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C
All
right
everybody
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
Boise
City
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
public
hearing
a
few
things
to
start
out
with
for
tonight's
proceedings.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
virtually
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak.
As
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you
will
be
called
upon
and
unmuted
there
is
a
chat
function
in
Zoom.
This
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
C
Our
procedures
for
public
hearings
begins
with
a
presentation
from
the
planning
team,
then
we'll
go
to
the
applicant
and
then
the
representative
of
the
registered
neighborhood
association,
followed
by
questions
from
the
commission.
After
that,
we
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
are
in
person,
then
who
signed
up
on
the
sign
up
sheets
in
advance
and
then
anyone
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
if
you're
attending
through
your
telephone,
you
can
type
in
Star
9
to
raise
your
hand.
Finally,
each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
for
Testimony.
C
D
Thank
you
Crystal
good
evening.
Everybody
welcome
to
the
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
OAC
planning,
Boise,
City,
Planning
and
Zoning
commission.
We
are
assistant
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
the
city
council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
conditional
use,
permits,
variances
and
appeals
and
recommendations
to
the
city
council
on
subdivisions,
rezones,
annexations
and
plan
or
comprehensive
code
amendments.
D
Any
decision
made
tonight
maybe
appeal
to
the
city
council,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
That's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight.
D
We
utilize
the
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
if
there
is
no
public
opposition,
their
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion.
Without
further
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will
hold
a
full
public
hearing,
we'll
Begin
by
hearing
from
staff,
then
the
applicant
and
then
questions
from
the
commissioners.
D
Public
testimony
begins
after
representative
of
the
registered
neighborhood
association.
After
that
we
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
on
the
sign
up
sheet.
Each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
for
Testimony
through
the
sign
ups.
We'll
then
do
folks
that
are
online.
Who
may
wish
to
testify.
F
A
A
D
Okay,
we
have
a
few
items
on
our
agenda
tonight
eligible
for
consent,
we'll
start
with
those
items.
First,
first
of
those
items
is
item
number
one.
This
is
PUD
23-14,
Beacon
engineering
and
surveying
the
address
is
1526
North,
steelwood
Avenue.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development.
Comprised
of
19
multi-family
units
on
0.58
acres
in
a
c2d
Zone
is
the
applicant
present
tonight.
D
D
D
This
is
PUD
23-8
Walsh
homes.
This
was
deferred
from
our
July
10th
meeting
of
this
year.
The
project
address
is
3712
North,
Patricia
Lane.
This
is
a
modification
to
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
to
add
a
multi-family
unit
on
0.65
acres
in
an
r1c
Zone,
and
is
the
applicant
present
tonight
great?
Let
the
record
show
the
applicant
is
present
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report?
F
D
D
J
D
K
D
Okay,
very
good,
all
right
items,
one
of
five
have
been
approved
on
the
consent
agenda.
Thank
you
very
much.
We'll
go
ahead
and
move
back
to
the
top
of
our
agenda
tonight
and
move
on
to
item
number
two.
This
is
PUD
22-13
jgt
architecture
project
addresses
are
at
4819,
West,
Morris,
Hill,
Street
and
300
North
Orchard
Street.
Excuse
me
this
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
78
multi-family
units
on
2.32
acres
and
a
c2d
Zone,
and
an
R2
Zone
General
exception
to
apply
the
commercial
zoning
standards.
G
Good
evening,
Mr,
chair
and
Commissioners
the
item
before
you
use
PUD
2313,
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
plan,
residential
development
comprised
of
78
multi-family
units
located
at
4819,
Morris,
Hill,
Road
and
300
Orchard
Street
on
2.32
acres
and
the
c2d
and
R2
zones,
a
general
exception
to
apply
the
commercial
zoning
standards
to
the
entire
project,
as
well
as
a
height
exception,
are
also
included.
The
subject
property
is
located
along
the
Orchard
Street
commercial
Corridor,
with
residential
uses
surrounding
and
and
it
is
in
a
mixed,
usually
and
use
designation.
G
The
applicant
proposes
to
utilize
the
general
exception
to
apply
the
c2d
zoning
designation
to
the
entire
project
as
Allowed
by
the
development
code
in
order
to
allow
for
increased
density
and
reduce
setback
along
Morris
Hill
Road,
the
planning
team
finds
the
proposed
General
exception
appropriate.
As
the
subject
property
is
located
along
an
arterial
street
with
public
transit
Additionally.
The
majority
of
the
product's
density
is
oriented
along
Orchard
Street,
away
from
the
single-family
neighborhood
to
the
east.
A
condition
of
approval
requires
the
applicant
to
record
a
personal
consolidation
prior
to
the
submittal
of
building
permits.
G
The
applicant
is
also
requesting
a
headache
session
from
45
to
47
feet
to
the
parapet
of
the
four-story
building
adjacent
to
Orchard
Street.
All
other
buildings
will
meet
the
height
requirements
of
the
development
code
in
the
town
home
style.
Building
adjacent
to
the
single
family
neighborhood
will
be
a
maximum
of
32
feet
to
the
parapet.
G
The
site
is
designed
to
place
three
largest
apartment
buildings
around
a
courtyard
with
amenities
adjacent
to
Orchard
Street
and
to
place
one
townhome
style
building
along
Morris
Hill
Road.
The
number
six
bus
line
runs
along
Orchard
Street
and
there
is
a
bus
stop
at
the
corner
of
Morris
Hill
and
Orchard
less
than
100
feet
from
the
subject.
Property
Morrisville
Road
is
also
designated
as
a
level
one
Bikeway
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
have
all
vehicle
access
taken
from
Morris,
Hill,
Road
and
achd
has
approved
this
proposal,
as
outlined
in
the
project
report.
G
G
Public
opposition
was
received
concerning
the
initial
site
layout,
with
concerns
expressed
about
density,
height
traffic,
vehicle
access
and
design.
However,
the
applicant
has
redesigned
the
site
to
concentrate
most
of
the
density
and
height
along
Orchard
Street
away
from
the
adjacent
single
family
neighborhood
and
has
one
town
home
style,
building
along
Morris
Hill
Road
closer
to
the
single
family.
Neighborhood
subsequent
comments
have
been
received
with
concerns
about
traffic
and
pedestrian
infrastructure.
A
K
L
Record:
okay,
good
evening,
Mr,
President
and
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Kevin
Amar.
My
address
is
1580
West,
cayuse,
Creek
Drive
in
Meridian
and
I'm
here
tonight,
representing
300
Orchard
Apartments.
It
is
a
project
that
is
it
sits
or
repoposits
on
a
formerly
the
stinker
station
site,
as
well
as
the
stinker
Station
corporate
offices.
L
We
have
gone
through
the
process
of
remediating
any
gas
station
residual
uses
and
it
has
been
released
by
DEQ
that
was
oversawed
by
DEQ.
So
any
of
those
issues
are
remediated
and
and
taken
care
of
this
project.
We
have
we
started
a
while
ago.
We
met
with
neighbors
and
we've
met
with
staff,
and
the
layout
that
we
see
tonight
is
not
the
one
we
started
with
and
I
believe
through
working
and
listening
to
what
the
neighbors
have
to
say,
as
well
as
hearing
staff
concerns
and
addressing
some
of
their
ideas
to
redesign.
L
We
have
a
much
better
project
than
what
we
started
with
so
with
that.
This
is
we're
proposing
78
units,
there's
31,
one
bedroom
units
and
47
two-bedroom
units.
The
majority
of
the
units
are
concentrated
on
the
west
portion
of
the
property
in
the
C2
Zone
and
those
are
all
three
well
two
three
story:
buildings,
one
four-story
building
concentrated
around
a
Central,
Park
or
mu.
L
Had
people
helping
me
so
we
removed
one
of
the
concerns
that
we
got
from
the
neighbors
as
well
as
staff
was
originally,
we
had
more
of
a
central
parking
area
and
the
buildings
were
were
around
the
perimeter
of
the
site
which
slide.
That
is
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
minute.
We
have
changed
it
to
this,
which
we
feel
like
is
a
much
more
cohesive
area.
It
fronts
for
the
majority
on
Orchard.
We
do
have
some
town
home
units
that
front
on
Morris
Hill.
One
of
the
other
changes
that
we
made.
L
L
This
is,
as
we
stated,
C2
and
R2
zoning.
The
majority
of
the
density
is
in
the
C2
zoning.
There
are
10
units
that
are
in
the
R2.
Zoning
Which
is
less
than
would
be
required.
In
that
same
it's
about
one
acre.
We
could
be
up
to
14
units
in
that
one
acre,
and
then
we
rotated
that
building
also
to
try
to
minimize
the
impact
on
on
the
the
neighbor
and
there's
only
one
balcony
addressing
that
neighbor
we'll
get
to.
L
So.
If
we
look
at
in
the
bottom
or
the
top
left
hand
corner
is,
was
the
original
design
we
had
some
Park
and
three-story
units
around
the
perimeter
with
parking
concentrated
in
the
center.
The
bottom
right
hand
is
now
what
we
propose
working
with
again
with
the
neighbors
hearing,
their
comments
and
working
with
staff,
concentrating
the
buildings
up
towards
Orchard,
with
a
nice
park,
setting
playgrounds
and
Gathering
areas
and
then
moving
the
the
parking
and
providing
a
landscape
buffer
from
our
neighbor
to
the
east,
so
it
minimizes
any
balconies.
L
L
The
buildings
as
they
sit
I'm
sure
if
I'm
smart
enough,
there's
a
pointer
here
right.
Sorry,
you're.
L
L
You
can
see
here
in
this
bottom
section
with
the
balconies
only
on
the
second
floor,
so
there
will
be
no
balconies
on
the
third
floor
and
no
way
for
people
to
recreate
outside
the
the
second
and
third
floor
are
a
our
one
unit.
So
you
have
your
first
floor.
Is
a
one
bedroom
one
bath.
The
second
floor
is
a
living
area
with
a
balcony,
and
then
the
third
floor
is
two
bedrooms
with
that
for
that
living
area.
This
of
the
balcony.
So
we
get
to
oh
there.
It
is
this
section
right
here.
L
These
are
those
balconies,
the
one,
the
one
property
next
to
us
has
one
balcony.
The
rest
of
them
are
divided
and
and
kept
away
from
the
the
existing
neighbor.
So
we
will
be
completing
the
road
improvements
on
both
Orchard,
as
well
as
on
Morris
Hill
per
staff
recommendations,
as
well
as
achd
recommendations,
detached
sidewalk
and
and
improving
those
roads
in
both
sections
we
again
I
feel
like.
We
have
addressed
those
comments.
L
A
lot
of
the
comments
that
came
in
initially
were
based
on
our
initial
layout
and
we've
we've
worked
to
hear
those
people
address
those
comments
and
then
provide
with
you
tonight
what
we
we
have
before
you.
So
we
appreciate
your
time
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and,
let's
request
your
approval.
Okay,.
L
D
You
do
you
have
anyone
from
the
Morris
Hill
neighborhood
association
present.
K
So
we'll
steal
a
little
bit
of
commissioner
Schaefer's
Thunder
here
and
I
I
guess
I'd
be
a
little
bit
concerned
about
snow
removal.
We
get
heavy
snow.
Where
are
you
guys
going
to
put
snow?
We
don't
have
any
covered
parking,
so
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
snow
so.
L
We
deal
with
snow
removal.
A
lot
and
actually
covered
parking,
creates
a
bigger
issue
for
us
with
snow
removal,
because
then
you
have
the.
Not
only
can
you
not
remove
the
snow,
but
you
also
have
the
the
carports
or
the
stanchions
from
those
carports
that
create
an
area
that
are
in
the
way.
So
we
feel
like
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
get
back
to
a
I,
don't
know
how
to
get
back
to
the
slides.
L
We'll
find
the
right
one.
Thank
you.
There
we
go
so
we
do
have
in
planning
for
snow
removal.
There
are
years,
obviously
that
is
limited,
snow
and
there's
years
that
are
heavier
snow.
So
we
have
to
deal
with
that.
So
there
are
areas
that
I
would
say.
You
know
we
can
concentrate
some
snow,
but
we
try
not
to
block
because
obviously
parking
is
a
big
deal
large
areas
of
parking.
L
If
we
have
and
we've
had
to
do
it
in
the
past,
we'll
haul
it
off
site,
that's
in
extreme
years,
I
think
we
only
did
that
during
snowmageddon,
but
we
we
are
aware
of
snow,
that's
a
we
live
in
Idaho
and
that's
I,
guess
one
of
the
reasons
I
like
living
in
Idaho.
Thank.
I
D
D
K
D
So
we've
got
we're
dealing
with
a
two
different
zones
here
in
C2
and
then
the
R2
zones,
the
C2
Zone
Dimensions
they're,
going
to
apply
those
to
the
the
project
as
a
whole
for
the
benefit
of
all
of
us
here
tonight.
Can
you
just
summarize
what
what
the
changes
are
from,
like
the
setbacks
in
C2
versus
the
R2.
G
Mr,
chair
Commissioners
in
general,
the
C2
and
the
R2
zones
have
very
similar
setbacks
when
it
comes
to
being
adjacent
to
residential
and
single
family
residential,
especially
the
same
setbacks
for
the
C2,
would
apply
for
the
R2
on
the
Eastern
side
of
the
property,
really
the
C2
setbacks.
The
only
change
is
adjacent
to
Morris
Hill.
Instead
of
having
a
20-foot
setback,
they're
allowed
a
10-foot
setback.
G
The
general
exception
also
increases
the
height
of
the
overall
project
to
45
feet
from
35,
which
they're
concentrating
along
Orchard
and
away
from
that.
A
single
family
zoning
and
the
other
thing
would
be
density
would
be
allowed
to
be
higher
in
the
C2
to
Stone
than
the
R2
Zone.
N
Just
had
a
question
for
staff,
so
in
the
public
comment
there
was
some
commentary
about
like
sidewalks
on
Orchard
and
Garden
Street
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
walk
us
through
The
Pedestrian
connectivity
of
this
application,
or
at
least
it
looks
like
to
me
that
we're
adding
sidewalks
everything's
there,
so
maybe
what
they're
talking
about
is
maybe
the
corner.
That
is
not
a
part
of
the
application,
but
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
walk
us
through
that.
G
G
A
D
O
Sir
I
actually
worked
on
a
Adu
for
The
Neighbor
Next
Door
a
couple
years
ago,
so
I'm
familiar
with
the
site
and
for
this
kind
of
town,
home
property,
my
understanding
is
the
maximum
height
in
the
R2
zone
is
35
feet,
but
this
town,
home
building
the
town
home
style
building,
is
32
feet.
So
it's
actually
meets
the
R2
dimensional
standards,
with
exception
to
the
front
setback.
Is
that
correct.
G
I
I
Following
the
same
line
of
reasoning
as
a
commissioner
Moore
or
discussion,
the
the
town
homes
along
Morse
Hill,
so
the
question
for
staff
town
is
along
Morris
Hill.
If
we
were
to
extend
that
R2
across
then,
obviously
there's
some
neighbor
testimony
written
testimony
regarding
missing
middle
housing
and
a
lost
opportunity
for
urban
infill.
But
it
appears
that
what
we're
going
to
see
there
on
the
east
side
of
this
parcel
is
matching.
What,
as
commissioner
Moore
said,
a
kind
of
a
missing
Middle
Town
Home,
is
that
that
accurate.
G
G
D
P
Mark
henningfield
4815,
Corporal,
Street
I'm,
just
north
of
the
town
home
the
town
home
I'd
like
to
commend
actually
I'd
like
to
commend
the
architect
for
changing
things
around
from
the
first
thing.
P
The
the
reason
why
I'm
here
is
that
the
town
home,
even
though
they
did
change
it
to
where
the
balconies
are
on
the
South
Side,
not
on
the
North
side.
Now
the
windows
are
still
on
the
North
side
and
if
you
want
to
look,
this
is
a
picture
of
what
it
would
look
like
from
the
third
story,
Windows
into
my
backyard.
Okay.
P
This
is
the
second
story.
Now
these
were
taken
at
this
was
taken
at
18
feet.
The
third
story
was
taken
at
28
feet,
so
you
could
see
it
it's
a
bit
of
a
difference
to
be
looking
into
my
backyard,
and
this
was
a
10-foot
setback.
The
Drone
was
10
feet
off
the
Orchards,
I
mean
off
Morris
Hill
and
it
went
up
18
feet
then
28
feet.
P
The
only
other
thing
that
I'd
like
to
say
is
that,
hopefully,
as
you
could
see,
the
outlet
onto
Morse
Hill
is
aligned
with
North
Stanley
North
Stanley
is
a
one.
Little
tiny
Block,
Street
Corporal
Street,
the
street
I
live
on
tees
into
Stanley.
P
There
is
a
Alleyway
that
goes
if
you
go
up
to
the
end
of
Stanley
to
the
left,
there's
an
Alleyway
between
those
homes
and
McDonald's.
It's
just
about
one
lane.
The
problem
that
I
see
is
that
as
the
as
the
road,
the
entrance
and
exit
for
the
apartments
aligned
with
Stanley,
there
might
be
a
there
might
be
some
people
who
want
to
go
there
and
cut
down
Corporal
or
go
up
to
the
end
and
cut
into
the
alleyway
to
get
out
on
Orchard.
P
Instead
of
maybe,
if
there's
a
lion
on
Orchard
The,
Orchard
Street
light
there,
it
takes
three
and
a
half
minutes
for
it
to
turn
green
when
you're
on
Morris
Hill
to
turn
green
onto
Orchard.
P
That's
one
of
the
problems.
The
other
problem,
of
course,
is
that
at
the
corner
of
Stanley
and
Morse
Hill
there
is
a
child
care
center.
There
she
has
eight
or
nine
kids.
The
parents
stop
off
right
there
on
Stanley
to
drop
the
kids
off
in
the
morning
and
also
pick
them
up
in
the
afternoon.
If
people
are
coming
out
of
the
apartment
complex
and
going
straight,
that
presents
a
problem
with
mothers
or
fathers
dropping
their
kids
off
or
picking
them
up.
P
P
A
D
D
Maybe
pull
that
mic
down
a
little
bit,
please
great.
Q
We
have
address
is
three
four:
eight
Islamic
Center
with
the
five
shops
grants
and
we
have
in
the
back
food
bank
is
498-4911
and
we
have
a
kitchen
there
and
we
have
a
school
for
the
kids.
Q
The
area
is
too
small
for
us.
We
have
in
four
of
okay
occasion,
I
mean
celebrate
Ramadan
maharram
Ashura
and
we
are
a
school
every
two
days
in
the
week
we're
having
a
kitchen
playing
around,
and
there
is
every
time
we
have
in
almost
between
100
to
150
people,
and
sometimes
we
don't
have
parking
to
park
all
these
people.
We
go
to
the
gas
station,
the
one
behind
right.
Now
they
fancy
to
make
an
apartment.
We
get
permission
from
them,
so
we
put
all
the
community
on
that
side.
We
can
get
agreement
from
them.
Q
So
that's
the
we
having
a
problem
right
now
with
this
Community
we're
having
some
corruption
going
on
so
we're
filing
against
it
to
the
guy.
He
took
the
money,
so
we
have
a
problem
with
this
guy,
so
we
don't
know
how
we're
gonna
work
with
you
guys
for
this
Building
Development
this
department
around
the.
D
D
L
Thank
you
again
for
the
record
Kevin
Amar,
a
couple
of
the
items
that
I
heard
that
I
could
address.
One
of
the
items
had
to
do
with
setbacks
and
although
we
are
trying
to
apply
the
C2
zones
in
the
R2
area,
the
setbacks,
we
have
a
20-foot
setback
instead
of
the
10
foot,
setback
on
that
on
that
front
area
and
we're
maintaining
our
side
yard
setback.
L
So
we
we
really
were
trying
to
keep
in
mind
the
zoning
of
that
area
and
make
sure
we're
not
increasing
you
know,
setbacks
or
density
or
the
use
that
we
could
get.
Otherwise
that
would
be
allowed
in
the
in
the
R2
zoning.
So
we're
not
going
to
be
10
feet
off
the
road.
We
will
be
well
our
setback's
20
feet
currently,
as
proposed.
L
We
can
look
at
that
I
guess,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
really
restrict
that
with
you
have
to
turn
right
and
turn
left
so
I,
don't
know
how
to
go,
restrict
straight
so
overall
we
we
appreciate
staff's
comments.
We
appreciate
their
input.
We
appreciate
the
neighbor's
input.
I
I
know
that
sometimes
developers
and
neighbors
are
at
odds,
and
it
feels
like
at
this
at
this
project
we
feel
like
we
were
able
to
work
together
and
come
up
with
a
you
know,
a
better
compromise
than
what
we
had
originally
proposed
and
I.
L
D
D
I
I
move
that
we
approved
PUD
220013
for
all
the
terms
and
conditions
stated
in
the
staff
report.
Second,
thank.
D
D
I
Yeah
Mr,
chair
I,
agree
with
everything
in
staff
report
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
compromise
application
that
the
applicant
obviously
worked
well
with
the
neighborhood.
It's
a
great
compromise
with
the
c2r2
zone
and
it
matches
the
city's
vision
for
that
Corridor.
Regarding
comments
from
the
from
the
Neighbors
about
backyard
privacy,
we
can't
really
protect
that.
That's
not
a
land
use
issue
that
we
could
do
anything
about,
and
the
traffic
signal
timing
that
we
would
see
at
that
intersection.
There
should
be
able
to
be
solved
by
achd
in
the
future.
K
Chair,
if
I
could
really
pleasure,
yeah
I
appreciate
the
thought
that
you
guys
have
put
into
redesigning
this
project.
I
knew
it
took
some
time,
but
thanks
for
bearing
with
staff,
because
this
is
one
where
we
just
have
to
get
it
right,
it's
on
a
big
Corridor,
that's
important
to
the
bench
I
will
commend
you
as
Milt
would
expect
me
to
on
not
bringing
us
a
slot
development
where
we
could
see
through
on
Orchard
Street
into
your
development,
because
we
don't
want
that.
K
The
one
thing
I
would
suggest,
because
you're
going
to
have
to
go
through
design
review
is
really
pay
attention
to
the
materials
because
it
doesn't
look.
It
looks
much
more
urban
than
it
did
before.
What
you
came
to
us
with
before
was
like
a
really
Suburban
looking
development
and
just
like
really
pay
attention
to
the
context.
K
All
my
architect,
friends
up
here
would
agree
with
that,
like
the
context
of
where
this
is
It's
really
in
like
a
central
urban
area
of
the
city-
and
it
is
the
the
materials
especially
should
should
reflect
that.
But
overall
you
know
we're.
This
is
an
area
we've
wanted
to
see
housing
like
that
in
it's
perfect
for
it.
K
We
need
this
kind
of
Redevelopment
along
Orchard
and
emerald,
and
all
these
neighborhoods
in
central
bench,
so
I'm
grateful
for
the
housing
and
I
just
yeah
when
you
go
to
Dr
pay
attention
to
the
the
small
stuff,
because
it's
going
to
matter
on
that
project.
So,
but
thank
you.
A
D
Okay,
a
couple
of
things:
just
real,
quick
I'm,
going
back
to
the
testimony.
I
agree
with
all
the
sentiments
so
far,
I
think
it's
a
great
project,
appreciate
your
flexibility
and
working
with
the
neighbors
to
make
it
better.
I
think
it
was
a
better
product
than
your
initial
plans
to
the
questions
and
comments
about
achg
and
the
traffic
flow.
D
That's
really
sort
of
an
hcg's
purview,
so
you
can
I'd,
encourage
you
all
in
the
neighborhood
to
continue
to
talk
to
hhd
as
the
traffic
pattern
changes
once
this
once
this
development's
in
place,
because
they're
really
the
folks
they
handle
the
write-in
right
out.
That
sort
of
thing.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
a
change
that
occurs
in
the
neighborhood,
so
I
continue
to
support
you
in
talking
with
achd
about
those
changes
as
needed,
and
then
you
know
it
is
going
to
be.
D
It
sounds
like
it'll,
be
a
busy
neighborhood
with
the
Islamic
Center,
so
again,
change
there
and
I
think
just
continue
to
work
with
the
neighbors
right
and
be
as
Cooperative
as
possible.
It
sounds
like
there's
quite
a
bit
of
activity
around
that
Islamic
Center
from
time
to
time,
so
there's
probably
gonna
be
a
little
bit
of
growing
pains
here,
as
everybody
gets
settled
with
this
new
change
in
the
neighborhood,
but
again
I'm
supportive
of
the
project.
I
think
it
looks
really
good.
D
Okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll
again.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
by
commissioner
Mooney
with
a
second
by
commissioner
Gillespie,
with
all
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report.
E
D
Great
thanks,
everybody:
okay,
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
item,
which
is
item
number
three.
This
is
car
23,
-9
and
PUD
23-10,
Ronnie,
Evans
and
partners
LLC.
This
was
deferred
from
our
July
10th.
Meeting
project
address
is
11880
West,
Overland
Road.
This
is
a
rezone
of
approximately
3.5
Acres
from
r1a
to
r3d
and
then
also
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
138
multi-family
units
on
3.5
acres
in
the
pending
r3d
Zone.
There
is
also
a
height
exception,
included.
R
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission.
The
item
before
you
is
a
request
for
a
rezone
of
approximately
three
and
a
half
acres
located
at
11880
West
Overland
Road
from
r1a
to
r3d.
A
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
138
multi-family
units
and
a
height
exception
are
also
included.
R
The
subject
property
is
located
approximately
230
feet,
east
of
the
intersection
of
Cloverdale
and
Overland
roads,
the
ride
and
ball
Canal
abuts,
the
property
to
the
west
and
Five
Mile
Creek
up.
That's
the
property
to
the
north,
the
surrounding
areas
comprised
of
a
mix
of
uses
including
single-family
homes,
multi-family
Apartments,
a
vacant
parcel
and
office
and
Commercial
uses
the
site
is
designated
as
commercial
on
the
future
land
use
map
within
which
the
proposed
r3d
zone
is
allowed.
R
The
applicant
proposes
to
construct
two
four-story
apartment
buildings
containing
a
total
of
138
units.
Vehicular,
access
to
the
site
will
be
provided
by
a
single
driveway
onto
Overland
Road,
and
a
recommended
condition
of
approval
requires
the
applicant
to
provide
vehicular
cost
access
to
the
adjacent
parcel
to
the
east.
If
it
is
redeveloped
for
residential
use
in
the
future,
the
applicant
proposes
to
replace
the
existing
attached
sidewalk
along
the
site's
Frontage
on
Overland
Road,
with
a
detached
10-foot
shared
use
path.
R
The
height
exception
is
anticipated
to
have
minimal
impact
on
adjacent
properties
due
to
the
separation
between
the
proposed
apartments
and
the
adjacent
uses.
As
shown
on
this
slide,
written
opposition
was
received
for
multiple
members
of
the
public.
The
full
comments
are
included
in
your
packets
and
the
primary
concerns
are
summarized
on
this
slide.
Comments
were
also
received
from
the
southwest
data
County
Alliance,
requesting
specific
modifications
to
the
project
as
detailed
in
your
packets.
R
S
All
right,
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
Ben
Semple
with
Rodney
Evans
and
partners,
1450
West,
Bannock,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho
83702
I
also
have
Jesse
Hamilton
here
with
the
development
team
and
Brian
Wenzel
from
the
Architecture
Firm
I'd
like
to
share
a
little
bit
of
time
with
Jesse.
So
he
can
give
kind
enough
an
overview
of
he's.
One
of
the
owners
of
the
development
team.
So
I'd
like
him
to
say
a
few
words
and
then
I'll.
A
S
A
T
Good
evening
Mr,
chair
Commissioners,
and
thank
you
for
your
time,
Maverick
development
Prides
itself
on
providing
housing
options
in
high
quality
of
life,
cities
which
Boise
exemplifies
we
have
been
doing
business
in
the
Boise
Market
since
2018..
In
fact,
all
seven
of
our
projects
currently
in
our
pipeline
are
all
within
the
Boise
market
area.
That
is
how
much
we
believe
in
this
market
and
our
commitment
to
this
Market
going
forward.
T
There
are
numerous
factors
we
take
into
account
when
identifying
great
projects.
One
key
factor
is
location.
The
ability
to
provide
high
density
centrally
located
Transit
oriented
communities
is
critical
for
the
greatest
livability
for
our
tenants
and
our
homeowners,
Ascent
Overland,
said,
project
provides
an
ideal
location
and
an
ability
for
us
to
provide
an
attainable
rental
housing
option
for
the
residents
of
Boise
in
a
city
that
is
need
of
these
housing
options.
S
All
right,
Mr,
chair
and
members
of
the
commission
we
have
Jesse
Hamilton
was
just
wanted
to
kind
of
speak
to
the
concept
and
the
theory
behind
why
Maverick
development,
the
developer
of
this
project,
wants
to
pursue
this
this
project
and
the
efforts
they've
gone
to
to
come
to
where
we
are
today.
So,
first
and
foremost,
we
are
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
contained
within
the
staff
report.
S
S
You
know,
as
she
stated,
the
rezoning
of
this
is
compatible
with
the
commercial
land
use
designation,
that's
on
this
property
and
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
it's
the
most
appropriate
for
the
property
as
it
abuts
residential
uses.
Pretty
much
on
three
sides.
There
is
a
vacant
parcel
to
the
east.
It's
connected
to
some
single
family.
It
is
in
a
Suburban
land
use.
So
initially
there
was
a
project
proposed
here
that
was
larger,
that
included
that
Eastern
parcel.
S
But
after
talking
with
staff,
r1c
was
the
densest
or
the
the
highest
use,
I
guess
of
that
Eastern
parcel,
which
obviously
does
not
work
with
the
current
model
of
of
what
the
the
proposal
is
here.
So
we
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
looking
at
just
this
parcel
here.
That
is
again
in
that
Resident
or
the
commercial
land
use.
All
the
affected
agencies
and
departments
have
provided
feedback
to
us
and
any
concerns
with
fire
and
solid
waste.
S
We
addressed
make
sure
that
we
have
an
accessible
route
all
the
way
around
here
and
that
all
the
trash
enclosures
are
accessible
and
serviceable
by
solid
waste,
and
then
we
will
be
going
through
a
future
design
review
application
on
this
project.
S
So
there
will
be
some
additional
review,
specifically
materials
colors,
as
well
as
some
additional
feedback
on
site
design
if
they
need
to
provide
that
the
r3d
zone
does
provide
a
transition
from
The
Busy,
Overland
Road
Corridor,
by
providing
both
Visual
and
sound
barriers
to
the
homes
north
of
Five
Mile
Creek,
while
the
build
and
I
want
to
touch
on.
Also,
we
did
perform
a
traffic
impact
study
on
this
site.
Achd
had
no
concerns
with
the
traffic
generated
from
this
project.
It
falls
within
the
allowable
level
of
service.
S
So,
while
these
buildings
are
taller
than
the
surrounding
signal
family
homes,
as
indicated,
I've
got
a
couple
exhibits
here.
Most
of
these
are
contained
within
the
staff
report
that
you
had
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
blueprint,
Boise,
the
building,
design
and
character.
We
have
multiple
volumes
and
masses
here.
S
Here,
as
we
were
looking
at
this
site
and
multiple
site
visits,
as
well
as
aerial
photos
and
during
the
neighborhood
meetings
that
we
had
both
initially
on
the
original
design
and
then
touching
bases
again
with
them
on
the
new
redesign
with
just
this
one
parcel,
we
identified
some
areas
that
are
lacking
some
vegetative
cover
that
runs
along
Five,
Mile
Creek.
So,
as
you
can
see
in
a
couple,
these
areas
were
planning
to
plant
some
additional
Evergreens
to
fill
in
there's
kind
of
a
gap
along
the
middle
of
the
site.
S
Here
so
planting
some
Evergreens
in
here
and
then
working
Within,
These
bubbles
indicate
the
existing
riparian
vegetation
that
falls
along
Five,
Mile
Creek,
so
really
finding
appropriate
species
and
locations
to
fill
those
gaps
to
provide.
S
As
you
know,
as
long
of
a
screen
there
as
possible
during
the
growing
season,
not
only
just
in
the
summer
when
everything's
leafed
out-
and
there
was
some
feedback
from
Boise
parks
and
the
Forestry
Department-
that
they
really
were
excited
about
the
the
tree
varieties
locations
as
well
as
the
preservation
of
that
riparian
area
within
the
Five
Mile
Creek,
specifically
the
floodway-
and
we
will
be
looking
to
enhance
that
riparian
area
not
only
with
trees
but
some
additional
shrub
plantings,
I'm
kind
of
working
with
forestry
and
then
trying
to
find
a
way
to
plant
and
improve
that
area
without
impacting
the
floodway
and
all
everything
that
comes
along
with
that
and
by
by
doing
those
native
plantings,
we'll
also
ensure
the
longevity
of
the
habitat
that
is
currently
there
for
a
lot
of
waterfowl
that
enjoys
Five
Mile
Creek,
because
that's
a
drain
in
our
irrigation
system
never
be
piped,
can't
be
closed.
S
S
In
fact,
we
meet
or
exceed
all
of
the
setbacks
of
this
this
site,
primarily
because
of
the
floodplain
and
floodway
that
fall
on
the
site
and
that
flood
plain
condition
is
why
we're
requesting
the
height
exception
of
two
feet:
to
go
to
47
feet
that
47
feet
is
going
to
be
measured
on
the
north
side
of
that
building
to
about
the
midline
of
the
the
roof
structures.
S
Overland
Road
is
approximately
four
feet
higher
than
the
site
where
the
building
will
fall
on
the
fine,
the
Finish
floor
on
the
bottom
floor,
so
that
puts
that
midline
of
that
roof
below
actually
the
45
foot
height
when
viewed
from
Overland,
and
we
feel
like
that.
The
distance
from
these
buildings
to
the
adjacent
residential
homes
will
really
help
mitigate
some
of
the
additional
height
there,
primarily
because
you're,
looking
at
some
trees
that
are
anywhere
from
40
to
probably
close
to
70
feet
tall
along
that
riparian
corridor.
S
S
This
is
a
higher
aerial
view,
looking
from
the
south
side
of
yeah,
looking
from
the
south
side
of
Overland,
showing
the
planned
trees
along
the
frontage
here,
as
well
as
some
of
the
trees
that
we're
filling
in
here
and
then
trying
to
replicate
some
of
the
heights
of
the
existing
vegetation.
That's
along
the
north.
There
again
this
with
the
the
distance.
S
This
one
isn't
as
clear
as
the
one
that
Sabrina
pulled
up,
but
there's
approximately
265
feet
from
the
north
side
of
these
buildings
to
adjacent
residential
homes,
north
of
the
creek
and
then
I
believe
it's
100
and
65
feet
to
the
multi-family
project.
That's
south
of
Overland
Road!
So
not
only
do
they
have
that
much
distance,
there's
also
the
Overland
Road
Corridor
there
again
going
back
to
the
density.
You
know
this
site
could
support
43
and
a
half
units
per
acre
with
138
unit
project,
we're
proposing
it's
at
38.8
units
per
acre,
So
Below.
S
The
density
that
would
be
allowed
here,
it's
kind
of
a
tricky
site
with
floodplain,
is
really
driving
a
lot
of
this,
and
we
really
looked
at
wanting
to
fully
Park
this,
which
it
is,
it
actually
has
more
parking
than
than
is
required,
but
not
in
excess
of
what
code
allows
us
to
exceed
it.
S
We
did
look,
and-
and
this
is
touched
on
in
in
the
staff
report
as
well-
that
the
this
project
is
supported
by
policy
three
of
the
Southwest
Community
comprehensive
plan,
which
encourages
new
residential
development
that
is
designed
to
facilitate
public
transportation
and
other
alternate
Transportation
modes
other
than
a
single
occupancy
vehicle.
We've
been
working
with
VRT
to
identify
a
spot
along
the
frontage
of
this
project,
probably
very
close
to
the
entry
of
this
project
to
install
either
an
additional
bus,
stop
or
relocation
of
the
bus.
S
Stop
that's
currently
at
Cloverdale
and
Overland
Road
intersection
that
will
help
facilitate
and
encourage
people
to
use
that
bus
and
right
now,
VRT
has
asked
for
us
to
put
in
the
standard
concrete
pad
that
falls
between
the
curb
and
that
10-foot
multi-use
pathway
in
the
future.
After
they've
evaluated
some
ridership,
they
may
install
a
full
shelter
there
at
the
bus.
Stop
that
would
be
in
front
of
this.
I
also
wanted
to
touch
on
that
bike
parking
on
this
project.
S
We
have
138
bike
stalls
inside
the
building
in
storage
rooms,
and
that
is
one
bike
per
unit
in
a
storage
room,
not
in
the
unit.
So
if
a
if
a
resident
want
to
take
another
bike
up
to
their
unit,
they
could
too
anything
additional
to
that
is
outside
for
guests.
So
obviously,
we've
far
exceed
the
requirement
of
covering
25
percent
of
the
bike
racks.
On
this
project
we
did
review
the
Southwest
data.
S
County
Alliance
feedback
I
spoke
with
the
president
of
their
Association
multiple
times
a
lot
of
it
had
to
do
with
the
bus,
stop
which
we've
already
been
reaching
out
to
VRT
to
talk
about,
and
then
one
of
the
other
ones
that
they
had
suggested
in
their
letter
was
a
pedestrian
Crossing
to
the
Future
to
facilitate
connection
to
that
future.
S
Low
stress
Bikeway
on
lesasso-
that's
east
of
here-
definitely
supportive
of
a
Crossing
I'm,
a
little
concerned
that
there's
concerns
about
traffic
and
stuff
backing
up
on
Overland
and
then
wanting
to
install
an
additional
crosswalk,
that's
fairly
close
to
the
Cloverdale
and
Overland
intersection.
That
is
fully
signalized
with
The
Pedestrian
Crossing.
It's
you
know
a
few
hundred
feet,
so
it
could
make
a
difference.
I
just
want
to.
S
You
know
we'll
work
with
the
neighborhood
association
and
the
developers
indicated
they
will
provide
a
supportive
letter
to
achd,
encouraging
them
to
install
some
sort
of
Crossing,
especially
to
help
facilitate
that
low
stress
Bikeway.
There
I
think
it
comes
out
of
Sumter
onto
Overland,
and
then
it's
going
to
have
to
jog
over
to
lazaso.
S
So
the
the
recommendation
of
incorporating
commercial
on
the
first
level
doesn't
really
achieve
the
goal
of
what
the
developer
is
looking
to
do,
which
is
to
increase
housing
in
Boise
generally
and
primarily
in
this
area
as
well,
and
we
feel
like
a
commercial
use
on
the
first
level
here,
would
increase
the
need
for
more
parking
and
probably
increase
traffic
trips
into
the
space.
S
Additionally,
there
is
a
community
Activity
Center
at
Five,
Mile
and
Overland
Road
Which
is
less
than
a
mile
to
the
East
and
some
additional
vacant
LOD
zones,
a
limited
office
Zone
within
half
a
mile
that
could
redevelop
with
some
additional
office.
Retail
commercial
type
uses
there.
So
we
feel
like
that,
really
will
help
capture
a
lot
of
these
vehicle
trips
that
any
residents
of
this
project
would
be
looking
for
as
well
as
provide
for
employment
opportunities
for
residents
as
well.
S
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
looking
for
apartments
right
now,
a
lot
of
them
tend
to
fall
in
areas
that
don't
have
access
to
opportunities
for
jobs
and
services
like
this.
So
we
feel
like
it
is
a
great
spot
that
will
help.
S
Initially.
This
was
when
both
or
all
these
Parcels,
between
lozaso
and
Cloverdale
were
were
going
to
be
included
in
the
in
the
project.
The
developer's
still
open.
To
exploring
that.
When
we
looked
at
a
location,
it
falls
primarily
in
the
floodway,
which
cannot
be
a
hard
surface.
It
has
to
be
a
permeable
surface
and
with
some
of
the
topography
and
that
area
it'd
be
really
difficult
to
provide
an
accessible
to
all
route
through
the
north
side.
S
There,
on
an
on
a
permeable
surface,
again
still
looking
at
the
potential
for
that
willing
to
work
with
the
neighborhood
association
to
identify
that.
But
we
feel
like
The,
Pedestrian
connectivity
and
really
activity
is
desired
to
be
along
Overland
to
really
you
know,
bring
eyes
onto
the
street
and
with
the
10-foot
Maltese
pathway
along
there.
S
It
really
reinforces
that
all
the
storm
water
runoff
one
of
the
last
items
that
was
from
the
neighborhood
association
stormwater,
will
be
collected
on
site
and,
as
is
required
by
Idaho
code,
kept
on
site
and
infiltrated
into
the
ground,
primarily
through
some
subsurface
infiltration
beds,
as
well
as
some
surface
swales
out
in
the
landscape
open
space.
S
We
got
some
additional
public
comments
regarding
and,
as
Sabrina
pointed
out,
regarding
perfect
parking,
traffic
and
density
and,
as
shown
in
both
achd
and
the
City
of
Boise
staff
report,
the
project
meets
or
exceeds
a
lot
of
the
requirements
of
the
code,
and
we
believe,
really
provides
for
an
attractive
Redevelopment
of
this
site
that
provides
for
additional
housing
units
that
will
help
alleviate
some
of
the.
The
issues
that
this
community
is
is
currently
going
through.
S
I
would
stand
for
any
additional
questions.
Okay,.
D
C
U
D
D
E
N
N
On
this
space
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
the
Bills
going
up
in
this
area
is
just
residential
and
we're
missing
that
opportunity
to
put
commercial
in
with
residential
and
make
it
truly
like
mixed
use,
and
so
I
know
that
Ben
talked
about
car
dependency,
but
we
I
mean
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
that
dependency.
If
we
don't
put
some
commercial
in
this
area,.
R
Yeah
Mr
chair
commissioner
friend
Brock.
You
know
the
site
is
designated
as
commercial
on
the
future
land
use
map.
You
know
we
do
typically
anticipate
to
see
commercial
office
and
residential
uses
in
that
area,
sometimes
a
mix
of
uses
on
the
same
site.
R
This
property
is
a
little
unique
with
having
the
canal
and
the
creek
on
two
sides
of
it.
It
does
kind
of
cut
off
opportunities
for
cross
access
with
the
other
commercial
sites
in
the
area.
You
know
it
does
seem
well
suited
for
residential
use
with
that
in
mind.
But
if
the
commission
does
have
concerns,
there's
an
option
to
require
a
commercial
component.
V
Mr
chairman
thanks
Sabrina
quick
question
about
the.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
in
the
public
comments
and
the
record
about
the
bicycle
facilities
in
The
Pedestrian
facilities.
Essentially,
does
that
boil
down
to
creating
a
new
pedestrian
bike
Crossing
on
Overland
that
lines
up
with
the
entrance
to
this
division
subdivision
or
this
project?
Is
that
essentially,
what
all
of
that
boils
down
to?
V
R
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Gillespie.
My
understanding
of
those
comments
is
that
they
have
been
requesting
achd
to
require
a
pedestrian
Crossing
near
the
intersection
of
lozazzo
and
Overland.
R
A
V
R
A
I
Mr
Mr
chair,
he's
John
another
pull
on
that
string,
some
more
question
for
the
applicant.
I
If
it's
a
mile
between
these
two
Crossings
Cloverdale
to
Five,
Mile
and
clearly
a
seven
Lane
Mobility
arterial
40
mile
per
hour,
speed
limits
with
a
pedestrian-oriented
high
density,
multi-family
apartment
complex
needs
a
Crossing
somewhere
in
there
and
obviously
the
neighborhood's
looking
at
Lozano.
Would
the
applicant
be
willing
to
contribute
to
that
as
a
condition
it's
off-site.
It'd
have
to
be
mid-box.
It
would
be
also.
S
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Mooney,
you
know,
that's
a
I
I,
don't
know
if
achd
is
supportive
of
it,
whether
or
not
it
was
contributed
to
financially
I'd
have
to
talk
to
the
development
you
know
company
and
make
sure
that
they
could
understand
what
the
financial
obligation
would
be
there,
as
well
as
run
through
a
bunch
of
other
meetings
with
achd.
S
While
we
would
like
to
have
one
there,
you
know
there's
a
crossing
that's
much
closer
than
a
mile.
It's
I
think
it's
only
about
300
feet
to
the
intersection
of
Cloverdale
and
Overland.
So
you
know
Crossing
there
at
a
signalized
intersection
would
facilitate
that
connection
right
now,
I'm,
not
even
sure
how
they
planned
across
Overland
with
the
low
stress
Bikeway
or
if
they
intend
to
push
everyone
to
Cloverdale.
S
V
Just
to
close
this
off
because
I
can't
figure
it
out,
could
you
put
up
a
site
map
and
or
a
general
map
of
this
area
and
show
me
where
lassasso
is.
O
A
N
I
had
a
follow-up
question
for
Sabrina
too.
So
in
the
achd
comments
they
addressed
parking
and
it
was.
It
was
interesting
because
I,
the
parking
is
sufficient
for
this
project.
Right
I
thought
that's
what
I
read,
but
then
on
the
in
this
actual
correspondence
they
list
that
the
applicant
is
providing
173
on-site
parking
spaces,
but
it
provides
less
parking
than
the
193
required
by
itd
parking,
General
Emanuel.
So
I
think
this
is
a
two-part
question,
but
what
why
are
they
referencing,
the
itd
manual?
Do
we
reference
that
or
how?
R
Mr
chair
commissioner
pin
Brock
when
we
review
applications,
we
co-paced
off
of
the
parking
requirements
and
our
codes
that
were
set
by
Boise
city
council
when
they
adopted
the
code.
I
believe
they're
just
referencing
that,
as
a
general
reference
of
what
they
would
anticipate,
this
type
of
development
need
for
parking.
A
N
Okay,
so
maybe
I
don't
even
need
this
follow-up,
but
achd
recommends
that
the
city
of
Boise
require
adequate
on-site
parking
for
the
development,
so
just
to
confirm,
like
you
just
said,
we've
already
done
that
based
on
city
code,
Mr,
chair,
commissioner
friend
drop,
that's
correct,
I
wish
when
they
recommend
something
they
could
just
spell
it
out
like
what
type
of
how
many
parking
spaces
do
you
want,
but
that
didn't
happen.
It
wasn't
I,
don't
even
think
it's
an
added
condition.
So
thank
you.
A
F
Brian
hi
Commissioners,
Brian,
Wenzel,
pivot,
North
architecture,
116,
South,
6th
Street,
Boise
Idaho;
we've
got
20,
Studios
73,
one
bedrooms,
45
two
bedrooms
and
that
equals
the
138
units.
Okay,.
D
Great
so
Brian,
these
are
all
obviously
we're
talking
Apartments.
This
is
the
what
is
the
maybe.
This
might
be
a
question
for
Jesse
too,
but
young
professionals
like
is
there
a
market
that
we're
targeting
with
this?
These
particular
units.
Y
F
D
Okay,
okay,
great
and
the
reason
I
ask
is
maybe
where
we
might
maybe
Ben
might
chime
in
is
the
site
plan
feels
a
bit
lacking
in
amenity
I,
see
a
lot
of
parking
and
I
see
sidewalks
and
I
got
a
little
bit
along.
So
you
know,
we
see
a
lot
of
applications
that
come
through
here
and
you
know
it's
a
mix
right.
Maybe
it's
housing
for
families,
so
you
see
a
playground
right,
but
you
just
speak
to
how
you
develop
the
site
plan
because,
like
I
said,
it
feels
just
a
little
bit.
D
Maybe
like
certainly
not
a
priority.
Maybe
making
sure
you
have
the
canal
and
you've
got
some
constraints.
T
A
little
bit
yeah
one,
it's
the
location
first
off-
is
the
amenity
providing
that
access
to
where
you
work
to
getting
to
where
you're
going
to
work
the
majority,
you
know
five
days
a
week,
then
having
that
access.
The
other
part
that
we
look
at
is
that
attainability
from
a
rent
rate,
as
you
start,
adding
in
pools
everything
there
within
those
communities,
it
drives
up
your
rental
rates.
T
Those
are
those
are
all
cost
additives
that
get
passed
on
to
those
tenants
and
they
burden
them
when
those
amenities-
and
you
start
looking
at
the
studies,
the
actual
utilization
of
those
items
is
very
low.
People
aren't
utilizing
a
lot
of
those
amenities,
but
we
put
them
in
because
it
looks
good.
It
looks
good
on
paper.
It's
a
selling
feature
that
ends
up
just
driving
up
those
rental
rates.
Now
we
did
add
amenities
within
the
interior
of
the
units,
your
fitness
center,
those
common
areas,
because
those
one
those
lower
their
monthly
costs.
T
They
don't
have
to
go
to
the
gym.
They
have
access
to
that
amenity
there
and
that
recreational
area,
but
by
adding
in
those
additional
cost
items
that
I
agree.
They
look
good
on
a
site
plan
right
they're,
attractive,
but
the
location
within
this
point
is
the
Five
Mile
Creek.
It
is
the
general
location
so
that
you
do
have
that
quick,
easy
access
within
the
community
of
Boise,
okay,.
O
So
I
have
a
question:
I
think
this
one's
going
to
be
for
Ben
on
the
flood
plan
and
just
looking
at
where
the
building's
finished
floor
is
sitting.
So
it
looks
like
you're
a
few
feet
above
that
kind
of
part-back
parking
area.
It
may
be
a
few
feet
below
over
line,
so
your
finished
floor
is
kind
of
sitting
in
the
middle
of
that,
but
just
slightly
below
Overland.
Is
that
correct.
S
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Moore.
Yes,
that's
correct,
so
the
majority
of
this
site,
where
the
building
sit
is
approximately
four
feet
up
below
the
Overland
Road
sidewalk.
That's
right
there
now
so
by
setting
that
the
base
of
that
building
two
feet
above
that
or
the
finished
floor
of
the
lower
level
two
feet
above
that
elevation
of
the
site
we're
two
feet
below
the
elevation
of
the
sidewalk
on
Overland
and
two
feet
above
the
back
of
it.
So
I
mean
it's
lowering
that
height
exception
on
the
front,
so
I
think
that
answers
your
question.
S
A
N
Just
had
one
more
question
for
staff:
I
didn't
see
a
comment
from
the
school
district
did.
Did
you
is
that
missing
from
the
pack
or
they
like?
They
didn't
respond.
R
E
D
We'll
go
ahead
then,
and
open
this
up
for
public
testimony.
Then
thank
you
guys
for
answering
the
questions.
We
had
a
few
folks
sign
up
ahead
of
time,
him
Jerry,
Finnegan
and
Roger
Bourne
and
then
Wendy
doll
I
just
want
to
come
on
up
and
Order
there.
The
podium
is
free.
Z
Commissioners,
another
professional
I'm,
just
the
poor
schmuck,
that's
been
paying
taxes
to
the
city
of
Boise
for
30
some
years.
Okay,
so
you
know
what
I'm
talking.
A
Z
We
do
not
live
in
the
immediate
area,
but
we
live
a
stone's
throw
away
across
Cloverdale
Road.
My
name
is
Jerry
Finnegan
I
live
at
12459,
West
Castlewood
Drive.
Z
We
have
a
small
subdivision
of
34
homes,
single
family
dwellings,
and
we
feel
as
a
group
that
the
population
density
is
not
a
fit
for
this
neighborhood
and
there's
a
number
of
reasons
for
that,
not
just
the
the
visual
and
the
Aesthetics
of
the
neighborhood.
We
we
have
a
wonderful
neighborhood
now
and
we're
just
afraid
as
more
and
more
people
come
in,
that
will
change
a
couple
of
our
concerns,
though,
have
already
been
raised,
but
I
wanted
to
mention
them
again.
Z
Z
It
is
already
crowded
and
putting
more
children
in
this
area
is,
is
not
a
good
idea
on
for
anybody.
My
other
major
concern
is
that
the
traffic
in
this
area-
I,
don't
know
where
achg
gets
their
figures
from,
but
they
apparently
have
never
driven
through
this
area
from
3
to
5
30
in
the
afternoon.
We
almost
didn't
make
it
to
this
meeting
today.
It
took
us
longer
to
go
the
one
mile
from
Cloverdale
Road
to
Eagle
Road
than
it
did
to
drive
from
Eagle
Road
down.
Here
it
is
a
mess
and
it
is
hazardous.
Z
There
have
been
a
number
of
accidents
trying
to
get
out
of
our
subdivision.
We
have
one
road
coming
out
of
our
subdivision.
Just
like
this
subdivision
will
have.
We
have
no
choice.
We
have
to
go
onto
Cloverdale
Road
at
times
the
light
at
Cloverdale
and
Overland
backs
up
over
the
freeway
more
than
a
quarter
mile,
probably
more
than
a
third
of
a
mile,
and
it's
just
a
mess.
Z
You
cannot
get
through
the
two
layers
of
the
two
lanes
of
traffic
to
make
a
left-hand
turn
coming
out
of
our
subdivision
and
I've
talked
to
several
of
our
neighbors,
who
said
they've
just
given
up
on
trying
to
leave
the
subdivision,
and
that's
you
know,
for
safety
reasons
if
a
fire
truck
or
police
ever
had
to
get
through
there.
That's
an
issue
also
so,
as
concerned
citizens
from
the
general
area,
not
necessarily
this
specific
area.
We
would
like
to
see
some
other
location
for
this
development.
D
R
AA
Thank
you
Mr
chair
and
members
of
the
commission,
I'm
Roger
Bourne
11545
Domingo
Street
Boise,
that's
in
the
lozazzo
subdivision
nearby,
where
we're
talking
about
I,
don't
I,
don't
represent
anybody
I'm
just
here
today
because
of
my
concern
over
the
traffic
congestion,
at
that
big
intersection
of
Overland
and
Cloverdale.
AA
AA
AA
AA
Now
I'm
told
that
there's
138
units
and
that
they
estimate
one
and
a
half
vehicles
per
unit,
which
my
calculator
says:
it's
203
and
if
that's
203,
more
Vehicles,
they
all
have
to
go
out
onto
Overland
now
if
they
want
to
turn
right,
which
is
to
turn
west
well,
they
have
to
deal
with
this
traffic,
but
if
they
want
to
turn
East,
they
have
to
turn
into
a
dedicated
turn
lane
into
oncoming
traffic.
AA
That's
trying
to
turn
to
go
south
on
Cloverdale
and
and
so
I
I
always
talk
about
bike
lanes
and
people
lanes
and
that
sort
of
thing,
I,
don't
know
what
they're
talking
about,
because
this
is
40
mile
an
hour
traffic
right
now-
and
this
is
what
it
looks
like
the
gentleman
who
just
talked
before
me-
has
it
right.
AA
This
is
what
it
looks
like
I'm
standing
on
the
freeway
overpass
looking
South
on
Cloverdale
I'm,
just
about
well
I'm,
a
little
more
than
four
tenths
of
a
mile
from
from
where
I'm
standing
to
the
intersection
and
as
you
can
see,
there's
already
cars
with
their
brake
lights
on
stopped
for
waiting
for
that
intersection.
That's
nearly
a
half
a
mile
of
cars
and
and
here's
what
it
looks
like
coming:
the
other
direction,
I'm
standing
more
than
100
yards
away
on
Overland
going
west.
AA
AA
No
commercial
areas
here,
besides
Fred
Meyers,
which
is
a
mile
away,
so
people
are
going
to
be
moving
in
their
cars
or
on
the
bus,
but
that's
what
that's
what
the
traffic
congestion
looks
like
and
I,
don't
think
that
it's
it's
too
much
and
too
close
to
an
intersection.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
You
Wendy
doll.
H
My
name
is
Wendy
dally.
I
live
at
11949
West
armca
Drive
in
Boise
I
just
live
across
the
street
from
this
proposed
development
and
I
oppose
the
rezone,
mostly
on
the
premise
that
there's
so
many
more
better
options
like
a
neighborhood
office.
Like
the
other
commissioner,
said
the
mix
mixed
commercial
there's
opportunities,
we
just
don't
have
enough
commercial
there.
That
would
would
benefit
the
residents
that
are
already
there
that
condense
or
the
density
is
already
so
high
that
you
put
in
138
apartments
with
lack
of
parking.
H
It's
going
to
inundate
this
neighborhood,
it's
not
going
to
aesthetically,
improve
it
or
make
it
look
better
or
make
it
better
for
the
community
and
I
love.
This
sign
there's
nothing.
We
can't
do
better.
We
can
do
better
than
rezoning
this
to
our
to
a
high
density
area
where
there
is
nothing.
That's
four
story
high
in
this,
this
neighborhood
it
would
be
such
an
eyesore
and
such
an
impact
to
the
density
on
the
roads.
H
On
the
safety
on
the
kids
like
I,
say:
there's
no
green
space,
there's
no
playground,
and
we
know
that
people
don't
give
up
cars.
They
just
don't
not
in
Boise
Idaho,
we
love
our
cars,
and
so
we
are
going
to
try
to.
We
will
invade
the
other.
Neighborhoods
and
I
feel
this
from
experience,
because
I
live
in
Pepper
Hills.
They
put
four
plexes
in
front
of
our
subject,
just
four
plexus.
H
Now
we
have
cars
now
because
they
don't
have
enough
parking
spaces
that
invade
our
neighborhoods
and
park
in
front
of
our
homes
and
include
and
take
the
parking
spaces
away
from
my
family.
So
my
family
can't
even
come
visit
and
park
in
front
of
my
house
because
it
forces
that
parking
into
the
neighborhoods
and
impacts.
H
My
my
way
of
living
and
I
know
that
this
developer
wants
to
make
it
sound
like
it's
really
nice
and
it's
going
to
be
pleasing,
but
I've
talked
to
enough
neighborhoods
and
have
been
an
HOA
president
to
know
that
this
is
not
something
that
we
favor
and
we
do
not
want
it
in.
This
type
of
density
is
just
out
of
out
of
reason
for
it.
For
this
neighborhood
we
live
on
the
Southwest
edge
of
Boise
across
from
Meridian.
H
We
live
out
there
because
it's
Suburban,
it
is
an
urban
and
we
don't
want
want
it
to
be
Urban.
We
want
to
have
a
clean
space
where
our
children
can
enjoy
and
walk
and
bike.
The
only
Park
is
inside
of
pepper
Hills,
and
so
all
that
traffic
is
then
driven
into
our
neighborhoods,
where
the
parkings
in
front
of
our
housing,
the
trash
we
have
had,
our
HOA
has
had
to
increase
our
budget
for
picking
up
trash
just
because
of
those
four
plexus,
because
now
we
have
to
pick
up
dog
Refuge.
H
We
have
to
pick
up
their
garbage
that
they
litter.
We
have
their
traffic
on
our
paths
that
we
have
to
pay
for
and
maintain
and
they're
dogs
that
then
have
destroyed
bushes
and
trees
in
our
neighborhood.
So
we
take
the
impact
of
that
high
density.
Now
you
put
138
apartments
right
across
the
street
where
they
are
landlocked.
There's
no
green
space.
There's
no
playground,
there's
no,
nothing
for
these
people
to
do,
but
to
invade
into
those
neighborhoods.
H
It's
going
to
impact
our
quality
of
life
to
such
a
degree
that
it's
going
to
make
it
so
uncomfortable
and
I
plead
with
you
to
think
about
other
types
of
rezoning
like
condominiums
or
or
townhouse,
or
something
or
it's
mixed
use
where
and
Commissioners
brought
that
up,
there's
just
so
many
better
options
that
you
could
do.
I
plead
with
you
to
consider
some
other
type
of
zoning
than
to
change
it
to
this
high
density
impact
to
RNA
input.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
D
J
Good
evening,
commissioners,
my
name
is
Betty
Berman
solo
and
I
live
at
1970,
canonero
way
and
I
left,
which
is
less
than
a
half
a
mile.
From
this
proposal
on
the
south
side
of
Overland
Road
I
have
been
with
the
Southwest
data
County
Board,
since
the
neighborhoods
group
Inception
in
early
90s
and
for
over
30
years
the
Southwest
data
County
Alliance,
has
considered
oval
and
Road
our
gateway
to
the
Southwest.
J
So
our
concern
that
this
road
remains
livable
attractive
and
welcoming
as
an
as
development
progressed,
has
been
a
long
time
concern
just
as
Vista
Road
has
been
for
the
the
neighborhood
residents
there.
Our
neighborhood
has
been
concerned
about
encroachment
of
billboards
and
Commercial
signage
that
would
be
counter
to
blending
the
existing
residential
and
the
retail
uses
with
proposed
uses
to
date.
Our
boundaries
within
the
Southwest
data
County
Alliance,
do
not
include
four-story
structures.
J
It
just
would
be
an
eyesore
at
that
location
and
and
and
probably
the
Commissioners
have
to
have
a
a
visual
opportunity
to
see
that
area
could
I
ask
staff
to
put
up
the
preceding
layout
of
the
aerial
layout
of
that
of
that
proposal.
When
the
proposal
was
first
presented
with
the
parcel
to
the
east,
there
were
major
concerns
with
respect
to
the
very
dissimilar
density,
two
buildings
with
four
stories
adjacent
to
single
family,
existing
homes
and
safety
moving
in
and
out
onto
Overland
in
general.
J
Those
were
the
concerns
at
the
neighborhood
meeting
that
was
well
attended.
There
were
no
residents
that
stated
approval
only
concerns
with
the
current
proposals.
Still
with
the
two
towering
four
stories:
138
apartment
proposal
and
only
Overland
Road
access.
It
seemed
that
achd
would
require
a
cumulative
projected
traffic
study
on
Overland
at
the
very
least,
and
to
determine
if
the
build
out
of
this
project
is
is
a
safety
liability.
There
are
two
other
residential
and
Commercial
projects
within
a
quarter
of
a
mile
under
construction
on
Overland
Road.
J
With
the
current
flattening
of
the
apartment
Market,
it
would
be
more
desirable
to
build
a
product
that
is
still
needed
and
lucrative
along
this
Corridor
I
also
think
the
value
of
retaining
a
portion
of
this
parcel
is
an
opportunity
for
a
much
needed,
Aquifer
recharge,
a
pond,
something
that
provides
more
of
an
amenity.
That's
currently
there.
D
J
W
Mr,
chair
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Dwayne
dally,
11949
West,
armgood,
Drive
I'm,
a
little
confused,
I've
heard
different
numbers
of
parking
spaces
can
I
get
a
solid
count
of
how
many
parking
spaces
are
actually.
W
W
W
We
need
to
make
sure
that
those
units
are
the
parking
spaces
are
able
to
handle
up
to
two
Cars
Plus
visitors
that
come
in
to
visit.
They
will
have
friends,
they
will
have
other
parking
also
with
the
traffic
I
understand
the
role
of
a
achd
and
I
hear
that
once
in
a
while
and
it's
kind
of
easy
to
turn
that
page
and
say
achd
has
looked
at
it,
but
I
also
think
that
Planning
and
Zoning
you
have
a
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
the
site
plans
contribute
and
enhance
the
existing
single-family
units
that
are
there.
W
So
I'd
ask
you
to
take
a
good
look
at
that.
Not
just
go
on
what
achd
does
and
I'm
concerned
when
I
hear
exceptions
are
made
I
understand.
There
are
times
that
that
happens,
but
when
exceptions
are
made
by
achd,
when
exceptions
are
made
by
Planning
and
Zoning,
we've
kind
of
walked
away
from
standards
that
have
been
set
for
other
neighborhoods.
W
W
Distances
from
the
light
for
the
Ingress
and
egress
and
I
wonder
if
the
exceptions
have
been
made
here
every
time
we
make
an
exception,
we
really
we
have
a
tendency
to
increase
the
opportunity
for
mishaps
and
we're
not
as
safe
I.
Thank
you
for
the
time.
I
ask
you
to
please
consider
I
do
oppose
the
rezoning
and
I
I
is
one
I
heard
earlier
that
the
area
thinks
that
we
could
do
with
less
parking?
W
D
AB
AB
My
main
concern
is
the
four
stories
there's
nothing
in
our
territory.
That
is,
that
High
and
asking
for
the
increase
two
feet
due
to
the
flood
plain.
Well,
then,
they
shouldn't
have
picked
a
floodplain
to
build
on
they're,
going
to
build
an
eyesore.
That's
going
to
stick
out
like
it's
going
to
stick
up
and
stick
out
like
a
sore
thumb
in
our
neighborhood.
It's
surrounded.
AB
You
know
in
the
back,
all
by
large
lot,
single-family
homes
and
I'm,
not
sure
on
the
achd
findings,
but
the
last
thing
I
read
they
weren't
totally
in
support
of
this.
They
had
concerns
about
only
the
one
entrance
coming
into
their
I.
Think
it's
a
huge
safety
issue.
AB
You've
got
all
these
people
coming
out
on
Overland
Road,
that's
already
congested,
I
know
when
they,
when
they
in
their
10-year
plan,
they
plan
to
increase
it
to
seven
lanes
and
they
wanted
to
make
it.
So
you
can
only
turn
out
to
the
right
I,
don't
I,
don't
foresee
people
totally
abiding
by
that
I
see
a
lot
of
accidents
and
possibly
people
will
be
being
killed
in
traffic
accidents.
AB
I
do
have
concerns
about
the
lack
of
open
space.
In
my
personal
opinion,
bullying
it
the
way
they're
building.
It
is
like
a
low-income.
AB
Housing
project
I
think
we
need.
We
need
more
commercial
in
the
area
they
keep
on
rezoning.
All
our
designated
commercial
Parcels
to
to
residential
and
I
do
believe.
There
needs
to
be
a
crosswalk.
If
you
guys
are
going
to
approve
it.
I
think
it's
better
suited
for
maybe
two-story
Apartments
I
know
they
want
to
get
the
most
bang
for
their
Buck,
but
not
at
the
expense
of
the
residents
that
already
lived
there.
Thank
you
bye.
Y
First
time,
I've
ever
done
anything
like
this.
My
name
is
Vince
Maggio
I
live
on
12549
West,
Castlewood,
Drive
neighbor
to
Jerry.
I
will
tell
you
if
you
look
at
the
traffic
conditions
today,
they're
horrendous,
you
know,
I'm
gonna
say
it.
I
came
here
from
California
just
from
a
job
transfer
and
the
traffic,
that's
on
Cloverdale
and
Oberlin
mirrors,
something
you
would
see
in
downtown
L.A.
It
is
it's
backed
up
so
far
you
can't
even
get
out.
You
know.
I
I
come
from.
Y
You
know,
driving
in
the
city,
so
coming
out
of
my
track.
I'll
I'll
gun
it
and
take
the
chance
to
get
out
into
that.
Middle
Lane.
But
you
know
it's
scary.
You
know
you
can't
get
out
now
you
put
all
those
homes
on
on
all
those
potential
people
in
that
area.
Y
You
know,
I
asked
the
committee
or
the
Developers
go:
take
a
drive
down
Overland
around
5
30
6
o'clock
and
see
how
much
fun
it
is
to
get
from
Cloverdale
to
Eagle
Road.
You
know
you're
going
to
be
there
a
while,
not
to
mention
you
can't
even
turn
left.
You
got
to
turn
right,
then
you're
having
to
drive
all
the
way
around
the
block
just
to
get
you
know
to
the
place.
Y
You
want
to
go
so
I
just
implore
you
to
take
a
look
at
the
traffic
situation,
because
you
put
something
in
there
now
it's
only
going
to
make
it
worse
then
you're
talking
about
putting
in
some
kind
of
crosswalk,
that's
gonna,
you
know
just
amplify
the
problem,
even
more
so
I
I,
don't
approve
of
it.
I
think,
there's
a
better
area
to
go
and
overland's
already
packed
as
it
is.
So.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
F
D
Sorry,
you
could
maybe
adjust
your
mic
or
your
volume
we're
having
a
little
trouble
hearing
you
on
our
side.
P
U
The
sarri
drive
and
that
is
adjacent
to
lozazzo.
U
So
my
my
concern
about
this
project
is
in
regards
to
the
the
floodway
and
the
flood
plain
I
live
in
rlr,
Park
subdivision
and
it's
a
fairly
new
subdivision.
It
was
built
in
2015
adjacent
to
the
the
flood
plain.
So
so
our
subdivision
is
right
along
Five,
Mile
Creek.
When
they
were
building
our
subdivision,
they
they
had
to
bring
in
a
lot
of
fill
and
Elevate
the
subdivision
to
to
get
it
above.
U
The
I
guess
the
groundwater,
even
with
the
amount
of
fill
that
they
put
in
a
lot
of
the
homes
in
our
subdivision.
The
crawl
space
is
still
flooded.
U
They
managed
to
to
work
through
that
get
the
subdivision
built,
and
you
know
where
you
know
the
level
we're
at
right.
Now.
You
know
we
we,
you
know
our
our
crawl
spaces
are
dry,
but
looking
at
this
project,
you
know
looking
at
the
proposed
the
the
floor
plan
or
the
layout
that
they
they
sent,
comparing
it
to
the
satellite
map
of
the
area
and
the
FEMA
map.
You
know
a
couple
things
one.
U
It
looks
like
the
the
proposed
plant
actually
does
encroach
on
the
floodway
on
the
north
east
corner
and
the
second
thing
these
these
maps
have
not
been
updated
since
2003..
U
So
a
lot
of
what
they're
going
to
build
a
lot
of
hard
surface,
a
lot
of
that
parking
lot,
I
believe
May
encroach
on
the
on
the
floodway.
You
know
definitely
the
flood
plain,
but
also
the
flood
way,
so
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
you
know,
a
hydraulic
engineer,
study
done
to
determine
how
much
of
this
this
development
is
going
to
be
underwater.
U
You
know
when
it
floods
and
and
that
area
does
regularly
flood
it's
currently
a
marsh
and
how
many
of
the
residents
cars
in
that
parking
lot
will
be
under
water.
On
a
you
know,
a
periodic
basis,
but
not
only
that,
but
the
potential
damage
that
it
could
cause
to
homes
in
the
surrounding
area
by
altering
the
flood
plain
and
diverting
some
of
that
water.
That
would
have
otherwise
flooded
that
Marsh.
P
U
AC
Yes,
hello,
this
is
actually
Ben
Turner.
We
are
both
here
at
my
wife
and
I,
and
one
of
our
neighbors
I'm
at
one
two
zero
one,
one
Florida
Drive
I
am
in
agreement
with
all
the
concerns
that
have
been
brought
forth.
So
I
don't
need
to
go
over
that
I
I
guess.
One
of
our
biggest
concerns
is
our
neighborhood.
AC
We,
our
backyard,
faces
Five
Mile,
Creek
borders
on
the
creek,
and
a
four-story
facility
like
that
looming
above
our
homes,
is
just
it's
just
kind
of
overwhelming
to
us
those
all
of
those
four
stories.
Three
and
four
stories.
Looking
into
our
back
bedroom
windows.
It's
just
and
it
puts
quite
a
block
blockage
in
our
view
of
of
the
rest
of
the
the
world,
it
seems
like
we're.
AC
A
D
S
Thanks
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
you
have
a
lot
to
unpack
a
little
bit
so,
first
of
all,
yeah
we,
the
design
of
this
building.
It
started
out
a
little
bit
more
modern
than
this.
After
some
feedback
from
City
staff,
the
architect
went
back
redesigned
this
this
building
or
these
two
buildings
to
be
a
lot
more
residential
in
form.
There's
more
pitched
roofs
on
it.
There's
some
shed
roofs
on
there.
A
lot
of
different
forms
that
are
reflective
of
you
know
more
traditional
or
traditional
architecture
on
on
residential
homes.
S
We
anticipate
that
there
will
be
additional
feedback
and
design
review
once
we
get
there
to
further
kind
of
refine
this
design.
One
of
the
conditions
of
approval,
was
to
look
at
a
different
color
palette
and
some
different
materials
on
one
of
the
buildings,
so
that
these
didn't
look
too
similar
and
create
too
much
of
the
kind
of
monoculture.
If
you
will,
along
that
Frontage
there
so
I
feel
like
that's
going
to
address
kind
of
the
design
of
this
structure
in
this
location.
S
We
do
feel
like
a
commercial
or
retailer
other
C
zoned
property
here
or
project
here
could
increase
the
impact
on
the
neighborhood
because
it
could
either
have
more
traffic.
I
mean
it's
really
hard
to
guess
at
what
you
could
put
in
there,
but
based
on
the
uses
allowed
in
a
commercial
Zone,
you
could
generate
a
lot
more
traffic.
You
could
generate
uses
like
a
car
wash
or
restaurants
of
some
kind.
That
could
have
a
lot
more
impact,
in
my
opinion
and
additionally,
not
buffer
as
much
as
a
another
residential
use.
S
I
get
this
as
an
apartment
building,
but
is
it
a
it
is
a
residential
use.
So
this
is
a
residential
against
Residential.
You
know
where
the
developer
really
believes
in
what
they
do.
They
build
these
they
own
them.
They
manage
them.
They
do
not
build
these
and
sell
them.
They
don't
paper,
get
these
things
paper
approved
and
then
sell
the
project
to
somebody
else
to
come
in
and
and
manage
this.
So
in
talking
with
the
development
team
they're
very
committed
to
this
community,
as
he
very
well
outlaid.
At
the
start
of
this.
S
The
hearing
on
this
item
traffic
is
problematic
really
wherever
we
are
in
Boise
right
now,
housing,
it's
a
little
counter-intuitive.
When
you
get
it
closer
to
where
people
want
to
go,
then
they
don't
have
to
drive
as
far
or
drive
at
all
it
again.
It
can
be
a
little
counter-intuitive
but
providing
density
closer
to
places
where
people
want
to
go
like
a
community,
Activity
Center
or
an
elementary
school.
S
They
can
walk
or
bike
there
much
easier
than
if
they
live
in
Meridian
or
Nampa
or
Caldwell
or
Caldwell,
where
a
lot
of
people
live
now
and
drive
into
Boise.
So
this
is
helping
address.
Some
of
that
I
also
want
to
touch
on
one
thing
that
I
heard
recently.
This
is
just
in
general.
S
The
United
States
currently
has
more
square
footage
of
surface
parking
than
it
does
for
residential
square
footage
for
housing,
which
is
unreal
to
me
so
asking
for
additional
surface
parking
or
even
additional
parking
to
me
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
when
we
need
to
design
housing
for
people
and
not
design
houses
for
cars.
Because
of
now
right
now
we're
effectively
designing
houses
for
cars.
S
We
do
have
a
decent
amount
of
green
space
on
this.
The
Western
end
of
this,
where
it
really
gets
narrow,
is
an
open
lawn
area
for
Passive
Recreation.
It's
approximately
three
thousand
square
feet
on
that
end
of
open
Green,
Space
area,
there's
also
independent
of
that
2500
square
foot
dog
park
for
Resident
use,
which
is
another
amenity.
The
amenity
space
inside
this
building
is
a
you
know,
kind
of
community
center
area
and
fitness
center.
S
It
does
not
have
a
play
structure
on
the
site
that
is
correct,
but
that
is
by
Design,
as
the
developer
talked
about
a
lot
of
those
things
get
used
by
a
very
small
handful
of
people
that
live
in
these
units
and
a
lot
of
the
rest
of
them
go
other
places
to
recreate
Additionally
the
demographic.
The
target
for
these
types
of
for
their
types
of
product
is
not
large
families
with
a
bunch
of
small
children.
These
are
young
professionals.
S
These
are
potentially
teachers
at
the
elementary
school
or
you
know
anyone
that
works
in
that
area.
So
that's
really
what
this
is
geared
to
there's
a
reason
that
there's
not
child
oriented
amenities,
because
that's
not
really
appropriate
to
put
in
the
type
of
development
that
they
want
to
build.
Does
that
mean
there
will
be
no
children
living
there?
No,
there
could
be,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
this
is
all
going
to
be.
S
You
know
two
parents,
two
families
or
even
single
parents
with
multiple
or
multiple
kids.
You
know,
and
the
unit
sizes
reflect
that
you
know
with
studio
and
one
bedroom
apartments.
It
doesn't
lend
itself
to
large
families.
Even
two-bedroom
apartments,
I
heard
a
lot
of
words
they're
in
you
know
the
neighbor's
concerns
about
livability
commercial,
signage,
Billboards
traffic.
If
you
put
a
commercial
project
on
this
site,
there's
definitely
going
to
be
signage.
S
The
signage
associated
with
this
building
does
not
have
to
be
that
great.
We
did
a
traffic
impact
study
that
fully
vetted
this
project.
City
of
Boise
required
the
cross
access
not
achd,
they
are
not
going
to.
There
was
I've
not
seen
anything
that
requires
the
closure
of
this
entry.
S
If
the
prod
the
parcel
to
the
east
redevelops-
and
we
feel
very
good
about
what
the
civil
engineers
evaluation
of
this
site,
that
is
going
through
the
floodplain
development
permit
process
on
this,
we're
not
requesting
any
exceptions
with
this
PUD
other
than
the
height
exception,
we
are
meet
or
exceed
all
setbacks
from
all
boundaries
and
I
did
want
to
touch
on.
S
As
you
know,
a
studio
doesn't
need,
isn't
going
to
have
one
and
a
half
Cars
associated
with
it.
I
think
that's
addresses
most
of
the
items
that
I
saw
here.
I
know
that
I'm
over
my
five
minutes
so
I'd
like
to
stop
and
stand
for
any
additional
questions.
Okay,
I
think
we're
good
there.
Ben
thank.
D
You
thank
you,
yeah,
okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
bring
this
item
back
for
the
commission
to
render
a
decision.
We've
got.
You
know
two
items
here:
gang
we've
got
the
excuse
me
I'm.
Sorry,
we've
got
the
rezone
and
then
we
also
have
the
Pud.
We
can
take
them
up
in
independent
of
one
another
or
we
can
pick
them
up
together
as
one
up
to
you
all.
O
D
O
O
You
know,
regardless
of
whether
it
was
commercial
or
whether
it
was
residential
you're,
still
going
to
be
dealing
with
that
kind
of
Delta.
From
your
base,
flood
elevation
to
your
finished
floor
and
I
think
you
know
in
terms
of
the
height
and
the
height
exemption,
I
think
a
lot
of
development
either
down
the
road.
When
that
Activity
Center
is
built
up
more
or
now,
you
could
be
dealing
with
some
height
exemption.
Some
height
issues
there
just
to
get
out
of
that
base
flood
everything
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
higher.
O
However,
I
think
it's
with
the
height
exemption
is
a
little
bit
deceptive
because
you
are
measuring
from
that
lowest
point,
but
from
Overland
it's
actually
slightly
lower
than
Oberlin.
So
the
way
it's
measured
here
is
a
little
bit
different
than
how
it
would
be
measured
in
most
of
the
applications
that
we
see
honestly
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
makes
me
feel
pretty
comfortable
about
the
height
exemption,
because
you
know
from
the
road
from
the
majority
of
your
kind
of
vantage
point.
O
In
your
perspective,
it
it
does
comply
if
you
take
it
from
that
that
point
otherwise
I
think
the
looking
at
the
sections
I
think
the
developer
isn't
designing
anything.
That's
overly.
You
know
overly
tall,
the
floor-to-ceiling
heights,
they
don't
look,
they're,
they're,
relatively
modest
and
they're,
nothing.
You
know
particularly
extravagant
or
anything
like
that,
it's
a
very
modest
product,
so
it's
it's
really
I
feel
good
about
it
being
the
the
flood
way
area
and
then
in
terms
of
cars
in
the
flood
way.
O
If
I'm,
looking
at
our
packet
page
352,
it
looks
like
the
parking
area
is
entirely
outside
of
the
floodway
it's
in
that
hundred
year
flood
zone,
but
not
in
the
floodway
itself,
and
then
with
the
with
the
traffic
and
all
of
that
I
think
that
the
Developers
going
you
know,
extra
steps
to
kind
of
encourage
biking
and
things
like
that
with
ample
indoor
bike,
storage
and
items
like
that
additional
parking,
but
all
that
bike
storage,
I
think
it
does
go
a
long
way.
So,
for
those
reasons,
I'll
be
Joker.
A
D
N
Know,
please
start
the
fire
back
so
I'm,
not
in
support
of
this
motion.
I
just
think
that
I
think
the
density
and
the
height
exception
is
appropriate
along
the
corridor,
but
I
just
think
we
can
do
better
with
the
mixed
use
option.
I
think
the
application
like
we
mentioned
it
lacks
amenities
and
I
mean
it.
Just
overall
lacks
the
opportunity
for
us
to
put
commercial
in
this
space
and
I.
Think
that's
it's
in
dire
need
in
this
area.
N
There's
a
couple
comments
made
by
the
applicant
like
amenities.
He
said
the
location
is
the
amenity,
but
I
I.
Don't
think
that's
how
our
code
reads:
I
think
that
our
code
reads
that
amenities
are
important
and
that's
why
we
require
it
in
almost
every
application-
and
you
know
it
was
also
commented
that
we
designed
houses
for
people
not
for
cars,
but
without
commercial
space.
N
In
these
livable
communities,
I
mean
you
should
probably
plan
for
cars
because
we're
going
to
need
to
drive
to
the
commercial
spaces
so
I'm
our
Commercial
location,
so
I'm,
not
in
support
of
this
application.
I
think
it
has
some
strong
points
and
again
I
think
that
density
and
height
is
definitely
appropriate.
I
think
that's
what
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
along
these
more
traveled
corridors,
but
I
just
think
we
could
do
better
with
the
design.
I
N
Mr
chair,
since
the
motion
came
in
front
of
us
in
both
it
just
as
one
I
I
will
be
against
the
whole
thing,
because
we
didn't
separate
them
yeah.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
D
V
Chairman,
no
please
so
I've
kind
of
been
tilting
against
this
mixed
use
requirement
for
12
14
years,
and
you
know
we
have
a
fundamental
problem
right,
which
is
the
demand
for
commercial
development,
is
much
lower
now
than
it
used
to
be,
and
the
demand
for
residential
development
is
much
higher.
So
a
lot
of
the
zoning
language
and
the
the
way
we've
architected
the
rule,
making
hasn't
really
caught
fully
up
to
that
problem.
V
Right
there
just
isn't
very
much
commercial
Demand
anymore,
like
there
used
to
be
for
for
lots
of
of
stuff,
and
so
I
agree
with
commissioner
finfrock
that
I
wish
there
was
a
mixed-use
component.
I
wish
that
for
12
years,
going
way
back
to
when
we
tore
down
Ben's
Crow
in
and
and
it
supposed
to
be
commercial-
and
we
didn't
put
a
good
fried
clam
Place
back
and
that
broke
my
heart.
V
But
this
is
just
to
me.
I
I
can't
vote
against
something
because
of
that,
because
I
feel
like
we're
just
pushing
into
the
wind
on
that
there
there's
just
no
demand
for
commercial
space,
so
the
alternate
what's
going
to
happen
is
if
we
say
no,
no
one's
going
to
build
commercial
space
there,
because
it's
been
there
for
a
long
time
and
what's
going
to
happen,
is
all
the
residential
development
is
just
going
to
move
west
and
south.
V
So
I
as
a
commissioner
have
been
forced
in
a
sense
to
acknowledge
that
the
goal
of
mixed
use
just
is
not
going
to
work
in
significant
or
not
going
to
work
as
well
in
significant
parts
of
the
city.
So
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
on
that
that
issue
I
wish.
N
What's
different
than
12
to
14
years,
though,
is
that
we
are
putting
a
new
code
in
front
of
us
and
we
are.
We
are
increasing
density
and
we
are
asking
for
this.
N
This
is
the
vision
of
Sid,
the
city
of
Boise
and
so
I
think
that
if
we
are
going
to
start
like
wanting
to
build
these
communities
like
the
code
of
the
revised
code
says,
then
we
have
to
start
requiring
or
even
demanding,
as
as
you
know,
that
commercial
space
go
into
these
residential
communities,
because
we
all
know
that
when
there's
commercial
space
added
it
makes
for
a
better
community
and
you
can
walk
to
your
copy
or
walk.
N
You
know
to
a
little
restaurant
and
then
you
know
that
is
what's
desirable
and
I
I
don't
see
how
we
do
that
unless
we
start
holding
some
of
these
applications
to
that
standard,
I
mean-
and
it's
not
just
I
mean
anytime.
An
application
comes
in
front
of
us
in
any
area
of
Boise
that
we
look
at
it
or
we
praise
it.
D
B
Chanel
has
me
a
little
bit
convinced
I
I
can
see
both
sides
for
sure
we've
definitely
denied
applications
in
the
past
for
not
including
mixed
use
in
areas
where
we
would
like
to
see
mixed
use
and
I.
Think
I
agree
with
that
point
that
you
know
we
that
those
have
those
projects
have
been
much
closer
to
the
university
or
closer
to
downtown.
B
But
why
not?
You
know:
I
know
that
we're
striving
to
make
walkable
livable
neighborhoods
all
over
the
city,
and
so
why
not
here
too
I
would
love
to
see
mixed
use
here
so
I'm
a
little
on
the
fence
right
now,
but
leaning
in
that
direction.
D
I
Yeah,
commissioner
finfrock
is
compelling
arguments
about
the
mixed
use,
but
I'm
in
support
of
the
motion.
After
listening
to
all
that,
and
and
primarily
because
of
the
the
issue
that
this
would
be
appropriate
closer
to
downtown
or
closer
to
the
urban
core.
This
is
a
bit
outlying.
It
isn't
a
Transit
Corridor.
So
that's
what
we
want.
We
want
density
on
a
Transit
quarter,
but
commercial
in
that
area.
I
I'm
agreeing
with
commissioner.
I
On
this
and
that
we
can't
push
it
in
that
sense,
well,
I've
got
the
mic.
I
do
I
want
to
make
a
point
about
the
school
and
I
really
appreciate
the
testimony
regarding
that,
but
the
fact
that
the
school
district
didn't
even
respond
to
this
is
infuriating
and
unprofessional
and
I
and
I
think
the
public
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
more
accountable
to
the
elected
officials
and
the
board
members
that
allow
the
BSD
staff
to
not
respond
to
these
inputs.
I
D
You
John
okay,
good
discussion,
Mr
chair.
K
Yeah
Chris,
just
real
quick
yeah,
the
I
guess
the
only
hang
up
I
have
is
that
the
Future
Vision
for
that
site
is
r1a.
So
it's
not
even
mixed
use
like
we
weren't,
even
gonna,
we
weren't
even
gonna,
make
an
mx1
or
anything.
So
even
after
you
know,
years
of
planning
we
still
said
we've
all
agreed
after
going
through
the
zoning
code.
Rewrite
is
that
that
should
be
R1.
O
Just
to
reiterate,
I
think
the
commissioner
fin
Frogman
awesome.
Excuse
me
an
awesome,
Point
and
I
totally
agree.
I
think
that
mixed
juice
here
would
be
fantastic
and
I
suppose,
maybe
that
it's
kind
of
the
what
we
always
grapple
with,
which
is
you
know
the
chicken
or
the
egg.
You
know
if
you
get
more
of
a
walkable
type
product
here,
maybe
that'll
helps
for
some
warm
excuse
nearby.
It's
not
necessarily
on
that
site,
but
maybe
it'll
you
know.
Maybe
this
is
the
first
move
and
then
you've
got
something
later.
O
D
Okay:
well
thanks
everybody
good
good
discussion,
yeah
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
have
been
vacillating
as
well
over
several
of
these
issues
during
the
testimony
tonight.
I
think
Chris,
I
I
fully
agree
with
Chris
that
you
know
in
the
land
use
map.
All
the
land
use
maps
has
always
been
residential.
There's
never
been
commercials
shown
by
any
of
the
land
use
maps
for
this
particular
parcel.
So
I
defaulted,
that
in
many
ways
I
understand
the
concerns
over
the
building
height.
D
But
you
know
I
think
that
the
I
mean
the
team
did
a
nice
job
of
detailing
how
the
buildings
will
sit
into
the
site
and
the
space
that
we're
talking
about.
You
know
we're
well
over
150
feet
to
other
structures
in
both
directions,
which
is
a
long
distance,
so
if
there's
ever
a
place
to
put
a
four-story
building
next
to
residential.
D
This
is
probably
the
spot
just
because
of
that
distance
that
you
have
to
make
it
a
little
more
amenable
to
the
site
to
the
site,
so
yeah
so
anyway,
I'll
also
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
appreciate
all
of
the
feedback
tonight
and
certainly
understand
the
concerns
over
traffic
and
in
the
neighborhood
developing
and
changing
over
time,
so
continue
to
talk
to
achd.
You
know,
that's.
D
You
know,
I
concerned
over
the
comments
that
we
don't
take:
traffic
and
pedestrian
Crossings
and
that
issue
seriously,
because
we
do
I
mean
we
agonize
over
that
up
here
we
agonize
our
sidewalks
every
single
meeting.
So
so
we
lit
we,
we
hear
you
on
the
concerns.
Unfortunately,
situation
we
find
ourselves
in
the
Treasure
valleys
at
achd.
D
Is
the
traffic
body
right,
so
we
have
to
default
to
them
in
many
ways,
so
continue
to
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
continue
to
express
your
concerns
over
the
traffic
and
the
growth
in
that
part
of
the
city
that
part
of
the
city
and
see
what
they
can
do
with
time.
I
mean
certainly
overall,
is
going
to
change
it's
going
to
seven
Lanes,
so
that
will
be
a
big
change
as
well.
D
K
D
D
D
Which
is
another
rezone
and
conditioning
use
permit,
so
car
23-10
and
PUD
23-11
Boise
River
builders
project
address
is
1200
and
1208
South
Leadville
Avenue
rezone
of
approximately
0.35
Acres
from
R2
to
r3d,
and
then
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
price
of
10
multi-family
units.
On
said,
0.35
Acres
we'll
hear
from
we'll
hear
from
Staff
first
Sabrina
Mortensen
again.
R
R
The
subject
properties
have
a
compact
land
use
designation,
which
would
not
typically
support
R3
zoning.
However,
the
comprehensive
plan
states
that
Parcels
less
than
one
and
a
half
acres
in
size
do
not
have
to
adhere
to
the
land
use
designation
if
other
policies
of
blueprint
Boise
support
the
proposed
use
as
detailed
in
your
packets.
The
proposed
development
is
in
compliance
with
multiple
goals
and
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
R
The
subject
properties
are
in
close
proximity
to
existing
Transit
facilities,
designated
bikeways
and
Neighborhood
Services,
and
there
is
existing
R3
r3d
zoning
in
the
area,
including
the
adjacent
property
to
the
West.
Therefore,
the
planning
team
finds
the
proposed
r3b
Zone
to
be
the
most
appropriate
for
the
site.
R
The
applicant
proposes
to
construct
two
three-story
apartment
structures
containing
a
total
of
10
units.
All
parking
for
the
development
will
be
accessed
from
the
adjacent
alley
and
will
be
Podium
parking
within
the
ground
floor
of
the
apartment
buildings.
There
are
existing
detached
sidewalks
with
Street
trees
along
the
site's
frontages
on
Leadville
Avenue
and
Beacon
Street,
which
will
be
maintained.
R
The
proposed
r3d
Zone
has
a
maximum
allowed
height
of
45
feet,
but
the
proposed
Apartments
will
remain
within
the
35
foot
limit
of
the
existing
R2
Zone.
The
Southeast
Boise
neighborhood
association
submitted
written
comments
in
opposition
to
the
proposal.
Their
comments
did
not
identify
any
specific
concerns
regarding
proposed
project
design,
but
expressed
General
opposition
to
the
requested
rezone
to
r3d,
however,
is
detailed
in
your
packets.
The
planning
team
finds
that
the
application
complies
with
all
rezone
and
PUD
requirements
and
recommends
approval
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
AD
AD
The
land
in
question
is
currently
occupied
by
two
single-family
homes.
Both
are
non-owner
occupied
and
have
been
for
a
number
of
years.
They've
been
rental
units.
The
owner
is
Desiring
to
improve
the
property
with
its
proximity
to
Broadway,
walking
and
getting
out
of
the
car
is
one
of
the
key
points
of
this
property.
They
do
have
five
spots
underneath
each
unit
and
then
the
front
units
that
are
along
Leadville
are
actually
Ada
accessible.
AD
D
AF
Hello
I
had
one
request
whether
I
could
have
I
could
share
just
a
picture
of
the
new
and
old
zoning.
A
AF
Excellent,
thank
you.
Eric
Berg
1301
South,
Grant
Ave,
representing
Cena,
so
transitions
are
always
where
the
utmost
attention
to
detail
needs
to
happen,
whether
it's
in
construction,
where
trim,
must
be
cut
perfectly
to
transition
from
walls
to
floors
or
windows
and
doors
or
parts
of
our
free
lives.
It's
these
transitions
that
are
often
the
trickiest
to
navigate.
AF
In
order
to
do
so,
it's
necessary
to
not
only
pay
attention
to
detail
but
take
a
holistic
approach
to
make
sure
that
everything
lines
up
just
right.
It's
in
this
spirit
that
the
board
of
the
southeast
neighborhood
association
voted
unanimously
to
oppose
this
project
due
to
its
spot
rezone
along
an
incredibly
important
Corridor
in
our
neighborhood
Beacon
Street
is
less
than
a
mile
long,
but
in
that
time
runs
through
R2,
R3,
U,
C2
and
LOD
zoning
districts
in
the
new
code,
C2
and
LOD
will
be
replaced
with
two
levels
of
mixed
use.
AF
Beacon
also
provides
the
primary
connection
between
Boise
State
and
Park
Center,
which
is
the
major
East-West
connection
for
the
north
side
of
Cena.
Suffice
to
say
there
are
an
incredible
amount
of
uses
for
this
Corridor,
including
bus
lines
and
even
the
Leadville
Bikeway,
all
of
which
would
support
more
density.
AF
AF
It's
true
in
the
code
that
it
says
under
an
acre
and
a
half.
You
can
do
that,
but
we
have
to
ask
ourselves
that
what
is
the
future
use
and
what
is
the
best
use
for
this
area?
Cena
does
not
contend
that
zoning
does
not
need
to
be
looked
at
here.
However,
doing
so
on
a
spot
reason
that
does
not
meet
the
compact
implementing
Zone
code
is
per
blueprint.
Boise
is
not
the
solution.
AF
The
danger
of
spot
rezones
is
that
a
piecemeals
transitions
creating
in
compatible
and
improper
uses
that
don't
align
with
the
cities,
neighborhoods
or
development's
best
interests,
Beacon
as
a
whole,
needs
to
be
looked
at
for
its
mix
of
zones
and
uses,
and
especially
as
we
transition
into
the
new
zoning
code.
That
needs
to
be
discussed
with
all
stakeholders
on
how
best
to
look
at
the
piecemeal
zoning
of
the
area
and
streamline
it
to
a
more
beneficial
and
cohesive
mix.
AF
In
my
own,
neighborhood
Beacon
provides
the
dividing
line
between
the
u-district
to
the
North
and
the
residential
and
Commercial
to
the
South
Beacon
between
Broadway
and
Park.
Center
may
or
may
not
need
to
provide
a
similar
delineation
between
zones,
but
until
we
approach
it
with
a
holistic
approach,
we
invite
more
chaos
for
the
area
and
any
future
development.
AF
The
applicant's
only
argument
for
the
reason
is
that
it
needs
to
occur
in
order
to
accommodate
the
density
they
request.
This
reason
is
not
sufficient
to
justify
the
reason.
The
next
two
R3
the
applicant
refers
to
is
either
across
Leadville
or
across
Beacon.
Traditionally,
roads
are
used
to
transition,
zoning
and
attempts
are
made
to
maintain
similar
zoning
within
block
faces,
keeping
transitions
from
one
zone
to
another
to
a
minimum
within
a
block.
AF
AF
It
may
need
to
have
different
zones.
R3
may
be
appreciables,
you
know
a
correct
Zone
on
areas
of
Beacon,
but
the
transitions
along
Beacon
are
complex
and
require
a
collaborative
approach
to
build
the
kind
of
an
area
that
we
can
hold
up
as
a
model
for
other
parts
of
the
neighborhood
and
City.
We
encourage
you
to
reject
this
application
because
of
the
rezone,
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
what
the
applicant
brings
forward,
perhaps
the
same
project
or
different
as
we
figure
out
what
the
future
of
Beacon
and
the
zoning
along
Beacon
will
look
like.
AF
O
AD
A
commission
there
is
no
elevators
in
this.
There
are
two
sets
of
stairways
for
fire
access,
there's
a
front
stair
set
and
then
there's
a
rear.
Stair
set
they're
going
to
be
going
up
to
four
units,
so
the
first
floor
will
be
on
the
Main
and
then
there'll
be
two
sets
of
stairs
going
up
to
the
second
floor,
has
three
units
and
then
the
fourth
floor
has
a
single
unit
plus
the
deck.
O
AD
Is
you
know
we
do
have
common
area
on
the
property
itself
Gathering
areas,
but
yes,
it
would
not
be
elevator
accessible
to.
O
The
roof
so
Mr
chairman,
so
for
so
say
you
have
a
handicapped,
tenant,
I.
Suppose
that's
utilizing
one
of
those
ground
floor
Apartments.
They
wouldn't
be
able
to
utilize
to
use
this
community
balcony
patio
or
patio,
because
there's
no
elevator
if.
O
AD
That
we
have
the
open
area,
you
know
if
we
needed
to
put
you
know
a
picnic
table
area
or
something
like
that,
but
I'm
not
really
sure
if
that's
actually
beneficial,
especially
on
this
kind
of
roadway
there
to
be
too
many
people
passing
through
and
maybe
loitering
in
that
area
and
on
their
property
I,
don't
know
it
would
have
to
be
something
that
could
get
worked
out.
O
And
then
Mr
chair,
so
for
this
balcony
and
Patio,
is
it
considered
one
of
the
required
amenities,
or
is
this
just
an
optional
amenity.
AD
It's
part
of
the
open
space
requirement,
and
so
that's
every
unit
has
a
patio
on
it,
but
it
needs
100
square
feet
and
so
to
add
to
that
open
space
was
the
upper
patio
that
would
be
used
by
the
other
units.
Gotcha.
O
R
Madam
chair
or
sorry
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Moore,
for
beauties
of
this
size.
The
requirement
is
100
square
feet
of
open
space
per
unit.
The
ground
floor
units
would
have
more
than
that
amount
of
open
space
available
to
them.
Okay,.
V
Now,
Mr,
chairman
milk,
this
end
of
the
table
can't
figure
out
where
the
cars
go
to
get
from
the
street.
The
parking
stalls
do
show
us.
Please.
AD
Yeah,
the
inner
they
enter
in
off
of
the
alleyway
there's
a
point:
well,
there's
a
pointer:
well,
they
come
in
the
yep,
so
the
the
alleyway
comes
in
through
a
common
driveway
to
both
units,
so
they
will
be
coming
off
of
Beacon
Light
and
then
they
have
access
along
with
garbage,
and
all
of
that
can
be
on
the
alleyway.
Thank.
AF
V
Mr
Berg,
you
I
I,
appreciated
your
eloquent
discussion
of
of
the
zoning
issues
and
you
took
them
on
at
a
pretty
abstract
level,
and
you
never
really
talked
about
any
adverse
impact
or
issues
that
you
have
with
this
development,
as
it's
proposed
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
Cena
or
you
had
any
specific
issues
with
what
the
developers
proposed.
Apart
from
the
zoning
issue,.
AF
The
the
reasons
for
our
opposition
were
limited
to
the
zoning
issue,
and
the
reasons
for
objecting
to
the
project
was
that
it's
compact
zoning
R3
isn't
allowed
so
this
project,
if
it
requires
R3
to
be
built,
doesn't
fit
into
there,
but
there
wasn't
a
specific
design
oriented
thing.
We
just
think
it's
best
practice
not
to
be
spot
rezoning.
AA
V
K
R
Yeah
Mr
chair,
commissioner
fin
Brock
Podium
parking
is
parking,
that's
within
the
ground
floor
of
the
structure.
So
in
this
case
it's
not
below
grade
it's
even
with
the
first
floor
of
the
apartment
building
and
it
is
enclosed
and
then
our
code
does
allow
parking
reductions
to
be
provided
for
the
podium
parking
as
well
as
for
having
on-street
parking
available
adjacent
to
the
site.
A
reduction
of
up
to
30
percent
is
allowed
in
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
utilize
those
reductions.
R
N
R
N
R
I
Chair
John,
so
the
parking
reduction
question
for
staff
and
the
applicant,
the
bicycle
parking
is
in
the
podium
area.
Is
that
right
next
to
the
vehicle
parking?
Yes,.
AD
AD
Could
go
through
the
lobby
which
also
encases
the
the
main
staircase
which,
where
it
would
be
like
where
the
mailboxes
would
be
located.
So
you
do
have
an
access
through
that
to
the
parking
garage
but
yeah
you'd
have
to
have
access
to
the
building
or
in
through
the
alleyway.
AD
W
I
O
Mr,
chair
Deborah
question
for
staff,
so
there's
this
bottom
there
on
the
upper
two
floors,
there's
a
good
deal
of
nice
articulation
and
windows
and
modulation
going
on
on
the
lower
floor.
It's
a
little
bit
less.
So
is
this
going
to
go
to
design
review
next.
Y
I
So
back
to
the
connectivity,
the
question
for
staff,
the
there's
no
mention
in
in
our
project
report
about
the
Leadville,
Bikeway
and
I
recall
distinctly
achd
made
it
a
huge
issue
in
2018,
because
the
first
Bikeway
in
the
county
that
they
worked
on
and
then
subsequently
the
achd
report
that
we
have
in
the
packet
doesn't
even
reference
a
Bikeway
that
they
went
to
extensive
lengths
to
advertise
and
get
people
to
use
so
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
why
we
didn't
reference
any
of
that.
R
I
Yes,
sir.
So
back
to
commissioner
Gillespie's
question
about
adverse
impact,
so
the
R3
Zone,
what
the
applicants
proposing
is
a
height,
that's
complies
with
the
R2
height
is
so
have
you
have
you
thought
about
an
adverse
impact
that
this
spot
zoning
as
you're
calling
it
would
impose
on
the
applicant.
AF
I
AF
Okay,
sorry,
commissioner
president,
commissioner
I
thought
I
heard
you
say
on
the
applicant
at
first,
so
that's
was
my
confusion.
AF
The
impact
on
the
neighborhood
is
that,
if
you
do
not
do
comprehensive
zoning,
as
we
saw
on
the
the
comprehensive
zoning
reform
we
just
went
through,
if
you
don't
do
it
in
a
comprehensive
way
in
a
collaborative
way,
you
can
end
up
with
areas
that
don't
fit
other
areas
and
issues
right.
So
you're
going
to
have
this
up
against
R2
on
the
South
Side,
not
separated
by
a
transition,
a
road,
an
alley
Etc
and
common
practice
in
this
neighborhood
has
been
when
we're
putting
R2
and
R3
next
to
each
other.
AF
You
either
put
them
across
an
alley
or
across
a
street
or
some
other
method
of
transition.
So
it's
really
a
best
practices,
and
also
just
the
zoning
code
discourages
spot
rezones
for
no
other
reason
than
to
fit
a
project.
Their
needs
to
be
a
justification
for
why
that
should
be
R3,
and
there
may
be
a
justification
for
why
you
know
the
whole
of
Beacon
needs
to
be
looked
at
for
zoning,
but
to
do
it
on
a
lot
by
lot.
Basis
is
not
encouraged
by
the
zoning
code,
nor
is
it
best
practices.
AF
A
D
Great,
thank
you.
Everybody
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
this
up
for
any
public
testimony.
Anybody
here
like
testify
on
this
item
no
takers,
no
one
else
online,
besides
Mr
bird,
so
I
think
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
and
at
this
point
applicant
gets
rebuttal
from
public
testimony.
So
we'll
give
you
a
couple
minutes.
If
you
want
to
wrap
it
up.
AD
You
know
I
do
understand
the
you
know
the
sense
of
the
question
of
the
rezone.
You
know
it
is
across
the
street.
It
is
on
the
corner
of
Longmont
and
Beacon.
It's
very
similar
to
you,
know,
Beacon
being
a
thoroughfare
between
Broadway
and
Park
Center.
It
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
commercial
I
think
it
might
have
some
down
there
on
the
the
East
end
of
it,
but
it
really
is
residential.
This
allows
students,
teachers
to
be
within
walking
distance
of
Albertsons
restaurants,
their
place
of
work,
their
place
of
Education.
AD
It
really
fits
the
neighborhood
there's
actually
a
unit
that
this
is
modeled
off
of
on
Jefferson
at
16th.
It
really
fits
well
into
the
neighborhood.
It's
got
good,
it's
got
you
know,
even
though
there
are
residential
homes
in
that
area.
Also,
it
just
sort
of
fits
into
the
side,
we're
not
going
any
higher
than
35
feet
so
we're
staying
within
that
zoning,
so
we're
not
trying
to
dominate
over
any
of
our
any
of
the
other
homes.
A
D
A
D
N
So
I'm
just
already
went
through
everything
but
Cena's
point
that
it's
spot
zoning
I
think
there's
R3
across
the
directly
adjacent
to
the
property.
It's
there's
I
mean
there's
actually
other
properties
in
the
vicinity
that
have
that
R3
Zone.
It
is
allowed
by
the
code,
and
so
it's
I,
don't
know
I
mean
it
would
be
encouraged
that
way
because
of
the
it
actually
spells
it
out.
If
it's
1.5,
Acres
or
less
you
can
have
that
R3,
Zone
and
again
the
height
is
limited
to
the
R2
zone.
N
So
we're
kind
of
sticking
with
the
other
properties
that
shouldn't
cause
an
adverse
effect,
and
so,
let's
see
yeah
for
that,
you
know
the
application
is
going
to
go
through
design
review,
so
it'll
get
a
second
look
and
parking
reduction
is
allowed
for
the
code
as
well.
So
for
that
reason,
I'm
in
support
of
this
application.
K
Okay,
thank
you,
Chris
Mr,
chair
yeah.
Thank
you,
I
think.
K
Mr
Berg
brings
up
a
great
point
because,
with
the
new
zoning
code
coming
on
we're
going
to
find
all
of
these
things
that
we
we
couldn't
anticipate
frankly
with
writing
611
new
pages
of
code,
so
just
to
throw
this
out
there
that
yeah,
the
old
the
old
code
at
R2,
is
35
feet,
but
the
new
code
in
R2
is
going
to
be
45
feet,
so
we
could
very
well
get
Cena
could
very
well
get
a
project
if
these
guys
held
off
and
built
this
after
December
1st
or
came
back,
they
could
get
a
45-foot
tall
building.
K
That
could
be
something
that
Cena
liked
even
less
where
it
could
be.
You
know
divided
up
into
now,
they're
going
to
get
10
units
instead
of
the
five
that
you
would
get
under
R2.
But
if
we
had
a
45-foot
building
that
we
divided
up,
where
there
were
four
students
living
on
each
floor,
then
you've
got
20
people
in
there,
which
the
neighborhood
would
would
probably
like
even
less
so
we're
just
gonna
have
we're
gonna
come
across
these
things.
K
As
we
deal
with
this
new,
you
know
the
intersection
of
old
code
in
the
new
code,
but
yeah
frankly,
I
think
that
this
project,
the
neighborhood,
is
going
to
prefer
much
more
than
what
they
would
get
after
December
1st.
If
we
just
left
it
at
R2,.
O
Sure
so,
I'm,
actually
not
in
support
of
emotion
but
I,
am
in
support
of
the
rezone,
just
not
the
Pud
and
I.
Just
can't
get
over
the
lack
of
accessibility
to
that
common
amenity.
On
that
third
level,
it's
if
you're
providing
an
amenity
I
feel
that
it
should
provide
equal
access
to
everybody,
and
that's
just
not
being
provided
here.
O
This
is
different
from
balconies
versus
patios,
or
something
like
this.
This
is
something
extra
that
would
not
be
accessible
to
someone
who
was
in
a
wheelchair
and
I'm
having
a
hard
time
approving
something
like
that.
It
just
feels
unequal
to
me
other
than
that
you
know
the
the
lower
level
it's
missing
some
modulation
there's
a
lot
of
really
attention
and
Care
given
to
those
upper
two
levels
for
that
lower
level
is
missing.
O
Some
of
that
too,
but
in
terms
of
the
rezone
I,
think
it's
appropriate,
especially
with
you
know
that
new
there's,
a
new
development
going
on
that
corner,
where
the
gym
used
to
be
it's
a
straight
shot
either
to
BSU
or
to
the
green
belt
access
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
put
density
there
and
put
a
higher
Zone
there.
But
the
accessibility
issue
is
just
not
something
that
I
can
support.
E
N
A
O
Think,
generally,
that
the
way
I
would
probably
work
because
I
understand
that
making
all
units
accessible
is
very
difficult
for
some
of
these
levels,
but
providing
a
common
space
equal,
an
equal
common
space
on
the
ground
level
would
be
how
I
would
word
it.
V
Mr
chairman
yeah
I'm
sensitive
to
this
issue,
I
understand
it.
As
I
understood
the
applicants
answer
they
had
met
the
requirement
for
the
open
space
for
the
folks
in
the
Ada
units.
V
I'd
be
cautious
about
kind
of
imposing
a
pretty
major
redesign
on
the
building
I'm,
not
an
architect
but
I,
think
putting
in
elevators
or
trying
to
create
many
hundreds
of
more
square
feet
of
open
space
on
the
ground
floor.
That
sounds
really
hard
so
since
they
meet
first
of
all
I'm
just
glad
they
have
Ada
units
period,
I
really
like
the
development,
so
on
balance,
I
would
support
the
motion,
as
is
without
requiring
some
Ada
kind
of
Equalization
across
all
the
units.
D
I
I
was
going
the
same
direction
as
you,
milled
I
agree
with
your
your
comments.
They're
meeting
the
code
requirement
for
the
unit
I
also
hear
what
you're
saying
too
Jennifer
I
understand
what
you're
saying
as
well,
but
I
I'm
falling
with
Milt
on
this
issue
myself
as
well,
that
they've
met
the
code
requirement
and
you
know
elevators
into
building
this
size
could
kill
the
project
right.
So
I
think
we
want
to
be
mindful
of
that.
Mr.
B
B
R
D
I
mean
we
can
certainly
entertain
an
amendment.
You
know
to
the
motion
I
think,
maybe
that
this
discussion
is
probably
the
applicants,
heard
our
concerns
and
they
do
have
to
go
through
the
step
of
design
review.
So
if
there's
a
possibility
of
them
to
maybe
look
at
the
ground
floor,
outdoor
amenity
space
hit
the
ground
floor,
maybe
increasing
Square
footages.
You
know
out
there
for
a
shared
amenity.
That
might
be
maybe
the
message
that
that
we
could
send
here
right
just
to
maybe
give
that
another
look.
Mr.
N
O
Yeah
yeah,
absolutely
I,
think
the
the
primary
point
was
just
there's
a
lot
of
attention
paid
to
that
kind
of
third
level
amenity.
It
wasn't
as
apparent
that
there
was
as
much
attention
paid
to
an
accessible
amenity
on
the
ground
floor,
and
so
that's
really.
The
intent
here
that
I'm
trying
to
convey
is
to
provide
a
and
equal
amenity
on
the
ground
floor
as
well.
So
I,
don't
think
you
know
putting
in
an
elevator
and
things
like
that.
O
F
I
I'm
kind
of
I'm
agreeing
with
the
Christian
Moore's
discussion
about
the
the
amenities
in
a
bit,
but
because,
as
as
our
packet
says,
the
description
amenities
for
this
project
is
bike.
Parking
which
we
talked
about
earlier
is
not
secure.
It's
just
a
rack.
In
an
insecure
area,
another
amenity
is
off
street
parking,
which
is
already
publicly
provided
in
common
areas
in
the
common
areas.
As
we
talked
about
are
not
fully
accessible,
so
I'm
torn
as
well.
V
V
Ada
excuse
me,
so
we're
bringing
it
up
here,
because
the
applicant
volunteered
that
the
two
floors
will
will
be
good
for
that
and
and
he's
showing
the
handicap
parking
spaces
in
the
diagram
and
now,
all
of
a
sudden
we're
we're
we're
like
we're
talking
about
a
pretty
major
change
in
the
site
design,
because
my
understanding
is
the
top
floor
amenity.
The
space
is
a
lot
big.
It's
the
whole
thing
right.
V
So,
if
you
look
at
the
like,
what
is
he
gonna
do
on
that
ground,
floor,
I
I,
don't
so
I,
don't
think
we're
being
very
realistic
here
or
consistent
in
in
the
way
we're
we're
sort
of
thinking
about
amenities
that
that
aren't
even
required
by
the
code
in
this
case
right
so
I
just
like
to
temper
our
conversation
on
I.
D
Think
they
were
probably
okay
again,
you
guys
can
certainly
make
the
amendment
if
you'd
like,
but
I,
think
we
probably
have
vetted
this
out.
I
think
everybody's
heard
the
concerns
right
and
understands
that
Jennifer
clarified
the
comments
right
about
the
articulation
and
the
detail,
so
I
think
we're
probably
okay,
but
with
that
said,
you
all
are
making
the
motions
in
the
amendments.
D
So
are
we
good
to
proceed?
Okay,
I'm,
getting
a
thumbs
up
from
Janelle
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
call
the
vote.
Then
we
have
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
of
the
rezone
and
a
motion
to
approve
the
Pud
motion
was
by
commissioner
finfrock
with
a
second
by
commissioner.
A
X
D
R
The
development
code
allows
fences
within
the
print
setback
to
be
constructed,
with
a
maximum
height
of
three
feet
per
solid
fences
or
four
feet
for
Clear
Vision
fences.
The
applicant
request
a
variance
to
allow
a
six
foot
solid
fence
to
be
constructed
within
the
front
setback
approximately
10
feet
from
the
front
property
line.
Construction
of
the
fence
has
already
began
as
shown
on
this
slide.
There
is
no
exceptional
circumstance
or
hardship
to
justify
the
variance
request.
The
applicant's
letter
of
intent,
site,
Safety
and
Security
concerns.
R
However,
similar
concerns
apply
to
other
properties
in
the
area
and
are
not
unique
to
the
subject
property.
The
letter
of
intent
also
references
existing
six
foot
fences
on
the
opposite
side
of
Ash
Park
Lane.
However,
those
fences
are
located
within
the
street
side
setbacks
where
six
foot
fences
are
allowed
and
they
do
reduce
in
height
within
the
front
setbacks
of
their
respective
properties.
Additionally,
a
potential
non-compliance
of
other
properties
in
the
area
is
not
sufficient
justification
for
a
variance
request.
R
Approval
of
the
variants
would
also
conflict
with
the
comprehensive
plan
which
encourages
reinforcing
established,
streetscape
character.
They're
all
are
alternatives
available
which
would
allow
the
applicant
to
install
a
fence
towards
the
front
of
their
property
while
complying
with
the
requirements
of
code.
For
example,
offense
with
a
height
of
three
to
four
feet
could
be
allowed
in
the
location
proposed
by
the
applicant
or
six
foot
fence
could
be
allowed
if
it
were
located
at
least
20
feet
from
the
front
property
line.
R
AG
AG
We
spent
the
last
eight
years
completely
tearing
down
our
house
because
of
the
mold.
What
we
thought
was
a
remodel
was
actually
a
total
teardown.
We
lost
everything
we
built
it.
We
rebuilt
it
from
the
foundation
up
on
nights
and
weekends.
We've
done
it
all,
and
it's
been
really
rewarding
in
so
many
ways.
AG
In
our
haste
of
what
was
seemingly
the
simplest
project
of
the
last
eight
years,
we
assumed
we
could
go
off
of
what
our
neighbors
across
the
street
did
for
their
fence
placement
and
height.
We
proceeded
with
countless
hours
into
building
a
beautiful
structural
steel,
welded
fence
that
once
finished
will
be
aesthetically
pleasing
for
our
style
of
house.
The
fence
provides
coherence
to
our
property.
AG
AG
It
wears
at
you
mentally.
It
affects
your
sleep,
so
it
eventually
wears
on
you
physically.
It
can
be
traumatic
in
some
instances
and
our
doctor
is
saying
that
it's
time
to
undergo
more
advanced
treatments
for
the
toxic
mold
and
Associated
chronic
illness
that
we
continue
to
face
from
our
exposure
that
we
need
rest
and
we
need
to
focus
on
our
healing
and
it's
impossible
to
rest
when
you
feel
like
you
always
have
to
keep
one
eye
open.
AG
AG
Our
neighbors
have
supported
us
over
the
years
and
want
that
for
us
as
well,
and
it's
surreal
to
be
at
this
stage
in
the
process
for
such
a
small
issue,
but
no
one
was
willing
to
have
a
reasonable
conversation
about
this.
Until
now,
we
know
how
valuable
your
time
is.
We
really
appreciate
your
time
and
consideration
of
approving
this
variance.
D
I
Mr,
chair
John,
just
to
clarify
so
the
the
setback.
Confusion
was
because
the
neighbors
across
the
streets
questioned
for
staff
Serena
the
neighbor
across
the
street
is
a
side
yard
setback
and
the
applicant
assumed
that
side
yard
setback
could
apply
to
their
front
yard.
Set
back.
Is
that
what
it
boils
down
to.
M
Mr,
commissioner
Mister
the
property
line
is
off
the
sidewalk.
Maybe
a
foot
within
a
foot
probably.
I
I'm
Roy
K
I
live
at
2907,
North
Ash,
Park
Lane,
the
Grandy's
and
I
are
neighbors
I'm
border,
the
fence,
that's
in
question.
I
am
pretty
surprised
that
staff
denied
the
building
of
this
and
if
they
had
taken
a
picture,
if
you
put
them
pictures
back
up
you'll
see
that
they
only
took
pictures
of
half
the
property,
but
they
got
a
Dandy
picture
in
my
house.
I
When
that
fence
is
finished,
it
would
tie
in
perfectly
with
what's
on
the
side
that
you
can't
see.
Unfortunately,
now
there
may
be
an
issue
about
the
height.
The
city
may
have
a
problem
with
that
and
the
location
for
the
setback.
I
drive
my
trailers
in
and
out
the
side
of
that
house
between
the
fence
and
the
house.
I
have
no
issues
when
I
get
to
the
sidewalk.
I
can
see
clear
up
the
delsea's
ice
cream
on
Ustick
I
can
look
South
until
I
see
Swift
Lane
down
there.
I
I
Q
A
V
D
Yeah,
you
guys
have
a
few
minutes
for
rebuttal.
If
you
want
to
come
back
up,
yeah.
K
D
M
Mr,
chair
Commissioners,
as
owner
and
builder
of
this
project,
I've
invested
considerable
time
and
money
Blood,
Sweat
and
Tears
I'm
sure
you
know
how
that
goes.
I've
also
spent
time
working
for
achd,
so
I
first
hand
know
traffic
and
pedestrian
flow.
I've
worked
on
sidewalks
streets
signals
intersections
building
roads,
so
I
did
assume
by
looking
at
what
my
neighbors
had
that
I
could
do
something
similar
and
I
neglected
to
properly
plan
this
out.
M
I
did
build
it
to
last.
It
is
all
steel
welded
in
place,
concrete
foundations
and
I
did
just
use
common
sense.
I
set
it
back
to
the
center
of
the
setback
so
that
using
our
driveway
personally
and
also
Roy
and
anybody
else
on
the
street
or
pedestrians,
it
would
be
safe,
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
issues
with
safety.
D
V
B
V
Chairman
right
bill,
I,
don't
have
anything
to
add
to
the
staff
report.
It's
it's
regrettable.
It's
always
sad
and
unfortunately
the
code
is
is
pretty
clear
on
this
and.
V
There's
no
hardship
and
there's
there's.
No.
You
know
exceptional
circumstance
that
I'm
aware
of
okay.
B
Mr,
chair
yeah,
it
was
I.
Have
the
same
note,
you
know,
there's
no.
B
We
heard
that
it
was
misinformation
or
assumptions
things
like
that,
but
unfortunately,
no
exceptional
circumstance
or
hardship.
K
Okay,
Mr,
chair,
yeah,
Chris
I
will
attempt
to
be
part
of
a
solution
for
you
guys,
I
know
the
I
I
like
the
fabrication
work,
you're,
obviously
very
good
at
it.
It
is
a
good
looking
fence.
It
just
needs
to
be
scaled
down
to
code,
something
that
can
be
done
for
free.
K
Is
you
the
Boise
Police
Department
is
happy
to
have
they.
We
have
Specialists
on
staff
that
will
come
out
and
help
you
harden
the
target.
They'll
show
you
what
you
can
do
to
help
make
your
property
look
more
cohesive
and
feel
safer,
so
that
is
something
the
BPD
will
do,
and
that
might
be
I
mean
aside
from
hiring
a
landscape
architect
who
could
help?
K
You
know
design
something
that
would
be
cohesive
and
workable,
that
obviously
costs
money,
but
BPD
will
would
happily
come
out
to
your
house
and
help
you
with
any
additional
security
concerns
that
you
have
so
I
would
just
throw
that
out.
There.
D
Either
comments:
okay,
go
ahead
and
yeah.
It's
regrettable.
Sorry,
Mr,
credible,
yeah,
I
appreciate
Chris's
comments.
Thank
you
Chris
for
that
nice
suggestion.
So
all
the
best
moving
forward
with
another
solution
and
reducing
the
height
or
shifting
it
back
a
little
bit.
I
guess
it's
about
the
only
two.
The
two
best
options
at
this
point
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll
again
CVA
23-2
motion
to
deny
by
commissioner
Gillespie
with
the
second
by
commissioner
Stead.
K
D
D
This
is
a
general
exception
to
apply
the
c2d
zoning
District
standards
to
the
entire
subject
property
in
order
to
develop
a
mixed-use
project,
including
a
multi-family
hotel
and
religious
institution.
Height
exception
is
included
in
the
condition,
use
permit
or
a
planned
unit
development,
a
price
of
183
multi-family
units
on
9.12
acres
and
a
c2d
and
r1c
zones.
That
is
a
mouthful
and
we're
going
to
hear
from
Sabrina
again.
R
All
right,
Mr,
chair
members
of
the
commission,
the
item
before
you
is
a
request
for
a
general
exception
to
apply
the
c2d
zoning
District
standards
to
the
entire
subject
property
in
order
to
develop
a
mixed-use
project,
including
multi-family,
a
hotel
and
a
religious
institution,
a
height
exception,
and
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
unit.
Development
comprised
of
183
multi-family
units
on
9.12
Acres,
located
at
3300,
South
Vista
Avenue,
are
also
included.
R
The
subject
property
is
located
at
the
northeastern
corner
of
the
I-84
Vista
Avenue
interchange
and
the
surrounding
areas
comprised
of
a
mix
of
uses,
including
single-family
homes,
hotels
offices,
a
restaurant
and
a
convenience
store.
The
subject:
property
is
split
zoned,
with
approximately
five
acres
of
the
nine
Acre
Site
Zone
c2d,
and
the
remaining
four
acres
known
to
r1c.
The
requested
General
exception
will
allow
the
standards
of
the
c2d
zone
to
be
applied
to
the
entirety
of
the
site.
R
The
applicant
proposes
to
construct
a
hotel
and
religious
institution
in
the
Northwestern
portion
of
the
site
near
Vista
Avenue,
three
multi-family
buildings
containing
a
total
of
183
dwelling
units
are
proposed
in
the
Southeastern
portion
of
the
site.
A
comprehensive
pedestrian
network
is
proposed
throughout
the
site
and
a
recommended
condition
of
approval
requires
the
applicant
to
construct
curb
better
and
detached
sidewalks
with
landscape
buffers
containing
Street
trees
along
all
of
the
site's
frontages,
with
the
exception
of
its
furniture
on
I-84
per
the
requirements
of
achd
and
brt,
the
applicant
will
be
required
to
remove
vehicular.
F
R
To
the
site
from
Vista
Avenue
and
provide
a
bus
stop
near
the
Northwestern
corner
of
the
site,
20
of
the
residential
units
within
the
project
will
be
income
restricted
for
a
term
of
30
years
to
households
earning
less
than
100
of
the
area.
Median
income.
This
provision
of
affordable
units
qualifies
the
residential
structures
within
the
development
to
utilize
the
maximum
height
of
55
feet
through
the
incentives
of
the
housing
bonus,
ordinance
Additionally.
The
applicant
request
a
height
exception,
to
allow
the
hotel
and
religious
institution
to
be
built
with
a
maximum
height
of
65
feet.
R
The
height
exception
is
anticipated
to
have
minimal
impact
on
the
adjacent
properties
due
to
the
separation
between
the
proposed
structures
and
the
adjacent
single-family
homes.
Public
comments
were
received
from
two
neighbors
of
the
site.
One
expressed
opposition
to
the
proposal
due
to
its
potential
to
increase
traffic
and
negatively
affect
pedestrian
and
bicycle
safety
in
the
area.
The
other
requested
that
the
commission
require
the
applicant
to
perform
pest
control
before
beginning
excavation
on
site,
as
outlined
in
your
packets.
D
AE
Now,
once
again,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
Jeff
Wardle
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
my
address.
D
X
AE
Floor
anyway,
sorry,
it
has
been
a
long
day
if
staff
can
go
ahead
and
pull
up.
AE
My
my
presentation
we're
going
to
try
to
get
through
this
relatively
straightforward,
because
all
the
conversations
that
you
have
heard
tonight
about
other
concerns
and
other
applications
I
think
we
heard
those
from
your
staff
a
year
ago
and
made
those
those
changes,
and
this
too,
is
an
application
which,
by
the
passage
of
time
and
with
the
efforts
that
you
put
in
with
the
new
code,
a
lot
of
the
requests
are
muted
by
what
has
been
approved
so
we're
here
on
behalf
of
Boise
Management
Inc,
who
owned
the
nine
acres
that
is
I
still
refer
to
it
as
the
Holiday
Inn
property,
because
that's
what
we
all
knew
it
as
and
in
fact
it
is
a
1965
era.
AE
Holiday
Inn
we've
requested
a
plan
unit
development
application
with
a
general
exception
due
to
the
mixed
zoning
again,
the
mixed
zoning
is
eliminated
under
the
new
code
and
we
think
that
this
is
the
type
of
appropriate
neighborhood
mixed
use
that
leverages
the
existing
economic
base.
That
is
there
and
you
have
an
owner
that
is
committed
to
True,
affordable,
taking
advantage
of
those
those
changes
that
you
made.
So
as
noted,
we
are
requesting
three
height
exceptions.
The
the
housing
height
exception
comes
through
compliance
with
the
affordable
housing
provision.
AE
The
other
two
are
the
the
religious
institution
and
going
from
a
two-story
Hotel
to
a
five-story
hotel,
but
as
you've
also
talked
and
heard
about
tonight.
As
you
know,
there
is
an
elevation
difference
between
as
you
come
off.
If
you
come
off
Vista
anywhere
from
six
to
15
feet
so
again,
taking
those
things
into
consideration
in
staff's
Direction,
we've
made
a
variety
taking
a
variety
of
actions.
Now,
uniquely
there
is
the
two
acres
on
the
Eastern
Edge
that
has
never
been
developed
and
all
three
structures
date
from
the
mid-1960s.
AE
You
have
two
acres
of
undeveloped
property
that
takes
access
back
there
on
right
and
apple
blossom.
We
are
proposing
the
demolition
of
those
buildings.
They
have
reached
the
end
of
their
functional
lives.
They
are
stucco
buildings
with
flat
roofs
and
the
time
and
economics
have
have
caught
up
with
that.
The
property
owners
have,
you
know,
never
had
a
client
come
to
us
go.
You
know
we
want
to
build,
affordable
housing.
We
want
to
build
a
five-story
hotel
and
a
religious
institution
on
one
site
and
I.
AE
Go
I,
don't
know
how
much
more
mix
with
below
ground
parking
and
not
asking
for
a
parking
reduction
so,
to
a
certain
extent
it's
kind
of
a
unicorn
application.
It's
the
ReUse
of
a
parcel
that
has
lived
its
its
good
life,
it's
consistent
with
what
the
use
is
there
and
we
recognize
that
there
needs
to
be
sensitivity
to
the
single-family
residential
development
to
the
East,
and
so
that's
why
we
make
those
transitions
so
to
quickly
move
through
it.
AE
183
apartments
in
three
buildings,
240
room
hotel
with
approximately
12
000
square
feet
of
meeting
and
restaurant
space
and
then
a
12
000
square
foot,
Hindu
temple,
which
sits
up
there
on
Elder
Street.
With
respect
to
this,
we
will
comply
with
all
of
the
requirements
of
the
Boise
city
code
for
housing,
affordability.
We
have
a
variety
of
Housing
and
use
types
with
a
few
three
bedroom
units,
as
well
as
a
mix
of
one
and
two
bedroom
units
and
on
the
Eastern
Edge.
AE
Those
are
two-story
stacked
flats
that
have
all
of
the
living
space
oriented
towards
the
hotel
to
the
east,
to
the
West,
with
essentially
windows
for
bathrooms
and
garages
back
I
mean
windows
for
bathrooms
and
kitchens
oriented
to
the
residents
to
the
east,
which
are
a
mix
of
one
and
two
bedroom.
Additionally,
there
is
15
plus
feet
of
space
plus
Landscaping,
which
is
above
and
beyond
the
requirements
along
the
northern
property
boundary.
AE
Again
we
have
proposed
a
five-story
development,
but
we
have
placed
amenities
between
it
and
the
single
family
residences
to
the
north,
including
a
Tot
Lot,
including
a
courtyard
pickleball,
enhanced
pedestrian
walkways
in
an
indoor
indoor
pool
and
other
amenity
features.
So
you
know
I
think
we've
we've
gone
and
above
and
beyond,
what's
required
under
the
puds
with
respect
to
the
Hotel,
this
will
combine
the
three
existing
Hotel
buildings
into
a
single
building.
AE
That
is
five
stories
and,
as
you
can
see
there
in
the
this
corner,
right
here
is
the
corner
that
is
towards
the
intersection
and
The
Interchange,
and
so,
as
you
think
about
it,
you're
coming
off
a
slope
here
and
we
have
tried
to
put
the
back
of
house
and
and
do
all
of
those
things
there
now
Hindu
temple
very
straightforward.
It
is
a
two-story
structure
in
a
traditional
Hindu
design,
so
we
are
in
agreement
with
all
of
the
conditions
recommended
in
the
staff
report.
AE
There
are
two
items
that
we
acknowledge
are
going
to
require
further
refinement
as
we
get
to
design
review,
because
this
will
require
design
review
and
the
first
is
public
works,
and
fire
expressed
concern
about
this.
AE
AE
We
may
have
we're
going
to
have
to
modify
this
because
there's
just
not
enough
room
there
to
put
in
a
turnaround
for
fire
and
for
Public
Works
and
to
address
their
garbage,
and
then
the
fire
department,
as
you
know,
raised
some
issues
with
respect
to
access
to
this
point,
and
there
are
some
solutions
that
we've
already
talked
to
them
about.
AE
We
recognize
this
is
going
to
require
modification
and
that's
why
I'm
not
having
a
fight
with
achd
tonight,
because
we
think,
as
we
work
through
the
issues
with
fire,
we're
going
to
have
to
come
back
and
address
how
that
access
right
there
Works
anyway,
so
we
discretion
being
the
better
part
of
valor
recognize
that's
an
issue
for
another
day.
The
other
issue
that
comes
up
in
again
as
we
deal
with
achd
and
it's
the
only
thing
we
need
guidance
from
you
on
is
when
we
designed
this
and
we
had
our
traffic
study
done.
AE
It
contemplated
an
access
up
here
onto
Elder
retaining
an
access
onto
Vista,
but
that
becoming
right
in
right
out
and
as
a
recognition
of
the
concerns
of
the
neighbors.
This
access
on
to
right,
which
then
comes
out
to
Apple
Blossom
and
up
to
Elder,
we
agreed,
would
be
restricted
to
just
a
an
emergency
fire
access
with
with
ballers
achd
and,
and
that
was
the
direction
we
also
had
received
at
the
time
from
staff.
AE
As
we
got
the
staff
reports
and
worked
through
that,
you
know
that's
just
going
to
take
some
design
issues
and
conversations
with
fire.
So
we
want
some
guidance
from
you
because
it's
helpful
when
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
tells
us
exactly
what
they
want
to
see.
We
recognize
the
benefit
back
there
on
right
and
apple
blossom
to
the
neighbors
to
improve
the
pedestrian
connectivity
by
putting
in
the
curb
Gutter
and
sidewalk
that
doesn't
exist.
AE
You
don't
necessarily
need
vehicular
access
back
there
other
than
for
fire,
because
most
of
those
trips
can
go
back
out
to
Elder
into
the
light,
because
that's
where
they're
going
to
go
anyway,
but
those
are
the
issues
that
we
have
to
work
through.
So
we
have
our
design
team
here.
Obviously
you
guys
know
my
beef
that
conditional
use
permits
have
become
the
only
thing
we
don't
bring
to.
AE
If
we
have
any
design
questions,
I
do
have
our
design
team.
Who
can
can
walk
you
through,
but
we
just
don't
want
to
take
any
more
of
your
time.
I
I
AE
A
K
What's
the
relationship
of
the
Hindu
temple
to
the
whole
development.
AE
Mr
chair
commissioner
Blanchard
the
property
owners
being
Hindu
desire
to
have
a
cultural
center
celebrating
their
faith.
K
AE
V
No
please,
this
is
a
question
for
both
the
city
and
the
applicant,
so
I'm
thinking
about
these
the
access
point
issue
and
the
applicant's
requests
that
we
opine
upon
those
questions.
V
As
I
understand,
the
staff
reported
it's
contemplating
kind
of
the
end,
State
being
that
Northern
access
point
on
to
Sunrise,
Rim
Road
right,
that's
number
one
and
then
I'm
unclear
is.
Is
it
the
city's
view
that
the
Final
End
state?
Is
that
that
Vista
Avenue
access
point
will
be
closed
because
that's
what
achd
wants
or
is
it
because
it's
what
the
city
wants.
A
V
Okay,
what
and
then
what
is
the
I'm
confused,
I'm
trying
to
read
the
achd
report?
What
is
their
final
decision
with
respect
to
that
access?
Point
on
to
Wright
Street
that
one
in
the
Far
Eastern
corner.
R
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Gillespie.
The
recommendation
is:
that's
a
full
access.
AE
No
Mr.
V
AE
To
align
upon
Miss,
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Gillespie,
you
know
our
traffic
study
contemplated
restricting
the
Vista
to
a
write-in
Rideout
with
the
access
on
the
Elder
and
then
I
think
there
was
a
miscommunication
at
some
point,
because
the
staff
had
directed
us
that
the
the
easternmost
access
should
be
restricted.
There
was
a
note
in
one
of
the
follow-up
reports
from
either
achd
or
planning
staff
that
it
hadn't
been
designated
that
way
on
the
plans
and
I
went
back
and
looked
at
it
yeah.
AE
It
isn't
designated
that
way,
but
that's
what
we
were
directed
to
do
so,
commissioner,
Gillespie
I
just
want
to
know
I,
knowing
that
we
had
committed
in
neighborhood
meetings
that
that
would
be
restricted.
It
would
be
our
preference
that
that
be
restricted,
and
it
is
our
preference
that
this
to
be
limited
to
write
in
right
out,
because
we
don't
think
of
full
access,
there's
appropriate,
but
we
also
don't
think
sending
4
000
trips
a
day
onto
Elder
Street
is
appropriate
and
necessary
either.
AE
D
V
Sabrina,
what's
your
preference
for
that
right
Street,
do
you
want?
Does
the
city's
view
they
want
full
access
or
just
emergency
vehicles.
R
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Gillespie
I
think
it
would
depend
on
where
we
land
with
achd
on
the
access
onto.
AA
M
V
AE
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Gillespie:
yes,
we,
the
one
on
Elder,
would
be
relocated
farther
to
the
east
and
the
Vista
one
is
approximately
that
we've
proposed
is
approximately
in
the
location
that
exists
today.
There's
you're
thinking,
if
there's
an
access
behind
Jackson's
into
that
building,
that
is
parallel
to
Elder
Maybe.
Y
V
AE
Like
and
Mr
chairman,
commissioner
Gillespie,
our
our
fine
architect,
pointed
out
that
part
of
the
reason
we
just
need.
Some
guidance
is
that
if
you
eliminate
Vista
and
we're
forced
to
do
everything,
then
we're
adding
183
new
residences
on
to
Elder,
which
only
has
that
point
of
access.
So
that's
why
we
think
this
is
a
conversation
for
us,
the
fire
department,
achd
and
staff,
as
we
get
to
design
review.
I
Mr,
chair
yeah
I've
got
a
question
about
the
South
Frontage
to
the
I-84
ramp.
So
the
way
I
understand
it
is
Apple
Blossom
extended
South
is
about
the
end
of
the
I-84
noise
barrier
is.
AC
I
R
Yeah
Mr
chair
commissioner
Mooney
I
believe
that
was
constructed
concurrently
with
the
development
of
the
residential
subdivisions
and
that
area
I'm,
honestly,
not
sure
whether
that
was
constructed
by
the
developer
or
whether
that
was
an
improvement
installed
by
itd.
We
did
transmit
this
to
itd.
They
didn't
recommend
any
improvements
by
the
applicant
in
that
location,
but
if
there
are
concerns
about
sound
impacts
and
those
types
of
things,
the
commission
can
add
additional
conditions
to
address
those
Mr.
AE
Mr
chairman
councilmember,
commissioner
Rooney
I,
actually
have
history
with
all
of
that
representing
most
of
the
property
owners.
There
we
did
those
garby
when
we
did
that
intersection
with
Garvey
bonds
and
the
current
walls
that
extend
both
to
the
East
and
to
the
West.
That
is,
that
finished.
Textured
concrete
was
constructed
at
that
time
and
if
you
recall,
the
Vista
interchange
was
reconfigured,
third
and
and
lengthened
it
was
widened,
but
they
they
they
brought
it
in.
AE
You
know
it's
a
modified
spewy,
so
it's
a
little
bit
tighter
and
a
little
bit
higher,
so
those
improvements
were
done
contemplating
the
uses
that
were
there
to
screen
the
residences
farther
to
the
east,
as
well
as
the
hotel,
and
in
fact
there
was
litigation
with
the
prior
owner
and
the
Idaho
Transportation
Department
over
whether
or
not
that
wall
was
too
tall,
ending
up
at
the
Idaho
Supreme
Court,
finding
that
it
was
not
too
tall
and
didn't
eliminate
the
use
so
we're
comfortable
with
it.
AE
We
recognize
you
know,
we
recognize
the
location,
we
recognize
the
noise
issues
that
exist
and
our
design
team
has
taken
that
in
consideration
with
how
we've
designed
and
positioned
those
buildings.
I
That
Building
B
so
you're
not
necessarily
concerned
about
the
the
noise
impact
on
building.
Be
there
the
fact
that
the
wall
ends
before
that
area.
Q
V
No
one
last
swing
at
the
access
point
question,
so
is
it
the
city's
is,
isn't
the
city's
General
view
that
the
more
access
points
the
better
because
we
spread
traffic
out
and
you
know,
reduce
bottlenecks?
So,
as
I
read
the
city's
report,
it
seems
like
you're
you're
supporting
the
idea
of
having
three
access
points,
including
the
Vista
write
in
and
write
out.
Is
that
is
that
fair
to
say.
R
R
D
AE
It
could
and
when
we
got
the
staff
report,
we
got
the
comments
from
fire.
We
immediately
had
the
design
team
make
a
call
just
to
understand
what
the
issue,
what
the
solution
in
their
mind
is,
and
so
there
are
two
issues.
AE
It's
the
150
foot
hose
length
that
we're
going
to
have
to
address
there
as
well
as
this
turnaround,
and
we
don't
perceive
that
to
be
a
problem
we
can
sort
through
that
so
in
discussing
it
with
fire.
One
of
the
suggestions
is:
if
we
made
this
be
a
plaza
that
supported
the
weight
of
trucks
and
apparatus,
you
could
do
that.
The
other
issue
is
that,
yes,
they
can
take
access
off
of
Vista,
but
because
of
the
elevation
change
that
becomes
problematic,
and
so
that's
why
we
don't
have
a
definitive
answer.
AE
I
mean
our
traffic
study
said
restrict
this
right.
Now,
it's
full
achd
is
not
medianized
Vista
at
some
point.
I
would
anticipate
that
they
would.
We
have
no
desire
to
make
left-hand
turns
out
of
that.
But
that's
why,
as
we
talk
to
fire
about
what
the
solutions
are
to
make
sure
we
have
that
it
becomes
either
a
a
circulation.
You
know
basically
build
the
hammer
head
right
here,
so
we
can
get
there
or
address
it
through
retaining
walls
and
stairs
that
are
heated
that
are
all
year
round.
AE
But
that's
that's
why,
as
we
look
at
this,
knowing
that
you
got
to
make
that
change
that
Cascades
a
bunch
of
other
stuff,
and
we
just
think
that
we
can
address
design
reviews
the
appropriate
time
to
address
it
because
worst
case,
if
we
had
to
I,
mean
we're
just
barely
beyond
the
150
feet
at
that
corner.
So
you
know,
there's
some
potential
other
structural
things
that
you
could
do
and
way
you
can
do
it,
but
you
know
we.
AE
We
pushed
it
to
that
corner
at
the
request
of
staff
to
not
have
not
have
you
know
the
traditional
Fire
Road
around
it
and
that's
fine
and
I
think
it
works
better
with
the
site
by
pushing
it
there,
because
you're
you're
right
up
against
the
slope
but
yeah,
that's
an
issue
we
have
to
work
through
and
we
appreciate.
We
appreciate
fires,
timely
response,
they
took
the
call
and
they
said
yeah.
We
can
work
through
that
at
design
review.
A
D
And
then,
like
you
mentioned
back
on
the
Apple
Blossom
Lane
So
within
the
neighborhood
meeting,
you
had
that
access,
as
as
buyer,
only
correct
so
I
mean
this
is
a
totally
loaded,
question
I'm
sure
the
neighborhood
I'm
sure
had
some
concerns
about
that
being
full
access,
correct,
rabid
concerns.
X
Chair
members
of
the
commission,
Dave
beater,
eighth
in
Maine
I
spent
16
years
on
that
side.
X
This
side
very
much
so
be
be
kind
to
me.
I
I
was
glad
that
you
picked
up
on
that
because
one
of
the
reasons
there
isn't
anybody
here
tonight,
it's
because
we
along
the
along
the
process
here
agreed
to
make
that
emergency
access
only
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
them,
obviously,
but
that
that
in
some
of
the
other
design
changes
we
made,
you
know
one
being
the
the
two-story
closest
to
the
neighborhood.
X
But
as
it
always
is,
traffic
was
a
big
issue.
You
know
in
talking
with
City
staff.
They
were
amenable
that
that
fire,
as
far
as
the
rest
of
the
property
was
was
very
good
with
that,
but
we
did
make
that
commitment
to
the
to
the
neighbors
and
we
we
hope
to
keep
that
yeah.
Okay,.
E
D
A
I
Chair
wait,
yeah,
John,
yeah,
I,
guess
I
do
have
a
question,
so
we
talked
about
the
okay,
the
VRT.
We
didn't
talk
about
the
VRT,
stop
out
there
in
Vista,
I,
guess:
question
for
the
applicant
Mr
World.
Can
you
talk
through
that,
as
well
as
the
the
bike
lane
out
there?
That's
there's
a
bike
lane
which
is
substandard
and
they've
got
the
question
is:
can
you
ex?
Can
you
improve
that
Frontage
properly
Mr.
AE
Chairman
commissioner
Mooney,
we
have
no
objections
or
concerns
to
brt's
request
for
modifying
that
and
and
relocating
it
I
mean
essentially
they're
asking
us
to
relocate
it
to
the
south
of
Jackson's.
As
for
improving
any
further
improvements
to
that,
Frontage
I
mean
that
was
all
part
of
the
rebuild
of
the
Vista
interchange.
There
was,
you
know,
a
condemnation
that
took
that
Frontage
and
further
refined
it
and
moved
it.
So
we're
not
contemplating
any
additional
Frontage
improvements
due
to
the
fact
that
that
was
the
ultimate
facility
that
was
built.
AH
Name
and
address
okay.
Well,
my
name
is
Justin
goth
I
live
on
2480
Sunrise
Rim,
so
it's
right,
Apple
Blossom
right
there
and
I
have
Talia
with
me.
Brantley
I
wasn't
planning
to
talk,
but
since
I'm
here
no
one
else
is
I.
Just
wanted
to
share
that.
I
am
excited
as
I've
seen
the
updates
about
this
plan
to
go
forward
to
redevelop
the
site.
AH
It
definitely
needs
it
and
I'm
very
excited
to
have
a
site
with
people
living
there
versus
the
hotels
that
are
there
now
I
think
it's
a
great
plan.
I
love
the
address
of
the
the
Hindu
temple
being
a
built-in
part
of
that
it's
really
cool
to
see
and
I.
Definitely
the
only
call
that
I'd
say
is
I
definitely
share
the
concern
about
the
like
access
points.
AH
There
I'm
sure
that's
a
thing
for
achhd
from
what
I'm
hearing,
but
already
the
amount
of
traffic
that
feeds
through
if
most
of
that
traffic
is
feeding
through
east
of
Apple
Blossom
through
Sunrise
Rim
versus
being
able
to
get
more
directly
to
Vista.
I
would
definitely
feel
concerned
about
that.
I've
had
several
kids
almost
get
hit
on
that
road.
Several
animals
actually
get
hit
on
that
road.
Don't
love
it
so
definitely
share
the
concern
over
access
points.
AH
D
AE
Jeff
Wardle
251
East
Front,
Suite
310..
We
have
no
rebuttal
we're
in
agreement
with
the
comments
you
just
heard
from
our
neighbor
I'm
excited
about
the
project.
You
know
when
I
first
moved
back
to
Boise
my
office
was
there
in
the
eye
cream,
building
and
I
I
sat
there
and
looked
at
the
Holiday
Inn
day
after
day
after
day,
so
we
appreciate
having
a
client
who
is
committed
to
doing
something
unique
and
interesting,
and
it's
great
project
that
we've
been
able
to
to
work
on
with
them
and
it's
one
of
those.
AE
D
V
Mr,
chairman
I,
would
milk
point
of
privilege
please,
since
our
August
commissioner,
stead
has
been
kicked
upstairs
and
is
now
leaving
the
small
time
two
Snickers
meeting
going
to
the
big
stage.
I
think
we
ought
to
allow
commissioner
stead
to
make
her
send
off
motion.
However,
she.
AG
V
I
I
wondered
if
right
away,
we
should
adequate
I
would
basically
we
can
either
condition
it
or
just
put
it
in
the
record,
but
personally
I'd
like
to
condition
that
the
Vista
axis
stay
right
in
right
out
and
stay
open
and
that
the
right
access
be
bollarded
for
emergency
vehicles.
Only
I
think
if
we
move
away
from
that
and
they're
linked
right.
V
If
we
move
away
from
that
and
open
that
right,
Street
access
that
we
kind
of
need
to
do
a
whole
new
hearing,
because,
because
that
neighborhood
is
going
to
see,
you
know,
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
a
ton
of
traffic,
but
some
and
so
I
sort
of
feel
like
we
need
to
take
a
stand
on
the
Vista
access
so
that
we
don't
run
into
a
problem
with
that
right,
Axis
plus
I
think
look.
The
vista's
axis
is
already
there.
A
B
I
really
appreciate
the
proactive
working
with
the
neighborhood.
That
always
saves
us.
A
lot
of
headache
up
here.
I
also
appreciate
the
collaboration
with
the
commission
and
looking
for
guidance,
and
that's
rare
I
think
this
is
a
really
great
mixed-use
project
and
looking
forward
to
seeing
seeing
it
come
come
around.
V
Yeah
I
I
generally,
would
want
all
access
all
the
time.
All
three
but
I
I.
Think
mayor
beater's
point
about
like
the
neighborhood
and
the
and
you
know,
sort
of
almost
the
procedural
aspect
is
a
pretty
important
point
and
I
just
point
out
in
the
record
that
the
the
access
point
on
Vista
is
already
there
and
I
don't
see
that
it
makes
Vista
run
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot
better
just
to
close
it
if
we
make
it
right
and
right
out,
and
so
that's
what
I
think.
Okay.
D
O
Right
I'll
be
in
support
of
the
motion
with
the
amendment
I.
Think
especially
you
know.
Our
traffic
impact
study
says,
recommends
right
and
right
out
on
Vista
I.
Think
there's
some
conflict
between
what
achd
is
saying.
What's
traffic
impact
the
study
is,
is
recommending
so
I
feel
comfortable
keeping
that
Vista
as
writing
right
out
because
of
the
traveling
effects.
I
think
so.
D
Yeah
great,
do
you
know.
N
A
V
K
Mr,
chair
Chris,
just
real,
quick
yeah
I,
really
appreciate
this
application.
I
think
it's
so
great
that
we
finally
have
a
religious
institution
stepping
up
and
delivering
some
affordable
housing.
That's
just
super
cool
and
I
hope,
it'll
be
a
model
for
others
in
the
city
too
Mr
Goff.
Thank
you
so
much
for
hanging
out
it's
a
late
hour,
and
that
was
great
that
you
showed
up
and
had
a
little
civics
lesson
for
your
kids
too.
K
That's
awesome
and
and
I
have
every
confidence
in
the
world
that
Mr,
Wardle
and
Mr
reader
will
meet
with
our
planning
of
fire
staff
and
echd
and
get
this
all
squared
away
for
design
review.
So
I
have
no
concern
with
that.
So
appreciate
the
great
application.
D
Okay,
very
good:
we
got
a
motion
to
approve
by
future
councilwoman
instead
and
a
second
by
commissioner
Gillespie
CE,
not
future
councilwoman,
no
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.