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A
A
I
think
all
of
you
know
this,
but
because
this
is
a
public
meeting,
it
is
being
broadcast,
live
over
zoom,
so
the
public
and
the
media
can
watch
through
zoom.
I
know
check
your
hair,
I
checked
mine
a
few
times,
but
they
cannot
participate
by
a
zoom.
They
can
only
observe
for
this.
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
later
about
how
they
can
participate.
We
want
to
make
sure
to
leave
that
avenue
open,
but
because
we
have
a
lot
of
sort
of
very
particular
work
to
do.
This
was
a
good
compromise.
We
felt.
A
So
I
know
this
is
not
my
preferred
method.
To
just
say:
is
everybody
okay
with
that,
because
if
you're
not,
maybe
you
feel
embarrassed
about
that
if
you're,
not
okay
with
being
recorded,
please
just
come
see
me
okay,
but
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
record
the
zoom
today
so
that
that
can
be
posted
and
then
the
other
thing
is
because
we
are
on
zoom
again,
not
my
preference,
but
in
order
for
you
to
be
heard,
you're
gonna
have
to
speak
into
the
mic.
A
So
we
have
a
couple
of
handheld
mics
that
will
run
around
to
you.
I
think
you
can
hold
it
like
about
a
fist
distance
from
your
chin.
I
hate
speaking
into
mics
too.
Maybe
it
makes
you
nervous,
it
makes
me
nervous,
but
it's
the
way
we
can
be
heard
to
the
public.
If
at
any
time
you
want
coffee
or
water,
please
just
pop
up
and
help
yourselves
be
informal
about
that
and
restrooms
are
down
the
hall
and
on
the
left.
So
please
just
take
care
of
yourself
for
the
next
90
minutes.
A
B
B
My
expectations
from
each
of
you,
as
a
member
of
this
committee,
reflect
on
the
values
that
I
ask
and
expect
that
you
bring
to
this
because
they're
boise
values
and
then
talk
about
the
charge
and
where
we
head
from
here
and
so
first
off,
I
asked
you
to
be
a
part
of
this
committee
and
because
we
need
shelter
in
our
community,
we
must
serve
those
who
are
most
vulnerable
in
our
community
and
we
need
to
address
housing.
B
The
needs
for
housing,
but
we
can't
forget
the
emergency
needs
that
occur
in
this
community
night
by
night
by
night.
And
so
I
ask
that
you
come
to
this
with
an
open
mind,
with
a
sense
of
service
to
the
people
that
live
in
this
community,
all
people
and
no
matter
how
they
live
as
boysians,
who
are
here
in
the
place
that
we
all
hold
dear,
and
to
do
that
with
an
open
mind
to
look
at
the
data
to
hear
information
that
will
be
presented
by
so
many
people.
B
But
to
remember
always
that
we
are
talking
about
fellow
boiseans
that
need
support
and
service
as
we
seek
to
provide
for
emergency
needs
and
ultimately
move
them
into
house
and
home.
And
so
I'm
asking
you
to
do
that.
And
then,
at
the
end
of
this,
to
deliver
to
me
in
my
administration
and
ultimately
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
and
the
city
council,
a
recommendation
around
shelter
and
how
we
do
shelter
better
in
boise.
It
needs
to
be
something
that
meets
the
current
needs.
B
B
This
is
a
seminar
format
in
many
ways,
you're
going
to
have
lots
of
stuff
to
read
and
then
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
discuss,
to
hear
information
to
take
into
account
who
we
serve
where
we
live
and
what
we
all
owe
each
other
and
then
those
that
live
in
this
community
and
to
work
through
that
together
and
at
the
end
of
these
eight
weeks
to
present
a
recommendation-
and
my
commitment
to
you
is
that
I
will
take
that
recommendation
seriously-
that
I
will
work
with
our
city
staff
here
to
ensure
that
they
work
to
support
that
recommendation.
B
So
we
can
move
a
solution
that
meets
the
needs
of
boise
forward
and
I'd.
Ask
that
you,
as
a
committee,
be
prepared
to
present
that
recommendation
not
only
to
me
but
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
and
ultimately
the
council,
and
I
know
I
I
know
that
we
can
do
this.
It's
not.
As
I
said
it's
not
going
to
be
easy,
there's
going
to
be
tough
moments.
There
have
been
tough
moments.
B
You
know,
time
of
summer
to
get
together
for
eight
weeks
to
help
move
us
towards
a
solution
that
we
can
all
work
for
together,
really
appreciate
your
willingness
to
serve,
and
not
only
and
those
and
and
the
city
in
this
process,
but
the
entire
community
and
and
I'll
be
looking
forward
not
only
to
seeing
the
end
result,
but
to
learning
and
following
along
and
hearing
your
process
throughout
the
way.
So,
thank
you
all
very
much.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
vladamir,
all
right.
So
next
up
we're
gonna,
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
the
task
force
about
our
charge
and
about
the
goals
of
the
task
force
and
to
do
that
is
courtney,
washburn
who's,
the
mayor's
chief
of
staff
and
also
the
chair
of
the
non-voting
chair
of
the
task
force
hand
things
over
to
you.
C
Hi
everybody,
I'm
courtney,
washburn.
I
am
the
chief
of
staff
for
the
city
of
boise
and
I
am
with
you
today
as
the
chair
of
this
task
force,
I'm
a
non-voting
member
and
I
perceive
my
role
as
being
primarily
to
protect
the
process,
make
sure
everyone
is
heard
and
everyone
is
able
to
contribute
in
a
way
that
is
comfortable
to
get
us
to
final
recommendations.
C
C
The
best
part
about
working
for
the
mayor
is,
I
always
follow
her
and
I
never
know
what
she's
going
to
say,
and
normally
she
takes
all
my
talking
points
so
I'll
be
particularly
brief
today,
but
at
any
time,
during
this
process,
you
have
any
questions.
You
have
any
concerns
you
have
things
you'd
like
to
share.
I'm
your
person
and
again
my
charge,
is
to
protect
this
process
and
make
sure
everyone
can
contribute
in
a
way
that's
comfortable
to
them.
A
All
right
thanks
so
much
so
I
know
that
this
is
a
big
circle
and
I
don't
like
how
far
apart
we
are
with
each
other,
but
we're
trying
to
do
a
little
bit
of
distancing
for
safety
and
also
to
create
a
sense
of
sort
of
we're
all
in
this
together.
So
we're
going
to
start
with
some
introductions
here
is
just
to
prep
you.
I
also
get
a
lot
of
anxiety
when
I
have
to
introduce
myself
in
groups.
Does
that
happen
to
anyone
else?
No,
just
me!
Okay!
A
A
So
let's
see,
let's
do
your
name
I'll
pick
up
that
pin
in
a
minute
your
affiliation,
if
you
have
one
and
if
you
don't
that's
fine
and
then
how
about
something
you're
appreciating
right
now
or
looking
forward
to
if
you're,
in
a
place
where
you're
not
appreciating
anything,
that's
okay,
so
I'll
go
first
just
to
model
and
to
introduce
myself
to
you,
I
am
jen
schneider.
I
am
your
facilitator
for
the
task
force.
A
I
am
a
professor
in
the
school
of
public
service
at
boise
state
and
something
that
I've
been
particularly
appreciating
is
the
mornings.
I
don't
know
if
you
feel
that
too,
but
just
with
the
heat
and
the
smoke
being
able
to
go
out
and
water,
my
garden
or
ride
my
bike
or
walk.
My
old
little
chihuahua
has
been
a
nice
reprieve
from
the
heat,
so
that
is
what
I've
been
appreciating.
A
D
My
name
is
katie
decker
and
I'm
with
the
veterans
park,
neighborhood
association,
something
I'm
appreciating
is
the
chance
to
bike
commute
downtown
again
in
the
post
covered
world.
D
I'd
also
like
to
hand
it
off
to
gary
just
to
note
that
I
had
a
backpacking
trip
planned
in
a
few
weeks,
so
I
will
be
absent
from
a
few
sessions,
so
gary's
here
to
listen
in
and
he'll
be
standing
in.
For
me
when
I'm
gone.
E
Hi
I'm
gary
zimmerman
and
I'm
the
on
the
board
of
directors
for
the
vpna
I
enjoy
just
getting
out
of
my
bike
this
summer.
You
know
yeah
it's
hot
in
the
afternoon,
but
it's
been
awesome
in
the
morning.
So.
A
G
Hi,
I'm
penny
beach,
I'm
a
family
physician,
I'm
the
chief
medical
officer
for
the
family
medicine
residency
of
idaho,
which
is
a
federally
qualified
health
center.
We
have
about
25
000
patients
in
the
treasure
valley,
and
50
of
them
are
people
who
are
low
income.
G
Most
recently,
we've
been
working
with
interfaith
in
the
other
shelters
in
town
on
the
response
to
the
coveted
pandemic.
We
did
a
lot
of
vaccinations
and
we
also
were
the
medical
support
for
the
coveted
hotel
things
that
I'm
appreciating.
I
love
boise,
but
I
have
a
plane
ticket
on
friday
to
the
bay
area
where
the
high
is
70
degrees.
H
Hi,
my
name
is
annie
mccutchen
and
I
am
just
finishing
my
master's
program
in
mental
health
counseling.
I
my
affiliation.
I
was
surprised
to
see
when
it
was
posted.
I
am
a
neighborhood
leader,
but
you.
H
It
was
just
a
gifted
title
that
I
wasn't
expecting
put
it
on
your
resume
yeah.
So
now
now
I'm
a
neighborhood
leader
I
live
in
the
collister
neighborhood,
something
I'm
something
I'm
connecting
with
is
I'll,
be
leaving
for
a
camping
trip
for
three
days
tomorrow
and
it'll
be
the
first
time
that
I've
been
out
of
town
for
a
while,
so
that'll
be
really
nice.
H
I
Hello,
my
name
is
charity.
Nelson
I've
got
a
background
in
human
resources
and
economic
development.
What
I'm
appreciating
right
now
is,
I
am
now
on
day,
two
of
taking
a
little
break
from
those
professions
and
spending
some
time
with
my
children
that
are
10
and
12.
So
definitely
appreciating
extra
time
before
they
become
teenagers.
J
K
Hi,
my
name
is
jody
peterson
steigers,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
interfaith
sanctuary,
and
I'm
super
grateful
that
tomorrow,
I'm
getting
on
a
plane
with
my
two
sons.
One
of
them
starts
medical
school
in
august
at
university
of
washington
and
we're
going
to
be
in
northern
california,
enjoying
some
cooler
weather.
So
I'm
very
excited.
M
And
I'm
here
representing
the
new
path
home
and
I'm
just
very.
O
Hi,
I'm
stephanie
day
the
executive
director
of
catch
and
I'm
gonna,
I'm
usually
the
odd
man
out
and
doing
these
things.
So
I'm
gonna
shift
it
to
get
a
little
serious
for
a
second
and
then
you
can
go
back
to
other
things,
but
when
I
think
about
what
I'm
really
appreciative
of
like
in
this
moment,
like
I've,
I've
been
in
the
homeless
services
world
for
14
years
and
the
place
that
we
are
now
and
like
how
sophisticated
we
are
and
how
we're
having
like
strategic
system
level
conversations.
O
Future
planning
is
like
super
exciting
to
me.
So
I'm
very
excited
about
this,
and
just
really
appreciative
for
all
of
you
guys
and
being
willing
to
be
on
this
journey
with
us.
L
Thank
you,
elaine
clegg.
I
am
the
city
council,
president
of
boise
city
council,
really
excited
to
be
here.
L
Over
the
last
eight
months,
I've
worked
hard
to
work
with
the
mayor
and
the
rest
of
the
council
to
ensure
that
we
have
some
resources
for
permanent,
supportive
houses,
housing,
more
resources
than
we've
had
previously,
and
you
know,
combined
with,
I
think,
the
federal
resources
that
are
coming
along-
and
I
think,
there's
some
exciting
things
that
this
group
can
talk
about
in
terms
of
leveraging
those
resources
to
make
shelter
better,
and
so
I'm
very
excited
to
be
here
personally.
For
those
reasons,
on
a
personal
note,
I
have
five
kids
and
12
grandchildren.
L
You
know,
I
think,
all
of
us
who
work
in
these
kinds
of
issues
having
having
that
personal
support
behind
you
can
really
be
the
thing
that
ensures
that
you
can
continue
doing
this
work.
So
for
me
it
is.
P
I'm
andy
scoggin,
and
I
am
currently
the
president
of
the
board
of
directors
for
the
interface
sanctuary.
I've
been
on
the
board
for
over
10
years
now
and
have
been
serving
in
this
role
for
about
close
to
five
of
those,
I
think
so,
that's
my
affiliation
for
being
here
today.
My
first
appreciation
is
that
everybody
in
this
room
is
committing.
P
You
know
time
in
a
very
busy
lives
and
schedules
to
come
together,
sponsored
by
the
mayor
and
the
in
the
city
council
to
talk
about
these
issues,
because
I
think
our
city
has
already
done
some.
You
know
some
very
good
things
and
by
the
city
I
don't
mean
the
government,
I
mean
city
government,
but
also
people
throughout
this
city,
but
you
know
things
are
coming
at
us,
so
it's
really
important
that
we
be
a
head
of
the
curve
with
solutions
etc.
P
And
all
of
you
that
are
you
know,
spending
the
time
here
in
these
kind
of
meetings
and
working
together
and
collaborating
coalescing
is
really
really
important.
Other
appreciation
is,
I
love
that
we
live
in
a
city
that
has
a
river
running
right
through
the
middle
of
it,
and
this
weekend
my
wife
and
I
got
to
take
our
five
little
grandkids
down
and
splash
and
see
little
duck
families
who
are
starting
to
grow
up
and
you
know,
throw
sticks
and
rocks
and
see
them
splash
in
the
water.
P
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
tom
helmer.
I
am
the
president
of
the
sunset
neighborhood
association,
so
you're
representing
those
folks
and
we're
not
the
north
end.
By
the
way.
I
appreciate
a
few
things
I
one
I
appreciate.
I
live
in
a
city
that
cares
so
much
about
the
neighborhoods
and
our
underserved
populations
that
we're
willing
to
get
together
in
this
fashion
and
have
a
conversation
have
real
conversations
about
it.
I
think
that's
amazing.
Q
I
also
appreciate
I
I
got
to
fly
home
last
week
and
surprise
my
mom
and
my
family
back
east
in
rochester
and
and
it
was
it
was
first
time
in
over
two
years,
I'd
seen
my
family.
So
that
was
neat
and
my
last
appreciation
there's
three
I
have
is:
I
am
able
to
live
in
a
place
where
tonight
I'm
gonna
go
ride.
My
bike
in
the
foothills
and
it's
gonna
be
dark
out
and
I
hopefully
will
get
to
pretend.
There's
no
smoke
in
the
air
because
it'll
be
dark.
R
I
am
so
excited
for
me
and
my
partner
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution
to
what's
going
on
in
the
community
of
boise.
Thank
you.
S
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
rachel
strong.
I
am
the
director
of
administration
at
boise,
unitarian,
universalist
fellowship
and
I'm
kind
of
a
plate
plate
place
filler
for
the
next
couple
weeks.
The
minister
reverend
sarah
lawal
has
accepted
to
serve
on
the
task
force,
but
she
is
on
vacation
for
a
couple
weeks,
so
I
will
be
here
taking
notes
and
relaying
information
and
sharing
this
experience
with
her.
So
I
am
really
appreciating
just
being
here.
M
Hi,
I'm
jennifer
godoy,
I'm
a
business
owner
and
artist
here
in
boise,
idaho
I
own
paint
and
sip,
I'm
also
a
neighborhood
leader,
so
I
think
we're
the
special
ones
just
saying
I'm
actually
really
appreciative
to
be
here.
This
is
this
is
really
exciting.
For
me,
I
grew
up
with
a
mother
who
struggles
with
homelessness
and
still
does,
and
so
this
is
very
exciting
to
be
part
of
the
solution
here.
T
Good
morning
b,
black
ceo
for
wca,
women's
and
children's
alliance
and
two
things
I
really
appreciate
one
is:
I
just
really
appreciate
the
efforts
and
particularly
been
noticeable.
I
would
say
in
the
last
18
months
of
all
the
non-profits
in
our
community
that
provide
social
services
to
the
underserved
really
working
together.
I
think
we
have
a
very
unique
community
from
what
I
hear
in
terms
of
that
working
to
support
each
other
and
knowing
that
the
more
we
work
together,
the
better
we
can
support
those
who
need
our
services.
T
Running
in
the
foothills
in
the
mornings
has
been
what's
kept
me
sane,
the
last
18
months,
so
I
really
appreciate
the
ability
to
go
out
and
just
enjoy
the
fabulous
foothills
and
the
trails
that
we
have.
Although
I
have
to
say,
I
don't
like
that.
The
bikes
still
get
to
use
some
of
the
trails,
and
I
don't.
N
N
F
A
U
Hi,
my
name
is
serena,
I
am
also
a
local
business
owner.
I
hesitate
to
say
this,
but
I
am
an
internationally
known,
psychic
medium
and
I
actually
was
homeless
for
a
very
long
time,
and
so
I
was
very
honored
to
be
asked
to
be
a
part
of
this
team,
which
is
one
of
the
things
I'm
grateful
for,
and
I
also
appreciate
the
nice
new
house.
U
I
live
in,
just
like
you
guys
it
has
air
conditioning
and
I
am
very
grateful
to
not
be
stuck
in
my
camping,
trailer
anymore
in
this
heat.
So
thank
you
all
for
letting
me
be
here.
A
A
So,
as
you
saw
for
today,
the
general
format
of
meetings
is
that
we'll
ask
you
to
do
a
little
homework
before
each
meeting
it
won't.
You
actually
won't
usually
be
readings
like
you
had
for
today,
we'll
often
send
out
videos
and
we'll
try
to
keep
things
brief,
because
we
know
that
you're
busy
folks,
but
the
idea
here
is
to
just
develop
sort
of
a
shared
understanding
around
some
issues
around
homelessness.
I'm
not
a
housing
or
homelessness.
A
Expert
myself
and
I
assume
not
everybody
in
the
room-
is
either.
Some
of
you
definitely
are
in
different
ways,
but
that's
just
having
some
of
that
homework
will
help
us.
Have
a
nice
shared
starting
point.
A
A
Make
sure
that
you
all
have
my
email
and
we're
gonna
try
to
keep
things
moving
so
that
you're
not
just
sitting
and
watching
powerpoints
for
every
meeting
there
will
be
one
meeting
that
is
like
that
is
death
by
slides
and
information.
A
That
said,
we
are
on
a
fairly
compressed
timeline.
I
know
that
that
is
a
hard
thing
to
come
up
against,
but
there
are
needs
in
the
community
that
have
to
be
met
and
decisions
that
have
to
be
made,
and
so
that
is
why
we
are
moving
at
the
pace.
We
are
moving
up.
A
I
also
pledged
to
send
you
a
summary
after
each
meeting
of
what
I
think
we
covered.
We
have
folks
from
the
city
who
are
taking
notes
and
I'll
try
to
send
out
just
a
brief
one
pager.
A
A
Okay,
this
piece
is
a
little
trickier
to
explain
and
I,
if
I
get
it
wrong,
I
hope
one
of
my
city
partners
will
step
up.
We
struggled
with
how
to
make
sure
that
we
get
good
public
engagement
and
good
public
collaboration
for
this.
We
obviously
can't
have
everybody
in
the
room
or
it
wouldn't
be
productive
discussion
right
you're
here,
because
you
represent
different
constituencies.
A
Probably
we'll
talk
more
about
why
you're
here
in
a
little
bit,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
have
some
methods
for
the
public
to
feedback.
So
those
of
you
who
are
neighborhood
representatives,
for
example,
we
hope
that
you're
talking
with
folks
in
your
neighborhoods,
that's
one
way
to
get
feedback.
Others
of
you
talk
with
your
clients
or
your
co-workers,
but
the
city
also
is
going
to
be
doing
some
interviews
with
folks
who
represent
constituencies
that
might
not
be
here
in
the
room.
A
So
if
you
can
think
of
a
group
of
people
who
we
somehow
neglected
to
invite
to
be
part
of
this
process,
please
shoot
me
an
email
with
a
recommendation
for
who
we
might
interview
through
the
city
to
make
sure
that
that
feedback
gets
incorporated.
Okay,
we
want
to
keep
this
an
open
and
transparent
process.
A
Folks
of
you
who
are
on
zoom
and
are
participating
that
way
as
members
of
the
public.
We
also
invite
your
feedback
that
feedback
is
going
to
go
to
the
task
force.
Chair
courtney,
washburn
and
you'll
send
that
feedback
to
the
email
info
at
cityofboise.org,
that's
info
at
cityofboise.org
and
we'll
make
sure
that
information
is
on
the
city
website
for
the
task
force
as
well.
A
A
A
But
I
have
to
balance
your
input
and
your
reflection
with
this
need
to
keep
us
moving.
Okay,
so
sometimes
I'll
make
those
tough
calls,
but
you
all
have
my
email
now
I
think
I
emailed
everybody
last
night,
because
I
missed
a
page
and
a
scan.
A
Conversation-
okay,
great:
we
will
check
that
list.
A
Okay,
yeah!
It
came
yesterday
afternoon.
Okay,
so
just
for
folks
who
are
on
the
zoom,
there's
just
a
content,
some
comments
that
they
did
not
get
an
email
from
me.
I
will
make
sure
that
that
gets
fixed
thanks
for
that.
Okay,
anything
else,
all
right!
So,
let's
see
hi
maureen
how's
it
going.
I
think,
you're
up.
So
we
are
gonna.
A
Have
a
super
brief
presentation
from
maureen
brewer
she's
gonna
introduce
herself,
it's
just
gonna,
be
five
minutes,
and
then
we
are
going
to
talk
with
one
another
you're
actually
going
to
do
a
little
writing
in
those
journals.
We
gave
you
for
just
a
few
minutes
and
then
you're
going
to
have
a
chance
to
talk
with
one
another
about
what
it's
like
to
be
in
this
room
and
sort
of
your
perspectives
on.
What's
happened
so
far,
hi
thanks!
So
much
for
being
here.
V
Hi
everyone
thanks
for
having
me,
I
think
this
isn't
going
to
quite
be
a
presentation
per
se,
but
I
wanted
to
kind
of
give
some
a
framework
and
some
additional
context.
Of
course,
you
all
understand
why
you're
here
today,
so
I
won't
go
over
that
in
detail.
My
name
is
maureen
brewer.
I
think
I've
interacted
with
a
handful
of
you
most
of
you,
I'm
the
senior
manager
for
the
housing
and
homelessness
community
development
division
here
at
the
city.
V
Our
charge
is
to
move
people
experiencing
homelessness
into
permanent
housing.
I
think
you
all
understand
and
can
appreciate
the
complexity
of
that,
especially
given
how
especially
historically
remarkably
under-resourced
we
have
been
so
if
that's
our
north
star
and
that's
something
that
we're
working
towards
you
know
through
our
strategic
plan
and
making
right-sized
investments
etc.
V
We
still
have,
as
the
mayor
and
others
have
mentioned,
a
crisis
tonight,
a
crisis
today,
given
the
heat
outside,
etc
a
crisis
during
the
winter
months,
when
it's
particularly
cold
outside
so
balancing
kind
of
threading
that
needle
between
serving
and
sort
of
supporting
our
emergency
shelter
partners,
while
also
keeping
our
eye
on
the
north
star,
is
really
the
challenge
before
us.
I
wanted
to
specify
that
my
role-
I
will
be
back
before
you,
I
think
in
week,
six
or
so
to
talk
about
citing
a
new
shelter.
V
So
I
just
want
to
name
that
and
put
that
out
there
and
we'll
have
opportunities
to
talk
through
what
those
specific
possibilities
for
sites
might
be.
But
what
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
this
morning-
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
come
home
with
you
in
the
handout-
is
the
shelter
citing
feasibility
criteria.
V
So
without
further
ado,
first,
there
are
six
of
these
total.
The
first
is
land
availability,
so
the
proposed
location-
and
let
me
preface
this
with
one
more
comment-
that
this
isn't
a
theoretical
conversation
necessarily
right,
like
we
have
a
practical
matter
before
us
that
we
need
to
solve.
So
these
feasibility
criteria
are
put
together
with
that
in
mind
as
well.
So
the
first
is
land
availability.
V
V
The
proposed
location
needs
to
be
available
to
develop
or
redevelop
in
a
timely
manner
to
ensure
that
we
can
meet
this
night
by
night
crisis,
one
that
we
in
the
coming
weeks
will
help
quantify
for
you.
The
third
is
a
right-sized
investment.
This
is
tricky,
there's
this
threading
of
the
needle
between
managing
the
crisis
tonight
and
the
investment
that
we
need
for
long-term,
permanent,
supportive
housing.
V
V
Number
five
site
development:
the
proposed
location
must
accommodate
the
needs
in
terms
of
the
proposed
shelter
size,
so
I'm
talking
about
total
number
of
beds
and
who
those
beds
are
designed
to
serve
and
the
parcels
ability
to
support
that
size
so
think,
code,
compliance
and
then
lastly,
number
six
here,
shelter
design
this
the
proposed
location
and
the
design
of
that
shelter
must
be
manageable
for
interfaith
sanctuaries,
operational
needs
and
their
business
plan.
So
this
needs
to
be
something
that
is
both
feasible
and
possible
for
our
shelter
partner
to
carry
out.
A
A
Q
A
Okay,
so,
where
we're
going
to
start
here
is
go
ahead
and
get
out
those
journals
and
pens
or
whatever
you
want
to
write
in
for
today,
and
I
want
to
just
give
you
a
few
minutes
to
answer
these
questions
and
I'll
write
them
on
the
board
too.
A
And
then
the
second
thing
I'd
like
you
to
write
about,
and
here's
where
you
could
maybe
reflect
on
that-
is
respond
to
these
feasibility
principles
that
you
just
heard,
and
that
can
be
a
question
that
you
have
something
that
feels
challenging
something
that
you're
excited
about.
So
let's
just
do
those
two
things:
an
interest
of
time
and
I'll
jot
them
on
the.
A
A
A
A
All
right
now
we're
going
to
just
get
you
up
out
of
your
chairs
for
a
minute
like
you
to
go
meet
somebody
from
across
the
room
that
you
don't
know,
maybe
reintroduce
yourself
and
then
share
a
little
bit
about
what
you
wrote
about.
So
we're
going
to
take
five
minutes
to
do
this.
Well,
my
students
hate
it
and
I
can
see
it
on
your
faces
too.
It'll
be
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
All
right,
I
have
one
more
quick
writing
assignment
for
you
this
time,
I'd
like
you
to
reflect
on
the
readings
that
we
sent
you
for
today.
If
you
had
them,
if
you
didn't
that's
okay,
we'll
catch
you
up,
but
I'd
like
you
to
maybe
pick
out
two
things
from
the
readings
that
struck
you
and
it
could
be
struck
you
positively
or
negatively,
or
maybe
you
have
a
question
about
them
so
and
if,
if
folks
don't
have
them,
I
have
a
couple
of
extra
copies
here.
Just
raise
your
hand.
A
Okay,
so
here's
what
we're
gonna
do
we're
gonna
try
to
have
a
group
conversation.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
us
here,
but
just
as
a
reminder
when
you
speak
just
raise
your
hand
because
we
have
to
get
you
a
mic
and
I'm
going
to
do
my
best
to
record
the
conversation
up
here.
A
So
I'm
interested
both
in
your
reactions
to
the
feasibility
principles
and
in
your
reactions
to
the
readings.
So,
whichever
feels
most
pressing
to
you
now-
and
the
idea
is
just
really
to
surface
what's
top
of
mind
for
you
now
as
opposed
to
trying
to
resolve
anything
today,
we're
going
to
pace
things
out
over
the
next
eight
meetings
and
hopefully
get
you
all
the
answers
and
resources,
you
need
to
make
an
informed
decision.
But
let's
start
talking
about,
what's
on
your
mind
for
today,.
T
Okay,
I
thought
the
the
importance
of
language
was
really
interesting
to
me:
houseless
versus
homeless,
unhoused
versus
homeless.
I
hadn't
thought
about
it
that
way
before,
and
I
just
thought
that
was
something
that
jumped
out
at
me.
The
other
thing
that
jumped
out
at
me
was
the
importance
of
process,
and
I
guess
I
that's
what
I
see
this
group.
T
Hopefully
enabling
is
through
that
process,
greater
information
being
put
out
greater
transparency,
greater
dialogue,
get
better
understanding
of
all
the
different
factors
from
all
points
of
view
and
being
able
to
address
those
so
epitomized
by
the
casc
group
and
the
work
that
they
do.
So
those
would
be
the
two
things
that
jumped.
A
K
So
one
was
the
dates
from
the
writings
being
in
the
1990s
and
that
the
problems
are
still
the
same.
It
was
a
little
scary
that
I
was
reading
sentences
that
were
riding
today
and
we're
still
looking
for
that
solution,
for
how
do
we
create
more
affordable
housing
and
how
do
we
get
more
people
off
the
street?
K
The
other
thing
that
was
really
interesting
to
me
was
the
perception
with,
and
I
hate
even
saying
the
word,
but
the
nimby,
article
and
kind
of
the
misunderstanding
of
language
that
perhaps
the
opposition,
what
they're
trying
to
communicate
is
a
lack
of
being
heard,
equity
equality
that
the
decision-making
process
they've
they
feel
left
out
of,
and
I
I
it
really
resonated
with
me,
because
the
conversations
I
feel
like
we've
been
in
have
been
all
about
the
building,
but
it's
more
than
that,
I
think-
and
I
I
think
it's
really
important,
like
I'm,
hoping
that
this
task
force
allows
for
there
to
be
a
really
clear
picture
of
city
projects
versus
private
non-profit
projects.
K
A
U
Excited
or
optimistic
about
the
things
that
she
was
going
over
those
things
I
was
already
getting
ideas.
I've
had
ideas
as
I've
been
going
through
homelessness
myself,
so
I
feel
optimistic
and
I
feel
like
we
can
all
get
together
and
potentially
make
things
happen.
U
I
feel
really
positive
about
the
things
and
where
we
could
possibly
go
with
all
of
this.
So
just
wanted
to
be
something
positive.
R
I
would
like
to
add
that
I
agree
with
jody
because
the
the
with
house,
without
housing
situation
or
homeless
problem,
which
I
refer
to
as
homelessness,
because
I've
experienced
it
myself
and
my
partner.
I
think
it
goes
much
deeper
than
just
being
without
a
house.
It
goes.
R
It
goes
into
hygiene,
it
goes
into
emotional
stability
and
and
resources
to
help
the
people
who
are
going
through
this
crisis
and
what
it
does
to
their
minds
and
what
it
does
to
the
it
causes
addictions.
It
goes
so
much
deeper
than
just
being
without
a
roof
over
your
head.
There's
there's
people
who
have
pets
that
have
to
that.
R
Just
don't
want
to
give
up
on
those
animals
because
they're
part
of
their
family,
and
it
may
not
seem
like
something
important
to
a
person
who
has
a
house
to
go
to
every
day
or
has
food
on
the
table.
But
I've
had
a
dog
with
me
and
joe
for
the
seven
years
we've
been
together.
I
met
joe
five
minutes
five
months
after
I
got
diesel
and
he
has
been
through
foster
care
he's
been
to
the
pound.
R
We
have
saved
him
so
many
times
and
finally,
we
found
housing
through
tomlins
and
tomlinson
new
new
path,
community
housing
and
it's
been
a
blessing
so
like
I
don't
want
to
beat
a
dead
horse,
but
homelessness
isn't
just
about
not
having
a
roof
over
your
head,
it's
so
much
deeper
and
community
programs
and
counseling
and
and
and
even
the
the
the
opportunity
to
be
involved
in
a
12-step
program
for
someone
who's
homeless.
Who
thinks?
Oh,
my
gosh.
R
A
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
sharing
that.
What
I
heard
is
that
there
are
lots
of
dimensions
of
homelessness
and
also
that
homelessness
is
a
systemic
issue
right,
so
we're
going
to
dive
into
some
of
that
complexity
in
the
meetings
to
come.
I'd
like
to
hear
from
folks
who
haven't
had
a
chance
to
speak
yet
councilman
clay.
L
L
If
people
are
worried
that
they're
not
using
the
correct
language
or
they
don't
know
what
the
correct
language
is
or
if
they're
talking
in
ways
that
aren't
easily
understood
by
whoever
it
is
they're
trying
to
talk
to,
I
think
you
know.
Potentially,
we
have
barriers.
So
I
think
part
of
what
I
hope
this
group
can
do
is
be
open
and
willing
to
listen
to
what.
L
I
I
think
these
are
a
great
start,
but
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
have
a
discussion
around
them
and
particularly
around
criteria
based
on
the
other
part
of
the
community,
where
these
services
will
be
cited
and
the
impacts
on
them.
I
think
if
we
only
have
criteria
on
one
side,
then
we'll
probably
have
missed
the
boat.
A
Yeah,
I
really
appreciate
that
so,
as
I
said
earlier,
I
am
not
an
expert
in
housing
or
homelessness,
and
so
learning
the
appropriate
language
is
also
a
challenge
for
me
being
here,
and
I
think
the
idea
is
to
try
to
be
generous
with
one
another.
That's
why
we
chose
readings
that
sensitize
the
room
to
various
perspectives
right
and
thinking
about
how
we
all
approach
this
this
issue.
A
U
P
Thank
you,
and
with
regard
to
the
reading
start
with
that,
they
words
are
always
changing.
Language
changes,
societies,
change
the
use
of
language,
and
so
it's
all
you
know,
there's
always
it's
always
moving
ahead
of
us,
but
I
think
the
two
things
I
took
away
that
were
valuable
out
of
those
readings
were,
first
of
all,
that
what
people
who
were
that
were
quoted
in
the
articles-
and
that
were
you
know,
were
expressing
opinions
in
these
articles
that
the
real
drive
or
strive.
P
P
We
know
the
people
that
live
with
us
and
we
work
with,
and
each
one
has
a
very
different
story
and
each
one
has
a
you
know
has
a
very
different
way
that
they've
come
in
and
out
of
the
circumstances
that
they're
in
and
how
they're
going
to
get
out
of
that,
and
it
has
to
be
very
personal
to
them,
and
sometimes
language
can
can
block
you
know,
and-
and
we
can
and
we've
heard
it
in
in
you
know
not
just
in
the
meetings
with
these
neighborhoods
but
for
10
years
15
years.
P
I
was
actually
involved
in
community
house
for
this
and
shelter
network
in
santa
maria
san
mateo
county
california,
on
that
board
for
years.
So
it's
it's
not
uncommon
that
people,
you
know
who
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
work
with
a
group
in
this
case
it's
people
who
you
know
don't
have
their
own
home,
but
it
could
be
a
completely
different
group.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
the
individuality
doesn't
get
lost
in
the
name?
P
And
I
think
that's
what
they're
trying
to
share
with
us
and
so
there's
no
perfect
term,
and
you
know
we
don't
want
to
be
police
of
that,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
lose
the
individuality.
With
regard
to
the
second
question,
which
is
these
criteria,
I
feel
like
they're
a
good
start,
but
I
would
agree
that
we
need
to
you
know:
there's
detail
around
every
one
of
those
that
have
to
be
understood
and
there's
multiple
constituencies
around
every
one
of
those
that
need
to
be
understood
as
well.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
and
to
be
clear.
This
is
just
the
start
of
the
conversation
right,
but
it's
good
to
know
sort
of
where
the
city
is
starting.
I
think.
O
Okay,
great,
that's,
okay,
go
really
quick,
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
reiterate
too,
like
what
now
council,
woman
clegg
and
jody
and
andy
have
said
when
we
did
the
exercise
and
we're
talking
about
the
feasibility
principles.
I
talked
to
one
of
the
neighborhood
leaders
and
like
to
me
like
when
I
wrote
it
down.
I
was
like
oh.
J
O
Seem
very
straightforward,
practical,
thorough,
but
there
is
another
perspective
to
be
taken
into
consideration,
and
so
I
just
really
appreciate
all
of
these
perspectives
in
the
same
room
like
if,
if
it
was
just
the
service
providers
making
these
calls
like
jody
said
it
would
be
a
different
outcome
than
if
you
have
all
the
voices
involved.
So
I
really
appreciate
that,
and
this
whole
conversation
has
just
been
making
me
think
about
something
that
at
catch
internally,
we've
been
discussing
recently
about
like
assuming
positive
intent.
O
All
the
time
so
like
everybody
in
this
room,
cares
about
the
subject.
That's
why
we're
here
and
if
we
do
say
something
wrong
or
like
something
comes
out
wrong
like
just
assuming
like,
oh,
like
we
all
have
a
heart
for
this,
and
we
all
want
the
right
outcome
and
being
willing
to
walk
into
any
conversation
like
me
being
willing
to
walk
into
any
conversation
and
have
my
mind
changed
so
anyway.
O
A
G
Please
so
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
the
criteria.
I
really
have
no
preconceived
notion
about
site
or
sites
or
anything,
but
the
bottom
line
for
me
is:
we
have
a.
We
have
a
hospital
service
at
st
alphonse's,
so
we
take
care
of
inpatients
and
we
take
care
of
a
lot
of
people
who
are
low
income
or
homeless
on
that
service,
and
when
I
have
a
patient
who's,
just
gotten
out
of
the
hospital
who's
still
pretty
sick
with
congestive
heart
failure
or
emphysema
or
pneumonia
or
whatever
they
have.
G
A
N
H
So
in
going
over
the
reading
and
what
kind
of
struck
me
I
was
interested
in
how
many
coincidences
there
were,
with
kind
of
the
the
project
at
hand
right
now,
and
also
wondering
about
some
of
the
things
that
came
up
in
the
article
that
maybe
I
don't
have
enough
information
on
yet
to
connect
that,
with
this
specific
or
the
specific
goal
of
this
task
force.
So
I
was
kind
of
trying
to
make
the
connections
where
they
were
and
wondering
what
other
information
about
this
specific
site.
The
specific
goal
that
I
don't
have.
H
H
For
instance,
obviously
the
shortage
in
affordable
housing
was
something
where
I
was
like.
Oh
that
very
much
connects
and
how
housing
prices
were
kind
of
skyrocketing
in
that
particular
city.
H
The
things
that
I
was
a
little
less
clear
on
were
some
of
the
more
specific
points
like
the
commercial
housing
having
the
shelter
there
when
it
was
for
educational
purposes.
So
there
were
some
nuanced
items
that
I
was
a
little
less
clear
on,
but
the
overall
city
comparison-
I
don't
know
I
feel,
like
I'm
still
being
a
little
bit
unclear.
But
oh.
H
D
So
I
felt
very
heard
reading
these
articles,
as
everybody's
noticed
they're
striking
similar
similarities.
Despite
the
20-year
time
gap
and
the
the
difference
in
the
types
of
shelter
being
discussed,
I
thought
that
the
nimby
article
did
a
really
good
job
of
humanizing.
The
opposition.
D
I
think,
as
andy
noted,
there's
been
a
lot
of
depersonalization
in
the
conversations
and
I
think
that
that
has
come
from
both
sides
and
our
group
has
really
been
trying
to
speak
very
respectfully,
honor
all
of
the
individuals
that
would
be
prospectively
served
by
the
project
and
somehow
that
falls
out
in
a
lot
of
the
media
coverage
or
a
lot
of
the
official
statements
that
have
been
made.
D
So
I
I
just
felt
that
it
was
really
important
to
have
that
in-depth
review
of
how
that
opposition
was
feeling
and
a
lot
of
their
concerns
were
mirrored
by
ours
and
similarly,
with
the
casc
article,
we
actually
read
it
in
full,
but
it
just
noted
how
important
it
was
for
the
operator
to
spend
time
engaging
with
the
community
and
specifically
working
to
address
legitimate
concerns,
and
that's
something
that
we
have
felt
has
been
missing.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
katie.
I
really
appreciate
that.
I
think
it's
interesting,
even
your
language
that
you're
calling
yourselves
the
opposition
right.
I
assume
you
you're
talking
about
the
neighborhoods
right
it'll
be
interesting
to
see.
If
that
is
something
we
want
to
stick
with
moving
forward.
Thank
you
so
much
for
those
reflections
who
haven't
we
heard
from
you
who
would
like
to
speak.
Yes,
please
go
ahead.
This.
J
Outreach
just
to
comment
about
the
criteria
and
the
process
that
we're
tasked
with
I'm
really
excited
that
we
are
taking
a
step
back
to
approach
this
in
a
data-driven
way
in
a
strategic
way,
but
also
that
we
are
intentionally
being
inclusive,
and
so
I'm
thinking,
particularly
with
your
invitation
jen
about
what
can
I
do
to
help
bring
in
the
voices
of
the
people
that
I
serve?
J
Who
are
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
experiencing
unsheltered
homelessness
and
some
of
them
some
of
them
probably
could
be
served
differently
in
a
in
a
more
expanded
shelter
situation.
So
I'm
going
to
really
be
thinking
about
that
and
running
that
by
the
group
too,
about
what
you
know.
What
data
do
you
need?
What
voices
do
you
need?
What
other
kinds
of
participation
can
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we're,
including
that
voice
to
people
currently
experiencing
homelessness,.
J
I
I
That
typically
gets
us
in
trouble
when
we
think
we
know
what
others
are
thinking
so
that
that
just
came
to
my
mind
is
really
where
you've
got
to
actually
ask
those
questions
and
and
get
the
understanding
and
not
think
that
you
know
where
someone's
coming
from
because
of
their
educational
background
or
where
they
live
or
or
any
of
those
things.
So
that
really
stuck
with
me
is
where,
where
this
group
has
to
go
to
truly
listening
and
understanding,
as
opposed
to
believing
we
already
know.
A
Q
I
appreciate
everything
that's
been
said.
I
think
most
of
what's
been
said
what
I'm
thinking
has
been
said
already.
I
do
want
to
get
back
to
my
earlier
comment
about
the
pin
being
dropped.
Make
sure
that
I
think
these
guidelines
are
amazing,
but
we
might
need
to
go
outside
of
the
guidelines
even
and
look
beyond
that
for
what's
best
for
the
community
or
we
we
might
not,
and
that's
I
think,
but
I
want
us
to
be
aware
of
that.
Going
forward.
A
Okay,
capturing
that
yeah.
This
is
really
helpful.
I
think
the
team-
and
I
will
brainstorm
ways
to
do
that
in
a
structured
way,
because
there
probably
are
some
pieces
that
are
not
negotiable
right.
We
can't
spend
billions
of
dollars
on
a
shelter-
that's
probably
not
negotiable,
but
there
might
be
other
pieces
where
we
can
have
discussions
and
feedback
right.
Okay,
I
am
going
to
keep
us
moving
because
we
have
another
task
we
need
to
do.
A
I
know
we're
going
to
move.
Sorry
jody.
We
jody
you
are
going
to
be
on
week.
Four
right,
we
have
you
set
up.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
good
point.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
capture
that
for
our
zoom
folks,
jody
was
just
saying
that
it's
been
hard
to
communicate
and
build
trust
with
one
another
because
of
the
pandemic.
I
haven't
been
able
to
see
each
other
in
a
way
we
would
have
liked.
Yeah,
that's
a
great
comment.
A
Okay
here
is
what
I
would
like
for
us
to
do
now
is
based
on
that
conversation.
I
would
like
for
us
just
to
set
up
some
norms
around
how
this
group
might
function
in
terms
of
how
we
want
to
speak
with
one
another
and
how
we
want
to
move
forward.
So
I
could
very
easily
say
you
can't
speak
for
more
than
two
minutes
or
something
like
that.
I'd
rather
not
do
that
I'd,
rather
that
we
as
a
group,
decide
on
some
guidelines
for
engaging
one
another.
A
A
So
I'll
just
model
an
example
of
what
guidelines
could
look
like
based
on
what
you
already
told
me,
one
might
be
I'm
going
to
just
borrow
the
language
I
liked
it.
A
So
be
generous
in
our
interpretations
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is,
you
may
get
your
feelings
heard
in
here
or
may
hear
something
that
offends
you
and
if
you
can
take
a
moment
check
in
with
your
own
reactivity,
we
can
certainly
process
it
if
it's
a
problem
for
the
group,
but
the
idea
is
to
try
to
meet
one
another
in
a
solution
space
right.
Okay,
I
heard
so
I
heard
one
another
one
agree
to
disagree.
A
Well,
we
can
probably
I
can
probably
just
laura-
I
can
probably
just
repeat
them
so
you're
not
running
around.
I
heard
agree
to
disagree.
Yeah.
We
don't
have
to
all
agree
even
on
the
final
recommendations
that
we
don't
have
to
agree
every
week.
Right.
That's
true,
be
yes,.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Has
a
solution
yeah?
Oh!
I
love
that
so
use
the
group
intelligence.
If
you
have
a
problem
or
a
question,
question
bring
it
to
the
group
excellent.
A
Okay,
so
I'll
just
add
one
I
nodded
to
it
earlier.
I
didn't
see
it
at
all
today,
but
some
of
us
are
oversharers.
That's.
S
A
Was
like
the
kid
in
kindergarten
who
was
like
teacher
teacher
teacher,
and
some
of
us
are
introverts
like
my
husband,
who
would
rather
die
than
speak
in
a
group
setting,
so
I
think
it's
just
important
to
know
which
one
you
are
and
to
if
you
are
somebody
who
over
shares,
just
monitor
how
much
you're
contributing
I
already
saw
that
today,
that's
wonderful,
so
that
we
can
make
space
for
other
voices
and,
if
you're,
somebody
who
tends
not
to
participate,
you
might
just
see
if
you
can
rev
up
some
courage
and
contribute
to
the
group
that
way
sound
good.
A
A
C
A
Okay,
so
the
idea
behind
having
a
sort
of
partner
statement
of
commitment
is
simply
because,
as
was
alluded
to
earlier,
things
could
get
rocky
here
and
there,
because
we
might
disagree
on
some
things
and
also
this
is
going
to
take
all
of
us
or
folks.
We
send
in
our
stead
to
really
stay
committed
to
the
process,
because
it's
a
tough
problem
right,
and
so
we
would
like
to
propose
a
statement
of
commitment
that
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
make
changes
to,
because
this
was
just
a
draft.
A
It's
just
what
we
came
up
with
in
a
conference
room,
but
here's
what
we're
proposing
and
then
we're
going
to
have
you
just
talk
with
a
partner
about
changes.
You
might
propose
and
we'll
make
note
of
that
and
then
once
we
get
something
that
we're
all
mostly
happy
with
we'll
print
it
out
and
bring
it
to
future
meetings
as
well.
Okay,
everybody
doesn't
have
to
be
100
happy
but
like
if
this
is
really
unhappy-
and
this
is
extremely
happy
if
everybody's
like
this,
that's
pretty
good
I'll,
be
happy
with
that.
A
We
will
work
in
partnership
with
the
city
and
interfaith
sanctuary
to
advance
the
goals
set
forth
by
this
body.
Again.
This
may
have
pieces
that
you
don't
quite
like
that.
Don't
sound
quite
right
to
you,
so
I
want
to
give
you
a
few
minutes
to
speak
with
somebody
next
to
you
or
a
few
people.
Next
to
you,
maybe
propose
some
changes
and
just
come
up
here.
There's
some
markers
and
just
write
in
some
changes
that
you
might
suggest,
and
we
can
talk
about
them.
Okay,
so
we're
gonna
workshop
this
with
25.
A
A
A
All
right
everybody
we
are
almost
at
time.
I
have
katie's
gonna,
make
one
more
comment
up
here.
We
will
make
sure
to
take
these
into
account
and
do
a
revision
for
next
week
and
then
you'll
have
a
chance
to
kind
of
up
or
down
what
the
revision
we
come
up
with.
Does
that
sound
good?
A
Okay,
thanks
kitty,
all
right,
I'm
gonna
just
turn
things
over.
Oh
quick
comment:
we
do
not
have
a
meeting
next
week,
casey
right
no
meeting
next
week,
because
we're
gonna
double
up
one
in
august,
so
you'll
hear
from
us
in
the
next
few
days,
you'll
hear
from
us
in
the
next
few
days
about
homework
for
the
meeting.
That's
two
weeks
from.
Q
A
A
C
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
again
for
coming.
I
know
it's
summer
and
I
know
everybody
probably
could
think
of
things
they'd
rather
be
doing,
but
on
behalf
of
the
mayor,
we
appreciate
your
service.