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From YouTube: Hillside Work Session Meeting
Description
December 1, 2021
A
Good
morning
my
name
is
jeff
turner.
We
we
own
a
couple
residential
properties
in
boise
that
you
guys
provide
service
to
and
long
story
short.
I
had
my
briefcase
stolen,
which
included
banking
info,
so
we've
had
to
change
all
of
our
bank
accounts,
which
I
think
are
on
auto
pay
for
both
of
the
properties
for
utilities
and,
to
be
honest,
I
don't
know
our
accounts,
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
B
C
B
I
don't
know,
but
it's
a
public
hearing,
so
you
can.
You
can
listen.
Okay,
so
get
back
to
what
I
was
doing
and
I
need
to
figure
out
how
to
turn
this
off,
but
I
guess
it'll
be
fine.
Thank
you
all
for
coming.
This
is
the
hillside
work
session
for
the
property
located
at
5758
west
hill
road.
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
2,
a
12
buildable
lot,
3
common
lot
subdivision
with
an
r1c
zone.
B
The
subdivision
will
take
access
from
the
private
street,
which
was
approved
with
the
hayes
silver
subdivision
phase
1
of
this
project,
and
please
understand
this
is
not
really
a
public
hearing
on
the
main
purpose
of
this
work
session
is
to
discuss
the
grading
and
drainage
associated
with
the
subdivision,
since
it
is
in
a
hillside
area.
As
such,
I
would
ask
everyone
to
keep
their
questions
focused
on
that
issue.
If
you
wish
to
discuss
planning
and
zoning
concerns,
I'd
be
happy
to
do
so
after
the
work
session.
B
Please
call
me
or
email
me
we
can
talk
about
that.
Also.
This
will
be
heard
at
a
public
hearing
before
pnc
and
city
council
at
a
future
date,
but
that
date
has
not
been
set
yet
public
noticing
will
go
out
for
that
once
it
has.
Hopefully
we
can.
B
Hopefully
you
can
see
the
my
shared
screen
and
therefore
I
will
generally
quickly
turn
this
app
this
meeting
over
to
the
applicant
to
give
a
summary
of
the
project
and
they
can
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
about
the
site.
Grading
showing
right
now
is
the
vicinity
map
showing
the
site,
and
then
here
is
the
grading
plan
ben.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
david.
My
name
is
ben
semple,
I'm
with
rodney,
evans
and
partners.
We
are
the
landscape,
architect
and
land
planner
with
me.
Today
is
also
ken
adamson
with
river
ridge
engineering.
They
are
the
civil
engineer
on
the
project
and
completed
the
design.
The
the
grading
design
work
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
D
So,
as
david
mentioned,
this
is
a
12
buildable
lot
subdivision.
Here's
the
layout
north
just
for
references
to
the
left
of
the
screen.
The
entry
is
through
the
previously
approved
private
street
that
comes
off
of
hill
road
to
access
hayes,
silver's
phase.
One
part
of
this
project
will
involve
an
extension
of
a
private
street
to
the
east
and
then
a
common
driveway
here,
as
well
as
a
common
driveway
on
the
north
edge
of
the
property
for
accessing
the
lots
I'm
providing
street
frontage.
D
There
will
be
a
landscape
buffer
along
hill,
road
and
part
of
the
the
common
drive
back
here
and
in
conversations
with
the
fire
department.
This
helps
provide
the
required
setbacks
based
on
the
wildland
urban
interface.
They
had
determined
that
the
north
property
boundary
was
the
one
that
they
considered
to
be
undeveloped.
There
are
single-family
residences
along
the
eastern
boundary,
so
this
is
the
just
the
preliminary
plan
layout
or
site
plan.
D
D
D
We've
done
some
geotechnical
investigation
to
prove
the
infiltration
rates,
we're
getting
some
more
testing
done
and
ultimately
we're
trying
to
limit
the
impact
to
the
small
borrow,
ditch
along
the
eastern
boundary,
so
that
we
can
save
a
lot
of
large,
mature
trees
that
fall
pretty
much
right
on
that
property
boundary.
Both
east
and
west.
Of
this
shared
property
line,
there
are
some
existing
trees
on
the
north
side
that
were
planted
by
the
current
resident
there
and
we're
gonna,
hopefully
be
able
to
dig
those
they're
fairly
small.
D
B
Thank
you
ben.
If
anybody
out
there
has
any
specific
questions
you
can
unmute
and
and
ask
those
questions
and
the
applicant
be
glad
to
to
address
them.
Thank
you,
and
once
again
my
name
is
david
moser
and
I'm
the
the
current
planner
working
on
this
application.
D
B
Just
as
a
for
those
out
on
youtube,
we
are
basically
at
this
point:
we're
gonna,
wait
and
see
if
anybody
might
join
us
in
the
next
10
or
15
minutes.
I
might
have
any
specific
questions
regarding
the
grading
plan
and
I
will
keep
my
my
mic
open
in
case.
You
know,
there's
any
questions
that
public
works
staff
might
have
towards
the
applicant
regarding
the
project,
so
you
can
hear
it.
B
I
don't
know
if
there
is
or
isn't,
but
so
I
will
that's
kind
of
where
we're
all
right
now,
unless
somebody
joins
us
we're
kind
of
just
waiting
to
see.
If
there's
anyone
out
there
has
any
questions.
Thank
you
and
once
again,
if
you
have
any,
if
you're
out
on
the
watching
this
on
youtube,
if
you
have
any
planning
questions,
you
know,
don't
hesitate
to
call
me.
B
I'm
the
current
planner
on
this
project,
david
moser
and
my
email
is
dmozer
cityboise.org
and
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
planning
and
zoning
questions
related
to
the
project.
Thank
you.
B
A
D
F
Yes,
actually,
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
as
a
neighbor,
a
couple
of
doors
down
from
this
proposed
development
and
they
concern
several
different
aspects
of
the
development.
One
is,
if
I
am
reading
the
plans
correctly.
Do
I
see
that
there
are.
F
B
We
can
hear
you
fine.
D
F
B
So
if
somebody
is
watching
or
listening
on
their
cell
phone
or
another
computer
in
your
room,
that
could
possibly
be
causing
the
feedback
on
your
side.
A
F
Okay,
the
feedback
was
delayed,
so
I'll
try
again.
Hopefully
the
cell
phone
is
out
of
range
now.
Okay,
so
I
had
several
questions.
F
D
F
F
F
I'm
curious
as
to
when
the
zoning
was
enacted,
because
when
my
husband
and
I
built
our
home,
the
zoning
around
here
was
very
different
and
we
were
not
notified
of
any
changes.
So
when
did
the
zoning
go
from
what
was
the
zoning
on
this
property
and
when
did
it
get
changed
to
allow
for
12
units?
B
If
I'm
okay,
if
I
may,
the
zoning
is
r1c
single-family
residential,
it
allows
up
to
eight
units
an
acre.
I
don't
know
offhand
when
the
actual
property
was
rezoned
to
this,
but
it
is
zoned
that
now
I
suspect
it
was
probably
zoned
some
time
ago,
but
I
can
definitely
find
that
information
out
and
and
get
it
back
to
you
if
you
or
you
could
give
me
a
call
or
shoot
me
an
email
like
I
said,
my
email
is
a
d
moser
cityboise.org
and
I
can
respond
and
let
you
know
when
that
happened.
D
F
Okay,
that's
interesting
because
when
we
purchased
our
property
a
couple
doors
away,
r1c
was
four
six
six
per
acre,
so
it's
doubled
on
this
property
two
doors
down
and
I'm
just
curious
as
to
why
that
is
so
I'd
like
to
yes,
I
will
be
contacting
you
to
find
that
out
also
on
this
property.
I
am
assuming
that,
because
it
is
north
of
hill
road
that
per
code,
you
will
be
required
to
put
a
three
foot
pad
underneath
each
home
as
earthquake
protection.
F
D
Jennifer,
I
actually
have
not
heard
of
that
code
requirement
before
I
don't
believe
it's
a
code
requirement.
We
do
have
geotechnical
work,
that's
been
done,
that
is
confirming
our
soil
types
and
then
any
of
the
structural
fill
or
foundation
design
will
have
to
meet
current
building
codes
which
take
into
account.
You
know
any
of
the
the
current
earthquake
requirements
and
seismic
requirements
for
for
construction
of
this
type,
so
it
will
be
conforming
to
any
of
that
international
building
code
regarding
seismic
requirements.
F
Okay,
I'm
going
to
keep
in
contact
with
you
about
that,
because
when
we
built
our
home,
which
is
on
the
same
side
of
the
street,
just
you
know
a
few
few
yards
down
from
your
building
site.
Basically
at
the
time,
boise
slapped
the
code
on
us
and
on
other
people
on
the
north
side
of
hill
road,
and
they
said
they
put
a
blanket
code
on
every
construction
project,
not
just
our
home.
F
Every
construction
project,
north
of
on
the
north
side
of
hill
road,
stating
explicitly
that
each
home
must
be
on
an
engineered
three
foot
high
pad
of
earth
in
order
to
prove
to
help
prevent
earthquake
damage.
This
was
shortly
after
the
city
discovered
that
it
had
allowed
the
engineers
to
construct
on
the
hillside
on
the
opposite
side
of
town,
where
that
earthquake
and
landslide
occurred
and
houses
washed
down
the
hillside
and
road
was
was
wrecked
and
so
forth.
F
Our
builder
at
the
time
received
the
notice
when
we
as
we
were
starting
on
construction
and
we
had
to
put
a
three-foot
pad.
We
had
to
pay
for
a
three-foot
pad
to
be
put
under
our
house,
even
though
our
home
was
actually
not
constructed
on
foothills
property.
F
So
I'm
just
saying
that
you
better,
be
you
better
understand
that
this
is
a
city
code
and
it
was
enacted
and
we
had
to
conform
to
it.
So
if
there's,
if
it's,
if
the
code
is
being
removed
for
some
reason,
that's
suddenly
now
that
there's
no
earthquake
problem,
then
we're
going
to
have
to
do
an
investigation
into
why
it
was
applied
very
selectively.
So
I
just
wanted
you
to
be
aware
of
that.
That
is
a
code
and
it
is
going
to
be
applied.
C
Hi
jennifer-
this
is
kane
shaffer
with
the
city
of
boise.
Public
works
so
may
be
able
to
provide
some
clarification
here.
So
anything
in
the
hillside
area,
which
I
believe
the
city
maps
anything
north
of
hill
road
is
in
that
hillside
development.
All
developments
have
to
follow
our
hillside
technical
manual
requirements,
which
falls
under
category
3
on
the
items
they
have
to
provide
from
geotechnical
hydrology
report,
the
grading,
drainage
plan
and
everything
falls
under
that
code.
I'm
not
sure
on
your
on
the
earthquake
one,
but
I
know
for
this
project.
F
Okay,
would
you
provide?
I
would
like
to
talk
to
you
about
that
and
make
sure
that
that
requirement
is
still
in
the
manual,
because
if
it
has
been
taken
out
of
the
manual
and
the
developer
has
to
has
to
comply
with
the
manual,
then
what
we're
faced
with
is
a
situation
in
which
certain
people
were
required.
To
reply
to,
I'm
sorry
comply
and
other
people
are
not,
and
I
think
that
would
have
to
be
challenged.
F
So
if
we
could
communicate,
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
that
requirement
is
still
in
there
or,
if
not,
I'd
like
to
do
an
investigation
as
to
why
it
would
be
removed.
Since
earthquakes
have
not
stopped.
C
Understanding
happy
to
communicate
with
you
following
this
meeting.
E
Okay
and
jennifer,
just
to
add
real
quick.
We
haven't
updated
the
hillside
technical
manual
since
2002,
so
that
none
of
the
requirements
in
there
would
have
changed.
I
think
some
of
what
maybe
you're
thinking
about
would
be
required,
fill
for
your
lot
and
it
probably
had
to
be
tested
by
a
geotechnical
engineer
potentially,
and
so
that
would
be
if
you
had
more
than
three
feet
of
fill
underneath
your
footings.
That's
that's!
E
F
Okay,
thank
you,
and
no,
there
was
nothing.
This
was
virgin
land
and
it
was
not
on
the
foothills
slope,
even
if
even
so
we
were
told
just
because
it
was
north
of
hill
road
and
there
had
been
a
landslide
elsewhere
on
north
sort
of
north
side
of
hill
road-ish
that
all
development
on
the
north
side
of
hill
road
henceforth
was
required
to
be
put
on
an
engineered,
three-foot
path.
So.
E
Right
so
everything
on
the
north
side
of
hill
road
is
in
that
hillside
layer
like
kane
was
king,
was
describing,
and
so
everything
that's
in
hillside,
even
on
our
benches,
that
aren't
necessarily
in
the
foothills
do
have
to
comply
with
the
hillside,
technical
manual
and
the
hillside
code,
and
I'm
not
exactly
sure
you
know
on
your
specific
situation
about
about
what
you
know
all
the
specifics
were
for
that
construction.
But
it
is
true
that
you
know
any
of
the
the
hillside
zone
zoned,
even
if
they're
not
technically
foothills.
E
F
So,
in
other
words,
if
if
I
understood
what
you
said
correctly,
I
just
want
to
repeat
back
to
you,
but
I
think
I
heard
in
case
there's
any
question.
So
each
one
of
the
pads
for
the
12
homes
will
be
required
to
have
the
same
sort
of
three
foot.
Well,
I
don't
know
footing,
I
guess
would
be
the
correct
word
underneath
the
home
just
as.
E
Powers-
I
think
I
maybe
I
I
don't
want-
maybe
we
should
just
have
you,
you
know
call
it,
but
you
might
be
thinking
about
the
footing
depth
because
you
have
to
have
your
footing
at
least
two
foot
underneath
the
ground
for
frost
depth,
and
that
might
be
where,
because
we
there
wouldn't
be
any
sort
of
specific
three
foot
requirement,
but
they
will
be
required
to
have
all
their
soils
tested.
You
know
in
their
their
footings,
designed
once
we
get
into
home
development.
E
F
Okay,
I
think
I'll
do
that
and
I'll
have
our
builder
in
on
that,
so
that
he
can
clarify
specifically
what
he
had
to
do
and
what
it
cost
to
make
sure
that
the
rules
are
applied
uniformly
to
the
new
development
as
they
were
applied
to
us,
and
the
other
question
also
that
I
had
is
in
the
interest
of
safety.
Will
each
home
be
required
to
have
an
in
an
entire
in-home
sprinkler?
D
Jennifer
again,
this
is
ben
simple,
with
the
design
team
on
the
project
we
are
conditioned
by
from
the
fire
department
that
each
home
will
have
a
fire
suppression
system
within
the
homes.
That
was
part
of
the
comment
letter
that
we
got
from
the
fire
department
for
the
hillside
review.
D
So,
yes,
we
will
have
not
only
will
we
be
installing
well.
First
of
all,
part
of
this
development
involves
running
about
1800
feet
of
water
main
in
hill
road
in
order
to
bring
municipal
water
service
to
this
lot
into
this
property.
So
not
only
will
it
be.
C
F
D
And
and
jennifer
we
will
be
at
planning
and
zoning
as
well
as
city
council.
Both
public
hearings
both
will
be
well.
The
planning
and
zoning
hearing
will
be
posted
on
the
site,
so
that'll,
and
then
you
should,
if
you're
within,
I
think
it's
either
300
or
500
feet
of
this
property.
You'll
receive
a
direct
mailing
from
the
city
of
boise,
notifying
you
of
the
date
and
time
of
that
hearing
as
well.
F
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
and
yes,
I'll
look
forward
to
having
more
comments
there.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
thank
you
and
if
you
do
have
any
comments,
you
can
always
send
me
an
email
and
I'd
be
glad
to
include
him
into
the
project
report.
Thank.
B
B
This
is
david
moser
with
current
planning.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
let
you
know
if
anybody's
out
on
on
the
on
the
youtube
watching.
Thank
you
for,
for
this,
we're
actually
going
to
call
it,
since
nobody
else
has
jumped
on
to
ask
any
more
questions
regarding
grading
and
drainage
associated
with
the
site.
So,
but
if
you
do
have
any
further
questions,
don't
hesitate
to
to
contact
me.
My
email
is
dmozer
at
cityboise.org
and
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
B
You
can
also
find
additional
contact
information
for
for
for
me
off
the
the
pds
website
for
the
city
of
boise,
and
I
can
definitely
try
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
regarding
the
the
project.
The
zoning
zoning
issue
subdivision
and
I
can
try
to
answer
any
questions
regarding
grading
and
drainage
or
forge
it
onto
the
correct
person.
But
thank
you
all
and
the
this
work
session
is
closed.
Thank
you.
Bye.