cop,
2155
and
cva
2156
is
conditional
use
permit
for
a
drive
up
establishment,
with
a
variance
for
the
drive
up
window
to
encroach
into
the
200-foot
residential
setback.
We
are
recommending
approval,
but
there
is
neighborhood
opposition,
so
we
will
need
to
hear
that
number
seven
is
a
pud
for
16
multi-family
units
on
etheridge
lane.
A
Item
eight
is
a
pud
and
subdivision
on
garden
street
for
two
single-family
homes.
Wait
right!
Three,
there's
three!
That's
a
mistake
on
there,
apologies
y'all!
So
it's
three
single
family
homes.
We
are
recommending
approval
and
we
can
try
for
consent
on
that
number.
Nine
has
a
rezone,
pud
and
sub
for
17
dwelling
units
comprised
of
detached
and
attached
single
family
homes
on
broadway
or
requesting
a
rezone
to
r2d.
A
C
G
G
C
A
All
right
good
evening,
everybody
and
welcome
to
the
boise
city
planning
and
zoning
commission
public
hearing
a
few
things
to
start
out
with
for
tonight's
proceedings.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
virtually
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak
as
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you'll
be
called
upon
and
unmuted.
A
There
is
a
chat
function
in
zoom,
but
this
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
Our
procedure
for
public
hearings
begins
with
a
presentation
from
the
planning
team,
then
we'll
go
to
the
applicant
and
then
the
representative
representative
of
the
registered
neighborhood
association,
followed
then
by
questions
from
the
commission.
A
After
that,
we
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
are
in
person
who
then
who
signed
up
or
on
the
sign
up
sheet
in
advance
and
then
anyone
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually.
If
you
are
attending
through
your
telephone,
you
can
type
in
star
9.
To
raise
your
hand,
each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
3
minutes
for
testimony.
We
are
stripped
with
this
time
as
it
is
limited
in
code.
A
C
C
Any
decision
made
tonight
may
be
appealed
to
the
city
council,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
That's
why
it
is
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight.
C
We
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
if
there
is
no
public
opposition,
the
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
that
are
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion.
Without
further
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will
hold
a
full
public
hearing
in
the
order
just
detailed
a
few
minutes
ago
with
staff,
applicant
neighborhood
association
and
then
the
public
testimony.
D
H
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
all
right.
Well,
let's
start
out,
I've
got
a
fairly
full
agenda
this
evening
and
we'll
start
with
building
our
consent
agenda.
Without
objection,
I'd
like
to
place
the
meeting
minutes
from
our
february
7,
I
guess
it
would
be
the
work
session
minutes
and
our
february
7th
commission
meeting
minutes
and
then
the
february
18th
commission
meeting
minutes
on
the
consent
agenda.
Mr
chairman,
sorry,
commissioner,
mooney.
G
A
staff
question
about
the
sticky
interactions
that
we
discussed
regarding
the
transportation
path
is
what
we
ended
up,
calling
it
in
the
minutes
on
the
west
side
there
of
that
development
going
up
trebuchet
street.
What's
what's
the
pro
process
of
going
forward
with
that,
do?
Will
that
be
a
condition
of
approval?
That's
coordinated
with
achd.
You
know
the
standard
friction
between
the
land
use
agency
and
the
highway
department
right
right.
A
C
D
C
C
C
C
At
1501
north
garden
street,
this
is
a
conditional
use
permit
and
sorry
conditional
use
permit
for
planned
residential
development
of
three
single-family
homes
on
0.42
acres
is
the
applicant
in
attendance
this
evening
great
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
Yes,
okay,
great,
and
is
there
anyone
in
attendance
tonight
they'd
like
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
project.
D
C
J
J
C
D
H
D
H
C
C
Sawtooth
development
at
the
project
address
is
8710
south
pleasant
valley.
This
is
an
annexation
of
81.23
acres
with
an
m1da
within
an
m1da
zone.
They
are
requesting
deferral
to
april
4th
of
this
year.
Is
there
anyone
in
attendance
tonight
that's
here
to
testify
on
that
project,
and
you
cannot
attend
on
april
4th.
J
C
D
C
C
C
D
C
Okay,
great
thank
you
with
that.
We
will
jump
back
into
new
business
now.
Our
first
item
this
evening
is
item
number
one
pud
22-4
and
cba
22-2.
This
is
gglo
at
2426
north
arthur
street.
A
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
mixed-use
development
comprised
of
102
multi-family
units,
child
care
facility
and
a
high
exception
on
1.14
acres
in
a
c-2-d
zone,
and
first
we're
going
to
hear
from
caitlin
manoosh
with
staff.
F
F
F
F
State
street
is
a
designated
high
priority
corridor
and
the
site
is
located
within
a
designated
area
of
significant
change,
where
higher
density
developments
are
anticipated
and
encouraged
to
support,
transit
use
and
surrounding
commercial
uses.
Taft
elementary
is
located
on
the
east
side
of
the
site,
and
the
project
will
provide
a
pathway
to
the
existing
community
garden.
F
F
F
The
applicant
is
complying
with
all
setbacks.
From
the
current
property
lines,
a
variance
request
is
included
to
allow
the
building
to
remain
in
the
proposed
location.
If
property
lines
shift
due
to
right-of-way
dedication
and
achd
has
required
right-of-way
dedication
to
two
feet.
Behind
the
12-foot
wide
multi-use
pathway,
that's
being
installed
along
state
street.
F
The
height
exception
request
is
to
allow
an
overall
building
height
of
57
feet,
6
inches
and
mechanical
equipment
and
screening
height
up
to
61
feet.
The
maximum
height
of
the
zone
is
45
feet,
but
with
the
housing
bonus
ordinance
incentive,
a
maximum
height
of
55
feet
is
allowed,
except
for
the
10
feet.
Beyond
the
north
step
back,
the
proposed
61
foot
tall
entry
element
is
located
adjacent
to
state
street
and
will
have
no
negative
impacts
on
the
adjacent
properties.
F
Written
testimony
included
concerns
regarding
density
and
height
of
the
project,
as
well
as
traffic
and
parking,
and
in
addition
to
the
letters
in
your
packet,
we
did
receive
an
additional
email
testimony
from
catherine
polizzari
that
was
sent
on
time
but
got
caught
in
our
email
filters,
and
there
were
similar
concerns
in
that
email.
To
other
comments
that
included
traffic
parking
and
height.
F
F
Late
correspondence
received
included,
updated
solid
waste
comments
which
approved
the
solid
waste
design
along
arthur
street
and
also
an
updated
achd
letter
that
also
approved
the
updated,
solid
waste
design
and,
in
conclusion,
the
project
will
comply
with
all
approval
criteria
and
required
findings
in
boise
city
code
and
fulfills.
The
goals
and
policies
in
blueprint,
boise
and
the
planning
team
recommends
approval
subject
to
the
recommended
conditions,
and
we
also
have
deanna
dupuis
here
with
the
housing
and
community
development
division.
If
any
of
you
have
questions
regarding
the
land
trust.
Thank
you.
L
M
With
smr
development,
it's
520
west,
idaho,
here
in
boise.
Thank
you
for
having
me
thank
you
for
having
the
us
and
hearing
this
important
project
caitlin.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation,
but
also
for
the
staff
report.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
read
it
obviously,
and
I
think
it's
very
thorough,
so
I'm
going
to
try
my
hardest
to
take
the
most
advantage
of
your
time
by
not
repeating
what
caitlyn
said,
either
in
the
staff
report
or
in
her
in
her
presentation,
so
state
and
arthur
I'll.
M
M
Next
slide,
please
so
just
very
quickly
I'll
go
over
the
project
as
well
as
a
history
and
timeline,
and
then
excuse
me
the
partnership,
history
and
timeline,
and
then
overall
development
goals
and
I'll
be
brief.
Next
slide,
please
so
the
pacific
companies
caleb
rupp,
the
ceo,
is
here
in
the
audience.
If
you
have
questions
for
him,
he's
the
primary
developer,
smr
development,
joint
venturing
with
him
and
gglo
the
partner
john
hall
and
the
project
manager
ben
ben
white
are
here
today
as
well.
M
But,
as
you
can
see,
all
of
the
entities
on
this
team
have
quite
a
bit
of
experience
both
around
the
country
with
pacific
over
14
000,
affordable
housing
units
have
been
developed
by
them
and
are
currently
owned
by
them,
so
they
own
and
operate
their
units.
You
see
a
dairy
manor
on
the
top
new
path,
the
state's
first
permanent
supportive
housing
development
developed
by
pacific,
the
martha
and
ash
street
townhomes,
both
smr
and
or
gglo
played
a
role
in
which
are
workforce
missing
middle
units
for
the
community
so
of
those
14
000
units.
M
Roughly
1500
are
here
in
the
state
of
idaho
that
the
pacific
company
has
developed,
constructed
and
operates
next
slide.
Please
quick
project
history.
I
won't
go
into
a
lot
of
detail,
but
deanna
dupuy
with
the
housing
and
community
development
department.
Slash
pds,
is
here.
The
city
purchased
this
site
back
in
the
summer
of
2020
for
the
purpose
of
providing
affordable
housing
to
the
community.
M
They
did
a
community
outreach
process
and
then
they
did
a
request
for
proposals
by
which,
in
the
summer
of
2021,
the
pacific
companies,
smr
and
gglo,
the
team
that
we
put
together
were
chosen
to
develop
this
site
in
partnership
with
the
city.
So
after
that
we
did
a
due
diligence
process
worked
with
with
the
site.
M
You
can
kind
of
see
in
this
slide
the
outline
of
the
purple
urban
renewal
district.
I
know
you
all
saw
it
at
the
end
of
last
year,
but
it
just
requires
or
suggests
that
this
area
is
an
area
of
change
and
should
be
a
multimodal
transit
hub,
and
so
that's
what
we're
trying
to
promote
here
next
slide.
Please
there's
some
kind
of
the
the
existing
site.
M
As
you
can
see,
it's
vacant
that
smokey
davis
no
longer
exists
there
there's
power
lines,
there's
an
irrigation,
ditch
currently,
there's
not
separated
sidewalks
on
either
on
state
street
and
there's
no
sidewalks
along
arthur
this.
The
colored
photograph
to
the
bottom
right
is
an
image
of
the
connection
that
currently
exists
with
the
community
gardens
that's
in
the
softball
fields
or
baseball
fields
at
taft.
M
M
So
this
slide
has
a
lot
of
words.
I
won't
read
them
all
to
you,
but
I
think
the
design
and
development
goals
were
really
trying
to
align
with
what
the
city
of
boise
and
the
housing
land
trust
requested
of
us,
which
was
a
to
maximize
housing,
knowing
that
there
was
a
great
need
for
this
type
of
housing
items,
a
b,
c
d,
there
kind
of
speak
to
that
need.
M
This
is
just
the
ground
floor.
I
think
caitlyn
showed
you
this,
but
you
can
see.
We've
got
substantial
indoor
secured
bike
parking.
The
orange
area
represents
the
1500
to
1600
roughly
square
feet
of
daycare
facility,
as
well
as
the
outdoor
area.
That's
required
to
operate
a
daycare
facility,
some
common
spaces
and
then
the
87
covered
parking
spots
with
access
off
of
arthur
the
second
through
fifth
floor.
M
M
Next
slide,
please,
so
we
did
hear
a
lot
of
neighborhood
concerns.
I
suspect
we
will
hear
more
this
evening,
and
I
want
to
be
very
straightforward
in
that
it
is
change
and
we
did.
We
did
try
to
meet
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
we
felt
we
were
able
to.
One
of
those
is
that
connection
between
the
neighborhood,
the
schoolyard
and
that
community
garden,
the
other
one,
the
other
you
know
obvious
concern
is
the
parking
needs
and
increased
traffic.
M
There
was
also
an
interesting
concern
from
a
lot
of
the
folks
that
that
spent
a
lot
of
time
at
the
community
garden,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
invasive
species
and
weeds
that
are
kind
of
taking
over
the
garden.
So
our
landscaping
plan
addresses
that,
and
we
did
kind
of
beef
it
up
to
try
to
address
that.
M
C
C
N
Okay,
my
name
is
katie
decker.
My
address
is
5001
west
mimosa
street
okay
and
I'm
the
president
of
the
veterans
park.
Neighborhood
association.
Can
you
okay,
I'd
like
to
open
by
acknowledging
that
the
neighborhood
association
appreciates
the
many
positive
aspects
of
this
project
and
the
thoughtful
design
features
that
it
incorporates?
N
But
that
being
said,
we'll
use
our
time
today
to
focus
primarily
on
the
areas
of
improvement
that
we're
requesting.
I'm
also
aware
that
affordable
housing
also
often
creates
a
next
slide.
Please
often
creates
a
lot
of
contention,
so
I
want
to
open
just
by
noting
the
veterans
park,
demographics
with
regard
to
income,
this
project
targets
an
average
60
of
ami
for
their
units
and
on
the
four-person
scale
that
they
referenced
veterans
park.
Median
income
would
fall
at
a
62
percent
of
ami.
N
The
community
needs
assessment.
The
boise
put
together
documents
that
veterans
park
has
over
51
percent
of
low-income
residents,
so
over
50
percent
of
our
neighborhood
would
already
meet
the
income
qualifications
here.
So
I
want
to
highlight
that
our
comments
are
not
about
the
low
income
nature
of
the
proposal,
simply
the
building
design.
N
Also,
I
want
to
point
out
that
we
have
to
meet
the
cup
and
pud
approval
criteria
separately
from
the
zoning
ordinance
requirements,
idaho
state
law
and
local
idaho
case
law.
Both
confirm
that
impacts
can
still
be
generated,
even
when
the
the
requirements
of
ordinance
are
met,
so
this
project
qualifies
for
height
exceptions
and
and
parking
reductions,
both
of
those
I'm
pointing
out
impacts
related
to
them.
Next
slide.
Oh
two,
slides,
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
I
want
to
start
by
addressing
the
criteria.
N
Five
on
compliance
with
a
comprehensive
plan
so
shown
here
are
quotes
from
numerous
places
within
blueprint.
Boise
that
require
developments
aimed
at
increasing
density,
to
complement
the
scale
and
character
of
the
existing
surrounding
neighborhood,
provide
gradual,
decreases
in
building
heights
and
incorporate
transitions
to
adjacent
neighborhoods.
N
N
There's
no
proposal
to
rezone
the
adjacent
area
to
the
north
away
from
single
family
homes,
and
so
I
think
we
still
need
to
consider
the
arthur
street
access,
not
just
the
state
street
access.
I
know
that
the
staff
report
said
this
is
an
area
of
change
and
it's
comparable
to
what
we're
expecting
in
terms
of
development
along
state
street,
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
take
into
account
the
arthur
street
access.
N
So
this
slide
is
intended
to
show
the
shadow
generated
which
can
be
considered
an
impact
on
the
surrounding
property,
so
the
yellow
figure
shows
the
graphic
of
the
proposed
building.
You
see
how
it's
incorporating
the
adjacent
lot
that's
currently
or
used
to
be
a
single
family
home,
and
then
the
red
area
shows
shadow
generated
at
solar
noon.
Solar
noon
is
the
point
in
the
day
when
the
sun
is
at
its
highest,
so
the
shadow
is
the
smallest,
so
this
represents
the
smallest
state
shadow
at
various
points
in
the
year.
N
So
in
the
light
red
far
to
the
left,
you
see
the
maximum
extent
of
the
winter
shadow
and
that
covers
almost
two
properties.
It's
probably
80
of
the
second
property
to
the
north,
and
then
the
darker
red
is
the
average
shadow
over
the
course
of
the
year.
You'll
see
that
that
covers
most
of
the
adjacent
property
to
the
north.
I
think
it's
a
75-foot
property
frontage
and
it's
65
feet
of
the
property.
N
And
again,
I'm
bringing
up
the
boise's
drafts
owning
poetry,
right,
which
is
not
an
applicable
standard
here,
but
it
is
an
independent
acknowledgement
that
building
scale
can
create
an
impact
on
the
neighborhood.
So
it
includes
a
building
height,
step-down
section.
That
says
in
order
to
minimize
the
impacts
of
multi-family
mixed
use,
development
on
abutting,
lower
density,
residential
zoning
districts,
and
they
provide
a
two
techniques,
one
of
which
is
to
step
down
the
building
to
a
maximum
of
35
heat
in
height
within
100
feet
of
any
r1c
lot
line.
N
N
Now
I
also
want
to
bring
up
a
parking
impact
which
I
think
is
related
to
the
intensity
of
use
that
the
height
generates,
so
in
fact,
by
reducing
the
height
and
reducing
the
number
of
units.
If
you
kept
the
parking
the
same,
that
might
alleviate
this
impact
already
right
now,
the
applicant
has
qualified
for
several
parking
reductions.
But
again
we
need
to
look
at
impact,
not
the
ordinance
and
there.
N
N
I
just
note
that,
on
a
personal
level,
I'm
a
bike
commuter
we're
a
one
car
household
and
we
were.
I
wanted
to
be
a
no
car
household
and
we're
not
able
to
manage
that
in
boise.
So
I
do
also
envision
a
future
where
we
don't
need
a
one-to-one
parking
ratio,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
it
were
there
yet
and
now.
N
N
I
think
that
you
could
redesign
arthur
and
do
more
infrastructure
and
make
one-way
traffic,
but
that's
not
part
of
this
project.
So
I
think
that,
as
designed,
we
would
need
to
request
more
parking,
a
higher
parking
ratio.
Next
slide,
please,
with
regard
to
state
street.
This
is
a
screenshot
taken
from
the
arthur
street.
Through
you,
it
shows
that
there's
a
solid
barrier
across
the
median,
so
the
left
turns
from
this
site
are
prohibited.
N
N
The
other
option
is
a
rather
indirect
route
through
neighborhood
streets
and
so
to
that
first
intersection.
That's
bush
street.
That's
the
equivalent
of
approximately
four
of
the
smaller
scale
residential
blocks
that
you
see
in
the
adjacent
sunset
from
state
street.
To
there
that's
that
section
is
the
section
that
doesn't
have
any
sidewalks
or
other
infrastructure
improvements
and
obviously
you're
also
going
by
taft
school.
If
you
take
the
bush
route,
so
my
main
comments
are
with
next
slide,
please.
N
So
my
main
comments
are
with
regard
to
the
building
height
and
the
parking
impact.
I
also
think
that
this
will
impact
traffic
patterns,
and
I
don't
see
that
being
something
that
is
within
the
applicant's
ability
to
change,
but
a
reduce,
a
reduction
in
scale
of
the
project
would
also
reduce
the
impact
accordingly.
N
And
finally,
I
want
to
make
a
quick
note.
I
provided
in
my
written
comments
a
copy
of
the
original
bid
review
process
that
showed
at
least
three
of
the
members
of
the
original
bid
review
panel,
commenting
on
the
large
scale
of
this
project
being
difficult
to
consider
comparable
to
the
existing
area.
C
C
J
N
It
depends
where
you
put
the
step
down:
it's
kind
of
an
infinite
layer,
so,
right
now
the
building
height
is
57
and
a
half
feet,
and
the
maximum
shadow
is
approximately
double
that.
So
every
foot
you
step
down
brings
the
shadow
two
feet
in
got
it.
Thank
you,
and
it
also
depends
how
far
you
take
the
step
down
back
like
conceivably.
You
could
step
like.
If
you
put
just
one
set
of
units,
then
you
would
probably
have
a
similar
impact
on
the
adjacent
property
because
you're
not
stepped
back.
Okay,
great.
M
It
will
not
be
restricted
just
to
residents,
we
don't
have
an
operator
yet
pacific,
nor
neither
pacific
nor
smr
are
daycare
operators,
but
the
the
way
that
the
condition
currently
reads
is
based
on
city
code.
I
think
we
can
have
up
to
28
kids
in
that
facility
and
that
may
change,
based
on
whatever
the
state
code
is
at
the
time
that
we
actually
get
the
building
up
and
operating
great.
O
F
Yeah,
mr
chair
commissioner
danley,
so
the
variance
is
to
accommodate
when
achd,
that
requires
dedication
of
right-of-way
that
property
line
moves
back,
so
moving
that
property
line
back
would
change
your
setback.
So,
instead
of
having
to
move
the
building
back
to
accommodate
the
right-of-way
dedication,
they're
asking
for
the
variance.
O
D
O
O
M
M
It's
still
kind
of
hard
to
see,
but
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
that
second
floor
plan
right,
the
there's
a
variety
of
amenities
that
we're
showing
up
there
and
we
you
are
correct
in
that.
I
think
that
the
playground
for
the
community
is
on
the
far
left
or
the
north
side
of
that
open
space.
If
we
have
flexibility
in
our
minds
as
to
where
we
put
the
barbecue
area,
the
dog
run
the
playground,
but
it
is
a
requirement.
M
O
Okay,
great
thank
you
and
mr
one
last
question.
If
I
may,
this
is
to
staff
and
so
caitlin
on
the
the
letter
that
we
got
with
regard
to
the
the
forestry
it
was.
I
don't
recall
seeing
some
this
this
type
of
language
in
here
before,
but
the
proposal
for
the
ash
tree
and
this
pest
and
this
emerald
ash
borer.
There
was
a
great
concern
of
them.
Seeing
that
on
the
proposal
has
that
been
resolved.
B
So
I
had
there
was
one
image
in
our
packet
and
I
think
you
had
it
in
your
presentation
as
well.
It
was
the
hbo
exception
area.
It
was
on
the
height
exception,
request
slide,
so
there's
a
little
section,
shaded
in
green
on
that
west
facade.
Is
that
an
area
where
it's
meant
to
be
not
meant
to
be
at
55
feet.
F
B
Mr
chair
and
I
think
this
kind
of
follows
up
on
that.
There
was
in
one
of
your
earlier
slides.
There
was
some
kind
of
language
about
the
height
increase,
except
10
feet
beyond
the
setback.
I
think
the
way
it
was
worded,
it's
like
in
that
slide
number
six
right
up
where
you're
showing
yeah,
except
for
10
feet
beyond
the
applicable
setback.
So
if
the
setback
is
5
feet,
then
it's
5
plus
10.
Is
that
how
it's
reading.
F
F
L
D
G
Mr
chair,
thank
you.
This
is
a
question
for
staff
regarding
parking.
So
the
way
I
understand
it,
the
child
care
requires
a
conditional
use
based
on
that
activity,
but
retail
is
an
improved
activity
in
that
area.
So
if
a
child
care
facility
is
not
the
resident
of
that
space
in
the
building,
what's
the
parking
requirement
for
retail.
G
F
G
Okay,
the
chair
follow
it
for
a
different
question
regarding
the
variance
please.
The
way
I
haven't
understood
variances
in
my
short
time,
is
that
it's
generally
for
topography,
unusual
circumstances
for
the
parcel-
and
in
this
case
the
achd
right
away
is,
could
have
been
known
because
it's
now
known
it's
in
the
project.
It's
on
our
report
here
that
they
insist
on
that
offset
so
the
given
is.
G
This
is
a
flat
piece
of
ground
with
a
an
existing
property
line
that
acht
is
now
defined
as
the
public
right-of-way
when
we
say
in
the
staff
report
that
the
resulting
impact
would
significantly
reduce
the
number
of
affordable
housing
units
and
the
current
design
maximizes
affordable
housing
units
for
our
deliberations.
What's
the
difference
between
if,
if
they,
if
this
building
was
constructed,
without
the
variance,
what
would
that
be
in
reduction
of
affordable
housing
units,
we
don't
have
that
information.
Do
we.
F
M
M
So
if
you
go
to
the
parking
site
site
plan
yeah
I
mean
it's,
it's
it
would
yeah.
It
would
cut
in
to
a
substantial
portion
of
the
parking
affecting
turnarounds.
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
you
take
out
a
bay
of
parking
you're
going
to
lose
the
equivalent
amount
of
units
and
then
in
response
to
the
height
exception.
M
You
know
we
did
do
some
work
on
our
end
with
our
design
team
and
having
to
do
any
sort
of
step
back
for
the
purpose
of
shadows
or
even
for
the
purpose
of
additional
setbacking.
On
the
ground
floor
we
would
lose
an
entire
set
of
units,
essentially
for
all
floors,
above
depending
on
where
you
requested
that
setback
from,
if
it
makes
sense
so
we're
talking.
Six
four
units
on
each
floor
so
anywhere
from
probably
10
to
16
units
would
be
decreased.
M
So
if
I
may,
the
way
that
we
think
about
that
is,
although
the
the
shadows
are
an
issue
and
maybe
perhaps
would
affect
somebody's
garden
or
perhaps
there's
wait
list
of
years
long
years
longs
for
families
that
are
working
in
our
community
who
can't
find
housing.
So
it's
the
unit
so
the
the
setbacks
that
answers
the
question.
G
So
for
staff,
if,
if
the
variance
regarding
the
achd
piece
of
it
is
stands,
then
how
would
that
affect
adjacent
development?
Will
they
be
in
the
same
pickle,
so
to
speak
for
a
future
development
having
to
work
this
out
or
how
will
that
streetscape
and
all
the
plans
that
we
have
for
state
street
be
affected.
F
O
O
P
Mr
chair,
commissioner
danley
how
we're
working
with
our
land
trust
we
sign
a
long-term
smr
and
the
pacific
companies
will
sign
a
long-term
lease
with
the
city
we're
still
working
through
that
negotiation.
Our
previous
land
trust
property
signed
a
75-year
lease
and
there
was
requirements
for
affordability
throughout
the
life
of
the
ground.
C
We've
got
one
question
caitlin,
I
think,
for
you
kind
of
I
guess
simpler,
maybe
in
scale,
but
the
12
foot
pathway
on
state
street,
the
multi-use
pathway.
Is
that
something
that
where
I
guess
my
I'm
thinking
about
other
adjacent
properties
in
state
street
corridor
itself,
are
we
looking
at
12
foot
pathway
for
that
entire
corridor?
Is
that
the
long-term
goal.
C
F
B
So
on-
and
this
is
a
question
for
I
think
the
applicant
so
on
the
north
elevation-
it's
showing
some
balconies
and
some
large
windows
that
are
going
to
overlook
that
adjacent
site.
Was
there
any
consideration
to
the
some
clear
story?
Windows,
I
think,
looking
at
the
floor
plan,
those
are
actually
units
and
they're
the
only
windows
for
those
units,
but
is
was
there
any
discussion
about
clear
story,
windows
or
some
mitigation
of
looking
into
the
adjacent
neighbors
yard.
M
D
B
C
C
C
E
That
better
yep,
okay,
I've
lived
on
arthur
street
since
1959
I
used
to
live
at
2
502,
and
then
we
built
a
house
next
door
arthur
street
used
to
be
a
dead
end
street
was
great,
and
then
they
built
a
big
subdivision
down,
which
was
fine.
I
didn't
mind.
The
the
whole
thing
about
the
traffic
is
a
big
big
issue
for
me.
There's
a
lot
of
kids
that
use
that
street
to
go
to
school.
E
One
of
the
things
that
I
I
see
on
a
daily
basis
is
people
traveling
up
that
street
too
fast.
So
with
all
the
the
units
that
they're
putting
in
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
that
many
units,
I'm
I'm
I'm
all
about
low
income.
When
I
bought
my
house,
it
was
low
income
and
a
lot
of
the
neighbors
down.
There
were
the
same
and
we've
lived
there
for
40
plus
years.
E
I
think
affordable
housing
is
a
great
idea
because
boise
is
just
growing
like
nobody's
business,
and
but
I
think
that
project
is
a
little
too
big
for
arthur
street.
It
doesn't
fit
it's
it's
five-story,
it's
not
gonna
fit
in
the
neighborhood.
The
buildings
around
it
across
state
street
are
smaller
valor.
The
veterans
housing
over.
There
is
only
four
story
and
it's
a
lot
smaller
and
it's
nestled
in
between
a
couple
of
commercial
businesses,
and
it
looks
okay.
E
E
E
Q
Q
If
you
go
out
around
bush
like
they
were
saying
the
back
way
out
around
taft,
that
is
actually
a
school
zone.
It's
a
bus
loading
zone
back
there,
so
in
the
mornings
and
in
the
afternoons
when
the
kids
get
out
of
school
you're
going
to
put
all
those
cars
down
there,
why
the
kids
are
trying
to
get
on
the
bus
and
leave
it's
just
not
it's
not
gonna
work.
It's
it's
clear
to
see,
and
I
live
next
to
the
where
the
building's
gonna
go
up.
R
I'm
rebecca
hass,
I
live
at
2502
north
arthur
street,
the
house
that
would
be
right
next
to
the
opposed
proposed
apartment.
Complex
I've
lived
in
this
house
for
almost
20
years,
but
I've
lived
on
arthur
my
whole
life.
I
think
the
opposed
apartment
complex
in
the
old
smokies
lot
is
too
much.
You
will
block
out
our
home
from
the
sunlight.
R
When
we
open
our
windows,
we
will
no
longer
have
sunlight
instead,
we'll
get
to
see
an
unnecessary
giant
apartment
complex
that
will
severely
decrease
the
quality
of
our
lives
only
to
benefit
you.
It
is
stated
in
the
veterans
park
neighborhood
plan
that
the
city
of
boise
will
be
encouraging
growth
in
adjacent
areas
without
negatively
impacting
the
existing
area.
R
So
you
can't
tell
me
this
monster
of
a
building
will
not
negatively
impact
our
homes.
What
about
living
right
next
to
it?
Or
should
I
say
under
this
skyscraper
they
propose
and
if
you
say
it
won't
negatively
impact
us,
maybe
you
should
build
it
next
to
your
home
where
you
live.
It
is
not
that
I'm
against
the
idea
of
low-income
housing,
I'm
against
the
idea
of
it
towering
over
our
homes
and
being
too
much
for
our
neighborhood.
R
S
S
S
What
was
the
point
of
the
survey-
and
I
just?
How
did
it
go
that
way
and
another
point?
How
come
it's
going?
North
south?
It's
going
into
a
neighborhood
as
opposed
to
east
west?
There's
a
tobacco
beer
store
that
they
could
tear
down
and
go
east
west
more
on
state
street,
protecting
the
school
from
the
highway.
S
That's
one
idea,
and
if
you're
going
to
have
a
height
variance,
why
not
go
on
the
original
footprint
closer
to
state
street?
Use
that
if
they
got
to
tear
down
the
house,
use
that
house
as
a
off
street
visitor
parking
access
to
the
school
access
to
the
community
garden,
the
street
is
very
narrow.
So
if
you
have
to
widen
the
street,
I
can
look
at
the
oil
changing
store
where
they
expanded
the
sidewalk
off
of
state
street.
S
If
they
expand
that
through
my
property,
I
will
have
probably
about
15
feet
between
my
feet,
my
house
and
the
sidewalk
there's
no
room,
you
could
have
found
a
better
site.
I
think,
if
you
wanted
something
this
big,
like
the
bluebird
car
wash
site,
huge,
the
idaho
department
of
transportation
has
a
100
acres
up
there,
they're,
probably
holding
it
for
something
else,
but
that's
another
place
but
and,
like
becca
said,
there's
nothing
this
tall
between
downtown
and
I
don't
know,
ontario
it's
just
out
of
character,
and
it's
like.
S
T
Dr
susan
williamson,
a
beloved
educator
and
then
principal
of
the
taft
elementary
school
built
an
urban
garden
sanctuary
in
2010
with
over
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
community
contributions
in
2019,
when
my
son
was
in
elementary
school,
I
discovered
a
seven
thousand
square
foot
shoulder
high
weeds
in
the
back
of
that
school
and
I
stopped
counting
at
a
thousand
hours
of
community
volunteer
service
and
eight
thousand
dollars
in
donations
to
rehab
that
garden
that
got
the
community
cares
about
that
garden.
It's
a
school
community
partnership
and
the
partnership
works
like
this.
T
T
But
I
have
concerns
that.
I
hope
that
you'll
consider
and
I
I
do
thank
the
project
for
providing
the
access
path
to
the
garden,
and
I
thank
them
for
considering
the
invasive
species,
because
that's
something
we
struggle
with
and
they've
been
very
concerned
and
near,
as
I
can
tell
you
know,
responsive
to
that.
So
they've
done
a
lot
of
things
right.
But
here
are
my
remaining
concerns.
T
A
garden
can't
grow
in
the
shade,
and
so
so
there
there
are
shade
concerns
also
for
our
garden
and
and
we
can't
garden
if
we
can't
get
to
it
and
where
can
people
park
and
the
gardeners
tend
to
be.
I
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
little
old,
ladies
such
as
myself
or
older
and
gardening
takes
a
lot
of
you
got
to
haul
a
lot
of
things.
Bricks
rocks
dirt
pumpkins,
and
so
we
we
need
a
way
to
get
in
and
get
out
of
that
garden.
T
And
you
know
parking
is
really
a
problem.
You
know
because
if,
if
you
get,
if
you
start
with
16,
you
take
away
three
for
the
for
the
day
care
and
you
take
away
two
for
the
staff
of
the
property
you
got
55
and
and
if
you
have
102
units
and
there's
two
people
living
in
those
units,
it's
like.
I
don't
know
about
the
special
conditions
they
have,
but
common
sense
tells
me
that's
a
lot
and
if
you
look
at
any
of
the
surrounding
roads,
there
is
no
other
place
place
to
park.
T
T
I
I
worry
about
that
and
I
I
shared
in
the
neighborhood
meeting
my
concern
of
of
of
I
don't
know
folks
looking
down
there,
who
don't
necessarily
need
to
be
doing
that.
I
think
if
they
say,
they're
low
income.
I
hope
that
there's
some
way
to
really
make
sure
that
it's
low
income
that
we're
not
just
talking
about
80
ami,
but
we
are
talking
about
as
they
said,
10
units
for
the
30
ami
and
those
lower
folks.
U
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
shane
harris.
I
live
at
3019
north
35th
street,
I'm
a
co-coordinator
of
the
taft
elementary
school
garden
with
bobby
we've,
been
running
the
garden
for
four
and
a
half
years
now
getting
ready
to
start
again
and
it's
kind
of
an
emotional
thing.
For
me,
urban
sprawl
exists.
We
know
we've
watched
it.
I've
been
an
idaho
resident,
often
on
my
entire
life.
U
We
can't
stop
it,
but
we
can
do
what
we
can
to
make
the
impact
less.
I've
been
running
the
community
garden.
It
was
a
you
know,
as
dr
susan
wilkinson's
dream,
as
the
principal
of
that
school
to
create
a
common
space
for
people
can
come
and
garden
and
work
with
children,
and
you
know
I
I
think
about
this.
U
U
So,
but
this
structure
does
not
fit
the
vibe
of
state
street.
It
is
the
second
it
will
be
the
second
tallest
building
on
state
street
that
exists,
the
mir
building
and
it
that
that
will
be
the
two
tallest
structures.
You
look
at
firefighting
ladder
trucks
it.
It
will
make
a
nightmare
for
that,
but
when
it
comes
back
down
to
the
need
of
a
community
garden,
we
have
to
think
about
the
children
that
go
to
taft
elementary
school.
It
has
a
huge
refugee
population
that
we
love
working
with.
U
We
farm
kids
from
idaho,
get
to
teach
these
young
kids
how
to
plant
a
garden
how
to
harvest
a
garden,
how
to
eat
food
off
of
the
vine
without
going
home
and
cooking
it
without
washing
it.
You
just
eat
it
right
off
the
vine
and
if
that
community
garden
dies,
because
it's
now
shaded
by
a
building,
that's
five
stories
tall.
U
U
But
yet
months
later
we
have
50
pound
pumpkins,
20,
pound
pumpkins
tomatoes,
all
those
things
that
we
redneck,
idaho,
kids,
that
grew
up
on
a
farm.
We
need
to
teach
the
next
generation
because
we
are
looking
at
a
food
crisis
across
the
globe.
If
we
can't
teach
kids
how
to
plant
garden,
they
will
go
hungry.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
today,
like
I
said
it's
more
on
the
emotional
side,
and
I
do
appreciate
somebody
trying
to
find
a
way
to
create
low-income
housing,
because
we
need
that
desperately
in
boise.
So
thanks.
Everyone
thank.
D
C
V
Titmus
3900
pint
avenue,
they're
correct
to
say
that
this
neighborhood,
that's
behind
this
development
is
low
income.
The
average
house
size
here
is
1100
square
feet.
Some
900
square
feet.
Two
bedrooms
at
best
they'll
have
a
one-car
garage
in
order
to
make
up
for
more
square
footage.
They
are
turning
those
one-car
garages
into
living
space.
V
So
you
can
imagine
that
even
people
that
live
here
and
work
from
these
homes
are
parking
on
the
streets.
Now
I
can't
emphasize
enough
what
difference
what
impacts
that's
going
to
make
through
the
neighborhood.
It
was
mentioned
briefly
that
when
you
go
on
arthur
and
you're
trying
to
get
on
state
street,
you
can
only
take
a
right.
V
The
alternative
is
then
to
backtrack
through
my
neighborhood
and
as
they
showed
that
bush
street
is
the
closest
one,
but
it
wouldn't
be.
The
one
people
use
bush
street
is
a
curved
street
and
has
a
lot
of
on-street
parking
people
that
regularly
park
their
daily
drivers
on
the
street.
So
they
use
my
street,
which
is
pine
pine,
is
a
straight
shot
from
arthur
or
36th
and
then
down
to
sunset
over
to
36th
street.
V
I'm
sorry
38
sunset,
then
36th
street
then
take
a
left
on
state
street
that
did
not
used
to
go
through
to
sunset
and
past
taft
elementary
school.
There
used
to
be
barriers
there.
They
opened
them
up
last
summer
and
so
I've
seen
the
traffic
going
from
people
that
want
to
get
from
arthur
over
to
get
left
going
downtown.
V
I
would
second
what
was
said
about
parking
they're,
making
exceptions
on
top
of
exceptions
to
pack
as
many
homes
in
there
as
sorry
as
many
units
as
possible,
and
although
I
am
sympathetic
to
density,
we
need
that.
I
I
don't
think
we
need
to
get
to
give
every
exception
for
that,
whatever
constraints
they
had,
I
think
the
real
number
for
maximum
for
parking
would
be
if
they
hit
a
lim.
C
W
There's
a
lot
of
there's
a
handful
of
people
calling
in
today
with
specific
points
of
opposition,
but
we're
not
going
to
hear
today,
almost
certainly
from
any
of
the
100
families,
or
so
that
would
benefit
from
this
project
and
that's
a
challenge
in
these
kind
of
debates
where,
if
this
building
existed
and
we
were
thinking
about
cutting
it
back
and
then
these
people
would
lose
their
home.
That
would
be
that
you
know
they
would
have
strong
feelings
upon
that
and
they'd
be
missing
out.
W
But
at
this
point
the
people
that
may
ultimately
get
to
live
in
there
don't
even
know
that
that's
the
option
that
may
be
denied
to
them
based
on
this
not
moving
forward
or
not
getting
financing,
not
getting
built
or
cutting
down
10
units
here
or
10
units
there.
So
we
have
such
a
compelling
housing
need
so
many
families
in
deep
need.
I
think
this
is
really
one
of
the
best
projects.
I've
seen
that
I
wanted
to
call
in
to
support
at
funding
and
zoning,
and
I'm
really
glad
to
do
so
today.
Thank
you.
C
X
X
It
definitely
supports
our
state
street
transit
corridor
plan
with
more
density,
we're
seeing
the
the
fact
that
we
have
such
an
affordable
housing
crisis
in
our
in
our
city
and
our
state.
I
I
think
that
the
focus
on
building
more
is
definitely
much
needed,
as
well
as
the
fact
that
I
myself
am
a
child
care
facility
owner.
So
I
know
that
we
need
a
lot
more
child
care
available
in
our
city
and
I
would
love
to
see
it
added
in
this
area.
X
It's
a
lot
easier
for
us
to
avoid
avoid
that
kind
of
weird
turnaround
on
state
street
that
was
caused
with
the
new
u-turn
system
that
they
put
in
there
a
few
years
ago,
and
I
guess
that's
it
with
with
acknowledgement
of
certainly
some
of
the
impacts
that
I
think
that
this
will
have
on
our
neighborhood.
I
do
urge
you
to
approve
the
project,
potentially
with
updates,
like
stepping
that
have
been
proposed
to
decrease
its
shadow
to
the
north.
Thank
you.
Y
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I
also
in
support
of
building
additional,
affordable
housing,
and
I
also
echo
the
vpna's
concerns
about
the
size
and
impact
of
this
project.
I'm
disappointed
by
the
staff's
conclusion
that
this
project
will
not
negatively
impact
adjacent
properties,
parking
traffic
and
pedestrian
state
and
pedestrian
state
safety,
and
the
building
channel
all
represent
negative
impacts
on
adjacent
properties.
I
live
by
the
way
at
2519
north
arthur
street,
about
225
feet
from
the
proposed
location.
Y
As
has
been
stated
previously,
the
street
is
already
narrow
and
lacks
sidewalks
and
by
my
calculation,
between
the
existing
use
by
residents
on
the
street
for
street
parking
around
their
houses
because
has
been
stated.
Most
houses
do
not
have
wide
driveways,
my
wife
and
I
generally
park
one
of
our
cars
on
the
street,
because
our
driveway
is
not
wide
enough
to
fit
both
of
our
cars
next
to
each
other.
Y
So
if
we
only
park
on
one
side
of
the
street,
then
that
extends
parking
all
the
way
up
to
to
pine.
So
parking
is
a
major
issue
again
having
more
cars
parked
and
more
traffic
traveling
up
the
street
means
more
more
of
a
safety
impact
and
mrs
rodriguez
repeated
statements
that
these
issues
are
allowed
by
code
does
not
negate
the
possibility
of
that
negative
impact.
That's
why
this
review
process
exists.
I
thank
the
commissioner
mooney
for
pointing
out
the
inadequate
parking
for
the
child
care
facility.
Y
Anybody
who
is
not
living
in
the
building
and
is
using
the
child
care
facility
will
have
no
choice
but
to
pull
on
to
arthur
in
either
street
park
or
park
in
the
valvoline
parking
lot
or
by
the
new
wash
and
dry
center
in
order
to
deliver
their
children
and
walk
across
arthur
street
in
order
to
drop
off
and
pick
up
their
children.
One
idea
off
the
top
of
my
head
is
redesigning
this
building
so
that
the
community
garden
and
the
building
is
on
the
north
side.
Y
Then
you
achieve
the
step
down
and
decrease
the
shade
issue.
The
the
impact
of
driving
on
state
street
has
been,
as
has
been
mentioned.
I
have
lived
on
the
street
for
10
years
and
on
a
regular
basis.
I
make
the
rather
precarious
exit
turning
westbound
onto
state
street
and
then
having
to
pull
into
the
middle
lane
and
pull
a
u-turn
in
order
to
go
eastbound
or
since
the
the
traffic
has
opened
up
on
38th
street
I've
more
often
traveled
up
that
way.
Y
F
Hello,
I'm
alexandra
manjar.
I
live
at
2222
west
kootenay
street
in
boise,
and
I
would
like
to
support
this
project.
I
I
believe
that
it
will
have
a
positive
impact
to
the
adjacent
properties
it's
building
streetscapes
along
the
street
that
lacks
infrastructure.
As
has
been
mentioned,
it
will
mitigate
displacement
in
this
neighborhood,
which
is,
as
mentioned
home,
to
many
families
who
have
incomes
in
line
with
the
incomes
that
this
project
will
serve.
F
As
we
are
going
to
see
increasing
development
in
this
corridor,
affordable
housing
becomes
even
more
important
than
it
already
is,
and
keeping
100
families
securely
housed
in
an
area
close
to
transit
is
exactly
in
line
with
the
city's
goals
and
in
line
with
the
plans
for
the
area,
it
will
also
maximize
the
return
on
public
investment
in
this
area.
As
state
street
is
improved
and
the
vrt
transit
line
serves
this
community,
it
will
also
bring
more
neighbors
to
the
neighborhood
and
which
brings
more
eyes
on
the
street,
which
is
good
for
safety.
F
F
I
also
think
that
the
step
backs
would
likely
result
in
a
need
to
reduce
a
number
of
the
larger
units,
which
I
think
is
a
major
problem.
We
need
affordable
housing
for
families
and
those
extra
units
or
extra
bedrooms
in
the
homes
are
really
important
for
families
and
so
reducing
the
size
of
this
project.
I
am
concerned
that
it
would
reduce
the
availability
of
housing
for
families
in
need.
F
I
know
that
cars
and
traffic
suck,
but
we
are
never
going
to
get
to
a
better
place
if
we
keep
regulating
parking
for
the
desire
that
exists
currently.
So
I
do
not
think
that
there
should
be
any
sort
of
increase
in
parking
requirements,
and
I
respectfully
suggest
that
if
homeowners
are
concerned
about
people
parking
on
the
street-
and
they
do
that,
then
they
can
build
another
garage
or
more
parking
pads
for
themselves,
and
that
is
all
of
my
comments.
Thank
you.
So
much.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
If
some
of
these
concerns
around
parking
on
the
street
and
such
do
come
to
materialize
and
then
also
I'm
really
supportive
of
just
like
how
having
greater
housing
stability
leads
to
greater
social
capital,
especially
for
low-income
residents,
who
really
need
access
to
this
right
now,
we
know
that
affordable
housing
and
a
lack
of
affordable
housing
in
boise
is
a
huge
concern.
We
need
more
units
for
people
to
live
in
and
being
able
to
have
that
stable
housing,
I
think,
is
really
imperative.
Z
They
were
very
like
active
and
engaged
with
people
here
right
on
our
street,
and
it
was
sad
to
see
them
go,
and
I
just
think
that,
like
having
had
an
opportunity
for
a
family
to
stay
put
in
the
neighborhood
that
they've
lived
in
and
invested
in,
helps
them
in
the
long
run.
It
helps
the
neighborhood
in
the
long
run,
and
it
creates
a
safer
and
more
vibrant
community
for
everyone.
So
that's
it,
I'm
just
in
full
support
of
the
project.
Thanks
for
giving
me
the
chance
to
comment
tonight.
Z
AA
AA
D
AB
Fine
great,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
commissioner,
mr
chair,
I
I'm
caleb
rupe
430
east
state
street
part
of
the
applicant
team,
and
I
would
just
start
with
you
know.
Change
is
hard
and
I
get
all
this.
I
mean
we
deal
with
this
and
you
deal
with
it
all
the
time
I
might
draw
attention
to
just
like.
Generally,
we
talk
about
sort
of
the
issue
of
a
shadow
going
over
your
home.
You
know
what,
if
you
don't
you
don't
even
have
a
home
to
have
a
shadow
be
cast
over.
AB
So
when
one
comes
around,
I
think
the
city
envisioned
initially
when
they
acquired
this
site,
that
they
were
really
going
to
make
this
an
effort
to
get
as
much
housing
done
as
you
could,
and
so
we're
really
hillary.
Just
fulfilling
that
mission,
I
mean
we
started
this
project,
probably
90
units
and
then
that
additional
site
got
acquired.
One
kind
of
cool
thing
you
didn't
hear
about
today
is
like
along
the
front
of
the
property
there.
AB
We
did
a
lot
line
adjustment
with
a
neighbor
and
created
a
better
parcel
for
the
neighbor
to
develop
their
commercial
spot
someday
and
then
also
square
off
our
lot
lines
or
actually
help
both
properties-
and
you
know
that's.
The
kind
of
stuff
we
like
to
do
is
try
to
collaborate
with
the
community,
and
you
know
we
know
this
is
going
to
be
hard,
but
this
is
going
to
serve
folks
at
30,
ami
all
the
way
up
to
80
ami.
AB
AB
We
will
do
what
you
ask
us
to
do,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
our
mission
is
to
try
to
get
as
much
housing
provided
to
the
community
and
to
the
people
in
your
city
as
possible,
because
your
needs
is
so
great
and
you
have
limited
opportunities
if
you're
not
going
to
densify
here.
Where
are
you
going
to
densify?
AB
You
know
we,
we
did
a
dare
and
on
you
know,
fairview,
and
it
was
the
most
dance
projects
being
built
at
the
time,
and
now
you
see
the
hospital,
and
now
you
see
other
plans
for
other
projects
to
come,
and
so
you
got
to
identify
where
you've
got
your
transit
and
your
walkability
and
your
corridors,
and
things
like
that
that
are
going
to
be
friendly
for
future
development
and
future
density.
So
those
are
kind
of
I
know
policy
things
we're
happy
to.
AB
If
we
need
to
kind
of
do
different
things
on
the
windows
or
no
balconies
here
and
there
we
can
make
those
moves.
You
know
those
are
all
possible.
I
would
just
ask
that
we,
you
know
we're
not
asking
for
big
variances
here,
big
changes
to
the
code,
some
little
tweaks
here
and
there
to
make
this
thing
work,
and
we
just
would
ask
you.
Let
us
fulfill
our
mission
to
as
many
units
as
we
can
don't
step
us
down.
It
adds
cost.
AB
You
know,
and
I
think,
from
a
public
policy
perspective,
it's
better
to
get
people
at
home
than
avoid
a
shadow.
So,
incidentally,
one
other
idea
had
we
are
programming
on
our
podium
deck-
some
gardens.
Well,
you
know,
maybe
there's
a
better
approach
here
to
say:
let's
just
not
do
that
and
we
can
take
that
same
money.
AB
We
were
going
to
invest
there
and
let's
invest
in
the
community
garden
this
next
door
through
ongoing
revenue
sources
that
we
might
be
able
to
produce-
or
maybe
we're
going
to
spend
30
000
on
that
we
could
put
that
in
the
bank
and
you
know,
spend
monthly
or
annually
to
improve
the
gardens
where
they
already
exist
that
are
further
away
from
our
building
already
and
we'll
have
less
of
a
shadow.
So
that's
the
kind
of
thing
we
could
also
look
at
too,
but
I'll
just
stop
there
did
you
have
anything
you
want
to
add
shelling.
S
M
Really
quickly,
I
would
say
to
caleb's
point:
I've
been
doing
this
for
over
15
years.
Caleb
has
been
doing
this
for
longer,
and
these
are
concerns
that
we
hear
very
very
often
when
we're
up
in
front
of
the
committee
or
the
commission
here
in
boise,
but
also
all
throughout
western
states.
So
these
changes
are
hard.
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
I
wanted
to
say
that
I
recognize
it,
but
I
also
think
that
the
critical
issue
here
is
the
housing
and
everything
else.
I
would
just
echo
echo.
C
O
Sure
sure
this
project,
in
my
mind,
was
actually
born
15
years
ago,
when
the
state
and
it
or
the
city
initiated
the
state
street
plan
corridor
plan.
Subsequent
plans
came
about
we.
I
know
this
city
and
achd
and
other
partners
have
spent
a
collective
million
dollars
on
this
corridor
and,
in
my
opinion,
it's
to
see
projects
very
much
like
this.
O
Positive
things,
school
right
next
door,
most
am
traffic,
3
o'clock
p.m.
Traffic
is
generated
because
of
school
activity.
This
happens
to
be
a
school
right
next
to
it
within
walking
distance.
Another
use,
that's
typically
driven
to
grocery
store,
that's
basically
across
the
street.
If
we
want
to
get
across
the
state
street
to
get
the
parks
green
belt,
we
actually
have
a
pedestrian,
hybrid
beacon
right
out
front,
which
is
pretty
amazing,
in
addition
to
transit
operations,
that
this
is
the
most
successful.
O
For
you
know,
route
that
this
state
has,
which
is
also
of
benefit.
I
don't
take
lightly
the
concerns
that
were
raised.
However,
with
respect
to
the
shade,
I
do
see
that
as
an
issue,
it's
an
unfortunate
issue.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
resolve
it.
I
do
see
the
problems,
that's
that
that's
here
inherent
with
the
way
that
things
are
constructed
the
cost,
especially
if
we're
trying
to
get
to
the
affordable
component
of
it.
O
L
O
It's
a
trade-off,
and
it's
not
a
good
trade-off.
I'm
sorry
to
say
that
I
know
you
know
not
everyone's
going
to
be
happy
about
that,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
that
the
benefits
in
this
case
are
pretty
significant
and
I
think
therefore
we
should
support
it.
So,
for
those
reasons
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion.
AC
Really
don't
have
too
much
to
add
to
that.
I
would
just
say
that
I
agree
that
the
bigger
consideration
here
is
the
policy
issue
and
we
have
to
get
some
housing
in
this
community.
I
mean
every
pnz
board
and
council
across
the
country
is
trying
to
figure
this
out
and
we
have
to
take
these
these
shots
where
we
get
them.
So
I'm
in
support
of
the
project.
C
J
I
support
the
motion
and
the
comments
made
by
my
fellow
commissioners
and
I
would
maybe
add
to
the
public
that
it
does
sound
like.
There
are
some
separate
concerns
with
the
current
traffic
situation.
That's
happening
there
and
it
might
be
worth
reaching
out
to
achd
to
talk
about
adding
speed
bumps
for
the
cut
through
areas
or
or
adding
in
parking
signs
on
one
side.
If
you
can't
park
on
both
and
things
like
that,
and
also
the
flip
side
of
that
is,
as
we
know,
street
parking
actually
slows
vehicle
traffic
down.
J
G
Mr
chair,
I'm
leaning
towards
being
not
in
support
of
this
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
I
agree
with
all
the
previous
comments
from
the
commissioners,
and
this
is
a
much
needed
project
with
great
aesthetics
and
and
all
the
things
have
already
been
said.
But
I
really
was
was
tagging
on
to
the
applicant's
suggestion
that
this
is
your
property
and
it
is
it's
the
city's
property
and
I
feel
a
responsibility
that
we
should
lead
by
example
on
that,
which
means
that
I
would
have
a
hard
time
in
the
future.
G
Reading
the
code
and
administering
the
code
as
written
when
in
this
case
I
don't
think
it
does
and
specifically
the
variants.
The
hardship
issue
is
ex.
Is
I
I
can't
square
that
corner
in
my
mind.
It's
the
achd
is
a
is
a
given
and
I
don't
understand
how
we
can
work
around
that
the
vista
and
target
project
that
we
recently
saw
before.
G
I
was
even
on
the
commission,
a
four-story
workforce,
housing
unit
that
was
initially
denied
based
on
hardship,
the
variance
hardship
and
that
applicant
came
back
and
fixed
that
quickly
and
then
it
sailed
through
the
commission
was
approved
in
january.
As
I
recall,
and
so
that's
the
one
that,
in
my
brief
experience,
I
reflect
back
on
that.
G
It's
the
site
needs
to
be
large
enough
to
accommodate
the
use,
and
that
was
my
questions
about
the
child
care
center.
That's
the
best
case
parking
requirement
is
the
three
slots
required
for
three
or
four
slots
required
for
child
care,
but
that's
a
proposed
use.
An
allowed
use
is
retail,
which
requires
a
lot
more
parking
and
and
we're
not
providing
it.
And
yet
we
state
that
if
retail
goes
in
there,
then,
if
the
use
changes,
then
the
project
will
need
to
provide
sufficient
parking
based
on
the
new
use.
How
would
that
work?
G
How
would
that
happen?
Basically,
that
would
be
a
space
that
could
never
be
retail.
It
could
only
be
something
with
a
reduced
parking
footprint
which
I
think
is
hampering
future
opportunities
for
us,
the
city
since
we
own
land,
so
I'm
not
in
support
of
it.
I
think
pretty
strongly
based
on
those
two
issues.
C
B
B
B
However,
it
is
still
it
and
its
perimeter
are
still
within
that
mixed
use
corridor,
and
because
of
that,
I
could
see
kind
of
some
of
the
adjacent
properties
developing
to
a
greater
volume
or
greater
height,
becoming
more
compatible
and
kind
of
starting
that
step
down
in
the
future
and
then
in
relation
to
kind
of
some
of
those
streetscapes
and
infrastructure.
I
think
one
of
the
public
comments
was.
B
You
know
a
good
point
that
there's
some
infrastructure
issues
which
this
will
be
at
least
for
its
adjacent
segment,
resolving
or
at
least
aiding
and
resolving,
and
then
otherwise.
You
know
I'd
be
great
to
see
some
sort
of
mitigation
on
that
north
side
for
privacy.
But
I
know
that
that
is
difficult,
because
those
are
actual
units
as
opposed
to
the
side
units,
so
that
may
be
challenging
or
near
impossible.
D
C
Thanks
everybody,
I
think
yeah,
I'm
gonna,
be
in
support
of
the
motion
as
well
as
commissioner
dan
lee
said.
I
sympathize
too,
with
the
change
that
this
project
creates
along
the
corridor,
especially
with
regards
to
the
shade,
and
that
fact
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
the
applicant's
done
a
nice
job,
getting
this
number
of
units
to
work
on
what
is
kind
of
a
challenging
parcel.
It's
an
odd
shape.
C
C
D
C
Got
mr
mooney
back
mr
mooney's
back
okay,
we
got
everybody
in
person
all
right.
So,
let's
see
up
next
on
our
agenda.
We
have
item
number
three
that
is
cva
21-59
coal,
architects
at
2025,
south
broadway
avenue.
This
is
a
variance
to
encroach
into
the
side
yard
setback
for
parking
and
drive
aisles,
I
believe
from.
C
C
K
K
The
applicant
is
requesting
to
reduce
the
drive
aisle
to
14
feet
and
eight
inches,
and
the
landscape
buffer
did
two
feet.
Nine
inches
they've
explored
other
options
on
site,
such
as
cross
access
to
the
north
that
wasn't
available
and
they
plan
to
mitigate
for
any
safety
concerns
caused
by
the
drive
aisle
width.
However,
basically
there's
very
little
parking
and
activity
it's
going
to
be
in
office
use
and
they
plan
to
put
mirrors
and
signage
up
in
order
to
mitigate
for
any
safety
concerns,
and
the
planning
team
recommends
approval.
AD
C
C
G
Thanks,
mr
chair
yeah,
my
only
question
is
not
related
to
the
variance
and
the
drive
and
all
that
that's
all
great.
I
was
just
noticing
the
billboard
and
the
first
slide.
I
think
staff
presented
their
lower
left
and
our
comp
plan
is
pretty
clear
for
the
variance
when
you
grant
a
variance.
It
will
not
be
in
conflict
with
the
comp
plan,
and
the
comp
plan
is
pretty
clear
on
general
design.
G
Principles
for
community
gateways
that
we
should
be
visual
clutter
should
be
transitional
and
monument
signs
should
become
the
standard,
especially
on
a
on
a
gateway
like
broadway
coming
into
the
city
center.
So
I
was
wondering
if
the
applicant
would
entertain
a
condition
where
that
billboard
goes
away.
D
AD
At
this
time
we
had
not
considered
the
billboard,
as
that
is
an
existing
as
it
is
existing
to
the
site
and
the
current
landlord
has
a
lease
on
it
for
to
rent
out
that
billboard.
So
we
had
not
considered
that
as
part
of
this
at
this
time,
but
are
always
happy
to
look
at
it
in
the
future
when
we
consider
developing
the
process
project,
but
that
is
not
currently
at
this
time
planned
on
going
away.
G
C
AD
D
C
C
C
X
C
C
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much,
and
up
next
on
our
agenda
is
item
number
six.
This
is
cup
21
and
cva21-56
alc
architecture
at
1094
on
west
overland
road.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
drive-up
establishment
on
1.14
acres
in
the
c1d
zone
and
we're
going
to
hear
from
ms
lyle
again
from
staff.
Thank.
K
K
The
submitted
site
plan
shows
the
drive
up
window
like
located
on
the
east
side
of
the
building,
with
access
to
the
drive
aisle
from
quest
water
lane
with
vehicle
headlights
facing
north.
To
avoid
disturbing
the
residents
of
south
point
cottage
subdivision:
there
is
additional
residential
development
to
the
north
across
overland
road.
That
is
within
this
200-foot
residential
setback.
However,
there
is
a
30-foot
landscape
buffer
with
existing
implant
trees
to
provide
screening.
The
proposed
site
plan
shows
the
drive
up
window
approximately
150
feet
from
the
nearest
residential
property.
K
The
applicant
proposes
one
pedestrian
connection
to
overland
and
a
sidewalk
along
the
western
property
line.
A
condition
will
require
sidewalk
along
the
southern
boundary
of
the
parcel,
with
pedestrian
connection
to
the
south
point
cottage
subdivision
and
raise
pedestrian
connection
from
the
retail
building
to
overland
road
into
the
residential
subdivision
to
the
south.
K
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
variance.
The
200-foot
setback,
assigning
exceptional
circumstances
with
the
site.
In
2016
there
was
the
commercial
pud
approved
with
the
drive-up
window
and
the
conceptual
site
plan
and
a
similar
location
to
what
is
proposed
signaling
the
intent
to
locate
this
use
here
in
the
future.
K
D
D
C
AE
Yes
good
evening,
I
appreciate
jesse's
staff
report
and
just
like
to
say
we
are
in
agreeance
with
that.
Is
there
a
way
I
can?
Can
I
share
my
screen
yeah,
you
should
be
able
to
perfect.
Thank
you
to
start
off
we'd
like
to
say
we
are
in
full
support
and
an
agreeance
with
the
staff
report
and
recommendations
as
part
of
this
condition
of
approval.
AE
AE
As
of
now
things
are
better
off,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
our
user
currently
is-
and
it's
has
a
signed
lease
for
that
is
baskin
robbins
ice
cream.
So
I'm
hoping
that
will
alleviate
some
of
these
concerns
for
a
drive-through.
I
know
going
in
with
just
a
standard
drive-through
everybody
thinks
it's
going
to
be
fast
food
or
something
that's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
heavy
traffic
and
so
to
kind
of
help
alleviate
the
concern.
AE
AE
AE
As
we
know,
the
town
homes
were
approved
to
go
in,
there
was
still
leaving
the
front
portion
of
this
site
front
portion
of
this
whole
development
as
commercial
uses.
As
we
see
here,
we've
talked
about
the
staff
report.
I
won't
go
on
to
read
it.
Staff
does
agree
that
this
site
is
large
enough
to
have
the
use
it
complies
with
the
conditions
in
blueprint
boise
about
how
it
infill
sites
incorporated
outdoor
seating,
encourage
pedestrian
activity
in
the
letter
from
the
neighborhood
association
they
had
talked
about,
and
this
is
their.
AE
This
is
their
markup
that
they
had
sent
in
their
letter,
and
I
assume
you
guys
have
all
seen
it,
but
the
orange
the
orange
line
there
is
where
they
would
like
the
sidewalk
to
be
in
talking
with
staff
and,
in
the
reason,
the
reason
the
way
that
we
had
designed
this
is
we
want
the
connection
pedestrian
to
go
in
between
the
buildings
and
down
to
the
south.
The
reason
we're
thinking
in
this
area
here
is
in
their
design
this.
This
connection
right
here,
is
their
sidewalk
connection
right
here.
AE
So
the
connection
comes
across
here
anyway,
so
to
have
it
have
it
come
over
and
then
go
up
the
east
side
of
the
site,
a
lot
of
extra
a
lot
of
extra
steps
to
get
there
so
just
bring
them
straight
through
and
then
out
to
overland
right
through
the
site.
Anyways
would
be
better
for
us
and
that's
the
way
we've
designed
the
site.
The
way
we
like
to
leave
it.
AE
So
I
mean
in
closing,
you
know
we
we
agree
with
staff.
We
agree
that
what
has
been
presented
as
far
as
blueprint
boise
boise
codes
for
drive
up
establishments
in
this
in
this
area.
You
know
our
landscape
plan
has
got
some
extra
landscaping
around
that
we're
screened
from
the
pedestrians.
I
do
want
to
point
out.
I
know
where
staff
would
say
we
are
about
150
feet
from
here
directly
south
to
a
residential
zone
per
se,
we're
about
175
feet
as
the
crow
flies
to
this
portion.
AE
This
is
their
garages,
so
175
feet
to
the
actual
town
home
on
a
straight
shot.
So
it's
a
little
bit
further,
we're
close
to
that
200
closer
to
that
200,
feet
anyways,
and
so
we
appreciate
staff
and
their
their
willingness
to
work
with
on
this,
and
we
look
forward
to
any
questions.
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
C
AF
AF
AF
AF
That's
25
percent,
the
city,
the
city
envisions
six
cars
for
a
stack
up
that
pretty
much
reduces
it
to
four
and
that
stack
up
is
gonna,
go
directly
to
the
neighborhood
there's
one
street
that
goes
in.
That
has
to
go
directly
in
front
of
the
neighborhood
and
then
turn
to
go
up
up
to
the
drive-through.
AF
AF
Our
main
concern
is,
of
course,
the
car
stacking,
the
exhaust
fumes
and
the
impact
on
the
neighborhood.
They
see
that
the
these
they
created
it,
so
the
the
headlights
wouldn't
go
directly
into
the
neighborhood
of
the
south,
but
what
about
the
new
development
across
the
street?
I
don't
think
a
30
to
a
30
foot.
Landscape
barrier
is,
is
anything
that's
literally
you
know
from
here
to
you.
I
don't
see
that
blocking
headlights
from
someone's
front
window
so,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
totally
in
favor
of
the
office
in
retail.
I
just
don't.
AG
AG
K
AE
This
was
designed
to
be
a
commercial
center,
was
designed
to
actually
have
more
commercial
between
us
and
the
neighborhood
to
the
south
and
obviously,
as
time
went
along
that
didn't
happen,
and
so
they
got
some
residential
in
there,
which
you
know.
We
see
that
everywhere
in
the
in
this
in
the
city.
Right
now
is,
if
you
look
at
all
of
our
applications
today,
most
of
them
are
for
residential
developments,
multi-family
developments,
so
we're
going
back
to
that
original
pud
and
you
know
it.
X
AE
AG
AG
AG
I
think
so,
mr
chair,
one
more
for
staff.
I
remember
when
this
subdivision
came
in
front
of
us
and
there
was
no
mention
of
like
the
commercial
use
or
a
drive-through
window
interfering
in
the
subdivision,
so
I'm
just
wondering
what's
the
disclosure
process
on
this
type
of
application
like
when
you
have
a
subdivision
next
to
something
like
a
c1
district,
and
I
I
just
think
it's
kind
of
unfortunate
because
this
application
has
existed
or
the
pud
since
2016..
AG
H
K
K
This
was
the
original
pud
and
the
staff
report
again
references
the
need
for
additional
entitlements
for
drive
up
window,
and
there
was
a
time
extension
in
2018
and
the
pud
1943
was
a
mod
to
the
original
beauty
and
that
one
was
the
one
that
was
approved
in
20
20
for
the
residential
uses.
So
that's
kind
of
how
this
has
evolved
over
time.
K
D
K
G
G
AE
I
appreciate
the
questions
and
the
so
I
just
want
to
make
everybody
clear.
I
know
it's
150
feet
from
the
window
to
the
use
which
jesse
has
clearly
stated
here.
We
had
pointed
out
that
it
was
about
175
feet
from
here
to
here.
I
don't
know
you
know
the
distance
of
these,
but
I
would
say
a
200
foot
is
probably
somewhere
in
the
range
of
three
of
these
units.
Here,
it's
not
going
to
reach
over
to
here,
like
I
said
it's
somewhere
right
in
here,
where
that's
going
to
be.
AE
C
AE
C
AE
AE
Followed
you,
okay!
Well,
I
can't
share
my
screen.
Okay,
I
mean,
I
hope
you
guys
so
there's
there's
a
number
42
and
a
number
44
on
those.
I
think
it's
a
four.
It's
a
41
and
a
42.,
so
that
is
that's
kind
of
where
I
think
that
that
200
foot
is
going
to
going
to
fall
in
yeah.
It
won't.
Let
me
share
my
screen.
I
think
it
says
you
guys
have
control
over
it
still.
G
O
Mr
chair,
what's
your
daily
all
right,
I'm
gonna
try
to
thread
the
needle
here
and
make
my
question.
I
think
I
got
this.
This
is
a
question
to
staff
so
make
sure
I'm
straight
here
go
back
in
time.
20.
I
think
it's
15
16
whatever
it
was.
The
whole
parcel
right
came
in
front
of
the
commission
for
a
pud
and
was
as
approved
and
at
that
time
it
was
all
for
commercial
uses.
O
It
got
renewed
a
couple
years
later.
Then
the
southern
part
of
this
parcel
came
back
and
was
approved
for
residential,
but
the
northern
part
has
now
since
been
carved
off
and
that
part
is
what's
in
front
of
us,
but
now
we're
claiming
that
the
residential
that
was
approved
is
with
some
conflict
of
the
variance
for
the
drive
through.
Is
that
right.
O
C
I
I
If
we
are
able
to
build
more
pedestrian-oriented
commercial
areas,
then
drive-throughs
should
not
be
considered
part
of
that.
The
southwest
part
of
the
blueprint
boise
specifically
calls
for
pedestrian
oriented
developments
in
the
swccn
1.9,
which
is
the
overland
overland
road
and
five
mile
road
corridors.
It
says
to
encourage
a
more
pedestrian-oriented
development
pattern
along
overland
and
five
mile
roads,
and
so
drive-through
is
next
to
residential
and
especially
those
so
close
that
they
require
variants
from
code.
I
We
do
not
feel
as
compatible
no,
nor
does
it
meet
that
goal
of
boise
blueprint
and
within
that
residential
area.
There
is
also
a
future
playground
right
where
those
two
drive
aisles
intersect,
the
one
coming
off
of
overland
and
then
you'd
have
to
turn
the
corner
to
get
to
the
driveshare.
There's
a
playground,
that's
going
to
go
right
there,
and
so
depending
on
what
goes
in
for
the
drive-through
and
how
popular
it
is.
I
So
we
are.
Our
board
is
very
interested
in
how
this
development
can
be,
can
increase
access
to
the
five-mile
pathway,
which
is
on
the
south
side
of
the
residential
development.
We
we
would
like
to
see,
create
safe
and
convenient
access
to
the
bus,
stop,
which
is
on
overland
just
to
the
right
of
this
commercial
development.
I
We're
not
opposed
to
the
commercial
aspects
of
this
development,
and
our
board
welcomes
more
business
opportunities
in
southwest
boise.
However,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
compatible
and
safe
for
current
and
future
residents
follow
blueprint,
boise
goals
for
the
southwest
and
as
well
as
protect
and
enhance
our
access
to
current
pathways
and
public
transit.
I
I
would
say
that
this,
this
commercial
or
this
residential
development
wasn't
that
didn't
come
before
you
all
that
long
ago
it
was
a
very
very
long
evening
that
one
and
we
we
all
had
our
opportunities
to
to
speak
about
how
that
might
impact
our
community,
then,
and-
and
there
was
no
opposition
about
how
it
might
affect
a
drive
through
window
that
wasn't
mentioned
at
that
time.
So
thank
you.
L
C
AE
AE
I
do
want
to
know.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
we
are
providing
per
blueprint
boise
we
are
providing
and
we
are
promoting
in-field
development
near
mixed-use
activity,
centers
and
a
few
of
the
principles
there
of
supporting
pedestrian
connection
to
adjacent
uses
and
incorporating
outdoor
seating
to
encourage
pedestrian
activity,
as
well
as
our
landscaping
treatments
to
screen
the
surface
parking
from
adjacent
uses.
AE
As
we've
stated
earlier,
we
do
have
an
overland
connection,
which
then
gets
them
to
the
bus.
Stop
we've.
As
shown
earlier,
we
do
bring
that
south.
The
center
of
our
of
our
two
proposed
buildings
there
directly
right
into
that
development
to
the
south,
and
so
we
just
appreciate
it.
We
appreciate
to
work
with
the
neighbors.
I
think
we
can
make
this
work
like
we
stated
this.
This
use
is
not
an
intensive
use
for
a
drive-through,
and
we
appreciate
it
thanks.
D
AG
AC
C
AG
Yeah,
I
think
that
this
original
application
came
in
front
of
us
in
2016
and
the
residential
followed
it,
and
so,
although
I
see
that
the
code
is
pretty
strict
on
that
200
feet,
I
think
that
the
whole
intent
of
this
property,
or
at
least
the
property
where
this
application
lies,
is
that
it
was
going
to
be
commercial.
So
I
think
that
the
fact
that
we
decided
to
develop
residential
next
to
it
following
the
commercial
intent
I
mean,
I
think
that
it
leaves
it
open
for
a
little
bit
of
hardship
on
that
original
applicant.
D
J
J
I
support
commercial
in
this
space,
but
I
just
don't
see
the
drive-through
variance
as
a
fit
and
I
don't
see
the
development
of
residential
as
the
exceptional
circumstance.
I
think
that
the
a
little
bit
to
what
commissioner
danley
alluded
to,
but
even
if
it
wasn't
their
property,
you
know
we.
We
approve
puds
during
a
certain
moment
in
time
and
to
revisit
this
after
an
additional
development
has
gone
on.
J
I
do
think
I
mean
that
we
keep
hearing
from
the
applicant
as
an
argument
that
it's
a
low
use
drive
through,
but
as
we've
heard
from
staff,
we
don't
have
we
don't.
I
mean
we
know
this
just
from
our
own
experience.
We
don't
approve
projects
for
the
tenant.
We
approve
it
for
the
use.
So
for
this
we
would
be
allowing
drive
through
period
not
just
for
baskin
robbins,
but
for
any
kind
of
use.
O
O
You
know,
retail
that
that
to
me
just
doesn't
fit.
I
don't
think.
I
think
this
should
be
much
more
significant
than
what
what
is
being
proposed.
I
understand
the
history
of
the
the
project,
but
to
me,
we're
really
missing
the
mark
on
an
opportunity
for
infill
a
good
quality
infill
that
could
be
even
better
than
what's
being
proposed,
so
at
least
for
the
variance
in
particular
and
the
motion
on
the
floor.
I
can't
support
it.
C
G
Thank
you,
mr
yeah.
I'm
not
in
support
of
you
either
for,
for
the
reasons
already
stated,
the
the
applicant,
the
residential
preceded
the
application,
and
so
just
as
I
said
on
the
previous
project
that
we
discussed
on
state
street.
The
applicant
should
consider
the
existing
conditions
and
then
comply
with
the
code,
and
it's
pretty
clear
that
that's
not
the
case
here
and
I
think
those
future
south
point
cottage
residents
are
will
appreciate
the
protection
that
the
code
provides
them
and
from
this
drive-through
establishment.
C
C
C
B
H
O
C
O
B
Chair,
mr
moore,
so
I
agree
with
the
the
analysis
on
the
variants.
I
think,
with
the
the
order
of
operations
here,
it
was
approved
when
there
was
commercial
behind
there,
residential
got
put
behind
there
and
now
it
conflicts,
and
I
think
that's
that's
pretty
straightforward
and
you
know
the
order
of
operations
were
different.
Perhaps
commercial
did
go
in
behind.
There
obviously
would
meet
that
original
beauty,
but
it
doesn't
so.
I
feel
that
those
those
findings
are
not
what
they
were
when
it
was
originally
approved.
D
C
I'll
sound
off
real,
quick
I'll,
be
in
oh
I'll,
be
in
support
of
the
motion
as
well.
I
love
the
commercial
use
right
here.
I
love
that
there
are
the
townhomes
really
adjacent
to
it,
but
I
do
agree
that
the
the
town
homes
to
the
south
sort
of
that's
the
existing
condition
and
that
now
the
drive-through
is,
does
not
apply
or
is
not
within
code
due
to
the
proximity
of
those
residences,
so
I'll
be
in
support
of
the
motion
as
well.
C
C
O
C
C
All
right
are
we
back.
We've
got
mr
mooney
back
online.
Okay,
all
right
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
again
up
next,
for
us
is
item
number
seven,
which
is
pud
21-70
glancey
rockwell
associates
project's
at
1428
north
etheridge
lane.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
16
multi-family
units.
L
AH
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
the
item
before
you
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
planned
residential
development
on
0.81
acres
located
at
1428
north
etheridge
lane
in
a
c2d
zone.
The
parcel
is
currently
vacant.
The
applicant
proposes
to
construct
three
multi-family
buildings
containing
a
total
of
16
dwelling
units
which
will
act
as
a
transition
between
the
single-family
homes
and
duplexes
to
the
east
and
west,
and
the
commercial
uses
along
fairview
ave
to
the
north.
AH
The
proposed
density
is
19.8
units
per
acre,
where
up
to
43.5
units
per
acre
would
be
allowed
in
the
c2d
zone
and,
as
outlined
in
the
staff
report,
the
project
complies
with
all
pud
requirements.
Each
unit
will
have
100
square
feet
of
private
open
space,
and
the
project
is
also
located
in
close
proximity
to
florence
park.
Sidewalks
will
be
installed
along
etheridge
lane
and
internal
to
the
site,
along
with
a
pedestrian
connection
to
the
adjacent
parcel
to
the
east,
which
is
anticipated
to
redevelop
in
the
near
future.
AH
In
order
to
reduce
impacts
on
the
adjacent
single-family
homes
to
the
southeast.
The
easternmost
building
has
been
situated
towards
the
northern
end
of
the
site.
Fencing
and
landscaping
will
also
be
installed
in
order
to
further
minimize
any
potential
impacts
agency
comments
indicate
that
the
project
will
not
place
an
undue
burden
on
public
facilities
in
the
area.
The
project
is
in
compliance
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
will
be
subject
to
subsequent
design
review
in
order
to
further
ensure
compliance
with
the
city-wide
design
standards.
AI
Good
evening,
james
glancey,
clancy,
rockwell
architects,
1257
river
street,
we're
fully
in
support
of
you,
know,
appreciate
the
report
sabrina's
comments,
so
I
can't
read
see
the
report
there
as
she
said,
we're
well
below
the
density,
the
allowable
density
and
no
our
client
basically
is
concerned.
We
have
a
two-story
building
on
the
west
end
for
the
transition
from
the
neighborhood,
so
there's
two-story
homes
in
the
neighborhood
wanted
to
kind
of
relate
to
them
on
ethridge
the
site.
AI
We
did
three
story
which
are
well
below
the
height
limit
allowable,
which
is
45
or
34
to
the
mid
height
of
the
roof,
and
I'm
aware
that
the
project
to
these
to
this
is
going
to
be
all
three-story
as
well.
So
we
think
we
fit
fine
well
within
the
neighborhood
and
the
plan
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
if
there
are
any
otherwise
appreciate
your
approval.
R
AJ
All
right
well
yeah,
chris
cockrell
gen,
460
saranac
drive
and
I'm
the
president
of
the
west
boise
neighborhood
association,
our
association
split
into
six
different
residential
districts.
So
I
guess
four
testimonies
specifically,
you
know
I
targeted
our
coal
residential
area
when
we
were
asking
for
comments
and
input
from
the
community,
so
just
giving
you
some
background
on.
You
know
this
is
input
that
and
concerns
that
come
from
specific
individuals
that
live
in
that
neighborhood,
I'm
going
to
go
just
walk
through
real
quick.
AJ
AJ
And
I
know
there
were
some
alterations
right
with
the
connectivity
as
far
as
getting
pedestrian
traffic
so
potentially
get
through.
I
know
that
was
something
we
really
appreciated.
Seeing
as
a
consideration,
I
think
that'll
add
a
lot.
You
know
having
the
park
there
and
both
sides
of
the
of
those
that
undeveloped
area,
I
think
that'll-
add
a
lot
to
the
community.
AJ
Obviously,
management
plans
will
there
be
on-site
or
off-site
management?
That's
not
really
something
that
planning
and
zoning
can
handle
too
much
with
right.
There's
not
a
lot
of
repercussion,
but
that
was
a
concern
that
came
up
in
discussions
is
putting
you
know.
The
most
of
the
people
in
the
area
are
homeowners,
and
you
know,
as
you
start
to
put
in
rental
properties,
and
you
get
more
transient
nature
in
what
you
see
right.
You
see
a
rise
in
criminal
activity
right.
AJ
How
that
would
be
covered
was
something
that
was
a
concern
to
the
residential
folks
that
lived
there
and
also
surveillance
was
something
that
was
brought
up.
You
know,
I
know
in
this
room,
there's
nine
different
cameras.
If
you
look
around
there's
very
good
surveillance
and
and
just
saying
hey,
if
you're
going
to
move
higher
density
residential
into
this
area,
right
which
right
now,
I
would
say,
it's
not
really-
it's
still
pretty
low
density
right,
it's
not
as
obviously
low
as
some
of
the
areas,
but
but
it's
still
definitely
not
apartment
complexes.
AJ
So
so
surveillance
is
something
that
that
they
were
interested
in.
You
know
hey!
Is
that
something
that
the
developers
kind
of
looked
at?
We
hadn't
really
heard
anything
one
way
or
another
on
that
impacts
on
wireless
coverage
right,
there's
a
large
cell
phone
tower,
that's
right
there
adjacent,
and
that
was
something
that
you
thought:
hey
you're,
going
to
put
a
three-story
building
in
there.
What
does
that
do
to
coverage
for
communications
right?
How
does
that
impact?
Our
networks-
and
you
know
specifically
wireless-
is
what
I
would
assume.
AJ
But
again
I
don't
know
I
haven't
seen
any
studies
that
kind
of
lay
out
what
kind
of
impacts
that
would
or
wouldn't
have-
and
I
don't
love
being
I'm
an
electrical
engineer,
but
I'm
not
a
communications
engineer.
So
that's
not
my
strength,
so
I
yeah.
I
definitely
am
not
the
one
that
would
want
to
speak
to
something
like
that.
I
think
the
last
two
items
that
that
were
brought
up
compatibility.
AJ
You
know
when
I
look
at
this
area,
I
don't
see
any
three-story
uses
right.
I
feel
a
little
inaccurate
because
I
just
saw
you
approve
a
five-story
complex
next
to
a
single-family
dwelling.
But
when
I
look
at
all
the
other
uses
in
this
area,
I
don't
see
three-story
homes
right.
I
don't
see
three-story
anything.
I
don't
see
well,
there's
a
huge
cell
tower,
that's
there
and
that's
definitely
over
the
height
of
the
three
stories,
but
that
that
is
another
concern.
AJ
You
know
he.
It
was
mentioned
that
the
transitioning
on
the
west
side
of
the
property
two
unit
two-story
units
and
then
up
to
three-story
units,
but
it
fails
to
mention
that
on
the
east
side
of
the
property,
there's
also
a
single-family
home,
that's
adjacent
right
and
so
you're
going
to
put
a
three-story
apartment,
complex
looking
into
somebody's
backyard,
and
that's
not
something
that
you
know
I'm
very
excited
about,
and
I
know
the
neighbors
you
know
didn't
really
view
that
as
a
a
great
plan.
Moving
forward.
AJ
AJ
You
know
I
try
to
separate
that
there's
differences
between
land
use
and
zoning
and
that
those
aren't
exactly
the
same
concepts,
and
I
know
I
started
reading
the
code
and
it
reads-
concentrate
tallest
buildings
or
tallest
portions
of
buildings,
away
from
adjacent
single
family
homes
provide
gradual
decreases
in
building
height,
so
that
new
structures
are
comparable
in
scale
to
adjacent
single
family,
and
then
it
talks
about
one
story,
differences,
and
I
realize
that
that's
not
applicable
here.
Looking
at
the
code
details,
it
does
have
an
exception
where
it
says.
AJ
Well,
it
actually
doesn't
apply
if
it's
significant
new
development
redevelopment
right
when
you
look
at
blueprint
boise
and
what
that
shows,
because
this
is
adjacent
to
the
commercial
strip.
I
guess-
or
I
don't
know
it's
not
commercial.
It
was
something
else.
The
whatever
the
area
of
stability
or
change
is
called
right.
It
is
technically
in
that
so
so
I
mean.
Obviously
it
is
allowable
right,
but
it's
something
that
when
I
look
at
this,
I
think.
AJ
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
make
the
same
type
of
neighborhood
as
what
the
people
that
live
there
would
like
it
to
look
like,
and
I
think
that's
a
lot
of
what
planning
and
zoning
is
meant
to
do
is
to
look
and
say
hey.
What
is
that
vision?
What
do
we
plan
this
to
look
like,
so
maybe
it's
deficiency
on
my
part.
AJ
Maybe
I
need
to
work
more
on
getting
more
plans,
nailed
down
and
putting
more
restrictions
in
line
to
either
change
different
parts
of
our
not
the
code,
but
at
least
the
the
stuff
that
applies.
Maybe
the
zoning
in
that
area
to
try
to
get
it
where
I
think
the
community
would
be
happy.
But
my
observation
is
it's
not
just
this
area
where
I've
seen
developments
go
in,
but
there's
other
areas
where
I
I
tend
to
feel
the
same
way
as
I
look
at
it.
AJ
I
think,
oh
well,
if
we
really
didn't
want
that
there,
maybe
we
need
to
do
something
a
little
different
to
make
that
happen,
and
obviously
that's
not
on
you
guys.
I
do
want
to
at
least
take
a
second
thank
you
for
listening
to
everybody.
Rant
you
have
a
thankless
job
and
I
acknowledge
that
and
I'm
really
impressed
with
the
city
staff.
I
know
when
I've
worked
with
them,
I'm
a
pain
in
the
butt
right.
Like
totally,
I
ask
for
things
that
are
probably
unreasonable.
AJ
I
complain
I'm
very
political,
so
I
like
to
whine
about
things
and
and
yeah
I've.
I've
got
really
helpful
advice
and-
and
I,
like
I
said,
I'm
impressed
how
a
political
the
staff
is
so
when,
when
they
don't
have
to
do
that,
they
do
a
really
good
job
being
professional,
and
I
appreciate
that
I
think
that's
a
really
good
thing
to
have
in
government.
So
any
questions.
C
B
So
question
for
staff,
so
with
residential,
that's
located
in
a
commercial
zone.
If
there
were
commercial
to
develop,
say
in
the
commercial
portion
to
the
north,
that
kind
of
c2d
zoned
area,
they
would
have
an
increased
setback,
because
this
is
a
residential
use.
Even
though
it's
in
a
commercial
zone.
B
AH
D
D
AI
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
I'll,
be
short,
sweet
everybody
yeah
some
of
the
questions.
Again
we
kept
it
lower
density
intentionally
because
the
owner's
concerns
about
the
neighborhood,
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
So
we
tried
to
not
go
to
the
maximum.
Our
pre-application
meeting
the
city
asked
us
to
go
to
a
higher
density.
We're
allowed
to
go
more
and,
as
we
all
know,
the
city
wants
more
density,
the
parking
we
have
a
little
more
parking
than
the
minimum,
but
we
felt
that
this
neighborhood
needed
it.
The
units
are
all
two
bedroom,
two
bathroom
good
quality.
AI
AI
AI
AI
We
think
we're
a
good
transition
between
mcdonald's,
which
is
the
high
use
on
the
north
and
single
family,
but
the
single
family
home.
In
particular.
We
tried
to
move
as
far
away
from
it
as
possible
allowed
for
more
screening
the
decks
on
there.
We
have
a
solid
screening
on
the
decks,
so
it's
not
going
to
be
it's
going
to
give
privacy
to
both
parties,
but
it
will
be
definitely
a
change
to
their
habitat.
AI
B
P
B
Absolutely
so,
and
I
think
yeah
the
earlier
project
was
brought
up
a
few
times
and
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
another
example
of
that
c2
zoning
adjacent
to
an
r1
zoning,
and
I
think
this
is
kind
of
a
buffer
potentially
for
something
like
that
yeah,
it's
more
density.
It
could
be
appropriate
here.
It
is
in
the
commercial
zone,
but
it
could
reasonably
act
as
a
buffer
too.
B
In
terms
of
the
height
the
height,
that's
proposed
actually
complies
with
the
r1b
zone,
so
I
don't
see
a
conflict
there.
The
biggest,
I
guess,
heartache
that
I
get
is
just
because
of
this
residential
use
going
here.
It
will
require
that
additional
buffering
in
the
adjacent
commercial.
When
that
parking
lot,
it
looks
like
in
the
future
develops.
B
J
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion,
as
I
did
with
my
second
for
the
reason
stated
in
the
staff
report,
and
I
I
support
commissioner
moore's
comments.
I
did
want
to
just
take
a
moment
to
address
the
pretty
offensive
and
discriminatory
comments
on
renters
that
we
heard
tonight
from
the
neighborhood.
Renters
are
not
necessarily
transients
or
criminals.
J
As
you
stated,
we
have
surveillance
in
here,
mainly
because
we
have
residents
and
commissioners
online
who
are
attending
and
participating
virtually
and
also
because
we've
been
threatened
pretty
regularly
from
homeowners,
not
renters.
For
the
most
part,
I
think
you
know
the
renters
can
be
are
most
often
contributing
members
of
society,
so
I
guess
I'll
leave
it
at
that,
but
I
support
the
mission.
C
C
What
we
foresee
is
a
more
high
density
corridor
in
the
future,
whereas
this
one
set
back
a
little
further.
You
know
from
fairview
and
milwaukee,
so
I
think
they've
they've
struck
a
nice
balance
here
with
the
density
and
the
use
and
treating
this
as
a
transition
zone
with
everything
that's
happening
in
this
area.
So
I'm
in
support
of
the
motion
and
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
role
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
from
commissioner
moore
and
a
second
from
commissioner
stead.
This
is
pud
21-70.
Will
the
clerk?
O
C
Okay,
very
good.
Thank
you,
commissioner
dan
lee.
Let
the
record
show
mr
danley
has
recused
himself
from
this
item.
Have
a
good
night,
commissioner
danley.
So
we
are
car,
21-4,
pud,
21-69
and
sub-21-63,
says
rodney,
evans
and
partners.
The
address
is
2314
south
broadway
avenue.
This
is
a
rezone
of
approximately
1.55
acres
from
r1c
to
r2d,
an
associated
conditional
use
permit
for
plant
residential
development
containing
17
dwelling
units
and
then
a
preliminary
plat,
and
we're
going
to
hear
from
mr
david
mosher
from
staff.
Thank.
AK
You,
mr
chair
commissioners,
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
rezone
from
r1
from
r1c
single
timer
residential
to
an
r2d,
medium
density,
residential
designer
view
zone
located
at
2315,
south
broadway
avenue,
a
condition
conditions
permit
for
plan
resident
residential
development
containing
17
dwelling
units
and
a
preliminary
platform
residential
subdivision
comprised
of
17
buildable
lots.
One
common
lot
on
approximately
1.14
acres
is
proposed,
as
you
can
see
from
the
aerial
photograph.
AK
The
neighborhood
is
a
mix
of
residential
uses,
which
includes
single-family,
duplexes
and
multi-family
developments
to
the
west,
with
office
and
commercial
uses
located
along
broadway
avenue
and
as
seen
on
this
slide,
the
requested
r2
zone
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
neighborhoods,
since
the
json
properties
are
zoned
r1c
to
the
west
and
north
with
commercial
and
office
zoning
to
the
east
and
south.
It
is
also
compatible
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
as
it
designates
the
site
as
mixed
use
on
the
land
use
map
within
which
the
proposed
r2
zone
is
allowed
and
anticipated.
AK
The
r2
zone
will
also
act
as
a
transition
between
the
commercial
uses
along
broadway
avenue
and
the
single
family
residential
neighborhood
to
the
west.
This
is
the
site
plan
before
you.
The
development
consists
of
15
attached,
three-story
townhouses
and
two
detached
single-family
homes
on
1.4
on
1.14
acres.
The
project
design
includes
protecting
the
existing
historic
single-family
house
on
the
property.
AK
The
development
consists
of
three
groups
of
five
attached,
townhomes,
two
of
which
are
oriented
towards
melrose
street,
and
the
third
town
homes
group
is
located
interior
to
the
site.
In
addition,
a
new,
a
new
two-story
detached
single-family
house
will
be
located
along
the
north
property
line
and,
as
previously
stated,
the
historic
house
will
be
protected.
AK
Reduced
interior
setbacks
and
lot
sizes
are
also
requested
with
the
subdivision.
The
project
provides
two
parking
spaces
per
unit
with
guest
parking,
and
the
amenities
proposed
include
a
large
amount
of
open
space
surrounding
the
existing
historic
house,
drought,
toilet
landscaping,
and
there
are
two
parks
in
nearby
and
close
to
the
prop
to
the
project.
AK
As
per
the
late
correspondence
memo,
the
commission
should
have
received
a
new
recommended
condition
of
approval
requests,
an
increase
in
tree
size
plant,
the
tree
size
being
planted
on
site
to
two
and
a
half
caliber
inches.
This
will
ensure
tree
mitigation
requirements
are
met,
in
summary,
all
required.
Findings
for
the
rezone
and
the
planning
development
have
been
complied
with.
AK
First,
I
would
like
to
note
that
the
planning
team
did
receive
a
letter
of
support
from
for
the
project,
but
it
came
in
late
and
could
not
be
forwarded
to
commission.
However,
several
neighbors
did
express
concerns
with
the
project
in
terms
of
traffic
along
melrose
street
and
compatibility
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
The
main
issue
with
the
traffic
is
that
melrose
street
is
a
narrow
roadway
and
there
will
be
congestion
at
the
intersection
of
melrose
and
broadway
avenue.
AK
AK
However,
the
planning
team
contends
that
it
is
eligible,
since
it
is
adjacent
to
an
artillery
roadway
with
the
transit
route
and
to
answer
the
neighbors
concerns
regarding
the
townhomes.
I
would
note
that
multi-family
living
use
standards
of
the
development
code
are
to
be
applied
to
all
multi-all
new
multi-family
developments
and,
according
to
this
development
code,
multi-family
developments
can
be
comprised
of
different
housing
types
for,
for
example,
section
1163.2c
of
the
multi-family
living
use
standard,
specifically
states
town
homes
are
an
acceptable
housing
type
within
multi-family
developments.
AK
AK
AL
Good
evening
ben
semple,
with
rodney
evans
and
partners,
one
four
five:
zero
west
bannock
street
boise,
idaho
83702
yeah.
I
want
to
thank
david
for
his
staff
report
as
well
as
the
rest
of
the
staff.
That's
helped
us
navigate
this
process.
We
are
in
agreement
with
all
the
conditions
of
approval
contained
in
the
staff
report.
Just
wanted
to
highlight
a
couple
things
about
the
process
that
we
went
through
to
get
to
where
we
are
the
rezone
from
r1c
to
r2d.
AL
AL
During
that
process,
we
identified
that
there
were
some
issues
with
setbacks
at
that
northwest
corner
adjacent
to
existing
single-family
residential.
A
couple
of
them
are
town
homes.
I
think
there's
a
duplex
there.
We
did
adjust
our
plan
to
provide
a
15-foot
setback
to
that
structure.
We
actually
exceed
the
setback
on
the
north
side,
it's
closer
to
about
20
feet
from
there,
so
we
dropped
17
units
when
we
look
at
the
17
units
on
the
1.14
acres
that
gets
us
to
14.9
units.
AL
And
so
we
feel
like
we're
more
than
complying
with
density.
The
r1c
zone
around
there
to
the
north
and
to
the
west
does
have
a
variety
of
housing
types
in
there
there's
also
some
lod
zoning
to
the
south.
That
does
have
an
apartment
complex
on
it
multi-family
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
want
to
say
it's
12
units,
but
I
can't
remember
that
I
didn't
write
that
one
down
so
another
big
part
of
this
project,
the
home
on
the
site
right
now
was
designed
by
turtlet
and
hummel.
AL
AL
Unfortunately,
because
of
the
the
work
that's
done,
we
don't
qualify
for
the
federal
program,
but
we
are
still
going
to
maintain
that
home.
There's
an
addition
off
the
north
side
of
the
home.
That
was
added
at
some
point
that
will
be
taken
off
and
then
a
covered
porch
off
the
back.
That
was
added
at
some
point
which
we
would
be
removing
as
well.
The
facade,
the
historic
facade
of
that
building
will
not
be
changed.
AL
It
has
original
river
rock
from
the
boise
river
that
was
brought
there
and
placed
on
the
columns,
there's
some
really
cool
detailing
of
the
actual
facade
and
the
structure
that
we
look
forward
to
preserving
and
enhancing
with
the
renovation
to
be
sold
as
a
single-family
residential
home.
Again
there
were
some
concerns
voiced
in
a
letter
about
the
maintenance
of
that
historic
structure
and
the
potential
for
it
to
be
demolished
in
the
future.
AL
Any
historic
structure
can
be
demolished.
It
doesn't
preclude
it
just
if
it's
historic,
but
with
by
placing
a
design
review
overlay
on
the
site,
it
adds
an
extra
level
of
protection
with
the
new
design
or
the
new
demolition
code.
That's
within
the
city
of
boise
as
well.
That's
on
top
of
the
fact
that
the
building
is
obviously
over
50
years
old,
which
would
require
a
certificate
of
zoning
compliance
to
demolish
anything
there.
AL
AL
AL
Let's
see
to
talk
about
the
the
impacts
of
this
site,
so
just
to
point
out
a
couple
numbers
28
of
the
site
will
be
dedicated
to
the
lot
that
contains
the
existing
historic
home.
So
more
than
a
quarter
of
that,
one
acre
plus
will
be
dedicated
to
that
site.
That
allows
us
to
maintain
a
lot
of
the
historic
trees
that
are
on
the
site.
We
will
be
cleaning
up
the
landscaping
immediately
adjacent
to
the
structure
because
it
is
pretty
overgrown.
AL
It
has
been
occupied
as
a
single-family
residence,
but
there's
been
some
maintenance,
letdowns
I'll
call
it
35
of
the
site
will
also
be
a
common
lot,
including
landscaping.
Buffers
on
the
west
and
east
they're
outside
of
that
historic
lot,
the
drive
aisles
the
mailboxes
bike
racks,
so
everything
that's
within
those
areas
will
be
maintained
by
the
hoa.
So
there
will
be
some
pretty
heavy
protections
for
those
to
be
maintained
in
a
positive
way
for
the
neighborhood
42
percent
of
the
site
is
landscaped
areas
that
includes
buffering
along
broadway.
AL
AL
We
have
decided
to
detach
that
sidewalk
make
a
five-foot
detached
sidewalk
and
provide
a
10-foot
landscape
buffer
there
or
landscape
strip
for
class
1
trees,
which
is
required
in
by
achd
to
be
10
feet
wide.
It
also
doubles
as
a
protection
for
the
existing
gravity,
irrigation,
lateral
that
runs
parallel
to
broadway
there.
AL
AL
The
home
in
the
northwest
corner
will
have
two
surface
parking
spots
on
their
lot.
There
will
also
be
five
on-site
guest
parking
spots,
three
towards
the
front
and
two
more
towards
the
back.
We
did
not
count
melrose
street
for
any
on-street
parking
to
count
towards
our
requirements,
although
if
I
remove
50
feet
of
the
approach
towards
broadway
on
melrose,
that
still
leaves
us
with
approximately
175
linear
feet
of
curb,
excluding
our
curb
return
entry
into
the
project,
so
that
can
accommodate.
AL
I
don't
off
the
top
of
my
head.
It's
like
six
cars,
I
believe
on
the
street
there,
maybe
even
seven.
I
believe
that
they'll
restrict
our
ability
to
park
too
close
to
the
intersection
of
broadway
and
melrose.
We
will
have
to
do
detached
sidewalk
with
curb
gutter
along
melrose.
It
widens
the
street
on
the
north
half,
so
it
will
improve
the
condition
slightly.
There
is
some
curb
gutter
sidewalk
on
the
south,
half
further
towards
the
west
as
you
go,
and
so
that
we
feel
like
we're
accommodating
plenty
of
traffic
plenty
of
parking.
AL
We
are
going
to
also
be
working
with
a
timber
harvest
company
so
that
any
large
caliper
trees
that
have
to
come
down
because
of
the
development.
If
they're
evaluated
as
beneficial
to
be
used
in
future
woodworking
products
projects,
they
will
be
harvested,
and
so
they
won't
be
chipped
or
cut
into
firewood.
AL
There's
some
really
nice
catalpas
and
some
stuff
like
that
that
I've
already
been
in
contact,
they've
reviewed
the
trees,
they're
interested
and
so
I'll
be
meeting
with
them
again
yeah.
I
guess
that
that
really
kind
of
sums
it
up.
We
feel
like
this
is
a
really
great
transition
from
the
broadway
corridor
into
the
single
family
neighborhood.
These
are
all
single-family
residential
product
and
even
if
they're
rental
apartments,
I
think
it'd
be
a
great
project
too.
C
G
AL
C
AL
Mr
chair,
they
were
not
added.
I
was
still
having
conversations
with
the
irrigation
district
about
whether
they'd,
let
us
put
trees
in
there
actually
because
of
the
proximity
of
the
roof
system
to
the
pipe.
They
indicated
it's
a
fairly
small
delivery
line,
and
so,
if
you
know
when
we
get
in,
I
mean
we're
intending
to
add
them.
If
we
get
into
construction
and
there's
some
issue
with
that,
we
would
address
it
by
moving
more
trees
behind
the
sidewalk
to
comply
with
the
the
tree
requirement
along
the
street,
as
is
typical,
gotcha.
C
B
AL
AL
AK
AC
AK
Mr
chair
members,
commission,
the
design
review
stand,
or
at
least
the
citywide
design
guidelines
do
require
to
have
entrances
front
onto
onto
roadways.
I
do
believe
the
end
unit
there
for
the
townhouse
does
have
a
door
facing
it
along
along
with
either
keeping
the
traditional
historic
house
cool.
Thank
you.
D
C
AM
AM
At
that
corner
of
broadway
there
and
from
our
house
we
see
almost
daily
people
getting
hit
by
cars,
we're
trying
to
walk
up
from
up
melrose
up
to
get
to
the
on
the
broadway.
You
know,
because
there's
a
major
bus
stop
routes,
there
there's
school
routes
there
and
people
going
to
and
from
school
a
lot
of
jobs.
A
lot
of
traffic
coming
up
down
this
street.
AM
The
other
concern
is
with
the
irrigation
system.
I
know
that
property
has
an
irrigation
system
on
it.
I
would
like
to
know
how
that
was
going
to
be
handled,
that
I
would
not
think
that
all
the
other
new
properties
on
that
location
would
be
not
eligible
for
the
irrigation
and
the
one
that
was
there.
They
flooded
the
entire
property
with
the
irrigation
system
why
they
occupied
the
residence
and
used
up
quite
a
bit
of
water.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
water
shortage
in
idaho
here
now.
AM
D
C
AL
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
ben
semple,
with
rodney
evans
partners,
yeah
to
address
mr
adams
comments
and
concerns.
Melrose
street
will
be
improved
on
the
north
side
along
the
the
property
southern
boundary.
It
will
remove
those
shrubs
it
does
widen
the
pavement.
Then
there
will
be
an
eight
foot
planter
strip
with
street
trees
and
then
a
five
foot
detached
sidewalk
all
the
way
down
the
melrose
frontage
that
will
tie
into
rebuilt
sidewalk
along
the
eastern
frontage
of
the
property
along
broadway.
AL
AL
The
majority
of
the
lawn
on
this
property
is
associated
with
the
historic
home.
It's
part
of
that
historic
setting
that
we're
trying
to
maintain
as
much
as
possible
that
is
pretty
heavily
shaded
by
a
lot
of
trees,
so
we'll
redesign
that
system
to
make
sure
that
it's
efficient
and
then
all
of
the
beds
with
shrubs
and
trees
will
be
drip.
Irrigated,
so
it'll
help
with
water
reduction
of
water
use,
and
I
would
stand
for
additional
questions.
C
L
B
AC
B
Let
that
building
stand
out
because
the
river
rock
I'm
familiar,
I
drive
by
the
building,
often
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
that.
I
think
you
know
typically
on
broadway.
I
might
like
to
see
some
sort
of
commercial
or
something
like
that,
but
I
do
think
that
for
this
particular
site,
the
site
plan
is
appropriate.