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A Boulder View interviews Boulder's representative to the Colorado Senate, Rollie Heath, about his work with the City of Boulder, constitutional reform, congressional redistricting and fiscal stability.
A
Hi
and
welcome
to
a
boulder
of
you,
I'm
Carl
Castillo
in
the
first
half
of
the
show
I'll
be
speaking
with
voters
representative
to
the
state
Senate
raleigh
heath
in
the
second
half
of
the
show,
jodie
jacobson
will
be
visiting
with
andy
proctor
to
speak,
about
updates
to
the
city's
affordable
housing
program.
But
first
here
with
me,
now
is
Senator.
Eighth,
instead
of
here.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
thanks.
A
Two
Democrats
and
they've
come
to
see
you
as
a
leader,
and
they
put
you
in
positions
of
leadership
and
I'm
talking
about
some
of
the
things
that
are
most
significant
when
it
comes
to
statewide
concerns
from
congressional
redistricting
constitutional
reform.
Looking
at
the
long-term
fiscal
stability
of
the
state
and
I
want
to
speak
to
you
about
all
those
issues,
but
before
we
do
that,
I
think
many
of
our
viewers
would
be
interested
in
learning
what
the
life
of
a
state
senator
is
like,
and
particularly
a
senator
who
represents
a
city
like
Boulder.
Well,.
B
B
Josie
and
I,
and
and
our
kids
moved
here
in
1970
and
the
company
I
was
with
one
of
us
to
move
in
1973
to
Ohio,
and
the
smartest
thing
I
ever
did
was
to
say
no
to
that
and
figure
out
a
way
to
get
another
job
to
stay
here
and
never
look
back
so
so
we
love
this
place
annoying.
My
colleagues
who
represent
different
districts
have
to
look
over
their
shoulder
every
moment.
B
You
know
whether
they,
how
their
votes
going
to
be
received
and
all
and
I
just
I
know
how
bobres
is
going
to
respond,
and
it
gives
me
such
liberty
and
as
I
say
it's
such
a
privilege
to
to
represent
this
this
this
great
city
and,
as
you
know,
it
goes
up,
touches
the
northern
part
of
Longmont.
So
it's
you
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
Boulder
County,
not
the
West,
but
it's
beyond
Boulder,
it's
it's
beyond
boulder,
but
it's
just
a
wonderful
thing:
I,
it's
a
privilege
and
I've
loved
the
job.
I
really
have.
A
Out
I
know
that
this
community
is
very
demanding
and
I
know
that
you've
been
measuring
up.
So
I
want
to
ask
you
about
sort
of
your
communications
with
the
city
of
Boulder
and
the
community
in
terms
of
how
is
it
that
you
go
about
trying
to
understand
what
your
constituents
want,
and
how
do
you
communicate
back
to
them
the
issues
that
you're
learning?
How
does
that
work?
Well,.
B
I
think
you
know
I
do
town
halls
every
month
and
we
get
a
good
turnout.
I
try
to
move
them
around
the
city.
In
fact,
we
we
do
one
in
the
city
hall.
As
you
know,
one
and
that's
been
great.
We
we
get
somewhere
between
1500
people
most
of
the
time
and
as
you
would
guess,
in
boulder
everybody's
really
interested.
So
we
do
that
I
think
you
know
my
my
assistant,
Richard
Valenti.
B
It
was
a
reporter
where
the
Colorado
daily
and
I
think
people
thought
the
world
of
him
as
a
political
reporter
and
he's
been
my
assistance
since
I
started,
and
you
know
we
get
probably
three
to
five
hundred
emails
during
session
a
night
and
we
try
to
respond
and
he's
on
the
frontline
of
that.
So
we
do
as
best
we
can
I
try
to
show
up.
It's
often
as
I
get
into
as
many
events
as
I
can.
I
think
that's
my
role.
Why
don't
I
enjoy
I?
B
A
A
How
can
we
measure
the
impacts
that
the
volatile
community
might
feel
I
know
that
the
city
of
Boulder
isn't
quite
as
dependent
on
state
tax
dollars,
but
there's
many
other
governmental
organizations
and
community
members
that
are
beyond
the
city
of
Boulder.
Can
you
speak
towards
how
those
impacts
might
be
felt
yeah.
B
I
think
most
of
the
people
that
know
me
know
that
if
you
looked
at
reason
why
I
ran
it
was
to
try
to
deal
with
the
fiscal
issues
in
the
state
we've
we've
got
some
problems
that
no
other
state
has
in
terms
of
a
constitution
that,
with
provisions
that
work
cross
purposes
with
each
other,
we've
got
statutes.
We
have
the
only
Tabor,
the
taxpayer
Bill
of
Rights
in
the
country
that
basically
doesn't
allow
the
assembly
to
do
anything
with
taxes.
B
If
you,
if
you
think
you
need
to
raise,
raise
things,
you
know
in
the
budget
that
the
new
governor
john
hickenlooper,
introduced
last
week,
just
you
know
dramatically
I
think
told
us
all
how
deep
we
are
in
trouble.
We
took
385
million
dollars
more
out
of
the
education
last
year
and
just
so
people
understand
you
know
we.
We
were
funding
on
a
per
pupil
basis,
fourteen
hundred
dollars
lower
than
the
rest
of
the
state
already,
and
we're
not
going
to
take
that
down
another
five
hundred
dollars.
So,
on
average
we're
spending
nineteen
hundred
dollars.
B
Roughly
clothes
are
probably
the
two
thousand
dollars
per
less
per
student,
the
state.
Then
we
are
the
average
of
any
state
in
the
country
that
is
just
not
acceptable
to
me
and
I
would
hope,
not
acceptable
to
the
people
watching
the
show
and
and
my
constituents
and
hopefully
everybody
in
the
state
of
Colorado.
So
we
need
to
do
something
about
it
and.
B
We
took
other
35
million
of
the
University
of
Colorado
Denver
just
came
out
with
a
study
where
49th
in
the
country
and
what
we're
spending
on
higher
education.
So
this
is
going
to
even
reduce
it
further,
so
you
know
we're
not
supporting
higher
education,
we're
not
supporting
education.
If
you
look
at
a
pee
through
20
basis,
we're
not
sustaining
we're,
not
supporting
it
at
any
level,
that's
even
close
to
the
average
of
the
states
surrounding
us
or
the
rest
of
the
country.
That's
not
acceptable!
You.
A
Know
I
always
wonder
when
I
hear
about
all
these
rankings,
saying
that
were
one
of
the
most
educated
cities
or
counties
or
states,
and
yet
you
have
these
numbers
that
put
us
at
the
lowest
level.
So
it
just
seems
like
it's
just
a
matter
of
time
before
the
impact
is
felt
and
I'm
sure
there's
already
being
impacts,
thought
that
are
pretty
significant.
You.
B
Those
are
the
kind
of
people.
We've
got
to
grow
ourselves,
and
these
are
the
people
that
tend
to
not
understand
the
necessity
for
staying
in
school
and
and
and
I'm
talking
machines
tool
and
die
makers
right
on
the
machine
shop.
At
one
point,
those
are,
the
kind
of
people
were
not
educating
and
and
I
mean
we
need
to
do
this,
obviously
in
all
levels,
but
particularly
there
when
we
can't
import
those
we've
got
to
grow
them.
A
What
let's,
let's
turn
to
the
future,
and
hopefully
a
more
optimistic
topic
about
how
we
can
change
this?
So
we
have
such
a
gigantic
challenge
right
now,
if
I,
our
ability
to
support
core
services
k
through
12
university
and
other
many
other
important
services
as
well
I
know
that
you
took
a
leadership
role.
A
You
were
a
chair
of
a
commission
in
2009
that
looked
towards
the
issue
of
fiscal
stability
and
that
you
determined
that
there
had
been
50
plus
years
before
there
was
a
comprehensive
study
on
her
tax
structure
and
I
know
that
that
study
will
be
released
next
week.
What
is
it
that
you're,
hoping
that
that
study
allows
you
to
do
and
allows
the
state
to
do
well.
B
We
we
debate
so
often
as
to
where
we
are
where
the
problems
are,
and
this
is
a
nonpartisan
group,
it's
obviously
a
private
university
that
doesn't
benefit
from
any
of
the
funds
that
we
have
in
the
state
and
that's
why
we
ask
them
to
do
it
by
the
way
they
did
the
study
53
years
ago
too.
So,
okay,
so
it
makes.
B
Little
set
but
I
think
they're
going
to
be
able
to
take
a
look
at
the
income
tax,
the
sales
tax,
all
the
things
that
we
have
going
on
with
the
property
tax
and
come
back
to
us
with
I
hope
some
options
as
to
what
we
might
do
to
get
ourselves
out
of
this
out
of
this
fiscal
mess
that
we
that
we
find
ourselves.
So
it's
really
not
going
to
be
as
much
a
revenue
study,
although
I
think
I
think
they
will.
B
B
What
I'm
going
to
recommend
is,
then
that
the
General
Assembly
form
an
interim
committee
to
take
a
hard
look
all
this
summer
at
those
recommendations
and
then
come
back
to
wherever
we
need
to
go
with
it,
but
ultimately
to
the
public
and
say
these
are
the
things
we
need
to
do
with
the
structure
of
the
text,
structure
of
the
state
and
hopefully
to
make
some
changes.
Certainly.
B
A
That's
obviously
very
significant
look
forward
to
hearing
more
about
that,
so
we
talked
about
the
long
term.
We
also,
as
you
mentioned,
Tabor
and
many
other
aspects
of
our
Constitution
that
have
been
revised.
I
think
you
yourself
have
said
to
read
more
like
a
statute
or
series
of
statutes
rather
than
a
constitution.
A
So,
of
course
that's
an
issue
that
we
need
to
face
to
address
the
long-term
feasibility
of
government
in
Colorado
and
I
know
that's
up
that's
important
to
you
and
that
there's
also
something
about
reforming
the
initiative
process
that
the
state
houses
face
is
considering
right
now.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
it?
I
can
I.
B
How
we
raise
short-term
revenue,
I
I
personally
as
a
state
senator
as
a
as
a
grandfather
of
two
kids
in
the
school
district.
Here
we
need
to.
We
need
to
reverse
what
I
was
alluding
to
where
we
are
in
the
state.
So
I
am
going
to
come
out
with
a
recommendation
that,
in
the
short
term,
will
get
it,
bring
us
some
revenue
in
the
state
and
and
make
sure
that
goes
to
education.
So
just
so
you
know
that
great.
B
B
B
We
have
the
the
of
all
the
states
in
the
country.
We
have
it's
the
easiest
to
to
amend
the
constitution.
We
can
amend
the
Constitution
as
easily
as
we
can
a
statute,
so
our
Senate
President
brandon
schaefer,
has
introduced
a
bill
which
just
got
out
of
the
Senate,
which
would
basically
requires
to
get
a
60-percent
vote
to
amend
the
Constitution.
It
would
remain
at
fifty
percent
for
statutory
changes.
So
I
think
this
is
a.
This
is
a
good
bill.
B
There
are
some
controversy
around
it,
but
when
you
look
at
how
easy
we
can
put,
if
you
look
at
our
Constitution
compared
to
the
US
Constitution
and
actually
read
it
and
saw
what's
in
it,
you
wouldn't
believe
it
I
mean
it's,
it's
incredible.
What's
in
it
so
great
way,
I
think
we
all
feel
at
least
I
feel
that
that
we
need
to
have
a
higher
higher
rate
at
which
we
amend
the
Constitution.
Then
then
we
do.
A
statue
should
increase
that
the
sixty
percent
and.
A
A
B
You
know
we're
trying
something
very
different,
we're
making
history.
We
have
for
the
first
time
going
to
try
it
during
session
and
we've
got
five
Democrats
and
five
Republicans
I'm
the
co-chair
along
with
representative
Republican
representative
from
the
house.
We
start
our
hearings
this
coming
weekend
and
we'll
be
doing
it
for
the
next
four
weeks,
including
one
in
boulder
on
March
fifteenth.
B
A
I,
I
think
if
anyone
can
do
it,
it's
it's
someone
like
you
who
has
such
good
relationships
with
both
sides
and
so
much
respect
so
well
we're
pretty
much
we're
up
in
a
running
out
of
time.
So
a
lot
to
end
it.
There,
we've
been
speaking
with
Senator
Raleigh
Heath
about
his
represents
representation
of
the
city
of
Boulder.
Rallye
I
wanted
to
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us.
It's
always
a
pleasure
to
be
in
communication
with
you
and
you
do
us
proud
at
the
State
House
girl.