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March 2, 2022 @ 4:00
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Character,
vat
commissioners,
thanks
for
joining
us
this
evening,
the
first
item
we
have
up-
or
I
guess
the
second
item
we
have
up
on
the
agenda-
is
an
update
on
the
lander
street
facility
upgrades
and
as
you'll
recall
back
when
we
were
discussing
the
utility
plan.
One
of
the
primary
project
drivers
was
asset
replacement,
and
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
staff.
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E
Thank
you,
steve
and
again,
jim
pardee
city,
engineer,
joined
by
with
josh
baker,
our
program
manager
out
at
lander
street
and
here
to
provide
an
update
on
lander
street,
so
presentation
kind
of
overview.
The
agenda
for
today
I'm
going
to
provide
an
overview
and
background,
I'm
going
to
back
us
up
a
little
bit
because
I
think
it's
important.
We
all
kind
of
start
from
the
same
place
and
there's
a
lot
of
work.
That's
gone
into
this
previous
efforts.
E
E
E
It
kind
of
varies
depending
on
the
complexity
and
the
level
of
effort
needed
the
work
that
we're
doing
now
is
kind
of
at
that
very
upper
end
of
a
level
of
effort
and
complexity,
and
and
it's
it's
built
on
several
kind
of
stepping
stones
that
have
happened.
So
it
starts
with
the
plan,
the
utility
plan
and
back
in
october
of
2020.
E
We
we
got,
we
had
city
council
had
adopted
the
utility
plan
and
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
work
that
went
into
that.
That
was
led
by
haley
faulkner,
our
environmental
manager
and
and
a
lot
of
hard
work
that
kind
of
went
into
that
document,
and
this
ends
up
kind
of
setting
our
strategic
plan
for
the
next
several
decades.
E
One
of
the
things
that
is
great
about
this
plan
is
historically
a
lot
of
times
when
engineers
or
planners
or
designers,
go
out
and
kind
of
put
these
together
with
utilities.
It's
often
they
go
and
do
it
and
then
their
outreach
is
presenting
to
the
public
what
the
plan,
what
what
it
ended
up
being
on
this
one.
We
flipped
the
script
and
we
actually
started
with
a
tremendous
amount
of
public
outreach
and
one
of
the
things
I
like
that.
We
kind
of
call
this.
Is
it
this
this?
E
We
have
to
fund
these
projects
and
it
could
have
been
just
a
rate
structure
only
or
you
know,
look
at
a
rate
structure,
plus
a
bond
financing
component
and
we
brought
the
question
to
the
commission
also
went
to
city
council
got
direction
to
go
ahead
and
go
seek
voter
approval
for
bond
financing
and-
and
here
again
the
results
are.
You
know
we
had
over
80,
almost
81
percent
in
favor
of
doing
that.
E
E
So
with
with
most
projects
as
steve
kind
of
started
with
and
and
what
I
want
to
reiterate,
is
lander
street
was
built
in
the
1950s.
So
it's
it's
been
a
great
facility
and
a
little
credit
to
our
kind
of
operation,
maintenance
staff
out
there.
I
think
they
got
every
bit
of
mileage
out
of
there,
maybe
maybe
more
than
we
expected.
You
know
this.
E
This
odometer
is
turned
over
a
couple
times
on
that
plant
and
it's
a
credit
to
those
folks,
but
that
there
comes
a
time
you
have
to
retire
those
assets
so
most
of
most
of
the
projects
or
all
the
projects
that
we're
really
doing
out.
There
are
asset
and
kind
of
condition
replacement
it's
time
to
do
those,
but
we
often
never
want
to
just
replace
in
kind.
We
also
kind
of
want
to
look
forward
and
see
if
there's
other
opportunities-
some,
for
example,
adding
some
capacity.
E
We
know
the
city's
growing
we've
we've
seen.
You
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
rooftops
going
up,
we've
got
some
high-density
housing
going,
but
there's
also
the
level
of
components
you
know
related
to
industrial,
commercial
use
as
well,
which
supports
the
economic
activity
of
the
community
as
well
so
seeing
growth
from
many
many
many
different
perspectives.
E
So
as
we're
replacing
those
assets,
we
want
to
add
some
capacity
with
that.
Also
we're
getting
ready
to
have
our
regulatory
next
cycle
of
permits
come
through,
so
as
we're
doing
that,
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
leaning
forward
and
we're
setting
ourselves
up
to
make
sure
that
we're
considering
those
and
including
the
what's
coming
down
from
the
regulatory
side
to
be
included
in
these
projects.
We
certainly
don't
want
to
go,
build
something
and
find
out.
E
We
got
to
go,
build
something
different
because
the
regulatory
side
and
then
there's
the
community
expectation
side
and
as
a
reminder,
this
is
this-
is
a
way
to
connect
the
utilities
actions
to
the
broader
city
initiatives
and
they
include
things
like
sustaining
the
lower
boise
river
quality
to
support
multiple
uses
also
support
a
robust
and
vibrant
community,
protect
health
and
safety
recovery
cycle
and
renew
water
and
operate
a
cost-effective
utility.
So
we
feel
good
when
we
do
when
we
when
we're
doing
our
job
good
and
we
feel
good
about
it.
E
One
thing
I
think
we
can
count
on
in
is
is
ever-changing
landscape
and
we
never
really
know
what's
going
to
come
at
us-
and
I
I
kind
of
think
you
know
three
years
from
now,
as
these
projects
are
well
on
their
way,
we'll
probably
be
hit
by
something
that
we
never
thought
was
going
to
show
up.
So
it's
important
to
the
utility
we've
got
a
great
responsibility
to
deliver,
but
we
we
have
to
be
very
fluid
and
dynamic
in
order
to
kind
of
deal
with
those
things.
E
That'll
come
at
us,
the
knowns
and
the
unknowns.
So
we've
got
several
tools
in
place
and
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
go
over
these.
To
kind
of
give,
you
give
you
an
idea
of
how
we're
preparing
to
deal
with
that
and
the
first
one
is
the
business
case
evaluation.
This
considers
the
benefits,
costs
and
risk.
I
know
this
isn't
the
first
time
you've
heard
about
it,
but
this
is.
This
is
kind
of
the
department's
kind
of
north
star.
It's
it's
in
our
dna
and
dna,
it's
in
our
culture.
E
We
challenge
ourselves
to
look
at
as
their
other
operational
management
type
alternatives
that
are
there,
so
we
like
to
develop
as
many
reasonable
terms
as
possible
and
then
look
at
them
at
this
holistic
kind
of
view
and
find
the
lowest
kind
of
cost
of
that
total
asset
over
its
life
and
make
sure
that
we're
reducing
risk
at
a
reasonable
cost.
So
this
is
this
is
day
to
day
and
it's
it's.
We
don't
do
anything
without
phone.
The
bce
process
also
with
you
know
little
tips
of
the
hat
of
to
haley,
faulconer
and
kate.
E
Harris
with,
as
I
mentioned,
we've
got
a
permit.
That's
we
should
be
finalized
here
in
the
next
few
months
and
they
were
able
to
work
closely
with
the
idea
in
idaho
department
of
environmental
quality,
to
allow
some
regulatory
flexibility
that
doesn't
mean
we
don't
we
don't
get
out
of
doing
anything.
We
still,
we
still
have
to
meet
all
the
requirements,
but
we
end
up
having
more
flexibility
in
our
end
and
I
think
the
easy
way
to
explain
it
is
maybe
looking
at
phosphorus.
E
Funding
strategies
talked
a
little
bit
about
that.
We
could
have
just
been
rate
structure,
but
you
know
we.
We
came
to
again
the
commission
in
the
council
and
got
direction
to
go
ahead
and
kind
of
seek
voter
approval
for
the
bond
options
which
we
did
and
these
it
just
doesn't
stop
there.
Even
within
the
bond
options.
There's
several
different
strategies
that
can
be
used
and
we're
looking
at.
E
So
there
again,
you
know
we've
kind
of
got
the
strategy,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
different
alternatives
and
again
this
is
a
way
to
get
access
that
money,
and
you
know,
hopefully
in
a
way
cheap
money.
You
know
low
interest
loans
where
we
can
put
the
dollars
to
the
project
instead
of
paying
interest,
alternative
delivery
methods.
This
one's
josh
will
talk
more
about
this
one,
but
an
example
is
construction
management,
general
contractor,
that's
the
cmgc
that
we
talk
about,
and
this
is
this
is
provided
to
be
very
valuable.
E
This
is
where
we're
able
to
kind
of
bring
the
owner
the
designer
and
the
contractor
together.
At
the
same
time,
and
again
with
this
dynamic
market
construction
market,
it's
hard
to
know
what's
going
where
and
it
does
it
literally
changes
almost
day
by
day
at
times
and
who
better
to
know
that
than
the
people
who
are
in
that
business
being
the
construction
management
general
contractors
they've
got
other
projects
going
on.
E
They
have
their
pulse
on
things,
they
they
know
they're
looking
for,
they
know
what
could
get
us
and
what
kind
so,
by
having
that
entire
group
at
the
table
as
we're
making
design
design
decisions
they're
there
to
kind
of
help
us
and
we're
there
to
help
them
as
well,
but
we
can,
we
can
be
getting
costing
budget
the
cost
of
the
project
as
we
go,
so
we
don't
get
to
the
end
and
then
be
surprised
this.
This
ends
up
being.
E
So
this
has
been
a
very
valuable
tool
for
us
and
then
the
last
one
and
we've
got
more,
but
these
were
just
the
highlights
I
wanted
to
hit
was
a
program
project
management
technique,
so
we've
developed
a
project
delivery
model,
and
here
again
this
is
kind
of
kind
of
the
same
as
this
alternative
delivery
method.
But
the
project
delivery
method
is
it's
a
prescriptive
way
that
we're
going
to
kind
of
issue
projects
and
kind
of
walk
through
these
major
capital
projects?
E
Also
with
that
project
in
program,
tracking
josh
will
show
us
a
little
bit
of
that.
But
you
know
we
we,
you
know
we
like
to
kind
of
say
you
know
what
gets
measured
gets
managed.
I
think
it's
important
that
we're
watching
the
performance
of
our
projects,
and
you
know
we
don't.
We
don't
want
to
know
it
after
we
want
to
be
kind
of
forecasting
and
kind
of
looking
ahead
again,
allowing
us
to
course
correct.
E
If
things
are
coming
up
yeah,
you
know
we
understand
that
the
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
we've
got
limited
funds
and
we
have
limited
resources.
So
we
need
to
keep
those
projects
on
track,
and
this
is
something
too
that
we'll
be
back
to
we're
going
to
try
to
figure
out
a
way
to
share
this
with
the
commission
in
the
future.
E
E
This
is
another
new
new
tool
that
we
we're
going
to
kind
of
leverage
more
and,
if
you
think
about
it,
we're
going
to
have,
we
could
have
four
or
five
large
capital
projects
going
in
at
one
time
and
a
lot
of
times
you
carry
reserve
in
each
of
those,
but
in
a
way
we
can
kind
of
then
be
double
counting
and
tying
up
a
lot
of
money
in
in
just
reserve.
Contingency
funds
and
this
approach
will
actually
hold
some
of
that
money
at
the
management
level.
F
It
was
built,
it
was
actually
it's
got
a
cool
history.
It
was
commissioned
by
the
league
of
women
voters
in
1948
and
built
in
1950
and
brought
online,
which
the
really
neat
thing
about
that
is
the
the
city
of
boise
citizens
said
long
before
the
clean
water
act.
You
know
we
really
care
about
the
health
of
our
river.
We
want
to
do
something
to
you
know,
keep
the
water
clean,
that's
going
into
it,
so
they
invested
it
even
way.
Back
then.
F
Another
thing
to
note
that
jim
said
is
that
typical
design
life
on
these
facilities
is
about
50
years
and
we're
still
using
a
lot
of
that
existing
infrastructure
right
now.
So
we're
we're.
We've
well
used
this
infrastructure
and
it's
still
serving
us
very
well,
but
it's
definitely
time
to
to
peek.
Under
the
hood
and
take
a
look
at
things
going
on,
so
this
is
actually
a
slide.
We
showed
back
in
2019
when
we
went
off
on
phase
one
so
phase
one
is
shown
in
blue.
That's
the
project.
F
F
We
said
here's
a
3d
rendering
of
of
what
phase
one
is
going
to
look
like,
so
the
main
process,
components
that
we
were
looking
to
do
first
is
the
head
work,
so
the
headworks
is
where
we
remove
large
solids,
so
we're
talking
anything
bigger
than
about
six
millimeter
diameter.
So
you
know
we
get
action
figures
and
we
get
sticks
and
two
by
fours
and
rocks
and
everything
that
comes
down.
So
we
remove
everything
bigger
than
the
six
millimeter
there
in
the
head
works.
F
Most
of
that
goes
to
the
landfill
and
then
sells
where
we
do
our
main
influence
pumping,
and
then
we
have
the
uv
disinfection
facility,
which
is
where
we
use
uv
radiation
to
neutralize
pathogens
before
it
goes
out
to
the
river.
So
that
was
another
part
of
phase
one.
The
green
belt
access
path
and
public
restroom,
so
lander
street
used
to
connect
basically
directly
to
the
green
belt
and
it
came
across
public
works
property
and
we
needed
that
ground
to
be
able
to
build
the
next
ted
works
and
keep
everything
running.
F
So
what
we
did
is
we
worked
with
the
citizens
there
and
came
up
with
a
good
plan
to
say:
hey.
We
want
to
keep
your
access
to
the
green
belt,
so
we're
going
to
route
it
around
the
willow
lane
pond
and
then
bring
it
back
in
to
the
main
green
belt
there
and
we're
also
going
to
provide
a
restroom
which
we
had
to
demo
as
again
as
a
part
of
this
phase,
one
project,
so
that
was
part
of
it
and
then
the
last
thing
was
in
the
upper
right.
F
You
see
the
veterans
memorial,
parkway
access,
so
historically
lander
only
had
one
point
of
entry
and
for
a
wastewater
plant,
especially
a
real
critical
facility.
That's
it's
not
great
for
our
resiliency,
especially
since
it
crosses
over
a
canal.
It's
got
a
bridge
there,
so
we
wanted
to
have
a
secondary
access.
F
The
other
thing,
too,
that
we
conducted
a
lot
of
public
meetings
around
with
the
neighborhood
there
at
lander
and
one
thing
they
were
really
concerned
about
and
truth
be
told
we
were
really
concerned
about
too
was
the
amount
of
construction
traffic
in
the
in
the
decades
to
come,
coming
down,
lander
that
that
scared,
everybody,
you
know,
they've
got
school
bus,
pickups
and
everything
else.
It's
a
very
narrow
street,
it's
very
old
street.
F
So
one
thing
we
did
is,
we
said
hey.
We
want
to
work
with
achd
and
get
an
alternative
entrance
into
the
plant,
and
so
we
partnered
with
achd
they
did
making
a
kind
of
an
exemption,
because
bnp
is
a
arterial
road
and
they
don't
typically
like
to
allow
driveway
access
on
and
off
of
it.
We
worked
with
them,
we
got
it
approved.
F
So
now
we
have
a
permanent
access
point
there
off
veterans,
memorial
parkway,
where
we've
brought
in
nearly
all
of
our
construction
traffic,
everything
that
can
has
come
down
veteran's
mortgage
parkway,
so
it's
been
real
great
for
our
our
partners
there
in
the
community
and
also
for
our
our
own
crew.
But
this
this
is
the
neat
transition,
so
you
go
from
civil.
You
know,
3d
render
to
this
picture
was
taken
in
november
of
21
and
you
can
see
that
the
headworks
is
actually
there
uv
facilities
there.
F
The
vmp
ramp
has
been
installed
and
has
been
in
use
since
early
2020..
The
green
build
access
path.
Likewise,
early
2020,
it
was
completed
and
opened
to
the
public,
we're
just
finishing
up
a
few
quick
things
on
the
public
restroom
and
then
we'll
be
having
that
online.
The
headworks
in
the
uv
structurally
they're,
both
completely
built
and
we're
actually
in
the
middle
of
startup
right
now
and
I'll
get
into
the
schedule
here
in
a
little
bit.
F
F
It's
far
more
efficient
with
the
removal
than
the
old
facility
was
that
helps
us
with
our
own
m
costs,
helps
us
with
our
power
consumption.
We
have
better
odor
control,
which
is
really
great
for
our
neighborhoods
they're.
You
know
we're
really
close
it's
in
a
residential
area,
so
we
were
pretty
mindful
of
that.
F
We
did
add
quite
a
bit
of
resiliency
in
flood
proofing
with
elevations
and
different
things
of
that
nature,
and
it
does
set
us
up
to
hopefully
be
able
to
eliminate
a
pump
station
in
the
future,
thereby
saving
a
pretty
big
energy
cost.
So
we're
really
hopeful
to
be
able
to
leverage
that
here
after
phase
two
is
complete,
so
likewise
the
uv
facility,
so
the
equipment
for
uv
was
installed
in
the
90s,
but
the
channels
that
the
uv
equipment
sits
in
is
from
1950
and
it's
original.
F
So
there
it's
again
in
need
of
replacement.
The
the
new
uv
system
has
full
channel
redundancy
where
we
didn't
have
that
with
the
existing,
and
then
we've
also
upped
the
uv
dose
in
the
new
uv
facility
to
be
able
to
handle
those
future
regulatory
needs
that
we
see
coming
down
coming
down
the
track.
We've
added
resiliency
with
this
too,
with
floodproofing.
G
F
F
That's
the
existing
headworks,
so
most
of
that
building
has
other
stuff
in
it,
and
it's
actually
original
in
1950
and
we're
going
to
be
maintaining
that
because
it
has
a
really
cool
historical
value.
So
in
phase
two
part
of
it
is
we're
going
to
look
at.
How
do
we
repurpose
that
structure,
but
the
new
headworks
is
actually
slightly
bigger
in
footprint
than
the
old
one.
F
We
covered
ub,
the
other
big
part
of
phase.
One
has
been
upgrading
a
lot
of
our
utilities,
so
things
like
our
power
service,
utility,
water,
communications,
loops,
there's
been
a
tremendous
amount
of
work.
That's
gone
in
just
to
supporting
the
infrastructure
to
be
able
to
treat
the
water
at
lander
street,
so
that
has
taken
up
a
lot
of
our
time.
Most
of
that
work
is
actually
complete
now,
which
is
awesome,
but
it
definitely
was
a
was
a
major
part.
F
Okay.
So
let's
look
at
our
current
budget,
so
this
these
excuse
me
actuals
as
of
january
31st,
so
our
spending
we're
right
at
51
million.
The
original
budget
that
we
came
out
with
back
in
2019
was
65.4
million.
I'm
sorry,
I
should
have
said
this
before
this
is
all
inclusive.
This
includes
city
permits.
It
includes
our
design
costs,
our
construction
costs
special
inspections,
everything
so
that
percent
spends
about
78
spent.
We
have
about
14
million.
Remaining
of
that
we
have
done
a
recently
done
estimate
to
figure
out.
F
F
I
would
like
to
give
a
big
shout
out
to
you
know
our
managers
in
public
works.
They
really
helped
us
through
a
lot
of
the
pandemic.
You
know
this
project
got
started
in
2019.
What
was
it
like?
Three
months
in
shut
down,
you
know
and
kind
of
start
back
up,
so
there's
been
a
lot
of
hiccups,
but
we've
been
able
to
manage
those
really
well.
F
I
also
want
to
give
a
big
thank
you
to
our
team
and
jacobs
ron
and
caldwell
mcelveen,
who
are
our
external
partners,
and
they
really
we
kind
of
closed
in
as
a
team
and
said
how
are
we
going
to
get
through
this?
How
are
we
going
to
navigate
this
and
keep
this
on
track,
because
it's
really
important
for
the
city?
We
know
we
need
to
keep
everybody
safe
as
well.
F
So
we
did
we're
able
to
navigate
that
and
I'm
really
proud
of
our
team,
that
they
are
still
maintaining
and
we're
this
close
to
being
on
budget
right
to
the
end.
There's
a
lot
of
projects
in
the
treasure
valley
that
do
not
look
like
this,
so
we
are
very
fortunate
to
be
in
the
position
we
are
and
that's
really
the
same
story
with
the
schedule.
F
So
we
initiated
the
construction
in
2019,
but
the
design
started
back
in
2017
and
there
was
actually
work
done
before
me
back
in
2016
2015
2016.
To
get
to
this
point
and
we're
within
a
month
of
our
original
schedule,
which
is
pretty
amazing.
Again,
a
lot
of
hard
work
went
into
getting
that
schedule,
making
up
lost
time.
We've
recently
suffered
about
a
month
worth
of
delay
with
some
supply
chain
issues.
F
C
Hey
josh,
this
is
larry
crowley,
I'm
just
curious
during
it's
actually
two-part
question
during
phase
one:
was
there
any
reduction
in
the
operation
at
the
lander
street
project
and
the
same
question
for
phase
two?
What
do
you
see
with
respect
to
any
impact
on
operation
atlanta
during
the
construction
of
phase
two.
F
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question.
So,
with
respect
to
phase
one,
we've
been
able
to
pretty
much
maintain
our
current
flow.
We
have
had
some
pretty
major
breaks
in
the
system,
not
related
to
construction
that
have
caused
us
to
lower
our
flow
for
a
few
days,
but
we've
been
able
to
maintain
that
on
the
people
side
of
things
you
know
our
operations
staff
has
really
stepped
up
to
the
plate.
They've
worked,
you
know
really
hard,
given
us
a
lot
of
their
time
to
help
make
the
process
better.
F
We've
definitely
put
a
burden
on
them,
but
they've
certainly
risen
to
the
occasion.
With
regard
to
phase
two
phase,
two
will
be
and
you'll
see,
kind
of
in
the
presentation.
It's
gonna
be
more
invasive.
We're
gonna
have
to
restrict
flow
in
some
instances,
just
to
be
able
to
get
our
work
done.
We're
gonna
minimize
that
as
best
we
can
we're
going
in
with
a
pretty
robust
plan
of
how
we're
going
to
do
things
like
temporary
pumping
and
that
sort
of
thing.
F
But
you
know
we're
going
to
do
everything
we
can
to
maintain
the
flow
that
we
got.
We
work
really
closely
with
west
boise
so
that,
if
we
say
hey,
we
gotta
lower
the
flow.
We're
west
voice
is
like
okay,
we're
ready,
you
know
or
west
boise
may
say
we
we
can't
take
it.
So
you
guys
are
gonna,
have
to
change
your
schedule
to
be
able
to
do
it.
So
we're
working
really
closely
kind
of
as
a
utility
between
those
two
facilities.
D
Just
something
to
add
trigger
vat,
josh
mate
alluded
to
our
ability
to
flow
switch
between
west
boise
and
lander.
That's
a
credit
to
some
folks
that
made
some
really
smart
decisions
years
ago
to
give
us
that
flexibility-
and
that's
not
always
the
case
in
other
cities
that
have
multiple
facilities
so
to
josh's
point
we
we
can
if
we
run
into
a
hiccup
or
there's
some
construction
piece.
That's
just
gonna
impact
our
ability
to
treat
it
lander.
We
can
then
shift
flow
to
west
boise,
giving
them
a
heads
up
course.
C
D
Czech
reven
commissioner
crowley
yeah,
that's
all
been
funded
through
rates.
We
haven't
issued
any
debt
yet
related
to
the
bond,
and
so
that's
coming,
probably
in
the
next
several
months.
Heather
is
going
to
be
presenting
to
you
on
some
options
for
our
first
debt
issuance,
but
all
of
the
improvements
minor
street
phase,
one
improvements
have
been
funded
through
rates.
D
B
I
did
yes.
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
say
the
fact
that
they've
been
able
to
stick
to
budget
and
stick
to
the
schedule
is
ridiculously
impressive.
Yeah,
I'm
a
construction
manager
and
it's
it's
virtually
impossible
to
keep
track
of
cost
right
now.
We,
from
day
to
day,
see
costs,
go
up.
Hundreds
of
thousands,
and
so
the
question
that
I
have
is
how
on
earth
did
you
manage
to
do
that?
B
F
Yeah,
it
was
a
we
we
did
go
in
with
about
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
worth
of
contingency,
which
is
actually
pretty
low.
In
my
opinion,
for
you
know,
kind
of
what
we
had
going
on,
it
is,
and
so
one
one
thing
that
we
we
we'd
kind
of
joke
about
this.
We
were
the
quintessential
toilet
paper
hold
hoarders.
When
all
this
happened,
we
said
well,
what
pipe
do
we
need
for
the
project?
What
wire,
what
conduit
we're
going
to
get
it
all
on
site?
F
It's
going
to
be
terrible
because
we've
got
to
stack
it
up
in
condex
boxes,
but
we're
going
to
get
it
here,
so
we
can
buy
it
under
current
prices,
because
our
team
really
looked
and
said.
We
know
this
is
going
bad
and
we're
going
to
do
everything
we
can
and
then
we
did
a
lot
of
work
throughout
to
make
sure
that
we
were
making
really
smart
decisions
with
how
we
were
constructing
the
project.
So
we
were
able
to
eliminate
big
shoring
costs
that
we're
going.
F
You
know
crazy
out
of
control
by
increasing
the
duration
a
little
bit
changing
the
way
our
footprint
was
going
to
work
with
our
operations
folks.
So
we
did.
We
had
a
lot
of
savings
that
way
and
then
we
partnered
really
well
with
our
subcontracting
community.
We
were
able
to
stay
working
for
most
of
it.
F
We
had
about
a
two
week,
shutdown,
but
then
we
were
able
to
get
a
plan
together
to
bring
everybody
back
safely,
so
we
just
kind
of
kept
rolling
and
really
watching
the
market
making
sure
we
were
thinking
far
enough
ahead
of
what
needed
to
be
done,
and
we
did
have
a
benefit
too,
because
a
lot
of
the
bid
work
all
of
it
was
done
before
the
pandemic,
so
the
bids
came
in
in
late
2019
and
then
we
were
able
to
go
to
council.
So
everybody
kind
of
already
knew
what
was
going
to
happen.
F
B
It
does
yeah
well
because
I
mean
we're
at
the
point
where
we're
seeing
people
will
have
contracts
with
people
and
they
just
flat
out,
won't
honor
it
because
they
can't
get
them
even
close
to
those
prices
anymore.
So
I'm
curious
as
to
going
into
phase
two
and
three.
What
is
your
strategy
to
kind
of
maintain
the
same
pace.
F
D
Thank
you
sure,
just
a
reminder
for
the
commission.
We,
as
part
of
some
of
the
adjustments
we're
making
to
prices
and
estimates
moving
forward.
We
try
to
account
for
what
we
think
is
coming
in
the
next
four
to
five
years,
so
we
had
an
increase
in
our
assumption
on
inflation
rates,
and
then
we
had
an
increase
in
our
assumption
on
material
costs.
D
Labor
costs,
et
cetera,
so
you'll
see
that
in
the
cost
estimate
you
see
here,
josh
and
the
team
have
done
a
bang-up
job
on
just
making
sure
that
we're
being
realistic
with
our
cost
estimates
and
not
trying
to
sugarcoat
some
of
the
challenges
that
are
coming,
I
think
that's
going
to
pay
off
in
the
future.
That
does
impact.
Certainly
you
know
that
impacted
the
bond
amount
that
we
asked
for
that.
F
Thank
you.
So
I
first
want
to
set
the
stage
you
know
the
people
side
of
this
is
really
important,
who
our
team
is
going
into
phase
two,
and
so
we
have
partnered
with
jacobs,
brown
and
caldwell
they're,
the
engineering
team
and
mcelveen
construction.
They
are
the
cmgc's
team,
so
we
are
delivering
this
in
what
we
call
an
alternative
delivery
fashion
under
cmgc,
and
the
biggest
advantage
of
this
is
that
we
get
the
contractor
on
board.
F
We
get
them
partnered
with
the
engineers
early
on
and
then
mcelveen
will
have
a
significant
say
in
the
way
that
the
the
design
goes
for
the
engineer,
so
they're
going
to
be
able
to
look
at
things
and
go
hey.
If
we
tweak
this,
we
can
build
it
for
far
less
money
or
we
can
do
it
a
lot
safer
and
that
worked
really
well
in
phase
one,
and
we
want
to
build
on
that
with
phase
two.
F
This
is
the
same
team
that
we
had
in
phase
one,
and
it's
really
a
unique
opportunity
for
us
to
be
able
to
come
together
and
continue
on
a
really
and
we've
got
a
good
momentum
right
now,
and
we
want
to
continue
that
momentum
on
here
into
the
future
and
I'm
really
excited
about
that.
But
the
cmgc
method
really
helps
bring
that
team
together
and
solidifies
it
early
and
that
that
really
helps
with
the
quality
of
the
design.
It
helps
the
execution
it
helps
with.
F
F
F
Excuse
me.
So
as
far
as
the
individual
components,
these
are
the
big
components.
So,
first
that
picture
on
the
left
is
actually
a
picture
of
the
wall
of
the
primary
clarifier.
That's
currently
in
use
out
at
lander,
you
can
see
the
exposed
aggregate,
and
what
that
is
is
that
damage
from
hydrogen
sulfide
gas
and
hydrogen
sulfide
gas
is
something
we
deal
with.
F
A
lot
at
wastewater
facilities-
and
we
need
to
monitor
that
really
well
and
part
of
that
odor
control
system
that
you
saw
for
the
headworks
is
actually
to
mitigate
that,
but
we
conducted
bces
and
we
prioritized
what
our
biggest
needs
are
at
lander
and
at
west
and
at
the
prf
we
said
these
are
the
projects
that
we
need
to
go
do
and
the
primary
clarifiers
are
one
of
them,
so
its
specific
drivers,
its
condition.
You
know
it
was
built
in
1950,
so
we've
gotten
70
years
out
of
it.
F
That's
that's
amazing
and
we're
going
to
be
ended
up
with
probably
75
years
by
the
time
it's
actually
built
the
new
one's
online
as
a
part
of
that
project.
We're
going
to
hit
capacity
as
well,
so
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
our
capacity
meets
what
the
utility
plan
has
set
for
us
forth
for
us
to
do,
and
then
you
know
everything
is
tied
to
regulatory
too.
So
we
have
a
fermentation
process.
F
That's
a
part
of
the
primary
clarification
system,
that's
directly
related
to
our
biological
phosphorus
removal,
and
because
of
that
you
know
this
has
a
regulatory
driver
as
well.
So
going
back
to
that
picture
that
or
the
slide
that
jim
showed,
with
the
pyramid,
we're
really
hitting
all
of
those
major
points
there
with
all
of
these
projects.
F
F
This
is
where
we
do
the
ammonia
removal
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
our
permit
goals
and
the
secondary
system
was
also
built
in
the
1950s,
the
concrete's,
in
much
better
shape,
because
there's
not
as
much
hydrogen
sulfide
gas
in
that
system,
but
the
mechanical
pieces,
like
you,
can
see
on
the
left,
they're
in
pretty
dire
need
of
need
of
replacement
and
some
tlc
and
so
part
of
this
project.
A
big
portion
of
it
is
to
go
in
and
really
retrofit.
F
The
secondary
system
bolster
it
up,
make
it
more
resilient
and
then
set
us
up
for
our
future
regulatory
needs
as
well.
So
jim
mentioned,
we
have
a
combined
load
permit
coming,
which
means
that
we
can
have.
You
know
the
phosphorus
removal
facility,
lander
street
and
west
boise
are
all
tied
together
with
phosphorus
removal.
D
Josh,
I
can
jump
in
real,
quick,
chair
gravatt.
This
is
a
good
example.
Jim
was
talking
about,
like
it
can
be
easy
to
pivot
to
just
construction
solutions.
In
this
case,
we
took
the
time
to
do
a
structural
assessment
of
the
the
secondary
system
and
the
old
clarifiers,
and
recognize
that
we
still
have
a
fair
amount
of
remaining
useful
life
there.
So
part
of
that
management
strategy
was
to
take
the
time
to
do
the
asset
assessment
and
then
determine
whether
we
needed
to
to
replace
that
concrete.
F
Thanks
steve,
the
the
third
major
process
portion
of
this
is
the
tertiary
filtration,
jim
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
our
regulatory
toolbox
of
our
or
our
toolbox
of
regulatory
flexibility,
and
you
know
to
echo
what
steve
just
said.
We
conducted
another
bce
as
a
utility
that
said:
okay,
a
business
case
evaluation.
What
is
the
the
best
thing
for
our
utility
moving
forward?
F
F
F
So
the
anticipated
budget,
the
numbers
that
you're
seeing
on
the
screen
right
now
are
in
first
quarter
2021
dollars.
They
have
not
been
escalated
from
that
estimate.
Mcelveen
did
complete
the
construction
portion
of
this
estimate,
but
that
number
that's
emboldened.
The
169
number
is
an
all-in
design
permitting
cost
all
our
program
costs
any
internal
costs,
construction
designs,
all
included,
and
this
matches
with
what
heather
has
in
the
cip
right
now
and
for
clarity.
F
F
We
also
include
a
range
on
this,
so
the
level
of
detail
is
not
very
great.
You
know
for
where
we're
at
right
now
we're
asking
to
go
forward
with
the
design,
so
we
can
get
better
clarity,
but
we
do
provide
a
range
there,
just
to
say
eyes,
wide
open,
we're,
not
sure
where
this
is
going
to
land
it's
going
to
be
somewhere
in
there.
We
think
it's
going
to
be
169,
but
you
know
we
also.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
that
could
be
changing
too,
so
we
we
provide
that
there
for
clarity.
F
A
quick
look
at
the
a
pretty
high
level
schedule
so
assuming
we
can
go
forward
and
council
approves
the
contracts
here,
the
middle
of
march,
we'll
do
ntp
and
we'll
get
started
with
the
design
in
early
2022
or
late
2022.
Excuse
me
we're
going
to
start
an
early
construction
effort
to
really
set
up
those
utilities
and
get
our
site
ready
for
that
level
of
construction.
There's
going
to
be
some
demo
that
has
to
go
on.
F
Excuse
me
different
things
like
that,
so
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
do
that.
Early
construction,
we're
going
to
start
primaries
a
little
bit
early
due
to
their
can
do
their
condition,
and
this
also
goes
to
how
we're
going
to
try
and
kind
of
phase
out
this
cash
flow.
We
want
to
get
a
lot
of
the
big
expenditure
items
spread
out
in
the
schedule.
So
we're
not
hammering
it.
F
You
know
in
you
know,
a
few
month
time
period,
seeing
a
big
monetary
spike,
so
we're
trying
to
smooth
that
out
as
best
we
can
with
kind
of
a
longer
duration
schedule
and
then
staggering.
When
we
actually
start
these
major
process
components,
and
then
you
can
see
that
the
tertiary
design
piece
is
way
out
in
2027
2028
and
so
again
we
want
to
see
how
the
prf
does.
F
Jim
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
the
phase
two
we're
gonna
do
some
extra
reporting.
So
this
really
is
a
three-fold
purpose.
Number
one
like
jim
said:
if
you
measure
it
you're
going
to
manage
it
and
so
we're
giving
a
set
of
really
good
tools
to
our
project
management
staff
to
be
able
to
report
on,
you
know,
figure
out
what
the
risks
are,
what
the
schedule
cost
budget
everything
is
we're,
giving
some
updated
tools
on
that.
F
It's
going
to
provide
our
public
works
leadership,
and
hopefully,
ultimately,
you
know
city
leadership
with
more
transparent
on
on
time
budgeting
and
you
know
how
we're
actually
doing
with
cost
and
schedule
and
everything
else.
So
we're
looking
to
do
that.
Then.
The
third
use
is
with
the
bond
financing
with
the
wifi,
especially
there
are
a
lot
of
requirements
for
reporting
on
your
spend
rate
to
the
us
epa
and
ultimately
to
deq
if
it's
srf
loan,
so
this
fulfills
that
requirement
in
wifi
and
so
we're
kind
of
getting
the
three-fold.
F
So,
on
the
on
the
you
know,
immediate
things
set
before
us:
we
have
worked
with
our
legal
and
risk
department.
They
have
completed
the
review
of
the
two
master
service
agreements
for
jacobs
and
for
mcelveen
they've.
Given
the
green
light,
we've
incorporated
all
their
comments,
both
legal
and
risk-
we're
here
before
you
today
to
give
your
presentation
and
look
for
your
secure
approval
going
forward.
F
E
E
You
see,
we've
got
projects
coming
up
there
that
include
ultraviolet
disinfection,
improvements,
tertiary
treatment,
secondary
improvements,
so
it
is
a
little
bit
like
groundhog
day,
but
that's
that's
having
the
two
facilities
and
that
facility
was
commissioned
in
1976
and
it's
kind
of
the
same
story.
Assets
are
coming
of
age
and
looking
for
other
opportunities
to
improve
capacity,
regulatory
compliance
and
and
renew
those
facilities.
E
Also,
we
heard
we've
heard
a
couple
times
now
from
royce
davis,
the
project
program
manager
for
the
water
recycle
program.
So
that's
another
big
piece
that
we've
got
going
on
and
then
we've
got
rich
weeby.
Who
is
an
assistant
city
engineer
with
us
who
continues
to
kind
of
move
forward
with
a
lot
of
our
conveyance
projects,
our
collection
system?
Again,
we've
got.
You
know
a
thousand
miles
of
pipe
out
there
and
rich
is
tasked
with
making
sure
that
those
are
being
kept
up
to
date
as
well.
E
So
it's
a
big
number,
but
there's
there's
bigger
numbers,
also
coming
so
with
that
in
summary
kind
of,
and
then
we'll
kind
of
stand
for
some
questions
additional
questions,
but
we
talked
about
plan
funding
and
executing
you
know.
We're
we've
been
very
systematic
at
this.
This
has
been
in
the
works
for
many
years
with
a
lot
of
effort
from
many
different
departments,
not
many
many
people
within
public
works,
but
also
citywide
and
and
several
others
as
well
talked
about
the
project
categories
right
we
like
to
click
all
those
boxes.
E
That's
when
we
know
we've
got
a
good
project
talked
about
the
toolbox
right.
We
it's
not
lost
on
this
department
at
all
that
the
problems
of
today
can't
be
solved
with
yesterday's
yesterday's
solution.
So
we're
constantly
kind
of
looking
forward
and
josh
hit
on
quite
a
few
of
those
as
well.
So
we're
going
to
continue
with
that.
E
You
know:
there's
we're
always
looking
for
process
improvement
and
always
trying
to
better
ourselves
great
update
on
phase
one
up
on
phase
one
coming
to
completion,
and
I
I
do
appreciate
the
commission
really
acknowledging
and-
and
some
of
the
very
pointed
questions
about
like
how
did
you
do
that
that
that
you
know
you
think
about
65
million
project
over
three
years?
You
know
three
year
long
65
million
dollar
project
and
it's
coming,
you
know
pretty,
might
come
in
a
little
bit
under
a
budget
and
pretty
much
on
schedule.
E
I
mean
that's
unheard
of
you
know
again,
you
know,
we've
we've
pointed
out,
you
know
the
challenges
with
covet
and
and
that
caused
supply
and
labor
challenges
and
and
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
that
josh
didn't
mention.
That
happened
and
there
were
some
sleepless
nights.
I
can
assure
you
of
that,
and
and
just
for
good
measures
and
to
shake
things
up.
We
threw
an
earthquake
in
there
too.
If
you
remember
so
in
the
you
know,
and
then
we
talked
about
phase
two
and
the
plans.
E
Moving
forward
talked
about
the
look
ahead
and
you
know
so
now
we're
at
the
point
where
we're
asking
the
commission
for
recommendation
to
initiate
so
I'll
show
the
staff
recommendation
next
and
which
is
to
move
forward
with
it
and
make
a
recommendation.
Have
the
commission
make
the
recommendation
mayor
and
council
to
go
ahead
and
initiate
the
next
phase,
but
we
can
you
know
I'll
pull
that
up,
so
you
can
see
it,
but
we'll
we'll
stand
here
for
any
questions
or
any
final
comments.
The
commission
might
have.
A
A
At
the
beginning
of
the
phase
two
presentation
you
mentioned
that
the
there's
about
three
times
the
work,
that's
going
into
phase
two
and
I
just
want
to
check
this
is
three
times
the
work
and
it
looks
like
it's
more
or
less
spread
out
over
three
times
the
time,
the
time
frame
as
well.
So
it's
not
tripling
the
burden
on
the
neighborhood
or
burden
on
the
supply
of
labor
or
materials,
or
anything
like
that.
Yes,.
F
C
I
A
D
You
know
there
certainly
were
times
when
we
had
meetings
and
tough
questions,
we're
flying
and
one
of
the
best
things
you
know
as
a
director
when
you're
in
the
middle
of
those
meetings.
Just
seeing
people
have
the
answers
or
if
they
don't
have
the
answers,
they'll
figure
it
out
and
how
much
ownership
that
team
took
on
that
project
and
it
you
can
see
that
you.
D
D
Turn
it
over
to
ben
nydiger
who's,
the
manager
of
the
20
mile
south
farm,
and
he
had
a
banner
year
last
year,
just
amazing
performance
by
the
team.
Today's
presentation
is
the
annual
presentation
on
the
minimum
commodity
prices,
but
wanted
to
acknowledge.
The
performance
of
the
farm
in
2021
was
was,
as
you'll
see,
was
off
the
charts,
so
ben.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
ladies
and
gentlemen
of
the
commission,
thank
you
for
having
me
today.
Yes,
we're
going
to
talk
today
about
minimum
commodity
pricing
at
our
20
mile
south
farm
again,
my
name
is
ben
neiger,
I'm
the
biosolid
program
manager
and
I'm
fortunate
enough
to
be
responsible
for
the
20
mile
south
operation.
J
So,
as
you
may
may
recall,
from
the
past,
this
is
a
annual
legal
requirement
that
we
go
through
to
ensure
that
we
can
get
a.
We
will
be
asking
for
a
motion
today.
I
should
mention
so.
We've
been
asking
for
a
motion
to
carry
forward
our
minimum
commodity
prices,
which
allows
us
in
to
enter
into
contracts
with
our
customers.
So
this
is
an
annual
legal
requirement
that
we
do
every
single
spring
at
this
time,
so
a
real
brief
overview
of
the
20
mile
south
farm,
so
yeah,
is
it
not
showing
up.
J
How's
it
going
okay
got
it,
sorry
about
that
so
yeah,
the
20
mile
south
farm
overview,
so
primary
commodities
we
produce
out
at
20
miles
south
are
alfalfa
and
if
I
refer
to
hay,
I'm
speaking
of
alfalfa,
hay
and
then
corn
and
winter
wheat,
and
really
why
we
exist.
Why
we
have
a
farm
that
steve
mentioned
is
you
know
we're
part
of
the
water
renewal
facility
process?
J
So
we
treat
about
30
million
gallons
of
wastewater
per
day
and
all
of
the
solids
from
our
water
renewal
facilities
are
taken
out
to
the
20
mile
south
farm
at
the
very
south,
end
of
cloverdale
south
of
cuna
and
used
for
fertilizer
to
grow.
The
crops
that
we
produce
so
alfalfa,
corn
and
wheat
are
the
three
main
crops.
Everything
we
produce
is
sold
to
local
dairies
for
animal
feed,
with
the
exception
of
the
wheat
grain,
which
is
sold
to
a
local
grain
elevator
and
is
used
for
human
food
consumption.
J
So
the
combining
of
the
wheat
and
the
corn
harvesting
is
done
by
outside
contractors,
but
the
city
essentially
does
all
other
tasks,
including
biosolids,
hauling,
transport
application,
all
of
the
seed
planting,
soil
preparation,
etc.
All
the
way
down
the
line
leading
to
harvest
so
really
talking
about
this
nutrient
cycle
here.
This
is
one
of
my
favorite
soapbox,
slides,
really
thinking
about
sustainability
and
what
we
do
with
our
food.
J
You
know
really
consuming
food,
sending
it
to
the
water
renewal
facilities,
producing
a
wonderful,
nutrient-rich,
valuable
material
that
we
can
use
to
feed
the
soil
and
grow
more
food.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
wonderful
thing
in
terms
of
sustainability,
so
this
is
a
copy
of
table.
One
from
the
public
works
commission
packet
that
includes
the
minimum
commodity
prices
for
2022..
J
We
certainly
want
to
establish
a
fair
market
value
and
demonstrate
that
our
buyers
would
be
paying
the
same
price
for
the
commodities
we
produced
from
the
city
of
boise,
as
they
would
from
anyone
else
that
they're
they're
buying
commodities
from
so
these
prices
are
set
at
a
lower
rate.
You
see
on
the
farthest
right
column
there.
J
The
percentage
we
expect
to
see
as
a
as
a
percentage
of
the
market
price
we
expect
to
actually
recoup
at
the
time
of
sale,
but
these
are
set
low
to
account
number
one
for
a
decrease
in
commodity
value
between
now
and
harvest.
Things
could
turn
the
other
way
a
little
bit
and
secondarily,
and
maybe
most
importantly,
is
to
account
for
adverse
climactic
conditions.
A
couple
of
examples
of
that
would
be
for
our
silage
corn
crop
it's
very
susceptible
to
frost.
J
J
J
We
have
seen
that
in
the
past,
another
example
would
be
for
our
winter
wheat
crop.
You
know
our
winter.
Wheat
is
generally
harvested
in
late
july,
early
august
time
frame
and
our
wheat
is
when
it's
ready
for
harvest
it's
completely
dry.
We
do
experience,
sometimes
some
monsoonal
moisture,
that
time
of
year,
if
we
experienced
a
really
deluge
of
rain
precipitation
during
that
time
frame,
the
wheat
could
have
a
tendency
to
try
to
re-sprout
prior
to
harvest,
and
that
would
certainly
reduce
the
value
to
our
buyer.
J
J
C
J
Yes,
so
for
I
don't
have
last
year's
table
for
me,
commissioner
crowley.
Thank
you
for
the
for
the
kudos.
I
appreciate
that
I
don't
have
the
table
in
front
of
me
from
last
year,
however,
they
have
increased
for
corn,
especially
we've
gone
up
about
seven
dollars
a
ton
from
last
year.
I
believe
so.
That's
that's
one
of
the
big
ones
for
the
rest
of
the
commodities.
J
J
J
I
don't
know
if
how
that
will
fall
in
with
our
all
the
other
capital
projects
we
have
going
on,
but
it's
certainly
in
line
with
what
the
mayor's
initiatives
are.
That
comes
to
mind
for
sure.
Secondarily,
there
has
been
some
movement
in
electrical
electric
powered
equipment
for
large-scale
farming-
we're
not
quite
there
yet,
but
I
can
see
in
the
next
decade
or
more.
You
know
us
going
to
more,
maybe
electrically
powered
tractors
and
things.
That
would
be
really
amazing
because
our
diesel
costs
are
pretty
substantial
out
at
20
miles
south.
C
I
Thank
you.
I
had
a
question
about
the
prospective
crops
that
you're
hoping
to
introduce
to
just
do
the
crop
rotations
in
the
coming
years,
and
the
thought
where
I'm
going
with
this
is
understanding
if
we
could
probably
do
more
crop
rotations
for
human
consumption
versus
dairy
consumption
to
make
our
model,
hopefully
even
more
sustainable,
and
I
mean
it
would
be
harder
to
make
it
economic.
J
Mr
chairman,
commissioner,
thank
you
for
the
question.
It's
a
great
question.
We're
constantly
evaluating,
I
think
the
commodities
that
we
produce
and-
and
you
know
the
number
one
consideration
for
us
for
sure-
is
being
able
to
recycle
the
nutrients
in
our
biosolids-
that's
number
one.
Above
and
beyond.
We
want
to
be
able
to
grow
commodities
that
really
do
a
wonderful
job
of
taking
those
nutrients
out
of
the
ground,
so
we
can
replenish
the
soil
with
biosolids
applications
going
forward.
J
So
that's
not
being
said
that
we
couldn't
grow
more
food
crops
with
the
commodities
that
we
grow.
There
are
some
regulatory
limitations.
However,
if
the
harvested
part
of
the
crop
similar
to
the
wheat
is
harvested
above
the
ground,
we
only
have
a
30-day
holding
period
between
the
time
we
can
apply
biosolids
to
the
time
we
harvest.
So
you
think
about
things
like
fruit,
sweet
corn,
hops
are
used
in
in
our
region
for
biosolids
production,
biosolids
application.
I
should
say
I
think
those
are
all
on
the
table.
J
You
know,
I
think,
there's
there's
challenges
that
that
come
along
with
diversifying
our
operation,
maybe
going
to
more
human
food
crops,
but
it's
something
we're
continually
evaluating
if
something
made
sense
from
a
marketability
standpoint,
we'd
certainly
consider
it
going
forward.
I
think
those
are
a
little
farther
down
the
road,
but
something
we're
continually
evaluating.
J
As
an
as
an
aside,
your
question,
something
else
comes
to
mind-
is:
is
more
community
based
guard
community-based
farming?
You
know,
we
also
have
you
know
a
class,
a
material
with
struvite.
We
have
a
marketing
partner
right
now,
but
you
know
maybe
there's
an
opportunity.
A
lot
of
other
communities
are
doing
things
with
class,
a
biosolids
product
where
they
can
use
that
in
community
gardens
and
help
offset.
You
know
food
deserts
and
things
of
that
nature
here
for
the
community.
I
G
J
J
D
Trigger
just
ben
maybe
put
you
on
the
spot
a
little
bit.
I
know
there
was
some
discussion
about
we're,
actually
net
positive
energy,
we're
generating
more
energy
than
we're
using,
and
you
want
to
comment
on.
I
think
I
heard
that
we
may
be
trying
to
use
some
of
those
those
credits
for
facilities
outside
of
the
building
yeah.
J
J
We
took
quite
a
lot
of
time
to
design
the
solar
array,
but
it
actually
is
a
little
bit
oversized
the
benefit
for
us
as
as
a
20-mile
south
farm
operation
is
we
have
like
43
meters
that
are
all
contiguous
power
meters,
so
we're
able
to
offset
those
excess
credits
and
apply
those
to
a
different
account
which
includes
actually
irrigation
accounts.
So
we
actually
applied
those
credits
in
december.
J
D
Check
about
not
get
too
philosophical
here,
but
the
we've
been
talking
a
lot.
The
city
like
within
the
climate
action
group
of
like
moving
on
from
sustainability
or
sustainable
cities.
That
implies
that
what
we're
doing
today
is
sustainable
and
I
think
we
can
all
acknowledge.
That's
not
the
case
so
stuff.
D
You
know
projects
initiatives
like
ben's
talking
about
kind
of
gets
us
to
that
regenerative
city
concept
that
we're
building
things
that
add
to
the
community
not
just
take
from
the
community,
not
just
consume,
but
they
actually
are
set
up
to
be
able
to
provide
something
back.
That
kind
of
regen
regenerative
concept
is
kind
of
what
we've
been
talking
about,
and
it's
manifesting
itself
down
at
the
farm.
A
J
You,
mr
chairman,
so
moving
forward
just
real
briefly
about
our
crop
pricing
policy,
so
we're
obviously
very
sensitive
to
any
impacts
we
could
have
on
the
local
market
20
mile
south
farm.
We
are
the
largest
contiguous
farm
in
ada
county.
We
produce
enough
of
all
the
commodities
that
we
grow,
that
we
could
certainly
have
an
impact
on
local
pricing.
J
So
we
want
to
make
sure,
like
I
mentioned
before,
that
we're
setting
a
fair
market
value
for
everything
that
we
produce.
We
strive
to
set
the
most
equitable
prices
possible,
like
I
said
if
our
customer
was
to
buy
commodities
from
the
city
of
boise
or
elsewhere
in
the
valley
or
the
local
region,
they'd
be
paying
a
similar
price.
J
So,
ideally,
we
would
have
published
citable
prices
for
everything
we
sell.
There
are
some
indexes
out
there,
however,
with
silage
corn
and
triticale,
we
don't
have
published
prices
available,
so
we
have
to
use
a
little
bit
more
innovative
techniques.
We
cite
market
news
reports,
university
pricing
guides
and
regional
indexes
and
things
to
try
and
establish
a
mutually
agreeable
price
with
our
buyers
so-
and
this
is
a
a
slide
pretty
busy
slide,
but
it
shows
revenues
over
the
last
eight
eight
nine
years
and
then
projected
for
2022,
and
you
can
see.
J
I
appreciate
the
kudos
to
our
farm
staff
there.
They
work
very
hard
to
produce
quality
commodities
for
our
buyers
every
year,
but
I
do
have
to
admit
that
in
2021
we
didn't
work
exceptionally
harder
than
we
have
in
prior
years.
It's
just
we've
really
reaped
the
benefit
of
a
turning
market
from
all
the
commodities
we
produce.
I
think
we
really
rode
out
that
trough
from
2016
to
2020,
where
things
were
really
depressed
and
now
all
of
a
sudden
things
are
bouncing
back.
J
So
a
couple
of
highlights
from
this
chart,
like
steve
mentioned
in
2021,
we
shattered
our
all-time
revenue
record
for
gross
revenue
at
20
miles
south
farm.
We
pulled
in
a
4.17
million
dollars
in
gross
revenue
and
you
can
see
the
majority
of
that
was
in
the
green
bar
there,
which
is
represents
our
alfalfa
crop
or
hay.
We
also
got
a
substantial
bump
from
our
silage
corn
crop
and
winter
wheat,
and
another
thing
to
note
for
2022
is
the
little
blue
sliver
on
the
top
of
the
of
the
columns.
J
We
are
projecting
to
grow
triticale
for
the
first
time
since
2018.,
that
is
at
our
customer's
request.
We're
really
excited
to
grow
triticale
trader
triticale
is
a
hybrid
rye
grass
and
wheat
crop.
So
it's
another
grain.
We
typically
will
harvest
that
prior
to
the
grain
head
emerging
from
the
grass
it's
harvested
and
chopped
similar
to
how
the
silage
corn
is
is
harvested
hauled
directly.
The
buyer
had
been
styled
in
a
large
pit
and
then
it's
part
of
their
ration
for
the
dairy
dairy
animals.
J
So
going
back
to
marketability,
our
customers
see
that
as
a
high
value
crop
and
for
us
it
really
is
a
boon
to
our
biosolids
nutrient
management
program.
So
we
can
take
triticale
and
double
crop
that,
with
corn
on
the
same
parcel.
In
the
same
season
or
same
year,
and
then
we
can
get,
you
know
more
nutrients
mined
out
of
that
parcel
by
using
the
double
crop
system.
So
it's
really
advantageous
for
us
to
be
able
to
use
and
we're
really
excited,
hopefully
to
produce
a
really
quality
crop
for
our
buyers.
J
So
they'll
want
to
continue
purchasing
that
from
us
going
forward
in
future
years.
Another
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out
here
is
the
reliance
in
2022
on
our
corn
harvest.
You
know
talking
about
diverse
diversification.
We
want
to
diversify
as
much
as
we
can
to
eliminate
as
much
risk
as
we
can,
but
we
we
do
have
a
large
number
of
acres
planted
in
corn
or
will
be
planted
in
corn
this
season
and
we're
looking
at
quite
a
increase
in
price.
J
So
from
your
packet
that
I
sent
out
with
more
information,
I
think
we
went
from
32.
in
2021
for
our
corn
price
and
we're
looking
at
maybe
41
or
42.
in
2022,
so
commodity
prices
have
increased
by
a
drastic
margin
for
corn
and
it
is
concurrent
with
what
our
buyers
want.
So
it's
it's
nice
to
want.
What
is
is
a
great
value
for
us.
J
Another
thing
that
I,
since
I
sent
out
the
packet
that
I
found,
was
interesting
with
the
conflict
over
in
russia,
ukraine.
Those
are
two
of
the
highest
producing
wheat
countries
in
the
world
and
they
export
quite
a
large
amount
of
their
grain.
Since
I
sent
out
the
public
works
information
in
early
february
to
now
wheat
prices
in
little
old,
boise,
idaho
or
in
our
region,
have
increased
1.12
per
bushel,
which
results
in
an
increase
of
about
16
percent.
So
it
is
really
interesting
how
worldwide.
J
So,
overall
in
2022
we're
looking
at
a
similar
year,
we
may
even
set
a
new
record.
Hopefully
if
things
go,
our
way,
knock
on
wood
and
just
a
brief
look
at
our
economics
out
here
for
the
20
mile
south
farm.
We
really
strive
to
be
a
a
revenue
neutral
operation,
which
is
a
tremendous
boon
to
the
city,
so
that
top
row
shows
total
expenses
for
20
miles
south
farm
operation.
Now
this
also
includes
everything
related
to
biosolids,
so
essentially
when
the
biosolids
are
done
being
treated
at
west
boise.
J
If
you
look
at
operational
costs,
the
next
one
down
there,
so
that's
that
includes
everything,
except
for
our
laboratory
costs
and
the
water
renewal
fund
and
as
a
percentage
of
residuals
cost
versus
the
total
water
renewal
fund
operational
costs.
You
can
see
that
on
the
last
line
there
you
know
see,
we
have
some
literature
citations
that
residuals
management
or
biosolids
management.
Your
ultimate
disposal
costs
can
be
20
to
50
of
your
total
wastewater
treatment
costs
and
looking
back
at
2017.
We
hope
that
was
a
really
a
worst
case
scenario
year.
J
We
paid
about
five
percent
of
our
total
water
renewal
facility
costs
and
in
2021
we
actually
returned
almost
two
percent
to
the
water
renewal
fund.
So
this
is
a
tremendous
feather
in
our
cap
for
our
ratepayers-
and
you
know,
our
predecessors
had
some
wonderful
foresight
in
in
acquiring
the
farm
and
having
dedicated
by
solids
application
site.
J
A
J
J
We
do
all
class
b
at
20
mile
soft
farm
and
it's
not
like
class
a
is
a
much
better
like
a
student
versus
a
b
student
they're,
just
different
end
applications.
So,
with
class
b
we
allow
some
pathogens
remaining
in
the
biosolids
and
we
rely
on
mother
nature
we're
applying
on
a
farm
in
the
in
the
middle
of
southern
ada
county.
J
The
three
main
options
for
disposal
are
land
application,
which
is
what
we're
doing
the
second
one
would
be
landfilling
which
a
lot
of
our
sister
communities
do
and
a
lot
of
communities
in
idaho
do
and
the
third
one
would
be
incineration,
which
there's
not
very
many
of
those
facilities
anywhere
in
the
western
u.s,
because
we
have
pretty
much
have
adequate
agricultural
land.
Those
will
be
the
three
main
options
now,
there's
a
whole
suite
of
options.
If
you
were
doing
additional
treatment
to
go
to
class
a
so.
J
A
J
J
There
is
a
cs
beef
just
to
the
north
of
us
as
well
they've,
actually
in
the
process
of
trying
to
acquire
additional
water
rights
right
now,
but
my
understanding
reading
up
a
little
bit
on
that
meta
facility
that
the
water
writes
the
water
needs
will
be
tremendous
that
is
upgrading
in
the
aquifer
from
20
miles.
South
farm
we've
been
very
fortunate,
knock
on
wood.
Over
the
years
this,
the
27
years
we've
operated
the
farm
now
28
years
that
we
haven't
seen
a
great
reduction
in
our
water
volume
or
water
quality.
J
But
that
is
certainly
a
concern
and
if
there's
something
to
fight
for
with
agriculture
in
the
west,
I
think
it's
water.
So
that
is
definitely
a
tremendous
concern
with
the
cs.
Beef
moving
in
to
the
north
of
us
there's
also
some
just
concerns
related
to
land
acquisition
and
ability
to
to
expand
in
the
future.
D
Cherokee
vat
just
to
add
on
what
ben
said
in
those
situations
where
there
may
be
some
facilities
that
are
applying
for
additional
water
rights
as
a
city,
we'll
typically
intervene
on
those
water
rights
applications
just
to
make
sure
we're
at
the
table
to
understand
exactly
what
is
being
proposed.
It's
formerly
called
a
protest
to
do
that.
I
like
to
refer
to
as
an
intervention,
because
we're
just
trying
to
get
at
the
table.
Protest
sounds
much
more
confrontational,
but
we
do
protest.
I
Thank
you.
My
question
was,
I
haven't
done
any
of
the
tours
yet
like
going
to
the
water
renewal
facilities
or
anywhere
because
it's
been
indoors,
whereas
I'm
hoping
in
the
summer
time.
If
it's
available,
I
was
wondering
if
there's
tours
available
since
it's
outdoors
with
even
with
the
unpredictability
of
cobit,
I
was
just
wondering
if
there's
availability
for
that.
J
Mr
chairman,
commissioner,
absolutely
we'd
love
to
have
you
out
for
a
visit.
Show
you
the
operation
a
great
time
coming
up
here.
You
know
in
another
month,
six
weeks
when
things
start
greening
up
it's
a
great
time
to
visit.
Please
reach
out
to
me
and
we'll
set
something
up,
get
something
on
the
schedule.
Love
to
have
anybody
else
that
is
interested
in
visiting
the
farm.
We'll
do
a
little
tour
would
be
fantastic.
H
D
We're
doing
the
all
the
automation
here
with
technology
and
recording
that
it
throws
some
curveballs
in
there.
So
so
we
at
the
very
least
we
can
get
a
tour
set
up
and
if
other
commissioners
want
to
join
the
best
case
scenario
is
just
to
have
a
meeting
out
there
so
that
you
can
go
out
maybe
either
before
or
after
we
get
the
tour
from
ben
and
the
staff.
So
yeah
we'll
keep
you
posted,
and
I've
made
a
note
of
that.
I
G
G
If
you're
you
know,
if
there's
certain
groups
or
entities
that
are
planning
earth,
day,
events
and
they're
trying
to
get
people
an
incentive
to
participate
and
trying
to
think
of
more
like
experience
things
instead
of
trinkets,
you
know
kind
of
but
jillian
ipof,
a
coin
from
zero
waste.
Boise
institute
of
keep
your
logo
out
of
the
landfill
kind
of
thing,
and
so
it
occurred
to
me
that
going
on
this
tour
of
the
20
mile,
south
farm
would
be
really
cool.
G
J
Mr
chairman,
commissioner,
thanks
for
the
questions
and
comments
to
answer
the
question,
first
yeah:
absolutely
there
is
a
cost
associated
with
going
to
class
a
and
I
think
ultimately,
in
our
facility
plan.
You
know
there
will
be
a
point
and
it
may
be.
You
know
several
decades
from
now,
but
we
may
start
diverting
a
certain
portion
of
our
biosolids.
J
It
all
goes
to
20
miles
south
farm
right
now,
but
maybe
we
do
do
a
class,
a
diversion
program
where
we're
doing
some
type
of
a
composting
program
or
something
to
achieve
a
class
a
and
then
looking
for
an
outlet
for
those
materials.
And
one
thing
we've
thought
about
internally:
is
you
know,
blending
with
the
compost?
That's
out
there,
the
green
waste
program
they're
a
way
to
join
forces
and
increase
the
value
of
that
compost
and
also
have
a
diversion
for
our
class
b
or
class
a
biosolids.
J
Ultimately,
I
think
those
those
questions
will
be
answered
quite
a
ways
down
the
road,
because
we
have
quite
a
bit
of
capacity
for
all
of
our
class
b
material
right
now,
but
certainly
something
to
consider
going
forward
and
then
answer
your
comments
about
tours
and
things
you
know
pre
covid.
I
think
I
was
probably
doing
at
least
one
to
two
tours
every
week.
So
oh.
G
J
I
really
enjoy
doing
I've
talked
to
my
boss,
marcia
about
it
quite
a
bit
it.
It
really
invigorates
me
and
my
staff,
and
and
really
gives
us
some
some
push
to
really
realize
that
what
we're
doing
is
pretty
cool.
You
know
when
we
get
down
to
the
mundane
part
of
the
job,
so
it's
something
I
really
appreciate
doing
and
I'd
be
open
to
feel
free
to
send
my
contact
information
or
hook
me
up
with
anybody.
That's
interested
in
tour.
I'd
love
to
love
to
have
him
out.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
we
are
looking
for
a
motion
today.
So
here's
the
staff
recommendation.
We
recommend
approval
of
the
2022
minimum
commodity
price
list
shown
in
table
1,
and
we
request
your
recommendation
to
city
council
for
adoption
of
resolution
approving
this
price
list.
This
will
provide
authorization
for
the
public
works
director
or
designee
to
enter
into
crop
sales
agreements
for
2022.
A
G
A
D
D
We've
just
been
working
a
lot
on
staffing
requests,
as
I'm
sure
other
folks
that
are
in
other
organizations,
are
feeling
the
pain
of
resignations
and
trying
to
find
workforce.
So
we're
trying
to
just
evaluate
the
ftd
requests
to
make
sure
that
it's
absolutely
what
we
need
to
make
so
we're
going
through
those
again
this
week.
So,
unfortunately
that
causes
the
delay
the
fy
23
o
m
budget
that
will
occur
on
the
16th
and
then
also
with
the
work
session.
D
We
will
have
an
item,
that's
a
little
more
interactive,
which
is
going
to
be
the
cost
of
service
study,
which
I
think
you'll
find
interesting.
Is
it's
a
it's
a
little
tedious
there's
a
lot
of
detail,
but
I
think
it's
important,
it's
obviously
very
important
to
making
sure
that
we're
setting
rates
properly
for
for
customers
and
then
also
at
that
work
session.
We'll
have
a
follow-up
on
the
subcommittee
discussion
that
we've
been
having
with
chair
gravatt
for
the
commission
we're
making
progress
on
different
components.