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From YouTube: Shelter Better Task Force - Meeting #4
Description
Meeting #4
A
As
we're
getting
started,
I'm
gonna
have
courtney's
gonna,
be
our
first
person
today
and
just
do
an
intro
as
chair
of
the
task
force
and
then
it'll
bounce
back
to
me
and
I'll
do
some
housekeeping
with
you
all
we'll
start
with
the
warm-up
to
get
us
going
and
then
we'll
have
two
presentations
today,
which
I'll
describe
in
more
detail
in
house
coming
or
housekeeping
and
then
we'll
close
up
so
today
should
be,
I
think,
pretty
dynamic,
and
I
know
a
lot
of
folks
were
excited
about
today's
presentation.
So
we'll
get
it
started
with
courtney.
B
Hi
everybody,
and
thanks
for
coming
again,
I
just
as
is
the
course
wanted
to
thank
everybody
for
doing
their
homework
coming
prepared
and
participating.
I
did
want
to
mention
a
concern
and
propose
plans
to
address
it.
I
have
asked
the
neighborhood
representatives
to
stay
after
the
task
force
today,
just
for
a
short
period
of
time
to
hear
my
proposal
to
solicit
community
feedback
from
the
neighborhood
organization.
Specifically,
this
has
been
coming
up
for
the
past
couple
weeks
and
I
think
we're
doing
a
great
job
at
the
education
and
considerations
of
shelter
services.
B
I
think
we
need
to
do
the
same
for
proposed.
Neighborhood
impacts,
one
regardless
of
where
the
shelter
is
located
and
to
anything
specific
to
the
proposed
state
street
location.
So
if
those
folks
could
stay
after
I'd
appreciate
it
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
casey,
I
do
need
to
mention
that
jen
is
out
again.
Unfortunately,
her
mom
passed
away,
but
moving
forward.
She
should
be
able
to
participate
moving
forward.
So
I
appreciate
the
city
staff
stepping
in
as
we
work
our
way
through
this.
So
thank
you.
A
Great
yes,
so,
as
you
heard,
unfortunately,
you
were
stuck
with
me
again
for
today
and
we
will
try
our
best,
but,
as
tom
told
me,
he
has
low
expectations.
So
anything
I
do
is
going
to
be
great
and
you
do
all
have
jen's
email
address.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
think
about
if
there
was
something
that
you
could
send
jen's
way
to.
Let
her
know
that
we're
thinking
about
her
and
we'll
do
something
internally
as
well
for
housekeeping
one.
A
Is
we
have
a
couple
of
special
guests
with
us
today,
so
you
maybe
saw
annie's
face
pop
up
on
the
screen.
That
is
not
annie.
That's
v,
black,
you
all
know
her
annie
from
corporation
for
supportive
housing
is
going
to
be
delivering
some
analysis
that
we
commissioned
for
this
task
force
that
will
move
through
what
are
the
numbers
quantitatively
around
our
shelter
system
and
how
it
scales
to
our
size
of
community,
and
we
also
have
two
other
folks
that
are
coming
in
from
the
boise
police
department
today.
A
So
we
have
lieutenant
mike
hill,
who
is
from
the
community,
outreach
division
that
will
be
giving
a
presentation
in
a
collaboration
with
sarah
busick
who
is
coming
from
our
path
home
connect,
but
we'll
be
speaking
on
behalf
of
our
path
home
outreach,
which
you
all
have
heard
about
in
one
of
our
other
weeks.
And
then
we
also
have
haley
williams
here,
who
works
in
communications,
for
the
boise
police
department
off
to
the
side,
so
just
wanted
to
name
the
new
folks
that
we
have
in
the
room.
A
In
addition,
as
you
saw,
bee's
head
pop
up
she'll
be
participating
virtually
today,
as
will
rebecca
lemons
who's
participating
on
behalf
of
saint
alphonsus.
They
have
particular
rules
in
a
place
for
their
organizations
that
prevent
them
from
participating
in
person
with
covet.
A
So
with
that
kova
19
guidance
says
continue
to
wear
a
mask,
while
you're
inside
try
to
do
a
tiny
bit
of
distancing,
as
you
can
tell
by
our
incredibly
awkward
layout
within
the
room,
we
decided
to
get
you
all
facing
each
other
again
just
to
get
some
more
connection,
because
I
think
we're
moving
more
towards
conversations
and
the
other
thing
that
I'll
say
about
cloven
19.
When
we
hand
you
a
mic,
please
keep
your
mask
on
and
just
like
push
a
little
bit
harder
through.
A
Other
things
is
that
for
the
partnership
statement,
so
last
time
we
asked
y'all
to
jump
up
and
sign
that
rebecca
is
online
and
we're
missing
her
signature.
So
to
get
it
over
to
her,
we
want
to
have
everyone
sign
it
and
then
turn
it
into
a
pdf.
So
she
can
add
her
signature
electronically.
A
A
We
will
also
be
reminding
you
that
we
have
the
facility
criteria
workshop
session,
we're
going
to
stay
after
around
another
30
or
minutes
or
last
time
we
stayed
another
hour,
had
a
conversation
about
the
feasibility
criteria,
we're
continuing
to
collect
information
about
those
and
moving
towards
using
the
information
that
we
collect
from
you
all
in
terms
of
feedback
and
adjustments.
You'd
like
to
see
to
answer
our
frequently
asked
questions
so
that
we're
making
sure
that
we're
getting
as
much
engagement
on
those
feasibility
criteria
as
possible.
A
An
update
is
thank
you
for
all
the
recommendations
for
the
interviews
of
folks
that
you
would
like
us
to
have
conversations
with
again.
The
request
was
for
you
to
name
individuals
that
we
should
have
conversations
with
that
are
not
already
represented
by
someone
in
the
room
so
that
we
are
expanding
the
number
of
perspectives
that
we're
bringing
into
the
conversation
not
wearing
on
top
of
perspectives.
That
already
incredibly
included
in
the
conversation.
A
So
we've
sent
out
more
than
30
invitations
for
individuals
representing
new
constituencies
to
engage
in
the
conversation,
and
that
will
come
before
you
as
a
final
report,
where
we
have
one
pager
is
that
we
are
in
the
interviews
that
rachel
is
doing
a
great
job
of
conducting.
We
have
one
pagers
of
information
that
we
fill
out
and
send
it
back
to
the
agency
or
individual,
and
then
they
do
their
edits
and
send
it
back
to
us
so
you'll
get
that
complete
copy
of
information.
I
think
it
is
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
community
engagement
strategies.
A
I've
seen
on
something
like
this,
so
really
hands
off
to
you
all
for
your
suggestions
and
rachel
for
completing
important
work,
and
the
last
thing
is
this:
is
your
so
august?
23Rd
is
our
due
date
on
those,
so
you'll
get
those
right
as
homework
for
week.
Six.
So
before
we
begin
conversations
about
location
and
feasibility,
yep
and
then
the
last
thing
here.
So
the
question
was:
when
will
they
get
those
for
folks
online?
Remembering
that
we
have
people
on
zoom?
Sorry,
and
then
this
is
the.
A
So
we
are
not
taking
any
more
recommendations
for
interviews
based
on
that
timeline
of
when
we
need
to
get
it
done,
and
it's
already
been
kind
of
challenging
to
schedule,
but
we
are
still
accepting
recommendations
for
locations
and
that
will
end
this
week.
A
So
if
you
all
have
any
other
anywhere
else
that
you
want
us
to
take
a
look
at
please
send
that
we
are
working
with,
as
we've
described
a
couple
of
times,
city
of
boise,
to
do
a
scan
of
land
that
we
have
available
to
us,
and
we've
also
been
working
with
a
brokerage
firm
to
scan
all
purchasable
land
and
then
look
at
off
off
market
purchase
available
land
as
well.
So
we're
doing
a
really
comprehensive
thing.
But
if
you'd
like
to
add
something
for
consideration,
please
let
us
know.
A
Okay
with
that,
that
was
a
lot
more
housekeeping
than
I
thought
the
warm-up.
We
have
one
thing
that
we'd
like
you
to
do
today,
which
is
answer.
What
is
one
question
that
you
hope
to
get
answered
today?
So
you
all
should
have
index
cards?
Do
they
have
a
you?
Should
all
have
index
cards
with
you,
and
I
want
you
to
take
the
time
on
your
index
card
to
just
write
down
one
question
and
as
legible
handwriting
as
you
possibly
can.
A
A
And
then
normally
we
aren't
so
diligent
on
this.
But
when
you're
done
with
your
card,
you
have
a
question
written
because
everyone
needs
to
have
at
least
one
question
down.
If
you
could
raise
it
up
to
signal
to
me
because
we're
going
to
do
something
a
little
bit
different.
And
so,
if
you
could
signal
to
me
that
you
have
your
question
ready
that
someone
else
will
need
to
see
so
make
sure
you
have
a
question
written
down
or
we're
going
to
leave
somebody
out
of
the
next
step.
A
A
A
So
the
point
of
this
right
is
that
we
are
working
in
collaboration
and
part
of
working
collaboratively
is
we
have
to
start
to
understand
how
other
people
approach
problems
or
issues
and
how
that's
going
to
help
us
and
how
we're
going
to
have
to
work
with
them?
So
what
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
do
now
on
this
same
card
is
with
the
card
that
you
have.
A
A
A
A
D
A
E
Okay,
see,
I
guess
just
for
my
responses
to
these
two
questions
I
got
to.
I
would
say
it
would
be
helpful
for
me
to
understand
what
all
the
questions
are,
because
likely
all
of
them
have
some
budgetary
impact
on
someone
and
if
it's
the
city,
I
need
to
know
that.
A
Perfect,
so
we
speaking
of
that's
a
great
transition,
our
ending
place
is
we're
going
to
collect
those
cards,
so
rachel's
going
to
jump
around
and
correct,
collect
those
cards
from
you
all
and
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
we're
adding
those
to
our
larger
document
of
frequently
asked
questions
about
this
task
force,
because
the
questions
that
you
all
have
are
likely
questions
that
other
people
have,
and
you
also
performed
a
little
bit
of
our
work
there
for
us
by
helping
us
answer.
A
Okay,
so
we're
going
to
move
to
our
first
presentation
for
today
that
presentation
is
going
to
be
from
our
our
path,
home
outreach
team
and
from
the
boise
police
department
with
lieutenant
mike
hill,
and
you
kind
of
have
the
objectives
for
what
we're
doing
today.
So
I
won't
do
too
much
more
work
on
this,
but
I'm
going
to
invite
them
to
come
up.
A
We
will
then
do
10
minutes
of
q
a
at
the
end
of
their
presentation,
and
I
will
move
through
those
and
provide
them
to
you.
Unfortunately,
boise
police
department
has
many
things
to
do,
and
so
they
don't
have
enough
time
to
stay
with
us
all
of
today,
but
they're
committed
to
engaging
with
us
in
written
follow-up.
So
we
will
make
sure
that
we
go
through
all
of
those
cards
and
provide
the
answers
to
this
team.
F
Hi
everybody
thanks
for
having
me
here
again
today,
I'm
standing
in
for
jeanette
curtis,
who
is
out
on
vacation
right
now.
She
might
be
tapping
in
right
now
actually
to
watch.
So
I
hope
I
do
her
justice
today.
So
today,
I'm
just
going
to
talk
to
you
guys
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
to
help.
You
understand
what
goes
on
in
the
area
that
I
work.
If
you
look
at
this
picture
right
here,
that
blue
door,
that
kind
of
greenish
blue
door,
that's
my
door
to
my
to
the
office
that
I
work
in.
F
So
I
go.
I
I
come
here
every
day
and
just
want
to
talk
to
you
guys
a
little
bit
about
what
cooper
court
is
and
what
it
looks
like
what
what
creates
the
the
environment
of
cooper
court
and
what
that
looks
like
from
my
perspective.
F
F
So
one.
Obviously,
if
you
go
continue
down
this
street,
so
I'm
taking
this
is.
I
took
this
picture
last
wednesday
if
you're
that's
just
facing
down
cooper
street
from
americana
boulevard,
you
continue
to
go
down
this
street
and
turn
to
the
left.
You
can
access
both
interfaith
sanctuary
and
cooper
or
corpus.
Christi
corpus
christi
is
our
day
shelter,
so
it
is
open
during
the
day.
Currently
interface
sanctuary
is
a
nighttime
shelter.
What
that
means
is
that
people
have
to
leave
they.
F
They
have
to
be
gone
during
the
day,
so
they
they
check
in
at
5
00
pm.
So,
typically,
when
you
and
I
are
driving
home
from
work
every
day,
you're
going
to
see
people
gathering
here,
starting
around
probably
3
30
4
o'clock,
because
they're
waiting
to
get
into
their
registered
bed
interface
sanctuary.
F
Secondly,
corpus
christi
is
down
there
again,
go
down
the
street,
take
a
left
and
you
get
access
to
corpus
christi.
It
is
a
very
small
building.
I
talked
to
mark
who
runs
corpus
christi.
He
said
about
84
folks
can
fit
inside
the
building.
That
is
their
kind
of
occupancy
limit
for
that
building,
and
then
they
have
an
area
outside
for
people
to
hang
out.
F
F
Also,
our
path
home
connect
is
there,
as
I
mentioned
to
you,
that
blue
door,
that's
where
I
work
and
we
do
housing
assessments
with
folks.
Also
our
outreach
team
serves
folks
out
there.
Our
building
is
also
very
small,
we're
very
cramped
for
space
and
so
a
lot
of
times.
The
outreach
team
will
be
working
with
clients
actually
out
in
the
street.
Here
they
will
just
kind
of
meet
them
out
on
the
street
and
work
with
them.
F
So
that's
kind
of
that's
kind
of
cooper
court.
We've
also
got
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
unsheltered,
who
do
not
access
shelter
who
are
in
cooper
court
as
well.
The
reason
for
that
is
because
it
is
safe
there
they
can
access
folks
if
they
need
to.
We
have
unsheltered
people
come
into
the
building
all
the
time
asking
for
various
hygiene
items.
We
have
like
big
baskets
out
front
so
that
people
can
get
hygiene
items
because
also,
I
forgot
to
mention
corpus.
F
Christi
also
does
laundry
and
showers
and
you
have
to
sign
up
for
those
so
and
if
you
miss
your
spot,
you
don't
get
a
shower
or
you
miss
your
your
opportunity
to
get
your
laundry
done.
So
while
people
are
waiting
for
that
appointment
time
for
their
shower
or
their
laundry
they're
also
kind
of
hanging
out
in
this
area
waiting
for
that
time,
because
again,
everything
is
pretty
cramped
back
there.
F
Okay,
so
I
just
wanted
to
show
you.
These
are
pictures
that
I
took
from
these
are
just
from
the
internet
from
when
tent
city
was
very
active,
and
this
is
what
a
lot
of
people
recognize
cooper
court
to
be
somewhere,
where
people
gather
set
up
tents,
sleep
do
drugs
all
of
those
things
and
and
if
you
could
do
next
slide
rachel.
F
So
this
is
last
wednesday.
Now
I
didn't
do
this
for
any
reason
other
than
I
was
sitting
down
to
create
my
presentation-
and
I
was
like
I
wonder
what
it
looks
like
out
there
right
now,
so
this
is
about
1
40
last
wednesday,
as
you
can
see,
so
that
first
picture
is
after
you
turn
left.
F
That's
so
on
the
right
there,
that's
the
entry
gates
for
interface
sanctuary
and
if
you
continue
down
that
back
alley,
where
you
see
that
car
to
the
left
is
corpus,
christi,
okay
and
then
that
next
picture
is
actually
inside.
I
walked
right
inside
the
gates
at
interface,
sanctuary
to
show
you
guys
where
they
have
their
cooling
space
for
folks
right
now,
because
we
don't
have
enough
space
right
now
for
people
to
be
during
the
day.
F
F
Currently,
corpus
christi
is
our
only
day,
shelter
space,
that
is,
that
is
true
day
shelter
again,
as
I
mentioned,
they
have
about
84,
they
have
their
occupancy
limit
inside
is
84
people
with
all
of
the
items
in
there.
I
wouldn't
imagine
that
you
can
fit
84
people
in
there
because
they
also
have
a
large
like
a
clothing
area
like
a
clothing,
closet
area,
but
it's
expanded
into
their
main
area
instead
of
being
in
a
back
office.
F
F
F
F
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
reason
to
judge
or
talk
about
the
reasons
that
people
choose
not
to
enter
shelter.
Those
are
just
the
facts.
Anyone
who
comes
to
see
us
and
says
that
they
aren't
accessing
shelter
during
a
housing
assessment.
We
just
ask
them
why,
so
that
we
can
learn
from
that
data
and
make
decisions
moving
forward
when
we
have
the
opportunity
to
create
a
better
shelter
environment
for
our
folks.
F
Also,
when
you
come
out
to
cooper
street,
you
may
see
lots
of
folks.
We
have
a
lot
of
partners
that
we
work
with
at
within
the
cooper
street
area.
So
obviously
we
work
with
the
boise
police
department,
the
department
of
health
and
welfare,
which
is
going
to
include
things
like
cps
mobile
crisis.
Oh
thank
you.
So
mobile
crisis
they're
a
mental
health
first
responder
that
works
for
the
department
of
health
and
welfare.
F
We
also
have
mental
health
partners.
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
remember
or
not,
but
jeanette's
team.
The
outreach
team
has
created
a
really
awesome
partnership
with
human
supports
of
idaho.
We
actually
have
a
mental
health
professional
that
goes
out
with
the
outreach
team
to
try
and
get
clients
connected
to
mental
health
services.
So
you'll
see
that
going
on
out
there,
and
then
we
do
have
the
ada
county
paramedics
coming
out
periodically
for
people
who
may
feel
that
they
need
some
sort
of
medical
care.
F
F
One
thing
that
I
also
wanted
to
mention
here
is
that
more
often
than
not
our
homeless
population,
they
are
the
victims
over
being
perpetrators
of
any
any
incidents.
Typically
they're
highly
victimized
they're
highly
vulnerable.
F
So
I
just
kind
of
want
to
throw
that
out
there.
It's
it's,
not
a
dangerous
environment
to
be
out
on
cooper
street.
Those
folks
are
typically
when
we
get.
When
I
go
out
there,
there
are
folks
sitting
on
their
walkers
in
their
wheelchairs
people
sleeping.
You
know,
people
just
trying
to
stay
out
of
the
elements
and
stay
out
of
the
way
so
that
they
can
get
what
they
need.
F
I
think
that's
it
yeah
and
then
just
lastly,
just
talking
to
talking
to
the
point
of
adapting
to
a
shift
in
shelter.
The
cool
part
about
being
an
outreach
team
is
that
we
already
go
to
where
our
unsheltered
population
is
so
if
there
were
to
be
any
sort
of
shift
in
the
unsheltered
population,
the
outreach
team
would
be
able
to
adapt
to
that
really
really
easily.
F
But
what
we
see
and
what
we
believe
to
happen
is
that
that
unsheltered
audience
is
going
to
stay
at
cooper
at
the
cooper
street
area,
because
many
times
more
often
than
not
they're
accessing
services
at
corpus
christi,
and
so
they
they
stay
near
those
resources.
So
we
we
anticipate
remaining
in
our
current
service
area,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
if
things,
if
things
do
change,
we
are
very
well
equipped
to
adapt,
because
that
is
what
the
outreach
team
does
they
go
out
to
where
folks
who
are
unsheltered
are
located.
G
Good
morning,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
down
and
speak
briefly
with
you
about
this
issue.
We
do
have
a
powerpoint
presentation
as
well
to
give
a
little
background
on
the
boise
police
department.
We're
currently
fielding
around
300
sworn
officers
in
three
different
divisions,
patrol
division,
which
is
the
people
you
see
generally
driving
around
patrol
cars
and
responding
to
day-to-day
calls.
G
The
community
outreach
division,
which
I'm
a
lieutenant
in,
and
our
criminal
investigations
division,
which
essentially
fields
our
detective
units
and
investigates
long-term
crimes
as
a
lieutenant
in
the
community
outreach
division.
We
are
invested
in
solving
problems
or
addressing
problems,
not
just
in
neighborhoods
but
in
business
areas
as
well.
We
subscribe
to.
G
Can
you
go
to
the
next
slide
for
me
with
regard
to
community
policing,
we're
looking
to
achieve
solutions
to
problems
using
the
following
goals:
we'd
like
to
build
relationships,
connect
people
with
the
resources
that
they
need,
whether
it's
just
general
crime,
solving
or
crime
attention,
or
some
type
of
long-term
solution
through
social
work
or
other
resources
in
the
community,
with
the
ultimate
goal
of
decreasing
unnecessary
police
contacts.
G
With
regard
to
the
cooper
court
area,
and
our
current
did
you
have
some
oh.
G
Okay,
I
got
you,
I
got
you
within
our
community
outreach
division
and
our
point
unit
that
has
the
most
contact
with
the
the
unsheltered
and
sheltered
population
down
around
the
cooper
area.
Right
now,
as
our
bike
unit,
I
currently
supervise
that
unit.
G
G
Through
those
contacts
they
have
become
our
lead,
our
lead
unit
on
the
department
with
regard
to
homeless
interaction
and
outreach
and
trying
to
solve
some
of
the
problems
that
not
only
we
have,
but
they
have
with
regard
to
being
victims
of
crimes.
G
G
In
my
opinion,
having
supervised
the
unit
for
the
last
18
months,
they
are
constantly
interacting
with
people
experiencing
homelessness,
either
in
the
cooper
area
or
on
the
green
belt
or
in
the
parks
offering
resources
offering
outreach,
sending
them
towards
catch,
sending
them
towards
health
and
welfare,
sending
them
towards
services
that
we
can't
provide,
but
we
have
interact,
or
we
have
interactions
with
so
that
we
can
get
these
people
to
a
point
where
we're
not
constantly
responding
to
any
incidents
or
problems
that
they
have
trying
to
help
them
solve
their
own
problems
and
move
them
along
to
a
path.
G
With
regard
to
the
bike
unit
and
all
of
bpd,
all
of
our
officers
on
the
department
have
received
crisis
intervention
training.
It's
a
40-hour
course
that
takes
them
through
de-escalation
techniques,
how
to
handle
problem
situations,
how
to
handle
and
mitigate
people
who
may
be
experiencing
crisis,
whether
that's
some
type
of
mental
crisis
or
a
substance
abuse
issue.
G
It
also
familiarizes
those
individuals
with
the
numerous
resources
we
have
in
boise
to
help
those
individuals
that
they're
interacting
with
whether
that's
some
substance,
abuse,
counseling
resources,
terry
riley
or
mental
health
resources.
It's
a
very
robust
40-hour
course.
It
was
I've
been
in
law
enforcement
now
for
almost
30
years,
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
saying
this
to.
For
any
other
reason
to
say
it
was
very
important
to
me
to
have
gone
through.
G
That
course,
I
spent
a
number
of
years
in
our
detective
division,
not
interacting
necessarily
with
individuals
out
on
the
street.
When
I
did
return
to
the
street
as
a
sergeant,
I
noticed
that
we
were
responding
to
people
in
crisis
on
a
much
more
tremendously
more
frequent
basis
and
that
crisis
intervention
training
really
allowed
me
to
have
some
insight
into
how
to
de-escalate
and
deal
with
folks
and
try
not
to
create
a
bigger
problem.
Out
of
the
problem,
I
was
trying
to
deal
with
so
again.
G
All
of
our
officers,
as
of
I
believe
april
of
this
year,
have
gone
through
that
crisis.
Intervention
training
course,
in
addition
to
those
outreach
that
that
kind
of
granular
outreach
resource
that
we
have
on
the
street,
we're
also
fielding
a
behavioral
health
response
team,
two
of
them
and
what
those
are
is
a
civilian
licensed
clinical
social
worker,
a
clinician
paired
up
with
a
sworn
officer
who
respond
to
our
some
of
our
chronic
callers
and
some
of
our
people
that
are
experiencing
crisis
over
and
over
again
and
pointing
them
towards
resources
and
facilitating
them.
G
G
They
are
extremely
knowledgeable
in
how
to
deal
with
folks.
They
are
knowledgeable
about
all
the
resources
that
are
available
that
a
lot
of
people
may
not
know
about.
In
addition,
in
probably
2022
as
we
get
the
program
built,
we're
going
to
stand
up,
what's
called
a
service
coordination
team,
it's
very
similar
to
the
b
hert
model.
G
With
a
clinician
and
a
sworn
officer
paired
in
a
car,
their
focus
is
going
to
be
on
substance,
abuse
and
other
alcohol
abuse,
chronic
callers
and
issues
and
people
and
pointing
them
towards
the
resources
that
may
maybe
is
more
appropriate
towards
that.
We
anticipate
again
that
being
stood
up
in
2022.
G
So
in
the
cooper
court
service
area
we
get
a
lot
of
calls
right.
The
calls
are
our
top
calls
for
service
trespassing,
illegal
parking,
welfare
check,
traffic,
stop
liquor,
violation
problem
with
the
subject
in
illegal
camping.
Not
all
of
those
are
criminal
incidents,
but
we
do
have
a
a
robust
team
of
the
bike
officers,
downtown
patrol
officers
and
others
who
are
tasked
with
responding
to
those
those
calls
for
service.
That's
a
very
small
area,
but
we
do
respond
down
there.
A
fair
amount
towards
those
those
top
calls.
G
This
map
of
it
shows
you
our
call
response
areas
we
have
divided
up
into
11.
Different
areas
looks
like
five
on
the
bench
and
five
and
or
six
in
the
I'm
sorry,
six
on
the
bench
and
five
in
the
valley.
Those
areas
are
staffed
with
officers
24
7
that
respond
to
the
calls
that
occur.
G
We
are
already
staffed
and
already
responding
to
numerous
calls
throughout
the
city
and,
as
we've
always
done,
we'll
shift
our
resources
in
the
event
that
we
have
to,
and
we
can
shift
we're
very
a
very
nimble
organization
to
pivot,
to
problems,
address
those
problems
and
put
long-term
solutions
in
place
so
that
we
do
not
continually
respond
to
that
type
of
stuff,
and
I
think
I'm
supposed
to
follow
up
on
your
on
the
shift
for
services.
G
Yes,
yeah
the
main
point
with
regard
to
any
move,
regardless
of
where
it
is,
we
anticipate
to
see
an
increase
for
in
calls
for
service
to
that
area.
Just
it's
that's
a
natural
flow
from
an
increase
in
population.
We
are
a
nimble
organization.
We
will
pivot
to
those
issues.
G
We
will
address
the
acute
ones
up
front,
the
chronic
long-term
issues.
We
will
design
strategies
and
response
plans
to
mitigate,
if
not
eliminate
those
issues,
and
that's
going
to
be
a
working
relationship
with
the
individuals
running
the
shelter,
the
community
around
the
shelter
and
other
resources
that
we
can
bring
to
bear
to
solve
those
problems
and
and
not
yes,
solve
the
problems
and
keep
moving
down
the
road.
A
A
The
first-
and
I
think
maybe
this
starts
with
lieutenant
hell-
is
how
to
deal
with
police
calls
that
criminalize
those
experiencing
homelessness
versus
safety
and
legal
concerns.
So
I
think
you
showed
some
of
the
top
things
that
are
happening
within
cooper
court
and
if
you
could
maybe
just
expand
on
what
role
do
you
all
have
in
and
what
do
those
relate
to
for
like
activities
associated
with
being
a
person
experiencing
homelessness,
and
then
I
think,
linking
that
to
more
of
the
safety
or
legal
concerns.
G
G
People
experiencing
homelessness
have
a
propensity
to
be
the
victims
of
crimes
on
a
on
a
more
frequent
basis
than
you,
and
I
would
right
check,
cashing
scams,
drug
dealing
and
other
things
that
just
victims
of
being
exposed
all
the
time.
G
So,
through
our
outreach
through
the
bike
unit
and
through
our
other
divisions
on
the
department,
we
make
an
attempt
to
intervene
in
that
and
prevent
that
from
happening
as
well
as
dealing
with
the
criminal
elements
that
arise
out
of
that,
whether
it's
with
the
population
that
that
we're
talking
about
or
with
those
outside
populations
coming
in
to
to
victimize.
Does
that
somewhat
answer
the
question.
A
So
this
next
question,
I
think
there
are
kind
of
two
and
so
pick
between
the
two
of
you,
how
you
want
to
do
it
and
what
comes
first,
but
the
question
is
understanding
the
confluence
of
resources
at
cooper
court.
Now,
how
will
we
for
folks
that
are
in
interfaith
sanctuary
if
it
were
to
move
to
a
different
location?
F
I
can
answer
a
piece
of
that,
so
one
interface
sanctuary
has
already
graciously
offered
that
wherever
they
are
located,
they
will
have
an
open
office
space
for
the
outreach
team
and
or
the
our
path
home
connect
team
so
that
we
can
go
directly
to
clients.
We
actually
do
that
right
now,
scaled
back
a
little
bit
only
because
covid
has
has
made
a
resurgence,
but
when
clients
are
over
at
the
red
lion,
we
are
in
direct
contact
with
those
case
managers
over
there
and
we're
consistently
going
back
and
forth.
F
Okay,
who
do
you
have
at
the
red
line
right
now?
Have
they
accessed
services?
Do
they
have
everything
they
need?
Let's
get
them
a
housing
assessment
and
let
them
understand
what's
available
so
in
terms
of
outreach
and
homeless
connect.
We
are
our
path
home
connect.
We
would
go
to
them
and
have
the
resources
to
do
so.
A
Great
and
then
the
next
question
I
think
kind
of
related
to
that
is
around
the
unsheltered
folks.
I
think
you
all
addressed
the
interface
sanctuary
services,
folks,
who
are
involved
in
shelter,
and
then
you
had
touched
on
unsheltered
many
questions
here
about
how
do
we
know
or
why
do
we
think
that
the
unsheltered
population
and
we're
servicing
isn't
headed
towards
interfaith
and
what
is
the
difference
of
services
or
what
is
the
difference
of
access
between.
F
Right
corpus,
christi
currently
folks,
who
are
unsheltered,
do
not
access
shelter
right,
like
that's
the
definition,
so
there's
nothing
that
they're
getting
currently
from
interfaith,
so
they
have
no
reason
to
access
interfaith.
I
think
there's
just
a
little
bit
of
confusion,
because
both
of
those
locations
like
corpus,
the
day,
shelter,
corpus,
christi
and
interfaith
are
right.
F
Next
to
each
other,
our
unsheltered
population
is
going
to
continue
to
access
corpus
and
they're,
going
to
continue
to
be
on
cooper
street
and
and
in
the
parks
where
they,
where
they
currently
are
relocating
interfaith
is
not
going
to
change
that
in
in
my
educated
guess.
We
obviously
can't
tell
the
future
if
we
could,
then
then
we
wouldn't
even
be
having
this
meeting
right,
but
interfaith
is,
is
exclusive
of
corpus
christi
in
terms
of
who
accesses
which
service.
F
A
A
F
Yeah,
so
in
terms
of
boise
rescue
mission,
they
are
a
nighttime
shelter
only
so
they
do.
There
is
quite
a
bit
of
traffic,
also
coming
from
river
of
life
and
city
light
into
the
cooper
street
area.
F
We
serve
anyone
who
who
wants
who
needs
services
from
us,
and
we
we
anticipate
that
we
will
continue
to
serve
that
population
in
that
area.
I
think
probably
most
almost
everyone
here
is
familiar
with
the
fact
that
boise
rescue
mission
ministries
is
literally
one
block
or
two
blocks
away
from
interfaith
sanctuary.
You
know,
so
not
only
do
you
have
in
the
that
there's
a
huge
confluence
there
as
well,
because
people
are
entering
and
exiting
the
boise
rescue
mission
ministry,
shelter
and
we'll
continue
to
serve
them.
The
same
way
that
we
do
now.
G
And
I
would
speak
in
the
same
the
same
vein:
there
we
have
working
relationships
with
river
life,
wca
interface
sanctuary
in
an
attempt
to
do
that
community
outreach
and
the
the
problem-solving
relationship
building.
I
don't
anticipate
that
changing
with
any
potential
move
for
interfaith.
G
A
And
I'm
going
to
have
you
stay
right
there
for
a
follow-up
on
that?
This
question
is:
will
a
so
I'm
going
to
put
it
into
context?
Will
a
move
to
any
area
outside
of
right?
Now?
Interfaith
is
in
district,
whichever
one
you
told
us,
it
moves
to
district
different
one
than
that
will
the
response
times
change
not
only
for
the
individuals
experiencing
homelessness,
but
the
community
and
the
services
that
they
access
from
you
or
other
emergency
responders.
G
G
Do
an
analysis
of
those
come
up
with
solutions,
work
with
the
the
shelter
operator,
the
neighboring
communities
and
all
the
resources
that
we
can
bring
to
bear
and
and
respond
appropriately
to
those
so
that
we
can
mitigate
any
future
issues.
A
Okay
thanks
so
much
for
the
sake
of
time
and
because
we
also
have
a
second,
really
impressive
presentation
for
you
today
I
want
to.
I
know
we
haven't
been
doing
this,
but
if
you
want
to
clap
for
them
and
say,
thank
you
so
much
up
to
you
and
like
we
said
we
will
continue
to
collect
questions
that
you
have
that
you'd
like
either
explicitly
answered
by
our
outreach
team
or
the
boise
police
department.
A
We
will
continue
collecting
those,
and
then
we
will
come
back
to
you
in
written
format
with
answers
that
we
have
for
all
of
those
things.
Thank
you
guys
so
much
and
now
we're
going
to
move
on
to
annie.
So
I'm
gonna,
let
annie
do
an
introduction
of
themselves
if
you
need
to
like
stand
up
and
shake
it
off
in
between
take
a
second
to
do
that
now,
while
annie's
jumping
on
the
screen,
annie
works
for
the
corporation
for
supportive
housing,
we
work
with
them
out
of
housing
and
community
development.
A
Right
now,
we
are
in
a
larger
project
to
do
a
permanent,
supportive
housing
steering
committee,
where
we
are
looking
at
doing
some
of
the
things
that
you've
heard
about,
including
developing
a
developing
a
long-term
plan
for
increasing
the
number
of
units
and
permanent
supportive
housing
that
we
offer
in
the
city
of
boise
to
address
long-term
need.
A
But
for
this,
annie
worked
with
another
consulting
firm
agnew
back
and
our
homeless
management
information
system,
where
we
currently
keep
all
the
information
as
federally
required
about
the
population
that
is
entering
into
homelessness
and
the
services
we
provide
them.
They've
done
a
deep
scan
of
this
and
they're
going
to
be
presenting
to
you
today
about
what
is
the
capacity
of
the
shelter
system
in
the
city
of
boise
so
annie?
Are
you
on
there.
H
H
Right
now,
let's
see
one
sec
here.
H
Yeah
rachel
has
rachel,
has
them
so
maybe
rachel
you
can
just
pull
them
up.
I'm
having
a
hard
time
with
my
security
and
privacy
settings.
I
guess.
A
Sorry
about
this,
thanks
guys
for
being
in
it
with
us.
Yes,.
A
I
Yeah,
so
just
just
so
you
know,
interface
sanctuary
does
operate
during
the
day.
We
do
day,
programming
preschool
parenting
classes,
recovery,
mental
health,
food
service,
training
and
employment,
but
we
do
that
for
participants.
So
we
can't
serve
everyone
who
stays
in
our
shelter
overnight,
but
we
are
open,
24
7
at
both
the
emergency,
shelter
and
the
hotel,
shelter
with
programming.
A
And
that's
the
challenge
for
us
of
bifurcating
this
system
and
having
different
presenters
speak
on
behalf.
Many
of
the
questions
that
you
all
answered
were
pointedly
about
interface,
sanctuary
operations,
which
I
held
back
because
we
will
be
hearing
from
interfaith
sanctuary
next
week
and
who
better
to
answer
those
than
them
directly.
So
a
lot
of
those
questions,
if
you're
wondering
why
they
didn't
come
up,
is
because
they
will
be
given
to
interfaith
sanctuary
and
incorporate
it
into
their
presentation.
Great
we're
here
annie
ready
to
go.
H
Thank
you.
I
still
can't
be
on
video,
but
that's
okay.
I
was
for
a
moment
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
H
People
can
remember
my
face
so
good
morning
almost
afternoon
and
as
as
casey
said,
my
name
is
annie
bocce
and
I
work
for
the
corporation
for
supportive
housing,
also
known
as
csh,
and
we've
been
working
in
boise
since
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
oh
great.
Now
I
can
be
on
video.
I
believe
so
you
all
should
see
me
if
you
don't
see
me
now
should
see
me
in
a
moment.
H
So
we
have
been
working
with
the
city
and
its
partners
around.
How
do
we
create
goals
and
a
plan
for
adding
new
permanent
housing
solutions?
Which,
of
course,
is
you
know
kind
of
inextricably
linked
to
how
much
shelter
you
need
and
how
you
operate
your
shelter
system,
but
as
a
small
task
attached
to
that
scope
of
work?
I
have
also
been
working
with
my
colleague
wyatt,
who,
I
believe,
most
of
you,
if
not
all
of
you
know
pretty
well
with
agnew
butt
consulting
to
do
some
modeling
around.
H
What
are
the
total
number
of
shelter
beds
that
we
think
we
need
here
in
boise,
as
you
all
are
making
decisions
around
where
the
shelter
is
ultimately
located
and
the
kinds
of
services
that
happen
there,
which
I
know
I've
been
following
along
with
with
casey
and
rachel
about
the
conversations
that
you've
had
leading
up
to
this
one?
So
I'm
here
to
share
some
of
our
analysis
today
and
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Rachel.
H
And
I
appreciate
you
saying
that
this
was
going
to
be
a
great
presentation
casey,
but
I
also
heard
you
say:
expectations
low
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
So
hopefully,
hopefully
you
all
can
meet
me
in
the
middle
here,
because
what
I'm
about
to
talk
through
is
based
on
the
data
that
we
have
available
in
our
system.
H
Today
and
often
when
I
talk
about
data
in
communities,
I
think
of
a
quote
by
arthur
ashe
who's,
a
champion
tennis
player,
who
says
start
where
you
are
and
use
what
you
have
do,
what
you
can
and
that's
always
what
I
think
about
when
I
talk
data,
because
what
we're
looking
at
here
now
is
the
data
that
we
have
available
to
us
in
our
homeless
management
information
system-
and
I
think
one
of
our
biggest
recommendations
to
the
city
and
to
its
partners
here
is
that
the
data
systems
and
the
level
of
rigor
here
needs
to
be
bolstered
and
really
from
here.
H
There's
more
work
to
be
done
around
data
collection,
data
quality
and
talking
with
some
of
our
shelter
providers
about
their
individual
programmatic
level,
data
which
may
or
may
not
be
captured
in
some
of
the
hmis
data.
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
missing
pieces
that
we
had
to
build
some
assumptions
off
of
is
that
we
don't
have
exit
data.
So
you
know
where
are
people
going
when
they
leave
our
shelter
system?
So
just
because
someone
leaves
it
doesn't
mean
they've
identified.
H
A
permanent
housing
placement
doesn't
mean
that
they're
not
showing
back
up
in
our
shelter
system
at
another
period
of
time.
So
I
want
to
caveat
that
today
that
we've
had
to
use
some
assumptions,
but
we've
also
spoken
with
our
path,
home
connect
and
our
path
home
outreach,
and
we
have
some
qualitative
data
as
well.
H
That
has
informed
our
analysis
and
I
think
that
you
know
we're
going
to
be
talking
through
some
quantitative
data,
but
it's
really
important
to
understand,
and
it
was
so
helpful
to
hear
sarah's
presentation
as
well
as
lieutenant
hill,
some
of
the
qualitative
considerations
that
go
into
this,
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
most
important
perspectives
is
that
of
the
consumers
that
are
going
to
either
use
or
decide
not
to
use
the
shelter
system
that
we're
designing
here
in
boise.
H
H
Thank
you.
I
also
want
to
give
the
caveat
that
there
are
some
special
populations
that
we
want
to
make
sure
we
consider
in
the
build-out
and
design
of
a
new
shelter
at
a
new
shelter
site,
and
that
is
those
experiencing
unsheltered
homelessness.
Those
are
not
you
know.
Sarah
said
kind
of
by
definition,
they're
not
showing
up,
often
in
our
homeless
system
data
they're,
certainly
not
showing
up
in
our
shelter
data
and
so
point
in
time.
H
Count
2020,
which
was
really
the
last
sort
of
robust
point
in
time,
count
that
we
had
due
to
covid
showed
83
individuals.
H
But
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
considered
as
part
of
capacity
planning
because,
as
you
make
shelter
lower
barrier-
and
you
include
the
kinds
of
services
that
I
know
my
colleagues
from
the
national
alliance
and
homelessness
shared
with
you
in
the
last
session,
you
may
have
more
demand
on
your
shelter.
Are
more
people
willing
to
come
in
to
participate
in
shelter?
H
And
this
is
a
population
that
has
experienced
a
lot
of
trauma
and
has
a
highly
vulnerable
population.
So
you
want
to
make
sure
you're,
considering
not
just
said
capacity
but
services
for
this
population,
and
then
also
young,
youth
and
young
adults
experiencing
homelessness
are
not
going
to
be
included
in
some
of
these
numbers
that
you
have
here.
But
this
is
again
an
extremely
vulnerable
population
experiencing
homelessness
and
there
are
often
services
and
safety
considerations
for
this
population.
H
H
Many
of
you
might
be
pretty
familiar
with
this
in
terms
of
the
number
of
beds
available
on
a
given
night
for
a
particular
population,
and
we
do
we
are
operating
some
additional
shelter
or
auxiliary
shelter
that
I
believe
was
stood
up
as
a
in
a
response
to
the
covid19
crisis
that
is
representing
about
142
beds.
H
I've
worked
in
have
an
overflow
shelter
capacity
when
you
think
about
climate
and
it's
both
extremely
hot
weather,
as
well
as
extremely
cold
weather.
Air
quality
considerations
are
something
that
we're
all
dealing
with
in
the
west
too,
and
so
we
have
that
overflow
ability
reflected
here
too
so
603
beds
is
our
capacity
without
the
additional
shelter
at
red
lion,
which
is
now
at
142..
H
What
we
wanted
to
focus
on
here
is
what
is
the
average
shelter
usage
based
on
like
the
number
of
beds
that
are
occupied,
and
so
you
know,
there's
peak
demands,
there's
times
of
lower
demands,
and
so
in
our
analysis,
over
the
last
three
years
we
looked
at
the
average
demand
over
the
course
of
a
year
or
on
a
given
night
over
a
year
and
what
you'll
see
here
is
reflected
the
total
number
on
the
bottom.
H
H
Okay,
so
this
is
what
we
were
looking
at
in
terms
of
the
shelter
demand
and
you
can
see
the
shelter
demand
is
kind
of
on
the
left-hand
side
of
this
image
and
the
shelter
capacity
is
on
the
right
and
all
the
way
over
the
first
column
on
the
left
talks
about.
H
So
when
you
look
at
the
shelter
demand,
if
we
can
get
to
that
average
30
day
length
of
stay
by
creating
more
exits
or
more
throughput
in
our
system,
we
can
keep
that
demand
lower
because
more
people
can
use
a
given
bed
within
a
year.
But
we
also
wanted
to
make
some
assumptions
around.
What
would
peak
demand
look
like
so
this
is
for
this
is
when
we're
thinking
about
okay,
we
want
a
plan
for
making
sure
we
have
the
most
number
of
shelter
beds.
H
We
could
possibly
need
in
our
community,
and
so
we
looked
at
the
average
shelter
utilization
figure.
We
took
into
account
that
there's
going
to
be
an
under
account
under
count
in
using
hmis
data,
because
we
have
some
providers
that
maybe
aren't
entering
into
hmis,
so
we
thought
at
least
five
percent
of
the
data
wasn't
captured
here.
H
We
added
that
back
in
and
then
we
also
added
some
assumptions
around
an
annual
growth
rate
or
new
households
experiencing
homelessness
of
two
percent,
and
then
we
assumed
okay,
what
if
we
were
able
to
offer
a
more
low
barrier
solution
in
a
new
location,
we
could
have
a
30
up
to
a
30
percent
increase
in
in
households
willing
to
come
into
shelter.
That
previously
were
not,
and
so
that's
where
you
see
those
are
the
assumptions
that
went
into
this
peak
demand
column.
H
Second,
from
the
left,
which
takes
us
to
this
579
number,
which
is
bumping
up
against
our
current
capacity,
but
not
quite
tipping
us
over
and
then
again
it's
important
to
think
through
the
different
kinds
of
populations,
and
so,
if
you
take
those
peak
demand
assumptions
that
I
just
talked
through,
we
have
43
more
beds
potentially
than
we
need
for
individuals
and
we're
short
about
100
111
for
families,
and
so
this
is
something
that's
interesting
for
you
all
to
consider
inciting
a
new
shelter
in
terms
of
how
do
you
use
your
total
number
of
beds
differently,
potentially
or
for
different
populations
or
programming,
and
I
know
there's
probably
going
to
be
questions
and
discussions
I'll
make
sure
to
get
through
the
content.
H
So
in
terms
of
recommendations,
again
having
system-wide
goals
and
being
able
to
make
decisions
at
the
system,
level
is
a
really
important
shift
for
communities
to
make
in
order
to
create
this
throughput
or
flow
through
their
system,
and
so,
as
we
mentioned,
we're
also
currently
working
with
the
city
on
creating
permanent
housing
goals
and
looking
at
some
of
our
existing
and
new
resources
in
the
community
and
how
we
create
new,
permanent
housings
to
create
exits
from
homelessness
and
that's
for
sheltered
and
unsheltered.
H
And
so
you
know,
if
that
average
length
of
fit
of
stay
30
days
or
less
sounds
like.
Is
this
an
achievable
goal
in
our
community
like?
Where
are
people
going
to
go?
I
want
to
just
anchor
that
here
and
some
of
the
five-year
goals
that
we're
talking
through
now
with
the
city,
including
annually,
adding
87
units
of
permanent
housing,
permanent,
supportive
housing
for
individuals,
21
units
of
rapid
rehousing
and
then
some
diversion
which
I
know
the
national
alliance
spoke
with
you
all
about
as
well
is
like.
H
Can
we
keep
people
in
their
housing
situation
before
bringing
them
into
the
homeless
system
and
again
for
families?
You
may
be
aware
that
there's
the
families
campaign
happening
now,
which
is
talking
about
a
hundred
units
of
rental
assistance
annually
for
rapid
rehousing.
H
It's
referred
to
often
four
families
and
up
to
25
permanent
supportive
housing
units,
as
well
as
that
diversion
component,
and
so
these
are
all
tools
that
can
help
us
get
to
that
shorter
length
of
stay
for
folks,
and
then
I
think
the
other
thing
that
I
want
to
talk
through
in
terms
of
a
recommendation
is
that
if
you
have
less
capacity
in
your
shelter
system
or
less
demand
for
the
capacity
in
your
shelter
system
over
time,
because
you
are
successful
at
creating
exits
to
permanent
housing,
then
you
can
start
to
think
about
how
you
use
your
current
shelter
capacity
differently.
H
H
And
so
it's
not
necessarily
do
we
reduce
the
number
of
beds
we
have,
but
how
do
we
use
them
differently
and
I'll
just
note
as
well,
that
you
know
creating
exits.
Permanent
solutions
is
also
it's
not
just
about
building
new
housing.
It's
about
utilizing
other
tools
in
your
community
like
a
very
robust
landlord
outreach
and
engagement
strategy.
H
I
think
I
want
to
emphasize,
because
I
have
talked
a
lot
about
length
of
stay
in
that
it
is
an
important
metric
and
it's
a
really
good
tool
to
have
a
quality
assurance
process
in
your
system,
especially
to
check
on
your
data
quality.
But
it
it
can't
be
a
stand-alone
metric,
because
people
staying
in
your
shelter
system
for
shorter
periods
of
time
does
not
necessarily
mean
that
you
have
a
better
shelter
system.
H
So
people
could
be
leaving
sooner
because
there's
arbitrary
limits
of
stay
or
they're
being
encouraged
to,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
we
know
where
they're
going
or
they're
being
connected
to
permanent
solutions,
or
in
some
cases
it
could
mean
that
they
there
are
either
real
or
perceived
barriers
in
place
that
people
are
staying
for
shorter
periods
of
time.
So
you
can't
take
that
metric
in
alone
in
isolation.
What
you
really
need
to
think
about
is,
are
people
getting
housed
and
are
they
staying
housed
so
incorporating
that
into
your
data?
H
Tracking
and
data
quality
systems
is
going
to
be
critical
with
your
new
shelters
location
wherever
it
ends
up,
and
I
think
the
other
things
that
you
need
to
measure
here
are
guests.
What
are
the
guest
experience?
So?
Are
people
wanting
to
come
into
shelter
and
once
they're
there
are
they
getting
connected
to
housing?
What
is
that
experience
like
for
them?
H
Do
we
have
an
equitable
system?
Are
the
same
populations
having
the
same
experience
in
our
system?
This
is
a
really
important
metric
to
track
and
then
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
capacity
building
that
has
to
happen
and,
as
we
make
some
shifts
in
our
system
around,
what
does
the
housing
first
shelter
system
really
look
like
what
what
kinds
of
impact
does
that
have
in
our
staff
to
be
serving
a
population?
That's
more
vulnerable
might
be
coming
in
with
more
trauma.
H
How
are
we
caring
for
our
staff?
How
are
we
training
them?
I
really
appreciated
lieutenant
hill
sharing,
how
important
the
training
the
intensive
training
was
for
him
and
his
colleagues,
and
I
think
we
need
to
think
of
that
for
our
shelter
staff,
too
oftentimes
people
working
in
our
shelter
system
have
had
a
lived
experience
of
homelessness
themselves,
and
so
it
can
bring
up
a
lot
of
trauma
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
caring
for
our
staff
throughout
this
process.
H
In
closing,
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
conversation,
a
lot
of
focus
that
this
group
has
to
have
around
where
the
new
shelter
is
located,
and
I
think
that
you
know
I'm
often
asked
like
what's
the
best
kind
of
shelter.
Where
should
we
have
it?
Should
we
have
a
big
warehouse?
Should
we
have
smaller
sites?
H
If
you
have
those
three
things,
I
think
that's
more
important
than
where
the
site
actually
ends
up
and
that's
what
will
determine
whether
or
not
we're
able
to
successfully
move
people
through
our
homeless
system
here
in
boise-
and
I
I've
shared
this
with
rachel
and
so
rachel.
You
can
share
them
with
the
group
but
happy
to
pause
now,
and
you
know
open
up
any
discussion
that
we
need
to
have.
A
A
What
kind
of
impact
is
the
increase
in
housing
prices
in
boise,
going
to
leave
on
average
and
peak
demand
in
boise
shelters?
So
I
would
expand
that
beyond
just
housing
prices,
but
also
rental
vacancies.
The
many
things
that
you
all
are
pretty
intimate
with.
How
is
that
going
to
impact
our
shelter
system.
H
Well
is
the
way
we've
modeled.
It
is
that
it'll
impact
the
growth,
so
the
number
of
people
experiencing
homelessness
coming
into
your
system
and
I
think,
that's
a
little
tricky,
because
people
who
lose
their
housing
because
of
a
housing
crisis
often
don't
end
up
in
the
homeless
system
for
quite
some
time,
if
at
all-
and
so
you
want
to
make
sure
you're
using
other
tools
available
to
you
like
emergency
rental
assistance
for
families
that
are
evicted
or
lose
their
housing
right
away,
our
households.
A
And
this
is
a
great
tag
end
to
some
of
that
landlord
stuff.
This
question
is
peak.
Demand
is
mostly
families,
and
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
from
that
is.
The
peak
demand
gap
is
mostly
families.
If
we
find
300
family
units
as
is
being
sought,
how
will
that
affect
demand.
H
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
that
I
think
it's
gonna
have
to
be
sort
of
a
feedback
loop
in
terms
of
we
need
to
know
better
like
what
is
the
inflow
of
families
every
year.
But
I
think
it
could
potentially
have
the
impact
that
you
might
need
less
beds
over
time
in
your
shelter
system
for
families
and
that's
something
that's
going
to
happen
over
a
multi-year
process
as
you're
able
to
house
300
families.
H
But
I
think
you
know
the
shelter
system
is
going
to
always
have
to
have
a
capacity
for
families
who
are
kind
of
in
that
really
low
income
range,
that
that
could
experience
a
housing
crisis
and
need
to
be
somewhere
safe.
But
I
think
that
you
do
have
the
potential,
especially
with
adding
the
kinds
of
resources
you're,
adding
now
for
families
to
impact
the
demand
on
shelter,
for
families
by
creating
more
permanent
housing.
H
H
I
don't
think
the
overlap
is
very
high,
because
young
people
experiencing
homelessness
often
will
not
go
to
adult
shelters
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
mostly
because
they're
not
very
safe
environments
for
them,
and
so
they'll
do
things
more.
Like
stay
doubled
up,
triple
club
quadrupled
up.
You
know.
People
use
the
term
couch
surfing
a
lot
for
youth
and
young
adults.
They
can
sometimes
stay
in
really
unsafe
situations
where
they
might
be
victims
of
things
like
human
trafficking,
and
so
we
want
to
think
about.
H
A
D
A
I
think
we
can
thank
annie,
and
I
would
just
caveat
if
there
are
additional
questions
that
come
up
for
you
later.
We
can
work
with
annie
to
get
those
answered.
The
role
that
they
play
is
really
an
expert
in
the
field,
not
in
boise
but
nationally.
So
I
don't
know
where
you're
calling
in
from
today
annie
because
I
know
you're
out
of
office,
but
I
don't
know
if
you're
out
of
state
where
you
currently
reside
but
annie
will
continue
to
work
with
us,
and
this
presentation
was
important
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
A
One.
This
is
just
data
and
you
will
hear
from
interfaith
sanctuary
their
relationship
with
the
information
about
this
next
week
as
they
prepare,
and
we
can
answer
a
bunch
of
different
questions.
I
I
think
that's
why
we're
seeing
like
a
little
bit
of
a
lack
of
questions
here
is
because
they're
more
about
like
well.
A
How
does
that
relate
to
interface
sanctuary
and
how
they
play
a
role
in
the
overall
shelter
system
as
the
low
barrier,
shelter
for
the
city
of
boise
or
within
the
city
of
boise,
but
annie
also
straddles
the
line
between
the
work
of
really
deeply
understanding,
shelter
and
being
a
really
deep
advocate
for
permanent
supportive
housing.
So
I
think
many
of
the
things
that
you
all
are
pointing
to
as
solutions
are
that
we're
hearing
from
the
community
as
solutions
for
permanent
supportive
housing.
A
If
you
want
to
send
those
questions,
we'll
work
with
annie
to
get
those
answered,
because
I
know
that
you
all
have
a
lot
of
interest
there
and
we
asked
annie
not
to
cover
that
today,
because
the
focus
of
this
is
on
again
the
solution
for
emergency
shelter,
and
it
has
some
correlations
to
our
permanent
supportive
housing
work.
But
they're
connected
yet
separate
anything
else.
You
want
to
say
before
you
head
out,
annie.
H
Yeah,
so
just
a
couple
things,
thank
you
casey!
I
so
you
all
know,
because
I
did
introduce
myself,
but
I
am
physically
based
in
denver,
colorado
and
so
our
city,
my
home
community,
is
dealing
with
a
lot
of
the
same
similar,
quite
similar
issues.
H
That
boise
is
dealing
with
now
around
the
affordability
crisis
and
a
pretty
big
kind
of
explosion
of
our
unsheltered
homeless,
population
and
so
shelter
does
play
a
critical
role
in
that
in
addressing
that
and
then
and
I'm
actually,
I'm
joining
you
all
from
northern
wisconsin
today,
where
I'm
taking
a
little
vacation
with
my
family,
so
it
was
lovely
to
be
somewhere
where
it's
a
little
cooler.
But
the
other
thing
I
will
say
is
that
part
our
modeling.
H
You
know
what
I
shared
with
you
from
our
modeling
is
also
a
more
dynamic
tool
that
we
have
in
excel,
that
we
will
share
with
the
city
and
the
city
will
own
after
this
process,
and
so,
as
we
have
updated
assumptions
around
data
or
updated,
we
have
better
data
quality
around
exits
and
length
of
stay.
We
can
continue
to
update
that
and
it
will
inform
our
assumptions
around
the
number
of
beds.
H
We
need
for
what
type
of
population
which
the
best
cities
in
the
country
that
I've
seen
you
know
really
be
able
to
be
responsive
in
their
shelter
need,
are
constantly
revisiting
their
data
and
being
able
to
respond
to
the
demand
that
they're,
seeing
on
a
monthly
or
quarterly
basis,
and
so
what's
exciting
about
starting.
This
conversation
is
that
it
will
leave
us
and
the
city
with
the
tools
to
you
know,
make
system
decisions
more
in
real
time,
rather
than
looking
at
old
hmis
data
to
to
make
some
assumptions.
A
Yes,
that's
absolutely
right
and
only
caveat.
There
is
it'll
be
owned
by
the
city,
but
it'll
be
within
our
path
home,
so
our
shelter
leadership
will
be
directly
empowered
and
in
charge
of
really
running
data.
Modeling
moving
here
forward,
based
on
this
incredible
tool
that
was
spurred
by
this
community
engagement
opportunity
and
will
be
part
of
our
like
really
complex
system
response.
So
thank
you
so
much
annie.
A
Sorry
and
then
we
are
going
to
do
a
wrap
up
activity
so
for
this,
I'm
going
to
put
on
to
this
white
board
a
dividing
line
and
we're
going
to
have
you
on
the
sticky
notes
that
you
have
we're
going
to
have
you
answer
two
questions
that
I
left
over
there
so
hold
on.
A
So
on
one
side
and
that
side
is
going
to
be
the
far
side
over
here.
The
question
that
we're
going
to
have
you
answer
is:
we've
done.
These
four
weeks
are
really
about
our
level
setting.
So
what
do
we
understand
about
shelter
as
a
component
of
homeless
system
response
and
specifically
shelter
as
it's
informed
by
best
practices
nationally
and
shelter,
as
it
is
informed
by
the
data
that
we
have
about
shelter,
utilization
and
peak
demand?
A
So
you
all
now
should
be
like
farther
along,
hopefully
than
you
were
when
you
stepped
in.
I
know
I
feel
farther
along
the
question
that
we
have
is
about
that
learning,
because
we're
going
to
jump
next
week
to
really
focusing
on
what
comes
next.
So
that's
where
we'll
hear
from
interfaith
sanctuary,
we'll
then
do
some
work
around
citing
and
then
we
will
move
towards
an
exciting
workshop.
A
So
the
idea
here
is
to
challenge
yourself.
The
point
of
learning
is
to
take
the
things
that
we're
learning
and
adapt
the
way
that
we're
thinking
about
it.
You've
heard
from
some
of
the
most
predominant
experts
locally
and
nationally,
what's
challenged
you
to
change
any
component
of
your
thinking
as
it
comes
to
homelessness,
and
I
would
say,
challenge
yourself
to
come
up
with
that,
because
they
know
stephanie's
been
in
this
system
for
10
years,
and
I
can
already
see
her
furiously
writing,
because
we're
in
a
system
of
learning
together
on
the
other
side.
A
What
is
the
most
interesting
thing
that
you
learn
to
take
with
you
as
we
move
forward
towards
making
your
recommendation
so
on
one
side,
what
have
you
learned
and
how
did
that
shift
some
type
of
understanding
that
you
have,
if
at
all
and
then
the
other
side?
What
is
a
piece
of
information
that,
like
as
a
task
force,
member
we're
headed
towards
decision
making?
What's
the
piece
of
information
that
you're
holding
is
like?
A
E
A
A
And,
as
folks
are
finishing
up,
if
you
want
either
now
or
after
today,
you
can
walk
up,
and
this
is
a
good
opportunity
also
for
you
to
do
a
scan
of
one
another.
What
are
the
things
that
you
are
seeing,
your
other
participants
learning
and
how
is
it,
helping
them
increase
their
understanding
of
our
homelessness
system
response
in
boise
and
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
folks
are
hoping
to
implement?
This
is
kind
of
like
the
beginning
of
your
strategy
board
as
a
collective,
that's
moving
towards
the
decision.
A
So
if
you
haven't
done
that
yet
please
jump
up
here
and
then
again
we'll
offer
if
anyone
wants
to
share.
Let's
start,
maybe
with
the
shifting,
so
is
there
anybody
that
wants
to
share
something
about?
What's
something
that
you've
learned
and
how
has
that
shifted?
Any
component
of
your
understanding
we'll
go
over
to
penny.
J
Yeah,
I
think
I
learned
today
how
really
the
whole
shelter
system
needs
a
redesign
and
just
that
we're
not
addressing
the
needs
of
families,
and
I
think
that's
a
huge
key
point
that
needs
to
change
in
how
we
treat
unhoused
people
in
boise.
C
The
thing
that
keeps
coming
up
for
me
is
the
concept
of
low
barriers
and
we've
talked
about
it,
a
lot
of
the
the
need
for
low
barriers
to
enter
into
shelters.
But
I,
as
we
have
more
discussions,
I
keep
thinking
about
of
low
barriers
everywhere
and
we
don't
always
know
what
those
barriers
are.
But
we've
got
to
find
a
way
to
have
there
be
less
of
them,
because
that
kind
of
keeps
resonating
with
me.
But
I
feel
like
it's
come
up
several
times
and
is
top
of
mind
for
me.
K
Hi,
I'm
serena.
I
learned
today
that
we
really
don't
have
a
true
idea
of
the
homeless
population
here
in
our
town
and
that
there's
probably
a
huge.
I
know
personally
from
my
personal
experience
that
I
was
not
included
in
any
of
that
data
and
I
was
homeless
for
several
years
and
did
not
have
access
to
a
lot
of
resources
that
I
wasn't
aware
of.
So
that
was
something
I
learned
that
I
was
part
of
a
big
population
that
is
not
being
counted
for
in
our
numbers.
A
J
A
L
So
this
is
kind
of
related,
but
I
would
say
that
my
biggest
shift
has
been.
I
actually
have
run
shelters
in
residential
communities
for
eight
years
in
a
previous
life
and
there
weren't
really
any
issues
with
neighbors.
So
I
kind
of
came
into
this
being
like
okay,
like
we
can
fix
this
really
easily
because
it's
not
actually
going
to
be
a
problem.
L
But
for
me
the
shift
has
been
just
recognizing
that,
like
when
we
are
making
a
decision,
this
big,
it's
so
important
to
hear
from
all
of
the
people
involved
and
for
everybody
to
have
a
voice
to
really
address
concerns,
because
people
have
legitimate
concerns
that
we
should
be
able
to
come
up
with
solutions
to.
But
it's
really
important
for
that
for
there
to
be
a
space
for
that.
So
that
was
probably
my
biggest
shift.
A
Great
thanks
so
much
for
representing
change.
Y'all
and
anyone
want
to
speak
to
implementation.
We've
learned
a
ton
of
things.
Anyone
want
to
speak
to
what
they
threw
up
here,
that
they're
very
excited
about
and
how
it
relates
potentially
to
what
we
learned
in
what
week
right.
So,
if
we're
implementing
something
we've
learned,
when
did
we
learn
it?
What
does
it
look
like.
E
Of
community
outreach
input
from
various
citizens
is
that
this
task
force
is,
I
think,
moving
well
toward
a
solution.
I
think
the
people
here
are
going
to
be
broadly
supportive
of
that
solution,
but
I'm
learning
that
the
community
at
large
is
not
and
that
we
still
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
broaden
the
understanding
in
the
community,
so
that
whatever
solution
we
do
implement
is
one
that
is
broadly
adopted
and
supported
by
the
community
and
not
just
one
that
this
group
thinks
is
a
good
one.
E
M
I
think
the
through
line
that
keeps
resonating
with
me
is
around
a
commitment
in
the
housing
first
model:
a
commitment
to
permanent
solutions
that
this
this
idea
of
an
integrated
system
that
is
full
of
community
partnerships,
where
that
is
the
ultimate
goal
that
everyone
is
focused
on
and
the
other
little
piece
of
that
that
I
really
heard
today-
and
I
think
I
just
want
to
echo-
is
that
the
value
of
data
and
the
need
for
deep,
robust
data
that
allows.
You
then
allows
us,
then
to
be
more
nimble
and
flexible
in
our
approaches
over
time.
A
D
K
I
just
wanted
to
share
something
exciting.
I
just
I've
already
been
having
some
thoughts
and
ideas
of
other
shelters
that
I'm
familiar
with
and
how
we
can
implement
that
here,
and
I
think
one
of
the
other
things
was
that
I'm
just
really
excited
to
get
started
on
actually
putting
together
a
plan
and
seeing
what
that
comes
to
how
it
comes
to
fruition
with
all
of
us,
and
I'm
just
really
excited
about
the
ideas
that
I
have
and
being
able
to
share
them
with
you
guys
once
we
get
to
that
point.
So.
A
Perfect
great
segue
for
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
So
with
that,
I
just
want
to
remind
folks
that
we're
going
to
take
these
and
document
them
as
we
have
with
everything,
because
transparency
has
been
key
and
public
engagement
is
what
this
process
has
been
and
will
continue
to
be.
That
next
week,
task
force.
Members
are
going
to
hear
from
interfaith
sanctuary
on
their
current
operation
plans
and
the
plan
for
the
new
facility.
A
So
we're
going
to
hear
from
them-
and
it's
going
to
be-
I
think,
illuminating
and
helpful
for
everyone
and
then
with
that
the
just
couple
of
reminders,
if
you
are
on
the
list
of
folks
who
have
not
yet
signed
the
partner
commitment,
please
do
that
by
the
end
of
today
and
then
otherwise,
we'll
we'll
follow
up
with
y'all
individually.
A
A
And
then
we
will
continue
just
as
a
note
for
everyone
to
hold
an
additional
30
minutes
of
facilitated
space
with
rachel
and
I,
after
every
single
one
of
these
sessions,
moving
forward,
there's
just
a
hunger
for
more
space
to
be
in
direct
conversation.
So
any
major
questions
are
we
good
to
dismiss
for
today?