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A
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here
at
the
final
shelter,
better
task
force
meeting,
I'm
jen
schneider,
professor
in
the
school
of
public
service
at
boise
state.
I'm
your
facilitator,
just
a
quick
review
of
what
you
can
expect
for
today.
It
is
our
second
workshop
day
around
final
recommendations,
so
we're
going
to
be
seeing
three
presentations,
one
from
each
subcommittee
about
the
recommendations
that
were
brainstormed
and
then,
as
a
group
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
feedback
on
those
recommendations.
A
So
I'll
give
a
little
more
information
about
that
in
just
a
moment,
but
a
couple
of
other
sort
of
housekeeping
announcements.
One
is
that
on
your
tables,
you
should
have
a
typewritten
letter.
This
is
from
serena
hinojosa
who's
joining
us
online
she's,
a
task
force,
member
someone
with
lived
experience
with
homelessness,
and
she
wanted
to
share
her
story
with
all
of
you,
and
so
I
hope
that,
when
we're
done
with
our
business
today,
you
will
take
this
letter
with
you
and
please
read
it.
A
I
also
wanted
to
just
make
a
note
that,
while
our
task
force
chair
courtney,
washburn
and
council
president
elaine
clegg
are
here,
they
are
not
going
to
actually,
I
believe,
participate
in
the
discussion
today,
and
that
is
because
they
are
non-voting
members.
They
have
decision-making
role.
A
So
thank
you
for
being
here
but
understand
if
they
are
quiet
that
it's
not
because
they
are
not
engaged.
A
Okay,
so
here
is
what's
going
to
happen,
I'm
just
going
to
turn
it
over.
Each
subcommittee
has
a
leader
that
you
chose
they're,
going
to
present
some
slides
containing
draft
recommendations,
we'll
have
a
discussion
after
each
presentation
and
two
questions.
I
would
encourage
you
to
consider
as
you're
preparing
your
feedback
one.
Is
there
general
consensus
around
the
task
force
it
does
for
the
recommendation?
B
Clearly,
that's
me
hi
everyone
good
not
quite
afternoon,
but
we're
close
so
tom
and
I
are
going
to
talk
about
a
shelter,
better
recommendations
and
things
we
talked
about
as
our
group
in
our
group
last
week.
So
you
know
the
first
part
of
this
process.
We
spent
many
weeks
talking
about
shelter,
shelter,
better
and
low
barrier
shelters,
and
I
think
that's
pretty
much
something
that
we
found
consensus
even
outside
of
our
group,
that
that
is
a
method
and
a
system
we
should
support.
B
So
we
really
felt
like
there's
a
need
in
our
community
to
continue
and
to
have
a
low
barrier,
shelter
and
then
kind
of
going
through
what
that
means,
that
the
requirements
for
entry
are
limited
or
minimal
that
anyone
is
allowed
in.
That
wants
to
come
in
and
have
shelter,
encouraging
guests
to
seek
resources
by
eliminating
obstacles,
welcoming
guests
as
they
are,
and
having
clear
and
simple
behavioral
expectations
for
guests
that
their
limited
duration
and
that
the
end
goal
is
to
promote
moving
into
more
permanent
housing.
C
C
You
know
eight
weeks,
so
we're
not
going
to
go
into
a
ton
of
detail,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
there's
access
to
services
at
like
emergency
food,
they're,
supportive
services
as
well
like
life
skills,
financial
health,
things
of
that
sort.
So
we
think
this
is
extremely
important
going
forward
to
recommend
from
this
task
force.
C
Kind
of
getting
a
little
bit
more
into
things
that
which
we
haven't
discussed
here
in
detail.
One
thing
that
we
thought
our
group
thought
was
some
sort
of
vetting
agency
that
can
vet
shelters
before
they
go
public.
You
know
so,
basically
an
agency
that
says
we
say:
hey
we're
going
to
build
this.
Here's
some
here's
our
ideas
and
that
agency
or
that
group
or
I
don't
know
agency-
is
the
right
word,
but
they
can
go
through
and
say:
okay,
here's
a
here's!
What
we're
looking
for?
Here's?
C
They
can
review
the
proposed
shelter,
affordable
and
affordable
housing
projects
as
well
before
they
move
into
the
the
cup
process
and
that
and
they
can
ensure
that
those
shelters
or
housing
projects
kind
of
meet
minimum
criteria
for
location
the
size
population
that
they
serve.
The
neighborhood
neighborhood
outreach,
that's
going
to
happen
and
they're
provided
with
service
what
kind
of
services
they
provide.
B
So
one
of
the
things
we
were
talking
about
as
a
group
last
week
and
kind
of
brainstorming
is
all
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
and
not
talked
about
around
conditional
use
permits
and
from
what
we
heard
in
terms
of
zoning.
There
aren't
a
lot
of
spaces
where
conditional
use
permits
permits
which
are
required
for
the
shelter
are
have
available
space
in
the
city.
B
So
one
of
the
things
just
in
looking
at
conditional
use
permits
specifically,
is
how
often
is
the
permit
revisited,
are
the
conditions
that
must
be
maintained,
reviewed
by
planning
and
zoning
and
at
what
frequency
and
then
what
or
who
is
enforcing
the
outlines
of
the
conditional
use
permit
and
what
happens
if
the
terms
aren't
followed
just
questions
that
we
think
in
looking
it
up.
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
information
available
on
how,
after
the
permit,
is
accepted
and
completed.
What
happens
next,
so
just
information
that
we
thought
might
be
helpful.
C
So
next
we
talked
about
some
possible
and
innovative
practices
that
we
can
look
at
beyond
just
some
the
shelter
model-
and
these
are
just
a
few
of
the
ideas
that
we
have
there's.
Clearly
many
more
innovative
things
you
can
do
these
three
I
came
up
with
or
I
didn't
come
up
with
them.
I,
these
are
kind
of
my
head.
C
Mostly
I
lived
in
eugene
before
I
lived
here
and
you
know:
eugene's
got
a
has
a
huge
problem
with
homelessness,
a
lot
of
people
who
need
shelter,
and
I
for
many
different
reasons,
but
I
was
googling
it
looking
it
up
over
the
weekend.
I
realized
they're
doing
all
these
pretty
neat
innovative
things
there
and
then
I
realized
they
have
the
highest
homeless
percentage
of
people
in
the
country.
It's
most
it's
a
city
with
the
most
homeless,
the
biggest
homeless
population
per
capita.
C
So
so
there's
three
innovative
practices,
and
each
of
these
slides
will
be
about
that
innovative
ideas.
C
Two
of
the
slides
will
be
about
that
one
is
a
group
called
cahoots,
one
is
residential
work
programs
and
one
is
a
spot
called
opportunity.
Village
and
then
also
I
put
some
apps
on
there
too,
there's
a
number
of
different
apps
that
homeless
people
can
use
to
find
shelter
and
find
jobs,
and
things
like
that,
so
go
back,
go
back
to
the
one
that
was
yeah.
C
So
one
thing
I
don't
wanna
extra
slide
on
here
about
is
residential
work
programs,
but
there's
models
for
residential
work
programs
all
around
the
country
where
people
go
out.
I
mean
it's
kind
of
like
a
civilian
conservation
corps
back
in
the
back
in
the
1930s,
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
people
where
they
live
somewhere
and
they
work
somewhere
and
while
they're
doing
that,
they
can
go
through
the
different
counseling.
They
need
to
get
id's
things
of
that
sort
and
then
learn
some
of
the
critical
work
skills
they
might
need
going
forward.
C
So
next,
these
are
some
photos
of
a
spot
called
opportunity,
village
and
opportunity.
Village
is
basically
it's
a
little.
C
It's
a
couple
acres
of
land
in
eugene,
which
is
filled
with
tiny
houses,
tiny
houses
where
these
tiny
homes
were
built
in
partnership
with
a
number
of
different
architecture,
firms
and
building
organization
builders,
mostly
through
donations,
and
they
house
about,
I
think,
there's
like
20
or
so
25
of
them
in
this
one
location
and
they
are
free
housing,
but
they
are
for
folks
who
are
kind
of
going
from
the
next
step
from
they've
already
gone
through
a
shelter
they're
in
the
process
of
finding
a
forever
home
releasing
apartment.
C
I
think-
and
this
is
kind
of
the
in
between
step-
it's
had
great
success
and
it's
it's
a
really
neat
program
so,
and
you
can
see
these
are
pretty
easy
to
be
relatively
easy
to
build
they're
inexpensive.
C
C
Cahoots
is
a
organization
also
based
in
eugene,
that
is,
it
stands
for
crisis
assistance,
helping
out
on
the
streets,
and
basically
it
is
an
organization
that,
when
someone
is
having
trauma
basically,
if
it's,
if
someone
is
having
some
sort
of
personal
emergency,
I
guess
instead
of
the
police
showing
up,
you
know
an
armed
police
force
showing
up
it's
folks
who
show
up
who
are
they
basically
they're
they're
trained
for
de-escalation,
and
I
think
it's
usually
an
emt
or
a
nurse
and
then
a
second
person
who
has
who's
like
a
social
worker
or
has
some
some
sort
of
social
working
skills,
they're,
not
law
enforcement
officers
and
they
don't
carry
any
sort
of
weapons.
C
What
it's
it's:
a
non-profit
organization
funded
through
donations
through
grants,
things
of
that
sort.
What's
pretty
interesting,
is
in
the
city
of
eugene.
C
17
of
police
calls
actually
go
to
cahoots
city
of
eugene's
police
force
has
a
80
million
dollar
budget,
but
cahoots's
total
annual
budget
is
1.8
million.
I
think
1.9
million.
C
C
One
thing
that
you
know
this
isn't
necessarily
like
an
inner
faith.
Sanctuary
could
be
do
it
should
be
doing
this.
This
is
something
the
city
should
probably
take
on
in
partnership
with
our
path
home.
The
police
department,
things
of
that
sort,
but
it
is,
it
is
a
kind
of
side
that
would
help
in
this
type
of
situation.
B
B
That
this
is
a
complicated
process.
This
involves
really
all
three
of
the
areas
and
even
more
of
the
groups
that
got
together
last
week.
B
B
I'll
talk
about
you
know
our
community
criteria
that
seemed
really
important
to
us.
Throughout
this
process
we
talked
about
having
outreach
ambassadors
in
the
neighborhoods,
just
even
tom,
and
I
know
a
lot
of
people
in
our
neighborhood
and
now
have
become
really
well
informed
on
this
topic
specifically,
and
I
think,
having
people
that
are
able
to
talk
to
neighbors
early
on
in
the
process
and
be
more
well
informed
would
be
really
useful.
B
Oh,
these
slides
are
a
little
different
than
the
ones
I
have,
but
that's,
okay,
yeah
so
identify
and
engage
people
who
are
in
the
neighborhood
and
talk
with
them
about
what
their
perceived
impacts
are
talk
with
them
about
the
information
that
we
actually
have
about,
how
a
shelter
or
any
sort
of
any
sort
of
yeah
shelter
in
their
neighborhood
will
actually
impact
or
not
impact
one
of
the
really
cool
things
about
doing
that
is
not
only
does
it
include
the
outreach
ambassadors,
but
it's
a
really
good
way
to
get
community
buy-in
at
an
earlier
time,
and
it
tends
to
be,
as
we've
been
looking
at
shelter,
better
models,
an
important
step
in
the
process.
E
C
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
kind
of
the
point
of
the
outreach
ambassadors
type
thing
might
be.
If
you
look
back
at
this
process
in
the
beginning-
and
we've
mentioned
this
before,
if
interfaith
sanctuary
were
to
start
over
again,
you
know
november,
they
would
definitely
do
things
differently
and
at
the
time
we
don't
know
we.
You
know
you
couldn't
be
hard
to
say
back
in
november
october,
whenever
that
was
where
we'd
be
in
august
of
2021.
C
But
one
thing
is:
is
kind
of
blanking
the
neighborhoods
more
in
with
informed
people
to
go
door-to-door
to
talk
to
folks
about
what
this
is,
because
there's
a
lot
of
misinformation
as
annie
said.
It's
also
and
a
lot,
that's
just
kind
of
a
lot
of
concern
as
well,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
hear
the
concern
of
the
neighbors
right
off
the
bat
from
the
beginning.
So
we
can
start
working
or
so
the
organization
can
start
working
with
the
neighbors
to
figure
out
how
to
alleviate
those.
So
next
year,.
C
So
next
criteria
criteria
the
for
is
a
good
neighborhood,
agree,
good
neighborhood
agreement.
And
what
and-
and
I
think
this
is
I'm
gonna
guess
a
different
group
might
talk
about
this
more
in
detail,
but
this
is
something
that
I
think
interfaith
sanctuary
already
does,
and
it's
a
way
to
it's
a
I
think
it's
an
actual
legal
binding
agreement
between
the
neighborhoods
and
the
innovate
sanctuary
to
ensure
that
there's
accountability
amongst
all
the
fears
that
happen
with
those
neighbors.
C
B
Yeah,
I
think
it's
just
important
to
note
that
this
is
a
step.
Interfaith
is
already
willing
to
take
that.
This
is
something
they've
done
before
and
in
talking
in
our
group
and
with
jody
specifically,
it
is
a
contract
to
hold
ifs
accountable
for
continuing
for
becoming
and
continuing
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
I
think
a
lot
of
what
we've
heard
is
fear
about
that
not
being
the
case,
and
so
just
recognizing
that
they're
they're
taking
steps
and
they're
willing
to
create
a
contract
with
our
neighborhood
to
make
sure
that
the.
B
To
make
sure
that
they're
holding
up
their
end
of
the
bargain,
you
know
they
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
That's
the
intention,
and
so
just
having
this
in
place.
E
C
C
Go
ahead,
we
had
one
more
slide
and
it
was
a
picture
of
an
elephant
because
there's
an
elephant
in
the
room,
but
then
I
was
kind
of
thinking
about
it.
I
think
it's
more
like
the
bull
in
the
china
shop
and
it's
basically,
you
know
this
whole
process.
C
We
got
together
what
eight
weeks
ago,
two
months
ago
and
I
think
kind
of
for
us,
the
big
the
big
reveal
at
the
end,
was
going
to
be
which
what
are
the
alternative
sites
and
when
it
comes
down
to
is
we
had
a
list
of
what
60-ish
sites
that
then
we
had
some
certain
criteria
costs
they
had
to
be
correctly
zoned
and
had
to
be
available.
C
There
might
have
been
some
more
criteria,
I
know,
but
when
it
came
down
to
it,
we
looked
at
all
those
different
sites
around
the
city,
and
there
was
only
one
that
met
all
the
criteria
which
is
kind
of
mind-blowing,
and
it's
interesting
that
it
clearly
interfaith
sanctuary
knew
that
and
they
did
their
research
before
you
know
a
long
time
ago.
So
we
need
to
as
the
task
force.
We
need
to
understand
that
there
isn't
a
whole
lot
of
legal
room
with
that.
C
So
and
it's
it's
unfortunate,
I
think
we
were
all
excited
and
we
were
looking
forward
to
trying
to
find
these
different
spots,
but
they
don't
exist
at
least
not
right
now
and
the
kind
of
second
to
me
at
least
a
second
kind
of
elf
in
the
rumor
bull
in
china
shop
is
the
zoning
regulations
within
the
city.
Part
of
the
reason,
actually,
the
main
reason
why
there's
only
one
location
is
zoning,
the
city's
owning
laws.
You
can't
put
a
homeless
shelter
on
any
on
any
sort
of
residential
land.
C
Anything
zoned
residential
has
to
be
something
zoned
commercial
and
then
you
have
to
get
a
cop,
a
conditional
use
permit
to
do
it,
and
so,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
the
zoning
rules.
In
addition
to
that,
you,
you
can't
in
idaho,
you're
in
boise
rules
prohibit
things
like
some
some
sorts
of
it.
C
C
B
I
think
one
of
the
unfortunate
parts
about
this
as
we
look
at
shelter
better
is
this
was
information
that
maybe
wasn't
available
before,
but
if
it
had
been
we'd
be
having
a
different
conversation
about
this
whole
process,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
onerous
was
put
on
ifs
and
I
think
that's
unfortunate,
given
that
having
the
information
about
actual
available
spots,
that
this
is
the
spot.
B
So
I
guess
our
ultimate
hope.
The
other
thing
we
were
kind
of
talking
about
is
that
I
think
this
was
a
new
process
and
one
of
the
great
things
about
trying
something
new
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
opportunities
through
learning
through
missteps
and
through
positive
steps,
and
so
our
hope
is
just
that
this
will
be
a
guide
and
informative
in
the
future
as
needed
or
for
helping
find
locations
for
additional
shelters.
A
A
All
right
sounds
good,
so
I
added
one
more,
maybe
guiding
questions,
and
these
are
just
suggestions.
But
as
I
was
listening,
it
also
occurred
to
me
that
there
might
be
things
that
you
feel
like
are
missing
in
a
particular
section,
and
you
should
feel
free
to
bring
that
up
as
well,
based
on
what
you've
learned
on
the
task
force.
A
So
the
one
thing
I
would
just
say
is
that
I
saw
a
number
of
recommendations
in
that
presentation
and
then
I
saw
some
things
that
didn't
look
like
recommendations,
and
so
maybe
there
will
be
some
questions
around
that.
But
we,
I
do
want
to
open
things
up
to
the
group
for
this
subcommittee
on
best
practices
in
terms
of
what
you'd
like
to
see
included
in
the
final
report,
and
just
if
you
speak
a
reminder
to
please
introduce
yourself
for
folks
who
are
watching
online.
G
So
I
have
two
comments
and
one
would
be.
I
would
still
push
back
on
that.
This
is
the
spot
narrative
a
little
of
the
four
of
the
six
pure
cities.
I
think
four
of
them
didn't
have
parcel
sizes
between
one
and
three
acres.
For
instance.
I
think
that
you
could
still
go
more
deeply
in
that
land
scan
before
just
writing
off
any
other
parcel
in
boise,
oh
and
secondly,
one
potential
best
practice
that
agency
specifically
addressed
there
would
be
a
heavier
reliance
on
the
coordinated
entry
system.
G
I
think
that
having
a
shelter
where
all
of
the
bed
availability
was
managed
through
coordinated
entry
rather
than
on-site
walk-up,
would
alleviate
concerns
about
overflow
and
inability
to
accommodate
overflow
and
that
spreading
out
into
a
neighborhood
when
there
is
not
enough
space
for
people.
F
Hello
charity.
Nelson.
There
was
a
bullet
point
in
the
presentation
that
said
limited
duration
with
transition
to
permanent
solutions.
I
think
what
you
meant
is
that's
the
goal
and
I'm
in
total
agreement,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it
doesn't
come
off
that
there
is
a
limited
duration.
F
I
believe
that
it
functions
today
that,
of
course,
the
goal
is
that
we
move
people
to
permanent
solutions,
but
there's
also
not
a
point
in
which
we're
going
to
kick
them
back
out
to
the
streets.
So
I
would.
I
would
recommend
that
there's
a
a
change
to
that
to
indicate
that
if
the
group
is
in
agreement.
B
Yeah
I'll
say
that
that
we
maybe
weren't
clear
enough
in
outlining
the
bullet
point,
but
that
was
the
general
understanding
of
what
we
meant.
Yeah.
I
That
was
one
of
my
points
as
well.
This
is
jeanette
curtis,
I'm
the
director
of
the
street
outreach
team,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
very
careful
about
the
limited
limitations
of
time
in
this
housing
market,
it's
so
incredibly
difficult
to
get
people
housed,
so
that
would
put
a
real
barrier
on
the
homeless
service
agencies.
I
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
bringing
up
cahoots.
They
are
a
role
model
they've
been
around
for
a
really
long
time
and
they've
got
some
great
outcomes,
and
so
we
have
been
looking
at
them
for
a
while.
Boise
does
have
a
system
put
together.
That's
similar,
though
we're
always
looking
for
you
know.
How
can
we
improve
that,
but
we
have
a
partnership
with
the
boise
police
office
behavioral
health
units.
I
They
have
two
units
that
go
out
with
mental
health,
counselors
and
officers,
and
then
department
of
health
and
welfare
mobile
crisis
unit,
and
the
outreach
team
is
part
of
that
partnership
as
well.
So
we
do
have
something
like
that
and
I
think
that's
an
important
recommendation
to
continue
to
put
forward
and
what
a
shelter
system
looks
like
in
our
area
that
we
have
those
response.
Teams
active
and
ready
to
launch.
A
So
this
is
where
I
need
help
and
my
city
partners
might
need
help
in
terms
of
what
does
that
recommendation.
Look
like
like
this
group
hasn't
studied
cahoots,
but
there
is
a
similar
model
working
in
boise.
So
is
the
recommendation
simply
to
continue
investing
in
that
to
build
it
out?
What
feels
good?
I.
I
Think
both
of
those
things
and
we
in
our
community
group
had
a
similar
recommendation
about
proactive
and
responsive.
I
can't
remember
what
we
what
we
said
exactly,
but
like
safety
response
for
people
having
mental
health
crises
for
neighbors.
Having
concerns
that
we
have
like
a
re,
a
really
strong
system,
that's
in
place
for
wherever
we
have
shelters,
built.
C
J
C
I
guess
my
I
guess
a
recommendation
would
be
from
our
group
would
be
to
continue
continue
that
program,
but
look
at
different
ways
of
doing
it.
So
we
can
get
further
away
from
having
police
officers
with
with
the
while
doing
the
welfare
checks
and
all
that
things
of
that
sort.
I
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
data
that
we've
collected
for
reasons
why
people
don't
access
shelter
and
sometimes
it's
because
it
is
crowded
and
chaotic
and
that
can
exacerbate
mental
health
symptoms.
But
we
also
talked
about
partners,
pets,
possession
and
parking.
So
partners
like
not
separating
families,
which
we
have
in
interfaith
sanctuary
and
as
we
expand
shelter,
we
would
want
to
continue
to
make
sure
that
was
low
barrier.
A
Thank
you,
so
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
the
cahoots
discussion,
so
this
is
one
of
those
areas
where,
as
a
facilitator,
I
just
think
we're
going
to
have
to
you'll
have
to
pay
attention
to
the
language,
because
this
group
hasn't
studied
cahoots
specifically,
and
so
I
could
see
that
you
could
make
a
broad
recommendation
about
improving
behavioral
health
unit
access
training,
and
then
you
could
say
something
along
the
lines
of,
and
perhaps
programs
like
cahoots
could
serve
as
a
model
as
opposed
to.
We
should
do
cahoots
right.
A
H
A
You'll
give
us
bullet
points.
The
city
will
write
it
up.
You'll
have
a
chance
to
review
what
they
write,
but
I
just
wanted.
I
didn't
want
to
be
anybody
to
be
surprised.
If
you
see
that
change,
yeah,
okay,
okay,
was
there
another
hand
before
sarah,
okay,
yes,
stephanie.
H
H
For
those
of
you
who
aren't
familiar,
we
have
an
amazing
group
of
very
talented
professionals
in
the
field
that
make
up
our
path
home
so
b
represents
people
fleeing
domestic
violence.
We
have
the
veterans
administration,
we
have
the
boise
city,
ada
county
housing
authority.
We
have
developers
in
that
group.
Catch
obviously
is
in
that
group,
but
just
a
it's,
a
very
knowledgeable
group
of
folks
that
kind
of
plan,
the
strategic
efforts
in
our
community
around
ending
homelessness,
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
a
great
idea
for
expansion
of
projects
like
this
day,
shelter.
H
Anything
kind
of
related
to
this
that
we
could
come
up
with
a
a
process
to
evaluate
a
business
plan,
a
funding
plan,
best
practices,
analysis
and
then
not
necessarily
have
to
go
through
a
process
like
this.
With
everyone
I
mean
we
could
do
like
community
education
events,
but
hopefully
have
that
group
kind
of
vet
projects
that
are
put
forward
in
the
future.
A
Okay,
thanks
stephanie,
we
have
a
clarifying
question.
Yes,.
E
So
thanks
for
that,
I
guess
my
my
clarifying
question
is
this:
this
vetting
process
would
happen
how
and
when,
and
are
you
talking
about
using
it
with
whatever
comes
forward
out
of
this
group
or
waiting
until
another
time.
H
This
would
be
a
recommendation
for
moving
forward.
I
think
that
the
ship
has
already
sailed
and,
like
this
group
kind
of,
did
a
lot
of
that
work
together,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
the
members
of
this
group
have
kind
of
been
feeling
like.
Well,
I'm
not
an
expert
like
you're
telling
me
this
information,
but
what
do
I
do
with
it?
H
L
Yeah
and
just
to
further
clarify
interface
sanctuary
is
on
the
our
path
home
committee
and
this
project
has
been
in
front
of
them
for
as
long
as
we've
dreamed
of
it.
So
we've
had
the
experts
really
helping
and
guiding
us
so
moving
forward.
I
think
it's
more
about
putting
the
criteria
together
so
that
it
can
go
out
to
people
to
see,
and
maybe
they
have
some
feedback
about
what
they'd
like
to
see.
L
But
it's
a
starting
point,
but
the
the
agency
support
would
be
around
anything
that
would
be
moving
into
the
community
to
support
those
without
homes.
M
Outside
I'm
sarah,
I
have
two
quick
things
that
one
going
back
to
the
language
around
safety
and
partnerships
and
because
this
will
come
up
in
the
community
criteria.
Group
that
I
was
a
part
of
which
we
sort
of
named
the
recommendation
to
have
a
a
team
or
the
or
the
proposed.
M
Like
our
current
partnerships
with
the
street
outreach
team,
like
a
model
of
cahoots
like
in
just
kind
of
thinking
through
the
language
request
that
you
were
making
jen
and
then
the
other
thing.
I
think
I
want
to
name
in
these
recommendations
that
I
know
interfaith
named
in
their
presentation,
and
I
know
as
part
of
better
shelter
better
practices,
but
I
felt
important
to
highlight
was
a
recommendation
around
focusing
on
day
shelter,
capacity
and
alternatives,
because
that
really
continued
to
rise
as
a
deep,
deep
need
for
us,
very
specifically
in
our
city.
A
N
Thank
you
be
black
with
the
wca
one
of
the
things
that
has
occurred
to
me
as
I've
listened
to
the
comments
and
the
testimony
and
all
the
presentations
is,
I
would
love
to
see
a
recommendation
come
out
of
this
shelter
better
practice.
N
I
don't
believe
that
ifs
ever
went
into
the
business
to
be
a
long-term
housing
solution,
and
so
with
all
of
the
interest,
with
all
the
thoughts.
With
all
the
comments,
I
would
love
to
see.
One
of
the
recommendations
be
that
we
more
proactively
move
to
help
create
more
opportunities
to
house
those
who
need
long-term
housing.
They
are
not
simply
waiting
to
leave
homelessness.
N
It
takes
resources
and
it
takes
investment
and
it
takes
a
will
to
do
that.
I
think
ifs
has
stepped
up
and
been
filling
a
need,
which
I
don't
see
anybody
else
really
doing
so.
I
think
we
need
to
support
this
moving
forward,
because
this
is
where
we
are
right
now,
but
I
think
this
should
be
a
pathway
to
helping
with
those
other
populations
that
really
need
our
support.
A
O
All
right
so
I'll
do
two
quick
comments.
First
off
we
talked
about
cup
enforcement.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
would
be
an
equitable
type
of
enforcement.
There
are
multiple
cop
permits
throughout
the
city
and
just
starting
to
focus
on
one
type
or
one
area
of
cup
could
be
very
problematic.
So
I
would
like
to
ensure
that
there's
equity
around
the
cup
enforcement
and
then,
secondly,
for
all
these
weeks,
we've
been
talking
about
shelter,
better
practices
and
site
criteria
and
those
two
things
do
overlap
to
some
extent.
O
But
then,
last
week
we
learned
about
inherent
restrictions
within
the
city
policies
and
their
planning
and
zoning,
and
it
seems
like
all
that
got
thrown
away
because
of
the
inherent
restrictions
that
are
already
exist.
So
when
you
talk
about
only
seven
percent
of
property
available
only
available
with
a
c
conditional
use
permit
and
then
maybe
it
got
a
great
bus
line
in
it
I
mean
it
hits
their
budget,
it
hits
their
minimum
requirements.
O
P
I've
always
said
contents,
easy
packaging
is
hard,
so
the
elephant
in
the
room
slide,
it
seems
to
me,
is
something
you
should
bring
back
up
when
the
third
group
presents
about
recommendations
to
leadership,
so
that
we
keep
clear
that
these
are
points
on
what
better
shelter
looks
like
and
leading
a
process
towards.
That
is
a
recommendation
for
leadership.
P
A
Yeah,
so
there
may
need
to
be
some
discussion
around
subcommittee
leads
again
around
what
goes
where
so.
I
will
make
sure
that
you're
in
touch
with
one
another,
as
you
make
those
recommendations
to
us.
Okay,
I
want
to
move
on
to
group
two,
which
is
our
community
criteria.
Group,
let's
see
rachel.
Are
you
able
to
take
a
picture
of
this
rachel?
Make
sure
you
get
pictures
of
the
board,
because
I
know
you
can't
see
it
in
the
back
of
the
room.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
capture
feedback.
Q
We
identified
a
few
areas
of
concern:
community
engagement,
good
neighbor
agreements-
and
I
will
say
a
lot
of
this-
is
going
to
be
repeated
from
that
first
one.
So
we
all
had
some
really
similar
ideas,
we're
looking
at
more
proactive
emergency
and
security
plans,
appropriate
buffers
per
the
size
of
the
shelter
and
then
again
we're
going
to
touch
into
that
accountability
after
the
conditional
use.
Permit
so
some
specific
recommendations-
and
maybe
these
do
go
into
the
third
slide,
but
they
touch
from
the
community
lens.
Q
You
know,
apparently,
boise
police
department
has
an
impact
report
that
they
can
do.
It
would
be
really
nice
to
see
that
wherever
a
shelter
is
cited,
not
just
the
shelter
that
bppd
comes
in
and
identifies
areas
of
potential
impact
for
safety,
such
as
needs
for
new
lighting,
new
street
lighting,
new
area
lighting.
We
really
want
to
focus
on
being
proactive
rather
than
reactive.
Q
Q
We
definitely
want
a
selection
process
and
some
term
limits
so
that
this
is
run
very
efficiently,
and
we
want
to
weave
that
creation
into
the
conditional
use
permit
and
we're
hoping
that
this
will
engrave
the
community
and
really
help
with
activities
once
of
course
covet
appropriate,
such
as
cleanup
days.
Q
Okay,
we'll
talk
about
the
proactive
and
responsive
safety
plan.
You
know
we
really
want
to
see
ahead
of
this.
From
the
neighborhood
perspective,
I
think
I
heard
a
lot
of
concerns
from
my
neighbors
about
safety.
Q
It
may
require
an
additional
investment
in
private
security,
and
that
may
be
where
the
city
leaders
need
to
step
in
and
help
with
some
of
those
extra
expenses
for
ems
fire.
I
think
I
think
there
are
plans
in
place
we've
seen
that
through
this
through
this
group,
but
I
don't
know
that
the
neighbors
got
a
chance
to
see
all
of
that,
and
so
it
creates
a
lot
of
fear.
Q
All
right,
then
we're
going
to
talk
about
some
appropriate
residential
buffers.
Apparently
there's
a
draft
code
coming
up
and
in
the
updates
there's
a
300
foot
residential
buffer
for
shelter
homes.
You
know
is
that
going
to
be
the
case
and
should
that
be
reinforced,
you
might
consider
modifying
buffer
requirements
to
encourage
scattered
site
models.
We
recognize
that
ifs
isn't
prepared
to
do
that.
However,
the
city
needs
to
look
at
this
at
a
larger
picture.
You
know
this,
isn't
the
only
shelter
we're
ever
going
to
have?
Q
Maybe
a
smaller
buffer
is
required
for
smaller
shelters.
You
know
how
we
go
forward
from
there
consider
pre-selecting
a
slight
and
this
kind
of
goes
into
what
tom
was
mentioning.
You
know
if
you're
going
through
this
rewrite
of
the
zoning
you
know
maybe
adding
in
some
zones
where
shelters
are
appropriate
so
that
we
can
get
more
integrated
into
neighborhoods
and
prepare
for
that
ahead
of
time.
Q
Q
And
then,
as
as
tom's
group
mentioned
to
you,
know
the
the
conditional
use
permit
accountability,
we
really
like
to
see
some
outline
on
that.
You
know
I
don't
I'm
personally
not
very
familiar
with
this
process,
but
for
some
of
our
group,
members
were
and
we'd
like
to
see
that
that's
actually
outlining
in
more
detail
what
the
modification
process
is.
It's
one
thing
to
get
the
conditional
use
permit,
but
then,
let's
say
the
shelter
wants
an
additional
50
beds.
Q
There
should
be
a
way
to
modify
that
that
works
with
the
community
and
with
a
community
engagement.
So
it's
not
just
an
administrative
process,
but
it's
also
something
that
the
community
can
engage
in.
There
needs
to
be
a
review
period
and,
of
course,
an
import.
We
keep
mentioning
this
enforcement
structure
for
the
conditional
use
permit,
and
I
believe
that
is
all
I
have
mine
was
mine-
was
not
as
exciting
as
tom's
and
tom's
is
now
he's.
Couldn't
do
my
slides
forever
and
always.
K
Yeah
penny
beach.
I'm
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
the
zoning
restrictions
like
talk
about
the
buffers
just
because
it
seems
to
me
if
you
had
even
more
zoning
restrictions.
Interface
would
never
have
found
any
site,
so
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
them,
erasing
the
possibility
of
there
being
any
shelter.
K
So
I
guess
my
ask
would
be
to
have
the
zoning
laws
looked
at
in
a
holistic
manner
so
that
they
made
sense,
because,
obviously,
if
you
allow
shelters
in
24
out
of
24
zones
in
the
city,
you're
probably
going
to
be
able
to
find
more
suitable
sites.
But
if
you
left
that
4
out
of
24
and
then
started
putting
in
restrictions
on
top
of
that,
you're
never
going
to
have
a
shelter
in
the
city.
O
Yes,
hilary
hi,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
what
penny
just
said
is
something
that
I've
started
to
hear
reiterated
through
this
task
force
over
the
past
week.
Is
that,
had
we
applied
any
additional
restrictions
to
the
already
inherent
ones
within
city
code,
we
would
not
have
shelter
sites
anywhere
throughout
the
city
and
because
it,
the
city,
is
undergoing
this
rewrite
process,
great
timing,
everyone
we
actually
have
the
ability
to
proactively
look
at
shelter
criteria
and
sites
that
need
that.
A
I'm
trying
I'm
sorry
I'm
trying
to
process.
That
was
a
lot
of
information
that
came
at
me
at
once.
I'm
trying
to
think
about
the
recommendation
here,
because
we
know
zoning
code
is
going
to
be
reviewed.
That
itself
is
going
to
be
a
lengthy
and
complex
process
is
the
in
addition
to
what
we've
already
heard.
A
Is
there
another
ask
that
you'd
like
to
see
added
to
the
recommendation
around
sort
of
making
sure
it's
revised
in
a
holistic
manner
that
there's
some
sort
of
community
engagement
and
enforcement
process,
or
are
you
just
underlining
what's
been
said
already,
hillary?
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
was
not
missing
something
through
my
paralysis
here.
Okay,
other
comments,
feedback
we'll
hand
you
a
mic
over
there,
please
make
sure
to
introduce
yourself
or
folks
online.
A
That
feels
like
a
really
important
point
and
one
that
we're
hearing
echoes
of
in
other
comments,
and
so
I
might
suggest
that
we'll
make
sure
we
capture
it
here
either.
It
appears
in
sort
of
front
materials
for
the
report
as
the
context
and
or
group
three
could
consider
building
that
out
a
little
bit
as
sort
of
considerations
for
decision
makers
I'll.
Let
you
decide
tom.
C
This
is
time
this
is
tom
from
the
sunset
neighborhood.
I
one
thing
we
talked
a
lot
about
and
you
all
touched
on
as
well
was
enforcement
of
the
the
cups
of
the
and
how
that
would
happen
and
how
that
occurs,
and
one
thing
we
were
concerned
about
was
one
equity
within
that
with,
amongst
other
businesses
and
organizations,
and
then
number
two.
I
guess
how
it's
how
it's
actually
enforced
like
who
actually
enforces
it.
C
We
we're
not
totally
sure
how
they're
enforced
within
the
city,
but
our
suspicion
is
that
it's
kind
of
reported
so,
for
example,
if
interfaith
sanctuary
said
they're
going
to
have
a
200
person,
shelter,
but
all
of
a
sudden
300
people
were
there
who's
gonna.
How
is
it
gonna
who's
gonna
know
about
that
unless
someone
actually
who's,
there
reports
it
to
the
city,
okay.
So
so
we
was
kind
of
concerned
how
that
how
that
enforcement
would
happen
when.
C
A
E
Sure,
elaine
clegg,
city,
council,
president,
a
little
clarification.
The
zoning
code
does
have
an
enforcement
mechanism
for
conditional
use
permits.
It
goes
through
our
code
enforcement
office
and
is
enforced
just
like
any
code.
Compliance
issue
would
be,
however,
if
they
identify
something
that
is
out
of
compliance
with
the
conditions
in
the
conditional
use
permit.
It
can
also
trigger
a
review
of
the
conditional
use
permit
by
the
planning
and
zoning
department
and
even
can
come
to
either
the
commission
or
the
city
council.
E
One
of
the
things
I
think
I'm
hearing
is
that
in
in
this
day-
probably
not
surprisingly,
there's
not
a
lot
of
trust
that
any
decision
that
is
made
is
going
to
be
upheld
in
the
way
that
really
serves
the
community.
E
So
I
don't
know
how
you
overcome
the
lack
of
trust,
but
I
I
will
say
that
in
fact,
the
conditional
use
permit
process
is
very
well
spelled
out,
has
a
very
deep
administrative
chapter
in
it,
and
it
might
be
that
part
of
what
we
need
is
education
around
that,
and
you
know,
those
things
are
always
up
for
review.
We
spent
a
year
two
years
ago,
looking
at
just
that
and
and
making
improvements,
so
not
to
say
that
there
can't
be
con.
You
know
improvements
made,
but
instead
yeah.
A
Okay,
all
right
rachel,
all
right
who's
presenting
for
group
three.
K
The
first
one
is,
the
city
must
have
enough
emergency
shelter
beds
to
meet
the
need.
We
cannot
put
200
people
out
on
the
streets,
especially
during
the
winter
and
without
any
shelter.
The
last
time
that
happened,
people
literally
froze
to
death,
and
then
healthcare
must
have
a
place
to
discharge
unhoused
individuals
too.
K
So
speaking
as
the
representative
for
the
hospital
system,
what
I
probably
haven't
told
people
on
this
task
force
is
that
if
we
have
an
unhoused
individual
who
is
ready
to
leave
the
hospital
but
does
not
have
a
safe
place
to
stay
where
they
can
continue
to
get
well,
we
don't
just
discharge
them
onto
the
street,
as
you
can
imagine,
they
will
stay
in
the
hospital
until
we're
confident
they
have
a
safe
place
to
go.
So
that
often
means
that
both
hospitals
there
are
individuals
who
basically
no
longer
need
hospital
care,
but
are
living
there.
K
We
have
patients
who
live
there
for
days
to
weeks
to
months,
because
we
cannot
find
a
place
to
take
them.
We
can't
find
a
nursing
home.
We
can't
find
an
assisted
living
facility
and
if
we
didn't
have
a
homeless
shelter,
we
couldn't
find
a
homeless
shelter
to
to
send
them.
It's
gotten
super
bad
during
covid,
because
a
lot
of
nursing
homes
are
short
staffed,
so
they're
taking
fewer
discharges
out
of
the
hospital.
K
So
when
I
was
on
this
past
weekend,
we
I
was
taking
care
of
three
patients
who
were
just
housed
in
the
er,
because
we
had
no
beds
to
put
them
in,
and
this
is
extremely
costly.
It's
extremely
bad
health
care
not
only
for
unhousing
individuals
but
for
the
community.
K
So
we
are
in
support
of
solutions.
That
would
mean
that
we
don't
have
to
have
a
big
emergency
shelter
forever,
like
smaller
shelters
or
hopefully,
housing.
But
in
the
meantime
we
need
to
have
enough
emergency
shelter
beds
for
whoever
needs
them.
O
So,
just
I'm
just
going
to
read
what
it
says
everyone,
so
we
just
need
to
document
the
criteria
so
some
type
of
matrix
of
how
we
weigh
each
of
each
criteria,
because
we
realize
that
some
of
the
criteria
may
have
different
importance
and
so
waiting.
Those
will
be
vital
and
then
the
reasons
behind
what
we
did
this.
So
I
think
this
is
also
a
really
important
process
outline
and
that
terms
of
communication.
For
that
part,.
P
You
evaluate.
E
E
P
Yeah,
it
also
them
anyway,
never
mind,
forget
it,
evaluate
and
publish
best
practices
for
citing
a
shelter
and
how
the
pros
site
reflects
those
practices.
I
think
per
point.
The
first
bullet
is
really
hitting
what
we
wanted.
How
does
a
business
plan
of
any
proposed
site
address
which
of
the
criteria
it
can't
meet?
In
other
words,
if
there
are
six
criteria
we
get
you're,
never
gonna.
P
Anyone
should
get
you're,
never
gonna
meet
every
criteria,
but
how
do
we
require
that
a
business
plan
addresses
the
criteria
it
admits
it
doesn't
fully
meet
and
and
how
it
will.
K
K
Okay,
this
is
our
last
slide.
It
maybe
gets
at
the
elephant
in
the
room
slide,
so
we
just
wanted
to
recommend
to
our
political
leaders
that
either
they
make
the
difficult
decisions,
in
this
case
around
shelter,
cycling
or
truly,
if
they're
going
to
create
a
task
force,
truly
empower
us
to
do
that
or
at
the
least
it
seems
like
our
goals,
weren't
clearly
established
at
the
beginning,
or
they
changed
halfway
through.
So
if
that
could
be
clear
from
the
beginning,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
A
N
B
so
yeah
b,
black
wca,
I'm
not
quite
sure
exactly
where
these
fit,
but
one
of
the
things
that
occurred
to
me,
as
I
was
again
listening
to
everything,
is
there's
a
real
concern
about
the
diff,
the
distance
between
this
proposed
shelter
and
corpus,
christi
and
the
other
services
catch
and
in
the
downtown
core,
and
I
think
we
should
recommend
that
we
take
a
serious
look
at
transportation
between
the
new
shelter
site
and
where
the
services
where
the
appropriate
services
are
located,
because
to
me
it
seems
like
it's
a
great
site
given
the
bus
there.
N
N
The
other
thing
is
I
I've
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
reading
and
having
others
read
the
cpted
report,
and
I
think
it's
I
think
it
needs
to
be
interpreted
for
people,
because
I
think
you
can
look
at
it
and
say:
oh
my
gosh.
This
is
so
concerning,
but
really
in
comparison
to
what
I
think
that
it
was
very.
N
N
But
if
you
look
at
the
numbers,
the
numbers
are
very
small
and
if
you
look
at
what
I
think
by
again,
I
heard
a
lot
of
neighbors
being
very
worried
about
is
the
crime
rate
and
the
types
of
crimes
it
gave
crime
rates
in
the
cer
in
the
area,
but
it
didn't
give
a
comparison
to
what
was
going
on
in
the
rest
of
the
city,
and
there
was
no
comparison.
That
said:
here's
what
the
population
was
back
in
2016.,
here's,
what
the
population
is
in
2020.
N
so
relative
to
what
so.
I
think
that
you
know
if
anybody
really
read
through
that
report,
unless
you
have
some
broader
discussion
around
it
in
some
context,
I
think
it
could
be
very
alarming
to
neighbors
and
I
don't
think
that's
fair.
So
I
guess
one
of
the
recommendations
I
would
have
is
that
there
could
maybe
be
some
follow-up
work
done.
Maybe
some
work
done
around
the
new
area
and
the
already
existing
area
as
the
project
moves
forward.
A
L
I
just
wanted
to
address
the
transportation
issue
in
the
better
practices
for
shelter
and
the
services
that
are
currently
where
interface
sanctuary
is
we're
moving
those
services
into
this
new
proposed
project.
So
we
would
have
a
day
shelter
catch
would
be
in
the
building.
Mail
would
be
in
the
building.
So
what
we
were
trying
to
do
in
this
design
was
to
take
pressure
off
of
the
only
daytime
shelter.
L
So
we
don't
actually
want
to
have
that
crossover.
Our
shelter
will
serve
the
guests
within
our
building
corpus.
Christi
will
stay
intact
and
serve
the
unsheltered
and
the
guests
that
utilize,
the
other
shelters
in
the
downtown
core
and
so
transportation
to
that
core
should
not
have
an
effect,
and
if
it
did,
we
would
find
shuttle
service
or
something.
But
the
crossover
shouldn't
happen
with
it,
with
a
new
shelter
with
a
day,
shelter.
H
A
H
That
so
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
broader
thing
than
this
conversation,
but
we
as
the
provider
community
as
our
path
home
have
been
talking
for
years
about.
How
do
we
proactively
know
when
a
project
like
this
is
going
to
be
happening,
and
how
do
we
gather
around
it
to
make
sure
that
it
has
the
support
that
it
needs?
H
And
so
I
don't
know
internally
through
the
city
like
what
that
would
look
like,
but
some
kind
of
I
know
that,
like
you
know
like
next
week,
this
is
what's
going
to
be
on
the
council's
agenda
or
like
this
is
what's
coming
up,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
like
a
process
that
we
could
create
for
special
projects
that
includes
connecting
our
path,
home
or
other
partners
in
that
process
more
toward
the
front
end
of
a
project.
A
I
think
you
could
propose
language
for
your
subcommittee
that
we
can
take
a
look
at
for
sure.
J
I
that
concept
hit
another
concept
for
me
for
early
on
would
which
is
the
lack
of
data
we
experienced,
because
we
should
be
able
to
have
data
to
give
us
a
somewhat
better
planning
horizon,
as
the
population
grows.
What's
the
expectation
of
the
implications
to
the
different
groups,
and
I
think
that
this
is
just
an
offering,
but
I
think
that
was
very
early
on.
It
was
clear
we
do
not
know
everything
we'd
like
to
know
to
be
able
to
plan
in
this
space.
So
those
two
things,
at
least
for
me-
have
a
relationship.
L
I
think
to
add
on
to
stephanie.
I
think
what
we
saw
as
a
problem
in
this
process
was
that
we
are
meeting
and
discussing
as
our
path
home
and
that
information
is
not
being
passed
over
to
city
council
or
to
the
mayor,
and
so
what
happens
is
there's
a
lack
of
knowledge
going
into
the
process,
and
so
when
neighbors
wanted
to
talk
to
their
city,
council
leaders,
their
city,
council
leaders,
didn't
have
the
language
because
they
hadn't
gone
through
the
process
with
us.
A
I
hear
you,
it
sounds
good.
I
think
how
it's
proposed
matters,
because
I
could
see
a
community
member
saying
well
that
sounds
like
there's.
Some
sort
of
inside
deal
happening
right,
so
it
has.
There
has
to
be
transparency
into
that
process
at
some
point
and
in
some
way
tom
last
comment
for
reals
this
time.
Oh.
C
Oh
great,
this
is
tom.
I
actually
I
kind
of
disagree
with
that
jody
I
want
to.
I
I
think
it's
we.
We
want
to
keep
this
some
sort
of
separation,
like
jen
just
said
between
city
council,
and
I
think
the
the
onus
might
be
a
little
bit
more
on
the
shelter
in
the
in
our
path
home
to
educate
the
public,
so
they
don't
have
to
go
to
city
council
and
then,
after
they're
educated,
they
still
go
to
city
council.
That's
just
the
way.
I
feel
about
that.
A
D
Andrew
scoggin,
with
the
board
of
directors
by
interfaith
sanctuary,
not
I'm
gonna,
agree,
obviously
with
what
tom
indicates
his
concerns
and
we
actually
asked
our
board:
don't
go:
try
to
have
private
lobbying
conversations
and
put
city
council
members
in
uncomfortable
positions
or
any
of
that,
and
so
I
think
that's
a
very
careful
path
that
you've
got
to
walk.
Where
you
don't
put
the
city
council
into
a
position
of
oh,
you
got
you
only
heard
from
one
side
or
any
of
these
other
things.
D
So
when,
when
you're,
putting
that
together,
be
really
careful
not
to
put
city
councilmen
on
in
a
very
difficult
rocking
a
hard
place
on
that
one
can.
A
You
hand
out
handouts.
Thank
you
for
that
comment.
I
was
listening
okay,
so
we
have
a
quick
process
discussion
we
need
to
have
before
you
get
back
into
your
groups,
we're
going
to
hand
out
a
draft
schedule
around
report.
Writing
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
how
we
think
the
process
will
go
from
here,
because
trying
to
wordsmith
as
a
group
would
make
us
all
not
want
to
do
anything
anymore.
Try
to
avoid
stigmatizing
language
here.
A
Here's!
What
I
need
to
know
is.
We
heard
some
new
things
today
and
I
think
there
will
be
some
changes
or
adjustments
made
to
recommendations
based
on
the
feedback.
I
would
hope
so,
but
it
will
be
tricky
for
those
of
us
who
will
be
trying
to
pull
all
of
this
together
to
figure
out
how
to
handle
totally
new
information
right.
So
if
there
was,
there
are
new
things
that
get
put
forward
by
subcommittee
leaders
based
on
this
conversation.
A
A
Do
you
understand
what
I'm
saying
so?
Could
we
agree
to
just
some
very
brief,
simple
guidelines
for
how
you
will
give
us
feedback
at
this
point,
because
what
we
anticipate
happening
is
the
subcommittee
chairs
will
give
us
your
updated
recommendations
based
on
the
conversation
today,
we'll
put
that
into
reporty
like
language
and
then
send
back
to
everybody
for
your
feedback,
which
will
try
our
best
to
address
your
concerns
in
that
around
language
and
things
like
that.
But
if
individuals
give
us
new
recommendations
at
that
point,
that'd
be
hard
for
us
to
include
those.
A
J
I'm
not
sure
I
have
the
answer
to
that
question,
but
one
point
I
would
like
to
interject
is:
I
don't
think
everyone
should
feel
like
you
have
to
go
back
to
the
beginning
and
try
to
remember
the
recommendations
or
topics
we've
been
discussing
since
the
beginning.
J
I
would
like
to
ask
staff
to
make
sure
any
of
those
were
encompassed
like,
for
example,
I
can
think
of
community
outreach.
That's
come
up
in
all
these
meetings
and
had
different
components
and
different
aspects.
To
perhaps
give
you
back
the
most
comprehensive
recommendation.
We
believe
we
heard
so
that
you
all
don't
have
to
go
back
and
try
to
remember
all
the
things
we
have
those
records.
Those
recordings,
and
so
part
of
this,
at
least
in
my
mind,
is
to
have
staff,
bring
what
they've
heard
through
the
whole
process.
J
In
addition
to
the
recommendations
today
and
any
tweaks
or
ads,
but
not
whole
new
concepts,.
A
I
mean
just
to
put
that
another
way.
I
think
the
staff
will
work
very
hard
to
capture
the
spirit
of
what
you
have
put
forward
and
to
put
meat
on
those
bones
in
an
effective
way,
but
you
will
also
have
a
chance
to
make
comments
on
that
concerns
about
that.
As
part
of
the
process
suggestions,
you
would
like
to
make
adjusting
that.
E
A
I
will
take
that
silence
as
approval
for
now.
If
you
want
to
talk
to
me
separately,
please
do
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
leave
you.
The
rest
of
the
time
today
to
go
back
to
your
subcommittee's
subcommittee
chairs
may
want
to
do
a
little
wrangling
about
who's
going
to
take
what
topics
sub-topics,
oh
andrew,
sorry,
okay,
you're
gonna,
have
to
speak
into
the
mic.
P
And,
given
that
we
are
presumably
all
at
least
signing
off
our
name
on
to
this
document,
is
there
a
approval
that
happens
on
after
that
friday?
The
10th
of
the
final
document,
like?
Are
you
expecting
that
you
will
give
it
to
us,
and
we
will
say
I
approve
putting
that
as
the
as
the
final
document
or.
A
D
D
From
the
board
of
interfaith
sanctuary,
I
I
want
to
add
to
that.
I
hate
to
put
anything
on
anyone's
calendar,
including
mine,
but
given
where
we're
at
and
that
this
is
all
going
to
be
brought
together,
and
this
group
has
worked
so
closely
together
and
all
this.
I,
I
wonder
whether
that
10th,
we
don't
come
back
for
one
last,
we're
all
here,
instead
of
everyone
sort
of
emailing
in
their
thoughts
and
feelings,.
A
Yeah-
and
I
want
to
make
clear
too,
that
I
didn't
anticipate
that
the
whole
group
would
be
replied
all
on
every
revision,
either
in
case
that
just
terrified
some
of
you
well,
we
will
try
to
compile
feedback
and
make
sense
of
it.
There's
a
so
there's
a
proposal
for
a
meeting.
K
J
I
meet
for
living,
so
another
meeting
is
perfectly
fine
with
me,
but
to
that
and
and
to
andy's
point
to,
I
think,
protects
the
tone.
This
period
of
the
conversations
trying
to
do
that
by
email
is,
and
I
feel
bad
for
the
staff
who's
going
to
bring
me
challenges
because
they're
not
in
context
coming
through
email.
J
So
my
only
caveat
is
it
doesn't
extend
the
timeline
out
any
further
than
we're
currently
at
so
then,
if
we
went
forward
with
that-
and
maybe
we
can
find
something
on
the
ninth
so
that
the
staff
can
turn
it
have
a
bit
longer
to
turn
it
around,
so
the
staff
would
collect
everything.
They've
heard
from
the
beginning,
everything
from
this
room
and
the
task
force
put
it
together
in
our
closest
attempt
for
a
final
document,
and
then
we
come
up
with
a
process
for
support
approval.
Whatever
the
terms
are.
Does
that
work
for
everybody?
J
J
A
Maybe,
rather
than
try
to
figure
this
out
right
now,
I
think
we'll
take
the
the
recommendations,
a
good
one,
to
make
sure
we
have
that
sort
of
approval
step
in
and
a
meeting
might
make
sense
for
that.
So
we'll
revise
this
schedule,
we'll
make
sure
to
communicate
that
with
you
and
then,
if
a
meeting
is
what
is
called
for
we'll
get
that
scheduled.
A
M
In
looking
at
the
eight
minutes
that
we
have
left
today
and
the
conversation
around
the
timeline
and
and
final
approval,
I'm
I'm
wondering
for
my
tele
fellow
task
force
members
it.
It
makes
sense
to
me
that,
rather
than
trying
to
figure
out,
I'm
wondering
how
you
feel
about
this,
what
what
recommendation
should
live
under
what
category
we
let
the
staff
just.
A
A
J
J
J
J
Those
will
all
be
part
of
the
record,
so
the
other
thing
the
staff
is
doing
is
doing
a
collection
of
all
the
emails
that
we've
received
on
this
topic
and
by
we
I
mean
the
city
as
a
whole,
so
you
don't
have
to
send
the
same
email
to
the
police
chief
and
to
me
like
we
can
find
all
of
that
and
put
it
as
part
of
the
record.
If
anything
else
comes
up
or
anybody
has
any
questions,
just
let
me
know,
and
with
that
thanks
again
everybody.
I
appreciate
it.
Yes,.
E
Could
I
also
just
say
thanks
to
everyone
for
participating,
all
of
us
are
really
passionate
people.
We
care
a
lot
about
what
we
do,
and
sometimes
it's
really
hard
when
you
get
a
group
of
passionate
people
together
to
make
this
kind
of
progress,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
you
all
individually
for
participating
and
participating
honestly
as
good
brokers
for
your
particular
passion.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Everybody
stay
in
touch,
you'll,
hear
from
us.