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Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 4:00 PM MDT
A
All
right,
I
will
go
ahead
and
call
this
meeting
of
the
city
of
boise
public
works
commission
to
order,
and
I
will
start
with
a
quick
roll
call
to
let
us
know
who's
here.
So
please,
let
me
know
if
you're
here,
when
I
call
your
name,
commissioner
ellis
here,
commissioner
crowley,
commissioner
hilton
commissioner
morgan,
commissioner
colette.
B
A
D
E
Great
sorry,
I
couldn't
be
there
in
person,
I'm
actually
I've
got
covid,
so
I'm
I'm
quarantined-
and
I
have
my
handy-dandy
cough
drops
so
because
I
will
start
coughing
at
some
point,
so
I
apologize
for
that
as
well.
So
our
first
item
is
going
to
be
covered
by
peter
mcauliffe,
our
solid
waste
program
manager.
E
F
F
So
our
compost
program
has
been
really
successful
and
we
have
some
data
from
2021
on
the
amount
of
material
collected,
32,
000
tons
of
material
collected,
which
that
represents
31
of
the
waste
residential
waste
that
we
diverted
and
so
we're
really
proud
of
the
program.
It's
our
it's
our
largest
our
largest
diversion
program,
and
we
saw
a
four
percent
increase
in
the
rate
of
diversion
in
2000.
F
we
produce
approximately
25
000
cubic
yards
of
finished
compost
each
year.
That
varies
on
based
on
a
lot
of
things,
but
we've
noticed
that
it
varies
on
on
the
weather
and
if
you
have
a
lot
of
precipitation
during
the
growing
seasons
too,
and
just
to
give
you
a
an
idea
of
what
cubic
yards.
You
know
that's
three
by
three
by
three
in
a
cube,
but
a
full-size
pickup
truck
is
about
two
cubic
yards.
If
that's
filled
up,
sometimes
it's
hard
to
to
picture.
So
it's
it's
a
lot
of
material.
F
We
also
expanded
our
compost
facility
in
2021.
We
added
about
seven
and
a
half
acres
to
the
facility
that
allowed
us
to
accept
all
the
material
that
we
collect
in
the
program,
and
previously
we
have
had
to
you
know,
I
think,
when
the
compass
facility
was
originally
designed,
we
didn't
know
the
participation,
how
many
people
are
going
to
participate,
how
much
stuff
they
were
going
to
put
in
there.
So
when
it
was
originally
designed,
it
was
probably
a
little
under
design,
probably
a
little
smaller
than
it
needed
to
be.
F
So
we
were
having
to
divert
some
of
the
compostable
material
to
other
composting
facilities
and
about
13
of
that
in
the
last
year.
So
we're
really
excited
now
with
the
expansion
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
accept
all
the
material,
we're
also
working
on
a
seal
of
testing
assurance
certification
for
our
compost.
F
So
what
do
we
do
with
our
compost?
Originally,
when
we
started
the
program
it
was.
We
decided
that
the
priority
was
to
return
the
compost
that
the
customers
are
are
giving
us
the
compostable
material
that
they're
giving
us
and
give
it
back
to
the
community.
So
we
have
two
give-back
sites,
one
idaho
botanical
gardens
and
one
at
the
west
boise
water
renewal
facility,
those
are
permanent,
they're
open
all
year
and
people
can
come
and
get
a
pickup
truck's
worth
of
compost
at
either
of
those
sites.
F
We
also
have
a
community
give
back
program
where
we
deliver
compost
in
larger
quantities
to
community
organizations
and
to
like
community
gardens
and
neighborhood
associations.
That's
been
growing.
It's
we've
only
had
it
for
about
two
years
now,
but
it
it's
been
growing
and
the
community
likes
that.
So
we
we
try
to
save
compost.
For
that
also,
and
we
use
it
at
some
city
facilities,
we're
continuing
to
try
to
grow
that
and
and
use
it
as
many
places
as
we
can
at
the
city
parks
uses
a
lot
of
our
compost.
F
F
So
our
current
contract
is
with
timber
creek
recycling
they're
a
great
partner
of
ours.
They
also
do
composting
in
the
valley
and
it's
for
fifteen
thousand
cubic
yards
annually.
The
the
price
is
two
dollars,
fifty
and
two
dollars
and
fifty
cents
per
cubic
yard,
and
it's
a
three
year
contract
which
is
ending
in
october
of
this
year.
F
You
can
see
the
gross
sales
revenue
there
of
about
37
000,
we're
in
in
the
next
contract.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
we
really
want
to
increase
the
sort
of
visibility
of
the
pro
of
our
product
and
make
sure
that
there's
as
many
people
in
the
community
and
businesses
that
can
can
purchase
our
compost
so
we're
trying
to
increase
the
the
use
and
the
sales
and
and
and
make
sure
that
that
smaller
companies
can
also
participate
in
the
sales
process.
F
F
We're
gonna
retain
approximately
nine
000
cubic
yards
for
the
give
back
programs
that
I
spoke
of
earlier
and
to
have
a
little
extra
stockpile
because
you
just
never
know
what's
going
to
happen
or
if
we're
going
to
find
another
outlet
for
for
some
or
one
of
our
city
facilities.
You
know
once
more,
so
we
kind
of
want
to
keep
a
little
extra.
F
F
So
our
when
we
set
up
the
minimum
pricing
for
this,
it's
a
little
different.
You
know
steve
mentioned
the
the
farm
commodity
process
process
and
how
they
set
their
minimum
prices.
Unfortunately,
with
wholesale
compost,
we
don't
have
an
index
or
something
to
look
at
that.
That
just
says
this
is
how
much
you
should
sell.
You
know
wheat
for
it.
Doesn't
we
don't
have
one
of
those
for
compost
and
so
what
we?
F
F
That
gets
a
that
got
us
to
about
2.93,
and
so
considering
it's
a
three
and
it's
gonna
be
another.
Three
year
contract
we
rounded
up
to
three
dollars
per
cubic
yard
and
that
would
be
for
the
that'll
be
for
the
large
volume
lot,
because
that's
it's
a
similar,
similar
amount
of
product
as
in
2019
and
then
for
the
smaller
volume.
We
added
about
25
increase
in
that
price
to
go
to
make
that
go
up
to
about
two
four
dollars
per
cubic
yard.
F
It's
a
smaller
volume,
it's
not
as
much
of
a
of
a
risk
to
the
purchaser
as
purchasing
you
know,
the
large,
the
larger
volume
and
so
it'll
it's
a
little
more
expensive
and
our
projected
minimum
gross
revenue
from
from
this
price
structure
would
be
52
000
a
year.
So
a
little
bit
we're
trying
to
try
to
you
know,
move
that
up,
but
move
it
up
slowly,
so
we
still
have
demand
for
the
product
and
that,
of
course,
that
revenue
just
offsets
program
costs.
D
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
commissioner
ellis
yeah,
the
the
it
was
empty
and
it
was.
It
was
part
of
the
compost
facility,
so
the
original
compost
facility
included
that
land,
but
it
was
not
developed
as
a
place
where
we
could
put
windrows
and
actually
compost.
So
in
order
to
do
that,
you
have
to
have
certain
drainage
requirements,
you
have
to
have
what
they
call
a
pad
right,
and
so
it
was
just.
It
was
just
brush
right.
Yeah
thanks.
F
Sure,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Yeah
the
52
000
a
year.
As
I
said,
it's
a
small
program
offset
and
so
composting.
It
costs
approximately
about
two
million
dollars
a
year,
and
so
it's
it's,
not
a
money-making
operation.
It's
it's
designed
to
offset
the
all
the
waste
that's
going
into
the
landfill
and
to
help
the
landfill
last
longer.
So
we
don't
have
to
pay
for
a
new
landfill.
E
You
know,
maybe
you
would
jump
in
chair
sorry,
this
is
hard
being
remote,
but
when
we
instituted
the
compost
program,
commissioner
collette
it
was
about
a
3.17
per
month
rate
increase
per
customer.
Just
to
put
that
in
perspective,
like
what
is
the
cost
to
a
rate
payer
so
for
three
dollars
a
month,
they
can
compost
all
of
their
food
waste
garden
waste
which,
from
you
know
from
our
perspective,
it
provided
pretty
good
value
to
the
community.
So
just
put
that
that
cost
in
perspective.
E
C
Thank
you.
Mr
one
question
was
already
answered,
asked
and
answered
and
peter
I
was
wondering
in
the
event
you
have
a
contract
for
supply
x,
number
of
cubic
yards
of
compost
and,
for
some
reason,
you're
not
able
to
fulfill
the
terms
of
that
agreement.
Is
there
any
liability
exposure
to
the
city
as
a
consequence
of
that.
F
Thank
you
for
the
question,
commissioner.
We
write
into
the
contract
that,
if
we're
not
able
to
provide
the
full
amount
of
compost,
that's
contracted
that
we
have.
I
believe
it's
60
days,
either
60
days
or
90
days,
to
provide
that
compost
to
to
the
con
to
the
buyer.
And
if,
if
we're
not
able
to
do
it
by
that
time,
then
they
wouldn't
be
charged
for
it.
So
I
don't
believe,
there's
a
a
great
liability.
F
C
Thank
you.
The
other
question
I
had
is
what
what
the
feedback
has
been
from
from
those
that
are
participating
in
the
program
that
are
picking
up
compost
and
using
it
without
cost
the
citizens
that
that
are
that
are
using
the
product?
Have
you
gotten
feedback
from
from
those
folks,
and
what's
that
been
like.
F
Yeah
we
do,
we
do
get
feedback
from
from
the
residents
all
the
time
and
and
they
really
they
really
love
the
compost.
They
love
the
that
we
have
two
places
for
them
to
pick
it
up
that
it's
not
restricted
granted.
We
say
you
know
you
can
only
pick
up
two
cubic
yards
a
year,
it's
kind
of
tough
to
to
police
that
so
you
know,
they're
really
happy
with
it.
F
F
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question,
commissioner.
We
we
have
done
some
outreach
and
we
do
put
it
up
on
our
website
and
and
try
to
get
the
word
out
there.
I
like
the
ideas
of
working
with
the
schools
to
do
it
and
and
working
with
their
community
gardens.
I
believe
we
have
done
that
with
one
of
the
schools
before,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
can.
We
can
certainly
do.
A
H
F
So
our
our
recommendation
is
to
approve
the
36-month
minimum
compost
commodity
prices,
as
listed
the
request
of
the
would
be
that
the
commission
recommend
to
city
council
adoption
of
a
resolution
approving
the
minimum
price
list.
This
would
provide
authorization
to
the
public
works
director
or
his
desert,
his
or
her
designee
to
negotiate
compost,
sales
agreement
with
city
council
and
final
contract
approval,
and
you
can
see
our
suggested
motion
on
the
lower
portion
of
the
slide.
A
A
E
Thank
you,
chair
gabat,
this
topic's,
a
really
interesting
one
and
it's
it's
somewhat
complicated.
So
we've
got
a
fair,
a
fairly
I'll,
say,
detailed
presentation
of
what
we're
proposing
that
we,
like
the
commission's
approval
for
and
to
present
me
present,
the
information
is
going
to
be
diane
brown
she's,
one
of
our
craft
engineers
in
the
engineering
department
within
public
works.
She's
done
really
good
work
on
this,
and
we're
really
interested
to
hear
your
perspective
on
our
recommendation,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
it
over
to
dm.
I
So
first
we're
going
to
talk
about
where
the
lift
station
is
located,
which
is
in
the
30th
street
redevelopment
district
and
then
we'll
review.
The
existing
sewer
system.
Talk
about
the
sewer
study
that
we
completed
and
then
go
on
to
a
proposed
project
and
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
and
how
we
will
fund
it.
Review
portions
of
the
sewer
extension
policy
I'll,
provide
our
recommendation
and
suggested
motion
and
then
we'll
have
time
for
questions.
And
then
we
can
go
back
to
the
motion
so
30th
street
redevelopment
district.
Where
is
this?
I
I
I
That
was
the
zoning
and
that's
kind
of
what
is
reflected
in
what's
built
there.
Currently,
after
that,
when
the
district
was
created
and
we
provided
a
master
plan
for
the
area,
the
city
increased
the
zoning
option
up
to
c5,
which
is
the
downtown
core
zoning,
which
has
no
height
limits
and
fairly
minimal
setbacks
from
property
lines.
I
So
you
can
imagine
how
people
will
build
vertical
and
it's
not.
It
hasn't
gone
through
yet,
but
there
is
some
proposed
zoning
changes
that
will
also
increase
the
area
south
of
the
I-84
connector
to
that
c5,
or
what
they're
proposing
to
call
it
in
the
future
is
mx5
zoning,
so
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
potential
for
redevelopment
in
this
whole
corner
of
town
and
the
design
review.
Applications
that
we've
been
getting
are
in
excess
of
a
hundred
dwelling
units
per
acre
which
in
downtown
commonly
we're,
probably
more
sitting
around
from
20
to
50
currently.
I
I
I
So
what
we
call
those
facilities
are
pump
stations
or
in
this
case
I'm
calling
it
a
lift
station
and
the
pressure
pipeline
to
pump
it
up.
Hill
can
be
called
a
force
main
or
pressure
pipeline
pressure,
sewer,
there's
lots
of
different
names
and
then
eventually
gets
to
the
treatment
plant,
and
we
do
lots
of
other
things
there.
I
I
I
A
lot
of
the
sewer
is
built
in
the
50s
60s.
Some
of
it
is
concrete
or
clay
pipes
that
maybe
needs
rehabilitation
in
the
future
and
then
so
we're
expecting
to
do
some
work
here
pretty
soon
anyway,
and
some
of
these
pipes
were
built
below
minimum
slope,
which
causes
some
maintenance
issues
and
definitely
lowers
the
capacity
of
the
pipeline.
D
I
Also
identified
moving
some
pipes
out
into
the
street
out
of
alleyways
or
deepening
some
pipes
and
also
increasing
the
pipe
diameter
to
serve
the
increased
flows.
The
highlighted
green
area
is
the
phase
one
improvements,
that's
kind
of
what's
needed
to
serve
these
developments
that
are
incoming
in
this
area.
I
I
So
what
has
to
happen
right
now
is
build
building
the
lift
station
in
its
discharge
pipeline.
That's
what
needs
to
happen
for
those
three
incoming
projects.
They'll
also
have
to
build
a
little
bit
of
gravity
sewer
to
their
project,
but
the
whole
widespread
extent
of
the
study
that
work
can
happen
over
a
longer
period
of
time.
I
So
what
we're
proposing
now
is
to
build
a
new
lift
station
at
28th
street
and
main
a
530
feet
of
eight
inch,
four
spain
to
the
end
of
our
current
gravity,
sewer
and
then
upgrading
that
gravity
sewer
to
a
15
inch
pipe
diameter
to
where
it
will
connect
to
our
existing
36
inch.
Trunk
line
that
has
capacity
for
the
developments
and
the
projected
cost
of
design
and
construction
of
this
project
is
3.2
million
dollars.
I
How
are
we
going
to
fund
it?
Well,
thankfully,
it's
almost
net
cost,
so
capital
city
development
corporation
has
committed
2
million
dollars
for
the
infrastructure
improvement
of
this
project
and
that
can
be
available
to
the
city
under
a
memorandum
of
understanding
as
a
reimbursement
when
the
project
is
complete
and
that
money
is
available
october
2023..
I
We
also
are
currently
estimating
951
000
that
will
come
into
the
city
as
connection
fees
from
increased
capacity,
those
those
projects
that
are
getting
built
now.
That
number
is
an
estimate,
because
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
get
built,
it
could
be
a
little
bit
lower.
It
could
be
a
little
bit
higher,
but
it's
still
a
significant
amount
of
money
and
we
can
allocate
the
3.2
million
dollars
in
the
utility
fund
right
now
through
an
interim
budget
change
to
make
this
work
start
immediately.
I
G
G
D
D
A
A
E
You
excuse
me
thank
you
chair,
so
this
last
topic
is
a
pretty
exciting
one,
in
my
opinion,
not
that
the
others
weren't,
but
this
is
regarding
our
recycled
water
program
and
we
are
really
starting
to
roll
up
some
sleeves
and
and
have
some
pretty
pretty
in-depth,
intense
policy
discussions
around
the
recycled
water
program.
This
really
is
the
excuse
me,
the
first
time,
in
a
very
long
time
that
that
we're
starting
up
something
that
can
be
certainly
interpreted
as
a
a
new,
almost
new
utility
within
a
utility
right.
E
The
recycled
water
program
is
a
very
different
concept,
and
so
tonight,
haley
faulconer
this
afternoon,
hayley,
faulconer
and
royce
davis,
are
going
to
present
first
a
discussion
of
some
kind
of
strategic
direction
around
the
recycled
water
program.
That
we'd
like
to
confirm
with
you
all
and
then
give
you
an
overview
of
some
of
the
policy
topic
areas
and
one
policy
topic
area
in
particular
that
we're
going
to
be
coming
back
to
you
with
to
get
affirmation
on.
E
Our
hope
is
that
the
policy
discussions
will
turn
into
a
fairly
frequent
cadence
with
the
commission
that
will
be
coming
back
to
you
periodically
with
the
next
policy
discussion
and
affirmation
the
next
one.
After
that
policy,
discussion
and
affirmation
and
I'll,
let
haley
and
royce
talk
about
the
process
for
that
and
turn
it
over
to
them.
To
get
us
kicked
off
haley.
J
So
today
what
royce
will
present
is
again
that
touch
point
on
the
overall
program,
but
then
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we
mean
when
we
mention
policy.
What
is
that?
What
does
that
do
for
us
in
the
context
of
building
out
a
program
like
the
recycled
water
program,
and
how
will
it
help
us
inform
decision
making?
And
this
is
very
much
the
initial
conversation
and
a
couple
points
within
the
presentation
that
we
do
want
to
stop
and
ask
for
questions
and
feedback
and
really
reinforce
that.
J
This
is
the
beginning
of
this
policy
conversation,
but
hopefully
kind
of
a
new
newish
lens
or
sort
of
codifying
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
and
taking
in
things
like
the
stakeholder
engagement,
the
technical
details
and
putting
that
into
a
policy
that
then
helps
us
move
this
program
forward
in
a
way
that
reflects
those
pieces.
But
I
don't
want
to
take
up
royce's
time
so
he'll
jump
into
the
presentation,
then
we'll
be
here
for
discussion
and
questions.
K
So
we
have
the
utility
plan
and
then
we
also
have
the
climate
action
strategy
section,
18
specifically,
which
has
to
do
with
the
water
supply
and
resilience
which
talks
about
the
diversifying
the
city's
water
supply
and
preserving
groundwater
and
protecting
the
boise
river.
So
we
have
those
two
documents:
that
kind
of
lead
the
framework
for
the
recycled
water
program
and
help
us.
You
know
kind
of
lay
out
the
framework
for
what
we
can
do
with
the
recycled
water,
so
the
program
framework
which,
if.
K
Okay,
I
was
missing
a
slide
in
there.
There
was
a
slide
in
there
originally
that
had.
I
wanted
to
recap
what
the
recycled
water
program
was
and
I'll
just
do
that.
So
it's
we
take
the
industrial
water
from
south
boise,
where
we're
currently
looking
at
and
we'll
take
that
industrial
effluent
and
it'll
go
into
a
recycled
water
facility,
which
is,
I
think,
the
last
presentation
we
talked
about,
the
ultra
filtration,
reverse
osmosis
and
the
granular
activated
carbon,
okay
and
then
once
it
goes
through
the
recycled
water
facility.
K
And
there
we
go.
Thank
you
haley.
So
that
was
the
quick
overview
of
the
program
goes
to
the
recycled
water
facility,
or
sometimes
it's
titled
the
third
facility
and
then
goes
into
groundwater
recharge
in
industrial
reuse,
with
the
two
that
we
laid
out
in
the
utility
plan.
So
that's
just
a
recap
of
what
the
program
is
and
then
to
talk
about
some
of
the
the
lanes
and
the
the
progress
that
we've
made
so
far
in
the
overall
schedule.
So
this
is
2022
leading
up
into
2029.
K
K
K
We
also
have
that
we
have
to
find
a
site
for
the
recycled
water
facility,
which
we
haven't
really
started
working
on
that
selection.
Yet
but
that'll
be
coming
up
in
2023,
there's
also
permit
applications
with
idaho
department
of
water
resources
and
idaho
department,
environmental
quality,
which
we'll
be
working
that
in
2023
and
then
there's
also.
We
talked
about
in
that
last
presentation
was
the
source
water
characterization
or
going
out
in
the
south
boise
and
drilling
wells
and
looking
at
the
groundwater
and
the
geological
characteristics
that
work
has
been
delayed
until
almost
a
year.
K
Really,
we've
had
a
hard
time
contracting.
Well,
drillers,
we've
looked
all
over
the
western
united
states
and
can't
find
anybody
to
come
drill
any
well,
so
it'll
likely
be
next
year
at
this
time,
we'll
be
doing
that
work.
So
that's
been
a
delay
in
the
program
and
then
once
we
finish
that
work,
obviously
construction
from
26
to
29
and
then
hopefully
in
2029,
we'll
have
the
facility
up
and
running
producing,
recycled
water.
K
And
again
kind
of
how
this
funnels
into
decisions
that
we
make,
we
have
the
utility
plan
climate
action,
road
map-
you
know
water
program
strategies
and
what
we're
currently
working
on
now
and
we
look
forward
to
getting
your
input
on,
is
the
the.
Why
and
the
how
that
we
do
this
right.
How
do
we
take
water
and
produce
recycled
water
which
will
lead
to
outcomes
and
then
eventually,
we'll
have
policy
development
which
we'll
also
be
working
on
in
the
next
couple
years?
K
So
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
as
a
team
trying
to
develop
what
we
call
our.
Why
statement,
which
is
I'll,
go
ahead
and
read
this?
Why
recycled
water-
and
this
is
something
that
hopefully
will
make
sense,
so
the
recycled
water
program
will
help
preserve
groundwater
for
drinking
purposes,
to
address
climate
impacts,
provide
long-term
stewardship
over
water
resources
and
protect
the
boise
river.
K
K
K
The
second
thing
we'll
do
is
increase
resilience
to
water
scarcity,
which
is
by
producing
a
new
water
supply.
So
you
have
surface
water,
groundwater
and
now
we'll
have
recycled
water,
which
adds
to
that
that
water
supply
for
the
community
and
then
the
third
is
to
demonstrate
regulatory
stewardship,
which
I
like
to
kind
of.
Think
of
that
one
is,
you
know,
planning
for
the
future
regulatory
needs,
so
the
recycled
water
facility.
We
use
a
lot
of
new
technology
and
that
will
help
us
plan
for
meeting
future
regulatory
limits
in
those
types
of
things,
conditions.
K
K
D
D
K
D
K
D
K
B
B
F
K
E
G
Hi,
yes,
I
had
a
question
on.
How
did
you
get
these
expectations?
I
think
they
aligned
like
really
well
with
what
we
were
envisioning,
or
at
least
I
was
envisioning
for
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
clarity
if
this
was
determined
through.
Like
the
I
knew
there
were
a
lot
of
listening
sex
sessions
and
focus
groups
if
that
was
determined
through
those
or
if
it
was
a
combination
of
other
things.
I.
K
Would
say
it's
a
combination
of
the
utility
plan,
the
the
listing
tour,
the
community
engagement
and
then
the
meetings
that
we've
had
with
the
different
stakeholders
coming
out
what
you
know,
we
kept
track
of
what
everybody
the
priorities
and
comments
that
they
made,
and
you
know
we
were
able
to
figure
out
what
the
majority
said
and
that's
what
we
tried
to
include
in
that.
Why
statement
yeah.
J
In
that
case,
it
was
like
the
portfolios
of
water
options,
did
that
align
with
what
we
had
heard
and
so
the
same
model
here
where
we
went
out
and
heard
sort
of
the
values
that
the
community
we
heard
from
you
all
heard
from
those
sessions
took
those
and
then
developed
internally
developed
these
statements
to
hopefully
reflect
what
we'd
heard.
But
this
is
our
initial
round
of
testing.
Does
it?
Did
we
hear
adequately
and
have
we
produced
a
how
and
a
wide
set
of
statements
that
match
what
you
expect.
E
And
I'll
tag
team
that
a
good
example
was
when
you
all
told
us,
we
asked
what
resonates
with
you.
When
we
talk
about
the
aquifer
groundwater
et
cetera
you
all,
I
think
I
think
it
may
have
been
unanimous
groundwater,
so
you'll
see
when
we're
talking
in
our
the
talking
points
in
the
house,
the
y's
we're
consistently
talking
about
the
groundwater.
E
In
the
past
we
talked
about
up
for
recharge.
Well,
that
wasn't
resonating,
so
we
heard
from
you
all
the
better
way
to
phrase
it
was
groundwater
right.
So
that's
just
one
example
of
how
we're
trying
to
integrate
the
feedback
that
stakeholders
are
giving
us
so
that
we
can
better
communicate
what
it
is
that
we're
trying
to
accomplish,
and
then
just
one
other
thing
to
add
to
royce's
point
and
to
commissioner
collett's
question
about,
like
the
percent
of
what
this
new
facility
will
treat.
E
Excuse
me.
I
would
also
add
that
this
you
know
the
the
flow
that
we're
diverting
is
also
an
interesting
flow
in
that
the
micron
facility
in
boise
is
an
r
d
facility,
and
so
what
they
send
to
lander
street
in
west
boise
can
vary
greatly,
as
one
would
expect.
They're
trying
they're
trying
different
processes
and
new
approaches
to
chip
manufacturing.
E
We'll
get
the
first
five
million
gallons
per
day
set
and
then
let's
say
a
company
really
wants
to
come
to
boise
we
can
say:
look
we
can
add
on
another
treatment
train
very
quickly,
it'll
be
designed.
So
you
can
kind
of.
This
is
easy
for
me
to
say,
but
plug
and
play
like
we
can
throw
another
train
on
very,
very
quickly,
we'll
be
following
that
same
kind
of
set
of
treatment,
trains
that
precede
it
and
kind
of
replicating
that
so.
B
B
So
I
think,
just
to
kind
of
tag
on
to
what's
already
been
discussed,
so
I
think
in
any
kind
of
sort
of
statements
that
we
that
we
put
out
to
public.
You
know
when
we're
talking
about
this
new
facility.
I
do
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
some
of
those
quantifiable
numbers
out
there,
so
that
people
could
you
know,
because
they
may
have
heard
that
we
have
treatment
facilities
they
may
not
have
heard,
but
to
kind
of
understand
what
the
city
is
already
doing.
What
additional
capacity
this
would
add.
D
A
Right
and
a
slight
counterpoint
to
that,
I
don't
want
us
to
get
lost
in
the
data
in
the
numbers
as
well
as
we
are
talking
to
the
community.
I
think
that,
knowing
that
this
is
sort
of
the
kind
of
modular
ounce
of
prevention
to
keep
some
of
our
more
difficult
constituents
out
of
our
regular
treatment
facilities
is
perhaps
a
pretty
good
phrasing,
and
I
think
that
is
captured
fairly
well
in
the
the.
A
K
K
You
know,
and
it
documents
those
policies,
it's
transferable
to
the
public,
the
community,
and
then
we
can.
You
know
people
ask
us
why
we
did
things
we
can
refer
to
the
policy
and
which
gives
us
the
reason
why
we
did
that
and
then
also
decisions
informed
by
policy
are
aligned
with
the
community
values.
K
So
we,
as
we
talk
to
the
community
and
the
stakeholders,
we
can,
you
know,
get
their
input
on
the
policies
and
help
us,
you
know,
shape
those
policies,
so
we
can,
you
know,
basically
form
them
together,
so
they
make
sense,
one
that
we've
been
working
on
in
the
next
couple
years.
What
we
call
our
priority
policies-
and
these
will
kind
of
as
steve
talked
mentioned
earlier
as
they
they'll
come-
you
know
one
after
another,
basically
over
the
next
two
years,
these
different
policies
will
bring
them
and
get
your
input
on
them.
K
The
first
one
that
we're
working
on
is
the
highest
and
best
use
policy,
which
is
really
you
know,
establishing
a
market
development
and
really
what
we
do.
What
is
best
for
the
recycled
water
right?
Is
it
industrial,
reuse
or
groundwater
recharge,
or
is
it
irrigation
or
is
it
on
irrigating
city
facilities,
providing
water
to
city
facilities
or
different
opportunities?
We
have
for
the
water
and
that
highest
and
best
use
policy
will
be
the
first
one
that
we
bring
back
to
the
the
commission.
K
K
So
there's
the
authority,
water
authority
policy,
the
service
expansion
policy,
which
is
you
know
as
we
grow
the
recycled
water
and
we
have
maybe
it's
a
new
industry
that
would
like
to
discharge
to
the
recycled
water
facility.
What
water
quality
standards
or
requirements
do
we
set
so
that
they
can
be
allowed
to?
You
know,
expand
the
amount
of
water
that
we
bring
into
the
facility,
so
we
have
to
work
on
on
the
requirements
of
that
water,
quality
and
quantity
as
well
right.
So
how
much
can
we
take?
K
The
good
neighbor
policy,
which
is,
I
think,
you
know,
community
engagement,
education,
workforce
development
as
we're.
If
we
end
up
in
south
boise,
you
know,
how
can
we
be,
you
know,
set
policies
so
that
we
can
be.
You
know
good
neighbors
to
everybody
around
us,
whether
it's
business
or
there's
communities
or
planned
communities
providing
water
to
them.
Those
types
of
things
that
we'll
set
policies
around.
K
And
then
organizational
authority
kind
of
like
steve,
said
where
this
is
a
utility
within
a
utility.
How
do
we
set
that
up?
You
know
charging
for
the
water
rates
collecting
funds,
all
those
types
of
things
which
will
be
in
the
organizational
authority
policy,
so
those
are
the
the
five
that
we'll
be
working
on
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
G
D
K
D
K
G
A
K
It's
a
great
question
sharon.
I
honestly,
I
don't
have
the
exact
details
of
that.
I
think
we've
we're
just
beginning
the
next
phase
of
community
engagement,
kind
of
we
did
that
first
phase
in
the
spring
and
early
summer
and
we've
had
the
summer
we're
getting
ready
to
start
the
second
phase
other
than
meeting
with
our
I'll
call
them
our
normal
stakeholders.
K
L
A
I
have
been
out
to
some
of
the
planning
and
development
services
zoning
code,
rewrite
community
meetings
and
some
of
the
information
there
has
proven
pretty
impactful
in
the
way
that
they
have
presented
it.
Both
the
in-person
meetings,
as
well
as
the
online
format
of
sort
of
outlining
what
the
current
proposals
are
and
the
methodologies
that
they've
used
to
incorporate
community
feedback,
and
if
we
have
sort
of
those
that
sort
of
skeleton
built.
A
K
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
royce.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
It's
actually
very
exciting
to
see
progress
being
made
in
this
particular
topic.
I
had
a
couple.
I
guess
one
is
a
kind
of
an
internal
question
is:
is
the
the
water
renewal
group
process
and
effort
going
to
be
kind
of
integrated
with
the
subcommittee?
That's
recently
formed
of
the
public
works
commission
on
water
renewal
in
general.
E
Take
this
one
chair,
commissioner
proudly:
yes,
our
intention
is
to
rout
like
we'll
have
in
the
subcommittee,
we'll
have
a
conversation
about
a
policy
piece
that
we
want
to
bring
to
the
the
commission
and
kind
of
have
a
a
working
session
around
okay,
here's
what
we're
thinking,
here's,
how
we
came
to
these
conclusions!
Here's
how
we'd
like
to
to
phrase!
Here's
here
are
some
of
the
key
considerations.
E
C
K
There
are
a
lot
I
would
say
over
the
country,
especially
you
know:
california,
arizona,
new
mexico,
texas,
even
washington
and
and
honestly,
as
far
as
to
my
knowledge,
they've
all
been
very
more
successful,
depending
on
what
they're
trying
to
accomplish,
and
things
like
that
and
but
we're
you
know,
try
to
keep
up
on
those
as
much
as
we
can,
but
yeah
they've
been
successful.
I
would
say.
C
K
C
This
is
really
significant.
The
the
priority
policies
issued-
I
think
vice
chair
else,
mentioned
this.
I'm
I'm
particularly
interested
in
the
second
one,
the
water
authority,
and
I
think
it's
a
discussion
we
should
probably
have
offline
to
start
with,
but
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to.
I
think
your
two
top
priorities
make
a
lot
of
sense
and
but
I
think
some
of
the
some
of
the
issues
associated
with
those
priorities
may
be
best
held.
The
discussion
may
be
best
held
offline.
K
Oh
sorry,
go
ahead,
oh,
I
was
going
to
say
that
you
know
where
there's
been
several
or
many
many
you
know
recycled
water
projects
done
in
other
parts
of
the
nation.
But
as
far
as
idaho
goes
it's
there's
only
been
a
few
very
small
projects.
So
it's
it's
pretty
new
for
for
idaho,
for
idaho,
department
of
environment,
quality
and
idaho
department
of
water
resources.
E
And
I
would
just
add
in
church
about
that
to
royce's
point
we
we
have
been
looking
at
some
of
the
other
programs
in
the
west
in
particular
that
have
been
successful
and
we're
certainly
emulating
the
parts
of
those
programs
that
have
been
successful.
That
said,
we
are
trying
to
do
it
a
little
bit
differently
in
boise,
in
that
I
think
the
community
engagement
piece
is
going
to
be
front
and
center
throughout
the
the
process.
E
E
Some
other
folks
have
done
it
this
way,
but
not
many,
and
so
I'm
excited
to
see
how
this
plays
out,
because
I
think
it
will
help
the
public
it'll
help
create
buy-in
with
the
public
that
they
feel
a
part
of
the
process
truly
a
part
of
the
process,
because
we
want
to
hear
from
them
and
hear
their
perspective.
So
I'm
excited
to
see
how
we
integrate
that
moving
forward.
J
And
share,
if
I
may,
I
think,
one
of
the
things
we've
recognized
that
differentiates
the
city
of
boise,
we're
not
reacting
to
an
imminent
crisis-
and
I
think
we've
mentioned
that
before.
But
I
do
think
it's
worth
mentioning
again,
that
we
are
proactively
planning
for
potential
future
states
and
planning
for
growth
and
capacity
needs
and
also
water
challenges,
and
then
to
commissioner
crowley's
comments
on
the
policies
and
kind
of
what
we're
learning
from
other
places.
J
I
think
you're
starting
to
hit
on
something
that
makes
these
policies
really
important,
is
taking
what
we're
learning
from
other
places,
but
then
really
making
them
authentic
to
boise
and
so
being.
A
good
neighbor
here
might
mean
something
different
than
another
program
or
it
might
come
at
the
forefront
in
a
different
sort
of
way.
Our
highest
and
best
use
could
look
different
than
another
place,
and
so
it's
allowing
us
to
learn
from
that
sort
of
national
and
international
expertise,
but
then
also
bring
it
hyper
local
and
test
it
against
what
our
community
needs
so
we'll.
J
K
E
Church,
excuse
me
just
a
couple
things
I
wanted
to
mention.
I
wanted
to
apologize
to
commissioners
morgan
and
alice
for
having
to
cancel
the
climate
action
subcommittee
first
meeting
that's
the
day.
I
got
my
positive
test
so,
but
I
apologize
we
had
to
cancel
kind
of
at
last.
Second,
so
we
were
not
able
to
have
our
first
climate
action
subcommittee
meeting.
We
did
have,
however,
have
our
first
water
renewal
subcommittee
meeting,
and
we
had
commissioner
crowley
and
commissioner
at
that
meeting.
No
no
major
items
came
out
of
that.
E
It
was
more
of
a
kind
of
a
meet
and
greet
establish
how
we
want
to
run
the
meetings,
a
standing
agenda.
I
gave
some
examples
of
kind
of
the
people
policy
type
issues
that
we're
going
to
be
bringing
to
the
subcommittee,
and
I
use
an
example
of
the
report
that
we're
developing
from
the
lander
street
water
renewal
facilities
program.
E
A
I'll
just
add
that,
as
a
participant
on
the
subcommittee,
it
is
a
very
clear
and
impressive
way
of
presenting
some
very
detailed
and
technical
information
that
I
look
forward
to
learning
more
and
to
my
peers
on
the
climate
action
subcommittee.
You
are
in
for
a
treat
when
you
get
your
your
meeting
once
once
your
subcommittee
kicks
off.
C
I
would
echo
the
chairs
comment,
stephen.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
productive,
I'm
looking
forward
to
future
discussions
and
getting
into
the
weeds
and
the
details
of
the
how
projects
move
along
and
the
effort.
That's
going
into
to
monitor
that
effort.
So
great,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
productive.
E
Well,
we're
looking
forward
to
it
as
well
it'll
be
a
good
check
on
some
of
the
major
projects
that
we're
doing
we're
moving
forward
with,
but
also,
as
I
mentioned,
the
policy
piece
as
well.
We
can
test
some
things
and
have
and
kind
of
choose
chew
on
some
some
concepts
in
the
subcommittee
meetings
chair.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
was
at
one
point
I
can't
remember
when
it
was.
There
was
excuse
me
some
interest
expressed
in
touring
some
facilities.
E
We
haven't
we
used
to
do
that
in
the
past.
I'd
really
like
to
start
getting
back
on
that,
and
so
at
some
point,
I'm
working
with
kathy
and
we're
trying
to
think
about
in
the
past.
What
we
would
do
is,
for
example,
we
you
know
we'd,
go,
give
a
tour
of
the
farm
20
mile
south
farm
for
the
commission,
and
we
actually
hold
our
commission
meeting
at
the
farm
and
then
tour
afterwards
or
beforehand.
E
It
comes
out
and
the
tours
you
can't
you
can't
substitute
you
can't
fake
it
either
so
know
that
we're
working
on
that
and
we'll
be
in
touch
with
trying
to
coordinate
schedules
in
the
coming
months.
It's
going
to
be
you
know,
it's
always
a
challenge,
but
just
something
to
be
aware
of
for
the
for
the
commissioners
to
know
that
the
I
can't
remember
who
asked
about
it,
but
it
didn't
fall
on
deaf
ears,
and
then
I
think
that
was
fake.
Excuse
me,
I
think
that's
it.
C
In
our
last
meeting,
we
moved
to
amend
the
agenda
for
the
july
meeting
to
remove
the
topic,
enhance
the
river
update
to
this
meeting,
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if,
if
that,
my
memory
served
me
correctly
or
not
on
that,
if
and
if
so
just
want
to
mention
that
that
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
do
anything
about
it.
But
I
know
there's
some
some
guidelines
about
sticking
to
the
agendas.
E
J
Yeah
chair,
commissioner
steve
my
apologies,
I
don't
know
ed
as
far
as
like
the
logistics
of
moving
it.
We
did.
I
think
the
motion
was
to
move
it
here.
I
think
I
ended
up
out
sick
and
there
was
a
couple
of
other
pieces
there
and
then,
of
course,
kate
who
would
normally
present
is
on
vacation
right
now.
So
I
think
that
was
just
a
miss
in
stating
august,
but
really
just
needing
it
to
be
at
a
future
meeting.
We
want
to
make
sure
when
we
bring
that
to
you
all
we're
prepared
with
the
information.
J
A
A
L
Hey
steve,
it's
ed!
Oh
ed,
great,
hey!
I'm
here
today!
Well,
it
sounds
like
it
wasn't
on
this
agenda,
and
so
we
can't
go
back
in
time
and
put
it
on
this
agenda.
I
think
that
the
I
think
staff
will
take
it
up
and
put
it
on
an
agenda
in
the
future.
I
don't
see
there
being
any
anybody's.
Any
substantial
harm
nobody's
gonna,
be
not
able
to.
You
know,
state
their
peace
about
it.