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Description
Modern Zoning Code, Day 3
A
Good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
the
Boise
City
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
public
hearing.
We
have
a
few
extra
opening
remarks
and
then
the
chair
will
go
into
further
detail
on
how
we
will
proceed
this
evening
and
the
rest
of
the
week.
This
commission
is
made
up
of
Citizen
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
the
city
council.
A
They
make
final
decisions
on
conditional
use,
permits,
variances
and
appeals
and
recommendations
to
the
city
council
on
subdivisions,
rezones
annexations,
as
well
as
code
and
comprehensive
plan
amendments,
as
is
in
the
case
in
this
week's
agenda
item
each
year
in
this
week,
will
be
held
in
a
hybrid
format.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
virtually
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak
once
time
for
Testimony
has
begun
virtually
raise
your
hand
and
you'll
be
called
upon
and
unmuted.
There
is
a
chat
function
in
Zoom.
A
A
Today
we
will
begin
with
a
brief
presentation
from
the
planning
team
to
follow-ups
on
some
of
the
questions
from
yesterday
and
then,
after
that,
we'll
continue
with
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
signed
up
in
advance,
then
anyone
else
who
signed
up
here
in
person
and
then
anyone
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
if
you're
attending
through
your
telephone,
you
can
type
in
Star
nine.
To
raise
your
hand
each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
for
Testimony.
We
are
strict
with
this
time
as
it
is
limiting
Limited
in
code.
A
Public
testimony
will
continue
through
tonight
and
tomorrow,
if
needed.
But
if,
at
any
point
we
have
no
more
folks
signed
up
to
testify,
the
public
hearing
portion
will
be
closed.
Staff
will
be
given
time
for
a
rebuttal
on
the
commission
will
deliberate
and
render
a
recommendation.
Finally,
please
expect
a
few
quick
breaks
from
proceedings,
as
well
as
a
half
hour
dinner
break
at
7
pm
this
evening.
As
we
have
a
long
night
ahead
of
us
Mr
chair,
you
have
the
floor.
B
Thank
you
Crystal,
good
evening.
Everybody
thank
you
for
being
here
this
evening.
A
couple
of
points
here
before
we
start
out
tonight.
Our
main
goal
tonight
is
to
have
a
fair
hearing
hearing
where
all
voices
are
heard
with
courtesy
and
respect.
So
a
few
simple
rules
for
us
for
us
all
to
follow
when
you
testify
tonight.
You'll
come
up
here
to
the
podium.
You'll
all
have
three
minutes
when
you
get
to
the
podium-
and
please
start
with
your
name
and
address
when
you
begin
your
test,
your
testifying
as
people
are
testifying.
B
B
If
we
receive
comments
with
raised
voices
or
profanities,
we'll
stop
your
time
and
push
you
to
the
end
of
the
line
for
the
evening.
If
you
ask
a
question
during
your
testimony,
that's
totally
fine.
However,
the
commission
cannot
answer
questions
while
you're
testifying
we
are
here
to
listen
and
then
we
will
address
questions
as
we
deliberate
here
later
tonight
or
tomorrow.
B
B
We're
certainly
interested
in
hearing
everyone's
comments,
but
we're
certainly
also
listening
looking
for
new
input
and
comments,
when
you
testify
we're
planning
to
close
the
hearing
tonight
around
10,
maybe
a
little
later,
if
needed,
we
get
much
later
than
that,
it
gets
hard
for
us
all
to
pay
attention
as
we
all
get
tired,
including
you
all
for
again,
as
Crystal
mentioned,
we're
going
to
hear
from
City
staff
to
start
us
out
this
evening
and
then
we'll
open
up
again
the
public
testimony
and
proceed
from
there.
B
Let's
see
and
then
we
are
playing
on
dinner
break
at
about
seven
for
a
half
an
hour
and
then
we'll
pick
up
any
remaining
testimony
after
that
and
then
move
into
rebuttal
and
deliberations.
If
time.
C
D
E
D
E
B
F
Chair
members
of
the
commission,
thank
you
again
for
your
third
night
on
the
new
zoning
ordinance
and
everybody
that's
here
tonight
and
has
been
here
all
week
to
participate
in
such
an
important
discussion
about
how
we
regulate
development
in
the
city
appreciate
everybody's,
genuine
interest
in
in
getting
this
right
and
regardless
of
your
opinion,
your
concern
for
the
city
and
that
we
we
do
things
well
here
in
Boise.
So
thank
you
all
for
this
two
things
I
thought
I'd
speak
to
tonight.
F
The
first,
if
you'd
like,
is
to
perhaps
finish
the
discussion
that
we
started
last
night
about
the
R2
District,
which
a
reminder
that,
along
these
few
corridors,
Vista
Fairview
and
State
Street,
where
we're
proposing
mx-3,
which
is
a
new
district
for
these
Transit
corridors,
to
get
us
a
little
more
density
there,
which
we
think
we
want
and
need
right
behind,
that
MX3
the
front
and
down
those
streets
were
posing
to
rezone
properties
within
an
eighth
of
a
mile
of
the
center
line
of
each
of
those
streets
to
R2.
So
those
properties
are
now.
F
If
there
are
one
which
is
a
single
family
District,
they
would
go
to
R2,
which
is
a
little
bit
higher
density,
the
idea
being
you
step
down
from
the
denser
stuff
on
on
the
street,
to
the
R2
and
then
down
to
the
single
family.
We
think
it's
a
very
important
aspect
of
this
because
it
it
is
again
trying
to
get
the
people
we
will
be
having
in
the
city
in
places
where
it's
helpful
and
near
Transit,
because
Transit
is
so
integral
to
this
city
being
successful.
F
So
we
got
into
this
discussion
about
how
much
of
it
there
is,
and
you'll
remember
from
the
chart.
I
was
showing
last
night
that
for
each
of
those
corridors,
it's
a
very,
very
small
percentage
of
the
Lots
within
each
of
those
neighborhoods
that
get
rezoned
from
the
R1
to
the
R2
I'm.
We're
talking
a
few
percentages.
F
And
how
many
potential
lots
are
we,
speaking
of
which
would
translate
to
dwelling
units
so
you'll
remember
from
last
night
it's
257
total
Acres
across
the
whole
city
that
would
get
rezoned
from
R1
to
R2,
257
Acres
the
lot
size
and
the
R2
is
a
minimum
of
2500
square
feet.
F
So
this
is
a
you
know,
and
we
talked
about
this
last
night.
It's
very
speculative
because
we
haven't
gone
in
and
actually
done,
a
subdivision
plan
for
those
properties.
So
it's
it
just
to
remind
her.
It's
speculative
I!
Wouldn't
hang
your
hat
completely
on
this,
but
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
scale.
If
that
was
that
entire
100
of
that
area,
257
Acres
was
subdivided
to
2500
square
foot,
lots
that
would
get
you
right
at
about
4
400
Lots.
F
I
also
mentioned
that
we
know
from
analysis
of
transit
systems
and
cities
and
development
that,
in
order
to
make
high
frequency
bus
service
work,
well
whether
it's
high
servancy,
a
high
high
frequency
service
of
a
bus
service,
like
you
have
today
or
even
into
brt,
which
we're
proposing
on
State
Street,
you
need
20
to
25
units
per
acre
and
that's
been
proven.
What
we
find
if
you
take
that
257
Acres,
you
transfer
that
to
the
R2
we're
at
about
17
units
per
acre,
so
we're
not
quite
there.
F
This
is
one
of
those
things
you
might
say
we
might
keep
monitoring,
but
but
that's
just
a
comparison
again.
We
want
things
where
we
were
as
helpful
and
needed,
and
this
was
an
important
aspect
of
that.
The
second
thing
I'll
speak
on
and
then
I'll
finish
and
we
can
get
to.
The
public
comment
is
just
because
we
had
so
much
discussion
last
night
about
the
code
relative
to
maybe
coming
back
in
a
year
and
and
monitoring
how
we're
doing
after
12
months
with
this
new
code
and
I
want
to
speak
to
that.
F
Just
to
say
that-
and
I
mentioned
this
when
we
started
this
and
I
presented
on
Monday
evening,
but
just
for
those,
maybe
that
didn't
hear
I
had
this
in
a
slide
that
I
presented
on
Monday.
But
but
we
are,
we
are
wholeheartedly
recommending
this
ordinance.
You
know
it's
we're,
recommending
it
without
hesitation
the
the
the
goal
with
this
ordinance
through
this
long
public
process
over
three
years.
You
could
argue
it
was
longer,
if
you
add
blueprint
Boise,
but
certainly
just
during
the
ordinance
production
process.
F
This
long
public
process,
the
the
goal
was
to
get
to
an
ideal
condition,
and
we
think
the
structure
of
this
is
ideal
as
a
result
of
the
public
input
and
ideas
that
came
from
that
process,
we
think
we're
in
a
very,
very
good
place
as
a
city
and
a
couple
things
about
that,
the
structure
being
what
we
think
it
needs
to
be.
So,
with
regard
to
neighborhoods,
we
kept
all
the
R1
districts.
F
There
was
a
debate
about
that
in
the
process
a
year
or
so
ago
we
were
talking
about
consolidating
the
R1
districts
into
fewer
of
them,
so
everyone
would
have
smaller
lot
sizes.
We
didn't
go
in
that
direction
and
we
think
that's
the
right
decision
for
this
city.
Let's,
let's
respect
the
different
neighborhoods,
we
have
the
neighborhood
structure
we
think
is
right.
We
also
found
multiple
ways
to
within
neighborhoods
enable
A
diversity
of
housing
types
that
are
appropriate
within
a
neighborhood
taking
again
old
neighborhoods
in
Boise
as
a
as
a
clue.
F
How
do
you
allow
duplexes
or
a
four
unit
building
or
a
small
apartment,
building
or
Courtyard
Cottages,
or
you
know,
an
apartment
over
the
garage
or
a
small
apartment
in
your
backyard
or
these
kinds
of
things,
and
we
found
multiple
ways
to
within
that
structure
of
neighborhoods.
Permit
that
to
happen
that
we
think
that's
ideal.
That's
the
right
way
to
go
with
the
mixed
use.
Districts.
The
downtown
district
ended
up
being
what
it
needs
to
be.
We
think,
and
we
extended
that
to
places
that
are
important
like
the
shoreline.
The
MX-5
is
very
important.
F
The
mx-3
is
in
the
right
places.
It's
on
those
high
frequency
bus
lines,
it's
in
those
activity,
centers
identified
in
Blueprint
Boise.
This
isn't
a
compromise
or
you
know
we're
we're
not
you
know
just
okay
with
it.
We
think
that's
what
we
need
as
a
city,
the
structure
is
Right.
Mx3
is
in
the
right
location,
the
R2
aspect
of
that
along
the
MX3.
F
We
have
the
M1
District,
which
is
people
talk,
so
much
about
trying
to
have
smaller
scale,
non-residential
in
neighborhoods,
take
the
Hyde,
Park
or
what's
happening
on
later
places
in
the
city
where
you
can
walk
to
and
things
that
mx1
is
so
important,
plus
the
neighborhood
cafes
that
we
added
to
this
so
even
beyond
the
mx1,
just
an
individual
kind
of
house-sized
cafe
or
something
in
more
neighborhoods,
which
we
have
some
of
had
more
of
in
the
past.
That's
in
this
ordinance
the
affordability
and
sustainability
incentives
that
we
included.
F
We
like
where
we
ended
in
that
we
think
from
from
this
three-year
public
process.
The
ideas
that
people
gave
us
the
concerns
about
affordability
associated
with
this
variety
of
housing
types
where
we
ended
up
with
incentives,
we
think,
is
perfect.
So
the
the
structure
is
is
right.
We
have
the
ingredients
we
need
within
this
ordinance.
It's
not
a
compromise
or
a
half.
You
know
a
half
measure,
it
is.
The
ordinance
itself
is
what
we
need.
F
What
I'm
speaking
of
when
I
talk
about
monitoring,
ongoing
monitoring
12
months
from
now
coming
back
and
looking
at
is
the
details?
Are
those
affordability,
incentives
working?
If
not,
why
do
we
need
to
calibrate
those
differently
differently?
Not
change
the
structure.
We've
got
the
structure,
but
how
do
we
get
to
ensuring
that
those
incentives
are
creating
affordable
housing?
How
about
the
parking
requirements?
There's
been
so
much
discussion
last
night
we
heard
we
should
require
no
parking,
and
then
we
heard
we
should
need
vast
amounts
more
of
parking.
F
So
where
we
ended
up
I
would
say
is
a
is
a
moderate
proposal
for
changes
in
that
and
reductions.
But
how
is
that
12
months
from
now?
Is
that
working
properly
even
the
process,
part
of
it
we've
talked
about
ensuring
that
people
are
involved
in
making
this
ordinance
successful,
make
the
things
that
we
want
easier
to
build
how's
that
working
are
those
four
types
properly
aligned.
F
Do
we
need
to
move
some
into
different
types,
but
the
structure
is
there,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
as
we
go
into
our
third
night
of
hearings
after
all,
that
discussion
last
night,
about
this
ordinance
and
and
and
and
and
how
we
got
to
this
ordinance
or
over
a
long
period
of
time
with
so
much
public
input
and
I
think
it
does
a
lot
of
service
to
the
people
that
were
involved
in
this
process.
To
say
thank
you,
you
got
it
right
and
not
keep
relitigating
every
aspect
of
it
and
I'll.
F
Tell
you
last
summer,
when
we
got
to
this
new
structure,
there
was
a
lot
of
happiness,
I
have
to
admit
with
how
we
shifted
and
we
got
to
a
place
that
we
think
is
an
ideal
one.
So,
as
we
entered
this
night
of
public
hearings
and
perhaps
we'll
finish
with
hearings
tonight,
we
just
wanted
to
mention
that
go
back
to
what
I
mentioned
on
Monday.
This
is
not,
we
don't
think
a
half
measure.
F
We
think
it's
a
great
direction
for
the
city
and
hope
that,
even
with
all
the
opinions
and
the
ideas
about
details
which
are
terribly
important,
we
know
we'll
have
to
keep
monitoring
those
so
Mr
chair.
Those
were
just
the
two
things
I
wanted
to
mention
as
we
get
started
tonight.
If
there's
anything
else
happy
to
go
into
other
areas.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you!
Tim
appreciate
it
before
we
move
on
a
couple
other
little
housekeeping
items
we
have
Elaine
Clegg
is
here
from
Valley
Regional
Transit
she's
asked
for
a
few
minutes
to
address
the
commission
and
the
public.
So
please
coming
up
Miss
Clegg.
G
Thank
you
it's
great
to
be
here,
it's
interesting
to
be
on
this
side
of
the
podium,
but
we'll.
G
Enjoying
it,
I
have
to
say
thanks
for
letting
me
testify
tonight,
I'm
sorry,
I
couldn't
be
here
on
Monday
I
was
out
of
town,
so
it's
really
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity.
First
say
that
I'm,
not
here
speaking
personally,
although
I
certainly
support
this
new
zoning
code.
What
I'm
here
to
speak
about
tonight
is
Valley
Regional
Transit
and
our
support
of
that
code
as
well.
G
We're
excited
as
an
organization
that
the
code
recognizes
the
really
important
tie
between
transportation
and
land
use
and
that,
if
you
get
the
land
use
right,
there's
a
real
opportunity
for
transit
to
work,
much
better
and
be
more
convenient,
so
just
first
off
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
that
generally
that's
what
we
think
of
this
code,
there's
a
couple
of
specific
things
that
I've,
given
you
all
written
documents.
G
So
you
have
those
before
you
that
we'd
like
to
ask
be
adjusted,
they're
very,
very
small
changes,
but
we
think
it
would
make
it
even
more
Transit
supportive
if
you
make
these
changes
so
in
110103,
the
purpose
in
General's
says
achieve
an
integrated
approach
to
land
use
and
transportation
to
provide
a
safe,
efficient,
Equitable
transportation
system
for
pedestrians,
bicyclists,
Transit
and
vehicles,
and
in
light
of
that
there
are
a
list
of
exceptions
for
public
services,
but
Transit
isn't
listed
specifically
in
those
exceptions,
so
we'd
ask
that
Transit
be
listed.
There
could
be
as.
G
Transit
infrastructure,
but
if
you
think
that
you
need
examples,
you
could
add
such
as
bus
stops
or
ADA
Compliant,
trans
Transit
platforms
and
I've,
given
you
opportunity
for
where
those
might
be
inserted.
If
you're
interested
we're
really
excited
about
the
intensification
of
activities
along
Transit
corridors,
the
code
lists
both
existing
and
potential
and
suggests
that
when
service
is
started,
is
when
the
code
would
begin
asking
for
Transit
supportive.
G
Amenities
on
corridors
and
we're
suggesting
that,
rather
than
wait
for
that
service
to
actually
start
if
the
city
is
amenable
that
you
should
start
asking
for
those
things
when
new
transit
services
in
our
five-year
work
plan
is
anticipated
on
a
corridor
purpose.
For
that
is
that
by
the
time
those
things
are
built
and
the
transit
is
there,
then
we're
not
trying
to
play
catch-up
to
it.
So
more
than
happy
to
work
with
staff
on
what
the
appropriate
language
is
and
where
that
should
go.
But
we
think
it's
important
to
include
that.
G
Sorry
I
already
covered
the
number
three
so
I
skipped
my
skipped
ahead
to
number
three
and
asked
for
the
transit
services
that
are
programmed
at
our
five-year
work
plan
and
then,
finally,
in
the
mx4,
MX-5
and
mxu
zones,
in
addition
to
anticipating
one
Transit
might
become
available,
the
city
also
expects
to
receive
applications
that
will
Reserve
will
receive
reduced
parking
requirements
if
certain
things
are
are
done
and
in
support
of
Transit.
G
We
ask
that
in
those
sections
that
prior
to
submitting
application,
certainly
after
pre-app
but
prior
to
submitting
application
that
the
applicant
be
required
to
come
and
meet
with
VRT
and
understand
before
their
application
goes
in
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
would
need,
so
that
the
application
process
would
just
be
smoother.
That
would
happen
not
only
on
applications
in
those
zones,
but
also
on
the
Capital
Boulevard
overlay
District,
where
specifically
Transit
bus
stops
are
called
out.
G
We
ask
that
any
development
there
come
to
us
before
application,
so
we
can
work
with
them
before
those
applications
go
in.
We
think
again
that
that
would
be
just
a
lot
smoother
process
for
everyone
and
then
finally,
the
city
anticipates
doing
some
Transportation
demand
management
requirements
in
return
for
parking
reductions,
and
we
just
want
to
note
that
there's
a
couple
of
things
about
that
section,
we
think
could
be
stronger.
G
We're
also
concerned
that
the
way
it
reads
today,
it
looks
like
just
a
grab
bag
of
things
that
doesn't
have
any
priority,
and
we
know
from
experience
that
some
things
are
more
effective
than
others
and
transportation
demand,
management
and
suggest,
maybe
not
as
part
of
this
code
or
maybe
as
part
of
this
code,
but
certainly
somewhere,
that
the
city
prioritize
those
Transportation
demand
management
strategies,
so
that
you
know
which
ones
so
that
you
wouldn't
just
accept
all
the
low-hanging
fruit
and
say:
oh
that's
good
enough,
but
you'd
require
at
least
some
of
the
more
difficult
things
that
will
produce
more
results.
G
And
then,
finally,
we
note
that
that
Valley
Regional
Transit,
as
well
as
commuterite,
also
already
offer
Transportation
demand.
Services
VRT
is
looking
right
now
to
expand
ours
and
just
ask
that
the
city
work
with
us
as
they
work
on
this
section
and
how
they
will
implement
it
and
how
they'll
enforce
it
and
hope
to
build
a
partnership
with
both
us
and
commuterride
to
ease
the
burden
on
staff,
frankly
and
I
think
maybe
ultimately
have
better
transportation
demand
services.
G
C
G
Certain
things
again,
it
just
eases
the
burden
on
staff
and
kind
of
broadens
what
the
the
possibilities
might
be,
and
just
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
come
tonight
since
I
couldn't
come
Monday
and
also
by
the
way.
Thank
you,
I
know
from
experience
what
a
commitment
this
is,
especially
in
a
week
like
this,
when
you're
here
every
night.
So
thank
you
for
that
as
well
of.
B
I
Please
melt
yeah
Mr
chairman,
so
it's
a
lot
for
me
to
take
in
on
the
dice
right.
Yeah
and
you
know
it
all
makes
sense
to
me:
I'm
always
hesitant
to
get
involved
in
intergovernmental
coordination
issues
because
a
lot
of
times
there's
stuff.
We
don't
know
about
how
these
different
entities
work
together.
It
all
sounds
reasonable
to
me,
so
I
I
don't
have
any
detailed
questions
other
than
you
know.
My
sense
is
we
direct
staff
before
it
goes
to
council
to
try
and
work
with
VRT
and
incorporate
what
we
can
yeah
yeah.
B
I
I
think
Chris
and
you
might
come
in
at
first
blush.
The
TDM
issues
are
the
most
impactful
and
kind
of
the
most
important
part
of
this
memo
and
how
to
get
those
done
right
and
I
think
what
Elaine
is
suggesting
is
that
VRT
be
involved
early
and
majorly
in
doing
those
TDM
assessments
and
I.
Just
don't
know
enough
about
how
those
worked.
I
mean
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
sounds
good
to
me.
Yeah
great.
J
G
J
49
Parts
no
I'm
just
kidding,
and
it's
also
a
question
I
guess
of
Kim,
but
you
know:
okay,
call!
You,
director,
Clegg,
now
I'm
going
to
call
you
director
clay.
So
we
have
these
three
routes:
the
invest
in
class,
State,
Street,
Vista
and
Fairview,
obviously,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
other
routes,
Broadway
Overland
Franklin
at
least,
and
that
is
Emerald.
There's,
there's
a
ton
more
that
we
know
and
so
I'm
curious,
the
general
train
of
thought
of.
Not
necessarily
you
know
this,
this
sort
of
the
conversion
that's
being
discussed.
J
G
I'll,
take
it
on
First
and
and
allow
Tim
to
back
clean
up.
G
G
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
the
goal
will
be
yet,
but
something
like
you
know,
70
percent
of
the
population
can
get
to
70
percent
of
the
destinations,
and
so
as
we
do
that
work
I
expect
that
we'll
identify
a
network
that
we
may
not
serve
yet
because
we
don't
have
the
funding,
but
we
anticipate
and
plan
to
serve
and
needs
to
be
served
so
that
it
will
be
successful
and
that
having
anticipating
Transit
on
those
corridors
would
make
them
Transit
ready
and
able
to
better
provide
the
service.
G
When
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
do
have
the
funding.
So
that's
why
I'm
suggesting
our
five-year
work
plan,
because
I
anticipate
as
we
develop
that
Network
that
will
be
putting
those
in
the
work
plan.
Having
said
that,
there's
also
some
smaller
routes
and
I,
don't
know
yet
exactly
what's
going
to
happen
to
all
of
those,
but
again
I
anticipate
a
planning
process
that
identifies
better
service
even
on
those
smaller
routes,
in
terms
of
maybe
making
them
neighborhood
circulators
that
run
more
often,
rather
than
running,
all
of
them
downtown.
G
If
we
know
there's
a
good
Network
to
connect
to,
for
instance,
or
at
least
inner
lining
them,
so
that
they
can
get
to
more
destinations
and
and
move
more
frequently,
so
underneath
that
again
I'd
anticipate
that
the
city
would
support
Transit,
ready
kinds
of
strategies
on
those
and
maybe
a
little
lower
intensity
than
than
you
might
see
on
those
bigger
corridors.
But
right
now
I
think
the
call
is
right.
We
have
those
three
corridors
that
we
know
are
going
to
have
frequent
service.
F
We
decided
to
just
stick
with
the
three,
because
that's
where
we
have
the
best
service
now
recognizing
and
even
in
discussions
publicly
last
summer
saying
it
could
be
that
we
extend
that
to
other
places
eventually,
when
and
when
we
feel
like
we've
gotten
the
service
where
it
needs
to
be
in
these
first
three
and
we
can
move
to
other
corridors.
But
I'll
also
mention
that
along
Broadway
and
Overland
we
also
have
activity.
Centers
I
mentioned
Transit
corridors
and
activity
centers.
So
we
have
activity
centers
on
Broadway
and
Overland
with
that
get
MX3
zoning.
F
So
an
example
is
on
Overland
out
in
that
area:
that's
very
commercial,
so
out
kind
of
where
the
84
and
all
that
comes
together.
There's
Activity
Center
there,
which
is
a
great
bus
route,
and
we've
already
got
interest
in
redeveloping
what
our
vast
surface
parking
lots
today
into
places
with
people
and
housing
and
things.
So
so
we
don't
completely
miss
them.
We
get
them
through
those
activity
centers
and
we
felt
like
that
was
the
best
place
to
land
right.
L
Now
Mr
chair,
Mr,
Mooney
yeah,
please
I,
think
I've
got
a
question
for
both
directors
regarding
it
public
space
and
the
roads
in
achd.
One
of
the
big
frustrations
that
we
often
have
is
with
the
traffic
impact
studies
and
how
how
we
digest
that
and
how
the
tis
is
clearly
auto-centric
and
we
haven't
graduated
beyond
that.
So
I'm
curious
as
to
your
thoughts
on.
L
G
Well,
thank
you.
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Mooney
I
would
I
would
start
by
saying
I
I
share
your
frustration
with
traffic
impact
studies.
I
think
they
often
tell
us
the
worst
of
what
might
happen
in
the
future
regarding
cars,
and
they
don't
anticipate
anything
in
terms
of
pedestrians
or
bicyclists
or
Transit
use,
and
they
don't
talk
about
the
trade-offs
that
you
might
achieve
in
car
use
if
you
were
able
to
achieve
more
in
the
others.
G
So
to
the
extent
that
the
traffic
in
Impact
study
industry
has
progressed
enough
to
be
able
to
do
those
kinds
of
studies
that
would
show
those
trade-offs
and
anticipate
other
than
carve
movement,
I
think
it
would
behave
the
city
to
investigate
those
and
and
begin
moving
that
Direction.
G
Having
said
that,
I
don't
know
that
the
industry
is
quite
there
yet,
and
so
I
am
suggesting
that
at
least
today,
if
there
is
a
traffic
impact
study
requested
that
that
at
least
address
transit
in
terms
of
the
infrastructure
that
might
be
needed
and
and
Transportation
demand
management
trade-offs
that
could
be
achieved
or
should
be
achieved
as
part
of
it.
As
a
starting
point.
F
And
commissioner
Mooney
I'll
just
mention
that
we
do
not
require
Transportation
impact
statements.
Presently,
that
is
a
requirement
that
is
comes
through
achd,
but
but
we
do-
and
we
talked
about
this
throughout
this
process-
of
the
zoning
ordinance
in
the
context
of
the
kinds
of
findings
that
we
have
relative
to
development
and
how
important
it
is
for
us
to
shift
from
this
Soul
concentration
on
vehicle,
speed
and
and
vehicle
operation
at
intersections
to
one
that
is
mostly
focused
on
pedestrian
and
non-vehicle
travel,
but
addresses
all
modes
of
transportation.
B
You
do
okay,
all
right
before
we
get
back
into
testimony.
Commissioner
Gillespie
did
us
all
a
favor
and
put
a
few
thoughts
Down
based
on
the
testimony
we
received
last
night
so
melt.
Would
you
like
to
share
some
of
your
your
thoughts.
I
So
late
last
night-
and
this
morning,
I
went
through
my
nine
pages
of
notes.
I
I
think
there's
90
people
who
testified
and
I
tried
to
synthesize
it
down
to
a
short
list,
and
then
I
tried
to
sort
the
list
of
issues
by
importance
and
impact,
and
how
often
we
heard
it
it's
just
a
way
that
I'm
organizing
my
thoughts
and
questions
and
to
sort
of
make
sure
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
either
in
Q
a
on
the
record
or
in
our
deliberations
or
in
our
recommendations
that
we
get.
We
address
all
the
things
that
we
heard.
All
these
good
folks
talk
about.
I
So
I
was
just
going
to
pass
my
list
out
and
read
it
into
the
record,
so
that
everybody's
aware
there's
just
one
person
my
way
of
organizing
everything,
so
here's
milt's
list
of
new
zoning
code
issues
in
order
of
importance
and
impact
number
one
r1c
Dimension
changes
lot
size,
Street,
Frontage,
allowed
density,
number,
two
automatic
R2
changes
in
MX
adjacent
parcels
along
State
Vista
in
Fairview
number,
three
parking,
minimum
reductions,
number
four
multi-unit
and
ADA
rules
for
the
r
zones.
I
It
number
11
fence
requirements
for
wooy,
Parcels,
abutting,
open
space,
number,
12,
5G
and
wireless
tower,
citing
criteria,
number
13,
the
procedure
and
timing
of
this
process
for
adopting
this
new
zoning
code.
Number
14
electronic
sign
dwell
time,
20
versus
8
seconds
and
I
just
added
a
15th
one
and
I
haven't
sorted
it
by
importance.
It's
just
15
because
I
just
heard
it,
which
is
dealing
with
the
VRT
memo
dated
April,
20
2023,
just
a
way
to
organize.
B
All
right
milk
great!
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
Okay.
So
just
a
little
couple
reminders
to
to
all
to
you
all
here
in
the
audience
tonight.
B
So
on
Monday
night
this
this
week
we
heard
from
staff
we
heard
staff
presentation
it
took
about
an
hour
between
their
presentation,
q
a
and
then
we
heard
from
a
handful
of
the
neighborhood
associations.
So
every
neighborhood
association
was
contacted
within
the
city.
We
heard
from
I
think
about
a
dozen
on
Monday
night.
Maybe
13.
is
that
right.
B
So
that's
what
happened
on
Monday
and
then
last
night
we
did
a
quick
q,
a
with
staff
to
type
a
few
ends
from
Monday,
and
then
we
spent
the
bulk
of
last
night
in
public
testimony
hearing
from
folks.
Just
like
you
all
so
that's
where
we
are
now
we'll
pick
up
public
testimony
again
right
now
we
have
the
online
sign
up
list,
we're
going
to
run
through
that
top
to
bottom.
B
I
B
B
If
you
testified
last
night,
you
cannot
testify
again.
Okay,
so
I'm
just
gonna
be
very
clear
about
that
up
front
you
all
get
for
those
of
you
that
did
not
testify.
Welcome,
welcome,
you'll
get
three
minutes
when
you
begin
testimony.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
we're
going
to
be
pretty
rigid
with
the
time.
So
we
get
to
three
minutes.
I
have
to
cut
you
off
and
that's
my
least
favorite
part
of
this
job.
So
the
clock
will
be
up
here
to
your
right.
B
It'll
tell
you
where
you're
at
on
your
time.
Please
keep
an
eye
on
that.
If
you
don't
mind
again,
if
you,
if
we
have
any
cheering
clapping
Applause
jeers,
that
sort
of
thing
I've
got
to
shut
it
down.
Okay,
we're
here
to
listen
to
everybody
Pro
in
support
and
against
the
zoning
code
rewrite
we
want
to
get
all
your
thoughts
and
your
comments.
So
let's
keep
it
civil.
Please,
with
that,
we
will
kick
us
off
we're
going
to
start.
B
We
had
a
few
names
from
last
night
that
we
called,
who
did
not
testify,
so
we're
going
to
run
through
that
list.
First
and
then
we'll
start
with
the
fresh
names
after
that,
so
starting
out,
first
Nina
Schaefer,
who
I
believe
is
online,
and
then
we
have
Hillary
Vaughn,
Jason,
White
and
Scott
schoenher.
B
M
M
My
name
is
Nina
Shafer
and
I
live
at
117
South
dot.
Street
I
am
here
to
express
my
strong
support
for
the
modern
zoning
code.
I
was
born
and
raised
in
Boise.
I
am
an
alumni
from
Boise
State
and
I
rent
around
the
Depot
bench.
M
My
family
all
lives
in
in
and
around
Boise
and
and
right
now
my
partner
and
I
are
entering
the
Market
to
buy
our
first
home
and
I
wanted
just
to
share
some
some
insights
that
I've
seen
and
I
know
this
isn't
Absolute
Data
on
the
market,
but
yesterday,
as
we
were,
looking
I
saw
nine
Town
Homes
under
350
000
and
three
houses
under
the
same
price
range
of
those
houses.
M
Two
of
them
had
a
lot
of
repair
that
needed
that
they
were
that
was
needed
and
then
on
that
I
would
also
add
that
in
the
last
three
years,
the
friends
that
I've
had
that
has
purchased
homes
for
the
first
time,
they've
all
been
town
homes.
M
M
It's
so
important
that
future
generations
and
current
young
professionals
can
settle
here
and
continue
to
serve
our
community
and
I
do
believe
that
our
our
future
generations
and
and
Millennials
now
aren't
adverse
to
the
idea
of
multi-family
housing
living
in
duplexes
town
homes
and
are
really
interested
in
any
space
that
can
bring
them
in
within
the
community
and
and,
of
course,
help
them
build
their
life
in
in
our
Boise.
Neighborhoods
I
also
wanted
to
give
kudos
to
the
city
for
their
engagement
process.
M
This
has
been
in
the
works
for
three
years.
As
someone
mentioned
last
night,
it
was
something
that
came
up
with
the
previous,
an
Administration.
M
It
was
in
all
the
emails
that
I
received
from
the
city
over
the
last
few
years
and
I
even
received
physical
information
in
our
trash
bills
on
it,
which
I
thought
was
really
awesome.
M
I've
seen
a
lot
of
news
over
the
years
of
other
cities
across
North
America,
updating
their
zoning
code
in
similar
ways
and
a
lot
of
them
have
passed
them
through
a
simple
hearing
process.
Maybe
two
or
three
meetings
easily
within
a
year
and
I
really
think
it's
important
to
call
out
how
hard
the
planning
team
has
worked
to
provide
as
many
opportunities
as
they
could.
M
Anyone
in
community
engagement
knows
it's
really
hard
to
get
everyone
and
I
think
that
effort
was
really
obvious
and
I
was
really
I,
really
appreciate
the
the
staff
for
putting
in
all
that
work
to
end
I,
just
wanted
to
say.
I
was
tuning
in
last
night
after
I
was
a
little
late
to
my
slot,
but
I
think
it's
really
exciting
to
see
the
younger
folks
expressing
their
support
for
for
the
modern
zoning
code
rewrite
it's
not
the
typical
crowd
that
we
often
see
it.
M
Public
hearings
and
I
think
it's
exciting
to
see
that
this
is
something
that
is
exciting,
our
next
generation
and
current
young
professionals
to
to
get
out
there
and
and
support
the
modern
zoning
code.
Thank
you
so
much.
B
Thank
you.
Okay,
Hillary
Vaughn,.
N
I
am
a
volunteer.
I've
not
been
paid
a
nickel
for
the
work,
I've
done,
hundreds
of
hours
on
r1c,
Zone
and
I'm,
bringing
you
what
I
designed
this
morning.
I've
started
a
project
on
my
property
on
201
East,
Louisa
Street,
it
is
a
town
home
I
can
legally
split.
My
lot
into
two
I
can
demo
my
house
because
I'm
an
incentive,
one
I,
have
no
demo
limitation
in
incentive.
N
So
when
the
55
far
was
taken
off
in
the
last
draft,
it
doubled
my
size
that
I
could
put
on
my
property.
Okay,
when
you
took
the
height
transition
off,
you
basically
doubled
my
ability
to
double
the
size
of
my
building.
N
I
want
to
let
you
know
that
today,
I
can
do
a
duplex
with
an
Adu
on
my
property.
I
can
do
a
Triplex
with
a
conditional
use.
Permit
so
I'm
asking
you:
what
are
we,
what
am
I
getting?
What
are
we
gaining
okay,
we
didn't
go
in
and
there's
been
no
science.
The
only
person
that
I
know
of
that's
been
illustrating.
This
thing
is
myself
I'm,
going
to
give
shout
out
to
the
city
staff
with
limited
time
and
limited
resources
to
be
able
to
put
something
like
this
together.
N
You're
good,
my
credentials
are
I
graduated
1984
from
Cal
Poly
San
Luis
Obispo,
magna
loud
licensed
in
California
in
1987.,
moved
to
Idaho
licensed
in
Idaho
in
1996..
N
What
are
we
gaining
taller
larger,
more
expensive
units
now,
once
again,
my
bandwidth
is
the
r1c
Zone
okay
and
this
100
hours
I
still
have
questions.
I
still
have
confusion.
I've
been
reviewing
these
things
for
almost
40
years:
okay
and
I.
Don't
blame
staff
so
I
stand
here
in
front
of
you.
Humbled
confused,
but
not
defeated.
N
N
B
Thank
you,
Ethan
Mansfield
Jay,
razgar,
Shack,
Jana,
Wickham,
Benjamin,
Donovan,
chivitz,.
P
P
Q
Nice
guy,
thank
you.
Brian
huffaker,
CEO
of
Hawkins
companies,
855
West,
Broad
Street.
Here
in
Boise,
Hawkins
companies
has
been
over
45
years,
developing
commercial
properties,
developing
13
million
square
feet
in
actively
managing
4
million
square
feet
across
28
different
states.
Q
We
oppose
any
of
the
reduction
or
limitation
on
the
parking
standards.
The
discussion
Monday
night
about
WinCo
having
a
fair
amount
of
unused
parking
is
a
little
short-sighted
and
it's
not
WinCo
itself.
It's
really
any
retail
business
pick
any
business.
Their
parking
must
accommodate
the
peak
demands
of
their
customers
during
their
Peak
periods,
whether
that's
evenings
weekends
or
the
the
Make
It
or
Break
It
season
of
the
holiday
season.
Q
We
oppose
the
requirements
for
drive-through
facilities
to
be
located
in
an
enclosed
driving
in
in
an
enclosed
space
that
does
drive
up
the
cost,
of
course,
to
the
business
and
to
the
customers,
but
to
what
purpose.
We
Believe,
alternative
screening
methods
can
be
used
to
achieve
the
same.
Aesthetic
result
at
a
much
more
reasonable
method.
Q
In
closing,
it
feels
as
though
the
code
is
trying
to
force
people
out
of
cars
and
under
the
premise
that
everyone
will
walk
to
their
destinations.
That
is
not
the
reality
of
nearly
all
residents,
nor
will
it
ever
be
the
majority
of
all
residents
these
standards.
Our
goal
is
to
ensure
that
the
businesses
of
the
community
can
be
successful
in
providing
goods
and
services
to
their
customers,
hire
employees
and
contribute
to
the
to
the
tax
base.
Q
Q
R
I
Mr
huffaker,
so
I
I'm
a
little
bit
confused.
So
let's
just
walk
through
hypothetical,
so
you
want
to
build
a
commercial
building
and
you're
concerned
that
you
can't
put
enough
parking
into
the
project
because
there's
no
minimums
the
minimums
are
just.
You
can
always
put
more
if
you
want
up
to
the
maximum.
Are
you
so.
Q
I
It
says
you
can
have
a
zero
parking
apartment
building,
it
doesn't
say
You
must
you
can
put
as
much
parking
on
it's
a
free
market
for
partner
you
get
to
choose
how
much
parking
you
want
to
sell
with
your
building.
Minimums
and
maximums
are
just
constraints
on
your
free
choice
and
so
I'm,
not
quite
sure
sure
chairman.
Q
Commission,
why
you
want
them
yeah
I
would
I
would
agree
that
you
are
correct
and
that
the
minimums
probably
don't
matter
as
as
much
right.
That's
what
what
the
demand
will
be
if
a
business
wants
to
use
street
parking,
so
be
it.
So
the
concern
is
more
on
the
the
maximum
side.
Some
of
those
reductions,
a
small
restaurant
that
can
only
have
a
maximum
of
two
parking
spaces,
might
not
even
cover
the
employee
parking.
It's
it's
that
that
I
was
more
referring
to
okay,.
B
T
Hey,
thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
Dave
Morris
and
I
have
lived
and
worked
in
the
Treasure
Valley
for
10
years,
eight
of
those
in
in
Boise's
North
End.
My
family
and
I
moved
from
Michigan
10
years
ago,
we're
not
Wealthy
by
any
means,
but
we
are
a
dual
income
family.
My
wife
works
in
healthcare.
I.T
I've
spent
most
of
my
career
in
non-profit
work.
Were
we
not
a
dual
income
family?
T
There
is
no
way
we
would
be
able
to
afford
to
live
just
about
anywhere
in
the
city
any
longer
and
certainly
not
where
we
do
now
and
in
fact,
as
attractive
as
living
in
Boise
would
would
be.
You
know,
as
part
of
the
calculus
housing
costs
would
have,
would
prohibit
us
from
from
deciding
to
move
here.
T
I
I
guess.
I
should
also
say
that,
where
my
wife
works
is
she
works
for
one
of
the
large
hospitals
in
the
area.
You
know,
affordability
and
and
available.
Housing
is
one
of
the
key
obstacles
barriers
to
to
their
their
recruitment
efforts,
but
we're
fine.
My
family
and
I
are
fine,
and,
and
what
concerns
me
is
the
growing
number
of
people
who
are
no
longer
able
to
afford
to
live
in
this
city.
T
I've
been
an
organizational
leader
for
quite
a
long
time,
at
times
responsible
for
very
large
staff
teams
and
during
the
past
five
years,
especially
I
lost
good
people
who
could
no
longer
afford
to
live
anywhere
near
their
workplace.
T
You
know
my
son
graduates
from
college
in
a
few
weeks
with
a
technical
degree
that
makes
him
very
employable
and
he
would
love
to
return
to
Boise,
but
he's
already
determined
that
it's
not
feasible
for
him
to
do
so,
and
I
I
see
that
the
proposed
code
rewrite
will
allow
for
greater
density
in
a
market.
T
That's
desperately
lacking
housing
stock
it'll
provide
measurable
income-based,
affordability,
requirements
and
I
want
to
live
in
a
community,
that's
accessible
to
more
than
just
those
who
were
fortunate
enough
to
be
here
already
or
wealthy
enough
to
afford
one
of
the
increasingly
limited
number
of
homes
in
the
city.
So
I
wholeheartedly
support
the
code.
Rewrite
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
this
platform.
B
U
B
U
Having
me,
my
name
is
Beth
Norton
I
live
at
617,
South,
13th,
Street
and
I'm
here
to
testify
in
support
of
this
zoning
code,
update
just
as
a
warning.
I
am
a
comedian,
so
I'm
not
gonna,
be
able
to
offer
any
real
technical
input
here,
but
I
also
I
produce
shows
so
I
generate
income
for
local
venues
and
I,
create
opportunities
for
Performing
Arts
and
contribute
to
the
culture
scene.
U
I,
say
all
this
just
to
just
to
paint
the
picture
of
all
of
the
things
that
I
contribute
to
Idaho
and
to
my
city
and
I
work
really
hard
at
and
none
of
which
pay
very
well
or
sometimes
at
all,
and
the
only
reason
why
I've
been
able
to
stay
in
Boise
and
weather
the
pandemic
and
this
housing
boom
is
because
four
years
ago,
I
lucked
into
an
affordable
rental.
U
I
lived
in
a
mixed
zoning
area.
Right
now
and
I
feel
like
it's
important
to
just
speak.
For
myself
and
my
neighbors,
in
light
of
a
lot
of
testimony,
that's
gone
on
and
a
lot
of
bias
that
I
hear
about
myself
and
the
people
that
I
live
around
I
live
in
a
four-story
apartment,
building,
it's
surrounded
by
businesses,
senior
apartments
and
single-family
homes,
there's
a
homeless
shelter
in
my
neighborhood
and
a
street
that
has
become
a
temporary
home
for
people
living
in
motorhomes
and
trailers
and
their
cars.
U
I
know
this
might
terrify
some
people
here
and
that
this
is
their
worst
case
scenario
and
what
they're
afraid
of.
But
this
might
surprise
you
to
hear
it's
actually
just
fine.
We
all
live
and
we
let
each
other
live,
and
the
only
thing
that
I
really
find
in
my
neighborhood
that
is
truly
atrocious-
is
the
giant
blacktop
parking
lot
that
is
used
only
once
per
week
for
the
Boise
farmers
market
and
contributes
to
the
amplification
of
sound
off
15th
and
16th
streets
and
the
highway.
U
My
neighbors
are
mostly
elderly
people
on
fixed
incomes,
many
have
physical
limitations
and
they
nearly
all
have
at
least
one
small
dog.
We
are
like
any
other
neighborhood.
We
admire
each
other's
cats
through
our
windows.
We
say
hello
in
passing
and
we
even
have
a
bench
in
our
mailbox
area
where
we
put
things
that
we
don't
need
or
want.
I
have
enough
yarn
to
knit
sweaters
for
a
year.
U
Should
I
learn
how
I
a
little
minimum
interest
of
time
skip
through
some
of
this
stuff
when
somebody
looks
unwell
or
they
need
help,
we
help
each
other
I
once
helped.
My
distraught
neighbor
find
his
wallet.
It
was
in
his
jacket
pocket.
U
Sometimes
people
squabble
over
picking
up
dog
poop,
but
generally
we're
pretty
good
and
never
in
fact,
once
have
I
stepped
in
dog.
Do
in
my
mixed
zoning,
affordable
housing,
heavy
neighborhood,
not
everybody
wants
to
live
sequestered
off
from
their
neighbors.
Some
of
us
want
to
live
in
community
with
other
people.
Some
of
us
need
that
and
we
need
that
choice.
U
So
I
would
argue
that
this
zoning
code
provides
the
opportunity
for
people
who
are
actively
seeking
that
kind
of
living
and
for
people
who
who
need
it
not
just
in
in
an
affordability
way,
but
in
a
mental
health
way.
For
those
who
say
that
this
might
change
the
character
of
their
neighborhoods,
I
would
say
good.
It
sounds
like
they
need
it.
Thank
you.
B
V
B
W
Hi,
my
name
is
Christina
Bruce,
bennion
and
I'm
a
long
time
resident
resident
of
a
Treasure
Valley
and
currently
the
executive
director
at
the
wasma
center
for
human
rights,
and
my
address
is
5608
North
Cattail
way
and
just
would
like
to
thank
everyone.
Who's
been
putting
so
much
work
and
thought
into
this,
and
I
am
just
yeah.
So
thank
you
for
taking
time
to
give
us
all
an
opportunity
to
speak.
W
The
work
that
we
do
at
the
Wasserman
Center
is
really
focused
on
human
rights
education.
However,
the
ultimate
goal
of
our
work
is
to
Foster
communities
that
are
committed
to
creating
a
sense
of
belonging
for
all
residents.
Housing
access
and
choice
are
fundamental
to
feeling
like
you
belong
somewhere
and
are
really
critical
elements
in
the
health
and
well-being
of
an
individual
or
a
family.
W
However,
many
housing
zoning
policies
have
historically
worked
against,
creating
belonging
belonging
by
intentionally
creating
separation
and
what
we
call
other
rings,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
creating
distance
and
and
sort
of
identifying
others.
We
may
not
want,
in
our
neighborhood,
through
practices
like
redlining
and
exclusionary
language
and
housing,
Deeds,
that
we
are
still
working
to
rectify
decades
later
here
in
Boise,
for
example,
in
the
past,
the
River
District
was
created
through
redlining
and
then
eventually
largely
demolished
to
make
way
for
commercial
and
other
development,
a
double
whammy
for
families
living
in
that
area.
W
The
long-term
consequences
of
denying
people
access
to
stable
housing
options
can
be
generational
in
terms
of
wealth,
equity
and
belonging.
Even
though
we
now
have
many
legal
protections
against
overt
discrimination
in
housing,
we
still
see
efforts
to
exclude
people
from
housing
and
neighborhoods,
whether
they
are
new
Americans
families
with
children,
seniors,
lgbtq,
unhoused,
low
income
or
others.
These
efforts
can,
intentionally
or
unintentionally,
be
supported
by
zoning
codes,
so
we
need
codes
that
are
more
inclusive
and
aim
to
increase
housing
options
for
a
wider
swath
of
residents.
W
W
Think
Boise
is
at
this
kind
of
inflection
point
right
now,
so
I
just
basically
want
to
express
my
support
and
I
think
that
this
new
zoning
code
or
the
proposed
zoning
code
could
go
a
long
ways
to
mitigating
some
of
the
policies
and
practices
of
the
past
that
have
led
to
neighborhoods
and
and
parts
of
the
city
that
you
know
are
separated
from
others.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
good
luck
with
the
rest
of
the
process.
X
Hello,
chairman
and
committee
I
actually
am
against
this
and
I
live
in
3718
North,
Pepperwood,
Drive,
I'm,
a
home
owner
and
I've
been
here
all
my
life
and
I.
Don't
live
in
an
apartment,
I.
H
X
Home
and
I
really
enjoy
my
neighborhood
we're
spread
apart
and
I
get
along
with
my
neighbors
and
I.
Don't
have
to
be
in
an
apartment
building,
but
first
I
am
currently
not
represented
and
I
actually
agree
with
a
lot
of
the
people
that
are
against
this.
So
I
don't
want
to
rehash
that,
but
I
am
currently
not
represented
in
my
district
2
area.
Now,
as
a
city,
councilman
has
been
appointed,
one
of
which
I
did
not
vote
for.
Second,
there
is
a
mayoral
and
City
Council
election
that
will
be
this
November.
X
Third
I
I
actually
had
a
pretty
thought
out
and
I
did
a
submission
before
it
was.
Was
it
March,
20th
or
whatever,
and
I
was
going
to
say
that,
but
I
watched
the
meeting
on
Monday
on
the
zoom
one
of
the
Commissioners
talked
about
the
word
upzone.
He
described
how
the
word
used
to
mean
where
he
described
how
the
word
used
to
mean
where
you
went
from
one
zone
to
the
next
and
through
the
years
the
word
of
Zone
has
been
spliced
and
has
lost
its
meaning.
X
X
The
origins
of
gaslighting
is
from
an
old
movie.
It
is
a
subjective
experience
of
having
one's
reality
repeatedly
questioned
by
another
upzone
code,
monitor
modernization,
Boise
blueprint
code
next.
Why
would
someone
accuse
an
entire
group
that
may
disagree
with
this
as
gaslighters
high
density
is
high
density?
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you.
B
Okay,
Wendy
Matson,.
Y
I
live
at
302,
North,
Garden
Street,
here
in
Boise
on
the
bench
a
long
time
been
here
since
87
well,
74,
most
of
my
life
I
am
against
this
I
would
like
a
delay
for
the
vote.
Y
I
believe
it's
on
under
undemocratic
process
that
allows
current
city
council
to
vote
and
three
districts
aren't
represented,
and
that's
one
of
mine
and
two
members
were
appointed
by
the
mayor.
That
seems
undemocratic
to
me.
Also,
this
would
displace
seniors
long-term
residents
and
low-income
people
like
me,
and
my
home
is
my
life.
It's
my
Sacred,
Space
and
also
increasing
density
is
denuding
the
city
of
Boise,
the
city
of
trees,
of
our
trees
and
Open
Spaces
I'm,
really
against
it.
Because
of
that,
thank
you
very
much.
B
C
B
Okay,
all
right
Bruce,
massdorovich
and
then
Sheldon
Rodriguez
and
Chris
Runyan.
AA
Hi,
my
name
is
Bruce
musorovich
I
live
at
450,
West
Grove
Street
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
some
of
the
like
what
we
just
heard
with
the
sort
of
delay.
Conversation
I,
think
it's
not
exactly
representing
the
situation
when
we
say
that
people
didn't
get
to
vote
on
this.
We
heard
from
Elaine
Clegg
a
minute
ago,
who
was
one
of
the
council
members
who
was
replaced
that
she
was
in
support
of
the
code.
AA
So
if
the
new
council
member
has
a
similar
position,
that
is
representing
that
District
and
I
just
think
kind
of
this
delay
tactic,
we've
seen
a
lot
kind
of
across
the
country.
The
last
few
years
we
saw
2016
Barack
Obama
was
supposed
to
be
able
to
appoint
a
Supreme
Court
Justice,
and
we
got
told
that
he
was
a
lame
duck
and
we
had
to
wait
a
year.
I,
don't
think
that
really
went
very
well.
AA
The
other
thing
I
want
to
Circle
back
to
is
Transit
and
kind
of
traffic
traffic.
More
so
I
think
increasing
density
in
town
is
a
good
idea
and
I
think
it's
not
going
to
have
the
same
impact
on
our
most
critical
traffic,
which
is
Rush
Hour
that
we
do
see
already
kind
of
coming
from
the
surrounding
towns.
Those
people
if
they
live
in
Boise
they're,
not
going
to
drive
as
far
so
they're,
not
contributing
as
much
on
that
level
and
they're,
not
all
heading
west.
In
the
morning,
they're,
not
all
heading
east.
AA
AB
AB
Is
520
my
office
is
at
520
West,
Idaho
and
I
have
the
privilege
and
to
live
over
in
the
East
End,
which
I
feel
really
fortunate
to
be
able
to
do,
and
I
certainly
would
not
be
able
to
do
that
today,
if
I,
if
I
move
to
Boise
and
my
family
wouldn't,
but
with
that
said
I
just
very
quickly,
I
was
on
the
citizens
advisory
committee,
so
I
did
quick,
math
and
you've
heard
from
a
lot
of
us.
You
know
over
a
hundred
hours
in
meetings,
not
to
mention
the
studying
up.
AB
That
I
know
we've
all
done
so.
This
has
been
really
a
thoughtful
process
and
there
was
30
of
us.
We
took
public
comment
that
they
were
all
on:
Zoom
I
can
commend
staff
to
the
utmost
degree
and
how
much
they
took
from
me
both
by
way
of
comments
in
that
in
those
settings
by
way
of
emails
and
just
general
discussion.
So
this
doesn't.
This
doesn't
come
from
nowhere
right.
This
comes
from
a
place
of
very
a
lot
of
thought.
AB
A
lot
of
drafts,
a
lot
of
revisions,
so
I
just
want
to
set
that
stage
for
a
minute.
I
will
also
say
that
I'm
absolutely
in
support
of
your
approval
and
moving
this
forward,
and
hopefully
city
council
would
approve
the
Zone
the
new
zoning
code,
but
as
an
affordable,
housing,
developer
and
consultant.
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
this
is
not
perfect.
The
zoning
code
is
not
perfect
and
I,
don't
believe.
AB
AB
If,
if
you
were
to
choose
to
make
some
revisions,
I
made
a
couple
things
or
I
listed
a
couple
things
that
you
could
consider,
but
for
the
purpose
of
of
my
testimony
now,
I
just
want
to
point
out
when
I
hear
about
how
the
structure
of
the
code
is
thought
out
is
well
thought
out,
I,
Concur
and
how
we
need
to
revisit
it
at
certain
times.
I
concur,
but
I
want
to
point
out
that
this
is
hard,
and
this
is
zoning
is
not
a
silver
bullet
to
creating
affordable
housing
in
our
community.
AB
It
is
certainly
an
important
factor
and
it
must
get
out
of
the
way
of
developers
to
create
affordability,
but
it
won't
do
it
alone,
so
in
in
month
12
and
there's
not
a
bunch
of
affordable
housing,
it
doesn't
mean
that
people
aren't
thinking
about
it
and
considering
it
and
I
want
to
just
a
quick
perspective.
The
housing
bonus
ordinance,
which
was
one
of
the
largest
incentives
that
I
think
the
city
of
Boise,
has
done
in
quite
some
time
to
create
affordability,
I
believe
in
the
staff
can
certainly
correct.
AB
Me
was
put
into
place
in
early
2020.
I
was
part
of
a
team
of
developers
who
just
opened
the
first
48
units
that
were
newly
constructed
using
that
housing
bonus
ordinance
here
in
February
of
2023
..
So
three
years
later,
and
we
went
as
fast
as
we
could
go
three
years
later,
it
was
what
it
took
us
to
build,
multi-family,
affordable
housing,
and
that
was
not
using
public
funds
in
a
meaningful
way.
I
should
say
so.
I
just
want
to
put
that
in
perspective
and
I
hope
that
you
can
support
this
code.
AC
B
You,
okay
Chris
Runyan
and
then
Evan
Evan,
Stewart,
Tiffany,
perigo
and
Julianne
Donley
Sewell.
AD
Thank
you,
commission,
commission
members
for
listening
to
my
concerns
about
the
code.
My
name
is
Chris
Runyan
I
live
at
606
Brookdale
Drive
in
the
East
End
I
do
not
support
the
proposed
code
due
to
the
lack
of
details
about
the
impacts
of
lowering
the
minimum
lot
size
in
r1c
zones.
Smaller
minimum
lot
sizes
will
increase
the
number
of
lots
that
can
be
split
into
two.
AD
The
unfortunate
but
obvious
truth
about
this
is
that
for
established
cities
like
Boise,
this
means
already
affordable
homes
and
rentals
will
be
the
first
to
be
demolished
and
trucked
off
to
the
landfill.
Now
on
to
some
specifics,
the
current
minimum
lot
size
is
5
000
square
feet.
An
earlier
draft
was
4
000
and
now
we're
at
3
500.
AD
obvious
question:
why
did
the
city
keep
decreasing
the
lot
size
and
how
will
it
change
the
number
of
existing
lots
that
can
be
split
in
my
neighborhood
of
226
Homes
located
off
Warm
Springs,
the
total
number
of
lots
increases
from
14
to
94.
That's
an
almost
600
percent
increase
in
the
South
End
Neighborhood
of
834
homes.
AD
It
went
from
33
percent
to
95
percent
I've,
looked
at
almost
4
000
Parcels
so
far
using
the
Ada
County
Assessor's
GIS
map
and
these
results
can
be
reasonably
assumed
for
any
r1c
residential
neighborhood
with
lot
sizes,
7,
000
square
feet
or
larger.
If
one
were
to
scale
this
out
across
the
city,
we
are
talking
about
massive
changes
in
the
number
of
lots
that
can
be
split
shouldn't
the
commission
ask
the
city
for
data
on
this
change.
AD
AD
If
this
is
what
the
commission
and
the
average
boycians
are
hearing
from
the
city,
no
wonder
no
one
is
concerned,
like
commissioner
glitzview's
question
on
Monday
about
the
number
of
parcels
up
zoned
along
corridors
I
urge
the
commission
to
ask
the
city
about
the
change
in
the
number
of
lots
that
can
be
split.
If
the
city
can't
answer
this
question,
it
means
they
don't
know
the
outcome
of
what
they're
proposing.
Without
this
information,
the
commission
cannot
make
an
informed
decision
on
how
much
demolition
is
expected
to
take
place.
AD
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
What
I
have
up
there
on
the
screen
is
a
picture
of
my
neighborhood.
It
shows
those
those
red
Lots
on
the
on
the
left.
Those
are
the
lots
and
can
be
split
today,
the
one
on
the
right,
all
those
red
Lots.
Those
will
be
available
to
be
split
when
the
code
passes
and
that
needs
to
be
disclosed
to
Boise
residents.
That
is
not
a
to
remember
this.
This
is
what
director
King
you.
You
considered
this
a
not
a
dramatic
change.
AD
I
would
argue
that
it
is,
and
so
I
just
urge
you
guys
to
really
ask
on
that
data.
I
think
it's
easy
to
get
Mr.
AE
I
AF
I
AD
AG
B
AH
Also,
the
local
rental
market
has
seen
a
40
percent
rent
increase
within
the
last
few
years,
which
is
nearly
double
the
national
average,
with
limited
housing,
Supply
or
affordable,
affordable
options
and
more
and
more
people
struggling
living
paycheck
to
paycheck
who
work
hard
to
pay
their
bills
and
rent
on
time.
My
agency's
volume
of
people
apply
applying
for
housing.
Assistance
has
increased
by
555
percent.
What
we
hear
on
a
daily
basis
from
people
is,
they
can't
afford
their
rent.
AH
They
had
an
unexpected
emergency
in
our
on
the
brink
of
homelessness
or
they
cannot
find
anything
affordable
in
the
area.
Currently
we're
in
the
midst
of
a
housing
crisis
in
the
Treasure
Valley.
Something
needs
to
change.
I
think
this
new
zoning
code
measure
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
I
believe
that
it'll
allow
for
more
diversity
for
housing
options
and
choices,
and
you
know
more
affordable
options
for
people
that
feel
like
they're,
getting
priced
out
of
the
city.
AH
I
hope
that
the
the
commission
does
approve
the
measure,
the
code
as
I
believe
this
is
a
necessary
change
to
help
out
our
community
and
to
continue
to
make
Boise
a
great
and
welcoming
place
for
all
people.
So
thank
you.
AH
B
You,
okay,
Tiffany
Perrigo
and
Julian
Donnelly
to
zul
and
Morgan
de
Carl.
AI
AI
Sorry
I'm
also
pregnant
I,
feel
like
I
ran
up
here,
while
lack
of
affordable
housing
and
housing
in
general
is
not
a
unique
issue
to
Boise.
We
are
seeing
sky
high
prices
for
one
bedroom
rentals
in
Boise,
making
it
nearly
impossible
for
individuals,
let
alone
families
to
have
the
most
basic
human
need
of
housing.
AI
I
myself
can
attest
to
the
need
for
affordable
housing.
My
husband
grew
up
here
in
the
Treasure
Valley
and
most
of
his
family
lives
not
10
minutes
from
where
we
are
right.
Now
we
both
work
and
go
to
school
in
Boise,
but
have
no
choice
but
to
commute
all
the
way
from
Nampa,
as
we
can't
afford
the
housing
prices
here.
My
husband
is
a
disabled
vet
holding
a
pretty
high
disability
rating,
meaning
he
receives
a
monthly
benefit
and,
in
addition,
we
both
have
jobs
with
decent
salaries.
AI
However,
due
to
being
a
family
of
three,
almost
four,
the
cost
of
Child
Care,
Transportation
food
and
other
necessary
bills
related
to
living,
it
would
be
a
burden
for
us
to
move
to.
Boise
I
am
in
full
support
of
the
proposed
motor
modern
zoning
code,
as
it
would
allow
more
options
for
people
who
want
to
live
and
work
in
Boise
Boise
is
built
on
being
a
city
to
warmly
open
its
arms
to
others,
and
this
is
no
different.
By
continuing
to
come
together
to
ensure
families
and
kiddos.
AI
AJ
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
It's
Azul.
The
t
is
silent.
No
worries
I
strongly
support
the
revisions
to
the
zoning
code.
Our
community
really
needs
a
greater
density
of
housing.
Affordability
is
very,
very
hard
to
come
by
and
I'm
going
to
share
an
anecdote
and
then
a
couple
more
comments
and
then
wrap
anecdote.
I
live
at
1809,
South,
Senator
Street
near
Grace,
Jordan,
Elementary,
I've
recently
and
I
owned.
The
home
have
owned
the
home
for
nine
years
now.
I
could
not
afford
the
same
home.
AJ
If
I
were
to
try
and
buy
it
now,
it
would
be
impossible
for
me
to
find
a
home
that
I
would
qualify
for
within
City
Limits
I
want
to
tell
you
a
short
story
of
a
new
neighbor
of
ours.
This
individual
moved
in
a
few
weeks
ago
very
industrious
left
every
morning
came
back
every
evening
was
very
quiet,
kept
to
themselves.
There's
a
single
middle-aged
woman,
maybe
55
years
old,
or
so
she
was
living
in
an
RV
parked
on
our
street.
AJ
I
cannot
believe
that
anyone
would
choose
to
live
in
an
RV
except
out
of
desperation,
because
there
simply
aren't
other,
affordable
places
to
live.
No
one
should
be
forced
to
do
that.
I
also
want
to
share
that
I
think
it's
very
important
to
preserve
the
economic
diversity
of
our
city.
Our
schools
are
better.
Our
children
learn
more
when
they
have
a
variety
of
people.
A
variety
of
Life
Experiences,
woven
into
their
experiences
to
not
be
create.
AJ
Greater
density
is
going
to
push
out
people
who
can't
afford
the
prices
that
are
going
nowhere,
but
up
I
would
also
share
that
I
also
am
a
manager
of
a
local
non-profit
with
over
80
employees.
Most
of
the
employees
report
how
difficult
it
is
to
afford
staying
here
in
Boise.
So
we're
not
talking
just
about
attracting
new
talent
to
our
area,
we're
talking
about
retaining
existing
excellent
talent
that
we
could
lose
because
they
simply
can't
afford
to
stay
Thank.
You
very
much.
AC
B
Z
Z
So
it's
nice
to
be
back
as
a
longtime
Boise
resident
I
have
had
the
opportunity
to
live
in
the
coloster.
The
East
End
Southeast,
Boise
and
Vista
neighborhoods
I
have
only
ever
lived
in
an
apartment.
Duplexes,
a
converted,
300
square
foot
garage
and
townhouses
I
have
watched
Boise,
really
the
entire
Treasure
Valley
grow
dramatically
more.
So,
in
the
last
10
years
we
have
an
opportunity
to
change
how
Boise
grows
through
the
zoning
update
and
while
the
proposed
ordinance
is
not
perfect,
it
is
a
great
start.
Z
We
have
heard
testimony
from
neighborhood
associations
and
members
of
the
public
about
waiting
to
get
it
right.
Well,
folks,
the
reality
is,
it
will
never
be
right
because
someone
or
some
group
is
going
to
fight
whatever
comes
before
you
and
the
council.
In
my
nearly
20
years
of
attending
pnz
commission
meetings
and
City
Council
meetings,
I
can't
think
of
a
meeting
I
have
been
to
where
a
development
was
supported
by
all
neighbors
and
commissioner
Gillespie
you've
been
here
a
long
time.
I
don't
know
if
you
can.
Z
The
time
is
now
to
move
forward
with
this
update.
I
support
the
proposed
draft,
with
the
exception
of
a
proposed
of
the
proposed
r1a
property
properties,
north
of
State
Street
between
Sycamore
and
39th
Street.
That's
part
of
the
collister
neighborhood,
also
known
as
the
Sycamore
overlay.
There
are
two
additional
properties
to
the
north
of
Catalpa
that
are
zoned
in
that
manner.
The
original
version
of
the
zoning
update
reflected
a
change
to
the
current
Zone
in
that
area.
It
it
went
up
one.
Z
The
residents
in
the
area
expressed
their
opposition
to
the
zoning
change,
so
it
was
left
as
low
density
in
the
proposed
code
before
you.
I
have
concerns
with
this
approach
for
the
following
reason
and
I
had
other
concerns,
but
you
guys
have
probably
read
them
because
I
submitted
additional
comments.
If
you
look
at
the
conversion
map,
the
city
is
proposing
mx4
at
the
collister
shopping
center
area.
Z
Mx4
is
one
of
the
highest
densities
and
if
you
know
anything
about
Transit
oriented
development,
you
have
high
density
and
then
your
density
as
it
moves
out
kind
of
as
a
gradual,
a
little
lower.
It
lowers
from
high
to
eventually
low
density,
and
what
we
have
here
is
mx4
and
within
a
1
8
of
a
mile
or
about
1
8
of
a
mile.
You
have
the
lowest
density
residential
density
available
in
the
city.
It
doesn't
make
sense
and
I
have
expressed
my
concern
with
that
to
the
director
director
Keane.
Z
The
changes
in
zoning
should
be
applied
across
the
city.
The
city
evenly
the
city
shouldn't
be
exempting
specific
Parcels
of
neighborhoods
I'm,
sorry,
specific
Parcels
or
neighborhoods
from
zoning,
and
one
last
thing
I
was
a
member
of
the
advisory
committee
and
I
heard
some
comments
about.
It
was
a
bunch
of
developers,
sorry
I'm,
not
a
planner
I'm,
not
an
architect,
I'm,
not
a
real
estate
agent
or
a
developer
I'm,
just
a
long
time
resident.
That
cares.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
right
Denise,
Carusi
and
then
Mike
Wood,
Jennifer,
Dempsey
and
Tony
Torres.
D
Denise
Carusi
and
I
live
at
1102,
North,
19th,
chairman
and
Commissioners.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
time
and
the
process
tonight.
I
strongly
support
your
recommendation
on
this
revision
to
Boise
zoning
code.
I,
truly
appreciate
the
many
opportunities
I
had
to
attend.
Community
meetings,
I
might
be
a
little
slow.
Perhaps
I
didn't
need
multiple
meetings.
The
answers
to
my
many
questions
and
the
ongoing
revisions
that
reflect
some
of
my
concerns
because
of
the
time
the
city
has
invested
in
citizen
participation,
I
will
call
it
the
single
most
democratic
process.
D
I've
been
involved
in
in
my
lifetime.
The
code
we're
discussing
should
not
be
politicized
but
based
on
a
vision
for
our
city,
citizen
inputs
and
staff's
research,
best
practice
and
the
Professional
Standards
that
can
best
achieve
them.
Yes,
up,
Zone,
Boise,
stable,
healthy
cities
must
provide
a
variety
of
housing
options
that
meet
the
needs
of
all
our
residents,
including
seniors
artists,
students,
young
professionals,
families
and
those
with
limited
abilities
for
access.
The
diversity
of
people
and
generations
make
us
richer
and
social
interaction
creates
safer,
healthier
and
more
stable
neighborhoods.
D
The
city's
economic
stability
services
and
employment
viability
depend
on
adequate
housing.
On
a
personal
note,
although
I
feel
very
fortunate
to
have
a
comfortable
home,
my
daughter
and
her
family
cannot
afford
to
live
in
Boise.
My
recent
graduate
grandchildren
certainly
cannot
afford
market
price
housing.
Many
of
my
clients
who
are
experienced
professionals
are
also
unable
to
find
affordable
housing.
We
cannot
risk
limiting
our
city
to
people
who
are
already
here
and
comfortable
single-family.
Housing
is,
and
has
always
been
exclusionary
and
limited
to
a
few.
We
must
do
better.
D
My
vision
of
Boise
is
vibrant,
diverse,
active
and
Interactive.
Our
housing
Gap
is
huge
and
does
not
accommodate
the
cross
sector
of
our
community.
Clear
Trends
promises
will
get
even
worse.
The
status
quo
is
not
an
option.
This
change
is
already
long
overdue
and
it
will
take
time
to
make
the
impact
we
so
badly
meet,
I'm
hopeful
for
our
children
and
grandchildren
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
AL
And
I
think
I
think
I'm
up.
My
name
is
Jennifer
Dempsey
and
I
live
at
3120
West
Teton
Street
in
the
Depot
bench
neighborhood,
and
we
ended
up
here
over
a
decade
ago,
kind
of
by
mistake
and
because
of
its
diversity,
demographically
and
otherwise
we
decided
to
stay
I
support
the
zoning
rewrite
because
personally,
I
want
to
see
more
walkable
neighborhoods,
where
the
community
can
not
only
walk
to
work,
but
also
grocery
shop
grab
a
coffee
or
lunch
without
getting
in
a
car.
AL
I
I
moved
from
a
place
where
I
was
commuting
a
large
part
of
my
day
now
in
Boise
I,
walk
or
ride
my
bike
to
work,
I'd
like
to
see
more
bike
lanes
and
pedestrian
areas,
and
and
given
that
activity
I
actually
believe
I'm
a
better
person
as
a
result
of
it,
and
it's
been
a
game
changer
for
me.
AL
I
think
that
the
the
zoning
rewrite
provides
opportunities
for
those
who
wish
to
drive,
as
does
Idaho
in
general
and
I,
think
for
those
who
who
want
to
live
in
that
environment.
That
option
should
be
available
as
well.
I
support
the
zoning
rewrite
because
affordability,
matters,
long-term,
affordable
housing
ensures
a
rich,
diverse
and
inclusive
community
I
am
someone
who
owns
a
single
family
home
and
fortunate
enough
to
have
afforded
it
at
the
time
and
I.
Welcome
this
zoning
code.
Change.
AL
I
I
welcome
the
opportunity
to
embrace
a
more
diverse
community
that
looks
different
for
me.
Real
quickly,
I
grew
up
in
Tempe
Arizona,
which
is
a
suburb
of
Phoenix.
It's
been
a
long
time
since
I've
lived
there.
I
don't
want
to
date
myself,
but
Boise
reminds
me
of
the
Tempe
I
grew
up
in
my
parents
still
lived
there
and
Tempe
has
made
vast
impressive
advances
in
the
availability
of
Light
Rail,
the
availability
of
local
Transit
and
and
wide
wide
bike
Lanes.
AL
I
do
not
think
this
is
a
zoning
change
that
only
is
for
the
benefit
of
the
young
I
do
think
it
will
allow
those
who
are
Elder
and
might
have
difficulty
getting
from
one
place
to
the
next
to
still
enjoy
those
activities
they
like
to
so
I
think
this
is
a
good
first
step
and
I'm
hopeful
that
it
passes.
Thank
you,
foreign.
AM
You
Mr,
commissioner
Commissioners
Boise
planning
staff
and
director
Keane
for
your
hard
work
on
this
I
appreciate
it
and
no
others
do
as
well.
I've
spent
the
last
two
years,
volunteering
and
working
at
Jesse
tree
and
I've
helped
hundreds
of
people
in
Ada
County
apply
for
emergency
rental
assistance
through
the
Boise
City
Ada
County
Housing
Authorities,
emergency
rental
assistance
program.
I've
also
witnessed
hundreds
more
seek
help
through
Jessie
tree
as
well,
but
I
do
want
to
emphasize
I
am
here
speaking
for
myself
and
not
Jesse
tree.
AM
My
experience
has
made
clear
to
me
that
we
have
a
housing
crisis
here.
That
needs
to
be
addressed
and
we
can't
kick
the
can
down
the
road
any
longer
too
many
people
are
unable
to
afford
housing
and
too
many
people
are
at
risk
of
homelessness
or
having
to
move
out
of
the
city
that
we
all
love
and
care
deeply
about.
AM
Affordable
housing
is
a
complicated
and
difficult
not
to
crack
I
mean
you
know
this.
You
deal
with
it
every
day.
We
know
it
works,
but
building
enough
to
meet
the
demand.
Beyond
is
beyond
the
reach
of
local
and
state
governments
alone,
and
only
the
federal
government
really
has
the
resources
and
governments
to
directly
fund
build
it.
The
resources
that
are
available
are
expensive
and
complex
and
confusing,
and
they
do
not
do
enough.
AM
The
next
best
thing
to
do
is
what
this
zoning
code
attempts
to
do.
It's
designed
to
increase
housing
Supply
significantly
over
time
and
use
incentives
and
regulations
to
get
you
get
some
of
that
housing
to
be
affordable.
It's
a
necessary
step
if
we
want
our
children
to
be
able
to
afford
to
live
here.
AM
I
want
to
add
that
if
you
are
a
homeowner
in
a
single
family
home,
this
new
code
does
not
give
anyone
the
power
to
take
your
home
from
you.
If
you
own
your
home,
it
applies
only
to
new
construction
and
non-existing
homes.
Unless
you
choose
to
sell
your
your
property,
so
you
will
not
lose
your
home
unless
you
choose
to
give
it
up
I'm
with
those
who
wish
the
rewrite
was
a
little
bit.
Bolder
I
would
have
liked
to
see
the
elimination
of
parking
minimums.
AM
AN
My
name
is
Michelle
Larson
I
live
at
4658,
North,
zimmery
Place
way
way
out
in
West.
Boise
I
can
throw
a
rock
and
I
hit
Meridian,
not
quite,
but
almost
my
children
had
to
buy
houses
in
Meridian,
because
the
housing
10
years
ago
was
already
a
little
out
of
their
reach.
They
are
all
looking
to
move
and
I'm
looking
to
downsize.
So
we're
really
considering
where
we're
going
to
live.
My
choices
right
now
are
star
Cuna
black.
AN
What's
that
Black
Canyon
that
road
way
out
there
and
I
don't
want
to
move
there.
I
want
to
move
I
want
to
stay
within
the
Boise
city
limits.
My
younger
daughter
works,
downtown
she's.
Looking
for
a
town
home,
she
works
at
a
high-tech
company.
She
wants
to
be
able
to
access
the
green
belt,
use
public
transportation
or
ride
or
bike
to
work
in
the
Summers.
AN
My
other
daughter,
both
her
and
her
husband,
are
Ada
County
Employees
great
benefits
pay,
maybe
not
so
great,
so
they
have
two
children
and
they're
looking
at
also
trying
to
move
from
Meridian
to
Boise
big
challenge
for
us,
but
we're
all
looking
right
now
and
we
all
want
to
stay
here
so
I
work
near
veterans
and
State
Street
I'm,
a
failed
retiree,
I
work
for
free
about
40
hours.
A
week
didn't
plan
on
that
and
in
my
backyard
of
my
office
there
are
two
low-income
houses.
AN
Some
of
you
may
be
familiar
with:
Hollister
United
Methodist
and
the
leap
housing
homes
that
went
in
there
I
know
the
people
that
live
there
because
I
park
in
the
lot
with
them
and
every
day
I
see
the
children
who
now
have
houses
where
they
didn't
have
them
before
and
they
actually
own
the
house.
They
don't
know
the
land.
The
land
is
in
a
land,
trust
for
50
years
or
75,
I
believe
I.
Also
after
seeing
this
and
be
being
part
of
a
Christian
organization,
that's
helping
on
housing.
Here
in
the
valley
and
how's.
AN
Your
neighbor.org
have
chosen
to
invest
a
significant
part
of
my
retirement
in
low-income
housing.
I
now
hold
the
mortgages
for
seven
people
who
are
at
60
percent
of
the
poverty
level,
along
with
leap
Charities
and
through
them
to
help
them
own
houses
and
build
generational
wealth.
It
is
so
cool
my
name's
on
the
wall.
I
just
went
there
just
before
we
got
here,
it's
so
exciting,
but
I'm
so
proud
of
what
you
guys
have
done.
Thank
you
and
I
think
that
you
have
the
right
attitude
and
you're
doing
the
right
thing.
AN
My
daughter
wants
a
town
home.
Please
help
her
buy
one
in
Boise
she's
going
to
live
in
Garden
City
on
36th.
If
we
don't
find
something
really
I
know
really
36th
and
Adams,
but
they're
really
cool
Apartments
Townhomes
down
there.
One
of
them
was
built
by
Bud,
confer
and
neighborhood,
not
neighbors
United,
but
I'm.
Sorry,
but
I
just
forgot
your
neighborhood.
AN
Thank
you.
Neighborworks
I
get
them
all
mixed
up,
so
she's,
looking
at
one
of
his
his
townhouses
there
too.
So
thank
you.
You
simplified
the
code,
you're
incentivizing
low
income
units.
It's
the
right
thing
to
do
as
a
mom,
a
grandmother
and
a
Christian
I.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
Jennifer
Stevens,
Nora,
Carpenter,
Gary
Haynes
Stephanie
day
former
commissioner
Stevens.
It's
nice
to
see
you
it's.
AO
Great
to
see
you
guys,
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
my
name
is
Jennifer
Stevens
I
reside
at
318,
East
Highland
View
Drive
in
Boise.
AO
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
comment
I'm
here
today
as
the
Director
of
the
Boise
Department
of
arts
and
history,
a
nearly
lifelong
boysian,
a
former
member
and
chair
of
the
Boise
historic
preservation
commission
from
2003
to
2008,
and
a
former
member
and
chair
of
the
esteemed
Commission
in
front
of
me
tonight,
I'm
here
to
offer
my
comments
and
my
support
for
the
modern
zoning
code.
AO
As
some
of
you
know,
I'm
a
historian
by
training
specializing
in
the
history
of
cities
and
the
urban
environment.
Since
the
1970s
boiseans
have
worried
about
growth,
it's
evident
in
the
newspapers,
local
histories,
oral
histories
and
many
other
places.
Since
that
time,
a
few
watershed
moments
stand
out
when
Boise's
leaders
made
Brave
and
consequential
decisions,
the
Foothills
plan,
the
river
plan
and
the
historic
preservation
ordinance.
These
three
difficult
and
highly
controversial
decisions
resulted
in
the
Boise.
We
all
love
today.
AO
The
zoning
code-
that's
before
you
this
week
is
another
watershed
moment.
During
my
time
on
the
two
commissions,
I
thought
sat
through
many
hearings
for
projects
that
have
collectively
contributed
to
the
sprawling
development
pattern
that
we
see
today,
the
zoning
code
before
you
will
not
single-handedly
solve
the
housing
crisis
in
front
of
us.
However,
it
is
a
significant
Foundation.
We
must
lay
providing
housing
within
our
existing
City
boundaries,
is
critical
for
helping
to
stop
sprawl,
protect
our
environment
and
create
a
development
pattern
that
offers
housing
choices
for
every
resident.
AO
There
are
many
parts
of
the
code
I
could
point
to,
but
I'm
going
to
address
just
a
couple
of
those
because
well
three
minutes,
oh
goodness.
First,
the
change
of
minimum
minimum
lot
size
to
3
500
square
feet
has
some
people
concerned
about
the
historic
districts.
Many
of
the
existing
lots
that
could
be
subdivided
under
the
news.
Outing
code
could
also
be
subdivided
under
today's
code
as
well.
AO
Due
to
the
underlying
lots
of
record,
we
will
continue
to
have
the
historic
guidelines
and
the
commission
and
the
public
process,
as
we
do
today
under
the
new
code
as
well.
Second,
the
incentives
provided
for
adaptive
reuse
are
an
important
piece
of
the
puzzle,
allowing
owners
to
divide
the
interior
of
an
existing
building
into
multiple
units
without
providing
additional
parking
over
the
years.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
people
complain.
We
don't
have
enough
parking,
but
after
all,
are
we
housing
cars
or
are
we
housing,
people
I
hope
we
err
on
the
side
of
people.
AO
The
creative
class
in
our
economy
is
finding
it
more
and
more
difficult
to
afford
living
here
and
I
expect
them
to
benefit
from
this
part
of
the
proposed
code.
While
results
from
this
part
of
the
code
will
in
fact
take
time.
The
proposal
reflects
Solutions
similar
to
those
that
were
deployed
during
our
last
major
housing
crisis
in
the
1930s
and
1940s.
When
many
such
large
structures
throughout
our
historic
districts
and
elsewhere
were
divided
into
Apartments.
AO
These
structures
continue
today
to
provide
important
housing
choices
and
help
neighborhoods
house
many
different
types
of
people
with
different
income
levels
and
occupations.
Creatives
will
also
benefit
from
the
ability
to
run
a
small
business
from
the
residents
in
the
new
code
and
will
benefit
from
the
set-aside
for
affordable
housing
choices.
That's
built
into
this
code.
AO
C
AO
They
come
I
want
them
to
settle
here
in
Boise,
not
in
the
adjacent
communities.
Building
within
our
existing
footprint,
along
collectors
and
arterials
will
result
in
densities
that
can
support
public
transportation
is
good
for
our
environment,
good
for
giving
choices
to
our
new
residents
and
good
for
the
economy.
So
we
have
the
population
to
support
resident
restaurants,
retail
establishments
and
Professional
Services
that
are
within
our
city
boundaries.
Thank
you.
AP
Evening
and
thank
you,
my
name
is
Nora
Carpenter
1310
Ranch
Road
here
in
Boise
I've
been
a
resident
of
this
city
for
nearly
40
years,
and
I
am
here
this
evening
to
speak
in
support
of
the
modern
zoning
code.
I
support
it
for
a
wide
variety
of
reasons.
Many
have
been
articulated
this
evening,
but
two
for
me
stand
out
it's
family
and
Workforce
friendly
and
it
respects
the
healthy
lifestyle
which
I
appreciate
and
for
which
our
city
is
known.
AP
AP
AP
I
appreciate
that
this
plan
makes
room
for
a
Continuum
of
housing
price
points
we're
better
when
there
are
affordable
homes
for
all
of
our
workers
and
all
of
our
residents,
whether
they
are
just
starting
out
whether
they
are
working.
Two
jobs
are
mature
in
their
career
or,
like
me,
minding
their
pennies
in
our
golden
years.
AP
My
support
at
this
proposal
is
also
grounded
in
data
United
Way's
Alice
data
clearly
states
that
in
Ada
County
and
specifically
in
the
city
of
Boise,
the
budget
appropriate
housing
options
are
the
foundation
of
good
health,
educational
success
and
financial
stability
for
all
of
us.
Alice
data
also
points
out
that
in
Idaho
and
including
Boise
City
far
too
many
of
our
kids
live
in
households.
That
housing
is
just
unaffordable.
AP
In
fact,
in
Ada
County
in
Boise
City
we
have
some
of
the
highest
percentage
of
children
living
in
housing,
price
burdened
households
in
the
entire
State.
These
youngsters
are
more
likely
to
have
health
issues
and
to
struggle
in
school
and
that's
not
acceptable.
This
code
can
help.
Boise
has
always
prided
itself
on
being
family
and
child
friendly.
This
proposal
creates
Pathways
to
sustain
this.
AP
Finally,
I
appreciate
the
consideration
and
thought
for
the
health
and
vibrancy
of
our
community
as
an
aspect
of
this
proposal
having
our
immediate
neighborhoods
serve
as
a
place
where
myself
and
neighbors
can
get
out,
enjoy,
walking
strolling
writing
chatting
and
socializing
safely
and
easily
is
good
for
everyone.
I
support
this
proposal
and
the
forward-looking
opportunities
it
envisions.
Thank
you.
O
My
pronouns
are
retired,
baby,
boomer
and
Idaho
native
when
I
reached
adulthood,
I
had
a
job
and
could
afford
grade
housing
in
one
of
the
nation's
highest
cost
housing
areas
I've
never
been
wealthy,
but
my
income
has
always
supported
my
housing
needs.
The
generations
of
follow
mine
have
not
been
so
fortunate.
O
O
O
There's
also
the
suggestion
that
delaying
adoption
of
the
zoning
code
is
delaying
the
adoption
of
the
zoning
code
is
the
right
approach
to
me.
This
is
simply
another
insult
to
the
people
who
need
housing
and
would
further
restrain
production
and
increase
costs.
Therefore,
I'm
hoping
that
you
will
approve
the
new
Zone
code
as
proposed
evaluated
after
a
year
or
so
modify
it
if
it's
needed,
but
put
it
to
work
for
Boise
now.
Thank
you.
AC
AQ
Lowering
this
Stephanie
day,
my
I
work
at
503,
South,
Americana,
Boulevard,
downtown
Boise
and
I
live
out
at
9560,
West
mossywood
drive
because
I
can't
afford
to
live
in
town
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
Commissioners
for
the
space
and
thank
you
so
much
to
the
city
staff
who
have
put
so
much
work
into
this
process.
AR
AQ
Thankful
that
this
process
is
happening
and
that
so
many
people
have
been
included
in
it
and
really
appreciate
all
the
people
that
have
put
so
much
work
into
it.
So
I
want
to
give
a
perspective
professionally
and
personally.
I
have
worked
the
last
16
years
on
ending
homelessness
in
the
Treasure
Valley
I
work
for
a
nonprofit
called
catch,
which
is
a
local
non-profit,
that's
dedicated
to
ending
homelessness,
and
the
reason
that
this
is
something
that
we
support.
AQ
C
AQ
Absolute
rent
rates
as
the
drivers
of
homelessness
numbers-
and
we
have
seen
since
covid
since
the
housing
bust,
our
numbers
locally-
have
doubled
in
Ada
County
of
people
that
are
experiencing
homelessness,
which
is
very
concerning
to
us
all
of
that,
driven
by
rent
rates
and
vacancy
rates.
And
while
we
appreciate
the
parts
of
the
code
that
take
into
consideration
incentives
for
people
developing
specifically
affordable
housing
and
the
protections
for
potential
housing
that
could
be
displaced,
it
you,
you
can't
build
100,
affordable
housing
because
it
just
won't
pencil
to
do
that.
AQ
But
building
in
these
incentives
and
ways
to
kind
of
mix
your
housing
uses
is
really
helpful.
All
development
helps
you
do
need
to
have
an
intentional,
affordable
housing
Focus
too.
So
we
really
appreciate
that
being
built
into
the
code,
as
well
as
the
other
factors
and
just
a
few
facts
for
you.
The
last
couple
of
years
we
we
house
the
housing
crisis
hotline
where
everybody
in
Ada
County
that
experiences
a
housing
crisis,
calls
to
figure
out
how
they
can
get
assistance.
AQ
And
one
thing
that
has
really
changed
since
covid
is
a
bunch
of
people
calling
in
because
they've
been
renting
for
six
or
seven
years
and
their
rental
was
being
sold
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and
they
could
not
find
anywhere
else
to
go
that
they
could
afford,
and
we
have
some
of
official,
affordable
housing
that
HUD
sponsors.
AQ
But
there
was
a
lot
of
unofficial,
affordable
housing
that
disappeared
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
because
people
that
owned
their
rentals
were
selling
them
because
they
were
worth
two
or
three
times
what
they
were
when
they
bought
them
originally.
So
that
means
the
mortgages
are
two
or
three
times
what
they
were
before,
and
that
means
the
rents
are
much
greater
than
they
were.
AQ
B
Thank
you.
Let's
see:
Rory
Felton,
Terry,
Gardner
and
Charlie
Woodruff.
K
Thank
you,
everyone.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
your
work
and
I
do
believe
that
everyone
here
has
the
best
interest
of
our
city
at
heart,
I'm,
here
to
express
my
opposition
to
the
proposed
zoning
changes
along
the
Vista
Corridor
and
into
the
Depot
bench
community,
of
which
I'm
a
member,
oh
I'm,
at
2909,
West,
Clark,
Street
and
my
small
business
is
at
2417.
North
Bank
drive
so
really
close
to
each
other
in
Depot
bench.
K
As
a
concerned,
citizen
parents,
small
business
owner
and
resident
of
the
bench
I
believe
that
these
changes
would
have
detrimental
effects
on
the
character,
affordability,
safety,
soul
and
equality
of
life
in
our
community.
Firstly,
the
proposed
zoning
changes
around
the
Vista
Corridor
and
into
my
community,
specifically
my
neighborhood
prioritizes
high
density
development
without
sufficient
consideration
for
the
existing
Community
fabric.
While
I
understand
the
need
to
accommodate
population
growth
and
promote
Economic
Development,
it
is
crucial
to
strike
a
balance
between
these
goals
and
preserving
the
unique
character
of
our
neighborhoods.
K
The
Depot
bench
area
is
known
for
the
historic
charm
mid-century
homes
of
which
I'm
a
I
own
one
and
spent
a
lot
of
money
developing
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
Rebuilding
you
know
redeveloping
and
family
friendly
environment
and
access
to
Green
spaces.
The
current
zoning
would
compromise
these
attributes
and
undermine
the
sense
of
community
that
makes
our
neighborhood
special,
our
in
our
wonderful,
mature
and
established
single-family
home
Community,
where
18
children
under
the
age
of
15
can
run
free
within
our
streets.
K
It
would
permanently
change
our
wonderful
and
established
Community,
forcing
unnecessary
density
that
would
only
benefit
developers,
not
homeowners,
lower
income
residents
or
taxpayers.
These
proposed
changes
to
the
depot
bench
could
drive
families
and
small
businesses
out
of
Boise
and
into
the
surrounding
cities.
K
Secondly,
it
seems
like
the
proposed
changes
to
the
depot
bench
area
have
not
been
considered
for
the
North,
End
and
east
end
areas
as
well,
and
it
seems
like
it's
a
little
bit
not
considered
in
an
equity
fashion.
I
would
like
to
you
know
another
I
guess
proposal
would
be.
These
are
two
adjacent
areas
that
are
being
applied
to
the
depot
bench.
Perhaps
they
can
be
applied
to
every
single
Community
within
Boise
as
an
equitable
way
to
distribute
these
changes.
K
I
urge
the
council
to
con
reconsider
the
proposed
zoning
changes
and
work
with
the
Depot
bench
Community
to
develop
a
more
balanced
approach.
It
is
crucial
to
involve
local
stakeholders
in
their
decision-making
process
and
ensure
that
any
changes
aligned
with
the
community's
vision
for
its
future
I.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
we're
going
to
do
Terry,
Gardner
and
Charlie
Woodruff,
and
then
we're
going
to
be
about
seven
o'clock
at
that
point,
we're
going
to
break
for
a
half
hour
for
dinner,
okay,
okay,.
AS
So,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
all
the
work
that
you
guys
put
into
this.
My
name
is
Terry.
Gardner
I
live
at
211,
West
Elwood
Drive
Boise.
My
biggest
concern
about
the
whole.
AS
C
AS
Okay,
I'm,
so
sorry,
yeah
there
you
go
okay,
so
anyways.
My
biggest
concern
is
about
the
appointees
and
all
of
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
people
represented.
A
vote
needs
to
happen
and
I
think
that
that
should
be
a
priority.
AS
Rewriting
The
Zone
in
existing
neighborhoods
causes
more
strain
on
the
current
infrastructure
developers,
not
having
any
responsibility
for
that
they
can
put
in
fourplex
whatever
they
are
and
pretty
soon
you
have
too
many
people
in
the
schools
too
much
sewage
needs
to
be
upgraded,
all
of
those
things
new
fire
departments,
all
of
that
and
that
would
fall
on
the
taxpayers
living
in
the
community.
That
would
end
up
paying
for
the
infrastructure
and
I
feel
that
a
lot
of
people
in
my
age
group
they
can't
afford
more
taxes.
You
know
so
anyways.
AS
Those
are
big
concerns,
I
think,
there's
a
real
kind
of
weird.
This
word.
Affordability
has
been
really
mind-blowing,
because
I
don't
feel
that
affordability
has
a
definition.
I've
lived
somewhere
else,
a
few
years
back
and
affordable
housing
isn't
a
thing:
it's
capitalism,
they're
going
to
sell
their
houses
and
their
stuff
for
market
value.
My
neighbor
has
a
very
tiny
house:
just
bought
it
a
couple
years
ago,
remodeled
it
and
it
sits
there
on
it's,
been
sitting
there,
rented
or
unrented
for
a
long
time.
AS
The
same
thing:
around
the
corner:
nine
months,
a
house
sat
there
unrented
it's
an
hour
for
sale
pending,
so
I
mean
people
can't
afford
what
is
here,
people
that
live
here
and
exist
here
now
they
have
no
affordability
and
our
wages
didn't
keep
up
with
all
of
this.
So
where
do
they
go?
They
go
into
cars.
AS
Let's
see
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
thinking
about
too
in
my
neighborhood
I
have
a
strip
of
Townhouses
there's
no
parking.
Where
are
they
parking
there
on
the
street
and
pretty
soon?
If
you
continue
doing
that,
house
gets
torn
down
three
or
four
or
six
townhouses
go
in
there.
Pretty
soon
you
have
really
crowded
streets,
nobody
is
I,
mean
kids
are
walking
out
into
the
street.
To
get
around
the
cars
I
mean
just
really
feels
like
the
impact
in
the
existing
neighborhoods
would
be
highly
compromised.
AS
AT
Commissioners
and
it's
always
great
to
be
the
last
one
before
dinner,
between
between
at
least
it's
not
happy
hour
good
evening,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
share
my
thoughts
on
the
proposed
zoning
code.
My
name
is
Charlie
Woodruff
I
live
at
1315,
East
Washington,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho
83712
I
am
here
to
support,
express
my
support
for
the
zoning
code
rewrite
and
while
it
may
not
be
perfect,
it
is
a
significant
step
in
the
right
direction
to
help
us
address.
AT
Our
housing
issues
make
progress
toward
our
climate
goals
and
improve
our
already
great
quality
of
life.
The
proposed
code
sets
an
important
base
or
framework
for
our
community
to
grow
in
ways
that
do
the
least
amount
of
harm
in
my
professional
life.
I
spend
quite
a
bit
of
time
working
in
Phoenix,
Vegas,
Denver
and
Salt
Lake
City.
These
cities
are
much
larger
and
are
dealing
with
a
tremendous
amount
of
sprawl,
as
many
of
us
know,
and
as
a
result
of
their
single
use.
Zoning
and
development
pattern
built
around
Suburbia
and
cars.
AT
I
want
to
see
us
accommodate
growth
here
we
already
have
infrastructure
and
services
where
we
already
have
infrastructure
and
services,
rather
than
see
the
massive
sprawling
developments,
for
instance
like
spring
Rock
proposed
near
kuna
or
where
people
have
to
drive
more
and
new
infrastructure
is
more
expensive
to
build.
The
biggest
positive
impact
I
see
for
this
code
is
in
requiring
the
type
of
density.
AT
The
cost
of
construction
is
extremely
high.
I
do
encourage
staff
and
commission
members
to
consider
carefully
whether
or
not
the
code
AS
written
May
unintentionally
cause
smaller
single-family
homes
to
be
demolished
and
replaced
with
very
large
single-family
homes
in
r1c
districts,
as
that
does
not
achieve
what
we
want
to
see
unless
you're
living
under
Iraq.
We
know
that
there
are
important.
There
are
significant
deficit
of
housing
units
for
us
here
to
meet
the
current
demand,
as
many
people
have
have
expressed
it's
not
too
late
to
do
something
about
it.
AT
Yes,
housing
Supply
is
directly
related
to
housing,
affordability
and
we
need
all
types
of
housing
to
meet
our
needs,
including
truly
affordable
subsidized
housing,
Workforce
housing
and
market
rate
housing.
All
of
these
are
part
of
the
puzzle.
This
code
rewrite
gives
us
more
tools
and
flexibility
to
create
more
types
of
housing
in
areas
that
we
want
it
to
be
built.
AT
In
Boise
I'm
also
Support
over
including
the
allowed
uses
of
neighborhood
cafes
bodegas
and
live
work
units
in
this
code,
update
I'm,
very
lucky
to
live
near
Roosevelt
market
and
know
many
of
my
neighbors
and
friends
and
family
from
across
the
city
would
love
to
have
these
types
of
Services
located
in
their
neighborhoods,
where
they
can
walk
to
without
using
their
car
I'm
excited
to
see
more
diversity
of
housing
with
my
own
neighborhood,
including
duplexes
triplexes,
and
this
goes
moves
Us
in
that
direction.
B
B
Okay,
we
will
continue
on
here
with
testimony
we're
just
gonna
pick
up
where
we
left
off.
First
is
Fred
fritzman
and
then
Melissa
Pratt,
Kim,
Pratt,
Brad,
Nielsen
and
Richard
fritzly.
AU
Good
evening
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Fred
Richmond
and
I
live
at
1321
Denver
Avenue.
In
the
past
20
years,
I've
served
on
City
sponsored
committees
that
wrote
new
infill
codes
for
houses
and
duplexes
on
substandard
lots
and
in
established
neighborhoods
the
zoning
code.
Rewrite
up
zones
are
two
areas
with
many
new
entitlements
reduce
lot
size.
Unlimited
density
and
a
height
limit
of
45
feet
are
not
compatible
with
the
built
environment
of
our
established
R2
areas.
AU
AU
Areas
like
this
already
accommodate
so-called
missing
middle
housing
at
a
scale
that
preserves
what
neighbors
bought
into
residents
should
not
have
to
live
in
fear
of
what
can
be
built
next
to
them,
because
those
in
power
decided
more
units.
Trump
their
peace
of
mind,
these
neighborhoods
are
where
people
raise
their
families
and
invest
their
fortunes.
They
are
not
bare
ground
to
be
exploited
for
the
highest
profit
and
the
greatest
property
tax
revenue.
AU
As
you
know,
many
Boy
scenes
have
pushed
back
hard
against
the
zcr.
Many
more
likely
know
nothing
about
it.
The
code
has
been
a
moving
Target
and
the
final
draft
just
came
out
on
February
28th
I'm
disappointed
that
the
city
has
provided
no
executive
summary
to
citizens
detailing
the
changes.
Here's.
What
most
people
will
see
the
flyer
from
this
month's
sewer
and
trash
bill?
Talking
about
the
rewrite?
AU
This
rewrite
should
be
paused
for
a
thorough,
open
public
vetting
with
the
citizens
of
Boise.
The
stakes
are
simply
too
high
to
do
a
test
run
to
see
what
doesn't
work.
We
need
to
spend
the
time
to
get
it
right,
the
first
time,
because
our
neighbors
will
have
to
live
next
door
to
the
consequences.
If
we
don't.
AU
B
AV
AV
You
know
that
I
love
history,
I've
lived
in
Warm
Springs
for
about
30
years
now
we
have
some
historic
overlay
protections,
but
what
we
have
now
is
not
really
enough,
even
with
testifying
and
trying
to
protect
this
very
small
part
of
Boise's
history,
I
have
a
brand
new
house
on
my
left
and
a
brand
new
house
on
my
right
I'm
confused
about
how
the
new
code
will
affect
historic,
neighborhoods
and
I
would
love
to
have
a
meeting
where
specific
differences
from
pass
codes
are
compared
with
this
new
code.
AV
In
regards
to
these
historic
districts,
how
does
this
affect
non-contributing
houses,
for
example?
I
worry
that
you
are
removing
our
ability
to
protect
Boise's
history.
I
am
in
full
agreement
with
a
loader
from
the
East
End
neighborhood
association,
sent
to
you
asking
for
further
time,
I'd
invite
you
to
reach
out
to
our
historic
group,
The
Warm,
Springs
historic
district
Association
and
include
meet
with
us
for
a
devils
in
the
detail
kind
of
thing.
Let's
take
a
look
at
it
drill
it
down
see
if
we
feel
really
truly
comfortable.
That's
my
first
issue.
AV
The
next
is
that
I
know.
It
said
this
will
bring
affordable
housing
to
the
area
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you've
ever
taken
a
call
from
a
little
old
lady
who
is
living
on
997
dollars
a
month,
but
in
Prior
job
I
did
and
I
had
to
tell
them.
You
know
can't
cover
you
in
Boise.
You
need
to
move
to
Caldwell
and
after
a
while,
you
couldn't
even
cover
it
in
Caldwell,
it's
just
a
sad
situation
and
we
have
multi.
You
know
young
families.
AV
We
have
disabled
people,
so
I'd
really
like
to
understand
the
specifics
of.
How
much
is
this
going
to
help
people?
How
many
units
are
you
really
talking
about?
Has
anybody
really
done
the
math?
It's
possible?
It's
been
done
and
I
just
haven't
seen
it
I
worry
about
the
developers
who
will
likely
bring
in
upscale
units,
because
that
makes
more
money
for
them
and
it'll
displace
the
older,
more
affordable
living
options
that
are
now
there.
AV
We
are
woefully
short
on
affordable
housing
units
I'd
really
like
to
understand
how
this
really
will
ensure
this
new
code
will
actually
lead
to
the
affordable
housing.
Finally,
I
know
there
were
a
lot
of
last
minute
changes
and
I.
Just
think.
If
Greg
austro,
an
almost
40-year
veteran
of
architecture,
doesn't
understand
it,
I,
don't
know
how
you
are
expected
to
understand
it
and
I,
don't
know
how
I
am
and
expected
to
understand.
It
I
think
that
further
meetings
need
to
be
done
with
what
the
final
was
to
really
lay
it
out
for
this
neighborhood.
AV
This
is
what
it
could
mean
for
that
neighborhood.
This
is
what
it
could
mean.
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
and
I'm
sure
it
was
well
done,
but
somehow
you
need
to
dumb
it
down.
So
we
can
truly
understand
what
you're
asking
for
so
I
look
forward
to
seeing
some
support
in
getting
further
education
and
I'd
ask
for
the
city
to
provide
that.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
B
Thank
you:
okay,
Kim
Pratt,
Brad,
Nielsen,
Richard,
Fritz,
Lee,
Bowman
and
Matthew
Holman.
AW
Excuse
me
good
evening
and
chairman
and
Commissioners
appreciate
the
opportunity:
Kim
Pratt
1409
East
Warm
Springs
Boise
Idaho,
other
half
of
the
lovely
wife
that
just
spoke
in
support
of
everything,
she's
saying
a
few
things.
AW
To
add
to
that,
we
do
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
some
of
these
issues
now,
in
particular,
the
issues
that
we
have
on
Echo,
what
she
said
and
take
a
little
further
the
horse,
the
historic
side
of
life
as
it
has
been,
in
particular
for
us
in
the
warm
springs
historic
district
emphasis
on
the
word
historic
we've
been
in
the
same
building
many
times
over,
gosh
I,
don't
know
the
last
10
15
years
any
and
every
issue
you
can
think
of
fighting.
AW
Maybe
a
better
word,
is
proactively
managing
all
the
things
that
have
happened.
As
she
mentioned.
A
new
homeowner
right,
a
new
homeowner
left
I,
don't
know
how
that
in
the
world,
that's
historic.
We
do
not
want
some
large
home
next
to
us.
We
have
no
control
over
when
and
how
it
comes,
and
what
that
does
to
not
only
our
lifestyle
but
the
love
of
historic
homes
and
our
investment
to
be
quite
Frank.
AW
We've
lived
there
now
about
28
years
was
a
five-year
plan
to
come
to
Boise,
and
we
try
to
be
quite
active
with
all
this
I
can
appreciate
the
gentleman's
statement
to
open
this
up
that
perhaps
since
the
summer
time
this
has
all
been
discussed
not
to
get
too
personal.
But
my
my
situation
personally
is
that
I'm
recovering
from
a
rare
cancer
and
I
haven't
been
Grassroots
from
that
summertime.
AW
If
that
was
really
going
on,
however,
as
I
hear
everybody
speak
tonight,
I
hear
both
sides,
some
say:
gosh,
the
most
democratic
process
ever
you're,
great
you're,
wonderful,
I,
support
this
and
I've
heard
an
awful
lot
and
I
heard
there's
an
awful
lot
last
night
saying
just
the
opposite.
So
as
a
retired
advertising,
Marketing
sales
guy
I
think
there
might
be
an
issue
with
that
too
I'm
in
full
support
of
affordable
housing.
AW
I
can't
disagree
whatsoever
with
the
need
for
that,
but
perhaps
we
need
to
have
even
more
Grassroots
involvement
in
some
of
these
situations
and
maybe
that's
advertising
and
promotional
or
more
Grassroots
involvement
from
various
sources
that
do
get
us
all
involved
from
the
get-go
in
particular,
when
their
last
minute
revisions
made,
as
my
wife
pointed
out,
apparently
was
the
case
just
just
February
developers.
AW
AW
Out
of
our
great
City
I
appreciate
you
listening
and
if
you,
if
you,
if
you
can't
tell
I'm,
not
necessarily
in
favor
of
this
but
I'm,
not
necessarily
as
opposed
to
it
as
I
thought
it
was
by
coming
because
I'm
learning
more
even
this
evening,
a
620
page
piece
is
a
little
hard
to
digest.
But
thank
you
for
your
attention
this
evening
and
appreciate
the
idea
of
delaying
this.
B
Thank
you:
okay,
Brad
Nielsen
and
then
Richard
fritzly,
Leah,
Bowman,
Matthew,
Omen
and
Vivian
lockery.
AX
First
of
all,
Andrea
and
the
gals
and
professions
Mr
chair
very.
AX
AX
Brad
Nielsen
one
zero,
zero,
three
zero
West,
Tanglewood
I
didn't
want
to
waste
my
time
on
saying
thank
you
to
these
people,
but
Andrew
anyway.
Andrea
and
the
gals
were
very
kind
to
me
and
and
through
the
process
and
Tim
very
professional
people.
AX
I
am
one
of
the
zoning
rewrite
I
was
on
the
committee.
I
thought.
My
tour
was
over.
I
wasn't
really
excited
about
coming
in
here
today,
but
I
watched
two
days
of
this,
and
it
angered
me
that
home
ownership
has
become
villainized.
AX
I've
heard.
You
know
we're
bigots
we're
racists,
we're
elitists
were
selfish
or
nimbies
newbies,
whatever
that
is
and
and
as
of
tonight
were
villains
because
we
were
born
here.
You
know
I'm
not
going
to
apologize
for
owning
a
house.
I
worked
my
ass
off,
for
it.
I
happened
to
own
two
houses
and
my
rent
I
was
a
rental
and
I'm
only
charging,
maybe
2010
prices.
AX
What
I
think
the
problem
is
right
now
is:
is
greed
I
am
in
structural
design
I'm
getting
distracted
from
my
own
notes,
but
anyway
I
just
designed
a
four
or
three
level
apartment
building
down
on
Hillcrest
and
it's
not
being
built
I
did
that
a
year
ago,
I
just
scrolled
through
Craigslist
and
there's
endless
rentals
out
there
I'm,
not
sure
where
the
shortage
is
at.
AX
What
I've
heard
this
last
couple
days
is
I,
don't
think
anybody's
opposed
to
having
housing
density.
Even
it's
just
How
We
Do
It
I've
lived
in
my
I've
lived
in
Boise.
My
whole
life
I
was
born
off
of
Fairview.
AX
I
grew
up
here,
I
I
know
what
Boise
was
I
know
that
it's
disappearing,
but
she
doesn't
exist
anymore.
It's
something
different
now
and
it's
just
the
way
life
is.
One
of
my
problems
was
the
process
of
what
got
us
here.
I'm
running
out
of
time,
I
tried
to
get
itd
hchd
the
bus
system
I
tried
to
get
everybody
to
the
table.
There's
some
other
players
here
other
than
you.
AX
And
we
need
to
take
them
into
account
on
what
we
make
our
decisions
on.
They
need
to.
The
infrastructure
needs
to
be
here
before
we
we
intensify
whatever
you
want
to
call
that,
but
mainly
my
light
are
heightened
or
my
problems
with
it
is
the
height
up
against
residential
I.
Think
that's
a
privacy
problem
and
I.
Think
business
within
residential
is
also
a
privacy
problem.
AX
You
know
noise.
My
worst
case
scenario
that
I
see
is
a
restaurant
in
a
neighborhood
serves
beer
music
late
into
the
night.
That's
a
problem
for
me!
So
there's
a
saying
the
end
of
it
is
weak.
Men
create
week
times,
I
think
we
need
to
spend
some
time
and
get
representation
for
districts
too.
Okay,.
B
Online:
okay,
Leah
Bowman
and
Matthew
Omen
Vivian,
lockery,
Kevin,
kles
and
Renee
sandmeyer.
AY
I'm
Leah
Bowman
I
live
in
the
Veterans
Park
neighborhood
and,
as
most
people
here
probably
feel
I'm
very
anxious
to
be
standing
in
front
of
a
powerful
board
talking
about
what
I
love
about
Boise.
Thank
you,
but
I
I,
think
I'm
here,
because
I
care
about
this
city
very
deeply
and
I
want
to
stand
up
for
Boise's
values
for
what
we
love
here
and
I.
I.
AY
I
found
myself
with
my
anxiety,
you've
seen
me
pacing,
and
one
of
the
things
I've
found
myself
doing
is
trying
to
look
out
the
windows
and
look
for
a
site
of
the
foothills.
It's
been
something
that
I've
been
just
kind
of
tonight,
noticing
that
I'm.
Looking
for
the
comfort
that
the
natural
world
brings
to
us
living
in
a
city
and
it's
hard
to
find
in
this
building,
you
can
go.
AY
AY
The
density
is
going
to
increase
population
within
the
city.
It's
going
to
increase
use
of
our
natural
spaces,
our
Green
Belt,
our
Foothills,
our
Parks,
and
as
much
as
we
all
love
and
honor
those
spaces.
AY
When
we
reduce
citizen
input
when
I
when
I
think
about
who
should
have
the
most
say
in
Boise
around
development,
it
should
be
the
people
who
live
here.
It
shouldn't
be
developers,
I'm
concerned
that
this
up
Zone
sort
of
blanket
statements
that
developers
have
more
in
investors
outside
investors
have
more
power
than
the
citizens
to
direct
the
course
of
our
city.
AY
So
that's
why
I'm
here
tonight,
I'm
scared
to
be
standing
here,
but
it's
our
civic
duty,
I
think
to
be
able
to
come
and
speak
to
issues
that
directly
impact
our
neighborhoods
and
our
quality
of
life
and
as
a
citizen
of
Boise
I
feel
I
speak
for
the
values
of
conservation
access
to
the
outdoors
safety
Community,
whereas
developers
are
frankly
concerned
about
their
bottom
line.
There's
been
a
lot
of
talk
tonight
about
affordability
in
our
Market.
AY
That's
an
obvious
issue
that
no
one
in
this
room
will
argue
with,
but
to
assume
that
developers
give
a
damn
about
that
I
think
is
a
farce,
so
I
think
keeping
citizens
input
close
at
hand
through
this
rezone
is
the
most
critical
thing
we
can
do
to
make
this
work.
Thank
you.
B
H
H
We
reside
in
various
parts
of
the
Qualstar
neighborhood
ever
since
we
are
more
than
familiar
with
housing,
affordability
issues
during
our
married
life,
we've
experience
living
in
high
rent
and
high
Purchase
cost
housing
areas
while
having
a
very
low
income
having
to
drive
long
distance
to
get
the
work
mortgage
interest
rates
exceeding
21
percent.
Our
first
mortgage
in
1982
was
at
12
and
we
felt
lucky
getting
the
Fixer-Upper.
We
did.
We
sold
the
house
to
cover
medical
expenses
in
graduate
school.
H
I
was
a
lead
member
of
a
team
at
the
center
for
Real
Estate
studies
at
Indiana,
University
to
developed
the
first
housing
affordability
index
covered
in
the
entire
state
and
its
major
population.
Centers
and
regions.
I
have
also
taught
real
estate
appraisal
to
undergraduates.
As
an
Adjunct
professor,
since
our
first
house
purchase,
we
have
gone
through
a
series
of
fixed
properties
and
now
live
in
a
very
lovely
home
in
the
Sycamore
overlay.
There
will
always
be
my
Fixer-Upper
as
I,
build
it
myself
and
eventually
in
a
state
of
trying
to
improve
it.
H
We
spent
10
years
looking
for
property
in
the
Sycamore
overlay.
We
love
it
large
Lots
room
for
Animals
flood,
irrigation,
Lawns
and
garden
private
whale
abundant
wildlife.
Recently
I've
had
as
many
as
18
deer.
In
my
garden,
one
of
the
bucks
even
left
me
a
gift
this
year
with
a
four-point
antler
in
the
yard,
I'm
not
too
keen
on
the
fox
and
the
coyotes,
but
at
least
the
coyote
kills.
The
feral
cats
with
the
City
Animal
Control
will
not
do
it's
a
self-sufficient
Paradise
as
close
to
work
in
medical
facility
facilities.
H
Our
family
needs
it's
a
Haven
for
walkers
from
within
the
overlay
and
nearby
blocks.
In
summary,
life
is
great
in
the
Sycamore
overlay.
So
why
is
the
true
City
trying
to
screw
it
up?
City
staff
I
think
even
the
new
planning
director
visited
the
neighborhood
and
agreed
that
the
Sycamore
overlay
should
be
preserved.
Yesterday,
the
collister
neighborhood
association
presidents,
supposedly
speaking
for
himself
stated
we
have
been
deeply
heard
and
considered.
This
is
nonsense
and
totally
untrue.
H
While
the
new
zoning
scheme
does
not
allow
our
loss
to
be
subdivided,
it
does
allow
for
up
to
a
four-plex
unit
to
be
built
on
a
lot.
This
is
a
distinction
without
a
difference
and
is
certainly
not
being
deeply
heard
and
considered.
In
fact,
it
is
worse
and
is
unacceptable.
As
I
said,
we
spent
a
decade
finding
our
property
chosen
for
all
the
wonderful
attributes.
I
mentioned
the
those
attributes
did
not
include
having
four
units:
four
families
with
four
times
the
traffic
on
one
side
of
you,
whether
it's
previously
one
we
are
not
anti-renter.
H
There
are
plenty
of
renters
in
the
area
and
we
have
been
renters
ourselves.
We
are
not
anti-low
income,
we
have
been
there
ourselves,
we
are
not
against
smaller
homes.
They're
overlay
is
a
mix
of
small
and
large
homes.
What
I
am
against
is
being
gaslighted
and
forced
into
a
zoning
experiment.
Gaslight
and
experiment
are
intentionally
used,
because
that
is
the
exact
words
used
by
two
members
of
this
commission
Monday
evening,
and
that
is
what's
being
done
to
us.
By
this
zoning
scheme.
H
We
have
spent
42
years
of
marriage
working
to
achieve
the
life
we
have
now.
It's
offensive
that
the
city
thinks
it's
Equitable
to
significantly
increase
density
and
one
established
neighborhoods.
We
are
one
of
thousands
in
the
city
that
will
suffer
significant
negative
impacts
by
this
thoughtless
one
size,
fits-all
density
increase,
accepting
of
course,
North
End
and
historic
districts,
I'm
sure,
there's
good
in
other
parts
of
the
rewrite
that
are
needed,
I
wouldn't
know,
since
inadequate
time
was
allowed
per
review.
H
So,
yes,
I,
focused
on
my
backyard
began
Commissioners,
because
that
is
what
people
want
to
do
on
their
tax.
Yes,
this
is
the
attack
property
rights
of
many
citizens
of
the
city.
This
commission
needs
to
reject
this
proposal,
send
it
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
reconsider
it.
After
digesting
the
true
citizen
input
you
receive,
not
thousands.
B
Okay,
thank
you
Mr,
particularly
that's
your
time.
Matthew
Omen,
then
Vivian
Locker,.
AZ
Hello,
my
name
is
Matt
omman
I
live
in
2714,
North,
Tamarack
I'm
against
the
up
zone
for
for
many
reasons,
I
grew
up
here
in
Boise
and
I
see
that
the
up
zone
is
in
violation
of
certain
ideals.
Certain
profound
ideals
that
have
led
to
the
creation
of
a
really
great
City
I
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
civic
pride
because
of
the
way
that
the
city
has
prioritized
conservation.
AZ
We
see
that
in
this
state
we
have
the
largest
Wilderness
Area
in
the
lower
48,
the
Frank
Church
Wilderness
Area,
and
that
was
established
in
order
to
give
people
something
give
some
give
people
something,
and
it
spoke
to
to
very
high-minded
ideals.
What
they
are,
in
my
mind,
are
Universal
and
binding
human
ideals
that
are
that
we
have
in
the
city
right
now,
which
is
integrated,
Green
Space.
So
we
talk
about
Boise
growing
and
becoming
a
big
city
someday
and
I
asked
myself
what
kind
of
big
city
will
it
be?
AZ
Don't
believe
that
this
zoning
code
provides
for
that.
If
someone
has
a
lot,
they
divide
it
as
much
as
they
want.
They
pave
over
that
available,
Green
Space,
which
affects
the
overall
community
and
so
I'm
speaking
against
that,
but
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
I'm
understood
too,
because
I
think
that
when
we
talk
about
preventing
urban
sprawl,
if
we,
if
we
build
densely
here,
that's
not
going
to
stop
any
sprawl
what's
happening
now
is
both
areas
are
being
consumed
by
development,
making
a
stand
showing
people?
AZ
What
a
city
looks
like
the
city
of
the
future
looks
like
with
integrated
Green
Space
I
think
is
a
priority
as
we
move
forward.
Conservation
preservation
of
the
environment
is
going
to
become
more
important.
This
is
just
the
first
interaction
with
this
there'll
be
more
to
come,
as
as
we
say
that
the
cities,
the
direction
that
the
city
is
taking
with
development,
is
I,
see
in
my
mind,
an
attack
on
the
lifestyle.
AZ
That's
been
developed
here
that
lifestyle
comes,
and
it
was
developed
through,
like
I,
said
values
that
are,
that
showed
a
great
deal
of
wisdom
and
during
covet
we
saw
an
increase
in
influx
of
people
that
wanted
to
live
here
because
of
the
lifestyle.
They
were
literally
fleeing
Urban
environments
because
of
the
lack
of
green
space
that
Boise
provides
both
down
the
Sub
Zone.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
AZ
B
BA
Chairman
and
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Vivian
lockery
2211
North
19th
Street
been
a
Boise
resident
for
30
years.
I,
don't
support
this
proposed
zoning
ordinance.
It
seems
to
me
that
it
expands.
The
type
of
use
is
allowed
for
I
mean
administrative
approval,
things
like
triplexes
fourplexes,
the
neighborhood
retail
sales
and
and
cafes,
which
include
establishments
that
can
serve
alcohol
I'm,
not
opposed
to
density
to
the
process
that
we've
gone
through.
BA
I
know
it's
taken
a
lot
of
time,
a
lot
of
hours,
a
lot
of
collaboration
and
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
went
into
it.
But
what
this
means
by
by
just
allowing
administrative
approval
is
all
the
public
involvement
process
has
been
removed,
so
the
conditional
use
permit
permitting
with
public
notification
and
public
hearings.
All
that
is
required
is
the
admin
and
it
is,
is
an
administrative
nod
in
the
favor
of
Developers.
BA
So
as
this
commission,
most
of
you
remember,
that's
exactly
what
the
Boise
mayor
and
city
council
did
when
they
changed
the
wireless
communication
section
of
the
city
code.
Over
a
year
ago,
dozens
of
residents
showed
up
at
public
hearings
even
more
submitted
written
written
testimony.
BA
The
city
even
received
a
petition
from
an
from
idahoans
for
safe
technology,
with
over
a
thousand
signatures,
all
in
opposition
to
their
draft,
which
was
stripping
the
wireless
ordinance
of
these
protective
Clauses
of
the
public
involvement
process,
and
this
commission
and
I
and
I
I'm
grateful
for
this
recommended
not
to
eliminate
the
conditional
use
permit
and
other
existing
public
involvement
processes
from
the
wireless
ordinance.
The
mayor
and
city
council
simply
chose
to
ignore
it
all.
BA
So
it
seems
to
me
that
the
the
proposed
zoning
ordinance
will
encourage
the
demolition
of
existing
homes
and
and
just
seem
to
redis
re
read
this
redistribute
ownership
to
large
investors
to
those
who
can
afford
to
do
this
type
of
development
and
and
that,
just
by
by
its
nature,
will
will
displace
residents
increase
property
values,
make
it
even
harder
for
Boise
residents
to
become
homeowners.
BA
We've
heard
from
a
lot
of
people,
my
age
that
have
children,
the
Next
Generation
just
can't
even
afford
to
live
here,
much
much
more
or
even
entertain.
Renting.
Here,
property
tax
is
already
a
growing
burden,
for
homeowners
will
will
increase
as
well
I
think
this
draft
severely
weakens
or
eliminates
some
of
the
criteria.
That
is,
we
need
to
protect
property
rights
and
do
all
the
other
things
that.
H
BB
BA
V
My
name
is
Kevin
class
I'm,
a
former
Captain
United
States
Air
Force,
where
I
served
in
the
National
Aerospace
Intelligence
Center
I
was
also
at
the
Air
Force
operational
test
evaluation
center,
where
I
was
chief
of
operations,
test
and
valuation
of
various
Advanced
electromagnetic
sensors
and
tele,
and
combat
telecommunication
systems.
I
hold
a
masters
in
physics.
V
I
have
a
fellowship
at
the
national
academies
of
science,
where
I'm
under
the
Air
Force
studies
board
and
I
want
to
mention
that
recently,
as
of
last
August,
the
Federal
Court
Circuit
one
has
ordered
the
FCC
to
re-evaluate
its
Wireless
safety
protocols.
So
the
evidence
is
overwhelming
of
the
about
the
harmful
effects
of
of
evolving
5G
6G
and
then
future
7g
Technologies,
not
only
just
human
health,
but
also
and
nature
and
animal
life.
So
I
encourage
you
to
check
out,
do
a
search
query
on
idahoans
for
safetechnology.org.
V
V
If
somebody
brought
a
black
box
and
put
it
on
a
tower
next
to
my
residence,
I
would
I
demand
the
right
to
be
notified
number
one
I
believe
also
that
the
public
needs
readily
available
access
to
one,
the
full
schematics
of
this
mysterious
black
box,
whether
it's
on
a
telephone
pole,
Tower
or
cable
number,
two,
the
power
output
and
frequencies,
it
emits
and
three
three
also
it's
known
operators
where
the
commercial
private,
whoever
and
four
what
security
Protocols
are
in
place.
If
they
write
security
protocols,
encryption
is
not
right
in
place.
V
The
idea
that
any
Joe,
schmoe,
Corporation
or
any
other
entity
can
place
an
unknown
wireless
system
within
Boise
that
can
transmit
unknown
electromagnetic
frequencies
at
different
Power
Ranges,
with
only
a
quick
rubber
stamp,
and
no
public
notification
or
hearing
I
find
personally
terrifying.
B
Thank
you,
Renee
sandmayer,
Rosemary,
mcclenahan,
Anthony,
Hauser,
James,
Kaufman,.
C
B
BC
Yeah,
you
know
I
just
realized
that
some
people
were
smart
enough
to
upload
a
slide
and
I
I.
Couldn't
do
that.
Gotcha.
B
BC
So
I
do
have
photos
that
just
depict
part
of
my
testimony
here,
you're
welcome
to
look
at
them
or
or
not.
Okay,.
BC
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Renee
sandmeyer
I
live
at
1705
West
Canal
Street
in
the
Vista
neighborhood
I
oppose
this
rezoning
proposal
for
several
reasons,
but
to
keep
my
testimony
concise,
I'll
focus
on
one
reason:
I
can
most
objectively
outline
it's
the
negative
impact
to
biking
and
walking
safety
and
traffic
congestion
within
existing
neighborhoods
I
Define,
my
immediate
existing
neighborhood
as
having
the
boundaries
of
Vista,
the
New
York
Canal,
the
railroad
tracks
and
Malad
Street
I
counted.
There
are
710
individual
dwellings,
Within
These
boundaries
now
with
506
Lots
containing
single-family
homes.
BC
Soon
the
city
plans
to
add
1216
dwellings
within
this
boundary
on
what
many
call
the
old
semenich
property.
This
is
pre-rezoning
approval.
The
new
reason
approval
appears
it
could
approve
up
to
four
dwellings
per
existing
lot
in
my
neighborhood
meaning
my
neighborhood
density
could
increase
five-fold
from
what
it
is
now
that's
fivefold.
BC
My
neighborhood
has
three
main
entrances
and
exits.
Two
are
uncontrolled
on
Federal
Way
one's
controlled
on
Vista
Avenue
people
love
their
cars
I'm
highly
skeptical
of
skeptical,
of
the
assumption
that
most
or
many
of
these
new
residents
will
be
motor
vehicle
aversive.
BC
To
illustrate
this
point,
I've
taken
the
7
A.M
city
bus
downtown
to
work,
probably
for
15
plus
years,
despite
the
increase
in
population
inflation's
effect
on
Downtown
parking
fees
and
even
when
gas
crested
five
dollars
per
gallon
The
ridership
Remains
steady
on
average,
there
are
four
riders
that
get
on
and
off
that
bus.
That
includes
me,
by
the
time
we
get
downtown.
That's
four
writers,
my
disabled
brother-in-law,
loves
to
walk
to
the
Starbucks
on
Federal
Way.
To
get
a
special
treat
doing.
BC
BC
To
avoid
you
know,
when
cars
are
approaching
you,
they
can't
see
you
it's
a
very
dangerous
situation
to
avoid
the
risk
I
end
up
driving,
as
do
others.
BC
Canal
Street
has
a
Bikeway,
it's
nice
and
it
abruptly
ends
at
Federal
Way.
Due
to
the
increase
in
developments
along
Federal
Way
over
the
past
three
to
five
years,
I
can
no
longer
safely
bike
or
walk
across
Federal
Way
to
enjoy
that
green
belt.
Let
alone
make
a
left-hand
left-hand
turn
out
of
my
neighborhood
onto
Federal
Way
weekly
I,
see
the
remnants
of
vehicular
accidents
at
this
intersection.
Increasing
the
density
to
neighborhoods
will
only
compound
all
these
hazards
I'm
certain.
There
are
dozens
of
other
neighborhoods
in
Boise,
with
similar
shortcomings
and.
BC
B
BC
BD
My
name
is
Rosemary
McClanahan
and
I
live
at
3300
North
Hawthorne
Drive
I'm
opposed
to
the
Boise
zoning
code,
rewrite
and
support
the
concerns
of
Boise
working
together's
letter
in
your
packet.
The
zcr
picks
winners
and
losers
in
our
city.
Areas
with
ccrs,
HOAs
and
historic
district
designations
will
feel
little
if
any
impact
from
the
proposed
VCR
basic
economics
tells
us
the
rewrite,
will
Target
property
of
senior
citizens
and
those
with
low
and
modest
incomes
for
redevelopment
single-family
homes
will
be
replaced
by
high
density
apartments
and
multi-use
structures.
BD
The
zcr
moves
housing
options
away
from
starter
homes,
where
residents
can
begin
building
Equity
towards
rentals,
a
six-story
130
unit
apartment
building,
recently
proposed
or
cash
in
River
Street
in
downtown
Boise
illustrates
the
challenges
of
building
new,
affordable
housing.
Four
affordable
four
plexes
will
be
demolished
to
make
way
for
this
structure.
Developers
proposed
13,
affordable
units
at
100
of
Ami,
which
translates
to
seventy
thousand
dollars
for
a
two-person
household.
Is
this
really
affordable
for
a
single
working
parent
and
a
child
in
Boise?
BD
At
the
recent
city
council
hearing
the
developer
told
the
council
that,
if
they
required
adding
two
more
affordable
units
at
60
percent
of
Ami,
the
owner
would
just
reapply
after
the
zcr
was
approved
and
likely
not
require
any
affordable
units.
Demolishing
existing,
affordable
housing
does
not
lead
to
new,
affordable
units
taking
their
place.
The
percentages
of
affordable
units,
the
zcr
requires
in
new
buildings
range
from
0
to
25
percent
and
have
varying
Ami
criteria.
That's
not
a
lot
of
units.
Some
also
require
50-year
affordability,
commitment
who
will
be
monitoring
eligibility
over
the
next
50
years.
BD
The
Epson
leaves
some
of
Boise's
residential
zoning
designations
in
place,
but
changes
many
standards.
For
example,
for
example,
the
minimum
lot
size
of
r1c
goes
from
5000
to
3
500
square
feet
allowed
uses
changes
from
single-family
units
to
the
potential
of
additionals.
Triplexes
are
fourplexes.
The
requirement
for
owner
occupancy
goes
away
for
adus.
These
changes
violate
the
understanding
most
neighbors
had
when
they
bought
their
homes.
I'm
also
very
concerned
about
the
proposed
administrative
procedures
which
reduce
neighborhood
notifications,
comment
opportunities,
public
hearings
and
appeal
processes.
This
can
reduce
or
eliminate
impact
residents.
BD
B
AY
B
James
Kaufman
and
then
staff.
It
looks
like
we
have
a
bunch
of
folks
coming
up
that
are
online,
see
that
okay.
AE
AE
Update
in
the
proposed
draft
I
do
have
one
additional
thing:
that
I
would
think
that
we
should
consider
as
a
proposal,
and
that
is
tasked
the
staff,
Commissioners
and
city
council
members
to
consider
the
removal
of
minimum
parking
requirements
for
residential
development,
and
the
question
is
why
well
three
major
issues,
number
one
is
better
for
the
climate.
If
we
can
have
less
cars,
especially
for
a
city
like
Boise,
where
we're
prone
to
have
inversions,
which
then
lead
to
sub
substandard
air
quality
it
anything
we
can
do
to
reduce
cars.
AE
I
think
is
a
very
important
thing
and
the
other
thing
is
that
it
would
provide
more
affordability
to
renters.
When
you
have
to
build
parking,
it
adds
the
cost
adds
to
the
cost
of
development,
and
also
it
reduces
congestion
and
it'd,
be
much
better
to
deal
with
this
proactively.
Now,
while
we're
making
the
zoning
code
changes
where
I've
been
trying
to
have
to
figure
it
out
down
the
road,
you'd,
look
at
a
city
like
San
Diego,
where
I
think
four
or
five
years
ago
they
used
to
require.
AE
You
know:
there's
other
cities,
Bend
just
removed
minimum
parking
requirements,
Corvallis
removed
minimum
parking
requirements,
South
Bend
Indiana,
it's
not
confined
just
to
the
west
and
dozens
of
other
cities.
Ironically
even
Sandpoint
Idaho,
which
is
a
very
small
town,
they
did
remove
some
minimum
parking
requirements
for
their
downtown
area.
So
this
is
a
universal
thing
where
the
trend
is
to
reduce
parking.
I
think
there's
value
to
that.
People
still
need
to
get
from
one
place
to
another.
So
I
think
if
developers
build
places
with
no
parking.
AE
That's
where
you
get
creativity
of
the
Innovative
approaches,
car
sharing,
bike,
sharing,
better
bicycle
storage,
so
bikes
don't
get
stolen.
You
have
them
completely:
enclosed
increased
carpooling
things.
Like
scooters,
you
know
greater
mass
transit
adoption,
which
you
know
it's
kind
of
still
Boise's
working
on
that,
and
so
you
know,
because
Boise
has
created
this
very
walkable
and
bikeable
town
I.
Think
we
should
do
our
best
to
take
the
cars
off
within
the
city
of
Boise
I.
Think
there
are
numerous
areas
where
construction
can
be
done
without
parking.
AE
You
know,
I
think
that
development
should
be
encouraged.
One
intriguing
option
would
be
to
to
link
that
zero
parking
minimum
with
affordable
housing
right
now,
I
think
there's
a
proposal.
That's
50
off
if
you
gave
100
off
for
parking
but
have
the
requirement
of
affordable
housing,
you're
really
killing
two
birds
with
one
stone
at
that
point:
you're
getting
affordable
housing
and
you're
taking
cars
off
the
road
and
to
me,
that's
you're,
marrying
two
very
I
think
important
things
that
we
should
consider
as
the
zoning
code,
changes
and
I.
AE
Think
that
you
know
any
increased
affordability
with
less
cars
is
a
huge
win
for
Boise.
Thanks.
AD
B
Okay
staff
looks
like
a
bunch
of
folks
kind
of
funny.
We
got
like
five
people
online
here,
so
Abigail
Morgan
and
then
Tara
Wolfson
and
then
Philip
Chaffee,
Cameron,
LaFrance
and
David
King.
AR
My
name
is
Abigail
Morgan
I
live
at
1022,
North,
21st,
Street
and,
while
I
am
stabilized
and
in
a
safe
environment
at
this
time,
that
has
not
always
been
the
case,
while
living
in
Boise
I
experienced
homelessness
and
very
insecure
housing
conditions
in
the
recent
past,
which
really
limited
my
ability
to
contribute
meaningfully
to
this
beautiful
Community,
similar
to
many
earlier
comments,
I
believe
that
we
need
accessible,
affordable
housing
and
strategic
density.
AR
A
variety
of
income
levels
to
be
intentionally
built
into
the
fabric
of
our
Boise
community
I
hope
that
future
zoning
code
supports
this
and
I'm
really
excited
to
see
that
it
has
gone
through
the
process.
Additionally,
I
hope
that
the
code
is
able
to
reflect
the
intentionality
in
transit
and
offer
more
safe
mobility.
Beyond
access
to
cars
being
able
to
support
our
bikers,
Walkers
and
other
modes
of
Transit
will
make
us
safer
more
well
connected
and
healthier.
Boise
I
again
appreciate
this
process,
and
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
AR
B
BE
Good
evening
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Tara
Wolfson
and
I
live
at
2202,
North,
18th,
Street
and
I'm
online
today
to
speak
in
support
of
the
modern
zoning
code.
I've
lived
in
Boise
since
2000
and
I
live
a
pretty
idyllic
life
here.
I
can
walk
to
work,
rarely
battle
any
traffic
and
have
great
social
cohesion
and
diverse
friends.
But
I
worry
about
sprawl
a
lot.
BE
I
worry
about
housing
prices
and
want
others
to
have
the
same
opportunities
I
had
we
have
to
do
something
to
make
it
so
I
applaud
the
committee
and
City
for
taking
this
step
to
find
Fair,
practical
and
creative
ways
to
increase
our
housing
opportunities,
including
Workforce
and
low-income
housing,
to
diversify
our
neighborhoods,
to
make
our
city
even
more
livable
and
modern,
and
also
to
recognize
that
we
can't
keep
doing
things
the
way
we
have
been
doing
them
on
a
heating
planet.
We
need
less
cars
in
the
Boise
Valley.
BE
BF
BG
My
name
is
Phil
Chaffey
I
live
at
2155
North
Wilmington
Drive
in
Boise
tonight.
I
want
to
testify
in
strong
support
of
the
zoning
code.
Rewrite
I
was
born
and
raised
here
in
Boise.
My
wife
and
I
are
fortunate
fortunate
to
buy
a
house
in
the
fall
of
2012
before
it
became
one
of
the
least
affordable
housing
markets
in
the
entire
country.
We
understood
when
we
bought
our
house
that
our
property
would
not
be
taxed
up
would
be
taxed
to
help
support
Public
Services
provided
by
the
city.
BG
At
no
time
have
we
ever
been
assured.
Nor
would
we
expect
an
availability
of
subsidized
curbside
parking
vehicles
and
we
were
never
guaranteed,
nor
had
any
expectation
that
our
neighborhood
would
remain
unchanged
in
perpetuity.
Well,
I
would
refer
to
get
rid
of
all
partner.
Minimum
requirements
allow
more
residential
density
throughout
the
city.
I
applaud
the
work
done
by
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
to
find
a
milligram
between
those
who
purchased
their
homes
when
housed
it
was
cheap
and
those
who
are
desperate
to
find
a
place
to
live
in
a
community
that
allows
work.
Black
balance.
BG
I
am
encouraged,
but
that
this
plan
will
ease
restrictions
and
allow
small
commercial
developments
like
cafes
to
enjoy
a
more
Hyde
park-like
field
throughout
the
city
as
an
underwriter
real
estate
loans
in
the
Pacific
Northwest
I
have
seen
firsthand
impact
that
increased
supply
of
units
have
had
on
a
pine
downward
pressure
on
leasing,
rent
rates
I
believe
this
code
does
encourage
additional
housing
supply
for
a
market
which
should
slow
the
rise
in
in
rent
rates
across
the
city
and
allow
for
more
natural
development,
which
will
be
a
major
step
towards
addressing
our
current
housing.
Emergency.
BG
Well
I
agree
with
some
opponents
that
don't
change
that.
Ideally,
we
would
add
additional
deed
restrictions
for
affordable,
well
housing
in
exchange
for
allowed
increased
density,
slash
height
allowances,
I
understand,
based
on
your
statements.
There
are
legal
complications
with
this
approach.
I
would
hate
for
the
Perfection
to
be
the
enemy
of
improvement
from
artists,
current
zoning
standards.
Looking
at
crosster
Nation,
we
find
the
least
affordable.
BG
Finally,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
and
city
of
Boise
for
your
efforts
to
inform
the
citizens
of
Boise
that
this
zoning
code
rewrite
was
happening.
I've
seen
news
coverage,
read
stories
and
newspapers
and
received
emails,
some
notices
along
Pathways
and
even
saw
a
printout
of
the
code
of
my
local
library.
Thank
you
for
your
efforts
in
making
this
an
inclusive
process
and
for
your
time
here
tonight.
Thank
you.
BH
Terrible
friends
I
live
at
11213
Camas
street
I'm,
a
student
at
Treasure,
Valley,
Math
and
Science
Center.
Here
in
Boise,
Idaho
I've
been
worried
about
the
effects
that
the
zoning
code
rewrite
will
have
on
my
future
and
the
future
of
my
generation
I've
seen
the
Idaho
power's
goal
is
to
use
100
green
energy
sources
by
2045.
BH
when
I
talked
to
an
Idaho
Power
representative,
he
told
me
that,
with
the
influx
of
people
that
are
coming
to
my
home
city
of
Boise,
that
we
may
not
be
able
to
reach
our
goal
in
time,
approximately
53
percent
of
the
electricity
that
we
are
currently
using
is
non-renewable.
That
number
will
continue
to
go
up
if
we
identify
our
city
too
much
and
strain
our
power
grid
Beyond
its
capacity
I'm
concerned
about
the
effects
of
climate
change
on
my
generation
and
the
impact
it
will
have
on
this
community.
BH
This
certainly
won't
allow
us
to
achieve
mayor
McLean's
climate
change
goal
to
reach
carbon
neutral
by
2050..
Moreover,
densification
may
lead
to
the
loss
of
natural
ecosystems
in
the
city,
which
can
can
have
a
far-reaching
effects
on
the
environment
and
the
well-being
of
its
inhabitants.
It
is
essential
to
strike
a
balance
between
urban
development
and
Environmental
Conservation
to
ensure
that
both
humans
and
other
organisms
can
coexist
in
a
healthy
and
sustainable
manner.
BH
If
you
reduce
the
open
space
requirements,
we
we
lose
space
for
trees
and
grass
that
are
crucial
carbon
sinks
to
help
with
sustainable
goals.
For
the
future,
we
should
require
certain
things
from
developers
that
should
be
required
to
plant
a
certain
number
of
trees
based
on
the
area
of
each
building.
If
they
can't
find
them
at
that
location,
then
they
should
pay
the
city
a
fee
to
plant
them
at
an
undeveloped
Park.
They
should
install
solar
panels
on
new
buildings
or
pay
Idaho
Power
for
clean
renewable
energy
sources
to
be
purchased.
BH
If
a
building
will
create
higher
traffic
counts,
then
developers
should
help
Ada
County
to
build
the
proper
sized
roads
and
bike
lanes
for
their
buildings.
So
they
don't
have
to
create
worse
traffic
conditions.
There
should
be
guidelines
in
the
code
for
you
to
reject
the
development
and
traffic
counts
if
traffic
counts
will
cause
problems.
It
is
vital
that
we
consider
the
long-term
implications
of
our
decisions
and
take
a
comprehensive
approach
to
urban
planning.
We
need
to
prioritize
the
well-being
of
the
environment
and
future
Generations
alongside
Economic
Development
growth.
BH
AF
Good
evening
Commissioners,
and
thank
you
for
your
hard
work
and
all
your
hard
work
going
and
everything
you
do.
I'm
David,
King
I
live
at
10064
Mill
Creek
Drive
in
Boise,
I
am
on
the
board
of
the
South
Coal
neighborhood
association
I'm,
the
chairman
of
the
Boise
Parks
Association,
president
of
friends
of
magurdio
Park
and
I'm.
A
Rescue
Mission,
volunteer
and
I
can
say
firsthand
the
sobriety
and
Mental
Health
Care
are
what
are
necessary
to
address
homelessness,
certainly
not
more
construction
of
more
units.
AF
First
I
would
like
and
I
oppose
the
zoning
code.
Rewrite
I'd
like
to
address
the
fundamental
unfairness
of
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
the
rewrite
divides
Boise
into
the
Haves
and
the
have-nots.
There
are
sections
of
town
that
are
exempt
from
this
Sub
Zone
and
those
are
the
wealthy
and
politically
powerful
areas.
AF
Here,
it's
it's
impossible
to
think
that
when
the
airport
or
the
Parks
and
Recreation
submits
something
to
poicy,
but
the
the
planning
department
that
colleagues
who
are
just
enjoying
coffee
together
in
the
break
room
are
going
to
get
a
thorough
review
of
their
projects.
That's
not
something
that
they
dare
address
in
this
just
rewrite.
AF
AN
B
Sorry,
Mr
King.
That
was
your
time:
okay
up
next
Bethany,
Martinez,
Ellen,
camfield,
Nelson
and
then
Terry
Wilson.
S
Hello,
my
name
is
Bethany
Martinez
I
live
at
1134,
West,
River,
Street
and
I'm
here
to
express
my
support
for
the
modern
zoning
code.
Read
write
with
some
reservations.
I
have
a
unique
perspective
because
on
February
14th,
my
current
residence
was
approved
to
be
rezoned
and
demolished
to
make
way
for
a
four-story
apartment.
Building
on
Ashen
River
I
was
pleased
to
see
that
the
new
code
provides
some
protection
for
tenants
such
as
myself,
including
120-day
notice
of
planned
Demolition
and
financial
reimbursement
of
two
months,
rent,
which
we,
the
latter
we
did
not
receive.
S
However,
my
fear
arises
from
the
provision
in
the
code
that
allow
Property
Owners
to
apply
for
waivers
to
the
affordable
housing
requirements
in
certain
circumstances,
such
as,
if
compliance
would
cause
an
undue
financial
burden.
This
concern
stems
from
what
I
heard
council
members
saying
when
they
approve
the
decision
to
rezone
my
current
residence.
For
a
background,
the
current
dwelling
has
16
units,
so
Under
This
Modern
zoning
rewrite
the
developer
would
have
had
to
include
16,
affordable
units
at
80
Ami.
S
That's
very
concerning
to
hear
them
say
this
about
this
modern
zoning
code.
Then,
on
April
5th,
a
city
council
meeting
was
held
to
amend
the
rezone
and
include
15
affordable
units
instead
of
13..
When
the
developer
spoke,
he
said,
city
council
had
two
options:
one
keep
their
decision
on
February
14th
and
get
13,
affordable
units
or
delay
the
project
until
the
new
zoning
code
is
in
place
and
likely
not
get
any
affordable
units.
S
This
showed
developments,
hand
for
how
they
plan
to
act
under
this
new
zoning
code.
This
concerns
me
as
I
am
moving
this
week
actually
down
the
road
three
blocks
away
and
likely
we'll
face
a
similar
issue
in
the
near
future
council
member
wooding's
statement
at
the
end
of
the
April
5th
meeting
regarding
preserving
existing,
affordable
housing
is
appreciated,
but
the
loophole
of
undue
financial
burden
must
not
let
the
developers
avoid
providing
affordable
housing.
This
is
something
I
urge
you
all
to
look
at
since
our
own
council
members
didn't
appear
confident
that
this.
AQ
A
C
BI
Thank
you
very
much
Commissioners.
My
name
is
Ellen
Campfield
Nelson
I
live
at
323
West
rescue
Street
I
work
at
802,
West,
Bannock
Street
in
downtown
Boise
I'm,
a
small
business
owner
I've
lived
here
for
about
15
years
and
I'm
a
certified
professional
planner.
With
about
20
years.
Experience
I've
also
been
privileged
to
work
on
with
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
in
Boise
and
with
the
city
itself
over
the
years
on
neighborhood
plans,
open
space
and
Recreation
lands
and
other
related
efforts
and
I'm.
BI
One
is
that
this
is
a
complicated
process
that
many
cities
Undertake
and
fail
at,
and
it's
it's
very
exciting
that
we
are
at
this
point
in
this
process
and
I
just
want
to
thank
the
city's
planners
and
public
servants
and
all
of
you
for
carrying
the
water
for
so
long
and
having
a
very
thorough
process
that
has
resulted
in
what
I
think
is
a
values-based
code
that
maintains
the
boys
that
we
love
and
helps
create
the
Boise
that
we
want.
BI
I
also
just
want
to
urge
you
to
continue
to
do
what
I
think
all
Civic
leaders
in
this
time
need
to
do
a
meeting,
a
time
that
we're
in
a
very
serious
housing
crisis
and
other
kinds
of
planning,
climate
issue
crises
and
just
be
brave
in
your
decisions.
In
my
20
years
of
planning,
there
are
common
arguments
that
are
brought
up
to
keep
communities
kind
of
locked
in
this
endless
cycle
of
kind
of
an
auto-centric
housing
monoculture.
C
BI
B
Thank
you,
Terry
Wilson,.
R
All
right,
thank
you
good
evening
and
thanks
for
letting
me
have
this
opportunity
to
share
my
perspective.
I
live
on
the
bench
at
1630,
South
Rand
in
the
Borah
neighborhood
I
believe
this
coding
zoning
rewrite
will
create
a
more
Vibrant,
Community
and
Economic
Opportunity
he's
our
need
for
cars
and
ease
the
housing
crisis
that
we're
all
facing
here,
and
it
will
impact
the
well-being,
the
people
in
the
fabric
of
our
community,
so
I'm
in
full
support.
R
I've
lived
in
various
cities
around
the
country
and
around
the
world,
from
suburban
sprawl
to
dense,
vibrant
neighborhoods
and
from
those
experiences
and
having
lived
here
in
Boise
for
13
years.
I
know
that
this
update
of
the
zoning
code
will
make
this
city
a
better
place
for
all
the
things
that
I've
seen
and
I've
experienced
in
more
dense
neighborhoods
has
been
more
positive.
It
has
eased
my
Reliance
on
using
automobiles
being
able
to
walk
to
a
neighborhood
store
a
corner
market
to
get
my
Necessities.
R
The
resources
that
I'm
fortunate
enough
to
have
access
to
and
I
reduced,
my
Reliance
on
having
to
use
a
car
in
many
of
those
situations
that
I
live
and
reduce
the
financial
burden
that
that
brings
upon
having
to
rely
on
a
vehicle
and
so
having
a
more
dense,
neighborhood
I
believe,
will
help
create
this
opportunity,
I
think
for
more
people
and
also
provide
opportunities
for
small
businesses
to
be
more
closer
to
some
of
their
constituents
or
their
individuals.
There.
R
Marketing
their
product
to
having
more
housing
options
for
people
who
want
to
live
in
Boise
will
also
strengthen
the
ability
for
businesses
to
attract
a
Workforce
to
that
to
fill
many
of
the
vacancies
that
we
see
all
around
our
community,
and
some
of
that
has
some
positive
impacts
of
increasing
wages,
but
attracting
some
more
of
that
Workforce
will
help
fill
in
and
help.
R
Many
of
the
services
that
we
rely
on
in
creating
this
more
dense
neighborhood
will
also
allow
us
to
protect
the
Foothills
from
sprawl
having
lived
in
Suburban
Chicagoland
area
and
seeing
that
sprawl
expand,
remove
wetlands
and
nature
area
to
accommodate
housing
because
of
some
of
the
zoning
code.
R
Limited
our
access
to
Nature
and
we're
very
fortunate
here
in
Boise
to
be
able
to
easily
get
to
the
Foothills
to
get
out
into
the
desert
and
to
do
those
and
I
look
out
in
that
when
we
get
to
the
edge
of
town
and
I
know,
if
we're
not
able
to
change
the
zoning
code,
that
will
end
up
sprawling
further
and
further
and
it'll
be
houses.
As
far
as
we
can
see.
R
I
also
want
to
be
part
of
the
solution
here
and
and
offer
housing
options
for
new
residents
here
to
Boise
too,
as
well.
In
the
current
zoning
policy,
I
cannot
add
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
to
my
property,
but
in
the
new
rewrite,
I
will
be
able
to
do
that
if
I
choose
to
do
that
and
make
that
investment
and
be
able
to
support
more
individuals
looking
for
affordable
housing,
which
I
hope
to
be
able
to
provide
for
more
people.
R
BJ
Hi
Ed
McCluskey
BSU,
professor
emeritus
and
Fulbright
scholar
residing
at
1919,
Vernal,
Lane,
Boise
I,
have
three
themes:
up:
zoning
public
engagement
and
the
180
day
plus
delay.
Monday
gave
us
a
wholesale
denunciation
meant
to
make
it
relevant.
200
UPS
own
critics,
a
rebuke
spiced
with
an
ironic
projection
of
ghosting
painted
on
them.
Then
a
mini
lecture
claimed
to
Define
upzoning,
while
a
wider
epistemic
professional
Community
doesn't
buy
it.
So
I
give
you
the
world
bank's
definition,
up
zoning
changes,
zoning
requirements
to
allow
higher
value
more
dense
use
by
increasing
fars
functional
area
requirements.
BJ
Thus
up
zoning
applies
to
existing
zones
as
much
to
rezones,
like
r2s,
moved
from
35
to
45
feet.
Zoning
downward,
say
R2
back
to
35
feet
reduces
fars
a
down
zoning
that
some
cities
have
done
with
regrets
for
having
upzone
key
World
Bank
quote
as
with
density
bonuses.
This
up
zoning
is
a
financing
tool
to
incentivize
developers
in
the
private
sector
to
capture
gains
by
increasing
allowable
density.
So
up
zoning
is
about
all
increased
density
plans,
but
it
is
fundamentally
about
financial
capitalization.
BJ
Public
engagement
is
a
misleading
term
from
a
well-funded
industry
whose
strategies
and
tactics
aim
to
manage
and
control
public
demands
for
recognition
and
participation,
using
outsourced,
Consulting,
Enterprises,
PR
and
Commercial
groups.
To
that
end,
this
coalesced
industry
tries
to
legitimize
claims
to
public
participation,
but
it
does
the
opposite
and
with
already
weakened
public
spheres.
Public
concerns
fold
into
largely
unaltered
outcomes
like
the
U.S
industry
in
general,
specious
claims
about
communication,
dialogue,
deliberation
and
transparency,
Prevail
skewed
toward
control
and
management
of
the
public.
BJ
Its
data
Gathering
misses
too
much
while
posing
engagement
as
though
public
stamps
of
approval
had
occurred
with
International
Scholars
known
to
analyze,
the
uses
and
abuses
of
managed
public
engagement.
I
unpack
this
in
a
referee
Journal
article
to
be
published
late
summer,
you
asked
what
would
be
done
with
180
day
delay
or
more.
Any
rewrite
deserves
better
sourced,
less
myopic
research
with
no
gun,
jumping
conclusions
demonizing
those
Nas
that
didn't
get
the
memo
to
respond,
create
that
time
to
respond
thoroughly
and
to
offer
Alternatives.
BJ
Finally,
without
the
city
council
fully
and
duly
elected
a
vote
recommending,
this
rewrite
will
undemocratically
ghost
the
public
further
eroding
public
trust
and
legitimacy.
Don't
break
democracy
by
recommending
this
rewrite
for
now
thoughtfully
review
what
our
citizens
criticize
about
this
up,
Zone
their
wisdom
and
expertise,
are
vital
to
the
health
of
this
community.
Thank
you.
I
B
We're
right
here,
Lauren,
penisi
and
then
Bud
comfort
and
then
we're
on
break.
Okay,
all.
BL
BL
Hi
there
I
need
to
share
my
screen.
Is
that
possible.
BL
BL
I
want
to
talk
about
the
West
End
Neighborhood,
in
particular,
about
two
streets,
Idaho
here
and
Bannock,
between
19th
and
27th,
as
I
mentioned,
when
I
testified
for.
BL
B
BL
B
BL
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
All
right,
I
wanted
to
talk
about
two
streets,
in
particular
in
the
West
End
Neighborhood
between
19th
and
27th,
Idaho
and
Bannock.
These
are
right
here.
These
are
zoned
are
three.
BL
BL
Of
here
so
my
concern
and
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
the
West
End
does
have
a
rich
history.
It's
been
documented
not
only
with
this
by
the
city,
but
also
the
Idaho
State
preservation,
Society
or
organization,
and
the
Hawks
long
into
Bannock
are
a
little
over.
70
of
them
are
scheduled
to
be
on
the
national
District
and
the
free
zone.
Yeah.
B
So
if
there,
maybe,
if
you,
if
you
stop
your
screen
share
and
if
you
could
just
maybe
do
an
oral
testimony.
BL
B
C
BM
Good
evening,
chairman
and
our
fellow
Commissioners,
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
My
name
is
Bud
Comfort
Jr
I
reside
in
8825
Middleton
I'm
here,
representing
as
the
CEO
of
neighborworks
Boise,
and
our
address
here
is
3380
West
Americana
Terrace
in
Boise,
so
neighborworks
is
a
501c3
non-profit,
community-minded,
affordable
housing
developer
who
served
the
Treasure
Valley
for
the
past
41
years.
We
provide
an
array
of
Housing
Services
from
home
buyer
education,
down
payment
assistance
through
our
non-profit
lending
arm.
BM
But
tonight
I'd
like
to
speak
to
you
on
behalf
of
our
affordable
housing
Services,
where
we
help
families
obtain,
retain
and
maintain
their
home
I'm
here
to
show
support
of
the
updated
building
zoning
codes.
The
updated
codes
before
you
tonight
help
set
a
blueprint
for
smart
growth
and
the
opportunity
for
us
to
grow
wisely.
BM
The
updated
plans
responsibly
support
the
future
goals
for
City
Alignment
and
the
transit
oriented
housing,
specifically
corridors
used
by
our
community
and
the
employment
centers.
The
vision
fits
well
with
what
neighborworks
built
those
last
within
our
mission
for
the
last
10
years,
we
have
developed,
single-family
or
home
ownership
within
what
we
call
our
pocket
neighborhood
concept.
BM
Our
pocket,
neighborhoods
work
to
respect
housing,
diversity
and
within
the
communities
that
we're
building
in
respect
the
architecture
around
us.
This
integrated
approach
to
the
way
we
develop
our
land,
improves
public
transit
reduction
and
commute
Times
by
building
close
to
Transit
oriented
corridors
and
enhances
walkability
increases
the
social
interaction
for
our
residents.
Secondly,
time
density
incentives
to
requirements
for
affordable
and
sustainable
housing.
While
this
plan
will
not
meet
every
need,
it
does
provide
a
framework
for
that
encourages,
affordable
housing,
which
is
a
huge
step
forward.
BM
As
you
all
know,
the
community
needs
assessment
that
was
released,
identified,
spoiler
alert,
housing
is
the
number
one
need,
and
all
of
us
today
grew
up
for
the
most
I
should
say.
Most
of
us
today,
woke
up
into
a
house
woke
up
in
a
home,
had
a
home,
and
we
will
go
home
too
this
evening
in
a
home,
homes
are
where
Jobs
go
to
sleep
at
night
and
I'm
here
to
just
strongly
support
your
recommendation
for
this
moving
forward
to
the
city
council.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
B
Staff
I
think
do
we
have
Lauren
panisi
back
online.
It
looks
like
maybe
we
do
Mr.
A
Chair
yes,
she's
online
I
give
her
the
phone
number
and
then
Lauren.
If
you
can
hear
me,
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
share
your
pictures
quickly
enough.
Okay,.
A
AC
B
B
She
was
the
last
one
that
signed
up
ahead
of
time
on
our
list.
Now
we're
two
folks
signed
up
here
in
person
this
evening,
Jim
Kaufman.
B
Okay,
Daniel
Drake.
B
Then
Jerry
Graves,
Jody,
Peterson,
Jerry,
okay,
then
Jody
Peterson
and
then
Karen
Polk,
hemsalk,
yeah
I'm.
Next
right.
AC
AC
Hi
there
Danny
Drake
Interfaith
sanctuary.
AC
I
guess
I,
don't
really
know
what
to
say,
because
I've
been
a
resident
here
and
a
taxpayer
for
12
years
and
I've
been
kind
of
chasing
the
same
fight
working
trying
to
get
advancements
trying
to
get
enough
money
to
get
a
place,
that's
affordable
or
whatever
that
looks
like
and
really
I
guess
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
for
the
zoning
this
this
whole
thing
contingent
on.
AC
You
know
like
follow-up
really
and
just
transparency
where
we
can
see
where
it's
going
and
how
it's
affecting
our
community
and
I've
been
here
a
long
time
and
I'm
kind
of
tired.
You
know
and
I
would
love
to
see
housing
for
everybody,
because
I
think
housing
is
a
right
and
luxury
luxury
is
a
privilege
after
housing
is,
you
know,
established
as
a
right,
so
that's
really
all
I
got
to
say.
Thank
you,
okay!
Thank
you.
B
Jerry
Graves
and
Jay
Peterson
and
Karen,
and
then
Betty
Berman
solo.
C
BN
Short
to
talk,
my
name
is
Jerry
Graves
I'm,
one
of
the
homeless
community
and
I'm
representing
the
community,
so
I
I
I've
been
listening
to
what
everybody
said
and
I'm
I
think
I'm
going
to
go
a
different
route
with
this,
because
I
don't
want
to
reiterate
what
everybody's
been
saying.
I
grew
up
here.
Right,
I
support
this
modern
zoning
code.
For
the
very
reason
many
of
us
do
I'm
not
going
to
rehash.
What's
already
been
said.
Instead,
I'm
going
to
like
I,
said,
I
purchase
a
different
way.
BN
I
grew
up
here,
just
outside
of
downtown.
There
were
horse
and
cattle
pastures
a
dirt
road
through
the
middle
of
Meridian.
My
uncle
was
the
co-owner
of
Merrell's
Egg
farm.
We
used
to
ride
our
horses
out
back
of
his
house.
I
lived
in
a
haunted
house
on
Manitou
Street
went
to
school
here,
have
my
kids
here
and
they
give
back
to
the
community
just
like
I
do
so.
BN
We
knew
with
everything.
That's
been.
You
know
that
we
had
when
we
were
growing
up
here.
We
knew
that
there
was
going
to
be
an
influx
of
people
that
were
going
to
come
because
we
couldn't
keep
it
a
secret
forever,
but
I
knew
that
we
had
the
heart
and
the
will
and
the
room
to
welcome
everybody
and
I'm
I'm
surprised,
I'm,
not
hearing
more
of
that,
and
it
feels
I'm
disabled,
so
I'm
on
a
fix.
I,
don't
have
an
income
right
now.
BN
Hopefully,
I'll
have
one
soon,
but
I've
paid
into
my
taxes
and
my
disability
and
my
Social
Security
and
now
all
of
a
sudden
I'm
without
a
home,
because
there
is
nothing
here,
that's
affordable,
especially
when
you're
coming
out
of
I
was
co-parenting
with
my
ex,
and
so
he
moved
to
Oregon
and
I
was
left
without
any
savings
and
all
I
really
wanted
to
be
was
a
mom.
And
so
once
my
kids,
graduated
I
didn't
have
an
income.
BN
I
didn't
have
a
savings
to
rely
on,
and
then
my
body
fell
apart
and
had
we
had
more
adequate
housing.
I
think
I
would
be
okay
and
I'm.
Not
now
I'm
now
I'm
having
to
run
around
and
do
things
like.
You
know
stay
warm
in
the
winter
and
find
some
air
conditioning
in
in
the
summer,
and
while
my
body
is
falling
apart
meeting
all
these
doctor's
appointments
and
taking
all
this
medication
I
just
think
there's
room
enough
for
everybody
here
and
we
always
thought
that
way.
BN
Growing
up
here
we
welcomed
everybody
with
open
arms.
I.
Don't
know
why!
All
of
a
sudden,
we
want
to
close
the
floodgates
and
act
like
people
have
a
right
to
keep
everyone
else
out,
because
we
weren't
that
way
and
that's
clear
back
in
the
70s,
you
know
or
late
60s
early
70s,
so
we
were
here
quite
a
while
and
we
welcomed
everybody
so
I
wish
I.
The
only
thing
I
want
to
ask
is
maybe
give
me
the
same.
BN
B
BO
Hello
Commissioners
first
I'll,
give
you
the
address
for
Interfaith
at
1620,
West,
River,
Street,
I'm,
Jody,
Peterson,
stigers
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
interface,
sanctuary
and
I
actually
am
going
to
speak
on
behalf
of
our
population
that
we
serve
so
I'm
going
to
use
1620
West
River
Street
is
my
address
as
well.
If
that's
okay
I
wanted
to
share
with
you,
there
was
an
author
who
came
to
town.
His
name
was
Greg
Coburn
and
he
wrote
a
book
that
is
called.
BO
Homelessness
is
a
housing
problem
and
the
book
opens
up
with
an
analogy
of
a
game
of
musical
chairs
and
there's
10
people
invited
to
this
party
and
there's
10
chairs
and
the
host
turns
on
the
music
and
as
the
music's
playing
and
everyone's
running
around
the
chairs.
The
host
takes
one
of
the
chairs
away
and
when
he
stops
the
music
everyone
scrambles
to
get
to
a
chair,
but
there's
only
nine
chairs
and
there's
ten
people
and
one
of
those
people's
on
crutches.
But
it's
not
his
fault.
BO
There
just
wasn't
a
chair
for
him.
He
is
a
man
without
a
chair
because
there
wasn't
enough
chairs
and
what
Greg
cobram
was
trying
to
show
us
is
that,
as
you
walked
through
our
city,
he
was
like.
This
is
amazing
visually.
You
cannot
really
see
a
homelessness
issue
here
yet,
but
you
guys
are
set
up
to
be
next
you're.
The
next
Portland
you're,
the
next
Seattle,
because
you
don't
have
vacancy
in
your
home
prices
and
your
rentals
are
so
high.
You
have
to
get
your
housing
up.
BO
Anyways,
it's
creating
diversity,
it's
allowing
people
to
be
able
to
walk
to
their
coffee
shop
and
all
different
parts,
not
just
Hyde
Park,
not
just
the
lust
is
just
those
everyone
wants
to
live.
That
way,
though,
and
you
know
what
the
guests
at
my
shelter,
they
want
a
home.
They
want
to
get
out
of
my
shelter
they're
doing
everything
they
possibly
can
they
go
to
work.
BO
Jerry's
trying
to
get
disabilities
she's
been
trying
to
find
a
lawyer
who
can
take
her
she's,
disabled
and
the
system's
broken,
and
she
lives
in
a
hotel
shelter
when
she
used
to
live
in
a
house
in
Hyde,
Park
she's,
a
sewer
she's,
so
talented,
she's,
a
writer
and
Karen
they
all
they
all
work.
They
all
do
all
these
things,
and
yet,
like
day
after
day,
we're
trying
to
find
the
access
for
them,
because
it's
not
their
fault
but
they're
being
treated
like
it's
their
fault,
but
this
rewrite.
BO
It
opens
up
the
doors
it
equalizes.
It
gives
Equity
it's
inclusive.
It
allows
diversity
in
all
neighborhoods,
which
is
how
we're
supposed
to
live
anyway.
So
I
guess
you
can
tell
I'm
a
huge
Enthusiast
when
it
comes
to
this
rewrite
and
I
absolutely
support
it
and
I.
Thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
and
to
the
city
staff
for
doing
this
work
we're
on
the
right
track.
I
know
it.
Thank
you.
BP
BK
Evening,
can
you
hear
me
okay,
yeah.
My
address
is
also
Interfaith
Sanctuary,
1620,
West,
River,
Street
and
I'm
just
going
to
be
short
and
sweet.
I'm
78.
I've
been
homeless
for
unhoused,
whichever
you
prefer
for
three
years,
I've
been
looking
in
three
different
states
and
for
two
years
I've
been
looking
in
Boise
and
I'm.
A
fixed
social
security
income
I'm,
not
disabled,
I,
am
doing
volunteer,
work,
I.
BK
Think
of
all
the
cities
that
I've
lived
in,
including
a
wonderful
City
in
Norway,
where
everything
worked
where
you
didn't
need
a
car
where
everybody
knew
each
other,
where
the
schools
were
fantastic,
where
jobs
were
plentiful,.
BK
BK
I
think
you're,
as
Jody
said,
the
world
and
Boise
are
on
the
cusp
of
what's
going
to
come
and
you
can't
plan
soon
enough
for
it
and
I
appreciate
you
giving
me
this
chance
to
speak
my
mind.
My
truth
and
I
really
hope
that
this
comes
through
a
it's
a
really
good,
modernization
approach.
AM
B
So
Miss
penisi,
can
you
hear
us.
BI
BI
B
E
Good
okay,
Lauren
Tennessee,
2411,
West,
Pleasanton
Ave.
What
I
was
starting
to
show?
You
was
the
proposed
DCR
map
for
two
streets
in
my
neighborhood,
which
is
the
West
End
between
19th
and
27th
Street.
Those
two
blocks
are
zoned
R3
and
with
the
zoning
code
we
write.
It
allows
those
two
streets
to
now
be
high
density,
which
means
they
can
have
43
and
a
half
units
per
acre
with
a
maximum
height
of
45
feet,
and
this
is
important
because
there
is
a
property
on
2502
Bannock,
and
this
is
the
picture.
E
I
wanted
to
show
it's
a
single
family
home
that
a
developer
out
of
state
developer
bought
a
few
years
ago
and
at
that
time,
under
the
old
code,
he
was
allowed
to
build
up
to
12
units
and
scaled
back
to
five.
Now,
with
this
zoning
code,
we
write
he's
going
to
be
allowed
to
build.
Possibly
it's
a
half
I
think
it's
about
a
half
an
acre.
E
So
does
that
mean
he's
going
to
be
able
to
build
up
to
potentially
20
units
at
45
feet
high
and
how
does
that
preserve
the
character
or
the
uniqueness
of
our
neighborhood?
So
I
think
there's
a
discrepancy
with
how
that
those
two
streets
in
particular
are
zoned.
If
you
look
at
how
north
of
State
Street
is
zoned
and
the
pattern
of
R2
and
r1c,
how
that
is
our
neighborhood
is
this:
has
the
same?
History
has
the
same
character,
but
yet
is
zoned
completely
different.
E
That
kind
of
shows-
and
that
was
another
picture
I
wanted
to
show
that
shows
a
three-story
multi-family
complex
next
to
a
single
family
home.
The
first
two
stories
are
right
up
against
the
single
family
home
and
the
third
story
has
the
wedding
cake
effect,
but
you
can
still
see
that
it
Towers
over
the
single
family
home
and
that's
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
R3,
especially
on
those
two
streets,
not
to
me.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Miss
Pacey
appreciate
that,
okay,
back
to
the
focus
in
person,
I
think
it's
is
it
Bonnie
crook.
B
No
okay,
Matt
Clark.
BQ
BQ
I
support
the
city's
efforts
to
modernize
our
zoning
code.
I
believe
that
the
process
conducted
for
the
last
three
years
has
been
transparent,
deliberate
and
guided
by
genuine
efforts
to
find
solutions
that
work
for
Boise
any
suggestions
to
slow
down
the
process
or
wait
until
the
election
are
just
talking
points
crafted
by
people
who
want
to
obstruct
the
change.
BQ
At
the
end
of
the
day,
what
matters
is
that
there
are
enough
homes
for
my
friends,
my
siblings,
my
co-workers
and
the
other
essential
people
that
make
Boise
function
if
neighborhoods
are
missing
important
options
like
duplexes,
fourplexes
or
apartments.
That
neighborhood
is
then
exclusive
exclusion
is
what
creates
a
segregated
City,
not
density,
I
support
the
proposed
codes
effort
to
prevent
sprawl
and
focus
on
directing
development.
BQ
Where
we
have
planned
public
investment,
we
can
either
build
a
sprawling
City
that
will
forever
be
inefficient
and
expensive
to
serve
with
transit,
or
we
can
build
a
compact
City
that
sets
us
up
to
be
Transit
ready
and
makes
it
easier
for
people
to
choose
to
drive
less
and
drive
less
far.
Thank
you.
BF
Thank
you.
I
also
want
to
speak
quickly
in
support
of
modernizing
the
zoning
code,
just
on
two
main
points.
First
of
all,
I
think
that
it
does
a
really
great
job
of
preventing
sprawl
into
the
Foothills
I.
B
BR
BR
So
a
lot
of
language
around
the
idea
that
it
sucks
and
I
don't
think
that's
been
the
truth,
because
otherwise,
when
we
were
right
so
three
minutes
three
points:
streets,
blueprint
and
some
fairy
dust
so
streets.
The
code,
600
Pages,
doesn't
have
anything
that
addresses
the
uniqueness
of
streets
in
Boise
and
I
live
on.
Just
such
a
street,
pretty
unique.
It's
paid
25
feet
wide.
It's
with
outside
walks,
curbs
or
gutters.
There
are
open
irrigation,
ditches,
large
trees
and
my
neighbors,
we
all
like
it.
BR
This
way
it's
kind
of
a
country
feel
minding
a
lot
to
my
street
are
large
and
the
plan
would
basically
wreck
the
street
as
it's
presently
set
up
with
the
neighborhood
feel
and
several
Lots
could
accommodate
12,
Plex
and
I
verified
this
with
city
planners.
BR
BR
The
blueprint
Tim's
presentation
on
Monday,
the
slides
slides
are
great,
not
too
many,
which,
for
me,
sort
of
meant
that
the
ones
that
he
gave
must
be
really
important
and
so
I
think
you
guys
should
go
check
those
out
again
one
in
particular.
Why
are
we
amending
the
current
zoning
code
and
I
found
the
language
that
he
had
on
that
slide
in
the
blueprint?
So
what
sucks
for
me
is
that
the
rest
of
the
paragraph
wasn't
included
that
he
pulled
that
out
of
from
the
blueprint
and
I'm
kind
of
wondering.
BR
BR
The
city
will
review
and
update
existing
regulations
to
ensure
new
housing
types
are
consistent
with
the
community.
The
community
character
for
each
neighborhood
provide
providing
for
design
characteristics
that
fit
into
existing
neighborhoods.
So
back
to
my
street
at
25,
feet
kind
of
can't
see
how
we're
going
to
do
that.
B
BS
Thank
you
for
allowing
this
time
to
testify
and
I
really
like
the
way
that
this
meeting's
been
run.
We've
got
a
great
chairman,
who's
really
doing
a
good
job,
as
the
rest
of
you
are
too
I.
BI
BS
You
know
I
think,
as
we've
been
here,
the
testimony
is
shown
different
views,
understandings
interpretations
of
this
600
page
200,
000,
word
plan.
This
is
supposed
to
be
one
of
the
biggest
decisions
this
City's
made
in
60
years,
but
there
hasn't
been
the
direct
contact
in
the
explanatory
information
that
I
think
people
need.
BS
The
website
has
no
executive
summary.
There
are
no
facts
which
are
frequently
asked
questions
it'd
be
wonderful
to
have
that
on
there
with
maybe
30
or
40
of
the
questions
have
been
asked
here
and
discussed,
and
the
answers
there's
no
explanation,
simple.
You
know
a
one
page
or
two-page
explanation.
If
you
live
in
an
r1c.
This
is
what
can
happen.
This
is
what
happens
if
you're
300
feet
near
a
collector,
no
explanation,
even
of
what
a
collector
arterial
is
and
I
know.
Everybody
involved
in
this
knows
all
that
stuff.
BS
But
I
can
tell
you
out
there.
They
don't
I've
been
as
I've.
Had
a
number
of
people
ask
me
questions
and
I
can't
answer
direct
contact,
achd,
remodeled
or
re
redesigned
Kootenay
Street.
They
had
at
least
three
general
public
meetings
at
our
Red
Rock,
Christian,
Church.
I.
Think
about
75
people
attended,
and
the
reason
is,
is
that
they
sent
individual
cards
to
the
entire
neighborhood.
BS
BS
So
I
really
didn't
know
a
lot
about
this
I
still
don't
even
after
listening
to
two
or
three
days
of
hearings
but
I,
so
I
went
down
to
the
planning
department
on
Tuesday
and
talk
to
a
planner,
and
the
first
planner
that
was
sent
out
wasn't
familiar
enough
with
the
pro
with
the
project,
with
the
plan
to
give
me
that
information
so
and
she's
great
person,
but
she's
in
a
different
different
things.
So
then
the
second
planner
came
out
and
wonderful.
BS
She
she
gave
all
kinds
of
answers
and
very
helpful
and
I'm
out
of
time
on
that
the
other.
The
only
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
was
the
entire
plan.
I
would
like
to
see
some
path
to
ownership.
There's
nothing
about
manufactured
housing,
there's
nothing
about
condos
owner
occupied
condos
in
particular,
and
one
other
one
RVs
RV
parks.
We
don't
have
RV
parks
in
Boise
anymore.
B
BT
BT
The
first
is
that,
despite
multiple
requests,
we
were
never
given
access
to
a
public
interest
attorney
that
could
help
us
understand
Idaho
strategies
for
affordable
housing
or
upholding
the
quality
of
life
policies
in
Blue
Boise.
Instead,
the
final
draft
contained
a
radical
rewrite
of
the
conditional
use
criteria
that
requires
reinterpretation
of
the
entire
document.
BT
BT
The
second
reason
is
that
repeated
requests
for
data
on
whether
curtailing
the
public
process
say
cutting
neighborhood
association.
Testimony
in
half
to
five
minutes
addresses
any
material
bottleneck
to
the
shortage
of
housing.
How
does
this
compare
to
the
many
housing
units
that
have
already
been
entitled,
often
for
years,
but
not
constructed
or
once
built
sit
empty
for
a
year
of
all
the
owner
times
the
market?
BT
This
happened
with
22
Town
House
town
homes,
on
Rose
Street
in
2020,
a
fraction
of
the
development
rezoned
in
2017
from
a
pasture
for
missing
middle
home
ownership
opportunities
eventually
were
packaged
and
sold
as
rentals
construction
on
the
remaining
100
hasn't
even
started
without
data.
We
end
up
relying
on
ideology.
BT
The
prevailing
ideology
is
that
local
people
are
ignorant
and
a
nuisance
and
should
be
pushed
as
far
away
from
meaningful
decision
making
as
possible.
This
leads
to
the
third
reason.
I
joined,
reject
Boise
episode.
Over
the
years,
I
asked
how
our
neighborhood
plans
could
be
strengthened
or
weakened
by
the
rewrite.
I
never
received
any
response,
and
yet
neighborhood
plans
represent
the
closest
expression
of
the
people
in
our
comp
plan,
written
in
concert
with
a
city
at
high
cost
in
labor,
every
Clause
is
vetted
and
often
a
result
of
compromise.
BT
Our
neighborhood
came
to
accept
Transit,
oriented
development
along
State
Street
and
emphasize
the
need
for
safety,
infrastructure,
Pathways
and
Waterway
protections.
The
people
you
call
nimbies
may
share
many
of
your
ideals,
but
have
learned
that
bureaucracies
often
fail.
For
example,
the
EQ
staff
was
prevented
from
discussing
the
contaminant,
pfas
and
so
left
are
elected
leaders
in
the
dark
about
dangers
of
discharging
treated
Wastewater
into
our
canals
we
nimby's
corrected
that
people
will
be
that
will
be
directly
affected,
are
not
always
right,
but
we
are
willing
to
dig
deep
because
our
lives
depend
on
it.
BT
There
is
a
path
forward:
analyze
compliance
with
each
neighborhood
plan
and
District
policy
of
blueprint
Boise
with
public
participation
quickly.
Passing
this
code
will
mean
that
a
battle
will
become
a
political
and
legal
war
in
which
only
opportunists
will
win
I'll,
be
fighting
on
the
side
of
History
the
side
of
strengthening
democracy
rather
than
weakening
it.
I
hope
that
you
will
too.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
either
Mansfield
and
then
Marissa
Keith
and
then
Christy
warhurst.
P
Go
ahead
great
thanks.
Commissioners
I
just
want
to
first
point
out
that
I'm
going
to
be
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself,
not
on
behalf
of
Hawkins
this
evening.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear.
I
also
would
like
to
reject
the
up
zone
of
the
Frank
Church
Wilderness
I,
don't
think
that's
appropriate
I!
P
Don't
know
you
guys
might
have
missed
the
discussion
about
how
this
was
going
to
destroy
the
Frank
Church
earlier
and
I
would
also
like
to
support
the
repeal
of
the
Boise
down
Zone,
which
is
what
I
think
we're
recommending
approval
of
tonight.
P
So
I'd
also
like
to
commence.
My
name
is
Ethan
Mansfield
4409,
West,
Albion,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho
and
I'd
like
to
First
commend
staff
for
working
through
this
Monumental
undertaking.
I
know
that
they've
been
thinking
about
it
day
in
and
day
out
for
the
past
year,
at
least
and
overall
they've
done
a
tremendous
job.
They've
created
a
code
that
generally
allows
for
more
of
the
things
we
want
and
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
new
code.
P
I
have
a
few
suggestions
and
thoughts
about
how
we
can
make
it
more
effective
at
promoting
good
development
without
stifling
Innovative
creative
development.
I
think
that
my
suggestions
will
bear
us
closer
to
creating
neighborhoods
that
we
had
before
the
zoning
code
in
the
first
place,
which,
let's
face
it
are
literally
the
most
valuable
neighborhoods
in
the
city
and,
like
Jody
pointed
out
earlier,
we
need
more
of
these
places,
so
the
problem
with
the
old
existing
code
is
not
that
it
was
reflective
of
the
Zeitgeist
of
the
1960s
when
it
was
implemented.
P
The
old
code
reflected
the
values
of
that
time
when
it
was
created,
and
that's
what
policy
generally
does
and
that's
fine.
The
problem
with
the
old
code
is
that,
as
the
Zeitgeist
changed
over
time,
the
zoning
code
did
not
continue
to
subsidize
the
development
of
things
that
we
now
widely
understand
have
created
problems,
and
that
is
the
fundamental
issue
of
over-regulating.
Land
use,
preferences
and
Technologies
change
codes
do
not
at
least
fundamentally.
P
We
have
an
opportunity
now
to
change
that
with
this
code.
That's
why
we
should
liberalize
parking
requirements
and
the
table
of
allowed
uses.
That's
why
we
should
make
land
subdivision
easier,
that's
why
we
should
make
it
easier
to
build
all
types
of
housing,
because
we
don't
know
exactly
what
types
of
housing
people
will
want
in
40
years.
We
don't
know
whether
people
will
travel
by
scooter
horse,
Rideshare,
Giant,
Truck,
bus
or
e-bike
in
40
years.
Let's
make
a
durable
code
that
makes
it
easy
to
develop
vibrant
communities
developers
both
large
and
small,
are
Community
Builders.
P
If
people
don't
or
won't
buy
it
or
rent
it
developers
won't
build
it.
If
we
allow
for
good
development,
it
will
get
built,
and
the
proposal
generally
allows
this
good
development,
but
I'm
going
to
quickly
highlight
two
items
that
are
easy
to
change.
That
will
have
very
far-reaching
positive
effects
in
terms
of
land
development.
In
my
30
seconds
that
I
have
left.
First,
please
consider
keeping
the
minor
land
division
crystal.
P
Is
it
possible
to
bring
up
my
my
little
deal
in
my
next
in
my
last
like
six
seconds
so
I
I
want
to
talk
about
this
development?
This?
It
doesn't
really
matter
whether
you
have
small
lot
allowances
large
lot
allowances.
What
the
minimum
lot
size
is
if
it
takes
a
year
and
a
half
to
divide
the
land,
you
won't
get
small
scale
developers
doing
it
and
that's
what
we've
done
by
eliminating
the
minor
land
division.
Please
please,
please
consider
keeping
it.
P
It
will
make
small
scale
development
missing
middle
development,
which
is
exactly
what
we
want
a
reality
and
then
please
deregulate
parking.
Thank
you
both
mins
and
Max's.
Thanks
thank.
BU
My
name
is
Marissa
Keith
and
I'm
at
3279,
South
Cloverdale
I
was
a
member
of
the
Citywide
advisory
advisory
committee.
Sorry
I'm
tired
and
when
the
rewrite
started,
I
was
a
social
worker
when
the
rewrite
ended,
I
was
working
for
two
non-profits
still
do
one.
That
advocates
for
the
Boise
River
and
I
would
like
to
ask
that
you
please
have
the
Boise
River
Ordinance
to
your
short
list
for
tonight,
and
the
other
is
a
coordinator
for
say,
France
to
schools,
programs.
BU
As
for
the
process,
I
wish
that
two
things
had
gone
differently
and
one
was
that
the
public
had
shown
up
more
for
the
community
conversations
and
the
open
houses
that
the
city
had
held
for
modules,
one
two
and
three
and
the
other
one
was
the
city
had
held
at
least
a
few
of
those
events
after
the
final
draft
had
been
released
so
that
people
could
have
more
opportunity
to
ask
questions
so
I
live
in
the
area
of
impact.
BU
The
answer
to
the
housing
crisis
is
not
to
sprawl
further
out
into
the
desert.
Let
me
tell
you
that,
but
over
the
last
four
years,
our
neighbors
to
our
right
left
and
behind
have
all
had
people
living
in
RVs
behind
their
houses
hidden
from
the
county,
so
they're
not
found
out
another
person
living
in
an
RV
used
to
park
at
night
to
the
north
of
my
house
in
a
subdivision
that
was
under
construction.
The
need
for
housing
is
huge
in
the
current
code.
BU
Not
only
promotes
sprawl,
but
it
does
nothing
to
incentivize
the
type
of
gross
growth
that
we
want
to
see
so
I
know.
The
city's
opinion
is
that
they
can't
mandate,
affordable,
housing
and
I
would
like
to
see
this
zoning
code
take
more
of
a
Firm
Stance
and
make
not
a
40
not
including
affordable
housing
unprofitable
it
it
it's
on
the
right
track,
but
I
think
that
it
could
go
further.
BU
I
would
also
like
to
explore
or
have
the
city
explore
if
they
can
incentivize
a
first
right
of
refusal
with
most
new
projects
to
allow
tenants
first
and
then
the
city
second
a
chance
to
buy
the
property.
If
it
goes
up
for
sale,
if
we
could
identify
current,
affordable
housing
and
compel
those
landlords
into
signing
a
first
right
of
refusal
contract,
that
would
be
all
the
better.
BU
So
when
the
market
changes-
and
it
will
at
some
point,
it
may
be
feasible
for
the
city
to
capture
more
affordable
housing
and
preserve
it
from
the
next
wave
of
wave
of
growth
time.
Extensions
have
also
been
a
problem
out
where
we
we
live.
Half
finished
subdivisions
that
sit
for
years
without
being
finished.
BU
I
think
that
time
and
extension
should
be
few
and
far
between
the
other
thing
would
be
a
city-wide
demolition
by
neglect
ordinance,
so
that
developers
cannot
let
houses,
abandon
them
and
then
drug
use,
squatters
and
all
sorts
of
great
things
go
in
next
door.
BU
I
also
am
not
in
favor
of
tearing
down
existing
houses.
I
would
like
to
make
it
difficult
to
tear
them
down
and
easy
to
do
adaptive,
reuse
and
incorporate
them
into
new
developments.
So
thank
you.
B
And
then
Karen
scriber
and
then
Robert
Elliott.
AG
My
name
is
Karen
scriver
I
live
in
Veterans
Park
neighborhood
at
4035,
West,
Garnet,
Street
I'm
on
the
Veterans
Park
neighborhood
association
board,
but
I'm
speaking
for
myself,
I
live
on
my
grandmother's
Homestead
from
1920
and
share
that
property.
With
my
brother's
house,
my
grandmother
sold
the
city
of
Boise
the
land
for
the
Lander
Street
treatment
plant
in
the
1950s.
She
was
born
in
1888
and
was
a
Visionary
on
land
use.
AG
She
was
the
one
who
did
multiple
land
splits
whereby
she
and
her
husband
built
and
had
many
duplexes
built
back
in
the
40s
through
the
70s
I.
Don't
know
when
the
city
changed
the
Zoning
for
my
neighborhood
to
R2,
but
I,
don't
remember,
being
told
that
was
happening.
Maybe
I
did
not
live
there.
Then,
when
I
was
born,
my
parents
lived
in
the
duplex,
my
grandmother
owned.
Next
to
her
house.
There
are
many
duplexes
triplexes
and
multiplexes.
In
my
neighborhood
there
are
more
than
single
homes.
AG
There
are
12
on
my
street
alone
and
many
are
owned
by
investors
along
with
four
Habitat
for
Humanity
duplex
homes.
I
believe,
most
of
all,
the
plexes
are
rented,
which
creates
few
problems.
Mostly
code
issues,
I
used
to
live
in
Eagle
in
a
large
home
in
a
beautiful
subdivision,
but
I
chose
to
move
back
to
my
grandmother's
property
because
it
was
my
Heritage
and
I
wanted
to
be
closer
to
my
brother.
AG
It
is
in
an
older
area
with
narrow
streets
and
no
sidewalks
I
walk
my
dogs
a
couple
of
times
a
day
and
I
have
to
move
to
the
side
of
the
road
to
avoid
getting
hit
by
the
school
buses
flying
by
and
the
many
renters
speeding
along.
My
point
in
telling
you
all
this
is
that
my
R2
Zone
full
of
affordable
multi-family
housing
works
pretty
well
as
it
stands
thanks
to
my
grandmother,
but
it
will
not
work
with
additional
40
foot,
45
foot
apartment
units
being
added
to
an
already
very
inclusive,
older
neighborhood.
AG
We
had
a
pedestrian
hit
in
our
neighborhood
last
fall
in
a
hit
and
run,
and
we
barely
have
room
to
put
our
garbage
cans
on
the
street
with
all
these
plexus
narrow
streets
with
no
sidewalks
is
a
consistent
problem
in
Veterans,
Park
neighborhood
and
as
you
look
to
transition,
the
neighborhood
from
the
C1
zones
to
the
R2
I
would
strongly
consider
that
you
look
at
all
that
I
feel
like
the
zoning
changes
are
aggressive
toward
low
income.
Less
affluent
older
neighborhoods
I.
Think
that,
as
you
look
at
these
zoning
changes
you
need
to.
AG
If
you
really
want
to
solve
this,
you
need
to
look
across
the
city
and
not
protect
everybody
else
and
impact
all
of
us
that
live
in
these
other
places.
The
other
thing
I
would
like
to
say
is
that
I
do
not
think
people
all
understand.
This
I
think
the
city's
tried
but
I
think
there
there's
a
great
lack
of
Education
about
the
impacts
on
these
changes
and
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
I
don't
have
a
city
elected
council.
Member
representing
my
district
I,
do
not
support
some
of
the
code.
Changes
and
I.
BK
B
You,
okay,
Robert
Elliott,.
B
BV
Up
my
name
is
Robert
Elliott
and
I'm
at
1037,
West,
Hale,
Street,
right
by
the
university,
and
that
house
is
a
400
square
foot
Adu
and
for
a
reference
it's
about
the
size
of
two
parking
spots.
I
live
in
that
Adu
with
my
girlfriend
now
some
I've
heard
might
describe
my
house
as
substandard
and
inadequate,
but
we
really
love
it,
and
we
love
that.
It's
close
enough
that
we
can
walk
and
bike
to
everything
that
we
need
to
get
to
now.
BV
BV
However,
even
under
even
though
my
house
was
legal
to
build
in
my
neighborhood,
they
were
very
restrictive
parking
minimum
requirements
so
much
so
that
more
square
footage
had
to
be
set
aside
for
parking
minimums
than
there
was
for
the
actual
house
and
living
space
and
I
found
that
parking
very
useful.
As
somebody
who
bikes
and
walks
everywhere,
overall
I
strongly
support
the
modern
zoning
code
as
I
believe
it
was
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
will
allow
for
more
housing
to
be
developed
in
a
sustainable
and
affordable
way.
BV
If
I
were
to
make
suggestions,
it
would
be
to
make
this
zoning
rewrites
more
aggressive.
First
of
all,
I
think
it
should
abolish
all
parking
minimums
or
even
set
parking
maximums,
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
My
house
is
the
size
of
about
two
parking
spots
and
just
think
of
all
of
the
housing
we
could
build
in
the
concrete
deserts
that
we
have
for
parking
lots
right
now
and
I
think
that
it
could
be
a
little
bit
more
aggressive
with
going
after
HOAs
and
ccnrs
I
think
that's
a
giant
loophole.
AC
BW
Good
evening
Erica
Schofield
7363
West
Limelight
Court.
This
is
my
sixth
year
of
testimony
on
public
safety
and
advocating
for
decisions
based
on
data
and
adoptive
standards.
The
city
is
falling
further
and
further
behind
on
its
core
responsibility
of
Public
Safety
in
regards
to
keeping
up
with
growth
and
that
it
has
aggressively
pursued
the
hard
data.
Extensive
research
showed
Decades
of
development
approvals
in
the
Northwest
planning
area,
starting
with
the
Quail
Ridge
Subdivision
in
1988
that
were
based
on
the
promise
to
build
planned
fire
stations.
BW
35
years
of
empty
promises
have
gone
by
now
we
have
a
fire
station
plan
for
Bogart
Lane,
but
even
if
this
station
is
built,
it
might
not
actually
be
able
to
be
staffed
right
now
we
are
short
117
additional
firefighters
for
our
current
population
in
2015,
the
city
record
for
the
police
department
showed
the
need
for
34
additional
firefighters
by
2018
that
number
increased
to
54.
by
November
2021.
BW
We
were
short,
nearly
70
positions,
and
now
the
most
recent
data
shows
we
have
an
immediate
Staffing
need
of
129
additional
officers
for
our
current
population
for
those
listening
in.
If
you
are
hearing
these
numbers
for
the
first
time-
and
this
is
disturbing
to
you-
it
should
be
because
this
is
your
taxpayer
funded
protection
and
safety
that
is
being
placed
at
higher
risk
every
day,
and
it
is
also
the
safety
of
our
First
Responders.
BW
The
recent
public
safety
plan
acknowledges
the
burden
being
imposed
on
these
two
departments,
through
its
strategic
through
its
strategies
to
address
burnout
from
being
overworked
the
risk
of
suicide,
as
well
as
the
need
for
trauma
recovery.
We
are
most
likely
not
going
to
hear
testimony
from
our
First
Responders,
because
this
might
put
their
job
security
in
jeopardy,
but
I
fully
anticipate.
We
may
hear
comments
from
upper
management
that
attempts
to
minimize
the
issues,
but
the
data
speaks
for
itself.
No
rationale
or
excuses
can
dispute
this
Public
Safety
Services
are
already
stretched
too
thin.
BW
We
are
now
at
more
than
seven
minutes
for
our
response,
while
the
policy
and
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
response
standard
used
in
the
methodology
for
collecting
fire
impact
fees
is
a
four-minute
response.
Boise's
elected
officials
have
failed
to
build
up
the
Strategic
assets
necessary
to
accommodate
the
additional
growth
they
now
wish
to
pursue.
It
may
have
been
possible
in
2018
when
this
started
when
public
staffing
needs
were
lower,
but
that
is
no
longer
the
case.
We
simply
don't
have
the
carrying
capacity
to
handle
and
increase
demand
generated
by
generated
by
rezoning
for
higher
density.
BW
We
won't
for
several
more
years
at
best
and
the
messaging
coming
from
mayor
McLean,
claiming
this
rewrite
for
our
code
will
improve.
Public
Safety
is
smoke
and
mirrors
for
those
who
are
easily
fooled
and
not
aware
of
this
data.
This
data
provides
substantial
evidence
to
support
a
recommendation
of
denial,
because
this
will
place
a
further
a
new
burden
on
our
First
Responders
and
adverse
adversely
continue
to
impact
Public
Safety.
It's
irresponsible
and
Reckless.
To
avoid
this
data.
BW
B
Thank
you.
Anybody
else
in
person
that
would
like
to
testify
now
miss
Keith.
You
were
going
to
represent
your
neighborhood
association,
correct,
okay,
we're
going
to
finish
up
the
public
testimony
we'll
close
that
and
then
do
your
neighborhood
presentation.
B
Yes,
please
come
on
up
podium's
free
then,
after
let's
say
we
only
probably
have
one
more
person
in
Chambers
and
then
we'll
have
a
couple
folks
online
and
have
their
hands
up
go
to
online
folks.
Next,
please,
my.
BP
Name
is
Frankie
rosary
and
I
live
at
3660,
North,
39th
Street
and
one
thing
that
I
haven't
heard
mentioned
a
lot
and
I've
lived
in
Boise
for
70
years
is
the
weather
and
we
have
a
large
population
of
older
people,
and
we
have
people
that
are
handicapped
and
there's
no
way
that
public
transportation
is
going
to
work
for
all
of
these
people.
There's
going
to
be
days
in
the
winter
that
are
below
zero
snow
everywhere
ice
there's
going
to
be
days
in
the
summer
that
are
above
100
and
I.
BP
B
AY
BB
My
name
is
Pam
Walmart
I
live
on
Tottenham
West
Tottenham
Lane
in
Boise
Idaho.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
for
the
opportunity.
You
can
contribute
my
comments
and
to
ask
questions.
BP
BB
BB
I
was
displaced
over
a
year
ago
for
a
high
density
luxury
project
by
out-of-state
developers.
I
see
continued
displacement,
as
stated
in
this
new
code.
Another
comment
I
would
like
to
make
is
that
I
did
attend
a
presentation
by
Tim,
Keane
and
I
heard.
It
said
that
they
want
to
bring
in
wealth
in
the
neighborhoods
and
that
they
also
stated
that
this
zoning
code
will
not
solve
the
problem
of
affordable
housing
and
especially
homelessness.
They
expect
homelessness
to
be
solved
by
the
government.
BB
BB
It
takes
me
three
buses
an
hour
and
10
minutes
when
it
takes
me
only
15
minutes
by
car
and
at
one
stop
I
have
to
wait,
18
minutes
for
a
transfer
and
if
it's
cold
or
hot,
that's
not
going
to
be
comfortable
I
like
slogan
of
the
city
for
everyone,
but
it
feels
like
it
could
become
a
segregated
City,
divided
by
income.
BB
And
it
sounds
like
the
choice
for
developers
to
either
reduce
parking
and
include
some
affordable
units
or
not
sounds
iffy
for
building
an
affordable
housing.
Supply
and
I
was
wondering
with
those
affordable
units
not
have
access
to
the
parking.
Since
it's
been
reduced
and
I.
Think
communication
is
important.
Public
input
needs
to
continue,
as
as
it
is
a
way
to
hear
other
views
know
what
is
unique
in
a
neighborhood
that
needs
to
be
preserved,
share
concerns
and
be
involved
in
Project
improvements.
BB
BB
And
I
am
wondering
what
will
be
the
process
to
tweaking
the
code
later
in
a
year?
If
it's
adopted,
will
public
input
be
allowed?
Would
it
be
easy
to
implement
those
changes,
or
is
it
going
to
be
a
long
process
like
this
seems
to
be
taken?
I
do
agree.
We
need
to
have
some
sewing
changes,
but
not
at
the
expense
of
the
people
who
live
here.
BB
B
L
C
B
Staff,
maybe
we
can
move
down
to
Julie
Holby
see
we
can't
work
out.
B
AK
Okay,
I
would
like
to
share
my
screen.
If
that's
going
to
be
a
possibility.
AK
Hi
I'm
Julie
helvey
I
live
at
3707
Nez
Perce
Street.
AK
I
have
a
few
thoughts
and
then
I'll
share.
A
few
slides
I
feel
like
that
zoning
code.
Rewrite
is
really
missing
the
mark
in
a
lot
of
ways,
we'll
talk
about
ex
exclusionary
zoning
and
and
how
it's
impacted
our
cities
and
hurt
people
over
time.
AK
And
then
we
look
at
this
zoning
code
rewrite
and
there
are
exclusions
for
overlays
and
certain
neighborhoods
that
are
wealthy
and
has
anybody
kind
of
thought
to
Define
that
stuff,
as
some
kind
of
an
exclusionary
zoning,
where
a
lot
of
the
development
and
infill
is
happening
in
the
poorer
neighborhoods
I
think
there
would
be
some
effects
of
building
some
things
if
they
were
really
high-end
things
up
in
the
Foothills,
where
we've
already
got
some
roads
and
then
people
would
move
out
of
there.
Maybe
modest
apartments
and
people
could
start
moving
up.
AK
I
hear
people
talking
that
this
is
not
a
perfect
plan
and
I
don't
think
we
should
pass
anything.
That's
not
close
to
perfect
I,
don't
think
the
right
people
have
had
the
input.
AK
I
thought
the
data
provide
by
Chris.
Was
it
donegur
or
done
a
girl,
the
maps
of
showing
how
the
splits
would
multiply
in
his
neighborhood
were
very
informative
and
I
would
like
to
have
seen
the
city
Supply,
something
like
that,
and
especially
after
you
guys
asked
for
it
last
night
by
the
time
you
do
the
up
Zone,
which
it
is
because
it's
an
increase
in
density,
a
downsizing
of
the
lot
narrower
setbacks
and
all
those
things
you
don't
have
an
increase.
AK
You
have
an
X
potential
increase,
so
our
blueprint,
Boise
says
the
goals
and
the
further
the
Boise's
commitment
to
becoming
sustainable
are
to
enhance
resources.
Providing
environmentally
friendly
development,
promote
energy,
Comfort
conservation,
preserve
opportunities
for
urban
agriculture
come
on.
Do
that
without
a
yard,
inform
and
educate
members
of
the
community
on
their
role
of
a
sustainable
future,
monitor
progress.
AK
Well,
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
any
evidence
in
your
plan
that
any
of
those
things
are
going
to
be
supported.
Environmental
stewardship
nope,
except
for
the
foothills,
A,
predictable
development
pattern
nope,
certainly
not
for
homeowners,
stable,
neighborhoods
nope,
certainly
not
for
homeowners
being
connected
you're
trying
a
community
that
values,
culture,
education,
arts
and
history.
Nope.
The
history
is
in
this
community
are
in
these
homes
on
the
bench.
Well,
I'm
partial
I
live
there.
AK
C
BX
All
right,
let's
finish
this,
just
thanks!
You
guys
it's
been
honestly
a
good
experience
to
hear
from
every
side
just
inspired.
My
name
is
Joel
and
I
live
at
8601,
West,
Casa,
Grande,
Court
and
I.
Just
consider
it
a
privilege
to
get
to
do
this,
so
thanks
for
listening
stayed
at
the
front
I'm
in
favor
of
the
rezone
I'll
list
out
a
few
reasons
why?
BX
But
who
largely
just
speak
to
one
I
like
the
strategy
behind
the
density
along
Transit
corridors
I
like
the
included
requirements
for
affordable
units
I
like
the
possibility
for
more
neighborhood
cafes,
where
there
can
be
neighborly
connection,
crossover
I'm
greatly
in
favor
of
more
diverse
housing
options,
but
mostly
I'm
excited
about
the
Avenues.
The
code
permits
for
you
know
ordinary
citizens
like
myself
to
use
my
assets,
be
it
Financial,
Financial
or
social,
to
engage
our
housing
problems
with
Solutions.
BX
It's
going
to
take
all
of
us.
Engage
citizens
collaborating
together
to
move
the
needle
on
the
housing
crisis
and
I
just
see
this
code
as
a
step
in
that
direction.
My
wife
and
I
run
a
little
non-profit
where
we
work
primarily
primarily
with
youth,
and
so
we've
we've
seen
firsthand
the
effects
of
the
just
housing
crisis
and
displacement,
and
we
just
have
this
desire
and
vision
to
see.
Boise
become
the
most
welcoming
City
on
the
planet
and
it's
an
ideal
that
we
would
love
to
live
into.
BX
It
be
be
it
to
refugees
who
are
looking
for
a
safe
place
to
to
live
to
Californians,
who
need
a
change
of
scene
or
idahoans
who
simply
have
loved
their
city,
but
can't
afford
it
anymore.
The
questions
not
whether
people
will
come,
but
how
will
they
be
greeted
and
will
they
be
greeted
with
our
No
Vacancy
signs
in
our
hotel
rooms
are
increasingly
expensive,
housing
rates
rental
rates,
or
will
they
be
welcomed
by
citizens?
BX
J
B
AK
BY
So
it
makes
me
always
wonder
you
know:
are
we
going
to
be
a
city
of
mature
trees
or
just
twigs?
And
additionally,
my
area's
High
residential
density
has
car
parks
and
what
other
neighborhoods
call
front
yards
and
the
new
residential
structures
all
at
a
maximum
height
which
Loom
over
established
homes
and
their
minimum
setbacks,
make
for
narrow,
dark
places
for
little
nature
to
grow?
BY
Clearly,
my
area
of
Boise
is
already
being
densified
for
profit
and
not
people
and
not
mother
nature,
and
that's
part
of
what
everyone
loves
about
this
area
is
the
nature
and
we're
just
Paving
it
over
and
to
call
out,
particularly
you
know.
The
proposed
title
of
this
chapter
11
and
the
purpose
section-
requires
serious
review
and
revision.
BY
Also,
the
hearing
examiner
needs
to
be
a
staff
member,
not
a
contractor,
as
stated
in
Idaho
Statute,
and
please
review
exhibit
o
starting
on
page
32.,
with
our
shared
trust
in
mind.
Please
pause
and
allow
the
November
2023
vote
for
public
representation
and
remember
to
save
Treetops
for
rooftops
for
all
of
our
futures
fade,
but
our
Legacy,
the
heart,
remembers
and
I.
Just
thank
you
for
your
Aid
and
I
really
hope.
You'll
take
this
to
Heart,
what's
happening
in
our
area
as
an
example
of
what
could
happen
city
wide.
BY
B
BZ
BZ
Thank
you,
I
operate
buildsmith
and
our
mailing
address
is
PO.
Box,
1422,
Boise,
Idaho,
83701
and
I
will
be
brief.
I
have
been
following
along
the
efforts
to
build
a
both
inclusive
and
far-reaching
and
impactful
new
code.
I
consider
myself
a
recovering
city
planner,
having
left
a
city
of
Boise
in
2007
after
having
worked
on
Harris
Ranch
master
plan
and
then
leading
toward
a
career
still
in
real
estate,
Development
and
Construction,
but
in
the
Intermountain
Northwest.
BZ
So
oftentimes
I've
worked
within
jurisdictions
that
have
Rewritten
their
code
and
have
made
incremental
improvements
all
along,
and
it's
surprising
that
city
of
Boise
hasn't
taken
this
effort
on
in
many
decades.
But
it
also
makes
sense
because
of
the
reactions
that
we've
gathered
all
throughout
the
city.
BZ
So
it's
been
interesting
to
watch
and,
in
conclusion,
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
adopting
a
new
code
viewing
that
incrementalism
is
sometimes
progress
and
even
though
it
may
not
be
perfect,
we
shouldn't
compromise
something
that
so
many
people
have
put
in
huge
effort
to
support,
knowing
that
it
will
help
our
city
improve
and
change
and
embrace.
Hopefully
that
aspirational
words
of
achieving
a
city
for
all.
So
in
summary,
I'm
in
support
of
the
change
and
commend
staff
and
all
of
the
Outreach
that's
occurred.
BZ
B
Okay,
I
believe
that
does
it
for
our
public
testimony.
Thank
you.
Everybody.
Before
we
move
on,
we
have
a
representative
from
the
South
West
Ada
County
Alliance.
Here
neighborhood
association.
They
were
unable
to
make
to
make
it
on
Monday
for
the
neighborhood
association
presentations.
So
we're
going
to
give
Miss
Keith
here
five
minutes
for
that
neighborhood
presentation.
BU
Marissa
Keith
3279
South,
Cloverdale,
Road
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Southwest
data
County
Alliance,
neighborhood
association,
which
is
the
best
and
safest
place
to
walk
in
Boise,
because
if
you
Proclaim
it
then
it
happens
is
what
I
heard
so.
The
contents
of
this
testimony
were
reviewed
and
approved
by
our
board
at
a
meeting.
It's
not
represent
all
opinions
that
live
within
our
neighborhood
association.
BU
Those
are
sold
over
40
000
people
there,
okay,
Okay
so
water,
so
we
have
lots
of
people
in
Southwest
Boise,
both
in
the
city
and
in
the
area
of
impact
that
are
having
Wells
go
dry.
Mostly.
This
is
due
to
changes
in
land
use
which
can
be
good
and
bad.
Farmland
obviously
uses
flood
irrigation,
which
uses
much
more
water
than
residential.
BU
However,
it
also
does
not
allow
the
water
to
then
percolate
down
back
to
into
the
aquifer,
and
so,
as
the
area
of
impact
of
Southwest
Boise
has
developed,
we've
we've
seen
lower
and
lower
water
levels,
so
there
is
an
exemption
for
the
assured
water
supply
on
page
295,
it's
a
director
exemption
and
we
would
like
to
see
that
eliminated,
because
we
think
that
all
new
developments
that
fall
under
the
applicability
area
should
be
required
to
show
that
there's
an
adequate
supply
of
water
not
only
for
their
use
but
for
the
community,
the
affordable
housing
issue,
I'm
just
going
to
say,
if
you
are
annexing
out
of
the
area
of
impact
into
the
city
of
Boise,
it
should
be
of
privilege
and
the
city
should
require
affordable
housing.
BU
Because
you
can.
You
can
say
no
with
that.
If
you
we
would
like
staff
when
annexations
occur
or
possibly
rezoned,
to
look
at
negotiating
improvements,
off-site
improvements
even
or
to
fill
sidewalk
gaps
and
get
pedestrian
infrastructure
within
Southwest
Boise,
with
the
increase
of
land
use
or
what
the
increase
of
land
price.
What
something
is
annexed
into
the
city
of
Boise?
There
should
be
money
to
do
that.
In
our
letter
we
discussed
the
open
space
for
multi-family.
BU
We
just
think
that
as
stories
increase,
so
should
the
required
amount
of
open
space,
and
we
would
also
like
to
see
the
sentence
which
is
found
in
the
other
types
of
housing,
that
a
percentage
of
permeable
ground
surface
with
Landscaping
be
added
bike.
Parking
is
my
favorite
part,
so
we
had
a
request
that
the
multi-dwelling
bike
parking
be
same
ratio
as
how
off
street
car
parking
is
determined.
So
right
now,
car
parking
is
determined
by
bedroom
by
long-term
bike.
BU
Parking
is
determined
by
unit,
and
so,
if
you
have
a
three
bedroom
unit,
you
still
only
have
one
long-term
bike
parking.
The
issue
is,
that
is,
if
you
have
a
mom
dad
two
kids
and
everybody
has
a
bike.
Well,
somebody's
gonna
have
to
park
outside,
even
if
other
people
in
the
unit
do
not
are
in
the
development,
do
not
even
have
bikes.
BU
Theft
of
bikes
in
the
in
apartment
complexes
is
a
huge
issue
for
our
safe
routes
to
school
kids.
So
we
would
like
to
see
an
increase
in
that
and
bike
parking
at
school
should
be
covered
because
they
are
there
for
like
eight
hours
six
hours,
whatever
the
other
issue
is
drive-throughs,
so
RNA
within
the
area
of
impact
we're
under
the
county
code.
They
have
no
distance
requirements
between
drive-throughs
and
residential
Boise,
currently
has
a
200
foot
buffer.
BU
So
in
the
area
of
impact
we
are
seeing
drive-throughs
placed
close
to
residential,
and
this
not
only
causes
issues
with
light
and
idling
cars
and
speakers
well
into
the
night.
It
also
can
cause
a
domino
effect
because
nobody
really
wants
to
live
next
to
a
drive-through
or
a
McDonald's,
it's
open
till
midnight
or
whatever.
BU
So
we
would
like
to
see
that
this
new
code
keep
the
requirements
or
the
additional
requirements
that
are
going
into
place
for
drive-throughs
and
also
have
that
200
foot
buffer
so
a
year
or
so
ago,
this
buffer
prevented
a
drive
through
from
going
in
next
to
the
Fred
Meyers
out
on
Overland
and
Five
Mile,
because
on
two
sides
of
that
drive
through
they
were
less
than
200
feet
from
residential
and
because
that
buffer
was
in
place.
BU
It
also
prevented
that
drive
through
and
the
drive
through
through
Lanes,
from
going
right
next
to
the
Tot
Lot
that
that
same
developer
put
in,
and
so
we
would
actually
like
to
see
that
200
foot
buffer
expanded
to
include
Schools
public
or
private
parks
and
daycares.
So
we
would
like
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
your
commitment
and
for
staff
as
well.
BU
B
Thank
you,
Miss
Keith
appreciate
it:
okay,
okay,
all
right
back
to
the
commission.
Now
we've
wrapped
up
all
the
public
testimony
wrapped
up
our
neighborhood
association
presentations.
We
are
at
10
18
on
Wednesday
evening.
We've
had
that
for
three
nights,
so
I'm
kind
of
thinking.
Right
now
we
maybe
do
a
quick
rebuttal
with
staff,
while
we
have
the
whole
Squad
here.
B
If
that
sounds
good
to
you
all,
and
then
we
can
pick
it
up
tomorrow
with
maybe
some
final
q,
a
by
the
commission
and
then
deliberate,
was
that
how's
everybody
feel
about
that.
Okay,
getting
thumbs
up
I'll,
be.
B
F
The
commission
members
here
on
your
third
night
I'll,
try
to
go
through
this
quickly
and
try
and
hit
on
some
things
that
came
up
tonight.
I
want
to
start,
though,
of
course,
by
a
comment
that
several
people
made
tonight,
which
is
that
this
body
is
not
making
a
decision
right
now
as
to
whether
the
city
should
grow
or
not.
You
know
we
are
part
of
a
growing
region,
a
growing
city.
The
trajectory
likely
is
that
we'll
continue
to
grow
as
a
region
and
City.
F
The
question
really
just
is
how
we're
going
to
grow,
and
we
can
be
intentional
about
that
and
Boise's
opportunity
really
as
a
city,
is
to
avoid
the
mistakes
of
so
many
cities
in
this
country.
If
you
become
a
big
city
in
this
country
over
the
past
50
60
years,
you've
done
the
exact
same
thing
in
every
case,
and
we
because
of
where
we
are
in
our
growth
here,
can
avoid
those
things,
and
we
think
that
this
code
is
is
part
of
that
solution.
F
It
certainly
doesn't
solve
every
problem,
but
it's
an
important
step
to
solve
those
big
problems
that
we're
seeking
to
to
address
here
in
Boise
that
are
so
much
a
part
of
blueprint.
Boise
the
as
I
said
when
we
started
today.
We
we
are
without
hesitation
wholeheartedly
recommending
this
code.
We
think
the
structure
is
right,
the
elements
of
it
are
are
correct,
and,
and
what
we
know
will
need
to
do
as
if
it's
adopted
by
council
is
we'll,
have
to
come
back
and
monitor
it
on
an
ongoing
basis.
F
But
that's
really
the
details
of
it,
as
I
said,
are
the
affordability
and
sustainability
incentives
being
successful?
Those
kinds
of
things
are
the
parking
requirements
calibrated
properly.
You
know
is
the
process
working
as
we
wanted
it
to,
but
not
changing
the
structure.
We
think
all
the
elements
here
are
the
right
ones
for
Boise
they're,
not
okay,
that
they're
actually
ideal
with
regard
to
housing,
affordability,
I
think
it's
from
it's
important
to
remember.
F
Zonings
role
in
this
and
and
a
couple
folks
tonight
were
kind
of
alluding
to
this
in
terms
of
my
comments
and
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
zoning
doesn't
solve,
as
everyone
has
said,
from
every
perspective,
solved
every
housing,
affordability
issue.
What
it
should
do,
though,
is
it
should
allow
the
private
Market
to
provide
more
housing
for
people
that
are
of
modest
means,
and
that
tends
to
mean
80
or
so
of
of
every
median
income
80
to
120,
something
like
that,
depending
on
whether
it's
rental
or
owner
occupied.
F
If
you
get
lower
than
80
percent,
that's
funding,
that's
housing
that
the
public
has
money
in
or
land
in,
you
have
to
go
to
get
to
60
or
50
or
30,
which
is
so
important
in
this
community
you're
going
to
spend
public
money
on
it
and
the
city
for
the
first
time
in
its
history
is
doing
that.
Mayor,
McLean
and
city
council
are,
for
the
first
time,
spending
public
money
to
address
permanent,
Supportive
Housing
and
those
lower
income
levels,
but
zoning's
got
to
pull
its
way.
F
Zoning
should
get
to
80
percent
to
120
percent
and
that's
the
way
this
has
been
calibrated.
There
are
cities
in
this
country
that
are
spending
public
money
to
get
housing
at
80
to
100
percent
of
air
immune
income.
That's
a
shame!
This
is
our
chance
to
not
do
that.
So
when
it
comes
to
housing,
affordability,
that's
the
zoning's
role
and
that's
why
this
thing
has
been
organized
with
a
combination
of
let's
give
some
zoning
to
get
denser
and
in
the
right
places.
F
Right
now-
and
it's
been
said
so
many
times
as
we
move
into
a
this
opportunity-
that
Boise
is-
we
just
have
to
it's
a
public
service
announcement
as
I
say
that
that
we
really
have
to
design
the
city
and,
through
this
code
ensure
that
more
people
don't
have
to
drive
so
much
that
we
have
choices,
everyone
that
can
that
has
the
means
will
drive
clearly,
but
if
they
can
drive
less
and
shorter
distances
that
that's
the
purpose
of
this.
That's
how
you
solve
this
congestion
problem,
not
to
mention.
F
We
need
better
service
for
those
that
can't
that
that
must
rely
on
public
transportation
and
walking
and
so
forth,
and
and
that's
the
chance
in
this-
it's
not
looking
backwards.
You're
saying
how
do
we
get
around
right
now,
just
like
in
the
60s,
when
this
was
happening,
we
didn't
have
a
massive
system
of
highways.
F
We
built
that
to
support
low
density
across
the
landscape.
Well,
now
we
have
this
chance
to
go
in
the
opposite
direction,
and
this
is
an
important
step
in
that
direction.
And
finally,
the
financial
response,
the
the
financially
responsible
decision,
a
lot
of
discussion
about
Services,
the
cost
of
services,
whether
it's
Public,
Safety
or
utilities,
or
things
like
libraries
and
parks
and
so
forth,
the
cost
of
the
services
and
the
infrastructure,
and
we
know
that
what's
happened
in
the
last
generation-
is
we
in
we
buy
investing
in
low
density
sprawl.
F
We
spread
ourselves,
Way
Too
Thin,
to
a
point
where
we
can't
afford
to
continue
to
expand
that
way
and
the
public
can't
afford
it
and
so
by
building
on
our
existing
streets
and
our
existing
neighborhoods
we're
building
where
we
have
infrastructure,
where
we
have
Services,
of
course,
we'll
need
more.
You
know
people
will
need
more
the
ability
to
grow,
but
we're
at
least
we're
doing
it
within
our
existing
footprint,
where
we've
already
got
the
basic
structure
set
a
couple
of
specific
things
regarding
trees.
F
We
didn't
speak
to
this
in
our
opening,
but
it's
been
mentioned
several
times
today.
There's
a
whole
aspect
of
this
ordinance,
which
is
around
trees
in
Boise,
which
includes,
for
the
first
time,
requirements
to
plant
Class
III
trees,
which
are
the
biggest
canopy
trees
around
the
perimeter
of
a
parking
lot
within
the
parking
lot
within
commercial
developments
that
what
didn't
exist
before
we
had
smaller
trees
that
were
being
planted.
So
you
don't
get
the
canopy.
We
work
closely
with
the
Forester
and
the
parks
department
about.
F
How
can
we
tweak
the
tree
standards
to
ensure
better
mitigation
in
cases
where
we
lose
trees
and
make
sure
this
ordinance
allows
for
some
flexibility?
So
you
can
save
trees
so
there's
a
whole
emphasis
within
this
ordinance
around
trees.
Regarding
Transitions
and
step
Downs,
there's
multiple
ways
that
this
ordinance
addresses
that
issue.
If
you've
got
a
one-story
structure,
the
stepping
down
to
get
to
that
height
and
and
there's
actually
I-
think
it's
four
sections.
F
We
were
going
over
today
that
addressing
cases
where
you
have
a
multi-unit
building
the
fact
that
it
has
to
step
down
next
to
your
neighbor
who's,
a
one-story
building
and,
and
so
there's
multiple
places
within
the
ordinance
that
address
that.
Not
just
the
intentional
aspects
of
this
that
we
incorporated
like
the
MX3
to
MX2,
to
amp
to
R1,
which
is
important-
that's
part
of
it,
but
there's
other
measures
that
address
this
transition.
So
you
don't
get
these
abrupt
changes
between
taller
buildings
and
and
shorter
neighbors.
F
So
you
know
we
got
to
be
careful
about
those
things.
We
have
to
be
careful
about
displacement.
That's
why,
in
this
ordinance,
we
added
something
that
doesn't
exist
in
the
current
ordinance,
and
this
would
apply
to
the
MX
zones
where,
if
you
and
the
now
or
in
the
past
three
years,
have
a
property,
that's
had
assisted
living,
a
nursing
home,
a
mobile
home
park,
a
federally
designated,
affordable,
housing
or
just
even
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
for
people
making
sixty
percent
or
less
very
immediate
income.
Now
or
in
the
last
three
years.
F
You
have
to
come
to
this
body
and
discuss
it
with
us,
a
conditional
use
permit.
We
wanted
to
create
that
protection
to
say
people
that
are
vulnerable
to
displacement,
require
a
public
Hearing
in
those
cases
so
that
in
providing
that
additional
density
in
a
place
like
state
or
Fairview
or
Vista,
where
we're
going
to
MX3
or
an
activity
center.
We
include
that
protection
in
this
ordinance
and
then
and
really
I,
think
so.
F
The
the
the
just
to
kind
of
finish,
the
big
issues
that
are
so
important
to
this
community
being
financially
responsible,
addressing
issues
around
climate
and
nature
Transportation
how
we
are
successful
in
our
transportation
investments
in
this
community,
we
have
an
enormous
one
to
make
in
transit
the
housing
affordability
issue.
What's
the
zoning's
role
in
that?
How
do
we
make
sure
that's
successful?
F
But
this
has
been
a
three-year
process
around
this
public
discussion,
which
so
many
people,
including
many
tonight,
were
participants
in,
and
so
we
feel
very
strongly
that
this
is
an
amazing
public
achievement
for
the
community
that
we
should
move
forward
with
and
that's
why
we're
recommending
it
and
I'll
also
say,
even
as
it
relates
to
digesting
something
like
this,
because
zoning
ordinances
are
pretty
complex,
the
one
we
have
is
longer
than
this
one.
This
ordinance
that's
been
mentioned
several
times.
F
611
Pages,
the
actual
regulations
themselves
are
about
how
half
of
that,
but
it's
somewhat
complex,
that's
why
we
did
it
in
three
phases:
module
one
module
two
and
module
three,
so
that
we
could
digest
this
a
piece
at
a
time
and
I
understand
people
come
to
it
late.
They
didn't
know
about
it.
That's
under
everybody
is
busy,
so
that's
understandable,
but
just
to
say
just
to
give
note
to
this
process
and
everybody
that's
been
a
participant
in
it
and
and
really
the
the
extraordinary
thing
that
came
from
it.
F
That
I
think
people
should
be
proud
of
because
it
does
get
to
those
issues
that
Boise
so
cares
about
and
are
so
much
a
part
of
blueprint
Boise.
So
with
that
Mr
chair,
we
could
take
q
a
or
do
what
you
all
would
like
leave
would
be
another
option:
okay,.
B
Tim,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
for
the
closing
remarks
there.
We'll
call
that
rebuttal,
I
think
for
a
lot
better
term.
My
thought
here,
fellow
Commissioners,
is
that
we'll
recess
tonight
to
reiterate,
we
have
Khloe
the
public
hearing
component
of
this
process.
We've
just
had
Tim's
rebuttal
I.
Think
tomorrow,
we'll
arrive
at
five
o'clock
again,
we
can
maybe
begin
with
a
little
discussion
and
I
think
maybe
some
final
q,
a
with
staff
before
we
really
enter
into
deliberations
and
our
final
motion
and
any
considerations
that
we
give
to
council.
B
Okay
thanks
again,
staff
well
done!
Thank
you
again,
everybody
that
attended.
We
are
recessed
until
tomorrow
at
five
o'clock
good
night.